[00:00] <jayson_r> zul: I'm assuming you mean these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[00:00] <zul> Jayson_r: yep
[00:02] <zul> since when has there been 154 bugs for the hardy kernel...oh wait never mind
[00:07] <BenC> lamont: I'm not sure...I'm not even sure that the team is useful
[00:08] <jayson_r> BenC: I'll do what I can to make it useful :-)
[00:42] <zul> hah suck on it vmlinuz-2.6.24-rc5-xen
[00:42] <zul> now to go watch the hockey game
[01:27] <lamont> BenC: I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that an underlying gutsy install is good foryou.
[03:28] <d|v> anybody know if intel pentium M dotham support was removed 
[03:28] <d|v> in the latest kernel
[03:28] <d|v> speed stepping is no longer working
[03:29] <clever> how would i go about finding the difference between linux-image-2.6.20-16-386 and linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 within certain files?
[03:30] <d|v> what do you mean files
[03:30] <clever> a certain wifi driver has started to panic
[03:30] <clever> in 2.6.20 it runs fine
[03:30] <clever> in .22 it panics
[03:31] <clever> id like to compare the source for those drivers to see what they f'ed up:P
[03:32] <d|v> you can type in the linux kernel into google
[03:32] <d|v> and it will load up the ubuntu kernel page
[03:32] <clever> the driver isnt in the mainline kernel
[03:32] <d|v> and then you can download the source
[03:32] <clever> its only within the ubuntu kernel
[03:32] <d|v> and look at that
[03:33] <d|v> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/base/linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic
[03:33] <d|v> something along those lines
[03:33] <superm1> d|v, kernel.ubuntu.com/git will get you both git trees
[03:33] <clever> ive riped it out of a apt-get source before and merged it into a diff kernel on another pc
[03:33] <superm1> you can download the source of the modules and diff them
[03:33] <d|v> hey super do you know broke speed stepping
[03:33] <clever> yep thats what i want to do
[03:33] <d|v> in the latest kernel
[03:34] <d|v> intel pentium M processors are stuck at 600 mhz
[03:34] <d|v> with the dotham core
[03:34] <clever> also .20 lacks a -generic(with smp) which is painfull on my new laptop
[03:34] <clever> im stuck with the choice of smp or wifi
[03:34] <d|v> its a known bug
[03:34] <d|v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132271
[03:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132271 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[GUTSY] cpu freq scaling not working anymore" [Low,Won't fix] 
[03:35] <clever> and the ethernet cord is damaged and falls out
[03:35] <d|v> but i can't figure out how to patch it
[03:35] <d|v> and yes they aren't bothering to fix it
[03:36] <clever> this driver half crashed 1 release ago
[03:36] <clever> and now its just getting worse
[03:36] <clever> it loose the last char in the essid
[03:36] <d|v> i had problems
[03:36] <d|v> with broadcomm wifi
[03:36] <clever> my broadcomm refuses to work
[03:36] <clever> no signal
[03:36] <clever> 0/100 link quality
[03:36] <d|v> you need the drive
[03:36] <d|v> driver
[03:36] <clever> i have the firmware
[03:36] <d|v> firmware
[03:36] <d|v> yeah
[03:36] <clever> i just gave up
[03:37] <d|v> i used that on mine
[03:37] <d|v> to get my wifi working
[03:37] <clever> and shove this in the pcmcia slot
[03:37] <clever> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[03:37] <clever> PANIC!
[03:37] <clever> the -generic is .22 so it panics on that driver
[03:37] <d|v> worst case you can use
[03:37] <d|v> ndiswrapper
[03:37] <clever> i could downgrade the box to .6.20
[03:37] <d|v> its a bitch to configure
[03:37] <clever> but then i loose smp and half my speed
[03:38] <d|v> i'm stuck using the 2.6.20-16-generic kernel
[03:38] <clever> i cant find a -generic of that
[03:38] <d|v> the latest 2.6.22 kernel
[03:39] <d|v> killed my processor
[03:39] <clever> ouch
[03:39] <d|v> it locks it in at 600 mhz
[03:39] <d|v> a 1.7 gigahertz processor
[03:39] <clever> ah
[03:39] <clever> my newest system is dual 1.8ghz
[03:39] <d|v> speed stepping is trashed
[03:39] <clever> can step down as far as 800mhz
[03:39] <d|v> and its a low priortiy bug
[03:39] <d|v> that they aren't going to fix
[03:40] <clever> my wifi driver was blacklisted so it wouldnt panic systems on boot
[03:40] <d|v> theyre removing the speedstep-centrino
[03:40] <d|v> from the kernel
[03:40] <d|v> so if you happen to have an intel pentium M processor 
[03:40] <clever> i cant even install 2.6.20 on the smp system
[03:41] <d|v> you need to build your own kernel from now on and patch it
[03:41] <clever> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T7100  @ 1.80GHz
[03:41] <clever> model name      : Pentium III (Coppermine)
[03:41] <d|v> i here there are problems
[03:41] <d|v> with dual core
[03:41] <d|v> processors as well
[03:41] <clever> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
[03:41] <clever> thats most of my ubuntu cpu's
[03:41] <d|v> i might go to fedora
[03:42] <d|v> i don't want to have to constantly patch the kernel everytime there is a new relase
[03:43] <clever> E: Unable to find a source package for linux-source-2.6.20
[03:43] <clever> cant get the old source to compare:P
[03:43] <clever> ah part of the last release
[03:43] <d|v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132271
[03:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132271 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[GUTSY] cpu freq scaling not working anymore" [Low,Won't fix] 
[03:43]  * clever adds more sources
[03:51] <clever> got the source the the 2 kernels
[03:51] <clever> now to simply apply the diff and then diff it myself
[03:51] <d|v> i found a patch
[03:51] <d|v> hoping it iwll work
[03:51] <d|v> on the new kernel
[03:52] <clever> if you submit it they shold be able to just t and include it
[03:52] <clever> without having to do any actual dev work
[03:55] <clever>  but thats the fun in open source
[03:55] <clever> with winblows you cant even patch the kernel:P
[03:56] <d|v> yeah i just use windows for gaming
[03:56] <clever> and how many bugs might the video driver have?:P
[04:34] <clever> d|v: how would i apply the diff that i get with a kernel source to make the -16 version?
[04:38] <clever> -p0 seems do it
[04:46] <clever> seems they changed from r818x to r8180
[04:46] <clever> wait
[04:46] <clever> cant even find the rtl drivers in .22-14
[04:51]  * lamont grumbles at mdadm
[04:52] <clever> im getting lost just trying to compare changes to this driver to track down a panic
[04:52] <clever> cant even find the source in the kernel that panics
[04:55] <clever> looksike the modules have been split into there own source package
[04:56] <clever> yeah here the source is:)
[04:58] <clever> now i need a panic msg
[05:02] <clever> null modem hooked up
[05:03] <clever> using a nfs root system for the panic'ing
[05:03] <clever> less chance of damage to the root
[05:37] <clever> got a backtrace:)
[05:37] <clever> now i could reverse changes to that and try again
[07:36] <kraut> moin
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> I'm having issues installing ubuntu-7.10-server on my HP DL380-G2
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> it has a ServerWorks HE-SL chipset
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> during the install, e2fsprogs goes wonky
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> (the installation of e2fsprogs that is)
[14:28] <pmjdebruijn> however when using debian, it works just fine
[14:29] <pmjdebruijn> My guess, is the new SATA style PATA drivers are causing this issue
[14:29] <pmjdebruijn> as Debian doesn't use those, and Ubuntu does
[14:29] <pmjdebruijn> is there any way to force those older drivers on Ubuntu as well?
[14:29] <zul> all_generic_ide
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> ok, I'll try that then
[14:33] <pmjdebruijn> say, if that would solve my issue, what information would I need to provide to get the new style module blacklisted for my system?
[15:41] <cathyal> where's cj
[15:41] <cathyal> maybe not
[15:41] <cathyal> ;/
[16:01] <reynaldo> about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/177493
[16:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177493 in acpi "DELL Inspiron 6400 won't come back after trying to resume from hibernate with lid closed" [Undecided,New] 
[16:02] <reynaldo> I was unsure about making it an acpi or hibernate bug, went with acpi only because it is the close lid what seems to trigger it
[16:02] <reynaldo> hope its ok
[16:03] <reynaldo> other than that, its confirmed, I have done several try outs, all with the same outcome.
[16:52] <mjg59> reynaldo: acpi is a small program that prints battery information. File it against the kernel.
[17:35] <reynaldo> mjg59: oh, thought it refered to ACPI as, well, ACPI :-)
[17:35] <mjg59> No
[17:53] <reynaldo> mjg59: changed acordingly. Thanks.
[18:09] <mjg59> No problem
[18:20] <elcasey> is joydev or other joystick modules that were broken in feisty still broken in gutsy?
[21:41] <pawalls> Shite...