| postg | could someone help me look at the error: http://paste.uni.cc/17831 | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| postg | I try to upgrade from 7.04 - > 7.10 | 00:11 |
| postg | I do upgrade 7.04 first, before upgrading | 00:12 |
| postg | from these error message, most likely , it is eieio/emacs error | 00:13 |
| postg | config error | 00:13 |
| postg | h eieioow can I fix it? | 00:13 |
| postg | how can I fix it? | 00:13 |
| Flare183 | might have more luck in #ubuntu-server | 00:13 |
| postg | someone on #ubuntu sugguest me doing a freash install, that's thing I cannot afford to | 00:14 |
| postg | yes, Flare183 | 00:14 |
| postg | me? | 00:14 |
| Flare183 | yeah | 00:14 |
| Flare183 | not alot of people in here | 00:14 |
| postg | but it's installer problem | 00:14 |
| postg | yes | 00:14 |
| Flare183 | yeah but it's also a server problme | 00:14 |
| Flare183 | problem | 00:14 |
| postg | twb is here | 00:14 |
| postg | he is the person who help me when I was upgrading to 7.04 | 00:15 |
| Flare183 | twb:> dude lend a hand please | 00:15 |
| Flare183 | nothing | 00:33 |
| postg | hello, should Iremove these error package first? | 00:54 |
| postg | http://paste.uni.cc/17832 | 00:54 |
| postg | thanks Flare183 | 01:05 |
| postg | I fixed it | 01:06 |
| Flare183 | yeah! | 01:06 |
| Flare183 | great | 01:06 |
| Flare183 | how? | 01:06 |
| Flare183 | lol | 01:06 |
| postg | yeah! | 01:06 |
| postg | force remove eieio | 01:06 |
| postg | so simple | 01:07 |
| postg | just try it | 01:07 |
| Flare183 | oh wow | 01:07 |
| postg | remove/eieio: purging byte-compiled files for emacs22 | 01:07 |
| Flare183 | i should of thought of that a long time ago but oh well now | 01:08 |
| Flare183 | 6 years since that error | 01:08 |
| postg | great result! | 01:08 |
| postg | dont need to reinstall, haha | 01:08 |
| twb | d-i uses the wrong driver in xorg.conf (via instead of vesa). What is the most elegant way to force it to use a particular video driver? | 02:17 |
| twb | Aha, found it: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/device/driver select ati | 02:18 |
| twb | cjwatson: ping? | 05:58 |
| twb | That didn't work, it's still using the via driver :-( | 05:58 |
| cjwatson | twb: you need to ask the X people | 08:09 |
| twb | Surely not the xorg people -- I'm pretty sure this is related the debconf code for xserver-xorg | 08:14 |
| cjwatson | which is maintained by the Debian/Ubuntu X maintainers | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | it's not part of the installer | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | (it happens to be fairly closely related, but we don't deal with it) | 08:29 |
| tjaalton | twb: which pci-id? | 09:03 |
| tjaalton | twb: do you have multiple video adapters installed? | 09:03 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, i didn't see an ack on the branch to merge. Would you like me to file a bug against user-setup so it doesn't get forgotten? | 09:06 |
| cjwatson | superm1: oh, yes, please do file a bug, I haven't looked at the branch yet | 09:16 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2389 ubiquity/ (d-i/Makefile d-i/update-control debian/changelog): | 09:16 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: * Update d-i/update-control to work with the new Dpkg::Deps module in | 09:16 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: dpkg-dev 1.14.8. | 09:16 |
| cjwatson | superm1: I'll probably actually just commit it upstream | 09:16 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, okay cool. it's a small patch too. | 09:17 |
| cjwatson | superm1: I think it would be best to add an entry for it to the templates file too | 09:17 |
| cjwatson | even though it isn't strictly required if it's only going to be used by preseeding | 09:17 |
| superm1 | yeah that's why i wasn't sure it was necessary | 09:19 |
| superm1 | i'll add that, push, and then file a bug | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | superm1: I don't think the code you added for useradd will work, not that I hugely care | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | useradd -g requires an existing group | 09:19 |
| superm1 | according to the man page the syntax looked right | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | probably needs to do groupadd separately | 09:19 |
| superm1 | oh you're right | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | syntax is fine but semantics are wrong | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | :-) | 09:19 |
| superm1 | the case that /usr/sbin/adduser isn't around, when does that come up for installations? | 09:21 |
| twb | 19:29 <cjwatson> (it happens to be fairly closely related, but we don't deal with it) | 09:26 |
| twb | cjwatson: OK. | 09:26 |
| twb | 20:03 <tjaalton> twb: which pci-id? | 09:26 |
| twb | tjaalton: I don't have the number offhand, but I spoke to the #unichrome people and they added it to their list of IDs | 09:27 |
| twb | tjaalton: the default "via" driver works, but only on the external head | 09:27 |
| twb | (It's a laptop, only one video card.) | 09:27 |
| twb | Er, and "their" means openchrome.org, not unichrome.sf.net | 09:27 |
| twb | tjaalton: here we go 17:49 <gabriel> twb: the ID is missing: (EE) VIA(0): Unknown Card-IDs (1071|8650); please report to <openchrome-users@openchrome.org> | 09:28 |
| tjaalton | we probably should follow fedora and default to unichrome.. | 09:29 |
| twb | ...so vesa works on both heads on gutsy, and svn openchrome works on gutsy+1, but via/gutsy only works on the external head. | 09:29 |
| superm1 | twb, openchrome 0.3 is available in hardy | 09:30 |
| twb | superm1: yeah, I didn't end up trying that. | 09:30 |
| cjwatson | superm1: it doesn't, in Ubuntu | 09:30 |
| cjwatson | superm1: it might do if you were producing a stripped-down Debian variant | 09:31 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, all i was saying is that I packaged up openchrome for hardy a few weeks ago | 09:31 |
| twb | cjwatson: should I be hassling the Debian X Strike Force, or some Ubuntu derivate thereof? Either way, do you know if they have a dedicated channel (maybe on OFTC)? | 09:32 |
| tjaalton | twb: #ubuntu-x | 09:32 |
| twb | Thanks. | 09:32 |
| cjwatson | superm1: I was replying to your question about adduser | 09:33 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, oh :) | 09:33 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r862 ubuntu/ (build/util/help-to-gfxboot.py debian/changelog): | 10:23 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: * Encapsulate UTF-8 encoding pain differently in | 10:23 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: build/util/help-to-gfxboot.py. (The resulting code is longer but I think | 10:23 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: the horribleness is better-positioned.) | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | excellent, my CIA bot cunning worked | 10:24 |
| cjwatson | debian-installer svn commits -> #debian-boot, bzr commits -> #ubuntu-installer | 10:24 |
| cjwatson | logic not perfect but it'll do for now | 10:24 |
| cjwatson | not sure I feel like manually writing out all the d-i subprojects though ... maybe some other day | 10:25 |
| CIA-4 | oem-config: cjwatson * r389 oem-config/ (d-i/Makefile d-i/update-control debian/changelog): | 10:26 |
| CIA-4 | oem-config: * Update d-i/update-control to work with the new Dpkg::Deps module in | 10:26 |
| CIA-4 | oem-config: dpkg-dev 1.14.8. | 10:26 |
| cjwatson | ok, automation works wonders, I think I have all the d-i components set up for CIA notifications now | 10:34 |
| cjwatson | at least all the ones with bzr imports that I know about | 10:35 |
| === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson | ||
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2390 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 12:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.31ubuntu2, | 12:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: base-installer 1.86ubuntu1, debian-installer-utils 1.50ubuntu1, | 12:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: partman-auto 73ubuntu1, partman-base 114ubuntu1, partman-basicmethods | 12:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: 36, partman-efi 14ubuntu1, partman-partitioning 54ubuntu1. | 12:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2391 ubiquity/debian/po/ (79 files): debconf-updatepo | 12:19 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2392 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 12:59 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: * Update partman extensions to cope with changes in partman-base 114 | 12:59 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: (/lib/partman/definitions.sh -> /lib/partman/lib/base.sh). | 12:59 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2393 ubiquity/debian/ (80 files in 2 dirs): mark ${PARTITIONS} untranslatable | 13:02 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2394 ubiquity/debian/ (80 files in 2 dirs): sync templates with migration-assistant changes | 13:04 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2395 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.7.2 | 13:11 |
| soren | Sheesh. Calm down. | 13:24 |
| soren | cjwatson: I'm supposed to be implementing some form of iscsi support in the installer. Can you think of any other installer components doing something like that that I could look at for inspiration? AFAIK (I'm a complete iscsi n00b), it's mostly a matter of passing some information to the iscsi initiator thing which (AFAIK) creates some block devices for the installer to use.. | 13:26 |
| cjwatson | err, sounds a little like how dmraid works, though that's a freaky hard | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | er, a freaky hack | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | or maybe the other lvm/raid stuff | 13:28 |
| soren | Hmm.. | 13:28 |
| soren | I was thinking that it should preceed all of that. | 13:28 |
| soren | All of the lvm/raid stuff needs to happen at the same time, because it can be layered like crazy. | 13:28 |
| soren | that's not the case for iscsi. It just makes some block devices available for the rest of the partitioning magic to use. | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | you could use an init.d script then | 13:32 |
| cjwatson | /lib/partman/init.d that is | 13:32 |
| soren | Sounds like a sensible place for it. I can interact with the user there? | 13:33 |
| soren | debconf style, of course. | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | in principle yes, though I don't think anything else in init.d does | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | from the sound of it, a better place would actually be disk-detect (in the hw-detect source package) | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | since it's fundamentally just a weird case of disk block device detection | 13:35 |
| soren | It is. | 13:35 |
| soren | And yes, that does sound more sensible. | 13:36 |
| soren | I'm stilling trying to get an overview of all the components and how they fit together, so I'll probably be bouncing this sort of thing off of you for a bit. Hope that's ok. | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | no problem at all | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | I know it's a bit of a maze at first | 13:37 |
| soren | Think of it as an investment :) | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | I do :) | 13:37 |
| soren | cjwatson: What's this doing at the top of disk-detect.sh? | 14:07 |
| soren | if [ "$(uname)" != Linux ]; then exit 0 | 14:07 |
| soren | fi | 14:07 |
| soren | Seems a bit superfluous :) | 14:07 |
| soren | Ah, hurd? | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | I imagine so | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | or freebsd | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | d-i doesn't actually work completely on either of those yet, but has been partially ported in places | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | might as well leave the stuff in since it's generally cheap and saves doing it again when the time comes | 14:10 |
| soren | Sure. I didn't think of the freebsd or hurd use cases and then it seemed a bit odd. | 14:11 |
| soren | cjwatson: I'm trying to work out why disk-detect get installed and called.. Any hints? | 14:38 |
| soren | cjwatson: I can't find it anywhere in any dependency chain.. d-i itself only mentions it in documention, afaics.. | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | it's got an Installer-Menu-Item control field, so main-menu calls it | 14:42 |
| cjwatson | it goes roughly in menu-item number order, modified by requirements imposed by dependencies | 14:43 |
| soren | Ah, so it does. | 14:51 |
| soren | What makes sure that it get installed at all, though? | 14:51 |
| soren | Ah, think I got it. | 15:04 |
| soren | grep is hard.. | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | soren: partman-base is Priority: standard, depends on harddrive-detection, provided by disk-detect | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | anything Priority: standard gets installed by default | 15:07 |
| soren | cjwatson: Oh. disk-detect is also mentioned in the pkg-list of debian-installer. | 15:08 |
| soren | Ah, but that just includes it in the installer, that doesn't actually install it. | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | right | 15:09 |
| soren | Ok.. Got it. | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | s/installer/initrd/ | 15:09 |
| soren | Er, yes. | 15:09 |
| soren | Ok, so all the ordering stuff mentioned here http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/talks/debconf6/paper/ is generally dictated by Installer-Menu-Item. | 15:10 |
| soren | cjwatson: I'm just looking at the code to support dmraid.. It seems to me that the only way to enable it is by preseeding.. Is that a general approach to these more exotic kinds of things, or is it merely because its considered experimental? | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | probably best not to use dmraid as an example | 15:42 |
| soren | cjwatson: Oh? | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | it's a nasty hack in a bunch of ways, one of which is the UI issue you mention | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | if you can detect whether it's sane to enable iscsi, that's a lot better | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | but if you can't detect it, then yeah, you're probably going to have to either (a) use preseeding (b) make it an optional installer components | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | s/s$// | 15:46 |
| soren | cjwatson: If I go with (b) I need to create a separate udeb, I suppose.. How would I then get access to that in the installer? | 15:47 |
| soren | Is there a way to get a list of the available udebs and the choose to install one? | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | in expert mode it'll ask | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | or you can preseed anna/choose_modules=some_extra_thing | 15:48 |
| soren | Oh, I see. | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | if it's not very much code, it would probably be easier to put it in disk-detect and have a preseed for that | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | we could even alias it ... iscsi => hw-detect/enable_iscsi or whatever | 15:49 |
| soren | I don't think it's going to be a lot of code, no, but I need to create a udeb anyway to have the userspace tools available in the installer. | 15:50 |
| soren | I didn't think of that until just now. | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | right, but that's a udeb built out of the main iscsi source package or whatever; installer integration is often separate | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | though, hmm, it would have to depend on the tools, that does suggest a separate udeb | 15:50 |
| soren | Well, the dmraid code just anna-install's the dmraid-udeb if it gets activated. | 15:51 |
| soren | I can't really decide which approach makes more sense. | 15:53 |
| soren | Doing the configuration after partman is kind of useless, I suppose, and the only way to make sure it's done prior to that is to hook it into disk-detect (or something simiar). | 15:53 |
| soren | Or? | 15:54 |
| soren | And from there conditionally install the userspace utilities using anna if the user needs iscsi. | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | <phone>, sorry | 15:58 |
| soren | I'm in a meeting myself, so no worries. | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | ok, off | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | you definitely want to do it before partman | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | using anna-install would be OK | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | that way you wouldn't need a separate udeb for the installer integration, and could just use anna-install instead of a hard dependency | 16:51 |
| soren | Exactly. | 17:00 |
| Goosemoose | Can I get my server running apt-cache to handle the security updates too? Right now the clients are looking out to the internet to download security updates and the firewall is blocking them | 20:06 |
| Goosemoose | Right now I'm using: d-i mirror/http/directory string /us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and d-i apt-setup/security_host us.archive.ubuntu.com because install wasn't working without it. Now I opened the firewall just for that client and it goes through | 20:07 |
| Goosemoose | I'd rather it get it all from the server though | 20:07 |
| soren | Goosemoose: Why not just point it at your apt-cacher? | 20:31 |
| Goosemoose | for the directory string? | 20:36 |
| Goosemoose | i had tried that a few days ago and got an error, maybe it was just a fluke, i can try it again | 20:36 |
| Goosemoose | right now i have d-i mirror/http/hostname string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:36 |
| soren | Goosemoose: No, for the security_host. | 20:37 |
| Goosemoose | so you're saying add d-i mirror/http/directory string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:38 |
| soren | No. | 20:38 |
| soren | Leave mirror/blah as is. | 20:38 |
| soren | Do: | 20:38 |
| soren | di apt-setup/security_host string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:39 |
| soren | Er.. | 20:39 |
| soren | d-i apt-setup/security_host string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:39 |
| soren | Hm.. Hang on. | 20:39 |
| soren | Oh, I see the problem now! | 20:40 |
| soren | Hah.. | 20:40 |
| Goosemoose | I'm listening :D | 20:41 |
| soren | I said I saw the problem. Not the solution :) | 20:42 |
| soren | It seems that /security is hardcoded. | 20:42 |
| Goosemoose | haha | 20:42 |
| soren | Er.. | 20:42 |
| Goosemoose | doh | 20:42 |
| soren | I mean /ubuntu | 20:42 |
| Goosemoose | ok, that would explain why i couldn't get it to work | 20:42 |
| Goosemoose | soooo, should i create a symlink called ubuntu or something to trick it? | 20:43 |
| soren | That won't work. | 20:43 |
| soren | apt-cacher doesn't look at file system paths, it just uses the first bit of the URI to know which host to actually ask for the files. | 20:43 |
| soren | Hm... I belive apt-cacher has some sort of aliasing system.. | 20:44 |
| soren | It does. | 20:44 |
| soren | You could add something like: | 20:44 |
| Goosemoose | so even if i type in d-i apt-setup/security_host string 10.0.2.131:3142 its still looking at the /ubuntu location | 20:44 |
| Goosemoose | ok, listening | 20:45 |
| soren | path_map = ubuntu security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 20:45 |
| soren | to apt-cacher.conf | 20:45 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 20:45 |
| Goosemoose | you said to leave d-i mirror/http/directory string /us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu alone? | 20:45 |
| Goosemoose | just change the security host | 20:45 |
| soren | As long as you make sure you always remember to use "/nn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" when you're not trying to get to the security stuff. | 20:45 |
| soren | Goosemoose: Yes. | 20:46 |
| Goosemoose | ok, but then wouldn't the client need access to that site? | 20:46 |
| soren | Ok, from the top: | 20:46 |
| soren | d-i mirror/http/directory string /us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 20:46 |
| soren | d-i mirror/http/hostname string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:47 |
| soren | d-i apt-setup/security_host string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 20:47 |
| soren | Those three lines will result in the following in /etc/apt/sources.list: | 20:47 |
| soren | deb http://10.0.2.131:3142/us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted blahblahbhal # This is the regular (non-security) archive | 20:48 |
| soren | deb http://10.0.2.131:3142/ubuntu gutsy main restricted blahblahbhal # This is the security archive | 20:48 |
| soren | The reason the latter works is due to the mapping we defined in apt-cacher.conf | 20:48 |
| soren | i.e. path_map = ubuntu security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 20:48 |
| Goosemoose | ok i see | 20:48 |
| Goosemoose | thanks, ill try that now | 20:48 |
| soren | What I was just pointing out was that it's an easy mistake to just put "deb http://10.0.2.131:3142/ubuntu gutsy main restricted blahblahbhal" in your sources.list if you're writing it by hand, but that will only get you the security updates, not the regular (non-security) archive. | 20:49 |
| Goosemoose | gotcha | 20:50 |
| soren | ...so you just need to keep that in mind.. Now that I've mentioned it, it might spring to mind if you start seeing a lot of stuff missing from your archive :) | 20:50 |
| Goosemoose | lol | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | there's a bug about the hardcoding of /ubuntu, it just needs to be cleaned up in a couple of places, and ideally the preseed template should go to Debian so that we don't end up diverging on its name | 21:08 |
| soren | cjwatson: You mentioned something about debconf aliases.. | 21:10 |
| soren | cjwatson: Does that just provide a means for defining short-hands for keys or is it for key *and* value? | 21:10 |
| soren | cjwatson: I.e. can we make "iscsi" on the kernel command line mean "disk-setup/iscsi/enable=true"? | 21:11 |
| cjwatson | preseed_aliases in the preseed package | 21:11 |
| cjwatson | no, I think it would have to be iscsi=true | 21:11 |
| cjwatson | but I think that would be clearer anyway | 21:11 |
| soren | Oh, definitely. | 21:11 |
| soren | The other thing would just be a bonus. | 21:12 |
| soren | Ah.. | 21:12 |
| soren | No. | 21:12 |
| soren | :) | 21:12 |
| soren | Never mind. | 21:12 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r863 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20070308ubuntu23 | 21:14 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: yes, that bug list is fine | 21:14 |
| xivulon | m,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk[-0-;plkl-;[,0m | 21:15 |
| cjwatson | same to you | 21:16 |
| xivulon | kids at the keyboard, | 21:16 |
| cjwatson | heh | 21:16 |
| xivulon | sorry | 21:16 |
| cjwatson | evand: well done on -core-dev! | 21:16 |
| soren | cjwatson: The code that grabs the stuff from the kernel commandline and turns it into preseed stuff... Where's that? greping through the preseed code for /proc/commandline doesn't give me anything. | 21:17 |
| cjwatson | it's spelled /proc/cmdline ... | 21:17 |
| cjwatson | but in any case, it actually shows up as environment variables | 21:17 |
| soren | *headdesk* | 21:18 |
| cjwatson | /bin/env2debconf, called from /lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S30env-preseed | 21:18 |
| soren | Er... say what? | 21:18 |
| soren | How does it end up as environment variables? | 21:18 |
| cjwatson | I believe the kernel puts stuff from the kernel command line in the environment by default | 21:19 |
| soren | I've never noticed that. How odd. | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | it's possible that other init implementations clear it out | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | but busybox init doesn;t | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | doesn't | 21:20 |
| soren | That doesn't add up... | 21:21 |
| soren | The init in our initramfs goes through the contents of /proc/cmdline to fish them out.. | 21:21 |
| soren | Why would it do that if they're already there? Hmm.. | 21:22 |
| cjwatson | don't recall, I just know it works. :) | 21:22 |
| soren | I'm just trying to work out if there was any simple way to magically turn "iscsi" on the kernel command line into something useful. That would really be optimal. | 21:23 |
| soren | Even if it just set it to an empty string would be usable. | 21:24 |
| cjwatson | I don't think that's a good idea; it's too likely to clash with future options parsed by the kernel itself | 21:24 |
| cjwatson | even iscsi=true is skating on thin ice there | 21:24 |
| cjwatson | all the foo/bar=blah things are safe because the kernel never uses keys containing / | 21:25 |
| soren | Hm... point. | 21:25 |
| evand | thanks cjwatson ! | 21:30 |
| evand | \o/ | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | damnit, still getting installation step failed and select and install software | 22:19 |
| Goosemoose | if i go back to the menu and click install it goes fine | 22:19 |
| Goosemoose | soren, the client still tried to access the internet via http://91.189.88.31/ubuntu/dists/gusty/Release | 22:22 |
| soren | I can't imagine why.. cjwatson is likely to have better guesses than me. | 22:27 |
| Goosemoose | cj, you still around? | 22:36 |
| Goosemoose | as soon as the install finishes here i can get the install log | 22:36 |
| soren | Goosemoose: That would be lovely. | 22:39 |
| Goosemoose | almost there | 22:42 |
| Goosemoose | ok, got the file | 23:21 |
| Goosemoose | posting it to pastebin now | 23:21 |
| Goosemoose | wow its 6 megs | 23:27 |
| Goosemoose | guess ill need to post it to my site | 23:27 |
| Goosemoose | oops only 600k | 23:30 |
| Goosemoose | was gonna say! | 23:30 |
| Goosemoose | ok its up http://www.damien-hs.edu/syslog | 23:32 |
| Goosemoose | soren or cjwatson, if you guys see the problem ,please let me know | 23:33 |
| cjwatson | Dec 18 22:18:48 in-target: E: Method http has died unexpectedly! | 23:33 |
| soren | Goosemoose: How are you running your apt-cacher? | 23:33 |
| cjwatson | looks like random network interruption, hard to say for sure | 23:34 |
| cjwatson | at any rate that's internal to apt | 23:34 |
| Goosemoose | hmm, the server and client are hooked up to the same switch | 23:34 |
| cjwatson | could be a bug in the server, sure | 23:34 |
| Goosemoose | soren, followed that apt-cacher ubuntu install guide | 23:34 |
| cjwatson | mvo would be the best person to debug that | 23:34 |
| cjwatson | if it's possible to give him a reasonably compact reproduction recipe | 23:34 |
| Goosemoose | funny thing is if i go back when i get the software install errror to the menu, then click install software it goes through | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | right, hence my "random" comment | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | it might well work fine if you ran it through again | 23:35 |
| Goosemoose | happens every time though | 23:35 |
| Goosemoose | no, ran it 5 times | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | odd | 23:35 |
| Goosemoose | i still see it attempting to go through the firewall too, though I think it's sucessfull, but I want to avoid that for the other clients. This one I gave all access to | 23:35 |
| soren | It's apt-cacher that's messing up. | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | interesting | 23:36 |
| soren | Sorry, I lost my network for a little bit. | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | hmm | 23:36 |
| soren | Dec 18 22:11:58 base-installer: 500 Can't connect to ubuntu:80 (Bad hostname 'ubuntu') | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | no problem soren | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | ok, there is no machine called ubuntu:80 | 23:36 |
| soren | Did you set those mappings as I said? | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | so why would it be connecting to that? | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | yes | 23:36 |
| cjwatson | it dies twice, so it may just not be reliable enough to last for a full install ... | 23:36 |
| soren | Goosemoose: It's apt-cacher that's trying to connect to at host called ubuntu. | 23:36 |
| Goosemoose | strange | 23:37 |
| soren | Goosemoose: because those mappings aren't taking effect. | 23:37 |
| Goosemoose | path_map = ubuntu security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 23:37 |
| Goosemoose | i have that | 23:37 |
| Goosemoose | let me pastebin my apt config | 23:37 |
| soren | Where's that guide you mentioned? | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | oh yes, I misread that as a client-side error, good catch soren | 23:37 |
| Goosemoose | i have it printed, let me find it online | 23:37 |
| soren | I don't remember if it runs as a mod_perl thing.. | 23:37 |
| Goosemoose | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-tutorials.com%2F2007%2F01%2F08%2Fsave-bandwidth-during-updates-with-apt-cacher-ubuntu-610%2F&ei=0VloR7-WOaXqpATM9-nWBA&usg=AFQjCNEK1wayl7Xg7LchBYrDNfOg910M9Q&sig2=Y0hR-ArQXrHEw20kO12sIQ | 23:38 |
| soren | If it does, you might need to restart apache for those changes to take effect. | 23:38 |
| * cjwatson knows nothing about apt-cacher and will go to bed | 23:38 | |
| Goosemoose | hmm, good point, it does run off of apache, let me try restarting apache | 23:38 |
| Goosemoose | good night cjwatson, thanks for the help | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | Goosemoose: BTW, if you want my attention, you need to say "cjwatson" for it to effectively highlight; I don't highlight just on "cj" because it would be a bit crazy | 23:38 |
| Goosemoose | sure thing | 23:38 |
| soren | cjwatson: When you've done that see what happens if you go to: http://10.0.2.131:3142/ubuntu | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | I'm on enough channels that I need mechanical assistance to keep up ;) | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | soren: not me :) | 23:39 |
| Goosemoose | let me see if i can go to that before i reboot | 23:39 |
| soren | cjwatson: Gah.. | 23:39 |
| Goosemoose | yeah i have mine on my mirc at home | 23:39 |
| soren | Goosemoose: When you've done that see what happens if you go to: http://10.0.2.131:3142/ubuntu | 23:39 |
| Goosemoose | i can see it now before i reboot apache soren | 23:39 |
| soren | What can you see? | 23:39 |
| Goosemoose | looks like a php info type page | 23:39 |
| Goosemoose | Apt-cacher version 0.1 | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | has the config settings | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | Usage: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list so all your HTTP sources are prepended with the address of your apt-cacher machine and the port, like this: | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | becomes | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | deb http://yourcache.example.com:3142/ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free | 23:40 |
| soren | Does it show the mapping? | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | no | 23:40 |
| Goosemoose | so let me reboot and then see if it does | 23:40 |
| soren | Try this: http://10.0.2.131:3142/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release | 23:42 |
| Goosemoose | ok restarted | 23:43 |
| Goosemoose | still dont see the mapping | 23:44 |
| Goosemoose | and that url never loads | 23:44 |
| soren | Odd. It works for me. I've just set the same mapping. | 23:44 |
| soren | Is your apt-cacher machine allowed to access security.ubuntu.com? | 23:44 |
| Goosemoose | hmm | 23:44 |
| soren | Firewallwise? | 23:44 |
| Goosemoose | yes, it has full access | 23:44 |
| Goosemoose | yup, looks like it's in new zealand when i ping it | 23:45 |
| soren | Did you stop and start apache? Or just reload? | 23:45 |
| Goosemoose | restart | 23:46 |
| soren | Goosemoose: That's very odd. | 23:46 |
| Goosemoose | ill try stop/start, should be the same | 23:46 |
| soren | Goosemoose: Mine shows it just fine on that page. | 23:46 |
| Goosemoose | http://pastebin.com/d7a66ab5 | 23:47 |
| Goosemoose | there's my apt conf file | 23:47 |
| soren | Looks about right. | 23:48 |
| Goosemoose | hmm | 23:48 |
| Goosemoose | i dont have to restart apt right? | 23:48 |
| Goosemoose | it restarts with apache? | 23:48 |
| Goosemoose | hmm | 23:51 |
| Goosemoose | oh you can restart apt-cacher direclty, just a sec | 23:53 |
| Goosemoose | im running sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitiude upgrade and it seems to be d/l a lot of security files | 23:54 |
| Goosemoose | by the way, running sudo all the time is a huge PIA! | 23:54 |
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