[00:01] <jembouge> yoyo > view->change background  :p
[00:01] <yoyo> Oh
[00:02] <yoyo> I expected it to be in Configure Konqueror
[00:02]  * yoyo runs away
[00:02] <CheGuevara> ...
[00:05] <martalli> I have a problem with flash not working in firefox or konqueror.  I am using an uptodate verison of gutsy kubuntu with ubuntu-restricted-extras (no automatix)
[00:05] <martalli> I wonder - should I be using ubufox or not in kubuntu?  Would that matter in this case?
[00:06] <martalli> When I try to run flash things, it says flash is not installed, but then discovers it is installed sduring the installation process
[00:06] <CheGuevara> martalli, how did you install it
[00:06] <martalli> through adept
[00:06] <vzduch> !automatix | martalli
[00:06] <ubotu> martalli: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[00:07] <martalli> well, maybe I installed it through apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:07] <vzduch> ah, I misread..
[00:07] <martalli> I agree about automatix.  No automatix (isn't that what I said?)
[00:07] <vzduch> martalli: as I said, my mistake
[00:08] <martalli> I don't think there was any need for automatix after dapper (if there was really any use for it in the first place)
[00:08] <martalli> no problem
[00:08] <vzduch> I used it for my first Feisty install.. for the 2nd I just added the repo because the software available there can at times be useful
[00:09] <vzduch> but it installs all fine just using apt-get
[00:09] <CheGuevara> newest flash (the one in proposed) doesn't work with konq
[00:09] <postg> Pollywog
[00:09] <vzduch> CheGuevara: which version?
[00:09] <j> true
[00:09] <martalli> Hmmm....but I have the same problem in firefox
[00:09] <j> kdmtheme dosent work
[00:10]  * vzduch knows that 9.0.115.0 doesn't work.. offered in the regular Fedora repo
[00:10] <vzduch> so I downgraded to 9.0.48.0, that works fine in Konq
[00:11] <CheGuevara> yeah 9.0.115.0 doesn't work
[00:13] <martalli> Can I downgrade using adept?
[00:13] <martalli> or apt-get?
[00:13] <vzduch> dunno where you get it from in *buntu these days..
[00:13] <j> how to get 9.0.48.0 in konq
[00:13] <vzduch> for Fedora there's a rpm available from Adobe
[00:14] <CheGuevara> how do they do that?
[00:14] <CheGuevara> thats illegal
[00:14] <vzduch> no, it's not
[00:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what's illegal?
[00:15] <vzduch> it's an Adobe repo, not a Fedora repo
[00:15] <CheGuevara> distributing flash
[00:15] <CheGuevara> oh
[00:15] <CheGuevara> never mind :P
[00:15] <vzduch> apart from that it's nowhere to be found in the default install
[00:15] <vzduch> so nothing illegal there
[00:15] <Daisuke_Ido> looks like this mtp issue is a bug
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> and a particularly annoying one, as this is the pc i transfer my music with
[00:16] <f00f> I tried to remove kde4 from my system
[00:16] <f00f> and broke all my kde packages!
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> then you removed the wrong thing.
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i *can* use MSC mode (standard USB drive), but the sansa e260's firmware doesn't do id3 v2.4 tags, and that's how *everything* i have is tagged, so it's all sorted as "unknown artist - unknown album"
[00:20] <f00f> when I try to reinstall them, it keeps referring to packages on the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu source :(
[00:20] <f00f> I just want to get my system back to vanilla 7.10
[00:21] <CheGuevara> f00f, did you remove the repo from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[00:22] <f00f> CheGuevara: yeah
[00:22] <vzduch> proposal: get rid of the KDE4 repo, then 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop'
[00:23] <f00f> kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[00:26] <f00f> ok.. it gives me unmet dependencies now, when I try to remove something!
[00:28] <f00f> great.. now I did whan apt said, and it wants to remove kdm
[00:28] <f00f> I'll just do what apt says, and see where that leads me lol...
[00:29] <f00f> if it goes in the gutter, at least I have my install disk right next to me
[00:30] <vzduch> no need as long as you don't end up w/ an unbootable system.. everything it removes you can reinstall
[00:31] <f00f> I'm just going to remove everything KDE
[00:31] <f00f> and reinstall
[00:32] <angasule> !amarok
[00:32] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[00:33] <f00f> amarok is great.
[00:33] <vzduch> well, not quite yet
[00:33] <angasule> yeah, but for some reason it won't work
[00:33] <angasule> it must have broken in one of the updates
[00:33] <vzduch> define "won't work"
[00:34] <angasule> it will complain about not being able to play all sorts of sound files, as if codecs were missing
[00:34] <f00f> is amarok-xine installed?
[00:34] <Daisuke_Ido> so install the codecs.
[00:34] <angasule> only, they aren't missing, and it complains even about audio CDs
[00:34] <angasule> Daisuke_Ido: "as if", they are not missing
[00:35] <angasule> f00f: yes, it is
[00:35] <angasule> should I attempt a reinstall of amarok-xine or what?
[00:36] <f00f> oh great.. installing kde4 zapped my collection in amarok..  stupid kde4 T_T
[00:37] <f00f> angasule: it'd be worth a try..
[00:38] <f00f> if that dosen't work, make a bug report, like the 5000th time kde4 fails to recognize my soundcard (grrr....)
[00:38] <angasule> why would kde4 have to recognise your soundcard? isn't that alsa's job?
[00:39] <f00f> angasule: kde4 has this sound architecture that wraps around alsa, that is super buggy.
[00:39] <angasule> phonon?
[00:39] <f00f> it keeps failing to recognize that my sound card actually works, whereas non-kde4 apps play just fine.
[00:39] <f00f> and I have an emu10k1 based card which supports hardware mixing through the linux driver, so I know that no other app can grab it.
[00:40] <angasule> "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported."
[00:42] <angasule> funny, .ogg files play just fine
[00:42] <f00f> ahh.. maybe you need xine-ffmpeg or something like that
[00:43] <f00f> odd.. amorok plays mp3s just fine here
[00:43] <jnp3134> anybody know how to reinstall hda-intel sound drivers on kubuntu?
[00:43] <lascar> !alsa
[00:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:44] <angasule> it also won't play an audio CD, which is VERY weird
[00:44] <f00f> !MP3
[00:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:44] <crimsun> jnp3134: depends what you've done.  Normally erasing sound/ and reinstalling linux-image-$(uname -r) suffices
[00:44] <f00f> angasule: yeah that's weird
[00:44] <angasule> I installed ffmpeg, didn't change a thing
[00:44] <f00f> I'd apt-get purge amarok and amarox-xine and start over
[00:46] <postg> whicj command is right? apt-get auto remove
[00:46] <postg> is it?
[00:46] <jnp3134> here's what I did - I had the drivers working for the hda-intel (onboard sound) and I tried to install the drivers for an echo mia sound card (pci).  Now the mia works, but the onboard sound does not
[00:47] <crimsun> jnp3134: the drivers for the mia are included by default...
[00:47] <peterpan_> i cant mount a partition...
[00:47] <peterpan_> any help?
[00:47] <f00f> peterpan_: be more specific, file system of the partition?
[00:47] <peterpan_> f00f fat32
[00:47] <angasule> it didn't help
[00:48] <f00f> have you tried entering media:/ in the run dialog, and clicking on it to mount it?
[00:48] <f00f> sometimes it just works that way
[00:49] <jnp3134> peterpan_: I'm new here, but have you tried going to K Menu>System Settings>>Advanced (Tab)>Disk & Filesystems?
[00:49] <angasule> this blows
[00:49] <angasule> but dinner is ready, so good night
[00:50] <peterpan_> The system reported: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-label/Work does not exist
[00:50] <peterpan_> jnp3134 ^
[00:52] <jnp3134> what is under the "Device" column of the partition you want to mount?
[00:53] <jnp3134> peterpan_: for one of my partitions, it lists something like "/dev/sed1"
[00:53] <peterpan_> jnp3134  its   /dev/sda6
[00:53] <jnp3134> peterpan_: sorry - that's "/dev/sde1"
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> sde?
[00:54] <peterpan_> mine is sdA
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, it should be sda
[00:54] <jnp3134> peterpan_: sda is fine. Is anything listed under the "Mount Point" column?
[00:54] <f00f> there we go.. just had to restart kded
[00:55] <f00f> and wham! everythings back to normal! thank you everyone for helping me through this nightmare!
[00:55] <peterpan_> jnp3134 i tried to mount it previously in /media/sda6Work ....    it was ntfs . i changed it to fat32 . and now its not mounting..
[00:56] <peterpan_> theres nothing there right now
[00:56] <f00f> peterpan_: is the drive ntfs though?
[00:56] <peterpan_> f00f it was.. not any more
[00:56]  * Daisuke_Ido smacks forehead.
[00:57] <peterpan_> should i delete the existed /media/sda6work and remount it again?
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> what's in your fstab, fat32?
[00:57] <f00f> 0_o you reformatted it? I hope you backed everything up......
[00:57] <peterpan_> Daisuke_Ido its still ntfs
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> did you reformat the drive?
[00:57] <peterpan_> f00f no. i used a utility in windows that changes file formate without formating
[00:57] <peterpan_> Daisuke_Ido ^
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> partitionmagic
[00:57] <peterpan_> yup :)
[00:58] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, that's set
[00:58] <jnp3134> peterpan_: you could try mounting it with "Automatic" selected instead of ntfs or fat32
[00:58] <tehm0nk> does partitionmagic have a boot disk util?
[00:58] <peterpan_> k
[00:58] <Daisuke_Ido> fat32 isn't a valid filesystem type though.
[00:58] <Daisuke_Ido> try vfat instead
[00:58] <Daisuke_Ido> (same thing)
[00:58] <peterpan_> it choosed vfat in linux
[00:58] <f00f> yeah, vfat == fat32.. for the most part I think.
[00:58] <peterpan_> one thing. theres a /media/sda6work folder still lying. should i delete it first and then again remount ?
[00:59] <philip> hey
[01:00] <philip> can someone help me. i can't get tomboy notes to work
[01:00] <peterpan_> f00f Daisuke_Ido jnp3134 one thing. theres a /media/sda6work folder still lying. should i delete it first and then again remount ?
[01:01] <tuxwulf_> What can I do about Kubuntu 7.10 not allowing me to change IP on my eth0?
[01:01] <peterpan_> f00f Daisuke_Ido jnp3134         helo
[01:01] <bobesponja> anybody knows how to make tv-out working with i810 driver?
[01:01] <jnp3134> peterpan_: I don't think you should have to delete the /media/sda6work folder, but it wouldn't hurt to do it if it is empty.
[01:03] <peterpan_> its not beeing deleted
[01:04] <peterpan_> f00f Daisuke_Ido jnp3134         what now?
[01:04] <f00f> is it mounting?
[01:06] <jnp3134> peterpan_: try opening the media folder as root (right click on itfrom Dolphin (if you have it) and select Actions>Open as Root).  then you should be able to delete the sda6work folder
[01:06] <Tm_T> vit_____: hi
[01:07] <flaccid> anyone using ftpfs ?
[01:07] <jnp3134> peterpan_: gtg for a few minutes - I will be back soon
[01:14] <peterpan_> The system reported: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-label/Work does not exist
[01:15] <carlos> disculpen, laguien sabe como borrar la ventana desplegable de google
[01:15] <unix_lappy> !es
[01:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:16]  * unix_lappy is dreading reinstalling.
[01:16] <peterpan_> f00f Daisuke_Ido    what now?
[01:21] <anddy> Hola!
[01:26] <jnp3134> anybody have a woking system with 2 sound cards, 1 of which is an echoaudio card, under gutsy?
[01:29] <andersin> jnp3134: I have 2 sound cards, what is the problem?
[01:33] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:36] <Big_Love> im a windows user, what version of kubuntu should i run?
[01:37] <Tm_T> Big_Love: Kubuntu is not "for" Windows but replaces it (if you like) so for that matter, any
[01:38] <Big_Love> ah that, whould use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:38] <Big_Love> *should
[01:38] <Tm_T> I'd say try both
[01:39] <Big_Love> thanks bra
[01:39] <Tm_T> Big_Love: difference is only in interface mostly, but you can have both
[01:39] <Tm_T> so try and use the one suits you best
[01:40] <Big_Love> which one would u recommend for a newbie though
[01:40] <Big_Love> or are they both the same dificulty
[01:40] <Tm_T> the one they find suitable more ;)
[01:40] <Tm_T> they are different
[01:40] <Tm_T> but so are newbies
[01:41] <jnp3134> adersin: I had the first (onboard) sound card working, and I installed the drivers for my 2nd sound card (PCI).  Now only the 2nd sound card works and Kubuntu won't detect the 1st (onboard)
[01:41] <Tm_T> Big_Love: KDE (Kubuntu) has more configurations and so on, so might be too "messy" or not
[01:41] <Aresilek> where does one look for drivers for kubuntu, in particular graphics drivers for a intel 950 gma for a dell 6400 inspiron laptop?
[01:41] <Tm_T> !intel | Aresilek
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Tm_T> mmmgh
[01:42] <Big_Love> Ty
[01:42] <Tm_T> Big_Love: GNOME (Ubuntu) is more "simplified" but might be too "just that" if you don't like its way of work and look
[01:44] <Big_Love> i c
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> Aresilek- the package name is xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:44] <CheGuevara> and if you like to restore files from the recycle bin
[01:44] <CheGuevara> :P
[01:44] <Tm_T> Big_Love: this is how I define it, some other might put it other way
[01:47] <jumpkick> does anyone know a work around for dpkg-reconfigure locales causing kernel panics on AMD64?
[01:47] <Tm_T> jumpkick: is there bug filed in launchpad related to it?
[01:48] <jumpkick> Tm_T: I'm not sure...   I can't seem to search the bugs DB with any effectivess
[01:48] <Tm_T> hmmm
[01:48] <testeraladfa> test
[01:49] <testeraladfa> hello people
[01:49] <jumpkick> I get all kinds of results that don't look like they are related, maybe there's an advanced search form somewhere?
[01:49] <Tm_T> no idea
[01:49] <jumpkick> or maybe I should search against the locales package instead of against ubuntu
[01:49] <Tm_T> heh
[01:49] <Tm_T> that perhaps
[01:55] <testeraladfa> hello i have  a question
[01:55] <testeraladfa> how can i know the server of the channel that i want to go to?
[01:56] <Tm_T> testeraladfa: what you mean exactly?
[01:56] <testeraladfa> Say i want to join #italy, how can i add the server on Konversation here in linux?
[01:57] <Tm_T> testeraladfa: isn't there the serverlist on menu?
[01:57] <Big_Love> does anyone here know any programs for a mac that is good for cracking WEP?
[01:57] <Tm_T> sorry I don't use Konvi so...
[01:57] <LjL> testeraladfa: #italy would be a channel, not a server
[01:57] <Big_Love> cause i just got a new mac
[01:57] <Big_Love> i heard Kismac is good
[01:57] <Big_Love> but are there any other ones?
[01:57] <testeraladfa> yes i know its a channel
[01:57] <Tm_T> Big_Love: you know that any illegal activities aren't for freenode?
[01:57] <LjL> testeraladfa: how do you know the server it's on... well how could we know? :) the same channel could be on many different servers (networks, actually)
[01:57] <testeraladfa> but do join it i have to type in the server
[01:58] <testeraladfa> i don't know i just guess as i am new
[01:58]  * flaccid coughs
[01:58] <LjL> testeraladfa, well how do you know about that channel, to begin with?
[01:58] <testeraladfa> i know about it because i used to go there in windows
[01:58] <testeraladfa> now i am on linux
[01:59] <LjL> testeraladfa: well, you need to go back to windows and find out what network you were connecting to
[01:59] <flaccid> you can add servers by pressing f2 in konv
[01:59] <LjL> there's probably an #italy channel on... just about every IRC network on earth
[01:59] <LjL> except possibly this one
[02:00] <testeraladfa> ok
[02:00] <testeraladfa> look
[02:01] <testeraladfa> it was under Undernet
[02:01] <flaccid> you can google that to get server addresses..
[02:01] <testeraladfa> i also found a channel List here in Konversation
[02:01] <testeraladfa> but it doesn't let me specify the server
[02:01] <flaccid> a channel list != server list
[02:01] <LjL> testeraladfa: then google for "undernet servers", pick a server, and hit F2, "Add", add it as new network
[02:01] <flaccid> as LjL was saying different networks have different channels
[02:01] <testeraladfa> so i want the chanel list of that server
[02:02] <LjL> testeraladfa: uh, no, i don't think
[02:02] <flaccid> once you are connected to a server you can use /list to see current channels on server
[02:02] <LjL> you want the server list of Undernet
[02:02] <testeraladfa> yeah,..
[02:02] <LjL> testeraladfa: http://www.undernet.org/servers.php pick the closest to you
[02:06] <testeraladfa> yeah but how do i get the server name in numbers?
[02:06] <testeraladfa> i mean not just the name of the minor, not the domain name, the actual server
[02:08] <flaccid> i dont think that makes sense sorry testeraladfa
[02:08] <flaccid> do you not have dns ?
[02:09] <CheGuevara> same way as on windows
[02:09] <CheGuevara> nlsookup
[02:10] <flaccid> well no
[02:10] <flaccid> use host or dig
[02:10] <CheGuevara> whats wrong with using nslookup
[02:10] <flaccid> but you can use nslookup
[02:10] <testeraladfa> ok i added a server now
[02:10] <flaccid> hmm i take that back sorry CheGuevara
[02:10] <testeraladfa> lets see if i can see the channels of that server...
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> I think nslookup is deprecated in favor of host/dig
[02:11] <flaccid> yeah thats what i thought
[02:11] <flaccid> but i guess it doesn't matter
[02:11] <flaccid> testeraladfa: once you are connected to the server. do /list
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> I vaguely remember a message about it when using nslookup, but I don't get one now
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> Maybe it wasn't on Ubuntu
[02:12] <testeraladfa> well
[02:12] <testeraladfa> i found the server
[02:12] <testeraladfa> i connected to the server
[02:13] <testeraladfa> but i can#t log in!
[02:15] <testeraladfa> i try to connect to another Undernet server now
[02:16] <testeraladfa> what is the command to connect to a channel so that i don#t have to browse all those channels in the channel list every time?
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> testeraladfa- /join #channel
[02:17] <jac0b> I am triying to setup a samba share to my winxp box. I can see and access the share but its not writable. can anyone tell me how to fix that
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> testeraladfa- Konversation also has a spot where you can put in channels to automatically join when you connect to a network
[02:19] <testeraladfa> yiap !
[02:19] <testeraladfa> :)
[02:19] <testeraladfa> thanks a lot guys i got it to work!
[02:20] <flaccid> nice
[02:21] <testeraladfa> is there a way for someone to remotely connect to my PC now that i am in linux
[02:21] <mrdigital> testeraladfa: i wanna remote connect to a Windows box from linux?
[02:21] <mrdigital> or linux to linux or windows ot linux?
[02:21] <testeraladfa> because before some years on windows someone literaly HACKED into my PC and screw me
[02:22] <jac0b> testeralafa: ultravnc singleclick
[02:22] <jac0b> well for windows to linux
[02:23] <testeraladfa> i don't think you got what i meant
[02:23] <jac0b> linux to windows you gonna need a vnc server on the linux box and a vnc client on the win box
[02:23] <jac0b> you want to remote in right
[02:23] <testeraladfa> is it possible for someone to get my IP and all that stuff and hack me>?
[02:23] <jac0b> sure it is
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> testeraladfa- it depends entirely on what you have running that's listening to incoming connections
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> testeraladfa- you can also use a firewall and/or router to block incoming connections
[02:24] <testeraladfa> yeah but now that i am on linux i am supposed to be safe... isn't it?
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> testeraladfa- not if you do something stupid
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Nothing can stop a user from installing a program that does nasty stuff
[02:25] <testeraladfa> yeah but the 'll probably try to install a windows program
[02:25] <testeraladfa> but it wont work cause i am on linux
[02:26] <testeraladfa> so they can't do anything..
[02:26] <jac0b> how do make a samba share writable
[02:27] <testeraladfa> so am i right
[02:27] <testeraladfa> ?
[02:41] <XceII> deu  go to politics,bye.
[02:44] <sagacious> Hi, anyone around?
[02:44] <maduser> mabe
[02:45] <sagacious> Well, I need someone to help me with a problem I'm having installing programs.
[02:45] <maduser> with what the distro?
[02:46] <sagacious> Gutsy
[02:46] <maduser> ah
[02:46] <Tm_T> sagacious: you should tell more about the problem
[02:46] <maduser> I got the cds and did a clean install
[02:46] <maduser> the distro upgrade did not work for me
[02:46] <crweb> is there a reason Cut & Paste still leaves the file in the original place ?  (Clean install, just updated) ?
[02:46] <sagacious> Trying to clean up the error so it doesn't line spam
[02:46] <Tm_T> !pastebin | sagacious
[02:46] <ubotu> sagacious: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <maduser> !pastbin
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <maduser> !pastebin
[02:47] <Tm_T> maduser: heads up
[02:47] <LjL> didn't you notice that !pastebin thing was just called a moment ago?
[02:47] <maduser> I spelled it wrong
[02:47] <sagacious> Well, this is what it says "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[02:47] <sagacious> It gives me this error for essentially any package.
[02:47] <LjL> it had been called a moment before nonetheless.
[02:47] <Tm_T> maduser: look more up ;)
[02:48] <sagacious> I've made sure that multiverse and unviverse are in the respositories, but for some reason it just keeps saying that for just about anything.
[02:49] <LjL> sagacious, w32codecs is neither in universe or multiverse, and i suppose the packages you're trying to install somehow depend on it
[02:49] <crweb> sagacious: last i remember its not in the repo
[02:49] <sagacious> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecs-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[02:49] <crweb> sagacious: you have to get it from metabuntu if you want to apt get it
[02:49] <sagacious> Was following this guide
[02:49] <unix_infidel> anyone here use mozbackup?
[02:49] <sagacious> In any case, forget about w32codecs
[02:49] <sagacious> It has done this for several packages
[02:49] <crweb> sagacious: like libdvdcss2, which also is not in the repo's
[02:50] <sagacious> libapache2-mod-php5, libdvdcss, and several others I cannot pick off hand.
[02:50] <crweb> sagacious: you have to download it separately
[02:50] <sagacious> Well, what happened to them?
[02:50] <crweb> sagacious: they are illegal to distribute in some countries.  They've never been in the repo
[02:50] <sagacious> Why do I keep finding guides that seem to imply that they are
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> libapache2-mod-php5 has absolutely nothing to do with w32codecs
[02:51] <crweb> sagacious: it doesn't
[02:51] <sagacious> Of course it doesn't
[02:51] <crweb> sagacious: read better :)
[02:51] <sagacious> My problem iswn't with w32codecs
[02:51] <sagacious> I'm having a problem with apt
[02:51] <crweb> sagacious: its right there in the doc, you need to enable metabuntu
[02:51] <crweb> err, medibuntu
[02:52] <sagacious> ...
[02:52] <sagacious> Forget that doc, please
[02:52] <sagacious> I keep getting this for a LOT of stuff other than this.
[02:52] <sagacious> Is wine in the respository?
[02:52] <sagacious> Because it does it for wine as well.
[02:52] <crweb> just saying, if you want those packages you have to enable other things
[02:52] <crweb> sagacious: apt-get install wine  doesn't work?
[02:53] <sagacious> No, it gives me the same error it did with w32codecs, but for wine
[02:53] <crweb> sagacious: did you apt-get update with universe enabled?
[02:53] <sagacious> Yep
[02:54] <crweb> sagacious: run,  apt-cache search wine
[02:55] <sagacious> Yeah, it shows up when I do that, but when I try to install it, it still gives me that error.
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> Exactly what is the error message?
[02:57] <sagacious> "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[02:57] <miguel_> #bios
[02:57] <sagacious> THough you can essentially apply that error to any package.
[02:58] <sagacious> Would there be anything else other than the multi-verse and universe I'd need enabled in my respositories?
[02:58] <crweb> sagacious: then your repo lines are incorrect probably
[02:59] <sagacious> Hold on, I'll pastebin my sources file
[02:59] <crweb> probably simple typo
[03:00] <sagacious> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48618/
[03:00] <Law506> how do you enable compiz?  I tried opening a console and typed in compiz and it did some weird things, but didnt really enable.
[03:01] <crweb> sagacious: pastebin output of apt-get update
[03:01] <NickPresta> Law506, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[03:02] <sagacious> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48619/
[03:02] <Law506> thanks
[03:06] <crweb> sagacious:  now try apt-get -f install  and then apt-get install wine
[03:07] <sagacious> Hmm, all right, seems to be working now.  What happened?
[03:08] <crweb> sagacious: .. you updated the db
[03:08] <sagacious> I was sure that I had already done that, though.
[03:08] <crweb> heh, i dunno. maybe they failed
[03:08] <sagacious> Hmm
[03:08] <sagacious> :/
[03:08] <crweb> maybe forgot. dunno.  it happens
[03:09] <sagacious> Well, it was mighty confusing, that's for sure.
[03:10] <sagacious> Well, seems to be working. libapache2-mod-php5 installed.  Though it doesn't seem to be working yet... At least that's not an issue with apt. :D
[03:10] <somekool> hello, my ubuntu is now trying to start a second X on tty8 and it can't ... any idea why?
[03:14] <jrsims> Anyone know why my screen is blurry?
[03:15] <jrsims> What causes this? It's like I will sign in one time, and everything will be sharp. I restart and fonts and graphics get all fuzzy. This is stupid.
[03:17] <xBudi_S> test
[03:18] <bazhang> fail
[03:18] <flaccid> pass
[03:18] <bazhang> haha
[03:21] <neul> hey you guys
[03:21] <NickPresta> hi, neul
[03:22] <neul> is there a way I can watch wmv and rm videos on kubuntu
[03:22] <ardchoille> !restrictedformats | neul
[03:22] <ubotu> neul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <neul> hi nickpresta
[03:24] <neul> i tried all that but it doesn't work
[03:24] <NickPresta> neul, "doesn't work" doesn't help us. What doesn't work? The installation? You still can't play the files?
[03:25] <neul> yeah sorry that is a vague answer
[03:27] <neul> i used apt-get and obtained a lot of files to support kubuntu but it still won't play
[03:27] <flaccid> what happens
[03:27] <flaccid> what does it say, is there an error, did it eat too much hungry jacks?
[03:28] <neul> haha
[03:28] <neul> "can't play play file, codecs missing"
[03:29] <flaccid> and which codec package do you have installed and which file format is this with?
[03:29] <neul> well I'm running feisty fawn
[03:29] <flaccid> also which version/release of kubuntu are you using
[03:30] <flaccid> have you installed the codecs as per what ubotu said?
[03:30] <ardchoille> neul: Which type of file doesn't work?
[03:30] <neul> wmv, rmv
[03:31] <bazhang> real player for rmvb neul
[03:31] <flaccid> did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:31] <neul> yeah
[03:31] <flaccid> or kubuntu-restirected-extras ?
[03:31] <neul> tons of files
[03:31] <flaccid> which player are you trying it in?
[03:32] <neul> kaffeine
[03:32] <flaccid> ok, so no wmv or rmv plays?
[03:32] <neul> yep that's right
[03:32] <flaccid> you might need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:33] <flaccid> Some external codecs may be needed in order to play certain proprietary formats such as Apple Quicktime or RealVideo. These external codecs are available in the third-party repository of Medibuntu.
[03:33] <bazhang> vlc may play wmv, depending on the version
[03:33] <flaccid> kaffeine should play a normal wmv
[03:33] <bazhang> define normal
[03:34] <flaccid> not one that uses an extra 3rd party codec or container
[03:34] <neul> these are videos on a pay channel :)
[03:34] <arrrghhh> so i get a really strange error from the system menu - "malformed url media:/."
[03:34] <bazhang> windows media player cannot play some wmv's
[03:34] <flaccid> arrrghhh: hmm several possibles on that. you can google it
[03:35] <arrrghhh> flaccid: i have... and the only real solution i found was renaming "/home/<username>/.kde" to "/home/<username>/.kde_bad" - and they referred to that as a 'file' that it's recreating... yea i don't like that solution
[03:36] <arrrghhh> found a lot of bugs for it listed in suse
[03:36] <flaccid> well something in your profile is refering to the malformed URI
[03:36] <bazhang> sounds risky
[03:36] <flaccid> this is typical kde kind of stuff
[03:37] <su-hoens`rZ> anyone know what the max number of files rm allows is? I got this error that i've never gotten before: -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[03:37] <neul> is the problem that you can't watch realmedia and windowsmedia video on Linux?
[03:37] <flaccid> neul: nope
[03:37] <bazhang> neul: nah
[03:37] <Tm_T> I can watch them just fine
[03:38] <neul> that's my question
[03:38] <arrrghhh> this is typical kde stuff... so then it should be an easy answer, yes?
[03:38] <bazhang> neul: you just need to get the right codecs and the best player for you and it will play
[03:38] <neul> tell me how
[03:38] <arrrghhh> neul: most wmv's if not all play on linux... realmedia is the only one i know of that isn't supported well
[03:38] <arrrghhh> use vlc
[03:38] <bazhang> I thought flaccid already did neul
[03:38] <Tm_T> vlc isn't answer for everything, remind you
[03:38] <arrrghhh> no...
[03:39] <arrrghhh> but it is one of the best i've found... only a couple of times did i fall back to xine or mplayer
[03:39] <neul> what player do you recommend
[03:39] <Tm_T> I recommend to try xine, mplayer, gstreamer and vlc
[03:39] <sagacious> In the past, I have instttalllled the K-Lite Mega Codec pack on winnne, which comes with Media Player Classic, terrific for playing real media.
[03:39]  * Tm_T uses KMplayer and Kaffeine mostly
[03:40] <arrrghhh> gstreamer is used as a backend for a lot of different programs...
[03:40] <sagacious> *instaleld
[03:40] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, the error you're seeing is actually the kernel's E2BIG error code returned when the execve function is not able to fit the supplied argument list and environment into the 128K buffer. You can use find to pipe each file to `rm` one by one.
[03:40] <sagacious> Darn wirless keyboard, dying batteries. :/
[03:40] <su-hoens`rZ> that's silly
[03:40] <arrrghhh> and i've never used kmplayer.  kaffeine was alright, never gave it much chance tho
[03:40] <neul> let's assume I am stupid
[03:40] <su-hoens`rZ> silly silly shell
[03:40] <arrrghhh> neul: i swear vlc.
[03:40] <neul> what is that
[03:40] <arrrghhh> google it
[03:41] <bazhang> neul: did you read those links provided?
[03:41] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, check out: http://www.moundalexis.com/archives/000035.php for some more information
[03:41] <arrrghhh> videolan.org
[03:41] <sagacious> Does anybody by chance know of a standalone .flv player for linux?
[03:41] <bazhang> neul: or look through ubuntuforums?
[03:41] <neul> yes, and installed everything
[03:41] <bazhang> sagacious: miro
[03:41] <arrrghhh> so what's the typical fix for malformed urls in kde?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> quite sure vlc will flv files
[03:42] <bazhang> it will
[03:42] <arrrghhh> vlc says it does, but it doesn't always
[03:42] <sagacious> In windows, but never has for me in linux
[03:42] <arrrghhh> yea it did flv better in windows...
[03:42] <arrrghhh> i'm beginning to not like flash in linux.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> gotta choose it in the file asociations in vlc
[03:42] <bazhang> right clikc open with vlc
[03:43] <neul> you guys are way over my head
[03:43] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, no one likes Flash outside of Windows :)
[03:43] <arrrghhh> uh i know how to do that
[03:43] <NickPresta> and mplayer plays Flash Video just fine :)
[03:43] <arrrghhh> lol i guess so.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> flash is broken on some later setups on kde
[03:43] <arrrghhh> mplayer, i didn't think about that for flash.
[03:43] <sagacious> There are a ton of standalone flash players in the respos that just segfaulted whenever I tried them.
[03:43] <sagacious> Wow, how did you get mplayer to play flash?
[03:43] <sagacious> It doesn't for me.
[03:43] <neul> i just want to watch some movies
[03:43] <NickPresta> sagacious, standard mplayer from the repos should play FLVs just fine
[03:43] <arrrghhh> neul: did you even look at vlc?
[03:44] <sagacious> .flvs and .swfs, or just one?
[03:44] <neul> not yet but thanx for the advice
[03:44] <BluesKaj> the flashplugin-nonfree used to be the one that did it all for web media like youtube , but i hear that's no longer the case
[03:44] <sagacious> I was trying to use mplayer to play a collectiong of .swfs I had, never seemed to work.  Maybe I had an older version...
[03:44] <NickPresta> sagacious, mplayer can't play SWFs AFAIK (it isn't a _real_ video format, IIRC) but FLVs are fine
[03:44] <sagacious> Ahh, i see
[03:45] <sagacious> That's too bad, mplaye rwould've been perfect for it.
[03:45] <neul> vlc, OK
[03:45] <NickPresta> sagacious, well, I lie. mplayer can play swfs with videos in them (using the lavf swf demuxer) but it doesn't always work
[03:45] <arrrghhh> need ffmpeg codecs for mplayer to play flvs
[03:46] <BluesKaj> libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:46] <arrrghhh> yea that one.
[03:46] <neul> what is the best way to get "vlc"
[03:46] <NickPresta> neul, sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:46] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:46] <neul> oic
[03:46] <su-hoens`rZ> so i tried using that find thign and i still can't delete the files
[03:46] <arrrghhh> lol videolan.org
[03:47] <arrrghhh> just to spice things up
[03:47] <sagacious> Yeah, that sounds over my head anyway, I generally have a hard time just selecting the right audio family for mplayer.
[03:47] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, what exactly did you do? Even a simple `ls | xargs rm` in that directory should work
[03:47] <arrrghhh> su-hoens`rZ: you've tried it from the command line?
[03:47] <su-hoens`rZ> yes?
[03:47] <neul> you guys are scary
[03:47] <su-hoens`rZ> i'm sshed in
[03:47] <su-hoens`rZ> NickPresta that didn't work
[03:47] <arrrghhh> you're scarry.  su-hoens`rZ, oh i'm sorry.
[03:47] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, same error?
[03:48] <arrrghhh> scary.  you're right.
[03:48] <su-hoens`rZ> sigh
[03:48] <su-hoens`rZ> i got it
[03:48] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, what was the solution?
[03:48] <su-hoens`rZ> i used find to remove files bit by bit
[03:48] <neul> i am unqualified for this channel :)
[03:48] <su-hoens`rZ> until i got enough of them to rm them all
[03:48] <NickPresta> su-hoens`rZ, ah okay
[03:49] <arrrghhh> shoot i was hopin my problem would be an easy fix.
[03:49] <su-hoens`rZ> i dunno tho
[03:49] <bazhang> neul: usually google and ubuntuforums can solve 90% of your problems--this is for really intractable problems
[03:49] <su-hoens`rZ> it seems like there should be a better way to do it
[03:50] <BluesKaj> su-hoens`rZ, removing files not installed by package managers : sudo rm -rf /folder/where/file/was/installed
[03:51] <neul> thanx bazhang.... I came on here once and the channel op said I was "stupid"
[03:51] <arrrghhh> that makes people want to use linux, calling the new converts stupid.
[03:52] <bazhang> neul: nah, just new is all--vlc and the proper codecs will do it most of the time, mplayer and kaffeine for the rest
[03:52] <neul> that hurt my feelings
[03:52] <BluesKaj> never seen any ops in here call anyone stupid especially anewb
[03:53] <bazhang> neul: you have to experiment with what works best for your setup--a bit of trial and error--and then stick with that; and it will vary with what hardware you are using
[03:54] <neul> OK "vlc" and the proper codecs
[03:54] <bazhang> yeah, I wonder if they were an op, that sounds really un-coc-ish
[03:54] <arrrghhh> the best part about linux is it gives you many options so if one doesn't work there's others that might
[03:54] <bazhang> so true
[03:54] <arrrghhh> vlc by itself should be fine i think... i guess it depends on what you're playing.
[03:54] <bazhang> unlike the itunes for everything method
[03:54] <neul> how does one obtain the codecs
[03:54] <sagacious> Hey, I think I have a bit of a problem.  In Kubuntu, when I go to System Settings, Network Connections, and into adminstrator mode, I stilll can't edit any of the settings for my NIC.  Is this because it's configured from DHCP, or is System Settings menu broken?
[03:55] <sagacious> I've been having to set my values by hand with route and ifconfig, but they always reset and it's beginning to become annoying.
[03:56] <arrrghhh> i always just use network-admin
[03:56] <bazhang> neul: get the win32codecs from medibuntu.org ; there are instructions there how to do it--you may want to get libdvdcss2 as well to play dvd's in your box, and then install the kubuntu-restricted-extras; that should set you up, though you may want to install realplayer as well
[03:56] <BluesKaj> bazhang, we'vbe had ppl in here showing off their linux chops and bragging about how they've done this nad that but aren't very helpful to ppl in need ...maybe one of those types appeared to be an op but was just grandstanding.
[03:56] <bazhang> so true BluesKaj
[03:57] <sagacious> Well, before I tended to use Webmin, but lately it seems to be breaking things or just not properly configuring them, maybe they have a new UI I don't understand.  In any case, I've been trying to figure out how to set up my NIC at boot with the /etc/networking/interfaces file, but I can't find any help files for it.
[03:58] <neul> what is the fourth over middle C?
[03:58] <bazhang> not sure what you mean neul--sounds like a musical question :}
[03:59] <neul> see? you don't know
[03:59] <neul> we all have our areas of expertize
[03:59] <sagacious> G flat?
[03:59]  * sagacious stabs at the dark
[03:59] <arrrghhh> sagacious: man interfaces
[04:00] <bazhang> man middle c
[04:00] <sagacious> Ahhh, thanks a bunch, arrrghhh
[04:00] <sagacious> You know what I can't help but be amused by?
[04:00] <sagacious> man date and man mount
[04:00] <sagacious> Call me immature
[04:00] <bazhang> heh
[04:00] <arrrghhh> sorry
[04:00] <sagacious> But I can't help but chuckle whenever I need to referrence those commands.  :P
[04:00] <arrrghhh> i didn't create it!
[04:00] <arrrghhh> it's a great system, c'mon.
[04:01] <sagacious> I've always wished "man at tee" would work
[04:01] <arrrghhh> i remember reading some strange ubuntu easter eggs, and then i found out they were only gnome
[04:01] <neul> what is the leading tone in the key of C?
[04:01] <arrrghhh> like there was some cli command that would make fish swim across the screen, crap like that.
[04:02] <bazhang> neul: offtopic
[04:02] <neul> you don't know
[04:02] <sagacious> neul: Generally, "I hate pointers!"
[04:03] <neul> no I'm cool
[04:03] <bazhang> neul: any more questions? if not, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <arrrghhh> i still have a question about a malformed url when i open most system menu items.
[04:03] <neul> I'm just saying, you're not the only guys who know things
[04:04] <sagacious> ...
[04:05] <neul> and thanks for the help
[04:05] <sagacious> I'm so confused now.  I could swear I've installed webmin out of the respositories every time I've done it, and now it's telling me it's not there again.
[04:06] <ardchoille> !webmin
[04:06] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[04:06] <neul> i'm just bitter because I can't see my gf's video :(
[04:07] <sagacious> Hmm
[04:07] <sagacious> Well, that explains a lot lately.
[04:07] <sagacious> That's also very disappointing, I really liked webmin.
[04:07] <arrrghhh> http://arrrghhh.gotdns.com/snapshot1.png
[04:08] <sagacious> Well, I've been noticing lately that every time I do something in webmin, it doesn't do what I expected.  So I'm begining to think maybe it's just not working correctly with Gutsy anymore, and that seems to support it. :(
[04:08] <neul> thanks for the advice, I will try this "vlc"
[04:09] <neul> you guys be good
[04:18] <asdfw13245> i guess my old nickname is still in use...
[04:18] <asdfw13245> how lame.
[04:20] <Hobbsee> !ghost | asdfw13245
[04:20] <ubotu> asdfw13245: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[04:24] <asdfw13245> it's been a while since i've used irc...
[04:25] <BrOSs-> hi.. i need some help
[04:25] <BrOSs-> x)
[04:25] <arrrghhh> Hobbsee: thanks
[04:25] <bazhang> ask BrOSs-
[04:26] <BrOSs-> bazhang: i want to change the name of my domain
[04:27] <bazhang> BrOSs-: and what is your question? :}
[04:27] <arrrghhh> uh i don't think that's a question related to kubuntu.
[04:27] <arrrghhh> even remotely
[04:27] <BrOSs-> haha wait me.. i'm looking for something
[04:27] <BrOSs-> sorry
[04:27] <BluesKaj> sacktime for me folks ...nite all
[04:28] <BrOSs-> my hostname starts with a "-" so.. that made some troubles with sudo
[04:28] <BrOSs-> and sudo doesnt works
[04:29] <BrOSs-> this error appears when I try to type any command with sudo
[04:29] <BrOSs-> sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[04:29] <arrrghhh> you can't put the command in quotes?
[04:30] <BrOSs-> they gave me this answer..
[04:30] <BrOSs-> Edit both files and remove the "-" (dash) from in front of "laptop". It isn't a valid character in a hostname. (at least it causes a lot of trouble) You will need to start your editor with sudo in order to have permission to save your changes. Once you have finished with your edits, you will need to logout and reboot.
[04:30] <BrOSs-> my hostmname is "-laptop"
[04:30] <BrOSs-> so my questions is how to remove the dash
[04:30] <BrOSs-> x)
[04:30] <arrrghhh> i dunno i guess.
[04:31] <arrrghhh> all my ideas would be ones that are not tested
[04:31] <BrOSs-> bazhang: any idea?
[04:32] <BrOSs-> ardchoille: could u help me?
[04:33] <bazhang> BrOSs-: not really sure there
[04:33] <ardchoille> BrOSs-: Help with what?
[04:34] <ardchoille> BrOSs-: Oh, hostname? Have a look at  /etc/hosts  and  /etc/hostname
[04:34] <BrOSs-> up page I explain the thing.. if u want to I say the history again x)
[04:34] <BrOSs-> yeah
[04:35] <BrOSs-> how can I edit that If I don't have root privilage
[04:36] <ardchoille> I suppose you could boot into the livecd, mount the internal hd, then edit from the livecd
[04:37] <BrOSs-> something like re-install kubuntu?
[04:37] <BrOSs-> I remember when I installed.. it asked me for the hostname
[04:38] <BrOSs-> may be that is a good way to solve this
[04:38] <BrOSs-> thks man
[04:39] <SonMUSTANG> 2
[04:39] <SonMUSTANG> newbie
[04:39] <bazhang> you have a question SonMUSTANG?
[04:39] <SonMUSTANG> Have any one in Vietnam??
[04:40] <SonMUSTANG> I just install Kubuntu
[04:40] <SonMUSTANG> !!!
[04:42] <bazhang> great SonMUSTANG, what is your question? do you want a channel in vietnamese?
[04:44] <SonMUSTANG> Yes
[04:45] <SonMUSTANG> Can U help me??
[04:46] <SonMUSTANG> Have any channel for Vietnamese??
[04:46] <bazhang> !vn
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <SonMUSTANG> Thanks
[04:46] <SonMUSTANG> I will
[04:47] <SonMUSTANG> No, there isn't
[04:47] <SonMUSTANG> Althought, Thanks for help
[04:47] <SonMUSTANG> goodbye
[04:47] <bazhang> SonMUSTANG: well you can ask in englsih if you wish
[04:48] <SonMUSTANG> I afraid of my English skill
[04:48] <SonMUSTANG> so U can't understand!!
[04:48] <SonMUSTANG> :(
[04:49] <bazhang> do your best SonMUSTANG
[04:49] <SonMUSTANG> I'll try!!
[04:49] <SonMUSTANG> In Konqueror
[04:49] <bazhang> what is the issue SonMUSTANG
[04:49] <SonMUSTANG> Web browser
[04:50] <SonMUSTANG> I lost my Menu
[04:50] <SonMUSTANG> Where can I find it??
[04:51] <bazhang> SonMUSTANG: there is a vietnamese channel after all: #ubuntu-vn you can go there, and see if they can help, or continue here, or both--your choice :}
[04:52] <Tm_T> SonMUSTANG: ctrl-m ?
[04:53] <Tm_T> SonMUSTANG: and your english is good
[04:53] <SonMUSTANG> thanks U very much
[04:53] <SonMUSTANG> See ya!!
[04:59] <arrrghhh> so... anyone ever had the malformed url error when opening any of the system menu items?
[04:59] <Tm_T> sure
[05:00] <hydrogen> tm_t--
[05:00] <hydrogen> oops
[05:00] <hydrogen> wrong channel
[05:01] <arrrghhh> well the only solution i found was to rename /home/<username>/.kde to ./.kde_old or whatever and let it rewrite all of that...
[05:01] <hydrogen> but it's habit :/
[05:01] <Tm_T> hydrogen: I was so about to mute you ;)
[05:01] <hydrogen> :)
[05:01] <Tm_T> arrrghhh: humm, let me look at it
[05:01] <arrrghhh> http://arrrghhh.gotdns.com/snapshot1.png
[05:01] <arrrghhh> http://arrrghhh.gotdns.com/snapshot3.jpg if that helps really...
[05:01] <scooter_> i cant watch any flash video's... how can i make it so i can?
[05:02] <arrrghhh> scooter_: goto adobe.com and get the flash player
[05:02] <scooter_> i tried but idk how to install it
[05:02] <ardchoille> !flash | scooter_
[05:02] <ubotu> scooter_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:02] <scooter_> thank you
[05:02] <ardchoille> yw
[05:03] <ubuntu__> hay alguien que hable español?
[05:03] <flaccid> !es
[05:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:03] <arrrghhh> i really hope gnash gets better... cuz i found it wasn't any better.
[05:03] <Linuxmaniac> o... gracias...
[05:06] <asdfasdfasd> hello i created a dir at /home/my_user/Documentos and im trying to mount a partition dere to save all my music and stuff. now i succesfully mounted it (/dev/hda4) but i need root permissions to write. how can i change the permissions?
[05:07] <arrrghhh> asdfasdfasd: sudo chmod 700 /home/<user>/
[05:07] <ardchoille> asdfasdfasd: change the ownership of the mountpoint
[05:07] <arrrghhh> i guess i should say chmod
[05:07] <arrrghhh> just look at man chmod asdfasdfasd
[05:07] <asdfasdfasd> arrrghhh: i want my amule to download stuff there so if i type that i wont have to run "sudo amule" everytime?
[05:09] <flaccid> why does amule command not work under user?
[05:09] <asdfasdfasd> arrrghhh: i typed that and it still says me "permission denied"
[05:10] <asdfasdfasd> (i tried makin a dir "hello")
[05:10] <flaccid> um you might want do do a ls -lahR /home/user | more to see what is wrong ownership/perms
[05:11] <flaccid> check the amule dir
[05:11] <Jahooty> what's a cyan listing under Konsole mean?  is it a symbolic link?
[05:12] <flaccid> if the problem is writing to the disk where you download to with amule, see !ntfs to mount it correcty under so user can write
[05:12] <flaccid> Jahooty: do a file /path/to/file to see
[05:12] <francis> Anyone know how I can get usb speakers detected by alsa?
[05:12] <earl_> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree returns the following error message: http://pastebin.com/m6db9ecce
[05:12] <Jahooty> thanks heaps
[05:12] <earl_> i'm on 32-bit, for the record
[05:12] <earl_> how can i fix it
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Jahooty,  try ls -l to see a long listing  it may tell ya also
[05:13] <asdfasdfasd> nope flaccid im trying to mount a partiotion (/dev/hda4) so i created a directory /home/my_user/Documentos and i want to put there music. now i mounted it editing fstab but when i tried to modify something eg. creating a dir hello i need root permission
[05:13] <arrrghhh> asdfasdfasd: well you could just chmod it to 777
[05:14] <flaccid> !ntfs | asdfasdfasd
[05:14] <ubotu> asdfasdfasd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:14] <flaccid> did you read that?
[05:14] <flaccid> for example, i this is one i use: /dev/sda6       /media/dump     vfat    user,rw,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000      0       1
[05:14] <asdfasdfasd> its ext3
[05:14] <asdfasdfasd> and solved! thanks guys
[05:15] <flaccid> the fstab options are relevant for the different filesystem types
[05:15] <flaccid> ok np
[05:15] <asdfasdfasd> ^^
[05:15] <scooter_> konsole says my arcitecture is not supported by the adobe flash player installer
[05:15] <scooter_> what do i do
[05:15] <Dr_willis> what archtecture ya using?
[05:15] <scooter_> i dont know
[05:15] <scooter_> how do i find out
[05:15] <scooter_> sorry im new at this
[05:16] <flaccid> uname -a
[05:16] <ardchoille> scooter_: uname -a
[05:16] <flaccid> well uname -m
[05:16] <scooter_> x86_64
[05:17] <flaccid> you need 64bit flash, is it available?
[05:17] <ardchoille> !find flash64
[05:17] <ubotu> Package/file flash64 does not exist in gutsy
[05:17] <scooter_> so does that mean i cant use flash?
[05:17] <flaccid> scooter_: this might be a solution: http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/09/22/installing-flash-9-on-64-bit-ubuntu/
[05:17] <flaccid> !flash
[05:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:18] <flaccid> i'm not sure if that helps at all ^
[05:18] <asdfasdfasd> oh another doubt to mount the partition i typed "sudo mount /home/my_user/Documentos" now if i reboot will i have to mount it again or it will be done automatically?
[05:18] <flaccid> scooter_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-38245bd46a3334b4cc11601e161ddaa63439d2db
[05:19] <flaccid> asdfasdfasd: that depends if you specified the noauto option in fstab or not
[05:19] <flaccid> asdfasdfasd: you should do user mount, not root
[05:19] <flaccid> user,rw,auto
[05:19] <scottman_> hello
[05:19] <Dr_willis> asdfasdfasd,  fstab entrys get scanned at boot and mounted.
[05:20] <asdfasdfasd> i typed this "/dev/hda4  /home/nico/Documentos ext3 defaults 0 1"
[05:20] <asdfasdfasd> in fstab
[05:20] <scottman_> I need help with kopete
[05:20] <scottman_> is this the right place?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> asdfasdfasd,  unmount th thing, and try 'sudo mount -a' see if it mounts
[05:20] <flaccid> see man fstab for defaults..
[05:21] <scottman_> anyone here know kopete stuff?
[05:21] <flaccid> what is kopete stuff
[05:22] <Dr_willis>  for a hard drive mount like that. I always make a directory on the filesystem (ie on hda4) named like /media/hda4/THEUSERSNAMESTORAGE
[05:22] <asdfasdfasd> yeah it mounted Dr_willis
[05:22] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48625/ anyone know how to fix this virtualbox issue in kubuntu gutsy?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> then just link that dir to the users home someplace.
[05:22] <bazhang> scottman_: one of the developers is here sometimes, so yes
[05:22] <scottman_> kopete is the instant messenger for kde.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> when mounting a whole filesystem that way. I am not sure how you make the 'root' of the filesystem owned by the user.
[05:22] <flaccid> asdfasdfasd: if you specify the user option, you don't need to use sudo
[05:22] <flaccid> scottman_: i was reffering to the 'stuff'
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Of coruse my way also keeps the lost+found dir out of the users dir. :)
[05:22] <scottman_> oh
[05:23] <scottman_> well, here is the issue.
[05:23] <scottman_> I'd like to use the webcam and sound.
[05:23] <flaccid> Dr_willis: you just specify user option and chown the mount point and optionally specify mask options
[05:23] <scottman_> is that supported in kopoete?
[05:23] <flaccid> yes scottman_
[05:23] <flaccid> it of course depends on the support of the webcam and sound devices
[05:23] <scottman_> when I plug in the webcam and test it, I get a blue screen.
[05:23] <flaccid> !webcam | scottman_
[05:23] <ubotu> scottman_: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:23] <flaccid> check the support ^
[05:24] <scottman_> oooh.  cool.
[05:24] <scottman_> brb.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  you SURE that works?  i know for vfat/ntfs you can/have to set that stuff.. BUT for ext3..it does support owner/permissions.
[05:24] <flaccid> it differs depending on the filesystem
[05:25] <flaccid> ntfs of course is dif masks as well
[05:25] <scottman_> thanks.
[05:25] <flaccid> for vfat and ext* its straight forward
[05:25] <earl_> trying to install flash. when i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree i get the following error message: http://pastebin.com/m6db9ecce
[05:25] <scooter_> ok this is still not working
[05:25] <scooter_> it says i cant mkdir
[05:25] <Dr_willis> i dont recall chmoding  the mount point ever doing anything. :) but i havent tried lately.
[05:26] <scooter_> and the binary it says to save says its corrupt
[05:26] <flaccid> show us the entry in fstab and the entry int the output of mount and ls -l /mount/point
[05:26] <flaccid> Dr_willis: user option required, nouser is default
[05:26] <Dr_willis> of coruse if the ect3 partition is to be mounted at boot time.. whats the need for the user option?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> or is it a removeable drive?
[05:27] <flaccid> yeah possibly is for the user only like that
[05:27] <earl_> no one has any idea...?
[05:27] <flaccid> could even be for a system user that runs a daemon on some external device that is mounted. lots of special applications
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I recall issues in the past moving ext3 filesystems/disks from disrto to disrto or machien to machine. :) in that the permissions/ownerships often get messed up.
[05:27] <earl_> if i apt-get remove it and repeat it just does the same thing...
[05:28] <Dr_willis> flash has some issues here lately.
[05:28] <flaccid> Dr_willis: yeah hopefully tar or cpio don't do that
[05:29] <dev_null> I have feisty and i'm trying to mount a linux NFS system.  I am getting an error of 'eth0: no IPv6 routers present'.  What could I be missing?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> thats just a warning isent it about the ipv6?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Not an actual error? I recall seeing that also. but never had issues with it.
[05:30] <flaccid> did you follow the !nfs
[05:30] <dev_null> mount: special device //<ip>:<path> does not exist
[05:30] <dev_null> is the error message
[05:31] <dev_null> whats !nfs
[05:31] <flaccid> !nfs
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. whats the exact line you are using to mount it?
[05:31] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:32] <dev_null> sudo mount -t nfs <ip>:<path> /mnti
[05:32] <Dr_willis> You are using the actual Ip# and path?
[05:32] <dev_null> yes
[05:32] <dev_null> i removed them to post them here
[05:33] <Dr_willis> you would NOT belive the times ive seen people not understand the use of   mount /example/thing/here :)
[05:33] <dev_null> understood
[05:34] <dev_null> sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.11.53:/disk1/User/brad /mnt/yeti
[05:34] <Dr_willis> The mount point does exist dont it?
[05:34] <Dr_willis>  /mnt/yeti  does exist?
[05:35] <dev_null> i think the problem may be in that link you posted
[05:35] <dev_null> I am installing portmap now
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Yep - portmap is needed I recall :)
[05:35] <dev_null> ./mnt/yeti does exist as a dir
[05:35] <sn00zer> whenever i use the kde sound system for anything (login sound, konqueror sound preview) there is a long delay and in konqueror the window goes grey for a few seconds, this only started with a recent reboot, another reboot didn't fix it, does anyone know what causes this?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> thats one of the better done howto's ive seen :)
[05:36] <dev_null> yeah
[05:36] <dev_null> I have gotten further now, I may be able to get it from there
[05:36] <dev_null> thanks
[05:36] <dev_null> let me try thuis
[05:38] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: you probably have a hardware issue, check dmesg and see.
[05:39] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: what should i be looking for exactly? i haven't changed anything
[05:40] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: this just started happening out of nowhere?  you didn't add any new hardware, change how sound is rendered, etc?  i'm assuming you're still using alsa?
[05:42] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: i installed an app or two, changed some volume levels in alsaconfig, but its the same hardware, just shut it down, moved from dorm room to home, booted up and now sound previews and login sound lags horribly, and yes, using alsa
[05:43] <arrrghhh> so when you go to system settings -> sound system, hardware tab what is selected for "select the audio device"?
[05:44] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: advanced linux sound architecture
[05:44] <dev_null> is there a parm so I can pass a username and password to mount?
[05:44] <dev_null> i don't see one in man
[05:44] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: it was auto-detect but i switched it to alsa to see if it helped
[05:44] <Tm_T> dev_null: it's mounted as user its mounted
[05:45] <arrrghhh> hrm.  and you don't have any weird settings on that page?  i have autodetect and nothing else filled out except for the midi section.
[05:45] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: none of the boxes are checked
[05:45] <arrrghhh> have you tried disabling the sound system or did you change any settings like process priority or auto-suspend?
[05:46] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: no, would i need to reboot if i disable and re-enable?
[05:47] <arrrghhh> uhm i don't know... at least an x-server restart but you might need to restart the whole system to really test it...
[05:47] <dev_null> so I can't mount it with different credentials
[05:48] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: ok, i'll try that real quick
[05:48] <dev_null>  failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[05:48] <arrrghhh> so anyone know much about malformed url errors within kde?
[05:49] <hagabaka> what about them?
[05:49] <arrrghhh> someone said it was a 'common issue' but i haven't found a fix other than renaming the .kde directory and letting kde regenerate a new one... i don't like that solution
[05:49] <arrrghhh> well when i click on the system menu to anything except 'home' i get a malformed url error
[05:49] <arrrghhh> http://arrrghhh.gotdns.com/snapshot2.png
[05:49] <arrrghhh> er
[05:49] <arrrghhh> http://arrrghhh.gotdns.com/snapshot1.png
[05:49] <arrrghhh> sorry
[05:51] <Tm_T> weird
[05:51] <arrrghhh> snapshot2 should work now if you don't understand what menu i'm clicking on!
[05:54] <arrrghhh> yea i don't get it.  just started happening out of the blue.  one thing that pisses me off about linux, random little things that break that don't make sense.  like klipper... and this.
[05:55] <Tm_T> arrrghhh: atleast these can be debugged (usually)
[05:55] <arrrghhh> i'd love to figure out how to get some terminal output or log from this!
[05:57] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: Try this in a terminal and see if there is anyting: kfmclient exec .local/share/applications/kde-kate.desktop
[05:58] <arrrghhh> does not exist
[05:58] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: ok try: kfmclient exec .local/share/applications/kde-konqbrowser.desktop
[05:59] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: just now heard login sound
[05:59] <arrrghhh> same
[05:59] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: is it still wonky?
[05:59] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: yes
[05:59] <arrrghhh> and the sound is off
[06:00] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: no, back to auto detect
[06:00] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: you might have a look at your dmesg output.. i'm not an expert on that stuff tho.
[06:00] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: DO you have anything in ~/.local/share/applications ?
[06:01] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: should i increase the sound system priority?
[06:02] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: i looked at dmesg | tail and theres nothing relevant there
[06:02] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: what is it at now
[06:02] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: yes, very little.  defaults.list, kde-knotes.desktop Swiftweasel.dkesotp vlc.desktop
[06:03] <sn00zer> arrrghhh 232 milliseconds 10 fragments with 4096 bytes
[06:03] <arrrghhh> oh and a wine folder
[06:03] <hmmm_> tes
[06:03] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: ok try: kfmclient exec .local/share/applications/kde-knotes.desktop
[06:03] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: seems like the default, that's what mine's set at... what about the auto-suspend?
[06:03] <sn00zer> arrrghhh if idle after 60 seconds
[06:04] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: it opened a blank new note in knotes which was already running.
[06:04] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: No errors?
[06:04] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: beats me... that's very strange.  there's gotta be a way to disable it.
[06:05] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: it went to the next line with no output whatsoever...
[06:05] <sn00zer> arrrghhh ok, thanks, i'll spend some more time with google
[06:05] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: Ok, that was a test hoping for something related to your malformed url problem.
[06:05] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: just curious, what happens when you click 'test sound' on that system settings page
[06:06] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: the only time i can reproduce it is when i go to that system menu.
[06:06] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[06:06] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: nothing
[06:06] <sn00zer> wait, there it is
[06:07] <arrrghhh> it just took a while?
[06:07] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: there's about 20 seconds of delay
[06:10] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: do you know where that system menu references the location to go to?  that seems to be the issue.
[06:11] <arrrghhh> sn00zer: that's a strange problem... with nothing in dmesg i don't know.  i'd analyze what has changed since the sound last worked.
[06:12] <sn00zer> arrrghhh: ok, thanks
[06:12] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: No, I wish I knew.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> bummer
[06:29] <arrrghhh> well it's bedtime
[06:45] <oneeyedelf1> how do I execute a command at boot, such as a dyndns command
[06:45] <oneeyedelf1> well a script to update dyndns
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> you'll want to add the script to /etc/init.d/scriptname
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[06:46] <oneeyedelf1> sub[t]rnl: but doesnt it need to be in the special init format?
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> oneeyedelf1: http://chase.homeunix.com/EXAMPLE-init.d-script
[06:51] <llutz>  /etc/init.d/skeleton is an examaple
[06:52] <oneeyedelf1> thanks sub[t]rnl , thanks llutz  but sub[t]rnl is much easier for me to use
[06:52] <llutz> k
[06:53] <oneeyedelf1> what user does it run as?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> root
[06:54] <greenman1itch> Hello. I have an Atheros wifi card and upon booting Ubuntu for the first time it displayed my network but it won't connect to it
[06:54] <greenman1itch> there are no error messages
[07:09] <root> tes
[07:11] <root> quit
[07:18] <sigma_> whats a good kde / linux substitute to daemon tools? i just need something to mount cd/dvd images. im sick of having to use my windows pc to do it
[07:19] <usser> sigma_: eh?
[07:19] <usser> sigma_: iso images?
[07:19] <llutz> sigma_: just to browse contents? krusader
[07:20] <usser> sigma_: mount command does that
[07:22] <ardchoille> sigma_: There are lots of service menu items that can do that
[07:22] <ardchoille> sigma_: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=287&PHPSESSID=62162b097ced1b119b4bf8df6b1f40b3
[07:29] <sigma_> thanks guys
[07:30] <sigma_> llutz: yeah sometimes i need to copy items out of the iso's
[07:31] <llutz> sigma_: then krusader should work fine, just press enter on an .iso to open
[07:31] <sigma_> ardchoille: which service menu is it at that link?
[07:31] <sigma_> llutz: ok let me give it a try
[07:32] <sigma_> llutz: ok thats a rather big download, is there anything that integrates into konqueror? i see krusader is a file manager on its own
[07:33] <llutz> sigma_: just use mount -o loop ...
[07:34] <sigma_> so the command would be "mount -o isoname.iso" ?
[07:34] <llutz> sigma_: like" mount -o loop your.iso /mnt "
[07:34] <llutz> with sudo
[07:36] <Eldaria> sigma_: perhaps this one? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[07:38] <sigma_> Eldaria: thanks, downloading it now
[07:38] <sigma_> Eldaria: how do i install it?
[07:39] <Eldaria> no clue, i just searched google for 'daemon tools kde' saw an archived forum post, and a bit down was a link to this. :-)
[07:40] <sigma_> ok that doesnt work in this version of kde, its rather old:)
[07:41] <ninjagambit> I was downloading a file on k torrent and then my mb downloaded started going backwards
[07:41] <ninjagambit> what would cause this
[07:41] <Eldaria> sigma: well there is also the "hard way", https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso?highlight=%28iso%20%29%7C%28mount%29 although i think that only works with .iso files.
[07:41] <sigma_> ktorrent bug perhaps
[07:43]  * kamalx wrestles with the clock in kubuntu.. :(
[07:43] <kamalx> can someone help please..
[07:44] <Tm_T> Eldaria_away: noooooooo
[07:44] <sub[t]rnl> ninjagambit: You see each chunk has a hash, so ktorrent can verify if the data is correct. You need the whole chunk to verify this hash. When a chunk is downloading ktorrent adds those bytes to the number downloaded. So when ktorrent detects that the hash doesn't match, ktorrent has to subtract the size of the chunk from the downloaded amount.
[07:44] <sub[t]rnl> via google
[07:44] <Tm_T> kamalx: no if you don't ask a real question?
[07:45] <kamalx> ok.. sorry for that..
[07:45] <Tm_T> kamalx: no problems, its not easy to make right questions ;)
[07:45] <kamalx> i set the clock to IST in kubuntu
[07:45] <kamalx> and the timezone to asia/calcutta
[07:46] <cntb> lj;lkj
[07:46] <kamalx> and i have a dual boot with ubuntu feisty.. well actually I was trying out kubuntu gutsy
[07:46] <kamalx> so when i set the clock in kubuntu it sets the system clock off by 5 hrs 30 mins
[07:47] <kamalx> and the ubuntu clock that was rightly set the same timezone goes off by 5 hrs 30 mins too..
[07:47] <cntb> \o
[07:48] <kamalx> and if i correct it in ubuntu feisty or i the bios.. it again shows an offset of -5.30 hrs in kubuntu..
[07:48] <ninjagambit> ok because i have firestarter and that thing was going crazy with the red lightning bolt
[07:48] <kamalx> well this time i set it in kubuntu again.. to the correct IST time right now and got another peculiar problem
[07:49] <kamalx> Tm_T: any sudo command doesnt run; gives an error saying -- timestamp too far in future!
[07:49] <llutz> kamalx: sudo -K
[07:49] <kamalx> how should i set it right?
[07:49] <kamalx> ok..
[07:49] <llutz> then try again
[07:50] <kamalx> llutz: do i need to use the -K option everytime?
[07:51] <llutz> kamalx: no, just once that error appears
[07:51] <kamalx> ok.. i did that.. but it still shows the error
[07:51] <kamalx> $ sudo -K
[07:51] <kamalx> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 18 15:30:36 2007
[07:51] <llutz> kamalx:try  sudo -k
[07:52] <kamalx> still same error! :(
[07:52] <llutz> odd
[07:52] <llutz> !aptfix
[07:52] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:53] <dany> hi
[07:53] <kamalx> llutz: OMG.. tried ubotu's trick.. even that doesn't work! :(
[07:53] <llutz> kamalx: aah, sry not that wasn't for you
[07:54] <dany> ardchoille:
[07:54] <dany> are u there?
[07:54] <kamalx> ok.. oops! :P
[07:54] <llutz> kamalx: whats you local time now?
[07:54] <llutz> your
[07:54] <kamalx> 15.23 hrs
[07:54] <kamalx> IST
[07:54] <llutz> so wait 7 minutes :)
[07:54] <kamalx> timezone: asia/calcutta
[07:54] <kamalx> ok
[07:56] <Stevethepirate> "Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card" <-- this (k)ubuntu compatible?
[07:57] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: what chip?
[07:57] <kraut> moin
[07:58] <Stevethepirate> Tm_T: No clue.. its on a dell inspiron 1720 I'm looking at..
[07:58] <Stevethepirate> It doesn't give me details like that :P
[07:58] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: it does ;(
[07:58] <Stevethepirate> When you say chip..
[07:59] <Stevethepirate> you mean chipset?
[07:59] <Tm_T> I mean wlan chip
[07:59] <Stevethepirate> No. It doesn't say.
[07:59] <Stevethepirate> let me click on "more info" again
[07:59] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: anyway, have you tried Kubuntu livecd?
[07:59] <Stevethepirate> No, I'm about to order this laptop...
[08:00] <Tm_T> aha, I see
[08:00] <Stevethepirate> Intel®  Next-Gen Wireless-N
[08:00] <Stevethepirate> Dell Wireless 1505 Wireless-N
[08:00] <Stevethepirate> There we go.
[08:00] <Stevethepirate> I think thats it.
[08:00] <anakin_> Ok, so its time to see what the buzz is abotu kde4 that everyone is raving about. been ages since i've used kde :)
[08:00] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: now, hmm
[08:00] <Tm_T> anakin_: there's not much to see yet
[08:00] <kamalx> Tm_T: its 15.30 here..
[08:01] <dany> I have a question
[08:01] <dany> x)
[08:01] <kamalx> should i run sudo -K again?
[08:01] <Tm_T> dany: I too, what is your question?
[08:01] <dany> haha..
[08:01] <llutz> kamalx: should work without now
[08:02] <dany> Tm_T: i want my desktop to be 3D, my kubuntu version is 6.06
[08:02] <dany> with this command do I update the OS ?
[08:02] <dany> sudo update-manager -c -d ?
[08:02] <Tm_T> dany: urrrgh
[08:02] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[08:02] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:02] <anakin_> Tm_T: oh? well, whats this then? more than the eye candy, I am hoping that the usability is better with KDE since the last time I used it.
[08:02] <Tm_T> anakin_: 4.0 doesn't bring all goodness to the users yet
[08:03] <Tm_T> anakin_: but sure, try
[08:03] <kamalx> Tm_T: not workin yet! its showing the same error msg...
[08:03] <Tm_T> anakin_: I'm interested to heat what usability issues you have with KDE3, msg me if interested to look them more closely
[08:03] <Tm_T> kamalx: hmm, evilish
[08:04] <dany> Tm_T:  that page ruls.. thks
[08:04] <kamalx> Tm_T: yeah.. quite so.. :(
[08:04] <kamalx> manually adding 5.30 to know the current time wasnt that bad.. :(
[08:05] <Tm_T> kamalx: you might try #ubuntu too with your issue
[08:05] <llutz> kamalx: and post the answer here plz, had some more people with that issue in the last days
[08:06] <kamalx> llutz: ok.. will try..
[08:06] <Stevethepirate> Tm_T: any solution?
[08:07] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: umm, no, sorry, I don't know much about wlan, does googling with that type help?
[08:07] <dany> Tm_T: that page only helps me with ubuntu.. I have kubuntu
[08:07] <Tm_T> dany: mmmgh
[08:07] <Tm_T> sorry, I don't know
[08:08] <anakin_> Tm_T:  is there a meta-package to install kde4 or do I need to install 'em separately?
[08:08] <jussi01> !kde4
[08:08] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[08:09] <anakin_> thanks jussi01
[08:09] <jussi01> :)
[08:16] <ardchoille> dany: I'm here. What's up?
[08:16] <ninjagambit> seems like if apple was going to put a video up to promote a product they would allow you to download it faster than 5kbs
[08:17] <ninjagambit> sence it is a 381MB file
[08:18] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: Are you suspecting some problem in your connection then?
[08:18] <ninjagambit> no
[08:18] <ninjagambit> nothing wrong with it
[08:19] <ninjagambit> everything else is working fine
[08:19] <Lynoure> ok, just checking if you needed support :)
[08:19] <ninjagambit> you could tell me what all the hits on firestarter mean
[08:20] <sub[t]rnl> in events?
[08:20] <sub[t]rnl> the red icon shows up when firestarter has blocked something
[08:21] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: sure, give a bit more detail on what kind of hits you are getting. I normally use plain iptables, myself
[08:23] <ninjagambit> yeah
[08:23] <ninjagambit> i get that every few seconds
[08:24] <ninjagambit> exept it turns red and the events list is full of random ip with destination 192.168.0.2
[08:24] <ninjagambit> is that normal
[08:25] <sub[t]rnl> what ports?
[08:26] <dany> ardchoille: I find out reading how to upgrade my kubuntu 6.06 to 7.04 but im not sure if what Im doing is correct.. haha
[08:26] <dany> may I tell u what I did?
[08:26] <dany> do you know the process?
[08:26] <ninjagambit> 55393 , 41799 , 44288 , 35769,
[08:26] <ninjagambit> and alot more
[08:26] <ninjagambit> but most in those ranges
[08:28] <sub[t]rnl> ninjagambit: welcome to the internet
[08:29] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: those are the ports on your system or the ports on the remote systems? Or are both the source and destination in those ranges?
[08:30] <Stevethepirate> Tm_T: any solutions?
[08:30] <Stevethepirate> or results?
[08:31] <ninjagambit> dosnt say
[08:31] <ninjagambit> ports on mine that are blocked
[08:31] <ninjagambit> i guess
[08:32] <ardchoille> !upgrade | dany You should read this
[08:32] <ubotu> dany You should read this: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:32] <kamal> llutz: did not get an answer at #ubuntu.. a friend suggested me to reboot and set a root password in recovery mode and use that to set back the time.. couldn't get into recovery mode but just a restart solved the timestamp problem..
[08:33] <dany> ardchoille: I already did
[08:33] <dany> ardchoille: there is just about ubuntu
[08:34] <ninjagambit> like what  does 18.40.83.202.asianet.co.in mean
[08:34] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: Could be pretty much anything then.
[08:34] <ninjagambit> they trying to  attack my pc
[08:34] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: that's a hostname.
[08:35] <ardchoille> dany: Hmm.. I was sure there were Kuubntu instructions there. I don't do upgrades, so I can' thelp much with it.
[08:35] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: What makes you think it's a targeted attack? What are they doing?
[08:35] <ninjagambit> nothing firestarter keeps poping up  with all of this
[08:36] <ninjagambit> it might be from ktorrent
[08:36] <ninjagambit> but the ports are  wrong
[08:36] <ninjagambit> am i correct
[08:36] <dany> ardchoille: no problem..
[08:36] <ninjagambit> ?
[08:36] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: if 192.168.0.2 is your local range ip, and you have a full forward to that from your natted public address (which keeps on changing), you can get stuff that looks scary, though actually it was just something legal meant for the previous holder of that ip
[08:37] <dany> ardchoille: if my theory doesn't works.. i'll come back for ur help
[08:37] <jussi01> dany: there are kubuntu notes here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3692aaaed415e3427f54ec62dd8659474516b525
[08:38] <ninjagambit> ok i thought i had a  whole group of unrully hackers after my pc
[08:38] <ninjagambit> lol
[08:38] <ninjagambit> they wouldnt get much
[08:38] <ardchoille> dany: I don't think I'll be much help because I've never done any upgrades
[08:38] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: well, in a way there is, after any ip, much of the time.
[08:39] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: most tools go after c-net at a time.
[08:40] <dany> ardchoille: i mean.. i'll need ur help in order to reinstall my system if something goes wrong
[08:40] <ardchoille> dany: Oh, ok.
[08:40] <dany> ardchoille: haha
[08:40] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: there is so much random knocking that the only thing getting alerted every time does is raises you blood pressure.
[08:40] <Stevethepirate> Tm_T: any progress/ solutions for my wifi card?
[08:41] <ninjagambit> im ok with hackers as long as they dont destroy my  pc
[08:41] <Tm_T> Stevethepirate: nope, sorry, I don't have time currently to investigate it
[08:41] <Stevethepirate> Lol, np
[08:41] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: that's a pity.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:42]  * ActionParsnip waves
[08:42] <ninjagambit> lynoure: whats a pity
[08:42] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: I'd wish people would not want others to use their connections for attacking yet more machines.
[08:43] <ninjagambit> they use my connection
[08:43] <ninjagambit> ?
[08:43] <ninjagambit> i dont know much about hackers
[08:43] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: that's what they commonly want to do: use your connection for attacking others or spamming people
[08:43] <ninjagambit> i just like to surf the net in peace and watch cool vids
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> me too ninjagambit, hence linux :D
[08:44] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: Then don't worry too much, and keep your system up to date, and you'll probably be fine :)
[08:44] <ninjagambit> but recently i am dabbling with a little xhtml and css
[08:44] <sub[t]rnl> greets ActionParsnip
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> lo sub[t]rnl
[08:44] <ninjagambit> so i am more interested in security
[08:44] <ninnghizidha> how to block join/left-messages in xchat?
[08:44] <ninjagambit> just for educational purposes
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit, not sure. let me google
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> "/SET irc_conf_mode 1
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> without the "
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=12571&highlight=&sid=c0a63a7c2176b449bc335ca4ad666efa
[08:47] <Lynoure> ninjagambit: That's good. :)
[08:47] <ninjagambit> if anyone wants can they go to the apple store then go to mac os x tour and download the large video to see what speed  it is downloading
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> apple is overpriced
[08:48] <ninjagambit> i would like to know if im crippled
[08:49] <ninjagambit> compaired  to?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> speed per dollar
[08:50] <ninjagambit> from what i can tell not much more than simular build of xps
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> the OS is nice but the hardware is really pricey
[08:50] <ardchoille> !ot
[08:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:50] <ninjagambit> and had better hardware
[08:51] <ninjagambit> but the xps had a few  feature i realy liked like dual hdd with raid
[08:51] <ninjagambit> nice for a laptop
[08:51] <ninjagambit> not for most
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu on eee pc is tasty and cheaper
[08:51] <Stevethepirate> "Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card" <-- this (k)ubuntu compatible?
[08:52] <ninjagambit> i will check out the eee i have heard alot about  it
[08:52] <ardchoille> Stevethepirate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, what chip is on it?
[08:52] <mykrisuser> help
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit, its a 130 quid lappy weighing less than a pound
[08:52] <ninjagambit> but  kinda got my heart set on overpriced over built for my needs macbook pro
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> mykrisuser, wassup?
[08:53] <ninjagambit> lesss than a pound
[08:53] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: Please take the OS price/comparison to #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit, save cash and you can buy beer :D
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> mykrisuser, what's your issue?
[08:54] <ninjagambit> smaller than my sell  phone
[08:54] <ninjagambit> cell
[08:54] <ninjagambit> sorry its late
[08:54] <ninjagambit> my fingers going faster than my mind
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: thats the problem
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> its on a dell
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> so i have NFC what the chipset is
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, what dell you got?
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> On order.
[08:55] <ninjagambit> im sorry ardchoille wasnt trying to get into a os price/comparison
[08:55] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: about to order a Inspiron 1720
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621617
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, looks ok to me
[08:57] <ninjagambit> but just so you know whatever system i get i will be booting in kubuntu  too
[08:57] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: as in. it should work?
[08:57] <ninjagambit> ;-)
[08:57] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: thats not my wireless
[08:57] <Stevethepirate> I'm getting Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, Intel is the manufacturer, thats all dell will tell you cos usually dell people dont care what is in their systems
[09:00] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, but -will that work- with ubuntu wireles?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, just found one with Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, i'd say so yes. either that or just use ndiswrapper and it will be fine
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, dell do a ubuntu option anyway now. Get them to supply it
[09:01] <Stevethepirate> Not in SA
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, save you paying for winslows
[09:02] <Stevethepirate> No Ubuntu option here :(
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, if you dig further you may find it
[09:02] <Cold_Inz> Hi, when installing nvidia drivers and updating kernel and blabla, the kernel images starts to add up on the grub bootscreen, how do I remove the unused ones ? just simply delete them from /boot ?
[09:02] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: i've asked them..
[09:02] <Stevethepirate> phonecall
[09:02] <Stevethepirate> to tech support
[09:02] <jrsims> so when are thinkpads shipping with linux?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, bah
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> Wait.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> jrsims, they do in the uk if you ask nicely. Its a pain tofind
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> I was talking to a semi-retarded dude.
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> Let me ask them..
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> again.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> http://www.dell.com/open
[09:03] <ninjagambit> why dont you defrag your hard  drive in linux
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> Server Error in '/LT' Application.
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> The resource cannot be found.
[09:03] <Stevethepirate> Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> Requested Url: /lt/(S(oh0g0245fh2vkwrv3vm4g555))/lt.aspx
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> Oops
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> My bad
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> !paste > Stevethepirate
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> soz peeps
[09:04] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: that link fails.
[09:05] <Stevethepirate> Google cache ++
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, any better
[09:05] <Stevethepirate> Well.
[09:05] <Stevethepirate> I have to phone
[09:06] <Stevethepirate> Watch them give me the whole "3d world country" bs.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, just google for dell linux, hit i'm feeling lucky. then dell and ubuntu at the left
[09:06] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[09:06] <Stevethepirate> I know about that
[09:07] <Stevethepirate> But I'm ordering into South Africa.
[09:07] <Stevethepirate> So its like
[09:07] <Stevethepirate> fail.
[09:07] <Cold_Inz> Hi, when installing nvidia drivers and updating kernel and blabla, the kernel images starts to add up on the grub bootscreen, how do I remove the unused ones ? just simply delete them from /boot ?
[09:07] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[09:08] <Stevethepirate> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:08] <Stevethepirate> Rather comment them out
[09:08] <Stevethepirate> than delete
[09:09] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: Dont simply delete old kernels.. use the package manager to remove them, but it's a good idea to keep the last two.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, dont use sudo to gedit. use gksu
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> hahah the owner of dell uses ubuntu on his dell lappy
[09:10] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: if off commandline
[09:10] <Stevethepirate> michael dell.. indeed
[09:10] <ardchoille> Stevethepirate: Use gksu or kdesu to launch a gui app regardless of launching fro cli or a gui
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, if you are running gui apps (gedit etc) use gksu
[09:11] <ardchoille> s/fro/from/
[09:11] <ardchoille> !gksu
[09:11] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, if you are running CLI commands (like cp, mv etc) use sudo
[09:11] <Stevethepirate> Hmm.
[09:11] <Stevethepirate> What environment screw ups can it make?
[09:12] <ardchoille> Stevethepirate: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:12] <Stevethepirate> Will do.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, permissions on files etc
[09:12] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: did you hear about the n00b that tried to wine Norton?
[09:12] <Stevethepirate> was such luls
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, you are kidding!!
[09:13] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: naught.
[09:14] <Stevethepirate> he asked if anyone could help him..
[09:14] <Stevethepirate> for about 3 hours
[09:14] <Stevethepirate> on another server.
[09:14] <Stevethepirate> Was the first time i'd ever seen someone get kicked off a linux channel.
[09:14] <Stevethepirate> For a non-direct-against-the-rules offence
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> thats hilarious man
[09:15] <Lynoure> I hope they explained he did not need it, and didn't just kick him.
[09:15] <Stevethepirate> No.
[09:15] <Stevethepirate> They did
[09:15] <Stevethepirate> but he was -so- adamant that he wanted Norton
[09:16]  * ActionParsnip laughs so hard he crys
[09:16] <Lynoure> I can see reasons for wanting to run Norton on Wine, by the way. E.g. if one wants to support it for Windows user but does not get any closer to Windows than absolutely necessary
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen/client/en/ubuntu_landing?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs
[09:17]  * Stevethepirate clicks
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, does that work?
[09:17] <Stevethepirate> YEah, read that off google cache a while ago
[09:17] <Stevethepirate> I told you so.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, 329 quid for a smart lappy, not bad
[09:19] <helloyo> anyone know how to improve video playback? i think the issue is with X
[09:19] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: its R15k here.. ZAR
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, is that good?
[09:20] <Stevethepirate> For our market its not bad
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, you considered an EEE PC?
[09:20] <Stevethepirate> I mean. Core 2 Duo, 2.4ghz, 3 gigs DDR2 667RAM, 2x160 gig HDD, dvd writer, 8600m gt.
[09:20] <mikkael> the kdesudo part in systemsettings/kcontrol is broken in haredy (which is already reported in launchpad). i need to access the kdm settings, what would be the kcmshell command to launch this with kdesu ?
[09:20] <mikkael> *hardy
[09:21] <Lynoure> No Ubuntu option in Finnish Dell yet :/
[09:21] <Stevethepirate> No option here in SA>
[09:21] <Stevethepirate> Although.. i can see why
[09:21] <ardchoille> mikkael: Try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> how come the uk is so small but we get stuff like that before you guys?
[09:21] <Stevethepirate> Some idiot will buy a Dell with ubuntu to save like R1500 and will be pissed
[09:21] <Stevethepirate> so they might have disabled that option.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, depends what you wanna use your pc for
[09:22] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, but for the average person...
[09:22] <Stevethepirate> ubuntu is > them
[09:22] <Stevethepirate> when you recommeneded a eee, you mean the asus eee?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, how so?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, yeah if you just wanna chat and browse
[09:22] <mikkael> well how is the module called where i can set kdm settings ?
[09:22] <Stevethepirate> For most people. In our country especially.
[09:23] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip , Stevethepirate I fail to understand how this conversation is a kubuntu issue.
[09:23] <ardchoille> !info kdmtheme hardy
[09:23] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 37 kB, installed size 184 kB
[09:23] <Stevethepirate> ardchoille: we'll ching-chong-cha you if we can stay? :P
[09:23] <hojor> '
[09:24] <mikkael> nevermind, its just called kdm .. kcmshell --list ;)
[09:24] <ardchoille> Stevethepirate: You can stay here, but the ot chat should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:25] <ninjagambit> hey steve open that up anyways ill chat about some off topic stuff
[09:25] <ninjagambit> with ya
[09:25] <r33d> Hey guys I was messing around with trying to resize my linux ext3 partition, it messed up grub (i dual boot ubuntu + win xp) and made grubh pop up an error, I used a live cd to mount the drive and fix the config i basically ran grub-install again, and that made the grub menu pop up on boot and made win xp bootable but the linux partition now says Error: 17 cannot mount selected partition i believe this is because the partition letters have changed / was
[09:25] <ninjagambit> im just waiting on a download to finish
[09:25] <ninjagambit> and reading the chat
[09:25] <ninjagambit> i wana talk some more about the mac
[09:25] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: pm
[09:25] <Stevethepirate> ardchoille: yeah it was a joke.
[09:34] <PyTBEH> Hi to all!
[09:35] <luke> hi, how do I burn a CD image to a DVD?
[09:35] <luke> with K3b :)
[09:35] <omar_> Hello ppl?
[09:35] <omar_> I have a problem with my kubuntu
[09:36] <luke> omar: what is wrong?
[09:36] <omar_> I just installed it but the adept installer doesn't work properly.
[09:37] <luke> if you want to install stuff the safest way is to use apt-get in terminal
[09:38] <omar_> Only selected (installed) stuff are selectable
[09:38] <luke> run konsole, type sudo apt-get -f install
[09:38] <luke> if it's dependency problems that usually fixes it
[09:39] <omar_> and how do I add new software sources?
[09:39] <omar_> what sources should I add?
[09:39] <luke> edit sources.list
[09:40] <luke> you only really need the ones you already have, but some of them are probably commented out
[09:40] <luke> do you want my sources.list?
[09:40] <omar_> please
[09:40] <luke> let me just pastebin it...
[09:41] <luke> http://pastebin.com/m3273f004
[09:41] <omar_> thanks
[09:41] <luke> sorry, I didn't select it all, lol
[09:41] <luke> http://pastebin.com/d36168e97
[09:42] <luke> there
[09:49] <sagacious> Can anyone reccomend me a channel for setting up my linux box as a router?
[09:50] <finek> no it will be spam ;p
[09:52] <emilsedgh> sagacious: #linux ?
[09:56] <CrypTom> Hi all: I would like to use java 2 micro edition on kubuntu. I've already installed the sun-java6 packages. Is there a deb package for microedition?
[09:58] <finek> CrypTom: maybe in multiverse
[09:58] <CrypTom> finek: I've added the multiverse repo, but theres no sign of the micro edition... at least, its not called sun-java6-me or similar
[09:59] <Tm_T> CrypTom: micro edition is...
[09:59] <finek> so there is no microedition
[10:00] <acemo> i accidently formatted the wrong partition with windows setup, this quick format doesnt removes the data, it just marks it as being empty.. is there any way to tell the partition to be ext3 withouth formatting it?
[10:00] <CrypTom> Tm_T: ?
[10:00] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[10:01] <Tm_T> CrypTom: what is this "micro edition" exactly?
[10:01] <CrypTom> Tm_T: java edition for mobile phone programming
[10:01] <CrypTom> Tm_T: also called j2me (instead of j2se)
[10:02] <Tm_T> aah
[10:02] <Tm_T> CrypTom: no, it's not there, except for perhaps in sdk package
[10:03] <zorglu_> q. what is the package to install to get all the usual compilation stuff ? i remember there is one, but dont remember the name
[10:04] <ardchoille> zorglu_: build-essential
[10:04] <zorglu_> ardchoille: thanks
[10:05] <Jay-Oh-En> does anybody know how to make every startup use text instead of image loading
[10:05] <CrypTom> Tm_T, finek: so, is it possible to combine the downloaded (from java.sun.com) binary with the installed sun-java6-sdk package?
[10:06] <Tm_T> no idea
[10:06] <Jay-Oh-En> like instead of kubuntu image with loading bar
[10:06] <Jay-Oh-En> i want text
[10:06] <finek> try it
[10:06] <Tm_T> CrypTom: but should be I assume
[10:06] <Tm_T> Jay-Oh-En: sure, /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:07] <CrypTom> Jay-Oh-En: edit /boot/grub/menu.list and remove "quiet" and "splash"
[10:07] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst with  "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"  and remove the word "splash" from your kernel line.
[10:07] <Tm_T> Jay-Oh-En: edit entries and defaults for future enteries
[10:07] <Tm_T> meh
[10:07] <Tm_T> guys, I started, don't interfere my sentences
[10:08] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: thanks
[10:08] <Jay-Oh-En> CrypTom: thanks
[10:08] <Tm_T> ardchoille: also, your turn to be overseer ;)
[10:08] <Tm_T> ->
[10:09] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Also, remove "splash" from : # defoptions=quiet splash
[10:10] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: ill edit it and ill upload it and you can tell me if i did it correctly
[10:11] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: ok
[10:11] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: what about queit?
[10:11] <Jay-Oh-En> quiet?
[10:12] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You can remove quiet, but it will give you lots and lots of info. Some find that annoying, but you can try it and see
[10:12] <Jay-Oh-En> ard nah ill try this one first
[10:14] <noaXess> hi all
[10:14] <noaXess> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[10:15] <Tm_T> !ubotu | noaXess
[10:15] <ubotu> noaXess: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:17] <FSHero> Hi all: i'm trying to allow any user on my Windows Vista computer access the windows partition of my Kubuntu Feisty computer: can anyone point me to a good how-to?
[10:17] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | FSHero
[10:17] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: http://pastebin.com/m6ebb12b9 look towards the bottom and tell me what i should delete cause those last three kernel entries aren't there anymore i removed that harddrive
[10:17] <ubotu> FSHero: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:17] <jussi01> oh, hangg on
[10:18] <FSHero> jussi01: Hehe, thanks, but I already know how to do that :)
[10:18] <jussi01> FSHero: you need to get it mounted like that, then use !samba to give him access to the mount point.
[10:18] <jussi01> !samba
[10:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:18] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: whats he trying to do
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:19] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: share the windows partition on his kubuntu machine with another machine with vista
[10:19] <Jay-Oh-En> oh dang
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: did you read it
[10:20] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You've removed the splash, good job. Are you sure your /dev/sda1 device is no longer in the machine?
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> yes
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> i took the sata out and cause it was 200gb
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> then i put in a 500gb ide
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> im going to put in the sata again to use it for extra storage for movies
[10:22] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Then you can remove lines 154 - 180
[10:22] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[10:22] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[10:23] <Jay-Oh-En> i made a backup of my old grub with this command
[10:24] <FSHero> The link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently describes mounting Windows shares into Kubuntu. How do I do this the other way round? I.e. export a folder in Kubuntu to my Windows Vista computer so that any user in Vista can read/write to the folder?
[10:24] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo cp /the/place/where/grubs/loacted.lst /the/place/where/grubs/loacted.backup
[10:24] <Jay-Oh-En> is that right (but with the right location)
[10:25] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: That made a backup, but I feel it's best to keep the filename.ext: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[10:26] <Jay-Oh-En> that is exactly the commands i did ardchoille
[10:26] <ardchoille> Good job :)
[10:26] <Jay-Oh-En> what if i wanted to bring the backup back sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.backup /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:27] <Jay-Oh-En> and can i remove other operating systems from grub also
[10:28] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille:
[10:28] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You'd first want to move the current menu.lst out of the way: sudo mv /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.temp && sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:30] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You'd first want to move the current menu.lst out of the way: sudo mv /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.temp && sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:30] <ardchoille> Sorry
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> lol
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> ok so ide make a temp
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> of the first one
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> a backup
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> and the current one
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> ok thanks
[10:30] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You just want to make sure you don't lose anything. you can always delete files later when everything is the way you want it.
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> ok well im restarting
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> brb
[10:33] <sigma_kubuntu> does anyone have problems using kaffeine on a laptop?
[10:33] <Jay-Oh-En> works but it was a bit ugly like the text was too big and there wasnt any color :[
[10:33] <gnagsuaton> Does anyone know, how i can reinstall the WLAN-module again? The Problem is, that i tried to patch the driver for my ipw2915. The patch removed some of the original modulefiles and so my wireless card is not recognized anymore... :(
[10:33] <Tm_T> sigma_kubuntu: what kind of problems?
[10:36] <sigma_kubuntu> Tim_T: wel lets say im watching a dvd in kaffeine and i open the drive while its playing. if i close kaffeine it wil neva open again and the display in ksysguard shows weird memory use numbers
[10:36] <Tm_T> mmmmgh, who's Tim?
[10:41] <botch> do you know where this setting can be reset? pressing my shift key two times make something similar to capslock
[10:41] <gnagsuaton> ActionParsnip, it doesnt work for me. http://paste.uni.cc/17837
[10:41] <botch> i don't like that behaviour. yesterday some dialog popped up and asked me something about that - i think i read to lazy through it an pressed OK
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> botch: read screens ALWAYS
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> botch, ok, is your kb layout ok?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> botch, you just get this shift button behaviour?
[10:41] <botch> yep
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> ok so when you press shift a few times you get caps
[10:42] <botch> i think this dialog popped up while i kept the shift button pressed for a longer period...
[10:42] <gnagsuaton> i found it... :)
[10:43] <botch> but a can't find anything suspicious in /etc/X11/*
[10:43] <botch> so i think it's something in my ~/.kde
[10:44] <botch> but a "grep shift -R .kde/*" didn't bring any hints
[10:44] <sigma_kubuntu> Jay-Oh-En: are u stil there?
[10:44] <Jay-Oh-En> yers
[10:44] <botch> also a grep for "lock"
[10:45] <Jay-Oh-En> sigma_kubuntu: oops sorry lol but anyways i tried and tried all night couldnt get the darn thing working
[10:45] <Jay-Oh-En> sigma_kubuntu: but it was the same laptop
[10:45] <Jay-Oh-En> lol
[10:45] <sigma_kubuntu> Jay-Oh-En: its a dell d600. how did u fix it?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> botch, just googling now
[10:45] <sigma_kubuntu> dam!
[10:46] <sigma_kubuntu> is it possible thats a kaffeine bug? so another media player should work
[10:47] <Jay-Oh-En> sigma_kubuntu: really yeah i think it is try installing amarok its the best ive used
[10:47] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:47] <Jay-Oh-En> and there is another one i like its futuristic looking
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> botch, i cant find anything. maybe someone else has seen this :(
[10:48] <botch> ActionParsnip: thank you anyway
[10:48] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo apt-get install audacious
[10:48] <Jay-Oh-En> sigma_kubuntu: read those what i just said
[10:49] <sigma_kubuntu> Jay-Oh-Eh: i use amarok but what do u recommend for video?
[10:51] <drbobb> hello
[10:51] <drbobb> has anyone else noticed the flash plugin is broken recently in gutsy for konqueror
[10:52] <drbobb> or could it be a problem with my setup?
[10:52] <BrOSs> ardchoille: man still there?
[10:52] <BrOSs> I need some help
[10:53] <BrOSs> !upgrade
[10:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:53] <ardchoille> BrOSs: I'm still here. what's up?
[10:53] <BrOSs> ardchoille: I'm dany.. remember?
[10:53] <ardchoille> Yes
[10:54] <BrOSs> well.. something is wrong
[10:54] <BrOSs> I wish i can't explain myself with my bad english but I will try
[10:54] <FSHero> Hello everyone: I was following the instructions on http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=510 to share a folder from a Kubuntu computer to a Windows computer. However, when I try to access \\kubuntu-comp\MyShare it asks for a username and password.
[10:54] <BrOSs> the thing is.. that when the updates finished to be downloaded  i rebooted my system
[10:55] <FSHero> What do I type in?
[10:55] <BrOSs> and it logs like console mode
[10:55] <BrOSs> i cant log in like graphic interface
[10:56] <BrOSs> is stock in the console mode
[10:56] <ardchoille> BrOSs: Sounds to me like a problem with xorg. But, as I mentioned before, I don't do upgrades so I cannot effectively help you with it.
[10:56] <flake> kde4 is out?
[10:57] <botch> flake: no
[10:57] <ardchoille> !kde4 | flake
[10:57] <ubotu> flake: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[10:57] <botch> release candidate 2
[10:57] <flake> oh, sorry
[10:57] <BrOSs> well im going to read something about it.. I still have a winxp running machine
[10:57] <BrOSs> =/
[10:59] <drbobb> well, no comments re: the flash plugin?
[11:00] <BrOSs> Most of the times a reconfiguration of the xserver-xorg package will be enough. To do so issue the following command:
[11:00] <BrOSs>   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:00] <BrOSs> ardchoille: I found an answer !.. thks man
[11:01] <FSHero> I'm looking at /etc/samba/smb.conf; are lines with a semicolon in front commented-out lines?
[11:05] <jussi01> drbobb: read /topic ?
[11:05] <jussi01> !flashissues | drbobb
[11:05] <ubotu> drbobb: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[11:23] <johan__> hello
[11:23] <johan__> any1 here?
[11:23] <finek> hi
[11:23] <johan__> complete ubuntu noob, can any1 give some advice pls
[11:24] <finek> =___=
[11:24] <johan__> lol....
[11:24] <johan__> that a yes?
[11:24] <finek> ask
[11:24] <finek> dont tell everyone tht ur noob
[11:25] <johan__> had mu usb wifi and sound working hundreds but now both stopped 4 no reason, and im confused
[11:25] <johan__> im not computer noob, gotta bsc in it, but used 2 windoze
[11:26] <finek> reinstall
[11:26] <finek> ;[
[11:26] <johan__> not even showin wireless network in knetworkmanager
[11:26] <johan__> REINSTALL?!?!?!?!
[11:26] <johan__> surely there another way :[
[11:27] <flaccid> do they come up in sudo iwconfig eth1 list
[11:28] <flaccid> if eth1 is your iface name for example
[11:28] <johan__> eth1 works fine
[11:28] <flaccid> eth1 is the wireless?
[11:28] <johan__> no wlan0 was
[11:29] <flaccid> sudo iwlist wlan eth1 scanning
[11:29] <flaccid> sorry thats what you want
[11:29] <johan__> yeah i wanna get wlan0 up and runnung again
[11:29] <flaccid> if you can scan with that, you probably have done something explicit in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:29] <flaccid> pastebin that please
[11:29] <johan__> ok
[11:30] <johan__> wait, passte wat?
[11:32] <johan__> ok, did sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning and got:
[11:33] <johan__> wlan0     Scan completed :
[11:33] <johan__>           Cell 01 - Address: 00:13:F7:28:A1:F0
[11:33] <johan__>                     ESSID:"SMC"
[11:33] <johan__>                     Mode:Master
[11:33] <johan__>                     Channel:6
[11:33] <johan__>                     Frequency:2.437 GHz
[11:33] <johan__>                     Signal level=-44 dBm
[11:33] <johan__>                     Encryption key:off
[11:33] <johan__>                     Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
[11:33] <johan__>                               12 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
[11:33] <johan__>                               48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
[11:33] <johan__>                     Extra:tsf=0000000d19211865
[11:33] <johan__> does that help
[11:33] <johan__> flaccid?
[11:34] <flaccid> yes but you must use pastebin
[11:34] <flaccid> !pastebin | johan__
[11:34] <ubotu> johan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:34] <flaccid> i would like you to pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:36] <johan__> ok gimme a mo
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> ...
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> ff
[11:37] <johan__> pastebin gives me: You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check
[11:38] <johan__> and now?
[11:38] <jari> hi
[11:38] <johan__> hi jari
[11:38] <flaccid> enable javascript in your browser johan or use a dif pastebin that doesn't need it
[11:38] <jari> how can I release the program that is using the sound card so that no other program can use it?
[11:39] <johan__> under komqueror configure i got javascript enabled globally
[11:40] <flaccid> use a diff pastebin, maybe pastebin.ca will work for you there are many in google
[11:42] <Jay-Oh-En> how come everytime i move a icon my desktop icons blink?
[11:43] <johan__> pastebin.ca is blank.... feelin rather stupid here..lol
[11:44] <flaccid> google another pastebin
[11:44] <johan__> thats what im doin
[11:44] <flaccid> sounds like you have problems but. at least with konq..
[11:44] <johan__> its very slow but
[11:49] <johan__> ok, my scanning on http://pastebin.com/m2e4b6694
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> how come everytime i move a icon my desktop icons blink?
[11:50] <Stevethepirate> Someone has put on a flipping irritating theme?
[11:51] <johan__> interfaces on: http://pastebin.com/m5cafd632
[11:51] <johan__> flaccid, that helps?
[11:52] <drbobb> re flash: the plugin install was broken for a while, failing with a md5 mismatch for the package d/l'd from adobe
[11:53] <johan__> any ideas?
[11:53] <drbobb> but now it's different, the plugin does install but it fails to run
[11:53] <johan__> wlan0 not even showing up
[11:54] <drbobb> i get a nspluginviewer segfault on every page that has flash embedded
[11:54] <johan__> can any1 help me sort out my wifi in kubuntu?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> johan__, what wifi card do you have?
[11:55] <johan__> canyon usb
[11:56] <johan__> it worked fine then just stopped
[11:56] <johan__> not even showing up in knetworkmanager anymore!
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> johan__, what do you get from ifconfig?
[11:57] <johan__> and im stumped!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> johan__, can you paste the output from ifconfig
[11:59] <johan__> action: pasted on http://pastebin.com/m5450fdf
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> johan__, ok so its detected. What is in /etc/networking/interfaces
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: just so you know you can type "action" then press tab and his name will pop up
[12:01] <johan__> thx Jay-Oh-En
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En, I love autocomplete :D
[12:01] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: me too
[12:01] <[ifr0g]> !ipod
[12:01] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:01] <johan__> ActionParsnip: interfaces on http://pastebin.com/m5cafd632
[12:01] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: use sudo kate /etc/networking/interfaces
[12:02] <Jay-Oh-En> im guessing your not a newbie
[12:02] <johan__> Jay-Oh-En: im a semi ;)
[12:03] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: your like me im 3 or 4 mounths using linux
[12:03] <johan__> exactly. gotta B.Sc in computers but that was windoze
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En, use kdesu for gui apps
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> johan__, me to in Computer communications :D
[12:04] <johan__> ActionParsnip: u noticed anythin there yet?
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: but thats not gui
[12:04] <johan__> i did programming
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: here ill take a look to
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En, kate uses the gui
[12:04] <johan__> Jay-Oh-En: paste it here? :-{
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> oh
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En, commands like cp, apt etc do notr
[12:05] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: well what would it hurt to use sudo
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> johan__, if you add your wifi info in that file you can config it that way :)
[12:05] <johan__> ActionParsnip: gonna need ur help there! :'(
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> johan__, i'd move the auto wlan0 to above iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:05] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip :does ubuntu support turbocache?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> johan__, do you use wep / wpa at all?
[12:06] <johan__> mo wep or wap no
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate, no idea man, sorry
[12:06] <Jay-Oh-En> btw where do you guys live
[12:06] <johan__> me durbs
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En, UK, Leeds, West Yorkshire
[12:06] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: i live in las vegas
[12:06] <johan__> ActionParsnip: so copy the wlan block ahead of eth1?
[12:07] <johan__> durban, south africa
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> johan__, yeah
[12:07] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: whooo far from me
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> johan__, and add wireless-mode managed
[12:07] <johan__> lemme givit a shot
[12:07] <Jay-Oh-En> alot of africans use linux. is its because its free?
[12:07] <johan__> ActionParsnip: take it slowly here lol.. add it where?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> johan__, wireless-essid XXXXXXX
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> johan__, add it below the inet wlan0 stuff
[12:08] <johan__> i run dualboot vista(aarrgh!) and ubuntu, just to learn it
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> johan__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: lol i was jk
[12:08]  * ActionParsnip hates vista
[12:08] <flaccid> sorry johan looking now
[12:09] <johan__> and i suppose my ssid (SMC) goes in place of the XXXXXXX ?
[12:09] <Stevethepirate> Although DX10 is not possibly native for linux, can one get HD output from a HD movie on linux ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> johan__, yeah
[12:09] <flaccid> johan__: take out last two lines, reboot and you will have user knetworkmanager back
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> johan__, if you look at that site you'll get a flavour of what you should have
[12:09] <johan__> johan__ hates windoze
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> johan__, once you've added it all save and exit then reboot
[12:10] <johan__> ok wait, gettin conflicting info here, flaccid say remove, ActionParsnip say add... confused
[12:10] <flaccid> indeed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> johan__, I'm getting you to manually config your wifi
[12:11] <johan__> can i use a lifeline?
[12:11] <johan__> lol
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> johan__, if this doesnt work we'll remove the lines
[12:11] <flaccid> the scanning will come back in knetworkmanager after you have done what i suggested
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> johan__, but manual config seems to make stuff work :D
[12:11] <flaccid> you may not need to reboot if you restart network/manager
[12:11] <flaccid> nah its because wpa_supplicant & networkmanager
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, just makes it easier than ifup / ifdown for newsb
[12:12] <johan__> ok, lets do the "may not resboot" one first.....
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, is that what that is?
[12:12] <flaccid> no manual configuration is required ActionParsnip with knetworkmanager. the last two lines are taking out the scanning
[12:12] <johan__> remove the last 2 lines of which one?
[12:12]  * ActionParsnip hands over to flaccid
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> I just prefer to manually configure so I know its right :)
[12:13] <flaccid> see /etc/network/interfaces is a bit more complex for wpa and takes out your scanning
[12:13] <flaccid> well you know its right with secure wireless if you get to the ip config stage of knetworkmanager
[12:13] <johan__> take out last 2 lines of interfaces?
[12:13] <flaccid> last 2 stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces johan__
[12:13]  * Jay-Oh-En likes to manually configure also since his static ip setup doesn't work very well with knetworkmanager
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, he has no security :)
[12:14] <flaccid> take out iface wlan0 inet dhcp and auto wlan0
[12:14] <flaccid> thats only 1 access point
[12:14] <johan__> ActionParsnip: dont need security on wireless at the mo
[12:14] <flaccid> and no security is not a good practice
[12:15] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: how far does your neighbor live from you
[12:15] <flaccid> but this is not about that. you need to do this to get scanning back
[12:15] <flaccid> regardless of what ap wanted to connect to
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, its ok if you hide ssid and mac filter ;)
[12:15] <johan__> Jay-Oh-En: bout a kilometre
[12:15] <bin4ry> hey together
[12:15] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: thats why you dont need security
[12:15] <flaccid> not really, they made wpa for a reason
[12:15] <johan__> exactly, and hes got no computer
[12:16] <bin4ry> some1 gotta help me with enlightenment desktop (e17), i just cant figure out in which category firefox is located?!?
[12:16] <flaccid> wardriving *cough*
[12:16] <johan__> lolololololol
[12:16] <johan__> its bad practise i know, but hey
[12:16]  * johan__ gonna remove 2 lines now
[12:16] <flaccid> anyway you can /etc/init.d/networking restart after that
[12:18] <johan__> ok, no permission 2 change. where i change 2 give write permission?
[12:18] <flaccid> do a kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[12:18] <flaccid> or sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces
[12:20] <johan__> ok managed 2 change, now?
[12:21] <flaccid> [23:16] <flaccid> anyway you can /etc/init.d/networking restart after that
[12:21] <johan__> command in terminal?
[12:21] <flaccid> //etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:21] <flaccid> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, does that require sudo?
[12:21] <flaccid> yeah
[12:22] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:22] <flaccid> sorry
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, i got your back man
[12:22] <flaccid> thanks mate
[12:22]  * ActionParsnip smiles
[12:22] <johan__> thats what i thought.. right, so i will be disconnected 4 a while right?
[12:22] <flaccid> maybe
[12:22]  * genii wanders in and puts on a pot of coffee
[12:22] <johan__> lets c
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> genii, can I have a cup please
[12:23] <Jay-Oh-En> genii: everytime i see you writing something its about coffee
[12:23] <johan__> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. ??????
[12:23] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: I drink quite a lot of it
[12:23] <johan__> thats what i got
[12:23]  * ActionParsnip looks cute and makes a "wants coffee noise"
[12:23]  * genii slides ActionParsnip a large strong coffee
[12:23]  * ActionParsnip looks mega happy
[12:23]  * Jay-Oh-En dumps sugar in it
[12:23] <flaccid> that might right
[12:24] <johan__> so now?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> cat grats > /usr/genii
[12:24] <flaccid> might be right. now restart knetworkmanager
[12:24] <genii> unknown interface means it's not in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[12:24] <johan__> in gui?
[12:24] <flaccid> right click on it and see if it can see the networks now
[12:24] <johan__> AHA!
[12:24] <johan__> it does!
[12:25] <Jay-Oh-En> johan__: shhh youll wake the sleeping people
[12:25]  * genii jolts awake and sips his coffee
[12:25] <flaccid> so, do i win?
[12:25] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: only a little
[12:25]  * ActionParsnip still thinks manual config is better
[12:25] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: jk
[12:25]  * Jay-Oh-En thinks ActionParsnip
[12:26] <flaccid> a manual config would defeat the whole purpose of the networking implementation by ubuntu
[12:26] <Jay-Oh-En> is right
[12:26] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: then can you help me?
[12:26] <Jay-Oh-En> :]
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, the implementation is simple but the actual file itself is so easy to manually edit. I can see your point though
[12:26] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: ah never mind ill stick to my manual setup
[12:27] <Johan___> ok, this is on wifi
[12:27] <Jay-Oh-En> Johan___: nice
[12:27] <flaccid> well wireless is a user thing not a root thing usually... particularl when its a notebook for example
[12:27] <Johan___> thanks alot...... but what wouldve caused thar?
[12:27] <flaccid> those two lines
[12:28] <flaccid> its a long story why...
[12:28] <Johan___> yeah i know, but which app put them there?
[12:28]  * Jay-Oh-En needs some coffee and sugar and milk :]
[12:28] <flaccid> could of been the manual config in kde or system settings or kcontrol or wherever...
[12:28]  * genii puts a dab of coffee into Jay-Oh-En's milk and sugar and hands it to him
[12:29] <Johan___> which brings me 2 my second prob.. sound disappeared!!! :'(
[12:29] <Johan___> envy24
[12:29] <flaccid> the reason why it doesn't scan is because its been set explicit in the network interfaces, but wireless requires association so it can't get to the ip config stage. there is a few other reasons too. imo it should still scan and overide if user has perms to the iface
[12:30] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install a theme for theme manager and how do i install a login screen
[12:30] <Jay-Oh-En> !sound
[12:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:31] <Jay-Oh-En> !theme
[12:31] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:31] <Jay-Oh-En> !theme-manager
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theme-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <Jay-Oh-En> ugh
[12:32] <Jay-Oh-En> I'm gonna go make a gallon of cinnamon coffee
[12:32] <Johan___> my sound WAS workin tho
[12:33] <Jay-Oh-En> Johan___: try restarting your comp
[12:33] <Johan___> tried that be4
[12:33] <flaccid> restart artsd
[12:33] <flaccid> or kill it perhaps
[12:33] <Johan___> restarting
[12:33] <Jay-Oh-En> stab yourself in the leg then
[12:33] <Johan___> restart artsd?
[12:33] <Jay-Oh-En> system settigns
[12:34] <Johan___> Jay-Oh-En:  pass the knife
[12:34] <Johan___> k-menu then?
[12:34] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: help him im trying to do my own thigns
[12:34]  * Johan___ blushes
[12:35] <flaccid> yeah um i think need to send it a sighup as its not a system service
[12:35] <flaccid> Johan do a killall artsd
[12:35] <flaccid> first
[12:35] <flaccid> after closing all apps that use sound
[12:36] <Johan___> alrighty done
[12:36] <Johan___> gettin m ylinux book back again tonite.. woohoo!
[12:36] <flaccid> now try sound in app
[12:37] <Johan___> no sound stil
[12:37] <flaccid> ok
[12:37] <Johan___> typed killall artsd in console
[12:38] <Johan___> played flv file that worked be4
[12:38] <Johan___> silence
[12:38] <Jay-Oh-En> try playing a mp3 first
[12:38] <Johan___> k
[12:38] <flaccid> or wav
[12:38] <Jay-Oh-En> hordly anybody uses wav anymore
[12:39] <Jay-Oh-En> hardly*
[12:39] <finek> no dziala
[12:39] <flaccid> lol thats not true.
[12:39] <Jay-Oh-En> atleast i know i dont
[12:39] <flaccid> you also need a codec for mp3 which is restricted. another variable to test
[12:39] <flaccid> test from command line using aplay /path/to/file.wav
[12:39] <flaccid> eg. aplay /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav
[12:41] <flaccid> i guess we could all do aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Notify.wav
[12:41] <Johan___> silence
[12:41] <flaccid> or aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[12:41] <flaccid> ok but it works right?
[12:42] <Johan___> yep, says playing but hear nothing
[12:42] <flaccid> ok now check alsamixer and kmix that the required channels or not muted and turned up
[12:42] <flaccid> or=are
[12:42] <d0zer> can someone tell me how i can get python 2.5 on kubuntu ?
[12:43] <flaccid> i think 2.5x is in gutsy
[12:43] <flaccid> !info python2.5
[12:43] <ubotu> python2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 2801 kB, installed size 10092 kB
[12:43] <d0zer> hmm.. how can i install it ?
[12:43] <flaccid> do you know how to install a package?
[12:44] <d0zer> yep
[12:44] <flaccid> install the package python2.5
[12:44] <d0zer> dpkg --purge right ?
[12:44] <d0zer> :)
[12:44] <d0zer> its not on the list
[12:44] <d0zer> i only get 2.4 packages
[12:44] <flaccid> however see above how it is important.. its is probably already installed
[12:44] <flaccid> which version of ubuntu you on
[12:45] <d0zer> kubuntu.. 7.10 gutsy
[12:45] <d0zer> when i try to install envy i get errors saying it miss python 2.5
[12:45] <flaccid> you might need to update your repos
[12:45] <d0zer> w0rd
[12:45] <flaccid> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install python2.5
[12:45] <d0zer> its a fresh install
[12:45] <flaccid> !envy
[12:45] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:46] <flaccid> you get restricted-manager-kde so you don't need it anyway
[12:46] <Johan___> if i mute/unmute in kmix i can hear it in soeaker, but nothing playin
[12:47] <Johan___> speaker
[12:47] <blackflag> can someone tell me what is "RAW- IP"
[12:48] <blackflag> ?
[12:48] <Johan___> what can cause that?
[12:49] <flaccid> not sure
[12:49] <blackflag> !raw-ip
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw-ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <Johan___> gonns try a restart
[12:51] <d0zer> weird.. i dont have the restricted driver manager in kde it seems
[12:54] <khaije1> anyone know if there is a way to add normalization to my music collection?
[12:54] <Jay-Oh-En> d0zer: its should be in advenced tab
[12:54] <Jay-Oh-En> advanced
[12:54] <khaije1> i've heard of replaygain, but never used it... anyone?
[12:55] <Johan___> brb
[12:57] <flaccid> d0zer: kdesu restricted-manager-kde
[13:00] <johan__> ok restart sorted out sound
[13:00] <d0zer> flaccid : "Command 'restricted-manager-kde' not found." :/
[13:01] <flaccid> !info restricted-manager-kde
[13:01] <ubotu> restricted-manager-kde: manage non-free hardware drivers - KDE frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 288 kB
[13:01] <flaccid> sorry its optional, you can install it
[13:02] <johan__> had the wrong master channel in kmix *blush*
[13:02] <johan__> such a noob error
[13:02] <flaccid> ah yep usually have to set that to pcm or something
[13:03] <d0zer> flaccid : weird part is it cant find the restricted-manager-kde package
[13:03] <flaccid> need to enable restricted
[13:03] <flaccid> use adept_manager or do it manual
[13:03] <johan__> ok, somethin that REALLy confuses an (EX!!!!) windoze man is this..... how do u install programs? (sorry, if theres a gd site maybe)
[13:04] <flaccid> !adept
[13:04] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[13:05] <flaccid> !software | johan__
[13:05] <ubotu> johan__: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[13:10] <d0zer> flaccid : http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/restricted-manager
[13:10] <d0zer> but i dont have it in my package list, which is weird
[13:10] <d0zer> do i have to enable to repository or something ?
[13:10] <flaccid> yes enable restricted
[13:11] <d0zer> my sources.list has it uncommented.. i give up soon
[13:12] <flaccid> ok then issue a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde
[13:13] <d0zer> my list is uptodate.. its sad
[13:13] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: wouldnt he have to upgrade also
[13:13] <flaccid> just try that command and see what it says at the bottom
[13:13] <flaccid> the package is not installed so can't upgrade it yet
[13:13] <Jay-Oh-En> oh
[13:14] <dfaure> hmm, on feisty, librdf0-dev needs libdb4.3-dev but libsvn-dev needs libdb4.4-dev ... this means I have no way of installing both librdf0-dev and libsvn-dev ??
[13:14] <bucatoamano> kommander works in 64 bit system =
[13:14] <bucatoamano> ?
[13:14] <d0zer> Couldnt find package restricted-manager-kde
[13:15] <flaccid> pastebin your sources.list please d0zer
[13:17] <Jay-Oh-En> how come i cant install new kdm themes
[13:17] <Jay-Oh-En> :[
[13:17] <flaccid> dunno
[13:17] <d0zer> flaccid : http://pastebin.com/m131f81da
[13:17] <Jay-Oh-En> whats the command to start the kdm login manager
[13:18] <flaccid> Jay-Oh-En: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[13:18] <flaccid> hmm thats a wierd one d0zer. i'll make a new one
[13:19] <d0zer> i foundt out.. somehow it was using the dapper mirrors
[13:19] <Jay-Oh-En> its running already
[13:19] <d0zer> but my distro is gutsy..
[13:19] <Downix> Morning
[13:19] <Jay-Oh-En> i meant like open the control for it
[13:19] <Jay-Oh-En> in terminal
[13:19] <flaccid> d0zer: you have dapper in your repos...
[13:19] <flaccid> thats why. you might want to do this
[13:19] <Jay-Oh-En> so i can see the error when i try to install new kdm theme
[13:19] <flaccid> !source-o-matic | d0zer
[13:19] <ubotu> d0zer: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[13:20] <flaccid> i don't know what you mean Jay-Oh-En
[13:21] <Jay-Oh-En> when i try to install a kde theme from kcontrol at the systems and admin tab it just flashes then it doesnt show the new theme just installed flaccid thats what i mean
[13:21] <flaccid> ah ok. unfortunately i don't know about themes sorry
[13:21] <flaccid> um
[13:21] <Jay-Oh-En> well its a login theme
[13:21] <flaccid> oh
[13:22] <Jay-Oh-En> !kdm login manager
[13:23] <flaccid> in that case what you do is log out to kdm. then goto say alt+f2 then login, then issue sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop to stop the service then go back to tty then start it manually like this: /usr/bin/kdm -config /var/run/kdm/kdmrc
[13:23] <dfaure> ctrl+alt+f2, otherwise all you get with alt+f2 is minicli :)
[13:23] <flaccid> oh yeah
[13:23] <flaccid> left out the ctrl
[13:23] <flaccid> thanks dfaure
[13:23] <Jay-Oh-En> dang
[13:23] <Jay-Oh-En> how am i gonna remember that
[13:23] <d0zer> flaccid : how weird is it that i downloaded the newest kubuntu distro from their website today and the adept mirrors was set to dapper.. ?!?!?
[13:24] <flaccid> lol
[13:24] <Jay-Oh-En> !kdmtheme
[13:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:24] <flaccid> d0zer: i don't know what touched your sources.list but it doesn't look nice
[13:24] <d0zer> now alot of packages are broken after updating .. :/
[13:24] <Jay-Oh-En> d0zer: backup your files and start fresh :]
[13:25] <flaccid> yeah using wrong sources is not going to be good if you have done and package changes
[13:25] <flaccid> and=any
[13:25]  * sub[t]rnl huddles coffee
[13:25] <sub[t]rnl> morning
[13:26] <flaccid> Jay-Oh-En: show me what you want to install and i'll do it too. im a smarty pants heh
[13:26] <sub[t]rnl> running kdmtheme from konsole Jay-Oh-En?
[13:26] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: lol i just ran that right when you said that
[13:27] <sub[t]rnl> did it work?
[13:27] <Jay-Oh-En> but the command didnt work
[13:27] <sub[t]rnl> try kcmshell kdmtheme
[13:27] <Jay-Oh-En> that did tha trick
[13:29] <Jay-Oh-En> i think what i have to do is untar it before installing
[13:29] <Jay-Oh-En> nope
[13:29] <Jay-Oh-En> but whatever
[13:29] <flaccid> link me Jay-Oh-En
[13:29] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: ok
[13:29] <sub[t]rnl> I had to install my kdm theme by hand, check kde-look.org, go to kdmtheme's and read the installation howto
[13:30] <flaccid> !themes
[13:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[13:30] <flaccid> !changethemes
[13:30] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[13:30] <flaccid> but yeah show me and i'll work it out heh
[13:30] <Jay-Oh-En> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/swedish_sunset?content=67800
[13:31] <Jay-Oh-En> i never have to enter root password?
[13:32] <sub[t]rnl> newp, shouldn't
[13:33] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: are you trying
[13:33] <flaccid> yep
[13:33] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: i could tsend you all the theme files i downloaded
[13:33] <flaccid> you on gutsy ?
[13:34] <flaccid> i got it
[13:34] <flaccid> just give me a few
[13:34] <Jay-Oh-En> yes im on gutsy
[13:36] <flaccid> ok
[13:36] <Jay-Oh-En> are you going tyo accept those or no?
[13:36] <flaccid> no. i don't need them.
[13:36] <Jay-Oh-En> ill abort then
[13:36] <flaccid> i have a kdm them that you linked me to first
[13:37] <Jay-Oh-En> brb
[13:40] <flaccid> ok im going to test this login theme now
[13:41] <flaccid> just going to test this theme Jay-Oh-En brb
[13:41] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[13:41] <flaccid> all you do is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34131
[13:43] <flaccid> that didn't work for me...
[13:43] <robewald|work> hi, when i (require 'pycomlete) in my emacs i get Pymacs helper did not start within 30 seconds. What can I do?
[13:44] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid:install kde-kdm-themes
[13:44] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: and try to use true nature theme IT DOESNT WORK
[13:44] <Jay-Oh-En> god that makes me mad
[13:45] <flaccid> i kind of remember that ubuntu has bodged this
[13:46] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: should i purge and reinstall
[13:46] <Jay-Oh-En> if so whats the command
[13:46] <flaccid> no its to do with how they implemented kdm and gdm together and don't use the normal configs
[13:46] <flaccid> iirc
[13:46] <Jay-Oh-En> so what do i do
[13:46] <Jay-Oh-En> cause i have no login screen
[13:47] <Jay-Oh-En> its just a box with a blue background
[13:47] <flaccid> i can't remember
[13:47] <flaccid> but i've been in the same situation
[13:47] <Jay-Oh-En> ugh i wish you knew
[13:48] <flaccid> i just remember that they have done it non standard
[13:49] <Jay-Oh-En> autoremove isnt a command anymore?
[13:49] <Jay-Oh-En> i tried sudo autoremove kdmtheme
[13:49] <Jay-Oh-En> it said this sudo: autoremove: command not found
[13:50] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get autoremove kdmtheme
[13:50] <Jay-Oh-En> completely forgot im so tired
[13:50] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[13:50] <sub[t]rnl> that will get rid of dependencies and everything.
[13:50] <sub[t]rnl> what happened? why you ditching it?
[13:50] <flaccid> i don't see a point in giving up yet heh
[13:51] <Jay-Oh-En> i installed legit themes and it doesnt work
[13:51] <sub[t]rnl> how are you installing them?
[13:51] <Jay-Oh-En> not even the regular old themes
[13:51] <flaccid> report it as a bug and see what they do
[13:51] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo apt-get install kde-kdm-themes
[13:51] <sub[t]rnl> kdmthemes and kubuntu is a little tricky
[13:52] <Jay-Oh-En> all i have is a blue background and a box for me to login with
[13:52] <sub[t]rnl> if you find a theme you like, download it and untar it in your /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes direcotry
[13:52] <sub[t]rnl> then you can go into kcontrol -> kdmtheme and it will be there for selection
[13:52] <flaccid> im just going to restart x to try that
[13:52] <sub[t]rnl> kk
[13:52] <flaccid> i've untarred the theme and i manually changed  the standard config file and it didn't do anything..
[13:52] <flaccid> brb
[13:53] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: still doesnt work
[13:53] <Jay-Oh-En> i tried that before
[13:54] <flaccid> um so i restarted x after installing the kdethemes package and its not in kcontrol
[13:55] <flaccid> kdmthemes i mean
[13:55] <Jay-Oh-En> ?
[13:55] <Jay-Oh-En> what
[13:55] <flaccid> !info
[13:55] <flaccid> kde-kdm-themes
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <flaccid> !info kde-kdm-themes
[13:55] <ubotu> kde-kdm-themes: Themes for the K Display Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2007.01-1 (gutsy), package size 2359 kB, installed size 2636 kB
[13:56] <flaccid> hmm thats not the manager i guess
[13:56] <flaccid> whats the package for the kcmshell module ?
[13:56] <flaccid> KDM Theme Manager
[13:57] <sub[t]rnl> kcmshell is kdelibs4c2a
[13:57] <sub[t]rnl> kdmtheme
[13:57] <sub[t]rnl> might be the package your after
[13:57] <Jay-Oh-En> !info kdmtheme
[13:57] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB
[13:58] <flaccid> oh my bad
[13:58] <sub[t]rnl> I didn't get the theme to work either.  Its strange cause I am using the finger print scan login/ksplash screen, and have no idea how I got it to work
[13:58] <sub[t]rnl> :(
[13:58] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[13:58] <flaccid> thanks y0
[13:58] <peterpan_> how to make a partition access rights as only root can change or delete its contents. (wirte permision) and all others including me as username "log1" can only view the contents.
[13:58] <flaccid> i think ubuntu borked it..
[13:58] <flaccid> i remember going through this in the past
[13:58] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, I remember I had to do the run around to get it installed
[13:58] <sub[t]rnl> should have wrote down what I did
[13:58] <Jay-Oh-En> dang
[13:59] <flaccid> ok it looks like its because they use override files for a start
[14:00] <W8TAH> hi folks - -having trouble with gusty -- it does not want to show the splash screen during startup -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[14:00] <flaccid> could be debian entirely - please read : /usr/share/doc/kdm/README.Debian
[14:01] <flaccid> that will show us how to fix the override
[14:01] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: i dont feel like reading right now im tired and i have to go to school at 10:00am and its 6:01am i want to try to atleast get a nappy in
[14:01] <flaccid> hahaha
[14:02] <Jay-Oh-En> lol
[14:02] <Jay-Oh-En> hold on restarting X
[14:02] <sachak> hi room
[14:03] <Jay-Oh-En> it was working before i know that
[14:03] <Jay-Oh-En> but all of a sudden it isnt :[
[14:03] <sachak> i have a question for anyone that can help.
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> in your kdmrc
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> that hasta go :p
[14:03] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: what do i do?
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> change it to Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> or whatever direcotry that was
[14:04] <Jay-Oh-En> but i still dont know what file to open
[14:04] <flaccid> so UseTheme=true and Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/sweden_kdm in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[14:04] <W8TAH> sachak: just ask - -we'll help if we can
[14:04] <sachak> I have installed kubuntu 7.0.4 and i'm using a windows network in my office. I can see all the machines on the network but they can't see me ..wat can i do for them to see my kubuntu machine?
[14:04] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: yeah I think that might do it
[14:04] <flaccid> make sure not commented out
[14:05] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: so what do i do to fix this
[14:05] <flaccid> i just said it
[14:06] <Jay-Oh-En> but i still dont know what to do :p
[14:06] <Jay-Oh-En> :[
[14:06] <Jay-Oh-En> !pure
[14:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:06] <flaccid> ok kdetheme created me a /etc/default/kdm.d/30_kubuntu_default_settings
[14:06] <Jay-Oh-En> !pure kubuntu
[14:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pure kubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:06] <DjDarkman> hello, how can I turn on the booting to be fully verbose?
[14:06] <flaccid> ok i will restart X again
[14:06] <flaccid> brb
[14:06] <peterpan_> how to make a partition access rights as only root can change or delete its contents. (wirte permision) and all others including me as username "log1" can only view the contents.
[14:07] <sachak> i have installed samba nad nfs as required to enable me to share my files and folders
[14:07] <Jay-Oh-En> DjDarkman: should install startup manager
[14:07] <DjDarkman> Jay-Oh-En: package?
[14:07] <Jay-Oh-En> DjDarkman: sudo apt-get install startup-manager
[14:08] <DjDarkman> thanks Jay-Oh-En
[14:08] <Jay-Oh-En> or if that doesnt work do a aptitude search startup
[14:08] <finek> !gtk
[14:08] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[14:08] <sub[t]rnl> that worked for me
[14:09] <sub[t]rnl> Theme=/usr/share/kdm/themes/dir_of_untarred_theme
[14:09] <sachak> W8TAH i have installed samba nad nfs as required to enable me to share my files and folders
[14:09] <W8TAH> sachak: im no good at that -- prehaps others will be able to help more
[14:09] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: you guys know what to do but i dont and IM THE ONE with the problem
[14:09] <flaccid> still no luck. i'll remove the lower metric default overrides
[14:09] <sachak> ok
[14:10] <W8TAH> ive not managed to get that functionality working myself
[14:10] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: ok, did you download a theme you want?
[14:10] <sachak> W8TAH i have installed samba nad nfs as required to enable me to share my files and folders
[14:10] <sachak> sorry
[14:10] <Jay-Oh-En> kdmtheme isnt working for me altogether
[14:10] <W8TAH> np
[14:10] <sachak> i have installed samba nad nfs as required to enable me to share my files and folders
[14:10] <flaccid> ok one more try
[14:10] <sachak> anyone out here that can help me
[14:10] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: well, how can I help you if you wont answer me? heh?
[14:11] <W8TAH> folks for some resaon, when i boot up, after grub, the screen goes blank untill KDM starts -- i know there is to be a splash screen there -- how do i make it appear?
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: kdmtheme isnt working for me altogether
[14:11] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: yes, I know
[14:11] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: I'll tell you how to get it to work, have you downloaded a theme that you want to use?
[14:11] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: from kde-look.org
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: yes
[14:12] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: ok, do this, sudo cp themename.tar /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/
[14:13] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: then -> cd /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ && sudo tar xvf themename.tar
[14:13] <Jay-Oh-En> cp: cannot stat `LoveKDE_KDM': No such file or directory
[14:13] <Jay-Oh-En> cp: cannot stat `Theme-0.1.tar.bz2': No such file or directory
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> cp: cannot stat `LoveKDE_KDM': No such file or directory
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> cp: cannot stat `Theme-0.1.tar.bz2': No such file or directory
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> oops
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo cp LoveKDE_KDM Theme-0.1.tar.bz2 /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> thats what i typed
[14:14] <sub[t]rnl> why do you have a space there?
[14:14] <sub[t]rnl> in LoveKDE_KDM and Theme-0.1.tar.bz2
[14:14] <sub[t]rnl> is that all one file?
[14:15] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo cp ~/Desktop/LoveKDE.tar.bz2 /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/
[14:15] <sub[t]rnl> ok, now go into the themes dir
[14:15] <Jay-Oh-En> that worked
[14:15] <sub[t]rnl> cd /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[14:16] <Jay-Oh-En> done
[14:16] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo tar -jxvf LoveKDE.tar.bz2
[14:16] <Jay-Oh-En> kdm login manager isnt working for me at all i cant even use the default theme
[14:16]  * sub[t]rnl sighs
[14:16] <sub[t]rnl> we're not done yet
[14:16] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[14:16] <Jay-Oh-En> done
[14:16] <Jay-Oh-En> i did that
[14:16] <sub[t]rnl> did you unzip? ok
[14:17] <mohamed> hi
[14:17] <Jay-Oh-En> should i show you everything it untared
[14:17] <sub[t]rnl> now, sudo kate /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[14:17] <sub[t]rnl> tell me when you have it opened
[14:17] <Jay-Oh-En> i have it open
[14:18] <sub[t]rnl> ok, scroll down to the [X Greeter] tag or whatever
[14:18] <Jay-Oh-En> yep
[14:18] <sub[t]rnl> and go down to Theme=@@
[14:18] <flaccid> i got it working
[14:18] <Jay-Oh-En> Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@
[14:18] <sub[t]rnl> your going to put Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/LoveKDE/
[14:18] <flaccid> by manual. not sure exactly how. how to specify the xml file in the kdm config and not just the dir i think...
[14:19] <Jay-Oh-En> UseBackground=true
[14:19] <Jay-Oh-En> UserCompletion=false
[14:19] <Jay-Oh-En> UserList=true
[14:19] <flaccid> i mean i had to specify xml config file explicitly, not the theme dir
[14:19] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, it worked for me just using the dir
[14:19] <flaccid> i started kdm manual going to see if it works with init.d now
[14:19] <flaccid> i think it could be this sweden theme maybe
[14:19] <Jay-Oh-En> let me restart X
[14:19] <flaccid> brb
[14:19] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: no
[14:19] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[14:20] <Jay-Oh-En> didnt work
[14:20] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: didnt work
[14:20] <sub[t]rnl> yeah cause we weren't done
[14:20] <Jay-Oh-En> oh hehe
[14:20] <Jay-Oh-En> ok open file again?
[14:21] <Jay-Oh-En> kdmrc
[14:21] <sub[t]rnl> you need to add in -> UseTheme=True under the Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/whateverthemedir/
[14:22] <Jay-Oh-En> now restart X
[14:22] <Jay-Oh-En> ?
[14:22] <flaccid> ok that works. so now the test is to see if the overrides work again by changing to a dif theme with kdmtheme
[14:22] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: yup
[14:23] <Jay-Oh-En> it couldnt open the theme
[14:23] <Jay-Oh-En> or dir
[14:23] <sub[t]rnl> make sure you gave it the correct directory
[14:23] <sub[t]rnl> in kdmrc
[14:24] <Jay-Oh-En> lets start over
[14:24] <Jay-Oh-En> with thise file newtux.tar.gz
[14:25] <flaccid> ok restart x more time. if it goes back to original kubuntu theme then the overrides in /etc/default/kdm.d fail..
[14:25] <Jay-Oh-En> nvm
[14:26] <Jay-Oh-En> how do you rename in console
[14:26] <sub[t]rnl> mv
[14:27] <Jay-Oh-En> didnt work
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: this is the name of the folder LoveKDE_KDM Theme-0.1
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i rename that
[14:29] <sub[t]rnl> thats the name of the folder in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ ?
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> yes
[14:29] <veein> ?
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> i did cd to that dir
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> no what
[14:29] <Jay-Oh-En> now*
[14:30] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mv LoveKDE(then hit tab) nameitwhatever
[14:31] <flaccid> ok so doing it explicit in the config file works, the overrides fail!
[14:31] <flaccid> i guess we could research why that is because it means that kdmtheme doesn't work - it doesn't load /etc/defaults/kdm.d/*
[14:32] <flaccid> but i can't be bothered to find out or look at log/output
[14:32] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[14:32] <Jay-Oh-En> IT WORKED
[14:33] <flaccid> yerp, but its stupid that the overrides fail.
[14:33]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[14:33] <flaccid> how annoying
[14:33] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: we should just redo kdmtheme sometime
[14:33] <sub[t]rnl> one weekend
[14:33] <flaccid> kdmtheme is fine
[14:33] <flaccid> it creates the correct config file /etc/defaults/kdm.d
[14:33] <flaccid> in there
[14:33] <flaccid> but they are not included...
[14:34] <flaccid> could be a case of ubuntu breaking debian..
[14:35] <Jay-Oh-En> the background in konqueror is black how do i change to white
[14:35] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: hrm, yeah.  I see the kdm.d settings changing as expected
[14:36] <Jay-Oh-En> and how do i untar a .tar.gz
[14:36] <flaccid> yeah its sad
[14:36] <sub[t]rnl> tar zxvf
[14:36] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: agreed
[14:36] <Jay-Oh-En> so what are they going to do to fix it
[14:36] <Jay-Oh-En> ?
[14:36] <sub[t]rnl> black magic!
[14:36] <flaccid> that true-nature kdm theme is nice
[14:36] <sub[t]rnl> thats what!
[14:37] <flaccid> well you can submit a bug on launchpad and then that will probably be cross-referenced with another bug report or something
[14:38]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[14:38] <sub[t]rnl> i use ichigo as a backdrop to my login theme.  Then it goes to the finger print scan ksplash
[14:38] <sub[t]rnl> http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/ichigo.jpg
[14:39] <flaccid> nice
[14:39] <sub[t]rnl> txya
[14:40] <sub[t]rnl> ok, i need some coffee after this madness that is login themes...
[14:40] <flaccid> im dual display with new dell 24in widescreen and notebook and desktop
[14:40] <Jay-Oh-En> i wish the kdmtheme tool worked so i didnt have to change them like this everytime
[14:40] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: oh nice
[14:40] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: what resolution do you use on the 24 inch?
[14:40] <Jay-Oh-En> im dual display with two 42 inch screen tvs
[14:40] <flaccid> Jay-Oh-En: you can use the kdem theme to install new themes from tar i think then just edit the main kdmrc Theme directive
[14:40] <flaccid> 1920x1200
[14:40]  * sub[t]rnl whistles
[14:41] <sub[t]rnl> vid card?
[14:41] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: jk
[14:41] <Jay-Oh-En> haha
[14:41] <Jay-Oh-En> that would be AMAZING tho
[14:41] <flaccid> um nvidia 8400 i think
[14:41] <Jay-Oh-En> and my eyes wouldnt be able to handel it
[14:41] <sub[t]rnl> flaccid: cool, using twinview for extended desktop?
[14:41] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: lol
[14:41] <Jay-Oh-En> lol
[14:41] <flaccid> nah xrandr
[14:42] <flaccid> can do on open source drivers..
[14:42] <sub[t]rnl> I use a 12" monitor
[14:42] <sub[t]rnl> its actually a bright lite i just rigged up...
[14:42] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[14:43] <flaccid> heheh
[14:43] <sub[t]rnl> I use duals with it
[14:43] <flaccid> i use this command to enable the dual: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1920x1200 --right-of LVDS
[14:43] <sub[t]rnl> bright light + etcha sketch
[14:43] <flaccid> its sweet as
[14:43] <sub[t]rnl> its tight
[14:44] <flaccid> i use the dvi for the desktop and switch. this lcd can take all video inputs as well
[14:44]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[14:44] <sub[t]rnl> I just have two crt's on my desk, and a laptop off to the side.
[14:44] <flaccid> my 1tb NAS is configured to. so now i need to get back to work one day heh
[14:45] <sub[t]rnl> I actually run my main monitor off my laptop
[14:45] <sub[t]rnl> and thats what I'm on now
[14:45] <flaccid> ouchy. yeah crts hurt my eyes too much
[14:45] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[14:45] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: im just going to use the true-nature one it looks the best
[14:45] <sub[t]rnl> Sysinfo for 'bangarang': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz at 1000 MHz (3325 bogomips), HD: 19/102GB, RAM: 840/1001MB, 144 proc's, 15.29h up
[14:45] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: ok you hippy
[14:45] <Jay-Oh-En> =(
[14:45] <flaccid> thats similar to my desktop i think
[14:45] <Tm_T> Jay-Oh-En: its good :)
[14:45] <Jay-Oh-En> lol
[14:46] <Jay-Oh-En> whats the command in terminal for all system info
[14:46] <flaccid> there is none
[14:47] <flaccid> there are things like lshw
[14:47] <Jay-Oh-En> well i just found one i think
[14:47] <flaccid> lspci
[14:47] <flaccid> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:47] <flaccid> what is it Jay-Oh-En
[14:47] <Jay-Oh-En> basically i have all raid devices
[14:47] <Jay-Oh-En> jon
[14:47] <flaccid> also lsb_release -a
[14:48] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: sound it out
[14:48] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: and see what those letters spell
[14:48] <Jay-Oh-En> oops i missread what you said
[14:48] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[14:48] <flaccid> ah ok
[14:48] <Jay-Oh-En> i thought you said what is Jay-Oh-En
[14:48] <Jay-Oh-En> try sysinfo
[14:49] <flaccid> w0a a lot of deps
[14:49] <Jay-Oh-En> and the gives alot of specs
[14:49] <Jay-Oh-En> you just have to install it
[14:49] <flaccid> cool
[14:49] <Jay-Oh-En> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
[14:50] <Jay-Oh-En> 2100.186 MHz
[14:50] <Jay-Oh-En> omg this gives you EVERYTHING
[14:50] <flaccid> what about sex
[14:50] <opdensteinen> name /Gogoacquan
[14:51] <Jay-Oh-En> haha
[14:51] <opdensteinen> ^
[14:51] <opdensteinen> ^
[14:51] <Jay-Oh-En> flaccid: hump your computer then and only then it will give you sex
[14:52] <flaccid> oky
[14:52] <Jay-Oh-En> but it will feel horrible
[14:52] <Jay-Oh-En> the fan ochey
[14:52] <Jay-Oh-En> ouch
[14:52] <Jay-Oh-En> bye guys and thanks for all your help sub[t]rnl and flaccid PEACE!!!
[14:52] <flaccid> plur
[14:53] <opdensteinen> how do i change my name again?:)
[14:53] <flaccid> on irc you type /nick newnickname
[14:54] <Gogoacquan> thx
[14:54] <flaccid> np
[14:55] <Gogoacquan> does anyone know where i can find the latest version of my kernel?
[14:57] <flaccid> well your kernel is its latest version Gogoacquan
[14:57] <flaccid> do you want to upgrade the kernel?
[14:58] <Gogoacquan> yes
[14:58] <flaccid> just do an update via adept
[14:58] <flaccid> fetch updates then install any. if there is a new kernel for your release it will let you d/l it
[14:58] <Gogoacquan> because it doesnt work with the gotas project
[14:59] <Gogoacquan> ok
[14:59] <Gogoacquan> gatos
[14:59] <flaccid> what is gotas project and what is its requirement for kernel?
[14:59] <flaccid> !find gatos
[14:59] <ubotu> Found: gatos, libgatos-dev, libgatos0
[14:59] <flaccid> !info gatos
[14:59] <ubotu> gatos: ATI All-in-Wonder TV capture software. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.5-16ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 134 kB, installed size 580 kB (Only available for i386)
[14:59] <Gogoacquan> thats it
[15:00] <flaccid> just install the package gatos
[15:00] <Gogoacquan> over the adept manager
[15:00] <Gogoacquan> ?
[15:00] <flaccid> yep its in universe
[15:01] <Gogoacquan> ok thx
[15:01] <flaccid> np
[15:04]  * Eldaria_away is back.
[15:05] <hdevalence> where would I get a non-customized version of KDE?
[15:05] <flaccid> kde.org
[15:06] <hdevalence> i mean, what distro does the least amount of disto-specific customization?
[15:06] <flaccid> thats a subjective question, im not sure anyone could answer
[15:07] <bazhang> hdevalence: linux from scratch
[15:08] <hungrymouse> I've tried to partition an NTFS partiton using QTParted; after I'd set the new sizes the graphical representation of that partition went red and the "space used" field changed to N/A. Will this destroy my data?
[15:10] <bucatoamano> hello where are the entries for the menu bar ?
[15:13] <ardchoille> bucatoamano: You mean "Applications System Places" ?
[15:14] <bucatoamano> ardchoille: no the .desktop file,
[15:14] <ardchoille> bucatoamano: ~/.local/share/applications
[15:14] <pteague_work> is there a keyboard shortcut for changing tabs in konsole?
[15:15] <ardchoille> bucatoamano: system-wide would be /usr/share/applications
[15:15] <sub[t]rnl> shift + direction arrows
[15:15] <bsander> pteague_work: <Shift>left/right
[15:15] <pteague_work> ah, there we go, thanks much :)
[15:17] <bucatoamano> ardchoille: :) thanks
[15:18] <ardchoille> yw
[15:19] <RichEd> Riddell: ping
[15:23] <frojnd> hello there
[15:23] <frojnd> How can I check what interface for wifi do I have ?
[15:23] <sub[t]rnl> iwconfig
[15:23] <frojnd> thanx sub[t]rnl
[15:26] <maninder> were would i get my ati graphics card driver
[15:26] <nosrednaekim> maninder: from the restricted-manager-kde
[15:26] <bazhang> !ati
[15:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> thanks bazhang
[15:27] <maninder> will adept work
[15:27] <maninder> to search for them
[15:27] <bazhang> nosrednaekim: hi!
[15:28] <bazhang> maninder: did you read that link?
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> maninder: yes, but its better to use the restricted-manager because it will configure your Xorg for you.
[15:28] <maninder> okay thanks
[15:29] <maninder> but i got kubuntu
[15:29] <maninder> would it be same file name
[15:29] <Tm_T> Ubuntu is Kubuntu
[15:31] <maninder> my kubuntu is acting weird
[15:31] <maninder> i installed compiz and when i restart the settings done save
[15:31] <maninder> and the number of desktops doesnt work i pit it as pne but i see 4
[15:31] <maninder> you think i should reinstall kubuntu
[15:31] <bazhang> maninder: best ask in #compiz-fusion
[15:37] <amorakProb> I have a problem wiht Amarok and I would feel great, if someone could help me: in wich way I can make it possible, that amarok does not connect any database at the internet for extra/meta-information of music?
[15:40] <jhutchins> amorakProb: I think you can just delete the CDDB server from the configuration (under engine) and it won't try to connect (or will at least fail quickly), but you can also ask in #amarok.
[15:41] <amorakProb> thanks for help, i am asking there now
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:44] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: !!1
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Hi Tm_T :)
[15:44] <Tm_T> funny hat for you sir
[15:44] <bazhang> nice
[15:50] <poison> hi guys
[15:50] <Tm_T> poison: I said so?
[15:51] <ubuntu_> anybody out there?
[15:52] <sub[t]rnl> Greetings ubuntu_, Welcome to #Kubuntu
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> thats with a CAPITAL K!
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> XD
[15:52] <ubuntu_> thanx
[15:52] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[15:56] <livingdaylight> hola kubunteros!
[15:57] <livingdaylight> how is kde4 coming along?
[15:57] <adamB> does anyone know of a good (QT/KDE based is posible) real time guitar effects program?
[15:57] <adamB> if possible*
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> livingdaylight: quite well, i'm using it regularly
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> adamB: yeah.... forgot its name tho... started with a C
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> !info creox
[15:58] <ubotu> creox: real-time guitar effects. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2rc2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 285 kB, installed size 792 kB
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> there ya go
[15:58] <trappist> I'm using kde4 daily, because the install broke my kde3 :/
[15:58] <adamB> ah thank you!
[15:59] <livingdaylight> nosrednaekim, is final release still expected for December?
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> trappist: how so?
[15:59] <peterpan_> i am using kubuntu. i cant setup my tv tuner. alpha tv tuner. i went to linuxtv.com and installled the dvb . i used kdetv and mythtv. i cant make it work. any help?
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> livingdaylight: January
[15:59] <livingdaylight> ok, its been moved forward it seems
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | peterpan_
[15:59] <ubotu> peterpan_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:59] <hungrymouse> I've tried to partition an NTFS partiton using QTParted; after I'd set the new sizes the graphical representation of that partition went red and the "space used" field changed to N/A. Will this destroy my data?
[15:59] <trappist> nosrednaekim: I can't right-click the desktop, alt-f2 and alt-space doesn't work, and kicker's kinda broke
[16:00] <nosrednaekim> trappist: interesting.... same thing happened to me, but I thout it was compiz.
[16:00] <nosrednaekim> trappist: kde4 doesn't work though?
[16:00] <loonyxp> Hello, I have a problem with konqueror, it does not load https sites anymore. Firefox does. Normal sites work though. What could be the problem? Any help appreciated!
[16:01] <trappist> nosrednaekim: it may be compiz, I use it too.  kde4 works, but it has a ways to go before I'm happy with it
[16:02] <peterpan_> nosrednaekim - iam new. i just know i have alpha tv tuner card.
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> peterpan_: yeah, well, read that page and see if anyone else has gotten it working, and how.
[16:03] <frojnd> For wlan-ng and orinoco_cs     based nics, monitor mode is entered automatically when the ’Start’ button     is clicked to initiate a capture session. Other card types must be put     into monitor mode outside of airsnort, prior to clicking Start.  Well I have other card broadcom and how can I put my card into monitor outside the arisnort ??
[16:04] <peterpan_> nosrednaekim how to know at which port is my tv tuner connected? and is enabled. i mean i installed the driver "dvb" from linuxtv.com    .. is it installed good ?
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> frojnd: wasn't aware that broadcoms even support monitor
[16:05] <frojnd> sorry nosrednaekim  I have ndiswrapper :S
[16:05] <nosrednaekim> frojnd: ndiswrapper doesn't support monitor AFAIK
[16:05] <nosrednaekim> peterpan_: the driver is probably in the kernel by default.
[16:06] <frojnd> nosrednaekim, hm .. :S
[16:07] <artur_> what could i do to make my Firefox 3.0 (Gran Paradiso) recognize the jre plugin? I've already installed it, but the browser always show me a message about downloading and istalling this.
[16:07] <adamB> ok i have creox but i can't work out how to use it, i'm using a analog to usb thing and can record me playing in kwave but i can't get creox to see the guitar :S
[16:07] <adamB> do i have to do something in jack?
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> adamB: you need a rela-time kernel and all of the jack toolkits. I never did get it working, but I really never tried either.
[16:08] <peterpan_> nosrednaekim how do i know which port is my tv tuner on. and can it be accessible by the right app?
[16:08] <sub[t]rnl> frojnd: try setting sudo iwconfig device mode Monitor
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> peterpan_: take a look at "sudo lshw"
[16:11] <adamB> nosrednaekim: hmmm, the jack control thing seems to see the guitar when i start plucking strings, i think i'll play arounf with jack and see if i can get this working :P
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> adamB: k
[16:11] <frojnd> sub[t]rnl, and thos command: iwconfig device mode Monitor  will do what ?
[16:12] <sub[t]rnl> if the driver is capable, yeah it will put it in monitor mode
[16:13] <frojnd> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[16:13] <frojnd>     SET failed on device device ; No such device.
[16:13] <frojnd> nah :S
[16:14] <sub[t]rnl> change "device" to your device
[16:14] <sub[t]rnl> like, eth0 or wlan0 or whatever your wireless device is
[16:14] <frojnd> sub[t]rnl, and if I sucess how can I set that my device won't be monitor any more but as it was before ?
[16:15] <sub[t]rnl> sudo iwconfig eth0 mode Managed
[16:15] <sub[t]rnl> or whatever the interface is
[16:15] <sub[t]rnl> (ps leave your neighbors WEP key alone)
[16:15]  * sub[t]rnl chuckles
[16:15] <frojnd> sub[t]rnl, do u know maybe how can I check what interface I'm at now
[16:16] <frojnd> u know what they say, fight fire with fire..
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> ooer, so you are engaging in naughtiness.
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> can't help you now, or i'll hear it from Tm_T
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> sowwy
[16:17] <Tm_T> frojnd: what exactly you're trying to do?
[16:18] <sigma_kubuntu> html
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> I'm guessing trying to get his wireless card in monitor mode to collect iv's using airodump on wifi traffic
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> but i've been wrong before
[16:19] <frojnd> Tm_T, yep
[16:19] <frojnd> Tm_T, Notice: you must place your card into monitor mode manually. Channel scan may not be available
[16:20] <someon1> j #legion
[16:35] <awag> can someone give me a hand with xvid?
[16:35] <Tm_T> !helpme
[16:35] <awag> i have it installed, and i can watch xvid videos
[16:35] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[16:36] <awag> but when i try to build ffmpeg with xvid encoding support
[16:36] <awag> it says i don't have xvid
[16:36] <droom> !repeat
[16:36] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:36] <Tm_T> awag: you have what issue exactly? tried what, also what have you installed?
[16:36] <Tm_T> !bot > droom
[16:37] <droom> sorry
[16:37] <Tm_T> droom: no need to be sorry :)
[16:37] <Tm_T> awag: yes?
[16:38] <wraithmagi> anyone know if ati driver is ever going to have full support for radeon xpress 200m?
[16:38] <awag> basically, i want to convert some files to xvid mpeg4 for my ipod using a script that i have that uses ffmpeg, but I need to recompile ffmpeg with xvid encoding support enabled, but when i try to do that, it complains i don't have xvid installed
[16:38] <Tm_T> wraithmagi: hopefully, but who knows
[16:38] <awag> i have installed libxvidcore4
[16:39] <Tm_T> !medibuntu | awag
[16:39] <ubotu> awag: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:39] <sub[t]rnl> !find divx
[16:39] <ubotu> Found: divxcomp, avifile-divx-plugin
[16:39] <Tm_T> that might save a lot of trouble for you awag
[16:39] <awag> ok i'll take a look at those
[16:39] <awag> thanks
[16:39] <wraithmagi> seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me...
[16:39] <wraithmagi> re: ati drivers...
[16:40] <Tm_T> wraithmagi: ?
[16:40] <sub[t]rnl> rofl
[16:40] <wraithmagi> just that there's so many laptops and other desktop boxes that use that IGP...
[16:40] <wraithmagi> not providing a complete linux driver seems stupid...
[16:41] <Tm_T> wraithmagi: from ati, yes
[16:41] <Tm_T> wraithmagi: let them hear your opinion, with reasonable arguments ;)
[16:42] <wraithmagi> yeah... just venting... have to run compiz-fusion thru xgl... but desktop has nvidia card so I can run native...
[16:44] <wraithmagi> if all xpress 200m owners did that then it might help...
[16:44] <Tm_T> wraithmagi: one is better than none ;)
[16:46] <Tm_T> sub[t]rnl: erm, ok, interesting :)
[16:46] <sub[t]rnl> Tm_T: lol
[16:47] <dm> Is there a way to have konversation join the channels automatically, I havent found anything
[16:47] <sub[t]rnl> hit f2, then edit your server to add auto join channels
[16:48] <Delvien> genius, thanks
[16:50] <bazhang> sub[t]rnl: thanks! I've been wondering that forever
[16:50] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, i actually wrote a ruby script to auto join channels, when it was right in front of me the whole time
[16:50] <sub[t]rnl> :<
[16:50] <adamB> how do i get a low latencey kernel in kubuntu gutsy?
[16:51] <Tm_T> !rt
[16:51] <ubotu> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy
[16:51] <Tm_T> this one?
[16:51] <dm_> Ok, what about getting konversation to shopw up in the notification tray in Gnome ? :)
[16:51] <adamB> thanks
[16:52] <anakin_> Hello all, I am working on a freshly installed gutsy. for some reason, when i sign into my msn-im account, Kopete crashes.
[16:53] <SSJ_GZ> anakin_: Have you updated yet?
[16:54] <anakin_> yep, if by update you mean apt-get update and installing everything upgradeable, yes.
[16:56] <anakin_> at first i thought it could have been due to my previous attempt to install kde4-rc. but after a few dependency failures i removed the libs. no other app seem to be giving problem except kopete.
[16:57] <SSJ_GZ> anakin_: That's odd.  That exact problem was in the initial version of Gutsy, but was fixed by a later upgrade.
[16:57] <Tm_T> andrej_: what problem?
[16:57] <Tm_T> baaah
[16:57] <Tm_T> ColonelKlink: even
[16:57] <Tm_T> andrej_: sorry about my hilight, carry on :)
[16:59] <ColonelKlink> well, SSJ_GZ- even more odd. when i said, apt-get update, actually i was running synaptic update. and there werent any upgradeable packages after the i hit reload. however, adept seems to have found new upgradeable packages...hopefully this will fix it
[17:00] <SSJ_GZ> ColonelKlink: Hopefully - let us know how it goes!
[17:01] <x-demon> how i can configure 5-button mouse in ubuntu?
[17:08] <mabo> ciao kulibunti che non siet altro
[17:08] <mabo> :D
[17:09] <BluesKaj> !it | mabo
[17:09] <ubotu> mabo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:09] <mabo> da quando ?
[17:09] <mabo> I didn.t know
[17:10] <mabo> sorry
[17:10] <jussi01> mabo: :)
[17:10] <mabo> I'm writing from ubuntu 7.10
[17:10] <jussi01> mabo: how can we help?
[17:10] <mabo> seems work fine
[17:11] <mabo> jussi01 I juts wanna chat from my ubuntu
[17:11] <mabo> :D
[17:11] <jussi01> !ot | mabo
[17:11] <ubotu> mabo: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:12] <anakin_> can anyone point me to a help page thats a sure fire way to install kde4. so far, the guides i've followed failed :(
[17:12] <BluesKaj> mabo, Kubuntu IRC chat client is Konverstion
[17:13] <BluesKaj> err Konversation
[17:13] <jussi01> anakin_: the one in /topic is the best!
[17:13] <anakin_> lets see...
[17:14] <jussi01> !kde4 > anakin_
[17:17] <BluesKaj> jussi01, are you running kde4 ?
[17:17] <anakin_> jussi01: yeah, thats the one i followed earlier. I guess it failed because I'd not fully updated all packages after initial installation.
[17:20] <jussi01> BluesKaj: I have it installed an can run it BluesKaj
[17:20] <jussi01> BluesKaj: Im not on it atm
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ok jussi01, was just curious if it installed without probs , cuz my 2 tries weren't successful :P
[17:24] <jussi01> weird that everyone is having problems - went fine here.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> has to do with hardware recognition I think
[17:25] <jussi01> ahh
[17:28] <maninder> how do i get ati drivers
[17:28] <maninder> i tried reading of the ubuntu site its not the same for kubuntu
[17:29] <Tm_T> !ati | maninder
[17:29] <ubotu> maninder: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:29] <maninder> its not the same
[17:29] <BluesKaj> maninder, goto the ati site
[17:29] <maninder> i tries reading it
[17:29] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: whatta?
[17:30] <Tm_T> maninder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:30] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: care to explain? I'm interested :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, the ati site has the right drivers for those cards that aren't using the restricted driver
[17:31] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: yes but we don't know it yet?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> some work some don't
[17:31] <Tm_T> true :)
[17:31] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: (un)fortunately we should endorse "official" methods that are supported
[17:32] <Tm_T> if those fails, then others
[17:32] <hydrogen> (re)fortunatly!
[17:34] <Dr_willis> about the only diff. should be the name of the package manger, or the restricted-manager tool.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> But i havent kept up with the latest ati developments. just for my old ati cards.
[17:35] <underdog5004> I'm trying to compile firefox, and as a dependency, I ended up compiling gnome-desktop-2.20.1...which subsequently failed. I've googled around, but I haven't found anything...here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m3b9467d2
[17:35] <underdog5004> Thank you!
[17:36] <jussi01> underdog5004: why are you trying to compile it??? o.O
[17:36] <hydrogen> why are you trying to do anything with it is the more appropriate question :)
[17:36] <underdog5004> jussi01: why wouldn't I?
[17:36] <underdog5004> :) @ hydrogen
[17:36] <jussi01> underdog5004: it in the repos...
[17:37] <Dr_willis> Very little gained. and a lot of hassles
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, the ATI recomended drivers don't provide 3D & DRI for some cards , so the kubuntu default restricted drivers are better
[17:37] <underdog5004> oh crap, sorry, wrong channel...thought I was in #gentoo!
[17:37] <underdog5004> lol
[17:37] <Dr_willis> So the state of ATi drivers under linux - is still a bit of a disaster. :)
[17:37] <jussi01> underdog5004: :)
[17:38] <underdog5004> thanks anyway
[17:39] <Minataku> Yeah, AMD didn't really release any USEFUL details on their crappy cards
[17:39] <BluesKaj> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html
[17:39] <Minataku> And they're still not making useful drivers for them, either
[17:40] <Chousuke> Minataku: They're supposed to release more soon'ish
[17:40] <sean__> I don't seem able to launch firefox at all
[17:40] <sean__> really annoying
[17:40] <Dr_willis> Ati alwyas seem to be saying that.
[17:40] <Minataku> sean__: Check it's not already running but stuck
[17:40] <sean__> it's not running - ps aux | grep fire
[17:40] <Chousuke> the 3d specs are probably an order of magnitude more complicated and more encumbered than the 2d specs
[17:41] <Dr_willis> firefox seems weird how it handles its own crashes.. "cant load it.. another session is loaded.. ect"
[17:41] <Chousuke> and who knows how long AMD prepared those 2d specs, too :/
[17:41] <Minataku> Chousuke: Despite the fact that nobody really cares about the 2D specs since those are pretty much all reverse engineered to a useful state
[17:41] <sean__> I'm not getting any error messages even launching from command line
[17:41] <sean__> it seems to start to launch then stops
[17:41] <efond> hi , where i can put some programme to auto start , i don`t see sesions like in ubuntu?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> I'm still using the 8.37 driver cuz the 8.43 recomended driver doesn't do Google Earth etc
[17:42] <Chousuke> Minataku: well they can't just go and dump the documentation on the internet.
[17:42] <sean__> I've ven tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[17:42] <Chousuke> Minataku: they'd probably accidentally break agreements and NDAs and whatnot.
[17:43] <Minataku> They could at least put more steam into writing a good Linux driver
[17:43] <Dr_willis> sean__,  try renaming/moving your .firefox dir. and under a new user. is a better test then trying the 'windows way' of 'uninstalling/reinstalling/praying'
[17:43] <Minataku> Which, so far, they still haven't.
[17:43] <Chousuke> Minataku: maybe they're waiting after they get the 3d specs cleared and out
[17:43] <Dr_willis> or is it the .mozilla dir. i forget.
[17:44] <sean__> .mozilla
[17:45] <efond> can u help me please
[17:45] <efond> hi , where i can put some programme to auto start , i don`t see sesions like in ubuntu?
[17:45] <sean__> I'm not sure how much use that would be, although all my data is that folder that doesn't appear to be where firefox is launched from as they are no executable files in that directory!
[17:46] <pag> !autostart | efond
[17:46] <ubotu> efond: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[17:47] <billytwowilly> any idea what could cause all computers on my network to not be able to ping a web address that all the network ping websites can ping?
[17:47] <billytwowilly> the dns resolves to the same ip too.
[17:47] <sean__> I think I'll back up reinstall and use my laptop in the meantime
[17:47] <efond> 10x
[17:47] <efond> :)
[17:49] <sean__> how long would it take to copy 50GB to a usb drive
[17:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Someone at work asked me how to grab these online flash games for playing offline. (at work of course) Would that httrack (?) program be able to do that?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !autostart | efond
[17:50] <ubotu> efond: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:50] <jussi01> BluesKaj: lol
[17:52] <BluesKaj> jussi01, actually I use  /usr/share/autostart
[17:54] <johan__> gday
[17:54]  * johan__ waves
[17:54] <rothchild> does anyone have a work around to get compiz started earlier in the boot process so i don't have to watch kwin get loaded and then replaced?
[17:55] <rothchild> lol watch kwin get loaded and then replaced sounds like an amy winehouse song ;-)
[17:55] <johan__> does anyone know of a gui program in kubuntu that will convert flvs to mp3s?
[17:55] <sub[t]rnl> rothchild: yup
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. isent a flv like a video?
[17:56] <emilsedgh> johan__: soundkonverter
[17:56] <Dr_willis> or am i confused again.
[17:56] <johan__> flv is flash video
[17:56] <johan__> emilsedgh: thanks alot
[17:56] <Dr_willis> so you want just the sound from it? or is there some sort of mp3 video  i am confused about?
[17:56] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[17:56] <emilsedgh> oh
[17:56] <rothchild> is that yup work around or yup winehouse?
[17:56]  * Dr_willis  is soooo confused.
[17:56] <emilsedgh> johan__: one thing
[17:57] <white_eagle> KDE 4, when?
[17:57] <emilsedgh> johan__: i dunno that if it works with flv's
[17:57] <sub[t]rnl> rothchild: echo export KDEWM="compiz --replace" >> ~/.bashrc
[17:57] <emilsedgh> johan__: you could use ffmpeg too, ffmpeg -i input.flv out.mp3
[17:57] <sub[t]rnl> it won't touch kwin that way
[17:58] <sinthetek>  i recently upgraded my sister's system to gutsy and i notice that sshd takes a lot longer to respond now
[17:58] <rothchild> gentleman and a scholar, thank you
[17:58] <peterpan_> how to use my tv card (alpha tv tuner card) ? http://pastebin.ca/822256
[17:59] <denis> olá
[17:59] <sinthetek> is there a new config setting to make sshd wait an extra few seconds to establish connection or something?
[17:59] <denis> kubuntubr?
[17:59] <jpatrick> !pt | denis
[17:59] <ubotu> denis: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:00] <denis> !grep
[18:00] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:00] <denis> !nvidia
[18:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:00] <sinthetek> seems to take equally long (like 5 sec) to be prompted for password and the only devices between systems is a voip router that has always worked fine wiht same config
[18:00] <sinthetek> i think mysqld is taking a little longer to respond too but not sure
[18:00] <johan__> im just lookin 4 a converter 4 the audio to stop my fiance nagging so she can do it windoze like :]
[18:00] <rothchild> echo export KDEWM="compiz --replace" >> ~/.bashrc hmm not sure it worked, is the syntax right?
[18:01]  * peterpan_ needs help
[18:01] <sinthetek> certainly seems like it... all of pages on my site that call mysql from it are taking longer to load
[18:01] <rothchild> on restarting x I got: bash: export: `--replace': not a valid identifier
[18:01] <johan__> soundkonverter only converts 2 wav not mp3 :(
[18:01] <johan__> and does not take flvs :(((
[18:01] <sub[t]rnl> rothchild: edit your ~/.bashrc and add the line in at the bottom
[18:01] <sinthetek> is it possible one of these 500 extra modules could be impeding my network stack somehow?
[18:01] <bazhang> peterpan_: try the ubuntuforums or searching the web while you wait for an answer
[18:02] <peterpan_> bazhang ok
[18:03] <johan__> i need a kubuntu app that will take flvs and just extract the audio to mp3
[18:03] <denis> !hardy
[18:03] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:03] <white_eagle> how to install KDE 4 RC2
[18:03] <peterpan_> bazhang i think you advised me for chmod thing. when i asked    how to make a directory readonly to all users and writable/deletable to only root ?           how exactly to do that... ?
[18:03] <Tm_T> !kde4 | white_eagle
[18:03] <LjL> white_eagle: type /topic
[18:03] <ubotu> white_eagle: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:03] <Tm_T> hahah
[18:04] <johan__> does any1 know an app like that on kubuntu?
[18:07] <Dr_willis> If you can get it to wav. theres other tools that can convert wav to mp3
[18:07] <johan__> Dr_willis: yeah, but soundkonverter does not even accept flvs
[18:08] <Dr_willis> im not suprised at that :)
[18:08] <johan__> yeah true
[18:08] <johan__> but stil, isit possible?
[18:08] <johan__> i know in windoze u can use super
[18:09] <BluesKaj> what about streaming the audio thru VLC to file  ..haven't done it myself but I've heard that it can be done
[18:09] <johan__> now imagine explaining that 2 my fiance......... :-{
[18:10] <sinthetek> www.mentalcases.net/~sinthetek/netprob.txt
[18:10] <johan__> i need an easy point/click wait, done solution
[18:10] <johan__> windoze lik,e
[18:10] <johan__> like
[18:11] <sinthetek> (note the ~4.9 sec delay between when first packet is detected and when sshd finally prompts for pass)
[18:11] <Lynoure> johan__: When the need is great enough, the solution will appear. That's how it tends to go.
[18:11] <johan__> Lynoure: true that, but i kinda imagined the need is there
[18:12] <johan__> im googling at the mo, if i find i will let ya know
[18:12] <Dr_willis> if you can stand to use super. :) ya could set up vmware and windows xp/95 and use super I guess..   i found super so.... well - i wont go there.. :)
[18:12] <rothchild> have you tried running 'super' under WINE?
[18:12] <Dr_willis> super was so.. 'weirdly' written - Id be suprised if it worked with wine. I think i tried that ocne.
[18:13] <johan__> super is crappy, but as far as conversion goes, it was the only prog i found that does all converstions in 1
[18:13] <sinthetek> hm... actually it looks like client system is causing the delay...
[18:13] <rothchild> I don't know the app but I have observed that WINE keeps getting better
[18:14] <rothchild> there's been a couple of things it's run for me where I thought 'no way!'
[18:14] <Dr_willis> I think SUper last i looked at it. broke some bits of the GPL also. :)
[18:14] <johan__> was pretty cool, flv to mp3,3gp,wmv, u name it. it can do a lot, but crappy written i think
[18:15] <johan__> gave me this weird white window with just an OK button i had 2 click before it loads!
[18:15] <Dr_willis> I think super is doing a lot of that with backend tools.
[18:15] <rothchild> sorry I was a bit late to the party are we trying to rip audio from flash videos?
[18:16] <johan__> rothchild: yeah, lookin 4 kde converter from flv 2 mp3
[18:16] <johan__> u know any 4 kubuntu?
[18:16] <bazhang> !u | johan__
[18:16] <ubotu> johan__: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[18:17] <BluesKaj> johan__, don't use numbers in place of words , it's confusing to us old guys
[18:17] <Lynoure> johan__: flv to ogg is done, that to mp3 is easy, too... put all in a shell script and it's simple one-step process
[18:17] <Dr_willis> Perhaps he IS dutch@! :0
[18:17] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[18:17] <johan__> im afrikaans..... thats close enough to dutch i suppose.. does that count?
[18:17] <bazhang> no
[18:17] <Dr_willis> Only 'Prince' is allowed to to that. :)
[18:17] <rothchild> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Perl+Audio+Converter?content=25766&PHPSESSID=78e0fb75da1e55febcccb685cf1ed000
[18:18] <rothchild> haven't tried it though
[18:18] <BluesKaj> johan__, I Repeat ! don't use numbers in place of words , it's confusing to us old guys
[18:18] <Dr_willis> Im glad i got some of these PopCap Games workign with wine. :) Bookworm adveutres is fun.
[18:18] <johan__> um.... i did not use a number there, did i?
 rothchild: yeah, lookin 4 kde converter from flv 2 mp3
[18:19] <johan__> afrikaans pretty much is dutch.... sigh.. o well
[18:19] <johan__> the numbers come automatically..... will concentrate more...
[18:19] <BluesKaj> this is an english chat, not dutch or afrikaans
[18:20]  * johan__ bashes his head against the wall
[18:20] <BluesKaj> ok, maybe that will help :)
[18:20] <johan__> hehehe
[18:21] <johan__> so perl audio converter should work in kubuntu?
[18:21] <rothchild> there's a .deb in that link i posted I'm just playing with it now
[18:22] <BluesKaj> well, I'm having problems with K3B not burning on DVD+RWs ...it's real slow and freezes up 50% of the time
[18:22] <xeross> hey
[18:22] <johan__> will check myself as well
[18:24] <johan__> under the deb link which one do you download?
[18:25] <Dr_willis> BlueDevil,  i had some odd crash that made k3b do that th eother day.. rebooted and it was fine
[18:25] <rothchild> http://linuxappfinder.com/debian/pool/main/p/pacpl/pacpl_4.0.0-1_i386.deb
[18:25] <rothchild> it's the most recent non beta
[18:25] <ronald__> alguien me puede ayudar tengo un problema en  kubuntu
[18:25] <bazhang> !es
[18:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:27] <ronald_> tengo un problema con wine alguien me podria ayuda??
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, i presume that entry was directed at me , i reinstalled K3B , but it's still really slow even burning virgin DVD+R disks
[18:27] <johan__> sweet, lets see how it works.. busy downloading now
[18:27] <Dr_willis> get away from this 'reinstall' line of thinking.....
[18:27] <Dr_willis> reinstalling rarely does anything in linux. :)
[18:28] <ronald_> hello johan
[18:28] <bazhang> ronald this an english channel go to #kubuntu-es
[18:28] <fairman> Hi, i have problem: i installed KDE 4 RC 2 packages to my Kubuntu (i can use it in login dialog - select session) and after it (i think) Amarok is not able to use collection. Does anybody have same problem?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  does it burn other disks at normal speeds?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> are we talking 3x speed? 8x speed? 1x speed?
[18:29] <ronald_> how do i go to the kubuntu es forum
[18:29] <johan__> busy installing it at the moment
[18:29] <Dr_willis>   /join #CHANNELNAME
[18:30] <bazhang> ronald click on the blue link
[18:30] <Dr_willis> !es
[18:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:30] <Dr_willis> i can right click on the #whatever in the chat and join also.
[18:31]  * johan__ wonders.. do other languages also confuse the older folks :]
[18:31] <Dr_willis> only this new fangled leet speech
[18:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:31] <johan__> :)
[18:31] <Dr_willis> 10-4 good buddy!
[18:31] <bazhang> haha
[18:33] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, no it's burning a dvd+r disk right now at 4x whereas normally it would do so at 16x
[18:33] <johan__> so other languages are okay just not "new fangled leet speech"?
[18:33] <johan__> mmmmm
[18:35] <hydrogen> hmm
[18:36] <hydrogen> maybe we need a #u|}u|\| +u
[18:36] <BluesKaj> another thing that bothers me is that ghetto spelling crap, like somefin (something), and axe (ask) ...it's stupid and ppl who think it's cool...well, they just aren't
[18:36] <bazhang> and aight for alright
[18:36] <johan__> hear hear BluesKaj
[18:37] <hydrogen> aight, I c what u mean
[18:37] <BluesKaj> right on ! :)
[18:37] <bazhang> hehe
[18:37] <BluesKaj> the OT cops will be here soon
[18:37] <johan__> like when my niece sms me. sometime have to phone her back to translate
[18:37] <Dr_willis> dont make me stop this car!
[18:38] <Dr_willis> :) send her back a msg saying "WTF!"
[18:38] <johan__> hehe
[18:38] <suppaman> is there a package to install flash player on 7.10 i386 ?
[18:38] <johan__> now im getting errors installing perl converter
[18:38] <ardchoille> !flash | suppaman
[18:38] <ubotu> suppaman: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:38] <Dr_willis> ive never understood this.. people buy cell phones to send messages.. but then they voice chat on AIM/MSN/Yahoo.....
[18:38] <BluesKaj> johan__, which version did you DL ?
[18:38] <tommyangelo> hello, is there a way to revert to the default gutsy (ie having removed extra lines in my sources.list)?
[18:39] <johan__> Dr_willis: because its free maybe
[18:39] <suppaman> ardchoille: thanks, it's for a friend
[18:39] <suppaman> bbl
[18:39] <johan__> 4.0.0.1
[18:39] <rothchild> johan__ here too
[18:39] <johan__> i will pastebin in, let me know what you think
[18:40] <johan__> i think its got something to do with permissions
[18:40] <tommyangelo> anybody?
[18:40] <johan__> but please let me know what you think
[18:41] <rothchild> seems happier running from dpkg at the console, gdebi really choked on it
[18:41] <johan__> rothchild: take a look at http://pastebin.com/m6ed1c34
[18:42] <intelikey> hmmm gdebi   ?       a py script ?
[18:42] <johan__> i have uninstalled soundkonverter alreads
[18:42] <ardchoille> johan__: Where did you get that .debpackage?
[18:42] <tommyangelo> intelikey: ok the problem is I don't have an X server anymore
[18:43] <johan__> from linuxappfinder.com
[18:43] <vit___> hola
[18:43] <vit___> mira pana como hago para instalar counter strike
[18:43] <johan__> any suggestions?
[18:43] <intelikey> tommyangelo perhaps you meant someone else ?      not having X doesn't seem like a problem to me ;/
[18:43] <ardchoille> johan__: Was that .deb made for ubuntu?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> johan__, but messeging in the phone is extra.
[18:43]  * Dr_willis goes back to his CB radio
[18:43] <Dr_willis> wife want me to setup a program for her where she could talk.. and it would then type into Yahoo Messanger for her..     Shes too shy to actually voice chat.
[18:44] <Dr_willis> she confuses me at times.. IS there a voice to text program for linux? ive never seen one of those yet.
[18:44] <vit___> cuando me dice abrir como a que le doy
[18:44] <rothchild> no it's a debian .deb
[18:44] <johan__> its the debian package
[18:44] <johan__> ok.. can i ask a stupid question.....
[18:44] <rothchild> here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=25766&forumpage=3
[18:44] <tommyangelo> intelikey: I thought you were talking to me when you said gdebi
[18:44]  * johan__ look around scared
[18:44] <ardchoille> johan__: You shouldn't be using debian .deb packages because it can cause problems.. which you have just seen ;)
[18:44] <rothchild> mine's working ok
[18:44] <johan__> ardchoille: thanks hehe
[18:45] <intelikey> tommyangelo sorry.  no.
[18:45] <tommyangelo> intelikey: never mind then :-D
[18:45] <johan__> rothchild: how do you know if its an ubuntu one?
[18:45] <intelikey> tommyangelo i "might" be able to help, if you explain the issue.   i did just arrive
[18:45] <intelikey> -r
[18:45] <ardchoille> rothchild: Let's hope it didn't do something that will cause problems later on down the road
[18:46] <venezuela_> que mas
[18:46] <tommyangelo> intelikey: briefly I installed kde4 to test, updated a few times and now my pc won't get past kdm (X crashes immediately after login)
[18:46] <ardchoille> !br
[18:46] <johan__> so which one on http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Perl+Audio+Converter?content=25766&PHPSESSID=78e0fb75da1e55febcccb685cf1ed000 is the ubuntu one?
[18:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:46] <rothchild> yeah we'll see, it's only a computer I like making them work hard for me ;-)
[18:46] <tommyangelo> so I figured I could remove the kde4 line in sources.list and downgrade
[18:47] <tommyangelo> but I can't work out how
[18:47] <rothchild> there isn't an 'official' ubuntu one
[18:47] <johan__> yeah i know, but which one will work?
[18:47] <rothchild> if you're nervey about using the package compile it from sources
[18:48] <rothchild> I used this one: http://linuxappfinder.com/debian/pool/main/p/pacpl/pacpl_4.0.0-1_i386.deb
[18:48] <ardchoille> rothchild: The safe way to handle software is to install from the repos, if you can't do that find an ubuntu .deb, if you can't do that compile it yourself, if you can't do that.. look for a different app to do that job.
[18:48] <tommyangelo> intelikey: any ideas?
[18:49] <intelikey> tommyangelo ok. that can be several different things.    one   disk full.    two  bug in kde4.    three  an issue with the runtime configuration files in your home dir.      if you are intent on a downgrade of kde  may i just sujest installing fluxbox or blackbox or even twm   to have a login g
[18:49] <intelikey> gui to work from
[18:49] <ardchoille> rothchild: It's not a good idea to use debian /deb's or convert a package that is meant for another distro
[18:49] <rothchild> thanks ardchoille, I think this .deb is a bit of a calcultated gamble
[18:49] <tommyangelo> intelikey: why didn't I think of that? thx brb
[18:49] <johan__> is binary probably the best route then?
[18:49] <intelikey> tommyangelo :)
[18:50] <rothchild> johan__ yes probably take the sources and compile them
[18:50] <rothchild> this one I guess: http://linuxappfinder.com/debian/pool/main/p/pacpl/pacpl_4.0.0-1.tar.gz
[18:50] <johan__> okay, let me try the binary
[18:51] <rothchild> oops no hold on
[18:51] <kerim> aranızda türk var mı?,
[18:51] <ardchoille> johan__: If you're going to compile from source, you'll need to install build-essential if you haven't already
[18:51] <rothchild> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=139264
[18:55] <johan__> rothchild: the tar.gz one?
[18:55]  * intelikey wonders if computers are actually good for anything....
[18:55] <hydrogen> porn
[18:55] <hydrogen> industry, that is
[18:55]  * johan__ buys intelikey a book...
[18:56] <intelikey> hydrogen i said good. not evil...
[18:56] <rothchild> yup
[18:56] <rothchild> I guess, I'm not sure as the .deb worked for me
[18:57] <johan__> let me try the gz
[18:57]  * genii strings tinsel on his computer and puts gifts under it
[18:57] <BonesolTeraDyne> XD
[18:58] <rothchild> yeah there's a script in there called doinst.sh
[18:58] <BonesolTeraDyne> Ow... My poor ears... I hit the wrong button and sent the volume through the roof...
[18:58] <jonathan> why does kopete crash whenever i try to connect to msn?
[18:58] <ardchoille> BonesolTeraDyne: lol
[18:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> Oh, speaking of which, is there a way to limit volume levels in the mixer? I need to know so I can help a friend set up Kubuntu for his kid.
[18:59] <ardchoille> jonathan: Known bug, try: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:00] <rothchild> BonesolTeraDyne get smaller speakers ;-)
[19:00] <tommyangelo> intelikey: thx that solved the prob (as it turned out it was disk space - silly me backed up a mates pc the other day and forgot about it)
[19:00] <Luszyn> hi all
[19:00] <soon> the 64 bit version of kubuntu works with both AMD and Intel processesor, correct ?
[19:00] <Luszyn> i have problem
[19:00] <jonathan> thanks ardchoille, i'll try that.
[19:00] <Luszyn> i must log to xorg
[19:00] <Luszyn> i am on live cd kubuntu
[19:00] <Luszyn> someone can help me?
[19:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> rothchild: My comp is connected to a home theatre system.
[19:01] <Luszyn> some polish are hire?
[19:01] <Luszyn> here*
[19:01] <ardchoille> !pl
[19:01] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:02] <Luszyn> thanks :)
[19:02] <jonathan> ardchoille: tried that. nothing to upgrade.
[19:02] <soon> Luszyn - should be : 'Are there any Polacs here?' (Im not though :-)
[19:02] <ardchoille> jonathan: Are you on Gutsy?
[19:02] <Luszyn> yes
[19:02] <jonathan> archoille: yes.
[19:02] <Luszyn> gutsy is good ;p
[19:02] <ardchoille> jonathan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:03] <intelikey> tommyangelo yeah. that kind of thing happens.   welcome
[19:03] <jonathan> ardchoille: nothing new.
[19:03] <ardchoille> jonathan: kopete 0.12.7 ?
[19:04] <rothchild> BonesolTeraDyne, there's your problem - I am only half joking but there's no point limiting the output level of your computer if the amplifier it's plugged in to can be turned up further because if the computer make a loud noise (cos you press a wrong button) you will end up even deafer! Turn the amp down and turn the computer up
[19:05] <BonesolTeraDyne> rothchild: Heh, good point. I'm honestly surprised that I didn't think of that. I really need sleep....
[19:06] <rothchild> lol sweet dreams!
[19:06] <BonesolTeraDyne> rothchild: nah, I can't. I'm having to watch over my grandmother until the rest of my family get's back.
[19:08] <rothchild> ok, good luck
[19:13]  * intelikey still wonders if computers are actually good for anything....
[19:14] <Sajes> How do I change my computers name? I typod and made it "daktoa-desktop" instead of "dakota-desktop".
[19:14] <intelikey> edit /etc/hostname  ?
[19:15] <Sajes> intelikey: Thanks. I'll try that.
[19:15] <intelikey> there is a gui way
[19:15] <intelikey> i just don't know it.
[19:15] <Sajes> intelikey: Editing that file seems simpler. Now I assume a reboot is necessary to complete the change?
[19:15] <intelikey> Sajes if you do edit that file better check /etc/hosts too
[19:16] <intelikey> and you can rerun /etc/init.d/host* restart
[19:16] <jonathan> ardchoille: sorry about the long delay. yes, it is version 0.12.7
[19:16] <johan__> ok, im gonna sound very stupid here, but how do you install that tar.gz?
[19:16] <Sajes> intelikey: Thanks much :)
[19:16] <sub[t]rnl> sudo hostname whatever
[19:16] <sub[t]rnl> too
[19:16] <intelikey> Sajes np.
[19:17] <ardchoille> jonathan: weird, the upgrade took care of that problem on 11 boxes here.
[19:17] <intelikey> !b-e | johan__
[19:17] <ubotu> johan__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:17] <johan__> i extracted the tar.gz fine.. now what?
[19:17] <jonathan> ardchoille: would you suggest i uninstall it and then get the package afresh?
[19:18] <khelll> hellos, where can i find the wireless networks nearby
[19:18] <ardchoille> jonathan: That's worth a try
[19:18] <Sajes> khelll: Do you have a wireless card in your computer?
[19:18] <khelll> yes in my laptop
[19:18] <Sajes> khelll: If it's supported on kubuntu there should be a little connection icon in the bottom right corner. Left click it once and it'll come up with all available connections.
[19:19] <Sajes> right click it*
[19:19] <khelll> i dont c that thing
[19:19] <Sajes> khelll: Strange. Hold on, I'll find out the command to start it.
[19:19] <khelll> ok
[19:20] <sub[t]rnl> sudo iwlist interface scan
[19:21] <Saras> http://agui.myminicity.es/ind/ jpg ex girlfriend join in
[19:21] <Saras> http://agui.myminicity.es/ind/ jpg ex girlfriend join in
[19:21] <Sajes> sub[t]rnl: I didn't know that command :) Guess that helps him.
[19:21] <Saras> http://agui.myminicity.es/ind/ jpg ex girlfriend join in
[19:21] <sub[t]rnl> put your wireless interface in for "interface".  You can see it from "iwconfig"
[19:21] <Saras> http://agui.myminicity.es/ind/ jpg ex girlfriend join in
[19:21] <khelll> interface  Interface doesn't support scanning.
[19:21] <cheguevara> ...
[19:21] <sub[t]rnl> khelll: ^^ see above
[19:22] <sub[t]rnl> example: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[19:22] <jonathan> ardchoille: still crashing.
[19:22] <Sajes> I found the command. press alt+f2 and run the command "knetworkmanager".
[19:23] <khelll> Saras i c the network but how can i set it ?
[19:23] <rothchild> how you getting on johan__
[19:26] <jonathan> ardchoille: if it helps, the crash handler says that it has caused signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[19:27] <ardchoille> jonathan: ok
[19:32] <khelll> there is new kde console , i forgot it's name, it starts with ya***
[19:33] <Sajes> khelll: yakuake?
[19:33] <khelll> yes
[19:33] <khelll> that's it
[19:33] <khelll> how to find it?
[19:34] <Sajes> khelll: go into Konsole and type "sudo apt-get install yakuake"
[19:34] <ardchoille> khelll: apt-cache search yaquake
[19:34] <khelll> got nothing
[19:35] <Sajes> khelll: Did you enable the repositories?
[19:35] <khelll> where to ?
[19:35] <Sajes> khelll: Open adept and click "adept" and then click "manage repositories".
[19:36] <khelll> what is adept ???
[19:37] <Sajes> khelll: a graphical package manager.
[19:37] <intelikey> is there an inbeded terminal for kde ?
[19:37] <Tm_T> intelikey: Konsole?
[19:37] <khelll> yes i found it
[19:37] <Sajes> intelikey: If you mean something like yakuake, then yakuake.  There's another alternative but I forgot the name.
[19:37] <intelikey> Tm_T no.  something that runs in the kde itself
[19:38] <Tm_T> intelikey: elaborate
[19:38] <khelll> Sajes , what to do there ?
[19:38] <rothchild> intelikey F8 in konqueror
[19:38] <Sajes> khelll: Are you in the "Manage Repositories" screen?
[19:38] <intelikey> Tm_T like the displays of kurumba
[19:38] <khelll> yes
[19:38] <intelikey> Tm_T the desktop being the actual term
[19:39] <Tm_T> intelikey: you mean "in background" ?
[19:39] <intelikey> yeah.
[19:39] <Sajes> khelll: Enable the "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)" one.
[19:39] <Tm_T> intelikey: Eterm perhaps, that's what I do use
[19:39] <Sajes> intelikey: Yakuake does that. It leaves a little bar at the top and you click on it and it drops down with a terminal.
[19:39] <Tm_T> Sajes: no it doesn't
[19:39] <macdre> I need some help with ushare in 7.10
[19:39] <intelikey> Sajes that's not what i mean
[19:39] <Sajes> Tm_T: Are you sure? Then maybe the other one did that. I'll check.
[19:40] <Tm_T> Sajes: nope
[19:40] <intelikey> Sajes it would have no handle at all but rather be the desktop background
[19:40] <Sajes> intelikey: I see. That'd be neat.
[19:40] <Tm_T> intelikey: Eterm and aterm can be embedded to background
[19:40] <intelikey> Tm_T k thanks i'll give a look.
[19:41] <Sajes> Tm_T: Oh, I see. You have to open and close it with F12. (yakuake). There was another where you clicked a panel and it dropped down.
[19:42] <Tm_T> Sajes: still not what intelikey is looking for, it's not "in background" but rather "in front"
[19:42] <Sajes> Tm_T: I know. I'm going to find a guide on that so I can do it too. That'd be cool.
[19:42] <mps> test
[19:43] <intelikey> SQUEEK!
[19:43] <intelikey> mps turn the gain down.
[19:44] <lonejack> hi all, problem when I shutdown some usb devices remain switched in on. Any suggestion? Thank you,
[19:45] <Sajes> I can't seem to find any guides how to do that.
[19:45] <Sajes> lonejack: "sudo umount -a" should unmount any unused devices.
[19:49] <zekix> slt
[19:49] <zekix> ca va ?
[19:49] <lonejack> Sajes, I'm using a wacom pen tablet, every time I have to shutdown it's necessary to do that operation ?
[19:49] <zekix> qui as macbook?
[19:49] <zekix> france??
[19:50] <ardchoille> !fr
[19:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:50] <Sajes> lonejack: No. Shutting down should automatically unmount all devices. I don't know why your computer isn't.
[19:53] <lonejack> Sajes, I try to see my bios set up. Thank you
[19:54] <johan__> rothchild: i installed the deb file, now WHERE do i find it under kubuntu?
[19:55] <johan__> for perl converter
[20:02] <hh_laurid> soon
[20:04] <johan__> rothchild?
[20:05] <cn28h> Is there a good network manager for wireless networks other than knetworkmanager?
[20:05] <johan__> has anybody installed the perl converter on kubuntu?
[20:05] <cn28h> perl converter?
[20:06] <johan__> to convert flv to mp3
[20:06] <cn28h> ah
[20:06] <johan__> i installed the deb file now cant find it in kubuntu :e
[20:06] <ardchoille> johan__: What was the filename of the .deb file?
[20:07] <johan__> its  pacpl_4.0.0-1_i386.deb
[20:08] <intelikey> if i remove ssh-agent  can kde not start ?
[20:08] <ardchoille> johan__: Try to launch it in a terminal: pacpl
[20:08] <intelikey> which pacpl
[20:08] <johan__> from which directory
[20:08] <johan__> root?
[20:09] <intelikey> type.    which pacpl
[20:09] <intelikey> if there is an executable by that name in your path it will show you.
[20:09] <blekos> hi, is there away to find out my laptop HD brand in order to search for it's load cycle life?
[20:10] <intelikey> blekos lshw | less
[20:10] <johan__> im pretty new to kubuntu and little unsure bout konsole stil
[20:10] <ardchoille> intelikey: On a fresh install, I usually comment out ssh-agent in /etc/X11/Xsession.options and my kde starts fine
[20:11] <johan__> surely in kde it should be under multimedia
[20:11] <johan__> ?
[20:11] <intelikey> johan__ general rule,  if you don't do it as root it wont break the system.      that's is a little over simplified but for the most part safe.
[20:11] <khelll> is there a place where i can c the wireless indicator
[20:11] <intelikey> ardchoille k.
[20:11] <ardchoille> johan__: Sometimes when installing a non ubuntu .deb, the menu item is not installed in the proper location so it may not show in the menu.
[20:11] <rothchild> johan__ it's a context menu in konqueror
[20:12] <rothchild> not a standalone app
[20:12] <ardchoille> Ah
[20:12] <intelikey> installing "menu" should give you the debian menu
[20:12] <johan__> ok rothchild you gonna need to explain there a little pls
[20:13] <rothchild> find a media file and left click on it under 'actions' yo ushould see pacpl convert and bunch of output options
[20:13] <ardchoille> johan__: When you right click on something in konqueror, you get a menu, that is the context menu. There might be pacpl under the Actions section of the context menu
[20:13] <johan__> ok so lets try that.... here goes
[20:16] <khelll> is there a place where i can c the wireless indicator
[20:16] <rothchild> johan__ what are you using to download .flv's with?
[20:17] <intelikey> khelll what/which wireless indicator ?
[20:17] <johan__> keepvid.com
[20:17] <intelikey> and you can c or c++ just about anything in kate :)
[20:18] <nico_> hi
[20:18] <khelll> in ubuntu u can the c a wireless connection (signal strength) indicator
[20:19] <khelll> how shall i know if am being connected to a wireless network or not
[20:19] <Iradigalesc> khelll: I think knetworkmanager does the same in KDE
[20:20] <cn28h> anyone know what knetwork uses internally? It likes to get stuck at "Activation step.. configureing device (28%)" which isn't very informative of what is wrong..
[20:20] <cn28h> knetworkmanager, even
[20:20] <nico_> I have a small, silly problem: I removed the "trash" icon on my Kubuntu out of dolphin, it also disappered from the desktop
[20:20] <intelikey> khelll ah.  um there should be a way to run that within kde if you know the name of the applet.   but there is also the ksysguard that can monitor things like that.
[20:20] <sub[t]rnl> nicoduck: you can add it to the k panel as an applet
[20:20] <roob> hello all. when using adept to update it says it cant dl the Release.gpg
[20:20] <roob> any kinda fix?
[20:21] <roob> and its just waiting on"waiting for headers" been stuck here about 2 mins.
[20:21] <khelll> i dont know the name of the applet and also when i click knetworkmanger, nothing happens
[20:21] <roob> ah there it goes...it just went to the net screen.
[20:22] <nicoduck> and how can is readd it to dolphin? adding trash:/ did not solve the problem is a proper way
[20:22] <athos_> Hello folks. I have a problem, maybe with my microphone, when I'm using Skype. When I try the Skype Call Test Service, I can hear the voice of the person, but when is the time of recording my voice and i say something, after this, in the time that i'd be supposed to hear my own voice, nothing is played. Does anyone here has already faced this kind of problem. Should i install some extra ALSA package with the apt ??
[20:22] <johan__> rothchild: i see you can only convert to ogg not mp3 :(
[20:22] <rothchild> you'll need to install lame or extracodecs or w32 codecs or sommit
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> nicoduck: cp /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/unused/directory.trash ~/Desktop then open that with dolphin
[20:23] <johan__> ok, so where will i get THOSE?
[20:23] <johan__> sorry, im on a steep learning curve here
[20:23] <rothchild> no  worries
[20:23] <nicoduck> great, thanks
[20:23] <nicoduck> :-)
[20:24] <johan__> can i sudo apt lame?
[20:24] <nicoduck> another questen: how big is the risk of an damage to my data if I change the size of an volume?
[20:24] <rothchild> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[20:25] <Sajes> nicoduck: If you mean resizing a ntfs partition, you should defragment it first.
[20:25] <rothchild> you need to enable extra repositories and make sure you have all the relevant audio and video codecs
[20:25] <khelll> how shall i c the ntfs partition i have ?
[20:26] <nicoduck> ok, because my xp/ntfs partition has 30gb and kubuntu has 10 and i want to do 20/20
[20:27] <Sajes> nicoduck: Yeah. I did that once without defragging it. It killed my XP installation so I swore off linux until I found out it was my own stupidity :P
[20:27] <johan__> okay, a quick guide on that pls?
[20:27] <nicoduck> i had an similar experience a few years ago
[20:27] <dreamcoder> is there any way to get flash etc working in firefox on 64 kubuntu?
[20:28] <rothchild> johan__ check the link it's a quick guide ;-)
[20:28] <nicoduck> has anyone got some experience with option globetrotter gprs cads?
[20:29] <nicoduck> I have a problem with the pppd, it quits without me expecting it to do so
[20:30] <nicoduck> the log just says that it seems that it got its own echo and then it receives a kil signal
[20:30] <romunov> what's the ecommand to check your ip address?
[20:30] <rothchild> romunov ifconfig
[20:31] <romunov> thanks
[20:31] <romunov> i see that it shows my local address
[20:31] <romunov> how can i check my router ip?
[20:31] <nicoduck> normally with some scripts on the net
[20:32] <nicoduck> http://vthadden.de/host.php for example
[20:32] <romunov> thanks
[20:32] <nicoduck> after the "hallo" (german for hello)
[20:36] <blekos> is it normal to have 1 load cycle every 5minutes?
[20:37] <Fraggy4> how do you access the xserver or xorg configuration setup thingy?
[20:37] <tekteen> Fraggy4: from the konsole?
[20:37] <Fraggy4> tekteen: yes
[20:38] <tekteen> Fraggy4: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:38] <Fraggy4> I have weird vertical lines on my screen and I've fixed it before, but all I remember doing is preferences in xserver or sorg
[20:39] <Fraggy4> xorg*
[20:42] <Fraggy4> tekteen: I remebr that there was some gui when I did it, and that it was similar to the original kubuntu installation screen
[20:43] <tekteen> Fraggy4: What r u trying to do?
[20:43] <Fraggy4> Get rid of the little vertical lines
[20:43] <Fraggy4> I'll take a screencap of it and show you
[20:43] <tekteen> Fraggy4: I know nothing about that
[20:43] <tekteen> sorry
[20:44] <nicoduck> has anyone got an compay evo n610c notebook or experienc with xorg config on notebooks?
[20:44] <nicoduck> after activating the monitor out in the settings, xorg stopps working and refuses to start
[20:45] <johan__> ok i give up, i dont know where to get the codec so that perl converter can convert to mp3 as well.. pls help
[20:46] <soon> IMPORTANT QUESTION: my mate wants to run Kubuntu on his 64bit Intel based system .... i386x or AMD64 ????
[20:46] <johan__> rothchild: little bit more help on this pls
[20:46] <tekteen> soon: i386
[20:47] <tekteen> soon: if u want java or flash :-D
[20:47] <tekteen> and dont want to have to work too hard
[20:47] <johan__> its 11pm here in South Africa and my fiance wants to convert tomorrow and im at work. any help appreciated
[20:47] <soon> You kan get flash and java anyway ... not ahrd
[20:47] <soon> hard*
[20:47] <soon> but will the 64bit version run on the intel processor?
[20:47] <tekteen> soon: how?
[20:47] <Fraggy4> http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1vr5.png
[20:48] <tekteen> no idea
[20:48] <Fraggy4> I want to get rid of those little lines at the bottom
[20:48] <tekteen> I use i386 anyway
[20:48] <soon> you install the 32bit java and flash thing with mozilla ... hang on for link
[20:48] <tekteen> I know how to do that
[20:48] <tekteen> !flash64
[20:48] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[20:48] <bg111> hi
[20:48] <tekteen> hi
[20:48] <Fraggy4> Hi
[20:48] <rothchild> hey johan__
[20:49] <johan__> hey rothchild
[20:49] <rothchild> where are you up to?
[20:49] <johan__> i can convert the standard stuff but it will not give me the option to convert to mp3
[20:49] <johan__> can do ogg, but thats not what i want :(
[20:50] <rothchild> did you install the extra codecs etc?
[20:50] <johan__> thats the problem
[20:50] <johan__> :(
[20:50] <soon> tekteen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[20:50] <bg111> i have a problem with kmail. i configured a mail account and during sending mails via smtp the server refuses the message with "RCPT TO must precede DATA"
[20:50] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:50] <tekteen> ok soon
[20:50] <bg111> is there anything i can debug that or configure kmail propely?
[20:50] <soon> Still I'm none the wiser though - will the AMD64 version run on 64bit Intel hardware?
[20:51] <johan__> they under packet manager>
[20:51] <johan__> ?
[20:51] <Fraggy4> tekteen: http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1vr5.png
[20:51] <senorpedro> i build 2 ide hdds into my computer. when trying to mount them via mount /dev/hda1 .... it doesnt work because the device doesnt exist. how can i see under which device i have to access the hdds?
[20:51] <rothchild> try installing lame
[20:52] <johan__> lame does not convert from flv to mp3 right?
[20:52] <johan__> i know its possible for perl converter to do it, and its gonna bug me until i find it
[20:52] <tekteen> Fraggy4: is that a problem with kde?
[20:52] <rothchild> or try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:53] <johan__> where do i find the codecs for perl converter?
[20:53] <rothchild> yeah the perl thing is just calling apps, but if the apps and the codecs aren't installed they wont be available
[20:53] <Fraggy4> tekteen: It's a problem with KDE, and GNOME.  I have both of them installed.  On GNOME, however, instead of little blue lines, it has little yellow lines that show up whenever I click and drag something with the mouse
[20:53] <johan__> okay, so can i find the codecs/apps under packet manager?
[20:54] <tekteen> Fraggy4: what driver are u using
[20:54] <tekteen> ?
[20:54] <rothchild> you need to add the medibuntu repository to your software sources and install w32codecs + all the other relevant looking stuff
[20:55] <Fraggy4> tekteen: Ineomagic
[20:55] <Fraggy4> neomagic*
[20:55] <tekteen> Fraggy4: is it open or restricted?
[20:55] <Fraggy4> I don't know
[20:55] <Fraggy4> How could I tell?
[20:56] <tekteen> Fraggy4: did u install it with the restricted drivers manager?
[20:56] <tekteen> r u using gutsy?
[20:56] <Fraggy4> Yes
[20:56] <tekteen> to both questions?
[20:56] <bg111> is there anything i can do about this mailserver message: Valid RCPT TO must precede DATA
[20:56] <Fraggy4> yes to the second one
[20:56] <Fraggy4> no to the first
[20:56] <Fraggy4> I think
[20:57] <tekteen> ok
[20:57] <tekteen> open up system settings
[20:57] <tekteen> goto the advanced tab
[20:57] <Fraggy4> Ok
[20:57] <tekteen> then click on the restricted drivers manager
[20:58] <Fraggy4> It says your hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers
[20:58] <tekteen> is there a driver to download?
[20:58] <tekteen> ok
[20:58] <tekteen> I do not know the answer. sorry :-(
[20:58] <Fraggy4> Oh well
[20:58] <Fraggy4> I can live with it for now
[20:58] <Fraggy4> thanks anyway
[21:00] <soon> I'm trying to install grace - but I'm getting errors about : dpkg: error with gconf2-common (--configure)
[21:00] <rothchild> johan__ there's a really kludgy workaround if you can export to ogg you can probably open the file in audacity and save it as an mp3 from there (and if not it might tell you what to do), double convert and an extra app is ugly but it you're in a hurry and struggling
[21:00] <soon> is there a way to install Grace and force it to-reinstall dependencies
[21:02] <levi__> hello
[21:04] <angasule> hello
[21:05] <angasule> has anyone else had any trouble with amarok lately?
[21:05] <ubuntu> speck romanian ?
[21:05] <ubuntu> how do i macke my mp3 worck ?
[21:05] <ubuntu> my englesh bad :|
[21:06] <ubuntu> enibody here ?
[21:06] <angasule> ubuntu: where are you from?
[21:06] <ubuntu> romania
[21:06] <angasule> !ro | ubuntu
[21:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[21:06] <ubuntu> thx
[21:06] <angasule> np
[21:08] <johan___> wow im confused
[21:08] <lorddarkpat_> what
[21:08] <lascar> nspluginviewer keeps crashing everytime a plugin (duh) tries to load on konqueror.  You know, at sites like youtube (or any other site employing flash).  Reasons?
[21:10] <lascar> !nspluginviewer
[21:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginviewer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:13] <khelll> how shall i run the bluetooth on my laptop?
[21:17] <senorpedro> how can i easily run xvid videos on kubuntu?
[21:17] <senorpedro> !xvid
[21:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:24] <moriancumer> to install KDE4 along side with KDE3 I'm following these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[21:25] <moriancumer> when I use sudo aptitude install kdebase-bin, The following packages are BROKEN: kdebase-dev kdesktop kdm
[21:25] <moriancumer> Is this right?
[21:27] <moriancumer> aptitude - Remove the following packages: kdebase-dev kdm kubuntu-desktop
[21:27] <moriancumer> Is this going to mess up my KDE3x install?
[21:29] <jack_> salut
[21:36] <romunov> i saw a very neat gnome desktop today
[21:36] <romunov> fully animated and everything
[21:36] <romunov> can that be done in kde?
[21:38] <trappist> romunov: depends on what you mean by "that", but it sounds like you're talking about compiz, in which case yes.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> anyone using K3B in KDE4 ...just wonder whether it's as buggy on 4 as it is on 3
[21:42] <hydrogen> its the same product
[21:42] <hydrogen> so
[21:42] <hydrogen> most likely
[21:42] <hydrogen> k3b hasn't been ported
[21:44] <BluesKaj> just made another frisbee on k3b ...guess i should try something else , the same back end is used by all the other burning apps as well so I'm reluctant to try any of them either
[21:45] <moriancumer> how do I update updated kdebase-bin
[21:48] <angasule> BluesKaj: are you burning something funky? I've never heard of issues with it
[21:48]  * angasule curses amarok
[21:49] <ardchoille> I've never had issues with k3b either
[21:49] <lars> somebody knows how to find the user setup file for administrating groups?
[21:51] <khelll> knetworkmanger is not functioning at all ! nothing happens when i click on it
[21:52] <romunov> trappist: do you know if that's possible on radeon graphic cards?
[21:52] <trappist> romunov: yes
[21:52] <trappist> romunov: but it won't work out of the box.  you'll need to install either the new ATI drivers or the xserver-xgl package.
[21:52] <senorpedro> !flash
[21:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:53] <trappist> (iirc)
[21:53] <romunov> aha aha
[21:53] <romunov> i'll keep that in mind
[21:53] <dany> hi
[21:53] <dany> I need some help x)
[21:53] <trappist> actually come to think of it I've never set it up with an ati card, only intel and nvidia.  but it does work with ati.
[21:54] <tekteen> !ask | dany
[21:54] <ubotu> dany: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:55] <dany> i was updating to 7.10 and I stopped the update manager 'cause it was too slow.. but now that i want to restart the process i can't use adept
[21:55] <senorpedro> is it possible to change from dolpin to konqueror as the default file manager?
[21:55] <senorpedro> and if yes, how?
[21:56] <hydrogen> !dolphin | senorpedro
[21:56] <moriancumer> Can someone help me install KDE4 along side KDE3?
[21:56] <hydrogen> moriancumer: follow the instructions in the topic
[21:56] <senorpedro> !dolphin
[21:56] <ubotu> senorpedro: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[21:59] <tekteen> hi guys
[21:59] <tekteen> I am trying to install firefox32
[21:59] <senorpedro> 32????
[21:59] <tekteen> 32bit
[21:59] <senorpedro> omg they develop very fast ;)
[21:59] <senorpedro> ok i see
[22:00] <ardchoille> tekteen: sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:00] <roob_> hello all. i haved a dell inspiron 5100 and im trying to get the wireless to work on it. it used the restricted drive bcm43xx and i have a wlan0...but i cant get it to connect to my network. if i use dhcp i get some random ip that isnt even part of my lan(lan is 192.x.x.x i get a 169.x.x.x) but i do see some traffic on the wlan0 device(very very small amount..but packets where sent/received)
[22:00] <tekteen> I have a 64 bit computer
[22:00] <trappist> tekteen: did you install a 64bit ubuntu?
[22:00] <dany> ardchoille: i know that u don't do updates but.. i'm sure u know more than I, so i was updating to 7.10 and I stopped the update manager 'cause it was too slow.. but now that i want to restart the process i can't use adept
[22:01] <roob_> and if i assign a ip manualy it gets the ip..but i cant ping anything..including the router with the dhcp
[22:01] <vazha> превед кубунцам
[22:01] <roob_> so....solmething is wrong....any ideas?
[22:01] <tekteen> trappist: I get this error message ...
[22:01] <tekteen> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[22:01] <ardchoille> !ru | vazha
[22:01] <ubotu> vazha: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> !wireless | roob_
[22:01] <ubotu> roob_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:01] <roob_> i currently have it plugged in using ethernet..but its only temporary...i need to use wireless
[22:02] <ardchoille> dany: I can't help with adept, I only use comand line tools for package management.
[22:02] <tekteen> trappist: I looked and found that one of the programs it relies on is pango32
[22:03] <tekteen> trappist: which is missing its modules
[22:03] <tekteen> (I think)
[22:03] <roob_> hmm is there a way to have ping use a certain interface? so i can test ping the wireless connection?
[22:03] <moriancumer> hydrogen: where can I ask questions about the instructions
[22:04] <sub[t]rnl> roob_: more specific to your exact card -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[22:04] <trappist> roob_: you mean ping *through* an interface?
[22:04] <roob_> yea trappist
[22:04] <dany> ardchoille: do u recommend to change the sources.list the edgy for the gusty and do the update in console mode?
[22:04] <roob_> and thanks sub[t]rnl reading it now
[22:04] <tekteen> dany: NO!!!
[22:05] <trappist> roob_: you'd just set that device as your gatway, using route
[22:05] <johan___> rothchild: stupid me, of course u can use k3b to burn audio cds as well from ogg files, no need for mp3s
[22:05] <tekteen> dany: use the upgrade script
[22:05] <ardchoille> dany: If yo upgrade that way, you will end up missing some apps that are new to the nest release but weren't i the old release.
[22:05] <senorpedro> how can i see the temperature of the cpu?
[22:05] <roob_> trappist: i was more hoping for a ping -d(just example) wlan0
[22:05] <senorpedro> with which programm?
[22:05] <ardchoille> senorpedro: ksensors
[22:05] <tekteen> !upgrade | dany
[22:05] <ubotu> dany: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:05] <roob_> i know how to set the routes
[22:05] <sub[t]rnl> senorpedro: and conky
[22:06] <dany> shit.. I aready did for dapper to edgy
[22:06] <trappist> roob_: if you just ping, the kernel will route it through your default gateway
[22:06] <ardchoille> dany: If you're coming fro Dapper, I feel it's quicker and easier to just download the Gutsy livecd and do a fresh install.
[22:06] <trappist> or, through the gateway for the ip you're pinging
[22:07] <trappist> so you could just set a route for the ap, without changing your default gateway
[22:08] <dany> ardchoille: ahaha thats happend when u're noob =P
[22:08] <dany> ardchoille: i'll download da livecd
[22:09] <ardchoille> dany: Remember to backup all your personal stuff before the install :)
[22:09] <lars> whats the name of the file "system configuration/user adminsitration"
[22:09] <dany> ardchoille: thks x)
[22:10] <purpleposeidon> Hallo, I have a windows partition somewhere, how do I get grub to boot off it?
[22:11] <roob_> in those wireless docs it says if you cant connect...install wicd..but i dont have that package on 710
[22:11] <roob_> *7.10
[22:11] <roob_> and thats the prob i need to solve...i have the drivers for my wireless installed. i have the wireless interface...
[22:12] <lars> someone knows how to get access to "system config/user admin" when the button doesn't work?
[22:12] <dsl_> sorry to disurbe - this is a test -please ignore me ;-)
[22:12] <Tm_T> dsl_: what is a test?
[22:12] <jthomas> lars can you clarify?
[22:13] <ardchoille> dsl_: You can do stuff like that in #dsl_
[22:13] <dsl_> ermmmmmm i said please ignore me. kindly comply.
[22:13] <jthomas> LOL
[22:13] <Tm_T> dsl_: we are not allowed to ignore :(
[22:14] <dsl_> "we"? goodness, how many of you are there??
[22:14] <lars> jthomas: my button in systemconfiguration/user administration has stop working since I change my own user name to root group
[22:14] <dsl_> anyway, this is distracting from the topic.
[22:14] <jthomas> lars that means you are probably already root and therefor don't use that button... prob not a good change tho
[22:15] <Tm_T> dsl_: agreed, see what ardchoille said earlier ;)
[22:15] <lars> does it means I have to reinstall or something?
[22:15] <jthomas> no... can you undo the change for the root group?
[22:16] <lars> no, cant do anything in that menu
[22:16] <jembouge> hi every one
[22:16] <roob_> hmm i can even see my network by using iwlist scanning
[22:16] <Gogoacquan> hi
[22:17] <tekteen> !flash64 > tekteen
[22:17] <roob_> but if i do dhclient eth1 it doesnt get a ip
[22:17] <jthomas> lars sorry i am not sure what you mean and am not on a Kubuntu system right now...
[22:17] <Tm_T> tekteen: you can /msg ubotu too ;)
[22:17] <tekteen> ok
[22:17] <jthomas> roob_: look into iwconfig, or try using netstumbler
[22:17] <jthomas> man iwconfig
[22:18] <lars> ok thanks anyway. I have to take a long thought of it I guess
[22:18] <roob_> hmm ok jthomas....i tried using the network set up under system settings..but it didnt work....
[22:18] <jthomas> lars other people may know, or a posting at Ubuntu Forums might get you answers (or even a search there or on Google)
[22:19] <roob_> and i dont seem to have a net stumbler
[22:19] <jthomas> you would have to install it
[22:20] <lars> I'll try that. Thanks
[22:20] <cn28h> there's a linux netstumbler?
[22:20] <jthomas> there is another, non-Linux netstumbler??
[22:20] <roob_> im not sure
[22:21] <roob_> ...i can see the network using "iwlist eth1 scanning"
[22:21] <roob_> it lists my wireless network....but it wont connect...
[22:21] <cn28h> I've used a program on windows that calls itself netsumbler
[22:21] <cn28h> netstumbler, even
[22:22] <cn28h> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netstumbler
[22:22] <jthomas> in linux try Kismet, i guess its the same idea but better, but i am not sure
[22:22] <roob_> when i use the network set up under system settings....and select dhcp....i get a weird ip...
[22:22] <roob_> and there is only one wireless network in the area.
[22:22] <cn28h> right
[22:22] <roob_> hmm ok jthomas ill give it a look.
[22:25] <jthomas> IMHO the kubuntu wireless is half-baked at best.  All of the KDE part of *buntu needs attention.
[22:25] <widdal> hello
[22:26] <cn28h> yeah, I've run into a problem in knetworkmanager which seems to be fairly common :/
[22:26] <roob_> hmm...i just dont get why it can see the network but not connect....
[22:26]  * Tm_T doesn't use any "networkmanager"
[22:26] <roob_> its there...link sees it..
[22:26] <cn28h> what do you use?
[22:26] <roob_> but wont connect....
[22:26] <roob_> the correct netowork
[22:26]  * jthomas thinks Tm_T should tell us all what he uses, and help roob_ a bit
[22:26] <Tm_T> sorry, I don't use wireless
[22:27] <jthomas> lol
[22:27] <roob_> iwlist eth1 scanning     shows my network.
[22:27] <Tm_T> when I do, I just use iwconfig
[22:27] <roob_> but when it uses dhcp it gets a weird ip....
[22:27] <jthomas> define 'wierd ip'
[22:27] <Gogoacquan> hi
[22:27] <jthomas> hello!
[22:27] <romunov> i'm having trouble finding compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial
[22:27] <Gogoacquan> i tried to install thunderbird
[22:27] <roob_> a 169.x.x.x ip..when my network uses 192.x.x.x
[22:28] <Gogoacquan> but it doesnt work over the pakage manager does anyone know something about it??^^
[22:28] <jthomas> roob_: it may be a part of an internal network thing that *buntu sets up... i've had that IP before and its an Avahi/ZeroConf thing i think.
[22:28] <roob_> hmm
[22:28] <roob_> how do i disable it?
[22:29] <jthomas> when you have that 169.x.x.x IP, can you get on the web?
[22:29] <roob_> no
[22:29] <roob_> cant ping anything
[22:29] <jthomas> hm
[22:30] <roob_> i just unchecked all zeroconf things..
[22:30] <cn28h> I think the 169.x.x.x is an invalid IP
[22:31] <trappist> 169. is a zeroconf ip.  I think that happens when dhcp fails.
[22:31] <jthomas> ahh
[22:31] <cn28h> right
[22:37] <senorpedro> !cpu_temperature
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu_temperature - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:37] <roob> w00t fixed it
[22:38] <bobito> hey all, I recently installed kubuntu gutsy.  When I had feisty my external hard drive was automatically detected.  Now it doesn't.  Is this a change in the distributions and I have to play around with the mount command, or is something wrong?
[22:38] <roob> i restrict axx to the wireless network...and i had added the wrong wireless interface(this lappy has 2).....got it added now and boom works like a charm.
[22:38] <roob> very nice
[22:39] <jthomas> roob happy to hear it
[22:40] <Doctor_Nick> grrrr
[22:40] <Doctor_Nick> how do i change my default file manager from dolphin to konqueror?
[22:41] <cn28h> bobito, are you able to mount it manually?
[22:41] <stdin> !dolphin | Doctor_Nick
[22:41] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[22:44] <bobito> cn28h: I'm playing around with that now, I've never needed to mount in ubuntu, so im still trying to figure out how
[22:45] <cn28h> bobito, do you know which device is your hdd / partitions?
[22:45] <bobito> cn28h: I just ran udevmonitor, and when i unplugged the external, it went a little crazy, so im thinking its detected, just not obviously
[22:45] <cn28h> plug it in, the check dmesg
[22:46] <cn28h> s/the/then
[22:48] <bobito> cn28h: via udev i found it to be under /dev/sdb1 how do i mount it then?
[22:48] <ubuntu> hola
[22:48] <jussi01> !es | ubuntu
[22:48] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:49] <bobito> nevermind, i got it
[22:49] <romunov> i've managed to install compiz, but i don't have all the goodies mentioned on this page (i followed those instructions): http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/installing_compiz_fusion?page=0%2C1
[22:49] <bobito> thanks anyway
[22:49] <romunov> and i can't enter the compiz manager
[22:49] <romunov> any thoughts?
[22:50] <romunov> weird
[22:51] <romunov> i ran "compiz" from the console
[22:51] <romunov> and everything started to work a lot faster
[22:51] <romunov> the windows out of focus don't dim, but they minimize in a nice, animated manner
[22:51] <romunov> windows still don't wobble when i move them, though
[22:53] <anakin_> Hello all, i've been using instructions found here-->>http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php  to try and install rc2. it ends up breaking existing KDE installation while trying to resolve dependencies for oxygen stuff.
[22:53] <anakin_> Any ideas why this may be so?
[22:54] <stdin> anakin_: have you installed an older version of kde4 before?
[22:55] <anakin_> stdin: yeah, tried to
[22:55] <stdin> anakin_: make sure you remove all the packages of the old install before trying to install the new one
[22:56] <stdin> anakin_: post the apt-get output to pastebin if you still can't get it to install and I'll have a look
[22:56] <stdin> !pastebin
[22:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:56] <anakin_> stdin: yeah, but it won't matter if the packages themselves are still in cache, right?
[22:57] <stdin> anakin_: it doesn't matter if they are or not
[23:05] <maninder> whats the compiz chat room
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> #compiz-fusion
[23:18] <arriesp> hi
[23:18] <roob> hello all. how can i tell what package provided what? i need wlanctl-ng ..but dont know what provides this package
[23:18] <roob> apt-cache search returns nothing
[23:19] <stdin> roob: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com that provides a search for files in packages
[23:19] <roob> k thanks stdin
[23:20] <maninder> my drivers wont update
[23:20] <maninder> for linux
[23:21] <anakin_> stdin: everything seems to have worked fine after in removed kdelibs5 and reinstalled kde4. except that, there's no kdm4 in the login manager.
[23:22] <stdin> anakin_: you installed kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4 and kdebase-runtime ?
[23:25] <anakin_> oops. missed one.
[23:25] <maninder> how do i update drivers
[23:25] <maninder> for kubuntu
[23:31] <anakin_> gah, i just removed the clock from the panel and its now sort of shrunk :/
[23:32] <anakin_> and there seems to be no way of resizing the panel.
[23:34] <sub[t]rnl> tried right clicking on it, and configuring?
[23:35] <anakin_> won't work, found the kde4menu edit though
[23:36] <sub[t]rnl> oh, kde4
[23:36] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, configuration is still something to be desired
[23:36] <sub[t]rnl> right now the devs are happy it runs
[23:53] <enotee> how do i check what driver type my wireless card is using
[23:54] <cn28h> enotee, what wireless card are you using?
[23:56] <enotee> onboard intel on my laptop pro/wireless 2200bg
[23:56] <cn28h> ok, did you check lsmod?
[23:57] <enotee> no i didn't .. how do i do that?
[23:57] <cn28h> open a terminal and type "lsmod"
[23:57] <cn28h> look through the list
[23:58] <cn28h> if your wireless is working, you should see either ndiswrapper or your native linux driver
[23:58] <enotee> ok looking now
[23:59] <AnAirMagic> you should see ipw2200