[01:34] <neil_d> how much memory does a client need ?
[01:36] <kgoetz> client== thin client?
[01:36] <kgoetz> 64mb memory iirc
[01:41] <neil_d> kgoetz: yes it does, thanks
[01:49]  * kgoetz uses 128, but thats because i had 128's handy
[01:49] <carbon_unit> Hi all!
[01:50] <carbon_unit> I have an edubuntu question.
[01:50] <HedgeMage> carbon_unit:  ask it and we might have an answer
[01:51] <carbon_unit> Can edubuntu be setup so that someone on the internet with a windows client can login to it?
[01:51] <carbon_unit> Like I can go home and login with a windows machine?
[01:54] <kgoetz> VNC of some sort?
[01:54] <neil_d> carbon_unit: I don't know, but one way is to make the home dual boot linux.
[01:55] <carbon_unit> Well I run Linux at home but the students may not have that option.
[01:56] <carbon_unit> But they can terminal serve in from the internet?
[01:56] <kgoetz> terminal service in your mind being...?
[01:57] <carbon_unit> from the internet they can get a login prompt and log into their account on the edubuntu server seeing their edubuntu desktop.
[01:57] <carbon_unit> or what can they do?
[01:57] <kgoetz> if you make the system available to the internet, and install something like vnc on it, they can
[01:57] <kgoetz> afk. putting our new work server in :)
[01:58] <kgoetz> back in a few hours
[01:59] <carbon_unit> So I don't really need LTSP to do this, VNC will work instead?
[02:00] <kgoetz> what your asking requires something other then ltsp
[02:00] <kgoetz> afaik
[02:00] <kgoetz> bug really gone now ;)
[02:00] <carbon_unit> Cool. Thanks!
[02:02] <carbon_unit> Laterz.
[02:07] <neil_d> is there a url that explains how to setup the server to run 64bit and the client 32bit ?
[04:39] <eljefe_> can anyone tell me how to fix compiz on edubuntu?  the apps always start blank
[04:41] <eljefe_> i think it needs something added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i don't know what
[06:54] <neil_d> seen the artigo at www.mini-itx.com make a good ltsp terminal
[07:04] <lns> neil_d, for $358 USD?? Damn expensive thin client! =)
[07:04] <lns> it does look very slick though
[07:35] <Goosemoose> what are the stats on it?
[07:50] <Burgundavia> RichEd: finally getting around to adding your stuff to the fridge
[07:59] <RichEd> thanks Burgundavia ... much obliged
[08:05] <Burgundavia> no worries, sorry about the crazy delay
[08:11] <neil_d> lns: didn't say cheap
[11:13] <killsalad> hello i've got bit problem with ubuntu7.10 ltsp and local device access - on thin client everything is ok and server has all required software,  but there's no directory with device content
[11:39] <ScorpFromHell> I need to install edubuntu on 100 machines of same config, can I use Ghost to copy the disk image to all the machines once I install it on one machine?
[11:45] <ScorpFromHell> Is there an OEM option for installing Edubuntu?
[11:47] <RichEd> ScorpFromHell: ghost should work fine
[11:48] <ScorpFromHell> Thanks RichEd
[11:48] <RichEd> ( try one before you do the whole batch :)
[11:51] <ScorpFromHell> RichEd, ofcourse :) NEver thought I would run into this problem this soon!!!
[12:01] <Jay-Oh-En> can anybody here help my friend ScorpFromHell install edubuntu on 100 pc's
[12:02] <ScorpFromHell> JAy-Oh-En, I tried asking here too :) RichEd let me know that Ghost can be tried out.
[12:02] <Jay-Oh-En> ok kool
[12:02] <`6og> or mondo, or preseeding
[12:02] <RichEd> ScorpFromHell: there is also an open source ghost equivalent ... if you want to go pure and side-step licence fees rather than avoid them
[12:03]  * `6og cant remember the name of the mass netinstall tools
[12:04] <ScorpFromHell> RichEd, we have Ghost licenses, thats why I wanted to know if we could use that. We plan to donate our old machines to some schools :)
[12:04] <RichEd> ScorpFromHell: okay :)
[12:05] <RichEd> == channel note = there will not be an edubuntu meeting today ==
[12:05] <RichEd> ( due to ogra not being available & RichEd on a half day and wrapping up for leave )
[12:05] <`6og> heh.
[12:06] <`6og> ScorpFromHell, you should check out mondo too, just so if the schools ask you, you can give them an option
[12:06] <ScorpFromHell> `6og, let me check out mondo
[12:07] <`6og> ScorpFromHell, the version in dapper has nagware in it, but the later versions are all "clean"
[12:08] <`6og> wb
[12:08] <ScorpFromHell> btw, may be I should give a background about my group first :)
[12:08] <`6og> please do :)
[12:08] <ScorpFromHell> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-non-tech/message/6991 has some deets
[12:09] <ScorpFromHell> in short, based in India, multiple locations
[12:09] <ScorpFromHell> aim to bring cheap ICT to schools
[12:09] <`6og> nice.
[12:10] <`6og> similar to what ITShare SA do ( http://www.itshare.org.au )
[12:11] <ScorpFromHell> Wow!! That's a cool idea ... but not applicable in India :D people do not have much computers in the first place to donate in viable numbers
[12:12] <ScorpFromHell> still, I guess I could start something on those lines to get donations from the IT companies
[12:12] <`6og> its taken us almost a decade to get to where we are, but its finally starting to get bigger
[12:20] <Jay-Oh-En> you guys are amazing
[12:20] <`6og> hehe.
[12:20] <Jay-Oh-En> i wish i could do that here in vegas
[12:36] <ScorpFromHell> `6og, sorry ... got dc
[12:37] <ScorpFromHell> had a short blackout :( its the darn rains maybe
[12:37] <`6og> ScorpFromHell, no worries
[12:47] <pips1> isn't there supposed to be a meeting now?
[12:48] <pips1> did i miss it?
 == channel note = there will not be an edubuntu meeting today ==
 ( due to ogra not being available & RichEd on a half day and wrapping up for leave )
[12:51] <ScorpFromHell> When do the meetings happen? And what happens in those meetings?
[12:51] <pips1> `6og: thanks
[12:52] <`6og> pips1, np
[12:53] <pips1> ScorpFromHell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Community/MeetingAgenda
[12:54] <pips1> in the first half we talk about ongoing development, in the second meeting half we talk about issues relevant to users of edubuntu
[12:55] <pips1> got to run..
[12:55] <pips1> bye
[13:01] <ScorpFromHell> `6og, gotta go too ... will keep peeping in time to time :)
[13:02] <`6og> ScorpFromHell, look forward to seeing you again :)
[14:46] <bddebian> HNeya
[14:51] <airjump> hi
[18:39] <skipper> Can someone help me with a problem?
[19:19] <ScorpFromHell> `6og, found a possible answer for my 100 m/c install issue ... http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install
[22:45] <Goosemoose> has there been any progress on the integration with AD that's happening in hardy?
[22:46] <johnny> AD integration already works in linux for the most part i think
[22:46] <johnny> i assume that they are just going to make it a bit easier..
[22:47] <stgraber> IIRC Ubuntu has a spec about using alternative authentication modules (ldap/ad/nis/...) and some tools are now there to make that easier to configure
[22:47] <johnny> hmm.. no idea..
[22:47] <stgraber> mainly by creating profiles, then being able to switch between profiles
[22:47] <`6og> iirc there was a bug in libpam re AD
[22:48] <stgraber> auth-client-config and authtool that's (from a quick apt-cache search)
[22:59] <Goosemoose> i have ad integration setup by manually editing a bunch of conf files
[22:59] <Goosemoose> but there's an integration going into hardy that was making it a one liner
[23:00] <Goosemoose> i forget who was working on it now
[23:00] <Dante123> Looking for some programmers  http://sourceforge.net/projects/spellinator
[23:00] <Dante123> looking for some programmers  http://sourceforge.net/projects/spellinator
[23:34] <johnny> Dante123, for how much?
[23:38] <Dante123> this is open source....gratis
[23:38] <Dante123> but you'll sleep easy at night knowing you've done your part for literacy!
[23:44] <johnny> i get paid for open source
[23:45] <johnny> i work on the system level already.. to make the overall platform better
[23:45] <johnny> as well as various web apps
[23:45] <Dante123> well, that's good.  This is basically a program that teachers/parents would use with elementary school children...
[23:46] <johnny> i'm suprised edubuntu doesn't already have something like that
[23:46] <Dante123> The original was made on an old mac using Hypercard.....I'd like to see the basic idea revived....
[23:46] <johnny> yeah.. i'm just wondering if something already exists
[23:47] <Dante123> I'm new to using sourceforge....so I put up there what I could.....no nothing quite like it exists.  There are programs/sites that will give you activities similar to some of these....but not all of them...and they are canned...in other words you have to work with the words they give you.
[23:48] <Dante123> The difference here is the control is put back into the teacher/parents hand....
[23:49] <johnny> maybe you can get folks who are already working on edu apps to do it
[23:49] <johnny> like kde edu
[23:49] <Dante123> So if you were doing a unit in a different subject- say social studies, you could pick words related to that....or if you want to focus on a prefix or suffix....there are word lists that come up and give you lists of words that fit the pattern....you select the ones you want.
[23:49] <Dante123> I will try there.  Thanks.
[23:50] <Dante123> any other irc chat channels you think I should look into?
[23:50] <johnny> i don't know where the gnome edu folks hang out
[23:50] <johnny> or you could try building the app in the application called glom
[23:50] <johnny> it's sorta like MS access