[00:19] hi, anyone here that would have anyidea why i used to be able to connect to my mythbuntu box with vnc, and now I can't? [00:20] how long ago did it work? [00:23] like 2 days ago [00:23] or 1 day ago [00:23] i haven't really done anything to the box since then [00:23] is your vnc server enabling xfixes? [00:24] uhhh no idea, i just turned on VNC Server through the Control center and it was working [00:24] Hi Guys, anyone know of some instructions to get a PVR-500 to work? [00:25] i thought the pvr-500s and 150s worked out of the box [00:26] that's what I had hoped, but I just added one and can't seem recognise it. Do I need to tell something to resan the hardware? [00:27] added a pvr-500 after an install? [00:27] yes... [00:27] i've never added hardware after an install. If I end up adding something, I always just start from a clean install and it works. Sorry i can't help you [00:27] I like this thing so much I needed more tuners (been using a single WinTV one) [00:28] no prob, I've backed up my MySQL so I can just restore my shows [00:29] you can try to sudo modprobe ivtv, but I didn't think that was necessary anymore [00:29] what did you have hw wise before? [00:30] I thought that hal scanned the hardware on boot and added new stuff [00:30] check how many /dev/videoX devices you have [00:30] Single WinTV framegrabber [00:30] yeah it does [00:31] ran the mod probe [00:31] rhpot1991: remember my question from a few days ago about my video card? [00:31] dunno, refresh [00:31] no dev/video [00:31] i still don't have an overscan optino in nvidia-settings, and it is cutting off the left and right edges by like an inch or less [00:31] is there anyway to fix it without an overscan option? [00:32] did you try to fire up the nvidia control pannel on the tv itself? [00:32] I think I recall it not giving me all the options when I fired it up in vnc [00:32] yea [00:32] still no overscan options [00:32] maybe its an issue with the 8500 [00:32] because that guy on the ubuntuforums post had the same problem [00:32] hmmm, try adding the values by hand in your xorg config? [00:33] are you sure you aren't using the open source drivers too? [00:33] i have it enabled and its "in use" according to the gui [00:33] anyone know which branch on https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu I should grab if I'm interested in the source for the frontend? [00:33] i havne't tried adding the valuse in xorg config by hand though [00:34] I didn't have this type of card when I build this box, is there something else that would need to be installed? [00:34] MythbuntuGuest88, nothing else needs to be installed [00:34] MythbuntuGuest88, check dmesg for anything about ivtv [00:34] its kinda hard to do now, becuase for some reason my VNC server isn't working ... i t/o when trying to connect to the box [00:35] MythbuntuGuest88, and its not /dev/video, it would be like /dev/video0 /dev/video1 [00:35] also, my smbfs fstab mount, doesn't get mounted [00:35] superml, I did a ls|grep video in the dev directory and it didn't return anything [00:36] MythbuntuGuest88, okay then checkout dmesg [00:36] and see whats up [00:36] also, i can't ssh into the box .... i think something is up with my networking [00:37] Encoder mailbox not found, error -19 on initialization [00:38] MythbuntuGuest88, try to reseat the card [00:38] and put it in a different slot [00:39] hansoffate: you got all sorts of problems [00:39] I hear that there is something else to use instead of smbfs cffs or something [00:39] rhpot1991: ugh, i have noidea what the hell appened [00:39] cifs [00:40] smbfs has been deprecated for about 4 years [00:40] oh? [00:40] * superm1 should stop using it... [00:40] ok [00:40] so i hsould use cifs? [00:40] i think i noticed everything died when i edited my fstab to use smbfs [00:40] or around that time... im not sure if thats what killed it [00:43] just comment the line out, though it shouldn't matter if you didn't mount it [00:44] trying to get my network share (it has my videos and musik) to be able to play through mythtv. I'll comment it out and restart the box and see if that fixes my problem with being able to connect to the box with vnc [00:45] if it does get fixed, i'll try changing it to cifs or something [00:46] fstab shouldn't break that other stuff though [00:47] then i have no idea why i can't connect via vnc now [00:48] thats the only change i have made [00:48] try rebooting your router and seeing if you can ping the box? [00:49] hmm, i just tried to ping the box from herre [00:49] PING 192.168.1.109 (192.168.1.109): 56 data bytes [00:49] ping: sendto: No route to host [00:49] ping: sendto: Host is down [00:53] this is frustrating, im going to go lay down for a bit and think about this. thanks for the help guys. [00:54] moved pvr-500 to another slot and repeated steps, diffrent error, tried a third slot and was back to the fist error [01:02] still getting encoder mailbox not found.... [01:38] Anyone know much about ivtv firmware for a pvr-500? [01:42] hi, every time i try to install mythbuntu it freezes. [01:42] i can't even get to the desktop where you can run from cd or install [01:42] i can install many different linux distros fine [01:44] i've tried redownloading and burning multiple disxs [01:44] Have you tried the 2nd option on the CD? Thats what I have to use.. [01:44] "safe graphics mode"? [01:44] yes, sorry... [01:44] i think i did...i'll give it a go. about how long can until i'm brought to the desktop where you can install or run from cd [01:44] usually it only takes a few minutes on other distros. this is very frustrating. i'm about to buy a windows xp oem disc because this isn't working [01:47] is anyone using a pcie card that provides hdmi (with the sound) out? [01:47] via like spdif [03:02] Best place to buy a cheap IR receiver? [03:05] Hi anyone know why turning on opengl vsync causes my screen to get corrupted with green pixelated blocks Running nvidia6600 pcx. [03:12] hey guys i have an odd one more than likely due to the new nvidia driver [03:12] when I turn on opengl vsync in mythtv playback settings I get green pixelated blocks all over my screen [03:13] I am using nvidia 6600pcx with restricted drivers. I turned of vsync blitter in nvidia settings [03:13] tgm4883 or rhpot1991 you guys around? [03:14] yesy [03:15] tgm4883 can you enable opengl vsync without issues? [03:15] Anybody using the USB UIRT as an IR receiver? I'm just wondering if it works okay. [03:15] how do you connect to the tv again? [03:15] oh component out [03:15] sec let me try [03:15] it may take awhile [03:15] ok [03:15] as i can only do things when im dead :) [03:16] dead as in not watching tv? [03:16] dead as in im playing gears of war [03:16] i used to always use 8756 but I think mythbuntu is running 100. something [03:16] gears of war have it just havent had chance to play [03:24] ok, what do you want me to set? [03:25] opengl vsync [03:25] in settings tv playback [03:25] ah [03:25] and turn on deinterlacing [03:25] kernel [03:26] min [03:28] deinterlacing kernel? [03:28] alexvd, ^^ [03:28] yep [03:28] does it work for you? [03:29] what is deinterlacing kernel? [03:29] its one of the dienterlacing options [03:30] you will see bob kernel [03:30] linear blend etc [03:30] oh [03:30] what about bob (2x framerate) [03:31] i dont need that [03:31] does it work for you when you enable [03:31] i think its a bug in the nvidia driver version [03:32] sorry tgm got knocked off [03:33] sec [03:33] then play what? [03:33] just launch livetv [03:34] does it work? [03:34] and what version of the nvidia driver are you running? [03:34] I am running 100.14.19 [03:34] sec [03:36] works here [03:37] using 9639 from the repos [03:37] which driver do you use? [03:37] yeah i think its the driver [03:37] i am running the latest for some reason 100.14.19 [03:37] nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new? [03:37] hmm [03:37] let me look [03:38] driver says nvidia [03:39] driver in xorg is just "nvidia" [03:39] why does that matter? [03:39] and where are you looking? [03:39] synaptic [03:39] becuase -new is different [03:39] what is -new [03:39] and people use that when I think they are not supposed to [03:40] I think it's for higher end cards [03:40] ok [03:40] ie, 8800 [03:40] but people see new and have to install it [03:40] oh [03:40] i just went with the stock install [03:40] and then updates came down [03:40] or they think cause they just bought the card thats what they should use [03:40] i didnt even check to see what updates were installed [03:41] it probably installed the latest nvidia driver and thats why it is running 100.14.19 [03:41] well nvidia-glx the newest version is 9359 [03:41] strange [03:41] err, 9639 [03:42] mine is an onboard nvidia 6100 [03:42] just FYI [03:44] yep that is what is installed [03:44] new [03:44] stupid stupid [03:44] man if downgrade driver [03:44] will it screw up my xorg file [03:47] tgm thanks for the help i appreciate it [03:51] motherfligger it is asking to start in low graphics mode and i dont have keyboard and monitor plugged in shit [03:51] pain in the ass [04:18] Can anyone help me out with volume/mute in MythTV? Neither are having an affect in my install. [04:20] Iolaus, use your tv's volume/mute [04:20] or is that not an option? [04:22] it is an option, but I'd prefer to control it all from 1 remote [04:24] what remote? [04:24] Is anyone else having issues searching IMDB with mythvideos [04:27] foxbuntu, Is anyone else having issues searching IMDB with mythvideos [04:27] tgm4883_laptop, not that I am aware of [04:27] :( [04:28] stupid imdb/something else thats broken [04:33] the remote is an ATI Remote Wonder [04:34] When I adjust volume or mute it shows up on the OSD but doesn't affect the volume [04:36] Iolaus, it will only change the actual volume if you are using internal MythTV audio controls [04:37] foxbuntu: I'm afraid I'm not following [04:38] Iolaus, MythTV has its own set of audio controls or you can pass it all to the Alsa/OSS controls [04:38] depends how you have it setup [04:38] ah, and it will only work in one of those situations? [04:38] it will only work if you use the MythTV controls [04:39] foxbuntu: is there any downside to using the MythTV controls? [04:39] I have had issues in the past [04:39] with audio quality [04:40] You can try it and see what you think [04:40] Is there an easy way to switch? [04:40] yes...its in the setup menus for MythTV [04:41] Cool [04:41] Do you know if not being able to control Alsa volume is a problem or is it just a development constraint? [04:42] Hmm... for audio output device in the setup menu I have: ALSA:default, /dev/dsp, and /dev/adsp [04:43] Iolaus, its the interface between lirc and gnome [04:43] ...or rather the lack of one [04:43] ah, and Myth isn't able to control the volume of ALSA? [04:43] no [04:43] sure it is [04:44] superm1, ? [04:44] the issues come when you jam your mixers at 100 percent [04:44] superm1: how so? [04:44] Iolaus, as in you turn up the master mixer and pcm mixer to 100 percent volume [04:44] it saturates [04:45] that would probably be what foxbuntu is referring to with the "lower qualitY" [04:45] but why would that prevent MythTV from muting audio? [04:45] does your sound card not have those two mixers? [04:45] some dont have master and/or pcm [04:47] it does have pcm [04:47] although I'm using analog outputs [04:47] but does it have master? [04:47] oh the analog outputs are independent of pcm? [04:47] yes [04:47] then that would be your issue right there [04:48] my recommendation would be to modify the volume on your receiver instead [04:48] hmm... no way to get MythTV to control the volume of the "Front" Playback output? [04:49] not without modifying the source unfortunately [04:49] I guess it isn't the end of the world for me if not. I'm using the analog out temporarily till I get support for audio over HDMI [04:49] i have the same issue with one of my sound cards [04:49] interesting [04:49] maybe it'll be added in the future [04:49] so instead i'm using spdif [04:49] gotcha [04:49] and modifying oh the receiver [04:49] since my remote can learn vol+/vol- from my receiver remote [04:50] it really is a great remote [04:50] unfortunately, the remote I'm using is RF I believe [04:50] the only way it could be better is if it could read my mind [04:50] I think I'll be switching for some kind of tablet pc remotes eventually [04:51] * tgm4883_laptop writes a new blueprint for foxbuntu [04:55] do you guys have any suggestions for making the text on the OSD look better? [04:55] mind looks kinda crappy [04:56] hi i downgraded from the 100.14.19 nvidia driver to the 9631 driver and now it keeps booting into low graphics mode and asking to configure. I dont have a keyboard and mouse on this box and now I can vnc in. The xorg file is correct but it doesnt load properly. I have a 6600 nvidia card connected via componenent out [04:57] i tried to connect the old monitor but when I did it didnt allow me to configure the secondary tv out monitor for 1920x 1080i like in the setup screens [04:59] tgm4883_laptop, thanks...I need more blueprints...I only have 5 [05:01] np [05:01] All is this some kind of bug. All I did was downgrade the driver. [05:02] tgm4883_laptop: can you help I downgraded the driver to 9631 and I cant get x to load properly [05:02] alexvd, how did you have the newer one installed [05:02] and how did you install this older one [05:03] default install and then I guess somehow the ubuntu updates must have taken it to 100.14.19 [05:03] so whatever comes with mythbuntu then it must have been upgraded by the update manager [05:03] okay so which package was installed? [05:03] nvidia-glx-new? [05:03] or nvidia-glx? [05:03] the nvidia-glx-new [05:03] 100.14.19 [05:04] okay so you switched to the nvidia-glx package then? [05:04] yes [05:04] okay and have you looked over /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:04] and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old? [05:04] yes [05:04] to see why it can't start [05:04] let me look at old [05:04] (particularly the .old one) [05:06] ok so i get two errors failed to initialize the nvidia kernel please ensure that there is supported nvidia gpu [05:06] and screens found but none have usable configuration [05:06] was just working fine with 100.14.19 [05:07] again i have this connected via the tvout componenet [05:07] okay so nvidia-glx doesn't support your GPU it sounds like [05:07] whereas nvidia-glx-new did [05:07] nvidia 6600 [05:07] i doubt that very much [05:08] i'm assuming you've rebooted so the proper kernel module would load on boot? [05:08] i get fatal server error [05:08] no screens found [05:08] well wasn't working "just fine" [05:08] yes I rebooted several time [05:09] Yes it wasnt working because of the bug in 100.14.19 that caused screen corruption when opengl vsync was enabled [05:09] However I could get X to load and watch sdtv and hdtv [05:10] So does 9631 handle component tv out different than 100.14.19. [05:11] they don't handle them any differently [05:11] the big difference is just the supported GPUs list [05:12] Ok because older drivers didnt support meta modes etc.. and you couldnt specify component out [05:13] well its telling you though that the issue is the kernel module [05:13] so even if that was the problem (component out), it is irrelevant [05:14] Shoot so I looked at the xorg and its exactly the same. However its not finding the screen. When I installed it I used my crappy old monitor 800x600 with the component dongle connected and the setup allowed me to specify tv out component for 1080i. When i connected my monitor again it had a vesa driver selected and when i tried to select the nvidia driver restricted for 6600 it allowed me but the secondary monitor onl [05:14] y allowed for generic and then 1600x1200 [05:15] look if you can't modprobe the nvidia module, you're not going to get much further [05:16] well in the log it says it unloaded the nvidia module [05:16] sudo modprobe nvidia [05:16] is that what i should do to check? [05:18] I probably downgraded improper. All i did was click on install the glx version. synaptic then removed the glx-new driver. Should I go back and completely remote the driver and then reinstall or just do a manual install of the 9631 driver [05:19] well you should start out by headed to nvidia.org, and checking that your particular card is supported by 9631 [05:20] i will [05:20] Anybody using the USB UIRT as an IR receiver? I'm just wondering if it works okay. [05:24] superm1: any idea why my 8500 isn't giving me the option of overscan? [05:24] no [05:24] k [05:24] thanks [05:28] hansoffate: overscan doesn't work with progressive output [05:28] Can anyone tell me if I'm supposed to be using "Use the PVR-350's TV out / MPEG decoder" with my WinTV-PVR-USB2 (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-PVR-USB2)? [05:28] hansoffate: Are you using progressive or interlaced output from your video card? [05:28] I'm not sure if I'm getting hardware decoding or not [05:29] levander: im using svideo [05:29] nvidia-settings isn't giving me the option to change overscan. [05:29] is that what you are asking? [05:30] hansoffate: I think I was doing 480p over svideo once. But, you're saying you're doing interlaced? [05:30] hansoffate: What's the "TVOutFormat" in xorg.conf? [05:30] Iolaus, no youre not [05:30] thanks [05:30] superm1: 6600 supported under 1.0.9631 [05:30] alexvd, you're variant of it though? [05:30] GT,GTX etc? [05:30] nope vanilla fanless for htpc [05:31] hansoffate: Actually, I'm not sure if its TVOutFormat or TVStandard, it's named something like that. [05:31] superm1: you meant that I'm not supposed to enable that feature [05:31] Iolaus, no need to enable it [05:31] levander: uh, i can't ssh to my box right now .... im going to try resetting my router [05:31] brb [05:32] levander you can also do it in mythtv settings you can adjust overscan [05:32] levander: thanks for giving me some trouble shooting tips, brb [05:32] alexvd: oh really? [05:32] where? [05:32] alexvd: tell hansoffate that [05:33] hansoffate: When you do it inside Myth, it only affects where Myth displays itself on the monitor. Not where your desktop displays it. [05:33] Which is good enough for most cases. [05:33] levander: really into two places one by modifying the actuall pixel size [05:33] i see, well there is only about less then an inch that i need to correct [05:33] alexvd: It's hansoffate asking about this stuff. I was just trying to help him. [05:34] yea [05:34] ok [05:34] where is it? i am in settings [05:34] hansofatte: its settings appearance [05:35] sorry cant get into my box right now [05:35] k, its a bit hard to read the options ... considering some of the text is cut off, but i'll try figuring it out [05:36] i see ___ width px, ____ Height px:, ____ x offset, y offset: [05:36] going to try changing x offset [05:37] hansofatte: try in the tv playback setting first overscan [05:37] hansoffatte: the general appearnce will modify the whole gui and playback screen if you check that option [05:38] hansoffatte so try the playback settings first if you just want Tv [05:40] playback settings? i changed Gui X Offset to 20, and it has helped fix it [05:41] Man this nvidia driver thing is pissing me off. I am going to give up for now. Man the reason I switched from knoppmyth to mythbuntu was because i was hoping it would be easier but the problems are similar. I guess debian linux is debian linux. [05:41] alexvd: it seems like it is working [05:42] Hansoffatte: Like I said if it is just your TV playback you can adjst the overscan setting in the tv settings overscan percentages field if you hold gui and menus are cut off or offset than you can use the Apperance and modify the pixels. Note you can also run seperate gui for menu and tvplayback [05:43] tv playback is fine, its my GUI and menus that are being cut off [05:43] alexvd: [05:43] hansofatte; glad to help write those down in case you have to reinstall. [05:44] i have only had to reinstall a few times :) [05:45] GUI x Offset: 50, Gui y Offset: 25, now i can read the left menus, but it has moved the whole gui to the left and down by that man pixels, so now im missing stuff on the right [05:45] should i try chaninging Gui Width (px) and Gui Height (px) from 0 [05:46] ACK!!! Help! After I set the PVR-350 Hardware decoding option on earlier (and since put it back) I can't watch TV [05:46] Hansoffatte: yeah I am afraid so although please be aware that will actually lower your resolution a bit if you care. I found an easy way to get it centered is to VNC in from another machine and then you can see how off it is [05:47] well the screen supports 1920 X 1080, should i put that in as Gui width/height? [05:47] im pretty sure that the desktop resultion isn't set as that [05:47] right so start at 1920 and then go backwards 1880 [05:48] might want to go back and zero the offset [05:48] and then adjust [05:48] after you get the proper size [05:48] Does anyone know how I can troubleshoot this no tv problem? [05:48] I have no idea what the hell happened. Everything was working and now this :( [05:49] Iolaus: dont have pvr350 but I would check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [05:49] also disable the option in the menu [05:50] alexvd: i wish i could vnc, but for some reason, my mythbuntu box stopped accepting connections in. I can't VNC or SSH. but that's a whole different problem [05:51] hansofatte: ok just eyeball it then [05:51] ok good luck [05:51] alexvd: I've disabled the option but it seems to have screwed up my back-end somehow [05:51] oh oh.... now i can't even see the setup menu [05:51] hahaha [05:52] Iolaus: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart [05:52] i just see the top left corner of the screen. [05:52] alexvd: tried a restart [05:53] Hansoffate: thier is a way via command line to reset to defaults if you need to search google [05:53] alexvd: my resolution is set to 1024x768 .. .even though its 16:9 and it can support up to 1920X1080 [05:54] I'm getting this in the back-end log: 2007-12-17 23:51:55.252 RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1002_20071217235133.mpg) Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()' [05:54] and: 2007-12-17 23:51:55.252 RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1002_20071217235133.mpg) Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()' [05:54] Iolaus sounds like you have wrong mpeg setup I dont think you want hardware decoder support [05:54] ack, meant this: MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: select timeout - ivtv driver has stopped responding [05:54] any ideas? [05:55] Iolaus sorry no search gossammer threads mythtv users [05:55] hansofatte: why do you ahve 1024x768 if the native display is 1920x1080 then you should run that [05:56] when i click on settings, the max i can have is 1025x768 [05:56] Are you running component dvi or vga [05:56] via svideo [05:57] your limited to 480p [05:57] so you are not going to be able to run 1920X768 [05:57] k [05:57] you could run 720X480 [05:57] k [05:58] 800x600 [05:58] is good for svga i think [05:58] svideo sorry [05:58] does your tv have component or dvi or [05:59] if so you defintely want to connect that way [06:00] it supports dvi, im actually setting this up for my grandpa. anyways, he has audio out going to a reciever in the main room. He mainly likes the Streaming music and being able to play it in the main room. (the tv is in his office). For some reason, when you have it connected with DVI, it doesnt use the audio out, but when connected with Svideo, it does use the audio output. [06:00] hansoffate: run 800x600 [06:01] i have to goto bed [06:04] whew, back-end server reboot fixed it [06:04] I think ivtv was screwed [06:04] so, now back to asthetics [06:04] would changing the OSD font make it look better? [06:05] currently some letters overlap [06:07] It's currently set to FreeSans.ttf [06:10] nevermind, found some info in the mailinglists [06:19] whats the xorg config for overscan? [06:52]