| soren | Try the link from above again. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Goosemoose | works now | 00:07 |
| soren | Great. | 00:19 |
| Goosemoose | trying to reinstall now | 00:20 |
| * soren is going to bed | 00:23 | |
| Goosemoose | good night! | 00:34 |
| Goosemoose | im taking off for home | 00:34 |
| Goosemoose | ill check on this tomorrow | 00:34 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2396 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog desktop/ubiquity-mythbuntu.desktop.in): show proper image in ubiquity-mythbuntu.desktop | 06:27 |
| CIA-4 | casper: cjwatson * r455 casper/debian/ (casper.init changelog): | 09:15 |
| CIA-4 | casper: * Avoid ejecting the CD if booting from an ISO image rather than from a | 09:15 |
| CIA-4 | casper: physical CD (thanks, Agostino Russo; LP: #176014). | 09:15 |
| CIA-4 | casper: cjwatson * r456 casper/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.113 | 09:20 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, I am back, thanks for the thumbs up | 11:36 |
| xivulon | I have posted a second patch for fstab.d (bug 173659) | 11:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173659 in partman-auto-loop "Add /host/boot to fstab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173659 | 11:37 |
| xivulon | That said I think I have to go through finish.d as well since the mounting scripts there do not seem to like bindmounts | 11:38 |
| xivulon | did not have time to do it yesterday | 11:39 |
| === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson | ||
| Goosemoose | Hey Guys | 17:48 |
| Goosemoose | Soren, that fix yesterday worked for security, the install went through fine. Only problem now is that I still need to remove 'splash' from grub to get ubuntu to start | 17:49 |
| Goosemoose | cjwatson, you around? | 17:57 |
| Goosemoose | hey stgraber, i noticed you don't have any monitor d-i commands in your preseed file, how are you handling that? | 18:11 |
| Torgoton | Hey all. I know this may be the wrong forum, but I'm having serious trouble with the Mini ISO, and no one in #ubuntu seems to have any clue that the Mini ISO even exists. Would I be way OT here? | 18:17 |
| Goosemoose | Sorry, I'm not sure what the mini iso is either. That like the usb version? | 18:19 |
| Torgoton | It's a small ISO (9MB for Gutsy) that is supposed to allow installation over a network. It crashes on my system. | 18:20 |
| Goosemoose | Ahh, I'm installing over a network using a local server and a tftp server | 18:21 |
| Goosemoose | that what you're talking about? | 18:21 |
| Torgoton | Yes, but the Mini ISO is supposed to ... help ... and be a smaller download. I also think it can use ftp or http besides tftp, and it can install from the usual repositories. | 18:22 |
| Torgoton | I have captured the startup log here, FYI: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48887/ | 18:25 |
| Goosemoose | Sorry, I wouldn't the one to help you there. I'm still trying to get my network install to work properly | 18:26 |
| Torgoton | Best of luck! | 18:27 |
| Goosemoose | you too | 18:27 |
| Goosemoose | when some of the other guys come back around , they are very helpful | 18:27 |
| Torgoton | Thanks. Any other rooms you might suggest? | 18:46 |
| Torgoton | #ubuntu-boot maybe? | 18:46 |
| Torgoton | laptop? server? | 18:47 |
| Goosemoose | ubuntu-server | 19:36 |
| xivulon | Goosemoose if you install over a local server you may also use pxe booting without any need for an ISO | 19:48 |
| xivulon | unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x260 might that be because of bad memory? | 19:48 |
| xivulon | at least that was what came out on a quick googling | 19:49 |
| xivulon | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516953 | 19:49 |
| xivulon | don't think that unknown_bootoption is per se a fatal error though | 19:50 |
| xivulon | the command line options look strange | 19:59 |
| xivulon | Here is a guide for pxe installation: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install | 20:00 |
| xivulon | Torgoton see if the above helps | 20:16 |
| xivulon | The dump shows 36MB available, is this what you have? | 20:18 |
| Torgoton | xivulon, thanks! But I haven't found a PXE guide that works with a laptop. I'm going to try with the alternate CD. Downloading now. | 20:18 |
| Torgoton | Yes 36MB. | 20:18 |
| xivulon | Not sure whether that is enough for Ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements | 20:20 |
| xivulon | even though I would not think that would trigger a kernel panic | 20:21 |
| xivulon | for PXE you need to have an ethernet card/bios that supports network booting | 20:23 |
| Torgoton | A page says the alternate requires 32MB | 20:23 |
| Torgoton | My laptop does, but the card doesn't. There are boot floppies that then do a PXE, but not for laptops, that I've seen. | 20:24 |
| Torgoton | here it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems | 20:25 |
| xivulon | 32MB is the absolute minimum, you might also want to consider distros that are designed for low spec such as DSL or PuppyLinux | 20:27 |
| Torgoton | I tried DSL, but DSL really likes a CD drive, and this machine doesn't have one. Since Ubuntu claims to need 32MB RAM, and run on a 486, I'd really like to give it a good try. | 20:27 |
| xivulon | did you try different acpi boot options such as acpi=off/acpi=force? | 20:34 |
| Torgoton | heh. there's no ACPI on this machine. I have tried NOACPI. | 20:34 |
| xivulon | acpi=off | 20:34 |
| Torgoton | ok. I'll try that. I'm copying the alternate ISO to the machine now (will take 35 minutes!) and then will extract the files to a partition, then use lilo to start it, like I did the mini ISO. | 20:35 |
| Goosemoose | xivulon, i am using pxe for my installs | 20:41 |
| Goosemoose | Torgoton is using the iso | 20:41 |
| Goosemoose | my problem is the splash line in grub is preventing startup | 20:42 |
| Goosemoose | i have to manually remove it | 20:42 |
| xivulon | Torgoton, if you have to go through all that trouble and already have a bootloader capable of launching a kernel (assuming you can also make it work) then you can use a netboot approach | 20:43 |
| Torgoton | One would think. I tried debootstrap, but since I'm on Woody, it fails because the kernel is too old when it attempts to chroot. | 20:44 |
| xivulon | you save on HD the netboot kernel/initrd and boot those with whatever bootloader you want, it's still an alternate installer except that deb packages are downloaded on the fly | 20:45 |
| xivulon | Goosemoose what do you mean that usplash is preventing startup? And why is it difficult to remove? | 20:46 |
| xivulon | # defoptions=quiet splash | 20:47 |
| Goosemoose | because im using pxe to install on 500 machines | 20:48 |
| xivulon | that's the menu.lst line to change then you run update-grub | 20:48 |
| Goosemoose | yes, in the grub line the command splash is creating a blank screen on boot | 20:48 |
| Goosemoose | if i remove it , im fine | 20:48 |
| Torgoton | xivulon, netboot kernel/initrd is exactly what should be on the mini iso. That didn't seem to work, as seen by my debug dump. | 20:48 |
| xivulon | netboot spares you the trouble to download a full ISO, it does not fix kernel panic. | 20:49 |
| Torgoton | heh | 20:49 |
| xivulon | It does not matter what installation method you use since all use the same kernel | 20:50 |
| Torgoton | well then... what's the issue, might you suppose? | 20:50 |
| xivulon | I am not a kernel expert by a long stretch, I suppose acpi or memory. | 20:51 |
| Torgoton | Does the kernel really work on a 486? I mean... do you know what would happen if it were compiled for pentium? | 20:53 |
| xivulon | Goosemoose, "splash" should be in the kernel options passed to the pxe clients by the server | 20:53 |
| xivulon | My guess is that the kernel should work on a 486, but do not trust what I say on this topic | 20:54 |
| Goosemoose | these are P4's | 20:56 |
| xivulon | P4 will surely work | 20:57 |
| Goosemoose | only works if i remove splash | 20:57 |
| xivulon | my bad was thinking you where referring about usplash in the installation initrd as opposed to the installed initrd, of course the first one does not use usplash at all | 21:00 |
| xivulon | not sure if you can preseed menu.lst defoptions | 21:03 |
| xivulon | I seem to remember that defoptions is generated also using installation-time boot parameters (cannot look at the code now) | 21:04 |
| xivulon | In case you can use late_command/success_command to change that | 21:07 |
| Goosemoose | hmm | 21:10 |
| xivulon | no framebuffer also has as sideeffect to disable splash in menu.lst | 21:16 |
| xivulon | debian-installer/framebuffer=false | 21:17 |
| xivulon | I am sure cjwatson can suggest more elegant ways | 21:17 |
| xivulon | it's worth trying booting with "nosplash" that might be carried through via grub-installer into menu.lst | 21:22 |
| Goosemoose | does the framebuffer=false have any other affects? | 21:48 |
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