[00:00] ok [00:00] yea i am buying a new machine [00:00] there's no comparison, performancewise. if you're insistent on amd for some bizarre reason, you want am2 [00:00] naa, just trying to make a good HD system, that will last for a while [00:01] don't want to have to build a new one in 2 years when supposedly SD content dies [00:01] http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115031 [00:01] in all the benchmarks I've read I would agree, go intel, but if you get a black edition amd then they can be overclocked and the difference between intel/amd narrows a lot [00:01] is that processor good enough [00:02] how sad, my HTPC will be so much better then my PC that i actually use .... [00:02] lol, mines the same way [00:03] k thanks for the help guys, i guess i'll go with that processor [00:04] I couldn't tell you much about that processor versus my 6300, (other than the different FSB and core), but my fan barely runs, which is kinda nice [00:06] i see [00:06] get a good board though [00:07] maybe something that will allow a good upgrade path in the future [00:10] k, when i find a board i like, i'll paste it and ask for your/others opinions === MindandMetal is now known as MindofMetal-away [00:23] off hand question. is it possible to use say the remote receiver that comes with the Hauppauge usb remote receiver with an all in one remote? say through a custom lirc config or something? === MindofMetal-away is now known as mindofmetal [00:25] tgm4883: what do you think about this mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131046 [00:25] or anyone else that wants to comment [00:28] hansoffate, you might want to check the linux compatibility of that board. I seem to remember some problem with the P5L boards from asus [00:30] bored [00:30] bored bored bored [00:31] play in traffic [00:31] gets old fast [00:32] tgm4883: supposedly fedora 8 got installed without a problem on that board [00:33] sorry, check ubuntu compatibility [00:33] 945g ought to be fine [00:34] k, i think it will work, i'll stick with this board [00:34] http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-hpt4254/4507-6482_7-32399836.html?tag=specs - thats the tv i will be hooking up this box too [00:35] should i hook it up in the PC hookup or hook it up with a dvi -> hdmi to get the best resolution? [00:36] by pc hookup ... i mean VGA [00:36] gah, what is it with plasmas and silly resolutions [00:37] doesn't matter how you hook it up, i suspect. go with vga for least pain, IME [00:37] hmm [00:37] are you planning on doing HD? [00:39] tgm4883: now, i don't plan on recording HD, but i do plan to have HD Avi's that i would like to play through mythvideo and would like to display the best [00:39] tgm4883, TECHNICALLY that screen gets itself an "hd ready" sticker in .uk - technically [00:39] use hdmi [00:39] famicon, why? [00:39] easier [00:40] plus no hassle with audio cables [00:40] theory says that the only difference between hdmi and dvi is that hdmi passes audio along with the video [00:40] if you pump your sound out to an outside receiver, hdmi is a waste [00:40] is audio supported over hdmi in linux yet? [00:40] and you can allways hookup another pc tft in case you want to do some quick tweaks [00:40] famicon, easier how? it's a 1024x768 screen, most samsungs only allow proper HD resolutions via hdmi. so there's an extra layer of pointless scaling in there [00:41] and probably the need for modelines [00:41] huh [00:41] in that case dont buy that tv [00:41] it sucks [00:41] hahah too late [00:41] I like dvi myself, but that's based on the copy protection crap that they want to pass via hdmi [00:42] so i should get a video card w/ dvi and hook it up with a dvi->hdmi cable and run the audio with a 1/8" to RCA audio? [00:42] but then, I'm not sure I've got myself an HD picture here on my HDTV [00:43] that's what I would suggest. some mobo's are coming now with hdmi out on them as well though, save yourself a slot if it's an nvidia based chipset [00:43] mindframe-, DVI supports HDCP as well [00:43] well erhm [00:43] isnt hdcp mandatory for some media [00:43] mindofmetal, ^^ [00:43] not that i care [00:43] famicon, yes, if the disc demands it [00:43] they are trying to push it being maditory, and the new blu rays and such demand it. if you don't have it they'll only play at a lower resolution [00:43] good reason not to buy the disc [00:43] and just download it [00:44] hahah agreed [00:44] well advocating piracy is a bad thing [00:44] nah [00:44] piracy is great [00:44] but I'll advocate playing your owned media any way you choose to without them sitting there telling you what you can play it on and how [00:45] so ... does dvi->hdmi cable with 1/8" to rca audio sound ok? [00:45] especially when you get screwed over by the people who produce mediover stuff [00:45] and while bluray and HDDVD have it available, it's not forced [00:45] hah [00:45] so what, piracy is awesome [00:45] dvi to dvi input or through hdmi converted cable without 1/8th rca sounds good. but if you want to go one step further, go with optical into a receiver capable of decoding DTS and such [00:46] my reciever is shitty and is about 10 years old. [00:46] tgm4883 we are dealing with people who think its "OK" to charge people multiple times for the same content simply because its stored on a different media [00:47] my receiver kicks your arse, and famicon's arse, and mindofmetal's arse [00:47] it was expensive though :( [00:47] I don't know, I've got a pretty nice receiver [00:47] hexxington what receiver? [00:47] onkyo tx-sr605 [00:48] that is quite nice [00:48] Yamaha HTR-5960 is what I'm running [00:49] I dont have one [00:49] dont need it [00:50] i have too many games consoles and not enough connectors on my tv [00:50] mindofmetal, nice spec, retro connectivity [00:50] famicon, what they charge is not my area of interest. The current laws of your country are. The current policy on this channel and all other *buntu* channels is no talk of piracy. This will be the only warning. [00:51] tgm4883 in my country it is covered under fair use [00:52] famicon, downloading movies you don't own isn't fair use [00:52] famicon, that may be the case, but the policy of the channel is no talk. [00:52] oh dear [00:52] so lets talk about remotes :P [00:53] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127273 - is that video card good enough for my tv? it supports the resolution i need [00:53] hansoffate, yeah, fine [00:53] thanks [00:53] hansoffate, i use the same chipset in my myth machine [00:53] is it possible through a custom lirc config to use an all in one remote with a hauppauge usb remote receiver? [00:53] i dont see why not [00:54] damn, I just bought that graffics card 3 weeks ago for 70 dollars [00:54] mindofmetal, HOW? it's a £25 card! has been for about 18 months! [00:55] bah! maybe not the exact card, exact chipset, the 7300LE pcie card, but mines not a silent card, it has a fan, but I bought it from one of the local hardware bigstores (Fry's) [00:57] amp! http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/product_en_5710611.html [00:58] sweet got my full system built now - 491.92 after mail in and combo packages it should be around 450. [00:59] 500gb drive should be enough space for recordings .... right? my old one that got fried had only 250 and it was fine [01:00] depends how much recording you want to do! [01:00] it's 2gb/hour for most of my stuff [01:00] 500 should be fine, even for HD content [01:03] k, thanks for all the help on this build. Now time to trouble shoot my grandpa's mythtv system. I finally got almost everything working. The only thing I need to get is mythmusic. For some reason, it isn't able to add the mp3s in the network share. Even though mythvideo can add the avi/mpegs in the network share. [01:03] it's driving me crazy [01:04] nfs? === mindofmetal is now known as mindofmetal-away [01:04] samba - cifs [01:06] got his box shared like /Share/Musik (mp3s) and /Share/Video (avi/mpegs) mounted to /mnt/Share where the Musik and Video folders display. I can play the mp3s over the network with mplayer, but for some reason, mythmusic doesn't seem to find them [01:10] tgm4883: i am still having nvidia driver issues since rolling back to 9631. it seems to default back to the vesa driver [01:13] anyways, back to work on this, thanks for the help guys, if anyone has any ideas on what the issue may be, please let me know [01:16] hansoffate is the music on a upnp box? [01:17] universal plug and play box? i don't really understand what you are asking [01:18] if the music is on a device that is a media server that serves up the music via upnp it wont work until .21. Looking at your post it looks like you are using samba so I am guessing its a hard drive on another computer. So it doesnt seem to apply [01:19] did you set the permission properly on the folders === mindofmetal-away is now known as mindofmetal [01:32] ok, someone please throw me a bone for some guidance on my display. I have geforce 7300LE working on nvidia's restricted drivers (version 100.14.19) passing through DVI to my 42in plasma. some channels have tearing, no channels fit right on the screen despite the aspect ration change (W in mythtv watch tv) and over all, just not sure I'm getting the picture I should be. [01:33] mindofmetal you may have overscan unless your plasma does 1 to 1 pixel mapping [01:33] hrm, I'm not sure if my plasma does... ok, I should find that out [01:34] mindofmetal in setting tv playback you can adjust overscan. as for tearing you need to enable opengl vsync and then go into nvidia-settings and disable vsync and blitter [01:35] mindofmetal also run top from a terminal to make sure you are not pegging your processor and make sure you have "useevents" "true" in your xorg file [01:35] forgive me if I'm a newb (I am) but will opengl give me my hidef picture? I thought Xv was required for that. or are those not different? [01:37] xv is for a computer that has low processor power and wants to run hd if you have dualcore 3.3ghz and above you probably wont need it. Your card and monitor should have passed EDID information but you may want to check what modeline you are running. your plasma more than likely is 720p [01:39] how do I check the modeline? [01:39] check your xorg file [01:39] cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:44] ok, I see my monitor listed as a generic monitor, and has several modes available. I don't see it telling me what it's running at though. through the nvidia configuration utility it says it's at 1024x768, I have a acuire edid button that allows me to save a edid.bin file. do I need to merge that with my xorg.conf in some fashion? [01:45] tv is supposed to be able to do 1080i, and I can when I have my ATSC antena hooked up to it (I think) [01:47] ok i am not familiar with plasma that much but if the native resolution is 1080i that is what you want to force. you can do that by commenting out the 1024X768 and do 1920x1080i [01:50] I have an entry in my xorg.conf "nvidia-auto-select" should I comment that out as well to force the 1920? also, I have a mode listing for 1920x1080, but it doesn't have the "i". still the same thing? [01:53] yes that should be the way to go. Hey before you change anything make a backup of this xorg file. I would also suggest you go here and read first. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=84545 [01:54] mindofmetal please backup your xorg to xorg,old before you make changes [01:57] yes, that is a wise idea [01:58] testing [02:22] ok, well that was a mess. [02:25] ok, well trying to comment out resolutions didn't work out for me. [02:34] if I acquire the edid through the nvidia driver utiltiy, how do I point my xorg.conf to it? [02:34] or rather, have it included, or.... something. I'm not even sure if I'm making sense [04:07] howdy all...I have mythbuntu setup...i think...it keeps wanting to go to autoconfig on network and getting the wrong address. Anyways....I need to be able to login and run mythtv frontend as a window....how and where do I do this? [04:07] is it in the mythtv control center somewhere? [04:08] it's in setup, either the frontend or backend setup, can't remember which. but there is an option to run the frontend in a window [04:08] Okay...I will look again...thanks [04:10] ok, i'ts in the front end, setup, appearance, second screen gives the option to run in a window [04:39] anyone here actually set up the set top box motorolla DCT-2244? [04:43] or better question whats a good STB from comcast, and enables the firewire? [04:52] *sigh* [04:53] ok, not having any luck here at all getting my geforce 7300LE (connected via DVI) to 1080i on my 42" plasma [04:53] tried many different xorg.conf changes, nothing seems to be working out here [05:00] can you use xmltv in the US? Or do you have to go with schedulesdirect? [05:00] have to use SD [05:01] doh.... [05:01] really????? [05:02] I don't think he'd lie to you [05:03] darn..;) just checkin [05:03] that could be why my be is not workin [05:06] the fe keeps saying something about not being able to find the be....I know I have days like this, but this is software...shouldn't be doing that...the only step I skipped was the SD part b/c I don't have an account yet....I am doing that now.... How do I fix the BE now...? [05:11] i think i might ahve to get a new STB [05:12] maybe ill just get the motorola 6200 [05:12] i really need a new TV, definatly need HD TV soon [05:13] haven't used a set top box in forever myself. to many channels, still nothing to watch. [05:13] ah, but an HD tv, love mine. to bad I bought when prices were so much higher [05:13] i mostly watch normal cable, but i want to watch some G4 and HBO [05:14] I'm lucky really, the only channel outside of what I can grab off air (ATSC) that I want to watch is the discovery channel. and that comes in my basic cable package [05:15] i watch a lot of basic cable [05:15] although it would be nice to have the extra science, discovery, and history channels [05:15] USA, Spike, Cartoon Network [05:15] but i watch a few digital cable channels [05:16] if I had them, I'd probably find things to watch. hence why I don't have them [05:16] haha [05:16] I'm about to through my #*&!!# tv out the window right now [05:17] throw? [05:18] throw, yes [05:18] lol [05:18] forgive me, mindofmetal is a bit rusty and frustrated tonight. [05:18] can't even type clearly [05:18] lol [05:18] testing [05:22] *cuss* [05:22] you can't cuss more than this show im watching now [05:22] I can cuss to make a sailor blush. [05:23] I've had people tell me to "keep it down man, there are mechanics around" [05:23] ever see the documentary aristocrats? [05:23] no, haven't seen it [05:23] haha, just watch it to see how much cussing goes on [05:24] perhaps someday [05:24] i hate documentaries [05:24] but this one keeps my interest [05:25] its all based around a joke called the aristocrats [05:25] which is said to be the "dirtiest joke ever!" [05:25] one time show or a series? [05:25] its a documentary movie [05:25] only one [05:25] gotcha [05:25] I'll have to check it out [05:29] the aristocrats? with the comedians and such? released in 2005ish? k, just put it on my netflix queue [05:29] yeah [05:29] thats where i first saw it, netflix [05:33] superm1: you around? [05:34] sure [05:35] you just like to hide [05:36] ok, can i record a HD channel through a motorola 6200 Firewire port, and watch on SD TV? [05:39] from the same cable box? [05:40] superm1 any idea where I would start digging to figure out why I can't get my box to show 1080i on my HDTV? and how to fix/force the issue [05:40] ? [05:41] mindofmetal, turn up verbosity on your X log [05:41] and look at it [05:41] it tells you why it didn't like the EDID [05:42] so, verbosity of maybe level 6? [05:43] and, where do I change that? [05:45] change it in the /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf [05:45] howdy all! [05:45] thanks superm1, howdy tubetop [05:46] I apparently completely dorked my BE...is there a way to go back to setit up again? [05:47] the FE cant apparently connect to BE and it is probably b/c I didnt have SchedulesDirect account yet... :) [05:47] launch mythtv-setup [05:47] to set it up again [05:47] don't think it's that tubetop, I don't have a schedulesdirect account and mine can't talk and play together [05:48] from terminal or gui? [05:48] doesnt matter [05:55] no superm1 i want to get a 6200 STB and plug it in with firwire into my mythbox, and output from my mythbox to my SDTV [05:56] yeah that should work fine [05:56] ok, I'm just not seeing the option to increase the verbosity in that gdm-cdd.conf file. do I have to add a line? [05:56] you add a command line option to it [05:56] i dont know off hand what it is [06:01] okay;....when setting up the SA4250HDC firewire how do I know which port or node? [06:02] it defaults to 1294 port 0 and Node:2 [06:03] whats the difference between connection type point to point and broadcast, in this situation? [06:05] i dont think the firewire is working.....I'll have to wait until I get the 3250HD tomorrow I guess....How do I finish the setup now? [06:06] I am at the mythbuntu main mythtv-setup screen with 1-5 listed....how do I exit and continue the process? [06:12] i don't want to loose these settings and I want the BE to be happy [06:13] hit esc [06:13] to quit [06:13] brb myself [06:13] yes...it is filling the db...thanks [06:17] i think its in an infinite loop [06:19] nope...it is getting different info each time....sorry [09:07] I cant vnc to to work at all [09:09] what process should be running with vnc4server? [09:11] mythbuntu says the service is enabled...but I cant find the ps? [09:11] maybe if i restart? [12:42] sdf [12:51] superm1: sorry, havnt had time to check on the codes for the imon pad yet. However, I'm getting some lag whenever I press the remote. Guessing the USB is sharing IRQ or something. Anyway, I'll check back after xmas. Happy Xmas everybody, and keep up the good work! [17:52] howdy all!!! [17:52] howdy yall!!!! [17:54] my BE keeps crashing and the FE complains if IP is setup right....doesnt seem to be starting on restart....any ideas on where to start hunting? [17:58] how do I tell if the backend is running? [18:00] what is console-kit-dae process? [18:01] not sure what that is, but you can check the logs in /var/log/mythtv [18:02] if i ps -lA i have like 5 mythfrontend.re.....is that normal? [18:03] only see one on mine, so don't think so [18:03] i'm not watching tv or anything now, tho, so dunno if more get started up then [18:04] how do i run the setup again for the be...I found the problem [18:04] just remoted into it now for IRC :) [18:04] lol...thanks for the help...I am such a noooooooooob with this systme.....it seems so magical right now and I hate that feeling [18:04] from the CLI, i'm not sure. you can get to it from the MCC [18:05] mythtv-setup I think [18:05] it requires x though [18:07] thanks.....found the problem...I moved the recordings folder out from under its nose.....LOL oops [18:07] it didnt like that ;) [18:07] ahh yeah, i've done that one [18:08] javatexan: if you have mythweb setup you can often adjust things like that in there too [18:08] gotta be careful though as there is no verification [18:09] its a savior when you break things while you are at work [18:09] ok...thanks....didnt know that ... thanks. I haven't tried the web interface yet [18:09] don't think you can adjust folder locations over mythweb, can you? [18:09] still toooooooooo noooooooooooobish [18:10] hrm... can't get to mythweb myself now for some reason [18:10] pdragon: there is a settings section [18:10] where you can modify pretty much anything [18:12] guess i never really looked hard there. just remember going there and seeing settings, but not modifying them [18:12] now i have to wait til i get home to figure out why i can't get to it :/ [18:12] i think I am going to restart the box. I don't know why all these processes are running.....I have been pretty hard on it lately. It wont be able to connect to STB though...I hope that doesnt make it too mad [18:13] lol...i know the feeling [18:13] should I exit myth before I shutdown or restart or is it okay with getting shutdown from system? [18:14] I normally don't [18:14] k...just checkin....you never know [18:15] I would recommend enabling the mysql daily optimization though [18:15] its on the last tab of MCC IIRC [18:15] k...i think i did set that [18:23] so if I plop a .avi or a mpeg file into ...../mythtv/recordings.... what would happen? Would that add it to my library or should i plop them in /mythtv/videos??? [18:23] nothing would happen [18:23] it just sits there [18:24] you can plop them into the videos directory [18:24] and scan that with the video manager [18:24] or you can plop them into recordings then create db entries for them [18:24] there is a script to do that, let me check [18:24] okay...ill try...my damn cable box's FIREWIRE is off, so I am dying to try SOMETHING!!!!! [18:24] thanks for looking [18:25] the easiest thing is dropping it in the videos folder than going to the Setup Video Manager to scan it in [18:25] that's what i do [18:25] !orphan [18:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about orphan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [18:25] !orphaned [18:26] Sorry, I don't know anything about orphaned - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [18:28] If your backup was out of date, you may have orphaned videos in your myth/tv folder. To make these videos available for viewing you'll need to download the source distribution of mythtv and run myth.rebuilddatabase.pl --dbhost=localhost, which is located in the contrib directory. This adds the missing videos to the database. You'll be prompted to enter names for the orphaned videos. [18:28] /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib [18:28] is where thats located it [18:30] cool....not sure I can handle source distribution right now ;) I barely got mythbuntu up and running....naw...just kidding.... Sure...I love doing opensource dev how do i set it up? Is there a pretty good website to follow? [18:31] nah, its just a script sitting there [18:31] all you need to do is run it [18:31] k [18:31] mythvideo may be easier from a UI standpoint though [18:31] try both and see what you think [18:32] I prefer to not have things in mythvideo, but to each his own [18:36] how do i find out the current version of my mythtv installation? [18:36] not sure which svn trunk to get ;) [18:36] wait wait [18:36] what are you doing? [18:36] that should exist on your system already [18:36] contrib comes with the backend [18:37] oh....okay...sorry.... [18:37] LOL [18:37] LMAO [18:37] sorry, should read what I pasted from another site [18:37] said words about downloading in there, didn't realize it [18:37] np....I am gullable this morning....not enough sleep... ;P [18:38] can avis live in recordings or do they have to be mpeg2 or mpeg4? [18:39] mpeg2 and/or mpeg4 ...sorry [18:41] should be ok [18:41] Hey all, does anyone have any idea why scan displacement doesn't seem to be working for me? I'm using a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-USB2. [18:41] as you can transcode your recordings to xvid [18:48] man vnc is not perfect...kind of slow [18:52] I prefer nx myself === oobe is now known as debian === debian is now known as mandrake === mandrake is now known as pibbledibble === pibbledibble is now known as pibblydibbly === pibblydibbly is now known as oobe [20:29] rhpot1991: I am trying the script now...but I get: Can't locate Date/Parse.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /us [20:29] r/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at myth.rebuilddatabase.pl line 54. [20:29] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at myth.rebuilddatabase.pl line 54. [20:31] try to 'sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv' [20:31] is it a CPAN addition [20:31] you can prob get it on apt, see if that works [20:31] k...brb [20:32] wow....92 to install.... [20:33] you can try doing mythtv-backend instead of mythtv, but eh [20:33] or you can pick out pm' [20:33] np...got 300GB on that HD... [20:33] pm's by hand if you are worried about it [20:34] I wanted to get to the point of doing dev on mythtv anyways....I miss writing "real" software [20:34] been a professor tooooooooo long.... ;) [20:34] !hi [20:34] Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv! [20:35] I would think being a professor would let you have some time to work on side projects during your office hours [20:35] I guess it all depends on the college [20:36] yeah...we actually take up and grade homework and programs...so that takes more time.... [20:36] usually that would be true tho [20:36] I knew some professors who had students helping out teaching classes and doing some of that work [20:37] we've gotten really big on the research thing, so no one does what they couldn't get a paper out of [20:37] yeah...we don't do that yet...we still dont have a phd...we have a really strong MS program tho [20:40] i worked on n tiered systems in industry for 10 years....i am pining to get back to some real code....over the summer to help ease the pining...I wrote a cheezy game for the Half-life2 engine...It was ugly, but it gave me a chance to drill down into a nontrivial system [20:41] naw...i should really get a summer gig for this summer... I just hate to look ;) [20:42] the money would be nice...:) [20:43] could prob look for some freelance job that doesn't tie you to anything [20:43] 2nd jobs suck though [20:44] i know...i did 2 jobs the first 2.5 years I was here.....good way to have a meltdown...LOL I really need something laid back. LOL as if you can find that... ;) [20:45] can you find Date/Parse.pm for me on your system...? [20:45] prolly a include path problem [20:46] that didn't fix it? [20:46] try 'sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv-backend' too [20:46] see if that has any others [20:46] it won't [20:46] mythtv and mythtv-backend come from the same source package [20:46] same error....now my myth.rebuilddatabase.pl was actually in a myth.rebuilddatabase.pl.gz...I gunziped it...maybe it was supposed to be in there? [20:46] build-dep resolves binary package names to the source package name [20:47] no, its supposed to be extracted [20:48] hmmmm i don't see a Date folder [20:49] this is the line that dies : use Date::Parse; [20:50] looks like a pretty normal perly kind of use.....something else is wrong.....maybe I don't have perl setup right....I installed mythbuntu, and the ubuntu desktop. Maybe I should reinstall perl? [20:50] shouldn't need to [20:50] okay [20:51] its just a missing pm, though apt isn't helping me locate which package to install [20:53] found it in CPAN [20:54] Graham Barr > TimeDate-1.16 [20:54] is that the right one [20:54] i just love google [20:54] libdate-manip-perl [20:54] try that one [20:54] sudo apt-get install libdate-manip-perl [20:55] ya I found that on cpan, but its easier to install on apt if its there IMO [20:55] already there [20:55] items in contrib are NOT covered by build-dep [20:56] and you want/need libtimedate-perl [20:56] I think its libdatetime-perl [20:56] do i have to set the path myself? [20:57] not timddate [20:57] you shouldn't need to [20:57] no worky [20:58] actually there is a libtimedate and a libdatetime [20:58] my bad [20:58] you tried libtimedate-perl? [20:58] that should be the cpan module [21:00] hold on [21:02] that didn't work either. [21:03] still erroring on the same line? [21:04] run 'locate Parse.pm' [21:04] I have a /usr/share/perl5/Date/Parse.pm [21:05] thats it [21:05] does yours have it? [21:06] i get /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Parse.pm [21:06]