[01:54] <tonyyarusso> I seem not to have sound on YouTube today - anyone else experienced that?
[02:03] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: sound ok here
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Hmm, alrighty.
[02:04]  * tonyyarusso ponders what he's done to it
[02:28] <DanaG> Odd: I can't use the "Make discoverable network sound devices available locally" feature in PulseAudio.
[02:28] <DanaG> One computer's devices show up in the other one for only about half a second before disappearing.
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Epiphany-browser broken for anyone?
[04:25] <poningru> hey guys which kernel is hardy supposed to be using?
[04:27] <Pici> poningru: eventually 2.6.24 (or 23), but last I looked l-r-m wasn't building on i386 for that version so I'm not using it.
[04:27] <poningru> oh ok
[04:27] <poningru> cause uname for me shows up as 22
[04:28] <poningru> and I was like hmm there is 24 available so wtf
[04:28] <poningru> but didnt wanna mess with anything so...
[04:35] <grazz> is the patchset for that kernel available?
[04:36] <poningru> grazz: if you do a search for 2.6.24... I see a bunch of stuff
[04:36] <poningru> no clue about the patchset
[04:36] <poningru> or what it means
[04:36] <grazz> the ubuntu kernel patches
[04:37] <poningru> oh gotcha
[04:37] <poningru> diff from upstream right?
[04:37] <grazz> yeah
[04:38] <poningru> yeah no clue
[04:39] <poningru> mr. watson might know
[04:39] <poningru> you know can we call him tjwatson from now on?
[04:39] <poningru> it just sounds cooler
[04:39] <grazz> haha
[04:39] <poningru> and I can start singing the ibm song
[04:39] <poningru> s/song/sons
[04:39] <poningru> err songs*
[04:39] <grazz> :P
[04:40] <grazz> i need coffee
[05:14] <bderrly_> hooray for hardy
[05:16] <bazhang> tis nice so far
[05:18] <scizzo-> working well I guess?
[05:18] <bderrly_> just finished the upgrade and reboot
[05:18] <bderrly_> so far so good
[05:18] <bderrly_> it's always a good start when gdm comes up without having to fight the nvidia battle
[05:18] <DanaG> Hmm, I think I figured out my issue with pulseaudio networked sinks disappearing.
[05:19] <DanaG> Somehow, it's deciding that 1/2 second is "idle too long", and it drops that networked sink.
[05:20] <scizzo-> well I am to scared to install hardy at the moment
[05:20] <bderrly_> scizzo-, i had been when upgrading between most of the other version but this time i said screw it ;)
[05:22] <scizzo-> bderrly_: didn't do any changes with configs or so?
[05:24] <bderrly_> scizzo-, the only config it asked me about was /etc/screenrc
[06:05] <grazz> cya ppl
[06:05] <bazhang> bye
[06:23] <bderrly_> anyone using grub2? i want to try it but don't want to break my box :)
[07:49] <hartman> Hey, noticed an update kernel has been uploaded. Anyone had any trouble with it?
[10:19] <mikkael> what does "failed to upload" mean ? i checked the ubuntu-builds at launchpad for l-r-m-2.6.24 ..
[10:53] <BUGabundo> hya guys and gals
[10:53] <BUGabundo> strange stuff just happened to me
[10:54] <pvandewyngaerde> what ?
[10:54] <BUGabundo> I rebooted, and moments before GDM start, I jumped to the TTYs to edit grup
[10:54] <BUGabundo> *grub
[10:54] <BUGabundo> when I jumped to X ctrl-alt-f7
[10:55] <BUGabundo> my login was already entered
[10:55] <BUGabundo> wifi detected, and pidgin connected
[10:55] <BUGabundo> I didn't even input my username on GDM
[10:55] <BUGabundo> just root, on the TTYs
[10:55] <BUGabundo> I'm checking right now, if some update has changed the auto-login option on GDM config
[10:56] <BUGabundo> nope, autologin is off
[10:56] <BUGabundo> what do you think pvandewyngaerde ?
[10:57] <pvandewyngaerde> could it be a resume of a session ?
[10:57] <BUGabundo> plain reboot
[10:57] <BUGabundo> no other stuff was open, other then those that autostart, like pidgin
[10:57] <pvandewyngaerde> can you   reproduce this behaviour ?
[10:57] <BUGabundo> still it doesn't explain the auto login
[10:58] <BUGabundo> I'll have to reboot again and try to match the time to jump to TTY
[10:58] <BUGabundo> it is not an easy thing to try to reproduce
[10:59] <BUGabundo> unless it is really a bug. a really strange and security wise one
[11:00] <BUGabundo> is anyone here going to reboot within the next few minutes?
[12:46] <Pici> hmm
[12:56] <dissonans> is hda intel known to work well in hardy?
[12:56] <dissonans> or intel hda rather
[12:57] <pvandewyngaerde> i cannot play audio anymore
[12:57] <Pici> Its running mine fine... although I never had issues in Gutsy with it.
[12:57] <Pici> Nor have I upgraded to 2.6.24
[12:58] <dissonans> it's broken in gutsy for me :/
[12:58] <dissonans> I even tried installing the very latest alsa driver from source
[12:58] <dissonans> this is an asus laptop btw
[13:00] <Pici> !intelhda
[13:00] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:00] <dissonans> it's starting to piss me off, since it worked before reinstalling (previous install: upgraded feisty->gutsy)
[13:02] <dissonans> ok, looking at that howto
[13:10] <dissonans> rebooting
[13:12] <Pici> hmm.. I have a feeling that alot of people are going to show up about l-r-m not being installed.
[13:13] <Hobbsee> Pici: why/
[13:14] <DarkMageZ> if anyone bitches then they aren't supposed to be running hardy
[13:14] <Pici> Hobbsee: Aptitude wanted to upgrade my kernel packages to 2.6.24, but leave l-r-m at its current version.
[13:15] <Hobbsee> ah yes, i'ts not all fully uploaded / installable yet
[13:15] <Pici> Right.  I should have specified that I meant the people who don't look at whats being upgraded before they take the plunge.
[13:16] <DarkMageZ> Pici, they shouldn't be running hardy :P
[13:16] <Pici> DarkMageZ: If I had a penny for every time I've said that...
[13:17] <DarkMageZ> if it wasn't against the code of conduct (which i have NOT signed) i'd wait for them and beat them with a stick!
[13:17] <Hobbsee> Pici: then they deserve to lose X, or worse.
[13:17] <Hobbsee> and get no help
[13:17]  * Hobbsee shrugs
[13:17] <Pici> Hobbsee: I think I saw yesterday you talking about the intel 3945 adapter not working with .24, but other people said that theirs was, did you ever figure that out or am I remembering things weirdly?
[13:18] <Hobbsee> Pici: never figured it out.  the bluetooth works fine, the rf_kill switches show as disabled...
[13:18] <Hobbsee> i'm wondering if i need l-r-m for some insane reason too
[13:18] <Hobbsee> should poke rtg over it
[13:19] <Pici> Okay :)
[13:34] <dissonans> hm don't think the howto helped me much :(
[13:36] <dissonans> rebooting again ...
[13:39] <dissonans> ah finally sound .........
[13:40] <dissonans> set the model=laptop, then it worked :|
[13:41]  * dissonans makes mental note to consider Mac for next work laptop
[13:42] <bazhang> the 3945 works ok under hardy for me
[13:47] <Pici> bazhang: Which kernel?
[13:48] <bazhang> Pici: whatever is standard for the hardy smp would that be generic?
[13:49] <Pici> bazhang: Sorry, I mean 2.6.22 or 2.6.24
[13:50] <bazhang> Pici: not running it right now--is the .24 the latest? whatever is standard--I have done nothing special
[13:50] <Pici> bazhang: It looks like the kernel metapackages just updated to 24, but had been at 22 previously.
[13:51] <bazhang> Pici: I see--well I just updated earlier today, so then that would be 24 on mine sorry not be more helpful
[14:06] <pvandewyngaerde> i cannot login to X anymore
[14:08] <DarkMageZ> pvandewyngaerde, are you using proprietory graphics drivers :P
[14:08] <Pici> DarkMageZ: And so it begins ;)
[14:08] <pvandewyngaerde> nv
[14:08] <DarkMageZ> Pici, i know. i'm waiting for him to confess his sins so i can start the burnination!
[14:09] <Pici> pvandewyngaerde: and you recently did a kernel upgrade?
[14:09] <pvandewyngaerde> yes
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> pvandewyngaerde, you failed at reviewing the updates you installed before. l-r-m doesn't install :P
[14:11] <pvandewyngaerde> and is there a solution ?
[14:11] <DarkMageZ> pvandewyngaerde, the answer to that is "should you be using hardy?"
[14:12] <pvandewyngaerde> No i shouldn't, but i DO
[14:12] <Pici> So..
[14:13] <DarkMageZ> the solution is to either hack up your own kernel or revert to the old one or wait for the repositories to have the complete kernel uploaded then update.
[14:13] <Pici> I suggest reverting to the old one. I still havent upgraded to .24
[14:14] <DarkMageZ> i saw that .24 was brokenzed so i didn't update it.
[14:15] <Pici> ditto.
[14:15] <pvandewyngaerde> hmm, i dont understand that it is a kernel problem,  i cannot get past the login screen, my password is correct,it just brings me back everytime
[14:17] <Pici> pvandewyngaerde: Any hints in your xorg? or xsession errors?
[14:19] <pvandewyngaerde> permission denied
[14:19] <DarkMageZ> Pici, bugga. i was really hoping on burning someone for not using hardy properly.
[14:20] <Pici> pvandewyngaerde: Is there a specific reason you are running Hardy?
[14:20] <pvandewyngaerde> no
[14:22] <Pici> pvandewyngaerde: how about your xorg log?
[14:26] <pvandewyngaerde> opening acpi succesfull,  and something about configured mouse
[14:42] <pvandewyngaerde> i guess i have some wrong permissions on my /tmp folder
[14:50] <qaws> hi, is possible to update linux-restricted-modules-generic to new hardy version? I would like to do it, but I dont know, whether it needs to compile a new kernel, or it will be solved without me in few days.
[14:54] <DarkMageZ> qaws, it should get sorted on the ubuntu repository side in a day hopefully. then just update.
[14:56] <qaws> DarkMageZ thanks
[17:37] <krzulu> Hi ! Anyone know why my wlan (ipw3945) changed name to wlan0_rename with the latest kernel upgrade ?
[17:49] <bazhang> krzulu: would that be wlan0 and wmaster0?
[18:10] <krzulu> bazhang: It used to be called eth0/wlan0
[18:11] <bazhang> krzulu: and now you have the two, or only wlan0
[18:25] <Richie> Hi, how can i find out which processes are currently using the audio device?
[18:27] <Richie> at the moment whenever i try to play something, i get the error message saying it cannot open the audio device because it is in use
[18:27] <Pici> lsof *should* list it
[18:29] <Richie> so lsof | grep "/dev/snd"
[18:29] <Richie> ?
[18:29] <Richie> if so then it doesn't find anything :(
[18:36] <Richie> hummm...nvm...i fixed it with alsa force-reload
[19:25] <pvandewyngaerde> Pici:  i found it, it was a ICEauthority file
[19:32] <fransman> how do i patch a interdiff file on a svn tree?
[20:20] <slanning> lo, when booting and after starting "Timidity", it says gdm fails to start:  /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer: line 47: [: too many arguments: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10 shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server
[20:26] <slanning> I think possibly because linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-2 is not in the repository
[20:30] <slanning> I think it's correct because rebooting with a previous kernel it worked, thanks anyway byebye now
[20:35] <kalchas> hello! I would like to check if a bug report has already been filed: the search function on hardy (I'm using amd64) add/remove crashes the application (I am registering to launchpad now)
[21:11] <bardyr> hey
[21:11] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[21:11] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24.2.2 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[21:12] <bardyr> w00t, meta package finally upgraded :D
[21:12] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new
[21:12] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.5-14.1 (hardy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[21:12] <bardyr> :/
[21:13] <bardyr> will the restricted modules be recompiled to the new kernel before alpha2 ?
[21:13] <Richie> yes
[21:14] <bardyr> wee :)
[21:14] <bardyr> with the latest beta driver?
[21:14] <bardyr> for nvidia
[21:14] <Richie> not sure
[22:00] <hydrogen> I'd doubt that it would include a beta driver
[22:00] <hydrogen> not sure though
[22:01] <bardyr> its a beta release ;)
[22:17] <cafuego> why include a beta driver?
[22:17] <Richie> they're including beta kernel
[22:17] <cafuego> I mean, apart from being a beta, does it add any new funcionality?
[22:26] <bardyr> cafuego, yes and much support/bugfixes
[22:26] <hydrogen> it fixes some bugs with argb