| owh | Figured out why the examples don't all work, /bin/sh is symlinked to dash which doesn't support the bash extension 'source'. That helps :) | 00:21 |
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| nealmcb | owh: the gui direction for hardy and beyond is ebox - web-based | 00:35 |
| owh | Yikes | 00:36 |
| owh | I suppose it allows for remote admin. | 00:36 |
| owh | Hmm, it means that I'm going to have to rethink my setup though. | 00:37 |
| owh | Thanks nealmcb. | 00:37 |
| nealmcb | and avoids the huge security, support and bloat issues with x11 etc | 00:37 |
| owh | Fair enough. | 00:37 |
| dantalizing | is btmp/lastb disabled somehow on server? | 00:37 |
| owh | At this point I've been working along different lines, that is, hardware is so powerful these days, running an idle GUI isn't really an issue. | 00:38 |
| nealmcb | owh: I assume you've seen gadmintools etc? | 00:38 |
| owh | Yeah, I liked the notion of the dhcp admin tool, right until I actually had to use it. Then I nearly threw up. | 00:38 |
| owh | Talk about an abomination in user interface interaction :( | 00:39 |
| nealmcb | owh: also, no need to constrain servers to be hot desktop-capable machines.... | 00:39 |
| nealmcb | I haven't tried it - just noticed it | 00:39 |
| owh | Yeah, that's fair enough, though low end servers while required and useful are the least of my problems :) | 00:40 |
| nealmcb | most servers in the world are tiny boxes after all - like routers that already do web-based admin | 00:40 |
| owh | I was trying to cobble together a GUI for the ubuntu-jeos-build script for a system administrator. | 00:41 |
| owh | Yeah, don't you just love the web-based admin tools :) | 00:41 |
| nealmcb | so jump in and connect with the upstream ebox folks - we could use the help! | 00:41 |
| owh | I'll give it a look :) | 00:42 |
| owh | 'm assuming you're one of those? | 00:42 |
| nealmcb | :) | 00:42 |
| nealmcb | nope | 00:42 |
| nealmcb | have enough on my plate as it is! | 00:43 |
| owh | ROTFL, don't we all? | 00:43 |
| nealmcb | we == server team | 00:43 |
| nealmcb | yeah - but it is great to share the burden with others who have similar goals :-) | 00:43 |
| owh | Sure is, now if only I had enough hours in the day to achieve all that I wanted to, wouldn't that be grand :) | 00:44 |
| owh | ebox is looking pretty nice I must confess. | 00:47 |
| owh | Not sure if I really want to install it onto each jeos vm though. It seems I may have no choice. | 00:54 |
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| ScottK | nealmcb: I hope you meant that reply to go to the list ... | 01:57 |
| nealmcb | ScottK: oops - yup - thanks | 03:29 |
| stiv2k | hey | 04:09 |
| stiv2k | does anyone know of a good guide / howto for setting up an OpenVPN server? I have NO experience with VPN whatsoever.... | 04:10 |
| stiv2k | i basically just want to be able to access my music shares on my server from anywhere in the world and someone told me OpenVPN can do that.... | 04:10 |
| antdedyet | soren: missed kvm 56 and got kvm 57, had to manually move /usr/src/modules/kvm out of the way before that package extracted properly though | 04:20 |
| antdedyet | about to test more ... | 04:20 |
| antdedyet | soren: er, before that package extracted properly = before m-a would build the new source, possibly --force would have helped here. | 04:30 |
| * nealmcb finishes reading the meeting transcript from this morning | 04:43 | |
| nealmcb | looks good. sorry to miss you all | 04:43 |
| * lamont struggles to understand why gutsy/ia64 doesn't configure raid-root devices | 04:59 | |
| lamont | other than the fact that the initramfs hooks all got ripped out | 04:59 |
| lamont | which seems to point at udev not getting events for stuff or some such | 05:00 |
| lamont | hrm... maybe having raid modules in the initramfs would help | 05:01 |
| rodpod | why is the path for update-grub changing | 05:11 |
| rodpod | whats the point.. | 05:12 |
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| stiv2k | anyone here??? | 05:36 |
| nealmcb | !ask | 05:48 |
| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 05:48 |
| nealmcb | stiv2k: ^ | 05:49 |
| stiv2k | ah yes | 06:02 |
| stiv2k | nealmcb: i'm well aware of that rule... though i've always contested that there's no use in asking a question when nobody's around to answer it ;) | 06:03 |
| stiv2k | nealmcb: do you have any experience / knowledge of OpenVPN ? | 06:03 |
| stiv2k | oh yes | 06:06 |
| stiv2k | nealmcb: also, if you'll scroll up, you'll notice that I actually did ask my question earlier, instead of asking to ask :) | 06:06 |
| nealmcb | stiv2k: the problem is, without context, there isn't any basis for people to offer to help. I now see your query above, but forgot that you were the one that asked it. and I don't have an answer. bother. | 06:17 |
| stiv2k | nealmcb: hehe how about this one (although unrelated to this channel), have you ever seen or used a Mac Book Pro ? | 06:18 |
| nealmcb | nope | 06:18 |
| stiv2k | my cousin has one and its sitting here on the coffee table | 06:18 |
| stiv2k | i'm quite confused because I can't seem to find a CD drive on the thing | 06:19 |
| stiv2k | furthermore it doesn't seem to hav _any_ ventilation / cooling fans | 06:19 |
| stiv2k | is that unusual for a notebook or what? | 06:19 |
| nealmcb | this isn't a good channel to find laptop insights.... | 06:19 |
| stiv2k | yeah it just popped into my head | 06:20 |
| stiv2k | does freenode have some sort of #mac channel or something | 06:20 |
| nealmcb | Seriously good guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html || Guide on asking questions that get answered: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 06:21 |
| nealmcb | really - they'll help you get great answers :-) | 06:21 |
| stiv2k | right. | 06:23 |
| stiv2k | maybe after i have a cigarette... | 06:23 |
| * stiv2k is fiending | 06:23 | |
| kraut | moin | 07:36 |
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| Ahmuck | hi, why does ubuntu jeos need reiserfs programs? | 10:19 |
| Ahmuck | or ppp? | 10:19 |
| `6og | because | 10:25 |
| _ruben | hmm .. the limited (debian) docs shipped with openswan-modules-source package contains not-working desciptions on how to build a klips kernel module :( | 10:42 |
| _ruben | guess i'll try the alternative road: recompile kernel with klips support, would involve nat-t support as 'free' bonus | 10:43 |
| _ruben | grr .. that aint working either .. time for lunch | 11:07 |
| antdedyet | _ruben: is it something you could use openvpn for instead? | 11:15 |
| * antdedyet hasn't use S/WAN since FreeS/WAN | 11:20 | |
| _ruben | antdedyet: we use openvpn for roadwarriors and openswan for site-to-site currently (on suse) | 11:42 |
| _ruben | i havent used make-kpkg in years so i have no idea what might be causing this: http://pastebin.ca/823456 | 11:44 |
| antdedyet | _ruben: you might try running make-kpkg with --config menuconfig and then saving the config on exit without changing any config options, but that's purely a guess as I've never had problems running make-kpkg that way instead of with the default config target (--config oldconfig is implied according to the man page) | 11:54 |
| _ruben | antdedyet: same thing :( | 12:01 |
| _ruben | now it does work .. i think .. odd | 12:03 |
| antdedyet | _ruben: ah. :) | 12:06 |
| _ruben | compiling kernel under vmware .. see you next week :p | 12:06 |
| _ruben | just curious .. why is there a linux-patch-openswan package to build your own klips-enabled kernel, but no precompiled klips-enabled kernel? | 12:41 |
| _ruben | bah .. kernel build bailed out with an error | 13:21 |
| Bounce | hi all | 14:45 |
| Bounce | does someone know something about nic bonding ? | 14:46 |
| _ruben | a little | 14:47 |
| Bounce | Hi Ruben | 14:47 |
| _ruben | dont have much experience with it, yet, but do have a few boxes use it | 14:49 |
| _ruben | not on ubuntu (yet), though | 14:49 |
| Bounce | do you use ubuntu gutsy with it ? | 14:49 |
| Bounce | which OS do you use ? | 14:50 |
| _ruben | what is your actual problem/question? it might not be ubuntu specific | 14:50 |
| _ruben | windows and suse | 14:50 |
| Bounce | ok | 14:50 |
| Bounce | my win2k3 server it works fine | 14:50 |
| Bounce | but i've got also 1x openfiler san | 14:51 |
| Bounce | and a ubuntu vmware server | 14:51 |
| Bounce | running on gutsy amd64 | 14:51 |
| Bounce | both are HP proliants with 2 nics | 14:52 |
| Bounce | the problems i found a link for arrgeration | 14:52 |
| Bounce | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinkAggregation | 14:52 |
| Bounce | but I cannot the modutils | 14:53 |
| Bounce | the link/document says that I have to modifie the document /etc/modutils/actions | 14:53 |
| Bounce | but it doesn't exists in gutsy server AMD64 | 14:54 |
| Bounce | I've tried to install the modutils, but I cannot install it. | 14:55 |
| _ruben | lets check on x86 (playing with 2 vmware instances of it now) | 14:55 |
| Bounce | it's driving me insain | 14:55 |
| Bounce | :-( | 14:56 |
| _ruben | not present here either | 14:56 |
| KyleS-work | I have a question regarding Ubuntu server...is it any good? | 14:56 |
| _ruben | KyleS-work: is what any good? | 14:57 |
| KyleS-work | Ubuntu Server | 14:57 |
| KyleS-work | I was thinking about installing it, but I wasn't sure how well it performed | 14:57 |
| _ruben | Bounce: im guessing you tried skipping that step? | 14:57 |
| _ruben | KyleS-work: i doubt you'd find any negative answers here .. im only experimenting with it yet (planning on migrating from suse to ubuntu), and im rather fond of it so far | 14:57 |
| KyleS-work | ah | 14:58 |
| Bounce | I use it here in production | 14:58 |
| KyleS-work | I use Ubuntu Desktop, and Debian server right now on my older computer | 14:58 |
| KyleS-work | but I'm getting a new server in the mail soon | 14:58 |
| Bounce | my vmware servers are ubuntu server amd64 | 14:58 |
| KyleS-work | And I was thinking of migrating to Ubuntu as it's more updated | 14:58 |
| Bounce | I had no choice | 14:58 |
| KyleS-work | Why's that? | 14:59 |
| Bounce | I wanted VMware infrastructure | 14:59 |
| Bounce | but for now it's to expensice | 14:59 |
| Bounce | so I build it on ubuntu (with amd64 support)( | 14:59 |
| KyleS-work | ah | 14:59 |
| Bounce | :-P | 14:59 |
| Bounce | works very good | 15:00 |
| KyleS-work | I'll try it then :P | 15:00 |
| Bounce | got 7 production machines on one vmware server | 15:00 |
| Bounce | :-P | 15:00 |
| KyleS-work | I was debating between Gentoo, Cent OS and Ubuntu Server | 15:00 |
| Bounce | true | 15:00 |
| Bounce | me to | 15:00 |
| Bounce | openfiler is based on Cent OS | 15:00 |
| Bounce | I use it as my test san | 15:01 |
| Bounce | my only problem is to speed up | 15:01 |
| Bounce | I have to go for now | 15:01 |
| Bounce | my wife (and my sons) are waiting | 15:01 |
| Bounce | see u tonight | 15:01 |
| Bounce | bye | 15:01 |
| dantalizing | if anyone is awake, i have a raid question | 15:23 |
| dantalizing | i uploaded a dapper server to feisty, and went through the raid verification process | 15:24 |
| dantalizing | but mkconf gives me different UIDs from what is in my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf | 15:24 |
| dantalizing | mdrun works fine with my existing UIDs | 15:25 |
| _ruben | i always mdadm to work with my raid confings | 15:25 |
| _ruben | +use | 15:25 |
| dantalizing | the verification process suggests using mkconf to verify existing settings, but doesnt suggest what to do if they differ :( | 15:26 |
| _ruben | never used those commands, so cant really help out here | 15:26 |
| dantalizing | this is a data partition, so not that big of a deal, but just wondering if i should not trust mkconf, or if its possible mdrun is working _in spite_ of my existing settings | 15:26 |
| _ruben | is there a way to recreate /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf? if so i'd just make backup of that file, and recreate it | 15:27 |
| _ruben | maybe even run a diff on those to see if there might be any obvious discrepencies | 15:27 |
| dantalizing | well my current mdadm.conf is hand made, so doesnt have all the comments...but the big thing is the disk UIDs are different | 15:28 |
| dantalizing | i can make a backup and try | 15:28 |
| dantalizing | but mainly wondering why mkconf is telling me something different from what is currently working | 15:29 |
| _ruben | different as in completely different, or just in a diff order? | 15:30 |
| dantalizing | differnt uids | 15:31 |
| _ruben | odd | 15:31 |
| dantalizing | generated by mkconf: ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 UUID=5d418565:6b3cb3b3:459da527:187157b7 | 15:31 |
| dantalizing | exisiting in my mdadm.conf: ARRAY /dev/.static/dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 UUID=5d418565:6b3cb3b3:7559ceb6:c7f89e22 | 15:31 |
| _ruben | 2 are identical .. 2 differ .. very odd | 15:32 |
| dantalizing | never noticed the .static until i just pasted it | 15:32 |
| _ruben | the only thing i can think of (and i know its rather far-fetched) is that there's some hashing algo involved which changed slightly | 15:33 |
| _ruben | or smth in the drivers | 15:33 |
| _ruben | either way, its a strange problem | 15:33 |
| rgl | hi | 16:55 |
| rgl | for some reason my server rebooted itself, and now the raid1 software is in this weird state: md3 : inactive sda7[0](S) you guys known how to fix this? | 16:56 |
| rgl | it should have two partitions, sda7 and sdb7, but for some reason only one is in there :/ | 16:56 |
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| martin___ | Hi. Does anyone know a 3rd part yrepository offering a threaded version of apache with php5 or more precisely, offering a php5 version that does not depend on the prefork mpm? | 17:55 |
| === martin___ is now known as pisi | ||
| pisi | I'm about to compile php by hand but I'd like to apt-get install instead. | 17:57 |
| ScottK | leonel: Debian just released a security update for Etch that may help you finding patches for Feisty/Gutsy. | 18:07 |
| leonel | ScottK: according to the changelogs we are up to date with feisty and gutsy | 18:13 |
| leonel | ScottK2: according to the changelogs we are up to date with feisty and gutsy | 18:32 |
| ScottK2 | leonel: You looked at http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.1-3etch8.dsc | 18:34 |
| ScottK2 | It may be we are up to date, but I want to make sure... | 18:34 |
| leonel | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=clamav&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all <-- just this no etch8 | 18:36 |
| ScottK2 | Etch8 was just release. Get that package and check there. | 18:39 |
| ScottK2 | dget http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.1-3etch8.dsc should do it. | 18:39 |
| === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK | ||
| leonel | wow dget ... nice .. | 18:40 |
| Ahmuck | hi. it appeared that ubuntu-server jeos found my nic and configured dhcp, however upon reboot, not eth* is listed | 18:50 |
| Ahmuck | what should i do? | 18:50 |
| ivoks | check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 18:50 |
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| Ahmuck | drivers ?* | 18:56 |
| Ahmuck | is that the problem? | 18:56 |
| Ahmuck | iirc, it started the nic with pc card services | 18:56 |
| ivoks | did you check the file i told you? | 18:57 |
| ivoks | it should have mac address followed by the name of interface | 18:57 |
| ivoks | something like this: | 18:57 |
| ivoks | SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:0e:7b:4d:54:e6", NAME="eth0" | 18:58 |
| Ahmuck | yes, it says that exactly with the exception of the address | 19:00 |
| leonel | ScottK: CVE-2007-6336 and CVE-2007-6335 need patch for gutsy .. patching .. after I'll chek feisty | 19:00 |
| ubotu | ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6336) | 19:00 |
| ubotu | ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6335) | 19:01 |
| ivoks | Ahmuck: is the mac address correct? | 19:01 |
| Ahmuck | could it be because of the "virtual kernel" jeos uses? | 19:01 |
| Ahmuck | let me check | 19:01 |
| Ahmuck | 00:50:04:d7:22:df | 19:02 |
| ScottK | leonel: Great. | 19:02 |
| ivoks | i never used jeos | 19:03 |
| Ahmuck | 3c905x | 19:03 |
| Ahmuck | hrm | 19:03 |
| Ahmuck | k, NAME= should be NAME== ? | 19:04 |
| Ahmuck | looking at yours, mine is identical with the exception of the mac address | 19:05 |
| CarlFK | where is the u-server version of http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ | 19:49 |
| CarlFK | I am trying to find where I can wget the installer kernel/initrd | 19:50 |
| Bounce | hi all | 21:30 |
| somerville32 | Hi | 21:31 |
| Bounce | all ubuntu admins are here ? | 21:33 |
| somerville32 | Bounce, What do you mean by Ubuntu Admins? :) | 21:35 |
| Bounce | I having a little problem with networkbonding | 21:36 |
| Bounce | I hope someone could help me | 21:36 |
| Bounce | I am an win admin | 21:37 |
| macd | Bounce, just ask your question, someone who knows will answer. | 21:37 |
| Bounce | and I started with ubuntu in my production environment, everything works fine online the nic bonding | 21:38 |
| Bjor1 | Hey guys, Im using the Ubuntu-desktop version. And I installed Oracle 11g using the http://www.dizwell.com/prod/node/929 guide. However I have no clue how to start it. Could anyone help me with that? | 22:58 |
| ikonia | Bjor1: Oracle is not supported on ubuntu by either Oracle or Ubuntu | 22:59 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, One second. | 23:00 |
| Bjor1 | ikonia, well obv people got it running so why cant I ask other USERS. | 23:00 |
| ikonia | who has it running ? | 23:00 |
| Bjor1 | http://www.supinfo-projects.com/en/2006/oracle_on_ubuntu/ this guy for example | 23:01 |
| ikonia | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622087 | 23:01 |
| ikonia | it's not supported | 23:01 |
| ikonia | there are some issues | 23:01 |
| Bjor1 | really weird sinds debian is supported :o | 23:02 |
| Bjor1 | *since | 23:02 |
| ikonia | where does it say debian is supported ? | 23:03 |
| ikonia | I know there is a package in a debian repo | 23:03 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, By the sounds of the tutorial you followed, Oracle should have started after installation | 23:04 |
| ikonia | there are some incompatabilities between ubuntu and oracle 10 and 11 | 23:05 |
| ikonia | more so with some of the "G" functionalities | 23:05 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, Is there any reason you want to use Oracle anyhow? | 23:05 |
| Bjor1 | somerville32, yes I need it badly for my education "software engineering", and I can run all my tools needed on Linux but oracle db software isn't working. | 23:09 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, You need Oracle for a course? You might want to consider using it on a support platform then so you don't get inconsistencies that might affect your mark or something? ;] | 23:10 |
| Bjor1 | haha | 23:10 |
| ikonia | surly not what I said in the first place | 23:10 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, However, the tutorial says you should just be able to use good ol' SQL*Plus after installation | 23:10 |
| somerville32 | Bjor1, Have you tried that? | 23:10 |
| Bjor1 | not yet | 23:12 |
| Bjor1 | but im in contact, with the writer of the guide | 23:12 |
| Bjor1 | otherwise iĺl install a v.small extra linux distro or use windows. | 23:13 |
| Bjor1 | Need to use it for crapsis, to finish a other project anyway | 23:13 |
| Bjor1 | crapsis = acces ;) | 23:13 |
| somerville32 | :) | 23:17 |
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