| ari_stress | morning all :D | 02:01 |
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| kgoetz | morning :) | 02:03 |
| ari_stress | wazzup kgoetz | 02:10 |
| kgoetz | trying to fix a broken wiki at work :/ | 02:11 |
| kgoetz | one of the not 100% successful bits of yesterdays upgrade | 02:11 |
| ari_stress | what wiki do you use? | 02:25 |
| kgoetz | currently php wiki, but we are aiming to migrate to mediawiki RSN. (amusing really, i hacve to get phpwiki working before i'm alowedd to get rid of it) | 02:28 |
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| ScorpFromHell | anybody tried DHCP/TFTP/preseeding apprach to mass install Ubuntu/Edubuntu? how does it compare to doing a disk image copying using tools like Norton Ghost or PartImage? | 03:55 |
| * johnny guesses it is slower | 04:02 | |
| johnny | if you're using all sorts of different HDs tho | 04:03 |
| johnny | preseeding would be the better way | 04:03 |
| kgoetz | depends what your infrastructure is, and the plan for all the systems mid-long term | 04:03 |
| ScorpFromHell | johnny, the HDs are similar, we have nearly 100 machines but with only 3-4 different types of configs | 04:06 |
| ScorpFromHell | kgoetz, the systems are old machines used in our org & are now to be donated to various NGOs who would further distribute them to schools | 04:07 |
| ScorpFromHell | currently trying out an option similar to http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install using DHCP/TFTP/Preseed files | 04:08 |
| johnny | that would work nicely | 04:08 |
| ScorpFromHell | johnny, which one would work nicely? Preseed / disk image? | 04:09 |
| * kgoetz is is havingn a total braindead on teh subjet of netinstalls | 04:10 | |
| ScorpFromHell | it would be cool if we could have an idiot proof option for netinstalls :( | 04:11 |
| johnny | isn't it? | 04:11 |
| johnny | i mean.. there's onlly so low you can go | 04:12 |
| ScorpFromHell | then we could go all out for world domination :D | 04:12 |
| johnny | if it's preseeded, there shouldn't really be any options | 04:12 |
| johnny | just walk around and turn the PCs on | 04:12 |
| johnny | you can't get much more idiot proof than that | 04:12 |
| kgoetz | settin up the infrastrcture is (can be) very error prone | 04:13 |
| ScorpFromHell | oh, that part is idiot proof, johnny | 04:13 |
| kgoetz | collcting 100mac addresses an getting them into teh dhcp config for a start | 04:13 |
| ScorpFromHell | am stuck up in getting the infrastructure running, and am having to get it done remotely, like some 1000KM away :( | 04:13 |
| ScorpFromHell | kgoetz, yeah, agree, infrastructure is _the_ pain | 04:14 |
| kgoetz | ScorpFromHell: i've done the cd image method, i did lots of readinag about teh netinstall method. | 04:15 |
| kgoetz | sorry about the spelling, somewhat lagged :( | 04:15 |
| kgoetz | chose to do cds, beecause it was easier for the people helping me | 04:15 |
| ScorpFromHell | kgoetz, did u put up a wiki/blog about it? the whole exercise & the experience I mean | 04:16 |
| kgoetz | ScorpFromHell: no, we didnt :/ i planed to, but other things took over, and i havent thought about it recently. it was for ITShares PNG computer shipment | 04:17 |
| ScorpFromHell | ah ... the ITShares folks ... `6og shared me their URL yesterday ... we are doing something on those lines ... but all for free ... http://scorpfromhell.blogspot.com | 04:18 |
| * kgoetz is `6og | 04:19 | |
| ScorpFromHell | ooops :D | 04:19 |
| kgoetz | itshare only startd charging after almost goign broke. (and the $20 fee isnt to hard methinks :p) | 04:19 |
| ScorpFromHell | well ... actually, we are doing it for free as part of our CSR | 04:20 |
| kgoetz | csr? | 04:20 |
| ScorpFromHell | I let my wife know of this & she was, we can start something like that here too :) | 04:20 |
| ScorpFromHell | csr= corporate social responsibility ... "suit" speak for social welfare activities | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | ah | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | like santos donating us their gear :) | 04:21 |
| ScorpFromHell | csr is so that the "suits" all don't rot in hell ;) | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 04:21 |
| ScorpFromHell | kgoetz, I also came across a thread suggesting using PartImage in the SystemRescueCD which is a LiveCD | 04:24 |
| kgoetz | not familr with tehm | 04:26 |
| ScorpFromHell | partimage is something like norton ghost for linux ... | 04:26 |
| ScorpFromHell | looked it up yesterday ... I have suggested to give a peep, lets see what the guys come up with | 04:27 |
| ScorpFromHell | also, was wondering if we could include AptOnCD by default in the Server Add-on CD | 04:27 |
| ScorpFromHell | where should I suggest this? Blueprints on launchpad? | 04:27 |
| kgoetz | filea wishlist bug, and do a blueprint saying how you think it would work | 04:28 |
| ScorpFromHell | tx kgoetz, am coming back to all this irc, bug reporting stuff after almost 7 years! got to become a "suit" in the meantime :( | 04:29 |
| kgoetz | :/ welcome back, hope we can save you ;) | 04:29 |
| ScorpFromHell | yeah, I plan to win back my soul as yet :D lol | 04:33 |
| ScorpFromHell | kgoetz, gotta go to fix my wife's notebook, will be away | 04:37 |
| ScorpFromHell | btw, what timezone are you in? me GMT+5.5 | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | GMT+9.5 | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | Thu Dec 20 15:08:36 CST 2007 | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | date: unrecognized option `--gmt' | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | Try `date --help' for more information. | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | hm. | 04:38 |
| kgoetz | Thu Dec 20 04:38:59 UTC 2007 | 04:39 |
| kgoetz | yes, 9.5 | 04:39 |
| kgoetz | (utc) | 04:39 |
| kgoetz | (--utc, not --gmt) | 04:39 |
| neil_d | any ideas where I could find a user manual for a ga-pcv2 pc-1500 mini-itx motherboard | 07:38 |
| ScorpFromHell | is there anything that allows you to setup a netboot server that would copy disk images instead of using preseed files to setup systems? | 08:11 |
| ScorpFromHell | something like what Ghost does for Windows? | 08:11 |
| johnny | uhmm.. partimage? doesn't it do that? | 08:12 |
| johnny | plus there was ghost4linux | 08:12 |
| johnny | but they had to rename it | 08:12 |
| johnny | i forgot | 08:12 |
| johnny | but i bet you can still find it | 08:12 |
| ScorpFromHell | johnny, k let me check that up ... I found PING http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping/howto-2.01.html | 08:13 |
| RichEd | ScorpFromHell: check this page see if it helps | 08:21 |
| RichEd | http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/Install_and_Replicate_Operating_Systems | 08:21 |
| RichEd | actually scrap that ... the netboot section isn't helpful | 08:22 |
| ScorpFromHell | thanks riched, am also following up http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_PXE_network_booting based on johnny's clues | 08:23 |
| RichEd | there is a help.ubuntu page but it says it does not work for gutsy :( | 08:24 |
| RichEd | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet | 08:24 |
| somerville32 | RichEd, poke | 08:33 |
| RichEd | mr somerville32 :) | 08:34 |
| somerville32 | RichEd, and updates? :) | 08:34 |
| somerville32 | *any | 08:34 |
| `6og | <ScorpFromHell> is there anything that allows you to setup a netboot server that would copy disk images instead of using preseed files to setup systems? | 10:29 |
| `6og | ^^ at LCA in sydney someone did 'ubuntu live' which was effectively that. dont remember who or how though :/ | 10:29 |
| ScorpFromHell | `6og, Well this seems promising: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_PXE_network_booting | 10:31 |
| ScorpFromHell | `6og: only that this needs min 280MB RAM in the client m/cs ... so need to create a custom CD as per http://www.sysresccd.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1763 | 10:32 |
| `6og | ScorpFromHell, how much ram do you have? | 10:32 |
| ScorpFromHell | `6og: the steps to create the custom cd are here: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_personalize_SystemRescueCd | 10:32 |
| ScorpFromHell | `6og, some systems have 256, some have 512 | 10:32 |
| ScorpFromHell | this is a cross between the netinstall & disk image ... effectively providing a netboot using SystemRescueCD distro & using PartImage to create & copy disk-images | 10:34 |
| `6og | looks likely. is it free software? | 10:34 |
| ScorpFromHell | `6og, yes ... its all open source | 10:45 |
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| bddebian | heya | 15:20 |
| rusty | http://tinyurl.com/249rjg | 17:42 |
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| ian__ | hi, i've got a disklessworkstation 170 and i can't seem to figure out how to get it to work in ltsp5 (gutsy) | 23:05 |
| ian__ | i have the 170 dvi model | 23:05 |
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