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nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f200:00
tehm0nk-otherpcsame thing as before00:02
tehm0nk-otherpcabout the nvidia module00:02
tehm0nk-otherpcand i dont see anything above that or below it00:02
tehm0nk-otherpcit loads the mouse driver then has a line under that with (EE) No Drivers Available00:03
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: ah..... you know, try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"00:03
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the nvidia driver.00:05
Schuenemannif I hit Ctrl + Alt + F2, how do I return to X?00:05
FireCrotchSchuenemann: ctrl+alt+f700:06
nosrednaekimSchuenemann: CTrl+alt+f700:06
Schuenemannthanks00:06
tehm0nk-otherpcok00:06
tehm0nk-otherpci had to uninstall nvidia-xconfig00:06
tehm0nk-otherpcto get it to install but i did that and it's in now00:07
tehm0nk-otherpcshould i just try to reboot?00:07
tehm0nk-otherpclol00:07
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: no... did you run that dpkg-reconfigure command?00:07
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tehm0nk-otherpcwhoops00:07
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tehm0nk-otherpci ran startx and it booted up00:08
tehm0nk-otherpclol00:08
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: lol... whatever :D00:08
tehm0nk-otherpcwell00:08
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: then don't bother.00:08
tehm0nk-otherpcthis still doesn't fix anything tho00:08
tehm0nk-otherpccause00:08
tehm0nk-otherpci dont know how to configure my video cardS without killing it haha00:08
tehm0nk-otherpci wanna get both my monitors working00:08
tehm0nk-otherpcthats my goal today00:08
tehm0nk-otherpc:(00:08
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: thats not TOO hard... ust remember that dpkg-reconfigure command and you can always go back to your original settings00:09
_Sebulba_I had that same thing with my nvidea 4200 i think in 7.1000:09
tehm0nkargh00:09
_Sebulba_nvidea driver works in every other distro except 7.1000:09
tehm0nkyeah i can't touch anything to do with the drivers without killing the dang xserver00:10
tehm0nkbut nvidia-glx-new are supposed to work right heh00:10
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: yeap00:10
tehm0nkso do any of you run dual monitors?00:10
_Sebulba_mine works fine without the nvidea driver but i dont use any 3d stuff so i dont really need it00:10
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: try using the screens and graphics tool in system settings00:11
tehm0nkwell i want compiz to work lol00:11
tehm0nknos i think that is how i messed it up?00:11
_Sebulba_:( so do I but my ram is borderline and other stuff runs too slow when animation is used00:11
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: nah,compiz won't mess X up00:12
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nosrednaekimtehm0nk: try a nice reboot to see if everything is working on a reboot, cause I'll probably have to be going soon00:13
tehm0nkuh00:13
tehm0nki dont know what to set in the monitor & dislays to make it work?00:13
tehm0nkdo i need to install anything to make it dual monitor?00:14
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: no.00:14
_Sebulba_dont push the mhz setting too high or you'll blow ur monitor00:14
_Sebulba_xp has a failsafe00:14
_Sebulba_not seen any failsafes in linux yet00:15
tehm0nklemme try a reboot00:15
tehm0nkwell00:15
tehm0nkif i try to enable "second screen"00:15
tehm0nki can't select anything over 640x48000:15
tehm0nkand it's not seeing my second monitor00:16
tehm0nkin the hardware tab00:16
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: yeah... do a reboot00:16
tehm0nkbrb hopefully00:16
tehm0nklol00:16
nosrednaekimheh00:18
nosrednaekimthere is alway tehm0nk-otherpc:D00:18
tehm0nk-otherpcok uh00:18
tehm0nk-otherpcthis is jacked up00:18
tehm0nk-otherpchaha00:18
tehm0nk-otherpcit rebooted00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcand i dont think it got stuck where it did00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcbut i think it's stuck...00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcand there is no text00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcor anything00:19
nosrednaekimsooo... where is it stuck?00:19
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f100:19
tehm0nk-otherpcnothing but an nvidia logo really big on the screen00:19
tehm0nk-otherpc...00:19
nosrednaekim0.o00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcdude00:19
tehm0nk-otherpci mean that is just the icing on the cake man00:19
tehm0nk-otherpcLoL00:19
nosrednaekimheh00:20
tehm0nk-otherpckinda like an in your face... HAHA00:20
nosrednaekimdoes ctrl+alt+f1 work?00:20
mothaaaaaaaah00:20
tehm0nk-otherpcno00:21
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: no? haha, wow. umm00:21
nosrednaekimnext time you reboot, remove one of the monitors.00:22
acee1234anyone familiar with kdmtheme? every time i try to install something i getting "the file is not a valid kdm archive"00:22
nosrednaekimacee1234: it probably isn't;)00:22
acee1234http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2671800:22
sonhousehi00:22
acee1234thats the file00:23
tehm0nk-otherpcreinstalled nvidia-glx-new00:24
tehm0nk-otherpcrebooting heh00:24
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: take out one of your monitors.00:24
acee1234what is the proper extension for a kdm file?00:25
tehm0nk-otherpcok rebooting with 1 now00:26
sonhouse100:26
tehm0nk-otherpccourse i get nothin cause00:27
tehm0nk-otherpclemme switch which one is plugged in00:27
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: no nvidia screen?00:27
tehm0nk-otherpci dont know why but as i said earlier...00:27
tehm0nk-otherpcit starts to boot on one screen then switched to the other00:27
acee1234anyone know the prper extension of a kdm theme?00:27
nosrednaekimacee1234: .tgz00:27
tehm0nk-otherpcit did all the outputs on the right screen then nvidia logo on the other after ...00:27
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: yeah, well, if you can get to the command line we are going to get rid of those drivers and start over doing this the right way00:28
tehm0nk-otherpcLOL omg00:29
tehm0nk-otherpcthis is so weird00:29
tehm0nk-otherpcso it didn't even turn the monitor on until the nvidia screen, and then the login screen00:30
tehm0nk-otherpcbut i can log in there now..00:30
tehm0nk-otherpchaving fun yet ?00:30
nosrednaekimhaha00:30
MinatakuWell, X and the kernel use two different video drivers00:30
MinatakuWell, they CAN00:30
MinatakuMy system uses the X11 trident driver for video, but the kernel's tridentfb driver doesn't work00:31
MinatakuSo I use vesafb instead00:31
MinatakuIn theory, if I used tridentfb and X11 trident, X11 would work while the kernel wouldn't00:31
acee1234ok i added the kdm theme it didnt reject the file but it didnt add it as an option ideas?00:32
MinatakuThough it usually doesn't work like that00:32
Minatakulol00:32
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: so its working?00:32
tehm0nkok00:33
tehm0nkso now what lol00:33
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: well, MUST you have two monitors?00:33
tehm0nkYes.00:33
tehm0nkwhy would i have... 400 dollars extra in a second videocard and monitor if i didn't think i needed it lol00:34
tehm0nk:-D00:34
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: ya know, in Linux, there are such things as "virtual desktops00:34
tehm0nkyes i knwo00:34
nosrednaekimtry using linux for a while with one monitor00:34
tehm0nkit'd be nice to have 2 desktops tho too00:34
tehm0nkand it would really be nice if i could get it to stay on One monitor...00:35
tehm0nkcause you know i can't get into the prompt or recovery cause that one stays on the Other monitor...00:35
tehm0nklol00:35
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: haha00:36
tehm0nkso... i'm gonna try to restart the x server...00:36
tehm0nkif that dont work i'm just gonna reboot i guess...00:36
tehm0nkbrb00:36
nosrednaekimok...00:37
Minatakulol00:37
tehm0nk-otherpclol00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcwell00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcheh00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcthat ws insteresting00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcit did the first error again00:39
su-hoens`r1can someone help me install q3?00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcso i reinstalled the nvidia driver again00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcthen hit startx00:39
tehm0nk-otherpcand it worked...00:39
tehm0nkand now it's all on the Right monitor00:40
Nvrnightanyone know where I can get some instructions on compiling a non-standard file?00:40
tehm0nkwhich is nice lol00:40
DeadJoneswhat are you trying to compile?00:40
Nvrnightklassmodeler-0.8.bin.tgz00:41
tehm0nkok one more try at 2 monitors...00:41
tehm0nkheh00:41
DeadJonesgotta uncompress the tgz first00:41
Minataku!compile00:42
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)00:42
Nvrnightty minataku00:43
Nvrnightbtw I fixed my problem I had a couple weeks ago with my screen going off after it would load to 100%00:43
Minatakunp, Nvrnight00:43
Nvrnightwas a problem with my ati card, had to go to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it to vesa driver00:43
Nvrnightjust incase you wanted to know00:44
DeadJonesewww ati00:44
DeadJonesnix + ati = disaster waiting to happen00:44
tehm0nk-otherpcYah, no go00:45
acee1234what channel is best to discus kdm?00:45
nosrednaekimhere00:45
tehm0nk-otherpcgot the first error00:45
tehm0nk-otherpcthen i reinstalled nvidia-glx-new00:45
tehm0nk-otherpcthen i ran startx00:45
nosrednaekimtehm0nk-otherpc: and...00:45
tehm0nk-otherpcand i got the xserver error00:46
tehm0nk-otherpcjust like before00:46
acee1234nosrednaekim: ok, i when i install a kdm theme it does not show up as a new option whats going on there?00:46
Minatakutehm0nk-otherpc: When you're typing a single thought, hit enter AFTER you're done typing all of it00:46
Minatakulol00:46
nosrednaekimacee1234: that module is buggy, I never could get it working predictably00:46
su-hoens`r1can someone help me install quake3.... when i try i get the following error from the installer: This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_6400:47
tehm0nk-otherpcMinataku: sure thing buddy00:47
acee1234nosrednaekim: so manual install?00:47
MinatakuThanks00:47
Minatakulol00:47
nosrednaekimacee1234: I have no clue ho to even do that00:47
nosrednaekimsu-hoens`r1: just what it said... no x86_64 support00:48
su-hoens`r1nosrednaekim: what does that have to do with my question00:48
Minatakusu-hoens`r1: It means it's not going to work.00:48
MinatakuPeriod.00:48
nosrednaekimsu-hoens`r1: it means you need to run either i386 or ina chroot environment00:49
MinatakuCan you do that? x32 libs in a chroot on an x64 machine?00:49
nosrednaekimMinataku: yeah00:49
MinatakuHm, I didn't know that.00:49
nosrednaekim!autolib00:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autolib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:49
nosrednaekim!autolibs00:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autolibs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:49
nosrednaekimthere is a tool to do it00:50
Minatakunosrednaekim: If the factoid was even remotely useful, it was deleted00:50
Minataku:P00:50
MinatakuThey did that to my !xrandr as well00:50
nosrednaekimheh00:50
MinatakuI used that all the time00:50
nosrednaekimMinataku: redo it00:50
MinatakuNah, I'm sure it'll get rejected00:51
MinatakuIt was, I assume, folded into a less intuitive !resolution00:51
nosrednaekimah00:51
MinatakuWhere I have to specifically tell them which link to choose00:51
tehm0nk-otherpcdpkg -l | more | grub?grab?grumble? i forgot what it what...00:53
tehm0nk-otherpc*what is was00:53
nosrednaekimgrep?00:53
PiemanDCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 000:57
MinatakuHaha, real nice00:57
MinatakuTie a whole bunch into one00:57
MinatakuMultithreaded assholery00:57
Minatakulol00:57
MinatakuUh, LjL00:58
* Minataku sighs00:58
MinatakuUH00:59
MinatakuWhy did you just unban the guy who used the exploit!?00:59
LjLMinataku, why does that concern you?00:59
david__google01:01
david__hey01:01
david__whats goin on01:01
NvrnightAnyone know of any free software that can be used on Ubuntu to create UML charts?01:01
LjL!info umbrello | Nvrnight01:01
ubotunvrnight: umbrello: UML modelling tool and code generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2083 kB, installed size 5648 kB01:01
Nvrnightty01:02
pacmanhow do I turn a .daa into a .iso01:03
MinatakuLjL: Excuse me for caring about the users of the channel.01:03
LjLMinataku, a ban may be done by mistake. but *removing* a ban is hardly done by mistake.01:04
MinatakuWhich is why my mind was boggling at why it was done01:05
jhutchinsbans should be used sparingly.01:05
maninderi installed compiz and i restarted the settings didnt save01:08
maninderso how do i make compiz wok again01:08
maninderemerald --replaceÉ01:08
maninderwork*01:09
maninderany help hereÉ01:14
flaccid_!ask01:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:14
flaccid_oh you already did01:14
flaccid_maninder: compiz --replace01:14
flaccid_to go back use kwin --replace01:14
LjLMinataku: that guy was k-lined, that's why01:15
MinatakuOkay01:15
flaccid_fair enough01:15
MinatakuThat's a good reason01:15
Minatakulol01:15
MinatakuSorry, LjL01:15
maninderkwin --replace01:15
maninderdoesnt work01:15
flaccid_come to help today LjL :)01:16
flaccid_!doesntwork01:16
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:16
maninderwhat shall i doÉ01:16
LjLhelp with compiz? no thanks :P01:16
flaccid_haha01:16
maninderhurry hurry01:16
maninderi need help01:16
maninder:(01:16
maninderhow do i fix compiz01:16
maninderi tried emerald --replace01:17
maninderhello01:18
maninderlol this is dead01:18
flaccid_no you are not listening maninder01:19
manindertell me01:19
flaccid_what is the output from compiz --replace01:19
maninderwhat command to type on konsole01:19
maninderits in my settings folder01:19
flaccid_you can't just say it doesnt' work. there i likely a reason why it is not working. it doesn't fix itself01:19
flaccid_i=is01:20
maninderlol01:20
maninderlong story short01:20
maninderwhat do i type01:20
maninderinsall compiz01:20
maninderinstall01:20
flaccid_!compiz | maninder01:21
ubotumaninder: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:21
flaccid_depends on ubuntu version01:21
flaccid_you might also want to detailed help in #compiz-fusion01:21
flaccid_please pastebin the output maninder01:23
flaccid_anyone know how to change alt + tab behaviour - i didn't even have a popup showing the windows when i press alt tab and it tabs in a weird order01:30
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sub[t]rnlhrm, I use that compiz plugin for mine01:31
mox69__flaccid: hold down alt, then press tab, but keep hold down alt, the window should pop up...01:33
tandathow can i remote desktop from kubuntu?01:42
ardchoilletandat: kmenu > internet > krdc01:42
tandatthank, i will try it01:44
flaccidmox69__: thats my point. it doesnt.01:48
flaccidreally annoying it is01:48
flaccidfresh gutsy install to it was01:48
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mox69__flaccid: maybe the alt key on yer keyboard was broken :)01:58
flaccidthen it wouldn't work at all02:00
flaccidi reckon problem is ubuntu or kde. thing is kde seems way more buggy on ubuntu. i never get issues like this on freebsd02:00
flaccidah fixed02:04
flaccidits in Window Behaviour02:04
flaccidglad that is fixed02:06
CPrgmSwR2Hi02:12
maninderi installed m player02:14
maninderbut the dvd wont play02:14
Creaturmaninder: Tried with VLC ?02:15
CreaturI usually have more success with that one.02:15
sub[t]rnlMake sure you have support for dvd playback02:15
sub[t]rnla good package to install is kubuntu-restricted-extras02:15
brad__hey02:15
brad__i'm having some trouble with flash on kubuntu 64bit02:16
brad__gutsy02:16
brad__and its been working for months and suddenly is messing up and not really working02:16
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sub[t]rnlbrad__: what browser are you using?02:17
brad__I'm using konqueror...and it was working up to today though firefox had been having problems with it02:19
brad__and I unisntalled and reinstalled some things and it briefly worked on firefox but wont now02:19
brad__firefox LOVES to freeze02:19
brad__and has been like this for a few weeks but I generally only use it when something wont work on konq02:19
sub[t]rnlyeah it does02:19
brad__but on konqeuror generally just the flash area is frozen, on firefox the whole browser freezes02:20
brad__and it just kind of stopped working out of nowhere today and I've already reset etc02:20
Zok|guys, I need lil help .. I got new, fresh installed Kubuntu distribution, and I can't "./configure" anything :/ .. I got error message: Can't find X libraries02:22
sub[t]rnlbrad__: have you reinstalled the flashplugin-nonfree package?02:22
Zok|any help how to fix it? :S02:22
ardchoilleZok|: What are you compiling? And did you install build-essential?02:22
Zok|ardchoille yes, I'm trying to install amarok, but it doesn't matter what I try, at all I got that error02:23
ardchoilleZok|: You should already have amarok installed02:24
Zok|ardchoille, yes but I got some errors, and I want to recompile02:24
brad__sub[t]rnl: yes I reinstalled and it did nothing02:24
Zok|and nothing else I can't compile :S02:24
ardchoilleZok|: What are the errors with your current amarok? It might be possible to fix them instead of compiling02:25
ardchoilleZok|: Did you install build-essential?02:26
Zok|ardchoille, I cannot isntall mp3 support .. when I click yes at question, amarok were asking to restart the program to work fine .. but after restarting it, still doesn't have mp3 support02:27
Zok|ardchoille yes02:27
brad__bear in mind I am on 64bit02:28
ardchoilleZok|: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg02:28
ardchoilleZok|: Then try restarting amarok and see if the mp3 support works02:28
Zok|ardchoille, it's okay about amarok, I'll fix him latter, can u help me with this "X libraries" ?02:29
SanityInAnarchyI just got an Apple keyboard, looking to swap command and alt. Google is giving me a bit too much; any idea where to start?02:30
ardchoilleZok|: Sounds like you need development libraries for xorg. Try sudo apt-get install xorg-dev02:31
jorge__Just a quike.... Anyone know how I can enable my slave HDD (FAT) to be writeable?02:31
jorge__I c an't delete/save stuff to my FAT slave HDD...02:32
ardchoillejorge__: Check the permissions on the mount point02:32
jorge__I can't cuz only root has permissions to change them...02:33
acee1234what file in kdm file dictates the positions of the different buttons and fields?02:33
jorge__And I don't know how to change it...02:33
ardchoillejorge__: Therein lies the answer to your problem.02:33
jorge__So, how do I change it?02:33
jorge__I've tried the properties thingy02:33
jorge__just changed back02:33
ardchoillejorge__: ls -l /path/to/mountpoint02:34
jorge__?02:34
jorge__So, it says root owns it.02:35
jorge__How do I chnage it?02:35
ardchoillejorge__: You wan to change the owner:group?02:35
jorge__yeah02:36
jorge__I want to own it.02:36
brad__so does anyone think they can help me with my flash going to hell?02:36
volinefat discs don't do permissions02:36
ardchoillejorge__: sudo chown -R $(whoami) /path/mountpoint02:36
ardchoillevoline: No, but the mount point in Linux does02:37
mr_garrapataSorry, I killed the x11...02:38
volineyou need a line analogous to this one in /etc/fstab02:38
voline/dev/sde5/mnt/seagatemp2vfatuid=500,gid=5000 002:38
mr_garrapataSo, how do I change my permissions?02:38
mr_garrapataI can't from kcontrol :(02:38
volinethe necessary changes being made02:38
mr_garrapata?02:39
mr_garrapataI'm lost...02:39
ZombieAlright I have an issue wth Ubuntu joining my Domain.02:40
ZombieThis is probably why my initial upgrade failed.02:41
ZombieUbuntu locks up if it cannot find my Domain Controller.02:41
manindermy keyboard is acting weird how do i set it up02:44
manindercan i get the drievr for it02:44
ChaosMachinemaninder, your going to need to be a little more specific than 'weird'02:46
Jay-Oh-Enhow come my internet02:49
Jay-Oh-Enis so slow02:49
flaccidhow slow is it02:50
flaccidis it slower than mine02:50
Dr_willis'its sooooooooooooo slow.......'02:50
Dr_willis :)02:51
flaccidits all relative02:51
maninderwell my keybord doesnt let me type proper like when i do question mark i get thisÉ02:51
flaccidyou could hire a network engineer to find the bottleneck02:51
maninderhow do i fix itÉ02:51
Dr_willisÉÉÉÉ???02:51
Dr_willishmm02:51
maninderye02:51
maninderany fixes02:51
maninderi could od02:52
maninderdo*02:52
Dr_williswhat language are you using for the system?02:52
maninderhow do i check that02:52
maninderlike i cant even type at in my e-mail adress02:52
Dr_willisNo idea. I always use the defaults. :) english02:52
maninderso i cant even log into msn02:52
maninderhow do i change it02:52
Dr_willisWhat language are you supposed to be using? Englush? german? Dutch? swahilli?02:53
maninderenglish02:56
maninderi fixed it02:56
manindershoudl i restart and see if it changed02:56
NickPrestai love these03:07
dwidmannI'vvvvvvvvvvve got a quick question ...... I'm getting a seemingly strange behaviour from xbindkeys ..... it's like it's running the commands twice ..03:14
level1Has anyone here every successfully gotten a persistent usb installation?  What tutorial (if any) did you use?03:15
CPrgmSwR2level1 I have with no tutorial03:16
CPrgmSwR2it just works03:16
level1CPrgmSwR2: yeah, take you situation, invert it, and that's my situation :/03:17
level1CPrgmSwR2: how did you do it?03:17
Dr_williseleven magic!03:19
Dr_willisElfen :)03:19
level1elven?03:20
level1I don't know why, but persistant usb installs fail 100% of the time for me.  I've been trying for well over a year now03:21
Dr_willisLittle Linux Elfs spreading Joy and GPL to all good boys and girls.03:21
Dr_willis:)03:21
level1Dr_willis: I must not have been good this year :)03:22
Dr_willisubuntu really  isent the best live cd disrto out. DSL/Puppy seem a lot better for me  for persistant homes and so forth.03:22
* Dr_willis hands level1 some C.O.A.L Packets03:22
level1Dr_willis: I have something of a hatred for sub-DE window managers (I think DSL uses fluxbox)03:23
level1I like kde a lot. If I had to use gnome or xfce, well, I guess it would be okay, but I really don't like WMs03:23
Dr_willisDSL is now using jwm last i tried it. of course its customizable. :)03:23
Dr_willisthe SLAX live cd - is also very well done.03:24
Dr_willisBut it all depends on your needs.03:24
Dr_willisPuppy/DSL/Slax - used by me to rescue windows systems a lot and have emergancy 'linux clients' to trouble shoot lans and other things. :)03:24
Dr_willisThen of course I have GeeXbox on my laptop for video watching and ubuntu as well.03:25
level1Dr_willis: how is slax?  Is it "hard"?  I'm very lazy, in case your wondering03:25
level1but I'll give it a try03:25
Dr_willisSlax is proberly one of the easiest to customize live cds out there. I think they were ven working on having a presistant home, on a ftp server, or some where else on the internet. :)03:26
maninderany one know how to fix compiz fusion the cube effect?03:27
maninderany one now how to install compiz fusion?03:31
Minatakuwb03:34
MinatakuDr_Willis: Say, would you by chance be watching Futurama?03:34
Minatakulol03:34
Dr_willisnope.. Tokyo Mew Mew. :)03:35
Minataku:D03:35
MinatakuIs it any good?03:35
Dr_willisHmm.. Opening a .avi under windows with vlc.. and Vista pops up a dialog about how opening this kind of file may not be safe....03:35
stdin#kubuntu-offtopic please03:35
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* Minataku rolls eyes03:36
stdinDr_willis: well that's because opening any file in windows isn't safe ;)03:36
Dr_willisIve never understood some of these security issues befor.. How can  video file, or jpeg ever be unsafe? i recall hearing about jpeg viruses ages ago.03:36
Dr_willisSigned/pgp/and so forth for executables and such. I understand. but whats the point of a warning,, that has NO alterantives?03:37
stdinbecause the windows file preview app runs as a kernel process, so has full access to the system03:37
MinatakuHaha03:38
Dr_willisPreview? Hmm i got no preview.03:38
MinatakuSo much for Vista's security03:38
stdinthat's what happens when you build your file/web browser into the kernel03:38
MinatakuBTW, stdin...03:38
MinatakuTAKE IT TO OFFTOPIC03:38
stdinMinataku: yes, I know :)03:38
MinatakuVista != Kubuntu03:38
* Minataku cackles maniacally03:38
MinatakuXD03:38
MinatakuSorry. I couldn't resist.03:38
Minataku:)03:38
stdindon't blame you for that one :)03:38
Dr_willisIve also wonderd speaking of Prevews.. Gnome can show previews of avi, and .divx files for me.. but not seen Konqueror do that.03:39
Dr_willisCan IT do that? or have i missed a setting somewhere.03:39
* Dr_willis notices his vista warning only comes from when he loads the file over the samba share..not if the identical file is stored locally.. so it seems that 'anything on a share' gets a warning... and only THEN if you 'right click' and open with.. somthing other then the default app...03:40
MinatakuHaha03:40
MinatakuKinda like how Apple makes anything that they didn't make suck on OSX03:41
MinatakuDon't believe me? Try Firefox or Opera.03:41
* Dr_willis wonders who gets paid to come up with this stuff.. I mean there are 'security' experts out there that are working for these big companies?03:41
* Dr_willis files a Class Action Law Suit Against Apple.. for... well.. anything.03:41
Dr_williscan konqueror show avi previews/thumbnails? i still cant figure that out.03:42
flaccidum not really, apple didn't develop firefox or opera03:42
MinatakuExplain why perfectly good programs suddenly run like crap under OSX, then.03:43
Dr_willissince when did logic matter in law suits?03:43
Dr_willis:)03:43
MinatakuApple loves their closed little box03:43
MinatakuThey want ultimate control over everything03:43
flaccidbecause the developers of the programs03:43
MinatakuRemember OpenDarwin? Neither does anyone else.03:43
flaccidif you can cite something specific, Minataku you may have an argument03:43
ardchoillePlease take the apple/OSX chat to off-topic03:43
stdinok, this time it should be in #kubuntu-offtopic03:43
Minatakulol03:44
MinatakuSorry.03:44
MinatakuXD03:44
flaccidcode base is dif so why would you compare apples with bananas . anyway yeah OT03:44
meuhlol???03:44
meuhlolcherry is better :p03:45
Dr_willisIts all BSD!03:45
Dr_willis:)03:45
* Dr_willis is reminded of a PC gamers mag. that referrd to OS-X as "BSDLinux"03:45
MinatakuActually, no03:45
MinatakuDarwin is a Mach kernel with FreeBSD userland and NeXTSTEP GUI.03:45
MinatakuWell, actually, the GUI is only OSX03:45
MinatakuOSX, BTW, not an operating system03:46
* stdin silently points at #kubuntu-offtopic while looking at Minataku and Dr_willis03:46
MinatakuOSX is a Darwin distribution03:46
* Dr_willis jabbers on about GnuStep03:46
* Jay-Oh-En knows if it was me he would shout "Go to #kubuntu-offtopic03:46
Dr_williswmakerbuntu? :) Whats the current cound of Ubuntu variants now?03:46
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Jay-Oh-Enanyways can somebody help me with installing bootsplashes? pwetty pwease03:47
MinatakuSorry, BTW. Again.03:48
MinatakuI just had to set the facts straight.03:48
Minataku:P03:48
Jay-Oh-Enanyways can somebody help me with installing bootsplashes? pwetty pwease Edit: and a grub bootscreen also :]03:48
Dr_willisI alwys disable that icky eyecandy. :)03:48
meuhlolgrub bootscreen virgin is better :p03:49
MinatakuHeh, watch out with GRUB bootscreens, though03:50
MinatakuIf it breaks, you won't be able to see anything03:50
Minatakulol03:50
meuhlolahahaha03:50
meuhlolso let it be virgin :p03:50
meuhlolit's much pretty cool :p03:50
stdinJay-Oh-En: "apt-get install kubuntu-grub-splashimages" and add "splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/(splash image you want).gz" to your menu.lst03:51
Jay-Oh-Enmeuhlol: well what about bootsplashes :(03:51
Jay-Oh-Enand hanks stdin i luh you03:51
meuhlolan dude, (from windoze land) come one day to my home and ask me: "what the hell? what you hack there?!" my answer "nothing, i just updating some packages :D03:51
bobesponjadoes this site make your konquror crash http://site.on.nimp.org ?03:52
meuhlolhuh Jay-Oh-En ask someone other, i'm bored to repair Acer Aspire laptop lol HDD or CDRom drive would work correctly... 1hour to reinstall windows in it. And now CD drive told me an secret "cyclic error" muhaha03:52
Jay-Oh-Enmeuhlol: ew windows :[03:53
meuhlolnot for me03:54
Jay-Oh-Eni like it too03:54
Jay-Oh-Enbut not for my system03:54
meuhlolfor my ex girlfriend :)03:54
Jay-Oh-Eni like it for other people03:54
meuhlolit's her laptop03:54
Jay-Oh-Enits easier for me to fix03:54
meuhlolthis *bip* of laptop was in technical service 3 times, and last time guaranty is finished :D03:54
meuhlol1 time motherboard changed & CDRom drive, 2nd time HDD & CDRom, 3rd time HDD drive...03:55
Dr_willisso the only original part left is the mouse?03:56
meuhlollol03:56
MinatakuXD03:56
MinatakuThe screen sounds original03:56
meuhlolyep, wifi & ethernet too, modem too, huh keyboard too, ram the same, pros the same and and and... Acer signal-up xD03:57
MinatakuHeh03:57
meuhlolfu*bip* antena :D03:57
MinatakuI wonder if Acer and Acer Labs Inc. are ==03:57
poeticrpm_By the way.. kudos to the kubuntu community- 7.10 was a major improvement.. im glad its gotten so much more stable (kde 3.5.8 helps here too)03:57
MinatakuBecause ALi hardware is excellent03:57
MinatakuBut Acer laptops are pretty dismal.03:58
MinatakuI think they're definitely separate.03:58
meuhlolI give my preference to Fujitsu Siemens & Asus :)03:58
MinatakuToshiba. No question.03:58
MinatakuBest laptops money can buy.03:58
meuhlolToshiba = recycle bin03:58
MinatakuThey earn _MY_ highest recommendations03:58
MinatakuAnd I don't like a lot of things.03:59
meuhlolHP too03:59
MinatakuJust ask around.03:59
MinatakuNo, Toshibas are the best laptops, nay, the best PCs one can purchase.03:59
meuhlolMy 3 friends who bought HP Pavillion series, all of them haven't always problems xD03:59
MinatakuI should know. I have four of them.03:59
MinatakuFrom 2003 to 1987.03:59
MinatakuMy main system, Piyoko, is a Toshiba laptop03:59
MinatakuLinux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #2 PREEMPT Mon Sep 3 21:53:19 EDT 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux03:59
meuhlolme don't like much toshibas03:59
Minataku 22:59:47 up 78 days, 10:15,  6 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.0103:59
MinatakuAnd the record is 98 days greater than the current04:00
Minatakulol04:00
Dr_willisHmm.. Seen several toshiba laptops at work with nasty over heating problkems..04:00
Minataku0 problems.04:00
maninderi installed compiz fusion how do i open it?04:00
Dr_willis!compiz04:00
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:00
MinatakuAnd the headaches that come with eating too much eyecandy.04:00
Dr_willisbe sure you got all the bits installed you need. and run 'compiz --replace' and 'emerald --replace' to test.04:00
MinatakuOr something.04:00
Minatakulol04:00
Dr_willisinstall the ccsm tool also.,04:01
maninderIDENTIFY <superman101>04:01
Minataku004:01
MinatakuUh oh04:01
Dr_willis:)04:01
MinatakuChange your password04:01
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meuhlollol04:01
maninderlolz04:01
meuhlolself owned :p04:01
* Dr_willis gets out the Kyrptonite.04:01
maninderi need help with startcompiz04:02
MinatakuEither it wasn't his password, or Freenode (or at least #kubuntu) users are very well behaved.04:02
Minatakulol04:02
maninderhow do i run compiz fusion04:02
meuhloloooooooh noooooooo04:02
Dr_willisbe sure you got all the bits installed you need. and run 'compiz --replace' and 'emerald --replace' to test.04:02
MinatakuAnywhere else and he'd have been ghosted by now.04:02
meuhlolgod damn it... my last cigaret :(04:02
Dr_willisThe Compiz wiki page posted mentiones  all this.04:02
poeticrpm_maninder.. you have it installed and do you have video drivers installed?04:02
maninderi have ati grapgics card04:03
MinatakuCompiz users. The new AOL users.04:03
Minataku:P04:03
Minatakuj/k04:03
MinatakuXD04:03
meuhlollol04:03
Dr_willisati? ICK..04:03
Dr_willisid give up now.04:03
ardchoille!language | meuhlol04:03
ubotumeuhlol: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.04:03
maninderi want that cube effect04:03
maninderany way how i can get it04:03
Dr_willisthe things people will do for useless eye candy. :) and the cube is proberly the most useless feature of compiz.04:04
maninderlol04:04
maninderstill04:04
maninderi wana know04:04
MinatakuSo useless04:04
maninderhow to use it04:04
Dr_willischeck the !compiz wiki page. theres proberly some extra work to do ti get it working with ati cards.,04:04
poeticrpm_post the results of glxinfo in a pastebin04:04
bazhangmaninder: there is a channel dedicated to questions such as that: #compiz-fusion04:04
MinatakuWhen a simple L/R flipper will accomplish the same, much faster, much easier AND with more capability.04:04
MinatakuWith a spinning cube, you're limited to the number of sides a cube has in the number of virtual desktops you have04:05
MinatakuYou may as well have 0.04:05
Minataku:P04:05
maninderlolzz04:05
maninderyou know the number of desk tops04:05
Minataku...04:05
maninderi have it set to one04:05
maninderbut yet i still see 404:05
maninderthey dont even work04:05
maninderonly 1 does04:05
MinatakuI was hoping you knew that a cube has 6 sides, but maybe Compiz users ARE the new AOL users. :P04:05
Dr_willisYou MUST use the ccsm tool to set the # Of desktops04:06
Minatakuj/k04:06
Minatakulol04:06
* Dr_willis uses 12 sides.. so he has a hexiapentagram04:06
Minataku0 desktops.04:06
maninderlolz04:06
maninderi think the cubes sick04:06
Dr_willisHeptigram04:06
maninderfor linux04:06
MinatakuThat would be interesting. Or just a blank screen.04:06
maninderit seperates it from windows and apple04:06
Dr_willisNot really. :)04:07
madusereverytime i play frets on fire the stage lights flash too bright04:07
acee1234anyone know how to get sensors working on a dell e1505 with 7.10 and ls_sensors?04:07
* Dr_willis will be glad when this compiz cube fetish passes..04:07
Minatakumaduser: You've got a guitar. Smash them out.04:07
Minataku:D04:07
maduser...............04:07
MinatakuThen stage dive off an amp04:07
MinatakuI'm making jokes, BTW.04:08
Minataku:P04:08
MinatakuAs for your question, this isn't the place for it.04:08
* Dr_willis jamms to Kenny G.04:08
acee1234where is04:08
WandererCan anyone tell me how to turn on multiple desktops in kde4 ?04:08
* Minataku shakes head04:09
Dr_willisWanderer,  if using Compiz, you must enable them with the CCSM tool. under the general tab/settings area04:09
Wandererand I can't turn on the desktop affects, it says I don't have XComposite and XDamage even though I have them installed04:09
Minatakuacee1234: I wasn't talking to you04:09
MinatakuI can't answer your question though04:09
Minataku!sensors04:09
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto04:09
MinatakuTry that link, acee123404:09
Dr_willisWhat video card Wanderer ?04:09
WandererDr_willis, is ccsm in the system menu somewhere or do I ahve to do it from a term?04:09
MinatakuPersonally, I'm surprised there was a factoid for that.04:09
Dr_willisi always run it from the terminal.. who knows where they got it hidden. :)04:09
MinatakuThough the bot doesn't seem to confident about it's usefulness.04:10
Minatakulol04:10
Dr_willis!ccsm04:10
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion04:10
WandererDr_willis: ATI Radeon 140004:10
Wandererthanks04:10
Dr_willisthe !compiz factoid page has some info on ccsm and compiz thats worth reading04:10
Dr_willisgood luck with an ATI card.04:10
WandererI got compiz working in kde3 with it04:10
MinatakuATI personally hates anyone who doesn't use Windows.04:10
WandererIt's a laptop, can't change it04:10
holycowwell they did release full specs of everything but the drm units04:11
maduserYou can change a labtops card04:11
holycowso its not quite so simple any more04:11
maduserits just a bitch to do so04:11
holycowwe can now write our own ... maybe04:11
Dr_willisi got a x200m in my laptop. I dont even attempt compiuz with it. :)04:11
MinatakuShould've made a smarter purchasing decision, then.04:11
Wandererhmm, no compiz in appearance properties04:12
neville-_-v04:12
Minatakuholycow: Right, the parts that are needed for all this bullcrap.04:12
Wandererlooks like something isn't quite right04:12
MinatakuThanks, AMD. You release the most useless parts of the specification, and that's supposed to make us happy?04:12
MinatakuSorry, I'll try to calm down.04:12
poeticrpm_you mean for the new ati drivers?04:13
MinatakuI have zero patience for idiotic proprietarism.04:13
Minataku0.04:13
* Dr_willis gives Minataku a prozak04:13
* Minataku refuses it04:13
Minatakulol04:13
MinatakuI only take what's perscribed to me04:13
* Dr_willis gives sticks 2 prozaks in Minataku's nostrals.04:13
* Minataku fires them out04:13
MinatakuPlease, don't do that04:13
Dr_willistake 2 of these and if you live through the night - call me in the morning.,..04:13
MinatakuI don't find it funny.04:13
NoiseBOXPerhaps someone could tell me. Why is it that modules i've added to the modprobe.conf/blacklist are still getting loaded on reboot? And if the blacklist doesn't work, where else can i turn to solve this problem?04:14
* Minataku throws them in the trash04:14
Dr_williswhat modules NoiseBOX ? you sure ya got the names right>04:14
MinatakuDr_willis: Please, don't joke with me like that.04:14
Minataku:P04:14
* Dr_willis is the Dr of Love and writes perscriptions. 04:15
Dr_williswhich my wife ignores..04:15
NoiseBOXDr_willis: i82875p_edac and edac_mc04:15
Dr_willis:(04:15
Dr_willisNoiseBOX,  could go hard core and rename the modules. :(04:15
Minataku:o04:15
Dr_willisbut its odd that blacklist is ignoring them04:15
Dr_willisi wonder if somthing else (some other module) is loading them04:15
MinatakuI already take medications for my ADD and OCD04:16
Minataku:P04:16
Dr_willisI just have GAS.04:16
NoiseBOXDr_willis: yeah the last ditch effort i might have to do that :\04:16
Dr_willisNoiseBOX,  check the lsmod output - see if they are depending on somthing else.  I wonder how blacklisting handles that.04:16
MinatakuSorry, I can't handle some things intended as humor due to my OCD.04:17
Minatakulol04:17
Dr_williseat more MSG. :)04:17
NoiseBOXDr_willis:  edac_mc depends on i82875p_edac, and that is where it ends i don't need either module for proper function04:17
Dr_willisInteresting.04:18
Dr_williswhat are these modules for anyway> and why is loading them a problem?04:18
MinatakuWell, loaded but unused modules don't hurt anything04:18
MinatakuAnd likely the memory they take up is absolutely trivial04:18
Dr_willisim amazed that linux can proerly load the proper modules..04:19
NoiseBOXDr_willis: There is a bug that prevents the radeon drivers on this machine from providing direct rendering because the edac modules prevent intel_agp from binding with the intel_agp properly04:19
Dr_willisits like magic.04:19
Minataku!modules04:19
ubotuTo compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard !kernel, install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see !blacklist04:19
MinatakuHm04:19
Minataku!blacklist04:19
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »04:19
MinatakuYou've done that, I take it?04:19
Dr_willisHmm.. i wonder IF they are loading from the initrd...04:20
NoiseBOXubotu: my problem is the blacklist file ISN'T preventing them from loading. I'll have to check the init.rd04:20
Dr_williswell bbl ya all..04:20
NoiseBOXMinataku: i wouldn't mind the modules there, but it's causing a bug with direct rendering on radeon drivers04:21
MinatakuRight, that's a bit of a problem there04:22
Minatakulol04:22
MinatakuI can't help you here, sorry04:22
MinatakuNoiseBOX: Hang around, though04:22
NoiseBOXMinataku: lol, bummer thanks04:22
MinatakuNoiseBOX: I'm sure someone else can.04:22
Minataku:D04:22
NoiseBOXHow can i check if they're getting loaded during the initrd process? I imagine they're loaded up before th blacklist is even checked04:23
mrdigitalwhats a good Site for help moving from Windows to Linux04:23
madusersite?04:24
maduserare there any?04:24
maduserI find linux as a leap of faith04:24
bazhangmrdigital: like the ubuntu wiki?04:24
Jay-Oh-Enwhat can i use to unrar04:24
Jay-Oh-En!rar04:24
Jay-Oh-En!unrar04:24
Jay-Oh-En!ping04:25
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:25
ubotupong04:25
bazhanguhoh04:25
Jay-Oh-Enoh04:25
Jay-Oh-Enthere it goes04:25
nevilleI've lost my address bar in Konquerer, how do I get it back?04:25
poeticrpm_settings>toolbars>address bar04:26
nevilleahh04:28
nevilleThanks <304:28
poeticrpm_neville- np04:29
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Jay-Oh-Enhow do i make kubuntu start up in silent mode everytime04:35
Jay-Oh-Enand have can i add a background image to it04:35
maduserto the splash screen or grup screen?04:36
maduserto the splash screen or grub screen?04:36
Jay-Oh-Ensplash04:37
maduserits very possible04:38
maduserI changed mine04:38
madusergo to kde look04:38
maduserand donload a splash screen04:38
maduserthen install it04:38
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: you shouldve said my name before it cause im doing stuff so im constantly looking up in the right corner to check if i got a message on irc04:38
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: i mean make my bootsplash go into silent mode on the startup04:39
Jay-Oh-Enlike this04:39
Jay-Oh-Enhttp://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/63598-1.jpg04:39
maduserUmmmm04:40
mikedotyHow do I change resolution04:51
Dr_willis!fixres04:52
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:52
mikedotyResolution was easy to change in xfce.  I must have had it first in line in my xorg.conf file when I used gnome.  I remember being disappointed that you needed to edit a config file to change your resolution.04:53
Jay-Oh-Encan somebody help me do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg04:54
tazgodxfor some reason when i try to burn my new ubuntu ISo i just d/led K3B tells me taht i need to insert a blank CD-R media04:55
tazgodxanyone know of this problem?04:55
* Dr_willis perfers a simple config file he can edit.04:57
Dr_willisIf you knew how much of a pain it was say 5+ yrs ago... :)04:57
Dr_willisif you are just changing the default res for a user. I think thats a per user setting you can set.04:58
mrdigitalJay-Oh-En: thats effin hot04:58
tazgodxJay-Oh-En: if you figure that out, let me know how :)04:59
Dr_willisthats just a fancy console framebuffer image.04:59
Jay-Oh-Entazgodx: lol look on kde-look.org under splash screens04:59
tazgodxanyone have any idea about my K3B problem?05:03
stdindo you have a blank CD-R in the selected drive?05:05
tazgodxyeah05:06
tazgodxi have 2 DVD burners and i tried in both05:06
tazgodxi really need this burnt, i have another computer sitting here waiting for the install05:08
Dr_willisHmm..05:08
Dr_willisive seen other mention similer issues.. but not sure what the problem is.05:09
tazgodxyeah i saw a few posts on the forums, and no solutions posted05:09
Dr_willisif you insert a blank disk without k3b running, does it pop up any dialogs?05:09
tazgodxyeah, when i insert a blank disk with K3B open or closed it pops up asking what i want to do with the blank disk. i usually say do nothing05:10
madusernothing i install works with winw05:11
madusernothing i install works with wine05:11
Dr_willismaduser,  and what may we ask, have you tried?05:11
holycowmaduser: well why would you expect it to? only select things actually work05:11
maduserwindows media palyer, divx the super conveter half life 205:12
Dr_williswell dont expect WMP to ever work, if you are refering to that video converter tool called 'super' Well. you may want to try som eother linux tools.05:13
Dr_willisHalflife/steam i hear can work with wine.05:13
Jay-Oh-Enso nobody knows how to do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg05:13
tazgodxif your trying super converter, it says on it, won't work with wine05:13
tazgodxJay-Oh-En: turn boot screen verbose mode on, however that is done05:14
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  you set up the default framebuffer background using that image.05:14
Dr_willis!splash05:14
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.05:14
Dr_willisHmm thats not it...05:14
Dr_willis!bootsplasy05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplasy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:14
Dr_willis!bootsplash05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:14
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: and tazgodx no idea how to do either of those but both of those answers are the ones i wanted  :]05:15
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  you got some learning to do then. :)05:15
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis:05:15
Jay-Oh-Enim an open book05:15
Jay-Oh-Enteach me! :]05:15
Dr_willisi forget where that file even is located at. you find it. change it. rerun the tool that regenerates the initrd, i belive05:15
Dr_willisi normally DISABLE such eyecandy05:15
Dr_willisthat sort of image/framebuffer stuff actually can slow down your console :)05:16
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: i just want verbose mode everytime05:16
tazgodxwow, i just can't take not being able to burn this thing.....05:16
* holycow gets some white out and starts removing a few paragraphs 'creatively'05:16
Dr_willisverbose mode can be enabled in the /boot/grub/menu.lst05:16
holycowbe careful where you open YOUR book is my motto05:16
holycow-_-05:16
Dr_willisin menu.lst05:17
Dr_willis# defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb05:17
Dr_williscan become other ways like --->  # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb verbose05:17
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: what does that enable05:17
Dr_williswhatever verbose does.. :) Im not sure that verbose is even a proper option.05:17
Jay-Oh-Enverbose?05:17
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Jay-Oh-Enoh05:17
Jay-Oh-Enok05:17
Dr_willisya can try noquiet also.05:17
Jay-Oh-Enwell idk either and i dont want grub to get screwed up05:18
Dr_willisAFTER editing the menu.lst you got to run 'sudo update-grub'05:18
Dr_willisgrub is one of those tools thats worth learning, and learning well.05:18
Dr_willislearn to backp your originals :)05:18
Jay-Oh-Encp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.backup05:19
maduseryes i got an emulator foe windows05:19
tehm0nk!dualhead05:19
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama05:19
Dr_williswith a sudo Jay-Oh-En  :)05:19
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: but thats right? i feel smart and i know with a sudo05:19
maduserIs quemu a good program?05:19
Dr_willisqemu is a useable emulator.. deopends on what you are going to do with it. :)05:20
tehm0nkQuestion for the Gamers: Can kubuntu emulate games that are installed in actual windows?05:20
Dr_willisqemu, vmware, virtualbox,  all have pros/cons05:20
ardchoilleDoes qemu also depend on the quality of your hardware to be higher than normal?05:20
Dr_willistehm0nk,  with wine, you 'can' run programs that are installed on the windows hard drives.. but i found this can cause problems. Its normally best to reinstall the games with wine on the linux system.05:21
Jay-Oh-Enugh i wish i knew how to do this :[05:21
tehm0nkDr_willis: thank you, i was wondering how that would work, so wow is gonna take up twice as much space...05:21
Dr_willisqemu i would consider one of the roughest emulators out. compared to vmware/virtualbox.05:22
Dr_willistehm0nk,  Or ya install it with wine, then link the installed game dir to the windows one.05:22
Jay-Oh-Entehm0nk: delete it on windows05:22
Dr_willisbut I dont mess with WoW any more.05:22
Dr_willisgotta lvoe games that take up 10+GB.. :)05:22
holycowand you still can't get past level 205:23
tehm0nkwait what?05:23
holycow-_-05:23
tehm0nki install to windows partition from wine? lol05:23
holycowits just a folder in .wine or whatever05:23
holycowits makes the emulated libraries think they are actually looking at partitions they expect05:24
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: would you know how to do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg05:24
tehm0nklol i'm pathetic i'm working on my 3rd 70....05:24
tehm0nkanyways i had just wondered on that05:24
tehm0nkanyone Really good with dual monitors?05:25
tehm0nki think i'm set on the dual booting part of this...05:25
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Looks like the irssi irc client running in konsole while konsole is set to a transparent background, not hard at all05:25
tehm0nki'm installing hopefully for the last time05:25
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: no its kubuntu starting up05:25
tehm0nkbut who knows how i'm gonna get my second monitor to work without killing it agian...05:25
Dr_willisheh05:25
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: I take that back, that looks lke rkhunter running i a transp konsole05:25
tehm0nki need to find someone that has 2 nvidia videocards, and 2 monitors and stick myself to them like glue lol05:26
tehm0nkand figure out how they did it...05:26
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  you may want to check the ubuntu wikis for the bootsplash/framebuffer docs instead of hopeing someone will join who can walk ya through it.05:26
ZombieKubuntu locks up if it cannot find my Domain Controller.05:26
holycowtehm0nk: i have a dual monitor setup.  do you need an xorg.conf example for an nvidia card setup?05:26
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Ah, ok. I don't know how to do that, I dislike eye candy for the grub screen, kind of a waste when I only see the grub screen once every two months05:26
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: ok :[05:27
* Jay-Oh-En hopes somebody knows how to do this05:27
Dr_willisThats the console framebuffer i belive. Not the Grub menu background.. I think. :) in that image05:27
holycowJay-Oh-En: do what?05:27
tehm0nkholycow: YES05:28
tehm0nkand if i could spit out my pci info it would be even better lol05:28
tehm0nkif they could just get one together for me...05:28
tehm0nkcause i'm a boon.05:28
Jay-Oh-Enholycow: change my startup to look like this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg05:28
Dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer05:28
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: your the greatest man!05:29
holycowtehm0nk: http://pastebin.ca/index.php05:29
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  all i did was take 10 sec to google..05:29
tazgodxJay-Oh-En: You need to compile youre kernel with fbsplash or bootsplash support and replace Usplash. There is a nice HowTo on ubuntuforums.org. just search for "fbsplash" and there should be a few threads on how to do it. Cant give you a direct link because im having trouble accessing the forum...my internet connection is Slow.05:29
tazgodxthats from the site05:29
Dr_willisthat page shows how to set the higher res.. Not the image.05:29
tehm0nkholycow, i'm on the live cd right now05:30
tehm0nkand UGH i was doing good05:30
tehm0nknow grub is giving me problems again05:30
holycowJay-Oh-En: it's not terribly hard bu tyou haveto know a whole bunch of things.  i don't have instructions on how to set this up05:30
Dr_willis!fbsplash05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fbsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:30
holycowtehm0nk: well, backup your xorg, paste mine in there, from command line do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart, that should work i think05:31
holycowunless you can't change files in the ram disk, i've never tried05:31
tehm0nkactually everything is mounted05:31
tehm0nkbut...05:31
tehm0nki'm screwed again because grub wont install... i dont know what happened i didn't change the partitions, i just installed on them before, i formatted them again in the install process, but it wont go.05:32
holycowtehm0nk: what?05:32
holycowyou asked for instructions on setting up a dual screen05:33
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis / holycow / tazgodx http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17843905:33
holycowwhat does THAT have to do with installing ubuntu?05:33
tehm0nki can't boot kubuntu unless grub is installed and working right.05:34
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  i aint about to even try that silly splash thing.. :) its a huge hassle and it can break/cause other probglems for very little gain05:34
tehm0nki was asking about that because i've been trying to get that working for 2 days almost now05:34
tehm0nkand i had been okay on installing it up until just now05:34
holycowtehm0nk: if your ubuntu is not booting you have bigger problems than dual monitor setup05:34
tehm0nki've reinstalled it twice now...05:34
maduserMy compter is 3 years old will that pose problems for running kubuntu?05:35
tehm0nkat least twice05:35
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: me either god such a simple looking thing takes so much effort to do05:35
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: no05:35
tehm0nkholycow: the ENTIRE reason i've had to reinstall so many times is because of the Nvidia drivers05:35
tehm0nki'm on 2 8600 GTs05:35
holycowwhat?05:36
holycowlol05:36
tehm0nkwhich need the nvidia-glx-new drivers...05:36
holycowno you didn't05:36
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  theres a reason such a setup was NOT included by default.05:36
maduserati also causes problems05:36
Jay-Oh-EnDr_willis: why?05:36
holycowwell i'll take your word for it, why are you reinstalling?05:36
tehm0nkeither way the drivers get screwed up if i try to change the settings05:36
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  the framebuffer can cause all sorts of little issues. and it can slow down your booting.05:36
tehm0nkthen it wont boot anymore05:36
holycowyou can just go into a terminal and change the nvidia to nv05:36
Dr_willisJay-Oh-En,  in some cases it can really conflict with some of the X drivers, depending on the cards/mb/chipsets05:36
tehm0nkand i was installing cause i couldn't figure out how to fix the drivers again05:37
holycowoh your stystem stops booting after installing nvidia-glx?05:37
maduserI might change distros05:37
maduseragain moan05:37
Dr_willislife causes problems...05:38
holycow3 year old computer?05:38
Dr_willis:)05:38
tehm0nkif i were to install nvidia-glx Yes.05:38
holycowi have debian running on 10 year old systems.  i don't understand the question05:38
holycowwhat problem are you tryin gto solve?05:38
holycowtehm0nk: so describe your problem to me?05:38
tehm0nkif i use nvidia-glx-new the drivers work and compiz works05:38
holycowyou install the distro, install nvidia-glx and then the system becomes unbootable?05:38
tehm0nklol holycow that happened the first time i got it to install correctly.05:39
tehm0nkand was able to boot to it05:39
holycowcan you try and put your problem into words?05:40
holycowi do this for free05:40
tehm0nksecond time i used the nvidia-glx-new drivers, and then tried to enable the second monitor in the system settings, and that killed my xserver upon trying to reboot (probably because of the menu.lst)05:40
holycowasking me to GUESS what the problem is really makes me not want to help05:40
holycowokay why did you reinstall then?05:41
* tehm0nk blinks05:41
holycowall you haveto do is backup your xorg.conf file05:41
holycowif you screw it up, you just copy your xorg.conf file back and restart kdm05:41
holycowwhats the problem?05:41
tehm0nkok i'll do that next time05:41
tehm0nkor i'll have you walk me through it if you're still here.05:42
tehm0nkRight now i'm trying to get grub setup right again.05:42
Dr_willisI dont see how the menu.lst can affect the X drivers..05:42
holycowwell how about this05:42
Dr_willisor visa-versa :)05:42
holycowyou clearly don'[t know enough about linux to actually fix it05:42
holycowyou didn't even know you could manually just restart x05:42
holycowso05:42
tehm0nknever said i did...05:42
holycowlet me make a suggestion or two05:43
holycow1. start with a clean install05:43
holycowforget fixing grub until you know more05:43
tehm0nki JUST installed "clean"05:43
holycow2. install nvidia glx new drivers05:43
tehm0nkand i'm trying to setup Grub because i'm on a SATA Raid0 setup05:43
holycow3. use my xorg to configure dual monitor05:43
holycowlog out and log back in05:43
tehm0nkif i dont get grub on there is no point in messing with nvidia drivers now right?05:44
holycowtehm0nk: may i suggest not trying to setup sata without enough knowledge to do it properly?05:44
pacmanwhat do I need to change a .daa to a .iso?05:44
tehm0nkholycow: i've NEVER had an issue in windows.05:44
holycowyour problem right now isn't your computer, its you05:44
tehm0nk:-P05:44
holycowyou are trying to solve multiple problems simultaneously05:44
holycowhow about you solve one problem at a time, get that down pat05:45
holycowthen fix the others05:45
Dr_willisim still not clear on how grub broke.05:45
tehm0nki thought i was going to get grub on flawlessly like the last two installs...05:45
tehm0nkDr_willis: Thank you.05:45
holycowso you setup raid properly before?05:45
holycowif so you screwed something up05:45
tehm0nkif i'd stop getting burned for a second i'd Explain.05:45
holycowreinstall until you get the installer answers right05:45
tehm0nkit installed fine.05:45
tehm0nkuntil grub.05:45
holycowyour not getting burned, just relax05:45
Dr_willisfor a raid setup dosent the /boot need to be on a non raid  partition?05:46
tehm0nkno?05:46
holycownot at all05:46
tehm0nkit worked the last two time05:46
tehm0nkhere is my partition order...05:46
holycowbut you do want to install grub to the boot sector05:46
holycownot to /boot05:46
holycowif you install to /boot you may have custom configuration things to go through05:47
tehm0nk1. vista swap part 2. linux /boot 3. vista 4. linux swap 5 "/" 6 /home05:47
maduserlets see I just download mandriva and now debian....05:47
maduserwhat are other good distros?05:48
holycowwrong channel to ask05:48
holycowtry them all05:49
holycowyou seem to be complaining but not really expressing what the problem is05:49
maduserMe?05:49
holycowwhy switching to begin with?05:49
holycowyep05:49
holycowjust curious05:49
maduserI think i didn't test kubuntu enough before i installed it05:50
holycowah you can't get it working?05:50
tehm0nkWOAH there is the reason i'm having issues with grub05:50
holycowwhats the problem?05:50
Jay-Oh-Enholycow: i have a sata hdd and everything went smooth for me05:50
holycowwhy don't you try installing ubuntu?05:50
tehm0nksomething completely jacked up my raid setup :-x05:50
maduserI don't like gnome05:50
holycowso install xfce05:50
maduserme want kde05:50
holycowor whatever you want05:50
madusermight05:50
holycowokay so whats the problem?05:51
maduserEverything05:51
holycowthat means nothing05:51
jalberthey can anybody tell me how I can globally change the folders view settings?05:51
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: if you dont like kubuntu tho only other one i could say use is slackware or pcoslinux05:51
holycowthis isn't your psychologists chair05:51
maduser?05:51
holycowwhats wrong with kde on ubuntu?05:51
tehm0nkholycow: i just got this error: "ERROR: finding sysfs mount point" when i ran dmraid -r05:51
holycowit's not a challenge, just curious05:51
Jay-Oh-Enholycow: i love it05:51
jalberthey can anybody tell me how I can globally change the folders view settings?05:52
tehm0nkany ideas on that?05:52
holycowin konqueror save the profile for the file view05:52
jalbertmmmm... ok05:52
holycowtehm0nk: no, i'm sticking with reinstall.  i don't feel like debugging poorly configured raid right now05:52
tehm0nkwow.05:53
tehm0nkok05:53
holycowmaduser: so i'm waiting, what kde problems are you running into?05:53
maduserwell most programs i try to use fail05:53
maduserlike frets on fire05:53
holycowwhat does that even mean?05:53
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maduserIt means i am using an operating system that is too powerful for my hardware05:54
holycowwhat are your hardware specs?05:54
maduserati radon05:54
maduser256 ram05:54
maduser40 gig05:55
holycowokay05:55
holycowthat is more than enough for basics05:55
holycowwhat can't you run?05:55
maduserwell i want to run compiz and i can its just no great05:55
jalbertthanks, holycow.05:55
maduseri don't want to reinstall any more05:56
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: its not kde its your HARDWARE05:56
maduseryeah05:56
Jay-Oh-Entry pcoslinux05:56
Jay-Oh-Enor slackware05:56
Jay-Oh-Enthey are both really good ones05:56
holycowmaduser: i want to help but you really are pushing th elimits here05:56
maduserdownloading them now05:56
holycowwhy don't you actually try explaining what you can't run?05:57
flaccidwhy?05:57
flaccidits not going to change anything. i have an ati radeon using compiz fusion..05:57
holycowif you think moving to another distro will fix this, you clearly don't know enough about trying to solve the problem05:57
flaccidanother distro is not going to improve linux support05:57
holycowor stop those that do support for free from not giving you a hard time FOR NOT actually answering questions05:58
maduserNo but I have a crappy computer05:58
holycowno you don't05:58
holycowyour computer is fine05:58
flaccidwhats the actual problem sorry05:58
holycowi've been asking for 20 minutes now05:58
maduserwell programs that used to work in wine  in 7.04 don't work now05:59
holycowah there we go05:59
holycowproblems running wine05:59
holycowlol05:59
holycowand you are changing distros for that?05:59
maduserthen i was playing postal 2 in 7.04 and now it doe snot work05:59
Jay-Oh-Enwine runs best on kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu05:59
maduserthen i was playing postal 2 in 7.04 and now it doe not work05:59
holycowthats a problem with the version of wine05:59
holycownot the distro05:59
flaccidcan i please ask what the specific problem is. i can't work it out from above05:59
maduserno i have the linux version of postal 206:00
Jay-Oh-Enholycow: have you ever tried linspire?06:00
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holycowno, why would i do something that stupid?06:00
holycow:)06:00
flaccidyou can install any wine on any linux... so changing distros will do nothing06:00
maduserI might06:00
Jay-Oh-Enlol holycowits not stupid i was just asking06:00
holycowif you have the linux version of postal, why does wine haveto do with it?06:00
maduserthen i have to keep on reinstalling06:00
maduserits getting very anoying06:00
flaccidif you have a wine problem, goto #wine, check the wine db or goto google06:01
flaccidthis is kubuntu support channel06:01
holycowyou mean like reading your posts here and you not actually answering any questions?06:01
maduseryeah06:01
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: you never have to reinstall linux06:01
holycownow that we agree, follow the advice of flaccid06:01
Jay-Oh-Enmaduser: theres a fix for almost everything06:01
flaccidunless you fook libc heh06:01
maduserwhat?06:02
flaccidignore what i said06:02
maduserIt could just be that i06:02
maduserdo not like guesty06:02
Jay-Oh-Engutsy06:02
madusertha06:02
holycowmaduser: please go away06:03
maduserthat06:03
holycowyou are completely offtopic and no one cares06:03
holycowbother the nice folks on #wine, that is where your problem lies06:03
holycowthis isn't a general chat channel06:03
maduseryeah06:03
maduserFor some reason my sound just stops06:04
flaccid!sound | maduser06:04
ubotumaduser: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:04
flaccidcould restart artsd in that case i guess06:04
unix_infidelanyone here use eclipse on kubuntu?06:14
flaccidyeah every now and then06:14
ronnie_anyone alive in here?06:15
holycownope06:15
ronnie_hehe ok06:16
holycow:)06:16
mox69anyone here familiar with dstat ?06:17
ronnie_opinions on weather or not I should upgrade from 7.04 (feistyfawn) to 7.10 (gutsygibbon)..???06:17
flaccidwhy do you need to upgrade is the question...06:18
flaccidif you want do it for experience or no particular reason then sweet but not all upgrades are smooth so it begs the question06:18
ronnie_just wondering if it was alot better or more stable less bugs ??06:18
holycowronnie_: same06:18
holycowbut if you do upgrade, DON'T dist-upgrade06:19
unix_infidelsame amount of bugs?06:19
holycowinstall from scratch06:19
flaccidevery ubuntu release has many bugs06:19
flaccidevery ubuntu release fixes bugs and creates new ones06:19
holycowit MIGHT work but you will have better results if you do it from scratch06:19
holycowjsut backup your data06:20
unix_infidelYea last i used Ubuntu was dapper drake.06:20
flaccidholycow: thats not an upgrade. you upgrade by doing dist-upgrade. please do not give incorrect advice06:20
holycowno its correct advice06:20
holycowdist-upgrades on ubuntu are effectively broken06:20
unix_infidelIt concerns me to see something so tightly integrated has fallen apart.06:20
unix_infidelholycow: i doubt that.06:20
unix_infidelsome people absolutely rely on dist-upgrades and make them work.06:20
holycowtalk to me when you have 200 ubuntu workstations06:20
mox69how about backup your data , then try dist-upgrade06:21
mox69thats different obviously06:21
holycowuntil then i recommend following the advice of those with the experience06:21
unix_infidelholycow: that's like saying your vpenis proportionately correlated to.....06:21
mox69this isnt the kubuntu office workstation channel06:21
ronnie_ya first time i tried it (7.10) I just put the fingerprint splash screen to start & it crashed! booted me back to the log in screen! so guess its not too stable haha!!06:21
holycowunix_infidel: clearly you are dumbass, welcome to my ignore list06:21
holycowronnie_: no reason you can't try a dist upgrade, just be aware its quite risky06:22
mox69holycow: what would trying a dist-upgrade hurt? if it doesnt work then wipe and reinstall06:22
unix_infidelheh that being said there's no way to verify the existence of said workstations or competency in managing them.06:22
* unix_infidel agrees with mox69 06:22
holycowmox69: or you can do what experienced people do06:22
holycownost waste your time and just wipe and install06:22
sigma_does anyone here know how to configure the opensource ati tv out?06:23
mox69holycow: how long does an attempted dist-upgrade take vs. how much time it could save... 10 minutes for 2 hours?06:23
holycownow if you have the time and like playing no problem06:23
motguys06:23
moti have a very serious question.06:23
holycowmox69: try it06:23
moton a scale from 1 to 1006:23
holycowif your time isn't worth anything thats okay06:23
mothow old do you think michael jackson's boyfriend is?06:23
mox69holycow: i have done it already, but obviously im an unexperienced linux novice.06:23
holycowmox69: you're simply arguing the wrong point, thats okay06:24
ronnie_im not a computer geek so no good at fixing bugs, I either uninstall the program or delete it, when i find any probablem, : )06:24
mox69holycow: well im dont arguing, but just because YOU have had problems using dist upgrade on 200 workstations, doesn't mean EVERYONE will have the same problem.06:24
holycowronnie_: well like it has been suggested, try a dist upgrade if you have the time, i'm only giving you a heads up for possible issue.  if it works great06:25
holycowmox69: please be quiet06:25
holycowif you can't even understand the context of the answer i think you should stop right there06:25
unix_infidelmox69: some people dont have the option of a wipe / install.06:25
unix_infidelif they need to make a broken install work they will.06:25
mox69unix_infidel: i agree with you...06:25
unix_infideland the few that will, will document it.06:26
unix_infidelI'm not saying any one way is the definte way like holycow.  I'm saying, ever since when I was using mandrake 10 there have been people fixing broken upgrades.06:27
ronnie_i have the cd, so ya can install from scratch!, only music on this one which i can easily transfer to my mp3 b4 I erase it,06:27
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ronnie_tho should I make another copy ,maybe they add fixes to the site?06:29
holycowronnie_: well if you are using it as a webserver, what most people do these days (depending to some degree on situation) is run things like vmware06:31
holycowso you run the release as a virtual machine.06:31
holycowthat way either you publish a new updated image and migrate services over, or you try an upgrade.  if it fails you can roll it back06:32
ronnie_well I usally install it & slowly find programs (bugs) & just take em out , just thought cause my cd copy was made 1 month or so ago its outdated & the site download would be a better stable copy?06:35
holycowohhh hehe :)06:36
holycowTHAT i completely misunderstood06:36
ronnie_hehe06:36
holycowif you have the final cd there is no need to download another.  it will download updates over the net06:37
ronnie_ya guess so, I first had suse, but useing the update was odd...added tons, even cloned itself or something, & slowed down my computer to a crawl! haha, well besides it already being a low grade slow one!, : )06:39
jalbertI am trying to upgrade the distro06:46
jalbertfrom Feisty to Gutsy06:46
jalbertand I keep getting 404 errors06:47
ardchoillejalbert: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?06:48
ardchoille!pastebin | jalbert06:48
ubotujalbert: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:48
ronnie_I bought mandriva2006 my first system, & tvtime worked perfect, but in this (7.04) major! bug!, & in (7.10) program shows up but cant change default to tv (the-input), wish they'd keep the older programs if they work DON'T FIX IT!!! (sheese)  : )06:48
holycowubuntu only supports officially something like 2000 pieces of software06:50
holycowi'm fairly positive that is something not supported06:50
ronnie_oh ok not a specific kubuntu program thats why thx now i know : )06:50
roconnorBoy, Kubuntu needs a low disk space pop-up.06:52
holycowit has one06:53
roconnorapparently lots of strange things can happen when you run out of disk space06:53
roconnorholycow: oh, is it new?06:53
roconnorI'm running 7.0406:53
holycowon gutsy i think yes.  it pops up here on one of my partitions06:53
roconnorholycow: :)06:53
roconnorgreat, problem solved06:53
roconnoralthough possibly anoying in some situations ;)06:54
motdamn06:56
moti setup samba on this kubuntu box and can access shares locally06:56
motbut even though i setup users with access, i can't access from my windows box - nothing i try at the login prompt works06:56
motany suggestions?06:56
holycowmot not off the top of my head ... i have seen this question many time06:57
holycowmot i'm going to suggest to google it as it is a very common question06:57
Daisuke_Idomot: use nfs and download the SFU package for windows.06:57
holycowheh or do that06:58
Daisuke_Idobut that's an out-there answer06:58
holycowit is indeed :)06:58
Daisuke_Idohonestly, i feel it's the best solution06:58
Daisuke_Idoget rid of the in-between kludge that is samba06:58
Daisuke_Idoit's time for windows to support NFS natively06:58
Daisuke_Ido(without an additional download)06:59
holycowto be honest i've wanted a universal file sharing protocol my self06:59
holycowi always thought it would be simpler to write a plugin for windows instead of reverse engineer thier stuff back06:59
Daisuke_Idoi think NFS would be the best choice, because it's FS afnostic06:59
Daisuke_Idoagnostic06:59
holycownfs has problems too06:59
Daisuke_Idoit does, yes07:00
holycowappearently nfsv4 is supposed to be good but ... yeah why not07:00
Daisuke_Idoit tends to be a teensy bit slow for me07:00
jalbertubotu: pastebinning now07:02
ronnie_so is 7.10 just the most modern version of a linux system? or only the most popular?, wish there was a (duh!) blonde version for me muhahaha!!07:02
holycowubotu is a bot btw07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot btw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:02
jalbertardchoille: pastebinning now07:02
holycowronnie_: its the most updated COMPILATION of linux + open source software07:02
holycowbut there are other compilations (distros) of the latest stuff you can use07:03
ardchoilleronnie_: http://distrowatch.com/07:03
ronnie_k thx, : )07:03
dibyajyotihello folks07:04
holycowhi07:04
dibyajyotiare u guys working in security domain?07:04
holycowhighly unlikely anyone with those credentials would be here07:05
holycowwhats your question?07:05
jalbertardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48505/07:05
dibyajyotiyah i was asking whether u people are involved in network security doamin?07:06
holycowlol07:07
holycow:)07:07
ardchoillejalbert: Were you getting a 404 on the medibuntu repo?07:07
jalbertyes07:07
jalbertwait...07:07
jalbertlemme check07:07
ardchoillejalbert: That's because your sources line is wrong.07:07
ardchoille!medibuntu | jalbert Look here for the correct info07:07
jalbertmeh?07:07
ubotujalbert Look here for the correct info: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:07
jalbertwhat line is wrong?07:08
ardchoillejalbert: It's best to just follow the info on the medibuntu site to fix it07:09
jalbertok07:09
dibyajyotii am a newbie to IRC07:09
ardchoillejalbert: Also, did you add the medibuntu repo key? If not, you should do that too.07:09
holycowdibyajyoti: welcoime07:09
dibyajyotiu thank07:09
dibyajyoti:)07:09
jalberttrying again07:13
jalbert...07:13
brad__hey...so I'm having trouble with Flash on 64bit Kubuntu07:14
brad__it was working for months and then stopped..I tried to uninstall and reinstall...on Konq which I generally use it doesnt freeze the browser but wont show the image07:15
brad__and on youtube plays audio but no video07:15
jalberthmmm...07:15
brad__and on firefox it either works or it crashed the browser07:15
holycowbrad__: you had it working?07:15
brad__for months07:15
jalbertstill getting the error07:15
brad__and it stopped inexplicably today07:15
holycowthere is no 64 bit flash ... you must of hack in the 32 bit plug right?07:15
brad__and I've uninstalled and reinstalled the nonfree plugin from adept07:15
brad__yeah but I think it is a lot easier with gutsy07:16
brad__I dont really remember how I did it07:16
holycowbrad__: there is no 64 bit flash plugin dude07:16
holycowhow can it possible work?07:16
jalberthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48506/07:16
brad__what I do know is that I thought I was going to have to use firefox for all flash applications and it magically worked on konqueror07:16
holycowdid they automate the flash hack on 64?07:16
brad__believe me flash worked for months but you have to do an nspluginwrapper or something like that07:16
brad__and then it stopped working at random today07:16
holycowwell it's impossible, there is no 64 bit flash07:17
poeticrpm_on 64bit, use swiftweasel and the blackdown java 1.4 plugin07:17
brad__I mean I think I updated things but nothing associated with it07:17
brad__well believe me that it worked, it just needs to be installed in 32 bit architecture or something07:17
brad__tons of people use flash on their 64 bit os07:17
holycowexcept07:17
holycowthere is no 64 bit flash07:17
brad__I mean we could argue about whether people do or dont if you want, but ubuntuforums for 64 bit are full of people using flash07:17
holycowwhich means that its a hack and i would expect it will break07:18
brad__I KNOW THAT, you have to install it in forced 32 bit architecture07:18
brad__or something like that07:18
holycowi'm just impressed that it's automated07:18
brad__and it worked for a really long time07:18
brad__then stopped07:18
brad__well everyone on 64bit uses flash07:18
jalbertardchoille:still  getting the 404 despite following the instructions to fix the sources list07:18
brad__and the fact that it still plays sound on youtube but doesnt show a video07:18
brad__means its somewhat working07:18
jalbertardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48506/07:19
arrrghhhso is it true?  kde4 final in 25 days?07:19
jalbertI added the Medibuntu repositories to the sources file, using the method in those instructions07:20
holycowjalbert: what problem are you trying to solve? your the one with 404 errors?07:20
holycowbrad__: aha neato07:21
jalbertyeah07:21
holycowbrad__: unfortunately i don't know anything about that, i don't run 64 bit07:21
jalbertI want to do the upgrade to Gutsy07:21
holycowsorry dude07:21
arrrghhhjalbert: all you want to do is the gutsy upgrade?  sudo update-manager -c07:22
holycowwell 404 just means you can't reach the servers in your repos07:22
jalbertI keep getting 404 errors07:22
arrrghhhoh07:22
arrrghhhchange your repos07:22
holycowjalbert: check out what repo is generating it and comment it out.07:22
holycowand yeah then change repos07:23
arrrghhhi found a site that suggested i let it ping all the servers and 'use the best one' - yea well the best one at that second doesn't mean it's the best one in the long run.  i'd just select the repo for your country.07:23
krautmoin07:25
jalbertI need to get some sleep07:25
jalbertI'm seeing monospaced fonts every time I close my eyes07:26
holycowheh07:26
jalbertI'll seal with this tomorrow.07:26
jalbert*deal*07:27
jalbertthanks for the help07:27
holycowit takes a while,  but once you get over the first bit its super easy07:27
jalbertnight all07:29
ardchoillejalbert: You still did something wrong07:32
ardchoillejalbert: Your package manager is trying to fetch from "medibuntu.sos-sts.com" when it should be trying to fetch from "packages.medibuntu.org"07:33
ardchoillejalbert: See this section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f07:34
holycowor just take the line out07:34
holycowand update and dist-upgrade07:34
ardchoilleWell, he wants medibuntu I assume07:34
holycowgood point07:35
ardchoilleholycow: But yeah, that would get rid of the errors07:35
mabrothraxhi !07:55
mabrothraxis somebody can say if i can install kubuntu on an old imac G3 ?07:55
mabrothraxis there somebody awake ?07:56
nevilleGet the PPC version of Kubuntu07:57
bazhangmabrothrax: which version? gutsy?07:57
bazhang!ppc | mabrothrax07:57
ubotumabrothrax: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ07:57
cvg54hola buenas07:58
bazhang!es | cvg5407:58
ubotucvg54: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.07:58
cvg54alguno sabe como instalar kde4 rc2 SIN FALLOS? me da error cuando hay que poner aquello de cp07:59
mabrothraxubotu: i read your link, v7.10 is latest no? isn't it too "heavy" for a G308:00
bazhangcvg54: this is an english channel; you should click on the link #kubuntu-es08:00
cvg54ok08:00
bazhangmabrothrax: perhaps; though he is a bot :}08:00
mabrothraxok ! first stupid question ! ;)08:01
bazhanghaha08:01
ardchoillelol08:01
Daisuke_Idothere are no stupid questions08:01
bazhangmabrothrax: you might want to try xubuntu on that08:02
Daisuke_Idoinane, retarded, and pointless, yes.  but not stupid :)08:02
jussi__!gutsy | mabrothrax08:02
ubotumabrothrax: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents08:02
Daisuke_Ido(that was referring to questions in general, not yours specifically)08:02
mabrothraxat this link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/        i can see dapper / feity / gusty / 6.06 / 7.04 / 7.10          is it the same ?08:03
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jussi01mabrothrax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/gutsy/release/08:04
mabrothraxgusty's the last one, is there a ppc version on kbuntu 5 (2005) ?08:06
jussi01mabrothrax: why would you ask?08:07
jussi01mabrothrax: this isnt windows, it is better to run the latest one even on old hw...08:07
mabrothraxcause i'm affraid it can't work properly on a G3 with v 6 or 7...08:08
jussi01mabrothrax: but as pointed out earlier - try xubuntu as it is much lighter.08:08
earl_so i'm trying KDE408:08
earl_but i can't get it to start from KDM08:08
earl_when i log into a KDE4 session i just get booted right back to the login screen. no error message.08:09
earl_just a black screen for a split second, and then the login screen. what gives?08:09
kapubatenhi. i just install kubuntu 6.01 in my computer. how can i get extra package08:09
bazhangbetter to try the livecd at this point earl_08:09
earl_is it possible to install from the livecd?08:09
bazhangearl_: install kubuntu? yes08:10
earl_how do you do it? i have the livecd but I couldn't find a way to install from it08:10
bazhangearl_: oh the kde4 live cd? no idea then08:10
mabrothraxok , i gonna try it... thank you all ! powerpc ? linux - powa !     bye !08:10
earl_right that's the problem08:11
earl_id like to try KDE4 withotu the cd08:11
earl_is there at least something i could look at to find the error08:12
earl_because i have no clues right now08:12
bazhanglots of problems with kde4 afaik right now earl_08:12
earl_last time i came in here and asked about it i was told it was actually pretty stable08:12
holycowthe topic has installation instructions if you have kubuntu/ubuntu already installed somewhere08:12
holycowno guarantee it will work08:12
earl_holycow: those are the instrucitons i used; i didnt do the last part though. i was told it wasn't necessary.08:13
earl_with xephyr and all that.08:13
holycownot necessary no08:13
holycowso when you logout, you don't have an option to select the kde4 session?08:13
earl_no i do08:14
holycowk. then?08:14
earl_i pick KDE4 then log in, and the screen just flashes black and i get the login screen08:14
earl_it doesnt even like lock up08:14
earl_it does this int he course of about 3 seconds08:14
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holycowyeah its not working on your box08:14
earl_as in, ever?08:14
holycowwell for right now08:14
earl_is there any particular reason?08:15
earl_the live cd works..08:15
holycowwell there is always a particular reason with computers08:15
holycowcomputers don't do random things08:15
holycowther eis something about your setup that makes it do that08:15
earl_right08:15
holycowhard to know what08:15
earl_well i was going to do a clean install of linux soon anyway08:16
earl_because i made a bit of a mess of things messing around with different programs for the sake of eye-candy08:16
earl_do you think it'd be more likely to work on a clean install?08:16
holycowthat might be part of it08:16
holycowearl_: much more likely yes08:16
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holycowchances are you configured something strange thats interfering with kde4 being able to startup08:17
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earl_then i'll give that a shot.08:17
earl_one more question, do you by any chance use 64bit?08:17
holycowno08:18
earl_hm08:18
earl_alright08:18
earl_thanks08:18
nevilleLol, 50% of vmware workstation done since yesterday afternoon =]08:23
holycowtime to get off dialup?08:24
Greeny_(holycow) time to get off dialup?08:26
Greeny_WOW08:26
Greeny_I didn't know they still did dialup :p08:26
holycowit was a joke, but a lot of places have only dialup actually08:26
holycowa goo dnumber of our offices are in remote locations, dialup only08:27
Greeny_:o08:27
nevilleI do use dialup -_-v08:30
llutzit's ok if they don't have to transfer big data-masses08:31
tazgodxanyone know how to send a file over SSH to another computer in terminal?08:31
neville208Mb isn't that bad08:31
holycowtazgodx: man scp or google some examples of commands08:31
llutztazgodx: scp/sftp08:32
sub[t]rnlrsync too08:32
tazgodxthanks08:32
mabrothraxre !08:37
mabrothraxi found some informations about imac G3... i'll give you08:37
mabrothraxKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines.08:38
mabrothraxYou will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD.08:38
mabrothraxand "hopp!"08:38
mabrothraxsee ya !08:38
ardchoilleIs there a search facility in Kubuntu that will search my files, kaddressbook items, kmail emails, etc all from one app? Strigi just doesn't seem to suit me.08:41
noaXesshi all08:45
noaXesshow can i repair my whole kde installation.. its a fresh intall..08:45
noaXessi can login, but see only my background image and nothing more... nothing happens08:48
waltercool_eeesomeone have used a laptop with a VGA monitor?08:48
llutznoaXess: press ctrl-alt-f1, log in as user, type "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old" , press ctrl-alt-f7 again and try to log in.08:49
ardchoillenoaXess: Do you get anything with alt+f2?08:50
noaXessok.. it work now.... some image that i have mounted was blocking kde.. why i don't know..08:50
llutznoaXess: but maybe it's a good idea to check /var/log/kdm.log before08:50
noaXessardchoille: have tried it but now.. but now it worl08:50
noaXesswork08:50
llutzah ok08:50
ardchoilleok08:50
noaXessjust back on my kubuntu :)09:07
poeticrpm_is there any devs in here?09:07
poeticrpm_noaXess: hows it running?09:08
ActionParsniphey all09:09
* ActionParsnip waves09:09
Lynourepoeticrpm_: usually there are some, but there is #kubuntu-devs one can join to talk to more of them, I think09:09
sub[t]rnlheya ActionParsnip09:10
ActionParsnipsub[t]rnl, you ok?09:10
sub[t]rnlalways09:10
poeticrpm_well, for what its worth, I just wanted to tell the Kubuntu community, awesome job! 7.10 has been a very good release09:11
ActionParsnippoeticrpm_, yeah man its pretty sweet09:11
poeticrpm_I had 7.04, and I had a lot of issues- it seems the issues have been ironed out with 7.1009:12
poeticrpm_want a VERY weird problem?09:12
ActionParsnippoeticrpm_, not had an issue with either but ALL my hardware is Linux friendly :D09:12
poeticrpm_so is mine!09:12
ActionParsnippoeticrpm_, www.efficientpc.co.uk09:13
poeticrpm_nvidia, intel, atheros- thats pretty good09:13
ActionParsnippoeticrpm_, whats the weird problem?09:13
LynoureI remember feeling the other way around... my linux-friendly hardware stopped being friends at 7.10 when it comes to suspend09:13
Lynoureoh well, cannot have everything.09:13
poeticrpm_hehe.. I dont have it know, I had it on 7.0409:13
ActionParsnipLynoure, just leave your pc on and turn off monitor :D09:13
LynoureActionParsnip: it's a laptop... hibernate and suspend come very handy on those09:14
poeticrpm_amarok and kaffeine would crash, and thumbnails wouldnt load, but only if I didnt have an internet connection09:14
ActionParsnipLynoure, how long does it take to cold boot?09:14
poeticrpm_as soon as I had a connection, theyd work flawlessly09:14
LynoureActionParsnip: Never timed it, but it looses state on web pages and tries to reload them09:14
llutzLynoure: same problem here with several notebooks, suspend/resume still seems to be lottery with linux-systems :(09:15
Lynourellutz: I want a new ticket =)09:15
ActionParsnipLynoure, couldnt you reconfig you browser  somehow. Personally I've never used suspend. I just shutdown09:15
ActionParsnippoeticrpm_, let me google09:16
LynoureActionParsnip: If you know how on konqueror and ff, I'll gladly give it a try.09:16
fgeysermorning all09:16
poeticrpm_actionparsnip.. dont worry about it09:16
LynoureActionParsnip: I don't even know how to make konsole show the earlier going-ons over boot09:17
Lynoureit does not seem to get saved with session09:17
ActionParsnipLynoure, history is a good command09:17
poeticrpm_it was on 7.04, im on 7.10 now- I searched for days and tried everything- its the only problem to date I couldnt fix09:17
ActionParsnipLynoure, or just press your up cursor09:17
LynoureActionParsnip: yes, but it does not show the results of commands, just the commands09:18
Lynoureand usually it's both I'd want to see, to get a sense of what I was doing.09:18
ActionParsnipLynoure, how does suspend give you the results of the command Do you mean the shell window scrolling so you can see all the outputs?09:18
ActionParsnipLynoure, just curious an all :D09:19
LynoureActionParsnip: both suspend and hibernate save the current state of everything, yes. Was that what you meant? I'm too ill to troubleshoot the suspend process today, sorry.09:20
ActionParsnipLynoure, yeah. just curious what you meant. I just shook off a cough from hell too man. no worries09:20
LynoureI had scheduled to do a full attack on it, this time with a friend, on Friday, but that got postponed till I have my brainz back.09:21
bazhanggarlic crushed finely in soup will fix you right up--sorry about the offtopic09:21
Lynourebazhang: probably not.09:21
Lynourebazhang: but thanks :)09:22
bazhangLynoure: you are too valuable to lose to the flu :}09:22
LynoureVery kind of you.09:23
bazhangjust the truth09:23
ActionParsnipLynoure, hot lemonade with honey compiled into your kernel ;)09:24
LynoureActionParsnip: anyway, the suspend seems to suspend, just not recover. Similar symptom on hibernate, if I remember right.09:25
sigma_kubuntui get that too!09:26
ActionParsnipSeems to be a big issue. Maybe they should really push for suspend to be better09:27
sigma_kubuntui agree. wonder if it works for anyone09:28
llutzActionParsnip: they try, problem are all those crippled Bios and closed-source drivers09:28
sigma_kubuntuat least it half works :)09:28
sigma_kubuntuthing is the pc comes out of suspend but not the monitor? mine works bt if its suspended 4more than say 5 mins it wont come out - which dont help much09:30
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tony__hello09:32
bazhanghi tony__09:32
sigma_kubuntuhi tony got a question?09:32
tony__no   no question just new to this09:33
sigma_kubuntuto linux u mean?09:34
tony__not to linux just konversation   and irc09:36
bazhanghere be dragons09:37
ActionParsniptony__, use tab to autocomplete names :D09:37
tony__cool09:38
tony__??  can I use this program to get into yahoo chat09:39
bazhangif you find a way to do so, let us all know :}09:39
bazhangpidgin can though do both iirc09:41
bazhangkopete as well I believe09:43
ActionParsniphas anyone seen Ubuntu installed on a Nokia N81009:53
bazhangsomeone did it on a N95 iirc09:53
kristjan_kde4 ftw!09:53
ActionParsnipbazhang, haha ace :D09:54
white_eaglekde 4, when?09:55
bazhangtotally useless, but cool nonetheless09:55
kristjan_bazhang: I got addicted to it, too late turn back :-)09:56
bazhangkristjan_: I meant the N95 install not kde4 silly :}09:56
kristjan_haha09:57
ActionParsnipKde4 = January 11th 2008 :D09:59
ardchoilleI'm looking for a search solution for kubuntu. Looked at beagle in the repos. It pulls in lots of gnome, gtk and mono dependencies. Isn't there a kde/qt app that does the same thing without having to pull in a lot of gnome/gtk/mono deps?10:04
kristjan_ardchoille: strigi10:05
kristjan_ardchoille: but with less features10:05
ardchoillekristjan_: I was about to say that.. and I don't like the web interface strigi has10:05
kristjan_ardchoille: beagle has kde interface "kerry" not sure about dep. though10:06
opdensteinenhi10:06
ardchoilleYes, kerry looks nice, but beagle pulls in too many gnome/gtk/mono deps10:06
opdensteinenname hi10:06
jussi01!hi | opdensteinen10:06
ubotuopdensteinen: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:06
opdensteinenhi thx10:07
opdensteinenits great10:07
opdensteinen^10:07
kristjan_ardchoille: I myself like "locate:/" ;-)10:07
opdensteinendoes anyone know how to change my nick10:07
opdensteinen???10:07
ActionParsnipwhat about kat10:07
jussi01opdensteinen: /nick newnickhere10:07
llutzopdensteinen: /nick newnick10:07
ActionParsnipardchoille, tried kat?10:07
ActionParsnip!kat | ardchoille10:07
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ubotuardchoille: Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)10:07
Gogoacquanthx a lot10:08
jussi01!register | Gogoacquan10:08
ubotuGogoacquan: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration10:08
ardchoilleOh, there's a kio slave for beagle? This just got more interesting10:08
ActionParsnipardchoille, google is your friend ;)10:08
ardchoille:)10:09
ActionParsnipor www.ask.com too (website previews are sweeeet)10:09
Jay-Oh-Enis there a howto to install frets on fire or can anybody help me here10:13
Gogoacquandoes anyone know a programm for watching tv???^^10:13
ActionParsnip!mythtv " Gogoacquan10:13
finek!mythtv10:14
ActionParsnip!mythtv | Gogoacquan10:14
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV10:14
ubotuGogoacquan: please see above10:14
Gogoacquanthx10:14
ActionParsnipGogoacquan, np man10:15
ardchoilleWell, strigidaemon crashes when I search for anything or start the daemon10:25
jussi01Is anyone familiar with scribus? how do I make borders around an item?10:28
wwbwwbcn10:29
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jussi01wwbwwb: can we help?10:31
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girolamo!italiano10:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:35
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werner__Hi! Anybody working with evolution and Bogofilter under KDE?10:46
wwbwwbkubuntu cn10:47
ardchoillewwbwwb: Can we help you with something?10:48
jussi01!cn | wwbwwb10:48
ubotuwwbwwb: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:48
ardchoilleAh, thanks jussi0110:48
werner__I installe Evolution, bogofilter is installed. EVO doesn't show the bogofilter option in JUNK10:48
werner__Last time I insted EVO it was no prob10:50
werner__any ideas?10:50
se7enok how do i get kde4 to work... what do i have to download10:52
Lynourese7en: this page has instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php10:54
se7enthanks Lynoure10:54
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finekis anyone has flash which works?11:06
SBucatone??11:07
SBucatoneflash to view youtubben ?11:07
SBucatoneof course yes11:07
finekfor example11:07
finekhow to install it11:07
SBucatone!flash11:07
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash11:07
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finekok thx11:09
finek!java11:12
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:12
keddeI have a problem with my wireless it's really slow I tried to add "alias ipv6 off" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist when I use a cable it runs ok. I'm sitting at my school the have a really good connection normally I have a speed on over 300kb/s but now the speed is max. 50 kb/s11:15
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ninjagambit_your not going to get it to work if your using kubuntu 64bit11:18
ninjagambit_but i was just thinking maby if i use wine and run windows version of firefox11:20
ninjagambit_maby then flash will work11:20
finekhttp://wklej.org/id/10e0e735b811:20
Sbucathello problem with kommander how can i create an installer for my gui ?11:20
keddeI'm using kubuntu 32 bit11:20
onishidatohey guys, i have 2 HD, one for Linux, and one for WinXP, when i try to use my WinXP HD from Kubuntu, they say that: "half-storage-fixed mount refused uid 1000" so i don't know what's wrong? what can i do now?11:20
finekwhat means this error11:20
ninjagambit_if your using 32 bit hit alt space type in adept hit enter11:21
ninjagambit_then type in flash11:21
ninjagambit_in the search bar11:21
ninjagambit_install flash plugin11:21
onishidatohey guys, i have 2 HD, one for Linux, and one for WinXP, when i try to use my WinXP HD from Kubuntu, they say that: "half-storage-fixed mount refused uid 1000" so i don't know what's wrong? what can i do now?11:22
ninjagambit_beats me onishifdato11:23
ninjagambit_maby reboot and go to boot menu11:23
ninjagambit_go in win xp11:23
onishidatocause i can not use XP anymore, they have virus inside, so i just wanna take all my data to Linux, safer place:D11:24
Zombocomherro11:25
ninjagambit_i just put it all on a disk11:25
ninjagambit_then moved it11:25
ninjagambit_that way11:25
ninjagambit_well multiple dvd disk acctually11:26
onishidatodoes anyone have another way??11:26
keddehow do you mount you windows disk?11:27
ninjagambit_!mount11:27
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter11:27
ninjagambit_!fstab11:28
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions11:28
ninjagambit_!DiskMounter11:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:28
ninjagambit_!Partitions11:28
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter11:28
ninjagambit_!NTFS-3g11:28
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:28
ninjagambit_!FUSE11:29
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems11:29
finek!gnash11:29
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/11:29
ninjagambit_does that help11:29
ardchoille!botabuse11:29
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.11:29
Zombocomis there a command that loads a file off the internet?11:31
Zombocomfor the terminal?11:31
ardchoilleZombocom: You mean download a file?11:32
Zombocomyes11:32
ninjagambit_yeah11:32
ardchoilleZombocom: wget http://www.blah.com/somefile11:32
Zombocomthank you11:32
ardchoilleyw11:32
ardchoilleZombocom: wget will download the file to the directory you are currently in11:32
Zombocomthank you11:33
ninjagambit_just curious ardchoille but how do you guys get those links so fast11:33
ardchoilleninjagambit_: Which links>11:33
ardchoille?11:33
Zombocomlol11:34
ninjagambit_I just see alot of people here that can pull web links out in like a sec11:34
ninjagambit_for almost any topic11:34
Zombocomhttp://www.blah.com/somefile is not a real page11:34
ardchoilleThat was just an example of how to use wget11:34
ninjagambit_lol11:34
ninjagambit_sorry its late here11:35
Zombocomlol11:35
ninjagambit_5:30 AM11:35
Zombocomlol11:35
Zombocomit's like 3:35 am here11:36
Zombocomand I just woke up11:36
ninjagambit_lol11:36
ninjagambit_early riser11:36
sigma_kubuntuwhy does canonical not reply to emails?11:36
Zombocomlol ninjagambit_ it's an anomaly trust me11:37
ninjagambit_lol11:37
ninjagambit_wouldnt think a guy with a name like zombocom would be a early riser11:38
Zombocomninjagambit_ normally I wake up like 1011:38
Zombocom10 am11:38
Zombocomonce I woke up at 1:30 pm11:38
ninjagambit_8 to 12 if im not working11:38
ninjagambit_sometimes 1 or2 in the afternoon after nights like this11:39
Zombocomlol11:40
ninjagambit_unless my kid starts jumping on my head and shouting wake up11:42
finek!multiverse11:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:43
ninjagambit_finek: thank ubotu for his help11:44
finek;)11:44
ardchoille!botsnack11:44
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!11:44
ninjagambit_lol11:45
ninjagambit_ubotu is crazy11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is crazy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:45
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ninjagambit_its ok  we love you ubotu11:46
ninjagambit_what every you do dont he dosnt know very much11:47
ninjagambit_ever11:47
ninjagambit_!APT11:48
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:49
ninjagambit_well im going to bed now11:50
ninjagambit_its been fun11:50
ninjagambit_g'night11:50
ninjagambit_good night ubotu11:50
Zombocomwhats the command to make something an executable?11:53
ardchoilleZombocom: chmod u+x file11:56
Zombocomthank you11:56
Zombocomwait ardchoille isn't it chmod +x file?11:56
ardchoilleZombocom: You don't really want to make it executable to everyone, just the user (owner), for security reasons11:57
Zombocomah11:57
Zombocomthanks11:57
Zombocomso it's u+x11:57
Zombocomgot it11:57
ardchoilleZombocom: You can make it executable to everyone with: chmod a+x file11:57
ardchoilleBut that's not really a good idea11:58
Zombocomcan you turn a bash script into an executable?11:58
Zombocomor how do you do that11:58
ardchoillebash scripts should be executable for them to work as expected, yes11:58
Zombocomlol11:59
Zombocomthanks11:59
ActionParsnipardchoille, chmod +x <bash script>11:59
ardchoilleor, for bash scripts, you can launch it without it being executable: sh file.sh11:59
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Zombocomsrsly11:59
Zombocomaw11:59
Arilou!mount11:59
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter11:59
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Better to make it only executable for the owner11:59
Arilou!diskmounter12:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE12:00
dcorbin_workWhat is the correct (kubuntu) way to enable/disable init.d scripts for various runtime levels?12:00
jussi01ardchoille: if its a bash script shoud you not run: bash file.sh ?12:00
ActionParsnipjussi01, you can just make it executable then just tye the file name12:00
Zombocomwhen running a bash script that's in /bin/bash/12:01
ardchoillejussi01: I would think if the first line were #!/bin/bash then yes, but most of the scripts I have seen are #!/bin/sh and are better being run with sh as the shell will determine what is needed12:01
Zombocomoh wow12:01
jussi01ardchoille: yes, of course you are correct.12:01
Zombocomso you just type (if the file is in /bin/bash) bash file?12:01
ardchoilleZombocom: You can do that if you want, yes12:02
Zombocomardchoille you're acting as if it's the less effective way of doing it12:02
nevilleWhat is Zombo?12:02
nevilleI found this website called exactly that, and I have no idea what it is12:02
ActionParsnipZombocom, you put #!/bin/bash at the top of every bash script. If you make the script file executable (chmod +x <file>) it can be ran from the gui12:03
ardchoilleZombocom: bash file.sh will try to run the file with bash, if the file isn't meant to run with bash, you could get an error. when you run the file with sh file.sh, the shell ill determine what is best (sh or bash or other) and attempt to run it with that12:03
ActionParsnipneville, its a really small low power consumption desktop system based on gentoo12:03
Zombocomah ardchoille you never cease to amaze me12:04
ZombocomI just wonder if you ever sleep12:04
ardchoillesleep? what's that?12:04
ardchoille;)12:04
bazhanghaha12:04
jussi01!opsnack | ardchoille12:05
ubotuardchoille: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!12:05
ardchoilleW00T!12:05
Zombocomardchoille why aren't you an admin here12:06
ActionParsnipcat sleep > /usr/ardchoille12:06
Zombocomyou're the only person who really helps people out12:06
Zombocomall the time12:06
Zombocomthere are people that help out really well some of the time12:06
tekteenagreed12:06
Zombocombut almost every time I come in here i get helped by ardchoille12:06
jussi01hehe12:07
tekteen!helpersnack | ardchoille12:07
ubotuardchoille: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!12:07
ardchoilleIt's because I have no life, lol12:07
jussi01ardchoille: what are you on... this _is_ life...12:07
ardchoillehehe12:07
ActionParsnipis there any way to extract the SSID you are connected to wirelessly?12:08
ActionParsnipi want just the ssid. I am connected to my network but i was hoping i could use in in some scripts12:10
tekteenActionParsnip: u mean using iwconfig?12:12
ActionParsniptekteen, i just want to extract which ssid i'm connected to for use in scripts12:13
ActionParsniphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig12:13
tekteenok12:13
ActionParsniptekteen, iwconfig may be good too12:13
ActionParsnipi basically want to grep OSU_PUB out of this example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwconfig12:14
tekteenActionParsnip: iwconfig | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}12:14
tekteenActionParsnip: test that out12:15
postghello, what command to upgrade to 7.10?12:15
ardchoille!upgrade | postg12:15
ubotupostg: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:15
tekteenActionParsnip?12:16
ActionParsniptekteen, i'm not on my linux system. I'm on XP Pro at work.I'll give it a go at home dude. I appreciate it :D12:16
tekteenok12:16
postgthanks ardchoille and ubotu12:16
postgI have read that12:17
tekteenActionParsnip: u still here?12:17
ardchoillepostg: yw12:17
ActionParsniptekteen, i want my home drive to map over wan if i am not in my own wireless lan basically12:17
postgbut what the command in shell to upgrade it from 7.04->7.1012:17
tekteenok12:17
postgnot from apt-gui manager12:17
tekteenActionParsnip: I want to add to that command12:18
ArilouI was trying to activate an ATI card following the instructions on the website, but something went wrong and it got canceled, now I get a message saying I got to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' but when I do I get a message saying that operation requires a superuser privelege, how do I cancel it so I can try again?12:18
tekteeniwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}12:18
tekteenActionParsnip: iwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}12:18
postgwill this <simple> command do the upgrade? sudo apt-get upgrade12:18
tekteenActionParsnip: where wlan0=your wlan interface12:18
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:19
jussi01Arilou: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a12:19
postgthanks12:19
Ariloujussi01: thanks a lot! ^_^12:20
jussi01:)12:20
ActionParsniptekteen, cheers man i'll give it a whirl a bit later :D12:20
Zombocomif I have a custom cursor that I use in windows12:20
postg^_^12:20
Zombocomcan I transfer it over to linux?12:20
ActionParsnipZombocom, what format is the cursor?12:23
Zombocomlet me check12:23
Zombocom.cur and .ani12:24
ArilouHow do I Make sure fglrx is not disabled in the DISABLED_MODULES part: kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?12:25
jussi01Arilou: run that command from konsole and look!12:25
Ariloujussi01: oh there is a comand?12:26
jussi01Arilou: kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common12:26
Ariloujussi01: oki oki, brb12:26
jussi01:)12:26
ActionParsnipZombocom, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343748 about 70% down12:28
sigma_where are kubuntu system icons stored?12:29
Ariloujussi01: I got another window poped up, it's very weird as it seems part of a code but at least it doesn't seem to have anything disabled ( DISABLED_MODULES="" )12:29
jussi01Arilou: after you put in you password?12:29
jussi01so if there is nothing there, then fglrx is not in the disabled modules... hooray!12:30
Ariloujussi01: yup yup, after pw, I'm a bit forward on the guide now12:31
jussi01:)12:31
Sbucat!ot12:46
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:46
ActionParsnip!curlftpfs12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about curlftpfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:50
wesleyhello adept crashed again and its now read only12:50
ardchoille!adeptfix12:50
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:50
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grteydoes someone know how to connect via noki gprs to the internet13:02
jussi01grtey: there is some info on the wiki13:03
ArilouI failed on something setting the controler for my ATI card and now, no matter how many times I restart my comp, it doesn't give me a graphic interfase, all I get is the prompt. Is there anyway to fix it or I have to reinstall for 3rd time today?13:03
ardchoilleArilou: Maybe the ati video page, under the "troubleshooting" section?13:04
ardchoille!ati13:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:04
tyfonArilou: see if you have any /etc/X11/xorg.conf.# (some number).. backups are usually saved this way13:06
tyfontry to restore the oldest one and see what happens13:06
Zombocomwhen any of my friends try to install linux on their computers13:06
Zombocomjack shit happens13:06
ZombocomI mean13:06
Zombocomsorry for the swearing13:06
Zombocomit will install13:06
Ariloutyfon: omg you're my hero, let me check that13:06
Zombocombut then if you try to run it13:06
Zombocomit freezes13:06
Ariloutyfon: could you help me a bit? I'm running from CD so I don't know how to get there13:07
tyfondo you know what partition you installed to?13:07
adaranhey everyone13:07
Ariloutyfon: it's the only linux partition so I hope so13:07
adaranwhere can i find the current maintainer apt key?13:08
tyfonArilou: press the computer next to the K menu and select storage media13:08
tyfonse if anyone is the same size as your linux partition13:08
Ariloutyfon: uid 99913:09
tyfonuid 999? :p13:09
Ariloutyfon: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99913:10
tyfonoh ok13:10
tyfonopen a terminal13:10
Ariloutyfon: I'm following you13:10
tyfondo you have more then one harddrive and is it ide or sata?13:10
Ariloutyfon: 2 sata13:11
tyfonand linux is on the 2nd?13:11
Ariloutyfon: on the first13:11
tyfonah ok13:11
tyfontype sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda13:11
tyfonsee if you see any drives with Linux as the system13:12
Ariloutyfon: yes I see /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda313:13
tyfonis one swap?13:13
Ariloutyfon: sda3 is  swap but I don't know what is sda213:13
tyfonok13:13
tyfontype sudo mkdir /linux && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /linux13:13
tyfoncd /linux/etc/X11/13:14
tyfonls13:14
tyfonand you should see the files13:14
Arilouall I see with ls is Desktop (on blue color)13:14
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tyfonhmm13:15
Arilouno wait13:15
ArilouI see some files, some config.0 one13:15
tyfonxorg.conf?13:15
Arilouxorg.conf.original-013:15
tyfontry sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak13:16
tyfonsudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf13:16
tyfonand see if you get graphics when you start the system13:16
Ariloukk it renamed the xorg.conf13:16
tyfonare there noone that looks like xorg.conf.1?13:17
Arilounop, no one13:17
tyfonwell see if the original-0 works at least13:17
tyfon:)13:17
Arilouxorg.conf and a wavy symbol like - like xorg.conf- but with a wavy -13:18
tyfonoh13:18
tyfontry sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf instead then :)13:18
Arilouone second I can't make that symbol, I'll try to set my keyboard to spanish, maybe that way I can13:19
ArilouI can't make that wavy symbol =(13:20
tyfonhmm13:21
tyfonyou can copy/paste it :)13:21
Arilouin windows I just press and hold ALT + 126 and I get that wavy thingie13:21
Arilouisn't there a similar way?13:21
ardchoilleArilou: The key to the left of the "!" key?13:22
Arilouno, the ~13:22
jussi01Arilou: which keyboard layout?13:22
Arilouoh got it13:22
tyfoni'm using a norwegian keyboard and its a bit diffrent here :p13:22
Arilouif I do try sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf I will have 2 xorg.conf  right?13:23
Ariloucuz we renamed the xorg.conf.original-0 to xorg.conf13:24
tyfonno it will overwrite13:24
tyfonbut that is ok13:24
tyfon:)13:24
Ariloukk13:25
tyfonnow you can reboot the system and see if you have graphics13:25
Arilouoki oki, if this works I may learn to do it even on that nasty prompt login13:26
Arilouso if I mess the install again I will be able to retry without reinstalling all13:26
tyfonyes.. but the files will be in /etc/X11 and not /linux/etc/X11 then13:26
tyfonif it doesnt work now try the original-0 file13:26
Arilouthanks a lot tyfon, I hope to see you here real fast and I wish you best luck ever and thanks ^_^13:26
Arilouoki oki13:27
ongntwrkhellloooooo13:40
ongntwrk:)13:40
poeticrpm_helo13:40
poeticrpm_hello*13:40
ongntwrklol13:40
Ariloujussi01: it worked! ^_^13:40
ongntwrktryin to install php13:40
ongntwrkits giving me problems13:41
ongntwrkan help13:41
jussi01!lamp | ongntwrk13:41
ubotuongntwrk: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)13:41
jussi01Arilou: great!!13:41
ongntwrkthks13:41
jussi01:)13:42
ongntwrkbut i've already installed ubunty13:42
Ariloujussi01: Arilou vs ATI drivers part 4 now....13:42
ongntwrkdont wana restart it13:42
stdinongntwrk: that link tells you how to install apache+mysql+php on an already installed system, give it a read13:43
ongntwrkthks13:46
ongntwrk:)13:46
arbushas anyone successfully done a kubuntu-desktop install on hardy alpha1? I did a standard install and then tried to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. The dependencies are broken.13:54
stdinarbus: hardy support in #ubuntu+113:56
arbusthanks13:56
JevonI need help setting up internet sharing between two kubuntu systems, no router. Ideas?14:02
titanix88jevon use two lan cards!14:04
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Jevonboth systems are networked14:04
titanix88then add aditional lan cards. it wont matter.14:06
Jevonone computer cannot be added to14:06
Jevonwhat would an addiditional lan card do for me anyways14:07
frojndhow can I rename more than one file extension? rename *.asp *.html  ??? like this?14:07
Chousukeinstall the rename utility14:07
ardchoillekrename ?14:08
titanix88jeven: ohh. they r already networked! hmm...14:08
titanix88jevon firestarter can be used to easily share internet connection.14:09
Jevonis it already installed, or would I have to download it?14:10
frojndmv *.asp *.htm   I'm trying to rename *.asp to *.html and than I get message: mv: end,*.html` not a directory ...14:10
frojndhow can I rename ?14:10
Jevonright click, hit 'rename'?14:10
titanix88jeven u will have to install it.14:11
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Jevonplease tell me it is not a big file14:12
titanix88its not. trust me.:D14:13
Jevongood14:13
JevonI have a slow enough connection as it is14:13
* titanix88 shares the tragedy with jevon.he doesnt have one, let alone slow.14:15
* titanix88 shares the tragedy with jevon.he doesnt have one, let alone slow.14:15
JevonI can barely call 20k dialup a connection14:15
ethan_214:16
ethan_hello14:16
titanix88omg. i will be glad to have a 20k connecion. its more than enogh.:o14:16
ethan_can anyone receive my message14:16
titanix88hi ethan14:16
titanix88hi ethan14:16
Jevonjust forget about downloading most things14:16
ethan_why no one reply14:17
ubuntu_      14:17
titanix88jevon with wget, 20k is enough for me.:D14:17
titanix88jevon with wget, 20k is enough for me.:D14:17
wesleyhello if i wanna install kde4 apps i get break14:18
titanix88ethan !14:18
titanix88hmm. i want kde4 too.14:19
titanix88hmm. i want kde4 too.14:19
wesleykde4 work pretty well but i wanna have all kde4 apps and i try in adept but it says break14:19
JevonI sent for the 7.1 CD14:19
Jevonpossible repository lock?14:20
Jevonexcept he left14:20
wesleyits not with all14:20
titanix88guys is there new kubuntu cd out?14:21
Jevon7.1 Gutsy Gibbon14:21
wesleya alpha14:21
stdinJevon: 7.10, not 7.114:22
Jevonokay, add the 014:22
stdinJevon: (200)7/1014:22
stdinyear/month14:22
stdinthe 0 matters there ;)14:22
wesleydoes someone know why i get break ?14:22
Jevonah, so that is how they do the numbering14:22
titanix88i have the kubuntu 7.10 live cd. its not kde4!14:23
titanix88i guess it will be 7.10.114:23
JevonI know that they released KDE 4, not sure if Kubuntu has a version with it14:23
stdintitanix88: who said it would be? but there is a kde4 7.10 live cd at the link in the topic14:23
titanix88stdin : hmm...14:24
icewatermani do not know if this is a security issue but xfs_check segfaults when run on a reiserfs partition.14:25
icewatermani accidentally tried that (it does no damage)14:25
titanix88xfs is not reiserfs, thats why.14:26
stdinI doubt it's a security issue, but it is a bug14:26
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titanix88welcome doctor willis14:27
FSHero_Hi there everyone... I heard you talk about a KDE 4 live cd. I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.10 amd64 on my Core 2 Quad.14:30
FSHero_Shall I use the 'regular' KDE3 one, or the KDE4 release candidate?14:30
FSHero_I would love to try out KDE4... but the RC2 isn't too unstable, is it?14:31
Dr_willisfor kde4 - you may want to just keep testing out the live cd's14:31
stdinyou want kde3, kde4 is not ready for general use yet. just install kde4 along side it14:31
jussi01!kde414:31
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php14:31
FSHero_thanks everyone!14:31
FSHero_Is Hardy going to use KDE4?14:32
stdinnope14:32
stdinhardy is going to be a LTS, so it wouldn't be a great idea14:32
wesleyhttp://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde41un4.png  this is kde4 rc214:32
FSHero_D'oh... but I can install KDE4 alongside KDE3 in Hardy, right?14:32
stdinwesley: looks like it14:33
wesleyyes14:33
stdinFSHero_: yep14:33
FSHero_sweet!14:33
wesleykde4 is getting useable14:33
JevonI am just goind to temporarily disconnect this external modem and hook it up to my computer. THen I can download firestarter as well as all the other programs I want14:33
FSHero_I'm looking for the performance improvements... one can never have too many performance improvements! :D14:33
FSHero_By the way: on this computer I want to install Kubuntu Gutsy amd64 on, I already have Kubuntu Feisty i386 installed.14:34
Dr_willisare you sure you need the 64bit disrots? there can be issues with them.14:34
FSHero_I have a /home partition, and I don't mind completely wiping off Feisty (as opposed to "upgrading"). How would I go about this?14:34
FSHero_Do I just use the Gutsy live-cd and format the partition that Feisty was installed to?14:35
FSHero_Dr_willis: hehe, I've been told that before. I am confident that I want to try it!14:35
stdinFSHero_: you have no choice, you can't upgrade to 64bit. you just need to choose manual partitioning when installing and choose to mount your home partition as /home14:35
Dr_willisI normally just have the installer format/install over the existing / I dont even let it mount /home yet. I then manually change the fstab so its pointing at home after i boot up.  just to be safe. Heh.14:35
FSHero_Dr_willis: oh... ok14:36
Dr_willisI mount home as /to-be-home :) just to be safe. then fix the fstab.14:36
stdinit works fine, I've used the liveCD to format / and mount /home14:36
Dr_willisbut im paranoid.. since i accidently deleted home once.14:36
wesleyi have wiphed vista away14:36
plbhrm there something you gotta do to get flash to work in konq in kubuntu? I have flash installed but youtube doesn't seem to work14:36
FSHero_Dr_willis: aha. I see.14:37
FSHero_One last complication: This computer had Windows Vista preinstalled, then I installed Feisty. If I install Gutsy, will I still be able to boot into Vista? Will it be on the GRUB menu?14:38
* genii shovels a path in, and sips his coffee14:38
Dr_willisgenii,  i just got done shoveling.. Ick.14:39
Dr_willisIce with power snow on top. So you shovel.. then have to start hacking at the ice.14:39
Dr_willispowder. :)14:40
geniiDr_willis: I had to shovel out of the house yesterday to get to work to do more shovelling. Same today. By back hurts14:40
geniiBy->My14:40
geniiSame here with the ice underneath14:41
Dr_willisYep. Thats why i dident shovel yesterday. :) i stayed home.14:41
stdinFSHero_: if the feisty installed detected it then so will the gutsy one. you could always copy /boot/grub/menu.lst to your $HOME so you can just copy&paste the windows entry if it doesn't detect it14:41
Dr_willisthers an excample windows entry in the menu.lst also for windows on hda114:41
FSHero_stdin: cool, thanks14:41
FSHero_On a different computer (in fact, the very one I'm typing on now!), I want to install lirc to get the remote control that came with my Medion computer working.14:46
FSHero_Do I just follow the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty14:46
wesleythat kde4 live cd from kubuntub is no good14:46
stdinFSHero_: I guess it's worth a go14:47
fairmanhi, does somebody use applet rss4in1 ?14:48
Anpuhello, anyone knows how to make integral suign into word and latex? :)14:48
Anpusign*14:48
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FSHeroAhh... finally, I can have my name back! :)14:49
stdinyou could have just ghosted it14:49
stdin/ns ghost <nick_to_kill> <password>14:50
geniiwork /away14:55
dfaurenetwork configuration bug in gutsy? says "The default Gateway IP address is invalid", (using manual IP configuration) I'm sure it's correct, have been using those network settings for years...15:01
nevilleIs it at all possible to clear the RAM?15:01
kub^dfaure: have you checked you have the right subnet mask for your network ?15:04
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dfaurekub^: I always used 192.168.0.x with netmask of 255.255.255.0  -- but maybe that's not the official netmask for this subnet15:05
dfaure(and gateway is 192.168.0.254)15:06
iof4kaffeine hangs after saying "KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one..." any idea?15:06
kub^dfaure that sounds correct15:06
dfaureyeah looks like a bug....15:07
dfaureI guess I'll hand-edit config files like I always did, instead :)15:07
kub^:)15:07
ScottGanyone here messing with KDE4? How on earth do you make the taskbar smaller? :)15:11
mrdigitalScottG15:12
mrdigitalu mean the kicker?15:12
ScottGyeah, sorry15:12
emilsedghScottG: no way!15:12
ScottGright clicking it does nothing..15:12
mrdigitalright click the kicker15:12
mrdigitalyes15:12
mrdigitallook for configure panel\15:12
mrdigitalits in the uhm appperance section\15:12
emilsedghmrdigital: he said KDE4 which has no kicker15:12
mrdigitaloh?15:13
ScottGit's something on the bottom..15:13
ScottGcall it what you will..15:13
dfaureit's called the panel again :-)15:13
ScottGit's HUGE by default.. jusdt messing around and would like to make it smaller..15:13
emilsedghScottG: i didnt find a GUI for that, maybe it will come soon, maybe you could change that by altering the plasma config files in you ~/.kde415:13
BluesKajHowdy all15:20
emilsedghBluesKaj: hey, wb15:20
BluesKajhi emilsedgh, thx15:21
emilsedghBluesKaj: i love this 'Howdy All'15:21
BluesKajhehe15:21
BluesKajjust a friendly greeting15:21
trappistI've installed kde4 on gutsy, decided it's not quite there yet, and went back to kde3, and now it's all busted.  right-clicking the desktop doesn't do anything.  kicker only wraps around 3 sides of the compiz cube.   alt-f2 doesn't do anything.  alt-space does nothing even though katapult is running.  any ideas?15:21
noaXessi have connectet an mp3 player from iriver.. it will be show in lsusb but not automatically mounted..15:22
noaXessBus 001 Device 003: ID 4102:1126 iRiver, Ltd.15:22
noaXesswhat device need i to mount manually?15:22
BluesKajkatapult hardly works for me on kde3, trappist.15:22
trappistnoaXess: there should be several lines related to attaching the device in the output of dmesg, and one of them should tell you the device15:23
trappistBluesKaj: it worked fine for me until I installed kde415:23
trappistI'm worried it messed something up in my ~/.kde15:24
BluesKajkde4 ,is not ready period ...it breaks a lotta systems15:24
trappistI know it's *supposed* to use ~/.kde4, but there are entries in my .xsession-errors that say it's poking around in ~/.kde15:24
noaXesstrappist: have only this..15:25
noaXessnew fill speed USB.... and next line confguration #1 chosen...15:25
brkkgnslm15:26
brkkgnhiyaa15:26
trappistnoaXess: if it's a mass-storage device and you have the usb-storage module loaded and the device is supported, there should be more than that15:26
BluesKajtrappist, , there's a site that gives a tutorial on how to rid your setup of any residual kde4 files and libs ...try searching google-linux15:26
brkkgni m burak15:26
trappistBluesKaj: cool, thanks15:26
FSHeroHi everyone... I'm trying to get my x10 (I think) remote control working with my computer following the instructions on:15:27
FSHerohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty15:27
brkkgni dont know install programs for ubuntu15:27
brkkgnsend me help15:27
brkkgnplzzz15:27
FSHeroI've got as far as running "sudo depmod -a"15:28
ScottGalright.. KDE3 still working.. KDE4 is pretty sloppy for being an RC..15:28
brkkgnbrkkgn@hotmail.com15:28
brkkgnadd me15:28
brkkgnfor horny gils (6)15:28
FSHeroI was about to create a /etc/lirc/lircd.conf when I decided to try the buttons on my remote "for fun" :)15:28
ScottGno ops in here I see..15:29
FSHeroAnd... it seems to work on the whole already! So is it worth continuing with the instructions?15:29
ScottGthank you15:29
ubuntu_i think it sad that there are no games on the live cd and that msn does not workm15:29
trappistnp15:29
trappisthaven't whipped out my @ in so long I almost forgot how15:30
rothchildis kde 4 worth trying yet?15:30
ubuntu_yes its worth trying15:30
trappistrothchild: my recently-formed opinion is no15:30
ScottGI'm trying it and I don't know.. it's rough..15:30
trappistrothchild: if you want to check it out, I recommend creating a new user account for it so it doesn't muck with your ~/.kde15:30
ScottGI'd say no.. just my opinion..15:30
ubuntu_but you need to install a bunch off apps after you did the install like the tut on kubuntu.org15:31
ScottGmaybe a live cd to satisfy curiousity..15:31
rothchildI've just come in so missed what's been going on, what are the main showstoppers?15:31
ubuntu_kde4 live cd sucks15:31
ktosiasome fatass kicked me from ##ubuntu :-&15:31
ktosiahow to setup TOR then?15:31
rothchildtrappist good tip thank you15:31
ktosias/##/#15:31
trappistrothchild: main one for me was I couldn't get compiz to *not* start, and it doesn't play nice with kde4's compositing15:32
trappistrothchild: that and it broke my kde3 :)15:32
rothchildouch15:32
ubuntu_trappist in kde4 got its own compisting15:32
trappistubuntu_: yeah, but I can't stop compiz from starting, and they kinda clash15:32
ubuntu_i dont like compiz that fuckes kde up15:33
trappistktosia: I'm pretty fat myself.  please be polite.15:33
trappist!language15:33
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.15:33
trappistc'mon guys15:33
ktosiaok, so, politelly, how to set up tor?15:33
ubuntu_but kde4 will become the linux wow15:34
ktosiaubuntu_: huh?15:34
trappistktosia: and, politely, it's common practice to put some effort into research yourself, so you can ask *specific* questions when you get stuck.15:34
rothchildare you being ironic ubuntu_?15:34
ubuntu_vista is the windows wow and kde4 will be the linux wow15:34
rothchildoh dear, you are, that doesn't bode well for kde4 then15:35
ktosiaubuntu_: minds boggles, doesn;t it15:35
ubuntu_no just comparing XD kde3 is like the beter XP  and kde4 becomes the modern desktop who kicks vista wow15:35
rothchildktosia have you tried this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-tor-with-vidalia-gui-on-ubuntu.html#more-24415:36
ubuntu_i think kde4 looks a bit like mac15:38
ScottGI have to say that Kubuntu 7.10 has worked really well for me. It's almost boring, nothing to fix.15:38
ScottGa little..15:39
noaXesstrappist: it is a fresh install... need i install some more usb features?15:39
rothchildScottG I know what you mean15:39
trappistnoaXess: if it's a usb-storage device, no, you shouldn't.  but if it doesn't have that kind of interface, you may need to install something that specifically supports that device.15:39
ScottGone minor thing.. I can't turn off the darned PC speaker.. it's off in kmix..15:40
noaXesstrappist:  hm.. under windows it is not a really usb-storage.. it is called as iclix...15:40
ScottGif I back up and it won't go back anymore I have to hear the PC speaker beeping..15:41
rothchildI had that, turn off 'master mono'15:41
ScottGno option for master mono..15:41
* dfaure reported the kde-systemsettings bug now15:42
rothchildoh! spoils that plan then15:42
rothchildtook me a while to twig but that's where it was on mine15:43
ScottGit's not a big deal.. minor annoyance..15:43
trappistnoaXess: if it's usb-storage, under windows you should be able to mount it as a drive15:43
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trappistnoaXess: what's the device again?15:43
ScottGKubuntu has worked so well I've not been using my PCLOS partition..15:44
eshathi all,.. how do i switch to ubuntu testing ???15:44
rothchildon a bit of a tangent does anyone know about using xampp on a pendrive?15:44
rothchildeshat you can start in #ubuntu+115:45
trappisteshat: if you mean the "next" version of ubuntu... what rothchild said15:45
llutzrothchild: theres a win-solution on portable-apps.com http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp15:45
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trappisteshat: but in general it's not organized like debian.  we don't have stable, unstable, testing, experimental etc.15:46
rothchildhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha115:46
rothchildllutz that is as far as I got, I wanna be able to carry this: www.eyeos.org around with me15:47
frqwmy cd drive is locked, any way to force it to open? (it's not mounted)15:47
rothchildIt seems like I can run apache off the pendrive with portable firefox and have my own portable os without having to boot from usb etc (and get in trouble with IT at work! ;-))15:48
trappistfrqw: if it's really not mounted it should open.  you could try umount -l, and if that doesn't work it should have a tiny hole you can stick a paperclip into to eject it.15:48
noaXesstrappist: ok i see.. this iriver device has two ways for connection..a micro$oft like an a normal usb storage connection..15:49
rothchildfrqw if it's not spinning you can use an unrolled paperclip in the lilttle hole on the front15:49
eshattrappist: ,... hmm i thought it s similar to debian ,... so it's not that stable like testing in debian ???15:49
trappisteshat: right, we have a 6 month release cycle, and you can always try the next version, currently "hardy heron"15:49
rothchildeshat, no. Ubuntu take a six monthly snapshot of SID and try to stablise it (because they only do 2 arch's rather than debians 15 or so)15:50
eshattrappist: how do i test it ,... do i have to change gutsy in sources.list to hardy ???15:50
frqwugh my paperclip is stuck in that hole15:51
frqwok it worked, but once i close it again it gets locked...15:52
rothchildfrqw do you have another optical drive to test if it is a soft or hardware issue?15:52
frqwuh, no15:53
bassemwhen i try to copy files to my flash usb ... error sayd cant write to /usb location15:54
bassemwhen i try to copy files to my flash usb ... error sayd cant write to /usb location15:57
BluesKaj!patience | bassem15:58
ubotubassem: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:58
Lynourebassem: how are you copying the files? usually usb sticks don't end up to /usb but under /media15:59
bassemLynoure: this is the exact error ... "Could not write to /media/disk/filename"16:00
eshatIs it dangerous to install kde4 ,.. could it harm my kde3 installation ?16:00
BluesKajeshat, yes16:01
eshatBluesKaj: :(16:01
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eshati cant wait 24 days16:02
BluesKajif you aren't sure wait for the official release ..some ppl have had success with the RC2 but not many that i know16:02
jslI've got a laptop that I'm using together with a docking station, and after some headakes with ati's drivers, I got the setup working with both the external lcd and the internal lcd (dual head). But when I take the laptop home the second screen isn't attached, and among others, firefox tries to start in it's view, but dies trying. Ideas as to how this would be resolved?16:03
onishidatohow can i open a FAT32 partrition?16:04
Lynourebassem: And it is not full or write protected?16:04
jslwhen I enter system settings, it claims I've got one monitor with a resolution of 3360x1050 (while in reality I've got two monitors, both at 1680x1050)16:04
llutz!vfat16:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE16:04
llutzonishidato: ^^16:04
onishidatollutz: thanks16:05
cssI want to install irda-utils with apt-get from konsole on any mirror the file is giving at unpaking an 127 eror I have tried to force install and nothing same trouble16:06
llutzcss: send a bug-report to maintainer16:06
stdin!bug16:07
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots16:07
bassemLynoure: no its not16:07
cssmaintainer?16:07
csswhat's that16:07
Lynourebassem: what the filesystem on the usb?16:08
llutz css  the one who is responsible for that package16:08
cssok but how I contact him16:09
llutzcss: his name, email: "aptitude show irda-utils"16:09
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llutz !bug| css but have a look on this:16:10
ubotucss but have a look on this:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots16:10
bassemLynoure: i have no idea ... anyway i can know this ?16:11
lolologuys do you know how to set up sharing in network&connectivity in System settings?16:11
cssthanks16:11
Lynourebassem: do  mount   and it's there on the line for your usb stick, in the end or before the parenthesis. If there is anything in parenthesis, that is also important to note16:12
BluesKajlololo, do you have samba installed ?16:12
ZombieAnyone familiar with lockup issues under Ubuntu Gutsy if LDAP is enabled in nsswitch?16:13
ZombieI just found out that was the culprit for yesterday's lockup.16:13
ZombieIf the LDAP Server is unreachable, Ubuntu Freezes.16:13
lololo<BluesKaj> nop shall i sudo apt-get install samba? or i need to install something else to make it work through the control panel GUI?16:13
wesleyadept did crashed and its closed cplease help16:14
ardchoille!adeptfix16:15
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:15
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BluesKajlololo, install samba yes. use konqeror for the gui/browser..it integrates nicely with samba ..to find you network shares just type smb:/ in the konq addressbar , once samba is installed and you've set the shares you want16:16
BluesKaj!samba | lololo16:17
ubotulololo: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT16:17
lololo <BluesKaj>  thanks16:17
BluesKajlololo, hope it works for you :)16:19
lololo <BluesKaj>  hehe me too :) i want to tranfer a lot of stuff and don't want to do manually with nc ;)16:20
BluesKajlololo, what kind of network are you working with . i might have a few more hints16:20
lololo <BluesKaj> 2 kubuntu boxes, i want to transfer like 5 GB16:22
BluesKajlololo, that should be a breeze then :)16:22
kazanbievclear16:23
kazanbievhelo16:24
BluesKajlololo, I'm sharing files with wifes windows pc and it's easy on Gutsy16:24
BluesKaj!hi | kazanbiev16:25
ubotukazanbiev: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:25
lololo <BluesKaj>  hmm so i installed the samba server on both boxes... now i simply select the folders i want to share?16:25
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Blueska HI16:26
BluesKajlololo, open konq nad type smb:/ in the addressbar and wait for 20 secs to see what comes up16:26
BlueskaHi16:27
lololo <BluesKaj> i get an error that nothing can be found...16:27
lololo <BluesKaj> could my router block the traffic?16:27
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bazhanghi BluesKa16:28
florianrHello!16:28
florianrI am looking fo DVDauthoring software ... it should be quite simple, just burn an avi file with simpple menu on a dvd nothing special ....16:28
BluesKajlololo, reboot both boxes16:29
florianrWhat should I use?16:29
llutzflorianr: qdvdauthor, kmediafactory16:29
BluesKajflorianr, K3B burns, K9copy authors , as does tovid16:30
florianrllutz: I allready installes kmediafactory ... but when adding my avi file I says:16:32
florianrKann Datei /home/florian/brandes/verabschiedung_brandes.avi nicht hinzufgen16:32
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hadawiehi there, am kinda new to KDE, can anyone tell me if there is a defualt folder for the themes that must be dropped at in order to fully implement them ?!?!16:32
llutzflorianr: encode it to mpeg in avidemux before16:33
Silvisterhow to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)16:33
BluesKajflorianr, perhaps asking in #kubuntu-de , would help explain your error message16:33
hadawiei've downloaded many themes, the colors style gets changed, while the desktop wallpaper doesnt!! :S16:34
llutzBluesKaj:no probs,  i'm german too16:34
llutz ;916:34
BluesKajok  :)16:34
Silvisterin giving ssh accounts to my pc users...how to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)16:35
florianrllutz: Hmm I am not verry familiar with dvd stuff, but the file comes direkt from a selfmade dvd, so it should be the right mpeg format shouldn'T it?16:35
BluesKajflorianr, excuse me for inyerupting , but does your dvdplayer play DIVX files , if so there's no need to transcode avi files , just burn them direct16:36
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llutzflorianr: dvd-files usually aren't avi-files, maybe they're encoded before.16:36
lololoback16:36
lololoi still have a problem with this16:36
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?16:36
lololoit finds the folder but when i press on the folder i get something like folder does not exist...16:37
florianrllutz: May be the file extension .avi is wrong? How could I check what encoding that vide has?16:37
llutzflorianr: file file.avi16:37
BluesKajlololo, open system settings/networking/and mark zerconf browsing in zerconf service discovery16:38
melsanihug16:39
florianrllutz: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video:, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)16:40
lololo<BluesKaj> they are both marked -Enable Zeroconf network browsing  -Browse local network16:40
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?16:40
BluesKajlololo, open the file properties and use the share option on those files16:42
llutzflorianr: since avi is just a container and no own format, i don't know what that is :)16:42
bazhangflorianr: what about vlc; will that open it?16:42
lololo<BluesKaj> done16:43
BluesKajflorianr, pass the cursor over the file and look for someting like Divx or Xvid in the dialog16:43
Silvisterin giving ssh accounts to my pc users...how to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)16:43
BluesKajlololo, it should work now ...if not i don't know what to do next16:43
zphinxDoes the grub version that comes with kubuntu funk up the mbr? for some reason i cant boot a XP CD without a black screen on a puter i installed kubuntu on lately.16:44
lololo<BluesKaj> i still can see only the folder name and not its contents16:44
lololo<BluesKaj> i have put an x to the option inherit permissions from the parent directory16:45
lololo<BluesKaj> but still i cannot finsd the folder contents16:45
=== Crematorio is now known as El_Horror
lololo<BluesKaj> could there be the NTFS file system's fault?16:46
Silvisterdo i need open-ssh to let others ssh acces on my pc?16:46
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lololo<BluesKaj> the folder is on a separate partition under NTFS16:46
stdinSilvister: you need "openssh-sever"q16:46
stdinminus the 'q'16:46
BluesKajlololo, then you'll have to set that partition up to share16:47
zphinxAnyone?16:47
Silvisterstdin some body told me i just need sshd... ?16:47
stdinSilvister: openssh-sever installs the sshd binary16:48
stdinzphinx: the mbr has nothing to do with booting CDs16:48
BluesKajlololo, that NTFS partition should be listed in network profiles16:48
zphinxstdin: This has never happend before i installed kubuntu. i reckon something has happend.16:49
Silvisterstdin so if i only have sshd . will i be able to do the same job?16:49
stdinzphinx: booting from CD is set in the BIOS, if the kubuntu liveCD boots then it's probably the XP CD16:49
zphinxTwo of them? one with sp1 and one with sp2?16:50
stdinSilvister: where would you get sshd from?16:50
zphinxOne being professional, the other one being corporate.16:50
stdinzphinx: does the kubuntu live cd boot?16:50
lololo<BluesKaj> gotta go for now, thanks for the help :) i'll look at it later again...16:50
Silvisterstdin apt-get?16:50
zphinxyeah, anything with linux on it boots.16:50
sintheteki was hoping someone could help me with my kubuntu installation to gutsy. it seemed to work ok after reboot but yesterday after a power outtage it seems udev/device mapper or whatever is having issues with my home partition16:50
stdinSilvister: so just install "openssh-server" then it will install and setup a ssh server for you automatically16:51
=== DonSleep is now known as El_Horror
Silvisterk16:51
stdinzphinx: it's nothing to do with linux then, it cannot alter the bios and the kernel isn't even loaded if you're booting from CD16:51
Silvisterstdin how to realltime moniter ssh login activites?16:52
sinthetekalthough i can mount and fsck the drive fine from debian install cd in rescue mode, ubuntu continually says 'resource unavaiable' or 'partition busy or already mounted' despite contents of /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts16:52
zphinxstdin: and you wouldnt think the windows install reads the format of the mbr upon booting?16:52
stdinSilvister: the commands "who" and "w" are good to see who's logged in16:52
stdinzphinx: the CD? no it dose not16:52
stdinzphinx: it can install to a totally blank HDD and ones with GRUB16:53
GLADtrsay me please - how to enable firewall(netfilter/iptables) on my mychine16:53
* stdin speaks from experience here16:53
stdin!firewall | GLADtr16:53
ubotuGLADtr: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).16:53
Silvisterstdin - how to see activity and commands given in their shell ?16:53
sintheteksince ubuntu can access / partition on same drive and debian's rescue mode fsck says partition is fine and i can mount it fine from there, it seems most likely the cause is some sort of problem in ubuntu's uuid or coldplug or udev implementation or something16:54
stdinSilvister: "w" can show what command is currently running, as to see exactly what going on in a shell then you'll have to google16:54
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?16:54
sintheteksays /home partition is fine*16:54
Silvisterstdin how to use "w"16:54
stdinSilvister: type w into konsole16:54
stdin(and press enter)16:55
Silvisterk16:55
Silvisterthx!16:55
Silvisterstdin lastly . can you tell me how do shell providers for eggdrops work. they give installing rights. but their file system is also protected. and they make user confined to one directory only.. how?16:56
stdinSilvister: that's a quite complicated thing to explain, it involves chroots and jails16:57
stdinSilvister: if you really want to know exactly how you should email one of them and ask how they do it16:58
Silvisterstdin ic.. i wonder how is the chrooted user going to get access to the compile tools?16:58
Silvisterstdin ok... nice idea...16:58
Silvisterstdin thanks ! :)16:58
stdinyou can install gcc/g++ in the chroot ;)16:58
stdinas an example, all ubuntu packages are built in a chroot16:59
Silvisterhmm.16:59
maninderomg i restarted and compiz isnt working no more17:00
maninderto enable it should i type in emerald --replace17:01
bazhangcompiz --replace in the run commmand box17:03
bazhangcommand17:03
maninderthanks alot17:03
maninderhow come when i restart it disapears17:03
maninderits pritty wierd17:04
El_Horroremerald --replace, with compiz --replace the menu titlebar dont see17:04
bazhangnot sure--I try not to restart :}17:04
MinnozzHi, anybody knows why nautilus has 100% CPU load ?17:05
bazhangopen top or htop Minnozz and take a look17:05
fgeysercan someone please lend me a hand with my internet connection ?17:05
Minnozzbazhang: yeah I did that,  6156 minnozz   25   0 96440  45m  13m R  100  4.5 122:57.77 nautilus17:06
fgeyseri cant open any web pages ?\17:06
El_Horrortell me fgeyser17:06
fgeyseri cant open any web pages ?\17:06
El_Horrorwhat is the error?17:06
fgeyserlooks like it cant resolve the dns host17:07
bazhangMinnozz: trying killing the process17:07
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?17:07
Minnozzbazhang: ehm, is that smart?17:07
Minnozzisn't nautilus the window manager?17:07
fgeyserany ideas ?17:09
El_Horrorfgeyser, you use pppoeconf for your internet connection?17:10
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?17:10
fgeyserno vodafone mobile connect manager17:10
fgeyserit connects at 3G but will not display any webpages " cannot connect to host"17:11
bazhangnautilus is ubuntu, right? Minnozz17:12
Minnozzbazhang: ooh I don't know, I do have ubuntu-desktop installed17:12
MinnozzI'll just try17:12
Minnozzbazhang: killed it and I'm still alive, so worked =) thanks17:13
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fgeyserdoes anyone know why i cant open web pages ?17:16
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=== hydrogen is now known as notHydrogen
KingzarWhere can you follow new developments or plugins to install on ubuntu?17:18
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bazhangfgeyser: do you have ethernet connection or wireless17:18
fgeyser3G datacard17:19
fgeyserwhich i am using at the moment17:19
fgeyserif i open a web page error "cannot connect to host"17:20
bazhangKingzar: not really sure what you mean by developments17:21
Kingzarany gadgets17:21
Kingzarlike compiz fusion super karamba screenlets knotes17:21
bazhangKingzar: digg.com, lifehacker.com they have linux sections on stuff like that17:22
rothchildkingzar try www.kde-look.org17:22
bazhangoh yeah kde-apps.org as well; nice call rothchild Kingzar (look there as well)17:23
fgeyserwhois fgeyser17:28
onur_hi17:32
bazhanghi onur_17:32
onur_i cannot shutdown from GNOME on a GNOME/KDE Ubuntu system17:32
onur_the option is absent17:32
onur_any comments :)?17:33
onur_i mean it makes me log out to KDM window17:34
onur_btw here is unusually quiet today :))17:34
BluesKajonur_, are you running both gnome and kde ?17:35
onur_anyone? :)17:35
onur_yes17:35
BluesKajwell then just do what it asks17:36
onur_:P17:36
onur_thanks mate17:36
onur_for the advise17:36
onur_there is no "shutdown" button in my GNOME closing menu17:36
onur_only "log out"17:37
BluesKajuse the shutdown on the kde login menu then17:37
onur_it doesn't make any sense to log out first and then "shutdown" and then "close17:37
poison--hi guys17:37
onur_it takes additional 20 seconds17:37
bazhangonur_: logout does not lead to the window with the restart etc window? strange17:37
onur_bazhang: no it leads to KDM manager17:38
onur_but i want a direct exit button like i used to have before installing kubuntu-desktop17:38
bazhangonur_: well this is #kubuntu :}17:38
onur_well i AM using Kubuntu :)17:39
onur_but also Ubuntu .)17:39
bazhangonur_: I thought the problem was in gnome?17:39
onur_well maybe :)17:39
onur_since you think so :D17:39
onur_i'll have a look to #ubuntu then ;)17:40
Dr_willisIf using gnome. and NOT using gdm as a login manger. some of the exit/logout stuff seems to get disabled from what vie seen.17:40
onur_care17:40
bazhangno shutdown button in gnome; that would seem to be a gnome problem, correct? :}17:40
onur_willis17:40
onur_yes!17:40
Dr_willisThe same seems to be true if using KDE and gdm.17:40
onur_yes this is my case17:40
Dr_willisSo use GDM, if you are using gnome.17:40
onur_how can i change that setting?17:40
Dr_willisor just make a button that does a halt. :) or some other command to reboot/halt/whatever.17:41
onur_no changing the setting will do i guess... but i donno how to restore GDM17:41
onur_:)17:41
bazhangkubuntu tutorial on thursday! :}17:41
Dr_willisNot sure how gdm/kdm/gnome/kde figure this all out. but theres some isscommunication. Ive NEVER seen a 'setting' that makes it work.17:41
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm17:41
Dr_willisselect gdm or kdm :)17:42
onur_ok i will give a try :)17:42
onur_thanks17:42
Dr_willisof course I dont find it much of an issue.17:42
stdinbazhang: huh?17:42
sub[t]rnl /etc/X11/default-display-manager17:43
sub[t]rnltoo17:43
bazhangstdin: to make a button that Dr_willis mentioned17:43
* sub[t]rnl huddles coffee17:43
onur_thanks sub and bazhang17:43
onur_i will restart to see if it's working now :)17:43
onur_bbs17:43
skybluesannhi.17:43
Dr_willisyou could set it up where the user can just run the halt command also. :)17:43
skybluesannnice to meet you.17:43
stdinbazhang: yeah, but kubuntu tutorials have comes and gone :)17:43
skybluesannis there anyone who can talk to me?17:44
skybluesanni'm korean.17:44
bazhangstdin: good point--I should have linked the log of that one :}17:44
bazhangskybluesann: do you have a support question?17:44
skybluesannyes.17:44
skybluesanni have question.17:44
bazhangask away17:44
skybluesanni use ubutu......17:44
skybluesannbut, i had chaned my input keyboard.17:45
skybluesannbut, i can not use korean and japanese input mode in indonesian ubuntu.17:45
skybluesannhow shoud i do?17:45
skybluesanndo u understand?17:46
bazhangskybluesann: you were doing it previously how?17:46
bazhangyes I understand skybluesann17:46
skybluesanni can not use ime<- now.17:46
skybluesanni can use korean and japanese in japanese and korean or english mode in ubuntu.17:47
bazhangskybluesann: how were you entering japanese and korean previously? skim?17:47
skybluesannbut, if i change korean or japanese to indonesian, i can not use input mode (japanese korean,)17:48
skybluesannyes.17:48
skybluesannskim.17:48
skybluesannyes, skim is working in korean or japanese ubuntu...17:48
skybluesannbut, skim is not working in indonesian ubuntu.17:49
skybluesannhow shoud l do?17:49
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skybluesannif i want to use korean or japanese in indonesian ubuntu, how should i do?17:50
bazhangskybluesann: how about indonesian from korean or japanese? does the reverse work17:50
Chaseanyone know anything about how firefox's RSS preview page works? im tryin to setup a script that'll add RSS feeds to Akregator but it doesnt look like Firefox is even trying to call the script?17:51
skybluesannonly, when i change japanese or korean to indonesian, skim is not working .17:51
bazhangskybluesann: does skim work from the japanese for indonesian?17:52
skybluesannyes.17:52
bazhangskybluesann: why not do it that way then?17:52
skybluesanni don't know.17:52
skybluesannskim is not working in indonesian ubuntu.17:53
skybluesannbut, skim is working in japanese, korean ubuntu.17:53
bazhangskybluesann: you said it works that way--so that way is working--why not use skim from japanese to do indonesian?17:53
bazhangskybluesann: would you prefer a channel in korean to help you?17:54
skybluesannbut, maybe, another people don't know this problem...17:55
skybluesanncoz i'm using indonesian as defalut input.17:55
skybluesannanother korean is using english or japanese as defalut input mode.17:55
bazhangskybluesann: I have had problems with skim as well--change the default to japanese/korean and see if skim works for indonesian from there17:55
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?17:56
skybluesannbut, indonesian character(letter) is alphapet....then,17:57
=== neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde
skybluesannin korean or japanese mode, , skim is working ....17:57
skybluesannno problem...17:57
darxwhy is it that ubuntu works well while kubuntu crashes and hangs a lot? Is kde buggy?17:57
bazhangskybluesann: things don't always work the way we want them to--do you want to try another way to get this to work? then try the default korean or japanese and see if indonesian works from skim17:58
sylwik666hi17:58
bazhangdarx: no idea--kubuntu is fine here17:58
zulmaespañol? speak spanish?17:58
trappistanyone know how to configure the panel in kde4?17:58
sylwik666how to change the resolution of the screen to higher?17:58
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bazhang!es | zulma17:59
ubotuzulma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:59
skybluesannok.17:59
skybluesannfirst of all, i try....17:59
skybluesanntks for ur advise.17:59
bazhangsylwik666: monitor and display17:59
drbobbdamn i'm at a loss for ideas to make wireless work consistently in kubuntu18:00
sylwik666but where i cant find it18:00
sylwik666bazhang: where18:00
bazhangtrappist: is it configurable? I have never figured that one out :}18:00
trappistbazhang: me neither, yet.  if it's not configurable, I'm gonna be *very* disappointed.18:01
bazhangsylwik666: system settings doensnt have anything for that? look around in the kmenu, hey?18:01
bazhangtrappist: it's early days :}18:01
trappistbazhang: yeah but it's not like they're calling it pre-alpha.  they're calling it a release candidate.18:02
bazhangtrappist: I'm waiting for kde4.5 :}18:02
sylwik666i have already done it,is there any command to change it?18:02
sylwik666to change the resolution18:02
darxI always get this or that thing crashed when running kubuntu. where as ubuntu runs fine18:03
bazhangsylwik666: done what? were you in administrator mode?18:03
bazhangdarx: well, that is not much info to go on--my advice wouldnt help with such sparse detail :}18:03
anand#delhi18:04
trappistalso I totally broked my panel by trying to drag a new widget onto it.  the left 1/4 of my panel is a white rectangle, the 2nd 1/4 is a truncated panel, and the 2nd 1/2 is empty18:04
darxits an app named apport18:04
sylwik666bazhang: i have already searched teh kmenu18:04
sylwik666nothing is there18:04
drbobbwould you expect kubuntu to automagically handle insertion of a supported card into the pcmcia socket?18:05
sylwik666drbobb: nie wiesz jak zmienic rozdzielczosc pulpitu w kubuntu?18:05
drbobbsystem settings/ computer administration/monitor & display18:06
MrJigsawHello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?18:07
bazhangsylwik666: alt-f2 kcontrol18:07
bazhangsylwik666: in peripherals18:07
bazhangsylwik666: monitor and display18:07
drbobbsame module as in system settings18:08
bazhangsylwik666: find it?18:08
bazhangdarx: apport is a crash reporter right?18:08
sylwik666still searching it18:08
Kingzarhow do you link to your hard disk?18:08
bazhangheh18:08
Kingzarexternal?18:09
Kingzarscreen -R hellanzb18:09
Kingzar Hellanzb.PREFIX_DIR = /media/Houston/downloads/hellanzb/'18:09
Kingzaris this not correct?18:09
drbobbwow my wireless has been holding on to my ap for a whole 15min now18:14
peterpan_ iam sharing internet throught a server connected to my lan. i want to allow a person to ssh my pc. how can i do it.?18:19
fannagogannayou need to start the ssh server on your machine18:19
peterpan_fannagoganna what is that?18:19
emilsedghpeterpan_: install openssh-server18:19
bazhangpeterpan_: listen to wols in #ubuntu :}18:19
fannagogannaright18:19
peterpan_fannagoganna the ip that you can see on my whois is my server ip. my ip is 192.168.3.175 ...   if he connects  to my apperant internet ip . ie 116.71.183.228   . will he be able to connect to my pc?18:21
fannagogannayeah, if you have the ssh server up and running18:21
fannagogannado you have an account for him?18:21
peterpan_fannagoganna iam gona make one.18:22
fannagogannasomething like "guest" for instance :D18:22
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peterpan_fannagoganna i wanna make a similer account like the shell providers do.. for eggdrops.. will that be possible?18:23
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=== benito is now known as benito_
fannagogannayeah, I mean you can create an account using kuser or whatever the gnome equivalent is -- with password and home directory18:24
peterpan_fannagoganna ok. but i want that to be limited to one directory only. and protect the file system. but.. at the same time. i want him to be able to install apps (ie. eggdrop)18:25
fannagogannahmm, that is complicated -- don't know how to do that. I mean, you can give him administrative privileges so he can use sudo18:25
peterpan_ic18:27
peterpan_fannagoganna i think theres no need for sudo to do  ./configure make make install     ?18:27
fannagogannaah ok18:27
peterpan_is there?18:27
fannagogannaI didn't know if he was installing system wide18:28
fannagogannaif he's just doing that, then no18:28
fannagogannaI guess make him a member of as few groups as possible, using users-admin (GNOME program to administer users)18:28
AyabaraI have a creative zen player. is it possible to mount it like a normal disk under linux?18:29
peterpan_k18:30
wesleyhello i goet broken by kde4 apps installing does someone know how to fix?18:34
trappistwesley: I had to cd into /var/cache/apt/archives and sudo dpkg -i --force-all *kde4*.deb18:35
trappistwesley: and then run sudo apt-get -f install18:35
Dr_willis:) Thats  sounds like a good reason for me to keep testing kde4 with the live cds only :)18:40
wesleyDr_willis but with live cd is no fun18:44
Dr_willis:)18:45
Dr_willisi test them out, then give the live cd to my friends at work for them to test out.18:45
trappistso far I hate plasma.  not the idea, but there's a lot of work left to be done.  starting with panel configurability.18:45
Dr_willisEvery week they are.. "Ok where the latest kde4 live cd at!" :)18:45
wesleyi underfind it as a waste from my cd,s18:45
Dr_willisI only got a stack of like....299+ cd's here. :)18:46
Dr_willisthey are getting old. A few yrs back there was a big sale on thm at xmas.. so guess what 4 different people got me for xmas..18:46
wesleyjep i got my cd,s also a few years XD but now i am running out of cds18:47
Dr_willisI think i got a stack of like 100 Linux disrto cd's here from over theyears also.18:47
Dr_willisI cleaned out a lot of the old old old ones. :)18:47
wesleyi order live cds but burn them also18:47
Dr_willisive been testing them out in vmware/virtualbox lately. saves me time.18:48
Dr_willisbut ive had a few disrtos that dont boot properly in vmware/vbox. Oddly enough they do work in a real machine..18:48
acemooif you accidently quick format a ext3 partition to ntfs, is it possible to get it back to ext3 and get ur data back?18:49
Dr_willisHmm.. Ive never noticed a 'quick' format option for ext318:49
acemoofor bios flashing.. had to install windows.. (sony only lets me flash from windows :S)18:50
fannagogannanope18:50
acemooi formatted the wrong partition :/18:50
Dr_willisin theory you could do fsck.ext3  with a different..err.. whats the name.. the data table ##18:50
bazhangacemoo: unless you were backed up, no18:50
fannagogannayeah, it's pretty much it18:50
Dr_willisbackup superblock wouldent help eh?18:51
acemoothe quickformat of windows setup basicly just allocates the space for the partition.. it doesnt really removes the data, just marks it as empty18:51
Dr_willisOh - you quickformated it UNDER windows...18:52
sigma_kubuntui suppose only a data recovery company can help u.18:52
alesanhi, I need some serious help :) this is getting ridiculous, gnome-users point their finger at me and laugh, not to mention windows ones... knetworkmanager won't work with wireless, I select a network I know the WPA key for and it doesn't join18:52
fannagogannayeah, I guess so :(18:52
Dr_willisyou could 'dd' the drive to a file. and try out various ways of gettign the info back18:53
alesanthis happens in the office, in the apartment, at my friend's house...18:53
fannagogannaor you could try dd on it, but I don't know how to recover the data18:53
sigma_kubuntubt that wud cost a arm and a leg18:53
fannagogannadepends -- what does this data contain?18:53
sigma_kubuntuwas the data realy that important?18:53
alesanhow can I "reset" knetworkmanager or is there somethng better?18:53
fannagogannaif it's work related, you might get your Co to pay for at least part of it18:53
Dr_willisfsck.ext3 /dev/whatver -b 8193           --  perhaps?18:53
wesleywas python?18:54
trappisthey that reminds me.  I have a 500GB filesystem, like 5% full, that I want to image to a 400GB drive.  if I use dd, will that work? or do I need an identical-size drive?18:54
acemoofannagoganna: im a student, doubt school would care about me screwing up with my homework and other stuff i got..18:54
Dr_willishow do ya fsck a dd drive image file anyway?18:54
Dr_willistrappist,  if its so empty.. ehy not just copy the files over?18:54
fannagogannaperhaps now is the best time to smoke 5 blunts and listen to Wu-Tang :)18:54
fannagoganna8 Diagrams -- as good as the old Wu-Tang18:54
Dr_willisThere are drive image tools that can compress.18:55
trappistDr_willis: it's a whole OS, so I want to image it18:55
Dr_willismondo/mindi come to mind. :)18:55
Dr_willis5% of 500gb is still.. what..  25gb?18:55
trappistDr_willis: that's backup/restore software iirc18:55
Dr_willisthen theres the reserved space..18:55
fannagogannayep18:55
trappistyeah, that should work...18:55
Dr_willisthen theres the good old tar methods. :)18:56
trappistDr_willis: yeah but I'm not just transferring files18:56
Dr_willisYou want to clone the 500gb hd to the 400gb hd? OR what then.. :) im missing somthing here.18:56
trappistDr_willis: basically I have an OS installed on a *bad* 500G drive, and I have a good 400G drive I want to replace it with18:57
Dr_willisive seen tar with a lot of optuins used to clone one os/hd to another18:57
trappistDr_willis: and it's a server, so I want to do it as quickly as possible to minimize the downtime18:57
Dr_willisof course the fstab and uuid's will need to get tweaked.. and the grub.. and wonder what else...18:58
trappistthat's probably it... actually grub shouldn't have to change18:58
Dr_willisof course theres a lot more backup/imaging tools out there18:58
trappistit'll still be hd(0,1)18:58
trappistis mondo still actively developed?  I haven't used it in like 5 years18:58
Dr_willisI havent used it in ages either.18:59
Dr_willisI tend to reformat/reinstall clean - jus to remove all the cruft i accumulate. :)18:59
fannagogannareally?? wow18:59
trappistDr_willis: me too, but this server has a lot of hours of configuration and stuff that I'd rather not have to do again19:00
Dr_willisOf course its just me, my roms/videos/junk.19:00
trappistespecially the mail stuff.  dspam, clamav, postfix, procmail...19:00
Dr_willisRight now on this box.. I have 3 external usb hd's and a external dvd burner. :)19:00
Dr_willisand 2 hds in the box..19:00
Jimmy__can some one help me with this ssh problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48562/19:00
Dr_willisclose to 2gb of storage on this machine.19:01
Dr_willisoops 2TB :)19:01
trappistJimmy__: looks like you got the wrong password19:01
Dr_williswork time for me. bye  all19:01
bazhangbye19:02
llutzJimmy__: sure that this user is allowed to log-in?19:02
Jimmy__trappist i was checking my ssh. i tired to connect to my pc my self.  my login name is loguser1 . i gave the right password  ( provided that i am on lan for internet sharing and the ip was my server's ip.)19:02
Jimmy__llutz ^19:03
trappistJimmy__: if you have access to the machine you're trying to connect to, check the logs for the reason for the failure19:03
trappistspecifically /var/log/auth.log if it's an ubuntu/debian box19:04
Jimmy__trappist - do you think its a port forwarding problem?19:05
lololo<-back19:05
trappistJimmy__: well it *could* be, if you're forwarding 22 to the wrong box or something, but there's no way to tell from your pastebin19:06
lololocan anyone help me with file sharing problems?19:06
bazhanglololo: can you specify?19:07
Jimmy__trappist - by default . what is  my password for ssh ?19:07
trappistJimmy__: there is no default password19:07
trappistyou set it up when you install19:07
saraMy strigi died, I hav eno idea what happened but I cant start the daemon19:08
llutzJimmy__: userpassword19:08
Jimmy__trappist i never set it up.. i just installed ssh server and ssh client19:08
lololo<bazhang> i have installed samba but even when i have selected share (from the menu) i can see only the folder name and not its contents19:08
llutzJimmy__: ssh is remote shell access, so you need an account (user/password) on remote machine (with sshd running)19:08
trappistJimmy__: your ssh username/password is your system username/password.  it's not ssh-specifric19:09
trappist*specific19:09
lololo<bazhang> i have chosen simple sharing and the other pc that i want to access the files runs also kubuntu19:09
bazhanglololo: have you asked in #samba?19:09
Jimmy__ic19:09
lololopfff nobody is answering at #samba...19:14
lololoany other ideas for folder sharing?19:14
sigma_kubuntushouldn't u use nfs between two kubuntu pc's?19:16
sigma_kubuntufor file sharing19:16
lololo<sigma_kubuntu> apt-get install nfs?19:17
Jimmy__llutz - trappist - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48563/19:17
trappistJimmy__: you would say helo if you telnetted to port 25.  you don't ssh in and say helo.19:18
sub[t]rnllololo: sudo apt-get install nfs-common19:18
ScorpKinglololo: the best way (for me anyway) is to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and set shares there.19:18
Jimmy__trappist ya .but it woked. didnt it?19:18
sub[t]rnlnfs is recommended between two *nix boxes19:18
sigma_kubuntuyeah that one. theres a nice how-to at help.ubuntu.com19:18
sub[t]rnl!nfs | lololo19:19
ubotulololo: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.19:19
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trappistJimmy__: the ssh part?  yep19:19
sigma_kubuntuyup thats the link19:19
Panken'abend19:20
sigma_kubuntusamba is for sharing with windows machines usually19:20
Jimmy__trappist  so how can i solve my problem?19:20
trappistJimmy__: you have to figure out why the authentication is failing.  already told you how to do that if you have access to the remote machine.  if you don't, you have to talk to someone who does.19:21
Pankeafter reboot cant connect to icq via kopete and konqueror does not show me any files on my system / webpage. But Firefox does. Someone an idea?19:21
ScorpKingPanke: using dailup?19:22
lololoplease someone tell me there is a fast gui for making the configuration on nfs :)19:22
Jimmy__trappist what can i do with telnet?19:23
Pankeno static ip behind a router.19:23
Pankeit did work just 3 hours ago.19:24
sigma_kubuntulololo: file sharing applet in kcontrol19:24
trappistJimmy__: not much, hopefully.  when ssh is available there's *no* reason to install a telnet service.  I only mentioned telnet because 'helo' is something you'd say to a mail server over telnet.19:24
Pankeand konqueror does not even show me the files in my homeordner (or everywhere else)19:24
trosephAfter installing compizfusion I am having a weird "focus on hover" kinda thing. How do I set that back to the normal settings?19:26
lololo<sigma_kubuntu> thanks :) rebooting now19:26
sub[t]rnltroseph: in ccsm, general plugin, go to focus & raise behavior and click the "click on focus" box19:26
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trosephsub[t]rnl: thank you! That was driving me crazy.19:27
Pankeokay, i renamed the ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and restarted my sessions and all is just working.19:32
sinthetekis it hard to migrate an installation from ubuntu to kubuntu?19:34
sub[t]rnlsinthetek: it can be done with the kubuntu-desktop package.  There is another fairly straightforward method of removing all the gnome apps and turning it into a purekde environment.19:35
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trappistsinthetek: just say sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde19:42
rcg1984Please have a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48570/ -Thanks19:42
trappistthe kde part is optional.  installs a lot of extra kde packages.19:42
ScorpKingwhat is the menu in kde4 called again?19:42
ScorpKingrcg1984: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /home/richard/.kde/ should fix that19:44
trappistScorpKing: I think it's just an 'application launcher' widget for the panel19:44
ScorpKingtrappist: nope. it was developed by suse or novell i think. still searching online..19:46
rcg1984ScorpKing: Thanks, I think that may have worked19:46
ScorpKingrcg1984: you're welcome. it's a known permission problem with dolphin as far as i know.19:47
trappistis that one of those issues where an app runs as sudo and creates root-owned files in the user's home dir?19:47
rcg1984ya, I was wondering that myself.  I installed it right out of the box(so to speek) and that kept happening to me19:48
trappistlike vim creates ~/.viminfo as root if the first thing you do on a new system is, say, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list19:48
ScorpKingtrappist: it's called kickoff btw. ;)19:48
trappistScorpKing: oh cool, never heard that before19:49
tijnhey ppl, i recently did an dist upgrade to 7.10, and now my sound output is waaay to low, ive checked alsamixers volume, it looks ok.19:49
ScorpKingtrappist: here's an image of it - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/289819:49
trappisttijn: depending on your soundcard, you might want to look at 'master' and 'pcm' in addition to 'volume' on your mixer19:50
trappistScorpKing: yeah I'm looking at it here :)  just never heard it called kickoff19:50
ScorpKingah ok19:50
tijnhm, well pcm is @ 100%, master is 0% but it's unchangeable19:51
trappistScorpKing: I don't suppose you've found a way to configure the panel19:51
boubbinis it possible to write something to konsole with dcop ?19:51
trappistboubbin: I'm pretty sure I've done that before19:51
ScorpKingtrappist: not using kde4 at all. will take a look next year19:51
boubbintrappist how ?19:51
batis610I had try to install my video card two months ago(i had work to so i stoped till now)... i dont remember wich tutorial i'v followed, and it seems that it was intalled(i've an ATI RADEON x1650 PRO), but the display is slower than before... how can i proceed now please19:51
trappistScorpKing: ah19:51
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trappistboubbin: I dunno, I use dcop so seldom I have to learn it again from scratch every time I touch it19:52
boubbintrappist i've checkd all the dcop functions and i cant find correct function to write something so session..19:52
boubbinok..19:52
ScorpKingboubbin: you making service menus?19:52
trappisthrm, kdelibs5 seems to be missing libkdeprint.so.519:54
boubbinScorpKing im trying to make np script over ssh, from kubuntu to kubuntu with screen irssi and amarok19:54
boubbini only need to write the np line to konsole and send it over ssh, i can do all the rest19:54
ScorpKingah ok. sorry no help from me.19:55
trappistboubbin: I'm trying to help, but I'm in kde4 and can't start konsole due to missing library :/19:55
boubbin:/19:55
tijntrappist, it seems the only thing i can change is PCM and MIC19:57
tijn(as root)19:57
sigma_whats the best kde media player?19:58
sigma_that can play audio video and dvd19:58
tijnkaffeine is nice19:58
tijnbut its what suits you best19:59
pollux_An excellent media player is vlc19:59
sigma_kaffeine looks so old for some reason, i like amarok but it only does audio19:59
pollux_Kaffeine does apparently not use w32codecs20:00
ScorpKingsigma_: try vlc. there's a lot of skins available for it20:00
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ScorpKingpollux_: it does AFAIK20:01
sigma_is vlc the same as it is on windows?20:01
ScorpKingyes20:01
trappistI use mplayer for just about everything... since it'll play just about everything20:02
trappistI still use xine for dvds, since last I checked mplayer didn't have dvd menu support20:02
sigma_trappist: yeah was just about to say that20:02
sigma_trappist: how can it not support menu's though?20:02
trappistI did see on mplayer's site something about that, so I think if you built it from source (with the right options) it would support it20:03
tijnso.. can it be my sound problem has anything to do with rights?20:04
trappistoh it's there in gutsy20:04
trappistdunno if it's compiled with dvdnav support, but it's in the man page20:04
trappisttijn: can you change the volume as root?20:04
tijnnope20:04
trappistthen no :)20:05
trappistwhat sound card?20:05
tijn(thought so) :020:05
tijn Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)20:05
trappisttijn: oh, is this by chance a lenovo box?20:06
tijnnope, toshiba20:06
tijnlaptop20:06
trappistok my lenovo has the same card, similar problems20:06
jussi01!intelhda20:06
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto20:06
trappistoh wow20:06
tijn:)20:06
trappistthanks jussi01 :)20:06
tijnsweet20:06
jussi01:)20:07
tijnwierd though sound worked fine till i updated to 7.1020:07
jussi01tijn: yeah, its a known bug iirc.20:07
trappisttijn: me too.  it's a driver issue.20:07
trappistI had it fixed, but I rebooted and it was unfixed, and I haven't messed with it since.20:08
tijnah ic :) well thnx for helping20:08
trappistthat link is the best looking info I've seen so far on the issue20:08
astanhello folks. how can i make net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 at boot? i.e. enable forwarding of IPv4 packets at boot.20:09
trappistastan: /etc/sysctl.conf20:09
astantrappist: ah right, just found it. didn't realize it's probably the same as in *BSD which i'm used to, thanks ;)20:09
trappistactually for that particular one it seems like there's another file somewhere...20:09
astantrappist: oh. a "better" way?20:09
astanhigher up in the boot-up logic?20:10
trappistastan: no, just a different config file with the same effect, specific to that one parameter20:10
trappistok nope, it looks like that's the one :)  I'm probably thinking back to my redhat/mandrake days20:11
divan_sysctl -p astan20:11
trappistdivan_: that'll apply new settings, but won't change what happens at boot20:12
astantrappist: alright, i'll go with sysctl.conf then.20:12
divan_that saves whats in /etc/sysctl.conf20:12
astandivan_: yea, good to know too. thanks.20:12
trappistthat *applies* what's in sysctl.conf20:12
trappistsysctl.conf *is* the save20:12
divan_o yeah20:12
trappist:)20:12
divan_:)20:13
astantrappist: it seems there used to be a /etc/network/options in which you could set ip_forward=yes, but it's deprecated in debian nowadays.20:13
trappistastan: ah that's probably what I was thinking of.  I was just poking around /etc/network and couldn't find anything :)20:14
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astantrappist: :)20:14
astanbtw, do you know the difference between net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1 and net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ?20:15
astanthe commented out example in sysctl.conf uses the former.20:15
trappistno, I'm not sure, but iirc the 'default' thing is the default for nics, where each nic has its own individual settings20:16
astani see that *.conf.eth0.* et.c. is for controlling of different interfaces, but why a "default" config if there's that plain net.ipv4.ip_forward ?20:16
trappistwhen I set it, I do like echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward20:16
trappistyeah that's what I don't know20:16
astanalright, maybe net.ipv4.ip_forward is deprecated.20:17
trappistmaybe ip_forward is a prerequisite for turning on forwarding for individual nics20:17
astantrappist: ah, that would make sense.. if it wasn't for the fact that i've used only net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 up until now, and it's enabled forwarding "globally".20:18
trappistright20:18
astanbetter not think about it too much and just uncomment the example ;)20:18
trappistmaybe a question for the folks in #kernelnewbies on oftc20:18
astanthat's what i like with the *BSD sysctl manpage (at least on FreeBSD), it has a short description of every variable.20:19
trappistthat's in the linux-doc package here20:20
trappisterr, maybe not20:20
sigma_why do gtk apps have to look so ugly in kde?20:20
trappistoh there it is...20:21
astantrappist: i don't blame linux if it doesn't have it, it's developed at a much higher pace, and probably has more sysctl's.20:21
trappistsigma_: there's a theming engine for gtk to make them look like your kde theme.  I forget which one20:21
astantrappist: hm. the linux-doc package only installed a copyright and changelog.gz file for me..20:23
trappistastan: looks like docs for this are actually missing from the kernel docs20:23
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trappistastan: yeah it's in linux-doc-[version]20:23
astantrappist: ah.20:24
trappistbut it's got docs for /proc/sys/fs, /proc/sys/vm, etc., but not /proc/sys/net etc.20:24
trappistapparently20:24
vivekneed some help in connecting gprs through nokia data cable20:26
astantrappist: ah. i think there's some docs in it in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.22/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt.gz20:26
astans/in it/on it/20:27
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trappistastan: oh, my grep missed that somehow, good find20:27
astansysctl docs seems to be scattered about in the docs for each subsystem.20:27
trappistyeah20:27
trappistoh grep prolly missed it because it's compressed20:28
Jimmy__my firestarter auto exists the sys tray. i have to run it again. and it again asked for a password from me. why does it disappears.?20:28
viveki am able to chat in Konversation but unable to browse in Konqueror20:28
sub[t]rnlJimmy__: known bug.20:29
vivekkindly help me20:29
Jimmy__sub[t]rnl how to fix it?20:29
nosrednaekimvivek: are you using knetworkmanager?20:29
viveki am using wvdial in Konsol20:30
sub[t]rnlJimmy__: not sure if its been resolved yet.  Its strange because it will exit without any errors, so its hard to pin point.20:30
viveki am using wvdial in Konsole20:30
Jimmy__ic20:30
nosrednaekimvivek: then kill knetworkmanager20:31
trappistooh what's this new hotness with dpkg-buildpackage and fancy colored output20:31
vivekis there any command for that??20:31
trappistor is the hotness with make, or gcc or something20:31
astantrappist: okay, not all sysctl's seems to be documented there, but from what i can understand, using the *conf.default* will change the default for all interfaces, it can still be overridden for each interface, while i think the shorter net.ipv4.ip_forward will enable it unconditionally for all interfaces, and can't be overridden.. not sure though.20:32
trappistastan: that kinda-sorta makes sense20:32
astanehm.. yea.. anyway. 'nuf about that. thanks ;)20:33
vivekplease help me connecting GPRS through nokia mobile using KPPP20:33
michelehello everybody... with many programs i don't see windows well....i usually have black windows so i can not read. It happen with many program i try to install... do you have any suggestion?20:33
vivek please help me connecting GPRS through nokia mobile using KPPP20:34
llutzvivek: bluetooth or usb?20:34
vivekusb20:34
nosrednaekimvivek: on your system tray there is an icon for knetwork manager... right click and select close20:34
llutzvivek: sry, no idea20:34
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vivekhey <nosrednaekim>.. thanx20:35
lololololhas anyone installed kubuntu on an acer laptop?20:35
jussi01lolololol: many have, whats the problem?20:36
nosrednaekimvivek: that work?20:36
nosrednaekimlolololol: got an acer here, but the models differ very greatly20:36
lololololthe sound exit does not work on mine guys20:36
lololololthe one you plug the headphones20:37
jussi01lolololol: does any sound work?20:37
nosrednaekimlolololol: what model20:37
Jimmy__sub[t]rnl and this means that when firestarter is dead. iptables is also dead. and theres no firewall... right?20:38
vivekyaa...<nosrednaekim>20:38
llutzvivek: device should be /dev/ttyACM0 (or higher number), init-strings and dial-number depend on your mobile-provider.20:38
lolololol<jussi01> <nosrednaekim> yup all sound works normally except the three holes for sound in etc travelmate 248020:38
vivekthere is one more problem....there is no mp3 support in Amrock20:38
jussi01lolololol: try going to kmix and making sure everything is turned up/on20:39
nosrednaekim!mp320:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:39
michele hello everybody... with many programs i don't see windows well....i usually have black windows so i can not read. It happen with many program i try to install... do you have any suggestion?20:40
michelei have this problem even with amule20:40
nosrednaekimmichele: thats a bug with compiz and nvidia20:40
michelei have intel's chipset video20:41
micheleis there any solution?20:41
lolololol<jussi01> everthing seem normal, also when i press the combination Fn+up arrow that supposed to raise up volume it goes only at 11%20:41
jussi01lolololol: what kind of sound card?20:41
nosrednaekimlolololol: thats a known bug, shouldn't be affecting your sound card20:42
nosrednaekimmichele: yes, increase the amount of video ram available to the video (probably the setting is in your BIOS)20:42
lolololol<jussi01> i have no clue its an onboard one20:42
lolololol<jussi01> 940GML if that helps20:43
lolololol<jussi01> i think its intel20:43
micheleok thanks... i'll try20:43
batis610i tried several times before to install my video card (ATI RADEON x1650 PRO)... now i'm going to reinstall my KUBUNTU GUTSY... can anybody suggest me an efficient tutorial to follow please20:45
nosrednaekimlolololol: try unmuting all channels in kmix and maxing their volumes20:45
batis610any idea??20:48
nosrednaekimbatis610: try the newest drivers20:49
nosrednaekimfrom the ati site20:49
batis610nosrednaekim: and how to install it??20:50
nosrednaekimbatis610: let me find you the tuorial20:50
batis610nosrednaekim: ok20:50
rcg1984Does anyone know of any software that is equivalent to Quicken but open source?20:53
nosrednaekim!gnucash20:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnucash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:53
nosrednaekim!info gnucash20:54
ubuntu_Buenas alguien de chile?20:54
ubotugnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1746 kB, installed size 5360 kB20:54
rcg1984hrm interesting... is it indepth like quicken?20:54
ubuntu_Buenas alguien de chile?20:54
nosrednaekimrcg1984: not sure, never used it.20:54
nosrednaekim!es20:54
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.20:54
rcg1984nosrednaekim: Thanks, i'll have a look20:54
kristian_hi kann mir 1 helfen krieg den cube nich mehr hin hab neue grafigkarte eingebaut geforce 840020:54
nosrednaekim!de20:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:55
lololololcrap i now realized that vlc gives louder sound than kaffeine how can this be?20:55
nosrednaekimbatis610: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide ... Use Method #220:56
franciscogood night20:57
lololololgn20:58
batis610nosrednaekim: ok thks, i'll  try it20:58
franciscosomebody can say to me the channel of ubuntu in spanish20:58
batis610hope it works20:58
nosrednaekim!es20:58
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.20:58
franciscothank you20:58
nosrednaekimbatis610: I found it easier to install the driver straight from .rn rather than generating debs20:58
nosrednaekim* .run20:58
rcg1984nosrednaekim: From what I can tell, it does what quicken does but it's organized in a different matter.  It's pretty sweet from what I can tell. Thanks again20:59
nosrednaekimrcg1984: ok, great21:00
amrushhi all .. can anyone tell me how to reduce firefox's cpu memory usage ?21:01
amrushanyone ?21:04
nosrednaekimamrush: not really...21:04
amrushthanks nosrednaekim .. but is there a special channel for firefox or something ?21:04
nosrednaekimprobably21:05
nosrednaekim#mozilla21:05
amrushthanks21:05
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sub[t]rnlyou can have firefox load into the harddrive and out of your ram when you minimize it21:06
sub[t]rnlthats about it21:07
sub[t]rnl:/21:07
pastry_or21:07
amrushaha .. can u show me how ?21:07
pastry_browse less web pages at once works too21:07
sub[t]rnlpastry_: yeah, or less plugins21:08
sub[t]rnlamrush: type in about:config in the adress bar21:08
sub[t]rnlright click, and select new -> boolean21:08
sub[t]rnlor whatever21:08
sub[t]rnlthen enter config.trim_on_minimize21:09
sub[t]rnland then select true, and restart21:09
sub[t]rnlor if you really want to have less of a memory footprint, start firefox like this --> "konqueror"21:10
sub[t]rnl:>21:10
nosrednaekim:D21:10
* tijn is away: afk..21:11
sub[t]rnl!away | tijn21:11
ubotutijn: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines21:11
amrushlol .. nice one .. thanks anyway .. i'm addicted to firefox now .. i'll mingle with konqueror sometime later21:11
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batis610nosrednaekim: please i don't understand this 'Now, make this run before gdm' in the tuto?21:17
Ayabaraxit21:18
nosrednaekimgdm's equivalent is kdm in Kubuntu21:18
qolochmod -x kdm21:19
nosrednaekimbatis610: don't worry, that isnt neccesary21:19
nosrednaekimBBIAB21:19
rocme_hi21:24
rocme_i have a problem with knetworkmanager21:25
rocme_i want him to connect to an wlan21:25
Ax-Axcan I start the installation from the livecd via cli?21:25
jpatrickAx-Ax: you have to get the alternate cd to do that I think21:26
rocme_but he always says that there is no "active device"21:26
jussi01rocme_: what chipset is your wireless?21:27
rocme_(I treid to translate from german, sorry if it's wrong)21:27
Ax-Axjpatrick: Imean, from a konsole inside the gui?21:27
jussi01!de | rocme_21:27
uboturocme_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de21:27
rocme_thx :)21:27
jussi01:)21:27
rocme_is my english so bad? ;)21:27
jussi01rocme_: no, but we try to make things easier for you :)21:28
Arilouhi hi!21:28
* jussi01 runs21:28
Ax-Axi don't have any "install" button on the desktop :(21:28
rocme_:-)21:28
ArilouI'm following the guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161817&page=3 to make my soundblaster work properly but it asks me to disable default onboard card in BIOS, how do I do it?21:28
Ariloujussi01: hey there! ^_^21:29
jussi01Arilou: you know the setup when your pc first starts?21:29
jussi01Arilou: thats bios21:29
Ariloujussi01: oh oki oki, it's disabled on BIOS21:29
jussi01:)21:29
Ariloujussi01: now there's another thingie, everyone seems to use the digital out on the SB Live, but I don't I use the front stereo and back stereo jacks, is there anyway to change the line 'slave.pcm "surround51"' and 'slave.channels 6' to fit my needs?21:31
jussi01Arilou: no idea, sorry21:32
Ariloujussi01: no problem =)21:33
nosrednaekimArilou: try #alsa21:34
lololololi generally think most hardware manufactures are stupid cause they only officially support windows21:35
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taraksiashello i have upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and when restarted i get on a blank screen. any suggestions?21:37
bonaldo2000Help! I somehow removed java support from my system! Now I cant figure out which packages to install to get it back!21:37
nosrednaekim!java21:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.21:37
nosrednaekimtaraksias: video driver problems.... go to ctrl+alt+f2, log in, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reboot21:38
nosrednaekimselect vesa for the driver in that dialog21:38
taraksiasnorsednaekim: i have done this using fglrx settings but nothing21:38
taraksiasonly working with vesa21:38
taraksiasthere is no way to get it work with fglrx?21:39
nosrednaekimtaraksias: yes, use the restricted-manager21:39
taraksiasnorsednaekim: how?21:40
Arilou#alsa21:41
nosrednaekimtaraksias: "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"21:41
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taraksiasnorsednaekim: i have try that...but i get blank screen again21:44
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tekstacy'lo all21:46
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alesan!delpfin21:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about delpfin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:46
alesan!delfin21:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about delfin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:46
tekstacyWhen I try to copy a file from a windows box on my lan, it asks for username and password.21:47
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alesan:( how do I uninstall the infamous delfin from my system21:47
tekstacyBut I have no pwd set on the xp box. wtf?21:47
alesanI was konqueror so badly :(21:47
alesans/was/want21:47
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jussi01!dolphin21:48
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.21:48
alesanjussi01: well thanks, I wonder why they didn't make it even more complicated21:49
jussi01alesan: :)21:49
alesan:)21:49
alesananyway21:50
alesanI just found out that simply removing the nasty dolphin from the system with adept, makes the default go back to konqueror21:50
hjif kde 4 comes out... will kubuntu add some High Quality fonts to make it look really sharp?21:53
hjthey always say... if someone complain about fonts21:53
hj" well thats up to distrobutions"21:53
Tm_Tsure21:54
hjso i ask it here , are there any plans to make it look modern sharp cool...whatever buzzoword to use21:54
Tm_Thj: find a good font?21:54
hjim not good in finding :(21:54
Tm_TI'm happy with my current fonts, never seen better ones21:54
hjcan you show a screenshot for me?21:54
hj(you can upload to imageshack.com)21:55
lololololwhen is kde4 is released again?21:55
Tm_Tlolololol: next year21:55
hjsomewhere january21:55
Tm_Tor later ;)21:55
Flare183!kde4 | lolololol21:55
ubotulolololol: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php21:55
Tm_T"when its ready"21:55
hjTm_T can you show screenshot svp?21:55
Tm_Thj: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png21:56
Tm_Thj: patience, my young padawan21:56
hjwhats a padaawan21:56
Tm_Tstudent21:56
hji think your sitre is broken21:57
hjconnection times out21:57
tijntrappist, u there?21:57
Tm_Thj: hmm, interesting21:57
hjnow it works21:57
hjyes your font look right.21:57
hjbut thats not default installed i thikn21:58
Tm_Thj: actually default fonts21:58
Tm_Tatleast should be21:58
Tm_TDejaVu <321:58
hjlooks different with e21:58
hjon laptop my fonts look.. well..  some say to me what you whine about.  but its lot less quality compared with windows/apple21:59
hjand fonts are the most important thing on a desktop21:59
lolololollove the wallpaper Tm_T21:59
Tm_Thj: so that means your font settings are the one troubling, if we are using the same fonts?22:00
sandra_test22:00
hjso are you trying to convince me here that you tweaked nothing22:00
Tm_Tsandra_: untest22:01
hjmaybe does it matter if i.. for example installed NVIDEA driver or not22:01
Tm_Thj: no, I said I have pretty much default fonts, but not default font _settings_ ;)22:01
hjdoes fonts change?22:01
Tm_Thj: nope22:01
hjTm_T so how did you change settings,  in a .fonts.cong ?22:02
hj.conf22:02
Tm_Thj: use antialisation and hinting suitable to your eyes ;)22:02
Tm_Tjust kcontrol22:02
Daisuke_Idohj: toy with your ...  what he said :)22:02
hji ttried that.. just makes it uglier22:02
Tm_Tinteresting22:02
hji dont think so22:03
Daisuke_Idothen you may not have the ideal resolution for your laptop's display...22:03
hjyes thats true22:03
hji didnt installed drivers yet22:03
Tm_T.22:03
Daisuke_Ido...22:03
hjbut will do it now... going offline to install now22:03
Daisuke_Idoso go do that22:03
Daisuke_Idooi22:03
Tm_Theh22:03
Daisuke_Idoof course it's going to look terrible.22:04
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ne1hello.  does the current image (  kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso )   come with KDE 4 RC 2  ?22:12
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Tm_Tne1: no22:13
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ne1so i have to put on kubuntu then remove the kdelibs, then put on the new?  thats the only way?22:14
Tm_Tne1: no, there's no KDE4 anything in there by default :)22:14
Tm_Tne1: so just install KDE4 and you're good to go22:15
neulwow... this is a big channel :)22:15
Tm_Tneul: see #ubuntu22:15
neulit's np Tm_T22:16
Tm_Tneul: well, if you're looking for a big channel...22:16
neulit's just that I like to watch videos, and they won't play22:17
Tm_Twhat videos?22:18
Tm_T!mp3 | neul22:18
ubotuneul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:18
ne1tm, thx22:18
neulrm videos, wmv videos22:18
Tm_Tneul: look those urls ubotu gave22:19
earl_i have a quick question for anyone who knows the answer;22:19
earl_why does everyone go "omgomgomgomg konqueror is the best browser evarrr"22:19
Tm_Tearl_: never seen that happening22:19
earl_'cause... not only does it take forever to load pages... but it also doesn't even render the kubuntu.com page right...22:19
Tm_Tthere's no such thing "best" in browsers22:19
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Tm_Tearl_: works best in MY use, dunno yours ;)22:20
earl_perhaps not but a lot of people say konqueror is great and i just don't see what it is22:20
Tm_Tit's matter of personal needs22:20
Daisuke_Idoif you don't do anything with dynamic pages or css or ajax/web 2.0/buzzword of the week, konqueror's awesome22:21
earl_in fact it doesnt even render kde.org right22:21
earl_which i kind of think is depressing22:21
Tm_Tearl_: kde.org and kubuntu.org renders fine here :)22:21
Tm_Tso dunno your case22:21
earl_i'll show you a screenshot22:22
senorpedrohi, i try to install the new 7.10 kubuntu on a computer with a 1650x1080 widescreen tft. the display is completely weird, it looks "over" the left margin. when i change to a smaller resolution (like e.g. 1280x1024) it works, but the non-native resolution looks bad on the tft. has anybody ever struggled with this issue and knows an answer?22:22
Tm_Tearl_: anyway, in my use it's matter of functions and features, Konqi is only one having ~all I need in one package, I recommend you to use one you like :)22:23
Tm_T!fixres22:23
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto22:23
Tm_Tsenorpedro: ^^22:23
lololololi love konqueror cause i can use sftp :)22:23
earl_Tm_T: normally first thing i do on an installation of kubuntu is apt-get install firefox. just curious if there was something i was missing22:23
earl_http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ts3.png22:24
Tm_Tearl_: heh, dunno, Firefox doesn't "fit into my hand"22:24
senorpedrodoes the nvidia driver work on kubuntu?22:24
Tm_Tsenorpedro: does22:24
Tm_T!nvidia | senorpedro22:24
ubotusenorpedro: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:24
Tm_Tearl_: that can't be Konquerors fault22:25
earl_it better be - this is a clean install as of 10 seconds ago22:25
earl_err22:25
earl_10 minutes ago22:25
earl_as far as i know i did not type in apt-get install konqueror-snapshot-ruiner or anything like that22:26
Tm_Tearl_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/konq-kde.jpg22:26
earl_right, that is what it should look like22:27
earl_i dunno, maybe i just need to konfigure it?22:28
earl_AHHH configure it22:28
earl_brb22:28
Tm_Term22:28
Tm_Tshouldn't need any22:28
ardchoilleKinda looks like it's using a special css22:29
Tm_Tyup22:29
knubbel_hi, does anybody have a recommendation for a webcam that is relatively hassle-free to install? thanks22:36
Tm_Tknubbel_: Logitech QuickCam Express22:37
Tm_Tplugin, done22:37
romunovcan someone help me get my server online?22:37
Tm_Tcheap, not good quality, but, works22:37
romunovi've set up a page and i can't access the server through the internet22:37
knubbel_thanks Tm_T22:37
peterpan_how to mount a partition?22:37
Tm_T!mount | peterpan_22:37
ubotupeterpan_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter22:37
Flare183!mount peterpan_22:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mount peterpan_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:37
Flare183!mount | peterpan_22:38
Tm_TFlare183: too late22:38
Flare183yep22:38
lololololi have a logitech quickcam too didin't need any configuration too22:38
peterpan_well i see them but how to mount?22:39
Tm_T!fstab22:40
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions22:40
Tm_Tmgh22:40
Tm_Tpeterpan_: media:/ ?22:40
Flare183!Partitions22:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter22:42
Flare183!DiskMounter22:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE22:42
Flare183ther22:42
Flare183e22:42
Flare183sorry for the enter22:42
Tm_T!botabuse | Flare18322:42
ubotuFlare183: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.22:42
Tm_T;)22:42
peterpan_Tm_T got it.. but i want those to be only read only to ANY OTHER. and only writeable or deletable by ROOT only..22:43
Flare183Tm_T:> dude, i forgot sorry22:43
peterpan_Tm_T how to do it?22:44
Tm_Tpeterpan_: mounted on boot?22:45
peterpan_Tm_T what do you mean?22:45
Tm_Tpeterpan_: would you like them being mounted all the time or just when needed?22:45
kayhello, is someone in here who can trigger rebuild of adept?22:48
Tm_Tkay: umm?22:49
kayon hardy alpha adept is somewhat broken, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/17628622:50
kayi think this should be adressed before alpha 2 goes out22:50
Tm_Tkay: aah, hardy :p22:50
Tm_Tkay: #kubuntu-devel perhaps22:51
kayoh, :-)22:51
kaymost probably ;-))22:51
peterpan_Tm_T mounted at all times. readonly to me.. (iam the only user.. my login name is log1 . (am i root also?))       but i want it to be writeable or deletable by root only.22:52
kaythanks22:52
Tm_Tpeterpan_: then fstab is your friend22:52
peterpan_fstab?22:52
jussi01!fstab22:52
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions22:52
peterpan_how to do it by gui     disk and filesystem in sys settings?22:53
sinthetekis there a kubuntu netinst.iso somewhere? i only got a 650mb cdrw to work with22:54
jussi01!install | sinthetek22:55
ubotusinthetek: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:55
peterpan_Tm_T how to do it by gui     disk and filesystem in sys settings?22:55
Tm_Tyes I suppose22:55
earl_is there a kde4 channel of some sort?22:55
Tm_Tearl_: related to what?22:56
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earl_related to discussion of the current known issues with kde4 rc222:56
earl_it's a little rough around the edges for a release candidate, i think22:56
Tm_Tearl_: it is rough :)22:57
peterpan_what does this means nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=4622:57
earl_for example, why doesn't kdesudo believe me when i put in my root password?22:57
Tm_Tearl_: #kde and #kde4-devel perhaps22:57
earl_like it pretty much says "psch, nuh-uh"22:57
earl_thanks22:57
Daisuke_Idoprobably because it's not asking for the root password...22:57
Daisuke_Idooi22:57
earl_what other password is there..?22:58
Daisuke_Idoyour password22:58
earl_one and the same in ubuntu, i thought22:58
Daisuke_Idothey are not the same, do not confuse that.22:58
Daisuke_Ido!root22:58
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:58
earl_well i've only told ubuntu one password22:58
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earl_so if ther'es another password i'm gonna hav ea fun time figuring that one out22:59
Daisuke_Idoi think there was just confusion there22:59
Daisuke_Idowhat you were giving it was your password, not the root password, so yes, kde4 is screwing up (which doesn't surprise me much)22:59
sinthetekare daily snapshot images usually smaller than release images?23:01
JortmansI seem to have a problem downloading  or installing stuff23:01
Daisuke_IdoJortmans: what's the problem?23:02
amundsenhi23:02
amundseni have installed kubuntu gutsy and tried to update the system, but it gives me some problems with ttf-opensymbol and some dependencies23:03
jac0bI am using tighvnc to connect to a machine. It shows I am connected but a window didn't popup showing the remote computer23:04
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jac0bcan anyone tell me how to show the remote computer window23:05
Jortmans it sais there has been a problem making the changes and there might have been a porblem with downloading some packages23:06
Jortmansbut it does so with every application I try to install23:06
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JortmansDaisuke-Ido:it sais there has been a problem making the changes and there might have been a porblem with downloading some packages23:08
Daisuke_Idodid you follow the instructions it gave?23:08
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get -f install23:08
JortmansDaisuke_Ido: ?23:09
Daisuke_Idouse that command in a terminal.23:09
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memphism23:10
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JortmansUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?23:11
jussi01Jortmans: have you got adept open?23:12
Jortmansno23:12
jussi01!adeptfix23:12
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:12
Daisuke_Idodid you have synaptic open?23:13
Jortmansnot that I know23:14
FSHeroHello everyone... I'm in a Kubuntu amd64 Gutsy live-cd right now, and am about to install it over an installation of Kubuntu i386 Feisty. Do I just follow the installer?23:14
miloudhello23:14
Jortmansshould I?23:15
FSHeroOk, I'm going ahead!23:15
Jortmanshey this is weird, it seems to be installed anyway23:16
blizzzekkde4-question: i somehow managed to remove all keyboard shortcut profiles. i don't really know what the trigger was... anyone an idea how to restore them? i got the ppa kubuntu-members-kde in my sources.list23:18
Jortmansnever mind then, it seems to be working properly23:20
Jortmansthnx23:20
JortmansI'm back...:S23:22
Jerenmyehi, does anyone knows how to configure kontact so that it doesn't start with is window opened?23:22
Jerenmyewith _his_ window opened23:23
Jerenmyewith _its_ window opened (lol)23:23
Jortmanstrying to start adept installer it crashed23:23
poison_can i change my machine name23:25
Kernel!hostname | poison_23:25
ubotupoison_: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab23:25
JortmansAdept crashed when I tried to run it23:26
zorglu_q. i got a box installed french, and i would like to switch it back to english, how can i do that ?\23:29
carlosbuenas noches a todos23:30
carlossoy nuevecito23:30
carlosacabo de instalar el kubuntu23:30
Tm_T!es | carlos23:30
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:30
Dragnslcrzorglu- System Settings -> Regional and Language23:30
zorglu_LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 <- i found thaT :)23:30
Tm_Tcarlos: not the wole world can talk spanish, I remind you ;)23:30
zorglu_Dragnslcr: ok thanks23:30
carlosthanks :P23:30
carlossorry23:30
poison_ty kernel23:31
Kernelnp poison_ :-)23:31
lonejackdoes somebody of you is aware regarding adept manager crashes ?23:33
PollywogAdept crashes on me sometimes23:34
* Daisuke_Ido beats amarok senseless23:34
lonejackBut it tell you pakage installed also it hasn't?23:35
Daisuke_Idosansa e260, a perfectly normal mtp player, and amarok chokes on it23:35
Daisuke_IdoBAD.23:35
Daisuke_Idoto the point that amarok completely crashes when i plug it in :(23:35
Pollywoglonejack: I am not sure I understand the question.  My English is not so good23:35
Daisuke_Idoso...  anyone here an expert on libmtp?23:36
poison_Kernel, i asked that because i access a win@^%#@^$ 2003 server with rdp23:36
poison_and now everytime i access it, it says my license is ending23:37
PollywogDaisuke_Ido: have you tried compiling amarok yourself from deb-src?23:37
poison_and i read somewhere if i change the hostname i can contiune accessing23:37
Daisuke_IdoPollywog: i've discovered it's a libmtp problem rather than an amarok problem23:37
Pollywogoic23:38
lonejackI used adept manager to install dome packages, during those operations someone of the crashes (the system tell you, a message like "the packet is broken..." or similar). You close the dialog, retur to adept, and adept tell you, packages installed...23:38
icemani think i have a some kind of video card issue23:39
batis610I try to install my video card (ati radeon x1650 pro) following this tutorial: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide .... when i comment this 'Driver      "fglrx"' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and i reboot... i cannot login anymore... and i have to uncomment it so i can do.... what's wrong?23:39
Pollywoglonejack: perhaps it crashes but still installs the packages that caused the crash.  Did you verify with apt-get that they installed?23:39
icemanevery once in a while ill get like this blurry screen type thing with no picture at all and then the signal cuts completely23:39
icemanand i can't restore it23:40
icemancan someone help?23:40
postghello, I try to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.1023:40
icemanit forces me to shutdown and restart which would suck if i was in the middle of something important23:41
postgafter upgrading, I get errors: http://paste.uni.cc/1783123:41
postgcould someone help me ?23:41
postgtake a look at it: http://paste.uni.cc/1783123:41
postghow can I fix that?23:41
Daisuke_Idoyou can start by being patient.23:42
postgFirefox refused to upgrade too23:42
lonejackPollywog, I checked, not installed. Somebody told me it's preferable to install ubuntu and then Kubuntu...23:42
Pollywoglonejack: yes that is true, it sometimes works better to install Ubuntu first23:43
lonejackPollywog, ok. bye23:43
Pollywogtry apt-get first23:44
Pollywoginstead of adept23:44
postgin line 3: Setting up eieio (1:1.0pre4-2) .23:44
Pollywogbefore you try a reinstall23:44
postgit was eieio error23:44
Pollywogpostg: before upgrading to Gutsy, did you update your Feisty system?23:45
postgPollywog: Yes!23:45
Pollywogk23:45
batis610please help...23:46
postgI updated Feisty system to 7.04 latest, before moving ->71023:46
postgbut now, as you see error occur: http://paste.uni.cc/1783123:46
postgI do follow advice on ubuntu official site on how to upgrade23:47
Pollywogpostg: you might try asking in #ubuntu, maybe someone there knows23:49
zorglu_hmm i havent admin a unix for a long time :)23:49
zorglu_'how to add a user into admin group' <- on a ubuntu  server23:49
postgok23:50
Pollywogadduseradduser <user> <group>23:50
Pollywogadduser <user> <group>23:50
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zorglu_Pollywog: ok thanks23:52
Pollywogfor example: sudo adduser pollywog admin23:52
zorglu_ok i tried to modify /etc/groupsand failed :)23:53
zorglu_but your solution worked, thanks :)23:53
zorglu_i should likely upgrade this box with a desktop :)23:54
zorglu_just for the admin via ssh :)23:54
yoyoHi23:58
yoyoHow do I change the background in Konqueror23:59

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