[00:14] Sorry to ask, but where and to whom do I talk about backports from hardy to gutsy? [00:30] !backports | Fjodor [00:30] Fjodor: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [00:35] Fujitsu: Thanks. More specifically, though, I would just like to ask the person in charge of that specific package why the compcomm-settings-manager thingy isn't backported when alle the other compiz(fusion) things are... [00:36] Basically, that's why I ask here, as I would deem this a dev (or packager) question, and not just a simple usage one that would be better asked in #ubuntu [00:37] It may just be that nobody thought to backport it. [00:39] Fjodor: anyone here would just have to look up who the backporter in question is, presumably you can find that information even easier than we can since you have the other backports in front of you [00:40] slangasek: Now we are moving! Where do I look up backporters? [00:40] Fujitsu: Indeed, so I just need to get in contact with the guys who are handling these packages (see below) [00:41] Fjodor: in /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz [00:41] slangasek: Excelent. Thank you! [00:46] i'm trying to update my own apt archive [00:47] how do i make a Release.gpg file? i thought it was just by signing the Release file [00:47] but that gives 'unknown gpgv error' from apt [00:48] poolie: Do you have the key on apt's keyring, and is the error from a chroot (where gnupg might not be installed)? [00:48] yes, and no respectively [00:48] Nothing more useful than `unknown gpgv error'? [00:49] no, it sucks [00:49] well [00:49] W: GPG error: http://bazaar-vcs.org ./ Release: Unknown error executing gpgv [00:50] -o debug::acquire::gpgv=1 [00:50] poolie: ^-- try with that [00:50] thanks [00:51] ok, that shows a command [00:51] * Fujitsu worships all-knowing elmo. [00:51] which when i run it gives, "no valid openpgp data found" [00:51] it is a valid ascii-armoured file though... [00:51] What's the URL to it? [00:52] ah, that's because it gave the exec args with argv0 repeated [00:52] http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/debs/gutsy [00:52] slangasek: Just a final thank you and update. I just mailed the last person to update the package. Thanks for the pointer [00:52] ok, "not a detached signature" [00:52] poolie: that dosn't look like ... [00:53] right.. not one of those :) [00:53] Fjodor: no problem [00:53] elmo, --detach-sign wants to produce Release.sig - i just rename it to .gpg? [00:54] poolie: yeah [00:54] yay [00:54] thanks [00:55] I think you want a -a in there. [00:55] is it meant to be ascii or not? [00:55] the previous one was not... [00:55] poolie: I suspect either works [00:55] poolie: ascii is more friendly and is what ubuntu/debian uses [00:55] The one I saw first was ASCII, but the latest one is not. [00:55] Ah, that's better. [00:56] i am getting more convinced about using a PPA :) [00:56] PPAs don't sign yet. [00:56] i know [00:56] i mean, just avoiding this in general [00:56] or, avoiding building equivalent automation [02:00] * lamont wonders how well a breezy->gutsy upgrade will work [02:00] it'll be very brutsy [02:00] lol [02:00] * persia suggests hitting Dapper along the way for the new meta-packages bonus [02:00] well, it's a rather slow rsync to get the iso where I can burn it, so I have an hour to kill. what the hell. [02:00] persia: was planning on dapper [02:00] and then maybe I'll leave it at dapper. :) [02:01] And a chance to reinstall if it all goes horribly horribly wrong? [02:01] install testing is all about love [02:01] * lamont just upgraded his laptop to 4GB, and now it runs slower. [02:01] most annoying [02:02] hello lamont [02:02] howdy [02:02] lamont: how much do you like to suffer :) [02:03] zul: netboot hates me right now, and the machine has breezy on it through a strange array of coincidence [02:03] OTOH, 1u ia64 boxen are kinda noisy [02:03] * Fujitsu would advise going to at least Edgy, as there were a lot of migrations. [02:03] esp when you're sitting 2 feet in front of it [02:04] keeps the winter chill away though :) [02:04] heh [02:04] Fujitsu: Aren't most the migration hints still there for Gutsy? [02:04] dapper is fine for doing chrootish things... and besides, it's not for me. it's for christmas [02:04] the evms-must-die one isn't [02:04] I remember the Itanium at LCA '02 (I think it was) -- my bag was 3 feet away from it, and it was hot [02:04] persia: They're meant to be, but I've tried Dapper->Gutsy, and it... didn't work well. [02:05] I suspect that Edgy->Gutsy would work much better. [02:05] when I get home, I get to recover a box that I just dist-upgraded from feisty to gutsy, which doesn't boot anymore because it has root on /dev/md0 [02:05] * ScottK tried Dapper -> Gutsy as well. [02:06] * ScottK got there, eventually, but with no TTYs. [02:06] ScottK: yeah.. that's a known bug. [02:07] Yeah. I know, but it doesn't make it more pleasant. [02:07] 'struth [02:07] * ScottK looks around for someone who will actually fix it. [02:07] I thought it had been [02:07] dunno. [02:07] pester keybuk and/or mvo [02:08] * ScottK doesn't have any boxen needing Dapper -> Hardy for real, so can't be bothered. [02:08] amazing how our beloved child becomes a step child to hide under the table [02:08] * Hobbsee should upgrade her edgy machine. [02:08] Well I've got Christmas card lables to print. [02:09] yeah! netboot loves me, it's the console that didnt [02:09] My server here will be jumping from Dapper to Hardy [02:09] * lamont learned that nssldap doesn't care if the server cert is expired. [02:09] whereas ldapsearch does [02:09] Two servers, even [02:10] kewl. lan A was actually eth0. :-) === bigon is now known as bigon` [02:11] lamont: Is that surprising? [02:11] I've found that it depends... [02:11] sigh. [02:11] yes [02:11] I did find the right place to unplug the cable so that it would ask for a proxy. go me. [02:11] Hah. [02:12] stupid so-called "transparent" prxoies [02:12] and the box gets to have gutsy on it. [02:12] * Hobbsee notes that one eventually gets used to the compiz-slow-refresh [02:12] * Hobbsee wonders why compiz has only crashed once today [02:13] Hobbsee: it hasn't crashed for me all week. :-) [02:13] lamont: is it purged? [02:13] yeop [02:14] odd, that [02:14] or (in the other case), no 3d acceleartion [02:14] * Fujitsu finds that purging fixes a lot of things, including trackerd eating the CPU. [02:14] Fujitsu: don't forget network-mangler [02:14] * Fujitsu likes network-mangler. [02:14] Is it related to queue-mangler? [02:15] if trackerd would eat network-mangler, that'd be just fine [02:15] no [02:15] Fujitsu: purging network-manager should not down the interfaces on my box. [02:15] that's rude [02:15] I thought the alternatives to network-mangler were being removed, making it harder to purge... [02:15] lamont: Restarting it shouldn't either, but that's what it does. [02:15] persia: "ifupdown"? [02:15] slangasek: Yes (or at least my configuration is becoming unhappy over time) [02:15] * Fujitsu finds that quite adequate unless versatile wireless is wanted. [02:15] * lamont uses ifup and dhclient [02:20] persia: hmm, works for me so far [02:20] * persia hopes it continues to do so [02:21] * lamont has been using ifupdown forever [02:21] well, a few years anywway [02:21] * Fujitsu thinks we might have some slight complaints if it stops. [02:22] heh [02:22] and how. [02:23] Fujitsu: It depends. If there was a perfect alternate solution that didn't break things when it was enabled, it would likely be acceptable to many. [02:25] persia: that rules out network-manager [02:25] at least until it gets more use-models in it than "there is one network" [02:25] I believe there is some sanity on the 0.7 roadmap. [02:26] s/one network/one network with guaranteed uptime of the primary router and any DHCP server/ [02:26] persia: yes, one that doesn't require me to log in before it brings the network up [02:26] Multiple active interfaces and system-wide config are on said roadmap, I believe. [02:27] slangasek: That's not so bad for the notebook use-case, but it's frustrating to have the network stop working because of dropped packets to the router. [02:27] persia: it's bad for the notebook with kerberos use case [02:28] slangasek: Right. s/notebook use-case/exceedingly simplified single-user single-person self-managed environment in perfect surroundings/ [02:29] right. :) [02:30] persia++ [02:30] slangasek: Could I convince you to release texlive-bin from binary NEW? [02:31] Oh, btw., does this channel still concern itself with matters of gutsy (specifically the logout dialogue in GNOME)? [02:34] * Fujitsu doesn't see how that is specific to Gutsy. [02:35] Fjodor: Yes, but not in the sense that things should be complained about. There's a spec for a new solution planned for hardy... [02:35] StevenK: what does it break this time? [02:36] slangasek: gnome? :-) [02:37] $world [02:37] slangasek: It shouldn't break anything [02:37] Fjodor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/ExitStrategy [02:37] slangasek: btw, congrats on becoming a real person today [02:37] slangasek: It's a direct sync, so it's Debians fault [02:37] StevenK: it's tex, of course it breaks something [02:37] Bwahaha [02:37] * lamont hates 9600 baud serial consoles [02:38] persia: Hmmm, so if pressing the logout button results in an inaccessible system for several minutes before the logout dialogue appearing (sometimes without options for sleep and hibernation), that is hardy(+) material? I will be reading the link in 2 minutes... [02:39] * lamont wonders if a 2GB EFI partition is a bit excessive, for a kernel develoer [02:39] Fjodor: Not necessarily, but for a blocking problem or regression, filing a bug is a better solution. [02:40] persia: Ok, will do then. I just hoped to get someone involved on the line, as my gf is bugging me about it all the time ;-) [02:40] persia: Thanks [02:40] Fjodor: those sorts of support issues plague all of us. [02:40] and after you upgrade from gf to wife, it just gets more so... [02:41] Fjodor: It's more that the solution is likely complex, and so a quick fix is definitely wrong. You might be able to get hints on a workaround in #ubuntu [02:41] lamont: One should use GF LTS to avoid upgrade issues? [02:42] Fujitsu: once you install wife, downgrading is inadvisable [02:42] lamont: Indeed, but however much empathy you get, the hard fist of wife-alpha1 still perseveres ;-) [02:42] persia: Ok, thanks, but I have tried there for some time now... [02:42] Fjodor: In that case, there probably isn't a workaround :( [02:43] sometimes, signal-to-noise suffers on #ubuntu. not always though. [02:43] and yeah, that points to a lack of a workaround, or that the people who have the workaround are in the wrong timezone relative to you [02:44] dear partitioner. when I create a md device with n partitions, and there are n drives with one partition each available, please preseed the answer for me. [02:44] kthxbye [02:45] persia: Well, I have done some preliminary diagnostics. That's why I went here afterall. I have had complaints about it on my gf's laptop, I see it on my own laptop, I see it on my desktop, and I see it on my office desktop. That's my reason for deeming it reproducible... [02:45] * slangasek looks at lamont blankly [02:45] * Fujitsu hasn't seen that issue since early in Gutsy's dev cycle. [02:45] lamont: But yes, you are right [02:45] Fjodor: Right. That would be a bug then, so the people who work on that package will be notified, and can discuss alternatives for a solution. [02:45] n partitions, or n components? [02:46] * Fujitsu hopes the latter. [02:46] * lamont sees slangasek's blank look, and raises him an eyebrow. [02:46] create an md device gives me a list of partitions to put in the array. there are certain cases where the answer is obvious and forced. [02:47] right, so "an md device with n components" [02:47] since one rarely partitions an md device [02:47] * lamont currently sees long delays at login because of restricted-manager thinking about life. [02:48] slangasek: partitions on other devices... the list is of partitions to use to make the MD device [02:48] Just for speeding things up, where do I report the bug? If noone has the direct URL, I'll find it myself, but you devs seem to be able to find such things at a wink of the eye [02:48] given that partition 1 on the drive needs to be (in this case) efi, the raid device lives on partition 2 [02:49] hrm... I guess this machine does get a desktop install [02:49] * lamont forgot the magic incantation to tell the alternate CD to install just server-bits. [02:49] and doesn't want to go back in any case [02:49] lamont: The incantation is a down arrow at gfxboot, I think. [02:49] Fujitsu: no. [02:50] that's the right answer after the iso generation code is fixed [02:51] * lamont grumbles at the installer for not allowing a blank password. [02:52] Fjodor: if we assume it's in the gnome-session source package (which is a leap), then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/ [02:53] and if it's not gnome-session, one of the gnome-heads will eventually move it to the right package, I expect... [02:53] but that's just a shoot-from-the-hip answer. [02:53] 1 → 50 of 506 results [02:53] yeah! [02:54] * lamont wonders if the queue will break 500 before he heads out in a bit [02:54] lamont: Ok, thanks. I'll load that url, and if it doesn't fit, I'll roll from there. Launchpad can just be somewhat confusing from time to time... [02:54] s/somewhat/very/ [02:55] s/from time to time// [02:55] you are in a twisty maze of pages, all different [02:56] You would be likely to be eaten by a grue, except that the green bar at the top is too bright. [02:56] Fujitsu: clearly you haven't played the original much. - [02:56] :-) [02:57] advent has no grues [02:57] That would be a correct assumption. [02:57] lamont: Thanks again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/123078 seems to very acurately describe what I am seeing [02:57] Launchpad bug 123078 in gnome-session "System -> Quit takes a long time to appear" [Low,Confirmed] [02:57] * lamont beams with glee [02:58] I got one right!! [02:58] (the title doesn't cover it all, but the problems are all described there)... [03:02] dear installer. please consider saying something cuter than "Please wait...". maybe something like "please don't kill me, sir...". kthxbye [03:02] hrm... gender biased. [03:02] never mid [03:02] mind [03:03] lamont: i shoved kde4 down again on hppa [03:03] Hobbsee: heh. tahnks [03:03] although, apparently there's a neat LP bug that will rescore it to where LP thinks it belongs [03:03] for the win [03:04] hehe [03:04] I don't mind building kde. I mind building out-of-date kde [03:04] so if they'd just get it right before they uploaded, then I wouldn't have to think of ways to hurt them. [03:05] "Installation complete" [03:05] lamont: not really. i'd just like working wifi, thanks! [03:05] LongPointyStick: heh [03:05] Hobbsee: so why you running two clients? [03:05] lamont: one to log. [03:05] this is a laptop. i turn it off [03:06] --- [LongPointyStick] (n=mystery@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) : " " [03:06] such a mystery... [03:06] lamont: yeah, i know. it's used for other networks, when i mess with people's minds [03:06] hehe [03:06] It might take you ... seconds to solve [03:07] individuals of clue will note the similarities [03:09] kewl. console install of gutsy: /etc/event.d/ttyS* [03:09] that's with server install. [03:09] kewl. default was the right thing [03:09] (netboot) [03:09] Hobbsee: You are concerned with user experience, right (if I remember correctly)... [03:09] lamont: on non-cloaked networks it's useful. [03:10] Fjodor: that's oen of the things i'm concerned about, yes [03:11] Hobbsee: Thought so. Did you see my last two messages before I addressed you directly? [03:11] lamont: That build-score-clobbering bug should be fixed with 1.1.12. [03:11] Fjodor: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/123078 ? [03:11] Launchpad bug 123078 in gnome-session "System -> Quit takes a long time to appear" [Low,Confirmed] [03:11] ...and I apologize again for singling out individuals to complain to, but my gf is really bugging me about this one... [03:12] Hobbsee: Yes, indeed [03:14] For the longest time, I just assumed that it had hung, and ctrl-alt-backspaced it all... [03:15] ...and try to explain that to a non-literate in the arts of linux... [03:16] so... when I remove the password from /etc/shadow and make it say :: there... why can't I log in anymore? [03:17] Fjodor: "It's like ctl-alt-del, only with the backspace key instead'. :-) [03:17] lamont: That build-score-clobbering bug should be fixed with 1.1.12. [03:17] Oops. [03:17] Wrong button. [03:18] lamont: indeed, but she just wants a machine that *works* [03:19] yeah. my wife occasionally asks to install windoze for that reason, and I look at her strangely until she hits me. [03:19] all in all, I'm not sure that counts as a "win' [03:20] hrm... init=/bin/sh seems to have not quite done what I wanted. [03:20] * lamont declares victory and heads home [03:20] Haha [03:20] It didn't do what you want, so you're victorious. I see. [03:21] Fujitsu: no. I declared victory [03:21] Well, per request I gave her OSX. It took 10 minutes till she cried "Give me back my Ubuntu" :-) [03:21] which is to say, I redefined the problem. [03:21] And that counts as a win for all you guys :-) [03:21] Fjodor: those are nice wins. [03:22] and time for me to run away. [03:22] weird [03:22] back in a few hours [03:22] kdmthemes overrides are broken [03:23] and irc doesn't make a good todo list. [03:23] whatever [03:23] just letting you guys know [03:23] Jay-Oh-En: Yes, but there's no guarantee anyone who cares is here now. File a bug. [03:24] persia: they wouldn't be on this channel anyway [03:24] holy cow [03:24] aptitude segfaulted [03:24] why wouldnt they [03:24] persia: well ill files a bug [03:24] Jay-Oh-En: Thanks :) [03:24] Hobbsee: quit being so uptight [03:25] because they're likely on #Kubuntu-devel, and a lot of people aren't awake at this time of day anyway [03:25] heh [03:25] if he thought *that* was uptight... [03:25] * Fjodor tries in vain to step in for Hobbsee an say that she isn't uptight... [03:25] if he files a bug with the same content as his irc message, i'm going to have savage pleasure setting it to NEEDSINFO, and waiting for LP to do it's job. [03:26] Janitor reappears this release, sort of. [03:26] i thought it was always on now [03:26] Does that mean another few hundred bugs to undo? [03:27] When I say `sort of' I mean `with a per-project off button, and only commenting, not closing, so we can see what it will do when it is turned on properly' [03:27] oh *classy* [03:27] Oh, btw., have I told you about this strange bug that I seem to be the only one to have on my office machine? [03:27] aptitude segfaults if you try to get a package on a changelog that doesn't exist [03:27] Does it? Nice of it. [03:27] yup [03:27] Hobbsee: That code is *horrid* [03:27] william@irranat:~$ aptitude changelog boom [03:27] E: Couldn't find a changelog for boom [03:28] * TheMuso is reminded of the aptitude fisco on Planet Debian recently. [03:28] Fujitsu: which version of aptitude? [03:28] Killing the apt transition, TheMuso? [03:28] Installed: 0.4.9-2ubuntu3 [03:29] Fujitsu: Yeah. [03:29] Fujitsu: strange. [03:30] What could cause gnome-update-manager to confuse it's buttons? I run it, but when I press "Install Updates", it acts as if I pressed "Check". And to make it stranger still, I can only reproduce it on my office machine... [03:32] something crackful... [03:34] Hobbsee: Indeed, but this machine is the one that was installed from scratch most recently... [03:34] ah ha. reprioritizing some of the stuff in gnome makes it start much quicker. [03:36] * TheMuso is shocked. Hobbsee still using GNOME? :) [03:37] Fjodor: the defaults look borked. [03:37] TheMuso: yeah, it appears so. [03:37] TheMuso: there's some really annoying stuff about it though [03:37] Hobbsee: Pointers? [03:37] TheMuso: kde sessions win over gnome's. although this priority stuff is nice [03:38] Fjodor: give the crucial stuff a priority of 40, then hit apply to each. [03:38] like, gnome-session-properties, gnome-volume stuff, etc [03:38] That's only because the KDE session information contains stuff as the last time you scratched yourself, where and for how long. [03:38] TheMuso: /me is using GNOME. I left the path of LFS/BLFS and WindowMaker some time ago, where you making a point? [03:39] Fjodor: Hobbsee is a KDE advocate. [03:39] * Hobbsee likes that you can you can start with an empty profile, start the stuff you want, and then hit "save current session" - which will restore things *exactly* how you've left them [03:40] which i haven't found out how to, under gnome. devilspie works somewhat, but dosen't do to tray [03:40] and doesn't appear to work if you have 2x2 windows [03:40] * Fjodor does not expect things to be as when he left them. Because then there must have been a power outage... [03:40] well, no, but i have a list of stuff that i want to start, every time. [03:41] (nm, gnome-do, pidgin, etc) [03:41] gnome-do? [03:41] TheMuso: Quiksilver for GNOME [03:41] see lp.net/gc [03:41] Hobbsee: Indeed, but does devilspie also place them in the correct workspaces? [03:41] StevenK: WHich is? [03:41] ...because then I might take alook [03:42] Fjodor: usually. when you run a 1 row thing, yes. when you run 2 rows, not always. [03:42] Hobbsee: Ok [03:42] devilspie is *nice* [03:42] TheMuso: Katapult is the KDE one [03:42] StevenK: What is quicksilver? [03:43] what [03:43] TheMuso: It's a quick launcher, hit alt-space, the first few letters, it'll try and match and hit enter to launch [03:43] I can't make fun of Hobbsee anymore for being a KDEhead? [03:43] StevenK: ah [03:43] bluefoxicy: i'm sure you can find something to make fun of, w.r.t. me. and i'm sure that i can ban you in return. [03:44] Well i could make fun of you for being a girl, but that's kind of childish in comparison to making fun of you for using KDE [03:44] Hey Hobbsee? Make me a bouncer, then I'll relay all messages and deride the senders in return :-) [03:44] * bluefoxicy gives Fjodor shades and a big stick. [03:44] You are now a bouncer. [03:44] * Hobbsee wonders why the words "castration" and "bluefoxicy" are coming to mind... [03:45] Badabum [03:45] And bluefoxicy: thanks :-) [03:46] Hobbsee: Wouldn't make much of a difference [03:48] How do I reset all of my gconf menu options to the factory-default, I remember there being an undocumented option something like gconf-editor --reset-defaults /location/in/gconf and I just need some help, thanks. [03:49] --recursive-delete I think [03:50] Hmmm, I was given shades and a big stick. Anyone in the mood for a joke? [03:51] (since nothing much else happens) [03:51] think not. [03:51] hodgson: Ok, sorry [03:58] damn [03:58] i can make an app dock with devilspie, but then it keeps docking === j_ack_ is now known as j_ack [04:22] hello everyone [04:22] wow..not really busy in here [04:22] is there anyone here? lol [04:23] oh, goody. --safe-upgrade for aptitude now behaves sanely, w.r.t new packages [04:23] at least, once mvo merges it across [04:25] Quiane: 22 seconds isn't a very large sample size. [04:27] * lamont does his happy dance. [04:28] 496 packages in needs-build hardy/hppa [04:28] lamont: That was a short departure. [04:28] * Fujitsu checks the number of failures. [04:28] 'twas the drive home [04:28] Not too bad, actually. [04:28] * Fujitsu is surprised at how quickly it is chewing through them, and the success rate. [04:28] 22 miles [04:29] gutsy was at >97% in gutsy-stage0 [04:29] * Fujitsu charges lamont with use of imperial units. [04:29] * lamont notes that he is imperial, after all. [04:29] * Fujitsu bows. [04:30] great. LinuxOLD boots, Linux doesn't. that's gonna take a little love [04:30] * lamont afk for a bit === asac_ is now known as asac [04:41] i'm here actually! [04:41] i was just talking in the other room [04:42] Ok, so I've got a decently well-directed question: Where are the terminal preferences stored? As in the right-click ->options->preferences on the panel [04:43] is it in gconfeditor, a conf file, or some other random esoteric gnome location that is plesently undocumented [04:45] hodgson: Which terminal are you using? Gnome-terminal? If gnome-terminal, then gconf. [04:47] oh shoot [04:47] not terminal preferences [04:47] panel preferences* [04:48] specifically the one top one, I think it is called the ''application-launcher'', has applications/places/systems by default [04:48] Oh then I'm not really sure. [04:51] anyone using raid-for-root [04:51] ? [04:52] fucking gnome [04:52] * lamont tries to remember the incantation to get initramfs to stop during each step [04:52] I swear to god it gets more shitty with each growing interation. [04:52] Ok get this -- ~/.config/menus/applications-menu [04:53] how the hell. [04:53] I swear last week it was it was in gconf-editor, and you could reset it with --recursive-unset, before that I remember it being in ~/.gnome, or the like. [04:54] !ohmy [04:54] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [04:54] where the hell did ~/.config come from === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK === cassidy_ is now known as cassidy [05:56] ah. mischief managed. [05:56] adding md-mod and raid456 to /etc/modules makes life much happier. [05:57] (root being raid5, it helps to have the modules needed to support that in the initrd) [05:57] something in initramfs should notice that [05:58] * persia thinks /etc/modules is currently entirely manually managed, and encourages a migration to /etc/modules.d/ [06:11] Hi all! [07:15] Good morning [07:15] Hey pitti. [07:16] pitti: So, why do libgsl0 and libglib1.2 show as FTBFS in the NBS list? They don't. [07:16] They changed library names and grew a suffix [07:18] StevenK: hm, good question [07:21] * pitti accepts l-b-m and linux-meta [07:28] StevenK: fixed, thanks; running again now [07:28] good morning [07:28] Hey dholbach. [07:29] heya Fujitsu [07:32] pitti: Thanks [07:35] z,cb 5 [07:35] Oops. [07:52] good morning [08:02] infinity: can you please commit your pkg-create-dbgsym changes to bzr? [08:33] hey seb128, hey Toadstool! [08:33] hey glatzor, jsgotangco! [08:34] hello dholbach [08:34] yo! [08:34] :-) [08:34] * jsgotangco currently at a domestic airport going back home [08:34] servus dholbach! [08:34] * dholbach hugs y'all [08:34] ho ho ho! [08:35] Hi dholbach et al. [08:35] hiya ion_ :) [08:35] I ordered a Waldorf Micro-Q synthesizer yesterday. ♥ [08:36] NICE [08:36] let me know when there are tracks I can download :) [08:37] I haven’t got pretty much any music at all made for a long time with this health, though. [08:40] hey blueyed_ [08:40] ion_: I'm sure you'll come up with something soon :-) === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [08:45] slangasek: did you notice debian bug 456915? [08:45] Debian bug 456915 in boost "boost: FTBFS: build.sh: line 15: gcc-4.1: command not found" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/456915 [08:47] tjaalton: heh, thanks for the heads-up [08:50] dholbach: I hope so. :-) [08:51] slangasek: np. What about flute-1.3-jfree that the new openoffice needs, will it be promoted to main? [08:54] tjaalton: not my department :) we're trimming OOo-base from the seed for alpha2 instead in the meantime [08:55] slangasek: ah, ok :) [08:56] * Fujitsu wonders if anybody uses OOo Base. [08:57] I've used it in the past [08:57] only for ODBC :) [08:57]