[00:00] Try the link from above again. [00:07] works now [00:19] Great. [00:20] trying to reinstall now [00:23] * soren is going to bed [00:34] good night! [00:34] im taking off for home [00:34] ill check on this tomorrow [06:27] ubiquity: superm1 * r2396 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog desktop/ubiquity-mythbuntu.desktop.in): show proper image in ubiquity-mythbuntu.desktop [09:15] casper: cjwatson * r455 casper/debian/ (casper.init changelog): [09:15] casper: * Avoid ejecting the CD if booting from an ISO image rather than from a [09:15] casper: physical CD (thanks, Agostino Russo; LP: #176014). [09:20] casper: cjwatson * r456 casper/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.113 [11:36] cjwatson, I am back, thanks for the thumbs up [11:37] I have posted a second patch for fstab.d (bug 173659) [11:37] Launchpad bug 173659 in partman-auto-loop "Add /host/boot to fstab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173659 [11:38] That said I think I have to go through finish.d as well since the mounting scripts there do not seem to like bindmounts [11:39] did not have time to do it yesterday === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [17:48] Hey Guys [17:49] Soren, that fix yesterday worked for security, the install went through fine. Only problem now is that I still need to remove 'splash' from grub to get ubuntu to start [17:57] cjwatson, you around? [18:11] hey stgraber, i noticed you don't have any monitor d-i commands in your preseed file, how are you handling that? [18:17] Hey all. I know this may be the wrong forum, but I'm having serious trouble with the Mini ISO, and no one in #ubuntu seems to have any clue that the Mini ISO even exists. Would I be way OT here? [18:19] Sorry, I'm not sure what the mini iso is either. That like the usb version? [18:20] It's a small ISO (9MB for Gutsy) that is supposed to allow installation over a network. It crashes on my system. [18:21] Ahh, I'm installing over a network using a local server and a tftp server [18:21] that what you're talking about? [18:22] Yes, but the Mini ISO is supposed to ... help ... and be a smaller download. I also think it can use ftp or http besides tftp, and it can install from the usual repositories. [18:25] I have captured the startup log here, FYI: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48887/ [18:26] Sorry, I wouldn't the one to help you there. I'm still trying to get my network install to work properly [18:27] Best of luck! [18:27] you too [18:27] when some of the other guys come back around , they are very helpful [18:46] Thanks. Any other rooms you might suggest? [18:46] #ubuntu-boot maybe? [18:47] laptop? server? [19:36] ubuntu-server [19:48] Goosemoose if you install over a local server you may also use pxe booting without any need for an ISO [19:48] unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x260 might that be because of bad memory? [19:49] at least that was what came out on a quick googling [19:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516953 [19:50] don't think that unknown_bootoption is per se a fatal error though [19:59] the command line options look strange [20:00] Here is a guide for pxe installation: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install [20:16] Torgoton see if the above helps [20:18] The dump shows 36MB available, is this what you have? [20:18] xivulon, thanks! But I haven't found a PXE guide that works with a laptop. I'm going to try with the alternate CD. Downloading now. [20:18] Yes 36MB. [20:20] Not sure whether that is enough for Ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements [20:21] even though I would not think that would trigger a kernel panic [20:23] for PXE you need to have an ethernet card/bios that supports network booting [20:23] A page says the alternate requires 32MB [20:24] My laptop does, but the card doesn't. There are boot floppies that then do a PXE, but not for laptops, that I've seen. [20:25] here it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems [20:27] 32MB is the absolute minimum, you might also want to consider distros that are designed for low spec such as DSL or PuppyLinux [20:27] I tried DSL, but DSL really likes a CD drive, and this machine doesn't have one. Since Ubuntu claims to need 32MB RAM, and run on a 486, I'd really like to give it a good try. [20:34] did you try different acpi boot options such as acpi=off/acpi=force? [20:34] heh. there's no ACPI on this machine. I have tried NOACPI. [20:34] acpi=off [20:35] ok. I'll try that. I'm copying the alternate ISO to the machine now (will take 35 minutes!) and then will extract the files to a partition, then use lilo to start it, like I did the mini ISO. [20:41] xivulon, i am using pxe for my installs [20:41] Torgoton is using the iso [20:42] my problem is the splash line in grub is preventing startup [20:42] i have to manually remove it [20:43] Torgoton, if you have to go through all that trouble and already have a bootloader capable of launching a kernel (assuming you can also make it work) then you can use a netboot approach [20:44] One would think. I tried debootstrap, but since I'm on Woody, it fails because the kernel is too old when it attempts to chroot. [20:45] you save on HD the netboot kernel/initrd and boot those with whatever bootloader you want, it's still an alternate installer except that deb packages are downloaded on the fly [20:46] Goosemoose what do you mean that usplash is preventing startup? And why is it difficult to remove? [20:47] # defoptions=quiet splash [20:48] because im using pxe to install on 500 machines [20:48] that's the menu.lst line to change then you run update-grub [20:48] yes, in the grub line the command splash is creating a blank screen on boot [20:48] if i remove it , im fine [20:48] xivulon, netboot kernel/initrd is exactly what should be on the mini iso. That didn't seem to work, as seen by my debug dump. [20:49] netboot spares you the trouble to download a full ISO, it does not fix kernel panic. [20:49] heh [20:50] It does not matter what installation method you use since all use the same kernel [20:50] well then... what's the issue, might you suppose? [20:51] I am not a kernel expert by a long stretch, I suppose acpi or memory. [20:53] Does the kernel really work on a 486? I mean... do you know what would happen if it were compiled for pentium? [20:53] Goosemoose, "splash" should be in the kernel options passed to the pxe clients by the server [20:54] My guess is that the kernel should work on a 486, but do not trust what I say on this topic [20:56] these are P4's [20:57] P4 will surely work [20:57] only works if i remove splash [21:00] my bad was thinking you where referring about usplash in the installation initrd as opposed to the installed initrd, of course the first one does not use usplash at all [21:03] not sure if you can preseed menu.lst defoptions [21:04] I seem to remember that defoptions is generated also using installation-time boot parameters (cannot look at the code now) [21:07] In case you can use late_command/success_command to change that [21:10] hmm [21:16] no framebuffer also has as sideeffect to disable splash in menu.lst [21:17] debian-installer/framebuffer=false [21:17] I am sure cjwatson can suggest more elegant ways [21:22] it's worth trying booting with "nosplash" that might be carried through via grub-installer into menu.lst [21:48] does the framebuffer=false have any other affects?