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| owh | Is there any reason that the ubuntu-jeos-builder script installs stuff like alsa or is that just because it's in main? | 00:19 |
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| === joerlend is now known as XiXaQ | ||
| Centaur5 | I'm trying to setup chillispot and freeradius and it appears that everything should be working but when I try to login it says login failed. syslog says that the radius request times out. When running radtest on the radius server it does accept my credentials. Do I have to open mysql to accept connections from other hosts? | 02:17 |
| mralphabet | Centaur5: is the radius request from a different machine? | 02:36 |
| mralphabet | Centaur5: if so, then probably | 02:36 |
| Centaur5 | mralphabet: Well the wireless client connects to chillispot on the radius server which is forwarded to a hotspotlogin script. I'm probably wrong but I just assumed chillispot controls everything else that goes on and would seem to be coming from localhost to the other daemons. | 02:40 |
| kraut | moin | 07:24 |
| _ruben | mornin | 07:30 |
| _ruben | hmm .. having a problem with ubuntu server gutsy under vmware: | 09:18 |
| _ruben | * Loading hardware drivers... | 09:19 |
| _ruben | error receiving uevent message: No buffer space available | 09:19 |
| bluefoxicy | anyone know about the new encrypted lvm in gutsy | 15:03 |
| bluefoxicy | particularly how to change the password | 15:03 |
| soren | bluefoxicy: I guess you have to add a new key and remove the old one. | 15:07 |
| soren | bluefoxicy: cryptsetup(8) is your friend. | 15:08 |
| bluefoxicy | soren: fixed in hardy right? ;) | 15:09 |
| bluefoxicy | GUI tools etc??? | 15:09 |
| soren | bluefoxicy: No. | 15:09 |
| bluefoxicy | bah, I can dream :P | 15:09 |
| soren | bluefoxicy: You can't fix something that's not broken. | 15:09 |
| bluefoxicy | missing useful feature == broken | 15:10 |
| soren | That's hardly useful. | 15:10 |
| bluefoxicy | just lower priority than crashers and holes | 15:10 |
| soren | In that case all software is broken. Perpetually so. | 15:10 |
| soren | Which renders any efforts towards the opposite useless. | 15:11 |
| bluefoxicy | no | 15:11 |
| soren | Yes. | 15:11 |
| soren | How's that for an argument. | 15:11 |
| soren | ? | 15:11 |
| bluefoxicy | have you ever noticed some software is abandonware and unmaintained? | 15:11 |
| soren | Yes. | 15:11 |
| soren | Point being? | 15:11 |
| bluefoxicy | and that software eventually gets replaced by something else actively maintained? | 15:11 |
| soren | Yes.... | 15:12 |
| soren | go on. | 15:12 |
| bluefoxicy | The assessment that all software is perpetually broken is correct | 15:12 |
| bluefoxicy | But the fact is | 15:12 |
| bluefoxicy | you can make the software less broken now, but it becomes more broken when someone else looks at it and goes "it should do XXXX" and 10% of the user base nods its heads | 15:12 |
| soren | So bugs don't exist until they're observed? | 15:13 |
| bluefoxicy | so, effectively, untouched software simply decays, as it becomes less and less suited to peoples' needs | 15:13 |
| bluefoxicy | YES :D | 15:13 |
| soren | That's not very useful either. | 15:13 |
| bluefoxicy | it doesn't have to be useful, it's just the truth | 15:14 |
| soren | We have too different views of what constitutes truth for this conversation to have any point in continuing. | 15:15 |
| dantalizing | lol | 15:15 |
| bluefoxicy | it's an observed fact then ;p | 15:15 |
| soren | We have too different views of what constitutes facts for this conversation to have any point in continuing. | 15:15 |
| bluefoxicy | pornview was great until a year or two after it stopped getting maintained for example | 15:15 |
| dantalizing | so, does windows 3.1, for instance, have more bugs now than in 1993 because its missing features? | 15:16 |
| soren | dantalizing: Depends... Noone's using it, so noone's observing said lack of features. | 15:16 |
| bluefoxicy | dantalizing: could you use windows 3.1 on a daily basis to get your work done effectively in 1993 without much trouble besides random hangs? | 15:16 |
| soren | bluefoxicy: Is that a rhetorical question? Is this? | 15:16 |
| bluefoxicy | well | 15:17 |
| kronus_ | Hi, I'm having a problem with my server's routing table, I think | 15:17 |
| bluefoxicy | point, back when 3.1 came out it landed on a bunch of business desktops. The had e-mail and word and image processing apps and databases and proprietary applications and all kinds of specialized things | 15:17 |
| dantalizing | ok, windows 98... i know some of the freegeek chapters are installing windows98 because they have old PCs.. .does windows98 have more bugs now than in 1999? | 15:17 |
| soren | kronus_: What's the problem? | 15:18 |
| MenZa | I'd hope not :p | 15:18 |
| kronus_ | the problem is that `man route` is not clear on what the routing table actually does | 15:18 |
| bluefoxicy | TODAY, if you go to an insurance company or to a dentist office or anything else and drop 3.1 in, it won't authenticate to the domain, won't run their proprietary apps, and won't run much else | 15:18 |
| kronus_ | and I'm having trouble accessing one subnet of my college network from another (wireless -> wired) | 15:18 |
| soren | kronus_: Well... It doesn't do much. It's a table :) The kernel does something based on its contents, though :) | 15:18 |
| kronus_ | and... I know the problem is an extra route somewhere, because it's been fixed before that way | 15:19 |
| kronus_ | but apparently only temporarily | 15:19 |
| kronus_ | soren - what does the kernel do with it? | 15:19 |
| soren | routes | 15:19 |
| soren | Clever, huh? :) | 15:19 |
| kronus_ | ok, back to basics :P what is a route? | 15:19 |
| bluefoxicy | a routing table basically says "I have 2 interfaces. Stuff going here goes out this one" | 15:19 |
| soren | It takes packets' destination IP, looks it up in the table and sends it to whereever the routing table says it should go. | 15:20 |
| kronus_ | ok, I have 5 routes in my table | 15:20 |
| kronus_ | and only 2 interfaces | 15:20 |
| soren | That's fine. | 15:20 |
| soren | Put the output of "route -n" on pastebin. | 15:20 |
| soren | ...along with a simple explanation of your network and then tell us the specific problem, you're seeing. | 15:21 |
| soren | !pastebin | 15:21 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 15:21 |
| kronus_ | that's exactly what I'm doing | 15:21 |
| soren | Cool | 15:21 |
| CarstenQ | Hi o/, I've just installed Ubuntu server 7.10 (Gutsy) with the OpenSSH server (4.6p1), but when trying to ssh from or to my Mac OS X 10.4.11 (ssh 4.5p1) the user or password isn't recognized (keeps asking for password), though it returns no errors. Anyone care to guess the problem? | 15:21 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Wrong password? | 15:21 |
| dantalizing | +1 | 15:22 |
| soren | It's not meant to give you any errors. | 15:22 |
| soren | That would give an attacker too much informatino. | 15:22 |
| bluefoxicy | CarstenQ: as a guess, MacOSX is stupid. Next question. | 15:22 |
| CarstenQ | yeah, guessed that, so i made an extreme simple username + pw | 15:22 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Look in /var/log/auth.log | 15:22 |
| CarstenQ | haha, noticed that | 15:22 |
| bluefoxicy | soren: indeed. I've seen such systems, they were easier to break into (found default users, looked up default passwords ;) | 15:22 |
| soren | CarstenQ: It's likely to give you info on why your login was rejected. | 15:22 |
| CarstenQ | looking for it now | 15:23 |
| dantalizing | do you have any DenyUsers or DenyGroups in your sshd_config? | 15:23 |
| CarstenQ | erm, I can't find that log in /var/log or /private/var/log, 'nother Mac thing? | 15:24 |
| soren | Er... Forget the mac. | 15:25 |
| CarstenQ | not that I know of (didn't change anything from fresh install) | 15:25 |
| soren | ...or ask someone else about it. | 15:25 |
| soren | Look on the Ubuntu box. | 15:25 |
| CarstenQ | nope, no denied users or groups | 15:25 |
| CarstenQ | well, thanks for the help anyway :) | 15:26 |
| soren | CarstenQ: We can help you with the failing to login on Ubuntu. | 15:26 |
| soren | CarstenQ: The other way? Not so much. | 15:27 |
| PecisDarbs | How to properly enable site to work with mod_perl? | 15:27 |
| PecisDarbs | in Apache | 15:27 |
| PecisDarbs | Google is full of suggestions, but nothing concrete | 15:27 |
| CarstenQ | yeah, shame I don't have an ubuntu box any more to test it with | 15:27 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Eh? | 15:28 |
| soren | CarstenQ: 16:21:42 < ~CarstenQ> Hi o/, I've just installed Ubuntu server 7.10 (Gutsy) with the OpenSSH server (4.6p1), | 15:28 |
| CarstenQ | you mean I should try to ssh from the server to itself? is that possible? | 15:28 |
| * CarstenQ starts trying | 15:29 | |
| soren | CarstenQ: From your mac to ubuntu. | 15:29 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Or from the server to the server is fine, too. | 15:29 |
| dantalizing | CarstenQ i think the point is you need to check the /var/log/auth.log on the ubuntu machine that you cannot ssh to, not your mac | 15:30 |
| CarstenQ | ah, ok, misunderstood that | 15:30 |
| soren | PecisDarbs: Noone is is likely to give you more exact and concrete info than google... It's pointless. People have spent a lot of time writing the stuff you found from google, and now you want us to write all the same stuff again. | 15:30 |
| kronus_ | soren - http://rafb.net/p/OoALbZ20.html | 15:30 |
| soren | kronus_: That's not the output of "route -n" | 15:30 |
| kronus_ | >__> yeah, that's route -v | 15:31 |
| kronus_ | force of habit, one sec | 15:31 |
| kronus_ | http://rafb.net/p/us9ZgB76.html | 15:31 |
| soren | kronus_: The computer is on both networks. | 15:32 |
| CarstenQ | soren: found the log, will type in pastebox | 15:32 |
| kronus_ | only the wireless link is active (eth1) | 15:32 |
| soren | kronus_: No. | 15:32 |
| kronus_ | ..oh | 15:32 |
| kronus_ | well, only the wireless link is SUPPOSED to be active | 15:33 |
| kronus_ | which routes should I try to get rid of? | 15:33 |
| soren | kronus_: You should disable the wired network altogether. | 15:34 |
| soren | kronus_: ifdown eth0 (if eth0 is the wired) | 15:34 |
| kronus_ | ifdown eth0? | 15:34 |
| kronus_ | ok, trying | 15:34 |
| soren | if eth0 is the wired network. | 15:34 |
| kronus_ | it is | 15:34 |
| kronus_ | and... it works | 15:34 |
| kronus_ | thanks | 15:34 |
| soren | Yay. | 15:34 |
| soren | You might want to remove "auto eth0" from /etc/network/interfaces | 15:35 |
| CarstenQ | Hmm, my roommate just came in with his ubuntu laptop and has no problems to ssh to the server... | 15:35 |
| rodpod | whats the difference between auto eth0 and the allow-hotplug eth0 | 15:35 |
| kronus_ | soren - this server is an old laptop I have, and sometimes I have it on the wired net | 15:36 |
| kronus_ | wouldn't removing 'auto eth0' then stop any automatic network switching? | 15:37 |
| soren | rodpod: It's in the interfaces(5) man page. | 15:37 |
| soren | kronus_: It clearly was causing you more trouble than it was fixing? | 15:38 |
| kronus_ | ok, what the hell | 15:38 |
| rodpod | damn, i got man page'd | 15:38 |
| kronus_ | there's a new route | 15:38 |
| rodpod | lol | 15:38 |
| kronus_ | and it doesn't work again :/ | 15:38 |
| CarstenQ | soren: /var/log/auth.log shows nothing when I try to log in, though when in verbose mode ssh says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48547/ | 15:38 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Ah.. It's your client that's doing it wrong. | 15:39 |
| soren | CarstenQ: Keyboard-interactive is disabled by default. | 15:39 |
| soren | CarstenQ: In favour of password. | 15:39 |
| CarstenQ | soren: Ah ok... so I guess it's fixable and the answer is in the man page ;) | 15:39 |
| kronus_ | soren - something automatically added a route for eth0 just now, even though eth0 is down | 15:40 |
| soren | kronus_: Then eth0 is not down. | 15:40 |
| soren | kronus_: ...anymore. | 15:40 |
| kronus_ | ifdown: interface eth0 not configured | 15:41 |
| kronus_ | bringing it up and back down removed the extra route | 15:41 |
| soren | You probably have a dhclient running.. | 15:41 |
| soren | That keeps configuring it. | 15:41 |
| MatBoy | does someone know a good opensource bootcd that can image HD's to a networkshare ? | 15:42 |
| maswan | the default ubuntu one should have netcat available, it can do that kind of thing | 15:43 |
| maswan | (just a bit tricky) | 15:43 |
| MatBoy | ok | 15:48 |
| MatBoy | thanks | 15:48 |
| maswan | something like "nc server 2318 < /dev/hda" and on the server "nc -l -p 2318 > client.hda.imgage" | 15:52 |
| maswan | except with the right syntax etc, that's from mostly memory. :) | 15:52 |
| rodpod | that sounds pretty cool, never thought of using nc to image | 15:55 |
| adelie | Hello. I want to setup an LTSP server, but don't want it to be the DHCP. Is it possible to setup a thin clients boot loader to get the image some way other than the traditional 'network boot'? | 16:53 |
| adelie | err... LDAP.. sorry | 16:54 |
| compbrain | adelie: For what did you mean LDAP? | 17:18 |
| RCOMALTA | hello there | 17:19 |
| RCOMALTA | i am david | 17:19 |
| RCOMALTA | can some help please | 17:19 |
| dantalizing | rcomalta: possibly, fire away | 17:20 |
| limbeaux | i am following the nagios quick start, but it was written for desktop 6.10 server 7 doesn't have the file libgd2-dev, anyone know what its equivalent might be? | 17:23 |
| ivoks | quick start for nagios on all ubuntu version would be: | 17:24 |
| ivoks | sudo apt-get install nagios-text | 17:24 |
| limbeaux | thanks!! | 17:24 |
| RCOMALTA | i am new in ubuntu server | 17:25 |
| RCOMALTA | ubuntu server is gui ??? | 17:25 |
| ivoks | no | 17:25 |
| ivoks | no gui | 17:25 |
| RCOMALTA | can i do it gui ??? | 17:25 |
| ivoks | do what? | 17:26 |
| RCOMALTA | ivoks hi my name david nice to meet you | 17:26 |
| RCOMALTA | ubuntu when we do on box can we dawn load gui for it | 17:27 |
| ivoks | yes | 17:27 |
| ivoks | ubuntu-server is just a part of ubuntu | 17:27 |
| ivoks | you can install kubuntu ubuntu or xubutnu desktop on top of it | 17:27 |
| RCOMALTA | a rely | 17:28 |
| RCOMALTA | that nice | 17:28 |
| RCOMALTA | sory i am ask i am rely new in linux i be 10 years working witn 2003 sever but know we like to do some box with linux we chouse ubuntu | 17:28 |
| RCOMALTA | sory for many qutions | 17:28 |
| RCOMALTA | to make a web server and mail sever there is gui for it | 17:30 |
| ivoks | no | 17:30 |
| RCOMALTA | can be in futer time gui for mail sever and web server | 17:31 |
| ivoks | there are plans to create web based interface for 8.04 | 17:32 |
| RCOMALTA | i see | 17:33 |
| ivoks | installation of web server is easy | 17:33 |
| ivoks | just choose LAMP stack during installation and that's it | 17:33 |
| ivoks | you get mysql+php+apache environment | 17:33 |
| RCOMALTA | yes ok but for mail server smtp and pop 3 is problem | 17:33 |
| ivoks | what's the problem? | 17:34 |
| RCOMALTA | i have here 5 computer runs vista ok | 17:34 |
| RCOMALTA | mail smpt pop 3 | 17:34 |
| RCOMALTA | can be conect with as mail server ubutu | 17:34 |
| ivoks | ok | 17:35 |
| ivoks | then also choose mail server during installation | 17:35 |
| RCOMALTA | i see | 17:35 |
| RCOMALTA | pop 3 smtp | 17:35 |
| ivoks | and imap | 17:35 |
| ivoks | and pop3s and imaps | 17:35 |
| RCOMALTA | ohhh i see | 17:35 |
| RCOMALTA | smtp no | 17:36 |
| ivoks | yes, both smtp and smtps | 17:36 |
| RCOMALTA | ok | 17:36 |
| RCOMALTA | nice | 17:36 |
| RCOMALTA | i will dawnlodit | 17:36 |
| ivoks | once you set it up, you just have to create users... | 17:36 |
| RCOMALTA | ok | 17:37 |
| adelie | compbrain:still there? | 17:47 |
| adelie | compbrain: I figured out what I want to do... just not sure how to do it exactly, but want to setup a boot via http using gpxe. | 17:48 |
| adelie | Oh, and i meant LTSP, not LDAP | 17:48 |
| adelie | I am not sure if I am lost or not (isn't that the worst?). Can "pxe.0" be any bootable image? | 17:58 |
| RCOMALTA | ivoks still there | 18:28 |
| RCOMALTA | adeli | 18:29 |
| RCOMALTA | are you fix up server my ask | 18:29 |
| RCOMALTA | can i do ubutu server on my desctop computer to see how it works | 18:39 |
| RCOMALTA | any one here | 19:05 |
| dantalizing | so, i'm upgrading a server with raid5 from dapper to feisty ... going through the verification process for md .... what do i do if my UIDs do not match between what mkconf tells me and what is in mdadm.conf ? | 20:13 |
| dantalizing | mdrun starts the raid just fine with the existing mdadm.conf | 20:14 |
| RCOMALTA | dantalizing you there | 20:51 |
| dantalizing | yes, but i have to leave... | 21:14 |
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