[00:00] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+f2
[00:02] <tehm0nk-otherpc> same thing as before
[00:02] <tehm0nk-otherpc> about the nvidia module
[00:02] <tehm0nk-otherpc> and i dont see anything above that or below it
[00:03] <tehm0nk-otherpc> it loads the mouse driver then has a line under that with (EE) No Drivers Available
[00:03] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: ah..... you know, try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the nvidia driver.
[00:05] <Schuenemann> if I hit Ctrl + Alt + F2, how do I return to X?
[00:06] <FireCrotch> Schuenemann: ctrl+alt+f7
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: CTrl+alt+f7
[00:06] <Schuenemann> thanks
[00:06] <tehm0nk-otherpc> ok
[00:06] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i had to uninstall nvidia-xconfig
[00:07] <tehm0nk-otherpc> to get it to install but i did that and it's in now
[00:07] <tehm0nk-otherpc> should i just try to reboot?
[00:07] <tehm0nk-otherpc> lol
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: no... did you run that dpkg-reconfigure command?
[00:07] <tehm0nk-otherpc> whoops
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i ran startx and it booted up
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> lol
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: lol... whatever :D
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> well
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: then don't bother.
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> this still doesn't fix anything tho
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> cause
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i dont know how to configure my video cardS without killing it haha
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i wanna get both my monitors working
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> thats my goal today
[00:08] <tehm0nk-otherpc> :(
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: thats not TOO hard... ust remember that dpkg-reconfigure command and you can always go back to your original settings
[00:09] <_Sebulba_> I had that same thing with my nvidea 4200 i think in 7.10
[00:09] <tehm0nk> argh
[00:09] <_Sebulba_> nvidea driver works in every other distro except 7.10
[00:10] <tehm0nk> yeah i can't touch anything to do with the drivers without killing the dang xserver
[00:10] <tehm0nk> but nvidia-glx-new are supposed to work right heh
[00:10] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: yeap
[00:10] <tehm0nk> so do any of you run dual monitors?
[00:10] <_Sebulba_> mine works fine without the nvidea driver but i dont use any 3d stuff so i dont really need it
[00:11] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: try using the screens and graphics tool in system settings
[00:11] <tehm0nk> well i want compiz to work lol
[00:11] <tehm0nk> nos i think that is how i messed it up?
[00:11] <_Sebulba_> :( so do I but my ram is borderline and other stuff runs too slow when animation is used
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: nah,compiz won't mess X up
[00:13] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: try a nice reboot to see if everything is working on a reboot, cause I'll probably have to be going soon
[00:13] <tehm0nk> uh
[00:13] <tehm0nk> i dont know what to set in the monitor & dislays to make it work?
[00:14] <tehm0nk> do i need to install anything to make it dual monitor?
[00:14] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: no.
[00:14] <_Sebulba_> dont push the mhz setting too high or you'll blow ur monitor
[00:14] <_Sebulba_> xp has a failsafe
[00:15] <_Sebulba_> not seen any failsafes in linux yet
[00:15] <tehm0nk> lemme try a reboot
[00:15] <tehm0nk> well
[00:15] <tehm0nk> if i try to enable "second screen"
[00:15] <tehm0nk> i can't select anything over 640x480
[00:16] <tehm0nk> and it's not seeing my second monitor
[00:16] <tehm0nk> in the hardware tab
[00:16] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: yeah... do a reboot
[00:16] <tehm0nk> brb hopefully
[00:16] <tehm0nk> lol
[00:18] <nosrednaekim> heh
[00:18] <nosrednaekim> there is alway tehm0nk-otherpc:D
[00:18] <tehm0nk-otherpc> ok uh
[00:18] <tehm0nk-otherpc> this is jacked up
[00:18] <tehm0nk-otherpc> haha
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> it rebooted
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> and i dont think it got stuck where it did
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> but i think it's stuck...
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> and there is no text
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> or anything
[00:19] <nosrednaekim> sooo... where is it stuck?
[00:19] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+f1
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> nothing but an nvidia logo really big on the screen
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> ...
[00:19] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> dude
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i mean that is just the icing on the cake man
[00:19] <tehm0nk-otherpc> LoL
[00:20] <nosrednaekim> heh
[00:20] <tehm0nk-otherpc> kinda like an in your face... HAHA
[00:20] <nosrednaekim> does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[00:20] <mot> haaaaaaaah
[00:21] <tehm0nk-otherpc> no
[00:21] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: no? haha, wow. umm
[00:22] <nosrednaekim> next time you reboot, remove one of the monitors.
[00:22] <acee1234> anyone familiar with kdmtheme? every time i try to install something i getting "the file is not a valid kdm archive"
[00:22] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: it probably isn't;)
[00:22] <acee1234> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26718
[00:22] <sonhouse> hi
[00:23] <acee1234> thats the file
[00:24] <tehm0nk-otherpc> reinstalled nvidia-glx-new
[00:24] <tehm0nk-otherpc> rebooting heh
[00:24] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: take out one of your monitors.
[00:25] <acee1234> what is the proper extension for a kdm file?
[00:26] <tehm0nk-otherpc> ok rebooting with 1 now
[00:26] <sonhouse> 1
[00:27] <tehm0nk-otherpc> course i get nothin cause
[00:27] <tehm0nk-otherpc> lemme switch which one is plugged in
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: no nvidia screen?
[00:27] <tehm0nk-otherpc> i dont know why but as i said earlier...
[00:27] <tehm0nk-otherpc> it starts to boot on one screen then switched to the other
[00:27] <acee1234> anyone know the prper extension of a kdm theme?
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: .tgz
[00:27] <tehm0nk-otherpc> it did all the outputs on the right screen then nvidia logo on the other after ...
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: yeah, well, if you can get to the command line we are going to get rid of those drivers and start over doing this the right way
[00:29] <tehm0nk-otherpc> LOL omg
[00:29] <tehm0nk-otherpc> this is so weird
[00:30] <tehm0nk-otherpc> so it didn't even turn the monitor on until the nvidia screen, and then the login screen
[00:30] <tehm0nk-otherpc> but i can log in there now..
[00:30] <tehm0nk-otherpc> having fun yet ?
[00:30] <nosrednaekim> haha
[00:30] <Minataku> Well, X and the kernel use two different video drivers
[00:30] <Minataku> Well, they CAN
[00:31] <Minataku> My system uses the X11 trident driver for video, but the kernel's tridentfb driver doesn't work
[00:31] <Minataku> So I use vesafb instead
[00:31] <Minataku> In theory, if I used tridentfb and X11 trident, X11 would work while the kernel wouldn't
[00:32] <acee1234> ok i added the kdm theme it didnt reject the file but it didnt add it as an option ideas?
[00:32] <Minataku> Though it usually doesn't work like that
[00:32] <Minataku> lol
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: so its working?
[00:33] <tehm0nk> ok
[00:33] <tehm0nk> so now what lol
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: well, MUST you have two monitors?
[00:33] <tehm0nk> Yes.
[00:34] <tehm0nk> why would i have... 400 dollars extra in a second videocard and monitor if i didn't think i needed it lol
[00:34] <tehm0nk> :-D
[00:34] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: ya know, in Linux, there are such things as "virtual desktops
[00:34] <tehm0nk> yes i knwo
[00:34] <nosrednaekim> try using linux for a while with one monitor
[00:34] <tehm0nk> it'd be nice to have 2 desktops tho too
[00:35] <tehm0nk> and it would really be nice if i could get it to stay on One monitor...
[00:35] <tehm0nk> cause you know i can't get into the prompt or recovery cause that one stays on the Other monitor...
[00:35] <tehm0nk> lol
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: haha
[00:36] <tehm0nk> so... i'm gonna try to restart the x server...
[00:36] <tehm0nk> if that dont work i'm just gonna reboot i guess...
[00:36] <tehm0nk> brb
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[00:37] <Minataku> lol
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> lol
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> well
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> heh
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> that ws insteresting
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> it did the first error again
[00:39] <su-hoens`r1> can someone help me install q3?
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> so i reinstalled the nvidia driver again
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> then hit startx
[00:39] <tehm0nk-otherpc> and it worked...
[00:40] <tehm0nk> and now it's all on the Right monitor
[00:40] <Nvrnight> anyone know where I can get some instructions on compiling a non-standard file?
[00:40] <tehm0nk> which is nice lol
[00:40] <DeadJones> what are you trying to compile?
[00:41] <Nvrnight> klassmodeler-0.8.bin.tgz
[00:41] <tehm0nk> ok one more try at 2 monitors...
[00:41] <tehm0nk> heh
[00:41] <DeadJones> gotta uncompress the tgz first
[00:42] <Minataku> !compile
[00:42] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:43] <Nvrnight> ty minataku
[00:43] <Nvrnight> btw I fixed my problem I had a couple weeks ago with my screen going off after it would load to 100%
[00:43] <Minataku> np, Nvrnight
[00:43] <Nvrnight> was a problem with my ati card, had to go to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it to vesa driver
[00:44] <Nvrnight> just incase you wanted to know
[00:44] <DeadJones> ewww ati
[00:44] <DeadJones> nix + ati = disaster waiting to happen
[00:45] <tehm0nk-otherpc> Yah, no go
[00:45] <acee1234> what channel is best to discus kdm?
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> here
[00:45] <tehm0nk-otherpc> got the first error
[00:45] <tehm0nk-otherpc> then i reinstalled nvidia-glx-new
[00:45] <tehm0nk-otherpc> then i ran startx
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk-otherpc: and...
[00:46] <tehm0nk-otherpc> and i got the xserver error
[00:46] <tehm0nk-otherpc> just like before
[00:46] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: ok, i when i install a kdm theme it does not show up as a new option whats going on there?
[00:46] <Minataku> tehm0nk-otherpc: When you're typing a single thought, hit enter AFTER you're done typing all of it
[00:46] <Minataku> lol
[00:46] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: that module is buggy, I never could get it working predictably
[00:47] <su-hoens`r1> can someone help me install quake3.... when i try i get the following error from the installer: This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_64
[00:47] <tehm0nk-otherpc> Minataku: sure thing buddy
[00:47] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: so manual install?
[00:47] <Minataku> Thanks
[00:47] <Minataku> lol
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: I have no clue ho to even do that
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> su-hoens`r1: just what it said... no x86_64 support
[00:48] <su-hoens`r1> nosrednaekim: what does that have to do with my question
[00:48] <Minataku> su-hoens`r1: It means it's not going to work.
[00:48] <Minataku> Period.
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> su-hoens`r1: it means you need to run either i386 or ina chroot environment
[00:49] <Minataku> Can you do that? x32 libs in a chroot on an x64 machine?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: yeah
[00:49] <Minataku> Hm, I didn't know that.
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> !autolib
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autolib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> !autolibs
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autolibs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> there is a tool to do it
[00:50] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: If the factoid was even remotely useful, it was deleted
[00:50] <Minataku> :P
[00:50] <Minataku> They did that to my !xrandr as well
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> heh
[00:50] <Minataku> I used that all the time
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: redo it
[00:51] <Minataku> Nah, I'm sure it'll get rejected
[00:51] <Minataku> It was, I assume, folded into a less intuitive !resolution
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> ah
[00:51] <Minataku> Where I have to specifically tell them which link to choose
[00:53] <tehm0nk-otherpc> dpkg -l | more | grub?grab?grumble? i forgot what it what...
[00:53] <tehm0nk-otherpc> *what is was
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> grep?
[00:57] <Pieman> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[00:57] <Minataku> Haha, real nice
[00:57] <Minataku> Tie a whole bunch into one
[00:57] <Minataku> Multithreaded assholery
[00:57] <Minataku> lol
[00:58] <Minataku> Uh, LjL
[00:58]  * Minataku sighs
[00:59] <Minataku> UH
[00:59] <Minataku> Why did you just unban the guy who used the exploit!?
[00:59] <LjL> Minataku, why does that concern you?
[01:01] <david__> google
[01:01] <david__> hey
[01:01] <david__> whats goin on
[01:01] <Nvrnight> Anyone know of any free software that can be used on Ubuntu to create UML charts?
[01:01] <LjL> !info umbrello | Nvrnight
[01:01] <ubotu> nvrnight: umbrello: UML modelling tool and code generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2083 kB, installed size 5648 kB
[01:02] <Nvrnight> ty
[01:03] <pacman> how do I turn a .daa into a .iso
[01:03] <Minataku> LjL: Excuse me for caring about the users of the channel.
[01:04] <LjL> Minataku, a ban may be done by mistake. but *removing* a ban is hardly done by mistake.
[01:05] <Minataku> Which is why my mind was boggling at why it was done
[01:05] <jhutchins> bans should be used sparingly.
[01:08] <maninder> i installed compiz and i restarted the settings didnt save
[01:08] <maninder> so how do i make compiz wok again
[01:08] <maninder> emerald --replaceÉ
[01:09] <maninder> work*
[01:14] <maninder> any help hereÉ
[01:14] <flaccid_> !ask
[01:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <flaccid_> oh you already did
[01:14] <flaccid_> maninder: compiz --replace
[01:14] <flaccid_> to go back use kwin --replace
[01:15] <LjL> Minataku: that guy was k-lined, that's why
[01:15] <Minataku> Okay
[01:15] <flaccid_> fair enough
[01:15] <Minataku> That's a good reason
[01:15] <Minataku> lol
[01:15] <Minataku> Sorry, LjL
[01:15] <maninder> kwin --replace
[01:15] <maninder> doesnt work
[01:16] <flaccid_> come to help today LjL :)
[01:16] <flaccid_> !doesntwork
[01:16] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:16] <maninder> what shall i doÉ
[01:16] <LjL> help with compiz? no thanks :P
[01:16] <flaccid_> haha
[01:16] <maninder> hurry hurry
[01:16] <maninder> i need help
[01:16] <maninder> :(
[01:16] <maninder> how do i fix compiz
[01:17] <maninder> i tried emerald --replace
[01:18] <maninder> hello
[01:18] <maninder> lol this is dead
[01:19] <flaccid_> no you are not listening maninder
[01:19] <maninder> tell me
[01:19] <flaccid_> what is the output from compiz --replace
[01:19] <maninder> what command to type on konsole
[01:19] <maninder> its in my settings folder
[01:19] <flaccid_> you can't just say it doesnt' work. there i likely a reason why it is not working. it doesn't fix itself
[01:20] <flaccid_> i=is
[01:20] <maninder> lol
[01:20] <maninder> long story short
[01:20] <maninder> what do i type
[01:20] <maninder> insall compiz
[01:20] <maninder> install
[01:21] <flaccid_> !compiz | maninder
[01:21] <ubotu> maninder: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:21] <flaccid_> depends on ubuntu version
[01:21] <flaccid_> you might also want to detailed help in #compiz-fusion
[01:23] <flaccid_> please pastebin the output maninder
[01:30] <flaccid_> anyone know how to change alt + tab behaviour - i didn't even have a popup showing the windows when i press alt tab and it tabs in a weird order
[01:31] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, I use that compiz plugin for mine
[01:33] <mox69__> flaccid: hold down alt, then press tab, but keep hold down alt, the window should pop up...
[01:42] <tandat> how can i remote desktop from kubuntu?
[01:42] <ardchoille> tandat: kmenu > internet > krdc
[01:44] <tandat> thank, i will try it
[01:48] <flaccid> mox69__: thats my point. it doesnt.
[01:48] <flaccid> really annoying it is
[01:48] <flaccid> fresh gutsy install to it was
[01:58] <mox69__> flaccid: maybe the alt key on yer keyboard was broken :)
[02:00] <flaccid> then it wouldn't work at all
[02:00] <flaccid> i reckon problem is ubuntu or kde. thing is kde seems way more buggy on ubuntu. i never get issues like this on freebsd
[02:04] <flaccid> ah fixed
[02:04] <flaccid> its in Window Behaviour
[02:06] <flaccid> glad that is fixed
[02:12] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[02:14] <maninder> i installed m player
[02:14] <maninder> but the dvd wont play
[02:15] <Creatur> maninder: Tried with VLC ?
[02:15] <Creatur> I usually have more success with that one.
[02:15] <sub[t]rnl> Make sure you have support for dvd playback
[02:15] <sub[t]rnl> a good package to install is kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:15] <brad__> hey
[02:16] <brad__> i'm having some trouble with flash on kubuntu 64bit
[02:16] <brad__> gutsy
[02:16] <brad__> and its been working for months and suddenly is messing up and not really working
[02:17] <sub[t]rnl> brad__: what browser are you using?
[02:19] <brad__> I'm using konqueror...and it was working up to today though firefox had been having problems with it
[02:19] <brad__> and I unisntalled and reinstalled some things and it briefly worked on firefox but wont now
[02:19] <brad__> firefox LOVES to freeze
[02:19] <brad__> and has been like this for a few weeks but I generally only use it when something wont work on konq
[02:19] <sub[t]rnl> yeah it does
[02:20] <brad__> but on konqeuror generally just the flash area is frozen, on firefox the whole browser freezes
[02:20] <brad__> and it just kind of stopped working out of nowhere today and I've already reset etc
[02:22] <Zok|> guys, I need lil help .. I got new, fresh installed Kubuntu distribution, and I can't "./configure" anything :/ .. I got error message: Can't find X libraries
[02:22] <sub[t]rnl> brad__: have you reinstalled the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[02:22] <Zok|> any help how to fix it? :S
[02:22] <ardchoille> Zok|: What are you compiling? And did you install build-essential?
[02:23] <Zok|> ardchoille yes, I'm trying to install amarok, but it doesn't matter what I try, at all I got that error
[02:24] <ardchoille> Zok|: You should already have amarok installed
[02:24] <Zok|> ardchoille, yes but I got some errors, and I want to recompile
[02:24] <brad__> sub[t]rnl: yes I reinstalled and it did nothing
[02:24] <Zok|> and nothing else I can't compile :S
[02:25] <ardchoille> Zok|: What are the errors with your current amarok? It might be possible to fix them instead of compiling
[02:26] <ardchoille> Zok|: Did you install build-essential?
[02:27] <Zok|> ardchoille, I cannot isntall mp3 support .. when I click yes at question, amarok were asking to restart the program to work fine .. but after restarting it, still doesn't have mp3 support
[02:27] <Zok|> ardchoille yes
[02:28] <brad__> bear in mind I am on 64bit
[02:28] <ardchoille> Zok|: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:28] <ardchoille> Zok|: Then try restarting amarok and see if the mp3 support works
[02:29] <Zok|> ardchoille, it's okay about amarok, I'll fix him latter, can u help me with this "X libraries" ?
[02:30] <SanityInAnarchy> I just got an Apple keyboard, looking to swap command and alt. Google is giving me a bit too much; any idea where to start?
[02:31] <ardchoille> Zok|: Sounds like you need development libraries for xorg. Try sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[02:31] <jorge__> Just a quike.... Anyone know how I can enable my slave HDD (FAT) to be writeable?
[02:32] <jorge__> I c an't delete/save stuff to my FAT slave HDD...
[02:32] <ardchoille> jorge__: Check the permissions on the mount point
[02:33] <jorge__> I can't cuz only root has permissions to change them...
[02:33] <acee1234> what file in kdm file dictates the positions of the different buttons and fields?
[02:33] <jorge__> And I don't know how to change it...
[02:33] <ardchoille> jorge__: Therein lies the answer to your problem.
[02:33] <jorge__> So, how do I change it?
[02:33] <jorge__> I've tried the properties thingy
[02:33] <jorge__> just changed back
[02:34] <ardchoille> jorge__: ls -l /path/to/mountpoint
[02:34] <jorge__> ?
[02:35] <jorge__> So, it says root owns it.
[02:35] <jorge__> How do I chnage it?
[02:35] <ardchoille> jorge__: You wan to change the owner:group?
[02:36] <jorge__> yeah
[02:36] <jorge__> I want to own it.
[02:36] <brad__> so does anyone think they can help me with my flash going to hell?
[02:36] <voline> fat discs don't do permissions
[02:36] <ardchoille> jorge__: sudo chown -R $(whoami) /path/mountpoint
[02:37] <ardchoille> voline: No, but the mount point in Linux does
[02:38] <mr_garrapata> Sorry, I killed the x11...
[02:38] <voline> you need a line analogous to this one in /etc/fstab
[02:38] <voline> /dev/sde5		/mnt/seagatemp2		vfat	uid=500,gid=500		0 0
[02:38] <mr_garrapata> So, how do I change my permissions?
[02:38] <mr_garrapata> I can't from kcontrol :(
[02:38] <voline> the necessary changes being made
[02:39] <mr_garrapata> ?
[02:39] <mr_garrapata> I'm lost...
[02:40] <Zombie> Alright I have an issue wth Ubuntu joining my Domain.
[02:41] <Zombie> This is probably why my initial upgrade failed.
[02:41] <Zombie> Ubuntu locks up if it cannot find my Domain Controller.
[02:44] <maninder> my keyboard is acting weird how do i set it up
[02:44] <maninder> can i get the drievr for it
[02:46] <ChaosMachine> maninder, your going to need to be a little more specific than 'weird'
[02:49] <Jay-Oh-En> how come my internet
[02:49] <Jay-Oh-En> is so slow
[02:50] <flaccid> how slow is it
[02:50] <flaccid> is it slower than mine
[02:50] <Dr_willis> 'its sooooooooooooo slow.......'
[02:51] <Dr_willis>  :)
[02:51] <flaccid> its all relative
[02:51] <maninder> well my keybord doesnt let me type proper like when i do question mark i get thisÉ
[02:51] <flaccid> you could hire a network engineer to find the bottleneck
[02:51] <maninder> how do i fix itÉ
[02:51] <Dr_willis> ÉÉÉÉ???
[02:51] <Dr_willis> hmm
[02:51] <maninder> ye
[02:51] <maninder> any fixes
[02:52] <maninder> i could od
[02:52] <maninder> do*
[02:52] <Dr_willis> what language are you using for the system?
[02:52] <maninder> how do i check that
[02:52] <maninder> like i cant even type at in my e-mail adress
[02:52] <Dr_willis> No idea. I always use the defaults. :) english
[02:52] <maninder> so i cant even log into msn
[02:52] <maninder> how do i change it
[02:53] <Dr_willis> What language are you supposed to be using? Englush? german? Dutch? swahilli?
[02:56] <maninder> english
[02:56] <maninder> i fixed it
[02:56] <maninder> shoudl i restart and see if it changed
[03:07] <NickPresta> i love these
[03:14] <dwidmann> I'vvvvvvvvvvve got a quick question ...... I'm getting a seemingly strange behaviour from xbindkeys ..... it's like it's running the commands twice ..
[03:15] <level1> Has anyone here every successfully gotten a persistent usb installation?  What tutorial (if any) did you use?
[03:16] <CPrgmSwR2> level1 I have with no tutorial
[03:16] <CPrgmSwR2> it just works
[03:17] <level1> CPrgmSwR2: yeah, take you situation, invert it, and that's my situation :/
[03:17] <level1> CPrgmSwR2: how did you do it?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> eleven magic!
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Elfen :)
[03:20] <level1> elven?
[03:21] <level1> I don't know why, but persistant usb installs fail 100% of the time for me.  I've been trying for well over a year now
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Little Linux Elfs spreading Joy and GPL to all good boys and girls.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:22] <level1> Dr_willis: I must not have been good this year :)
[03:22] <Dr_willis> ubuntu really  isent the best live cd disrto out. DSL/Puppy seem a lot better for me  for persistant homes and so forth.
[03:22]  * Dr_willis hands level1  some C.O.A.L Packets
[03:23] <level1> Dr_willis: I have something of a hatred for sub-DE window managers (I think DSL uses fluxbox)
[03:23] <level1> I like kde a lot. If I had to use gnome or xfce, well, I guess it would be okay, but I really don't like WMs
[03:23] <Dr_willis> DSL is now using jwm last i tried it. of course its customizable. :)
[03:24] <Dr_willis> the SLAX live cd - is also very well done.
[03:24] <Dr_willis> But it all depends on your needs.
[03:24] <Dr_willis> Puppy/DSL/Slax - used by me to rescue windows systems a lot and have emergancy 'linux clients' to trouble shoot lans and other things. :)
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Then of course I have GeeXbox on my laptop for video watching and ubuntu as well.
[03:25] <level1> Dr_willis: how is slax?  Is it "hard"?  I'm very lazy, in case your wondering
[03:25] <level1> but I'll give it a try
[03:26] <Dr_willis> Slax is proberly one of the easiest to customize live cds out there. I think they were ven working on having a presistant home, on a ftp server, or some where else on the internet. :)
[03:27] <maninder> any one know how to fix compiz fusion the cube effect?
[03:31] <maninder> any one now how to install compiz fusion?
[03:34] <Minataku> wb
[03:34] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Say, would you by chance be watching Futurama?
[03:34] <Minataku> lol
[03:35] <Dr_willis> nope.. Tokyo Mew Mew. :)
[03:35] <Minataku> :D
[03:35] <Minataku> Is it any good?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Opening a .avi under windows with vlc.. and Vista pops up a dialog about how opening this kind of file may not be safe....
[03:35] <stdin> #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:36]  * Minataku rolls eyes
[03:36] <stdin> Dr_willis: well that's because opening any file in windows isn't safe ;)
[03:36] <Dr_willis> Ive never understood some of these security issues befor.. How can  video file, or jpeg ever be unsafe? i recall hearing about jpeg viruses ages ago.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Signed/pgp/and so forth for executables and such. I understand. but whats the point of a warning,, that has NO alterantives?
[03:37] <stdin> because the windows file preview app runs as a kernel process, so has full access to the system
[03:38] <Minataku> Haha
[03:38] <Dr_willis> Preview? Hmm i got no preview.
[03:38] <Minataku> So much for Vista's security
[03:38] <stdin> that's what happens when you build your file/web browser into the kernel
[03:38] <Minataku> BTW, stdin...
[03:38] <Minataku> TAKE IT TO OFFTOPIC
[03:38] <stdin> Minataku: yes, I know :)
[03:38] <Minataku> Vista != Kubuntu
[03:38]  * Minataku cackles maniacally
[03:38] <Minataku> XD
[03:38] <Minataku> Sorry. I couldn't resist.
[03:38] <Minataku> :)
[03:38] <stdin> don't blame you for that one :)
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Ive also wonderd speaking of Prevews.. Gnome can show previews of avi, and .divx files for me.. but not seen Konqueror do that.
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Can IT do that? or have i missed a setting somewhere.
[03:40]  * Dr_willis notices his vista warning only comes from when he loads the file over the samba share..not if the identical file is stored locally.. so it seems that 'anything on a share' gets a warning... and only THEN if you 'right click' and open with.. somthing other then the default app...
[03:40] <Minataku> Haha
[03:41] <Minataku> Kinda like how Apple makes anything that they didn't make suck on OSX
[03:41] <Minataku> Don't believe me? Try Firefox or Opera.
[03:41]  * Dr_willis wonders who gets paid to come up with this stuff.. I mean there are 'security' experts out there that  are working for  these big companies?
[03:41]  * Dr_willis files a Class Action Law Suit Against Apple.. for... well.. anything.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> can konqueror show avi previews/thumbnails? i still cant figure that out.
[03:42] <flaccid> um not really, apple didn't develop firefox or opera
[03:43] <Minataku> Explain why perfectly good programs suddenly run like crap under OSX, then.
[03:43] <Dr_willis> since when did logic matter in law suits?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:43] <Minataku> Apple loves their closed little box
[03:43] <Minataku> They want ultimate control over everything
[03:43] <flaccid> because the developers of the programs
[03:43] <Minataku> Remember OpenDarwin? Neither does anyone else.
[03:43] <flaccid> if you can cite something specific, Minataku you may have an argument
[03:43] <ardchoille> Please take the apple/OSX chat to off-topic
[03:43] <stdin> ok, this time it should be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <Minataku> lol
[03:44] <Minataku> Sorry.
[03:44] <Minataku> XD
[03:44] <flaccid> code base is dif so why would you compare apples with bananas . anyway yeah OT
[03:44] <meuhlol> ???
[03:45] <meuhlol> cherry is better :p
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Its all BSD!
[03:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:45]  * Dr_willis is reminded of a PC gamers mag. that referrd to OS-X as "BSDLinux"
[03:45] <Minataku> Actually, no
[03:45] <Minataku> Darwin is a Mach kernel with FreeBSD userland and NeXTSTEP GUI.
[03:45] <Minataku> Well, actually, the GUI is only OSX
[03:46] <Minataku> OSX, BTW, not an operating system
[03:46]  * stdin silently points at #kubuntu-offtopic while looking at Minataku and Dr_willis
[03:46] <Minataku> OSX is a Darwin distribution
[03:46]  * Dr_willis jabbers on about GnuStep
[03:46]  * Jay-Oh-En knows if it was me he would shout "Go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:46] <Dr_willis> wmakerbuntu? :) Whats the current cound of Ubuntu variants now?
[03:47] <Jay-Oh-En> anyways can somebody help me with installing bootsplashes? pwetty pwease
[03:48] <Minataku> Sorry, BTW. Again.
[03:48] <Minataku> I just had to set the facts straight.
[03:48] <Minataku> :P
[03:48] <Jay-Oh-En> anyways can somebody help me with installing bootsplashes? pwetty pwease Edit: and a grub bootscreen also :]
[03:48] <Dr_willis> I alwys disable that icky eyecandy. :)
[03:49] <meuhlol> grub bootscreen virgin is better :p
[03:50] <Minataku> Heh, watch out with GRUB bootscreens, though
[03:50] <Minataku> If it breaks, you won't be able to see anything
[03:50] <Minataku> lol
[03:50] <meuhlol> ahahaha
[03:50] <meuhlol> so let it be virgin :p
[03:50] <meuhlol> it's much pretty cool :p
[03:51] <stdin> Jay-Oh-En: "apt-get install kubuntu-grub-splashimages" and add "splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/(splash image you want).gz" to your menu.lst
[03:51] <Jay-Oh-En> meuhlol: well what about bootsplashes :(
[03:51] <Jay-Oh-En> and hanks stdin i luh you
[03:51] <meuhlol> an dude, (from windoze land) come one day to my home and ask me: "what the hell? what you hack there?!" my answer "nothing, i just updating some packages :D
[03:52] <bobesponja> does this site make your konquror crash http://site.on.nimp.org ?
[03:52] <meuhlol> huh Jay-Oh-En ask someone other, i'm bored to repair Acer Aspire laptop lol HDD or CDRom drive would work correctly... 1hour to reinstall windows in it. And now CD drive told me an secret "cyclic error" muhaha
[03:53] <Jay-Oh-En> meuhlol: ew windows :[
[03:54] <meuhlol> not for me
[03:54] <Jay-Oh-En> i like it too
[03:54] <Jay-Oh-En> but not for my system
[03:54] <meuhlol> for my ex girlfriend :)
[03:54] <Jay-Oh-En> i like it for other people
[03:54] <meuhlol> it's her laptop
[03:54] <Jay-Oh-En> its easier for me to fix
[03:54] <meuhlol> this *bip* of laptop was in technical service 3 times, and last time guaranty is finished :D
[03:55] <meuhlol> 1 time motherboard changed & CDRom drive, 2nd time HDD & CDRom, 3rd time HDD drive...
[03:56] <Dr_willis> so the only original part left is the mouse?
[03:56] <meuhlol> lol
[03:56] <Minataku> XD
[03:56] <Minataku> The screen sounds original
[03:57] <meuhlol> yep, wifi & ethernet too, modem too, huh keyboard too, ram the same, pros the same and and and... Acer signal-up xD
[03:57] <Minataku> Heh
[03:57] <meuhlol> fu*bip* antena :D
[03:57] <Minataku> I wonder if Acer and Acer Labs Inc. are ==
[03:57] <poeticrpm_> By the way.. kudos to the kubuntu community- 7.10 was a major improvement.. im glad its gotten so much more stable (kde 3.5.8 helps here too)
[03:57] <Minataku> Because ALi hardware is excellent
[03:58] <Minataku> But Acer laptops are pretty dismal.
[03:58] <Minataku> I think they're definitely separate.
[03:58] <meuhlol> I give my preference to Fujitsu Siemens & Asus :)
[03:58] <Minataku> Toshiba. No question.
[03:58] <Minataku> Best laptops money can buy.
[03:58] <meuhlol> Toshiba = recycle bin
[03:58] <Minataku> They earn _MY_ highest recommendations
[03:59] <Minataku> And I don't like a lot of things.
[03:59] <meuhlol> HP too
[03:59] <Minataku> Just ask around.
[03:59] <Minataku> No, Toshibas are the best laptops, nay, the best PCs one can purchase.
[03:59] <meuhlol> My 3 friends who bought HP Pavillion series, all of them haven't always problems xD
[03:59] <Minataku> I should know. I have four of them.
[03:59] <Minataku> From 2003 to 1987.
[03:59] <Minataku> My main system, Piyoko, is a Toshiba laptop
[03:59] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #2 PREEMPT Mon Sep 3 21:53:19 EDT 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[03:59] <meuhlol> me don't like much toshibas
[03:59] <Minataku>  22:59:47 up 78 days, 10:15,  6 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.01
[04:00] <Minataku> And the record is 98 days greater than the current
[04:00] <Minataku> lol
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Seen several toshiba laptops at work with nasty over heating problkems..
[04:00] <Minataku> 0 problems.
[04:00] <maninder> i installed compiz fusion how do i open it?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[04:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:00] <Minataku> And the headaches that come with eating too much eyecandy.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> be sure you got all the bits installed you need. and run 'compiz --replace' and 'emerald --replace' to test.
[04:00] <Minataku> Or something.
[04:00] <Minataku> lol
[04:01] <Dr_willis> install the ccsm tool also.,
[04:01] <maninder> IDENTIFY <superman101>
[04:01] <Minataku> 0
[04:01] <Minataku> Uh oh
[04:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:01] <Minataku> Change your password
[04:01] <meuhlol> lol
[04:01] <maninder> lolz
[04:01] <meuhlol> self owned :p
[04:01]  * Dr_willis gets out the Kyrptonite.
[04:02] <maninder> i need help with startcompiz
[04:02] <Minataku> Either it wasn't his password, or Freenode (or at least #kubuntu) users are very well behaved.
[04:02] <Minataku> lol
[04:02] <maninder> how do i run compiz fusion
[04:02] <meuhlol> oooooooh noooooooo
[04:02] <Dr_willis> be sure you got all the bits installed you need. and run 'compiz --replace' and 'emerald --replace' to test.
[04:02] <Minataku> Anywhere else and he'd have been ghosted by now.
[04:02] <meuhlol> god damn it... my last cigaret :(
[04:02] <Dr_willis> The Compiz wiki page posted mentiones  all this.
[04:02] <poeticrpm_> maninder.. you have it installed and do you have video drivers installed?
[04:03] <maninder> i have ati grapgics card
[04:03] <Minataku> Compiz users. The new AOL users.
[04:03] <Minataku> :P
[04:03] <Minataku> j/k
[04:03] <Minataku> XD
[04:03] <meuhlol> lol
[04:03] <Dr_willis> ati? ICK..
[04:03] <Dr_willis> id give up now.
[04:03] <ardchoille> !language | meuhlol
[04:03] <ubotu> meuhlol: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:03] <maninder> i want that cube effect
[04:03] <maninder> any way how i can get it
[04:04] <Dr_willis> the things people will do for useless eye candy. :) and the cube is proberly the most useless feature of compiz.
[04:04] <maninder> lol
[04:04] <maninder> still
[04:04] <maninder> i wana know
[04:04] <Minataku> So useless
[04:04] <maninder> how to use it
[04:04] <Dr_willis> check the !compiz wiki page. theres proberly some extra work to do ti get it working with ati cards.,
[04:04] <poeticrpm_> post the results of glxinfo in a pastebin
[04:04] <bazhang> maninder: there is a channel dedicated to questions such as that: #compiz-fusion
[04:04] <Minataku> When a simple L/R flipper will accomplish the same, much faster, much easier AND with more capability.
[04:05] <Minataku> With a spinning cube, you're limited to the number of sides a cube has in the number of virtual desktops you have
[04:05] <Minataku> You may as well have 0.
[04:05] <Minataku> :P
[04:05] <maninder> lolzz
[04:05] <maninder> you know the number of desk tops
[04:05] <Minataku> ...
[04:05] <maninder> i have it set to one
[04:05] <maninder> but yet i still see 4
[04:05] <maninder> they dont even work
[04:05] <maninder> only 1 does
[04:05] <Minataku> I was hoping you knew that a cube has 6 sides, but maybe Compiz users ARE the new AOL users. :P
[04:06] <Dr_willis> You MUST use the ccsm tool to set the # Of desktops
[04:06] <Minataku> j/k
[04:06] <Minataku> lol
[04:06]  * Dr_willis uses 12 sides.. so he has a hexiapentagram
[04:06] <Minataku> 0 desktops.
[04:06] <maninder> lolz
[04:06] <maninder> i think the cubes sick
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Heptigram
[04:06] <maninder> for linux
[04:06] <Minataku> That would be interesting. Or just a blank screen.
[04:06] <maninder> it seperates it from windows and apple
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Not really. :)
[04:07] <maduser> everytime i play frets on fire the stage lights flash too bright
[04:07] <acee1234> anyone know how to get sensors working on a dell e1505 with 7.10 and ls_sensors?
[04:07]  * Dr_willis will be glad when this compiz cube fetish passes..
[04:07] <Minataku> maduser: You've got a guitar. Smash them out.
[04:07] <Minataku> :D
[04:07] <maduser> ...............
[04:07] <Minataku> Then stage dive off an amp
[04:08] <Minataku> I'm making jokes, BTW.
[04:08] <Minataku> :P
[04:08] <Minataku> As for your question, this isn't the place for it.
[04:08]  * Dr_willis jamms to Kenny G.
[04:08] <acee1234> where is
[04:08] <Wanderer> Can anyone tell me how to turn on multiple desktops in kde4 ?
[04:09]  * Minataku shakes head
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Wanderer,  if using Compiz, you must enable them with the CCSM tool. under the general tab/settings area
[04:09] <Wanderer> and I can't turn on the desktop affects, it says I don't have XComposite and XDamage even though I have them installed
[04:09] <Minataku> acee1234: I wasn't talking to you
[04:09] <Minataku> I can't answer your question though
[04:09] <Minataku> !sensors
[04:09] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:09] <Minataku> Try that link, acee1234
[04:09] <Dr_willis> What video card Wanderer ?
[04:09] <Wanderer> Dr_willis, is ccsm in the system menu somewhere or do I ahve to do it from a term?
[04:09] <Minataku> Personally, I'm surprised there was a factoid for that.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> i always run it from the terminal.. who knows where they got it hidden. :)
[04:10] <Minataku> Though the bot doesn't seem to confident about it's usefulness.
[04:10] <Minataku> lol
[04:10] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:10] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:10] <Wanderer> Dr_willis: ATI Radeon 1400
[04:10] <Wanderer> thanks
[04:10] <Dr_willis> the !compiz factoid page has some info on ccsm and compiz thats worth reading
[04:10] <Dr_willis> good luck with an ATI card.
[04:10] <Wanderer> I got compiz working in kde3 with it
[04:10] <Minataku> ATI personally hates anyone who doesn't use Windows.
[04:10] <Wanderer> It's a laptop, can't change it
[04:11] <holycow> well they did release full specs of everything but the drm units
[04:11] <maduser> You can change a labtops card
[04:11] <holycow> so its not quite so simple any more
[04:11] <maduser> its just a bitch to do so
[04:11] <holycow> we can now write our own ... maybe
[04:11] <Dr_willis> i got a x200m in my laptop. I dont even attempt compiuz with it. :)
[04:11] <Minataku> Should've made a smarter purchasing decision, then.
[04:12] <Wanderer> hmm, no compiz in appearance properties
[04:12] <neville> -_-v
[04:12] <Minataku> holycow: Right, the parts that are needed for all this bullcrap.
[04:12] <Wanderer> looks like something isn't quite right
[04:12] <Minataku> Thanks, AMD. You release the most useless parts of the specification, and that's supposed to make us happy?
[04:12] <Minataku> Sorry, I'll try to calm down.
[04:13] <poeticrpm_> you mean for the new ati drivers?
[04:13] <Minataku> I have zero patience for idiotic proprietarism.
[04:13] <Minataku> 0.
[04:13]  * Dr_willis gives Minataku  a prozak
[04:13]  * Minataku refuses it
[04:13] <Minataku> lol
[04:13] <Minataku> I only take what's perscribed to me
[04:13]  * Dr_willis gives sticks 2 prozaks in Minataku's nostrals.
[04:13]  * Minataku fires them out
[04:13] <Minataku> Please, don't do that
[04:13] <Dr_willis> take 2 of these and if you live through the night - call me in the morning.,..
[04:13] <Minataku> I don't find it funny.
[04:14] <NoiseBOX> Perhaps someone could tell me. Why is it that modules i've added to the modprobe.conf/blacklist are still getting loaded on reboot? And if the blacklist doesn't work, where else can i turn to solve this problem?
[04:14]  * Minataku throws them in the trash
[04:14] <Dr_willis> what modules NoiseBOX ? you sure ya got the names right>
[04:14] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Please, don't joke with me like that.
[04:14] <Minataku> :P
[04:15]  * Dr_willis is the Dr of  Love and writes  perscriptions. 
[04:15] <Dr_willis> which my wife ignores..
[04:15] <NoiseBOX> Dr_willis: i82875p_edac and edac_mc
[04:15] <Dr_willis> :(
[04:15] <Dr_willis> NoiseBOX,  could go hard core and rename the modules. :(
[04:15] <Minataku> :o
[04:15] <Dr_willis> but its odd that blacklist is ignoring them
[04:15] <Dr_willis> i wonder if somthing else (some other module) is loading them
[04:16] <Minataku> I already take medications for my ADD and OCD
[04:16] <Minataku> :P
[04:16] <Dr_willis> I just have GAS.
[04:16] <NoiseBOX> Dr_willis: yeah the last ditch effort i might have to do that :\
[04:16] <Dr_willis> NoiseBOX,  check the lsmod output - see if they are depending on somthing else.  I wonder how blacklisting handles that.
[04:17] <Minataku> Sorry, I can't handle some things intended as humor due to my OCD.
[04:17] <Minataku> lol
[04:17] <Dr_willis> eat more MSG. :)
[04:17] <NoiseBOX> Dr_willis:  edac_mc depends on i82875p_edac, and that is where it ends i don't need either module for proper function
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Interesting.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> what are these modules for anyway> and why is loading them a problem?
[04:18] <Minataku> Well, loaded but unused modules don't hurt anything
[04:18] <Minataku> And likely the memory they take up is absolutely trivial
[04:19] <Dr_willis> im amazed that linux can proerly load the proper modules..
[04:19] <NoiseBOX> Dr_willis: There is a bug that prevents the radeon drivers on this machine from providing direct rendering because the edac modules prevent intel_agp from binding with the intel_agp properly
[04:19] <Dr_willis> its like magic.
[04:19] <Minataku> !modules
[04:19] <ubotu> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard !kernel, install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see !blacklist
[04:19] <Minataku> Hm
[04:19] <Minataku> !blacklist
[04:19] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[04:19] <Minataku> You've done that, I take it?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i wonder IF they are loading from the initrd...
[04:20] <NoiseBOX> ubotu: my problem is the blacklist file ISN'T preventing them from loading. I'll have to check the init.rd
[04:20] <Dr_willis> well bbl ya all..
[04:21] <NoiseBOX> Minataku: i wouldn't mind the modules there, but it's causing a bug with direct rendering on radeon drivers
[04:22] <Minataku> Right, that's a bit of a problem there
[04:22] <Minataku> lol
[04:22] <Minataku> I can't help you here, sorry
[04:22] <Minataku> NoiseBOX: Hang around, though
[04:22] <NoiseBOX> Minataku: lol, bummer thanks
[04:22] <Minataku> NoiseBOX: I'm sure someone else can.
[04:22] <Minataku> :D
[04:23] <NoiseBOX> How can i check if they're getting loaded during the initrd process? I imagine they're loaded up before th blacklist is even checked
[04:23] <mrdigital> whats a good Site for help moving from Windows to Linux
[04:24] <maduser> site?
[04:24] <maduser> are there any?
[04:24] <maduser> I find linux as a leap of faith
[04:24] <bazhang> mrdigital: like the ubuntu wiki?
[04:24] <Jay-Oh-En> what can i use to unrar
[04:24] <Jay-Oh-En> !rar
[04:24] <Jay-Oh-En> !unrar
[04:25] <Jay-Oh-En> !ping
[04:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:25] <ubotu> pong
[04:25] <bazhang> uhoh
[04:25] <Jay-Oh-En> oh
[04:25] <Jay-Oh-En> there it goes
[04:25] <neville> I've lost my address bar in Konquerer, how do I get it back?
[04:26] <poeticrpm_> settings>toolbars>address bar
[04:28] <neville> ahh
[04:28] <neville> Thanks <3
[04:29] <poeticrpm_> neville- np
[04:35] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make kubuntu start up in silent mode everytime
[04:35] <Jay-Oh-En> and have can i add a background image to it
[04:36] <maduser> to the splash screen or grup screen?
[04:36] <maduser> to the splash screen or grub screen?
[04:37] <Jay-Oh-En> splash
[04:38] <maduser> its very possible
[04:38] <maduser> I changed mine
[04:38] <maduser> go to kde look
[04:38] <maduser> and donload a splash screen
[04:38] <maduser> then install it
[04:38] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: you shouldve said my name before it cause im doing stuff so im constantly looking up in the right corner to check if i got a message on irc
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: i mean make my bootsplash go into silent mode on the startup
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> like this
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/63598-1.jpg
[04:40] <maduser> Ummmm
[04:51] <mikedoty> How do I change resolution
[04:52] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[04:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:53] <mikedoty> Resolution was easy to change in xfce.  I must have had it first in line in my xorg.conf file when I used gnome.  I remember being disappointed that you needed to edit a config file to change your resolution.
[04:54] <Jay-Oh-En> can somebody help me do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg
[04:55] <tazgodx> for some reason when i try to burn my new ubuntu ISo i just d/led K3B tells me taht i need to insert a blank CD-R media
[04:55] <tazgodx> anyone know of this problem?
[04:57]  * Dr_willis perfers a simple config file he can edit.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> If you knew how much of a pain it was say 5+ yrs ago... :)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> if you are just changing the default res for a user. I think thats a per user setting you can set.
[04:58] <mrdigital> Jay-Oh-En: thats effin hot
[04:59] <tazgodx> Jay-Oh-En: if you figure that out, let me know how :)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> thats just a fancy console framebuffer image.
[04:59] <Jay-Oh-En> tazgodx: lol look on kde-look.org under splash screens
[05:03] <tazgodx> anyone have any idea about my K3B problem?
[05:05] <stdin> do you have a blank CD-R in the selected drive?
[05:06] <tazgodx> yeah
[05:06] <tazgodx> i have 2 DVD burners and i tried in both
[05:08] <tazgodx> i really need this burnt, i have another computer sitting here waiting for the install
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[05:09] <Dr_willis> ive seen other mention similer issues.. but not sure what the problem is.
[05:09] <tazgodx> yeah i saw a few posts on the forums, and no solutions posted
[05:09] <Dr_willis> if you insert a blank disk without k3b running, does it pop up any dialogs?
[05:10] <tazgodx> yeah, when i insert a blank disk with K3B open or closed it pops up asking what i want to do with the blank disk. i usually say do nothing
[05:11] <maduser> nothing i install works with winw
[05:11] <maduser> nothing i install works with wine
[05:11] <Dr_willis> maduser,  and what may we ask, have you tried?
[05:11] <holycow> maduser: well why would you expect it to? only select things actually work
[05:12] <maduser> windows media palyer, divx the super conveter half life 2
[05:13] <Dr_willis> well dont expect WMP to ever work, if you are refering to that video converter tool called 'super' Well. you may want to try som eother linux tools.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Halflife/steam i hear can work with wine.
[05:13] <Jay-Oh-En> so nobody knows how to do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg
[05:13] <tazgodx> if your trying super converter, it says on it, won't work with wine
[05:14] <tazgodx> Jay-Oh-En: turn boot screen verbose mode on, however that is done
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  you set up the default framebuffer background using that image.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> !splash
[05:14] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm thats not it...
[05:14] <Dr_willis> !bootsplasy
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplasy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <Dr_willis> !bootsplash
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: and tazgodx no idea how to do either of those but both of those answers are the ones i wanted  :]
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  you got some learning to do then. :)
[05:15] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis:
[05:15] <Jay-Oh-En> im an open book
[05:15] <Jay-Oh-En> teach me! :]
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i forget where that file even is located at. you find it. change it. rerun the tool that regenerates the initrd, i belive
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i normally DISABLE such eyecandy
[05:16] <Dr_willis> that sort of image/framebuffer stuff actually can slow down your console :)
[05:16] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: i just want verbose mode everytime
[05:16] <tazgodx> wow, i just can't take not being able to burn this thing.....
[05:16]  * holycow gets some white out and starts removing a few paragraphs 'creatively'
[05:16] <Dr_willis> verbose mode can be enabled in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:16] <holycow> be careful where you open YOUR book is my motto
[05:16] <holycow> -_-
[05:17] <Dr_willis> in menu.lst
[05:17] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb
[05:17] <Dr_willis> can become other ways like --->  # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb verbose
[05:17] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: what does that enable
[05:17] <Dr_willis> whatever verbose does.. :) Im not sure that verbose is even a proper option.
[05:17] <Jay-Oh-En> verbose?
[05:17] <Jay-Oh-En> oh
[05:17] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ya can try noquiet also.
[05:18] <Jay-Oh-En> well idk either and i dont want grub to get screwed up
[05:18] <Dr_willis> AFTER editing the menu.lst you got to run 'sudo update-grub'
[05:18] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those tools thats worth learning, and learning well.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> learn to backp your originals :)
[05:19] <Jay-Oh-En> cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.backup
[05:19] <maduser> yes i got an emulator foe windows
[05:19] <tehm0nk> !dualhead
[05:19] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:19] <Dr_willis> with a sudo Jay-Oh-En  :)
[05:19] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: but thats right? i feel smart and i know with a sudo
[05:19] <maduser> Is quemu a good program?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> qemu is a useable emulator.. deopends on what you are going to do with it. :)
[05:20] <tehm0nk> Question for the Gamers: Can kubuntu emulate games that are installed in actual windows?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> qemu, vmware, virtualbox,  all have pros/cons
[05:20] <ardchoille> Does qemu also depend on the quality of your hardware to be higher than normal?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> tehm0nk,  with wine, you 'can' run programs that are installed on the windows hard drives.. but i found this can cause problems. Its normally best to reinstall the games with wine on the linux system.
[05:21] <Jay-Oh-En> ugh i wish i knew how to do this :[
[05:21] <tehm0nk> Dr_willis: thank you, i was wondering how that would work, so wow is gonna take up twice as much space...
[05:22] <Dr_willis> qemu i would consider one of the roughest emulators out. compared to vmware/virtualbox.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> tehm0nk,  Or ya install it with wine, then link the installed game dir to the windows one.
[05:22] <Jay-Oh-En> tehm0nk: delete it on windows
[05:22] <Dr_willis> but I dont mess with WoW any more.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> gotta lvoe games that take up 10+GB.. :)
[05:23] <holycow> and you still can't get past level 2
[05:23] <tehm0nk> wait what?
[05:23] <holycow> -_-
[05:23] <tehm0nk> i install to windows partition from wine? lol
[05:23] <holycow> its just a folder in .wine or whatever
[05:24] <holycow> its makes the emulated libraries think they are actually looking at partitions they expect
[05:24] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: would you know how to do this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg
[05:24] <tehm0nk> lol i'm pathetic i'm working on my 3rd 70....
[05:24] <tehm0nk> anyways i had just wondered on that
[05:25] <tehm0nk> anyone Really good with dual monitors?
[05:25] <tehm0nk> i think i'm set on the dual booting part of this...
[05:25] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Looks like the irssi irc client running in konsole while konsole is set to a transparent background, not hard at all
[05:25] <tehm0nk> i'm installing hopefully for the last time
[05:25] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: no its kubuntu starting up
[05:25] <tehm0nk> but who knows how i'm gonna get my second monitor to work without killing it agian...
[05:25] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:25] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: I take that back, that looks lke rkhunter running i a transp konsole
[05:26] <tehm0nk> i need to find someone that has 2 nvidia videocards, and 2 monitors and stick myself to them like glue lol
[05:26] <tehm0nk> and figure out how they did it...
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  you may want to check the ubuntu wikis for the bootsplash/framebuffer docs instead of hopeing someone will join who can walk ya through it.
[05:26] <Zombie> Kubuntu locks up if it cannot find my Domain Controller.
[05:26] <holycow> tehm0nk: i have a dual monitor setup.  do you need an xorg.conf example for an nvidia card setup?
[05:26] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Ah, ok. I don't know how to do that, I dislike eye candy for the grub screen, kind of a waste when I only see the grub screen once every two months
[05:27] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: ok :[
[05:27]  * Jay-Oh-En hopes somebody knows how to do this
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Thats the console framebuffer i belive. Not the Grub menu background.. I think. :) in that image
[05:27] <holycow> Jay-Oh-En: do what?
[05:28] <tehm0nk> holycow: YES
[05:28] <tehm0nk> and if i could spit out my pci info it would be even better lol
[05:28] <tehm0nk> if they could just get one together for me...
[05:28] <tehm0nk> cause i'm a boon.
[05:28] <Jay-Oh-En> holycow: change my startup to look like this http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26409-1.jpg
[05:28] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[05:29] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: your the greatest man!
[05:29] <holycow> tehm0nk: http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  all i did was take 10 sec to google..
[05:29] <tazgodx> Jay-Oh-En: You need to compile youre kernel with fbsplash or bootsplash support and replace Usplash. There is a nice HowTo on ubuntuforums.org. just search for "fbsplash" and there should be a few threads on how to do it. Cant give you a direct link because im having trouble accessing the forum...my internet connection is Slow.
[05:29] <tazgodx> thats from the site
[05:29] <Dr_willis> that page shows how to set the higher res.. Not the image.
[05:30] <tehm0nk> holycow, i'm on the live cd right now
[05:30] <tehm0nk> and UGH i was doing good
[05:30] <tehm0nk> now grub is giving me problems again
[05:30] <holycow> Jay-Oh-En: it's not terribly hard bu tyou haveto know a whole bunch of things.  i don't have instructions on how to set this up
[05:30] <Dr_willis> !fbsplash
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <holycow> tehm0nk: well, backup your xorg, paste mine in there, from command line do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart, that should work i think
[05:31] <holycow> unless you can't change files in the ram disk, i've never tried
[05:31] <tehm0nk> actually everything is mounted
[05:31] <tehm0nk> but...
[05:32] <tehm0nk> i'm screwed again because grub wont install... i dont know what happened i didn't change the partitions, i just installed on them before, i formatted them again in the install process, but it wont go.
[05:32] <holycow> tehm0nk: what?
[05:33] <holycow> you asked for instructions on setting up a dual screen
[05:33] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis / holycow / tazgodx http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178439
[05:33] <holycow> what does THAT have to do with installing ubuntu?
[05:34] <tehm0nk> i can't boot kubuntu unless grub is installed and working right.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  i aint about to even try that silly splash thing.. :) its a huge hassle and it can break/cause other probglems for very little gain
[05:34] <tehm0nk> i was asking about that because i've been trying to get that working for 2 days almost now
[05:34] <tehm0nk> and i had been okay on installing it up until just now
[05:34] <holycow> tehm0nk: if your ubuntu is not booting you have bigger problems than dual monitor setup
[05:34] <tehm0nk> i've reinstalled it twice now...
[05:35] <maduser> My compter is 3 years old will that pose problems for running kubuntu?
[05:35] <tehm0nk> at least twice
[05:35] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: me either god such a simple looking thing takes so much effort to do
[05:35] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: no
[05:35] <tehm0nk> holycow: the ENTIRE reason i've had to reinstall so many times is because of the Nvidia drivers
[05:35] <tehm0nk> i'm on 2 8600 GTs
[05:36] <holycow> what?
[05:36] <holycow> lol
[05:36] <tehm0nk> which need the nvidia-glx-new drivers...
[05:36] <holycow> no you didn't
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  theres a reason such a setup was NOT included by default.
[05:36] <maduser> ati also causes problems
[05:36] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: why?
[05:36] <holycow> well i'll take your word for it, why are you reinstalling?
[05:36] <tehm0nk> either way the drivers get screwed up if i try to change the settings
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  the framebuffer can cause all sorts of little issues. and it can slow down your booting.
[05:36] <tehm0nk> then it wont boot anymore
[05:36] <holycow> you can just go into a terminal and change the nvidia to nv
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Jay-Oh-En,  in some cases it can really conflict with some of the X drivers, depending on the cards/mb/chipsets
[05:37] <tehm0nk> and i was installing cause i couldn't figure out how to fix the drivers again
[05:37] <holycow> oh your stystem stops booting after installing nvidia-glx?
[05:37] <maduser> I might change distros
[05:37] <maduser> again moan
[05:38] <Dr_willis> life causes problems...
[05:38] <holycow> 3 year old computer?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:38] <tehm0nk> if i were to install nvidia-glx Yes.
[05:38] <holycow> i have debian running on 10 year old systems.  i don't understand the question
[05:38] <holycow> what problem are you tryin gto solve?
[05:38] <holycow> tehm0nk: so describe your problem to me?
[05:38] <tehm0nk> if i use nvidia-glx-new the drivers work and compiz works
[05:38] <holycow> you install the distro, install nvidia-glx and then the system becomes unbootable?
[05:39] <tehm0nk> lol holycow that happened the first time i got it to install correctly.
[05:39] <tehm0nk> and was able to boot to it
[05:40] <holycow> can you try and put your problem into words?
[05:40] <holycow> i do this for free
[05:40] <tehm0nk> second time i used the nvidia-glx-new drivers, and then tried to enable the second monitor in the system settings, and that killed my xserver upon trying to reboot (probably because of the menu.lst)
[05:40] <holycow> asking me to GUESS what the problem is really makes me not want to help
[05:41] <holycow> okay why did you reinstall then?
[05:41]  * tehm0nk blinks
[05:41] <holycow> all you haveto do is backup your xorg.conf file
[05:41] <holycow> if you screw it up, you just copy your xorg.conf file back and restart kdm
[05:41] <holycow> whats the problem?
[05:41] <tehm0nk> ok i'll do that next time
[05:42] <tehm0nk> or i'll have you walk me through it if you're still here.
[05:42] <tehm0nk> Right now i'm trying to get grub setup right again.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I dont see how the menu.lst can affect the X drivers..
[05:42] <holycow> well how about this
[05:42] <Dr_willis> or visa-versa :)
[05:42] <holycow> you clearly don'[t know enough about linux to actually fix it
[05:42] <holycow> you didn't even know you could manually just restart x
[05:42] <holycow> so
[05:42] <tehm0nk> never said i did...
[05:43] <holycow> let me make a suggestion or two
[05:43] <holycow> 1. start with a clean install
[05:43] <holycow> forget fixing grub until you know more
[05:43] <tehm0nk> i JUST installed "clean"
[05:43] <holycow> 2. install nvidia glx new drivers
[05:43] <tehm0nk> and i'm trying to setup Grub because i'm on a SATA Raid0 setup
[05:43] <holycow> 3. use my xorg to configure dual monitor
[05:43] <holycow> log out and log back in
[05:44] <tehm0nk> if i dont get grub on there is no point in messing with nvidia drivers now right?
[05:44] <holycow> tehm0nk: may i suggest not trying to setup sata without enough knowledge to do it properly?
[05:44] <pacman> what do I need to change a .daa to a .iso?
[05:44] <tehm0nk> holycow: i've NEVER had an issue in windows.
[05:44] <holycow> your problem right now isn't your computer, its you
[05:44] <tehm0nk> :-P
[05:44] <holycow> you are trying to solve multiple problems simultaneously
[05:45] <holycow> how about you solve one problem at a time, get that down pat
[05:45] <holycow> then fix the others
[05:45] <Dr_willis> im still not clear on how grub broke.
[05:45] <tehm0nk> i thought i was going to get grub on flawlessly like the last two installs...
[05:45] <tehm0nk> Dr_willis: Thank you.
[05:45] <holycow> so you setup raid properly before?
[05:45] <holycow> if so you screwed something up
[05:45] <tehm0nk> if i'd stop getting burned for a second i'd Explain.
[05:45] <holycow> reinstall until you get the installer answers right
[05:45] <tehm0nk> it installed fine.
[05:45] <tehm0nk> until grub.
[05:45] <holycow> your not getting burned, just relax
[05:46] <Dr_willis> for a raid setup dosent the /boot need to be on a non raid  partition?
[05:46] <tehm0nk> no?
[05:46] <holycow> not at all
[05:46] <tehm0nk> it worked the last two time
[05:46] <tehm0nk> here is my partition order...
[05:46] <holycow> but you do want to install grub to the boot sector
[05:46] <holycow> not to /boot
[05:47] <holycow> if you install to /boot you may have custom configuration things to go through
[05:47] <tehm0nk> 1. vista swap part 2. linux /boot 3. vista 4. linux swap 5 "/" 6 /home
[05:47] <maduser> lets see I just download mandriva and now debian....
[05:48] <maduser> what are other good distros?
[05:48] <holycow> wrong channel to ask
[05:49] <holycow> try them all
[05:49] <holycow> you seem to be complaining but not really expressing what the problem is
[05:49] <maduser> Me?
[05:49] <holycow> why switching to begin with?
[05:49] <holycow> yep
[05:49] <holycow> just curious
[05:50] <maduser> I think i didn't test kubuntu enough before i installed it
[05:50] <holycow> ah you can't get it working?
[05:50] <tehm0nk> WOAH there is the reason i'm having issues with grub
[05:50] <holycow> whats the problem?
[05:50] <Jay-Oh-En> holycow: i have a sata hdd and everything went smooth for me
[05:50] <holycow> why don't you try installing ubuntu?
[05:50] <tehm0nk> something completely jacked up my raid setup :-x
[05:50] <maduser> I don't like gnome
[05:50] <holycow> so install xfce
[05:50] <maduser> me want kde
[05:50] <holycow> or whatever you want
[05:50] <maduser> might
[05:51] <holycow> okay so whats the problem?
[05:51] <maduser> Everything
[05:51] <holycow> that means nothing
[05:51] <jalbert> hey can anybody tell me how I can globally change the folders view settings?
[05:51] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: if you dont like kubuntu tho only other one i could say use is slackware or pcoslinux
[05:51] <holycow> this isn't your psychologists chair
[05:51] <maduser> ?
[05:51] <holycow> whats wrong with kde on ubuntu?
[05:51] <tehm0nk> holycow: i just got this error: "ERROR: finding sysfs mount point" when i ran dmraid -r
[05:51] <holycow> it's not a challenge, just curious
[05:51] <Jay-Oh-En> holycow: i love it
[05:52] <jalbert> hey can anybody tell me how I can globally change the folders view settings?
[05:52] <tehm0nk> any ideas on that?
[05:52] <holycow> in konqueror save the profile for the file view
[05:52] <jalbert> mmmm... ok
[05:52] <holycow> tehm0nk: no, i'm sticking with reinstall.  i don't feel like debugging poorly configured raid right now
[05:53] <tehm0nk> wow.
[05:53] <tehm0nk> ok
[05:53] <holycow> maduser: so i'm waiting, what kde problems are you running into?
[05:53] <maduser> well most programs i try to use fail
[05:53] <maduser> like frets on fire
[05:53] <holycow> what does that even mean?
[05:54] <maduser> It means i am using an operating system that is too powerful for my hardware
[05:54] <holycow> what are your hardware specs?
[05:54] <maduser> ati radon
[05:54] <maduser> 256 ram
[05:55] <maduser> 40 gig
[05:55] <holycow> okay
[05:55] <holycow> that is more than enough for basics
[05:55] <holycow> what can't you run?
[05:55] <maduser> well i want to run compiz and i can its just no great
[05:55] <jalbert> thanks, holycow.
[05:56] <maduser> i don't want to reinstall any more
[05:56] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: its not kde its your HARDWARE
[05:56] <maduser> yeah
[05:56] <Jay-Oh-En> try pcoslinux
[05:56] <Jay-Oh-En> or slackware
[05:56] <Jay-Oh-En> they are both really good ones
[05:56] <holycow> maduser: i want to help but you really are pushing th elimits here
[05:56] <maduser> downloading them now
[05:57] <holycow> why don't you actually try explaining what you can't run?
[05:57] <flaccid> why?
[05:57] <flaccid> its not going to change anything. i have an ati radeon using compiz fusion..
[05:57] <holycow> if you think moving to another distro will fix this, you clearly don't know enough about trying to solve the problem
[05:57] <flaccid> another distro is not going to improve linux support
[05:58] <holycow> or stop those that do support for free from not giving you a hard time FOR NOT actually answering questions
[05:58] <maduser> No but I have a crappy computer
[05:58] <holycow> no you don't
[05:58] <holycow> your computer is fine
[05:58] <flaccid> whats the actual problem sorry
[05:58] <holycow> i've been asking for 20 minutes now
[05:59] <maduser> well programs that used to work in wine  in 7.04 don't work now
[05:59] <holycow> ah there we go
[05:59] <holycow> problems running wine
[05:59] <holycow> lol
[05:59] <holycow> and you are changing distros for that?
[05:59] <maduser> then i was playing postal 2 in 7.04 and now it doe snot work
[05:59] <Jay-Oh-En> wine runs best on kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu
[05:59] <maduser> then i was playing postal 2 in 7.04 and now it doe not work
[05:59] <holycow> thats a problem with the version of wine
[05:59] <holycow> not the distro
[05:59] <flaccid> can i please ask what the specific problem is. i can't work it out from above
[06:00] <maduser> no i have the linux version of postal 2
[06:00] <Jay-Oh-En> holycow: have you ever tried linspire?
[06:00] <holycow> no, why would i do something that stupid?
[06:00] <holycow> :)
[06:00] <flaccid> you can install any wine on any linux... so changing distros will do nothing
[06:00] <maduser> I might
[06:00] <Jay-Oh-En> lol holycowits not stupid i was just asking
[06:00] <holycow> if you have the linux version of postal, why does wine haveto do with it?
[06:00] <maduser> then i have to keep on reinstalling
[06:00] <maduser> its getting very anoying
[06:01] <flaccid> if you have a wine problem, goto #wine, check the wine db or goto google
[06:01] <flaccid> this is kubuntu support channel
[06:01] <holycow> you mean like reading your posts here and you not actually answering any questions?
[06:01] <maduser> yeah
[06:01] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: you never have to reinstall linux
[06:01] <holycow> now that we agree, follow the advice of flaccid
[06:01] <Jay-Oh-En> maduser: theres a fix for almost everything
[06:01] <flaccid> unless you fook libc heh
[06:02] <maduser> what?
[06:02] <flaccid> ignore what i said
[06:02] <maduser> It could just be that i
[06:02] <maduser> do not like guesty
[06:02] <Jay-Oh-En> gutsy
[06:02] <maduser> tha
[06:03] <holycow> maduser: please go away
[06:03] <maduser> that
[06:03] <holycow> you are completely offtopic and no one cares
[06:03] <holycow> bother the nice folks on #wine, that is where your problem lies
[06:03] <holycow> this isn't a general chat channel
[06:03] <maduser> yeah
[06:04] <maduser> For some reason my sound just stops
[06:04] <flaccid> !sound | maduser
[06:04] <ubotu> maduser: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:04] <flaccid> could restart artsd in that case i guess
[06:14] <unix_infidel> anyone here use eclipse on kubuntu?
[06:14] <flaccid> yeah every now and then
[06:15] <ronnie_> anyone alive in here?
[06:15] <holycow> nope
[06:16] <ronnie_> hehe ok
[06:16] <holycow> :)
[06:17] <mox69> anyone here familiar with dstat ?
[06:17] <ronnie_> opinions on weather or not I should upgrade from 7.04 (feistyfawn) to 7.10 (gutsygibbon)..???
[06:18] <flaccid> why do you need to upgrade is the question...
[06:18] <flaccid> if you want do it for experience or no particular reason then sweet but not all upgrades are smooth so it begs the question
[06:18] <ronnie_> just wondering if it was alot better or more stable less bugs ??
[06:18] <holycow> ronnie_: same
[06:19] <holycow> but if you do upgrade, DON'T dist-upgrade
[06:19] <unix_infidel> same amount of bugs?
[06:19] <holycow> install from scratch
[06:19] <flaccid> every ubuntu release has many bugs
[06:19] <flaccid> every ubuntu release fixes bugs and creates new ones
[06:19] <holycow> it MIGHT work but you will have better results if you do it from scratch
[06:20] <holycow> jsut backup your data
[06:20] <unix_infidel> Yea last i used Ubuntu was dapper drake.
[06:20] <flaccid> holycow: thats not an upgrade. you upgrade by doing dist-upgrade. please do not give incorrect advice
[06:20] <holycow> no its correct advice
[06:20] <holycow> dist-upgrades on ubuntu are effectively broken
[06:20] <unix_infidel> It concerns me to see something so tightly integrated has fallen apart.
[06:20] <unix_infidel> holycow: i doubt that.
[06:20] <unix_infidel> some people absolutely rely on dist-upgrades and make them work.
[06:20] <holycow> talk to me when you have 200 ubuntu workstations
[06:21] <mox69> how about backup your data , then try dist-upgrade
[06:21] <mox69> thats different obviously
[06:21] <holycow> until then i recommend following the advice of those with the experience
[06:21] <unix_infidel> holycow: that's like saying your vpenis proportionately correlated to.....
[06:21] <mox69> this isnt the kubuntu office workstation channel
[06:21] <ronnie_> ya first time i tried it (7.10) I just put the fingerprint splash screen to start & it crashed! booted me back to the log in screen! so guess its not too stable haha!!
[06:21] <holycow> unix_infidel: clearly you are dumbass, welcome to my ignore list
[06:22] <holycow> ronnie_: no reason you can't try a dist upgrade, just be aware its quite risky
[06:22] <mox69> holycow: what would trying a dist-upgrade hurt? if it doesnt work then wipe and reinstall
[06:22] <unix_infidel> heh that being said there's no way to verify the existence of said workstations or competency in managing them.
[06:22]  * unix_infidel agrees with mox69 
[06:22] <holycow> mox69: or you can do what experienced people do
[06:22] <holycow> nost waste your time and just wipe and install
[06:23] <sigma_> does anyone here know how to configure the opensource ati tv out?
[06:23] <mox69> holycow: how long does an attempted dist-upgrade take vs. how much time it could save... 10 minutes for 2 hours?
[06:23] <holycow> now if you have the time and like playing no problem
[06:23] <mot> guys
[06:23] <mot> i have a very serious question.
[06:23] <holycow> mox69: try it
[06:23] <mot> on a scale from 1 to 10
[06:23] <holycow> if your time isn't worth anything thats okay
[06:23] <mot> how old do you think michael jackson's boyfriend is?
[06:23] <mox69> holycow: i have done it already, but obviously im an unexperienced linux novice.
[06:24] <holycow> mox69: you're simply arguing the wrong point, thats okay
[06:24] <ronnie_> im not a computer geek so no good at fixing bugs, I either uninstall the program or delete it, when i find any probablem, : )
[06:24] <mox69> holycow: well im dont arguing, but just because YOU have had problems using dist upgrade on 200 workstations, doesn't mean EVERYONE will have the same problem.
[06:25] <holycow> ronnie_: well like it has been suggested, try a dist upgrade if you have the time, i'm only giving you a heads up for possible issue.  if it works great
[06:25] <holycow> mox69: please be quiet
[06:25] <holycow> if you can't even understand the context of the answer i think you should stop right there
[06:25] <unix_infidel> mox69: some people dont have the option of a wipe / install.
[06:25] <unix_infidel> if they need to make a broken install work they will.
[06:25] <mox69> unix_infidel: i agree with you...
[06:26] <unix_infidel> and the few that will, will document it.
[06:27] <unix_infidel> I'm not saying any one way is the definte way like holycow.  I'm saying, ever since when I was using mandrake 10 there have been people fixing broken upgrades.
[06:27] <ronnie_> i have the cd, so ya can install from scratch!, only music on this one which i can easily transfer to my mp3 b4 I erase it,
[06:29] <ronnie_> tho should I make another copy ,maybe they add fixes to the site?
[06:31] <holycow> ronnie_: well if you are using it as a webserver, what most people do these days (depending to some degree on situation) is run things like vmware
[06:31] <holycow> so you run the release as a virtual machine.
[06:32] <holycow> that way either you publish a new updated image and migrate services over, or you try an upgrade.  if it fails you can roll it back
[06:35] <ronnie_> well I usally install it & slowly find programs (bugs) & just take em out , just thought cause my cd copy was made 1 month or so ago its outdated & the site download would be a better stable copy?
[06:36] <holycow> ohhh hehe :)
[06:36] <holycow> THAT i completely misunderstood
[06:36] <ronnie_> hehe
[06:37] <holycow> if you have the final cd there is no need to download another.  it will download updates over the net
[06:39] <ronnie_> ya guess so, I first had suse, but useing the update was odd...added tons, even cloned itself or something, & slowed down my computer to a crawl! haha, well besides it already being a low grade slow one!, : )
[06:46] <jalbert> I am trying to upgrade the distro
[06:46] <jalbert> from Feisty to Gutsy
[06:47] <jalbert> and I keep getting 404 errors
[06:48] <ardchoille> jalbert: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:48] <ardchoille> !pastebin | jalbert
[06:48] <ubotu> jalbert: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <ronnie_> I bought mandriva2006 my first system, & tvtime worked perfect, but in this (7.04) major! bug!, & in (7.10) program shows up but cant change default to tv (the-input), wish they'd keep the older programs if they work DON'T FIX IT!!! (sheese)  : )
[06:50] <holycow> ubuntu only supports officially something like 2000 pieces of software
[06:50] <holycow> i'm fairly positive that is something not supported
[06:50] <ronnie_> oh ok not a specific kubuntu program thats why thx now i know : )
[06:52] <roconnor> Boy, Kubuntu needs a low disk space pop-up.
[06:53] <holycow> it has one
[06:53] <roconnor> apparently lots of strange things can happen when you run out of disk space
[06:53] <roconnor> holycow: oh, is it new?
[06:53] <roconnor> I'm running 7.04
[06:53] <holycow> on gutsy i think yes.  it pops up here on one of my partitions
[06:53] <roconnor> holycow: :)
[06:53] <roconnor> great, problem solved
[06:54] <roconnor> although possibly anoying in some situations ;)
[06:56] <mot> damn
[06:56] <mot> i setup samba on this kubuntu box and can access shares locally
[06:56] <mot> but even though i setup users with access, i can't access from my windows box - nothing i try at the login prompt works
[06:56] <mot> any suggestions?
[06:57] <holycow> mot not off the top of my head ... i have seen this question many time
[06:57] <holycow> mot i'm going to suggest to google it as it is a very common question
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> mot: use nfs and download the SFU package for windows.
[06:58] <holycow> heh or do that
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's an out-there answer
[06:58] <holycow> it is indeed :)
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> honestly, i feel it's the best solution
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> get rid of the in-between kludge that is samba
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> it's time for windows to support NFS natively
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> (without an additional download)
[06:59] <holycow> to be honest i've wanted a universal file sharing protocol my self
[06:59] <holycow> i always thought it would be simpler to write a plugin for windows instead of reverse engineer thier stuff back
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i think NFS would be the best choice, because it's FS afnostic
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> agnostic
[06:59] <holycow> nfs has problems too
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> it does, yes
[07:00] <holycow> appearently nfsv4 is supposed to be good but ... yeah why not
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> it tends to be a teensy bit slow for me
[07:02] <jalbert> ubotu: pastebinning now
[07:02] <ronnie_> so is 7.10 just the most modern version of a linux system? or only the most popular?, wish there was a (duh!) blonde version for me muhahaha!!
[07:02] <holycow> ubotu is a bot btw
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot btw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <jalbert> ardchoille: pastebinning now
[07:02] <holycow> ronnie_: its the most updated COMPILATION of linux + open source software
[07:03] <holycow> but there are other compilations (distros) of the latest stuff you can use
[07:03] <ardchoille> ronnie_: http://distrowatch.com/
[07:03] <ronnie_> k thx, : )
[07:04] <dibyajyoti> hello folks
[07:04] <holycow> hi
[07:04] <dibyajyoti> are u guys working in security domain?
[07:05] <holycow> highly unlikely anyone with those credentials would be here
[07:05] <holycow> whats your question?
[07:05] <jalbert> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48505/
[07:06] <dibyajyoti> yah i was asking whether u people are involved in network security doamin?
[07:07] <holycow> lol
[07:07] <holycow> :)
[07:07] <ardchoille> jalbert: Were you getting a 404 on the medibuntu repo?
[07:07] <jalbert> yes
[07:07] <jalbert> wait...
[07:07] <jalbert> lemme check
[07:07] <ardchoille> jalbert: That's because your sources line is wrong.
[07:07] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | jalbert Look here for the correct info
[07:07] <jalbert> meh?
[07:07] <ubotu> jalbert Look here for the correct info: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:08] <jalbert> what line is wrong?
[07:09] <ardchoille> jalbert: It's best to just follow the info on the medibuntu site to fix it
[07:09] <jalbert> ok
[07:09] <dibyajyoti> i am a newbie to IRC
[07:09] <ardchoille> jalbert: Also, did you add the medibuntu repo key? If not, you should do that too.
[07:09] <holycow> dibyajyoti: welcoime
[07:09] <dibyajyoti> u thank
[07:09] <dibyajyoti> :)
[07:13] <jalbert> trying again
[07:13] <jalbert> ...
[07:14] <brad__> hey...so I'm having trouble with Flash on 64bit Kubuntu
[07:15] <brad__> it was working for months and then stopped..I tried to uninstall and reinstall...on Konq which I generally use it doesnt freeze the browser but wont show the image
[07:15] <brad__> and on youtube plays audio but no video
[07:15] <jalbert> hmmm...
[07:15] <brad__> and on firefox it either works or it crashed the browser
[07:15] <holycow> brad__: you had it working?
[07:15] <brad__> for months
[07:15] <jalbert> still getting the error
[07:15] <brad__> and it stopped inexplicably today
[07:15] <holycow> there is no 64 bit flash ... you must of hack in the 32 bit plug right?
[07:15] <brad__> and I've uninstalled and reinstalled the nonfree plugin from adept
[07:16] <brad__> yeah but I think it is a lot easier with gutsy
[07:16] <brad__> I dont really remember how I did it
[07:16] <holycow> brad__: there is no 64 bit flash plugin dude
[07:16] <holycow> how can it possible work?
[07:16] <jalbert> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48506/
[07:16] <brad__> what I do know is that I thought I was going to have to use firefox for all flash applications and it magically worked on konqueror
[07:16] <holycow> did they automate the flash hack on 64?
[07:16] <brad__> believe me flash worked for months but you have to do an nspluginwrapper or something like that
[07:16] <brad__> and then it stopped working at random today
[07:17] <holycow> well it's impossible, there is no 64 bit flash
[07:17] <poeticrpm_> on 64bit, use swiftweasel and the blackdown java 1.4 plugin
[07:17] <brad__> I mean I think I updated things but nothing associated with it
[07:17] <brad__> well believe me that it worked, it just needs to be installed in 32 bit architecture or something
[07:17] <brad__> tons of people use flash on their 64 bit os
[07:17] <holycow> except
[07:17] <holycow> there is no 64 bit flash
[07:17] <brad__> I mean we could argue about whether people do or dont if you want, but ubuntuforums for 64 bit are full of people using flash
[07:18] <holycow> which means that its a hack and i would expect it will break
[07:18] <brad__> I KNOW THAT, you have to install it in forced 32 bit architecture
[07:18] <brad__> or something like that
[07:18] <holycow> i'm just impressed that it's automated
[07:18] <brad__> and it worked for a really long time
[07:18] <brad__> then stopped
[07:18] <brad__> well everyone on 64bit uses flash
[07:18] <jalbert> ardchoille:still  getting the 404 despite following the instructions to fix the sources list
[07:18] <brad__> and the fact that it still plays sound on youtube but doesnt show a video
[07:18] <brad__> means its somewhat working
[07:19] <jalbert> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48506/
[07:19] <arrrghhh> so is it true?  kde4 final in 25 days?
[07:20] <jalbert> I added the Medibuntu repositories to the sources file, using the method in those instructions
[07:20] <holycow> jalbert: what problem are you trying to solve? your the one with 404 errors?
[07:21] <holycow> brad__: aha neato
[07:21] <jalbert> yeah
[07:21] <holycow> brad__: unfortunately i don't know anything about that, i don't run 64 bit
[07:21] <jalbert> I want to do the upgrade to Gutsy
[07:21] <holycow> sorry dude
[07:22] <arrrghhh> jalbert: all you want to do is the gutsy upgrade?  sudo update-manager -c
[07:22] <holycow> well 404 just means you can't reach the servers in your repos
[07:22] <jalbert> I keep getting 404 errors
[07:22] <arrrghhh> oh
[07:22] <arrrghhh> change your repos
[07:22] <holycow> jalbert: check out what repo is generating it and comment it out.
[07:23] <holycow> and yeah then change repos
[07:23] <arrrghhh> i found a site that suggested i let it ping all the servers and 'use the best one' - yea well the best one at that second doesn't mean it's the best one in the long run.  i'd just select the repo for your country.
[07:25] <kraut> moin
[07:25] <jalbert> I need to get some sleep
[07:26] <jalbert> I'm seeing monospaced fonts every time I close my eyes
[07:26] <holycow> heh
[07:26] <jalbert> I'll seal with this tomorrow.
[07:27] <jalbert> *deal*
[07:27] <jalbert> thanks for the help
[07:27] <holycow> it takes a while,  but once you get over the first bit its super easy
[07:29] <jalbert> night all
[07:32] <ardchoille> jalbert: You still did something wrong
[07:33] <ardchoille> jalbert: Your package manager is trying to fetch from "medibuntu.sos-sts.com" when it should be trying to fetch from "packages.medibuntu.org"
[07:34] <ardchoille> jalbert: See this section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[07:34] <holycow> or just take the line out
[07:34] <holycow> and update and dist-upgrade
[07:34] <ardchoille> Well, he wants medibuntu I assume
[07:35] <holycow> good point
[07:35] <ardchoille> holycow: But yeah, that would get rid of the errors
[07:55] <mabrothrax> hi !
[07:55] <mabrothrax> is somebody can say if i can install kubuntu on an old imac G3 ?
[07:56] <mabrothrax> is there somebody awake ?
[07:57] <neville> Get the PPC version of Kubuntu
[07:57] <bazhang> mabrothrax: which version? gutsy?
[07:57] <bazhang> !ppc | mabrothrax
[07:57] <ubotu> mabrothrax: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[07:58] <cvg54> hola buenas
[07:58] <bazhang> !es | cvg54
[07:58] <ubotu> cvg54: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:59] <cvg54> alguno sabe como instalar kde4 rc2 SIN FALLOS? me da error cuando hay que poner aquello de cp
[08:00] <mabrothrax> ubotu: i read your link, v7.10 is latest no? isn't it too "heavy" for a G3
[08:00] <bazhang> cvg54: this is an english channel; you should click on the link #kubuntu-es
[08:00] <cvg54> ok
[08:00] <bazhang> mabrothrax: perhaps; though he is a bot :}
[08:01] <mabrothrax> ok ! first stupid question ! ;)
[08:01] <bazhang> haha
[08:01] <ardchoille> lol
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> there are no stupid questions
[08:02] <bazhang> mabrothrax: you might want to try xubuntu on that
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> inane, retarded, and pointless, yes.  but not stupid :)
[08:02] <jussi__> !gutsy | mabrothrax
[08:02] <ubotu> mabrothrax: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> (that was referring to questions in general, not yours specifically)
[08:03] <mabrothrax> at this link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/        i can see dapper / feity / gusty / 6.06 / 7.04 / 7.10          is it the same ?
[08:04] <jussi01> mabrothrax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/gutsy/release/
[08:06] <mabrothrax> gusty's the last one, is there a ppc version on kbuntu 5 (2005) ?
[08:07] <jussi01> mabrothrax: why would you ask?
[08:07] <jussi01> mabrothrax: this isnt windows, it is better to run the latest one even on old hw...
[08:08] <mabrothrax> cause i'm affraid it can't work properly on a G3 with v 6 or 7...
[08:08] <jussi01> mabrothrax: but as pointed out earlier - try xubuntu as it is much lighter.
[08:08] <earl_> so i'm trying KDE4
[08:08] <earl_> but i can't get it to start from KDM
[08:09] <earl_> when i log into a KDE4 session i just get booted right back to the login screen. no error message.
[08:09] <earl_> just a black screen for a split second, and then the login screen. what gives?
[08:09] <kapubaten> hi. i just install kubuntu 6.01 in my computer. how can i get extra package
[08:09] <bazhang> better to try the livecd at this point earl_
[08:09] <earl_> is it possible to install from the livecd?
[08:10] <bazhang> earl_: install kubuntu? yes
[08:10] <earl_> how do you do it? i have the livecd but I couldn't find a way to install from it
[08:10] <bazhang> earl_: oh the kde4 live cd? no idea then
[08:10] <mabrothrax> ok , i gonna try it... thank you all ! powerpc ? linux - powa !     bye !
[08:11] <earl_> right that's the problem
[08:11] <earl_> id like to try KDE4 withotu the cd
[08:12] <earl_> is there at least something i could look at to find the error
[08:12] <earl_> because i have no clues right now
[08:12] <bazhang> lots of problems with kde4 afaik right now earl_
[08:12] <earl_> last time i came in here and asked about it i was told it was actually pretty stable
[08:12] <holycow> the topic has installation instructions if you have kubuntu/ubuntu already installed somewhere
[08:12] <holycow> no guarantee it will work
[08:13] <earl_> holycow: those are the instrucitons i used; i didnt do the last part though. i was told it wasn't necessary.
[08:13] <earl_> with xephyr and all that.
[08:13] <holycow> not necessary no
[08:13] <holycow> so when you logout, you don't have an option to select the kde4 session?
[08:14] <earl_> no i do
[08:14] <holycow> k. then?
[08:14] <earl_> i pick KDE4 then log in, and the screen just flashes black and i get the login screen
[08:14] <earl_> it doesnt even like lock up
[08:14] <earl_> it does this int he course of about 3 seconds
[08:14] <holycow> yeah its not working on your box
[08:14] <earl_> as in, ever?
[08:14] <holycow> well for right now
[08:15] <earl_> is there any particular reason?
[08:15] <earl_> the live cd works..
[08:15] <holycow> well there is always a particular reason with computers
[08:15] <holycow> computers don't do random things
[08:15] <holycow> ther eis something about your setup that makes it do that
[08:15] <earl_> right
[08:15] <holycow> hard to know what
[08:16] <earl_> well i was going to do a clean install of linux soon anyway
[08:16] <earl_> because i made a bit of a mess of things messing around with different programs for the sake of eye-candy
[08:16] <earl_> do you think it'd be more likely to work on a clean install?
[08:16] <holycow> that might be part of it
[08:16] <holycow> earl_: much more likely yes
[08:17] <holycow> chances are you configured something strange thats interfering with kde4 being able to startup
[08:17] <earl_> then i'll give that a shot.
[08:17] <earl_> one more question, do you by any chance use 64bit?
[08:18] <holycow> no
[08:18] <earl_> hm
[08:18] <earl_> alright
[08:18] <earl_> thanks
[08:23] <neville> Lol, 50% of vmware workstation done since yesterday afternoon =]
[08:24] <holycow> time to get off dialup?
[08:26] <Greeny_> (holycow) time to get off dialup?
[08:26] <Greeny_> WOW
[08:26] <Greeny_> I didn't know they still did dialup :p
[08:26] <holycow> it was a joke, but a lot of places have only dialup actually
[08:27] <holycow> a goo dnumber of our offices are in remote locations, dialup only
[08:27] <Greeny_> :o
[08:30] <neville> I do use dialup -_-v
[08:31] <llutz> it's ok if they don't have to transfer big data-masses
[08:31] <tazgodx> anyone know how to send a file over SSH to another computer in terminal?
[08:31] <neville> 208Mb isn't that bad
[08:31] <holycow> tazgodx: man scp or google some examples of commands
[08:32] <llutz> tazgodx: scp/sftp
[08:32] <sub[t]rnl> rsync too
[08:32] <tazgodx> thanks
[08:37] <mabrothrax> re !
[08:37] <mabrothrax> i found some informations about imac G3... i'll give you
[08:38] <mabrothrax> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines.
[08:38] <mabrothrax> You will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD.
[08:38] <mabrothrax> and "hopp!"
[08:38] <mabrothrax> see ya !
[08:41] <ardchoille> Is there a search facility in Kubuntu that will search my files, kaddressbook items, kmail emails, etc all from one app? Strigi just doesn't seem to suit me.
[08:45] <noaXess> hi all
[08:45] <noaXess> how can i repair my whole kde installation.. its a fresh intall..
[08:48] <noaXess> i can login, but see only my background image and nothing more... nothing happens
[08:48] <waltercool_eee> someone have used a laptop with a VGA monitor?
[08:49] <llutz> noaXess: press ctrl-alt-f1, log in as user, type "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old" , press ctrl-alt-f7 again and try to log in.
[08:50] <ardchoille> noaXess: Do you get anything with alt+f2?
[08:50] <noaXess> ok.. it work now.... some image that i have mounted was blocking kde.. why i don't know..
[08:50] <llutz> noaXess: but maybe it's a good idea to check /var/log/kdm.log before
[08:50] <noaXess> ardchoille: have tried it but now.. but now it worl
[08:50] <noaXess> work
[08:50] <llutz> ah ok
[08:50] <ardchoille> ok
[09:07] <noaXess> just back on my kubuntu :)
[09:07] <poeticrpm_> is there any devs in here?
[09:08] <poeticrpm_> noaXess: hows it running?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:09]  * ActionParsnip waves
[09:09] <Lynoure> poeticrpm_: usually there are some, but there is #kubuntu-devs one can join to talk to more of them, I think
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> heya ActionParsnip
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> sub[t]rnl, you ok?
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> always
[09:11] <poeticrpm_> well, for what its worth, I just wanted to tell the Kubuntu community, awesome job! 7.10 has been a very good release
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> poeticrpm_, yeah man its pretty sweet
[09:12] <poeticrpm_> I had 7.04, and I had a lot of issues- it seems the issues have been ironed out with 7.10
[09:12] <poeticrpm_> want a VERY weird problem?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> poeticrpm_, not had an issue with either but ALL my hardware is Linux friendly :D
[09:12] <poeticrpm_> so is mine!
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> poeticrpm_, www.efficientpc.co.uk
[09:13] <poeticrpm_> nvidia, intel, atheros- thats pretty good
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> poeticrpm_, whats the weird problem?
[09:13] <Lynoure> I remember feeling the other way around... my linux-friendly hardware stopped being friends at 7.10 when it comes to suspend
[09:13] <Lynoure> oh well, cannot have everything.
[09:13] <poeticrpm_> hehe.. I dont have it know, I had it on 7.04
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, just leave your pc on and turn off monitor :D
[09:14] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: it's a laptop... hibernate and suspend come very handy on those
[09:14] <poeticrpm_> amarok and kaffeine would crash, and thumbnails wouldnt load, but only if I didnt have an internet connection
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, how long does it take to cold boot?
[09:14] <poeticrpm_> as soon as I had a connection, theyd work flawlessly
[09:14] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: Never timed it, but it looses state on web pages and tries to reload them
[09:15] <llutz> Lynoure: same problem here with several notebooks, suspend/resume still seems to be lottery with linux-systems :(
[09:15] <Lynoure> llutz: I want a new ticket =)
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, couldnt you reconfig you browser  somehow. Personally I've never used suspend. I just shutdown
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> poeticrpm_, let me google
[09:16] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: If you know how on konqueror and ff, I'll gladly give it a try.
[09:16] <fgeyser> morning all
[09:16] <poeticrpm_> actionparsnip.. dont worry about it
[09:17] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: I don't even know how to make konsole show the earlier going-ons over boot
[09:17] <Lynoure> it does not seem to get saved with session
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, history is a good command
[09:17] <poeticrpm_> it was on 7.04, im on 7.10 now- I searched for days and tried everything- its the only problem to date I couldnt fix
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, or just press your up cursor
[09:18] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: yes, but it does not show the results of commands, just the commands
[09:18] <Lynoure> and usually it's both I'd want to see, to get a sense of what I was doing.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, how does suspend give you the results of the command Do you mean the shell window scrolling so you can see all the outputs?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, just curious an all :D
[09:20] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: both suspend and hibernate save the current state of everything, yes. Was that what you meant? I'm too ill to troubleshoot the suspend process today, sorry.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, yeah. just curious what you meant. I just shook off a cough from hell too man. no worries
[09:21] <Lynoure> I had scheduled to do a full attack on it, this time with a friend, on Friday, but that got postponed till I have my brainz back.
[09:21] <bazhang> garlic crushed finely in soup will fix you right up--sorry about the offtopic
[09:21] <Lynoure> bazhang: probably not.
[09:22] <Lynoure> bazhang: but thanks :)
[09:22] <bazhang> Lynoure: you are too valuable to lose to the flu :}
[09:23] <Lynoure> Very kind of you.
[09:23] <bazhang> just the truth
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Lynoure, hot lemonade with honey compiled into your kernel ;)
[09:25] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: anyway, the suspend seems to suspend, just not recover. Similar symptom on hibernate, if I remember right.
[09:26] <sigma_kubuntu> i get that too!
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Seems to be a big issue. Maybe they should really push for suspend to be better
[09:28] <sigma_kubuntu> i agree. wonder if it works for anyone
[09:28] <llutz> ActionParsnip: they try, problem are all those crippled Bios and closed-source drivers
[09:28] <sigma_kubuntu> at least it half works :)
[09:30] <sigma_kubuntu> thing is the pc comes out of suspend but not the monitor? mine works bt if its suspended 4more than say 5 mins it wont come out - which dont help much
[09:32] <tony__> hello
[09:32] <bazhang> hi tony__
[09:32] <sigma_kubuntu> hi tony got a question?
[09:33] <tony__> no   no question just new to this
[09:34] <sigma_kubuntu> to linux u mean?
[09:36] <tony__> not to linux just konversation   and irc
[09:37] <bazhang> here be dragons
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> tony__, use tab to autocomplete names :D
[09:38] <tony__> cool
[09:39] <tony__> ??  can I use this program to get into yahoo chat
[09:39] <bazhang> if you find a way to do so, let us all know :}
[09:41] <bazhang> pidgin can though do both iirc
[09:43] <bazhang> kopete as well I believe
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> has anyone seen Ubuntu installed on a Nokia N810
[09:53] <bazhang> someone did it on a N95 iirc
[09:53] <kristjan_> kde4 ftw!
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> bazhang, haha ace :D
[09:55] <white_eagle> kde 4, when?
[09:55] <bazhang> totally useless, but cool nonetheless
[09:56] <kristjan_> bazhang: I got addicted to it, too late turn back :-)
[09:56] <bazhang> kristjan_: I meant the N95 install not kde4 silly :}
[09:57] <kristjan_> haha
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Kde4 = January 11th 2008 :D
[10:04] <ardchoille> I'm looking for a search solution for kubuntu. Looked at beagle in the repos. It pulls in lots of gnome, gtk and mono dependencies. Isn't there a kde/qt app that does the same thing without having to pull in a lot of gnome/gtk/mono deps?
[10:05] <kristjan_> ardchoille: strigi
[10:05] <kristjan_> ardchoille: but with less features
[10:05] <ardchoille> kristjan_: I was about to say that.. and I don't like the web interface strigi has
[10:06] <kristjan_> ardchoille: beagle has kde interface "kerry" not sure about dep. though
[10:06] <opdensteinen> hi
[10:06] <ardchoille> Yes, kerry looks nice, but beagle pulls in too many gnome/gtk/mono deps
[10:06] <opdensteinen> name hi
[10:06] <jussi01> !hi | opdensteinen
[10:06] <ubotu> opdensteinen: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:07] <opdensteinen> hi thx
[10:07] <opdensteinen> its great
[10:07] <opdensteinen> ^
[10:07] <kristjan_> ardchoille: I myself like "locate:/" ;-)
[10:07] <opdensteinen> does anyone know how to change my nick
[10:07] <opdensteinen> ???
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> what about kat
[10:07] <jussi01> opdensteinen: /nick newnickhere
[10:07] <llutz> opdensteinen: /nick newnick
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, tried kat?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !kat | ardchoille
[10:07] <ubotu> ardchoille: Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[10:08] <Gogoacquan> thx a lot
[10:08] <jussi01> !register | Gogoacquan
[10:08] <ubotu> Gogoacquan: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[10:08] <ardchoille> Oh, there's a kio slave for beagle? This just got more interesting
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, google is your friend ;)
[10:09] <ardchoille> :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> or www.ask.com too (website previews are sweeeet)
[10:13] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a howto to install frets on fire or can anybody help me here
[10:13] <Gogoacquan> does anyone know a programm for watching tv???^^
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !mythtv " Gogoacquan
[10:14] <finek> !mythtv
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> !mythtv | Gogoacquan
[10:14] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[10:14] <ubotu> Gogoacquan: please see above
[10:14] <Gogoacquan> thx
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Gogoacquan, np man
[10:25] <ardchoille> Well, strigidaemon crashes when I search for anything or start the daemon
[10:28] <jussi01> Is anyone familiar with scribus? how do I make borders around an item?
[10:29] <wwbwwb> cn
[10:31] <jussi01> wwbwwb: can we help?
[10:35] <girolamo> !italiano
[10:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <werner__> Hi! Anybody working with evolution and Bogofilter under KDE?
[10:47] <wwbwwb> kubuntu cn
[10:48] <ardchoille> wwbwwb: Can we help you with something?
[10:48] <jussi01> !cn | wwbwwb
[10:48] <ubotu> wwbwwb: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:48] <ardchoille> Ah, thanks jussi01
[10:48] <werner__> I installe Evolution, bogofilter is installed. EVO doesn't show the bogofilter option in JUNK
[10:50] <werner__> Last time I insted EVO it was no prob
[10:50] <werner__> any ideas?
[10:52] <se7en> ok how do i get kde4 to work... what do i have to download
[10:54] <Lynoure> se7en: this page has instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[10:54] <se7en> thanks Lynoure
[11:06] <finek> is anyone has flash which works?
[11:07] <SBucatone> ??
[11:07] <SBucatone> flash to view youtubben ?
[11:07] <SBucatone> of course yes
[11:07] <finek> for example
[11:07] <finek> how to install it
[11:07] <SBucatone> !flash
[11:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:09] <finek> ok thx
[11:12] <finek> !java
[11:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:15] <kedde> I have a problem with my wireless it's really slow I tried to add "alias ipv6 off" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist when I use a cable it runs ok. I'm sitting at my school the have a really good connection normally I have a speed on over 300kb/s but now the speed is max. 50 kb/s
[11:18] <ninjagambit_> your not going to get it to work if your using kubuntu 64bit
[11:20] <ninjagambit_> but i was just thinking maby if i use wine and run windows version of firefox
[11:20] <ninjagambit_> maby then flash will work
[11:20] <finek> http://wklej.org/id/10e0e735b8
[11:20] <Sbucat> hello problem with kommander how can i create an installer for my gui ?
[11:20] <kedde> I'm using kubuntu 32 bit
[11:20] <onishidato> hey guys, i have 2 HD, one for Linux, and one for WinXP, when i try to use my WinXP HD from Kubuntu, they say that: "half-storage-fixed mount refused uid 1000" so i don't know what's wrong? what can i do now?
[11:20] <finek> what means this error
[11:21] <ninjagambit_> if your using 32 bit hit alt space type in adept hit enter
[11:21] <ninjagambit_> then type in flash
[11:21] <ninjagambit_> in the search bar
[11:21] <ninjagambit_> install flash plugin
[11:22] <onishidato> hey guys, i have 2 HD, one for Linux, and one for WinXP, when i try to use my WinXP HD from Kubuntu, they say that: "half-storage-fixed mount refused uid 1000" so i don't know what's wrong? what can i do now?
[11:23] <ninjagambit_> beats me onishifdato
[11:23] <ninjagambit_> maby reboot and go to boot menu
[11:23] <ninjagambit_> go in win xp
[11:24] <onishidato> cause i can not use XP anymore, they have virus inside, so i just wanna take all my data to Linux, safer place:D
[11:25] <Zombocom> herro
[11:25] <ninjagambit_> i just put it all on a disk
[11:25] <ninjagambit_> then moved it
[11:25] <ninjagambit_> that way
[11:26] <ninjagambit_> well multiple dvd disk acctually
[11:26] <onishidato> does anyone have another way??
[11:27] <kedde> how do you mount you windows disk?
[11:27] <ninjagambit_> !mount
[11:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:28] <ninjagambit_> !fstab
[11:28] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:28] <ninjagambit_> !DiskMounter
[11:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:28] <ninjagambit_> !Partitions
[11:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:28] <ninjagambit_> !NTFS-3g
[11:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:29] <ninjagambit_> !FUSE
[11:29] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[11:29] <finek> !gnash
[11:29] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:29] <ninjagambit_> does that help
[11:29] <ardchoille> !botabuse
[11:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:31] <Zombocom> is there a command that loads a file off the internet?
[11:31] <Zombocom> for the terminal?
[11:32] <ardchoille> Zombocom: You mean download a file?
[11:32] <Zombocom> yes
[11:32] <ninjagambit_> yeah
[11:32] <ardchoille> Zombocom: wget http://www.blah.com/somefile
[11:32] <Zombocom> thank you
[11:32] <ardchoille> yw
[11:32] <ardchoille> Zombocom: wget will download the file to the directory you are currently in
[11:33] <Zombocom> thank you
[11:33] <ninjagambit_> just curious ardchoille but how do you guys get those links so fast
[11:33] <ardchoille> ninjagambit_: Which links>
[11:33] <ardchoille> ?
[11:34] <Zombocom> lol
[11:34] <ninjagambit_> I just see alot of people here that can pull web links out in like a sec
[11:34] <ninjagambit_> for almost any topic
[11:34] <Zombocom> http://www.blah.com/somefile is not a real page
[11:34] <ardchoille> That was just an example of how to use wget
[11:34] <ninjagambit_> lol
[11:35] <ninjagambit_> sorry its late here
[11:35] <Zombocom> lol
[11:35] <ninjagambit_> 5:30 AM
[11:35] <Zombocom> lol
[11:36] <Zombocom> it's like 3:35 am here
[11:36] <Zombocom> and I just woke up
[11:36] <ninjagambit_> lol
[11:36] <ninjagambit_> early riser
[11:36] <sigma_kubuntu> why does canonical not reply to emails?
[11:37] <Zombocom> lol ninjagambit_ it's an anomaly trust me
[11:37] <ninjagambit_> lol
[11:38] <ninjagambit_> wouldnt think a guy with a name like zombocom would be a early riser
[11:38] <Zombocom> ninjagambit_ normally I wake up like 10
[11:38] <Zombocom> 10 am
[11:38] <Zombocom> once I woke up at 1:30 pm
[11:38] <ninjagambit_> 8 to 12 if im not working
[11:39] <ninjagambit_> sometimes 1 or2 in the afternoon after nights like this
[11:40] <Zombocom> lol
[11:42] <ninjagambit_> unless my kid starts jumping on my head and shouting wake up
[11:43] <finek> !multiverse
[11:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:44] <ninjagambit_> finek: thank ubotu for his help
[11:44] <finek> ;)
[11:44] <ardchoille> !botsnack
[11:44] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:45] <ninjagambit_> lol
[11:45] <ninjagambit_> ubotu is crazy
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is crazy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <ninjagambit_> its ok  we love you ubotu
[11:47] <ninjagambit_> what every you do dont he dosnt know very much
[11:47] <ninjagambit_> ever
[11:48] <ninjagambit_> !APT
[11:49] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:50] <ninjagambit_> well im going to bed now
[11:50] <ninjagambit_> its been fun
[11:50] <ninjagambit_> g'night
[11:50] <ninjagambit_> good night ubotu
[11:53] <Zombocom> whats the command to make something an executable?
[11:56] <ardchoille> Zombocom: chmod u+x file
[11:56] <Zombocom> thank you
[11:56] <Zombocom> wait ardchoille isn't it chmod +x file?
[11:57] <ardchoille> Zombocom: You don't really want to make it executable to everyone, just the user (owner), for security reasons
[11:57] <Zombocom> ah
[11:57] <Zombocom> thanks
[11:57] <Zombocom> so it's u+x
[11:57] <Zombocom> got it
[11:57] <ardchoille> Zombocom: You can make it executable to everyone with: chmod a+x file
[11:58] <ardchoille> But that's not really a good idea
[11:58] <Zombocom> can you turn a bash script into an executable?
[11:58] <Zombocom> or how do you do that
[11:58] <ardchoille> bash scripts should be executable for them to work as expected, yes
[11:59] <Zombocom> lol
[11:59] <Zombocom> thanks
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, chmod +x <bash script>
[11:59] <ardchoille> or, for bash scripts, you can launch it without it being executable: sh file.sh
[11:59] <Zombocom> srsly
[11:59] <Zombocom> aw
[11:59] <Arilou> !mount
[11:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:59] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Better to make it only executable for the owner
[12:00] <Arilou> !diskmounter
[12:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[12:00] <dcorbin_work> What is the correct (kubuntu) way to enable/disable init.d scripts for various runtime levels?
[12:00] <jussi01> ardchoille: if its a bash script shoud you not run: bash file.sh ?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, you can just make it executable then just tye the file name
[12:01] <Zombocom> when running a bash script that's in /bin/bash/
[12:01] <ardchoille> jussi01: I would think if the first line were #!/bin/bash then yes, but most of the scripts I have seen are #!/bin/sh and are better being run with sh as the shell will determine what is needed
[12:01] <Zombocom> oh wow
[12:01] <jussi01> ardchoille: yes, of course you are correct.
[12:01] <Zombocom> so you just type (if the file is in /bin/bash) bash file?
[12:02] <ardchoille> Zombocom: You can do that if you want, yes
[12:02] <Zombocom> ardchoille you're acting as if it's the less effective way of doing it
[12:02] <neville> What is Zombo?
[12:02] <neville> I found this website called exactly that, and I have no idea what it is
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, you put #!/bin/bash at the top of every bash script. If you make the script file executable (chmod +x <file>) it can be ran from the gui
[12:03] <ardchoille> Zombocom: bash file.sh will try to run the file with bash, if the file isn't meant to run with bash, you could get an error. when you run the file with sh file.sh, the shell ill determine what is best (sh or bash or other) and attempt to run it with that
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> neville, its a really small low power consumption desktop system based on gentoo
[12:04] <Zombocom> ah ardchoille you never cease to amaze me
[12:04] <Zombocom> I just wonder if you ever sleep
[12:04] <ardchoille> sleep? what's that?
[12:04] <ardchoille> ;)
[12:04] <bazhang> haha
[12:05] <jussi01> !opsnack | ardchoille
[12:05] <ubotu> ardchoille: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[12:05] <ardchoille> W00T!
[12:06] <Zombocom> ardchoille why aren't you an admin here
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> cat sleep > /usr/ardchoille
[12:06] <Zombocom> you're the only person who really helps people out
[12:06] <Zombocom> all the time
[12:06] <Zombocom> there are people that help out really well some of the time
[12:06] <tekteen> agreed
[12:06] <Zombocom> but almost every time I come in here i get helped by ardchoille
[12:07] <jussi01> hehe
[12:07] <tekteen> !helpersnack | ardchoille
[12:07] <ubotu> ardchoille: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[12:07] <ardchoille> It's because I have no life, lol
[12:07] <jussi01> ardchoille: what are you on... this _is_ life...
[12:07] <ardchoille> hehe
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> is there any way to extract the SSID you are connected to wirelessly?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> i want just the ssid. I am connected to my network but i was hoping i could use in in some scripts
[12:12] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: u mean using iwconfig?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> tekteen, i just want to extract which ssid i'm connected to for use in scripts
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig
[12:13] <tekteen> ok
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> tekteen, iwconfig may be good too
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> i basically want to grep OSU_PUB out of this example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwconfig
[12:14] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: iwconfig | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}
[12:15] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: test that out
[12:15] <postg> hello, what command to upgrade to 7.10?
[12:15] <ardchoille> !upgrade | postg
[12:15] <ubotu> postg: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:16] <tekteen> ActionParsnip?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> tekteen, i'm not on my linux system. I'm on XP Pro at work.I'll give it a go at home dude. I appreciate it :D
[12:16] <tekteen> ok
[12:16] <postg> thanks ardchoille and ubotu
[12:17] <postg> I have read that
[12:17] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: u still here?
[12:17] <ardchoille> postg: yw
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> tekteen, i want my home drive to map over wan if i am not in my own wireless lan basically
[12:17] <postg> but what the command in shell to upgrade it from 7.04->7.10
[12:17] <tekteen> ok
[12:17] <postg> not from apt-gui manager
[12:18] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: I want to add to that command
[12:18] <Arilou> I was trying to activate an ATI card following the instructions on the website, but something went wrong and it got canceled, now I get a message saying I got to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' but when I do I get a message saying that operation requires a superuser privelege, how do I cancel it so I can try again?
[12:18] <tekteen> iwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}
[12:18] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: iwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: | awk -F ':' {'print $2'}
[12:18] <postg> will this <simple> command do the upgrade? sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:18] <tekteen> ActionParsnip: where wlan0=your wlan interface
[12:19] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:19] <jussi01> Arilou: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:19] <postg> thanks
[12:20] <Arilou> jussi01: thanks a lot! ^_^
[12:20] <jussi01> :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> tekteen, cheers man i'll give it a whirl a bit later :D
[12:20] <Zombocom> if I have a custom cursor that I use in windows
[12:20] <postg> ^_^
[12:20] <Zombocom> can I transfer it over to linux?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, what format is the cursor?
[12:23] <Zombocom> let me check
[12:24] <Zombocom> .cur and .ani
[12:25] <Arilou> How do I Make sure fglrx is not disabled in the DISABLED_MODULES part: kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?
[12:25] <jussi01> Arilou: run that command from konsole and look!
[12:26] <Arilou> jussi01: oh there is a comand?
[12:26] <jussi01> Arilou: kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:26] <Arilou> jussi01: oki oki, brb
[12:26] <jussi01> :)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343748 about 70% down
[12:29] <sigma_> where are kubuntu system icons stored?
[12:29] <Arilou> jussi01: I got another window poped up, it's very weird as it seems part of a code but at least it doesn't seem to have anything disabled ( DISABLED_MODULES="" )
[12:29] <jussi01> Arilou: after you put in you password?
[12:30] <jussi01> so if there is nothing there, then fglrx is not in the disabled modules... hooray!
[12:31] <Arilou> jussi01: yup yup, after pw, I'm a bit forward on the guide now
[12:31] <jussi01> :)
[12:46] <Sbucat> !ot
[12:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !curlftpfs
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curlftpfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <wesley> hello adept crashed again and its now read only
[12:50] <ardchoille> !adeptfix
[12:50] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:02] <grtey> does someone know how to connect via noki gprs to the internet
[13:03] <jussi01> grtey: there is some info on the wiki
[13:03] <Arilou> I failed on something setting the controler for my ATI card and now, no matter how many times I restart my comp, it doesn't give me a graphic interfase, all I get is the prompt. Is there anyway to fix it or I have to reinstall for 3rd time today?
[13:04] <ardchoille> Arilou: Maybe the ati video page, under the "troubleshooting" section?
[13:04] <ardchoille> !ati
[13:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:06] <tyfon> Arilou: see if you have any /etc/X11/xorg.conf.# (some number).. backups are usually saved this way
[13:06] <tyfon> try to restore the oldest one and see what happens
[13:06] <Zombocom> when any of my friends try to install linux on their computers
[13:06] <Zombocom> jack shit happens
[13:06] <Zombocom> I mean
[13:06] <Zombocom> sorry for the swearing
[13:06] <Zombocom> it will install
[13:06] <Arilou> tyfon: omg you're my hero, let me check that
[13:06] <Zombocom> but then if you try to run it
[13:06] <Zombocom> it freezes
[13:07] <Arilou> tyfon: could you help me a bit? I'm running from CD so I don't know how to get there
[13:07] <tyfon> do you know what partition you installed to?
[13:07] <adaran> hey everyone
[13:07] <Arilou> tyfon: it's the only linux partition so I hope so
[13:08] <adaran> where can i find the current maintainer apt key?
[13:08] <tyfon> Arilou: press the computer next to the K menu and select storage media
[13:08] <tyfon> se if anyone is the same size as your linux partition
[13:09] <Arilou> tyfon: uid 999
[13:09] <tyfon> uid 999? :p
[13:10] <Arilou> tyfon: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[13:10] <tyfon> oh ok
[13:10] <tyfon> open a terminal
[13:10] <Arilou> tyfon: I'm following you
[13:10] <tyfon> do you have more then one harddrive and is it ide or sata?
[13:11] <Arilou> tyfon: 2 sata
[13:11] <tyfon> and linux is on the 2nd?
[13:11] <Arilou> tyfon: on the first
[13:11] <tyfon> ah ok
[13:11] <tyfon> type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[13:12] <tyfon> see if you see any drives with Linux as the system
[13:13] <Arilou> tyfon: yes I see /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3
[13:13] <tyfon> is one swap?
[13:13] <Arilou> tyfon: sda3 is  swap but I don't know what is sda2
[13:13] <tyfon> ok
[13:13] <tyfon> type sudo mkdir /linux && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /linux
[13:14] <tyfon> cd /linux/etc/X11/
[13:14] <tyfon> ls
[13:14] <tyfon> and you should see the files
[13:14] <Arilou> all I see with ls is Desktop (on blue color)
[13:15] <tyfon> hmm
[13:15] <Arilou> no wait
[13:15] <Arilou> I see some files, some config.0 one
[13:15] <tyfon> xorg.conf?
[13:15] <Arilou> xorg.conf.original-0
[13:16] <tyfon> try sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[13:16] <tyfon> sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf
[13:16] <tyfon> and see if you get graphics when you start the system
[13:16] <Arilou> kk it renamed the xorg.conf
[13:17] <tyfon> are there noone that looks like xorg.conf.1?
[13:17] <Arilou> nop, no one
[13:17] <tyfon> well see if the original-0 works at least
[13:17] <tyfon> :)
[13:18] <Arilou> xorg.conf and a wavy symbol like - like xorg.conf- but with a wavy -
[13:18] <tyfon> oh
[13:18] <tyfon> try sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf instead then :)
[13:19] <Arilou> one second I can't make that symbol, I'll try to set my keyboard to spanish, maybe that way I can
[13:20] <Arilou> I can't make that wavy symbol =(
[13:21] <tyfon> hmm
[13:21] <tyfon> you can copy/paste it :)
[13:21] <Arilou> in windows I just press and hold ALT + 126 and I get that wavy thingie
[13:21] <Arilou> isn't there a similar way?
[13:22] <ardchoille> Arilou: The key to the left of the "!" key?
[13:22] <Arilou> no, the ~
[13:22] <jussi01> Arilou: which keyboard layout?
[13:22] <Arilou> oh got it
[13:22] <tyfon> i'm using a norwegian keyboard and its a bit diffrent here :p
[13:23] <Arilou> if I do try sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf I will have 2 xorg.conf  right?
[13:24] <Arilou> cuz we renamed the xorg.conf.original-0 to xorg.conf
[13:24] <tyfon> no it will overwrite
[13:24] <tyfon> but that is ok
[13:24] <tyfon> :)
[13:25] <Arilou> kk
[13:25] <tyfon> now you can reboot the system and see if you have graphics
[13:26] <Arilou> oki oki, if this works I may learn to do it even on that nasty prompt login
[13:26] <Arilou> so if I mess the install again I will be able to retry without reinstalling all
[13:26] <tyfon> yes.. but the files will be in /etc/X11 and not /linux/etc/X11 then
[13:26] <tyfon> if it doesnt work now try the original-0 file
[13:26] <Arilou> thanks a lot tyfon, I hope to see you here real fast and I wish you best luck ever and thanks ^_^
[13:27] <Arilou> oki oki
[13:40] <ongntwrk> hellloooooo
[13:40] <ongntwrk> :)
[13:40] <poeticrpm_> helo
[13:40] <poeticrpm_> hello*
[13:40] <ongntwrk> lol
[13:40] <Arilou> jussi01: it worked! ^_^
[13:40] <ongntwrk> tryin to install php
[13:41] <ongntwrk> its giving me problems
[13:41] <ongntwrk> an help
[13:41] <jussi01> !lamp | ongntwrk
[13:41] <ubotu> ongntwrk: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[13:41] <jussi01> Arilou: great!!
[13:41] <ongntwrk> thks
[13:42] <jussi01> :)
[13:42] <ongntwrk> but i've already installed ubunty
[13:42] <Arilou> jussi01: Arilou vs ATI drivers part 4 now....
[13:42] <ongntwrk> dont wana restart it
[13:43] <stdin> ongntwrk: that link tells you how to install apache+mysql+php on an already installed system, give it a read
[13:46] <ongntwrk> thks
[13:46] <ongntwrk> :)
[13:54] <arbus> has anyone successfully done a kubuntu-desktop install on hardy alpha1? I did a standard install and then tried to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. The dependencies are broken.
[13:56] <stdin> arbus: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[13:56] <arbus> thanks
[14:02] <Jevon> I need help setting up internet sharing between two kubuntu systems, no router. Ideas?
[14:04] <titanix88> jevon use two lan cards!
[14:04] <Jevon> both systems are networked
[14:06] <titanix88> then add aditional lan cards. it wont matter.
[14:06] <Jevon> one computer cannot be added to
[14:07] <Jevon> what would an addiditional lan card do for me anyways
[14:07] <frojnd> how can I rename more than one file extension? rename *.asp *.html  ??? like this?
[14:07] <Chousuke> install the rename utility
[14:08] <ardchoille> krename ?
[14:08] <titanix88> jeven: ohh. they r already networked! hmm...
[14:09] <titanix88> jevon firestarter can be used to easily share internet connection.
[14:10] <Jevon> is it already installed, or would I have to download it?
[14:10] <frojnd> mv *.asp *.htm   I'm trying to rename *.asp to *.html and than I get message: mv: end,*.html` not a directory ...
[14:10] <frojnd> how can I rename ?
[14:10] <Jevon> right click, hit 'rename'?
[14:11] <titanix88> jeven u will have to install it.
[14:12] <Jevon> please tell me it is not a big file
[14:13] <titanix88> its not. trust me.:D
[14:13] <Jevon> good
[14:13] <Jevon> I have a slow enough connection as it is
[14:15]  * titanix88 shares the tragedy with jevon.he doesnt have one, let alone slow.
[14:15]  * titanix88 shares the tragedy with jevon.he doesnt have one, let alone slow.
[14:15] <Jevon> I can barely call 20k dialup a connection
[14:16] <ethan_> 2
[14:16] <ethan_> hello
[14:16] <titanix88> omg. i will be glad to have a 20k connecion. its more than enogh.:o
[14:16] <ethan_> can anyone receive my message
[14:16] <titanix88> hi ethan
[14:16] <titanix88> hi ethan
[14:16] <Jevon> just forget about downloading most things
[14:17] <ethan_> why no one reply
[14:17] <ubuntu_>       
[14:17] <titanix88> jevon with wget, 20k is enough for me.:D
[14:17] <titanix88> jevon with wget, 20k is enough for me.:D
[14:18] <wesley> hello if i wanna install kde4 apps i get break
[14:18] <titanix88> ethan !
[14:19] <titanix88> hmm. i want kde4 too.
[14:19] <titanix88> hmm. i want kde4 too.
[14:19] <wesley> kde4 work pretty well but i wanna have all kde4 apps and i try in adept but it says break
[14:19] <Jevon> I sent for the 7.1 CD
[14:20] <Jevon> possible repository lock?
[14:20] <Jevon> except he left
[14:20] <wesley> its not with all
[14:21] <titanix88> guys is there new kubuntu cd out?
[14:21] <Jevon> 7.1 Gutsy Gibbon
[14:21] <wesley> a alpha
[14:22] <stdin> Jevon: 7.10, not 7.1
[14:22] <Jevon> okay, add the 0
[14:22] <stdin> Jevon: (200)7/10
[14:22] <stdin> year/month
[14:22] <stdin> the 0 matters there ;)
[14:22] <wesley> does someone know why i get break ?
[14:22] <Jevon> ah, so that is how they do the numbering
[14:23] <titanix88> i have the kubuntu 7.10 live cd. its not kde4!
[14:23] <titanix88> i guess it will be 7.10.1
[14:23] <Jevon> I know that they released KDE 4, not sure if Kubuntu has a version with it
[14:23] <stdin> titanix88: who said it would be? but there is a kde4 7.10 live cd at the link in the topic
[14:24] <titanix88> stdin : hmm...
[14:25] <icewaterman> i do not know if this is a security issue but xfs_check segfaults when run on a reiserfs partition.
[14:25] <icewaterman> i accidentally tried that (it does no damage)
[14:26] <titanix88> xfs is not reiserfs, thats why.
[14:26] <stdin> I doubt it's a security issue, but it is a bug
[14:27] <titanix88> welcome doctor willis
[14:30] <FSHero_> Hi there everyone... I heard you talk about a KDE 4 live cd. I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.10 amd64 on my Core 2 Quad.
[14:30] <FSHero_> Shall I use the 'regular' KDE3 one, or the KDE4 release candidate?
[14:31] <FSHero_> I would love to try out KDE4... but the RC2 isn't too unstable, is it?
[14:31] <Dr_willis> for kde4 - you may want to just keep testing out the live cd's
[14:31] <stdin> you want kde3, kde4 is not ready for general use yet. just install kde4 along side it
[14:31] <jussi01> !kde4
[14:31] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[14:31] <FSHero_> thanks everyone!
[14:32] <FSHero_> Is Hardy going to use KDE4?
[14:32] <stdin> nope
[14:32] <stdin> hardy is going to be a LTS, so it wouldn't be a great idea
[14:32] <wesley> http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde41un4.png  this is kde4 rc2
[14:32] <FSHero_> D'oh... but I can install KDE4 alongside KDE3 in Hardy, right?
[14:33] <stdin> wesley: looks like it
[14:33] <wesley> yes
[14:33] <stdin> FSHero_: yep
[14:33] <FSHero_> sweet!
[14:33] <wesley> kde4 is getting useable
[14:33] <Jevon> I am just goind to temporarily disconnect this external modem and hook it up to my computer. THen I can download firestarter as well as all the other programs I want
[14:33] <FSHero_> I'm looking for the performance improvements... one can never have too many performance improvements! :D
[14:34] <FSHero_> By the way: on this computer I want to install Kubuntu Gutsy amd64 on, I already have Kubuntu Feisty i386 installed.
[14:34] <Dr_willis> are you sure you need the 64bit disrots? there can be issues with them.
[14:34] <FSHero_> I have a /home partition, and I don't mind completely wiping off Feisty (as opposed to "upgrading"). How would I go about this?
[14:35] <FSHero_> Do I just use the Gutsy live-cd and format the partition that Feisty was installed to?
[14:35] <FSHero_> Dr_willis: hehe, I've been told that before. I am confident that I want to try it!
[14:35] <stdin> FSHero_: you have no choice, you can't upgrade to 64bit. you just need to choose manual partitioning when installing and choose to mount your home partition as /home
[14:35] <Dr_willis> I normally just have the installer format/install over the existing / I dont even let it mount /home yet. I then manually change the fstab so its pointing at home after i boot up.  just to be safe. Heh.
[14:36] <FSHero_> Dr_willis: oh... ok
[14:36] <Dr_willis> I mount home as /to-be-home :) just to be safe. then fix the fstab.
[14:36] <stdin> it works fine, I've used the liveCD to format / and mount /home
[14:36] <Dr_willis> but im paranoid.. since i accidently deleted home once.
[14:36] <wesley> i have wiphed vista away
[14:36] <plb> hrm there something you gotta do to get flash to work in konq in kubuntu? I have flash installed but youtube doesn't seem to work
[14:37] <FSHero_> Dr_willis: aha. I see.
[14:38] <FSHero_> One last complication: This computer had Windows Vista preinstalled, then I installed Feisty. If I install Gutsy, will I still be able to boot into Vista? Will it be on the GRUB menu?
[14:38]  * genii shovels a path in, and sips his coffee
[14:39] <Dr_willis> genii,  i just got done shoveling.. Ick.
[14:39] <Dr_willis> Ice with power snow on top. So you shovel.. then have to start hacking at the ice.
[14:40] <Dr_willis> powder. :)
[14:40] <genii> Dr_willis: I had to shovel out of the house yesterday to get to work to do more shovelling. Same today. By back hurts
[14:40] <genii> By->My
[14:41] <genii> Same here with the ice underneath
[14:41] <Dr_willis> Yep. Thats why i dident shovel yesterday. :) i stayed home.
[14:41] <stdin> FSHero_: if the feisty installed detected it then so will the gutsy one. you could always copy /boot/grub/menu.lst to your $HOME so you can just copy&paste the windows entry if it doesn't detect it
[14:41] <Dr_willis> thers an excample windows entry in the menu.lst also for windows on hda1
[14:41] <FSHero_> stdin: cool, thanks
[14:46] <FSHero_> On a different computer (in fact, the very one I'm typing on now!), I want to install lirc to get the remote control that came with my Medion computer working.
[14:46] <FSHero_> Do I just follow the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[14:46] <wesley> that kde4 live cd from kubuntub is no good
[14:47] <stdin> FSHero_: I guess it's worth a go
[14:48] <fairman> hi, does somebody use applet rss4in1 ?
[14:48] <Anpu> hello, anyone knows how to make integral suign into word and latex? :)
[14:48] <Anpu> sign*
[14:49] <FSHero> Ahh... finally, I can have my name back! :)
[14:49] <stdin> you could have just ghosted it
[14:50] <stdin> /ns ghost <nick_to_kill> <password>
[14:55] <genii> work /away
[15:01] <dfaure> network configuration bug in gutsy? says "The default Gateway IP address is invalid", (using manual IP configuration) I'm sure it's correct, have been using those network settings for years...
[15:01] <neville> Is it at all possible to clear the RAM?
[15:04] <kub^> dfaure: have you checked you have the right subnet mask for your network ?
[15:05] <dfaure> kub^: I always used 192.168.0.x with netmask of 255.255.255.0  -- but maybe that's not the official netmask for this subnet
[15:06] <dfaure> (and gateway is 192.168.0.254)
[15:06] <iof4> kaffeine hangs after saying "KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one..." any idea?
[15:06] <kub^> dfaure that sounds correct
[15:07] <dfaure> yeah looks like a bug....
[15:07] <dfaure> I guess I'll hand-edit config files like I always did, instead :)
[15:07] <kub^> :)
[15:11] <ScottG> anyone here messing with KDE4? How on earth do you make the taskbar smaller? :)
[15:12] <mrdigital> ScottG
[15:12] <mrdigital> u mean the kicker?
[15:12] <ScottG> yeah, sorry
[15:12] <emilsedgh> ScottG: no way!
[15:12] <ScottG> right clicking it does nothing..
[15:12] <mrdigital> right click the kicker
[15:12] <mrdigital> yes
[15:12] <mrdigital> look for configure panel\
[15:12] <mrdigital> its in the uhm appperance section\
[15:12] <emilsedgh> mrdigital: he said KDE4 which has no kicker
[15:13] <mrdigital> oh?
[15:13] <ScottG> it's something on the bottom..
[15:13] <ScottG> call it what you will..
[15:13] <dfaure> it's called the panel again :-)
[15:13] <ScottG> it's HUGE by default.. jusdt messing around and would like to make it smaller..
[15:13] <emilsedgh> ScottG: i didnt find a GUI for that, maybe it will come soon, maybe you could change that by altering the plasma config files in you ~/.kde4
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:20] <emilsedgh> BluesKaj: hey, wb
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hi emilsedgh, thx
[15:21] <emilsedgh> BluesKaj: i love this 'Howdy All'
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:21] <BluesKaj> just a friendly greeting
[15:21] <trappist> I've installed kde4 on gutsy, decided it's not quite there yet, and went back to kde3, and now it's all busted.  right-clicking the desktop doesn't do anything.  kicker only wraps around 3 sides of the compiz cube.   alt-f2 doesn't do anything.  alt-space does nothing even though katapult is running.  any ideas?
[15:22] <noaXess> i have connectet an mp3 player from iriver.. it will be show in lsusb but not automatically mounted..
[15:22] <noaXess> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 4102:1126 iRiver, Ltd.
[15:22] <noaXess> what device need i to mount manually?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> katapult hardly works for me on kde3, trappist.
[15:23] <trappist> noaXess: there should be several lines related to attaching the device in the output of dmesg, and one of them should tell you the device
[15:23] <trappist> BluesKaj: it worked fine for me until I installed kde4
[15:24] <trappist> I'm worried it messed something up in my ~/.kde
[15:24] <BluesKaj> kde4 ,is not ready period ...it breaks a lotta systems
[15:24] <trappist> I know it's *supposed* to use ~/.kde4, but there are entries in my .xsession-errors that say it's poking around in ~/.kde
[15:25] <noaXess> trappist: have only this..
[15:25] <noaXess> new fill speed USB.... and next line confguration #1 chosen...
[15:26] <brkkgn> slm
[15:26] <brkkgn> hiyaa
[15:26] <trappist> noaXess: if it's a mass-storage device and you have the usb-storage module loaded and the device is supported, there should be more than that
[15:26] <BluesKaj> trappist, , there's a site that gives a tutorial on how to rid your setup of any residual kde4 files and libs ...try searching google-linux
[15:26] <brkkgn> i m burak
[15:26] <trappist> BluesKaj: cool, thanks
[15:27] <FSHero> Hi everyone... I'm trying to get my x10 (I think) remote control working with my computer following the instructions on:
[15:27] <FSHero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[15:27] <brkkgn> i dont know install programs for ubuntu
[15:27] <brkkgn> send me help
[15:27] <brkkgn> plzzz
[15:28] <FSHero> I've got as far as running "sudo depmod -a"
[15:28] <ScottG> alright.. KDE3 still working.. KDE4 is pretty sloppy for being an RC..
[15:28] <brkkgn> brkkgn@hotmail.com
[15:28] <brkkgn> add me
[15:28] <brkkgn> for horny gils (6)
[15:28] <FSHero> I was about to create a /etc/lirc/lircd.conf when I decided to try the buttons on my remote "for fun" :)
[15:29] <ScottG> no ops in here I see..
[15:29] <FSHero> And... it seems to work on the whole already! So is it worth continuing with the instructions?
[15:29] <ScottG> thank you
[15:29] <ubuntu_> i think it sad that there are no games on the live cd and that msn does not workm
[15:29] <trappist> np
[15:30] <trappist> haven't whipped out my @ in so long I almost forgot how
[15:30] <rothchild> is kde 4 worth trying yet?
[15:30] <ubuntu_> yes its worth trying
[15:30] <trappist> rothchild: my recently-formed opinion is no
[15:30] <ScottG> I'm trying it and I don't know.. it's rough..
[15:30] <trappist> rothchild: if you want to check it out, I recommend creating a new user account for it so it doesn't muck with your ~/.kde
[15:30] <ScottG> I'd say no.. just my opinion..
[15:31] <ubuntu_> but you need to install a bunch off apps after you did the install like the tut on kubuntu.org
[15:31] <ScottG> maybe a live cd to satisfy curiousity..
[15:31] <rothchild> I've just come in so missed what's been going on, what are the main showstoppers?
[15:31] <ubuntu_> kde4 live cd sucks
[15:31] <ktosia> some fatass kicked me from ##ubuntu :-&
[15:31] <ktosia> how to setup TOR then?
[15:31] <rothchild> trappist good tip thank you
[15:31] <ktosia> s/##/#
[15:32] <trappist> rothchild: main one for me was I couldn't get compiz to *not* start, and it doesn't play nice with kde4's compositing
[15:32] <trappist> rothchild: that and it broke my kde3 :)
[15:32] <rothchild> ouch
[15:32] <ubuntu_> trappist in kde4 got its own compisting
[15:32] <trappist> ubuntu_: yeah, but I can't stop compiz from starting, and they kinda clash
[15:33] <ubuntu_> i dont like compiz that fuckes kde up
[15:33] <trappist> ktosia: I'm pretty fat myself.  please be polite.
[15:33] <trappist> !language
[15:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:33] <trappist> c'mon guys
[15:33] <ktosia> ok, so, politelly, how to set up tor?
[15:34] <ubuntu_> but kde4 will become the linux wow
[15:34] <ktosia> ubuntu_: huh?
[15:34] <trappist> ktosia: and, politely, it's common practice to put some effort into research yourself, so you can ask *specific* questions when you get stuck.
[15:34] <rothchild> are you being ironic ubuntu_?
[15:34] <ubuntu_> vista is the windows wow and kde4 will be the linux wow
[15:35] <rothchild> oh dear, you are, that doesn't bode well for kde4 then
[15:35] <ktosia> ubuntu_: minds boggles, doesn;t it
[15:35] <ubuntu_> no just comparing XD kde3 is like the beter XP  and kde4 becomes the modern desktop who kicks vista wow
[15:36] <rothchild> ktosia have you tried this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-tor-with-vidalia-gui-on-ubuntu.html#more-244
[15:38] <ubuntu_> i think kde4 looks a bit like mac
[15:38] <ScottG> I have to say that Kubuntu 7.10 has worked really well for me. It's almost boring, nothing to fix.
[15:39] <ScottG> a little..
[15:39] <noaXess> trappist: it is a fresh install... need i install some more usb features?
[15:39] <rothchild> ScottG I know what you mean
[15:39] <trappist> noaXess: if it's a usb-storage device, no, you shouldn't.  but if it doesn't have that kind of interface, you may need to install something that specifically supports that device.
[15:40] <ScottG> one minor thing.. I can't turn off the darned PC speaker.. it's off in kmix..
[15:40] <noaXess> trappist:  hm.. under windows it is not a really usb-storage.. it is called as iclix...
[15:41] <ScottG> if I back up and it won't go back anymore I have to hear the PC speaker beeping..
[15:41] <rothchild> I had that, turn off 'master mono'
[15:41] <ScottG> no option for master mono..
[15:42]  * dfaure reported the kde-systemsettings bug now
[15:42] <rothchild> oh! spoils that plan then
[15:43] <rothchild> took me a while to twig but that's where it was on mine
[15:43] <ScottG> it's not a big deal.. minor annoyance..
[15:43] <trappist> noaXess: if it's usb-storage, under windows you should be able to mount it as a drive
[15:43] <trappist> noaXess: what's the device again?
[15:44] <ScottG> Kubuntu has worked so well I've not been using my PCLOS partition..
[15:44] <eshat> hi all,.. how do i switch to ubuntu testing ???
[15:44] <rothchild> on a bit of a tangent does anyone know about using xampp on a pendrive?
[15:45] <rothchild> eshat you can start in #ubuntu+1
[15:45] <trappist> eshat: if you mean the "next" version of ubuntu... what rothchild said
[15:45] <llutz> rothchild: theres a win-solution on portable-apps.com http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
[15:46] <trappist> eshat: but in general it's not organized like debian.  we don't have stable, unstable, testing, experimental etc.
[15:46] <rothchild> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha1
[15:47] <rothchild> llutz that is as far as I got, I wanna be able to carry this: www.eyeos.org around with me
[15:47] <frqw> my cd drive is locked, any way to force it to open? (it's not mounted)
[15:48] <rothchild> It seems like I can run apache off the pendrive with portable firefox and have my own portable os without having to boot from usb etc (and get in trouble with IT at work! ;-))
[15:48] <trappist> frqw: if it's really not mounted it should open.  you could try umount -l, and if that doesn't work it should have a tiny hole you can stick a paperclip into to eject it.
[15:49] <noaXess> trappist: ok i see.. this iriver device has two ways for connection..a micro$oft like an a normal usb storage connection..
[15:49] <rothchild> frqw if it's not spinning you can use an unrolled paperclip in the lilttle hole on the front
[15:49] <eshat> trappist: ,... hmm i thought it s similar to debian ,... so it's not that stable like testing in debian ???
[15:49] <trappist> eshat: right, we have a 6 month release cycle, and you can always try the next version, currently "hardy heron"
[15:50] <rothchild> eshat, no. Ubuntu take a six monthly snapshot of SID and try to stablise it (because they only do 2 arch's rather than debians 15 or so)
[15:50] <eshat> trappist: how do i test it ,... do i have to change gutsy in sources.list to hardy ???
[15:51] <frqw> ugh my paperclip is stuck in that hole
[15:52] <frqw> ok it worked, but once i close it again it gets locked...
[15:52] <rothchild> frqw do you have another optical drive to test if it is a soft or hardware issue?
[15:53] <frqw> uh, no
[15:54] <bassem> when i try to copy files to my flash usb ... error sayd cant write to /usb location
[15:57] <bassem> when i try to copy files to my flash usb ... error sayd cant write to /usb location
[15:58] <BluesKaj> !patience | bassem
[15:58] <ubotu> bassem: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:59] <Lynoure> bassem: how are you copying the files? usually usb sticks don't end up to /usb but under /media
[16:00] <bassem> Lynoure: this is the exact error ... "Could not write to /media/disk/filename"
[16:00] <eshat> Is it dangerous to install kde4 ,.. could it harm my kde3 installation ?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> eshat, yes
[16:01] <eshat> BluesKaj: :(
[16:02] <eshat> i cant wait 24 days
[16:02] <BluesKaj> if you aren't sure wait for the official release ..some ppl have had success with the RC2 but not many that i know
[16:03] <jsl> I've got a laptop that I'm using together with a docking station, and after some headakes with ati's drivers, I got the setup working with both the external lcd and the internal lcd (dual head). But when I take the laptop home the second screen isn't attached, and among others, firefox tries to start in it's view, but dies trying. Ideas as to how this would be resolved?
[16:04] <onishidato> how can i open a FAT32 partrition?
[16:04] <Lynoure> bassem: And it is not full or write protected?
[16:04] <jsl> when I enter system settings, it claims I've got one monitor with a resolution of 3360x1050 (while in reality I've got two monitors, both at 1680x1050)
[16:04] <llutz> !vfat
[16:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:04] <llutz> onishidato: ^^
[16:05] <onishidato> llutz: thanks
[16:06] <css> I want to install irda-utils with apt-get from konsole on any mirror the file is giving at unpaking an 127 eror I have tried to force install and nothing same trouble
[16:06] <llutz> css: send a bug-report to maintainer
[16:07] <stdin> !bug
[16:07] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[16:07] <bassem> Lynoure: no its not
[16:07] <css> maintainer?
[16:07] <css> what's that
[16:08] <Lynoure> bassem: what the filesystem on the usb?
[16:08] <llutz>  css  the one who is responsible for that package
[16:09] <css> ok but how I contact him
[16:09] <llutz> css: his name, email: "aptitude show irda-utils"
[16:10] <llutz>  !bug| css but have a look on this:
[16:10] <ubotu> css but have a look on this:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[16:11] <bassem> Lynoure: i have no idea ... anyway i can know this ?
[16:11] <lololo> guys do you know how to set up sharing in network&connectivity in System settings?
[16:11] <css> thanks
[16:12] <Lynoure> bassem: do  mount   and it's there on the line for your usb stick, in the end or before the parenthesis. If there is anything in parenthesis, that is also important to note
[16:12] <BluesKaj> lololo, do you have samba installed ?
[16:13] <Zombie> Anyone familiar with lockup issues under Ubuntu Gutsy if LDAP is enabled in nsswitch?
[16:13] <Zombie> I just found out that was the culprit for yesterday's lockup.
[16:13] <Zombie> If the LDAP Server is unreachable, Ubuntu Freezes.
 nop shall i sudo apt-get install samba? or i need to install something else to make it work through the control panel GUI?
[16:14] <wesley> adept did crashed and its closed cplease help
[16:15] <ardchoille> !adeptfix
[16:15] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:16] <BluesKaj> lololo, install samba yes. use konqeror for the gui/browser..it integrates nicely with samba ..to find you network shares just type smb:/ in the konq addressbar , once samba is installed and you've set the shares you want
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !samba | lololo
[16:17] <ubotu> lololo: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[16:17] <lololo>  <BluesKaj>  thanks
[16:19] <BluesKaj> lololo, hope it works for you :)
[16:20] <lololo>  <BluesKaj>  hehe me too :) i want to tranfer a lot of stuff and don't want to do manually with nc ;)
[16:20] <BluesKaj> lololo, what kind of network are you working with . i might have a few more hints
[16:22] <lololo>  <BluesKaj> 2 kubuntu boxes, i want to transfer like 5 GB
[16:22] <BluesKaj> lololo, that should be a breeze then :)
[16:23] <kazanbiev> clear
[16:24] <kazanbiev> helo
[16:24] <BluesKaj> lololo, I'm sharing files with wifes windows pc and it's easy on Gutsy
[16:25] <BluesKaj> !hi | kazanbiev
[16:25] <ubotu> kazanbiev: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:25] <lololo>  <BluesKaj>  hmm so i installed the samba server on both boxes... now i simply select the folders i want to share?
[16:26] <Blueska>  HI
[16:26] <BluesKaj> lololo, open konq nad type smb:/ in the addressbar and wait for 20 secs to see what comes up
[16:27] <Blueska> Hi
[16:27] <lololo>  <BluesKaj> i get an error that nothing can be found...
[16:27] <lololo>  <BluesKaj> could my router block the traffic?
[16:28] <bazhang> hi BluesKa
[16:28] <florianr> Hello!
[16:28] <florianr> I am looking fo DVDauthoring software ... it should be quite simple, just burn an avi file with simpple menu on a dvd nothing special ....
[16:29] <BluesKaj> lololo, reboot both boxes
[16:29] <florianr> What should I use?
[16:29] <llutz> florianr: qdvdauthor, kmediafactory
[16:30] <BluesKaj> florianr, K3B burns, K9copy authors , as does tovid
[16:32] <florianr> llutz: I allready installes kmediafactory ... but when adding my avi file I says:
[16:32] <florianr> Kann Datei /home/florian/brandes/verabschiedung_brandes.avi nicht hinzufgen
[16:32] <hadawie> hi there, am kinda new to KDE, can anyone tell me if there is a defualt folder for the themes that must be dropped at in order to fully implement them ?!?!
[16:33] <llutz> florianr: encode it to mpeg in avidemux before
[16:33] <Silvister> how to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)
[16:33] <BluesKaj> florianr, perhaps asking in #kubuntu-de , would help explain your error message
[16:34] <hadawie> i've downloaded many themes, the colors style gets changed, while the desktop wallpaper doesnt!! :S
[16:34] <llutz> BluesKaj:no probs,  i'm german too
[16:34] <llutz>  ;9
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ok  :)
[16:35] <Silvister> in giving ssh accounts to my pc users...how to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)
[16:35] <florianr> llutz: Hmm I am not verry familiar with dvd stuff, but the file comes direkt from a selfmade dvd, so it should be the right mpeg format shouldn'T it?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> florianr, excuse me for inyerupting , but does your dvdplayer play DIVX files , if so there's no need to transcode avi files , just burn them direct
[16:36] <llutz> florianr: dvd-files usually aren't avi-files, maybe they're encoded before.
[16:36] <lololo> back
[16:36] <lololo> i still have a problem with this
[16:36] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[16:37] <lololo> it finds the folder but when i press on the folder i get something like folder does not exist...
[16:37] <florianr> llutz: May be the file extension .avi is wrong? How could I check what encoding that vide has?
[16:37] <llutz> florianr: file file.avi
[16:38] <BluesKaj> lololo, open system settings/networking/and mark zerconf browsing in zerconf service discovery
[16:39] <melsani> hug
[16:40] <florianr> llutz: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video:, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
 they are both marked -Enable Zeroconf network browsing  -Browse local network
[16:40] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> lololo, open the file properties and use the share option on those files
[16:42] <llutz> florianr: since avi is just a container and no own format, i don't know what that is :)
[16:42] <bazhang> florianr: what about vlc; will that open it?
 done
[16:43] <BluesKaj> florianr, pass the cursor over the file and look for someting like Divx or Xvid in the dialog
[16:43] <Silvister> in giving ssh accounts to my pc users...how to restrict access to one directory and give installing rights (with protecting the file system)
[16:43] <BluesKaj> lololo, it should work now ...if not i don't know what to do next
[16:44] <zphinx> Does the grub version that comes with kubuntu funk up the mbr? for some reason i cant boot a XP CD without a black screen on a puter i installed kubuntu on lately.
 i still can see only the folder name and not its contents
 i have put an x to the option inherit permissions from the parent directory
 but still i cannot finsd the folder contents
 could there be the NTFS file system's fault?
[16:46] <Silvister> do i need open-ssh to let others ssh acces on my pc?
 the folder is on a separate partition under NTFS
[16:46] <stdin> Silvister: you need "openssh-sever"q
[16:46] <stdin> minus the 'q'
[16:47] <BluesKaj> lololo, then you'll have to set that partition up to share
[16:47] <zphinx> Anyone?
[16:47] <Silvister> stdin some body told me i just need sshd... ?
[16:48] <stdin> Silvister: openssh-sever installs the sshd binary
[16:48] <stdin> zphinx: the mbr has nothing to do with booting CDs
[16:48] <BluesKaj> lololo, that NTFS partition should be listed in network profiles
[16:49] <zphinx> stdin: This has never happend before i installed kubuntu. i reckon something has happend.
[16:49] <Silvister> stdin so if i only have sshd . will i be able to do the same job?
[16:49] <stdin> zphinx: booting from CD is set in the BIOS, if the kubuntu liveCD boots then it's probably the XP CD
[16:50] <zphinx> Two of them? one with sp1 and one with sp2?
[16:50] <stdin> Silvister: where would you get sshd from?
[16:50] <zphinx> One being professional, the other one being corporate.
[16:50] <stdin> zphinx: does the kubuntu live cd boot?
 gotta go for now, thanks for the help :) i'll look at it later again...
[16:50] <Silvister> stdin apt-get?
[16:50] <zphinx> yeah, anything with linux on it boots.
[16:50] <sinthetek> i was hoping someone could help me with my kubuntu installation to gutsy. it seemed to work ok after reboot but yesterday after a power outtage it seems udev/device mapper or whatever is having issues with my home partition
[16:51] <stdin> Silvister: so just install "openssh-server" then it will install and setup a ssh server for you automatically
[16:51] <Silvister> k
[16:51] <stdin> zphinx: it's nothing to do with linux then, it cannot alter the bios and the kernel isn't even loaded if you're booting from CD
[16:52] <Silvister> stdin how to realltime moniter ssh login activites?
[16:52] <sinthetek> although i can mount and fsck the drive fine from debian install cd in rescue mode, ubuntu continually says 'resource unavaiable' or 'partition busy or already mounted' despite contents of /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts
[16:52] <zphinx> stdin: and you wouldnt think the windows install reads the format of the mbr upon booting?
[16:52] <stdin> Silvister: the commands "who" and "w" are good to see who's logged in
[16:52] <stdin> zphinx: the CD? no it dose not
[16:53] <stdin> zphinx: it can install to a totally blank HDD and ones with GRUB
[16:53] <GLADtr> say me please - how to enable firewall(netfilter/iptables) on my mychine
[16:53]  * stdin speaks from experience here
[16:53] <stdin> !firewall | GLADtr
[16:53] <ubotu> GLADtr: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:53] <Silvister> stdin - how to see activity and commands given in their shell ?
[16:54] <sinthetek> since ubuntu can access / partition on same drive and debian's rescue mode fsck says partition is fine and i can mount it fine from there, it seems most likely the cause is some sort of problem in ubuntu's uuid or coldplug or udev implementation or something
[16:54] <stdin> Silvister: "w" can show what command is currently running, as to see exactly what going on in a shell then you'll have to google
[16:54] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[16:54] <sinthetek> says /home partition is fine*
[16:54] <Silvister> stdin how to use "w"
[16:54] <stdin> Silvister: type w into konsole
[16:55] <stdin> (and press enter)
[16:55] <Silvister> k
[16:55] <Silvister> thx!
[16:56] <Silvister> stdin lastly . can you tell me how do shell providers for eggdrops work. they give installing rights. but their file system is also protected. and they make user confined to one directory only.. how?
[16:57] <stdin> Silvister: that's a quite complicated thing to explain, it involves chroots and jails
[16:58] <stdin> Silvister: if you really want to know exactly how you should email one of them and ask how they do it
[16:58] <Silvister> stdin ic.. i wonder how is the chrooted user going to get access to the compile tools?
[16:58] <Silvister> stdin ok... nice idea...
[16:58] <Silvister> stdin thanks ! :)
[16:58] <stdin> you can install gcc/g++ in the chroot ;)
[16:59] <stdin> as an example, all ubuntu packages are built in a chroot
[16:59] <Silvister> hmm.
[17:00] <maninder> omg i restarted and compiz isnt working no more
[17:01] <maninder> to enable it should i type in emerald --replace
[17:03] <bazhang> compiz --replace in the run commmand box
[17:03] <bazhang> command
[17:03] <maninder> thanks alot
[17:03] <maninder> how come when i restart it disapears
[17:04] <maninder> its pritty wierd
[17:04] <El_Horror> emerald --replace, with compiz --replace the menu titlebar dont see
[17:04] <bazhang> not sure--I try not to restart :}
[17:05] <Minnozz> Hi, anybody knows why nautilus has 100% CPU load ?
[17:05] <bazhang> open top or htop Minnozz and take a look
[17:05] <fgeyser> can someone please lend me a hand with my internet connection ?
[17:06] <Minnozz> bazhang: yeah I did that,  6156 minnozz   25   0 96440  45m  13m R  100  4.5 122:57.77 nautilus
[17:06] <fgeyser> i cant open any web pages ?\
[17:06] <El_Horror> tell me fgeyser
[17:06] <fgeyser> i cant open any web pages ?\
[17:06] <El_Horror> what is the error?
[17:07] <fgeyser> looks like it cant resolve the dns host
[17:07] <bazhang> Minnozz: trying killing the process
[17:07] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[17:07] <Minnozz> bazhang: ehm, is that smart?
[17:07] <Minnozz> isn't nautilus the window manager?
[17:09] <fgeyser> any ideas ?
[17:10] <El_Horror> fgeyser, you use pppoeconf for your internet connection?
[17:10] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[17:10] <fgeyser> no vodafone mobile connect manager
[17:11] <fgeyser> it connects at 3G but will not display any webpages " cannot connect to host"
[17:12] <bazhang> nautilus is ubuntu, right? Minnozz
[17:12] <Minnozz> bazhang: ooh I don't know, I do have ubuntu-desktop installed
[17:12] <Minnozz> I'll just try
[17:13] <Minnozz> bazhang: killed it and I'm still alive, so worked =) thanks
[17:16] <fgeyser> does anyone know why i cant open web pages ?
[17:18] <Kingzar> Where can you follow new developments or plugins to install on ubuntu?
[17:18] <bazhang> fgeyser: do you have ethernet connection or wireless
[17:19] <fgeyser> 3G datacard
[17:19] <fgeyser> which i am using at the moment
[17:20] <fgeyser> if i open a web page error "cannot connect to host"
[17:21] <bazhang> Kingzar: not really sure what you mean by developments
[17:21] <Kingzar> any gadgets
[17:21] <Kingzar> like compiz fusion super karamba screenlets knotes
[17:22] <bazhang> Kingzar: digg.com, lifehacker.com they have linux sections on stuff like that
[17:22] <rothchild> kingzar try www.kde-look.org
[17:23] <bazhang> oh yeah kde-apps.org as well; nice call rothchild Kingzar (look there as well)
[17:28] <fgeyser> whois fgeyser
[17:32] <onur_> hi
[17:32] <bazhang> hi onur_
[17:32] <onur_> i cannot shutdown from GNOME on a GNOME/KDE Ubuntu system
[17:32] <onur_> the option is absent
[17:33] <onur_> any comments :)?
[17:34] <onur_> i mean it makes me log out to KDM window
[17:34] <onur_> btw here is unusually quiet today :))
[17:35] <BluesKaj> onur_, are you running both gnome and kde ?
[17:35] <onur_> anyone? :)
[17:35] <onur_> yes
[17:36] <BluesKaj> well then just do what it asks
[17:36] <onur_> :P
[17:36] <onur_> thanks mate
[17:36] <onur_> for the advise
[17:36] <onur_> there is no "shutdown" button in my GNOME closing menu
[17:37] <onur_> only "log out"
[17:37] <BluesKaj> use the shutdown on the kde login menu then
[17:37] <onur_> it doesn't make any sense to log out first and then "shutdown" and then "close
[17:37] <poison--> hi guys
[17:37] <onur_> it takes additional 20 seconds
[17:37] <bazhang> onur_: logout does not lead to the window with the restart etc window? strange
[17:38] <onur_> bazhang: no it leads to KDM manager
[17:38] <onur_> but i want a direct exit button like i used to have before installing kubuntu-desktop
[17:38] <bazhang> onur_: well this is #kubuntu :}
[17:39] <onur_> well i AM using Kubuntu :)
[17:39] <onur_> but also Ubuntu .)
[17:39] <bazhang> onur_: I thought the problem was in gnome?
[17:39] <onur_> well maybe :)
[17:39] <onur_> since you think so :D
[17:40] <onur_> i'll have a look to #ubuntu then ;)
[17:40] <Dr_willis> If using gnome. and NOT using gdm as a login manger. some of the exit/logout stuff seems to get disabled from what vie seen.
[17:40] <onur_> care
[17:40] <bazhang> no shutdown button in gnome; that would seem to be a gnome problem, correct? :}
[17:40] <onur_> willis
[17:40] <onur_> yes!
[17:40] <Dr_willis> The same seems to be true if using KDE and gdm.
[17:40] <onur_> yes this is my case
[17:40] <Dr_willis> So use GDM, if you are using gnome.
[17:40] <onur_> how can i change that setting?
[17:41] <Dr_willis> or just make a button that does a halt. :) or some other command to reboot/halt/whatever.
[17:41] <onur_> no changing the setting will do i guess... but i donno how to restore GDM
[17:41] <onur_> :)
[17:41] <bazhang> kubuntu tutorial on thursday! :}
[17:41] <Dr_willis> Not sure how gdm/kdm/gnome/kde figure this all out. but theres some isscommunication. Ive NEVER seen a 'setting' that makes it work.
[17:41] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[17:42] <Dr_willis> select gdm or kdm :)
[17:42] <onur_> ok i will give a try :)
[17:42] <onur_> thanks
[17:42] <Dr_willis> of course I dont find it much of an issue.
[17:42] <stdin> bazhang: huh?
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl> too
[17:43] <bazhang> stdin: to make a button that Dr_willis mentioned
[17:43]  * sub[t]rnl huddles coffee
[17:43] <onur_> thanks sub and bazhang
[17:43] <onur_> i will restart to see if it's working now :)
[17:43] <onur_> bbs
[17:43] <skybluesann> hi.
[17:43] <Dr_willis> you could set it up where the user can just run the halt command also. :)
[17:43] <skybluesann> nice to meet you.
[17:43] <stdin> bazhang: yeah, but kubuntu tutorials have comes and gone :)
[17:44] <skybluesann> is there anyone who can talk to me?
[17:44] <skybluesann> i'm korean.
[17:44] <bazhang> stdin: good point--I should have linked the log of that one :}
[17:44] <bazhang> skybluesann: do you have a support question?
[17:44] <skybluesann> yes.
[17:44] <skybluesann> i have question.
[17:44] <bazhang> ask away
[17:44] <skybluesann> i use ubutu......
[17:45] <skybluesann> but, i had chaned my input keyboard.
[17:45] <skybluesann> but, i can not use korean and japanese input mode in indonesian ubuntu.
[17:45] <skybluesann> how shoud i do?
[17:46] <skybluesann> do u understand?
[17:46] <bazhang> skybluesann: you were doing it previously how?
[17:46] <bazhang> yes I understand skybluesann
[17:46] <skybluesann> i can not use ime<- now.
[17:47] <skybluesann> i can use korean and japanese in japanese and korean or english mode in ubuntu.
[17:47] <bazhang> skybluesann: how were you entering japanese and korean previously? skim?
[17:48] <skybluesann> but, if i change korean or japanese to indonesian, i can not use input mode (japanese korean,)
[17:48] <skybluesann> yes.
[17:48] <skybluesann> skim.
[17:48] <skybluesann> yes, skim is working in korean or japanese ubuntu...
[17:49] <skybluesann> but, skim is not working in indonesian ubuntu.
[17:49] <skybluesann> how shoud l do?
[17:50] <skybluesann> if i want to use korean or japanese in indonesian ubuntu, how should i do?
[17:50] <bazhang> skybluesann: how about indonesian from korean or japanese? does the reverse work
[17:51] <Chase> anyone know anything about how firefox's RSS preview page works? im tryin to setup a script that'll add RSS feeds to Akregator but it doesnt look like Firefox is even trying to call the script?
[17:51] <skybluesann> only, when i change japanese or korean to indonesian, skim is not working .
[17:52] <bazhang> skybluesann: does skim work from the japanese for indonesian?
[17:52] <skybluesann> yes.
[17:52] <bazhang> skybluesann: why not do it that way then?
[17:52] <skybluesann> i don't know.
[17:53] <skybluesann> skim is not working in indonesian ubuntu.
[17:53] <skybluesann> but, skim is working in japanese, korean ubuntu.
[17:53] <bazhang> skybluesann: you said it works that way--so that way is working--why not use skim from japanese to do indonesian?
[17:54] <bazhang> skybluesann: would you prefer a channel in korean to help you?
[17:55] <skybluesann> but, maybe, another people don't know this problem...
[17:55] <skybluesann> coz i'm using indonesian as defalut input.
[17:55] <skybluesann> another korean is using english or japanese as defalut input mode.
[17:55] <bazhang> skybluesann: I have had problems with skim as well--change the default to japanese/korean and see if skim works for indonesian from there
[17:56] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[17:57] <skybluesann> but, indonesian character(letter) is alphapet....then,
[17:57] <skybluesann> in korean or japanese mode, , skim is working ....
[17:57] <skybluesann> no problem...
[17:57] <darx> why is it that ubuntu works well while kubuntu crashes and hangs a lot? Is kde buggy?
[17:58] <bazhang> skybluesann: things don't always work the way we want them to--do you want to try another way to get this to work? then try the default korean or japanese and see if indonesian works from skim
[17:58] <sylwik666> hi
[17:58] <bazhang> darx: no idea--kubuntu is fine here
[17:58] <zulma> español? speak spanish?
[17:58] <trappist> anyone know how to configure the panel in kde4?
[17:58] <sylwik666> how to change the resolution of the screen to higher?
[17:59] <bazhang> !es | zulma
[17:59] <ubotu> zulma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:59] <skybluesann> ok.
[17:59] <skybluesann> first of all, i try....
[17:59] <skybluesann> tks for ur advise.
[17:59] <bazhang> sylwik666: monitor and display
[18:00] <drbobb> damn i'm at a loss for ideas to make wireless work consistently in kubuntu
[18:00] <sylwik666> but where i cant find it
[18:00] <sylwik666> bazhang: where
[18:00] <bazhang> trappist: is it configurable? I have never figured that one out :}
[18:01] <trappist> bazhang: me neither, yet.  if it's not configurable, I'm gonna be *very* disappointed.
[18:01] <bazhang> sylwik666: system settings doensnt have anything for that? look around in the kmenu, hey?
[18:01] <bazhang> trappist: it's early days :}
[18:02] <trappist> bazhang: yeah but it's not like they're calling it pre-alpha.  they're calling it a release candidate.
[18:02] <bazhang> trappist: I'm waiting for kde4.5 :}
[18:02] <sylwik666> i have already done it,is there any command to change it?
[18:02] <sylwik666> to change the resolution
[18:03] <darx> I always get this or that thing crashed when running kubuntu. where as ubuntu runs fine
[18:03] <bazhang> sylwik666: done what? were you in administrator mode?
[18:03] <bazhang> darx: well, that is not much info to go on--my advice wouldnt help with such sparse detail :}
[18:04] <anand> #delhi
[18:04] <trappist> also I totally broked my panel by trying to drag a new widget onto it.  the left 1/4 of my panel is a white rectangle, the 2nd 1/4 is a truncated panel, and the 2nd 1/2 is empty
[18:04] <darx> its an app named apport
[18:04] <sylwik666> bazhang: i have already searched teh kmenu
[18:04] <sylwik666> nothing is there
[18:05] <drbobb> would you expect kubuntu to automagically handle insertion of a supported card into the pcmcia socket?
[18:05] <sylwik666> drbobb: nie wiesz jak zmienic rozdzielczosc pulpitu w kubuntu?
[18:06] <drbobb> system settings/ computer administration/monitor & display
[18:07] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. when my install of kubuntu says: "Kernel Alive" "Kernal direct mapping tables up til 12000000 @ 8000.e000" what do i need to do ?
[18:07] <bazhang> sylwik666: alt-f2 kcontrol
[18:07] <bazhang> sylwik666: in peripherals
[18:07] <bazhang> sylwik666: monitor and display
[18:08] <drbobb> same module as in system settings
[18:08] <bazhang> sylwik666: find it?
[18:08] <bazhang> darx: apport is a crash reporter right?
[18:08] <sylwik666> still searching it
[18:08] <Kingzar> how do you link to your hard disk?
[18:08] <bazhang> heh
[18:09] <Kingzar> external?
[18:09] <Kingzar> screen -R hellanzb
[18:09] <Kingzar>  Hellanzb.PREFIX_DIR = /media/Houston/downloads/hellanzb/'
[18:09] <Kingzar> is this not correct?
[18:14] <drbobb> wow my wireless has been holding on to my ap for a whole 15min now
[18:19] <peterpan_>  iam sharing internet throught a server connected to my lan. i want to allow a person to ssh my pc. how can i do it.?
[18:19] <fannagoganna> you need to start the ssh server on your machine
[18:19] <peterpan_> fannagoganna what is that?
[18:19] <emilsedgh> peterpan_: install openssh-server
[18:19] <bazhang> peterpan_: listen to wols in #ubuntu :}
[18:19] <fannagoganna> right
[18:21] <peterpan_> fannagoganna the ip that you can see on my whois is my server ip. my ip is 192.168.3.175 ...   if he connects  to my apperant internet ip . ie 116.71.183.228   . will he be able to connect to my pc?
[18:21] <fannagoganna> yeah, if you have the ssh server up and running
[18:21] <fannagoganna> do you have an account for him?
[18:22] <peterpan_> fannagoganna iam gona make one.
[18:22] <fannagoganna> something like "guest" for instance :D
[18:23] <peterpan_> fannagoganna i wanna make a similer account like the shell providers do.. for eggdrops.. will that be possible?
[18:24] <fannagoganna> yeah, I mean you can create an account using kuser or whatever the gnome equivalent is -- with password and home directory
[18:25] <peterpan_> fannagoganna ok. but i want that to be limited to one directory only. and protect the file system. but.. at the same time. i want him to be able to install apps (ie. eggdrop)
[18:25] <fannagoganna> hmm, that is complicated -- don't know how to do that. I mean, you can give him administrative privileges so he can use sudo
[18:27] <peterpan_> ic
[18:27] <peterpan_> fannagoganna i think theres no need for sudo to do  ./configure make make install     ?
[18:27] <fannagoganna> ah ok
[18:27] <peterpan_> is there?
[18:28] <fannagoganna> I didn't know if he was installing system wide
[18:28] <fannagoganna> if he's just doing that, then no
[18:28] <fannagoganna> I guess make him a member of as few groups as possible, using users-admin (GNOME program to administer users)
[18:29] <Ayabara> I have a creative zen player. is it possible to mount it like a normal disk under linux?
[18:30] <peterpan_> k
[18:34] <wesley> hello i goet broken by kde4 apps installing does someone know how to fix?
[18:35] <trappist> wesley: I had to cd into /var/cache/apt/archives and sudo dpkg -i --force-all *kde4*.deb
[18:35] <trappist> wesley: and then run sudo apt-get -f install
[18:40] <Dr_willis> :) Thats  sounds like a good reason for me to keep testing kde4 with the live cds only :)
[18:44] <wesley> Dr_willis but with live cd is no fun
[18:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:45] <Dr_willis> i test them out, then give the live cd to my friends at work for them to test out.
[18:45] <trappist> so far I hate plasma.  not the idea, but there's a lot of work left to be done.  starting with panel configurability.
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Every week they are.. "Ok where the latest kde4 live cd at!" :)
[18:45] <wesley> i underfind it as a waste from my cd,s
[18:46] <Dr_willis> I only got a stack of like....299+ cd's here. :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> they are getting old. A few yrs back there was a big sale on thm at xmas.. so guess what 4 different people got me for xmas..
[18:47] <wesley> jep i got my cd,s also a few years XD but now i am running out of cds
[18:47] <Dr_willis> I think i got a stack of like 100 Linux disrto cd's here from over theyears also.
[18:47] <Dr_willis> I cleaned out a lot of the old old old ones. :)
[18:47] <wesley> i order live cds but burn them also
[18:48] <Dr_willis> ive been testing them out in vmware/virtualbox lately. saves me time.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> but ive had a few disrtos that dont boot properly in vmware/vbox. Oddly enough they do work in a real machine..
[18:49] <acemoo> if you accidently quick format a ext3 partition to ntfs, is it possible to get it back to ext3 and get ur data back?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ive never noticed a 'quick' format option for ext3
[18:50] <acemoo> for bios flashing.. had to install windows.. (sony only lets me flash from windows :S)
[18:50] <fannagoganna> nope
[18:50] <acemoo> i formatted the wrong partition :/
[18:50] <Dr_willis> in theory you could do fsck.ext3  with a different..err.. whats the name.. the data table ##
[18:50] <bazhang> acemoo: unless you were backed up, no
[18:50] <fannagoganna> yeah, it's pretty much it
[18:51] <Dr_willis> backup superblock wouldent help eh?
[18:51] <acemoo> the quickformat of windows setup basicly just allocates the space for the partition.. it doesnt really removes the data, just marks it as empty
[18:52] <Dr_willis> Oh - you quickformated it UNDER windows...
[18:52] <sigma_kubuntu> i suppose only a data recovery company can help u.
[18:52] <alesan> hi, I need some serious help :) this is getting ridiculous, gnome-users point their finger at me and laugh, not to mention windows ones... knetworkmanager won't work with wireless, I select a network I know the WPA key for and it doesn't join
[18:52] <fannagoganna> yeah, I guess so :(
[18:53] <Dr_willis> you could 'dd' the drive to a file. and try out various ways of gettign the info back
[18:53] <alesan> this happens in the office, in the apartment, at my friend's house...
[18:53] <fannagoganna> or you could try dd on it, but I don't know how to recover the data
[18:53] <sigma_kubuntu> bt that wud cost a arm and a leg
[18:53] <fannagoganna> depends -- what does this data contain?
[18:53] <sigma_kubuntu> was the data realy that important?
[18:53] <alesan> how can I "reset" knetworkmanager or is there somethng better?
[18:53] <fannagoganna> if it's work related, you might get your Co to pay for at least part of it
[18:53] <Dr_willis> fsck.ext3 /dev/whatver -b 8193           --  perhaps?
[18:54] <wesley> was python?
[18:54] <trappist> hey that reminds me.  I have a 500GB filesystem, like 5% full, that I want to image to a 400GB drive.  if I use dd, will that work? or do I need an identical-size drive?
[18:54] <acemoo> fannagoganna: im a student, doubt school would care about me screwing up with my homework and other stuff i got..
[18:54] <Dr_willis> how do ya fsck a dd drive image file anyway?
[18:54] <Dr_willis> trappist,  if its so empty.. ehy not just copy the files over?
[18:54] <fannagoganna> perhaps now is the best time to smoke 5 blunts and listen to Wu-Tang :)
[18:54] <fannagoganna> 8 Diagrams -- as good as the old Wu-Tang
[18:55] <Dr_willis> There are drive image tools that can compress.
[18:55] <trappist> Dr_willis: it's a whole OS, so I want to image it
[18:55] <Dr_willis> mondo/mindi come to mind. :)
[18:55] <Dr_willis> 5% of 500gb is still.. what..  25gb?
[18:55] <trappist> Dr_willis: that's backup/restore software iirc
[18:55] <Dr_willis> then theres the reserved space..
[18:55] <fannagoganna> yep
[18:55] <trappist> yeah, that should work...
[18:56] <Dr_willis> then theres the good old tar methods. :)
[18:56] <trappist> Dr_willis: yeah but I'm not just transferring files
[18:56] <Dr_willis> You want to clone the 500gb hd to the 400gb hd? OR what then.. :) im missing somthing here.
[18:57] <trappist> Dr_willis: basically I have an OS installed on a *bad* 500G drive, and I have a good 400G drive I want to replace it with
[18:57] <Dr_willis> ive seen tar with a lot of optuins used to clone one os/hd to another
[18:57] <trappist> Dr_willis: and it's a server, so I want to do it as quickly as possible to minimize the downtime
[18:58] <Dr_willis> of course the fstab and uuid's will need to get tweaked.. and the grub.. and wonder what else...
[18:58] <trappist> that's probably it... actually grub shouldn't have to change
[18:58] <Dr_willis> of course theres a lot more backup/imaging tools out there
[18:58] <trappist> it'll still be hd(0,1)
[18:58] <trappist> is mondo still actively developed?  I haven't used it in like 5 years
[18:59] <Dr_willis> I havent used it in ages either.
[18:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to reformat/reinstall clean - jus to remove all the cruft i accumulate. :)
[18:59] <fannagoganna> really?? wow
[19:00] <trappist> Dr_willis: me too, but this server has a lot of hours of configuration and stuff that I'd rather not have to do again
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Of course its just me, my roms/videos/junk.
[19:00] <trappist> especially the mail stuff.  dspam, clamav, postfix, procmail...
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Right now on this box.. I have 3 external usb hd's and a external dvd burner. :)
[19:00] <Dr_willis> and 2 hds in the box..
[19:00] <Jimmy__> can some one help me with this ssh problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48562/
[19:01] <Dr_willis> close to 2gb of storage on this machine.
[19:01] <Dr_willis> oops 2TB :)
[19:01] <trappist> Jimmy__: looks like you got the wrong password
[19:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me. bye  all
[19:02] <bazhang> bye
[19:02] <llutz> Jimmy__: sure that this user is allowed to log-in?
[19:02] <Jimmy__> trappist i was checking my ssh. i tired to connect to my pc my self.  my login name is loguser1 . i gave the right password  ( provided that i am on lan for internet sharing and the ip was my server's ip.)
[19:03] <Jimmy__> llutz ^
[19:03] <trappist> Jimmy__: if you have access to the machine you're trying to connect to, check the logs for the reason for the failure
[19:04] <trappist> specifically /var/log/auth.log if it's an ubuntu/debian box
[19:05] <Jimmy__> trappist - do you think its a port forwarding problem?
[19:05] <lololo> <-back
[19:06] <trappist> Jimmy__: well it *could* be, if you're forwarding 22 to the wrong box or something, but there's no way to tell from your pastebin
[19:06] <lololo> can anyone help me with file sharing problems?
[19:07] <bazhang> lololo: can you specify?
[19:07] <Jimmy__> trappist - by default . what is  my password for ssh ?
[19:07] <trappist> Jimmy__: there is no default password
[19:07] <trappist> you set it up when you install
[19:08] <sara> My strigi died, I hav eno idea what happened but I cant start the daemon
[19:08] <llutz> Jimmy__: userpassword
[19:08] <Jimmy__> trappist i never set it up.. i just installed ssh server and ssh client
 i have installed samba but even when i have selected share (from the menu) i can see only the folder name and not its contents
[19:08] <llutz> Jimmy__: ssh is remote shell access, so you need an account (user/password) on remote machine (with sshd running)
[19:09] <trappist> Jimmy__: your ssh username/password is your system username/password.  it's not ssh-specifric
[19:09] <trappist> *specific
 i have chosen simple sharing and the other pc that i want to access the files runs also kubuntu
[19:09] <bazhang> lololo: have you asked in #samba?
[19:09] <Jimmy__> ic
[19:14] <lololo> pfff nobody is answering at #samba...
[19:14] <lololo> any other ideas for folder sharing?
[19:16] <sigma_kubuntu> shouldn't u use nfs between two kubuntu pc's?
[19:16] <sigma_kubuntu> for file sharing
 apt-get install nfs?
[19:17] <Jimmy__> llutz - trappist - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48563/
[19:18] <trappist> Jimmy__: you would say helo if you telnetted to port 25.  you don't ssh in and say helo.
[19:18] <sub[t]rnl> lololo: sudo apt-get install nfs-common
[19:18] <ScorpKing> lololo: the best way (for me anyway) is to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and set shares there.
[19:18] <Jimmy__> trappist ya .but it woked. didnt it?
[19:18] <sub[t]rnl> nfs is recommended between two *nix boxes
[19:18] <sigma_kubuntu> yeah that one. theres a nice how-to at help.ubuntu.com
[19:19] <sub[t]rnl> !nfs | lololo
[19:19] <ubotu> lololo: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[19:19] <trappist> Jimmy__: the ssh part?  yep
[19:19] <sigma_kubuntu> yup thats the link
[19:20] <Panke> n'abend
[19:20] <sigma_kubuntu> samba is for sharing with windows machines usually
[19:20] <Jimmy__> trappist  so how can i solve my problem?
[19:21] <trappist> Jimmy__: you have to figure out why the authentication is failing.  already told you how to do that if you have access to the remote machine.  if you don't, you have to talk to someone who does.
[19:21] <Panke> after reboot cant connect to icq via kopete and konqueror does not show me any files on my system / webpage. But Firefox does. Someone an idea?
[19:22] <ScorpKing> Panke: using dailup?
[19:22] <lololo> please someone tell me there is a fast gui for making the configuration on nfs :)
[19:23] <Jimmy__> trappist what can i do with telnet?
[19:23] <Panke> no static ip behind a router.
[19:24] <Panke> it did work just 3 hours ago.
[19:24] <sigma_kubuntu> lololo: file sharing applet in kcontrol
[19:24] <trappist> Jimmy__: not much, hopefully.  when ssh is available there's *no* reason to install a telnet service.  I only mentioned telnet because 'helo' is something you'd say to a mail server over telnet.
[19:24] <Panke> and konqueror does not even show me the files in my homeordner (or everywhere else)
[19:26] <troseph> After installing compizfusion I am having a weird "focus on hover" kinda thing. How do I set that back to the normal settings?
 thanks :) rebooting now
[19:26] <sub[t]rnl> troseph: in ccsm, general plugin, go to focus & raise behavior and click the "click on focus" box
[19:27] <troseph> sub[t]rnl: thank you! That was driving me crazy.
[19:32] <Panke> okay, i renamed the ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and restarted my sessions and all is just working.
[19:34] <sinthetek> is it hard to migrate an installation from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[19:35] <sub[t]rnl> sinthetek: it can be done with the kubuntu-desktop package.  There is another fairly straightforward method of removing all the gnome apps and turning it into a purekde environment.
[19:42] <trappist> sinthetek: just say sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde
[19:42] <rcg1984> Please have a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48570/ -Thanks
[19:42] <trappist> the kde part is optional.  installs a lot of extra kde packages.
[19:42] <ScorpKing> what is the menu in kde4 called again?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> rcg1984: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /home/richard/.kde/ should fix that
[19:44] <trappist> ScorpKing: I think it's just an 'application launcher' widget for the panel
[19:46] <ScorpKing> trappist: nope. it was developed by suse or novell i think. still searching online..
[19:46] <rcg1984> ScorpKing: Thanks, I think that may have worked
[19:47] <ScorpKing> rcg1984: you're welcome. it's a known permission problem with dolphin as far as i know.
[19:47] <trappist> is that one of those issues where an app runs as sudo and creates root-owned files in the user's home dir?
[19:48] <rcg1984> ya, I was wondering that myself.  I installed it right out of the box(so to speek) and that kept happening to me
[19:48] <trappist> like vim creates ~/.viminfo as root if the first thing you do on a new system is, say, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:48] <ScorpKing> trappist: it's called kickoff btw. ;)
[19:49] <trappist> ScorpKing: oh cool, never heard that before
[19:49] <tijn> hey ppl, i recently did an dist upgrade to 7.10, and now my sound output is waaay to low, ive checked alsamixers volume, it looks ok.
[19:49] <ScorpKing> trappist: here's an image of it - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2898
[19:50] <trappist> tijn: depending on your soundcard, you might want to look at 'master' and 'pcm' in addition to 'volume' on your mixer
[19:50] <trappist> ScorpKing: yeah I'm looking at it here :)  just never heard it called kickoff
[19:50] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[19:51] <tijn> hm, well pcm is @ 100%, master is 0% but it's unchangeable
[19:51] <trappist> ScorpKing: I don't suppose you've found a way to configure the panel
[19:51] <boubbin> is it possible to write something to konsole with dcop ?
[19:51] <trappist> boubbin: I'm pretty sure I've done that before
[19:51] <ScorpKing> trappist: not using kde4 at all. will take a look next year
[19:51] <boubbin> trappist how ?
[19:51] <batis610> I had try to install my video card two months ago(i had work to so i stoped till now)... i dont remember wich tutorial i'v followed, and it seems that it was intalled(i've an ATI RADEON x1650 PRO), but the display is slower than before... how can i proceed now please
[19:51] <trappist> ScorpKing: ah
[19:52] <trappist> boubbin: I dunno, I use dcop so seldom I have to learn it again from scratch every time I touch it
[19:52] <boubbin> trappist i've checkd all the dcop functions and i cant find correct function to write something so session..
[19:52] <boubbin> ok..
[19:52] <ScorpKing> boubbin: you making service menus?
[19:54] <trappist> hrm, kdelibs5 seems to be missing libkdeprint.so.5
[19:54] <boubbin> ScorpKing im trying to make np script over ssh, from kubuntu to kubuntu with screen irssi and amarok
[19:54] <boubbin> i only need to write the np line to konsole and send it over ssh, i can do all the rest
[19:55] <ScorpKing> ah ok. sorry no help from me.
[19:55] <trappist> boubbin: I'm trying to help, but I'm in kde4 and can't start konsole due to missing library :/
[19:55] <boubbin> :/
[19:57] <tijn> trappist, it seems the only thing i can change is PCM and MIC
[19:57] <tijn> (as root)
[19:58] <sigma_> whats the best kde media player?
[19:58] <sigma_> that can play audio video and dvd
[19:58] <tijn> kaffeine is nice
[19:59] <tijn> but its what suits you best
[19:59] <pollux_> An excellent media player is vlc
[19:59] <sigma_> kaffeine looks so old for some reason, i like amarok but it only does audio
[20:00] <pollux_> Kaffeine does apparently not use w32codecs
[20:00] <ScorpKing> sigma_: try vlc. there's a lot of skins available for it
[20:01] <ScorpKing> pollux_: it does AFAIK
[20:01] <sigma_> is vlc the same as it is on windows?
[20:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[20:02] <trappist> I use mplayer for just about everything... since it'll play just about everything
[20:02] <trappist> I still use xine for dvds, since last I checked mplayer didn't have dvd menu support
[20:02] <sigma_> trappist: yeah was just about to say that
[20:02] <sigma_> trappist: how can it not support menu's though?
[20:03] <trappist> I did see on mplayer's site something about that, so I think if you built it from source (with the right options) it would support it
[20:04] <tijn> so.. can it be my sound problem has anything to do with rights?
[20:04] <trappist> oh it's there in gutsy
[20:04] <trappist> dunno if it's compiled with dvdnav support, but it's in the man page
[20:04] <trappist> tijn: can you change the volume as root?
[20:04] <tijn> nope
[20:05] <trappist> then no :)
[20:05] <trappist> what sound card?
[20:05] <tijn> (thought so) :0
[20:05] <tijn>  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[20:06] <trappist> tijn: oh, is this by chance a lenovo box?
[20:06] <tijn> nope, toshiba
[20:06] <tijn> laptop
[20:06] <trappist> ok my lenovo has the same card, similar problems
[20:06] <jussi01> !intelhda
[20:06] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:06] <trappist> oh wow
[20:06] <tijn> :)
[20:06] <trappist> thanks jussi01 :)
[20:06] <tijn> sweet
[20:07] <jussi01> :)
[20:07] <tijn> wierd though sound worked fine till i updated to 7.10
[20:07] <jussi01> tijn: yeah, its a known bug iirc.
[20:07] <trappist> tijn: me too.  it's a driver issue.
[20:08] <trappist> I had it fixed, but I rebooted and it was unfixed, and I haven't messed with it since.
[20:08] <tijn> ah ic :) well thnx for helping
[20:08] <trappist> that link is the best looking info I've seen so far on the issue
[20:09] <astan> hello folks. how can i make net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 at boot? i.e. enable forwarding of IPv4 packets at boot.
[20:09] <trappist> astan: /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:09] <astan> trappist: ah right, just found it. didn't realize it's probably the same as in *BSD which i'm used to, thanks ;)
[20:09] <trappist> actually for that particular one it seems like there's another file somewhere...
[20:09] <astan> trappist: oh. a "better" way?
[20:10] <astan> higher up in the boot-up logic?
[20:10] <trappist> astan: no, just a different config file with the same effect, specific to that one parameter
[20:11] <trappist> ok nope, it looks like that's the one :)  I'm probably thinking back to my redhat/mandrake days
[20:11] <divan_> sysctl -p astan
[20:12] <trappist> divan_: that'll apply new settings, but won't change what happens at boot
[20:12] <astan> trappist: alright, i'll go with sysctl.conf then.
[20:12] <divan_> that saves whats in /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:12] <astan> divan_: yea, good to know too. thanks.
[20:12] <trappist> that *applies* what's in sysctl.conf
[20:12] <trappist> sysctl.conf *is* the save
[20:12] <divan_> o yeah
[20:12] <trappist> :)
[20:13] <divan_> :)
[20:13] <astan> trappist: it seems there used to be a /etc/network/options in which you could set ip_forward=yes, but it's deprecated in debian nowadays.
[20:14] <trappist> astan: ah that's probably what I was thinking of.  I was just poking around /etc/network and couldn't find anything :)
[20:14] <astan> trappist: :)
[20:15] <astan> btw, do you know the difference between net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1 and net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ?
[20:15] <astan> the commented out example in sysctl.conf uses the former.
[20:16] <trappist> no, I'm not sure, but iirc the 'default' thing is the default for nics, where each nic has its own individual settings
[20:16] <astan> i see that *.conf.eth0.* et.c. is for controlling of different interfaces, but why a "default" config if there's that plain net.ipv4.ip_forward ?
[20:16] <trappist> when I set it, I do like echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[20:16] <trappist> yeah that's what I don't know
[20:17] <astan> alright, maybe net.ipv4.ip_forward is deprecated.
[20:17] <trappist> maybe ip_forward is a prerequisite for turning on forwarding for individual nics
[20:18] <astan> trappist: ah, that would make sense.. if it wasn't for the fact that i've used only net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 up until now, and it's enabled forwarding "globally".
[20:18] <trappist> right
[20:18] <astan> better not think about it too much and just uncomment the example ;)
[20:18] <trappist> maybe a question for the folks in #kernelnewbies on oftc
[20:19] <astan> that's what i like with the *BSD sysctl manpage (at least on FreeBSD), it has a short description of every variable.
[20:20] <trappist> that's in the linux-doc package here
[20:20] <trappist> err, maybe not
[20:20] <sigma_> why do gtk apps have to look so ugly in kde?
[20:21] <trappist> oh there it is...
[20:21] <astan> trappist: i don't blame linux if it doesn't have it, it's developed at a much higher pace, and probably has more sysctl's.
[20:21] <trappist> sigma_: there's a theming engine for gtk to make them look like your kde theme.  I forget which one
[20:23] <astan> trappist: hm. the linux-doc package only installed a copyright and changelog.gz file for me..
[20:23] <trappist> astan: looks like docs for this are actually missing from the kernel docs
[20:23] <trappist> astan: yeah it's in linux-doc-[version]
[20:24] <astan> trappist: ah.
[20:24] <trappist> but it's got docs for /proc/sys/fs, /proc/sys/vm, etc., but not /proc/sys/net etc.
[20:24] <trappist> apparently
[20:26] <vivek> need some help in connecting gprs through nokia data cable
[20:26] <astan> trappist: ah. i think there's some docs in it in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.22/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt.gz
[20:27] <astan> s/in it/on it/
[20:27] <trappist> astan: oh, my grep missed that somehow, good find
[20:27] <astan> sysctl docs seems to be scattered about in the docs for each subsystem.
[20:27] <trappist> yeah
[20:28] <trappist> oh grep prolly missed it because it's compressed
[20:28] <Jimmy__> my firestarter auto exists the sys tray. i have to run it again. and it again asked for a password from me. why does it disappears.?
[20:28] <vivek> i am able to chat in Konversation but unable to browse in Konqueror
[20:29] <sub[t]rnl> Jimmy__: known bug.
[20:29] <vivek> kindly help me
[20:29] <Jimmy__> sub[t]rnl how to fix it?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> vivek: are you using knetworkmanager?
[20:30] <vivek> i am using wvdial in Konsol
[20:30] <sub[t]rnl> Jimmy__: not sure if its been resolved yet.  Its strange because it will exit without any errors, so its hard to pin point.
[20:30] <vivek> i am using wvdial in Konsole
[20:30] <Jimmy__> ic
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> vivek: then kill knetworkmanager
[20:31] <trappist> ooh what's this new hotness with dpkg-buildpackage and fancy colored output
[20:31] <vivek> is there any command for that??
[20:31] <trappist> or is the hotness with make, or gcc or something
[20:32] <astan> trappist: okay, not all sysctl's seems to be documented there, but from what i can understand, using the *conf.default* will change the default for all interfaces, it can still be overridden for each interface, while i think the shorter net.ipv4.ip_forward will enable it unconditionally for all interfaces, and can't be overridden.. not sure though.
[20:32] <trappist> astan: that kinda-sorta makes sense
[20:33] <astan> ehm.. yea.. anyway. 'nuf about that. thanks ;)
[20:33] <vivek> please help me connecting GPRS through nokia mobile using KPPP
[20:33] <michele> hello everybody... with many programs i don't see windows well....i usually have black windows so i can not read. It happen with many program i try to install... do you have any suggestion?
[20:34] <vivek>  please help me connecting GPRS through nokia mobile using KPPP
[20:34] <llutz> vivek: bluetooth or usb?
[20:34] <vivek> usb
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> vivek: on your system tray there is an icon for knetwork manager... right click and select close
[20:34] <llutz> vivek: sry, no idea
[20:35] <vivek> hey <nosrednaekim>.. thanx
[20:35] <lolololol> has anyone installed kubuntu on an acer laptop?
[20:36] <jussi01> lolololol: many have, whats the problem?
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> vivek: that work?
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> lolololol: got an acer here, but the models differ very greatly
[20:36] <lolololol> the sound exit does not work on mine guys
[20:37] <lolololol> the one you plug the headphones
[20:37] <jussi01> lolololol: does any sound work?
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> lolololol: what model
[20:38] <Jimmy__> sub[t]rnl and this means that when firestarter is dead. iptables is also dead. and theres no firewall... right?
[20:38] <vivek> yaa...<nosrednaekim>
[20:38] <llutz> vivek: device should be /dev/ttyACM0 (or higher number), init-strings and dial-number depend on your mobile-provider.
 <nosrednaekim> yup all sound works normally except the three holes for sound in etc travelmate 2480
[20:38] <vivek> there is one more problem....there is no mp3 support in Amrock
[20:39] <jussi01> lolololol: try going to kmix and making sure everything is turned up/on
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> !mp3
[20:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:40] <michele>  hello everybody... with many programs i don't see windows well....i usually have black windows so i can not read. It happen with many program i try to install... do you have any suggestion?
[20:40] <michele> i have this problem even with amule
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> michele: thats a bug with compiz and nvidia
[20:41] <michele> i have intel's chipset video
[20:41] <michele> is there any solution?
 everthing seem normal, also when i press the combination Fn+up arrow that supposed to raise up volume it goes only at 11%
[20:41] <jussi01> lolololol: what kind of sound card?
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> lolololol: thats a known bug, shouldn't be affecting your sound card
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> michele: yes, increase the amount of video ram available to the video (probably the setting is in your BIOS)
 i have no clue its an onboard one
 940GML if that helps
 i think its intel
[20:43] <michele> ok thanks... i'll try
[20:45] <batis610> i tried several times before to install my video card (ATI RADEON x1650 PRO)... now i'm going to reinstall my KUBUNTU GUTSY... can anybody suggest me an efficient tutorial to follow please
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> lolololol: try unmuting all channels in kmix and maxing their volumes
[20:48] <batis610> any idea??
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> batis610: try the newest drivers
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> from the ati site
[20:50] <batis610> nosrednaekim: and how to install it??
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> batis610: let me find you the tuorial
[20:50] <batis610> nosrednaekim: ok
[20:53] <rcg1984> Does anyone know of any software that is equivalent to Quicken but open source?
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> !gnucash
[20:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnucash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> !info gnucash
[20:54] <ubuntu_> Buenas alguien de chile?
[20:54] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1746 kB, installed size 5360 kB
[20:54] <rcg1984> hrm interesting... is it indepth like quicken?
[20:54] <ubuntu_> Buenas alguien de chile?
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> rcg1984: not sure, never used it.
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> !es
[20:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:54] <rcg1984> nosrednaekim: Thanks, i'll have a look
[20:54] <kristian_> hi kann mir 1 helfen krieg den cube nich mehr hin hab neue grafigkarte eingebaut geforce 8400
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !de
[20:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:55] <lolololol> crap i now realized that vlc gives louder sound than kaffeine how can this be?
[20:56] <nosrednaekim> batis610: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide ... Use Method #2
[20:57] <francisco> good night
[20:58] <lolololol> gn
[20:58] <batis610> nosrednaekim: ok thks, i'll  try it
[20:58] <francisco> somebody can say to me the channel of ubuntu in spanish
[20:58] <batis610> hope it works
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> !es
[20:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:58] <francisco> thank you
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> batis610: I found it easier to install the driver straight from .rn rather than generating debs
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> * .run
[20:59] <rcg1984> nosrednaekim: From what I can tell, it does what quicken does but it's organized in a different matter.  It's pretty sweet from what I can tell. Thanks again
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> rcg1984: ok, great
[21:01] <amrush> hi all .. can anyone tell me how to reduce firefox's cpu memory usage ?
[21:04] <amrush> anyone ?
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> amrush: not really...
[21:04] <amrush> thanks nosrednaekim .. but is there a special channel for firefox or something ?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> probably
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> #mozilla
[21:05] <amrush> thanks
[21:06] <sub[t]rnl> you can have firefox load into the harddrive and out of your ram when you minimize it
[21:07] <sub[t]rnl> thats about it
[21:07] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[21:07] <pastry_> or
[21:07] <amrush> aha .. can u show me how ?
[21:07] <pastry_> browse less web pages at once works too
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> pastry_: yeah, or less plugins
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> amrush: type in about:config in the adress bar
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> right click, and select new -> boolean
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> or whatever
[21:09] <sub[t]rnl> then enter config.trim_on_minimize
[21:09] <sub[t]rnl> and then select true, and restart
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> or if you really want to have less of a memory footprint, start firefox like this --> "konqueror"
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> :D
[21:11]  * tijn is away: afk..
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> !away | tijn
[21:11] <ubotu> tijn: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[21:11] <amrush> lol .. nice one .. thanks anyway .. i'm addicted to firefox now .. i'll mingle with konqueror sometime later
[21:17] <batis610> nosrednaekim: please i don't understand this 'Now, make this run before gdm' in the tuto?
[21:18] <Ayabara> xit
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> gdm's equivalent is kdm in Kubuntu
[21:19] <qolo> chmod -x kdm
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> batis610: don't worry, that isnt neccesary
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> BBIAB
[21:24] <rocme_> hi
[21:25] <rocme_> i have a problem with knetworkmanager
[21:25] <rocme_> i want him to connect to an wlan
[21:25] <Ax-Ax> can I start the installation from the livecd via cli?
[21:26] <jpatrick> Ax-Ax: you have to get the alternate cd to do that I think
[21:26] <rocme_> but he always says that there is no "active device"
[21:27] <jussi01> rocme_: what chipset is your wireless?
[21:27] <rocme_> (I treid to translate from german, sorry if it's wrong)
[21:27] <Ax-Ax> jpatrick: Imean, from a konsole inside the gui?
[21:27] <jussi01> !de | rocme_
[21:27] <ubotu> rocme_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:27] <rocme_> thx :)
[21:27] <jussi01> :)
[21:27] <rocme_> is my english so bad? ;)
[21:28] <jussi01> rocme_: no, but we try to make things easier for you :)
[21:28] <Arilou> hi hi!
[21:28]  * jussi01 runs
[21:28] <Ax-Ax> i don't have any "install" button on the desktop :(
[21:28] <rocme_> :-)
[21:28] <Arilou> I'm following the guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161817&page=3 to make my soundblaster work properly but it asks me to disable default onboard card in BIOS, how do I do it?
[21:29] <Arilou> jussi01: hey there! ^_^
[21:29] <jussi01> Arilou: you know the setup when your pc first starts?
[21:29] <jussi01> Arilou: thats bios
[21:29] <Arilou> jussi01: oh oki oki, it's disabled on BIOS
[21:29] <jussi01> :)
[21:31] <Arilou> jussi01: now there's another thingie, everyone seems to use the digital out on the SB Live, but I don't I use the front stereo and back stereo jacks, is there anyway to change the line 'slave.pcm "surround51"' and 'slave.channels 6' to fit my needs?
[21:32] <jussi01> Arilou: no idea, sorry
[21:33] <Arilou> jussi01: no problem =)
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> Arilou: try #alsa
[21:35] <lolololol> i generally think most hardware manufactures are stupid cause they only officially support windows
[21:37] <taraksias> hello i have upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and when restarted i get on a blank screen. any suggestions?
[21:37] <bonaldo2000> Help! I somehow removed java support from my system! Now I cant figure out which packages to install to get it back!
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> !java
[21:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> taraksias: video driver problems.... go to ctrl+alt+f2, log in, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reboot
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> select vesa for the driver in that dialog
[21:38] <taraksias> norsednaekim: i have done this using fglrx settings but nothing
[21:38] <taraksias> only working with vesa
[21:39] <taraksias> there is no way to get it work with fglrx?
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> taraksias: yes, use the restricted-manager
[21:40] <taraksias> norsednaekim: how?
[21:41] <Arilou> #alsa
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> taraksias: "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"
[21:44] <taraksias> norsednaekim: i have try that...but i get blank screen again
[21:46] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[21:46] <alesan> !delpfin
[21:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delpfin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:46] <alesan> !delfin
[21:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delfin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:47] <tekstacy> When I try to copy a file from a windows box on my lan, it asks for username and password.
[21:47] <alesan> :( how do I uninstall the infamous delfin from my system
[21:47] <tekstacy> But I have no pwd set on the xp box. wtf?
[21:47] <alesan> I was konqueror so badly :(
[21:47] <alesan> s/was/want
[21:48] <jussi01> !dolphin
[21:48] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[21:49] <alesan> jussi01: well thanks, I wonder why they didn't make it even more complicated
[21:49] <jussi01> alesan: :)
[21:49] <alesan> :)
[21:50] <alesan> anyway
[21:50] <alesan> I just found out that simply removing the nasty dolphin from the system with adept, makes the default go back to konqueror
[21:53] <hj> if kde 4 comes out... will kubuntu add some High Quality fonts to make it look really sharp?
[21:53] <hj> they always say... if someone complain about fonts
[21:53] <hj> " well thats up to distrobutions"
[21:54] <Tm_T> sure
[21:54] <hj> so i ask it here , are there any plans to make it look modern sharp cool...whatever buzzoword to use
[21:54] <Tm_T> hj: find a good font?
[21:54] <hj> im not good in finding :(
[21:54] <Tm_T> I'm happy with my current fonts, never seen better ones
[21:54] <hj> can you show a screenshot for me?
[21:55] <hj> (you can upload to imageshack.com)
[21:55] <lolololol> when is kde4 is released again?
[21:55] <Tm_T> lolololol: next year
[21:55] <hj> somewhere january
[21:55] <Tm_T> or later ;)
[21:55] <Flare183> !kde4 | lolololol
[21:55] <ubotu> lolololol: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[21:55] <Tm_T> "when its ready"
[21:55] <hj> Tm_T can you show screenshot svp?
[21:56] <Tm_T> hj: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[21:56] <Tm_T> hj: patience, my young padawan
[21:56] <hj> whats a padaawan
[21:56] <Tm_T> student
[21:57] <hj> i think your sitre is broken
[21:57] <hj> connection times out
[21:57] <tijn> trappist, u there?
[21:57] <Tm_T> hj: hmm, interesting
[21:57] <hj> now it works
[21:57] <hj> yes your font look right.
[21:58] <hj> but thats not default installed i thikn
[21:58] <Tm_T> hj: actually default fonts
[21:58] <Tm_T> atleast should be
[21:58] <Tm_T> DejaVu <3
[21:58] <hj> looks different with e
[21:59] <hj> on laptop my fonts look.. well..  some say to me what you whine about.  but its lot less quality compared with windows/apple
[21:59] <hj> and fonts are the most important thing on a desktop
[21:59] <lolololol> love the wallpaper Tm_T
[22:00] <Tm_T> hj: so that means your font settings are the one troubling, if we are using the same fonts?
[22:00] <sandra_> test
[22:00] <hj> so are you trying to convince me here that you tweaked nothing
[22:01] <Tm_T> sandra_: untest
[22:01] <hj> maybe does it matter if i.. for example installed NVIDEA driver or not
[22:01] <Tm_T> hj: no, I said I have pretty much default fonts, but not default font _settings_ ;)
[22:01] <hj> does fonts change?
[22:01] <Tm_T> hj: nope
[22:02] <hj> Tm_T so how did you change settings,  in a .fonts.cong ?
[22:02] <hj> .conf
[22:02] <Tm_T> hj: use antialisation and hinting suitable to your eyes ;)
[22:02] <Tm_T> just kcontrol
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> hj: toy with your ...  what he said :)
[22:02] <hj> i ttried that.. just makes it uglier
[22:02] <Tm_T> interesting
[22:03] <hj> i dont think so
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> then you may not have the ideal resolution for your laptop's display...
[22:03] <hj> yes thats true
[22:03] <hj> i didnt installed drivers yet
[22:03] <Tm_T> .
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ...
[22:03] <hj> but will do it now... going offline to install now
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> so go do that
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[22:03] <Tm_T> heh
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> of course it's going to look terrible.
[22:12] <ne1> hello.  does the current image (  kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso )   come with KDE 4 RC 2  ?
[22:13] <Tm_T> ne1: no
[22:14] <ne1> so i have to put on kubuntu then remove the kdelibs, then put on the new?  thats the only way?
[22:14] <Tm_T> ne1: no, there's no KDE4 anything in there by default :)
[22:15] <Tm_T> ne1: so just install KDE4 and you're good to go
[22:15] <neul> wow... this is a big channel :)
[22:15] <Tm_T> neul: see #ubuntu
[22:16] <neul> it's np Tm_T
[22:16] <Tm_T> neul: well, if you're looking for a big channel...
[22:17] <neul> it's just that I like to watch videos, and they won't play
[22:18] <Tm_T> what videos?
[22:18] <Tm_T> !mp3 | neul
[22:18] <ubotu> neul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:18] <ne1> tm, thx
[22:18] <neul> rm videos, wmv videos
[22:19] <Tm_T> neul: look those urls ubotu gave
[22:19] <earl_> i have a quick question for anyone who knows the answer;
[22:19] <earl_> why does everyone go "omgomgomgomg konqueror is the best browser evarrr"
[22:19] <Tm_T> earl_: never seen that happening
[22:19] <earl_> 'cause... not only does it take forever to load pages... but it also doesn't even render the kubuntu.com page right...
[22:19] <Tm_T> there's no such thing "best" in browsers
[22:20] <Tm_T> earl_: works best in MY use, dunno yours ;)
[22:20] <earl_> perhaps not but a lot of people say konqueror is great and i just don't see what it is
[22:20] <Tm_T> it's matter of personal needs
[22:21] <Daisuke_Ido> if you don't do anything with dynamic pages or css or ajax/web 2.0/buzzword of the week, konqueror's awesome
[22:21] <earl_> in fact it doesnt even render kde.org right
[22:21] <earl_> which i kind of think is depressing
[22:21] <Tm_T> earl_: kde.org and kubuntu.org renders fine here :)
[22:21] <Tm_T> so dunno your case
[22:22] <earl_> i'll show you a screenshot
[22:22] <senorpedro> hi, i try to install the new 7.10 kubuntu on a computer with a 1650x1080 widescreen tft. the display is completely weird, it looks "over" the left margin. when i change to a smaller resolution (like e.g. 1280x1024) it works, but the non-native resolution looks bad on the tft. has anybody ever struggled with this issue and knows an answer?
[22:23] <Tm_T> earl_: anyway, in my use it's matter of functions and features, Konqi is only one having ~all I need in one package, I recommend you to use one you like :)
[22:23] <Tm_T> !fixres
[22:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:23] <Tm_T> senorpedro: ^^
[22:23] <lolololol> i love konqueror cause i can use sftp :)
[22:23] <earl_> Tm_T: normally first thing i do on an installation of kubuntu is apt-get install firefox. just curious if there was something i was missing
[22:24] <earl_> http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ts3.png
[22:24] <Tm_T> earl_: heh, dunno, Firefox doesn't "fit into my hand"
[22:24] <senorpedro> does the nvidia driver work on kubuntu?
[22:24] <Tm_T> senorpedro: does
[22:24] <Tm_T> !nvidia | senorpedro
[22:24] <ubotu> senorpedro: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:25] <Tm_T> earl_: that can't be Konquerors fault
[22:25] <earl_> it better be - this is a clean install as of 10 seconds ago
[22:25] <earl_> err
[22:25] <earl_> 10 minutes ago
[22:26] <earl_> as far as i know i did not type in apt-get install konqueror-snapshot-ruiner or anything like that
[22:26] <Tm_T> earl_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/konq-kde.jpg
[22:27] <earl_> right, that is what it should look like
[22:28] <earl_> i dunno, maybe i just need to konfigure it?
[22:28] <earl_> AHHH configure it
[22:28] <earl_> brb
[22:28] <Tm_T> erm
[22:28] <Tm_T> shouldn't need any
[22:29] <ardchoille> Kinda looks like it's using a special css
[22:29] <Tm_T> yup
[22:36] <knubbel_> hi, does anybody have a recommendation for a webcam that is relatively hassle-free to install? thanks
[22:37] <Tm_T> knubbel_: Logitech QuickCam Express
[22:37] <Tm_T> plugin, done
[22:37] <romunov> can someone help me get my server online?
[22:37] <Tm_T> cheap, not good quality, but, works
[22:37] <romunov> i've set up a page and i can't access the server through the internet
[22:37] <knubbel_> thanks Tm_T
[22:37] <peterpan_> how to mount a partition?
[22:37] <Tm_T> !mount | peterpan_
[22:37] <ubotu> peterpan_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:37] <Flare183> !mount peterpan_
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount peterpan_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <Flare183> !mount | peterpan_
[22:38] <Tm_T> Flare183: too late
[22:38] <Flare183> yep
[22:38] <lolololol> i have a logitech quickcam too didin't need any configuration too
[22:39] <peterpan_> well i see them but how to mount?
[22:40] <Tm_T> !fstab
[22:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[22:40] <Tm_T> mgh
[22:40] <Tm_T> peterpan_: media:/ ?
[22:42] <Flare183> !Partitions
[22:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:42] <Flare183> !DiskMounter
[22:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[22:42] <Flare183> ther
[22:42] <Flare183> e
[22:42] <Flare183> sorry for the enter
[22:42] <Tm_T> !botabuse | Flare183
[22:42] <ubotu> Flare183: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:42] <Tm_T> ;)
[22:43] <peterpan_> Tm_T got it.. but i want those to be only read only to ANY OTHER. and only writeable or deletable by ROOT only..
[22:43] <Flare183> Tm_T:> dude, i forgot sorry
[22:44] <peterpan_> Tm_T how to do it?
[22:45] <Tm_T> peterpan_: mounted on boot?
[22:45] <peterpan_> Tm_T what do you mean?
[22:45] <Tm_T> peterpan_: would you like them being mounted all the time or just when needed?
[22:48] <kay> hello, is someone in here who can trigger rebuild of adept?
[22:49] <Tm_T> kay: umm?
[22:50] <kay> on hardy alpha adept is somewhat broken, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/176286
[22:50] <kay> i think this should be adressed before alpha 2 goes out
[22:50] <Tm_T> kay: aah, hardy :p
[22:51] <Tm_T> kay: #kubuntu-devel perhaps
[22:51] <kay> oh, :-)
[22:51] <kay> most probably ;-))
[22:52] <peterpan_> Tm_T mounted at all times. readonly to me.. (iam the only user.. my login name is log1 . (am i root also?))       but i want it to be writeable or deletable by root only.
[22:52] <kay> thanks
[22:52] <Tm_T> peterpan_: then fstab is your friend
[22:52] <peterpan_> fstab?
[22:52] <jussi01> !fstab
[22:52] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[22:53] <peterpan_> how to do it by gui     disk and filesystem in sys settings?
[22:54] <sinthetek> is there a kubuntu netinst.iso somewhere? i only got a 650mb cdrw to work with
[22:55] <jussi01> !install | sinthetek
[22:55] <ubotu> sinthetek: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:55] <peterpan_> Tm_T how to do it by gui     disk and filesystem in sys settings?
[22:55] <Tm_T> yes I suppose
[22:55] <earl_> is there a kde4 channel of some sort?
[22:56] <Tm_T> earl_: related to what?
[22:56] <earl_> related to discussion of the current known issues with kde4 rc2
[22:56] <earl_> it's a little rough around the edges for a release candidate, i think
[22:57] <Tm_T> earl_: it is rough :)
[22:57] <peterpan_> what does this means nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[22:57] <earl_> for example, why doesn't kdesudo believe me when i put in my root password?
[22:57] <Tm_T> earl_: #kde and #kde4-devel perhaps
[22:57] <earl_> like it pretty much says "psch, nuh-uh"
[22:57] <earl_> thanks
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> probably because it's not asking for the root password...
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[22:58] <earl_> what other password is there..?
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> your password
[22:58] <earl_> one and the same in ubuntu, i thought
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> they are not the same, do not confuse that.
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> !root
[22:58] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:58] <earl_> well i've only told ubuntu one password
[22:59] <earl_> so if ther'es another password i'm gonna hav ea fun time figuring that one out
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i think there was just confusion there
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> what you were giving it was your password, not the root password, so yes, kde4 is screwing up (which doesn't surprise me much)
[23:01] <sinthetek> are daily snapshot images usually smaller than release images?
[23:01] <Jortmans> I seem to have a problem downloading  or installing stuff
[23:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Jortmans: what's the problem?
[23:02] <amundsen> hi
[23:03] <amundsen> i have installed kubuntu gutsy and tried to update the system, but it gives me some problems with ttf-opensymbol and some dependencies
[23:04] <jac0b> I am using tighvnc to connect to a machine. It shows I am connected but a window didn't popup showing the remote computer
[23:05] <jac0b> can anyone tell me how to show the remote computer window
[23:06] <Jortmans>  it sais there has been a problem making the changes and there might have been a porblem with downloading some packages
[23:06] <Jortmans> but it does so with every application I try to install
[23:08] <Jortmans> Daisuke-Ido:it sais there has been a problem making the changes and there might have been a porblem with downloading some packages
[23:08] <Daisuke_Ido> did you follow the instructions it gave?
[23:08] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get -f install
[23:09] <Jortmans> Daisuke_Ido: ?
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> use that command in a terminal.
[23:10] <memphis> m
[23:11] <Jortmans> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:12] <jussi01> Jortmans: have you got adept open?
[23:12] <Jortmans> no
[23:12] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[23:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:13] <Daisuke_Ido> did you have synaptic open?
[23:14] <Jortmans> not that I know
[23:14] <FSHero> Hello everyone... I'm in a Kubuntu amd64 Gutsy live-cd right now, and am about to install it over an installation of Kubuntu i386 Feisty. Do I just follow the installer?
[23:14] <miloud> hello
[23:15] <Jortmans> should I?
[23:15] <FSHero> Ok, I'm going ahead!
[23:16] <Jortmans> hey this is weird, it seems to be installed anyway
[23:18] <blizzzek> kde4-question: i somehow managed to remove all keyboard shortcut profiles. i don't really know what the trigger was... anyone an idea how to restore them? i got the ppa kubuntu-members-kde in my sources.list
[23:20] <Jortmans> never mind then, it seems to be working properly
[23:20] <Jortmans> thnx
[23:22] <Jortmans> I'm back...:S
[23:22] <Jerenmye> hi, does anyone knows how to configure kontact so that it doesn't start with is window opened?
[23:23] <Jerenmye> with _his_ window opened
[23:23] <Jerenmye> with _its_ window opened (lol)
[23:23] <Jortmans> trying to start adept installer it crashed
[23:25] <poison_> can i change my machine name
[23:25] <Kernel> !hostname | poison_
[23:25] <ubotu> poison_: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[23:26] <Jortmans> Adept crashed when I tried to run it
[23:29] <zorglu_> q. i got a box installed french, and i would like to switch it back to english, how can i do that ?\
[23:30] <carlos> buenas noches a todos
[23:30] <carlos> soy nuevecito
[23:30] <carlos> acabo de instalar el kubuntu
[23:30] <Tm_T> !es | carlos
[23:30] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:30] <Dragnslcr> zorglu- System Settings -> Regional and Language
[23:30] <zorglu_> LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 <- i found thaT :)
[23:30] <Tm_T> carlos: not the wole world can talk spanish, I remind you ;)
[23:30] <zorglu_> Dragnslcr: ok thanks
[23:30] <carlos> thanks :P
[23:30] <carlos> sorry
[23:31] <poison_> ty kernel
[23:31] <Kernel> np poison_ :-)
[23:33] <lonejack> does somebody of you is aware regarding adept manager crashes ?
[23:34] <Pollywog> Adept crashes on me sometimes
[23:34]  * Daisuke_Ido beats amarok senseless
[23:35] <lonejack> But it tell you pakage installed also it hasn't?
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> sansa e260, a perfectly normal mtp player, and amarok chokes on it
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> BAD.
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> to the point that amarok completely crashes when i plug it in :(
[23:35] <Pollywog> lonejack: I am not sure I understand the question.  My English is not so good
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  anyone here an expert on libmtp?
[23:36] <poison_> Kernel, i asked that because i access a win@^%#@^$ 2003 server with rdp
[23:37] <poison_> and now everytime i access it, it says my license is ending
[23:37] <Pollywog> Daisuke_Ido: have you tried compiling amarok yourself from deb-src?
[23:37] <poison_> and i read somewhere if i change the hostname i can contiune accessing
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Pollywog: i've discovered it's a libmtp problem rather than an amarok problem
[23:38] <Pollywog> oic
[23:38] <lonejack> I used adept manager to install dome packages, during those operations someone of the crashes (the system tell you, a message like "the packet is broken..." or similar). You close the dialog, retur to adept, and adept tell you, packages installed...
[23:39] <iceman> i think i have a some kind of video card issue
[23:39] <batis610> I try to install my video card (ati radeon x1650 pro) following this tutorial: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide .... when i comment this 'Driver      "fglrx"' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and i reboot... i cannot login anymore... and i have to uncomment it so i can do.... what's wrong?
[23:39] <Pollywog> lonejack: perhaps it crashes but still installs the packages that caused the crash.  Did you verify with apt-get that they installed?
[23:39] <iceman> every once in a while ill get like this blurry screen type thing with no picture at all and then the signal cuts completely
[23:40] <iceman> and i can't restore it
[23:40] <iceman> can someone help?
[23:40] <postg> hello, I try to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[23:41] <iceman> it forces me to shutdown and restart which would suck if i was in the middle of something important
[23:41] <postg> after upgrading, I get errors: http://paste.uni.cc/17831
[23:41] <postg> could someone help me ?
[23:41] <postg> take a look at it: http://paste.uni.cc/17831
[23:41] <postg> how can I fix that?
[23:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you can start by being patient.
[23:42] <postg> Firefox refused to upgrade too
[23:42] <lonejack> Pollywog, I checked, not installed. Somebody told me it's preferable to install ubuntu and then Kubuntu...
[23:43] <Pollywog> lonejack: yes that is true, it sometimes works better to install Ubuntu first
[23:43] <lonejack> Pollywog, ok. bye
[23:44] <Pollywog> try apt-get first
[23:44] <Pollywog> instead of adept
[23:44] <postg> in line 3: Setting up eieio (1:1.0pre4-2) .
[23:44] <Pollywog> before you try a reinstall
[23:44] <postg> it was eieio error
[23:45] <Pollywog> postg: before upgrading to Gutsy, did you update your Feisty system?
[23:45] <postg> Pollywog: Yes!
[23:45] <Pollywog> k
[23:46] <batis610> please help...
[23:46] <postg> I updated Feisty system to 7.04 latest, before moving ->710
[23:46] <postg> but now, as you see error occur: http://paste.uni.cc/17831
[23:47] <postg> I do follow advice on ubuntu official site on how to upgrade
[23:49] <Pollywog> postg: you might try asking in #ubuntu, maybe someone there knows
[23:49] <zorglu_> hmm i havent admin a unix for a long time :)
[23:49] <zorglu_> 'how to add a user into admin group' <- on a ubuntu  server
[23:50] <postg> ok
[23:50] <Pollywog> adduseradduser <user> <group>
[23:50] <Pollywog> adduser <user> <group>
[23:52] <zorglu_> Pollywog: ok thanks
[23:52] <Pollywog> for example: sudo adduser pollywog admin
[23:53] <zorglu_> ok i tried to modify /etc/groupsand failed :)
[23:53] <zorglu_> but your solution worked, thanks :)
[23:54] <zorglu_> i should likely upgrade this box with a desktop :)
[23:54] <zorglu_> just for the admin via ssh :)
[23:58] <yoyo> Hi
[23:59] <yoyo> How do I change the background in Konqueror