/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/18/#ubuntu-ops.txt

elkbuntueffie_jayx, im sitting in -ve now, but i'm going to be away from 2hrs time until 6 hours time00:04
effie_jayxelkbuntu,  :D00:05
effie_jayxelkbuntu,  just in case00:05
effie_jayx;)00:05
elkbuntu:)00:05
effie_jayxthings that bugs me is the bunch of lurkers that come check the site00:11
elkbuntuah00:13
justin420hi all. anybody in here answer a question about how long i am gonna be banned from #ubuntu?00:35
LjLjustin420: why were you banned?00:35
justin420i got banned for saying something when i got spammed by someone to try freebsd00:36
LjLjustin420, i can understand frustration due to trolls/spammers... however, i also unfortunately have to understand frustration due to the fact that those trolls cause a never-ending follow-up of comments by channel users00:38
LjLand that we have hardly any hope of making those channel users understand that that's what the trolls *want*00:38
LjLso, i really cannot justify your response to my request to stop commenting00:38
justin420so i am permanently banned then?00:40
LjLjustin420, any ban can technically be removed at any time00:41
PriceChildjustin420, In future I would suggest reading the immediate scrollback. It was explained what had just happened, and requested that users ignore it.00:41
PriceChildjustin420, I would also suggest you "/msg ubotu guidelines", and don't tell other users to "shut up"00:42
justin420LjL:i understand that. i had a buddie who was an op in a dalnet; he kinda tought me a little bit about op stuff.00:42
PriceChildDidn't I just ban Phision? ikonia am I going mad?00:42
LjLjustin420, uhm, this is not dalnet though... and while i don't know dalnet very well, i can make a guess and suggest that we might be a little less, uhm, anarchic00:42
PriceChild*Phusion00:42
ikoniaPriceChild: I thought you dead00:43
ikoniaPriceChild: I thanked too early by the looks of things00:43
justin420PriceChild: sorry, i didnt see that, but if I am allowed back in i will be sure to keep that in mind.00:43
ikoniaPriceChild: must have been a kick only or an ip evade00:43
ikoniahmmm whowas suggests and ip change00:43
LjLevade00:43
PriceChildikonia, previous hostname had "static" in it...00:44
PriceChildthis was on purpose00:44
justin420LjL: i know this is not dalnet; i was just trying to make a comparison to removing a ban at anytime thing. :)00:44
ikoniaagreed00:44
ikoniaPriceChild: spot on, it's an evade00:45
LjLjustin420, however, even considering you hadn't noticed the scrollback (can happen), do you think it's reasonable to complain that ops should do their job better, when they're doing it all for free and were in reality struggling with get those spammers out of the channel?00:45
LjLare you so surprised at my reaction of politely telling you to avoid commenting?00:45
PriceChildLjL, Phusion is back again.. :/00:46
ikoniahe's change ip again00:46
ikoniahe's got a script00:46
ikoniachanges his host00:46
LjLPriceChild: don't ban00:46
Tm_Twho?00:46
PriceChildLjL, indeed00:46
PriceChildLjL, staff?00:46
ikoniatotally different network host now00:47
LjLPriceChild: they can't do anymore than network-wide banning00:47
LjLhe's on shells00:47
PriceChildSo what do we do?00:47
LjLPriceChild: wait00:47
PriceChild:)00:48
justin420i think its nice that all the ops do what they do, i wouldnt mind being one someday; but that will probably never happen. i also enjoyed helping others in that channel when i could contribute.00:48
PriceChildjustin420, did you read the irc guidelines? (i provided an ubotu trigger earlier)00:48
LjLfurther read even00:49
LjL!etiquette00:49
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...00:49
justin420PriceChild: yup00:49
LjLjustin420: now, this is not said anywhere in the guidelines00:50
LjLbut please00:50
LjLwhen someone is trolling hard or spamming, call !ops on the bot (use that ONLY in emergencies)00:50
LjLand avoid any other comment about it00:50
LjLthat's just helping the troll00:50
justin420LjL: dont be an ass to others? :) especially when they got bigger fish to fry?00:50
LjLjustin420, that's not the point00:51
LjLthe point is that what trolls and spammers want is to pollute the channel by *making people talk about them*00:51
justin420so like !ops <nick>00:51
LjLmore like !ops | nick due to syntactical reasons00:51
LjLbut yes00:51
LjLjustin420: you see, we're pretty eager to keep the channel free from trolls and such entities. but the users need to help, not only by warning us of trolls, but most importantly *by not playing their game*00:52
justin420LjL: yeah; keeping a good channel is a strong quality of your product/ethics/community00:53
LjLalso, between you and me, calling me a little bitch doesn't help. i'll unban you now, don't be surprised though if you're kept under a closer watch than other users. please go nice by the rules, and you won't get any further annoyances. ok justin420?00:53
justin420yup00:54
justin420thanks LjL00:54
justin420:)00:54
PriceChildGreat.00:55
LjLshame too late for phusion00:55
LjLhe'll have a little surprise next time he joins though00:55
Tm_TLjL: that is?00:56
Tm_Taaaa :))00:56
ikoniahe's trying hard00:57
ikoniabless him00:57
PriceChildLjL, I would assume he is watching under a different shell.00:57
Tm_Tsure00:57
ikoniais timbooooo him00:57
Tm_Tikonia: ?00:57
PriceChildI love the way they always try and keep the same nick.00:57
LjLPriceChild: then if he's not a stupid troll he'll still join here and try to talk us into compromising.00:57
tonyyarussoPriceChild: Does the IRC Council have / want any jurisdiction over LoCo channels?00:57
ikoniaTm_T: the user timbooo00:57
Tm_Tikonia: aah, interesting00:57
LjLaaaagh00:57
LjLbanlist is full00:58
PriceChildtonyyarusso, we have juristiction over loco channels00:58
ikoniaI think it is00:58
PriceChildhowever you say it00:58
ikoniausername goatsex00:58
LjLok i'll remove freenode.net's set ban that looks like non-static, as usual *sigh*00:58
ikoniaheads up on  Timbooooo00:58
ikonia(thats the correct ammount of ooo's"00:58
tonyyarussoPriceChild: Is it recommended to add the council's nick to the access list, like for freenode/staff/*?00:58
Tm_Tikonia: the one I removed?00:58
ikoniayou got him00:59
tonyyarusso%login00:59
ikoniawow - this guy wants back in bad00:59
ubotuOK00:59
tonyyarusso@btlogin00:59
LjLtonyyarusso: it is "suggested"00:59
=== qmario_ is now known as QMario
Tm_Tikonia: who?00:59
tonyyarussoand what is that nick again?  /me forgot00:59
LjLubuntuirccouncil01:00
ikoniaphusion01:00
ikonia@tm_t01:00
Tm_Tikonia: okie01:00
LjLikonia: wait, i banned a live one?01:00
ikoniaheads up on jughead01:00
ikoniaLjL: I don't think so01:00
ikoniaLjL: could be wrong01:00
tonyyarussook01:00
somerville32Might want to check out #ubuntu-server01:03
Tm_Tsomerville32: yes?01:03
somerville32[20:46] * kgoetz gives up.01:04
somerville32[20:46] <fujin_> thank fuck for that01:04
somerville32[20:46] <kgoetz> !tell fujin_ about coc01:04
somerville32[20:46] <fujin_> !tell kgoetz i don't give a fuck01:04
somerville32[20:46] <fujin_> oh snap01:04
somerville32[20:46] <fujin_> !tell kgoetz about man01:04
somerville32[20:46] <kgoetz> your in ubuntu chanel here, not debian...01:04
somerville32[20:47] <kgoetz> *an ubuntu01:04
somerville32[20:48] <fujin_> regardless of where I am, I believe 'rtfm' explains what I was trying to achieve.01:04
ikoniathey are all in tonight01:04
* LjL doesn't have access01:04
PriceChildLjL, there's a little more space01:04
* tonyyarusso cleaned his as well01:10
tonyyarussoI don't know about the rest of you folks, but I only have one ban still active in there - how many are you keeping around?01:11
PriceChildhmmm I have a lot of bans there01:11
ikoniaPriceChild: I lost count of yours01:12
LjLtonyyarusso, i generally keep a one-month window01:13
LjLbut the bulk of the bans is attributed to freenode.net01:14
LjLi cleaned my part of that recently with the help of the bantracker... was kinda painful01:14
tonyyarussoThose are netsplit-related, no?01:14
PriceChildyup01:14
PriceChilddepends what server you're on as to which show up01:14
LjLi think they're server death related rather01:15
LjLi don't think a simple netsplit causes that01:15
PriceChildThat would make more sense I guess.01:16
PriceChildsomerville32, -server contact is online.01:20
LjLikonia: i do have "away" on highlight.01:26
ikoniano doubt01:26
* PriceChild usually just removes them01:28
ikoniaugh, I'm getting scrappy, good night01:28
Tm_Tubotu is sluggish01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is sluggish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:44
Tm_Term01:45
atoponceheh01:54
varwhat's the deal with the ban?02:13
vari guess i swore, but just an autoban without even a warning?02:14
LjLcaught in the act.02:16
LjLhow are you phusion02:16
telooks like my shell host is banned in #ubuntu, could someone please clear up the ban to be user-specific instead of host-wide02:17
varphusion?02:17
vari know a phusion on another server02:17
LjLgateways are not allowed in #ubuntu, sorry02:17
varthat sucks :\02:18
Tm_Thow?02:18
varbut um, can i get an unban in ubuntu please02:18
Tm_Tvar: if you ask from me, not yet02:19
LjLif you ask from me, not ever02:19
LjLand same goes for te02:19
varwhy not?02:19
LjLbecause you *are* te.02:19
vardude look at why im banned, i swore one time02:19
varim not flooding the channel or spamming or something02:20
Tm_T:p02:20
ardchoilleI remember that host from somewhere and it isn't a good memory02:20
ardchoille@blinkenshell.org02:20
mneptoktons of clients from that host this past year02:21
ardchoilleNow I remember, they give out free shell accounts (irssi enabled) to anyone who asks02:22
LjL[03:22:42] <te> ljl just remove the ban on blinkenshell, it has a userbase of like 10 people, and that's fine if you wanna keep the ban on silenceisdefeat02:23
LjL[03:22:49] <te> i wasn't aware of the gateway rule02:23
LjL[03:23:08] <LjL> i'll turn them both into forwards to #ubuntu-proxy-users, as with other proxies02:23
Tm_Tthat's reason to ban it per se02:23
Tm_Tyuh02:23
* Hobbsee waves02:23
Tm_THobbsee: hi :)02:24
* somerville32 hugs Hobbsee 02:24
Hobbseeheya somerville3202:24
* mneptok deflates Hobbsee 02:24
* Hobbsee carves mneptok into a thousand pieces02:25
mneptoki'm bite-sized!02:25
Hobbseeyeah, but i doubt people will eat you...02:25
LjLchanserv... come on now, what's going on with you and this network tonight02:25
PiciOh no 3 ljls02:26
LjLPici: network's laggy as hell02:26
Tm_THobbsee: how are you?02:28
HobbseeTm_T: good!  new car is nice!02:31
Tm_Theh02:31
Tm_Tcruisin' ?02:31
Hobbseeyup02:31
Tm_T:)02:31
Tm_TI might buy a car when I get my retirement02:32
Hobbseemine got hailed.02:32
Tm_Tnever had a car02:34
tonyyarussoHobbsee: identical or different car entirely?02:35
Hobbseetonyyarusso: different entirely02:35
tonyyarussofun02:35
Hobbseetonyyarusso: see http://photos.hobbsee.mailbolt.com/Car/ (p/w is sarah)02:37
tonyyarussoHobbsee: Join the club!  (My family has four red cars.)02:44
Tm_THobbsee: now whole world knows your password ;(02:45
HobbseeTm_T: yeah, logs occasionally get grepped by google02:45
Tm_Tyu02:45
* Hobbsee would just prefer all the images do not get linked by google02:45
Hobbseetonyyarusso: that's an orange car.  the other 2 are red.02:45
atlfalcons866so now my ubuntuforums account is ban02:48
atlfalcons866ed02:48
tonyyarussoatlfalcons866: That would be an issue for the Ubuntu Forums moderators, not us.02:49
atlfalcons866yeah02:49
atlfalcons866i still dont why i am banned from ubuntu irc02:49
atlfalcons866for sumthing i didnt do02:49
LjLsuppose the reason you were banned from the forums was also something you didn't do?02:50
atlfalcons866i didnt do02:50
atlfalcons866just cause my name was identical to skyfalcon and on the same ip02:51
Jack_SparrowYour brother  on the same account did it right?02:51
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: no, dog ate his homework02:51
LjLand incidentally, the offending user was also made of the same atoms as you02:51
LjLbut it wasn't you02:51
Jack_Sparrow:)   Gosh I wish I could sleep02:52
mneptok21:51 <@mneptok> regurg, excuse02:52
mneptok21:51 < regurg> mneptok: nesting roaches shorted out the ether cable02:52
mneptoki have more, if anyone needs them02:52
Tm_Tmneptok: msg all of them to me :)02:52
tonyyarussomneptok: I'd love that list too.... :P02:52
mneptokshould be in infobot's source02:53
tonyyarussoah02:53
atlfalcons866so im banned forever02:55
mneptokhttp://www.koders.com/perl/fid9847D112CB7DD64C7018C00617F5CA781DB409F4.aspx02:55
atlfalcons866for sumthing i didnt do02:55
LjLatlfalcons866, you're banned until your ban is lifted. and it *is* something you did do - if nothing else, the fact that you didn't care to secure your computer properly02:56
LjLcertainly not our faults if you let trolls use your computer02:56
atlfalcons866i dont02:57
atlfalcons866i have 3 computers on my network02:57
tonyyarussoThen you should secure your network.02:57
atlfalcons866wired?02:57
atlfalcons866thats what i do02:57
tonyyarussoDon't let idiots online.  If you can't control your network, you'll have to deal with the consequences.02:58
Tm_Tit's like "don't give guns to kids"02:58
atlfalcons866what the hell is CTCP Version02:58
LjLatlfalcons866, off the record, you and i know perfectly well that you're lying through your nose. so, i suggest you don't waste your time and leave this channel02:59
atlfalcons866Im not lying02:59
tonyyarussoWhat are the usernames of the other two people on your network?03:00
atlfalcons866y03:00
Tm_Tlying or not, I believe LjL has made his/our view clear03:00
atlfalcons866whats * Received a CTCP VERSION from Hobbsee mean03:01
Tm_Tatlfalcons866: Hobbsee did poke your IRC client to what version it is03:01
tonyyarussoStandard IRC communications stuff - you can look them up if you wish.03:01
atlfalcons866why did you want to know my other names03:04
tonyyarussoWe already know _your_ other names.  Just thought I'd give you a chance to claim it was someone else.03:05
atlfalcons866what are they then03:05
mneptoktonyyarusso: please stop. there's a rope shortage. ;)03:05
Hobbseeatlfalcons866: how old are you?03:05
atlfalcons8661703:05
atlfalcons866y03:06
Hobbseewow.03:06
Hobbseewould have put you as much younger than that.03:06
LjLhowever people, i'm going to bed now, and i'd find it unfair towards myself to let you have all the fun while i'm not around03:07
LjLso03:07
mneptokatlfalcons866: if you live at home, that sorta shortens the list as to what "other people" could have been abusive in #ubuntu and got you banned. i suggest you go talk to them.03:07
mneptokLjL: "u know y" please03:08
tonyyarussomneptok: u no y03:08
LjLmneptok: as tony said03:08
mneptokno, U no Y!03:08
LjLu n0 y03:08
mneptokJew knows guy.03:09
mneptokJew marries guy.03:09
mneptokHappily erver after, etc.03:09
no0ticlol03:09
nano__Hello, I received a "ban" in #ubuntu-offtopic for stating my displeasure concerning one of the rules, I'd like to respectfully appeal this decision. thank you for your time.03:12
LjLnano__, i hope neither you nor my fellow operators will be too saddened if i report the exact way you stated such displeasure03:14
LjL2007-12-17T23:00:34 <nano__> FUCK YOUR GODDAMN LANGUAGE RULES, YOU FUCKING STUPID CUNT03:14
LjLthat's just to say, nano__, that you should come here again and ask for your ban to be reviewed in, well, i'd say roughly a month03:14
mneptoknano__: et tu es Quebecois? quelle dommage.03:15
LjLhope that helped, have a good day03:15
* mneptok is ashamed03:15
LjLmneptok: well you should be even without him03:15
mneptokLjL: yes, but i don't need *more* reasons.03:15
LjLunderstandable03:15
nano__mneptok: je fais ma part dans cette guerre contre l'opression03:16
mneptokLjL: right now there's a very self-satisfied neo-Nazi out there because i'm hoarding the sense of self-loathing.03:16
LjLnano__, quelle guerre de fous03:16
HobbseeLjL: give kb3llm the spiel about the previous guy, please03:16
Tm_Tmneptok: ?03:16
mneptoknano__: et nous itou.03:16
LjLHobbsee: come again?03:16
HobbseeLjL: about why atlfalcons866 got banned03:17
HobbseeLjL: he's from #freenode03:17
kb3llmHobbsee: i'm not a staffer or anything03:17
kb3llmi just hang out in there a lot03:17
LjLHobbsee: that would be about falcon?03:17
kb3llmand I'm not voiced so you cant see this03:17
HobbseeLjL: yes03:17
nano__LjL well I was a little hot-tempered. thanks for considering it03:17
Hobbseekb3llm: yes we can, it's not +m03:18
kb3llmoh..03:18
kb3llmheh03:18
Hobbsee:)03:18
* kb3llm feels dumb03:18
mneptokkb3llm: you feel sorta warm and squishy to me ...03:18
Tm_Tmuhahah03:18
kb3llmumm?03:18
* kb3llm runs FAST03:19
Tm_TLjL:03:19
mneptok*muah*03:19
Hobbseehaha03:19
LjLkb3llm: skyfalcon866 was banned because of calling !ops (our emergency trigger) in several channels (#ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #kubuntu) after being repeatedly told to stop, as well as other minor misbehaviors. atlfalcons866 claims to not be the same person; however, the IP is the same, the name is strikingly similar, and if i look at my old logs, i see that months ago both had "jack" as ident03:19
* Hobbsee throws mneptok a live squirrel for him to chew on03:19
Tm_TLjL: 0503.46 atlfalcons866 [n=atlfalco@c-24-218-246-100.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] requested CTCP VERSION from Tm_T:03:19
Tm_TLjL: have any idea what reply does he had? ;)03:19
LjLTm_T: yes03:20
Tm_T;)03:20
no0ticTm_T, what reply? :)03:20
Tm_Tthat'll give him something to chew03:20
kb3llmjust curious what exactly does !ops do?  send a message to here? private message the ops?03:20
Hobbseemessage in teh channel, highlighting all the ops03:20
Hobbseekb3llm: see /msg ubotu ops03:20
kb3llmthis chan, or the one its sent in?03:20
LjLHobbsee: both03:21
LjLkb3llm: both03:21
Tm_Tno0tic: yeh03:21
kb3llmk03:21
kb3llminteresting03:21
Hobbseekb3llm: ie, not to be abused, as we have other crap to do, and only want to be called in emergencies03:21
Hobbsee[14:21] <atlfalcons866> well it dosent matter cuz im done with ubuntu so hobsee you run along and tell your little ubuntu ops that i dont use ubuntu anymore03:22
Hobbsee[14:22] <Hobbsee> even better.  bye then.03:22
Tm_T:(03:22
LjLHobbsee, he said the very same thing last time he came here03:22
Tm_THobbsee: that's not funny03:22
kb3llmheh - his loss03:22
LjLkb3llm: (and it *does* state that it should only be used in emergencies, so you can't not know, at least the second time you use it)03:22
Tm_Tkb3llm: trolls always wins ;(03:22
kb3llmI prefer debian, but I do like ubuntu.. I know it's based on Debian...   even though I use Debian more I would hate being banned from a ubuntu channel.. lol03:23
Tm_Tkb3llm: I would hate being banned anywhere, no matter like channel or not03:24
ubotuSnuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu (blahblahx)03:24
Tm_Tbecause it is usually indication that you have been misbehaving03:24
kb3llm.......03:24
ardchoilleTrue03:26
Tm_T0523.24 < blahblahx> wastrel: yo momma doesnt need another box with a power cable and a serial connecter. OHHHHH03:27
Tm_Tnixternal: Hobbsee: that one03:27
nixternalya, whoopy :)03:27
nixternaljust beein' a wiseguy03:27
kb3llmI'm banned in one channel right now --  i guess it was kind of my fault...  pretty much one person convinced the next to hate me, and soon the whole chan hated me, and then I got banned.03:27
Tm_Tyup03:27
nixternalhe hasn't said anything else03:27
Tm_Tnixternal: yup, and gone, nothing to worry about03:28
nixternalhas floodbot been working out pretty well? I haven't noticed03:29
kb3llmwhats floodbot do, ban people that flood?03:29
kb3llmthat it?03:30
Tm_Tmostly try to catch joinfloods03:30
Tm_Tas, spammers join in numbers, spam, then out03:30
mneptokoo!03:32
Tm_Tmneptok: what oo?03:32
mneptokmaybe *falcon* will leave Ubuntu for OpenBSD!03:33
mneptokthen he can go and play "Test Their Patience!" (tm) with Theo.03:33
mneptokwhich i will PAY to watch.03:33
Tm_Tmneptok: I was so thinking of that Theo =)03:33
kb3llmso why are some people in here +v even thought the chan is -m  ?    the +v's ubuntu ops?03:33
Tm_Tyes03:33
mneptokkb3llm: aye03:33
kb3llmah, k03:34
Tm_Top in some ubuntu channels AND members of ubuntu-ops team03:34
no0ticTm_T, I'd say OR :)03:34
Tm_Tno0tic: actually latter should be "atleast"03:35
Tm_Texception in old farts03:35
Tm_Tor do I remember all wrong?03:35
* mneptok releases a magnificent, splintering horrorfart03:36
mneptokdaintily, of course.03:36
Tm_Tok03:36
no0ticmneptok, well done03:37
Tm_Tkids...03:37
kb3llmadults...03:38
kb3llm:P03:38
mneptokTm_T: quiet, youngster.03:38
Tm_Tyoungster?03:38
Jack_Sparrowck out co_cakep    <co_cakep> #semarang03:38
mneptokcompared to me, probably.03:38
Jack_Sparrow54 here03:38
mneptokJack_Sparrow: i think that's a failed /join03:39
Tm_Tmneptok: hmm?03:39
Jack_SparrowStarted out programming for Commodore in '79  assy 650203:39
mneptokJack_Sparrow: yeah, i take comfort in your presence. makes me feel young(er). :)03:39
Jack_Sparrow:)  and with that.. goodnight03:39
mneptokWDC represent!03:40
Jack_SparrowTake care people..03:40
Tm_Tmneptok: I'm older than anyone in IRC world03:41
Tm_T:(03:41
mneptokTm_T: Jack is 54, i'm 42.03:41
Tm_Tkids...03:41
mneptokTm_T: if you're older than me, you just volunteered for diaper duty.03:42
ardchoilleI'm 4403:42
Tm_Tmneptok: where do I sign up?03:42
* mneptok shifts uncomfortably in his chair.03:42
kb3llmI'm 15 - younger than all of you.03:42
* kb3llm notices a silence03:42
Tm_Tkb3llm: there's no silence03:42
Tm_Twe are just old and slow03:43
kb3llmTm_T: lol03:43
mneptokkb3llm: we're grep-ing logs for anything the cops could use against us when you claim abuse.03:43
ardchoillelol03:43
no0ticlol03:43
kb3llmmneptok: heh - nah.. I wouldn't report you guys...03:43
Tm_Tmneptok: when you find someone with three number age, ping me ;/03:43
mneptoks/golden rod of Protean fury/wee-wee/03:43
mneptoksorry, wrong window03:44
* mneptok fixes the log03:44
kb3llmyou guys are doing a nice thing for the ubuntu community....  why woud I report you?03:44
mneptokkb3llm: http://people.ubuntu/com/~mneptok/mnepolo.png03:44
mneptokthat's why?03:44
kb3llmhah!!!03:45
mneptokrather, http://people.ubuntu.com/~mneptok/mnepolo.png03:45
Tm_Tmneptok: mmm, you're skinny03:45
ardchoilles|ubuntu/|ubuntu.|03:45
mneptokTm_T: that's ~12 years ago03:45
no0ticmneptok, 0.003:45
Tm_Tmneptok: still, I weight less then 50 kg and still I'm wider than you03:46
* kb3llm no comment03:46
Tm_Tmneptok: mostly we have different type of skeleton that is :)03:46
kb3llmso am I officially the youngest person in here?03:46
Tm_Tkb3llm: unofficially atm03:47
kb3llmTm_T: ?03:47
no0tic24 here03:47
kb3llmno0tic: still older than me by 9 years03:47
kb3llmlol03:47
Pici24 here too03:47
* Hobbsee is 19, she thinks.03:48
Tm_THobbsee: young and wild, car and all03:48
* mneptok saws off Hobbsee's leg and counts the rings03:48
* Tm_T hides03:49
Hobbseeheh03:49
Hobbseecan i have my leg back please?03:49
ardchoillehahaha03:50
mneptokHobbsee: the rings say you're 19. they also say you have termites and Dutch elm disease.03:51
Hobbseebrilliant!03:51
mneptokHobbsee: i *told* you not to have unprotected pollenation with unfamiliar saplings!03:51
no0ticmneptok, probably you should double the number of rings you counted, she has two legs03:52
* no0tic runs away03:52
mneptokno0tic: not any more.03:52
no0ticwell, she had03:52
ardchoilleYou lot rock!03:54
Hobbseemneptok: oh.  was that the mistake.03:55
Tm_Tmrh03:56
Tm_TI'm bored03:57
Tm_Tso I added few pics to my launchpad account03:57
somerville32link?03:57
no0tic~tmt03:58
ubot3Factoid tmt not found03:58
ardchoilleHow long must I be an ope in #kubuntu and an Ubuntu member to be approved for this team https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc ? Is there a time consideration?04:03
PiciIs that a misspelling of op or ape?04:04
ardchoilleIt's a misspelling of oper04:05
Picioh.04:05
Hobbseegood question04:14
PiciI would think its whenever the council feels like it.  But thats not really a good answer.04:15
Hobbseeafter they've seen a bunch of your op work, for a start.04:17
ardchoilleI'll wait a few months and try joining the ubuntu-irc team then04:17
=== rob1 is now known as rob
PiciI'm heading off to bed.  fyi, unagi is in -offtopic (history of kicks/bans in #ubuntu) I had to throw a !stop in there after this little comment regarding the !women factoid:05:31
Pici00:21:49 <unagi> ubuntu-women? is taht like a dating channel for women that like ubuntu?05:31
Pici00:21:51 <unagi> cuz thats hot05:31
* Pici hits the hay (or something)05:31
* nalioth hopes it's clean hay05:33
Myrtti/me cries05:45
Hobbseehm?05:45
Tm_Tyou too?05:45
* Tm_T haven't stop crying since a hour or so ago05:46
MyrttiWHEN shall my people be set free from idiots like unagi05:46
Myrtti;-)05:46
Tm_Toh, I have totally different issue05:46
Hobbseeah, drat, i missed it.  connection timed out, and i didn't rejoin ubuntu05:46
Tm_TMyrtti: my home is invaded, ruined05:47
Myrtti:-o05:48
no0ticHobbsee, did you change the "connection time out" message? If so how? :)05:49
Hobbseeno0tic: unsure what it was.  the network cable got pulled out05:49
Myrttiat least you have a home, Tm_T05:49
Tm_TMyrtti: http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/24h/id77814.html05:50
no0ticis flash issue solved?05:59
Tm_Twhat issue exactly?06:00
no0ticmd5sum afaik06:00
no0ticI heard something about that06:00
Tm_Tokie, haven't seen that one06:01
ardchoilleCouple of users in #kubuntu reported that too06:01
Myrttilast I heard it was in -proposed06:01
no0ticMyrtti, what's -proposed?06:01
Myrttiit was waiting to get to main or whatever06:02
no0ticthanks06:02
Myrttibut ikonia would know better06:02
Hobbseeno0tic: the testing repo06:02
ubotuMasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu ()06:11
ubotuno0tic called the ops in #ubuntu ()06:33
no0ticd|v pasting06:33
=== gouki_ is now known as gouki
Tm_Tpaul OM!08:07
* jussi01 pokes Tm_T... good morning08:08
Tm_Tgood day08:08
Tm_Tand you just stole a factoid from me ;)08:08
jussi01hehe...08:09
jussi01and you just made me laugh - which is something I havent done since my grandma died on the weekend. Thanks!08:10
ompaulI stole a factoid?08:10
jussi01no... me08:11
Tm_Tjussi01: :))08:11
Tm_Tjussi01: laugh is good :)08:11
Tm_Tjussi01: and if it doesn't feel like it right now, death is part of living08:11
ompauljussi01, ok, so do I declare you guilty or not then ;-)08:11
* jussi01 runs... Its Gary...08:11
jussi01Tm_T: yeps :)08:12
Garymeh :-D08:12
ompauljussi01, could be worse, could be gary barlow :)08:12
* ompaul grins08:12
* jussi01 has no idea who that is...but meh, whatever08:12
Garywhy was that cute guy in take that?08:12
ompaulhehehe08:12
Garys/why/who08:12
ompaulGary, it is a little early in the morning to remember anything08:13
Garyargh my typing skillz first thing in morning are naff08:13
ompaulI am lucky I remember where the computer is08:13
GaryI'm off to site to play builder this morning, yay08:13
Tm_Tjussi01: FYI I have been digging graves, family and other people I known08:13
* ompaul sshs into the office08:13
Tm_Thardest is to make less than meter long holes08:14
jussi01Tm_T: yeah08:14
GaryTm_T, pardon?  seriously? :'(08:14
Tm_TGary: no, I'm kidding with death of children, sure ;)08:15
GaryTm_T, what happened?08:15
Tm_Tbrothers family have bad curse related to babies it seems08:16
Gary:'(08:16
Tm_Tatleast all three (four?) does fit to same place, cheaper08:16
Garymy boyfriends nan is 102 next month08:17
Tm_TI'm 112 years old08:17
elkbuntuTm_T, you dont look a day over 11108:17
elkbuntuyou must be a hobbit08:17
Tm_Thobbit or hobb-see?08:17
GaryTm_T, blimey, life has treated you really bad, you look 12008:17
elkbuntuLOL08:17
elkbuntupwned08:17
Tm_TGary: thanks <308:17
Tm_Tseriously said, I'm not too old yet and already waiting my retirement days =)08:18
Garyso are we08:18
jussi01Tm_T: I thought I told you before - dont lie about your age, you are 137!!08:18
Garyno no no, he just looks 13708:18
jussi01ardchoille: go to bed... seriously... you are on here waayyy to much... :P08:24
ardchoilleNo such thing as way too much :)08:24
Garyhi ho hi ho, it's off to work we go, see ya's later, I'm off working (yes, really WORKING, OMG!!!11)08:28
ardchoilleI'm learning some pretty slick stuff: packaging and writing apps in pyqt08:33
ompaulGary,08:34
ompauldon't forget your shovel if you want to go to work!08:34
elkbuntuunagi is back and talking, crap08:51
Myrttiseems like so08:51
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (slinky-)08:52
ubotuMasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:22
ubotukane77 called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:22
ompaulelkbuntu, he klined now09:24
elkbuntuompaul, i still dont want anyone with a username 'shit' in the channel09:24
ompaulconcur09:25
ompauljust tellin ya he did debian and poof off the face of the earth09:25
elkbuntuheh09:25
ubotuIn ubotu, jussi01 said: !rt is <reply> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy10:21
* jussi01 pokes Tm_T10:25
Tm_Tyes?10:25
jussi01Tm_T: could you add that factoid for me?10:26
jussi01please :)10:26
Tm_Thmm, sure10:26
Tm_Tubotu: rt is <reply> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy10:26
ubotuI'll remember that, Tm_T10:26
Tm_Tjussi01: you're welcome :)10:27
jussi01Tm_T: thanks a lot!10:27
Tm_Tjussi01: sorry I was about to do it anyway, but caught up reading that wikipage =)10:27
jussi01hehe :D10:27
Tm_Tjussi01: how much you deal with sound systems?10:28
jussi01Tm_T: I am a memeber of the ubuntu studio dev team, however I am not an expert on sound. but try me - if I dont know I can probably find out.10:30
Tm_Tjussi01: I need app/daemon to play system notifications10:30
Tm_Talsa as directly as possible10:30
Tm_TI use aplay atm but it's sluggish at times10:30
jussi01Tm_T: hmmm, not so sure about that. what we are more about is music production. sorry. :(10:31
Tm_TI know10:32
Tm_Tjust had a thought :)10:32
Tm_Talsaplayer -l 0.9 -i text -q $*10:32
Tm_Tthat's actually is my current :p10:32
jussi01Is there something built into the bot which tells how many time a factoid has been called in a given period of time? if so, how would/could we access the info?12:16
Hobbseether eused to be12:16
PiciTheres something in there to prevent one command from being spammed.  And theres a count of how many times the factoid has been called on the factoid site...12:17
jussi01Pici: ahh, great, thats what i was looking for.12:18
jussi01:)12:18
Tm_Tjussi01: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=popularity%20DESC&page=012:23
Hobbsee@btlogin13:08
Tm_THobbsee: yay!13:09
Pici!back13:09
ubotuHurray, I've rejoined the channel.  Too many bugs :)13:09
Hobbseehehe13:09
PiciI saw that when looking for something else and knew it had to be Hobbsee that added it.13:09
* Hobbsee didn't add it13:10
Pici!-back13:10
ubotuback has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-10-19 18:48:3913:10
* Pici shrugs13:10
Hobbseeerm, okay, i did then.13:10
Tm_Thahaha13:10
* Hobbsee doesn't *remember* adding that.13:10
PiciSounds like something you would say.13:10
jussi01hehehe, thats a great factoid :D13:12
no0ticwow, freenode recruits new staffers13:30
Tm_Twhere?13:32
Tm_Tno0tic: yes?13:33
HobbseeTm_T: freenode blog13:34
Tm_Tah, thanks13:34
Tm_TI'm interested to see how they recruit13:34
Tm_Tnot to be recruited myself, mind you :-P13:34
Hobbseewell, i wouldn't mind.  if people were klinable.13:36
Seeker`Hobbsee: would we ever see Gary again?13:38
Hobbseehehe13:38
Hobbseegood question :)13:38
elkbuntuand this is why she'll never be a staffer :Þ13:41
Seeker`:P13:44
Hobbseewell, that was known13:45
Tm_THobbsee_: jumpy?14:02
=== Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee
Tm_THobbsee: interesting, you're not again in #ubuntu-women14:05
HobbseeTm_T: i don't tend to be14:05
Hobbseenot on my autojoin list14:06
Tm_TI see, good to know :)14:06
* Tm_T doesn't need autojoin :))14:06
Myrttiwith the amount of IRC frustration I've lately had, I have no autojoins either14:07
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 14:07
jussi01Myrtti: how did your house application go?14:08
Myrttibonked14:08
Myrttigoing to see different ones tomorrow14:08
PiciIs that good or bad?14:08
jussi01that sucks14:08
PiciOkay, bed.14:09
Picier, bad.14:09
=== jussi01 is now known as jussio1
PiciI switch to another screen tab and thats what happens... tsk.14:49
LjLPici: hey, look at -offtopic14:50
Pici...14:51
Tm_TLjL: please14:51
Tm_Treally, take that outside of ubuntu channels, I really honestly ask it14:51
Picinano__: Can we help you?16:00
* Pici neverminds, has read log. 16:01
Tm_T0512.41 < nano__> Hello, I received a "ban" in #ubuntu-offtopic for stating my displeasure concerning one of the rules, I'd like to respectfully appeal this decision. thank you for your time.16:04
Tm_T0514.21 <+LjL> nano__, i hope neither you nor my fellow operators will be too saddened if i report the exact way you stated such displeasure16:04
Tm_T0514.25 <+LjL> 2007-12-17T23:00:34 <nano__> FUCK YOUR GODDAMN LANGUAGE RULES, YOU FUCKING STUPID CUNT16:04
PiciTm_T: I saw16:04
Tm_T0514.56 <+LjL> that's just to say, nano__, that you should come here again and ask for your ban to be reviewed in, well, i'd say roughly a month16:04
Tm_TPici: see that16:04
PiciTm_T: see 11:01:00 * Pici neverminds, has read log.16:04
Tm_Tyup16:04
Tm_Ttoo late for me though :(16:05
Tm_Tsorry16:05
* Tm_T crawls back to his cave in the mountains, old hermit he/she is16:05
Myrttigroar16:09
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 16:09
LjLwell, i wonder if nano__ has any further questions he'd like to ask us16:14
Tm_TI too16:14
Tm_Tit sorta didn't end ever16:15
Myrtti/me taps her fingers16:16
Myrttinano__: we're waiting.16:16
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 16:16
Tm_Ttap your fingers at my back =)16:17
jussi01Tm_T: is your real name Rölli?16:27
Tm_Tnope16:28
Myrtti/me crochets while waiting for proftpd to compile16:32
Myrttihrmmm errors16:35
Tm_Tftp :(16:35
PriceChildhate it when boxes don't have the cd in... "but I want to play that!!!!!"16:43
Tm_T?16:43
Pici?16:43
LjL?16:44
Tm_TPriceChild: can you elaborate? I failed to understand that16:44
PiciI am at a loss as well.16:44
tonyyarussoPricey's lost it.  Move along.16:44
jussi01did he ever have it? :P16:47
Sp4rKyhi17:05
LjLhello Sp4rKy17:05
Sp4rKyi'm an op of #ubuntu-fr17:05
Sp4rKythere is a stuipid guy which uses many connections from same host to flood17:06
Sp4rKywe ban it from #u-fr, but is there a way to keep an eye over him on freenode ?17:06
Sp4rKy(it's not the first time he does that on #u-fr)17:07
naliothdoes he use the same nick?17:07
LjLSp4rKy, even the freenode folks couldn't do very much more than banning him every time he gets another host...17:07
LjLSp4rKy: if he keeps the same nickname or ident or realname, you can try banning that, and see if he's smart enough to change it17:07
Sp4rKynalioth: random nicks, and many host17:07
LjLSp4rKy: was kiki it?17:08
Sp4rKyyes ...17:08
Sp4rKywe ban him from free host, ip reappears with noos, we ban him 10 minutes ago17:08
LjLSp4rKy: have a deep breath and keep banning. there's hardly anything more than can be done about it :|17:08
Sp4rKyk :/17:09
* Sp4rKy hopes we won't have to ban half of free & noos domains :p17:09
LjLSp4rKy: also, why don't you join #ubuntu-irc and see if the guy's being a problem to other LoCo channels as well, in which case you could coordinate17:10
Sp4rKyit's an idea :)17:11
naliothSp4rKy: there are a lot of old bans in the ban list for #ubuntu-fr.17:12
Sp4rKyindeed17:12
skarfaceplease test my router so I can join #ubuntu17:23
Tm_Thi kids17:23
LjLskarface: you're good17:23
skarfaceI know17:23
skarface;)17:23
skarfacethanks17:24
Tm_Tsmooth :)17:24
Tm_Tjust like I love it17:25
PiciLike a baby's bottom?17:25
jussi01hehe17:25
Tm_TPici: yes17:25
jussi01hmmmm...17:33
LjLjesus i can't shut up when people say things like the difference between gnome and kde "is mostly cosmetic"... prepare to give me !ot18:47
Jack_SparrowWhat response would you like to see?18:49
LjLjust !ot | ljl if i don't stop after the last line18:50
ardchoilleLjL: lol18:50
Jack_Sparrow:)18:50
MyrttiLjL: if you promise to remove me if I appear to be having itchy fist for any "OMG she's hot" / "this is a dating channel" -comments?18:52
LjLMyrtti: can't promise that18:52
Myrttidamn18:53
somerville32All good things come to an end.18:55
MyrttiI'll have to part the channels myself then18:56
LjLMyrtti: or you could educate the people concerned18:57
LjLof course, /remove does count as education18:57
Myrttithe thing is, my education might too soon evolve to screeching, ranting, and trying to strangle people over ethernet18:59
Myrttiwhich isn't fun18:59
Myrttigives a bad impression18:59
LjLPici: i think j didn't understand that what i meant to tell him is that he *did* call, by saying "ops"...19:04
PiciLjL: I actually happened to be looking at the screen ;)19:04
LjLsigh ldl19:05
Pici...19:09
GazzaKwooo, I'm still connected at work19:10
=== GazzaK is now known as Gary
PiciLjL: same guy in +1 now...19:11
LjLhm19:11
LjLdunno perhaps give him a second chance in -ot19:11
Garywho is it?19:12
Picifrojnd.19:12
LjLgood call19:13
Picifrojnd: We have many younger people and people who use Ubuntu with their families in these channels19:14
PiciAs well as people ircing from work.  We really dont allow non-family friendly chatter and links to be posted, which is why you were removed.19:14
frojndPici, np... I agree with this19:14
PiciOkay, I'm willing to understand that you just weren't aware of these policies.19:15
frojndthe reason why I just blindly posted was becouse someone on #ubuntu chan gave me this when I asked for freenode ot19:15
Pici!etiquette19:15
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...19:15
LjLheh i did, but you said "regular talk"... now that's now how we define regular talk :P19:16
Picifrojnd: I think that you should just familiarize yourself with those factoids before rejoining -offtopic.19:16
frojndPici, There is no need for me to join -offtopic..19:17
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:17
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:17
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:17
frojndnow that I see why is the channel (-ubuntuoT) for..19:17
Picifrojnd: which one?19:18
frojnd#ubuntu-offtopic19:19
PiciIts for stuff not related to support issues, but still family friendly.19:19
frojndPici, it's disstracting for me that I'm tied up here19:19
frojndPici, do u know maybe for any bigger chans ?19:19
frojndfor OT ofcaourse19:19
Picifrojnd: #defocus is the only one on Freenode that I know of.19:20
LjL#defocus, but i don't know what their topic/language/etc policies are to be honest19:20
PiciAgreed, neither do I.19:20
LjLfrojnd: do you happen to have Windows?19:20
frojndLjL, yes when I was younger19:22
LjLfrojnd: i mean right now19:23
ardchoilleSajes (JaVaC@84.76.134.233) spamming pics in #kubuntu but left, just FYI19:23
LjLyou mean saras?19:23
LjLwell same person19:23
ardchoilleOops, yes, sorry19:23
frojndLjL, if I use windows ?19:23
frojndLjL, at the moment19:23
LjLfrojnd: if you currently have windows on some computer.19:23
frojndLjL, oh...19:23
frojndLjL, yes...19:24
frojnd219:24
LjLfrojnd: anyway i was asking because i knew of a free (beer) music identifier program for windows (although i'm trying to recall the name, but can't)19:24
frojndLjL, heh, no I don't know any kind of these programs :)19:24
LjLwell but i do, i just can't remember the name, i thought you'd find it useful for what you asked earlier19:25
ardchoilleLjL: So, even after they leave the chan it's good to ban?19:25
LjLardchoille: i usually banforward to -ops, however when it's blatantly malicious, just banning is fine19:26
frojndLjL, hm.. interesting19:26
ardchoilleI'll have to remember that19:26
LjLfrojnd: i have it, it's Tunatic, google it, first hit19:28
LjLit works with radio so it should work with a wmv i guess19:28
frojndThax LjL19:28
jussi01hmmm, how do I get more items out of the bot when there are too many too list?20:22
LjLjussi01: more20:22
LjLbut that doesn't work with packages20:22
LjLif that's what you're after20:22
jussi01LjL: thats what i thought, but it errors out on me...20:23
jussi01Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.20:23
LjLjussi01: is that in PM?20:23
jussi01LjL: yes20:24
LjLjussi01: what's the command, for starters?20:24
jussi01LjL: just for example  !find network20:24
LjLi said, it doesn't work with packages20:24
LjLthere's just no way to do that20:24
LjLuse packages.ubuntu.com20:24
jussi01oh20:24
jussi01sorry, missed that...20:25
jussi01amazing how the brain can just skip stuff like that.20:25
=== jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick
Jack_Sparrowjrib: this seems to work too..  The workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal.22:02
Jack_Sparrowjrib: Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb22:03
jribI see22:03
jribI guess that's probably better so they get updates22:03
LjLif that works, do advise it to people who insist22:03
jribJack_Sparrow: is that in a factoid or wiki page somewhere?22:04
LjLbetter they get a hardy package than install the tarball i'm sure22:04
Jack_SparrowNope, got it from in the channel yesterday22:04
Jack_Sparrowjrib: It has worked for everyone that I know of..  but dont like giving it out ulness they are fanatic about having flash22:05
jribJack_Sparrow: makes sense to add it on the wiki imo22:05
Jack_Sparrowjrib: What about letting one more person verify it then post it...22:07
jribJack_Sparrow: sure22:07
* LjL doesn't volunteer22:08
Myrttiwhen will it be in main gutsy?22:11
Myrttihow long ,ust we wait22:11
Jack_SparrowI dont even use flash...22:11
* Tm_T is happy with gnash22:11
Tm_Tworks with none here, I'm fine with it :p22:12
Jack_SparrowCan someone give me a webpage to test the flash install..22:18
Seeker`~/quit22:19
ubot3Factoid quit not found22:19
LjLJack_Sparrow: i guess http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/22:19
Jack_SparrowI suppose I need to install java as well...22:20
LjLJack_Sparrow: or just try anything on youtube... some people were complained about lack of sound, youtube would test that22:24
Jack_Sparrowk22:24
LjLalthough i don't quite understand why youtube tells me i need to upgrade my flash - sometimes. seems it does it when i go directly to a video's page... if i start from youtube.com and search, it seems fine22:25
Jack_SparrowI had already started java so it will slow me down for a sec..22:27
Tm_TPhusion: hi22:27
PhusionPriceChild: ?22:28
Phusionhey thee.22:28
Phusionthere.22:28
PriceChildHey Phusion?22:28
Phusionhey there.22:28
Tm_T:))22:28
ikoniaahhh this was the guy from yesterday with 100+ ban evasions22:28
PhusionI want to repent22:28
Phusion100!? oh c'mon22:28
Tm_Trepent?22:28
ikoniayes well over a 10022:28
Phusionyeah, I evaded bans 3 times yesterday because.... I'ma jerk and I was in the middle of helping someone in #ubuntu when I got the boot22:28
Phusionexcuse me?22:28
Phusionyou're thinking of someone else22:29
ikonian22:29
ikoniano22:29
Tm_Tnope22:29
Tm_Tit's you allright22:29
Phusionwell, Pricechild was there for the whole thing22:29
Tm_TPhusion: I sort of waited to see you :)22:29
LjLPhusion, i wonder, why didn't you even *ask* about the ban, before evading the second after it?22:29
PhusionI evaded ban 3 times, had a chat w/ pricechild and said, if you'd like me to leave, I will22:29
Phusionso I did22:29
PhusionI'm LAZY!22:29
Phusionso much faster to just jump back in and finish the convo with the TWELVE PEOPLE I WAS SUPPORTING22:30
PhusionI'm here to apologize22:30
Tm_T:))22:30
Tm_TPhusion: hug me?22:30
Phusionyou guys run a tight ship, I'm not used to such restrictions22:30
* Phusion hugs Tm_T 22:30
Tm_Thands off, you perv!22:30
* Tm_T hides22:30
* Phusion can't let go22:30
* Phusion is stuck22:30
PriceChildPhusion, lazy people do not have dozens of standby proxies ready. I'm pretty surprised and amazed to see you back, rather than under a different name and s non the wiser.22:30
PriceChild!offtopic > Tm_T22:31
Phusionhehe22:31
PriceChild*and us none22:31
Phusionwell, first of all22:31
Phusionthey're vhosts, not proxies.22:31
Phusionsecond of all22:31
Jack_SparrowWell for what it is worth.. that fix worked on this feisty install22:31
Phusionif I was a shady person, yeah, I'd just duck you again22:31
LjLPhusion: proxy is a pretty generic term22:31
Jack_Sparrowat least for youtube video  with sound22:31
Phusionpretty specific for me22:31
LjLi figure.22:31
PriceChildPhusion, The original offence... "rm -rf /" - what was that all about?22:32
Phusionoh, right, that, I err.. made it clear I was joking, but yeah, thats pretty bad22:33
Jack_SparrowSarcasm is wasted online22:33
Phusionyeah.... srsly22:33
PriceChildPhusion, I don't think it could ever be made clear enough.22:34
Phusionyeah22:34
LjLPhusion, if as you say you're coming from less light boats, then please read these carefully22:34
LjL!etiquette > Phusion    (Phusion, see the private message from Ubotu)22:34
Phusionwell, look, I'd be glad to stay outta yer chan, if I was a real douche I wouldn't be here explaining myself, I didn't duck under a different host and nick and I'm not a griefer, I do tech support for a living and I love OSS and Ubuntu22:35
PriceChild#ubuntu is crowded with absolute beginners, some who will copy/paste whatever you give them and not think twice. Not stopping to see later warnings.22:35
ikoniathe ban evading last night was may more than 322:35
Phusioncertainly not22:35
PhusionI owned up to what I did22:35
PhusionPriceChild: yeah, I realize this22:36
Phusionand telling someone to whipe their drive certainly isn't going to further their expeditions into alternate OS's22:36
ikoniait's almost like your reading from a script22:36
Phusionlogic, does once in a while fall upon my cranium22:36
Phusionuhm...22:37
Phusionok.22:37
PhusionI'm trying to show you that I understand what you're trying to tell me, but if thats reading from a script then sure.22:37
Phusionyou don't know that I'm a 25 year old, mildly educated IT professional, and may feel the need to explain to me that my jokes will get actually used by the newbs22:38
Phusionso, if you'll A) let me back in so I can help out the newbs or B) tell me to shove off I'd love to do either of them-- but I've been using linux since '97 and Debian since '00 or so and I'm quite an asset, not so much the asshat you may thinking I am22:40
LjLPhusion, i see your stance22:41
LjLplease tell me when you've finished reading the stuff in !etiquette22:41
Phusionok22:41
LjLwith !coc and !guidelines being most important22:41
PhusionI can ask ubotu?22:42
* Tm_T loves coc <322:42
LjLyes, /msg ubotu etiquette22:42
Phusionyes..22:42
PhusionTm_T: how about CoC?22:42
Tm_TPhusion: that's the one I'm talking about22:42
Phusionword.22:42
Phusiongood stuff22:42
Phusiontoo bad they died off like the rest of the great 90's music, eh?22:43
PriceChildAnyway back on topic.22:49
Phusionhrmm !etiquette doesn't seem to do it on obotu or Ubotwo22:49
Pici!etiquette22:50
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...22:50
Phusionohhhh you just want me to read those, got it22:50
PriceChildie /msg ubotu $foo, where $foo is any of those you haven't read yet.22:52
jussi01Tm_T: got a moment for a quick pm?22:59
Tm_Tsure22:59
LjLby the way frojnd, if you don't have anything else to ask us, may i ask you to leave this channel? we like to keep it for mostly ad-hoc, temporary use22:59
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PriceChildkb3llm, nano__, wols, can I help you?23:05
* PriceChild double checked the tab completion on "na" there23:17
Tm_TPhusion: what was the other choice?23:18
Phusionhrmm?23:25
PhusionI didn't have a C23:26
PhusionI'm trying to read through the etiquette23:26
Phusionand I just did, looks pretty standard23:26
LjLPhusion: so no problem with abiding by it?23:27
Phusionnope, seems straight forward23:27
ikoniatf23:28
Phusiontanx guys23:32
LjLbreathe on his neck, and if he talks to people with strange hostnames, make a note of that.23:34
ikoniaLjL: define strange ? (roughly)23:35
ikoniaas in clearly false23:35
LjLikonia: yeah, as in shell-account-like23:36
ikoniaok23:36
ikoniajust checking23:36
ikoniabut actually my pain killers are kicking in, I'm feeling a little woozy so I think I'll drop out23:37
ikoniagood night23:37
LjLnight23:37
kb3llmargh23:38
kb3llmlol23:38
Tm_Tyes?23:38
naliothkb3llm: something we can help you with?23:40
kb3llmnalioth: no... not really23:41
naliothkb3llm: did you not get the /msg from earlier?23:41
kb3llmnalioth: but everyone was fine with my being in here last night, why the sudden change?23:41
naliothsee the topic please23:41
PriceChild"everyone"?23:41
Tm_Tkb3llm: you were here for the reason I believe23:41
kb3llmi see that.23:41
PriceChildI have no idea who you are, and you didn't reply to the question :/23:42
kb3llmbut I'm not hurting anyone.23:42
kb3llmPriceChild: what question?23:42
PriceChild<PriceChild> kb3llm, nano__, wols, can I help you?23:42
kb3llmPriceChild: I'm beyond help :P23:42
kb3llmno I'm just "here" - lol....  but I'm not causing any harm...23:42
Tm_Tyou are here because...23:43
PriceChildPeople "just here" gets me uneasy... no-one stumbles across this channel.23:43
PriceChilds/gets/get23:43
Tm_Tagreed23:43
kb3llmPriceChild: well I whois'd someone from #freenode yesterday23:43
kb3llmthey were in here23:43
kb3llmso I wanted to check it out23:43
kb3llmand I liked it, so i stayed.23:44
kb3llmnice group of people here..23:44
kb3llmor so I thought before I was kicked :P23:44
Tm_Tyup23:44
kb3llmj/k23:44
Tm_Tthis isn't social channel anyway ;)23:44
kb3llmmeh - come on... lemmie stay - please?23:44
Tm_Twhy?23:44
kb3llmbecause it's not hurting anyone..23:45
Tm_Tit's already hurting PriceChild ;)23:45
naliothplease respect our wishes23:46
PriceChildkb3llm, checking logs... it appears you came here questioning someone else's ban?23:46
kb3llmPriceChild: no...23:46
kb3llmPriceChild: I was just "helping" with that in #freenode - but then, like I said, i whois'd someone, and found this chan.23:46
kb3llm...  do you really want me to leave that badly?!23:47
LjLnaughty23:47
Tm_Taye23:47
Tm_Talso young23:47
Tm_Tapparently bit lonely too23:47
Tm_Tvolunteeringly staying here23:48
Tm_Tthat's the measure of his desperation23:48
PriceChild"03:43mneptoks/golden rod of Protean fury/wee-wee/" - haha23:48
Tm_Tyu23:48

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