=== dantaliz1ng is now known as dantalizing === ember_ is now known as ember [00:19] Is there any reason that the ubuntu-jeos-builder script installs stuff like alsa or is that just because it's in main? === joerlend is now known as XiXaQ [02:17] I'm trying to setup chillispot and freeradius and it appears that everything should be working but when I try to login it says login failed. syslog says that the radius request times out. When running radtest on the radius server it does accept my credentials. Do I have to open mysql to accept connections from other hosts? [02:36] Centaur5: is the radius request from a different machine? [02:36] Centaur5: if so, then probably [02:40] mralphabet: Well the wireless client connects to chillispot on the radius server which is forwarded to a hotspotlogin script. I'm probably wrong but I just assumed chillispot controls everything else that goes on and would seem to be coming from localhost to the other daemons. [07:24] moin [07:30] <_ruben> mornin [09:18] <_ruben> hmm .. having a problem with ubuntu server gutsy under vmware: [09:19] <_ruben> * Loading hardware drivers... [09:19] <_ruben> error receiving uevent message: No buffer space available [15:03] anyone know about the new encrypted lvm in gutsy [15:03] particularly how to change the password [15:07] bluefoxicy: I guess you have to add a new key and remove the old one. [15:08] bluefoxicy: cryptsetup(8) is your friend. [15:09] soren: fixed in hardy right? ;) [15:09] GUI tools etc??? [15:09] bluefoxicy: No. [15:09] bah, I can dream :P [15:09] bluefoxicy: You can't fix something that's not broken. [15:10] missing useful feature == broken [15:10] That's hardly useful. [15:10] just lower priority than crashers and holes [15:10] In that case all software is broken. Perpetually so. [15:11] Which renders any efforts towards the opposite useless. [15:11] no [15:11] Yes. [15:11] How's that for an argument. [15:11] ? [15:11] have you ever noticed some software is abandonware and unmaintained? [15:11] Yes. [15:11] Point being? [15:11] and that software eventually gets replaced by something else actively maintained? [15:12] Yes.... [15:12] go on. [15:12] The assessment that all software is perpetually broken is correct [15:12] But the fact is [15:12] you can make the software less broken now, but it becomes more broken when someone else looks at it and goes "it should do XXXX" and 10% of the user base nods its heads [15:13] So bugs don't exist until they're observed? [15:13] so, effectively, untouched software simply decays, as it becomes less and less suited to peoples' needs [15:13] YES :D [15:13] That's not very useful either. [15:14] it doesn't have to be useful, it's just the truth [15:15] We have too different views of what constitutes truth for this conversation to have any point in continuing. [15:15] lol [15:15] it's an observed fact then ;p [15:15] We have too different views of what constitutes facts for this conversation to have any point in continuing. [15:15] pornview was great until a year or two after it stopped getting maintained for example [15:16] so, does windows 3.1, for instance, have more bugs now than in 1993 because its missing features? [15:16] dantalizing: Depends... Noone's using it, so noone's observing said lack of features. [15:16] dantalizing: could you use windows 3.1 on a daily basis to get your work done effectively in 1993 without much trouble besides random hangs? [15:16] bluefoxicy: Is that a rhetorical question? Is this? [15:17] well [15:17] Hi, I'm having a problem with my server's routing table, I think [15:17] point, back when 3.1 came out it landed on a bunch of business desktops. The had e-mail and word and image processing apps and databases and proprietary applications and all kinds of specialized things [15:17] ok, windows 98... i know some of the freegeek chapters are installing windows98 because they have old PCs.. .does windows98 have more bugs now than in 1999? [15:18] kronus_: What's the problem? [15:18] I'd hope not :p [15:18] the problem is that `man route` is not clear on what the routing table actually does [15:18] TODAY, if you go to an insurance company or to a dentist office or anything else and drop 3.1 in, it won't authenticate to the domain, won't run their proprietary apps, and won't run much else [15:18] and I'm having trouble accessing one subnet of my college network from another (wireless -> wired) [15:18] kronus_: Well... It doesn't do much. It's a table :) The kernel does something based on its contents, though :) [15:19] and... I know the problem is an extra route somewhere, because it's been fixed before that way [15:19] but apparently only temporarily [15:19] soren - what does the kernel do with it? [15:19] routes [15:19] Clever, huh? :) [15:19] ok, back to basics :P what is a route? [15:19] a routing table basically says "I have 2 interfaces. Stuff going here goes out this one" [15:20] It takes packets' destination IP, looks it up in the table and sends it to whereever the routing table says it should go. [15:20] ok, I have 5 routes in my table [15:20] and only 2 interfaces [15:20] That's fine. [15:20] Put the output of "route -n" on pastebin. [15:21] ...along with a simple explanation of your network and then tell us the specific problem, you're seeing. [15:21] !pastebin [15:21] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [15:21] that's exactly what I'm doing [15:21] Cool [15:21] Hi o/, I've just installed Ubuntu server 7.10 (Gutsy) with the OpenSSH server (4.6p1), but when trying to ssh from or to my Mac OS X 10.4.11 (ssh 4.5p1) the user or password isn't recognized (keeps asking for password), though it returns no errors. Anyone care to guess the problem? [15:21] CarstenQ: Wrong password? [15:22] +1 [15:22] It's not meant to give you any errors. [15:22] That would give an attacker too much informatino. [15:22] CarstenQ: as a guess, MacOSX is stupid. Next question. [15:22] yeah, guessed that, so i made an extreme simple username + pw [15:22] CarstenQ: Look in /var/log/auth.log [15:22] haha, noticed that [15:22] soren: indeed. I've seen such systems, they were easier to break into (found default users, looked up default passwords ;) [15:22] CarstenQ: It's likely to give you info on why your login was rejected. [15:23] looking for it now [15:23] do you have any DenyUsers or DenyGroups in your sshd_config? [15:24] erm, I can't find that log in /var/log or /private/var/log, 'nother Mac thing? [15:25] Er... Forget the mac. [15:25] not that I know of (didn't change anything from fresh install) [15:25] ...or ask someone else about it. [15:25] Look on the Ubuntu box. [15:25] nope, no denied users or groups [15:26] well, thanks for the help anyway :) [15:26] CarstenQ: We can help you with the failing to login on Ubuntu. [15:27] CarstenQ: The other way? Not so much. [15:27] How to properly enable site to work with mod_perl? [15:27] in Apache [15:27] Google is full of suggestions, but nothing concrete [15:27] yeah, shame I don't have an ubuntu box any more to test it with [15:28] CarstenQ: Eh? [15:28] CarstenQ: 16:21:42 < ~CarstenQ> Hi o/, I've just installed Ubuntu server 7.10 (Gutsy) with the OpenSSH server (4.6p1), [15:28] you mean I should try to ssh from the server to itself? is that possible? [15:29] * CarstenQ starts trying [15:29] CarstenQ: From your mac to ubuntu. [15:29] CarstenQ: Or from the server to the server is fine, too. [15:30] CarstenQ i think the point is you need to check the /var/log/auth.log on the ubuntu machine that you cannot ssh to, not your mac [15:30] ah, ok, misunderstood that [15:30] PecisDarbs: Noone is is likely to give you more exact and concrete info than google... It's pointless. People have spent a lot of time writing the stuff you found from google, and now you want us to write all the same stuff again. [15:30] soren - http://rafb.net/p/OoALbZ20.html [15:30] kronus_: That's not the output of "route -n" [15:31] >__> yeah, that's route -v [15:31] force of habit, one sec [15:31] http://rafb.net/p/us9ZgB76.html [15:32] kronus_: The computer is on both networks. [15:32] soren: found the log, will type in pastebox [15:32] only the wireless link is active (eth1) [15:32] kronus_: No. [15:32] ..oh [15:33] well, only the wireless link is SUPPOSED to be active [15:33] which routes should I try to get rid of? [15:34] kronus_: You should disable the wired network altogether. [15:34] kronus_: ifdown eth0 (if eth0 is the wired) [15:34] ifdown eth0? [15:34] ok, trying [15:34] if eth0 is the wired network. [15:34] it is [15:34] and... it works [15:34] thanks [15:34] Yay. [15:35] You might want to remove "auto eth0" from /etc/network/interfaces [15:35] Hmm, my roommate just came in with his ubuntu laptop and has no problems to ssh to the server... [15:35] whats the difference between auto eth0 and the allow-hotplug eth0 [15:36] soren - this server is an old laptop I have, and sometimes I have it on the wired net [15:37] wouldn't removing 'auto eth0' then stop any automatic network switching? [15:37] rodpod: It's in the interfaces(5) man page. [15:38] kronus_: It clearly was causing you more trouble than it was fixing? [15:38] ok, what the hell [15:38] damn, i got man page'd [15:38] there's a new route [15:38] lol [15:38] and it doesn't work again :/ [15:38] soren: /var/log/auth.log shows nothing when I try to log in, though when in verbose mode ssh says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48547/ [15:39] CarstenQ: Ah.. It's your client that's doing it wrong. [15:39] CarstenQ: Keyboard-interactive is disabled by default. [15:39] CarstenQ: In favour of password. [15:39] soren: Ah ok... so I guess it's fixable and the answer is in the man page ;) [15:40] soren - something automatically added a route for eth0 just now, even though eth0 is down [15:40] kronus_: Then eth0 is not down. [15:40] kronus_: ...anymore. [15:41] ifdown: interface eth0 not configured [15:41] bringing it up and back down removed the extra route [15:41] You probably have a dhclient running.. [15:41] That keeps configuring it. [15:42] does someone know a good opensource bootcd that can image HD's to a networkshare ? [15:43] the default ubuntu one should have netcat available, it can do that kind of thing [15:43] (just a bit tricky) [15:48] ok [15:48] thanks [15:52] something like "nc server 2318 < /dev/hda" and on the server "nc -l -p 2318 > client.hda.imgage" [15:52] except with the right syntax etc, that's from mostly memory. :) [15:55] that sounds pretty cool, never thought of using nc to image [16:53] Hello. I want to setup an LTSP server, but don't want it to be the DHCP. Is it possible to setup a thin clients boot loader to get the image some way other than the traditional 'network boot'? [16:54] err... LDAP.. sorry [17:18] adelie: For what did you mean LDAP? [17:19] hello there [17:19] i am david [17:19] can some help please [17:20] rcomalta: possibly, fire away [17:23] i am following the nagios quick start, but it was written for desktop 6.10 server 7 doesn't have the file libgd2-dev, anyone know what its equivalent might be? [17:24] quick start for nagios on all ubuntu version would be: [17:24] sudo apt-get install nagios-text [17:24] thanks!! [17:25] i am new in ubuntu server [17:25] ubuntu server is gui ??? [17:25] no [17:25] no gui [17:25] can i do it gui ??? [17:26] do what? [17:26] ivoks hi my name david nice to meet you [17:27] ubuntu when we do on box can we dawn load gui for it [17:27] yes [17:27] ubuntu-server is just a part of ubuntu [17:27] you can install kubuntu ubuntu or xubutnu desktop on top of it [17:28] a rely [17:28] that nice [17:28] sory i am ask i am rely new in linux i be 10 years working witn 2003 sever but know we like to do some box with linux we chouse ubuntu [17:28] sory for many qutions [17:30] to make a web server and mail sever there is gui for it [17:30] no [17:31] can be in futer time gui for mail sever and web server [17:32] there are plans to create web based interface for 8.04 [17:33] i see [17:33] installation of web server is easy [17:33] just choose LAMP stack during installation and that's it [17:33] you get mysql+php+apache environment [17:33] yes ok but for mail server smtp and pop 3 is problem [17:34] what's the problem? [17:34] i have here 5 computer runs vista ok [17:34] mail smpt pop 3 [17:34] can be conect with as mail server ubutu [17:35] ok [17:35] then also choose mail server during installation [17:35] i see [17:35] pop 3 smtp [17:35] and imap [17:35] and pop3s and imaps [17:35] ohhh i see [17:36] smtp no [17:36] yes, both smtp and smtps [17:36] ok [17:36] nice [17:36] i will dawnlodit [17:36] once you set it up, you just have to create users... [17:37] ok [17:47] compbrain:still there? [17:48] compbrain: I figured out what I want to do... just not sure how to do it exactly, but want to setup a boot via http using gpxe. [17:48] Oh, and i meant LTSP, not LDAP [17:58] I am not sure if I am lost or not (isn't that the worst?). Can "pxe.0" be any bootable image? [18:28] ivoks still there [18:29] adeli [18:29] are you fix up server my ask [18:39] can i do ubutu server on my desctop computer to see how it works [19:05] any one here [20:13] so, i'm upgrading a server with raid5 from dapper to feisty ... going through the verification process for md .... what do i do if my UIDs do not match between what mkconf tells me and what is in mdadm.conf ? [20:14] mdrun starts the raid just fine with the existing mdadm.conf [20:51] dantalizing you there [21:14] yes, but i have to leave... === joerlend_ is now known as XiXaQ