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h3sp4wnmaybe it breaks bash - it definately doesn't break zsh00:04
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cafuegoDanaG: They just get escaped.00:14
askand!ati00:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:35
askand!info ati00:35
ubotuPackage ati does not exist in hardy00:35
askand!info fglrx00:35
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in hardy00:35
askand!info fglrx-driver00:36
ubotuPackage fglrx-driver does not exist in hardy00:36
askand-_-00:36
mrsno!info xorg-driver-fglrx00:37
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.42.3+2.6.22.5-14.1 (hardy), package size 12154 kB, installed size 31348 kB00:37
mrsnoaskand you can also browse packages.ubuntu.com00:37
DanaGpm the bot instead, if not sure of what command you want.00:37
askandDanaG: mrsno: thanks!00:38
mrsnono problem00:38
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WorkingOnWiseIs Koffice 1.9.95 Koffice 2.0 prerelease, or the last of Koffice 1.x?01:55
WorkingOnWisein the repos01:55
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WorkingOnWisenm. Google is awesome! KOffice 1.9.95 is KOffice 2.0 Alpha501:58
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hwildeever seen the loopback address just disappear?03:38
hwildeever seen the loopback address just disappear?03:41
hwildeever seen the loopback address just disappear?03:41
hwildeafter a reboot the local loopback address is missing.  I have to run ifconfig lo up.  It is specified in /etc/network/interfaces.  why would his happen?03:43
Hobbsee!patrience03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patrience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:46
Hobbsee!patience03:46
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:46
bazhangalready impatient? nearly four more months til release :}03:51
hwildemy interfaces file is correct so how could this happen03:55
hwildeit is very bad all networking dies because it cannot find localhost 127.0.0.103:55
crimsunsanity-check whether it appears in /etc/hosts03:56
crimsunnext ensure that loopback is up with `ip a`03:56
hwildeafter reboot loopback is down and must be brought up with ifconfig lo up03:56
hwilde/etc/hosts has first line=  127.0.0.1 localhost03:57
crimsunpastebin your /e/n/i03:57
hwildeI cannot show you the wireless card settings but it starts with   auto lo;  iface lo inet loopback03:58
crimsunand you're current w/ today's updates?03:58
hwildeI don't think it is related to the new version;  it was working before03:59
hwildethen randomly it drops03:59
crimsunwell, it's not going to randomly drop03:59
hwildeyes that is why I am so shocked and apalled03:59
crimsunsomething with privileged access is either downing it, or there's a serious networking bug.03:59
hwildethis is correct syntax right?04:00
hwildeauto lo04:00
hwildeiface lo inet loopback04:00
crimsunyes, that matches mine.04:00
hwilde~$ cat /etc/hosts04:00
hwilde127.0.0.1 localhost04:00
hwildeoh well I am going to hack rc.local to run ifconfig lo up and get on with it04:01
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DanaGwtf? ctrl-tab changes by TWO tabs in firefox-3.0.\06:53
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khermanslibfaad2-dev depends on specific version of libfaad2-007:50
khermans libfaad2-dev: Depends: libfaad2-0 (= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed07:50
khermanswhy is in not >= rather than just =???07:50
khermanshow to get this fixed?  file bug?  report to someone else?07:51
bazhanglatest update?07:52
khermansbazhang, yes07:52
khermansis there a process for resolving issues of the class?07:53
bazhangkhermans: perhaps wait until one of the devs/packagers stops in to comment, or file a bug on launchpad--you can search launchpad from within firefox you know? there is a plugin in the repos for it07:53
khermansbazhang, yeah i dont see a bug on it07:55
khermansill file one07:55
bazhanggood to know; thanks for that khermans07:56
khermansbazhang, np07:59
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RAOFkhermans: Devel libraries *always* depend on the exact version.08:22
khermansRAOF, hrm, in case type changes?08:22
khermansRAOF, well it is still not installable08:22
khermansthe package is not included08:23
RAOF*That* is a bug.08:23
RAOFOn the other hand, I thought we had faad 2.5 now :)08:23
khermansRAOF, apparently not yet :-)08:23
khermansRAOF, changed bug to "libfaad2-dev depends on uninstallable version of libfaad2-0 in hardy"08:25
khermanshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/faad2/+bug/17685908:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 176859 in faad2 "libfaad2-dev depends on uninstallable version of libfaad2-0 in hardy" [Undecided,New]08:25
RAOFkhermans: Of course, the package that you're *after* is libfaad-dev08:25
RAOFkhermans: *That* works.08:25
khermansRAOF, not really if I want version 2!08:25
khermanslibfaad2-dev has been around since at least feisty08:26
khermansRAOF, am i missing something here?08:26
Le-Chuck_ITAhi all, is there an easy way to install hardy on a spare partition without rebooting gutsy?10:50
Le-Chuck_ITAe.g. running ubiquity from the hardy iso mounted in loopback?10:50
BUGabundog'morning11:09
tarzeauwhat's after hardy?12:16
Picitarzeau: Usually isnt announced until hardy is released or very close to release.12:17
tarzeaucan someone think of interesting information to be extracted from http://krum.ethz.ch/udc/ ?12:18
tarzeauPici: ok thanks, probably something starting with i ?12:18
Picipresumably.12:18
PiciYikes, thats some color shceme.12:18
mrtimdogHas the 'No Wallpaper' wallpaper disappeared from the Appearance Prefs, Background options (in gnome)?12:37
tarzeauPici: if you use a browser without css, it looks all classic12:52
Picitarzeau: but then12:52
tarzeauPici: or if you have a browser that can use different CSS files...12:52
Picier, but then I'd be using a browser without css ;)12:52
tarzeauno opera can do CSS but you can replace any css with your own12:53
tarzeauand i believe a good browser would allow that and also allow to put the data it shows through a pipe and some command and then render it12:53
tarzeau(i'm still waiting for that graphical interactive browser)12:53
tarzeauactually, that browser existed... the NeXT systems had a WWW browser with a built-in editor and the Services menu12:54
tarzeauanyways12:54
tarzeauPici: if you can give me a different css, here you can try: http://asdfasdf.ethz.ch/~tar/bts/?www.icebrrg.com/Styles/Master/c/style.css12:55
tarzeauPici: and if i like it, i might install it (or can i use the ubuntu css?)12:55
Picitarzeau: I'm just fooling around, I like it :)12:55
tarzeauoh looks much better http://asdfasdf.ethz.ch/~tar/bts/?www.ubuntu.com/themes/ubuntu07/style.css12:56
tarzeaui guess i'll put that for the ubuntu devel changes pages...12:56
tarzeauPici: does ubuntu also have a mascot? like debian? http://asdfasdf.ethz.ch/~tar/www.debian.org/12:58
tarzeaui mean debian is moo and milk and a supercow12:58
arbushi, got dependency errors with "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on alpha 1 standard install (over the net). kde-core install goes thru fine. Anyone else with this problem?13:59
eshathi all ,.. which sources do i need to change to ubuntu testing ????15:43
eshathow do switch to hardy from gutsy ???15:45
compwiz18gutsy to hardy, or hardy to gutsy?15:45
eshatcompwiz18: gutsy to hardy15:49
pvandewyngaerdeeshat:   in /etc/apt/sources.list   change gutsy to hardy15:56
PJCah, the info I wanted but was afraid to ask15:57
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tumbleweed__hmmm20:33
tumbleweed__Hardy is pretty damn stable for an alpha20:33
tumbleweed__I'm impressed.20:33
tumbleweed__tumbleweed@tumbleweed:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin20:42
tumbleweed__Reading package lists... Done20:42
tumbleweed__Building dependency tree20:42
tumbleweed__Reading state information... Done20:42
tumbleweed__Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.20:42
tumbleweed__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or20:42
tumbleweed__is only available from another source20:42
tumbleweed__E: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate20:42
tumbleweed__:/20:43
void^pastebin, and 64bit?20:45
tumbleweed__yeah, I'm on 64-bit20:47
tumbleweed__why?20:47
void^there's no sun-java6 plugin on 64bit20:47
tumbleweed__ah20:48
tumbleweed__any way to pull in the 32bit package?20:48
void^sure, with nspluginwrapper. better try icedtea.20:49
tumbleweed__aright20:49
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tumbleweed__xfce is yummy23:10
nomasteryodaand fluxbox is the cats meow23:12
tumbleweed__yus23:15
tumbleweed__I like both23:15
tumbleweed__i generally only use fluxbox when I want an ultra-light os, though23:16

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