[00:08] Maybe I have to first create release series? === ember_ is now known as ember [00:14] I think I understand now why branch URL's include the branch author's name. Apparently anyone on Launchpad can register a branch. So if I have a patch for a project, I can register a branch and push my modified version to that branch. Correct? [00:15] yes [00:16] that's one of the defining features of launchpad, in fact :) [00:16] What do I do, though, for a project (like Lua) that doesn't provide public access to its VCS repository? [00:17] mwhudson: Yeah, I like it. Seems like a good way to submit patches. [00:17] well, to publish patches [00:18] there's not much you can do, i guess [00:19] you can import a tarball [00:20] by which i just mean tar xfz whatever.tgz; cd whatever; bzr init; bzr add; bzr ci; bzr push bzr+ssh://... [00:21] So what is the naming convention for a branch containing the contents of, say, the Lua 5.1.2 tarball? [00:22] MattCampbell: I'd register a project called "lua" and if 5.1.2 is the latest, have a branch called "trunk" or "main" [00:22] MattCampbell: or you could call it "lua-5.1.2" [00:22] mwhudson: getting late? [00:24] Perhaps the more important question is whether it's acceptable for me, since I'm not a Lua core developer, to import the contents of the tarball into a branch and publish that branch on Launchpad, then use that as the basis of a branch containing my modification. Should I instead ask the upstream developers (in this case the Lua team) to publish their VCS repository, and wait until they do before I continue? [00:24] I bring this up because my own project depends on a small modification that I made to Lua. [00:25] MattCampbell: as long as Lua is open source (and I'm sure it is), then they shouldn't have any problem with you providing an alternative way to access the source [00:25] It is. (www.lua.org) [00:26] MattCampbell: perhaps you just need to make sure that it is mentioned on the project page that the main repository is found elsewhere [00:26] MattCampbell: there is also no harm in asking them [00:26] I'm just not familiar with the proper etiquette here. [00:26] MattCampbell: personally, I'd ask first [00:26] MattCampbell: and if you get no answer, then do it yourself [00:27] MattCampbell: you might find that another lau core dev is already registered on launchpad and is able to do it on behalf of the core dev team [00:28] MattCampbell: you could word it like "In order to easily interoperate with my project XYZ I'd like to have the lua source registered in Launchpad and available as a bzr branch" [00:28] MattCampbell: when appropriately set up it can make the lua source available by "bzr branch lp:lua" [00:28] Lua is already registered on Launchpad (I don't know by whom), but with no branches. [00:29] MattCampbell: it was registered by Daniel Silverstone [00:29] thumper: yeah... [00:30] not a Lua core team member [00:30] MattCampbell: you might still want to mention on the lua dev mailing list (I'm assuming they have one) that you'd like the sourcecode available [00:30] (on launchpad) [00:34] It looks like the Lua core team is using CVS. [00:34] I see $Id$ tags at the top of source files. [00:43] thumper: I just posted such a message to the list. BTW, I think the modification I want to publish is useful outside my project; I hope it will eventually be merged by the upstream developers. [00:43] MattCampbell: right [01:19] So, I have my development code in a Bazaar branch. [01:20] If I tell Launchpad this is the branch for 0.1 will I get problems later when the branch becomes 0.2 [01:21] You should associate that branch with the "trunk" series, then create a separate branch for each release if you want. [01:21] To associate a branch with the "trunk" series, follow the "trunk" link on the main project page, then choose "edit details" [01:26] Hmm. I have a folder "trunk" inside my branch, but I guess I should remove that. [01:26] What is your branch called? [01:26] main [01:27] Yes, move the contents of the trunk folder to the top level and remove the trunk folder. [01:27] Do you think main is an ok name? [01:27] It seems to be the convention with Bazaar. [01:29] I'm very new to Launchpad, but I'm very impressed with what I've seen so far. My biggest concern, as with SourceForge in its early days, is whether Canonical will continue to be able to give away so much for free to all free-software projects that want it. [01:30] I'm generally wary of companies that provide free services, but I thought I'd try it out. [01:33] There is no "bzr rmdir" [01:33] :-/ [02:04] MattCampbell, They make money so I'm sure we're good. [02:59] Hello all, How do I upload files to be project files ? [06:16] New bug: #176845 in launchpad "Allow use of login.launchpad.net login/sign up forms without OpenID" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176845 [06:40] New bug: #176848 in launchpad "Support Verisign's OpenID Seatbelt extension" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176848 === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:06] jamesh: Feel free to do the libmms migration whenever you're ready. [08:09] soren: crap. I'd forgotten about doing the demo import :( [08:10] jamesh: No worries. [08:10] jamesh: There's no particular rush. [08:14] I'll look at doing a demo import quickly. If that looks good, I'll do a production import [08:14] jamesh: Cool. [08:19] soren: https://bugs.demo.launchpad.net/libmms/ <- does this look good? [08:22] jamesh: Not entirely sure.. My bug comments are listed as being from ~shawarma-users.. I registered my shawarma@users.sourceforge.net on launchpad last week, so shouldn't they appear as thought being from me? [08:25] jamesh: Ah, that change just hadn't been synced over to demo's db.. [08:26] soren: yep. They'll be attributed to your main account on production [08:26] jamesh: Ok, so if someone else had this problem on prodcution, because they failed to register their sf.net e-mail on launchpad, what would they have to do? [08:27] soren: use Launchpad's merge account form [08:27] I remember seeing a link on some users' launchpad page where you could say "Hi, I'm this user", and then have them merged. [08:27] yep [08:27] ...but I don't see that on the new ~shawarma-users page? [08:28] I think that is a bug in how the importer is creating new people in Launchpad [08:28] you can still request the merge though [08:28] Via answers or something? [08:29] at https://bugs.demo.launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge [08:29] and entering username@users.sourceforge.net [08:29] Ah, right. Ok. [08:29] Well, apart from that wart, it looks lovely. [08:29] it doesn't require administrator intervention [08:32] soren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libmms [08:32] Fantastic. Thanks very much! [08:35] soren: I've just fixed up the account statuses, so the "Hey, I'm XXXX" links appear for the created accounts [08:36] jamesh: Even better! Now I just need to work out how to disable all the stuff on sourceforge. Grr.. [08:36] soren: I'm told that there is a project admin option to hide the trackers [08:36] the Inkscape guys managed it [08:36] jamesh: There is. [08:39] soren: you can look up bugs by their old SF numbers with a URL like https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/sfNNNN [08:39] How do I upload our latest release to Launchpad? [08:39] Oh, I probably need to hijack the project, don't I? [08:40] I didn't register it on Launchpad, you see. [08:40] I can fix that for you [08:42] soren: okay. You are now the owner of the project [08:43] jamesh: Excellent. Thanks. [08:43] if you want more than one person to be owner, set up a team and transfer ownership to it. [08:43] Is the process of releasing files documented somewhere? [08:44] don't know [08:45] soren: if you click on the "trunk" link on the main page, you can register releases there [08:45] you can then attach files to releases [08:45] Oohh.. [08:45] Ok, thanks! [08:48] soren: https://help.launchpad.net/FileDownloadsOverview <- that appears to be the relevant documentation [08:53] Ah, cool. Thanks [09:21] Morning Launchpad :) === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === stu2 is now known as stub [11:09] g'morning [11:10] anyone could have a look at Bug #176897 [11:10] Launchpad bug 176897 in launchpad "different email from different teams" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176897 [11:17] I just filed a new bug: bug #sseaproval [11:17] bug sseaproval [11:17] come on ubotu [11:17] Bug #176901 [11:17] Launchpad bug 176901 in launchpad ""Subscribe someone else" should require user approval" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176901 [11:20] New bug: #176897 in launchpad "different email for different teams/projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176897 [11:25] New bug: #176901 in launchpad ""Subscribe someone else" should require user approval" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176901 === kiko is now known as kiko-phone === meduxa is now known as toscalix [11:51] New bug: #176906 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from Bugzilla" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176906 === kiko-phone is now known as kiko [11:55] New bug: #176912 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from RT" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176912 [11:55] New bug: #176913 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from SourceForge" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176913 [11:56] New bug: #176907 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from DebBugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176907 [11:56] New bug: #176908 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from Mantis" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176908 [11:56] New bug: #176909 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from Trac" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176909 [11:56] New bug: #176910 in malone "Launchpad should support importance imports from Roundup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176910 [12:57] hi all [12:57] maybe someone knows, why po export doesn't work in launchpad, at least for me :( [12:57] I choosed to download gnome-volume-manager and shared-mime-info po files from rosetta but didn't get an email for about 15 hours === cprov-away is now known as cprov-out [12:59] mantiena-baltix: Hi - let me see if there are any known delays. [13:00] mantiena-baltix: Have you had an email yet? Or are you still waiting? [13:00] mrevell: I still didn't get an email [13:00] there are problems with the export script [13:00] jtv knows [13:00] Thanks kiko [13:01] kiko, jtv: maybe you know when po export will work ? [13:02] mantiena-baltix: I'm working on finding and fixing the problem. Not sure how long it will take, but I expect hours at least. [13:04] jtv: ok, thanks for info, maybe it would be wise to write status of this problem in header this channel ? === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translations exports are delayed | https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 13 Dec 2007, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | List: launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Join the beta team: https://help.launchpad.net/JoiningLaunchpadBetaTesters [13:06] mantiena-baltix: good idea, thanks. done === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translation exports are temporarily delayed | https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 13 Dec 2007, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | List: launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Join the beta team: https://help.launchpad.net/JoiningLaunchpadBetaTesters === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara [13:51] hi there [13:51] anyone else having trouble editing emails address on team? [13:51] the link is broken for me with a "Page not found" === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [14:29] is any dev here?? [14:29] yes, likely [14:29] seems that no one anwsered my question [14:30] I would like for any other team leader to confirm on their project [14:30] * BUGabundo I should have said any LP dev, and no just dev !! [14:31] sounds like a bug to me [14:31] (not my area of the code though) [14:32] https://edge.launchpad.net/~i5corp/+editemail [14:32] see for yourself [14:37] well, that's certainly a 404 [14:39] BUGabundo: what does https://edge.launchpad.net/~i5corp/+contactaddress have on it? [14:40] i don't administer any teams on launchpad so i don't know how this is supposed to work [14:42] BUGabundo, I have no idea what you are asking! [14:44] kiko: He said that he gets a 404 trying to edit team email addresses. [14:45] brb [14:45] sorry [14:45] I just emailed the LP ML [14:46] check it out for more details, if you please [14:47] kiko on my team page https://edge.launchpad.net/~i5corp/ there's a link to manage emails address [14:47] if I click on it, I was a few minutes ago redirect to a broken link [14:47] due to bad escape chars with the '~' sign [14:47] it seems that now its fixed [14:48] but still I get a 404 on https://edge.launchpad.net/~i5corp/+contactaddress [14:48] hope that explains it a little better, kiko [14:50] Peng, BUGabundo: the +editemails broken link is a known problem [14:50] ah ok [14:50] BUGabundo, just use https://edge.launchpad.net/~i5corp/+contactaddress [14:50] do you have a link for the bug, so I can subscrive? [14:51] kiko can you also read bug #176897 and #176901 ? [14:51] Launchpad bug 176897 in launchpad "different email for different teams/projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176897 [14:51] Launchpad bug 176901 in launchpad ""Subscribe someone else" should require user approval" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176901 [14:53] BUGabundo, the second one is a dupe. the first one I'm not sure what it means. [14:53] well, I have an email that I use on LP for Ubuntu and LP [14:53] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/174453 [14:53] Launchpad bug 174453 in launchpad "Manage Addresses on a team page is a 404" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) [14:54] but now that I have created a new project and a new team, I want to use another email to receive emails for that team and project [14:54] BUGabundo, that's a dupe too, but I'm not sure what the dupe bug is [14:54] that should be different from the one I have for all the other LP stuff [14:54] but still be the sam user (me) [14:54] I haven't found anything like that [14:55] I did see one similar to 176901 [14:55] that's not really very easy to do, though [14:56] LP already allows several emails address [14:56] it should be a question of having a default one [14:56] and having a way to choose what email to use for a team/project [14:56] is it that hard? [14:57] OT: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/176402 [14:57] Launchpad bug 176402 in launchpad "bugs for teams" [Undecided,New] [14:57] as I said there, should I just create a project to manage the team bugs?? [15:03] jtv: maybe you already know when translation export will work ? [15:05] How do I cancel a voting?!?!? [15:05] I set the start date today, and now I can't add options [15:06] mantiena-baltix: No, I'm trying to figure out what's going wrong. This stuff is complicated. I'll get some data to look at later today. [15:06] are you talking to me, mantiena-baltix? [15:15] New bug: #176943 in launchpad "polls dont have an example for date format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176943 [15:16] BUGabundo: it seems no, why you think so ? [15:17] there was no message from you before, so I didn't know to who were you talking to [15:34] kiko: was https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/159859 a dup for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/176901 [15:34] Launchpad bug 176901 in launchpad ""Subscribe someone else" should require user approval" [Undecided,New] [15:35] Is edge or staging updating those days? [15:36] ddaa, staging yes, edge no of course. [15:36] the staging database doesn't seem to have been restored in ages [15:36] is that normal for this point in the cycle? [15:36] (the code is new though) [15:37] mwhudson, yeah, it's normal after friday [15:37] k [15:37] mwhudson, it should have refreshed friday though, will bother tom [15:37] oh rats [15:37] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/13056 [15:38] i have my own reasons for waiting for tom === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [15:38] (to do with staging codehosting) [15:38] this specific issue cannot be fixed with the new Packaging deletion UI... === Kmos_ is now known as Kmos [15:38] ddaa, how come? [15:39] it's actually violating a (unimplemented) constraint [15:39] that it should not be possible to have multiple primary links for a source package [15:39] that, or the bogus link is a secondary link [15:40] probably bogus don't you think? [15:40] just ask the user to clarify. [15:40] clearly bogus [15:40] https://staging.launchpad.net/brasero/+packages [15:40] there's a gqview there, there should not be one [15:40] but the link does not appear there https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gqview [15:41] I have a list of db constraints that should be added down the road to sanitize the db [15:41] we can get tom to drop those for now [15:44] * ddaa can't find any bogus packaging link to remove to test his stuff [15:45] I saw one today, ddaa [15:45] https://edge.launchpad.net/blankon/ [15:46] nice [15:46] gdm, firefox, gaim, openoffice.org :) [15:46] :) [15:46] that's one ambitious fellow [15:46] confused, too [15:47] unfortunately, the staging db is not fresh enough [15:54] btw, my css fixes are on staging [15:54] and how do they look? [15:54] they look great [15:54] I've been running them for weeks locally using my greasemonkey stuff [15:55] so i'm fairly confident about them, also matsubara tested them for compatibility, and they do not cause IE to break more than usual. [15:56] great! [15:57] I'm unsure as to whether I should mark those as OK in the QA report... [15:57] https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm [15:57] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm [15:57] In a narrow window, that exhibit most of the changes. [16:00] https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/138006 [16:00] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/138006 [16:00] That shows a corner case of the structuralobject heading, when the image is missing. Look good to me. [16:00] Launchpad bug 138006 in gnome-panel "Memory leak in "Run Application" dialog" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [16:34] Got a weird bzr error when trying to commit to my bzr branch on LP: bzr: ERROR: Could not understand response from smart server: ('error', "") [16:34] using a bound branch [16:37] MattCampbell: that's a new one on me [16:37] MattCampbell: what client version? [16:37] 1.0rc3 [16:37] installed it just before 1.0 came out [16:37] and was told that the two are the same [16:37] hmm [16:38] Want me to try to commit again? I figured I should report it here before I do anything else. [16:38] i guess try again and if it fails file a bug [16:38] (on launchpad-bazaar) [16:43] OK, I'm trying my commit again, and I'm still waiting for a response. This is a small commit; the diff is probably less than 3K. [16:44] bzr: ERROR: Could not acquire lock "(remote lock)" [16:45] sounds like a stale lock [16:46] Probably a consequence of the previous error. [16:46] probably [16:46] So I guess the central branch is unusable until an LP admin fixes it. [16:47] MattCampbell, bzr break-lock? [16:48] Thanks. I did that, and got the first error again. [16:50] Should I switch from the smart server to SFTP? [16:50] that usually helps with this kind of error [16:51] that's still a bug though [16:52] kiko: would it be possible to make the hardware-certification-manual project private, for bugs and code [16:52] cr3, I can do it for bugs, I'm not sure how to do so for code but I could try. [16:53] kiko: thanks man [17:00] What version of bzr is Launchpad running now? [17:00] cr3, ... === Theuni_ is now known as Theuni [17:11] Someone told me to report the bzr error I mentioned earlier "on launchpad-bazaar". What does that mean? [17:12] kiko: sorry, on the phone [17:13] MattCampbell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+filebug [17:14] I'm not using edge.launchpad.net, whatever that is. Should I still report the bug there? [17:14] oh, that makes no difference [17:14] either with or without edge is fine [17:14] MattCampbell: edge just runs the latest version of the Launchpad code. [17:15] OK, thanks. I thought maybe launchpad-bazaar was a mailing list. [17:20] Hi all, I am try two times to upload a source package to a project, but I keep receiving: "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server" [17:20] What can I do? keep trying? [17:20] mariocesar_bo, what server are you uploading to? [17:22] to launchpad [17:22] what server, specifically. [17:26] kiko: I don't understand, I am using the form of the "Add download file" action [17:26] mariocesar_bo, uhm, you said you were uploading a source package. do you mean a source .tar.gz or similar? [17:26] mariocesar_bo, what project? [17:28] this [17:28] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-keynotes/trunk/1.0/+adddownloadfile [17:28] I am the owner [17:35] New bug: #176978 in launchpad-bazaar "Error when trying to commit to a central branch via smart server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176978 [17:50] has anyone else had problems with downloading .po files lately from launchpad? [17:51] I've tried for 3 days. I get the message that an email will be sent shortly, but none ever comes. Tried it with 2 different emails. [17:52] daou: We're experiencing a delay at the moment. Let me check to see if I can get an update. === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [17:53] mrevell: ok, thanks === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [18:05] could i request a bzr upgrade at bazaar.launchpad.net/~bauble/bauble/trunk/ [18:05] this takes hours on my slow connection [18:07] daou: Sorry, I lost my connection. One of our developers is looking at the problem at the moment but I don't have an estimated fix-time yet. Keep an eye on the launchpad-users list for an update. [18:07] mrevell_: alright, thanks for your help [18:08] can a team have multiple owners? [18:12] SWAT: Yes. A team can own another team. So, team A can own team B === \sh_away is now known as \sh [18:13] mwhudson: Are we able to help batoms with the request above? [18:14] mrevell_: not right now === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [18:15] batoms: ask a question at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+addquestion and i'll see what we can do [18:15] thanks mwhudson [18:34] mrevell, thanks for the info. [18:34] SWAT: no problem! [18:40] New bug: #176989 in malone "BugWatchSet.parseMantisURL mistakenly matches non-Mantis URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176989 [18:43] allenap, that's because it's hard not to match them, btw === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === flukierdonut is now known as profanephobia [19:46] Is there a good reason for the projects' files download urls to be as 'complicated' as they are? [19:47] This is how a watch file needs to be to be able to download files from launchpad :) [19:47] https://launchpad.net/andvare/+download https://launchpad.net/andvare/(.*)/(?:.*)/\+download/andvare-(.*)\.tar\.gz [19:47] I'm wondering whether it's intended to have the series and the release number in the url === \sh is now known as \sh_away [20:34] spam in https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/211 [20:34] Launchpad bug 211 in rosetta "Add comments to POFile for communication between translators" [Medium,Confirmed] === bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === \sh_away is now known as \sh === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === \sh is now known as \sh_away [21:12] hi, [21:13] seeking assistance about launchpad on the web [21:13] I experience difficulties trying to report mis-translations [21:14] say i want to report misbehave has been written mizbishave .. [21:14] how should i process [21:40] New bug: #177021 in launchpad "I have to search twice before i can create a new project that's "also affected" by a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177021