=== XwarlokX83 is now known as XwarlokX82 [01:01] Hey my wireless usb adaptor doesn't support WEP or WAP with linux. I configured the router to only allow my mac address, and I wrote a script that checks constantly for new ip address's connected to the network. Am I somewhat safe? Can someone still packet sniff me without connecting to the network? I would imagine it's possible, but I'm not able to with any of my sniffers. [01:02] is reiserfs a joke [01:13] reiserfs? [01:51] NullName: just make sure your important stuff is ssl encrypted [01:51] * bur[n]er is probably getting sniffed as he writes this [01:51] * bur[n]er likes to share with the world though [02:00] :) === Catoptromancy` is now known as Catoptromancy === bur[n]er_ is now known as burner [04:42] hello :) what are the min specs for xubuntu? [04:45] nvm [05:01] woo xubuntu installing ^6 [05:01] *^^ [05:03] rad i hope you enjoy it [05:04] slow instlal is slow [05:04] *install [05:04] spend the last 3hours trying to reinstall XP(didnt work) then ubuntu(didnt work) so im on this and its working i think [05:08] cool [05:08] i hope it works [05:09] what appened with ubuntu [05:10] it was just really really slow [05:10] and now this is stuck at 15% for the past 10 mins lol [05:11] with ubuntu it wouldnt even load the install thing [05:23] dang did you do an md5 check on the install disk [05:26] no [05:26] but it had no problem on my pc [05:26] laptop is kinda old [05:27] 1.3ghz 256mbram [05:27] not great for ubuntu [05:28] Hello? Is this where to deal with Server and Client based Ubuntu operations? [05:30] xubuntu just gets to %15 and freezes [05:32] I have an issue with Ubuntu locking up when it can't find a Domain Controller. [05:37] try the ubuntu channel not xubuntu [05:39] screw it back to windows for me [05:39] :P [05:42] Hello. [06:43] hello [06:45] hello [06:46] i have a computer running xubuntu and for most apps, the cpu % is always at 100 [06:46] does that mean i have to recompile the kernel for specifically the cpu arch it has? [06:46] or would that be the case for all the apps that are installed? [06:47] $top [06:47] see whats using all the memory [06:49] memory isn't really the problem [06:49] but if that is what is also causing the cpu to be 100% -- then let me check [06:49] for now, it is sound-juicer that is taking up most of the cpu% and memory, 27m [06:53] What does sound juicer do? [06:53] A few programs really eat CPU [06:56] hey can any one tell me how do i on system bus i mistacally off it from services [06:56] hello please help its urgent [06:56] i'm not able to ne thing [06:59] Turn on system bus? [06:59] I have no idea what you said [06:59] but how [06:59] reboot? [07:00] ok let me try that... [07:00] well I dont know [07:00] reboot should work [07:00] c u in 5 min.. [07:04] it dint work... [07:06] how do i restart my system bus [07:06] how do i restart my system bus????? [07:07] what's with all the ?????? [07:10] i mystically switch off the system bus from services....now i'm not able to c ne thing on my desktop so please ne body can help me.. [07:13] so you can cant open menus? [07:16] now i cant open Application>system>services it says you dont have a permission...can i open it through teminal [07:16] ya [07:17] what is command [07:17] TErminal [07:17] Terminal [07:17] maybe /bin/sh [07:17] ok let me try [07:18] i'm not able to type ne thing in teriminal === ship is now known as elbing [10:11] hi all, I'm a beginer and have a problem [10:12] I reconfigured my video card but I fucked up my keyboard settings [10:12] how can I reconfigure automaticly my keyboard settings? [10:12] pleashelp me [13:15] hi, all, is there Acer laptop user? [13:33] hello [13:34] is there any Acer laptop user? [14:20] anyone know how to change the default login manager? [14:21] i think it is handled by gdm/kdm/xdm [14:21] if you mean the login screen [14:21] oh I had gdm but tried out slim.. hmm think I fixed it but have to restart x server so log out isn't working properly [14:22] slim? [14:22] yeah its pretty good, light on memory usage [14:22] but I wanted a fancy gdm theme [14:22] another ubuntu derivative? [14:22] no another login manager [14:22] ah [14:23] g2g test it out [14:32] !op [14:32] Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak [14:33] ubotu, what is your dilemma? [14:35] !op pici [14:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about op pici - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [14:35] !op [14:35] Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak [14:36] heh [14:36] ubotu, thanks my irc-fu is weak [15:39] hello, i need some help with usb mass storage. i want to prevent ubuntu from 1. suspending/standby for usb drive 2. ejecting/unmounting usb drive. i want to do this because i want use this device to do unattended backups. [15:39] jditto, Ubuntu or Xubuntu? [15:41] vinze: just ubuntu i believe how do i tell the difference? it's running gdm upon boot is that what your referring to? [15:42] jditto, well, Xubuntu says "Xubuntu" on bootup, Ubuntu says "Ubuntu" ;-) [15:42] lol just ubuntu [15:42] jditto, I suppose you consciously installed one of them? [15:42] jditto, but we're in #xubuntu here :) [15:43] yeah, but maybe you guys can help, is there really a difference as far as how usb is handled? [15:43] jditto, I think there's a difference in how you configure them [15:44] well one of the issues i'm having is system automatically unmounts mass storage when i log out this is a pain but i can fix with a cron script to remount drive when i want to use it. but the problem is will the drive be out of suspend when i do this? [15:44] and i don't know where to look to change suspend usb settings [15:45] jditto, well, I wouldn't really know too, why don't you try in #ubuntu? [15:47] well, thanks anyway! i appreciate your help:) === htownandafk_work is now known as codenamekt_work [16:12] Anyone familiar with lockup issues under Ubuntu Gutsy if LDAP is enabled in nsswitch? [16:12] I just found out that was the culprit for yesterday's lockup. [16:12] If the LDAP Server is unreachable, Ubuntu Freezes === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [16:56] can you tell me how do shell providers for eggdrops work. they give installing rights. but their file system is also protected. and they make user confined to one directory only.. how? [16:57] possibly with a chroot enviroment? Either that or some custom software... === seisen is now known as girlsbikeseat === girlsbikeseat is now known as seisen === march is now known as billy_idle [18:08] Hello [18:08] hello [18:08] i'm having problems getting xubuntu to boot on my mac and was wondering if anyone could help. [18:08] smfenn: what sort of mac you using? [18:09] an old g4 "digital audio" mac tower [18:09] ppc? [18:09] yeah [18:10] smfenn: you have the ppc install disc? [18:10] i used the PPC alternative install disk [18:10] how much memory does it have? needs 192mb for live any less use alternate [18:10] 7.10 [18:10] it's got 512 [18:11] i've managed to get it installed ok [18:11] You pressed [c] while booting? [18:11] yeah isn't it ctrl c while booting to load from a cd? [18:11] but once i've gotten it booted, the splash screen appears [18:11] i'm not loading from a CD [18:11] so you've already installed xubuntu or are booting from a flash drive? [18:11] it's installed onto my hard-drive. [18:12] i can get as far as the splashscreen [18:12] ohh you installed it from another computer then put the hard-drive into this one? [18:12] i'm using another computer [18:12] I think he has xubuntu installed but it will not boot [18:12] can you reach recovery mode? by pressing esc [18:12] i've got a g4 ibook, but i've got OS X on this. [18:13] ok lemme try that [18:13] if you get a prompt then everything pretty much okay can figure out what's going on [18:14] ok, i've pressed esc and i've gotten a yaboot prompt [18:14] does the loading bar under the xubuntu splash work? or does it freeze up? if so at about which point does it freeze? [18:14] this time it didn't go to the spash screen. [18:15] yeah your root now on the system [18:15] although before the loading bar does seem to move at all [18:15] not at all? [18:15] and goes into a busybox prompt [18:15] after a minute or two [18:15] umm wtf busybox? no clue there [18:15] well you could disable splash screen go to /boot/grub/menu.lst [18:16] use "nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" [18:16] scroll down where it mentions kernel version and on end it mentions splash remove that word and save the file [18:16] I find nano -w a little nicer for lines that wrap [18:16] thegeeker: so that's what -w means! [18:17] I just use the arrow keys :/ [18:17] nano likes to throw newlines in when i don't want it to, -w fixes that [18:19] hmm... [18:19] smfenn: once you edit that part of the file do command "shutdown -h 0" or "reboot" and see what gets output on boot [18:19] i can't seem to get into nano from the prompt i'm getting at startup. [18:19] might want to remove the "quiet" option in menu.lst too [18:20] smfenn: busybox doesn't have nano I think [18:20] if you press esc when grub does its count down thing you get root prompt though [18:20] I think you get busybox if you get into rescue mode [18:20] it might have vi [18:20] you don't use busybox from rescue mode [18:21] what version ubuntu he on? [18:21] vi? [18:21] 7.10 [18:21] smfenn: the quad moded code testing text editor [18:22] I'm pretty sure I ended up in a very stripped down environment when I used rescue mode [18:22] if anything I'd say rescue mode is equal to or better than normal root prompt [18:22] Whether it was busybox or something like it [18:24] ok, so after my splash freezes are moving one tiny bar, i get this prompt: Busybox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.13-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash) [line break] enter 'help' for list of built in commands. [line break] (initramfs) [18:24] don't understand either why he can't just boot the livecd and have his way with that system >,> [18:24] the live CD won't work in my mac. [18:25] i've tried it before, hence the reason i used the alternative disk. [18:25] is the bios like really old without newer boot options? [18:25] sorry never used a mac before [18:26] i have no idea. [18:26] I have had that happen before [18:26] how did you fix it? [18:26] on x86 computers [18:27] I'm trying to remember what caused it its been a while [18:27] hmm [18:28] any help would be greatly appriecated, I've been wanting to get this machine to run linux for a while. [18:28] if you can't get a root prompt your pretty much out of luck and have to find some bogus commands to save your ass I suggest looking up review of someone with same hardware as you how they installed [18:28] smfenn: what did you say it was a g4? [18:28] yeah [18:29] dude there this tv show I watch with same name [18:29] are you using gutsy [18:30] smfenn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues [18:30] you beat me to it thegeeker [18:30] smfenn: mac osx right? [18:31] smfenn, it looks like the second suggestion on that page is what you want [18:31] seisen, my copy-paste fu is strong [18:31] I also found this but don't know if its relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2887410&postcount=4 [18:32] ok cool, i'll give these a try first [18:32] hopefully i won't have to come back and waste more of your time [18:32] you've all been very helpful, thank you :) [18:32] seisen: he just never reads it before he links :P [18:33] must be it [18:33] the clipboard is attached to my brainstem. i read it as it copies! [18:33] whoa === billy_idle is now known as march [18:45] cu [18:46] march: no... I c u.. O,o [18:49] hmm... [18:49] seems like you smash one problem, another arises. [18:50] what problem popped up now smfenn [18:50] smfenn, You have now learned a Universal Truth about Life [18:50] so true [18:50] welcome to level++ [18:51] i'm now getting an xserver error that reads like this /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer: line47: [: too many arguments Warning: could not retrieve EDID becasue get-edid is not installed. [18:51] and no that's not the level with island of bikini clad women its more hard than 4th level of super mario bros :( [18:51] smfenn: umm apt-get install get-edid? [18:52] haha. [18:52] i was about to say that. [18:52] although after going OK i can't get my prompt back. [18:57] maybe those directions in the link to get x working on an imac 3g might work [18:57] its worth a try just backup your xorg.conf file before you change it [18:57] aye, but it loads into the error [18:57] and when i get ok [18:58] i don't get my prompt [18:58] so i can type in commands. [18:59] ok [18:59] sorry, got it back :S [19:00] although how do i make a backup? is it just a case of saving the xorg file under a different name? [19:01] yep [19:01] do mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.gerrosaiddothis and there you go [19:01] its in /etc/X11/ [19:02] if you do a generic rename most likely some bot app will do same [19:05] !ln [19:05] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [19:06] magic_ninja: working with symbolic links? just remember rm -f to delete them and ln -s /location /otherlocation to link them about all I know of them [19:06] Knightlust: yo [19:07] hi gerro! [19:07] gerro: so its ln -s /directory /directory to point to? === thyrax_afk is now known as thyrax [19:09] gerro: its more of a workaround installing a game from isos because they are faster [19:10] magic_ninja: try gmount them [19:10] and brasero makes images of media too, that's how I play dvds on this box without a dvd drive [19:10] won't work its a multi disk game and i get device busy error [19:11] ohh [19:11] I had that happen before with ut2004 [19:11] so i'm thinking if i use a symlink and point it to different drives throughout the install [19:11] copy the installer off the disc to a local directory then run it [19:11] that way you can unmount the disc and not have to worry about it not finding the rest of the script [19:14] ok so either the suggestions for the g3 problem worked [19:15] and according to apt-get there isn't a package called get-edid [19:15] neither* [19:20] maybe read-edid is what it wants [19:20] and a pony ^^ [19:20] mmm, pony [19:21] * thegeeker drools [19:21] pretty dry to eat that though most likely.. [19:23] magic_ninja: did that solve your problem? [19:24] gerro: that didn't work, so just copy the install.exe to a disk and then do the install from that [19:27] umm yeah [19:27] but its a .exe? [19:28] might have to try that sym link thing you were thinking of :( [19:28] you running it on wine? maybe someone got a few tips on #winehq I've never had that problem before though [19:32] thegeeker: it doesn't seem to recognize read-edid either. [19:33] E: couldn't find package read-edid [19:33] that was the only edid package i saw [19:33] is it gdm or x server? if so why not try xgl or slim/kdm/xdm? [19:33] I'm sorry just don't understand the problem [19:39] greetings [19:39] it looks like an xserver problem. [19:40] Hey PsynoKhi0 [19:40] i ran xstart and got a different error about invalid framebuffers, i'm starting to get kinda confused by the whole thing. [19:41] smfenn: so disable frame buffering? [19:41] I have a fewissues with Xubuntu 7.10 I might need assistance with [19:42] PsynoKhi0, ask away :) [19:42] alright, thanks! [19:42] * gerro casts his assistance spell on PsynoKhiO [19:43] not sure they're specific toXubuntu but that's what I'm running on that rig so... First is that I have a corrupt file I just can't get rid of [19:43] +40 cure :D ... *cough* I mean umm what you need help with? [19:43] PsynoKhiO: open up terminal sudo su enter password cd to where that file is and rm it [19:43] xubuntu users are weird me included [19:44] I've tried rm, cp, chmod, chown, fsck, bootin on alternate/live CDs [19:44] as root right? [19:44] yes [19:44] what about rm -Rf? [19:44] ah that's a new one, let me check [19:45] seisen, don't get me started ;-) [19:45] delete recursibly and focibly even if its intangible file [19:45] why is tha vinze? [19:46] seisen, because I'm weird too :P [19:47] gerro: nopers, getting the "Operation Not Permitted" message as always [19:48] sudo su [19:48] have to do it as root [19:48] what file are you trying to delete? [19:49] you mean "sudo rm" isn't enough? [19:50] thegeeker: -rw-r--r-- 1 2063532032 3721265152 0 Apr 14 2007 xfce4-clipman-plugin.mo [19:50] that's the culprit's ls -l output [19:51] gerro: still no-go [19:52] where is this file like on a tape drive or something? [19:52] under system > users there is odd mention of some privileges held back for basic ubuntu accounts [19:52] might want to check there [19:53] Isn't it a read-only filesystem or something? (/me not an expert) [19:53] yeah could be that might have to remount it with different permissions [19:54] PsynoKhi0: is it on the same disk as the operating system? [19:54] gerro: yup, it's on the root partition [19:55] did you do one of those crazy custom partitions so complex I need a pie chart to view? [19:55] cause I got no clue then :/ [19:56] PsynoKhi0: have you remounted the disk at all? perhaps its an anomoly/glitch of some sort.. [19:57] yes I have remounted the disk [19:57] I suspect this glitch happened when the 7.04 -> 7.10 upgrade borked [19:58] maybe find out what that file does? I don't know exactly myself [19:58] it's part of the clip manager, xfce tools [19:58] or xfce goodies, something like that [19:59] resize the disk and juggle your kept files to do a new reinstall or backup that's what I do [19:59] in its current state, that prevents me from using other GUI languages, not a biggie really, still darn annoying [20:00] what languages do you use? [20:00] well, to be precies, to have the clipboard manager running under another language (language pack fails to isnatll) [20:01] as you can see I use Typo as my main language :D === mez is now known as Mez [20:03] try like reinstalling that aspect of the system then or copying over files from the 7.10 cd maybe [20:03] ermm could I access the files w/o mounting the harddrive? [20:03] sounds swappy but might work [20:03] yeah you have to mount it to access stuff [20:03] otherwise system is doing the mounting which is same thing [20:03] gerro: tried reinstalling too, the package won't overwrite the file [20:03] do a complete uninstall then reinstall? [20:04] of the package or xubuntu? [20:04] the package [20:04] or xubuntu which ever [20:04] already tried [20:04] well nnot of xubuntu [20:04] PsynoKhi0, reformat the partition [20:05] oh well, case archived in the "screw it" folder I guess [20:05] well if you want to backup some stuff I recommend that gparted live cd its pretty neat. [20:05] kind of sleepy though see you peeps later alright [20:05] bye [20:05] thankks for the help [20:06] yay almost managed [20:06] anyway; quirk nr 2, any taker? USB key won't hotplug [20:07] you get nothing at all? [20:08] so far I've managed to make it appear under the hal-device-manager with a modprobe trick, and then use mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb so that usbviewer recognizes it [20:09] other than that it's a brick [20:11] You have already gone beyond my abilities [20:11] if that helps, I've activated the USB ports only recently, after installing/upgrading Xubuntu [20:12] It is interesting, but doesn't help me. I guess they may not be identified correctly because they were not present at intall? [20:12] But that is just guessing out of my ass [20:13] thegeeker: no way, I've merely copied/pasted stuff found on several forum threads and spitting the command lines to try and look knowledgeable (and cool) [20:14] I mean, the deveice manager does see the USB ports, it doesn't update by itself when I plug the stick [20:14] My solution would be to save /home somewhere and reinstall [20:15] It may even be a problem similar to your corrupt file [20:15] my /home folder is on a separate partition [20:15] Some other corrupt file dealing with USB stuff that you haven;t noticed [20:16] 'Then it will only take an hour or so to reinstall. You will waste less time reinstalling than you will trying to figure out what is wrong. If it is still broken after reinstall then go looking for answers. That is what I would do. [20:16] well I've run a FSlint search on my disk and nothing else but the clipman-plugin.mo thingy shows up [20:21] I see [20:21] Oh well, thanks for your time [20:21] Later! === vinze is now known as vinze|brb === vinze|brb is now known as vinze [23:22] TheSheep, ping