[00:57] <nalioth> well, that lasted all of 20 blissful minutes
[00:58] <nalioth> pieman caught the k-train, btw
[00:58] <ikonia> can pieman not be excused for havng an amusing nick ?
[00:58] <elkbuntu> ikonia, lets not go setting a precedence we dont want
[00:59] <LjL> ikonia: only one time in 3.14159
[00:59] <ikonia> ok
[00:59] <ikonia> I was of course teasing
[00:59] <ikonia> pieman is an ammusing name in the uk
[01:00] <elkbuntu> do enlighten us then, because nalioth, LjL and myself are not pommies
[01:00] <ikonia> ahhh
[01:00] <ikonia> pieman is an ammusing name for some one a little more round and jolly than the average person
[01:01] <elkbuntu> you guys are easily amused then
[01:01] <ikonia> yes, but it's a big of a silly name, hence he ammusment
[01:01] <LjL> elkbuntu: duh. they're british.
[01:01] <ikonia> it's not an insult
[01:01] <ikonia> just a bit of fun
[01:11] <LjL> tehm0nk-otherpc: need a test?
[01:11] <tehm0nk-otherpc> yeah i guess
[01:13]  * nalioth is not impressed with gutsy on ppc
[01:14] <LjL> oh, we still have ubuntu for ppc? how retro :>
[01:14] <nalioth> LjL: not only powerpc, but PlayStation3, also
[01:14] <LjL> well that's not retro
[01:14] <ikonia> ughh the ps3 is going nowhere
[01:15] <nalioth> it's got lesser users than the powerpc platform
[01:15] <ikonia> the hardware interaction will not allow it to do anything
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> erealz is a troll
[01:15] <ikonia> no, I think he's just a child
[01:15] <nalioth> do the new PPAs offer source packages?
[01:16] <PriceChild> yes
[01:16] <PriceChild> same as any other ubuntu repo
[01:16] <PriceChild> just use deb-src
[01:16] <nalioth> excellent
[01:16] <ikonia> nalioth: what do you plan to use ubuntu on your ps3 ?
[01:17] <nalioth> ikonia: i don't have a PS3.  i have a G5 powermac
[01:17] <ikonia> ooh, sorry, I miss-read. I thought you where using it on a ps3
[01:18] <nalioth> not yet
[01:33] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (Emmy)
[01:33] <ikonia> can someone please kick emmy - troll "are you all humans or robots" constant
[01:33] <ikonia> just timewaster/troll
[01:33] <ikonia> ok - now getting a/s/l type comments from him
[01:34] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: thank you
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> np
[04:20] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, NoiseBOX said: ubotu: my problem is the blacklist file ISN'T preventing them from loading. I'll have to check the init.rd
[12:05] <ikonia> heads up on yusuo trying to get people to tell him how to do DOS attacks
[12:05] <ikonia> when I've told him not to ask, he's trying in a more indirect approach "how do I get commands to repeat over and over"
[12:08] <ardchoille> ikonia: Thanks for the tip
[12:08] <ikonia> I've got my eye on his questions, just be ware
[12:09] <Pici> ikonia: thanks as always :)
[12:09] <ikonia> no problem
[12:33] <ikonia> again, head up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48533/ yusuo is trying to write a script to get his mate to execute an infinate loop to take down his machine
[12:36] <ikonia> user exited and re-entered using nick  hiddenpimpdaddy
[12:36] <ikonia> can anyone put an eye or note on yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com
[12:36] <Pici> Are you sure? It looks like hes trying to get some free mp3s to me.
[12:36]  * jussi01 sighs... hiddenpimpdaddy...
[12:36] <ikonia> Pici: %150
[12:37] <ikonia> Pici: look at his loop - its one file
[12:37] <ikonia> he is trying to get it to execute in a loop so it keeps launching downloads
[12:37] <ikonia> before the others finish
[12:37] <ikonia> Pici: plus he was telling the channel earlier he wants to do DOS attacks
[12:37] <Pici> I missed that part.
[12:37] <ikonia> yup
[12:37] <ikonia> I've been monitoring his questions and he's been subtly trying to find out how to take people's machines off the net
[12:38] <ikonia> this was his best attempt
[12:40] <ikonia> ok he's back in #ubuntu under the name yusuo
[12:47] <jussi01> ok, he has joined #ubuntforums
[12:50] <ikonia> Pici: heads up in #ubuntu-au hiddenpimpdaddy is looking for help with the DOS script
[12:50] <ikonia> jussi01: yup and ubuntu-au
[12:50] <jussi01> has someone !o4o him yet?
[12:50] <ikonia> in #ubuntu yes
[12:51] <jussi01> sigh...
[12:53] <jussi01> go ikonia!!
[12:57] <ikonia> well thats done
[12:58] <ikonia> any way a track on his ip can be put on
[12:58] <jussi01> ikonia: well done!
[12:58] <ikonia> or a note about his prebious attempts
[12:58] <ikonia> just for future reference
[13:01] <ikonia> jussi01: thank you
[13:02] <jussi01> ikonia: I detest people who want to do that kind of stuff.
[13:02] <ardchoille> Me too
[13:03] <ikonia> agreed
[13:03] <ikonia> elkbuntu: cake is on me
[13:03] <jussi01> oh, strike... he is in #ubuntustudio
[13:04] <elkbuntu> ikonia, chased him anywhere else i might have powers?
[13:04] <ikonia> #ubuntuforums #ubuntu-au now ubuntu studio
[13:05] <elkbuntu> iirc jdong can help for the forums, not sure who can help with studio
[13:05] <ikonia> jussi01: what nick now ?
[13:05] <ardchoille> I'm watching in #kubuntu, just in case.
[13:05] <elkbuntu> i'll hit up +1 now before he gets to it
[13:05] <jussi01> ikonia: itsonlyeducation
[13:05] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, just lock him out now. he's one that's earned it
[13:06] <elkbuntu> once they start prowling this widely, preemptive bans are useful to kill the fun
[13:06] <ikonia> strange that he wants ubuntu to do it
[13:06] <ardchoille> I won't get yelled at for a preemptive ban?
[13:06] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, you've been told to do it by one of the IRC council :)
[13:07] <jussi01> banned from #ubuntustudio
[13:07] <ardchoille> That'll work :)
[13:07] <ardchoille> So it's: /mode +b #kubuntu *!*@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com
[13:07] <ardchoille> ?
[13:08] <ardchoille> I usually let auto_bleh.pl do this stuff
[13:08] <elkbuntu> yep
[13:08] <elkbuntu> actually, you probably dont need the channel even, but it'll let you know soon enough
[13:08] <jussi01> dont you need the +b after #kubuntu ?
[13:08] <ikonia> I'll stick a note to some staffers to see if they can put an eye on his network
[13:09] <elkbuntu> ikonia, considering he's aol, he just needs to reset the connection to get a completely different mask
[13:09] <elkbuntu> but i get the feeling this joker isnt that smart
[13:09] <ikonia> agreed
[13:09] <ikonia> plus I've already mailed aol
[13:09] <ikonia> with his username
[13:09] <ikonia> breaching TOC
[13:10] <Tm_T> ardchoille: what you're doing? :p
[13:10] <elkbuntu> heh
[13:10] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, as per my orders
[13:10] <ardchoille> Trying to set a ban
[13:10] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, little loser trying to learn how to dos people
[13:10] <ardchoille> But the command elkbuntu told me didn't work
[13:11] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: aaah :)
[13:11] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, try /mode +b *!*@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com in the channel
[13:11] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: Thank you. I thought that was what I did
[13:12] <elkbuntu> irc commands suck
[13:12] <Tm_T> naah
[13:12] <elkbuntu> aaaanyway, bedtime. have fun with the anklebiter
[13:12] <jussi01> nite nite elkbuntu
[13:12] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: sleep well :)
[13:12] <ikonia> night, thank you
[13:12] <ardchoille> Good night, and thanks elkbuntu
[13:13] <jussi01> ardchoille: is that your first action ?
[13:14] <ardchoille> jussi01: It's my first without using auto_bleh.pl
[13:14] <jussi01> :D
[13:15] <ardchoille> Thanks to the good folks here, I'm learning
[13:15] <ikonia> guys, your action was appriciated
[13:15] <ikonia> thank you all
[13:16] <jussi01> ikonia: yours also!
[13:17] <ikonia> great to see prompt action against something that could have been an issue
[13:17] <jussi01> maybe PriceChild could sort #ubuntuforums?
[13:17] <PriceChild> grrrr what's gonig on?
[13:17] <Pici> grrr
[13:18] <jussi01> PriceChild: [15:11] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, little loser trying to learn how to dos people
[13:19] <PriceChild> Which one?
[13:19] <PriceChild> Pici, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:19] <jussi01> PriceChild: mailto:yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com
[13:19] <jussi01> stupid copy function...
[13:20] <PriceChild> ...
[13:23] <PriceChild> jussi01, who then?
[13:24] <jussi01> PriceChild: I gave it to you! yusuo@AC8D9F75.ipt.aol.com
[13:24] <PriceChild> did he hit multiple channels?
[13:24] <jussi01> yes
[13:24] <PriceChild> (sorry by your "stupid copy function" thought you had mispasted what ardchoille was dealing with above)
[13:24] <jussi01> #ubuntu, #ubuntuforums, #ubuntu-au, #ubuntustudio afaik
[13:25] <jussi01> PriceChild: all good.
[13:25] <PriceChild> #kubuntu as wel right?
[13:25] <jussi01> PriceChild: no, but we premptively did that
[13:25] <PriceChild> ok
[13:26] <jussi01> there may have been more channels we missed.
[13:33] <nixternal> hahahahahaha, you guys are talking about hiddenpimp or something aren't you?
[13:33] <nixternal> he was in ubuntu-chicago and I made fun of his AOL account
[13:33] <nixternal> he left promptly
[13:34] <ardchoille> hehe
[13:40] <Gary> well done nixternal
[13:47] <jussi01> nixternal: hehe... nice
[13:47] <LjL> wols_: beware troll
[13:52] <wols_> LjL: does flash still use /dev/dsp?
[13:53] <LjL> wols_, i don't really know to be honest, i suppose i can do an lsof right now though
[13:54] <LjL> wols_: or, perhaps not, since even amarok makes /dev/dsp show up as open in lsof
[14:33] <ubotu> In #xubuntu, thegeeker said: ubotu, what is your dilemma?
[14:34] <Pici> !bot > thegeeker
[14:52] <Gary> that damn ubotu, always chatting to me, but never replying to my questions :p
[14:58] <Pici> How does this sound:
[14:58] <Pici> !variant
[14:58] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distrubtions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, Freespire, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[14:59] <ikonia> well worded
[15:01] <stdin> how about adding LinuxMCE, that's apparently ubuntu based
[15:01] <ikonia> leave it at a few example
[15:01] <ikonia> people get the idea
[15:02] <ikonia> if it becomes a list you'll be held to randoms
[15:02] <ikonia> "you didn't say that in the list"
[15:02] <Pici> I switch out Freespire for MCE. But I dont want to add too many.
[15:05] <Pici> !variant =~ s/Freespire/LinuxMCE/
[15:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[15:06] <ikonia> thats good, it can take sed input
[16:56] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[16:56] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[16:56] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[16:58] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, PJC said: !patience is a virtue
[18:31] <PriceChild> apokryphos stepped down then?
[18:32] <Pici> hm?
[18:32] <ikonia> when/why ?
[18:42] <Gary> yeah, when? :'(
[18:42] <Gary> mind you, 27 weeks since he was last in -uk
[18:45] <kahrytan> Is there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?
[18:46] <ikonia> ?
[18:46] <Pici> kahrytan: What do you mean?
[18:46] <kahrytan> ask nalioth, vorian, and pricechild.
[18:47] <ikonia> why make such a comment then
[18:47] <Pici> I mean I dont understand what you mean by 'snooping' you?
[18:47] <ikonia> take it up with them
[18:48] <kahrytan> Not that it bothers me.
[18:48] <ikonia> the don't moan about it
[18:48] <kahrytan> Hanging out in hawaii loco channel doesnt bother me. Just annoying me
[18:48] <ikonia> kahrytan: if it doesn't bother you - be quiet about it
[18:48] <stdin> why? it's an open channel isn't it?
[18:49]  * Pici thinks we shouldnt be starting another argument over this.
[18:49] <ubot3> If nalioth wanted to snoop, he would. He is just being responsible to his duties.
[18:49] <kahrytan> which is to follow me?
[18:49] <ikonia> stdin: I'll cut to the chase  - kahrytan is a trouble maker and has been caught many times. He's not happy now that everyone is aware of it and won't tollerate it

[18:49] <Gary> slander, lets sue
[18:50] <kahrytan> lol
[18:50] <Pici> or is that libel?
[18:50] <ikonia> you can't sue for fact
[18:50] <stdin> ikonia: yeah, I haven't kept a close eye on the whole issue with him, but I've seen enough idling in here to have a grasp of it
[18:50] <Gary> Pici, no idea
[18:50] <ikonia> stdin: this is another tedious trouble making exercise
[18:51] <kahrytan>  Actually, the only trouble I cause is with -ops.
[18:51] <ikonia> kahrytan: if you have a problem, take it up with the people you have a problem with
[18:51] <ikonia> don't mouth of in here "again" while they are not around
[18:51] <Gary> have a nice christmas too
[18:51] <Pici> ikonia: he is, thats what this channel is for.
[18:52] <ikonia> I think we know he's not taking up any issue, just randomly spounting off
[18:52] <kahrytan> Mahalo Pici.
[18:52] <stdin> considering the 1st thing you say when you join is "Is there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?" you don't present yourself in the best light
[18:52] <kahrytan> Or I dont beat around the bush and get straight to the point.
[18:53] <ikonia> then get to the point
[18:53] <kahrytan> ikonia, I did that
[18:53] <kahrytan> ikonia➲  did you miss the point?
[18:53] <ikonia> yes
[18:54] <ikonia> your complaining that people are idling in a channel your in
[18:54] <ikonia> I wish to make a complaint
[18:54] <ikonia> kahrytan: is snooping on me by existing in a channel I'm in
[18:54] <ikonia> I am not happy with this
[18:54] <Pici> ikonia: I think you should drop it.
[18:54] <ikonia> done
[18:54] <kahrytan> You are hilariously funny
[18:55] <Pici> kahrytan: you too.
[18:55] <nalioth> kahrytan: unfortunately, _any_ #ubuntu* channel is open to _anyone_
[18:55] <Pici> Until the named people come around to deal with the issue, I think it would be best not to do... oh.. nevermind.
[18:55] <kahrytan> True but I know why you are there.
[18:56] <Gary> kahrytan, anyways, they are not being funny or anything, they are just doing their jobs, snooping as you call it could also be called monioring for trouble, and is a wise thing for any op to do.
[18:56] <kahrytan> Gary➲  And there isn't any. nor will be
[18:57] <Gary> and they will realise this, and life will go on, all of us happy and dancing
[18:57] <nalioth> kahrytan: do you live in Hawaii?
[18:57] <kahrytan> I am moving, nalioth.
[18:58] <nalioth> kahrytan: are you the head of the Hawaii loco team?
[18:58] <kahrytan> One of them
[18:58] <nalioth> so you don't live in Hawaii, but are 'one of' the members of their loco team
[18:59] <kahrytan> nalioth➲ and your point being?
[19:00] <Pici> I think he was just curious.
[19:00] <kahrytan> I am moving to hawai`i in 12 days.
[19:02] <kahrytan> and if you want to stalk me, i will be at 84-740 Kili Drive, Waianae, HI, 96792
[19:03] <nalioth> kahrytan: your persistent belief that everyone is out to get you is self-fulfilling
[19:03] <kahrytan> nalioth, thats a condo building that has guards
[19:04] <nalioth> kahrytan: why does https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhawaii lead to a 404 ?
[19:05] <Pici> nalioth: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hawaii
[19:06] <nalioth> Pici: that is not my question
[19:07] <kahrytan> nalioth➲  because it was changed to fix naming standards?
[19:07] <nalioth> kahrytan: what was changed?
[19:08] <kahrytan> nalioth, launchpad address
[19:09] <kahrytan> nalioth➲  want proof it is co-foundeded, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hawaii/+members
[19:13] <Daviey> ikonia: i'm idle in 6 channels your also in
[19:13] <Daviey> hmm, make that 5 now
[19:14] <kahrytan> nalioth➲  Oh yeah, As cofounder, we SHARE an email address.
[19:16] <PriceChild> kahrytan, I have been told that is a half truth... in that you're the only one with a password.
[19:17] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲  wrong
[19:35] <kahrytan> What will it take for -ops to stop monitoring me?
[19:36] <Gary> kahrytan, time
[19:37] <Gary> it is that simple, be good, they get bored and do work, I mean other things
[19:37] <kahrytan>  Though, Aloha Law in LoCo stand does stand. it is addition to CoC.
[19:38] <PriceChild> kahrytan, you have quite a bad record so far and it is up to individual operators when they decide they trust you in leading channels like that.
[19:38] <kahrytan> Hawai`i Revised Statutes, section 5-7.5 Aka Aloha Law.
[19:39] <ikonia> ????
[19:39] <kahrytan> All citizens and government officials of Hawai`i are obligated by law to conduct themselves in accordance with this law, while performing their duties and obligations, as well as in their day-to-day living.
[19:39] <ikonia> so?
[19:40] <kahrytan> The Aloha Spirit is the coordination of the True Self's mind, heart and soul, manifested by thinking good thoughts, emoting good feelings, and sharing goodness with others.
[19:40] <ikonia> ??
[19:40] <Gary> thats nice, but offtopic kahrytan
[19:41] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲  my record is mostly in butting heads with -ops
[19:42] <effie_jayx> hey
[19:42] <PriceChild> kahrytan, I am unsure what you are trying to say?
[19:42] <effie_jayx> someone just walzted in my channel and gave a rm -rf / to a noob
[19:42] <effie_jayx> damaged his system
[19:42] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, ban
[19:43] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  I did that
[19:43] <effie_jayx> anything else I can do?
[19:43] <kahrytan> I am not that much of a noob
[19:43] <PriceChild> I think they've gotten bored posting them on the forums, haven't had any in ages *touches wood*
[19:43] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, nick?
[19:43] <kahrytan> That would kill linux entirely
[19:43] <PriceChild> kahrytan, lets stay on topic please
[19:43] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  alberkman>
[19:43] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  alberkman
[19:45] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  anything else I can do?
[19:45] <jpatrick> effie_jayx: someone did that on #ubuntu-es, wasn't very pretty, yeah
[19:45] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲ i promise you, I won't cause trouble in my loco channel. I do have to set an example.
[19:46] <effie_jayx> poor guy
[19:46] <PriceChild> Erm.... "good".
[19:46] <kahrytan> What effie_jayx ?
[19:46] <effie_jayx> it wrecked his gnome-terminal
[19:47] <nalioth> kahrytan: whining about folks 'who are monitoring' isn't setting an example
[19:47] <Pici> kahrytan: effie_jayx is talking about a different issue. Not you.
[19:48] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲  But could -ops at least keep it one op and not  is seemingly the entire -ops?
[19:48] <PriceChild> kahrytan, I don't tell fellow ops where they can and can't go.
[19:49] <kahrytan> ie, Someone other then nalioth who likes to, even now, try to piss me off.
[19:49] <PriceChild> kahrytan, especially with members of the irc council or freenode staffers... they may appear places with their own reasons.
[19:49] <PriceChild> kahrytan, that is definitely not helping.
[19:50] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  not much I can do than just ban
[19:50] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, not really.
[19:50] <effie_jayx> which is not really punishment since the guy doesn't even use ubuntu
[19:50] <ompaul> kahrytan, your opinion may not be correct, it is your opinion, however we do not share it. Guess that makes us right in our minds and you right in yours.
[19:50] <ikonia> effie_jayx: can you help teh guy recover his system, the rm -rf may have not gotten all the way through his folders
[19:50] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲  nalioth is being annoying and constantly nitpicking.
[19:50] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, if he does it in other channels then things can be escalated.
[19:51] <effie_jayx> ikonia,  I am trying
[19:51] <ikonia> effie_jayx: want a hand ?
[19:51] <effie_jayx> I really don't know howmuch got lost
[19:51] <effie_jayx> ikonia,  sure
[19:51] <ikonia> effie_jayx: what channel ?
[19:51] <effie_jayx> #ubuntu-ve
[19:51] <PriceChild> kahrytan, nalioth is a ridiculously experienced ircop and chanop, and one of the IRC Council. I can't remember a time where his judgement has been anything less than impeccable. He is in #ubuntu-us-hi for a reason.
[19:51] <PriceChild> gah
[19:52] <PriceChild> wait yes that is the right channel.
[19:52] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲ not talking about judgement. hes attitude towards me can be borderline disrespectful. And is nitpicking.
[19:53] <PriceChild> kahrytan, if you believe that he has violated the Ubuntu IRC Guidelines, CoC or LCoC, then please get me logs to pricechild@ubuntu.com
[19:53] <PriceChild> In my opinion all he has done is disagree with you.
[19:54] <PriceChild> We have gone over this issue before and no further discussion is needed.
[19:54] <kahrytan> PriceChild➲  "<nalioth> kahrytan: whining about folks 'who are monitoring' isn't setting an example" is not all respectful
[19:55] <ompaul> kahrytan, it is a fact you whine, it is a fact you whine about -ops
[19:55] <ompaul> kahrytan, the question is therefore
 Is there a reason you guys want to snoop and harass me?" is not at all respectful
[19:55] <PriceChild> Perhaps not as polite as it could be... however you have taken a huge amount of our time... and are not getting the point
[19:55] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  it is pretty frustrating
[19:55] <ompaul> kahrytan, the one I asked you last time and you declined to answer
[19:55] <kahrytan> ompaul➲ What you can call whine can also be call a compliant.
[19:55] <mc44> "<kahrytan> PriceChild➲  nalioth is being annoying and constantly nitpicking." is not at all respectful
[19:56] <effie_jayx> the guys goes about happy . and he wrecked a guys system
[19:56] <effie_jayx> I need help with the guy
[19:56] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, if he evades the ban then there are more things that can be done. But if he doesn't come back then there's not much more to do. It is a lesson to the user. Point him to the announcement on the forums?
[19:56] <effie_jayx> he just evaded the ban
[19:57] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, what channel is it?
[19:57] <effie_jayx> #ubuntu-ve
[19:57] <ompaul> effie_jayx, the sad fact is that the internet has trolls who should really cop on to themselves and stop working against their fellow humans, and get on with life rather than dancing in puddles screaming look at me - like your bad one there - being older they pick bigger puddles so to speak
[19:58] <kahrytan> ompaul➲  Well said ^^^^
[20:00]  * ompaul scratches his head
[20:01] <ompaul> was it something I said
[20:01] <mc44> ompaul: kahrytan obviously realised he fit your description ;)
[20:01] <Pici> pot. kettle.
[20:02] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  heh...
[20:02] <ompaul> penny             dropped
[20:02] <effie_jayx> it only builds up...
[20:02] <ompaul> little splash
[20:02] <ompaul> and the odd wave
[20:02] <effie_jayx> the guy belongs to a lug that is infamous
[20:02] <ompaul> sine of the times
[20:02] <Pici> ompaul: ugh....
[20:02] <effie_jayx> and they think they can go about life telling everyone to RTFM
[20:03] <effie_jayx> ikonia,  thanks
[20:03] <ikonia> effie_jayx: welcome
[20:03] <ompaul> effie_jayx, well for them the pain is the truth, the internet is not a small club, not is the gnu/linux using community
[20:04] <ompaul> effie_jayx, you can of course suggest to them the following, thank you for your contributions to the people are not safe on linux thought base, well done, how much do MS pay you for this?
[20:05] <ompaul> idiots
[20:05]  * ompaul gets slightly annoyed
[20:05] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  I can still see him
[20:05] <effie_jayx> he is online
[20:06] <ompaul> effie_jayx, as that userid?
[20:06] <effie_jayx> yes
[20:06] <Pici> I can whois him, but I don't see him in any channels.
[20:07] <effie_jayx> Pici,  try #velug
[20:07] <Pici> effie_jayx: ah.
[20:08] <ompaul> effie_jayx, you got a pm
[20:08] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  thanks :D
[20:09] <effie_jayx> channel is filling up with lurkers
[20:10] <ompaul> effie_jayx, which one?
[20:10] <ompaul> -ve?
[20:10] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  lots or joins from his friends
[20:12] <effie_jayx> I HATE this
[20:12] <effie_jayx> I totally detest it...
[20:12] <effie_jayx> lots of lurkers just checking the channel out
[20:12] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  is there something I can do
[20:12] <effie_jayx> ?
[20:12] <ompaul> effie_jayx, not a lot
[20:13] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  #ubuntu-ve ... yes
[20:13] <ompaul> effie_jayx, more than likely him
[20:13] <nalioth> effie_jayx: if they don't do anything, don't worry about it
[20:14] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  ok
[20:14] <ompaul> effie_jayx, can you check your pm please
[20:14] <ompaul> brb
[20:48] <effie_jayx> newsflash
[20:48] <effie_jayx> the guys is fixing his system
[20:48] <ompaul> effie_jayx, :)
[20:48] <effie_jayx> and I contronted the troll and made him look like an idiot.
[20:48] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  thanks
[20:48] <ompaul> effie_jayx, well I pmed him all that
[20:49] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  you did
[20:49] <ompaul> effie_jayx, he is not feeling so comfortable
[20:49] <effie_jayx> he's trying to rub it off
[20:50] <ompaul> effie_jayx, say this
[20:50] <ompaul> debian -> ubuntu -> gnewsense
[20:50] <ompaul> if you wabnt
[20:50] <ompaul> want
[20:50] <ompaul> frankly I have sat in a pub with the president of FSFLA
[20:51] <effie_jayx> really
[20:51] <effie_jayx> and I have talked with two observers from the FSFLA
[20:51] <ompaul> the software I drove into existence is used by RMS aand the FSF
[20:51] <effie_jayx> and they agree with me
[20:51] <ompaul> hehe
[20:52] <ompaul> effie_jayx, F Heinz is a good guy, very persuasive in three languages
[20:52] <Myrtti> MoJiTos <3
[20:52] <ompaul> the unstoppable argument in search of a place to rest
[20:52] <effie_jayx> ompaul,  thanks for your support
[20:53] <effie_jayx> it really means a lot
[20:53] <ompaul> effie_jayx, no problem
[21:00] <atlfalcons866> why am i banned from the ubuntu and kubuntu rooms
[21:04] <ompaul> lets find out
[21:06] <ompaul> atlfalcons866, the logs are hard to get at please wait a few minutes while I try to find the right one
[21:10] <ompaul> atlfalcons866, using this logon calling ops  skyfalcon866  in several channels within minutes got that happening
[21:10] <ompaul> atlfalcons866, and you did not complain about ubuntu+1 also
[21:10] <ompaul> the same reason for all
[21:10] <atlfalcons866> well i didnt do thatg
[21:10] <ompaul> calling ops
[21:11] <ompaul> well that is funny given the IP and also given the nick being so similar
[21:11] <ompaul> funny as in strange coincidence
[21:11] <atlfalcons866> well my brother does this stuff all the time
[21:11] <atlfalcons866> so it could have been him
[21:14] <atlfalcons866> well w/e i dont use kubuntu or ubuntu any more so it dosent matter anyway
[21:14] <ompaul> I am reading my personal logs and you do seem to ask rather interesting questions - pity
[21:14] <ompaul> he left
[21:15] <ikonia> guys, can I request an update to the topic in #ubuntu and #kubuntu again please, and the re-issue of the factoid !flashissues
[21:15] <ompaul> !flashissues
[21:15] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is in -proposed
[21:15] <ompaul> I'll do ubuntu don't think I can in k
[21:16] <ikonia> super
[21:16] <PriceChild> !no flashissues is <reply> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[21:16] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[21:16] <ikonia> the fix in proposed has been withdrawn
[21:16] <PriceChild> ompaul, i'll look after k
[21:16] <Mez> /join #ubuntu-knitting
[21:16] <ikonia> the critical part is that downloading the new flash plugin manually will bork in kubuntu (konqueror)
[21:18] <ompaul> don't you just hate when they screw up like that
[21:19] <jussi01> PriceChild: you said you will do #kubuntu ?
[21:20] <jussi01> :)
[21:20] <PriceChild> was fixing #ubuntu's, now done #kubuntu
[21:20] <jussi01> :)
[21:24] <ikonia> ompaul: it's not a screw up
[21:24] <ikonia> change of direction
[21:24] <ikonia> ooh you mean adobe
[21:24] <ompaul> ikonia, aye
[21:24] <ikonia> sorry, I was slow
[21:25] <ompaul> PriceChild, thanks you caould have asked me
[21:25] <ompaul> :)
[21:25]  * ompaul pretends to be really hurt by PriceChild 
[21:25] <ompaul> haha
[21:25] <jussi01> PriceChild: am I _really_ lagged or has it not taken in #kubuntu ?
[21:25] <Myrtti> purr
[21:30] <jussi01> hmmm... where did PriceChild go?
[21:32] <jussi01> Myrtti: if you have a minute, (and you know) - could you tell me where in the theme file is the setting for the background  color of the topic and status bars?
[21:33] <Myrtti> hrmmm
[21:33] <Myrtti> towards the end?
[21:35] <jussi01> hmmm, yeah looks like that, still have no idea what to change though...
[21:35] <jussi01> gah... netsplits :(
[21:38] <jussi01> wb Myrtti
[21:40] <Myrtti> wb?
[21:40] <jussi01> welcome back
[21:41] <Myrtti> oh :-)
[21:42] <Myrtti> I watched Pretty Woman yesterday and seeing cute Linux geeks talking about Postgres's inner joins and implementation level of SQL:92 was too much for me combined
[21:42] <jussi01> hehehe
[21:44] <jussi01> and pricechild is gone... :(
[21:45] <jussi01> Im going to go and fix the #kubuntu topic - as pricechilds attempt got lost somewhere by the look of it.
[22:01] <ubotu> Spec called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()
[22:08] <Gary> damn, can the ops trigger be modified so in -offtopic and -uk it triggers moi too?
[22:11] <Tm_T> Gary: I just have ops trigger in hilight itself =)
[22:12] <Gary> that would work :p
[22:18] <Tm_T> btw look how I'm on vacation
[22:27] <effie_jayx> ping
[22:27] <Tm_T> effie_jayx: yes?
[22:27] <effie_jayx> !ops
[22:27] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[22:27] <ubotu> effie_jayx called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()
[22:27] <effie_jayx> I need help
[22:28] <ompaul> effie_jayx, go for it
[22:28] <Tm_T> effie_jayx: just ask =)
[22:28] <ompaul> in your own channel
[22:28] <effie_jayx> ok
[22:28] <ompaul> or hjere?
[22:28] <ompaul> or where?
[22:28] <Tm_T> effie_jayx: never call ops just for help
[22:28] <Tm_T> effie_jayx: and just ask, don't ask to ask
[22:29] <stdin> if it's not a "Channel emergency", calling ops is abusing the trigger
[22:29] <Tm_T> yup
[22:29] <Myrtti> i was almost asleep
[22:29] <effie_jayx> sorry
[22:29] <effie_jayx> in my channel
[22:30]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[22:30] <effie_jayx> sorry
[22:30] <effie_jayx> I made a mistake
[22:30] <Tm_T> effie_jayx: what was this all about?
[22:30]  * Tm_T is confused
[22:30] <Myrtti> purr
[22:30]  * Tm_T hides
[22:30] <effie_jayx> Tm_T,  I am getting random joins from people over a ban today
[22:31] <Tm_T> ahah
[22:31] <effie_jayx> rm -rf
[22:31] <ompaul> Tm_T, he had a bad time earlier today ^^ so
[22:31] <ompaul> I think he is allowed a little leaway :)
[22:31] <Tm_T> sure
[22:31] <Tm_T> I was just curious what was the issue
[22:31] <Tm_T> no harm meant :)
[22:32] <Tm_T> Myrtti: jabber is dead?
[22:35] <PriceChild> Grrrr DSL line went down.
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> same here
[22:35] <Tm_T> hmm, okie
[22:36] <Tm_T> glad my irssi is not relying on my dsl line :p
[22:36] <Myrtti> tm_t: no cliem in N95
[22:36] <Tm_T> Myrtti: aa roger
[22:36] <Tm_T> Myrtti: bitlbee?
[22:37] <Myrtti> No open ports yet for it
[22:37] <Tm_T> roger
[22:37] <Myrtti> sleep...
[22:37] <Tm_T> Myrtti: nighty night :)
[22:37] <Myrtti> buhbye
[22:38] <AlgorthmicContro> Oh, pretty colors.
[22:39] <Tm_T> AlgorthmicContro: hi how can we help you?
[22:39] <PriceChild> The +s signify ops AlgorthmicContro.
[22:43] <ompaul> AlgorthmicContro, why are you here?
[22:44]  * tonyyarusso is now a Microsoft Certified Professional.  Let the tomato-throwing commence.
[22:44] <AlgorthmicContro> Tm_T: I wouldn't know if you're capable of helping, however I was banned for posting a rm -rf type command, I realize it was very malicious and foolish of me to do so, subsequentl I was banned from #ubuntu
[22:44]  * AlgorthmicContro throws tomato's at tonyyarusso
[22:44] <ompaul> AlgorthmicContro, your sense of humour is rubbish, what you said in #ubuntu, you know, if I had my way, when someone said that they should have all their gnu take away
[22:44] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, SHAME ON YOU
[22:44] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I know...it's sad.
[22:44] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: congrats
[22:47] <AlgorthmicContro> ompaul: ok
[22:47]  * nalioth cuts off tonyyarussos powerpc account access
[22:47] <ompaul> LjL, you about
[22:47] <tonyyarusso> awww
[22:48] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, you are certified dark side now
[22:48] <nalioth> i vote we expel him from freenode
[22:49] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: for the time being anyway.  The funny part is that it's actually part of a program that will later result (hopefully) in LPI I and II certs, plus some other random ones.  This just happens to be the first.
[22:49] <Tm_T> hey now
[22:49] <Tm_T> AlgorthmicContro: when were you banned?
[22:50] <ompaul> Tm_T, less than 24 hours ago
[22:50] <Tm_T> okie
[22:50] <Tm_T> ompaul: see him next week that is?
[22:51] <ompaul> Tm_T, I am leaving it to the relevant op who is not replying to my shout outs
[22:51] <Tm_T> ompaul: ah roger, thanks
[22:51] <Tm_T> AlgorthmicContro: and welcome to the dark side of the moon
[22:51] <AlgorthmicContro> Tm_T: Aw, pity.
[22:52] <Tm_T> pity?
[22:52]  * somerville32 eats chicken
[22:53] <AlgorthmicContro> Tm_T: what dark side?
[22:53] <ompaul> the side you never see
[22:53] <Tm_T> thaats the one
[22:53] <ompaul> in soviet irc chickens eat somerville32
[22:54] <Tm_T> ompaul: that's not funny
[22:54] <ompaul> Tm_T, it is not even ironic - in fact it is pretty much rubbish
[22:54] <Tm_T> yup
[22:54]  * ompaul announces self as worst punner and worst non punner bad comment maker
[22:56] <somerville32> Helpful note to everyone: Don't eat a pound of bacon on an empty stomach :(
[22:56] <Tm_T> somerville32: why not?
[22:56] <Tm_T> somerville32: and how much is pound in grams?
[22:56] <ompaul> 453 grams
[22:56] <Tm_T> hmm, that's not much?
[22:57] <ompaul> it is enough
[22:57] <somerville32> Thats an entire package :P
[22:57] <ompaul> for one person
[22:57] <tonyyarusso> mmmmmmm, bacon
[22:57] <ompaul> in fact it is enough for two people
[22:57] <LjL> ompaul: yes
[22:57] <Tm_T> nah
[22:57] <ompaul> LjL, we had AlgorthmicContro  in
[22:57] <ompaul> that was all
[22:57] <somerville32> Tm_T, because I suspect it is what has made me ill :(
[22:58]  * Tm_T eats ~700 g pizza with ~300 g extra toppings
[22:58] <Tm_T> and then I wonder what else I should eat :(
[22:59] <LjL> ompaul: rm -rf, uhm, IIRC he did something like "nohup rm -rf / &", that's about as malicious as it gets...
[22:59] <ompaul> yeap
[22:59] <ompaul> so a week perhaps
[22:59] <ompaul> maybe more
[22:59] <Tm_T> :)
[22:59]  * jussi01 throws a peice of poro at Tm_T 
[22:59] <Tm_T> well review in a week?
[22:59] <Tm_T> jussi01: heart that is?
[22:59] <ompaul> in fact he did -fr which says in case of highlights
[22:59] <ompaul> don't trigger them
[23:00] <LjL> he did, wow.
[23:00] <LjL> then sure, make it in a week
[23:00] <LjL> but i think "ljl" will not highlight me in a week
[23:00] <ompaul> LjL, for review
[23:00] <ompaul> LjL, why not - you on a world tour of milano?
[23:01] <ompaul> or it is christmas eve
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> HI guys.. can anyone verify this works to fix flash for now and is something we should be offering up as advise
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> The workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal. Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[23:01] <LjL> yeah, so many nice little places out of the city gates which i've never seen
[23:01]  * jussi01 -> kde4 testing.... back in a bit!
[23:01] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: that fixes what?
[23:01] <ompaul> ikonia, ^^ please check Jack_Sparrow's comment
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Supposed to get flash working
[23:02] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: more
[23:02] <Tm_T> how it is/was broken
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Still is broken per our own topic
[23:02] <ompaul> Tm_T, scroll back you will see that adobe chanced stuff
[23:02] <LjL> ompaul: no really, just saying if he went as far as putting the command in such a way that we'd not get highlighted by it, then i think the least he deserves is that everybody pretends not to be highlighted by him when he comes for review :)
[23:02] <ompaul> changed even
[23:02] <Tm_T> ompaul: yes, that's isn't still enough to me to know which issue that is
[23:03] <Tm_T> there's several idiocies
[23:03]  * ompaul rofl - LjL you is evil
[23:03]  * ompaul goes to watch a ted talk 
[23:03] <somerville32> Jack_Sparrow, The new version of flash breaks Konq because Konq doesn't support XEmbed.
[23:03] <somerville32> The new flash works fine for Firefox users
[23:04] <Tm_T> somerville32: GTKembed wasn't it?
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> somerville32: We see a lot of people fighting it that dont use konq
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> somerville32: Would just like to make sure we/I give out the best latest info.
[23:06] <somerville32> I'm pretty sure it is in -proposed too
[23:06] <ubotu> vocx called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> somerville32: I am a bit groggy here, but I did see that earlier today and there was some issue, perhaps that the other had not been completely removed.
[23:11] <jussi01> somerville32: I thought ikonia said earlier that it was taken out of -proposed
[23:13] <somerville32> Looks like it
[23:13] <somerville32> hmm
[23:14] <ikonia> flash has been removed out of proposed and requires a fresh approach
[23:15] <PriceChild> It is being discussed on the MLs
[23:15] <ikonia> the issue was regarding konqueror and opera, the fix works for gnome/firefox, however a decision was taken to fix all or none
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi Ik,,   Did you see my note above
[23:15] <ikonia> yes, I'm about to post
[23:24] <LjL> ikonia: that's democratic.
[23:24] <ompaul> LjL, but bug fixes should work not be democratic ;-)
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry guys, I am out of it today.. Didn't mean to poke the bear....
[23:25] <somerville32> Jack_Sparrow, ... what do you mean?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Bringing up the flash issue..
[23:25] <somerville32> Yes but what do you mean poke the bear?
[23:25] <somerville32> Who is acting like a bear?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> somerville32: Took some cold meds and feeling fuzzy all over
[23:26] <LjL> ompaul: i'm a kde user, and i democratically laugh at you for not getting the fix because i can't get it either.
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> somerville32: no one acting wrongly...
[23:26] <ompaul> LjL, you are kwrong for doing it like that
[23:26] <somerville32> Jack_Sparrow, I just don't know what you're apologizing for.
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> For my not being with it...
[23:27] <somerville32> :S I didn't get the impression you were out of it :/
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Very much so...  barely keep up with the channel today
[23:28] <LjL> ompaul: not that you would need the fix for something nonfree anyway
[23:29] <ompaul> LjL, no but the masses need their tube of youness
[23:32] <somerville32> What do you call the thing you get when you become a member?
[23:32] <somerville32> A shadow?
[23:32] <somerville32> lol
[23:32]  * somerville32 is brain dead today too
[23:32] <LjL> pff
[23:32] <LjL> cloak
[23:32] <somerville32> Right
[23:32] <somerville32> What was the rational behind not having different types?
[23:32] <somerville32> like ubuntu/developer
[23:32] <PriceChild> what defines a developer?
[23:33] <ompaul> cos you are part of that community or you are part of that community
[23:33] <PriceChild> Maybe I think I deserve a developer cloak as I maintain a package in universe?
[23:33] <Tm_T> PriceChild: naaaah
[23:33] <Tm_T> PriceChild: you need something ugly like mine
[23:33] <PriceChild> The main reason though is just to keep things equal. Everyone is equal, no elitism etc.
[23:35] <somerville32> Is the argument similar for not having xubuntu/member cloaks?
[23:35] <ompaul> somerville32, you don't get a cloak when you become a member
[23:35] <ompaul> you only get one when you ask for one
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a cape.. does that count..  told you I was feeling punchy
[23:35] <somerville32> right.
[23:35] <ompaul> somerville32, note that cjw does not have a cloak - and you can't suggest he is not core
[23:36] <Tm_T> how about Riddell? ;)
[23:36] <ompaul> Tm_T, you got his name wrong
[23:36] <ompaul> Kjriddell
[23:36] <ompaul> hehe
[23:37] <Tm_T> ompaul: .
[23:37] <ompaul> Tm_T, he has a kde cloak
[23:37] <Tm_T> ompaul: and?
[23:37] <ompaul> you asked
[23:37] <Tm_T> I know
[23:37] <ompaul> I tell and there is no and
[23:37] <Tm_T> but he doesn't have Ubuntu cloak
[23:37] <Tm_T> and still he is Ubuntu devel
[23:38] <ompaul> Tm_T, no he is a kubuntu dev :)
[23:38] <Tm_T> difference is...
[23:38] <ompaul> blame Jeff Waugh
[23:38] <Tm_T> I blame you
[23:38] <ompaul> then you are wrong
[23:39] <Tm_T> for that, I blame you still ;)
[23:40] <ompaul> you always have to have the last word methinks
[23:41] <Tm_T> glad I don't have to have, nor like to have, so say something for the closure, ompaul