[01:33] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:44] <Tm_T> bug 2
[01:45] <CheGuevara> hmm ?
[01:46] <Tm_T> CheGuevara: just messing ;)
[01:46] <CheGuevara> :)
[01:49] <nixternal> I want to change the status of Bug #1 so bad to "Invalid" :p
[01:53] <CheGuevara> Fixed would be better :P
[02:26] <yuriy> <3 amarok
[02:27]  * nixternal too
[02:28] <nixternal> man, this Java project is turning out a tad bit easier than once expected
[02:28]  * nixternal feels good that it is almost over with
[02:28] <Tm_T> meh
[02:28]  * nixternal needs to get his LP karma lovin' goin again
[02:28] <nixternal> I feel another 100+ bug night coming on...hows that sound Hobbsee? :)
[02:28]  * Tm_T <3 KDE
[02:28] <Tm_T> nixternal: look at my karma ;)
[02:29]  * nixternal <3 KDE && <3 Kubuntu && <3 all of you
[02:29] <Tm_T> just if you could get karma from IRC...
[02:29] <nixternal> hahah Tm_T
[02:29] <nixternal> gahahahaha
[02:29] <nixternal> or better yet, if you could get some packaging karma :)
[02:29] <Tm_T> :)
[02:29] <Tm_T> 0429.49 <@insanity> karma for Tm_T: -501
[02:29] <Tm_T> see?
[02:29] <nixternal> or if you could get "long pointy stick blocks" karma
[02:30] <Tm_T> IRC karma
[02:30] <nixternal> it is negative though
[02:30] <nixternal> that can't be good
[02:30] <Tm_T> why not!
[02:30] <nixternal> the higher the better!
[02:30] <nixternal> karma isn't like golf
[02:30] <Tm_T> nixternal: just stand on your hands or some
[02:31] <nixternal> my arms aren't that long
[02:31] <Hobbsee> nixternal: sounds great!
[02:32] <nixternal> jcastro: since you are made of gold, I heard you are buying all of the drinks and food at penguicon...and for the hotel rooms as well...all I need now is the itenerary :p
[02:52] <wolfger> woot, Jorge!
[02:52] <wolfger> :-D
[02:52] <Tm_T> who is Jorge?
[02:53] <wolfger> Jcastro == Jorge Castro
[02:53] <Tm_T> and?
[02:53] <Tm_T> :(
[02:53] <vorian> wolfer is either a gnome fan or from Michigan :P
[02:53]  * vorian hides
[02:53] <wolfger> I was reading nixternal's declaration that Jcastro was buying the drinks at Penguicon
[02:53] <nixternal> hahahaha
[02:54] <Tm_T> meh
[02:54] <wolfger> Gnome == ick
[02:54]  * wolfger is from Michigan
[02:54]  * nixternal was born in Michigan!
[02:54] <vorian> w00t
[02:54] <nixternal> all my family is in Michigan
[02:54]  * Tm_T drinks water
[02:54] <vorian> sorry your football sucked this year
[02:54] <wolfger> lol
[02:54] <nixternal> that's why I love blue!
[02:54] <vorian> better luck next year :D
[02:54] <wolfger> we had a good 8 games
[02:54] <vorian> LOL
[02:54] <wolfger> 6-2, and then we called it a season
[02:54] <vorian> but.....
[02:54] <nixternal> heh, Ohio lost to Illinois, enough said
[02:54] <vorian> hmmm
[02:55] <wolfger> or were you talking college?
[02:55] <vorian> Oh, um, I forgot... who's #1 atm?
[02:55] <Tm_T> vorian: me
[02:55] <wolfger> I went to MI Tech... no football team to speak of, so I don't care about college ball.
[02:55] <vorian> ^5 Tm_T
[02:55] <vorian> :)
[02:55] <nixternal> vorian: it doesn't last...that is the history of Ohio
[02:55] <nixternal> plus, who roots for a hairy nut anyways?
[02:56] <wolfger> heh
[02:56] <vorian> they are not hairy
[02:57] <vorian> they are smooth and silky
[02:57] <nixternal> nice try
[02:57] <vorian> :)
[02:57] <vorian> Penguicon, that will be a h00t
[02:58] <nixternal> jcastro: you need to come to Flourish the week before Penguicon here in Chicago
[03:00] <Jmanfoo> howdy folks
[03:00] <vorian> nixternal, you need to come to LinuxFest
[03:01] <vorian> wanna give a presentation?
[03:01] <nixternal> depends on how much money you all pay me :p
[03:01] <vorian> lol
[03:01] <nixternal> when is LinuxFest?
[03:01] <vorian> um
[03:01] <vorian> October 1*th
[03:02] <nixternal> oh jeesh, I still have some time to prepare my speach
[03:02] <nixternal> speech too
[03:02] <vorian> they pay real well
[03:02] <nixternal> put me down for some Kubuntu and KDE talkin'!
[03:02] <vorian> I got a total of -$65 for giving my presentation
[03:03] <vorian> w00t
[03:03] <Jmanfoo> KDE uber alles!
[03:03] <nixternal> lol, negative baby
[03:03] <vorian> :)
[03:03] <vorian> it's for a good cause
[03:03] <vorian> :)
[03:03]  * vorian needs to stop smiling
[03:04] <nixternal> I need to eat
[03:04] <nixternal> I keep procrastinating
[03:04] <nixternal> back in a bit
[03:09] <Jmanfoo> anyone here on the ubuntu-docs project?
[06:28] <hads> I take it there's no kdepim-kde4 -dbg package?
[06:30] <hads> I'm getting a kmail (KDE4) crash and trying to figure out why.
[07:15] <hads> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48631/ is the console output from the crashes, the first whilst syncing the dimap account initially and the second when trying to start kmail up again.
[07:44]  * Tm_T slaps Eldaria_away 
[08:40] <ardchoille> Am I seeing this error correctly? http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[08:41] <ardchoille> Maybe it has moved since I bookmarked it: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/index.php
[09:49] <mikkael> ive got a nasty problem on hardy but im not sure if it's ok to ask for help in this channel..
[09:52] <ardchoille> mikkael: Did you not hear when I recommended you ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:53] <mikkael> ok, thought this one is for ubuntu, not kubuntu
[09:54] <ardchoille> #ubuntu+1 is for the devel release (ubuntu/kubuntu)
[09:56] <mikkael> ardchoille: thanks
[09:56] <ardchoille> yw
[10:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do we have the videodvd:/ kioslave in gutsy ?
[10:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: because I cant really find it
[10:04] <Riddell> _StefanS_: not that I know of
[10:05] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hmm its a really nice feature since you can copy encrypted dvd's directly as files without using k3b
[10:05] <_StefanS_> Riddell: trueg just remembered that it was there somewhere when I asked him for some advice on how to make the process easier
[10:09] <iRon> Riddell: Hi! Have you checked my patch?
[10:10] <Riddell> iRon: no, didn't see they were available
[10:10] <iRon> Bug #177036
[10:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177036 in kdebase "unable to mount hard disks which are not already mounted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177036
[10:19] <Riddell> iRon: looks great, let me build it and see it in action
[10:19] <iRon> Sure
[10:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: it seems like the kio_videdvd.so is missing in /usr/lib/kde3, and has been that since 7.04.. I will see if I can make a patch for hardy
[10:20] <Riddell> _StefanS_: it may well need a build depend that we can't give it
[10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: cant we make a weak link or something then ? it can be used to access regular unencrypted dvd's aswell
[10:21] <Riddell> I'd expect mpeg to be the problem
[10:22] <Riddell> but I'm guessing, take a look at see what you find
[10:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: anyways, I will see if I can make it work.
[10:22] <_StefanS_> yup
[10:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hmm trueg says the videodvd kioslave just reads libdvdread when its used, so we wouldn't have to include it as a dependency
[11:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I fixed that kio_videodvd.. the files was just missing from the libk3b2 install script, they were already compiled and everything
[11:24] <Riddell> _StefanS_: do they add any dependencies
[11:24] <Riddell> ?
[11:25] <_StefanS_> Riddell: nope
[11:25] <_StefanS_> Riddell: actually I think we should add a similar option like "Rip this DVD with k3b", and just maybe call it "Rip this DVD with konqueror" or something
[11:26] <Riddell> _StefanS_: add to what?
[11:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: to the dialog that appears when you insert a dvd
[11:26] <_StefanS_> just an idea anyways..
[11:26] <_StefanS_> prime thing is that kio_videodvd working
[11:27] <Riddell> _StefanS_: that would be duplicate functionality
[11:28] <_StefanS_> Riddell: not really since k3b cant rip to VIDEO_TS directly if the DVD is encrypted.
[11:28] <_StefanS_> Riddell: this is what can be achieved with the kio slave
[11:28] <Riddell> why can't it?
[11:29] <_StefanS_> Riddell: it makes an iso directly
[11:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: no option for regular files in one go
[11:31] <Riddell> hrm, that seems a strange behaviour
[11:32] <_StefanS_> creating iso's directly?
[11:32] <_StefanS_> or what do you mean
[11:36] <Riddell> _StefanS_: well not being able to just rip the video to normal files
[11:36] <Riddell> that's a large use case
[11:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I check with trueg and it was true that k3b in itself cant do it, and it would take some time to implement it directly in there, so kio it is, if you want that functionality
[11:38] <Riddell> _StefanS_: ok, go ahead and add that if you want then.  give it a descriptive name though like "rip to video on local disk"
[11:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yep, I will figure out a sane sentence for that option
[12:02] <Serega> hi all
[12:03] <Hobbsee> heya
[12:04] <Riddell> hi Serega
[12:34] <Riddell> iRon: I got a compile error when compiling in gutsy
[12:34] <Riddell> /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.8/./kioslave/media/mediamanager/halbackend.cpp:1371: error: request for member 'latin1' in 'udi', which is of non-class type 'const char*'
[12:34] <Riddell> iRon: but I didn't get that error when compiling in hardy
[12:34] <Riddell> which is strange
[12:34] <Riddell> easy enough to fix
[12:35] <_StefanS_> Riddell: any idea why my custom .desktop file keeps opening two konqueror windows when rightclicking servicemenus on a DVDrom ?
[12:35] <_StefanS_> I dont get it
[12:35] <Riddell> _StefanS_: can't say I do
[12:36] <_StefanS_> its like the konqueror opening is an implicit function of rightclicking..
[12:36] <iRon> Riddell: I got sources from hardy as you said..
[12:40] <iRon> Riddell: this is a patch for kdebase sources from hardy repo.. do i need to fix it for gutsy?
[12:47] <Riddell> iRon: no you don't, I just need it for gutsy since that's the only machine I have with a spare disk partition
[12:47] <Riddell> I was just curious why it compiled fine for hardy and not for gutsy, but it's not important
[12:50] <iRon> Riddell: is there any other tasks? i could start researching on them, while you not tested disk mount patch. :)
[12:51] <Riddell> Serega: did you do that script for the video codecs?
[12:52] <Riddell> iRon: there's always bullet proof X
[12:55] <iRon> Riddell: ok. started :)
[12:56] <Serega> Riddell: not yet, now I'm changing ISP so currently offline at home :(
[13:00] <Riddell> ah, the old ADSL switch fight
[13:57] <Hobbsee> i thought someone was fixing adept
[13:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: any plans to fix adept into building, asap?
[14:02] <Riddell> Hobbsee: dunno, how is ept doing?
[14:03] <Riddell> Hobbsee: seems to have worked, feel free to upload adept
[14:05] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it's built
[14:08] <bddebian> heya
[14:37] <Riddell> iRon: that patch works swimmingly
[14:38] <Riddell> iRon: only problem I can see is it needs kdesudo, it would be nice if it also working with just kdesu installed, although I'm not sure the best way to do that
[14:38] <Riddell> when kdesudo gets installed it replaces the kdesu binary
[14:39] <iRon> Riddell: I just need to search for kdesudo, and if it is not found i'll search for kdesu.
[14:39] <iRon> Riddell: it's not a problem..
[14:39] <Riddell> iRon: yeah, that'll do
[14:39] <Riddell> iRon: I think it just needs to not add the --comment bit for kdesu
[14:40] <iRon> `--comment' exists for kdesu too
[14:40] <iRon> Riddell: oh.. no
[14:40] <iRon> kdesu is a link to kdesudo :)
[14:44] <Riddell> iRon: only when kdesudo is installed
[14:44] <iRon> i see
[14:44] <Riddell> iRon: if you're a gnome user who installs konqueror you don't have kdesudo installed but only the old kdesu
[14:45] <Riddell> so checking for kdesudo and falling back to kdesu without --command should work
[14:46] <iRon> ok, i'll fix this
[14:49] <Riddell> --comment rather
[15:04]  * Eldaria_away is back.
[15:05] <Riddell> Eldaria: don't use public away
[15:06] <Eldaria> ok, sorry. :-)
[15:08] <Eldaria> started up IRC for the first time in Many years, was reading an article about kubuntu tutorials day.
[15:08] <Riddell> Eldaria: oh? which article?
[15:09] <Eldaria> Riddel: well it is a Swedish newspaper, but the link is http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.136962
[15:10] <Eldaria> not really an Article more of a notice. :-D
[15:11] <Riddell> nice
[15:11] <Eldaria> I tried to read the transcript of the Python tutorial on my Night shift last night, but either I was too tired or I could not follow it. Will have a look again, it just seemed a bit cluttered. ;-)
[15:14] <Eldaria> Been wanting to learn some programming for linux for some time now, just seemed a bit tough to learn C, so when I read that Python was an easier language, and that I can use it to develope for Kubuntu, I figured I will give it a try, missed the live session though.
[15:15] <Eldaria> I'm a previous Windows person and did some VB and VBA on Windows, but have run Kubuntu since version 5.04 now.
[15:17] <ardchoille> Eldaria: There was a recent class on pykde, check out the link here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[15:19] <Eldaria> yes I saw that one, will have a look at it after breakfast. :-)
[15:20] <Riddell> Eldaria: it would be lovely to have that re-written as a proper tutorial on http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials
[15:22] <Eldaria> :-) well let's see If I understand it first.
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> Riddell: would you prefer the compoz config to be stored via kconfig or the flat-file? flat file is way easier.
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> *compiz
[15:23] <Eldaria> but sure if I can help then why not, I got 4 days of now with no real plans... ;-)
[15:28] <Riddell> nosrednaekim: whatever is easier really
[15:30] <nosrednaekim> Riddell: thats the answer I was looking for :D
[15:31] <Riddell> fdoving: did you manage to try those flash patches?
[17:03] <Riddell> ScottK: for bug 175370 have you tested it with konqueror?
[17:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175370 in gutsy-backports "Please backport flashplugin-nonfree from Hardy to Gutsy (i386)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175370
[17:34] <ScottK> Riddell: I have not.
[18:47] <mhb> hello
[18:49] <mhb> I wish thee merry christmas, however, you're eligible for this greeting if and only if : 1. you're a Kubuntu user, fan or a developer 2. you actually use Kubuntu and like it :o)
[18:54] <ScottK> mhb: Are people like nixternal that love Vista too eligible?
[18:55] <mhb> ScottK: he uses Foresight, Debian ... everything but kubuntu :o) so he can't meet #2 :o)
[18:56]  * ScottK thought he could potentially qualify as a fan.
[18:56]  * ScottK is getting a new Dell laptop today.  So I should get another chance to try it out soon.
[18:56] <ScottK> This is my first new laptop since 2001.
[19:00] <mhb> ScottK: are you going to try out Vista? Or Kubuntu?
[19:03]  * ScottK bought it with XP, but I won't even activate it.
[19:04] <ScottK> I actually need XP to upgrade my kid's dual boot computer from Win2K so an ipod that "Santa" is bringing will work with iTunes.
[19:04] <ScottK> So the license won't go to waste.
[19:07] <mhb> I hate to admit it, but XP was not bad in some aspects.
[19:07] <mhb> the theme was terrible, but graphically it is comparable with the KDE3 6 years later.
[19:08] <mhb> and the file management was pretty user-friendly ( and fast) for 2001.
[19:08] <mhb> I'm not sure we're there yet in 2007 :o)
[19:09] <mhb> that's my 2 cents.
[19:10]  * ScottK never had an XP PC.  W2K was the last one I ever owned.  I don't do product activation.
[19:10] <mhb> true.
[19:10] <mhb> it's not nice.
[19:11] <mhb> I like it, though. The more they try to frustrate the users, the more of them considers an alternative.
[19:11] <ScottK> Sure.  My wife had a virus scare recently and she's convinced to migrate.
[19:15] <blizzzek> i have to work on an win2k at work. some weeks ago i needed to install it and found out what the 2k stands for.
[19:17] <blizzzek> its the approx. no of reboots till it is ready to use
[19:19]  * txwikinger still doesn't use XP
[19:24]  * ScottK hasn't used Windows at all in ~2 years.  I'm starting to forget how to do stuff.
[19:50] <nixternal> mhb: my main box that I use and will always use is Kubuntu, so I clearly meet #2
[19:50] <nixternal> :)
[19:53] <mhb> nixternal: good to hear that :o)
[19:53] <nixternal> I have tried others, and really like others, but there isn't a love for a distro like I have with Kubuntu
[19:54] <nixternal> I mean, you dedicate 2 years of your life to such a great project, hard to really just drop it all and go else where
[19:54] <ardchoille> nixternal: Well said
[19:55] <ardchoille> And Kubuntu is really the first distro I've ever seen where I had no problems. Everything just works.
[19:56] <txwikinger> That is the nice thing.. if something bugs you, you can fix it
[19:56] <txwikinger> no need to go anywhere
[19:57] <ardchoille> And I'm not talking about one computer for casual use.. I have 11 computers which pretty mcuh control everything in my home (electricity, tv/cd/dvd players, music for the house, recipe/wine database ,etc)
[19:58] <nixternal> my only problem righ now is Intel HDA audio and my multimedia keys that control audio...that's it, but I don't use the audio all that much anyways
[22:02] <fdoving> Riddell: yes, flash randomly works on some sites, better than nothing.
[22:09] <txwikinger> Is KDE on hardy broken?
[22:14] <ScottK> Riddell: If you're around, would you please reject the clamav upload that's in NEW.  I screwed up .changes and I think I ought to do it again.
[22:16] <txwikinger> ah got it.. some corrupted files
[22:31] <ScottK> Riddell: Nevermind.
[22:38] <apachelogger> cheguevara: stdin: I have nothing to revu :(
[22:39] <stdin> I'm not feeling great today so I haven't done much, stayed in bed mostly
[22:46] <nixternal> 1 more final to go and it is over with
[22:46] <nixternal> oh man what a relief
[22:50] <apachelogger> stdin: hehe, I should have done that as well :)
[22:55] <TameLion> hi all
[22:57] <Riddell> hi TameLion
[22:57] <TameLion> I was just looking at avant-window-navigator again.. looks like it's improved LOTS since I last tried it.. I'm fairly sure it'd be just the kind of thing Plasma will be able to do with ease. Does anyone know of an AWN-like KDE project?
[22:57] <TameLion> ohh.. hi Riddell :)
[23:05] <TameLion> heh.. I guess it's back to trying some new search strings in google, then...
[23:05] <ardchoille> TameLion: The only thing I know of is kooldock, which is in the repos
[23:05] <nixternal> howdy Riddell, apachelogger, TameLion, mhb, stdin, ScottK...and if you didn't say anything since 16:31 CST and aren't in my active window w/o scrolling up, hi to you too :)
[23:05] <nixternal> bah
[23:05] <stdin> huh?
[23:06] <nixternal> not huh, hi! :)
[23:07] <TameLion> ardchoille: have you seen AWN lately? kooldock doesn't even compare :( I just wondered if there was something already in the pipeline for KDE4.x or whether tweaking AWN for KDE will be the way to go
[23:09] <nixternal> thought you could use avant in kde...swore I have seen someone at the LUG with it
[23:10] <Tm_T> nixternal: but it's not KDE!
[23:10] <nixternal> true.
[23:10] <nixternal> get to work on making a kde version
[23:10] <iRon> Riddell: i've implemented kdesu call for bug #177036
[23:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177036 in kdebase "unable to mount hard disks which are not already mounted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177036
[23:12] <Tm_T> nixternal: nah, because I don't need it :))
[23:12] <ardchoille> TameLion: No, I haven't seen AWN in months. Has it improved that much?
[23:12] <nixternal> me either
[23:12] <nixternal> don't need that bumpy, jumpy icon stuff
[23:12] <nixternal> although, it does look sharp
[23:12] <nixternal> takes up to much space though
[23:12] <ardchoille> I turn the jumpy stuff off, but I like the dock
[23:12] <Tm_T> my KDE looks sharp
[23:12] <stdin> hmm, does kfmclient-kde4 work for anyone? no matter what I put I get "Syntax Error: Not enough arguments"
[23:12] <nixternal> my KDE looks, well like any vanilla kde would look :)
[23:13] <nixternal> plastik ftw!
[23:13] <ardchoille> But, tbh, I have the same thing now with plain old kicker, albeit highly customised.
[23:13] <Tm_T> nixternal: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[23:14] <nixternal> talk about old school
[23:14] <jfinazzi> bonsoir
[23:14] <nixternal> what theme is that?
[23:14] <nixternal> hiya jfinazzi
[23:14] <jfinazzi> hello
[23:14] <jfinazzi> sorry :)
[23:14] <jfinazzi> I was on the kubuntu-fr whannel, difficult to switch :)
[23:15] <mr_jay_01> I'm mr_jay_01 now :)
[23:15] <Tm_T> nixternal: there's none about oldsKool, and it's my own mix of B2(forked), Serenity and own palettes, hacks etc :-P
[23:16] <nixternal> dark, dark, and dark...screams old school to me :)  looks good though
[23:16] <Tm_T> nixternal: easy to my eyes, that's all
[23:16]  * Tm_T is old
[23:17] <mr_jay_01> sorry to disturb you, but I've got one question : I'm trying to test some of my KDE4 localisations in french, but I can't manage to make my .mo been taken into account. I have a KDE4 RC2 on a KUbuntu Gutsy. Could you please help me ?
[23:18] <ardchoille> Using kicker for it instead of AWM or kooldock may not suit everyone, but it works great for me: http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop1sr1.png
[23:18] <TameLion> ardchoille: It has changed SO much.. they've got LOADS of useful applets now; http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Awn_Extras
[23:19] <ardchoille> TameLion: I'll have to re-visit it :)
[23:20] <Tm_T> ardchoille: heh, compare our shots
[23:20] <ardchoille> AWN isn't in the repos?
[23:21] <TameLion> ardchoille: Well worth a look.
[23:21] <TameLion> ohh.. the repo is deb http://apt.schmidtke-hb.de/ gutsy main
[23:21] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[23:21] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Whoa, I like your desktop.. a lot
[23:21] <Tm_T> thanks
[23:22] <Tm_T> so do I ;)
[23:22] <Tm_T> currently
[23:22] <Tm_T> though there's several things I would like to fix later
[23:22] <ardchoille> I lack the imagination to do something that cool I think
[23:23] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Is that kde?
[23:23] <Tm_T> sure it is
[23:23] <mr_jay_01> it looks good
[23:23] <ardchoille> Looks like aBSD wm
[23:23] <ardchoille> Yeah, looks like the desktops you see in movies. I always wanted to do something like that.
[23:24] <Tm_T> movies?
[23:24] <Tm_T> hmm, maybe I have watched too much Jerry Lewis movies...
[23:24] <Tm_T> and Star Wars
[23:24] <iRon> Tm_T was inspired by BeOS :)
[23:24] <Tm_T> iRon: correct, well, not inspired, it's partly from there but only partly
[23:26] <ardchoille> Stuff like that is what prompted me to ask in the forums about a window manager which slides all windows in from random sides of the screen and moves a window to the centre when it gets focused, moving back when it loses focus.
[23:28] <Tm_T> heh
[23:28] <Tm_T> I have added autoplacing of titlebar to have on/off switch
[23:29] <Tm_T> in this B2 windeco
[23:29] <Tm_T> funny feature that is
[23:29] <ardchoille> What does it do?
[23:30] <Tm_T> well if its on, it tries to place titlebars so they all are visible (not behind other windows)
[23:30] <Tm_T> I rather place them myself though
[23:30] <ardchoille> Nice feature
[23:31] <Tm_T> true
[23:31] <Tm_T> funny game too for boring moments
[23:31] <ardchoille> I kinda wish kde had a feature where you could drag any window titlebar to another and those two would become "tabbed" until you dragged one away
[23:31] <Tm_T> have several windows on top of each other and start moving one titlebar
[23:32] <Tm_T> all trying to find their place =)
[23:32] <ardchoille> hahaha
[23:32] <ardchoille> Your window manager is saying "I wish he wouldn't do that"
[23:32] <Tm_T> ardchoille: I sorta have "tabbed" windows, two windows on top of each other, titlebars in line :-P
[23:33] <Tm_T> poor mans emulation
[23:33] <ardchoille> hehe
[23:33] <Tm_T> that's how I do with fullscreen apps
[23:33] <ardchoille> I should try that
[23:38] <iRon> 01:39am.. need to sleep :-(
[23:43] <nixternal> ooh, as soon as oo.o is updated, I can finally update...that is the only thing set to "remove" in all 403820438 updates :)