[00:21] Figured out why the examples don't all work, /bin/sh is symlinked to dash which doesn't support the bash extension 'source'. That helps :) [00:35] owh: the gui direction for hardy and beyond is ebox - web-based [00:36] Yikes [00:36] I suppose it allows for remote admin. [00:37] Hmm, it means that I'm going to have to rethink my setup though. [00:37] Thanks nealmcb. [00:37] and avoids the huge security, support and bloat issues with x11 etc [00:37] Fair enough. [00:37] is btmp/lastb disabled somehow on server? [00:38] At this point I've been working along different lines, that is, hardware is so powerful these days, running an idle GUI isn't really an issue. [00:38] owh: I assume you've seen gadmintools etc? [00:38] Yeah, I liked the notion of the dhcp admin tool, right until I actually had to use it. Then I nearly threw up. [00:39] Talk about an abomination in user interface interaction :( [00:39] owh: also, no need to constrain servers to be hot desktop-capable machines.... [00:39] I haven't tried it - just noticed it [00:40] Yeah, that's fair enough, though low end servers while required and useful are the least of my problems :) [00:40] most servers in the world are tiny boxes after all - like routers that already do web-based admin [00:41] I was trying to cobble together a GUI for the ubuntu-jeos-build script for a system administrator. [00:41] Yeah, don't you just love the web-based admin tools :) [00:41] so jump in and connect with the upstream ebox folks - we could use the help! [00:42] I'll give it a look :) [00:42] 'm assuming you're one of those? [00:42] :) [00:42] nope [00:43] have enough on my plate as it is! [00:43] ROTFL, don't we all? [00:43] we == server team [00:43] yeah - but it is great to share the burden with others who have similar goals :-) [00:44] Sure is, now if only I had enough hours in the day to achieve all that I wanted to, wouldn't that be grand :) [00:47] ebox is looking pretty nice I must confess. [00:54] Not sure if I really want to install it onto each jeos vm though. It seems I may have no choice. === joerlend__ is now known as XiXaQ [01:57] nealmcb: I hope you meant that reply to go to the list ... [03:29] ScottK: oops - yup - thanks [04:09] hey [04:10] does anyone know of a good guide / howto for setting up an OpenVPN server? I have NO experience with VPN whatsoever.... [04:10] i basically just want to be able to access my music shares on my server from anywhere in the world and someone told me OpenVPN can do that.... [04:20] soren: missed kvm 56 and got kvm 57, had to manually move /usr/src/modules/kvm out of the way before that package extracted properly though [04:20] about to test more ... [04:30] soren: er, before that package extracted properly = before m-a would build the new source, possibly --force would have helped here. [04:43] * nealmcb finishes reading the meeting transcript from this morning [04:43] looks good. sorry to miss you all [04:59] * lamont struggles to understand why gutsy/ia64 doesn't configure raid-root devices [04:59] other than the fact that the initramfs hooks all got ripped out [05:00] which seems to point at udev not getting events for stuff or some such [05:01] hrm... maybe having raid modules in the initramfs would help [05:11] why is the path for update-grub changing [05:12] whats the point.. === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [05:36] anyone here??? [05:48] !ask [05:48] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [05:49] stiv2k: ^ [06:02] ah yes [06:03] nealmcb: i'm well aware of that rule... though i've always contested that there's no use in asking a question when nobody's around to answer it ;) [06:03] nealmcb: do you have any experience / knowledge of OpenVPN ? [06:06] oh yes [06:06] nealmcb: also, if you'll scroll up, you'll notice that I actually did ask my question earlier, instead of asking to ask :) [06:17] stiv2k: the problem is, without context, there isn't any basis for people to offer to help. I now see your query above, but forgot that you were the one that asked it. and I don't have an answer. bother. [06:18] nealmcb: hehe how about this one (although unrelated to this channel), have you ever seen or used a Mac Book Pro ? [06:18] nope [06:18] my cousin has one and its sitting here on the coffee table [06:19] i'm quite confused because I can't seem to find a CD drive on the thing [06:19] furthermore it doesn't seem to hav _any_ ventilation / cooling fans [06:19] is that unusual for a notebook or what? [06:19] this isn't a good channel to find laptop insights.... [06:20] yeah it just popped into my head [06:20] does freenode have some sort of #mac channel or something [06:21] Seriously good guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html || Guide on asking questions that get answered: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [06:21] really - they'll help you get great answers :-) [06:23] right. [06:23] maybe after i have a cigarette... [06:23] * stiv2k is fiending [07:36] moin === joerlend__ is now known as XiXaQ [10:19] hi, why does ubuntu jeos need reiserfs programs? [10:19] or ppp? [10:25] <`6og> because [10:42] <_ruben> hmm .. the limited (debian) docs shipped with openswan-modules-source package contains not-working desciptions on how to build a klips kernel module :( [10:43] <_ruben> guess i'll try the alternative road: recompile kernel with klips support, would involve nat-t support as 'free' bonus [11:07] <_ruben> grr .. that aint working either .. time for lunch [11:15] _ruben: is it something you could use openvpn for instead? [11:20] * antdedyet hasn't use S/WAN since FreeS/WAN [11:42] <_ruben> antdedyet: we use openvpn for roadwarriors and openswan for site-to-site currently (on suse) [11:44] <_ruben> i havent used make-kpkg in years so i have no idea what might be causing this: http://pastebin.ca/823456 [11:54] _ruben: you might try running make-kpkg with --config menuconfig and then saving the config on exit without changing any config options, but that's purely a guess as I've never had problems running make-kpkg that way instead of with the default config target (--config oldconfig is implied according to the man page) [12:01] <_ruben> antdedyet: same thing :( [12:03] <_ruben> now it does work .. i think .. odd [12:06] _ruben: ah. :) [12:06] <_ruben> compiling kernel under vmware .. see you next week :p [12:41] <_ruben> just curious .. why is there a linux-patch-openswan package to build your own klips-enabled kernel, but no precompiled klips-enabled kernel? [13:21] <_ruben> bah .. kernel build bailed out with an error [14:45] hi all [14:46] does someone know something about nic bonding ? [14:47] <_ruben> a little [14:47] Hi Ruben [14:49] <_ruben> dont have much experience with it, yet, but do have a few boxes use it [14:49] <_ruben> not on ubuntu (yet), though [14:49] do you use ubuntu gutsy with it ? [14:50] which OS do you use ? [14:50] <_ruben> what is your actual problem/question? it might not be ubuntu specific [14:50] <_ruben> windows and suse [14:50] ok [14:50] my win2k3 server it works fine [14:51] but i've got also 1x openfiler san [14:51] and a ubuntu vmware server [14:51] running on gutsy amd64 [14:52] both are HP proliants with 2 nics [14:52] the problems i found a link for arrgeration [14:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinkAggregation [14:53] but I cannot the modutils [14:53] the link/document says that I have to modifie the document /etc/modutils/actions [14:54] but it doesn't exists in gutsy server AMD64 [14:55] I've tried to install the modutils, but I cannot install it. [14:55] <_ruben> lets check on x86 (playing with 2 vmware instances of it now) [14:55] it's driving me insain [14:56] :-( [14:56] <_ruben> not present here either [14:56] I have a question regarding Ubuntu server...is it any good? [14:57] <_ruben> KyleS-work: is what any good? [14:57] Ubuntu Server [14:57] I was thinking about installing it, but I wasn't sure how well it performed [14:57] <_ruben> Bounce: im guessing you tried skipping that step? [14:57] <_ruben> KyleS-work: i doubt you'd find any negative answers here .. im only experimenting with it yet (planning on migrating from suse to ubuntu), and im rather fond of it so far [14:58] ah [14:58] I use it here in production [14:58] I use Ubuntu Desktop, and Debian server right now on my older computer [14:58] but I'm getting a new server in the mail soon [14:58] my vmware servers are ubuntu server amd64 [14:58] And I was thinking of migrating to Ubuntu as it's more updated [14:58] I had no choice [14:59] Why's that? [14:59] I wanted VMware infrastructure [14:59] but for now it's to expensice [14:59] so I build it on ubuntu (with amd64 support)( [14:59] ah [14:59] :-P [15:00] works very good [15:00] I'll try it then :P [15:00] got 7 production machines on one vmware server [15:00] :-P [15:00] I was debating between Gentoo, Cent OS and Ubuntu Server [15:00] true [15:00] me to [15:00] openfiler is based on Cent OS [15:01] I use it as my test san [15:01] my only problem is to speed up [15:01] I have to go for now [15:01] my wife (and my sons) are waiting [15:01] see u tonight [15:01] bye [15:23] if anyone is awake, i have a raid question [15:24] i uploaded a dapper server to feisty, and went through the raid verification process [15:24] but mkconf gives me different UIDs from what is in my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf [15:25] mdrun works fine with my existing UIDs [15:25] <_ruben> i always mdadm to work with my raid confings [15:25] <_ruben> +use [15:26] the verification process suggests using mkconf to verify existing settings, but doesnt suggest what to do if they differ :( [15:26] <_ruben> never used those commands, so cant really help out here [15:26] this is a data partition, so not that big of a deal, but just wondering if i should not trust mkconf, or if its possible mdrun is working _in spite_ of my existing settings [15:27] <_ruben> is there a way to recreate /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf? if so i'd just make backup of that file, and recreate it [15:27] <_ruben> maybe even run a diff on those to see if there might be any obvious discrepencies [15:28] well my current mdadm.conf is hand made, so doesnt have all the comments...but the big thing is the disk UIDs are different [15:28] i can make a backup and try [15:29] but mainly wondering why mkconf is telling me something different from what is currently working [15:30] <_ruben> different as in completely different, or just in a diff order? [15:31] differnt uids [15:31] <_ruben> odd [15:31] generated by mkconf: ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 UUID=5d418565:6b3cb3b3:459da527:187157b7 [15:31] exisiting in my mdadm.conf: ARRAY /dev/.static/dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 UUID=5d418565:6b3cb3b3:7559ceb6:c7f89e22 [15:32] <_ruben> 2 are identical .. 2 differ .. very odd [15:32] never noticed the .static until i just pasted it [15:33] <_ruben> the only thing i can think of (and i know its rather far-fetched) is that there's some hashing algo involved which changed slightly [15:33] <_ruben> or smth in the drivers [15:33] <_ruben> either way, its a strange problem [16:55] hi [16:56] for some reason my server rebooted itself, and now the raid1 software is in this weird state: md3 : inactive sda7[0](S) you guys known how to fix this? [16:56] it should have two partitions, sda7 and sdb7, but for some reason only one is in there :/ === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [17:55] Hi. Does anyone know a 3rd part yrepository offering a threaded version of apache with php5 or more precisely, offering a php5 version that does not depend on the prefork mpm? === martin___ is now known as pisi [17:57] I'm about to compile php by hand but I'd like to apt-get install instead. [18:07] leonel: Debian just released a security update for Etch that may help you finding patches for Feisty/Gutsy. [18:13] ScottK: according to the changelogs we are up to date with feisty and gutsy [18:32] ScottK2: according to the changelogs we are up to date with feisty and gutsy [18:34] leonel: You looked at http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.1-3etch8.dsc [18:34] It may be we are up to date, but I want to make sure... [18:36] http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=clamav&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all <-- just this no etch8 [18:39] Etch8 was just release. Get that package and check there. [18:39] dget http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.1-3etch8.dsc should do it. === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [18:40] wow dget ... nice .. [18:50] hi. it appeared that ubuntu-server jeos found my nic and configured dhcp, however upon reboot, not eth* is listed [18:50] what should i do? [18:50] check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules === macd_ is now known as macd [18:56] drivers ?* [18:56] is that the problem? [18:56] iirc, it started the nic with pc card services [18:57] did you check the file i told you? [18:57] it should have mac address followed by the name of interface [18:57] something like this: [18:58] SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:0e:7b:4d:54:e6", NAME="eth0" [19:00] yes, it says that exactly with the exception of the address [19:00] ScottK: CVE-2007-6336 and CVE-2007-6335 need patch for gutsy .. patching .. after I'll chek feisty [19:00] ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6336) [19:01] ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-6335) [19:01] Ahmuck: is the mac address correct? [19:01] could it be because of the "virtual kernel" jeos uses? [19:01] let me check [19:02] 00:50:04:d7:22:df [19:02] leonel: Great. [19:03] i never used jeos [19:03] 3c905x [19:03] hrm [19:04] k, NAME= should be NAME== ? [19:05] looking at yours, mine is identical with the exception of the mac address [19:49] where is the u-server version of http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [19:50] I am trying to find where I can wget the installer kernel/initrd [21:30] hi all [21:31] Hi [21:33] all ubuntu admins are here ? [21:35] Bounce, What do you mean by Ubuntu Admins? :) [21:36] I having a little problem with networkbonding [21:36] I hope someone could help me [21:37] I am an win admin [21:37] Bounce, just ask your question, someone who knows will answer. [21:38] and I started with ubuntu in my production environment, everything works fine online the nic bonding [22:58] Hey guys, Im using the Ubuntu-desktop version. And I installed Oracle 11g using the http://www.dizwell.com/prod/node/929 guide. However I have no clue how to start it. Could anyone help me with that? [22:59] Bjor1: Oracle is not supported on ubuntu by either Oracle or Ubuntu [23:00] Bjor1, One second. [23:00] ikonia, well obv people got it running so why cant I ask other USERS. [23:00] who has it running ? [23:01] http://www.supinfo-projects.com/en/2006/oracle_on_ubuntu/ this guy for example [23:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622087 [23:01] it's not supported [23:01] there are some issues [23:02] really weird sinds debian is supported :o [23:02] *since [23:03] where does it say debian is supported ? [23:03] I know there is a package in a debian repo [23:04] Bjor1, By the sounds of the tutorial you followed, Oracle should have started after installation [23:05] there are some incompatabilities between ubuntu and oracle 10 and 11 [23:05] more so with some of the "G" functionalities [23:05] Bjor1, Is there any reason you want to use Oracle anyhow? [23:09] somerville32, yes I need it badly for my education "software engineering", and I can run all my tools needed on Linux but oracle db software isn't working. [23:10] Bjor1, You need Oracle for a course? You might want to consider using it on a support platform then so you don't get inconsistencies that might affect your mark or something? ;] [23:10] haha [23:10] surly not what I said in the first place [23:10] Bjor1, However, the tutorial says you should just be able to use good ol' SQL*Plus after installation [23:10] Bjor1, Have you tried that? [23:12] not yet [23:12] but im in contact, with the writer of the guide [23:13] otherwise iĺl install a v.small extra linux distro or use windows. [23:13] Need to use it for crapsis, to finish a other project anyway [23:13] crapsis = acces ;) [23:17] :)