[02:01] morning all :D [02:03] morning :) [02:10] wazzup kgoetz [02:11] trying to fix a broken wiki at work :/ [02:11] one of the not 100% successful bits of yesterdays upgrade [02:25] what wiki do you use? [02:28] currently php wiki, but we are aiming to migrate to mediawiki RSN. (amusing really, i hacve to get phpwiki working before i'm alowedd to get rid of it) === freeflying_ is now known as freeflying [03:55] anybody tried DHCP/TFTP/preseeding apprach to mass install Ubuntu/Edubuntu? how does it compare to doing a disk image copying using tools like Norton Ghost or PartImage? [04:02] * johnny guesses it is slower [04:03] if you're using all sorts of different HDs tho [04:03] preseeding would be the better way [04:03] depends what your infrastructure is, and the plan for all the systems mid-long term [04:06] johnny, the HDs are similar, we have nearly 100 machines but with only 3-4 different types of configs [04:07] kgoetz, the systems are old machines used in our org & are now to be donated to various NGOs who would further distribute them to schools [04:08] currently trying out an option similar to http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install using DHCP/TFTP/Preseed files [04:08] that would work nicely [04:09] johnny, which one would work nicely? Preseed / disk image? [04:10] * kgoetz is is havingn a total braindead on teh subjet of netinstalls [04:11] it would be cool if we could have an idiot proof option for netinstalls :( [04:11] isn't it? [04:12] i mean.. there's onlly so low you can go [04:12] then we could go all out for world domination :D [04:12] if it's preseeded, there shouldn't really be any options [04:12] just walk around and turn the PCs on [04:12] you can't get much more idiot proof than that [04:13] settin up the infrastrcture is (can be) very error prone [04:13] oh, that part is idiot proof, johnny [04:13] collcting 100mac addresses an getting them into teh dhcp config for a start [04:13] am stuck up in getting the infrastructure running, and am having to get it done remotely, like some 1000KM away :( [04:14] kgoetz, yeah, agree, infrastructure is _the_ pain [04:15] ScorpFromHell: i've done the cd image method, i did lots of readinag about teh netinstall method. [04:15] sorry about the spelling, somewhat lagged :( [04:15] chose to do cds, beecause it was easier for the people helping me [04:16] kgoetz, did u put up a wiki/blog about it? the whole exercise & the experience I mean [04:17] ScorpFromHell: no, we didnt :/ i planed to, but other things took over, and i havent thought about it recently. it was for ITShares PNG computer shipment [04:18] ah ... the ITShares folks ... `6og shared me their URL yesterday ... we are doing something on those lines ... but all for free ... http://scorpfromhell.blogspot.com [04:19] * kgoetz is `6og [04:19] ooops :D [04:19] itshare only startd charging after almost goign broke. (and the $20 fee isnt to hard methinks :p) [04:20] well ... actually, we are doing it for free as part of our CSR [04:20] csr? [04:20] I let my wife know of this & she was, we can start something like that here too :) [04:21] csr= corporate social responsibility ... "suit" speak for social welfare activities [04:21] ah [04:21] like santos donating us their gear :) [04:21] csr is so that the "suits" all don't rot in hell ;) [04:21] hehe [04:24] kgoetz, I also came across a thread suggesting using PartImage in the SystemRescueCD which is a LiveCD [04:26] not familr with tehm [04:26] partimage is something like norton ghost for linux ... [04:27] looked it up yesterday ... I have suggested to give a peep, lets see what the guys come up with [04:27] also, was wondering if we could include AptOnCD by default in the Server Add-on CD [04:27] where should I suggest this? Blueprints on launchpad? [04:28] filea wishlist bug, and do a blueprint saying how you think it would work [04:29] tx kgoetz, am coming back to all this irc, bug reporting stuff after almost 7 years! got to become a "suit" in the meantime :( [04:29] :/ welcome back, hope we can save you ;) [04:33] yeah, I plan to win back my soul as yet :D lol [04:37] kgoetz, gotta go to fix my wife's notebook, will be away [04:38] btw, what timezone are you in? me GMT+5.5 [04:38] GMT+9.5 [04:38] Thu Dec 20 15:08:36 CST 2007 [04:38] date: unrecognized option `--gmt' [04:38] Try `date --help' for more information. [04:38] hm. [04:39] Thu Dec 20 04:38:59 UTC 2007 [04:39] yes, 9.5 [04:39] (utc) [04:39] (--utc, not --gmt) [07:38] any ideas where I could find a user manual for a ga-pcv2 pc-1500 mini-itx motherboard [08:11] is there anything that allows you to setup a netboot server that would copy disk images instead of using preseed files to setup systems? [08:11] something like what Ghost does for Windows? [08:12] uhmm.. partimage? doesn't it do that? [08:12] plus there was ghost4linux [08:12] but they had to rename it [08:12] i forgot [08:12] but i bet you can still find it [08:13] johnny, k let me check that up ... I found PING http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping/howto-2.01.html [08:21] ScorpFromHell: check this page see if it helps [08:21] http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/Install_and_Replicate_Operating_Systems [08:22] actually scrap that ... the netboot section isn't helpful [08:23] thanks riched, am also following up http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_PXE_network_booting based on johnny's clues [08:24] there is a help.ubuntu page but it says it does not work for gutsy :( [08:24] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet [08:33] RichEd, poke [08:34] mr somerville32 :) [08:34] RichEd, and updates? :) [08:34] *any [10:29] <`6og> is there anything that allows you to setup a netboot server that would copy disk images instead of using preseed files to setup systems? [10:29] <`6og> ^^ at LCA in sydney someone did 'ubuntu live' which was effectively that. dont remember who or how though :/ [10:31] `6og, Well this seems promising: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_PXE_network_booting [10:32] `6og: only that this needs min 280MB RAM in the client m/cs ... so need to create a custom CD as per http://www.sysresccd.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1763 [10:32] <`6og> ScorpFromHell, how much ram do you have? [10:32] `6og: the steps to create the custom cd are here: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_personalize_SystemRescueCd [10:32] `6og, some systems have 256, some have 512 [10:34] this is a cross between the netinstall & disk image ... effectively providing a netboot using SystemRescueCD distro & using PartImage to create & copy disk-images [10:34] <`6og> looks likely. is it free software? [10:45] `6og, yes ... its all open source === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [15:20] heya [17:42] http://tinyurl.com/249rjg === [1]Netham45 is now known as Netham45 [23:05] hi, i've got a disklessworkstation 170 and i can't seem to figure out how to get it to work in ltsp5 (gutsy) [23:05] i have the 170 dvi model