| jayson_r | zul: I'm assuming you mean these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies | 00:00 |
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| zul | Jayson_r: yep | 00:00 |
| zul | since when has there been 154 bugs for the hardy kernel...oh wait never mind | 00:02 |
| BenC | lamont: I'm not sure...I'm not even sure that the team is useful | 00:07 |
| jayson_r | BenC: I'll do what I can to make it useful :-) | 00:08 |
| zul | hah suck on it vmlinuz-2.6.24-rc5-xen | 00:42 |
| zul | now to go watch the hockey game | 00:42 |
| lamont | BenC: I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that an underlying gutsy install is good foryou. | 01:27 |
| d|v | anybody know if intel pentium M dotham support was removed | 03:28 |
| d|v | in the latest kernel | 03:28 |
| d|v | speed stepping is no longer working | 03:28 |
| clever | how would i go about finding the difference between linux-image-2.6.20-16-386 and linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 within certain files? | 03:29 |
| d|v | what do you mean files | 03:30 |
| clever | a certain wifi driver has started to panic | 03:30 |
| clever | in 2.6.20 it runs fine | 03:30 |
| clever | in .22 it panics | 03:30 |
| clever | id like to compare the source for those drivers to see what they f'ed up:P | 03:31 |
| d|v | you can type in the linux kernel into google | 03:32 |
| d|v | and it will load up the ubuntu kernel page | 03:32 |
| clever | the driver isnt in the mainline kernel | 03:32 |
| d|v | and then you can download the source | 03:32 |
| clever | its only within the ubuntu kernel | 03:32 |
| d|v | and look at that | 03:32 |
| d|v | http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/base/linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic | 03:33 |
| d|v | something along those lines | 03:33 |
| superm1 | d|v, kernel.ubuntu.com/git will get you both git trees | 03:33 |
| clever | ive riped it out of a apt-get source before and merged it into a diff kernel on another pc | 03:33 |
| superm1 | you can download the source of the modules and diff them | 03:33 |
| d|v | hey super do you know broke speed stepping | 03:33 |
| clever | yep thats what i want to do | 03:33 |
| d|v | in the latest kernel | 03:33 |
| d|v | intel pentium M processors are stuck at 600 mhz | 03:34 |
| d|v | with the dotham core | 03:34 |
| clever | also .20 lacks a -generic(with smp) which is painfull on my new laptop | 03:34 |
| clever | im stuck with the choice of smp or wifi | 03:34 |
| d|v | its a known bug | 03:34 |
| d|v | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132271 | 03:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132271 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[GUTSY] cpu freq scaling not working anymore" [Low,Won't fix] | 03:34 |
| clever | and the ethernet cord is damaged and falls out | 03:35 |
| d|v | but i can't figure out how to patch it | 03:35 |
| d|v | and yes they aren't bothering to fix it | 03:35 |
| clever | this driver half crashed 1 release ago | 03:36 |
| clever | and now its just getting worse | 03:36 |
| clever | it loose the last char in the essid | 03:36 |
| d|v | i had problems | 03:36 |
| d|v | with broadcomm wifi | 03:36 |
| clever | my broadcomm refuses to work | 03:36 |
| clever | no signal | 03:36 |
| clever | 0/100 link quality | 03:36 |
| d|v | you need the drive | 03:36 |
| d|v | driver | 03:36 |
| clever | i have the firmware | 03:36 |
| d|v | firmware | 03:36 |
| d|v | yeah | 03:36 |
| clever | i just gave up | 03:36 |
| d|v | i used that on mine | 03:37 |
| d|v | to get my wifi working | 03:37 |
| clever | and shove this in the pcmcia slot | 03:37 |
| clever | 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20) | 03:37 |
| clever | PANIC! | 03:37 |
| clever | the -generic is .22 so it panics on that driver | 03:37 |
| d|v | worst case you can use | 03:37 |
| d|v | ndiswrapper | 03:37 |
| clever | i could downgrade the box to .6.20 | 03:37 |
| d|v | its a bitch to configure | 03:37 |
| clever | but then i loose smp and half my speed | 03:37 |
| d|v | i'm stuck using the 2.6.20-16-generic kernel | 03:38 |
| clever | i cant find a -generic of that | 03:38 |
| d|v | the latest 2.6.22 kernel | 03:38 |
| d|v | killed my processor | 03:39 |
| clever | ouch | 03:39 |
| d|v | it locks it in at 600 mhz | 03:39 |
| d|v | a 1.7 gigahertz processor | 03:39 |
| clever | ah | 03:39 |
| clever | my newest system is dual 1.8ghz | 03:39 |
| d|v | speed stepping is trashed | 03:39 |
| clever | can step down as far as 800mhz | 03:39 |
| d|v | and its a low priortiy bug | 03:39 |
| d|v | that they aren't going to fix | 03:39 |
| clever | my wifi driver was blacklisted so it wouldnt panic systems on boot | 03:40 |
| d|v | theyre removing the speedstep-centrino | 03:40 |
| d|v | from the kernel | 03:40 |
| d|v | so if you happen to have an intel pentium M processor | 03:40 |
| clever | i cant even install 2.6.20 on the smp system | 03:40 |
| d|v | you need to build your own kernel from now on and patch it | 03:41 |
| clever | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz | 03:41 |
| clever | model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) | 03:41 |
| d|v | i here there are problems | 03:41 |
| d|v | with dual core | 03:41 |
| d|v | processors as well | 03:41 |
| clever | model name : Pentium II (Deschutes) | 03:41 |
| clever | thats most of my ubuntu cpu's | 03:41 |
| d|v | i might go to fedora | 03:41 |
| d|v | i don't want to have to constantly patch the kernel everytime there is a new relase | 03:42 |
| clever | E: Unable to find a source package for linux-source-2.6.20 | 03:43 |
| clever | cant get the old source to compare:P | 03:43 |
| clever | ah part of the last release | 03:43 |
| d|v | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132271 | 03:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132271 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[GUTSY] cpu freq scaling not working anymore" [Low,Won't fix] | 03:43 |
| * clever adds more sources | 03:43 | |
| clever | got the source the the 2 kernels | 03:51 |
| clever | now to simply apply the diff and then diff it myself | 03:51 |
| d|v | i found a patch | 03:51 |
| d|v | hoping it iwll work | 03:51 |
| d|v | on the new kernel | 03:51 |
| clever | if you submit it they shold be able to just t and include it | 03:52 |
| clever | without having to do any actual dev work | 03:52 |
| clever | but thats the fun in open source | 03:55 |
| clever | with winblows you cant even patch the kernel:P | 03:55 |
| d|v | yeah i just use windows for gaming | 03:56 |
| clever | and how many bugs might the video driver have?:P | 03:56 |
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| clever | d|v: how would i apply the diff that i get with a kernel source to make the -16 version? | 04:34 |
| clever | -p0 seems do it | 04:38 |
| clever | seems they changed from r818x to r8180 | 04:46 |
| clever | wait | 04:46 |
| clever | cant even find the rtl drivers in .22-14 | 04:46 |
| * lamont grumbles at mdadm | 04:51 | |
| clever | im getting lost just trying to compare changes to this driver to track down a panic | 04:52 |
| clever | cant even find the source in the kernel that panics | 04:52 |
| clever | looksike the modules have been split into there own source package | 04:55 |
| clever | yeah here the source is:) | 04:56 |
| clever | now i need a panic msg | 04:58 |
| clever | null modem hooked up | 05:02 |
| clever | using a nfs root system for the panic'ing | 05:03 |
| clever | less chance of damage to the root | 05:03 |
| clever | got a backtrace:) | 05:37 |
| clever | now i could reverse changes to that and try again | 05:37 |
| kraut | moin | 07:36 |
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| pmjdebruijn | hi | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm having issues installing ubuntu-7.10-server on my HP DL380-G2 | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | it has a ServerWorks HE-SL chipset | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | during the install, e2fsprogs goes wonky | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | (the installation of e2fsprogs that is) | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | however when using debian, it works just fine | 14:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | My guess, is the new SATA style PATA drivers are causing this issue | 14:29 |
| pmjdebruijn | as Debian doesn't use those, and Ubuntu does | 14:29 |
| pmjdebruijn | is there any way to force those older drivers on Ubuntu as well? | 14:29 |
| zul | all_generic_ide | 14:29 |
| pmjdebruijn | ok, I'll try that then | 14:32 |
| pmjdebruijn | say, if that would solve my issue, what information would I need to provide to get the new style module blacklisted for my system? | 14:33 |
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| cathyal | where's cj | 15:41 |
| cathyal | maybe not | 15:41 |
| cathyal | ;/ | 15:41 |
| reynaldo | about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/177493 | 16:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177493 in acpi "DELL Inspiron 6400 won't come back after trying to resume from hibernate with lid closed" [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
| reynaldo | I was unsure about making it an acpi or hibernate bug, went with acpi only because it is the close lid what seems to trigger it | 16:02 |
| reynaldo | hope its ok | 16:02 |
| reynaldo | other than that, its confirmed, I have done several try outs, all with the same outcome. | 16:03 |
| mjg59 | reynaldo: acpi is a small program that prints battery information. File it against the kernel. | 16:52 |
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| reynaldo | mjg59: oh, thought it refered to ACPI as, well, ACPI :-) | 17:35 |
| mjg59 | No | 17:35 |
| reynaldo | mjg59: changed acordingly. Thanks. | 17:53 |
| mjg59 | No problem | 18:09 |
| elcasey | is joydev or other joystick modules that were broken in feisty still broken in gutsy? | 18:20 |
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| pawalls | Shite... | 21:41 |
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