[00:47] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[01:43] <ace_suares> hi all. I added some ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-software-management, comments welcome
[01:47] <ari_stress> what's that
[12:16] <ari_stress> has anyone tried to install FL_teacher tool in ltsp5 ubuntu?
[12:37] <pygi> yo
[12:49] <ScorpFromHell> ari_stress, that comes setup by default in a server mode installtion of Edubuntu (both LTSP & FL_teacher)
[12:49] <ScorpFromHell> ari_stress, is there a specific reason why you need to setup LTSP on Ubuntu & not go with Edubuntu?
[12:51] <ari_stress> owww
[12:52] <ari_stress> that's nice to know ScorpFromHell
[12:52] <ari_stress> hmmm
[12:52] <ari_stress> i guess i should setup edubuntu
[12:52] <ari_stress> no reason actually
[12:53] <ScorpFromHell> ari_stress, just remember to download the server addon CD too irrespective of whether you want to install it from the desktop CD or the server CD
[12:53] <ScorpFromHell> also ari_stress, get the server CD, the desktop one doesn't have LTSP & FL_teacher
[12:55] <ari_stress> ok, server CD. got it
[12:59] <ScorpFromHell> ari_stress, there's however a small flaw that you need to fix before you can bask in LTSP glory
[13:00] <ScorpFromHell> you need to edit /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf to suit your network
[13:00] <ari_stress> i have my dhcp.conf works currently
[13:01] <ari_stress> actually the ltsp5 works ok now. my ltsp is authenticated to ldap. this is the problem. ldap user is not seen in thin client manager / fl_teachertook
[13:10] <ari_stress> ok, i'm downloading it. looks like it takes 2 days to download the 2 cds
[13:12] <ScorpFromHell> ari_stress, haven't tried out LTSP with LDAP yet, was planning it as my next step
[13:12] <ScorpFromHell> thanks for letting me know, I will be on the lookout for issues :)
[13:12] <ari_stress> ScorpFromHell: not really difficult, especiall when using auth-client-config
[13:12] <ari_stress> very convenient
[13:13] <ari_stress> i'm lucky as the package has just been release on 12 dec 07
[13:13] <ari_stress> previously we must edit pam.d manually
[13:14] <ari_stress> i gtg now
[13:14] <ari_stress> see you all, ScorpFromHell
[15:10] <me4u> hello
[15:10] <me4u> could anyonme help me with a video prob
[15:10] <me4u> d/l mplayer but I'm getting errords
[16:23] <bddebian> Heya
[17:00] <adelie> wow, anyone here?
[17:04] <me4u> anybody tell me how to install a .bin file?
[20:31] <Zarxrax> hi, I was wondering if edubuntu is appropriate for installing on a home laptop? The website sounds like its primarily for use in a school setting.
[20:32] <Zarxrax> We are getting a laptop for my younger sister who is 10 years old, and I am looking for an appropriate linux distribution
[20:32] <johnny> it's not much diff than regular ubuntu, except with other apps installed
[20:32] <johnny> so you could just install ubuntu and then all the edu apps you want
[20:33] <Zarxrax> oh ok
[20:33] <Zarxrax> is the regular version of ubuntu with gnome recommended?
[20:34] <johnny> uhmm.. by who?
[20:34] <johnny> and vs what?
[20:34] <Zarxrax> vs the kde version, im wondering what would be better for a child
[20:34] <Zarxrax> easier to use I guess
[20:34] <HedgeMage> Zarxrax:  Yes, I have set both ubuntu and edubuntu up on lappies before
[20:35] <Zarxrax> I'm not yet a linux user myself
[20:35] <johnny> then are you sure you should be giving linux to your sister?
[20:35] <johnny> not that i don't try to promote linux wherever i can...
[20:35] <Zarxrax> if i give her windows, i know there will be headaches :p
[20:35] <johnny> but you really should use it yourself first imo
[20:35] <HedgeMage> Zarxrax:  The main difference between Edubuntu and regular ubuntu is the art, selection of programs, etc
[20:35] <johnny> otherwise you're going to have headaches learning all sorts of new stuff
[20:36] <pygi> HedgeMage is here o.O
[20:36] <johnny> at least you already know the windows headaches
[20:36] <HedgeMage> pygi:  yes :)
[20:36] <pygi> the old crew is almost back o.O
[20:36] <johnny> i'd suggest you get your own linux install going before giving it to her
[20:36] <johnny> and, i would suggest gnome over kde
[20:36] <johnny> but that's personal preference
[20:37] <pygi> oh, and one more thing you get with Edubuntu is Edubuntu Handbook :P
[20:37]  * pygi hides
[20:37] <Zarxrax> well, i'll set it up to dual boot, in case linux doesnt work out for her
[20:38] <Zarxrax> i want to learn about it myself
[20:38] <HedgeMage> Zarxrax:  I'd suggest edubuntu above other distros for a 10yo -- just expect to have some learning to do too
[20:38] <Zarxrax> I cant use linux on my own pc, since I really need windows for many of the things i do
[20:38] <pygi> Zarxrax: there's this nice thing called dual boot
[20:38] <pygi> you should try it sometimes :)
[20:38] <HedgeMage> heh
[20:39] <Zarxrax> booting into different os's would screw up all my stuff like webserver, torrents, etc
[20:40] <pygi> heh, and ofcourse all that does not and cannot work on linux :P
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[20:41] <HedgeMage> give him a break, guys -- one step at a time :)
[20:41]  * pygi eats HedgeMage 
[20:41] <Zarxrax> well i mean, constantly swapping back and forth would make it problematic
[20:41] <HedgeMage> ooh!
[20:42] <Zarxrax> anyways, ill give regular ubuntu a shot and see how it works out
[20:43] <HedgeMage> Zarxrax:  good luck, we're here for questions and such
[20:44] <johnny> Zarxrax, also, vmware or virtualbox can help
[20:44] <johnny> so you could run a linux install inside windows
[20:44] <johnny> or vice versa
[20:44] <pygi> yup, what johnny said ... vbox is probably easier for a new folks
[20:44] <pygi> new folk*
[20:44] <pygi> bluekuja: you as well o.O
[20:44] <Zarxrax> actually, i've tried that in vmware, and could never get it to work
[20:45] <pygi> Zarxrax: try virtual box
[20:45] <Zarxrax> the graphics would be garbled or something
[20:45] <pygi> and ask if you have questions
[20:45] <bluekuja> pygi, OMG
[20:45] <bluekuja> pygi, are you up again??
[20:45] <Zarxrax> would virtual pc work? I have that installed now
[20:45] <pygi> bluekuja: I'm not on Mount Everest, no!
[20:46] <bluekuja> pygi, lol
[20:46] <johnny> i don't know
[20:46] <johnny> never used virtualpc
[20:46] <pygi> Zarxrax: that's that Microsoft stuff?
[20:46] <bluekuja> pygi, long time no see, where did you go?
[20:46] <Zarxrax> yes
[20:46] <johnny> i dont' have any windows installed
[20:46] <johnny> anywhere
[20:46] <pygi> no idea of it's linux support :-/
[20:46] <pygi> don't use windows sorry
[20:46] <pygi> bluekuja: I was always somewhere on the face of the Earth
[20:46] <Zarxrax> ok, well thanks for the help guys
[20:47] <pygi> yw, drop by any time
[20:47] <pygi> be aware of this bluekuja folk tho ... biting and such :P
[20:47]  * pygi hides
[20:47] <bluekuja>  /kick pygi
[20:47] <bluekuja> :)
[20:47] <bluekuja> oh damn, you're hidden!
[20:47] <bluekuja> it won't work
[20:48] <pygi> well, most of the old edubuntu edition seems to be here =)
[20:48] <bluekuja> yep! mhz is missing
[20:48] <bluekuja> but I saw him some days ago around here again! what a surprise!
[20:48] <pygi> pete is also not around much anymore
[20:48] <pygi> oh well
[20:48] <pygi> times change
[20:49] <bluekuja> yeah :/
[20:49] <bluekuja> I don't see pete since months
[20:49] <pygi> I could sms him to come online, but he's probably busy now
[20:50] <bluekuja> he's not on msn anymore as well
[20:50] <bluekuja> maybe he's busy with family and his work on that school
[20:50] <pygi> he is, yes
[20:51] <bluekuja> aww :/
[20:52] <bluekuja> pygi, news from brasero?
[20:52] <bluekuja> are you working on it?
[20:52] <pygi> ah, not anymore, no
[20:52] <bluekuja> why?
[20:52] <pygi> but Philipe (less, baby :)) and Luis are doing good work on it
[20:52] <bluekuja> I thought you were the main developer
[20:52] <pygi> well, I moved to lower spheres ... changing way how burning works on linux ;)
[20:54] <pygi> bluekuja: http://libburnia-project.org
[20:55] <pygi> bluekuja: not really, I just worked on it  a bit.... back then Phillipe was main developer (and basically still is) since he founded a project
[20:55] <bluekuja> pygi, oh cool! what do you do now?
[20:55] <pygi> bluekuja: I just gave you url :P
[20:55] <bluekuja> pygi, yeah, I mean for *buntu
[20:55] <pygi> oh, nothing
[20:56] <bluekuja> oh k :)
[20:56] <pygi> too much things changed .... years passed even
[20:57] <pygi> I did work for ubuntu during the Google Summer of Code tho
[20:57] <bluekuja> pygi, will you start again somewhen?
[20:57] <pygi> no idea ... why?
[20:57] <pygi> there are a lot of contributors now in general to ubuntu, things are not as before
[20:57] <pygi> and I do more work upstream
[20:58] <bluekuja> yeah, I think thats enough from your side
[20:58] <bluekuja> you gonna rediscover the burning-side of Linux
[20:58] <bluekuja> ehehe
[20:59] <pygi> :p
[20:59] <pygi> doing some ruby work lately, and such :)
[20:59] <pygi> it's fun :P
[21:00] <bluekuja> pygi, do you still live near me?
[21:00] <pygi> hehe, yes :P
[21:01] <bluekuja> we'll have to meet up
[21:01] <bluekuja> :)
[21:01] <pygi> you said that few years ago xD
[21:02] <bluekuja> lol
[21:02] <pygi> no time, uni and hacking getting in a way :-/
[21:02] <pygi> I cant even attend FOSDEM :(
[21:02] <bluekuja> same here, too many things to do
[21:02] <bluekuja> if you'll come to a DebConf
[21:02] <bluekuja> we'll meet there
[21:03] <pygi> nop, probably not
[21:03] <bluekuja> why?
[21:03] <pygi> *possibly* GUADEC
[21:03] <pygi> 1) No idea when or where is DebConf
[21:03] <pygi> 2) Gotta save money for GUADEC
[21:04] <bluekuja> lol
[21:04] <pygi> anyway, lets go pm xD
[21:04] <pygi> thiis is edubuntu channel, not debconf or random talk channel :P
[21:05] <bluekuja> true :)
[21:05] <johnny> reminds me
[21:05] <pygi> little fish left!
[21:05] <pygi> omg :(
[21:05] <johnny> anybody know of any projects/chats where non distro folks get together to work on projects that are not all necessarily related?
[21:06] <pygi> explain? :P
[21:28] <stgraber> anyone familiar with python subprocess module here ? I would like to 1) store the stdout of a command in a variable (works fine with stdin=subprocess.PIPE) 2) and that's the problem, I'd like to show the output live in the terminal too
[21:28] <stgraber> any idea how I can do that ?
[21:40] <johnny> pygi, i'll explain a bit later, i realize i'm going to late to an appointment
[21:41] <pygi> k joh
[23:51] <steph_> hi everybody
[23:51] <steph_> is there a way to use JACK on a thin client?
[23:56] <steph_> Do i have to chat in french or english?
[23:57] <kgoetz> english is prefered