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naliothwell, that lasted all of 20 blissful minutes00:57
naliothpieman caught the k-train, btw00:58
ikoniacan pieman not be excused for havng an amusing nick ?00:58
elkbuntuikonia, lets not go setting a precedence we dont want00:58
LjLikonia: only one time in 3.1415900:59
ikoniaok00:59
ikoniaI was of course teasing00:59
ikoniapieman is an ammusing name in the uk00:59
elkbuntudo enlighten us then, because nalioth, LjL and myself are not pommies01:00
ikoniaahhh01:00
ikoniapieman is an ammusing name for some one a little more round and jolly than the average person01:00
elkbuntuyou guys are easily amused then01:01
ikoniayes, but it's a big of a silly name, hence he ammusment01:01
LjLelkbuntu: duh. they're british.01:01
ikoniait's not an insult01:01
ikoniajust a bit of fun01:01
LjLtehm0nk-otherpc: need a test?01:11
tehm0nk-otherpcyeah i guess01:11
* nalioth is not impressed with gutsy on ppc01:13
LjLoh, we still have ubuntu for ppc? how retro :>01:14
naliothLjL: not only powerpc, but PlayStation3, also01:14
LjLwell that's not retro01:14
ikoniaughh the ps3 is going nowhere01:14
naliothit's got lesser users than the powerpc platform01:15
ikoniathe hardware interaction will not allow it to do anything01:15
Jack_Sparrowerealz is a troll01:15
ikoniano, I think he's just a child01:15
naliothdo the new PPAs offer source packages?01:15
PriceChildyes01:16
PriceChildsame as any other ubuntu repo01:16
PriceChildjust use deb-src01:16
naliothexcellent01:16
ikonianalioth: what do you plan to use ubuntu on your ps3 ?01:16
naliothikonia: i don't have a PS3.  i have a G5 powermac01:17
ikoniaooh, sorry, I miss-read. I thought you where using it on a ps301:17
naliothnot yet01:18
ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu (Emmy)01:33
ikoniacan someone please kick emmy - troll "are you all humans or robots" constant01:33
ikoniajust timewaster/troll01:33
ikoniaok - now getting a/s/l type comments from him01:33
ikoniatonyyarusso: thank you01:34
tonyyarussonp01:34
ubotuIn #kubuntu, NoiseBOX said: ubotu: my problem is the blacklist file ISN'T preventing them from loading. I'll have to check the init.rd04:20
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ikoniaheads up on yusuo trying to get people to tell him how to do DOS attacks12:05
ikoniawhen I've told him not to ask, he's trying in a more indirect approach "how do I get commands to repeat over and over"12:05
ardchoilleikonia: Thanks for the tip12:08
ikoniaI've got my eye on his questions, just be ware12:08
Piciikonia: thanks as always :)12:09
ikoniano problem12:09
ikoniaagain, head up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48533/ yusuo is trying to write a script to get his mate to execute an infinate loop to take down his machine12:33
ikoniauser exited and re-entered using nick  hiddenpimpdaddy12:36
ikoniacan anyone put an eye or note on yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com12:36
PiciAre you sure? It looks like hes trying to get some free mp3s to me.12:36
* jussi01 sighs... hiddenpimpdaddy...12:36
ikoniaPici: %15012:36
ikoniaPici: look at his loop - its one file12:37
ikoniahe is trying to get it to execute in a loop so it keeps launching downloads12:37
ikoniabefore the others finish12:37
ikoniaPici: plus he was telling the channel earlier he wants to do DOS attacks12:37
PiciI missed that part.12:37
ikoniayup12:37
ikoniaI've been monitoring his questions and he's been subtly trying to find out how to take people's machines off the net12:37
ikoniathis was his best attempt12:38
ikoniaok he's back in #ubuntu under the name yusuo12:40
jussi01ok, he has joined #ubuntforums12:47
ikoniaPici: heads up in #ubuntu-au hiddenpimpdaddy is looking for help with the DOS script12:50
ikoniajussi01: yup and ubuntu-au12:50
jussi01has someone !o4o him yet?12:50
ikoniain #ubuntu yes12:50
jussi01sigh...12:51
jussi01go ikonia!!12:53
ikoniawell thats done12:57
ikoniaany way a track on his ip can be put on12:58
jussi01ikonia: well done!12:58
ikoniaor a note about his prebious attempts12:58
ikoniajust for future reference12:58
ikoniajussi01: thank you13:01
jussi01ikonia: I detest people who want to do that kind of stuff.13:02
ardchoilleMe too13:02
ikoniaagreed13:03
ikoniaelkbuntu: cake is on me13:03
jussi01oh, strike... he is in #ubuntustudio13:03
elkbuntuikonia, chased him anywhere else i might have powers?13:04
ikonia#ubuntuforums #ubuntu-au now ubuntu studio13:04
elkbuntuiirc jdong can help for the forums, not sure who can help with studio13:05
ikoniajussi01: what nick now ?13:05
ardchoilleI'm watching in #kubuntu, just in case.13:05
elkbuntui'll hit up +1 now before he gets to it13:05
jussi01ikonia: itsonlyeducation13:05
elkbuntuardchoille, just lock him out now. he's one that's earned it13:05
elkbuntuonce they start prowling this widely, preemptive bans are useful to kill the fun13:06
ikoniastrange that he wants ubuntu to do it13:06
ardchoilleI won't get yelled at for a preemptive ban?13:06
elkbuntuardchoille, you've been told to do it by one of the IRC council :)13:06
jussi01banned from #ubuntustudio13:07
ardchoilleThat'll work :)13:07
ardchoilleSo it's: /mode +b #kubuntu *!*@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com13:07
ardchoille?13:07
ardchoilleI usually let auto_bleh.pl do this stuff13:08
elkbuntuyep13:08
elkbuntuactually, you probably dont need the channel even, but it'll let you know soon enough13:08
jussi01dont you need the +b after #kubuntu ?13:08
ikoniaI'll stick a note to some staffers to see if they can put an eye on his network13:08
elkbuntuikonia, considering he's aol, he just needs to reset the connection to get a completely different mask13:09
elkbuntubut i get the feeling this joker isnt that smart13:09
ikoniaagreed13:09
ikoniaplus I've already mailed aol13:09
ikoniawith his username13:09
ikoniabreaching TOC13:09
Tm_Tardchoille: what you're doing? :p13:10
elkbuntuheh13:10
elkbuntuTm_T, as per my orders13:10
ardchoilleTrying to set a ban13:10
elkbuntuTm_T, little loser trying to learn how to dos people13:10
ardchoilleBut the command elkbuntu told me didn't work13:10
Tm_Telkbuntu: aaah :)13:11
elkbuntuardchoille, try /mode +b *!*@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com in the channel13:11
ardchoilleelkbuntu: Thank you. I thought that was what I did13:11
elkbuntuirc commands suck13:12
Tm_Tnaah13:12
elkbuntuaaaanyway, bedtime. have fun with the anklebiter13:12
jussi01nite nite elkbuntu13:12
Tm_Telkbuntu: sleep well :)13:12
ikonianight, thank you13:12
ardchoilleGood night, and thanks elkbuntu13:12
jussi01ardchoille: is that your first action ?13:13
ardchoillejussi01: It's my first without using auto_bleh.pl13:14
jussi01:D13:14
ardchoilleThanks to the good folks here, I'm learning13:15
ikoniaguys, your action was appriciated13:15
ikoniathank you all13:15
jussi01ikonia: yours also!13:16
ikoniagreat to see prompt action against something that could have been an issue13:17
jussi01maybe PriceChild could sort #ubuntuforums?13:17
PriceChildgrrrr what's gonig on?13:17
Picigrrr13:17
jussi01PriceChild: [15:11] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, little loser trying to learn how to dos people13:18
PriceChildWhich one?13:19
PriceChildPici, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr13:19
jussi01PriceChild: mailto:yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com13:19
jussi01stupid copy function...13:19
PriceChild...13:20
PriceChildjussi01, who then?13:23
jussi01PriceChild: I gave it to you! yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com13:24
PriceChilddid he hit multiple channels?13:24
jussi01yes13:24
PriceChild(sorry by your "stupid copy function" thought you had mispasted what ardchoille was dealing with above)13:24
jussi01#ubuntu, #ubuntuforums, #ubuntu-au, #ubuntustudio afaik13:24
jussi01PriceChild: all good.13:25
PriceChild#kubuntu as wel right?13:25
jussi01PriceChild: no, but we premptively did that13:25
PriceChildok13:25
jussi01there may have been more channels we missed.13:26
nixternalhahahahahaha, you guys are talking about hiddenpimp or something aren't you?13:33
nixternalhe was in ubuntu-chicago and I made fun of his AOL account13:33
nixternalhe left promptly13:33
ardchoillehehe13:34
Garywell done nixternal13:40
jussi01nixternal: hehe... nice13:47
LjLwols_: beware troll13:47
wols_LjL: does flash still use /dev/dsp?13:52
LjLwols_, i don't really know to be honest, i suppose i can do an lsof right now though13:53
LjLwols_: or, perhaps not, since even amarok makes /dev/dsp show up as open in lsof13:54
ubotuIn #xubuntu, thegeeker said: ubotu, what is your dilemma?14:33
Pici!bot > thegeeker14:34
Garythat damn ubotu, always chatting to me, but never replying to my questions :p14:52
PiciHow does this sound:14:58
Pici!variant14:58
ubotuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distrubtions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, Freespire, Ubuntu Ultimate.14:58
ikoniawell worded14:59
stdinhow about adding LinuxMCE, that's apparently ubuntu based15:01
ikonialeave it at a few example15:01
ikoniapeople get the idea15:01
ikoniaif it becomes a list you'll be held to randoms15:02
ikonia"you didn't say that in the list"15:02
PiciI switch out Freespire for MCE. But I dont want to add too many.15:02
Pici!variant =~ s/Freespire/LinuxMCE/15:05
ubotuI'll remember that Pici15:05
ikoniathats good, it can take sed input15:06
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)16:56
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)16:56
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)16:56
ubotuIn #ubuntu, PJC said: !patience is a virtue16:58
PriceChildapokryphos stepped down then?18:31
Picihm?18:32
ikoniawhen/why ?18:32
Garyyeah, when? :'(18:42
Garymind you, 27 weeks since he was last in -uk18:42
kahrytanIs there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?18:45
ikonia?18:46
Picikahrytan: What do you mean?18:46
kahrytanask nalioth, vorian, and pricechild.18:46
ikoniawhy make such a comment then18:47
PiciI mean I dont understand what you mean by 'snooping' you?18:47
ikoniatake it up with them18:47
kahrytanNot that it bothers me.18:48
ikoniathe don't moan about it18:48
kahrytanHanging out in hawaii loco channel doesnt bother me. Just annoying me18:48
ikoniakahrytan: if it doesn't bother you - be quiet about it18:48
stdinwhy? it's an open channel isn't it?18:48
* Pici thinks we shouldnt be starting another argument over this.18:49
ubot3If nalioth wanted to snoop, he would. He is just being responsible to his duties.18:49
kahrytanwhich is to follow me?18:49
ikoniastdin: I'll cut to the chase  - kahrytan is a trouble maker and has been caught many times. He's not happy now that everyone is aware of it and won't tollerate it18:49
ikonia</chase>18:49
Garyslander, lets sue18:49
kahrytanlol18:50
Picior is that libel?18:50
ikoniayou can't sue for fact18:50
stdinikonia: yeah, I haven't kept a close eye on the whole issue with him, but I've seen enough idling in here to have a grasp of it18:50
GaryPici, no idea18:50
ikoniastdin: this is another tedious trouble making exercise18:50
kahrytan Actually, the only trouble I cause is with -ops.18:51
ikoniakahrytan: if you have a problem, take it up with the people you have a problem with18:51
ikoniadon't mouth of in here "again" while they are not around18:51
Garyhave a nice christmas too18:51
Piciikonia: he is, thats what this channel is for.18:51
ikoniaI think we know he's not taking up any issue, just randomly spounting off18:52
kahrytanMahalo Pici.18:52
stdinconsidering the 1st thing you say when you join is "Is there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?" you don't present yourself in the best light18:52
kahrytanOr I dont beat around the bush and get straight to the point.18:52
ikoniathen get to the point18:53
kahrytanikonia, I did that18:53
kahrytanikonia➲  did you miss the point?18:53
ikoniayes18:53
ikoniayour complaining that people are idling in a channel your in18:54
ikoniaI wish to make a complaint18:54
ikoniakahrytan: is snooping on me by existing in a channel I'm in18:54
ikoniaI am not happy with this18:54
Piciikonia: I think you should drop it.18:54
ikoniadone18:54
kahrytanYou are hilariously funny18:54
Picikahrytan: you too.18:55
naliothkahrytan: unfortunately, _any_ #ubuntu* channel is open to _anyone_18:55
PiciUntil the named people come around to deal with the issue, I think it would be best not to do... oh.. nevermind.18:55
kahrytanTrue but I know why you are there.18:55
Garykahrytan, anyways, they are not being funny or anything, they are just doing their jobs, snooping as you call it could also be called monioring for trouble, and is a wise thing for any op to do.18:56
kahrytanGary➲  And there isn't any. nor will be18:56
Garyand they will realise this, and life will go on, all of us happy and dancing18:57
naliothkahrytan: do you live in Hawaii?18:57
kahrytanI am moving, nalioth.18:57
naliothkahrytan: are you the head of the Hawaii loco team?18:58
kahrytanOne of them18:58
naliothso you don't live in Hawaii, but are 'one of' the members of their loco team18:58
kahrytannalioth➲ and your point being?18:59
PiciI think he was just curious.19:00
kahrytanI am moving to hawai`i in 12 days.19:00
kahrytanand if you want to stalk me, i will be at 84-740 Kili Drive, Waianae, HI, 9679219:02
naliothkahrytan: your persistent belief that everyone is out to get you is self-fulfilling19:03
kahrytannalioth, thats a condo building that has guards19:03
naliothkahrytan: why does https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhawaii lead to a 404 ?19:04
Picinalioth: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hawaii19:05
naliothPici: that is not my question19:06
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kahrytannalioth➲  because it was changed to fix naming standards?19:07
naliothkahrytan: what was changed?19:07
kahrytannalioth, launchpad address19:08
kahrytannalioth➲  want proof it is co-foundeded, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hawaii/+members19:09
Davieyikonia: i'm idle in 6 channels your also in19:13
Davieyhmm, make that 5 now19:13
kahrytannalioth➲  Oh yeah, As cofounder, we SHARE an email address.19:14
PriceChildkahrytan, I have been told that is a half truth... in that you're the only one with a password.19:16
kahrytanPriceChild➲  wrong19:17
kahrytanWhat will it take for -ops to stop monitoring me?19:35
Garykahrytan, time19:36
Garyit is that simple, be good, they get bored and do work, I mean other things19:37
kahrytan Though, Aloha Law in LoCo stand does stand. it is addition to CoC.19:37
PriceChildkahrytan, you have quite a bad record so far and it is up to individual operators when they decide they trust you in leading channels like that.19:38
kahrytanHawai`i Revised Statutes, section 5-7.5 Aka Aloha Law.19:38
ikonia????19:39
kahrytanAll citizens and government officials of Hawai`i are obligated by law to conduct themselves in accordance with this law, while performing their duties and obligations, as well as in their day-to-day living.19:39
ikoniaso?19:39
kahrytanThe Aloha Spirit is the coordination of the True Self's mind, heart and soul, manifested by thinking good thoughts, emoting good feelings, and sharing goodness with others.19:40
ikonia??19:40
Garythats nice, but offtopic kahrytan19:40
kahrytanPriceChild➲  my record is mostly in butting heads with -ops19:41
effie_jayxhey19:42
PriceChildkahrytan, I am unsure what you are trying to say?19:42
effie_jayxsomeone just walzted in my channel and gave a rm -rf / to a noob19:42
effie_jayxdamaged his system19:42
PriceChildeffie_jayx, ban19:42
effie_jayxPriceChild,  I did that19:43
effie_jayxanything else I can do?19:43
kahrytanI am not that much of a noob19:43
PriceChildI think they've gotten bored posting them on the forums, haven't had any in ages *touches wood*19:43
PriceChildeffie_jayx, nick?19:43
kahrytanThat would kill linux entirely19:43
PriceChildkahrytan, lets stay on topic please19:43
effie_jayxPriceChild,  alberkman>19:43
effie_jayxPriceChild,  alberkman19:43
effie_jayxPriceChild,  anything else I can do?19:45
jpatrickeffie_jayx: someone did that on #ubuntu-es, wasn't very pretty, yeah19:45
kahrytanPriceChild➲ i promise you, I won't cause trouble in my loco channel. I do have to set an example.19:45
effie_jayxpoor guy19:46
PriceChildErm.... "good".19:46
kahrytanWhat effie_jayx ?19:46
effie_jayxit wrecked his gnome-terminal19:46
naliothkahrytan: whining about folks 'who are monitoring' isn't setting an example19:47
Picikahrytan: effie_jayx is talking about a different issue. Not you.19:47
kahrytanPriceChild➲  But could -ops at least keep it one op and not  is seemingly the entire -ops?19:48
PriceChildkahrytan, I don't tell fellow ops where they can and can't go.19:48
kahrytanie, Someone other then nalioth who likes to, even now, try to piss me off.19:49
PriceChildkahrytan, especially with members of the irc council or freenode staffers... they may appear places with their own reasons.19:49
PriceChildkahrytan, that is definitely not helping.19:49
effie_jayxPriceChild,  not much I can do than just ban19:50
PriceChildeffie_jayx, not really.19:50
effie_jayxwhich is not really punishment since the guy doesn't even use ubuntu19:50
ompaulkahrytan, your opinion may not be correct, it is your opinion, however we do not share it. Guess that makes us right in our minds and you right in yours.19:50
ikoniaeffie_jayx: can you help teh guy recover his system, the rm -rf may have not gotten all the way through his folders19:50
kahrytanPriceChild➲  nalioth is being annoying and constantly nitpicking.19:50
PriceChildeffie_jayx, if he does it in other channels then things can be escalated.19:50
effie_jayxikonia,  I am trying19:51
ikoniaeffie_jayx: want a hand ?19:51
effie_jayxI really don't know howmuch got lost19:51
effie_jayxikonia,  sure19:51
ikoniaeffie_jayx: what channel ?19:51
effie_jayx#ubuntu-ve19:51
PriceChildkahrytan, nalioth is a ridiculously experienced ircop and chanop, and one of the IRC Council. I can't remember a time where his judgement has been anything less than impeccable. He is in #ubuntu-us-hi for a reason.19:51
PriceChildgah19:51
PriceChildwait yes that is the right channel.19:52
kahrytanPriceChild➲ not talking about judgement. hes attitude towards me can be borderline disrespectful. And is nitpicking.19:52
PriceChildkahrytan, if you believe that he has violated the Ubuntu IRC Guidelines, CoC or LCoC, then please get me logs to pricechild@ubuntu.com19:53
PriceChildIn my opinion all he has done is disagree with you.19:53
PriceChildWe have gone over this issue before and no further discussion is needed.19:54
kahrytanPriceChild➲  "<nalioth> kahrytan: whining about folks 'who are monitoring' isn't setting an example" is not all respectful19:54
ompaulkahrytan, it is a fact you whine, it is a fact you whine about -ops19:55
ompaulkahrytan, the question is therefore19:55
mc44<kahrytan> Is there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?" is not at all respectful19:55
PriceChildPerhaps not as polite as it could be... however you have taken a huge amount of our time... and are not getting the point19:55
effie_jayxPriceChild,  it is pretty frustrating19:55
ompaulkahrytan, the one I asked you last time and you declined to answer19:55
kahrytanompaul➲ What you can call whine can also be call a compliant.19:55
mc44"<kahrytan> PriceChild➲  nalioth is being annoying and constantly nitpicking." is not at all respectful19:55
effie_jayxthe guys goes about happy . and he wrecked a guys system19:56
effie_jayxI need help with the guy19:56
PriceChildeffie_jayx, if he evades the ban then there are more things that can be done. But if he doesn't come back then there's not much more to do. It is a lesson to the user. Point him to the announcement on the forums?19:56
effie_jayxhe just evaded the ban19:56
PriceChildeffie_jayx, what channel is it?19:57
effie_jayx#ubuntu-ve19:57
ompauleffie_jayx, the sad fact is that the internet has trolls who should really cop on to themselves and stop working against their fellow humans, and get on with life rather than dancing in puddles screaming look at me - like your bad one there - being older they pick bigger puddles so to speak19:57
kahrytanompaul➲  Well said ^^^^19:58
* ompaul scratches his head20:00
ompaulwas it something I said20:01
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mc44ompaul: kahrytan obviously realised he fit your description ;)20:01
Picipot. kettle.20:01
effie_jayxompaul,  heh...20:02
ompaulpenny             dropped20:02
effie_jayxit only builds up...20:02
ompaullittle splash20:02
ompauland the odd wave20:02
effie_jayxthe guy belongs to a lug that is infamous20:02
ompaulsine of the times20:02
Piciompaul: ugh....20:02
effie_jayxand they think they can go about life telling everyone to RTFM20:02
effie_jayxikonia,  thanks20:03
ikoniaeffie_jayx: welcome20:03
ompauleffie_jayx, well for them the pain is the truth, the internet is not a small club, not is the gnu/linux using community20:03
ompauleffie_jayx, you can of course suggest to them the following, thank you for your contributions to the people are not safe on linux thought base, well done, how much do MS pay you for this?20:04
ompaulidiots20:05
* ompaul gets slightly annoyed20:05
effie_jayxompaul,  I can still see him20:05
effie_jayxhe is online20:05
ompauleffie_jayx, as that userid?20:06
effie_jayxyes20:06
PiciI can whois him, but I don't see him in any channels.20:06
effie_jayxPici,  try #velug20:07
Picieffie_jayx: ah.20:07
ompauleffie_jayx, you got a pm20:08
effie_jayxompaul,  thanks :D20:08
effie_jayxchannel is filling up with lurkers20:09
ompauleffie_jayx, which one?20:10
ompaul-ve?20:10
effie_jayxnalioth,  lots or joins from his friends20:10
effie_jayxI HATE this20:12
effie_jayxI totally detest it...20:12
effie_jayxlots of lurkers just checking the channel out20:12
effie_jayxnalioth,  is there something I can do20:12
effie_jayx?20:12
ompauleffie_jayx, not a lot20:12
effie_jayxompaul,  #ubuntu-ve ... yes20:13
ompauleffie_jayx, more than likely him20:13
naliotheffie_jayx: if they don't do anything, don't worry about it20:13
effie_jayxnalioth,  ok20:14
ompauleffie_jayx, can you check your pm please20:14
ompaulbrb20:14
effie_jayxnewsflash20:48
effie_jayxthe guys is fixing his system20:48
ompauleffie_jayx, :)20:48
effie_jayxand I contronted the troll and made him look like an idiot.20:48
effie_jayxompaul,  thanks20:48
ompauleffie_jayx, well I pmed him all that20:48
effie_jayxompaul,  you did20:49
ompauleffie_jayx, he is not feeling so comfortable20:49
effie_jayxhe's trying to rub it off20:49
ompauleffie_jayx, say this20:50
ompauldebian -> ubuntu -> gnewsense20:50
ompaulif you wabnt20:50
ompaulwant20:50
ompaulfrankly I have sat in a pub with the president of FSFLA20:50
effie_jayxreally20:51
effie_jayxand I have talked with two observers from the FSFLA20:51
ompaulthe software I drove into existence is used by RMS aand the FSF20:51
effie_jayxand they agree with me20:51
ompaulhehe20:51
ompauleffie_jayx, F Heinz is a good guy, very persuasive in three languages20:52
MyrttiMoJiTos <320:52
ompaulthe unstoppable argument in search of a place to rest20:52
effie_jayxompaul,  thanks for your support20:52
effie_jayxit really means a lot20:53
ompauleffie_jayx, no problem20:53
atlfalcons866why am i banned from the ubuntu and kubuntu rooms21:00
ompaullets find out21:04
ompaulatlfalcons866, the logs are hard to get at please wait a few minutes while I try to find the right one21:06
ompaulatlfalcons866, using this logon calling ops  skyfalcon866  in several channels within minutes got that happening21:10
ompaulatlfalcons866, and you did not complain about ubuntu+1 also21:10
ompaulthe same reason for all21:10
atlfalcons866well i didnt do thatg21:10
ompaulcalling ops21:10
ompaulwell that is funny given the IP and also given the nick being so similar21:11
ompaulfunny as in strange coincidence21:11
atlfalcons866well my brother does this stuff all the time21:11
atlfalcons866so it could have been him21:11
atlfalcons866well w/e i dont use kubuntu or ubuntu any more so it dosent matter anyway21:14
ompaulI am reading my personal logs and you do seem to ask rather interesting questions - pity21:14
ompaulhe left21:14
ikoniaguys, can I request an update to the topic in #ubuntu and #kubuntu again please, and the re-issue of the factoid !flashissues21:15
ompaul!flashissues21:15
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is in -proposed21:15
ompaulI'll do ubuntu don't think I can in k21:15
ikoniasuper21:16
PriceChild!no flashissues is <reply> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.21:16
ubotuI'll remember that PriceChild21:16
ikoniathe fix in proposed has been withdrawn21:16
PriceChildompaul, i'll look after k21:16
Mez/join #ubuntu-knitting21:16
ikoniathe critical part is that downloading the new flash plugin manually will bork in kubuntu (konqueror)21:16
ompauldon't you just hate when they screw up like that21:18
jussi01PriceChild: you said you will do #kubuntu ?21:19
jussi01:)21:20
PriceChildwas fixing #ubuntu's, now done #kubuntu21:20
jussi01:)21:20
ikoniaompaul: it's not a screw up21:24
ikoniachange of direction21:24
ikoniaooh you mean adobe21:24
ompaulikonia, aye21:24
ikoniasorry, I was slow21:24
ompaulPriceChild, thanks you caould have asked me21:25
ompaul:)21:25
* ompaul pretends to be really hurt by PriceChild 21:25
ompaulhaha21:25
jussi01PriceChild: am I _really_ lagged or has it not taken in #kubuntu ?21:25
Myrttipurr21:25
jussi01hmmm... where did PriceChild go?21:30
jussi01Myrtti: if you have a minute, (and you know) - could you tell me where in the theme file is the setting for the background  color of the topic and status bars?21:32
Myrttihrmmm21:33
Myrttitowards the end?21:33
jussi01hmmm, yeah looks like that, still have no idea what to change though...21:35
jussi01gah... netsplits :(21:35
jussi01wb Myrtti21:38
Myrttiwb?21:40
jussi01welcome back21:40
Myrttioh :-)21:41
MyrttiI watched Pretty Woman yesterday and seeing cute Linux geeks talking about Postgres's inner joins and implementation level of SQL:92 was too much for me combined21:42
jussi01hehehe21:42
jussi01and pricechild is gone... :(21:44
jussi01Im going to go and fix the #kubuntu topic - as pricechilds attempt got lost somewhere by the look of it.21:45
ubotuSpec called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()22:01
Garydamn, can the ops trigger be modified so in -offtopic and -uk it triggers moi too?22:08
Tm_TGary: I just have ops trigger in hilight itself =)22:11
Garythat would work :p22:12
Tm_Tbtw look how I'm on vacation22:18
effie_jayxping22:27
Tm_Teffie_jayx: yes?22:27
effie_jayx!ops22:27
ubotuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!22:27
ubotueffie_jayx called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()22:27
effie_jayxI need help22:27
ompauleffie_jayx, go for it22:28
Tm_Teffie_jayx: just ask =)22:28
ompaulin your own channel22:28
effie_jayxok22:28
ompaulor hjere?22:28
ompaulor where?22:28
Tm_Teffie_jayx: never call ops just for help22:28
Tm_Teffie_jayx: and just ask, don't ask to ask22:28
stdinif it's not a "Channel emergency", calling ops is abusing the trigger22:29
Tm_Tyup22:29
Myrttii was almost asleep22:29
effie_jayxsorry22:29
effie_jayxin my channel22:29
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 22:30
effie_jayxsorry22:30
effie_jayxI made a mistake22:30
Tm_Teffie_jayx: what was this all about?22:30
* Tm_T is confused22:30
Myrttipurr22:30
* Tm_T hides22:30
effie_jayxTm_T,  I am getting random joins from people over a ban today22:30
Tm_Tahah22:31
effie_jayxrm -rf22:31
ompaulTm_T, he had a bad time earlier today ^^ so22:31
ompaulI think he is allowed a little leaway :)22:31
Tm_Tsure22:31
Tm_TI was just curious what was the issue22:31
Tm_Tno harm meant :)22:31
Tm_TMyrtti: jabber is dead?22:32
PriceChildGrrrr DSL line went down.22:35
Jack_Sparrowsame here22:35
Tm_Thmm, okie22:35
Tm_Tglad my irssi is not relying on my dsl line :p22:36
Myrttitm_t: no cliem in N9522:36
Tm_TMyrtti: aa roger22:36
Tm_TMyrtti: bitlbee?22:36
MyrttiNo open ports yet for it22:37
Tm_Troger22:37
Myrttisleep...22:37
Tm_TMyrtti: nighty night :)22:37
Myrttibuhbye22:37
AlgorthmicControOh, pretty colors.22:38
Tm_TAlgorthmicContro: hi how can we help you?22:39
PriceChildThe +s signify ops AlgorthmicContro.22:39
ompaulAlgorthmicContro, why are you here?22:43
* tonyyarusso is now a Microsoft Certified Professional. Let the tomato-throwing commence.22:44
AlgorthmicControTm_T: I wouldn't know if you're capable of helping, however I was banned for posting a rm -rf type command, I realize it was very malicious and foolish of me to do so, subsequentl I was banned from #ubuntu22:44
* AlgorthmicContro throws tomato's at tonyyarusso22:44
ompaulAlgorthmicContro, your sense of humour is rubbish, what you said in #ubuntu, you know, if I had my way, when someone said that they should have all their gnu take away22:44
ompaultonyyarusso, SHAME ON YOU22:44
tonyyarussoompaul: I know...it's sad.22:44
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: congrats22:44
AlgorthmicControompaul: ok22:47
* nalioth cuts off tonyyarussos powerpc account access22:47
ompaulLjL, you about22:47
tonyyarussoawww22:47
ompaultonyyarusso, you are certified dark side now22:48
naliothi vote we expel him from freenode22:48
tonyyarussoompaul: for the time being anyway.  The funny part is that it's actually part of a program that will later result (hopefully) in LPI I and II certs, plus some other random ones.  This just happens to be the first.22:49
Tm_They now22:49
Tm_TAlgorthmicContro: when were you banned?22:49
ompaulTm_T, less than 24 hours ago22:50
Tm_Tokie22:50
Tm_Tompaul: see him next week that is?22:50
ompaulTm_T, I am leaving it to the relevant op who is not replying to my shout outs22:51
Tm_Tompaul: ah roger, thanks22:51
Tm_TAlgorthmicContro: and welcome to the dark side of the moon22:51
AlgorthmicControTm_T: Aw, pity.22:51
Tm_Tpity?22:52
* somerville32 eats chicken22:52
AlgorthmicControTm_T: what dark side?22:53
ompaulthe side you never see22:53
Tm_Tthaats the one22:53
ompaulin soviet irc chickens eat somerville3222:53
Tm_Tompaul: that's not funny22:54
ompaulTm_T, it is not even ironic - in fact it is pretty much rubbish22:54
Tm_Tyup22:54
* ompaul announces self as worst punner and worst non punner bad comment maker22:54
somerville32Helpful note to everyone: Don't eat a pound of bacon on an empty stomach :(22:56
Tm_Tsomerville32: why not?22:56
Tm_Tsomerville32: and how much is pound in grams?22:56
ompaul453 grams22:56
Tm_Thmm, that's not much?22:56
ompaulit is enough22:57
somerville32Thats an entire package :P22:57
ompaulfor one person22:57
tonyyarussommmmmmm, bacon22:57
ompaulin fact it is enough for two people22:57
LjLompaul: yes22:57
Tm_Tnah22:57
ompaulLjL, we had AlgorthmicContro  in22:57
ompaulthat was all22:57
somerville32Tm_T, because I suspect it is what has made me ill :(22:57
* Tm_T eats ~700 g pizza with ~300 g extra toppings22:58
Tm_Tand then I wonder what else I should eat :(22:58
LjLompaul: rm -rf, uhm, IIRC he did something like "nohup rm -rf / &", that's about as malicious as it gets...22:59
ompaulyeap22:59
ompaulso a week perhaps22:59
ompaulmaybe more22:59
Tm_T:)22:59
* jussi01 throws a peice of poro at Tm_T 22:59
Tm_Twell review in a week?22:59
Tm_Tjussi01: heart that is?22:59
ompaulin fact he did -fr which says in case of highlights22:59
ompauldon't trigger them22:59
LjLhe did, wow.23:00
LjLthen sure, make it in a week23:00
LjLbut i think "ljl" will not highlight me in a week23:00
ompaulLjL, for review23:00
ompaulLjL, why not - you on a world tour of milano?23:00
ompaulor it is christmas eve23:01
Jack_SparrowHI guys.. can anyone verify this works to fix flash for now and is something we should be offering up as advise23:01
Jack_SparrowThe workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal. Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb23:01
LjLyeah, so many nice little places out of the city gates which i've never seen23:01
* jussi01 -> kde4 testing.... back in a bit!23:01
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: that fixes what?23:01
ompaulikonia, ^^ please check Jack_Sparrow's comment23:01
Jack_SparrowSupposed to get flash working23:01
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: more23:02
Tm_Thow it is/was broken23:02
Jack_SparrowStill is broken per our own topic23:02
ompaulTm_T, scroll back you will see that adobe chanced stuff23:02
LjLompaul: no really, just saying if he went as far as putting the command in such a way that we'd not get highlighted by it, then i think the least he deserves is that everybody pretends not to be highlighted by him when he comes for review :)23:02
ompaulchanged even23:02
Tm_Tompaul: yes, that's isn't still enough to me to know which issue that is23:02
Tm_Tthere's several idiocies23:03
* ompaul rofl - LjL you is evil23:03
* ompaul goes to watch a ted talk 23:03
somerville32Jack_Sparrow, The new version of flash breaks Konq because Konq doesn't support XEmbed.23:03
somerville32The new flash works fine for Firefox users23:03
Tm_Tsomerville32: GTKembed wasn't it?23:04
Jack_Sparrowsomerville32: We see a lot of people fighting it that dont use konq23:04
Jack_Sparrowsomerville32: Would just like to make sure we/I give out the best latest info.23:04
=== jussi01_ is now known as jussi01
somerville32I'm pretty sure it is in -proposed too23:06
ubotuvocx called the ops in #ubuntu ()23:06
Jack_Sparrowsomerville32: I am a bit groggy here, but I did see that earlier today and there was some issue, perhaps that the other had not been completely removed.23:08
jussi01somerville32: I thought ikonia said earlier that it was taken out of -proposed23:11
somerville32Looks like it23:13
somerville32hmm23:13
ikoniaflash has been removed out of proposed and requires a fresh approach23:14
PriceChildIt is being discussed on the MLs23:15
ikoniathe issue was regarding konqueror and opera, the fix works for gnome/firefox, however a decision was taken to fix all or none23:15
Jack_SparrowHi Ik,,   Did you see my note above23:15
ikoniayes, I'm about to post23:15
LjLikonia: that's democratic.23:24
ompaulLjL, but bug fixes should work not be democratic ;-)23:24
Jack_SparrowSorry guys, I am out of it today.. Didn't mean to poke the bear....23:24
somerville32Jack_Sparrow, ... what do you mean?23:25
Jack_SparrowBringing up the flash issue..23:25
somerville32Yes but what do you mean poke the bear?23:25
somerville32Who is acting like a bear?23:25
Jack_Sparrowsomerville32: Took some cold meds and feeling fuzzy all over23:25
LjLompaul: i'm a kde user, and i democratically laugh at you for not getting the fix because i can't get it either.23:26
Jack_Sparrowsomerville32: no one acting wrongly...23:26
ompaulLjL, you are kwrong for doing it like that23:26
somerville32Jack_Sparrow, I just don't know what you're apologizing for.23:26
Jack_SparrowFor my not being with it...23:27
somerville32:S I didn't get the impression you were out of it :/23:27
Jack_SparrowVery much so...  barely keep up with the channel today23:28
LjLompaul: not that you would need the fix for something nonfree anyway23:28
ompaulLjL, no but the masses need their tube of youness23:29
somerville32What do you call the thing you get when you become a member?23:32
somerville32A shadow?23:32
somerville32lol23:32
* somerville32 is brain dead today too23:32
LjLpff23:32
LjLcloak23:32
somerville32Right23:32
somerville32What was the rational behind not having different types?23:32
somerville32like ubuntu/developer23:32
PriceChildwhat defines a developer?23:32
ompaulcos you are part of that community or you are part of that community23:33
PriceChildMaybe I think I deserve a developer cloak as I maintain a package in universe?23:33
Tm_TPriceChild: naaaah23:33
Tm_TPriceChild: you need something ugly like mine23:33
PriceChildThe main reason though is just to keep things equal. Everyone is equal, no elitism etc.23:33
somerville32Is the argument similar for not having xubuntu/member cloaks?23:35
ompaulsomerville32, you don't get a cloak when you become a member23:35
ompaulyou only get one when you ask for one23:35
Jack_SparrowI have a cape.. does that count..  told you I was feeling punchy23:35
somerville32right.23:35
ompaulsomerville32, note that cjw does not have a cloak - and you can't suggest he is not core23:35
Tm_Thow about Riddell? ;)23:36
ompaulTm_T, you got his name wrong23:36
ompaulKjriddell23:36
ompaulhehe23:36
Tm_Tompaul: .23:37
ompaulTm_T, he has a kde cloak23:37
Tm_Tompaul: and?23:37
ompaulyou asked23:37
Tm_TI know23:37
ompaulI tell and there is no and23:37
Tm_Tbut he doesn't have Ubuntu cloak23:37
Tm_Tand still he is Ubuntu devel23:37
ompaulTm_T, no he is a kubuntu dev :)23:38
Tm_Tdifference is...23:38
ompaulblame Jeff Waugh23:38
Tm_TI blame you23:38
ompaulthen you are wrong23:38
Tm_Tfor that, I blame you still ;)23:39
ompaulyou always have to have the last word methinks23:40
Tm_Tglad I don't have to have, nor like to have, so say something for the closure, ompaul23:41

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