[00:00] <hamadooo> okik i will try
[00:01] <sd132> is there a list of bot commands anywhere?
[00:01] <mempman> i have hp laptop, are there any good programs out there to change touchpad sensitivty settings?
[00:01] <steveire> andreas__: What is the problem you're having? Is it just configuration?
[00:01] <andreas__> about what?
[00:02] <andreas__> the brightness?
[00:02] <NickPresta> !bot > sd132
[00:02] <sd132> NickPresta: thanks
[00:02] <posingaspopular> hey all, im having trouble importing my signed CoC into LP. it gives me 'no data' every single time
[00:03] <tekteen> posingaspopular: coc?
[00:03] <cheguevara_> not really kubuntu related that
[00:03] <steveire> andreas__: Using your p2p
[00:03] <cheguevara_> code of conduct
[00:03] <tekteen> what is a coc
[00:03] <tekteen> ok
[00:04] <Squeezed> hi
[00:04] <andreas__> i have installed dc_gui but i can't get it to connect to dchub://toffe1.the-internationals.com:1337
[00:04] <stacey> i have the following dependancey error, what should i do  smbclient: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2) but 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 is installed.
[00:04] <cheguevara_> posingaspopular: #launchpad
[00:04] <Squeezed> i have a grat problem with kubuntu
[00:04] <Squeezed> with konqueror
[00:05] <Squeezed> and kopete
[00:05] <Squeezed> i'm connected with a 56k modem now
[00:05] <posingaspopular> thanks all
[00:05] <blueman> why do i keep getting booted out of here periodically?
[00:05] <blueman> it is sooo frustrating
[00:05] <Squeezed> but i can't surf the web with konqueror
[00:06] <NickPresta> blueman, what message are you kicked with?
[00:06] <Squeezed> can someone help me?
[00:06] <steveire> Does anyone have qt demos installed or want to be really helpful and apt-get install libqt4-doc?
[00:06] <blueman> nick: it just says connection timed out
[00:07] <NickPresta> blueman, then you aren't being booted out of here. Your connection is timing out =)
[00:07] <ardchoille> blueman: You weren't kicked, your connection timed out.. nothing we can do about that
[00:07] <tehm0nk> sup people
[00:08] <steveire> Anyone?
[00:08] <hamadooo> blueman .. i think you can adjuste the brightness with ctrl and F6
[00:08] <hamadooo> try it
[00:08] <Squeezed> i don't know how to help you
[00:08] <cheguevara_> steveire, yeah i'll do it
[00:09] <andreas__> i am using Apollon right now and it is taking so long to connect!!
[00:09] <andreas__> actually it can NOT connect
[00:09] <steveire> cheguevara_: Cool.
[00:09] <Squeezed> is someone using a 56k here?
[00:09] <steveire> Actually, apt-get source qt4-dev instead.
[00:09] <hamadooo> i have a question now ... i have to languages in ubuntu how can i swich between them by using ctrl and alt just like the windows
[00:10] <tehm0nk> any gamers here?
[00:10] <cheguevara_> probably got qt4-dev already
[00:10] <cheguevara_> what are the steps to reproduce
[00:10] <steveire> cheguevara_: Yeah, but if you apt-get source libqt4-dev you get some demo applications :)
[00:11] <cheguevara_> oh source
[00:11] <hamadooo> help
[00:11] <cheguevara_> didn't notice that
[00:11] <hamadooo> i have a question now ... i have to languages in ubuntu how can i swich between them by using ctrl and alt just like the windows
[00:11] <hamadooo> tow
[00:11] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, its in kde's control panel soewhere
[00:11] <steveire> cheguevara_: Yeah, sorry I'm being confusing i know. That stops now.
[00:11] <steveire> :)
[00:11] <hamadooo> well im using ubuntu
[00:11] <hamadooo> where i can find this control panel
[00:12] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:12] <hamadooo> ubuntu
[00:12] <cheguevara_> steveire, give me 5 minutes to get the source
[00:12] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, so why are you asking your questions in a kubuntu support channel
[00:12] <hamadooo> they don't help me there
[00:13] <hamadooo> no one asnswers me
[00:13] <cheguevara_> well we don't have gnome to help you :P
[00:13] <jack12> hamadoo: what is your question
[00:13] <ardchoille> hamadooo: This channel is for Kubuntu support, many of the apps used by these folks won't be available in gnome unless you install them.
[00:13] <hamadooo> i have tow languages in my ubuntu .. i want to swich between them by ctrl and alt just like the windows
[00:14] <jack12> if my connection times out one more time, i am gonna flllliiippp
[00:14] <hamadooo> ok ardchille
[00:14] <hamadooo> i think there are almost the same .. ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:14] <hamadooo> that's why i asked here
[00:15] <bazhang> what languages hamadooo
[00:15] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, the core is the same but the GUI is not
[00:15] <hamadooo> i have arabic and english and i want to swich between them via keyboard
[00:15] <andreas__> Hello? I am having troubles with Apollon.. Anybody to help
[00:15] <andreas__> ?
[00:15] <jack12> y is it that some programs (i.e. wmbattery) install into /usr/bin and also in /usr/bin/X11
[00:15] <bazhang> skim hamadooo read up on it, then go to #ubuntu
[00:16] <hamadooo> what skim means
[00:16] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, try  System -> Preferences -> Input languages
[00:16] <cheguevara_> or something along those lines
[00:16] <bazhang> skim hamadooo read up on it--did you do that already?
[00:16] <hamadooo> no
[00:16] <hamadooo> where can i read about it
[00:17] <bazhang> then first do so hamadooo--are you familiar with any search engines?
[00:17] <hamadooo> yes google
[00:17] <bazhang> there you go
[00:17] <hamadooo> but let me use what cheguevara sayid first
[00:17] <cheguevara_> System (top 3rd place)
[00:17] <cheguevara_> Preferences (top in list)
[00:17] <cheguevara_> Keyboard (5th in list)
[00:17] <cheguevara_> Layouts (2nd tab)
[00:17] <cheguevara_> try that
[00:17] <hamadooo> ok
[00:18] <hamadooo> yes i did that .. and i already have the tow language in my ubuntu .. but i can swich between them with my keyboard like i always do in windows
[00:18] <hamadooo> ctrl + alt
[00:19] <ardchoille> hamadooo: are you using gnome or kde?
[00:19] <hamadooo> gnome
[00:19] <jack12> maybe i should switch from kubuntu and ubuntu.....?
[00:19] <jack12> perhaps...any thoughts?
[00:19] <bazhang> hamadooo: I already answered that: skim--read about it, then go to #ubuntu
[00:19] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, there where i told u to go
[00:19] <cheguevara_> will be options
[00:19] <hamadooo> ok guy's just don't be angry
[00:19] <cheguevara_> to set the keys to switch
[00:19] <hamadooo> i will
[00:19] <cheguevara_> just look harder
[00:19] <bazhang> harder heh
[00:20] <hamadooo> ok i don't need this now ... i have another question
[00:20] <hamadooo> what is the best msn client
[00:20] <cheguevara_> go on :P
[00:20] <bazhang> jack12: no idea--the support for other distros is not very good
[00:20] <cheguevara_> amsn
[00:20] <hamadooo> i want it to be like the windows
[00:20] <bazhang> hamadooo: then go to ##windows
[00:20] <hamadooo> amsn good but doesnt support arabic .. only english
[00:21] <cheguevara_> why switch to linux if you want things to be like windows :P
[00:21] <cheguevara_> especially to a gnome distro :P
[00:21] <hamadooo> cuz last night i got virus un my windows
[00:21] <hamadooo> i hate it ;/
[00:21] <tekteen> hamadooo: try kubuntu
[00:21] <cheguevara_> amsn doesn't only supports english
[00:21] <tekteen> hamadooo: it is "more like windows"
[00:21] <cheguevara_> i am not entirely sure about arabic
[00:21] <bazhang> hamadooo: listen to tekteen :} then we can help you
[00:22] <cheguevara_> steveire, got the source
[00:22] <steveire> cheguevara_: Great cd qt4-x11-4.3.2/demos/textedit
[00:22] <hamadooo> i don't have the cd for kubuntu .. and ubuntu looks better cuz its the first one of them
[00:22] <steveire> or use konqi. Doesn't matter
[00:22] <cheguevara_> i prefer terminal :P
[00:22] <ardchoille> hamadooo: Please go to #ubuntu for gnome support. This channel is for Kubuntu support.
[00:22] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, then seek support in #ubuntu
[00:23] <bazhang> then go to the correct channel hamadooo
[00:23] <steveire> cool, then ./textedit
[00:23] <hamadooo> no help there
[00:23] <hamadooo> i went there and no one talks to me
[00:23] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, then forums or come back later
[00:23] <bazhang> no help for that here
[00:23] <tekteen> hamadooo: I found the fonts
[00:23] <steveire> select a word, like widget or something, and click ctrl+u
[00:23] <cheguevara_> steveire, need to compile it first right
[00:23] <hamadooo> you guy's look helpful
[00:23] <hamadooo> wht fonts
[00:23] <steveire> cheguevara_: Oh yeah.
[00:23] <cheguevara_> hamadooo, but we can't help you with something we don't use
[00:23] <tekteen> hamadooo: sudo apt-get install ttf-arabeyes
[00:24] <cheguevara_> steveire, remind me the comand
[00:24] <steveire> cheguevara_: cd demos
[00:24] <tekteen> that is arabic fonts
[00:24] <steveire> then qmake -project; qmake; make
[00:24] <hamadooo> i have arabic fonts .. but amsn doesn't suport arabic not ubuntu
[00:24] <hamadooo> i can right arabic here
[00:24] <tekteen> oh
[00:24] <hamadooo> write
[00:24] <tekteen> sorry
[00:24] <hamadooo> anyways it's ok
[00:24] <hamadooo> i fine without msn :P
[00:25] <hamadooo> now plz let's talk about mirc
[00:25] <hamadooo> i use xchat
[00:25] <ardchoille> hamadooo: Please go to #ubuntu for gnome support. This channel is for Kubuntu support. This is your last warning.
[00:25] <hamadooo> it seems good .. but i hate the colors
[00:25] <cheguevara_> steveire, your sure thats the comand
[00:25] <cheguevara_> i get an error
[00:25] <tekteen> hamadooo: want to get kubuntu?
[00:25] <hamadooo> sorry
[00:25] <andreas__> hamadoo
[00:25] <hamadooo> i leave now
[00:25] <hamadooo> yes
[00:25] <andreas__> Konversation is a very good client
[00:26] <steveire> cheguevara_: Could you pastebin the error?
[00:26] <andreas__> it came with Kubuntu
[00:26] <steveire> cheguevara_:
[00:26] <tekteen> hamadooo: in the terminal type
[00:26] <steveire> qmake-qt4; make
[00:26] <steveire> try that instead
[00:26] <hamadooo> can i download it in ubuntu
[00:26] <tekteen> hamadooo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:26] <andreas__> well you might find in in adept manager
[00:26] <hamadooo> takteen i don't want kubuntu i like ubuntu
[00:26] <tekteen> ok
[00:26] <hamadooo> ok andreas thanx
[00:27] <hamadooo> thanx all of u for help
[00:27] <tehm0nk> what do i need to install to see FLV videos? like youtube?
[00:27] <ardchoille> hamadooo: You can install kubuntu as tekteen suggested or you can download it from here: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php
[00:27] <hamadooo> i will leave now before they kick me out
[00:27] <cheguevara_> cheguevara@cheguevara-laptop:~/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos$ qmake-qt4 -project
[00:27] <cheguevara_> Failure to open file: /home/cheguevara/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos//demos.pro
[00:27] <hamadooo> ok thanx
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: hey... hows the monitors going?
[00:27] <hamadooo> bye
[00:27] <jack12> does anybody know of any good programs for laptop touchpad sensitivity controls??
[00:27] <tehm0nk> they're okay
[00:27] <tekteen> tehm0nk: flash
[00:27] <wimpies> HI all, my firefox does not want to load flash 9 although it is installed
[00:27] <tehm0nk> kinda weird tho
[00:27] <tehm0nk> tekteen: do you know the package name?
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> jack12: ksynaptics
[00:27] <steveire> cheguevara_: OK, forget the -project switch for the minute and just do qmake-qt4
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: but they are both finally workning?
[00:28] <tekteen> tehm0nk: 64 bit or 32?
[00:28] <tehm0nk> 32
[00:28] <cheguevara_> steveire, i know that won't work 'cause there's no Makefile :P
[00:28] <tehm0nk> yeah both are working but it's weird
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: flashplugin-nonfree
[00:28] <jack12> nosrednaekim: does that work for hp laptops or anything?
[00:28] <steveire> cheguevara_: Try it
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[00:28] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> cheguevara_: is it cmake?
[00:28] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: it does not work
[00:28] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: it gives an error
[00:29] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: ah... thats right.. I forgot.
[00:29] <cheguevara_> steveire, Failure to open file: /home/cheguevara/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos/Makefile
[00:29] <tekteen> I will give u a link
[00:29] <cheguevara_> nosrednaekim, nah its uk it doesn't use cmake
[00:29] <Xbehave> on a toshiba laptop i only get sound though my headphones
[00:29] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: never mind me.. are you using konqueror or firefox?
[00:30] <tekteen> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[00:30] <nosrednaekim> cheguevara_: does it have a README or INSTALL file?
[00:30] <wimpies> nosrednaekim : I have that (even a higher) version installed : 9.0.115.0ubuntu2 and the libs.  It also seems firefox is loading them (lsof shows lib) but when I enter a site with flash 9 I get the request to download the flash 9
[00:30] <steveire> cheguevara_: I'm having some network issues. I'll be back in a minute. have a look at ownership and permissions on those files.
[00:30] <tehm0nk> firefoc
[00:30] <cheguevara_> ah acutally you are right
[00:30] <nosrednaekim> wimpies: try it in konqueror.
[00:30] <cheguevara_> i fetched the files as root
[00:30] <cheguevara_> duuuh
[00:30] <wimpies> nosrednaekim : same problem
[00:30] <Pete_^> It seems they've changed the flash plugin
[00:30] <steveire> cheguevara_: :)
[00:31] <tekteen> new update :-D
[00:31] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: then visit any site that has flash and it should prompt you to install the plugin.
[00:31] <Pete_^> flashplugin-nonfree is broken, along with konqueror auto install
[00:31] <Pete_^> nosrednaekim: Its broken there too.
[00:31] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: Adobe changed it?
[00:31] <tekteen> yep
[00:31] <tehm0nk> ok got it
[00:31] <nosrednaekim> oh... wow.
[00:31] <wimpies> Pete_^ : indeed I downloaded the tar.gz version extracted the lib, copied all to no avail
[00:32] <ardchoille> flashplugin-nonfree is not broken for me in Gutsy
[00:32] <wimpies> I run feisty
[00:32] <Pete_^> nosrednaekim: I believe so
[00:32] <tekteen> They need to update it
[00:32] <tekteen> I will find a bug on it
[00:32] <Pete_^> ardchoille: not sure what you are doing ;)
[00:33] <ardchoille> Pete_^: Oh, you mean for new installs?
[00:33] <steveire> cheguevara_: sudo chown -R cheguevara_:cheguevara_ qt4-x11-4.3.3 so
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: seems flash is kinda broken, you may not want to install right now... if you can wait a few days it should be fixed.
[00:33] <Pete_^> the md5sum of the file has changed, pretty simple. Unless the package has been updated really recently
[00:33] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[00:33] <Pete_^> ardchoille: Yes
[00:33] <cheguevara_> yeah steveire i know that :P
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> cheguevara_: what are you doing that for? its in the repositories..
[00:34] <steveire> :-) cool. Is it working this time?
[00:34] <cheguevara_> nosrednaekim: yeah I know, steveire wants to show me some bug though :P
[00:34] <wimpies> nosrednaekim : I find it strange since the lib *is* there (I used the tar.gz file at adobe's) but even that does not work.  So is the Adobe version broken ?
[00:34] <cheguevara_> steveire, yeah got textedit started
[00:34] <cheguevara_> whats the bug then
[00:34] <Pete_^> They've changed the version they are hosting recently
[00:34] <nosrednaekim> cheguevara_: oh
[00:34] <nosrednaekim> wimpies: that seems to be the case
[00:35] <wimpies> nosrednaekim : and will that be fixed in a few days ?
[00:35] <cheguevara_> nosrednaekim: never compiled qt or any qt project by hand before, so sound n00b lol
[00:35] <nosrednaekim> wimpies: hopefully
[00:35] <steveire> cheguevara_: select a word and ctrl+u to toggle underline a few times. The bug is that the first time it underlines the word without toggling the button, second time it toggles the button, and third time it toggles off normally.
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> cheguevara_: heh
[00:36] <cheguevara_> unlikely that flash will be fixed soon
[00:36] <cheguevara_> the patch is not ready yet and the size of it is not stable material
[00:36] <billybobo> my boot screen isn't working anymore
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: what about it is not working.
[00:37] <cheguevara_> steveire, toggled for me from the first time
[00:37] <billybobo> when i buut it used to read, "Kubuntu", and had a progress bar.  Now its just black
[00:37] <billybobo> \\when i *boot*...
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: did you just swap videocards?
[00:37] <billybobo> nope
[00:37] <billybobo> intel card
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> or from onboard to PCI-X?
[00:38] <billybobo> i've tried dpkg-reconfigure usplash and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:38] <steveire> cheguevara_: Hmmm... That's interesting. It must mean something's wrong with my box. Bad for me, but probably means kjots4 is ok.
[00:38] <billybobo> nope same card
[00:38] <steveire> cheguevara_: Have a look at the qt tutorial and examples while you have it. Qt's powerful and easy.
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: odd, the people who most often report that is those who either have two monitor outputs, or two video cards
[00:39] <billybobo> nope.
[00:39] <Pete_^> for people wondering about flash : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[00:39] <cheguevara_> steveire, which qt version you got?
[00:39] <Pete_^> I believe its the same in Gusty too
[00:39] <cheguevara_> steveire, qt might be easy C++ is not :P
[00:39]  * nosrednaekim <3 QT
[00:39] <billybobo> any suggestions on how to fix it?
[00:39] <steveire> cheguevara_: 4.3.2 from kubuntu repos
[00:39] <cheguevara_> mine is 4.3.3
[00:39] <nosrednaekim> pyqt! :D
[00:39] <cheguevara_> might be something there
[00:40] <steveire> cheguevara_: Are you sure? Is that what it says in help > about QT?
[00:40] <cheguevara_> nosrednaekim, phpqt, FTW :P
[00:40] <steveire> cheguevara_: Where did you get it from? A PPA?
[00:40] <andreas__> is kubuntu a kind of Debian?
[00:40] <nosrednaekim> 4.3.2 from gutsy repos..
[00:40] <ardchoille> !away > grycAFK
[00:40] <cheguevara_> steveire, hardy :P
[00:40] <nosrednaekim> lol
[00:40] <steveire> cheguevara_: Ah right
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> andreas__: yes, it is based on debian
[00:41] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Any chance you have qt demos or kde4 installed?
[00:41] <billybobo> i've also lost all of my screensavers in KDE!! :(
[00:41] <steveire> (And using gutsy :))
[00:41] <andreas__> so why do people stick to kubuntu/ubuntu instead of debian?
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> steveire: using KDE4, yes
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: yeah, look at the bugs, I heard about that one before
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> andreas__: because its simpler and easier
[00:42] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Could you check out kjots from svn and confirm a bug for me?
[00:43] <andreas__> so it just took the philosophy of debian and made it more approachable
[00:43] <andreas__> right?
[00:43] <billybobo> ok but nothing on the usplash during startup or shutdown?
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> steveire: probably not... i'm on dial-up,and i'd have to get the -dev's as well
[00:43] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Ah right
[00:43] <steveire> cheers
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: not that I kow of... you could try booting a different kernel
[00:44] <billybobo> this computer is a gift, to be given tonight... and Kubuntu is falling apart on me :(
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> steveire: sorry...
[00:44] <billybobo> there is no other kernel listed, even though it installed a new one this morning
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> steveire: is this a kde bug?
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: ok, well, nothing seems to be seriously broken, a missing splash is really nothing to be worried about.
[00:45] <tekteen> billybobo: u may want to reinstall
[00:45] <billybobo> eh, but a black screen for 45 seconds isn't promising
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> but the screensavers..... hmm
[00:45] <steveire> nosrednaekim: It's from qt, but I don't know if it's something wrong with my box's config/qt4.3.2 bug/kubuntu packages... Trying to track it down
[00:45] <billybobo> i've spent hours getting it to this state, not going to do that before tonight... aka in 30m
[00:45] <tekteen> billybobo: click alt+F1 during boot
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> billybobo: take "splash" off the grub line and see text instead :D
[00:45] <billybobo> hmmm
[00:46] <nosrednaekim> steveire: oh ok... don't want to look dumb when you report it as a bug? :D
[00:46] <tehm0nk> how do i kill a program that isn't responding?
[00:46] <tehm0nk> adept manager freaked out on me...
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: "ctrl+esc"
[00:47] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: Ksysguard ctrl-etc
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: use synaptic... its generally stabler
[00:47] <steveire> nosrednaekim: If it's fixed in4.3.3 I don't think it's worth reporting :)
[00:47] <Pete_^> Xkill is good too ;)
[00:47] <Pete_^> You have to take more care with that though.
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> steveire: well, it is, because kde4 depends on >=4.3.2 right now, so they will probably want to be aware of it
[00:47] <tehm0nk> "Insufficient permissions to kill process #"
[00:48] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: be careful, press ctrl-alt-esc and click on the locked window
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: heh, run this on the command line then "sudo killall -9 adept_manager"
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> and then you will have to run a !adeptfix
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[00:48] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:50] <tehm0nk> ok all better
[00:51] <tehm0nk> where does synaptic install to?
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: what do you mean?
[00:51] <tehm0nk> i can't find it in my menu
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> oh... system I think.
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: or "kdesudo synaptic" on the command line'
[00:53] <tehm0nk> are any of you gamers?
[00:53] <tehm0nk> or better yet, play wow?
[00:53] <bazhang> yeah
[00:53] <tehm0nk> did you install wow in kubuntu?
[00:53] <bazhang> not wow--wii
[00:53] <Pete_^> I just built a new gaming machine yesterday, but I don't play WoW.
[00:54] <tehm0nk> bah, just wondered if i should install wow in vista or here
[00:54]  * nosrednaekim playes Bzflag... and thats about it
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: its possible to do it within wine
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> and its been done many many times
[00:55] <tehm0nk> and is it better to have an extended to 2nd screen setup with dual monitors or 2 X screens?
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> !WoW
[00:55] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:55] <bazhang> very good under wine iirc tehm0nk
[00:55] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: Depends what you want to do
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: extended is harder to set up usually
[00:55] <tehm0nk> so is dual X screens
[00:55] <tehm0nk> for some reason the second one is like... weird
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> like how?
[00:55] <tehm0nk> the menubar is super basic
[00:56] <tehm0nk> doesn't look like the other one
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> menubar for what.
[00:56] <Pete_^> I remember that
[00:56] <tehm0nk> and my other one lost stuff
[00:56] <tehm0nk> nosrednaekim: at the bottom of the screen
[00:56] <tehm0nk> the taskbar i guess
[00:56] <Pete_^> I personally prefer twinview or xinerama
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: oh.... kicker and two desktops...
[00:56] <tehm0nk> if you maximize something does it go BOTH screens or just the one?
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: yeah, i've never messed with dual monitors.. projector is as far as I've gotten.
[00:57] <tehm0nk> (pete)
[00:57] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: Depends how you set it up
[00:57] <Pete_^> I like it to maximise to one screen
[00:57] <tehm0nk> right same with me
[00:57] <tehm0nk> but i dont know what to do to make it setup right...
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[00:57] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:57] <tehm0nk> i'd Like to be able to drag things to the other screen
[00:58] <Pete_^> Twinview is good if you have one nvidia card outputting to two screens, xinerama is good if you have a more complicated setup but 3d acceleration across multiple screens isn't such of an issue
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> so its really running two whole xservers?
[00:58] <tehm0nk> nosrednaekim: Duh been there :-P
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: figures ;)
[00:58] <tehm0nk> well i have 2 videocards :-x
[00:58] <Pete_^> I don't know if theres an ATI driver based solution
[00:58] <tehm0nk> 1 monitor on each
[00:59] <tehm0nk> Pete_^: you good witht he xorg.conf file?
[00:59] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: I wouldn't say good, but if needed I can have a look I suppose
[00:59] <tehm0nk> i could pastebin mine and you tell me what to change to make it the way i'd like?
[01:00] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: I'll give it a shot
[01:00] <tehm0nk> ok cool
[01:00] <tehm0nk> lemme get the current one and pastebin...
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: have you tried messing in the monitor and display section of systemsettings?
[01:00] <tehm0nk> can i do something like "sudo kate blabblah" to open it
[01:01] <Pete_^> if you are reading kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf will do fine
[01:01] <tehm0nk> nosrednaekim: that for my setup is what cause SO many problems
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: ah...
[01:01] <tehm0nk> i use "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[01:01] <Pete_^> to write use kdesudo
[01:01] <tehm0nk> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:02] <tehm0nk> Argh if i click a link...
[01:02] <tehm0nk> it just sits there and does nothing.
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: what just sits there.
[01:02] <tehm0nk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48960/
[01:03] <tehm0nk> it opens a window that says "loading progress"
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: oh.....
[01:03] <Pete_^> So you have two 8600 gt's?
[01:03] <tehm0nk> yup
[01:03] <tehm0nk> and 2 of the same LCD monitors
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> that makes things easier I would think
[01:04] <Pete_^> It helps I suppose, but it doesn't really matter
[01:05] <Pete_^> Just a question, are these cards in a SLi configuration?
[01:05] <tehm0nk> the connector is connected but no it's not enabled
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> you can do SLI and dualhead at the same time?
[01:05] <tehm0nk> that is enabled through drivers anyways
[01:05] <Pete_^> I don't think so?
[01:05] <tehm0nk> nosrednaekim: No.
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: I'd remve the cable....
[01:06] <tehm0nk> i didn't know that till i had installed it...
[01:06] <Pete_^> sadly you can't use twinview (so thats proper acceleration down the drain..)
[01:06] <tehm0nk> nosrednaekim: dont need to, Drivers enable it
[01:06] <tehm0nk> pete what do you mean?
[01:06] <tehm0nk> if i use xinerama can i still?
[01:06] <Pete_^> twinview works with the binary nvidia driver, and one card
[01:06] <tehm0nk> right
[01:07] <Pete_^> You can with xinerama, but performance is degraded
[01:07] <tehm0nk> but i mean compiz works on the other monitor too
[01:07] <tehm0nk> but the biggest thing is i'd like to be able to Drag things to the other monitor
[01:08] <Pete_^> You will be able to with xinerama
[01:08] <tehm0nk> but if i lose all kinds of performance... i'll just open the other stuff over there lol
[01:10] <tehm0nk> pete do you use that kdesudo nvidia-settings method?
[01:11] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: I have a pretty complicated setup, two graphics cards, three monitors, so no.
[01:11] <Pete_^> Try this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48963/
[01:11] <Pete_^> make sure to have a copy of the working one
[01:11] <Pete_^> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working
[01:11] <Pete_^> in a terminal
[01:11] <tehm0nk> right i have a copy already
[01:12] <tehm0nk> question
[01:12] <tehm0nk> is that extra monitor in there neccessary?
[01:12] <tehm0nk> "Generic Monitor"
[01:12] <tehm0nk> and "Default Screen"
[01:13] <Pete_^> I think you could remove the monitor identifed by "Generic Monitor", although I think you may be missing a section Screen0
[01:14] <Pete_^> Infact I'm talking rubbish
[01:14] <Pete_^> Its there, I just didn't see it for some reason
[01:14] <tehm0nk> ok lemme restart X
[01:14] <Pete_^> remember how to fix it if X doesn't start
[01:14] <Pete_^> too late..
[01:15] <Downix_SPARC> anyone familiar with adding new options to a configure script?
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: uhh oh.... taking a while...
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> <_<
[01:17] <Pete_^> I was thinking the same
[01:17] <Pete_^> I should have explained how to copy it BACK too
[01:17] <Pete_^> hopefully he has another machine at his disposal
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> mmhm
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: I think he does from my previous experience w/him
[01:18] <Pete_^> Thats something atleast
[01:19] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: I take it that didn't work.
[01:20] <tehm0nk> it worked
[01:20] <tehm0nk> but
[01:20] <tehm0nk> i dont know what you changed? lol
[01:20] <tehm0nk> and i have this weird thing happening...
[01:20] <tehm0nk> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/iRm0nk/?action=view&current=whatthe.jpg
[01:20] <tehm0nk> there is this weird adept updater thing popping up sorta when i login
[01:21] <Pete_^> are your windows meant to have that funky boarder?
[01:21] <tehm0nk> that icon is Normally on the taskbar on the bottom right...
[01:21] <Pete_^> shadow kinda thing.
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: you using compiz?
[01:21]  * nosrednaekim didn't look at the SS
[01:21] <Pete_^> Sure looks like it to me
[01:21] <tehm0nk> i dont know if it's supposed to be Blue like that completely
[01:21] <tehm0nk> yes Compiz
[01:22] <Pete_^> I didn't even know Compiz was working with Xinerama yet, last I checked it totally died
[01:22] <tehm0nk> hmm
[01:22] <Pete_^> It did work a long long time ago
[01:22] <tehm0nk> right now xinerama is enabled
[01:22] <tehm0nk> but...
[01:22] <tehm0nk> i've got two x screens still...
[01:22] <Pete_^> and you are unable to move stuff between them?
[01:23] <tehm0nk> nope lol
[01:23] <tehm0nk> Oh but i'm still lost on that adept notifier, and why it's there...
[01:23] <tehm0nk> not on the bar...
[01:24] <Pete_^> I think Compiz is to blame
[01:24] <Downix_SPARC> ATI or nVidia?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thats certain;y a compoz problem
[01:24] <tehm0nk> !compiz
[01:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:24] <Pete_^> Nvidia
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> try restarting the kicker
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> to fix those icons
[01:24] <Pete_^> Do you have a Wacom tablet or am I free to remove them?
[01:25] <Downix_SPARC> it looks like the same error I got with an older ATI driver
[01:25] <Pete_^> "dcop kicker kicker restart" for reference
[01:25] <Downix_SPARC> was a mix-up between the driver and DRI turned out
[01:25] <sub[t]rnl> also I've noticed if you start another app that uses the system tray, when its icon pops up, the others will go in place
[01:25] <tehm0nk> remove them
[01:25] <sub[t]rnl> like kwalletmanager or something
[01:25] <Pete_^> (I do have a Wacom tablet, so they came in handy infact ;) )
[01:25] <tehm0nk> i just turned Off Compiz :(
[01:26] <tehm0nk> how do i make it Not startup with login tho?
[01:27] <sub[t]rnl> compiz? remove it from the ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory
[01:28] <tehm0nk> sub[t]rnl: where is that?
[01:28] <tehm0nk> lol
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: onless you messed with your .xsession
[01:28] <Pete_^> Another revision
[01:28] <Pete_^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48965/
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: how did you get it to autostart?
[01:28] <sub[t]rnl> tehm0nk➜ your home dir
[01:28] <sub[t]rnl> cd ~/.kde/Autostart/
[01:29] <sub[t]rnl> that is if you created a startup script in there
[01:29] <sub[t]rnl> if your session is just reloading it, go to system settings -> advanced -> session manager and turn it off
[01:30] <tehm0nk> whats the command to delete something?
[01:30] <Pete_^> rm
[01:30] <sub[t]rnl> rm
[01:30] <sigma> has anyone here used filezilla in kubuntu?
[01:30] <tehm0nk> ok got that gone lemme paste that pastebin lol
[01:31] <Pete_^> remember, if you get stuck hit ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:31] <Pete_^> I just got worried last time ;)
[01:33] <tehm0nk> brb
[01:34] <tehm0nk> same thing
[01:34] <tehm0nk> but it fixed that stupid adept notifier thing
[01:34] <tehm0nk> maybe cause compiz is gone but still
[01:34] <Pete_^> My cpu seems to sit around 30-35°C with just a case fan, with a fan on the cooler it drops to around 20°C, I can't decide if its worth it. It would let me run the case fan a bit slower..
[01:34] <Pete_^> Yes, it will be because compiz is gone
[01:35] <tehm0nk> which i think that problem is fixable
[01:35] <tehm0nk> but still can't drag things across screen
[01:35] <Pete_^> It should be
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: what CPU us that?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> via?
[01:35] <sigma> Pete_^: the cooler the better:)
[01:35] <tehm0nk> two servers still
[01:36] <sigma> Pete_^: yeah what cpu is that, its extremely cool
[01:36] <Pete_^> can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log please, its un /var/log/.
[01:36] <Pete_^> Intel Q6600.
[01:36] <Pete_^> ;)
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: underclocked?
[01:36] <Pete_^> Nope
[01:36] <Pete_^> Just a massive cooler
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> wow!
[01:36] <sigma> Pete_^: is that new or old?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> sigma: very new
[01:37] <Pete_^> New(ish), 2.4ghz quad core
[01:37] <Pete_^> New to me, yesterday
[01:37] <lovedeatm> in terminal i typed in mount /media/sda1 /dev/sda/ and i get specify filesystem type how do i do this properly?
[01:37] <Pete_^> lovedeatm: -t filesystem
[01:37] <sigma> Pete_^: how on earth did u manage that temperature!
[01:37] <tehm0nk> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> lovedeatm: #1... you have the two options witched
[01:37] <sigma> intels are known for overheating
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> lovedeatm: #2, you have to say "/dev/sda2"
[01:37] <tehm0nk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48966/
[01:38] <Pete_^> sigma: with one of these : thermaltake ifx-14
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> sigma: I think you are thinking of pentium fours
[01:38] <lovedeatm> pete_^, could you show me how to type it peroperly
[01:38] <sigma> yeah but whats the diff with the new ones?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> sigma: big difference.
[01:38] <Pete_^> lovedeatm: mount -t xxxx /dev/sda1 /mount/point
[01:39] <Pete_^> what format is the disk you are trying to mount? Is it windows?
[01:39] <sigma> time for me to go to another intel conference, seems alot has changed
[01:39] <lovedeatm> pete_^, xxx being the file type
[01:39] <Pete_^> Huge difference with core 2
[01:39] <lovedeatm> ntfs...
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: probably no need for the -t stuff, he had the options in the wrong order, and wasn't pointing to an actual partition
[01:39] <Pete_^> well, more core
[01:39] <sigma> Pete_^: but do the quad cores work properly in kubuntu?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> sigma: course!
[01:40] <Pete_^> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mount/point  to create the mountpoint do sudo mkdir /mount/point -p   (Where the mount point is where you wish to create it!)
[01:40] <Pete_^> As said, you might not need -t ntfs
[01:40] <Pete_^> Yes, it seems to be working fine
[01:41] <Pete_^> I'd rather have gone for one of the Phenoms, but with the TLB bug I had to pass sadly
[01:41] <Pete_^> (As I was not waiting any longer for a new system)
[01:41] <sigma> 4 proc's in one, thats just too tempting! a bit out of my price range though, suppose my amd64 will have to do for now
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: just need a patched kernel ;)
[01:41] <sigma> Pete_^: Phenoms?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> sigma: quad-core AMDs
[01:42] <tehm0nk> brb again...
[01:42] <Pete_^> sigma: The new AMD processors, not on performance par with the latest intels, but the 9600 is with the q6600, and its a true quad core
[01:42] <tehm0nk> is there a command for terminal to restart X?
[01:42] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:42] <sigma> nosrednaekim: yea i heard about them, apparently amd changed the socket completely
[01:42] <Pete_^> although that won't work if the terminal is inside X
[01:42] <Jay-Oh-En> nosrednaekim: i saw one online for 4000 what a rip! i could build my own for cheaper
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> sigma: nope, still AM2
[01:43] <Pete_^> AM2+ processors will work in AM2 motherboards, just not to their full extent
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Jay-Oh-En: yeah... high end gaming is best home-built
[01:43] <sigma> nosrednaekim: yea that one, i thought they were still on 939
[01:43] <Jay-Oh-En> nosrednaekim: thats what i do :[ but not anymore since i run linux
[01:43] <Pete_^> I just made a big mistake with the motherboard
[01:44] <Jay-Oh-En> sigma: thats the chipset
[01:44] <sigma> but amd always has been winning the heat war and especially where i live its important to have a cool cpu
[01:44] <Pete_^> Haha, look at the latest FX CPU;s
[01:44] <sigma> Pete_^: What did u do?
[01:44] <Pete_^> CPU's
[01:45] <Pete_^> sigma: I got a P35 chipset'd board, I hadn't realised you needed a nforce chipset board to do SLi..
[01:45] <tehm0nk> OK... got xinerama working
[01:45] <tehm0nk> and one big desktop
[01:45] <Eroick> How do I get my widescreen working and the res higher in KDE? I think taht the vesa driver isnt cutting it. my card is an ATI Radion Xpress 200
[01:45] <tehm0nk> but theyre backwards! lol
[01:45] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: Great! What did you change?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> haha... FX's :D
[01:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Eroick: your on a compaq?
[01:45] <Eroick> Jay-Oh-En: acer.
[01:45] <Pete_^> tehm0nk: Change the line like "Screen0" leftOf "Screen1"
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: supposedly nuveau will allow you to do SLI on any chipset
[01:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Eroick: oh ok
[01:46] <Pete_^> to either be the other way round, or change leftOf to rightOf
[01:46] <Eroick> Jay-Oh-En: is compaq even around anymore?
[01:46] <Jay-Oh-En> yeah
[01:46] <Pete_^> nosrednaekim: I'll have to take a look
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: what model?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: I have an acer.
[01:46] <Eroick> nosrednaekim: Of acer? Aspire something
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Pete_^: well, it can't do it yet. but its planned.
[01:47] <tehm0nk> brb again lol
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: ok, well, you will probably need the fglrx driver, get it with the restricted-manager tool
[01:47] <Pete_^> I have to use the nvidia beta driver anyway, the G92's aren't supported under the latest stable yet
[01:47] <Pete_^> nosrednaekim: Ah, ok.
[01:48] <tehm0nk> tadaaaa!
[01:48] <tehm0nk> OK must go get food with gf
[01:48] <tehm0nk> dont ever get between women and food...
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: so its working?
[01:49] <tehm0nk-g0ne> lolyeah
[01:49] <tehm0nk-g0ne> it's working jus fine
[01:49] <tehm0nk-g0ne> now
[01:49] <tehm0nk-g0ne> brb tho
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | Pete_^
[01:49] <ubotu> Pete_^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[01:49] <Pete_^> Hurray
[01:49] <Pete_^> I will have to keep an eye on nouveau
[01:51] <Eroick> why doesn't kubuntu have the Restricted Driver manager built in?
[01:51] <ardchoille> Eroick: Are you running Gutsy?
[01:51] <Eroick> Fiesty
[01:51] <Pete_^> It does, but only in Gusty
[01:51] <ardchoille> Eroick: It's new in Gutsy
[01:52] <Eroick> ah
[01:52] <Eroick> which is 8.?
[01:52] <Pete_^> 7.10
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: get the ubuntu version, works fine "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[01:52] <ardchoille> no, 7.10
[01:52] <Pete_^> Curent stable release
[01:52] <Pete_^> Current*
[01:52] <ardchoille> Pete_^: It comes with a spellchecker too
[01:52]  * ardchoille ducks
[01:53] <Eroick> ah, this was installed with Wubi
[01:53] <Pete_^> Its turned off by default in Kopete though, and breaks if you turn it on as it tries to replace the html code ;)
[01:54] <Eroick> anyway, ive gotta restart x now, bye
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Restricted Driver Manger can be found in Add Remove Programs
[01:56] <BluesKaj> err Manager ...guess i've got Christmas Nativity scenes on my mind :)
[01:57] <Eroick> anyway, i tried that driver
[01:57] <Pete_^> http://www.thermalright.com/a_images/pic/ifx-14.jpg there is the CPU cooler if anyone is interested
[01:57] <Eroick> but it creates a black screen with some black bars (slightly brighter) that jump around
[01:58] <Eroick> and i have to CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE out
[01:58] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: !!!!
[01:58] <Pete_^> (So its not thermaltake as I said earlier, its thermalright, thermaltake makes thermal paste, my bad.)
[01:59] <Pete_^> I'm still wrong there
[01:59] <Eroick> ok, now i get a crosshatching patter
[01:59] <Pete_^> Thermaltake made my last cpu cooler, just ignore me.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: ok... no kde though?
[02:00] <Eroick> nope
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> Eroick: did you reboot?
[02:01] <Eroick> nope.
[02:01] <Eroick> just did an x restart
[02:01] <Eroick> ah, its a kernel thing
[02:01] <Eroick> brb....
[02:20] <sMonk> Is there a way to install RealPlayer?
[02:22] <ardchoille> !realplayer | sMonk
[02:22] <ubotu> sMonk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <BluesKaj> sMonk, at the realplayer site there's a download for linux
[02:24] <Tm_T> good morning/day/evening ardchoille BluesKaj and others
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hey Tm_T
[02:25] <sMonk> yeah, it's a .bin .. I never have luck installing them
[02:27] <sMonk> If I could get some help installing the .bin file, then that'd be ok
[02:28] <bazhang> sMonk: there are instructions at the site
[02:29] <sMonk> oh
[02:29] <sMonk> ok
[02:32] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T...sorry was getting some juice
[02:34] <BluesKaj> sMonk,in the terminal , cd to the file dir , then ./filename.bin
[02:34] <Downix_SPARC> does anyone know what bin format Ubuntu SPARC is in?
[02:35] <Downix_SPARC> ELF?
[02:42] <sMonk> BluesKaj: Yeah I did that once, and it put the install dir on my Desktop
[02:46] <BluesKaj> sMonk, normally installs go to your /home/yourusername dir if you leave it as default
[02:47] <BluesKaj> err downloads , not installs
[02:49] <dero> How do you cut something out with the path tool in gimp?
[02:49] <dero> Anyone in here?
[02:51] <Downix_SPARC> yup
[02:59] <DDR> We're here, we just have no idea how to do what you want to do.
[03:01] <Downix_SPARC> I'm just trying to figure out how to add another CPU target to a configure script
[03:01] <bazhang> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Drawing_Shapes/ dero
[03:01] <sMonk> OK, I installed the .bin file for RealPayer, AKA Helix, but every time I try to play a movie, it tells me a "Bad Transport" error
[03:01] <flaccid> think deror went to get some methyl
[03:02] <flaccid> sMonk: did you google that error?
[03:02] <bazhang> oops
[03:02] <bazhang> joins/exits not visible here ;}
[03:02] <flaccid> dang
[03:04] <Downix_SPARC> this is perplexing
[03:05] <Downix_SPARC> I've mirrored the other CPU's in the list, yet it still cannot figure out a SPARC
[03:05] <flaccid> not sure if anyone here can help on that Downix_SPARC
[03:05] <flaccid> even i don't compile much
[03:06] <Downix_SPARC> not enough apps compiled for SPARC, so need to roll my own
[03:07] <flaccid> what sort of device is it, a desktop computer?
[03:07] <Crankymonky> What is a good CPU speed and temp applet for KDE?
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Crankymonky: ksysgaurd will do it fine
[03:08] <Downix_SPARC> flaccid:  low level workstation.
[03:08] <Crankymonky> nosrednaekim, Thanks
[03:08] <Downix_SPARC> flaccid: also have a desktop and a server model handy as well, but using the ws for the port
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Crankymonky: cept' a spelled that wrong
[03:09] <sMonk> how do I make sure that FireFox is trying to use the correct plugin?
[03:09] <sMonk> for RealPlayer
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> about:config
[03:09] <sMonk> I went through something sim with MPlayer,
[03:10] <flaccid> cooolio. i bbs
[03:10] <Crankymonky> nosrednaekim: that's cool.  Any good dictionary applet for KDE?  That was by far the coolest thing ever in gnome.
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> Crankymonky: probably.
[03:12] <Downix_SPARC> ./configure: line 8604: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:12] <Downix_SPARC> ./configure: line 8604: `  echo $ECHO_N "(cached) $ECHO_C" >&6'
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> The line:
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> ./configure: line 8604: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> ./configure: line 8604: `  echo $ECHO_N "(cached) $ECHO_C" >&6'
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> grr
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> The line:  { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: result: $MMAKE" >&5
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> Downix_SPARC: people at #linux might know more
[03:13] <Downix_SPARC> good point
[03:13] <Xbehave> ive installed through wubi, and only about half my boots leave me in a workable enviroment, the rest leave me with a useless x and ttys that die if i switch out of them
[03:14] <Tm_T> Xbehave: wubi?
[03:15] <cloneyin> hello
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Xbehave: yeah, well, Wubi isn't officialy supported AFAIK
[03:15] <cloneyin> I have a question
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: installation from within windows
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: ask :D
[03:15] <Tm_T> I thought so
[03:15] <cloneyin> thanks
[03:15] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: it isn't supported
[03:17] <Xbehave> once im in kubuntu its like a kubuntu system tho. how do i go about finding the cause of problems?
[03:18] <cloneyin> I have HD,its a sata and the filesystem is Fat 32 but no OS installed just data and movies I ripped, the hard drive is from WD and the eclosure i got for it is called Nexstar 3 and able to just pkug in the system on USB ports, but when iplug it in my ubuntu system ,italunches the pop-up window to open in another windows but it never does, do i need filesystem uspport for it installed support for fat32
[03:18] <cloneyin> ?
[03:18] <Tm_T> it's supported
[03:19] <cloneyin> the window never comes up
[03:19] <cloneyin> like my sony 4gb flash drive
[03:19] <cloneyin>  i plug into the usb port, it works
[03:19] <Tm_T> cloneyin: open konqueror and go media:/
[03:19] <cloneyin> but never does with the hard drive
[03:19] <cloneyin> ok, let me try that
[03:19] <cloneyin> thanks
[03:19] <Tm_T> np
[03:20] <alcor> help！！！ use eeePC???
[03:20] <Tm_T> !helpme | alcor
[03:20] <ubotu> alcor: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[03:20] <cloneyin> nothing in the media, only cdrom0
[03:20] <sMonk> Thanks all, got RealPlayer workign
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> great sMonk!
[03:20] <Tm_T> cloneyin: and HD is plugged in?
[03:21] <cloneyin> yeah , the HD is plugged in
[03:21] <Tm_T> cloneyin: interesting
[03:21] <cloneyin> on usb port
[03:21] <alcor> Please,help me
[03:21] <sMonk> I found my problem.. I didn't sudo ./RealPlayer I just ./RealPayer.. so I needed to install as root
[03:21] <Tm_T> cloneyin: unplug, open Konsole, plugin and run dmesg
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: what does "dmesg tail 10" say?
[03:21] <cloneyin> I tell you, it launches the pop-up window saying eopn it onanother window andafew other choices
[03:21] <cloneyin> ok,let me try that
[03:21] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: heh, like to "take him" ?
[03:21] <Crankymonky> nosrednaekim: Is there an option I'm missing that let's the CPU temp be shown in the applet of ksysguard
[03:21] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I'm bit busy
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: fo shizzle
[03:22] <hydrogen> thats not englishizzle
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> !sensors | Crankymonky
[03:22] <ubotu> Crankymonky: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:22] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I take that as yes, soo, thanks ;)
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> :D
[03:22] <alcor> Please,help me how to use KDE4 RC2 .iso
[03:22] <Crankymonky> nosrednaekim: Much appreciated
[03:22] <cloneyin> when IM pkug into the usb port, it ask me to open in new window or open with digikam or do nothing
[03:23] <Crankymonky> alcor, burn the iso
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> alcor: on a eeepc? do you have an external cd drive?
[03:23] <Tm_T> alcor: don't yell "help me", just state your issue clearly, and wait.
[03:23] <Crankymonky> burn the image contained in the iso
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: and what do you say?
[03:23] <alcor> i en not good!
[03:23] <cloneyin> http://rapidshare.com/files/77656667/The.Invasion.PROPER.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT.part6.rar
[03:24] <cloneyin> sorry
[03:24] <cloneyin> [ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:24] <cloneyin> I get that on dmesg
[03:24] <alcor> nosrednaekim, i not cd drive
[03:24] <cloneyin> [ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> alcor: then its going to be very very difficult
[03:24] <ardchoille> alcor: What is your native language?
[03:24] <cloneyin> Tm_T, that is what I got
[03:24] <cloneyin> should i mount it?
[03:24] <hamadooo> bacj
[03:24] <BluesKaj> sacktime , nite all
[03:24] <hamadooo> back
[03:24] <cloneyin> or its mounted already
[03:24] <alcor> ardchoille, i use cn
[03:25] <ardchoille> !cn
[03:25] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: thats it?nothing above that... no its not mounted if thats all.
[03:25] <hdevalence> cloneyin: if dmesg is giving you rapidshare URLS there's something wrong with your computer :P
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> haha
[03:25] <ardchoille> lol
[03:25] <hamadooo> guy's in windows i used to use a program calls ares for downloading files and songs
[03:25] <hamadooo> i want to do that in ubuntu is there any program like that plz
[03:25] <alcor> ubotu, that nobody use KDE4
[03:25] <cloneyin> hd, sorry the one I pasted was myprevious thing in the clipboard
[03:25] <ardchoille> !bot | alcor
[03:25] <ubotu> alcor: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:26] <cloneyin> [ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:26] <ardchoille> hamadooo: kget is a nice download manager
[03:26] <hamadooo> ard .. download manger like kaza and ares ????
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> hamadooo: are you talking torrents?
[03:26] <Tm_T> ...
[03:26] <Tm_T> !warez
[03:26] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:26] <hamadooo> no no .... ares and kaza are different from torrent
[03:26] <ardchoille> hamadooo: You need to remember, this is Linux, it's a whole different world. You may need to change some of the things you've done in the past.
[03:27] <alcor> ardchoille, i want run iso bat install it
[03:27] <ardchoille> alcor: You need to burn the iso file as an image to a blank cd then boot fro it.
[03:27] <hamadooo> yeah i know ard .. but it must be any program like that
[03:27] <cloneyin> [ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:27] <dsmith> Where is a good place to start for whle disk encryption for Linux?
[03:27] <hamadooo> downloading like kaza
[03:27] <Tm_T> hamadooo: see what ubotu said
[03:27] <cloneyin> how do i mount this?
[03:27] <dsmith> *whole
[03:27] <hamadooo> they ignore me all the time
[03:27] <hdevalence> alcor: since the eeePC has no CD drive, you need to use a USB key
[03:28] <Tm_T> !warez | hamadooo
[03:28] <ubotu> hamadooo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:28] <hamadooo> i did change the brightness of my laptop and that's cool
[03:28] <cloneyin> [ 4147.925693] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb
[03:28] <cloneyin> [ 4147.925753] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[03:28] <hamadooo> oh ok
[03:28] <hamadooo> sorry
[03:28] <Tm_T> np
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: could you pastebin the last 100 or so lines of dmesg?
[03:28] <ardchoille> hamadooo: How long did it take you to install kubuntu?
[03:28] <cloneyin> how can i mount this?
[03:28] <Tm_T> cloneyin: no need to repeat :-P
[03:29] <cloneyin> sorry
[03:29] <hamadooo> i didn't download kubuntu i still use ubuntu
[03:29] <ardchoille> hamadooo: Then you really need to be in #ubuntu
[03:29] <alcor> hdevalence, yes i have one 1G usb key.but i not how to do!
[03:29] <Theverant> anyone here Avidemux?  I want to import multiple images and I need a way to do many at once, instead of one at a time.  Any ideas?
[03:29] <hamadooo> i don't know what's wrong with them they keep ignore me
[03:29] <hamadooo> anyways thanx
[03:30] <flaccid> cloneyin: hal should pop up and ask you
[03:30] <flaccid> otherwise do sudo fdisk -l to see the device name for the partition in questin and then see !fstab and !ntfs on how to mount manually
[03:30] <cloneyin> it does,I chose Open inNew         window  but it never opens it
[03:30] <cloneyin> I amstill waiting
[03:30] <hdevalence> alcor: let me look into it
[03:30] <flaccid> might be something wrong with that part/fs. see if it is mounted in mount
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: pastebin your dmesg please..
[03:31] <cloneyin>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:31] <cloneyin> /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:31] <cloneyin> it sees it
[03:31] <cloneyin> hmmm
[03:31] <cloneyin> dmesg
[03:32] <cloneyin>  4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:32] <flaccid> pastebin | cloneyin
[03:32] <cloneyin> [ 4147.910734] sdb: Write Protect is off
[03:32] <cloneyin> [ 4147.910740] sdb: Mode Sense: 38 00 00 00
[03:32] <cloneyin> [ 4147.910744] sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[03:32] <flaccid> !pastebin > cloneyin
[03:32] <hdevalence> alcor: http://trenteee.blogspot.com/2007/12/howto-install-ubuntu-on-eee-pc-with_10.html
[03:32] <cloneyin> [ 4147.911733] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
[03:32] <flaccid> please learn pastebin first cloneyin
[03:32] <flaccid> danke
[03:33] <alcor> hdevalence, i can open it
[03:33] <alcor> hdevalence, i can't open it
[03:37] <Xbehave> Tm_T: torrent and kaza arnt neciserilly warez they can be used to exchange data thatslegl too
[03:37] <alcor> hdevalence, i can't open http://trenteee.blogspot.com/2007/12/howto-install-ubuntu-on-eee-pc-with_10.html
[03:37] <Tm_T> Xbehave: I know
[03:37] <Tm_T> Xbehave: I didn't say he is talking about anything illegal, did I?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> kubu does releases via torrents
[03:38] <hdevalence> alcor:it works for me. are you in mainland china?
[03:39] <alcor> hdevalence, mainlan china?
[03:39] <flaccid> i wonder what those eee are like. is that the asus one is it?
[03:40] <Tm_T> asus yes
[03:40] <hdevalence> alcor: is it possible it could be blocked by the chinese government?
[03:40] <alcor> hdevalence, what is mainland china?
[03:40] <flaccid> sweet
[03:40] <Kubuntu_M> hello!!!
[03:40] <Kubuntu_M> anybody?
[03:40] <Kubuntu_M> need help here
[03:41] <flaccid> anybody what
[03:41] <Tm_T> !helpme | Kubuntu_M
[03:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu_M: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[03:41] <hdevalence> alcor: all of china except for hong kong
[03:41] <Tm_T> !patience | Kubuntu_M
[03:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu_M: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:41] <cloneyin> ok I already pastebin the dmesg
[03:41] <cloneyin> can someone please check
[03:41] <cloneyin> thanks
[03:41] <flaccid> thats not what i asked cloneyin
[03:41] <somekool> Hi there.
[03:41] <somekool> I am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin: sorry! I have to go!
[03:42] <Kubuntu_M> what apt can you suggest to record a video online?
[03:42] <flaccid> check mount and see if its mounted or not
[03:42] <Kubuntu_M> that works like a snapshot
[03:43] <alcor> hdevalence, maybe
[03:43] <cloneyin>  ityped mount and it does not show sdb
[03:43] <hdevalence> alcor: the chinese government blocks stuff like blogs. maybe that is why it does not open
[03:44] <Kubuntu_M> cloneyin: try using ntfs-3g
[03:44] <Kubuntu_M> !repeat
[03:44] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:45] <Kubuntu_M> what apt can you suggest to record a playing video that works like a snapshot?
[03:45] <alcor> hdevalence, how to do whit me?
[03:46] <Tm_T> Kubuntu_M: you are repeating, you notice?
[03:46] <flaccid> cloneyin: i don't know what your problem is. mount it manual.
[03:46] <Kubuntu_M> im sorry
[03:46] <cloneyin> how to mount it
[03:47] <flaccid> i showed you before
[03:47] <flaccid> [14:30] <flaccid> otherwise do sudo fdisk -l to see the device name for the partition in questin and then see !fstab and !ntfs on how to mount manually
[03:47] <cloneyin> it sees the drive by fdisk
[03:47] <flaccid> you can read the guides to learn how to mount in fstab
[03:48] <Kubuntu_M> !fstab
[03:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:48] <flaccid> !ntfs
[03:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[03:48] <flaccid> thats a better guide
[03:49] <cloneyin> thanks
[03:49] <hdevalence> alcor: I can email you the instructions
[03:49] <flaccid> np
[03:54] <alcor> hdevalence, my email :alcor_yy@hoymail.com
[03:58] <sMonk> Ok, how do I chage FireFox to use the mplayer instead of VLC?
[03:59] <hdevalence> alcor: did you get the email
[04:00] <alcor> hdevalence, seeing
[04:03] <hdevalence> alcor: I have to go, sorry. I hope the thing I gave you helps.
[04:05] <Ose> In Dolphin I keep getting "Unable to save bookmarks... Permission denied" Says most likely cause is a full HD but I have plenty of free space.
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[04:06] <FatalError> maybe the permissions/ownership are wrong on your config files/directory?
[04:06] <Ose> When I first got the error, it was completely full, if that makes a difference.
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> Ose➜ try sudo chown yourusername .kde/shares/apss/d3lphin/bookmarks
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> try sudo chown yourusername .kde/shares/apss/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> even
[04:08] <Ose> Yay! Thanks.
[04:09] <flaccid> or sudo chown -R `whoami` ~/.kde/shares/apps/d3lphin
[04:09] <Ose> Ah I know who I am :P Not *that* new.
[04:09] <flaccid> hehe. i guess it just makes it a nice generic command :p
[04:10] <Ose> Mm. How about transparency.. Is it supposed to only show the background through the window?
[04:12] <hydrogen> its supposed to make the window transparent
[04:12] <hydrogen> allowing anything behind it to show through
[04:13] <Ose> That's what I thought.. It just shows the background. Windows are hidden.
[04:13] <hydrogen> are the windows behind it or are they minimized?
[04:14] <Ose> They're straight behind it.
[04:16] <cloneyin> flaccid, from konqueror  desktop ,  i clicked on /mnt folder it says i  have no permission
[04:16] <cloneyin> Isuccessfully mounted it
[04:16] <cloneyin> but not allowing sudo
[04:16] <cloneyin> only root
[04:16] <cloneyin> so i did su
[04:16] <cloneyin> then go to /mnt
[04:17] <cloneyin> and I can access the hd but only interminal
[04:17] <cloneyin> how can I change to root from konquesror
[04:18] <flaccid> did you read the doc properly. show me your fstab entry
[04:25] <wwbwwb> hello
[04:25] <wwbwwb> 大家好
[04:25] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How can I see the make and model of my motherboard and video card?
[04:25] <wwbwwb> 啊哈哈
[04:26] <alcor> wwbwwb, 你好！
[04:26] <wwbwwb> 你好，没想到还有懂中文的 呵呵
[04:27] <bazhang> !cn | wwbwwb
[04:27] <ubotu> wwbwwb: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[04:28] <wwbwwb> thanks ubotu
[04:28] <bazhang> snowdonkey: lspci for video card
[04:31] <cloneyin> flaccid, it does not show on fstab
[04:32] <cloneyin> however i did mtab andit shows there
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> snowdonkey➜ maybe kinfocenter in the kmenu for your motherboard
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> snowdonkey➜ or sudo dmidecode
[04:32] <snowdonkey> bazhang: Thanks, I found it that way.
[04:32] <flaccid> cloneyin: read the guide!!
[04:32] <cloneyin> flaccid, on mtab /dev/sdb /mnt ntfs rw 0 0
[04:32] <flaccid> it tells you how to do it in fstab
[04:33] <flaccid> yeah sdb is the drive not the partition...
[04:33] <snowdonkey> sub[t]rnl: Ok, looking through dmidecode now
[04:33] <flaccid> so maybe you want /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mountpoint ntfs rw 0 0
[04:33] <flaccid> you don't want to mount to /mnt either...
[04:33] <flaccid> you need to create a mount point
[04:34] <flaccid> you might also want user mount. /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mountpoint ntfs user,rw 0 0
[04:34] <cloneyin> also shows this /dev/sdb /mnt/sdb1 ntfs rw 0 0
[04:34] <flaccid> thats not going to work either. delete them.
[04:34] <cloneyin> on mtab
[04:34] <cloneyin> but I can connect to it as su
[04:34] <flaccid> delete them from mtab and do it properly in fstab as per the guides and what i said
[04:34] <cloneyin> I am copying movies now
[04:35] <flaccid> thats because you need the user option, cloneyin to do user mounts.. also the mountpoint needs perms suffice for the user
[04:35] <snowdonkey> sub[t]rnl: Would the motherboard be "Base Board Information"?
[04:35] <flaccid> learning to user mount is far better than just doing root.
[04:35] <cloneyin> ok, need to elarn this one
[04:35] <sub[t]rnl> snowdonkey➜ yup
[04:35] <cloneyin> learn*
[04:35] <snowdonkey> sub[t]rnl: Awesome, thanks a lot.
[04:36] <cloneyin> cat /etc/fstab
[04:39] <se7en> i need help how do i fix this ... kdebase-runtime-bin: Depends: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (= 4:3.97.0-1ubuntu5~gutsy1~ppa1) but it is not installed
[04:41] <se7en> somebody know how to fix unmet dependencies
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:45] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: i tried that ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> se7en: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f
[04:46] <se7en> thanks sub[t]rnl that worked
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> np
[04:52] <Xbehave> i have a blacklisted ati driver should i try using compiz anyway?
[04:53] <dr_willis> I would say No.
[04:53] <dr_willis> :)
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, you can un blacklist it
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> and try
[04:54] <Xbehave> is it that bad worse than beryl days?
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> not sure what you mean by bad worse
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> edit /usr/bin/compiz and add ati to WHITELIST=
[04:57] <lukosanthropos> Hi
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> Greetings lukosanthropos, Welcome to #Kubuntu
[04:57] <lukosanthropos> I was wondering if anyone could tell me where i can go to set file associations
[04:57] <Tm_T> Konqueror has them in its settings
[04:58] <Tm_T> other place is kcontrol atleast
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> kcontrol -> KDE components -> file association
[04:58] <lukosanthropos> cool
[04:58] <lukosanthropos> Thanks
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> or as Tm_T said, settings:/ in konq
[05:01] <Xbehave> how do i find out my driver version?
[05:01] <lukosanthropos> I prefer the kcontrol method I knew it was there i couldnt remember its name coz its 5am
[05:02] <lordofthepigs> hello! Is there any way to install ubuntu on a machine that has no CD player, no floppy drive, cannot boot from USB, has no network adapter but already has windows on it?
[05:02] <lordofthepigs> It sound a bit hard to me, but I was wondering anyway
[05:02] <devinus> is there a kde ogg theora converter?
[05:03] <lordofthepigs> I was thinking of not using the ntloader but rather something like grub4dos
[05:03] <alcor> hdevalence, r u here?
[05:05] <hdevalence> alcor: yeah, but I have to go to bed in about 5 minutes.
[05:07] <dr_willis> !install
[05:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:07] <sparr> im trying to run an app with mono, its complaining about System.Drawing being missing, then throwing a sigsegv.  I have libgdiplus installed.  Help?
[05:08] <hdevalence> is there a kubuntu netinst cd?
[05:08] <alcor> hdevalence, now?
[05:08] <dr_willis> hdevalence:  i think there is.  But ive never really looked into it. :)
[05:08] <alcor> hdevalence, i send email to you
[05:09] <hdevalence> alcor: Can I help you tomorrow?
[05:10] <alcor> hdevalence, ok! you can send email to me
[05:10] <Crankymonky> !sensors | Crankymonky
[05:10] <hdevalence> alcor:thanks, I have to go to bed.
[05:16] <cloneyin> how can I initiate my fstab without a reboot?
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mount -a
[05:18] <cloneyin> I just modified my fstab and need to test it without a reboot
[05:18] <cloneyin> is that it?
[05:18] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[05:19] <cloneyin> thanks
[05:19] <cloneyin>  I still do not have access rights to which I  mounted
[05:20] <cloneyin> shoud I include uams ot fstab?
[05:20] <cloneyin> umask
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> make sure you have rights to the mount points
[05:21] <flaccid> you want to user mount
[05:21] <flaccid> so its just mount /mnt/point
[05:21] <flaccid> if you get an error, show me
[05:21] <cloneyin> i used /home/cloneyin as my mount point
[05:21] <cloneyin> is that bad?
[05:21] <flaccid> as i said make sure you have ownership/rights on the mount point
[05:21] <flaccid> no its not bad
[05:22] <flaccid> so when you do mount /home/cloneyin
[05:22] <flaccid> what is the result
[05:22] <cloneyin> actially /home/cloneyin/Desktop
[05:22] <flaccid> and also show me the fstab entry for that mount point
[05:22] <cloneyin> Isee theusb icon
[05:22] <cloneyin> onthe desktop
[05:22] <flaccid> do not mount to your desktop!
[05:22] <cloneyin> but it is licked
[05:22] <cloneyin> locked
[05:22] <cloneyin> ok
[05:22] <cloneyin> sorry
[05:22] <cloneyin> let me try again
[05:23] <cloneyin> so with desktop is bad
[05:23] <flaccid> the icon on your desktop is usually a shortcut..
[05:23] <cloneyin> ok, let me do it again
[05:23] <flaccid> yes you create a mount point and change its perms as i advised earlier
[05:23] <cloneyin> damn I am actually learnign fstab now
[05:23] <cloneyin> thansk to you flaccid
[05:23] <cloneyin> thanks
[05:23] <flaccid> its important, because linux/hal is still not reliable and user mounts are only done by hal in that respect by default
[05:24] <dr_willis> fstab and how things mount - is a top 10 to learn item :)
[05:24] <dr_willis> I still need to make that list.. someday
[05:25] <dr_willis> Grub, Mounting items,  lets see what else.. how to manully check filesystems..
[05:25] <flaccid> yeah and in my opinion there should be frontends to these in the distro
[05:25] <flaccid> there still isn't
[05:25] <cloneyin> i see
[05:26] <flaccid> nothing that is smoothly integrated/in base
[05:26] <dr_willis> actually i thought there was one.. but i always edit my fstab with vi.  So its no matter to me.
[05:26] <cloneyin> you are also right flaccid
[05:26] <cloneyin> I clicked on that usb icon, it just shows my desktop with konqueror
[05:27] <cloneyin> it became a shortcut after I unmonted it
[05:27] <flaccid> hal attempts most of it but is not consistant i guess
[05:27] <flaccid> cloneyin: you might wanna do what i suggested
[05:27] <flaccid> that usually helps
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> fstab is the front end!
[05:28] <flaccid> fstab is the configuration file. a frontend abstracts the user from it
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> configuration files = linux
[05:28] <flaccid> nah
[05:28] <flaccid> unix
[05:28] <stacey> how do i completly disable the system buser
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[05:28] <flaccid> stacey: what is the system buser?
[05:29] <flaccid> :p
[05:29] <sub[t]rnl> he's the fat guy who picks up and drops off processes
[05:29] <sub[t]rnl> and is always late
[05:29] <flaccid> oh that dude
[05:29] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[05:29] <sub[t]rnl> +1 bad joke
[05:29] <dr_willis> I thought he cleard the tables and picked up the tips.
[05:29] <flaccid> hes pretty fat
[05:29] <flaccid> lol
[05:30] <sub[t]rnl> dr_willis➜ lol, +2 for you
[05:30] <flaccid> nah thats called a pissed dbadmin
[05:31] <stacey> erm the beep noise that gets triggerd by system bell (i disabled it in kde but compiz likes using it)
[05:31] <flaccid> is this in konsole, stacey?
[05:32] <stacey> no compiz uses it whenever you do something wrong
[05:32] <flaccid> if so goto settings | bell and choose your desired option
[05:32] <flaccid> oh really
[05:32] <flaccid> um. in that case perhaps you can mute it in kmix or alsamixer. not sure why its doing that. is it pc speaker or the soundcard?
[05:33] <flaccid> you can change sound/schemes in kcontrol if its the scheme doing it with a wav
[05:33] <stacey> its the internal speaker not anythng alsa uses
[05:35] <stacey> nvm kde had changed a setting but left a checkbox unticked
[05:37] <flaccid> ok cool
[05:38] <dr_willis> xset b 0 0 0      - will also kill off a lot of  beeps in xterm, and other apps.
[05:39] <dr_willis> there may be some other xset command that does the same thing. :) i jsut rember 0 0 0 because its 3 #'s that set the freq/duration/Pitch or somthing.. of the bell. :)
[05:39] <stacey> thx thats what i was looking for
[05:41] <TerminalVelocity> i've just upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 and really like what i see...however, i'm trying to change the hostname of my box and running into some trouble
[05:42] <TerminalVelocity> i'm unable to change the hostname of the box without kde freezing up on me during initialization...i think it has to do with my Nvidia card settings
[05:42] <TerminalVelocity> anybody had this problem?
[05:51] <cloneyin> flaccid, i did it with umask=0000
[05:51] <cloneyin> as an option on fstab
[05:51] <cloneyin> thanks
[05:52] <cloneyin> flaccid, thanks
[05:53] <cloneyin> so when mounting a hd, you need to mount the partition or depends on mtab after you connect the hd on usb
[05:55] <cloneyin> and I can use konqueror to open it
[05:55] <cloneyin> damn this is awesome
[05:56] <cloneyin> what's next?
[06:05] <cloneyin> what is the command line to monitor cpu usage?
[06:05] <XceII> htop
[06:08] <XceII> behaves
[06:10]  * genii sips
[06:10] <XceII> hey gen
[06:10] <Xbehave> why is ccsm being awkward with my super key
[06:11] <Tm_T> hi genii and XceII
[06:11] <XceII> hey T
[06:11] <genii> Hi XceII and Tm_t
[06:13] <genii> sorry to sip n run but need reboot :)
[06:18] <Ose> I broke Amarok.. It'll open and play the current playlist, but if I try to restore it (To see it) it'll crash.
[06:20] <cumulus> Does anyone know what would cause my sound to not work?
[06:20] <cumulus> I have just installed Kubunt 7.10 Gutsy Giben, with the CD, but my sound is not working
[06:20] <posingaspopular> !sound | cumulus
[06:20] <ubotu> cumulus: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:20] <cumulus> It was working on the LiveCD though
[06:21] <posingaspopular> cloneyin: top
[06:21] <posingaspopular> or htop
[06:21] <Ose> Cumulus: If that doesn't work, install alsa-utils.
[06:21] <posingaspopular> for cpu usage
[06:22] <cloneyin> thanks
[06:22] <cumulus> I should read the websites first? (sound system is checked)
[06:23] <cloneyin> posingaspopular, thanks
[06:23] <cloneyin> htop is better than top
[06:23] <zenobius> any reason why servicemenus are only providing said menu for the actual desktop file that defines said service menu ?
[06:23] <cloneyin> thanks Xcell
[06:23] <cloneyin> I apprecite the help
[06:24] <cloneyin> # kubuntu rocks!!!
[06:24] <zenobius> i am referring to the service menu on kdelook for encfs
[06:24] <ardchoille> How do I open a new tab in konsole from the keyboard?
[06:25] <zenobius> same thing is happening with the ffmpeg conversion service menu....infact any custom service menu i define in ~/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[06:25] <posingaspopular> ardchoille: ctrl+shift N
[06:25] <zenobius> ctrl + t
[06:25] <ardchoille> posingaspopular , zenobius Neither of those work here
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> fn + right arrow?
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> not sure if mine is custom
[06:26] <zenobius> its actuallydefines in yiour shortcuts dialoge for konsole
[06:26] <zenobius> alt + ctrl + n
[06:26] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: fn?
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> the "window" key thing
[06:27] <ardchoille> alt + ctrl + n did it, thank you zenobius
[06:27] <zenobius> ardchoille: you can change it in the menus there
[06:27] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: Tore that silly thing off my kb long ago :)
[06:27] <zenobius> i used tuprs on it
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[06:27] <zenobius> turps*
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille➜ its usefull as hell, another key to map shortcuts too, without using a two key combination
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille➜ plus, compiz uses it everywhere
[06:28] <zenobius> so anyone been able to make custom service menus that *work*
[06:28] <ardchoille> zenobius: D'oh, I feel stoopid now, it's in Settings > Configure Shortcuts
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> newp! but I installed some customs that work nice
[06:29] <ardchoille> Don't get me started on compiz, lol
[06:29] <zenobius> the ones im dropping in ~/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ will only show up in my right click menu if i right click on the actual .desktop file that defines the service menu
[06:29] <ardchoille> zenobius: I write service menus
[06:31] <ardchoille> zenobius: pastebin the service menu and I'll take a look.
[06:31] <ardchoille> !paste
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <cumulus> Woohoo, It is solve now, thank you Ose and posingaspopular
[06:32] <cumulus> solved*
[06:32] <zenobius> ima using pastebinit from the repos
[06:33] <posingaspopular> np cumulus
[06:33] <posingaspopular> enjoy your kubuntu install
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/convert.desktop
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> real handy if you like to burn dvd's
[06:33] <cumulus> I'll enjoy even more my sound :D
[06:33] <posingaspopular> ardchoille: in konsole? i tried it and that that worked
[06:34] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: Tried what?
[06:35] <zenobius> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/824906
[06:36] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: Did you write that yourself?
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> negative
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> not sure where it came from, I've had it for a while
[06:37]  * sub[t]rnl sucks on his teeth
[06:37] <ardchoille> zenobius: pastebin.ca won't open
[06:37] <zenobius> ardchoille: ahh ctrl shift n just made me a new console session ....very odd
[06:37] <Ose> Amarok keeps crashing the moment I load it (Only after I added my large collection)
[06:37] <zenobius> ose: proly some file is not standard format
[06:38] <zenobius> ose : which may be causing it to trip over
[06:38] <zenobius> ose: just awild guess
[06:38] <Ose> zenobius: It's handled these before. I added them all, had it organize them, and moved them. Then changed the collection directory and.. This.
[06:39] <zenobius> ose: not sure, im very keen on listen
[06:39] <ardchoille> zenobius: You have ServiceTypes=inode/directory so that should only work on directories
[06:39] <zenobius> this is what i want
[06:39] <zenobius> ardchoille: but tit doesnt even do that
[06:39] <Ose> zenobius: Hmm. I'll try to get foobarclone working again. Never liked it much, anyway.
[06:40] <zenobius> ose: i just like using folders to organise my stuff, rather tahn double handling with itunes style dbase and metadata tags
[06:40] <ardchoille> zenobius: So it doesn't show up when you right click a directory?
[06:40] <zenobius> ardchoille: npe
[06:40] <zenobius> oddly, it only appears in the right click menu on the tat one file..
[06:40] <Ose> zenobius: I had that, but accidentally partitioned over these. When recovered they all had number-names.. Thankfully my ID3 tags allowed me to resort them.
[06:41] <zenobius> ardchoille: here is the servicemenu for my ffmpeg too,, same problems
[06:41] <zenobius> http://paste.stgraber.org/
[06:41] <zenobius> gah
[06:41] <zenobius> ardchoille:  http://pastebin.ca/824911
[06:42] <ardchoille> zenobius: Try taking out the submenu instruction and try.. some service menu items don't play well with X-KDE-Submenu=blah
[06:42] <zenobius> okies
[06:43] <Xbehave> emerald came with no themes :(
[06:43] <zenobius> Xbehave: its in another package mon
[06:43] <zenobius> Xbehave: most proly emerald-themes
[06:44] <zenobius> Xbehave: can grab heaps more from gnome-look.org or kdelook.org
[06:44] <zenobius> ardchoille: removing that submenu bit didnt changes things
[06:45] <Xbehave> in gutsy there is no emerald-themes
[06:46] <zenobius> the submenu did work when i  right click on the .desktop file but now  that i have removed the submenu definition line, as expected the submenu is not there anymore, and the two subitems are now on the top level action tier
[06:46] <ardchoille> zenobius: Try adding this line just above the Submenu line:  X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel
[06:46] <zenobius> but this only occurs on the desktop file that defnies the entry for encfs
[06:46] <ardchoille> zenobius: iirc, if you use Submenu you have to also use X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel
[06:48] <zenobius> still nothing
[06:48] <ardchoille> :(
[06:48] <zenobius> any packages i might have missed maybe?
[06:49] <zenobius> this was a gnome desktop to start with then i apt-get install kdedesktop
[06:49] <ardchoille> Not if your other service menus work
[06:49] <intelikey> !emerald
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <zenobius> none of my customs ones do
[06:49] <posingaspopular> ardchoille: i was refering to alt+shift+n for konsole
[06:49] <ardchoille> zenobius: Wait, you installed kdedesktop and not kubuntu-desktop?
[06:49] <intelikey> !theme
[06:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:49] <zenobius> ardchoille: mmmm maybe it needs to go in the dolphin folder too?
[06:50] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: only ctrl+alt+n works here.. weird
[06:50] <ardchoille> zenobius: Are you using dolphin?
[06:50] <zenobius> ardchoille: i used the all encompassing meta package
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> !info emerald-themes
[06:50] <ubotu> Package emerald-themes does not exist in gutsy
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> !find emerald-themes
[06:50] <ardchoille> zenobius: That was kubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <ubotu> Package/file emerald-themes does not exist in gutsy
[06:50] <zenobius> ardchoille: just konqueror at the momento
[06:50] <stdin> sub[t]rnl: it's not in ubuntu, you have to get it via svn
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, well its in my repo's
[06:50] <zenobius> ardchoille: so im good with packages and all
[06:51] <ardchoille> zenobius: What is the path to your custom service menus?
[06:51] <zenobius> ardchoille: /home/zenobius/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[06:52] <zenobius> ardchoille: in there i have two files, ffmpeg-convert.desktop & 57086-encfs.desktop
[06:52] <ardchoille> zenobius: That's not the correct path, they should be in /home/zenobius/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus  you've left out the "share"
[06:52] <cloneyin> i have 4gb of memory installed, does ati radeon X800 256M accumulating my memory?
[06:53] <zenobius> ardchoille: well... this maybe easier than i thought
[06:53] <ardchoille> cloneyin: It should be using the memory on the vid card itself
[06:53] <cloneyin>  damn about 1gb?
[06:53] <ardchoille> cloneyin: That's the point of drivers, to take the load off the CPU
[06:53] <cloneyin> is htop just new?
[06:53] <zenobius> no
[06:53] <zenobius> been round loooong time
[06:53] <cloneyin> i remember top is what I use
[06:53] <cloneyin> really
[06:53] <romunov> i've installed compiz and open office is causing "problems" :/
[06:53] <zenobius> yurp
[06:54] <cloneyin> i like htop better than top
[06:54] <romunov> has anyone had any experience with compiz/emerald?
[06:54] <zenobius> i use screen then i run jnettop and htop and bmon
[06:54] <cloneyin> not I should use this
[06:54] <cloneyin> if i have 16-way, it will show 16 procs,right?
[06:54] <XceII> what is jnettop
[06:54] <zenobius> i use screen becuase those others are run on remote server, i only wnat to ssh once
[06:54] <ardchoille> !compiz | romunov
[06:54] <ubotu> romunov: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:54] <zenobius> its like htop but for net traffic
[06:54] <cloneyin> now quad-core isout
[06:55] <cloneyin> it shoudl show 32 procs
[06:55] <XceII> ah think ill take a look/ tx
[06:56] <cloneyin> Xcell, looking
[06:56] <cloneyin> actually fetching it from the server now
[06:56] <XceII> me 2
[06:56] <intelikey> cloneyin the memory usage is probably not what you think.      actual used memory      free | grep -- -/+ | cut -b20-30
[06:56] <XceII> brb
[06:56] <ardchoille> zenobius: They working now?
[06:56] <zenobius> most excellent
[06:56]  * zenobius does a jig
[06:56] <cloneyin> jnettop, you need the hwaddress
[06:57] <zenobius> sudo jnettop -i eth0
[06:57] <cloneyin> ok
[06:57] <cloneyin> let me try that
[06:57] <zenobius> i like cli for monitoring apps that also feed out data logs i can use with timeplot from mit
[06:57] <cloneyin> guys, jnettop is kool
[06:58] <cloneyin> thanks zenobius
[06:58] <ardchoille> Now you got me interested in jnettop
[06:58] <cloneyin> does red hat distro or fedora or centos or even suse have this utility?
[06:58] <zenobius> if your suing it on remote machines, aka via ssh...have a look at using screen...its like workspaces for the cli without having to login mulitple times
[06:58] <zenobius> using*
[06:59] <XceII> Now thats cool.
[06:59] <cloneyin> yeah!
[06:59] <ardchoille> cloneyin: Most likely
[06:59] <cloneyin> damn, does not even know this
[06:59] <cloneyin> I am getting into linux
[06:59] <zenobius> jnettop has been round since warty i think
[06:59] <XceII> thx Z
[06:59] <ardchoille> zenobius: screen+irssi+mutt+elinks+mc rocks
[06:59] <cloneyin> been playing around with rhl4 as 64-bit
[06:59] <cloneyin> and suse 9es 64-bit
[07:00] <cloneyin> my employer sell barebone stuff and wants me to engage in linux
[07:00] <XceII> do it
[07:00] <XceII> Rob bill gates
[07:00] <cloneyin> so now i am trying to learn openmpi
[07:00] <zenobius> if anyone like rtorrent, and wants a script to read the session data into a status html page, then rtorstats is the way to go
[07:00] <cloneyin> well we sell HPC systems
[07:01] <cloneyin> and univ and gov usually the biggest customer
[07:01] <cloneyin> so  I learned linapck,HPLbenchmark
[07:01] <cloneyin> gaussian
[07:01] <zenobius> bill has xbox, so even if weindows goes under....
[07:01] <lufthanza> can anyone help me with flash in konqueror?
[07:01] <cloneyin> charmm
[07:01] <cloneyin> and all the good benchmarks
[07:01] <XceII> Dont forget the key loggers on the govs stuff
[07:01] <cloneyin> yeah
[07:01] <ardchoille> XceII: lol
[07:01] <cloneyin> well my job is to make sure the system runs those
[07:01] <zenobius> lufthanza: have you installed any flash player yet?
[07:02] <cloneyin> big problems are ths amd architectures and bios
[07:02] <lufthanza> zenobius: I installed flashplayer manually, and it runs in firefox
[07:02] <zenobius> lufthanza: ok, at this point you want to open the config for konqueror
[07:02] <intelikey> does gparted do ntfs ?   i mean can you create ntfs with it ?
[07:02] <cloneyin> i did flash intallation manually through firefox laso
[07:02] <zenobius> intelikey: you would not want to count on it
[07:03] <zenobius> lufthanza: then got tplugins
[07:03] <lufthanza> problem is, in konqueror, nsplugin will crash and burn when it comes into contact with swf content
[07:03] <intelikey> zenobius but it can make ntfs ?
[07:03] <zenobius> lufthanza: and click the 'scan for plugins' button
[07:03] <cloneyin> amd architecture for HPC so far, the manufacturer implimentations are two so far
[07:03] <zenobius> intelikey: proly, but i think you will want ntfs-3g package
[07:03] <cloneyin> either ladder design or cross design
[07:03]  * LimCore bitchalps kde for making annoying sounds
[07:04] <cloneyin> and bios is hard to map the nodes and the apic support
[07:04] <zenobius> lufthanza: oh, sorry my ability ends here
[07:04] <lufthanza> zenobius: well, thanks anyway
[07:04] <cloneyin> so sometimes, when  i run linpack, it only assign jobs to certain nodes
[07:04] <cloneyin> then customer complains
[07:04] <cloneyin> so .....
[07:04] <XceII> eek
[07:05] <cloneyin> now i am damn learning linux
[07:05] <XceII> You will be better off
[07:05] <cloneyin> I can give you ssh access to the machine
[07:05] <cloneyin> I have to set it up
[07:06] <cloneyin> its an 8-way mahchine but installed dual-cores so total of 32 cores
[07:06] <XceII> cool
[07:06] <cloneyin> and supports 256Gb of memory
[07:06] <cloneyin> its a cool mchine
[07:06] <XceII> I want 1..
[07:06] <XceII> no 2
[07:06] <cloneyin> but mostly tax apyers buys them like University
[07:06] <cloneyin> hehe
[07:07] <cloneyin> its selling for 5k but re-seller install or config it with so much max out config and sell it for 45k
[07:07] <XceII> wow
[07:07] <cloneyin> basrebone is 5k price
[07:07] <cloneyin> if you are re-seller
[07:07] <lufthanza> flash spits out this error when trying to load stuff in konqueror: "Adobe Flash Player: gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY); failed. Trying to call gtk_init(0,0);"
[07:08] <cloneyin> you can configure it with quad-cores, highest speed available ,4 Gb modules per slot total of 256, SAS and infiniband
[07:08] <cloneyin> you can sell it for 55k tops
[07:08] <cloneyin> and configure linux with vmware installed
[07:09] <cloneyin> taht is it,customer just install thier apps
[07:09] <LimCore> is ubuntu by nerds for nerds?  or do we aim to make user friendly system?
[07:09] <cloneyin> like Gaussian or X-Riemann or charmm
[07:10] <cloneyin> irhgt now we are developing 4 boards, dual-socket Intel
[07:10] <cloneyin> total of 32 cores also
[07:10] <cloneyin> all SMP through software
[07:10] <cloneyin> connected on infiniband internal switch board
[07:10] <ere4si> !ot | cloneyin
[07:10] <ubotu> cloneyin: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:10] <cloneyin> thanks
[07:11] <cloneyin> sorry about  that
[07:11] <cloneyin> got carried away
[07:11] <ere4si> k
[07:14] <lufthanza> is there a way to pull an older version of a package from apt? or can you only get the newest version?
[07:14] <cloneyin> which is the best linux utility to monitor the io of hard drives?
[07:15] <cloneyin> the b/w actually
[07:15] <stdin> lufthanza: "sudo apt-get install <package>=version"
[07:15] <LimCore> cloneyin: well  xmon something works
[07:15] <intelikey> lufthanza you can specify the version in the name
[07:15] <lufthanza> stdin: thanks
[07:15] <LimCore> or was it  xos
[07:15] <LimCore> xosview?
[07:15] <cloneyin> let me check
[07:15]  * intelikey tips hat to stdin
[07:15] <ardchoille> cloneyin: I use gkrellm for that
[07:15] <cloneyin> thanks LimCore
[07:15]  * stdin waves back to intelikey
[07:15] <cloneyin> thanks ardchoille
[07:15] <LimCore> cloneyin: that app is primitive;  but u can also check the sources
[07:16] <cloneyin> thanks LimCore
[07:17] <lufthanza> stdin: how do I list the available package versions?
[07:17] <Xbehave> compiz-fusion isnt using my super key shortcuts, any ideas how to fix this|
[07:18] <stdin> lufthanza: you can have a look at "apt-cache policy <package>" but that only shows versions from different repositories. other than that you'll just have to look in the archive (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu )
[07:18] <ardchoille> cloneyin: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gkrellmdz8.png
[07:23] <cloneyin> ardchoille, never version I suppose
[07:23] <cloneyin> thanks
[07:23] <ardchoille> cloneyin: never version?
[07:23] <cloneyin> newer
[07:23] <cloneyin> sorry
[07:23] <fsckr> what is in the DVD version of Kubuntu?
[07:23] <ardchoille> Ah, it';s the one from the gutsy repos
[07:24] <ardchoille> fsckr: the dvd is a compilation of the alternate install cd, the desktop live cd and the server cd
[07:24] <Xbehave> dont suppose anybody knows where i can get snow textures for compiz-fussion
[07:24] <fsckr> oh ok thx ardchoille
[07:24] <fsckr> Xbehave, i found some by searching the ubuntuforums.org
[07:25] <zenobius> cloneyin: nice graphing thing for use in webpages : http://simile.mit.edu/timeplot/docs/
[07:25] <fsckr> im going back to bed have a good night
[07:25] <XceII> nite
[07:25] <ardchoille> Xbehave: http://gnome-look.org/  has a nice compiz theme section
[07:25] <cloneyin> zenobius, this is nice
[07:25] <cloneyin> thanks
[07:26] <cloneyin> Xcell, goodnight
[07:26] <cloneyin> see ya soon
[07:26] <zenobius> having used gnomes metacity for while, then aso compiz..i was quite surprised at waht kwin can do with out compositing
[07:26] <XceII> not me  fsckr.lll
[07:26] <XceII> lol
[07:27] <cloneyin> oh fsckr, goodnight
[07:27] <cloneyin> sorry about that
[07:27] <cloneyin> I like the timeplot though
[07:27] <zenobius> just need to start sorting out some cronjobs that output compatibale data logs
[07:27] <ardchoille> zenobius: You need to have a website and put all your tips & tricks there
[07:27] <posingaspopular> how do I remove the chan. topic from the top of konversation?
[07:27] <XceII> I vote 4 that.
[07:28] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: drag it up
[07:28] <ardchoille> I only know that because I did it accidentally once, lol
[07:29] <zenobius> ahh it drags up to the last line then 'resists' till about 10px from the line
[07:29] <zenobius> re: chan topic in knoversation
[07:29] <ardchoille> yeah
[07:29] <zenobius> neat
[07:30] <zenobius> timeplot with kdewebdesktop would be the way to go i think
[07:31] <zenobius> as an alternative to grellkrem...
[07:31] <zenobius> not as nice on cpu though
[07:32] <ardchoille> The thing I like about gkrellm is I rarely see my desktop, too many windows open, and you can drag gkrellm around
[07:32] <zenobius> yeah lightwieght impact is the highest priority
[07:33] <zenobius> nothing like monitoring the weight of an ant whilst standing on the scales
[07:33] <intelikey> speaking of.   how to get thermal to work on a pentium coper mine ?
[07:33] <ardchoille> hehe
[07:34] <cloneyin> trying to install real player and it outputs to this
[07:34] <cloneyin> ./realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:34] <cloneyin> intelikey, what do u mean thermal?
[07:35] <cloneyin> should I install glibc-devel?
[07:35] <intelikey> cloneyin the core temp info.  the kenrel module "thermal" is inserted but the info is not in /proc
[07:36] <intelikey> cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory <<<
[07:36] <cloneyin> coretemp module
[07:36] <unix_infidel> can anyone point me to the path of least resistance for using 2 screens with an ATI card without having to setup ATI drivers?
[07:36] <intelikey> hmm looks like acpi is the missing dir
[07:37] <intelikey> i'm going to guess i need acpi support
[07:37] <cloneyin> could be
[07:38] <zenobius> unix_infidel:  it really depends on your video card
[07:38] <zenobius> unix_infidel: mine is a ati radeon 9600, rv350
[07:38] <unix_infidel> zenobius: it's an ati card.
[07:38] <unix_infidel> its a 9600 mobile.
[07:39] <zenobius> unix_infidel: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[07:39] <cloneyin> which package do I need to install Real player
[07:39] <cloneyin> ./realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:39] <zenobius> unix_infidel: and the results of : lspci
[07:39] <unix_infidel> zenobius: i'm not on that box right now.
[07:39] <ardchoille> !realplayer | cloneyin
[07:39] <ubotu> cloneyin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <zenobius> unix_infidel: k, i'll dig up the wiki page i used
[07:40] <zenobius> unix_infidel: and i m using fesity not gutsy
[07:40] <unix_infidel> zenobius: how long did it take, from t0
[07:40] <unix_infidel> zenobius: i'm guessing their going to be similar.
[07:41] <zenobius> unix_infidel: waht you will be doing is duplicating the device, screen, monitor sections to define your second output chain
[07:41] <zenobius> and inserting some flags theat turn on the xinerama abilities of our cards
[07:42] <zenobius> unix_infidel: and im not using binary drivers either ....at least im pretty sure im not
[07:42] <unix_infidel> zenobius: so about an hour :-P
[07:43] <zenobius> unix_infidel: on the outside, if things dont get exotic
[07:43] <zenobius> unix_infidel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:45] <intelikey> can a coper mine even report the temp ?
[07:45] <intelikey> copper
[07:46] <ardchoille> intelikey: Perhaps google would know?
[07:46] <intelikey> ardchoille i'd try it if i had too   ;/
[07:46]  * intelikey grumbles and opens another console    "sense nobody knows"...
[07:58] <intelikey> hmmm i've inserted everything in the acpi coloumn and still /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty
[08:04] <wesley> hello need to fix adept
[08:04] <komputernerd> whats wrong with it?
[08:04] <wesley> database closef
[08:04] <wesley> closed
[08:04] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix | wesley
[08:04] <ubotu> wesley: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:04] <komputernerd> nice
[08:04] <komputernerd> check out the big brain on brad
[08:07] <posingaspopular> hey all im trying to install virtualbox in kubuntu gutsy and I keep getting this error in my /var/log/virtualbox-install.log file about a kernel module not compiling correctly: Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.
[08:07] <komputernerd> curious .. why virtualbox over vmware?
[08:07] <posingaspopular> vmware was a pain to install
[08:07] <wesley> wheres compiz fusion to?
[08:07] <intelikey> install the kernel source   or at least the kernel headers
[08:08] <posingaspopular> but then again, so was virtualbox
[08:08] <posingaspopular> intelikey: the linux source 2.6.22?
[08:08] <intelikey> yep
[08:08] <posingaspopular> i already did
[08:08] <intelikey> headers ?
[08:08] <posingaspopular> that im not so sure
[08:09] <posingaspopular> one sec while i check
[08:10] <cowlikk> can anyone help me
[08:10] <intelikey> build-essential should pull in the linux-headers   but it may not.     "should is an openion"
[08:10] <intelikey> cowlikk yes  the restroom is >>> over there
[08:10] <sigma> has anyone tried the asus eee pc on kubuntu?
[08:10] <komputernerd> really .. i always thought vmware was easy to install
[08:11] <komputernerd> well .. unless you were on x86_64
[08:11] <komputernerd> then it was a pain until you knew what you were doing
[08:11] <cowlikk> i cant get my resolution to change after installing nvidia driver
[08:11] <posingaspopular> yea he headers are installed. build-essential is also installed
[08:11] <cowlikk> anyone up for the challenge
[08:11] <komputernerd> sudo nvidia-settings
[08:11] <wesley> can someone tell me where compiz fusion is ? its not more in adept
[08:12] <intelikey> posingaspopular hmmm.    you did untar the linux source didn't you ?   check in /usr/src and see
[08:13] <intelikey> !find compiz
[08:13] <ubotu> Found: compiz-bcop, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, libcompizconfig-backend-gconf, libcompizconfig0 (and 15 others)
[08:13] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48998/
[08:14] <cowlikk> 640x480 is still as high as it will go
[08:15] <intelikey> sudo tar -xjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2
[08:17] <sub[t]rnl> cowlikk➜ tried using nvidia-settings?
[08:17] <sub[t]rnl> cowlikk➜ or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:17] <sub[t]rnl> be sure to backup your /etc/xorg.conf
[08:17] <posingaspopular> okay now it's just kind of sitting in the terminal, not doing anything
[08:18] <cowlikk> i still will have the nvidia driver right cause i want the 3d effects is the whole reason behind all this
[08:18] <sub[t]rnl> cowlikk➜ yes, the -phigh just sets resolutions in your xorg.conf, it wont query you to change anything else
[08:18] <posingaspopular> okay right intelikey, now the file is untarred
[08:20] <intelikey> posingaspopular so run the "make" again like it sujested
[08:22] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl -phigh doesn't restrict what the command does.  it restricts the priority of question the user is trubbled with.
[08:23] <intelikey> i.e.  -plow will ask the user many questions and -phigh will ask few  but both will adjust all the settings.
[08:23] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ ah, thanks
[08:23] <sub[t]rnl> I thought it simply set resolutions, thats it
[08:23] <intelikey> nope.
[08:23] <TheFallenOne> i am having some trouble with my wifi on Kubuntu 7.10. I can see the network and connect but i cannot access any web pages. I have a Linksys WMP54G wifi card (chipset RaLink RT2561/RT61)
[08:23] <TheFallenOne> can anyone help
[08:24] <posingaspopular> well... Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.
[08:24] <TheFallenOne> I have taken some screen shots of the browser and ifconfig as well as the interfaces file
[08:24] <TheFallenOne> to help
[08:24] <posingaspopular> TheFallenOne: what have you done after you connect?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> just ifconfig?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> try 'sudo dhclient'
[08:24] <TheFallenOne> ok
[08:24] <posingaspopular> that's usually what i do when im having connection issues
[08:25] <cowlikk> still cant get higher than 640x480
[08:26] <intelikey> posingaspopular hmmm  try telling it the dir you unpacked in ?    but i thought that /usr/src was about as default as you could get in linux....         you might look more closely at the output and make sure that something else is not failing first     i have seen that happen a few times.    with not so well written makefiles
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[08:26] <sub[t]rnl> cowlikk➜ pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:26] <sub[t]rnl> greets AP
[08:26] <posingaspopular> hey ActionParsnip
[08:27] <cowlikk> haha how do i do that
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> hey sub[t]rnl posingaspopular
[08:27] <sub[t]rnl> !paste
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:28] <TheFallenOne> hey! ActionParsnip
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> hey TheFallenOne
[08:30] <intelikey> if i want to delete the files in a dir that is too full,  what would be the "easy way" ?
[08:30] <AzAel> heres one..... i just aquired one of those dell usb hub keyboards however my usb key is ignored when i plug it in. lsusb lists the device but fstab -l does not
[08:30] <posingaspopular> hmm intelikey, you're talking above my pay grade ;p
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, do you want to delete the entire folder?
[08:31] <posingaspopular> rf the directory i think
[08:31] <sub[t]rnl> rm -r dir/ will remove the directory and all the files in it.
[08:31] <posingaspopular> but I that's a dangerous command
[08:31] <intelikey> ActionParsnip no just the normal files   not subdirs
[08:31] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl not subdirs
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, you can use sudo rm <folder name>
[08:31] <cowlikk> maybee i need to restart
[08:32] <cowlikk> i pasted it
[08:32] <intelikey> if it wasn't to full i'd just use   rm /path/*
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, it wil remove the files and leave the folder structure
[08:32] <AzAel> so is dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda.....dangerous command that is
[08:32] <intelikey> ActionParsnip no it's too full
[08:32] <posingaspopular> okay hmmm
[08:32] <intelikey> bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[08:32] <posingaspopular> im going to try just rebooting and see if that changes my VM in any way, shape or form
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, you could use sudo rm -rf <folder>; mkdir <folder>
[08:32] <intelikey> AzAel not if you intend to wipe the hard drive
[08:33] <AzAel> lol
[08:33] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ rm -r removes subdirectories too
[08:33] <TheFallenOne> ok i'm still having the wifi issues. i've tried adding auto wlan0 to the interfaces and restarting but no go.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, remove, recursive and force. it will also remove the folder
[08:33] <intelikey> ActionParsnip that would lose the subdirs and their content
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, so recreate afterwards
[08:33] <TheFallenOne> makes no since why i can connect to the router with 80% siganl but can't get to the web
[08:33] <AzAel> intelikey: the poor kid that wanted to wipe his usbkey and wiped his hdd
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, you could always use konqueror
[08:34] <TheFallenOne> my buddy right next to me is on his laptop and accessing the net through wifi just fine (windows xp for him)
[08:34] <intelikey> ActionParsnip not desirable.   the content of the subdirs stays.
[08:34] <ardchoille> AzAel: ouch!
[08:34] <TheFallenOne> no firewalls or any security on router so i'm stumped
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, so you want to keep the folders but not the files?
[08:34] <AzAel> sda, sdb.....whatever LOL
[08:34] <intelikey> ActionParsnip that's what i first specified
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, just clarifying. rm -r * should be fine. you can always create a seperate folder and use touch to create some files
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, then try the command
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, ;)
[08:36] <AzAel> anyways how can i mount a usb storage device if its not detected by fstab -l
[08:36] <AzAel> but detected by lsusb
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, what do you get from fdisk -l
[08:37] <intelikey> ActionParsnip lol   create empty files to replace 3g of data  no thanks.
[08:37] <AzAel> only output relating to internal sata and ide drives
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, you misunderstand
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, if you create a folder with subfolders and some files in all the folders (create using touch)
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, you can run any commands you like to test
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, once you are happy with what is happening you can execute it on the actual folder
[08:38] <intelikey> "rm -r * should be fine"  will remove data i don't want removed.   nothing to misunderstand about that.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, think of it like a test
[08:39] <AzAel> intelikey:  usbkey automounts when plugged into any other port except for the ones on this KB
[08:39] <AzAel> oops
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, just a suggestion :)
[08:39] <AzAel> that was directed at ActionParsnip
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, pastebin your fdisk -l please
[08:40] <intelikey> well the easy answer seems to be a loop   for Q in /path/* ;do rm $Q ;done       in that loop bash is not limited like the rm command to a shortened commandline  and it will do what    rm /path/*    can't.
[08:41] <intelikey> if anyone wants to take notes  ^
[08:42] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49000/
[08:42] <AzAel> nice number hehehe
[08:44] <intelikey> two pata disks ?
[08:44] <AzAel> 1xpata 1xsata
[08:44] <intelikey> hmmm and scsi emulation
[08:45] <AzAel> i believe my problem has to do with the dell usb hub keyboard :(
[08:45] <intelikey> what does unpluging and repluging the usb drive say in dmesg ?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, yeah i'd go with that too
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, what model is the keyboard
[08:46] <posingaspopular> hmm im still getting this error: Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.
[08:47] <posingaspopular> how would i run Make again?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[08:47] <intelikey> how did you run it that time ?
[08:47] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: sk-8135 and this is in dmesg ->>> 1210.322805] usb 2-1.2: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[08:48] <intelikey> AzAel ah  ha.   you is correct
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, do you have it plugged in via usb or PS/2?
[08:48] <intelikey> AzAel system says  'no sir'  at the new usb device.
[08:49] <posingaspopular> sudo aptitute install virtualbox-> setup VM with iso for hardy-> launch vm-> get error telling me that the vm module isn't compiled.-> nano /var/log/vbox-install.log
[08:49] <posingaspopular> which gives me that error
[08:50] <intelikey> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:50] <intelikey> should rerun it then
[08:50] <posingaspopular> rerun what now?
[08:51] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: kb is plugged into usb sunshine......usbkey plugged into kb.....and i can remember how to tail dmesg properly
[08:51] <posingaspopular> kernel source and linux-headers-2.6.12-10 as packages are not found when i try to apt-get them
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, cat /proc/bus/input/devices <- can we have a paste of that with the key in and out
[08:52] <intelikey> posingaspopular the preinst or postinst script in /var/lib/dpbk/info/ for that package is running the make on the software.     WOW 2.6.12 ???
[08:52] <intelikey> is that a typo ?
[08:52] <intelikey> uname -r
[08:53] <intelikey> i'm thinking you mean  2.6.21*
[08:54]  * intelikey wonders is posingaspopular's dislexia just caught up wif him
[08:54] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49001/
[08:54] <posingaspopular> 12? ah darnit
[08:55] <intelikey> ;/
[08:55] <posingaspopular> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.21-10
[08:55] <AzAel> Identical
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, got another pc to test it on?
[08:56] <posingaspopular> intelikey: dpbk?
[08:56] <posingaspopular> if i try to nano that file, it shows up empty
[08:57] <AzAel> laptop brb
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, can you suggest for AzAel?
[08:57] <intelikey> drop the -10
[08:57] <intelikey> let me look
[08:58] <cowlikk> can someone help me with when i log out and log back in i just get a peach screen and nothing ever loads. i have to reboot
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, there appears to be 2 entries for the keyboard which is weird
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, lines 34 to 52
[08:59] <posingaspopular> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.21
[08:59] <posingaspopular> still not working
[08:59] <intelikey> AzAel if possable plug the drive into another port dirrectly on the box.
[08:59] <intelikey> ActionParsnip yea i saw that
[09:00] <intelikey> posingaspopular when in doubt    apt-cache search linux-headers
[09:00] <AzAel> intelikey: the challenge is to get the usb key working on the builtin ports on the kb, specificly the reason why i got this particular keyboard
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, it works in a normal usb port (not on the keyboard). Ive got him plugging it into another system to see if its the keyboard thats faulty
[09:01] <AzAel> [ 3407.577619] usb 2-1.3: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power................There is my problem
[09:01] <intelikey> AzAel ok.  then you'll have to boost the power to the keyboard
[09:01] <AzAel> not enough cheese in the tube
[09:01] <intelikey> right
[09:01] <posingaspopular> okay well it seems that i already havet he linux-headers-2.6.22-14 installed
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, ooh do tell how
[09:01]  * ActionParsnip listens intently
[09:01] <posingaspopular> i just have no idea what im supposed to be doing to fix this VM
[09:02] <intelikey> ActionParsnip i didn't say i could do that.    but without boosting the power that isn't going to work.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, how does the keyboard connect to the system? Is there a usb hub involved?
[09:03] <intelikey> posingaspopular normally the error messages "when not viewed as criptic" are very helpful in trubbleshooting a problem.
[09:04] <intelikey> a powered hub would be good.    but i don't recall ever seeing one.
[09:04] <intelikey> posingaspopular do a uname -r for me please
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, do you have a powered usb hub?
[09:05] <posingaspopular> ummm sure if you can give the exact command. im wayy in over my head here ;p
[09:06] <intelikey> uname -r
[09:06] <intelikey> to list the running kernel version
[09:06] <intelikey> to make sure it matches   2.6.22-14
[09:07] <AzAel> this bizarre i tried a differnt usb storage device and it didnt work however on one occasion it picked it up and mounted it automagicly
[09:07] <intelikey> well  2.6.22-14* to be exact
[09:07] <intelikey> AzAel it would every time if the power lever was a little higher at the port your are plugging into
[09:08] <posingaspopular> 2.6.17-12-generic
[09:08] <posingaspopular> which doesn't match ;/
[09:08] <intelikey> posingaspopular there you go   and that's where all your problem has been
[09:08] <intelikey> you need the 2.6.17-12 headers
[09:08] <posingaspopular> bah
[09:09] <intelikey> and possably the  source
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, id sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:09] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: intelikey: connections attempted, kb plugged into onboard usb, unpowered usb hub and alternate usb ports on mobo only had success once with an alternate storage device
[09:09] <posingaspopular> upgrade? im already in gutsy
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, it'll upgrade individual packages from the sources
[09:10] <intelikey> upgrade for the newer kernel version, yes.   and changing kernels will require a reboot too.
[09:10] <intelikey> or install the kernel headers for that kernel and go
[09:11] <cowlikk> why when i log out and back in it wont load anything but a peach color screen
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, unpowered usb hub will not give juice to your keyboard which it needs
[09:11] <intelikey> cowlikk drop to a console and see what's hanging it up
[09:12] <cowlikk> :-D im not that smart intelikey
[09:12] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: only tried it because i had forgotten id lost the powersupply
[09:12] <posingaspopular> hmm how do i get the source and headers for 2.6.17-12
[09:12] <cowlikk> this is like my first 5 hours on linux
[09:12] <AzAel> having fun yet cowlikk??
[09:13] <cowlikk> and it aint been a good 5 hours
[09:13] <cowlikk> lots of freakin thinking
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, so got a different usb key to work or was it a hdd with external power?
[09:13] <cowlikk> and typing
[09:13] <cowlikk> my fingers are sore
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> cowlikk, indeed for now. soon it will work beautifully :)
[09:13] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: cheap generic mp3 player
[09:13] <cowlikk> i know that is why i keep at it
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, with batteries in ?
[09:14] <AzAel> cowlikk: you will look back on it fondly one day
[09:14] <cowlikk> i used to think i was very good with computers.... well thats windows i guess
[09:14] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: no batteries
[09:14] <intelikey> cowlikk ok let me explain how to switch tty's in linux   first of all the default tty for the xserver is tty7   now to switch ttys you press ctrl+alt+f# where the # is the tty number you want.  normally 1 through 6 are login tty's    you can login and run         ps ax       the last few lines of info will be the last processes to start up.  one will be your login shell.  but just above that should be the last thing that x st
[09:14] <posingaspopular> cowlikk: that's a whole different ballgame. ;p
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, well it will have some form of power source
[09:14] <cowlikk> yeah im learning that
[09:15] <AzAel> only worked temporarily
[09:15] <cowlikk> so how do i figure out why it wont log back in after loging out
[09:15] <posingaspopular> i wish i knew how to install those header files/source :(
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, id borrow or steal a powered usb hub and try that. it should work from your onboard though which is weird
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, get the updates
[09:15] <intelikey> cowlikk you find what is hanging it and ask in here probably.
[09:15] <TheFallenOne> i think i've run out of options
[09:16] <cowlikk> how do i find what is hanging it though
[09:16] <AzAel> the usb key does work onboard it also works in the unpowered usb hub
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> TheFallenOne, get googling sir
[09:16] <posingaspopular> i did
[09:16] <intelikey> cowlikk read my long post again  ^
[09:16] <cowlikk> ahh it sliped by me thanks
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, does the keyboard work wih the usb key when its plugged into the onboard?
[09:17] <maria> chat spain¿
[09:17] <TheFallenOne> lol the only thing else i know to do that was suggested was dowloading seamonkey drivers but since i can't put a lan line on that box anytime soon i can't just update it and use the packages
[09:17] <AzAel> keyboard always works
[09:17] <TheFallenOne> and manual install is a killer with dependencies
[09:17] <TheFallenOne> so i guess i'll just wait till i can get a hard line on it
[09:17] <AzAel> where ever i plug it
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, indeed. but thats not the issue right now
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, is the kb plugged into the usb hub?
[09:18] <AzAel> just cant get a usb storage device to work off the kb
[09:18] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: now...no only plugged it in there to test
[09:18] <AzAel> hrmmmm
[09:19] <TheFallenOne> well thanks for everyones help. later.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, ok let me google a bit.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, got anything else usb?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> AzAel, like a bluetooth dongle etc
[09:20] <intelikey> AzAel it's like the little boy sitting on the sidewalk and sturing in a pile of dung, when the sargent walked by and asked him. "son what are you doing?" he said "im making a privet" the sargent asked "why don't you make a sargent?" he replied "cause i don't have enough shit for that"     that's the problem you are having with the key.  not enough ....
[09:20] <posingaspopular> ActionParsnip: what do i do after i get the updates/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, reboot is a good choice
[09:22] <intelikey> no
[09:22] <intelikey> after the upgrade   not the update
[09:22] <posingaspopular> after i sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[09:22] <intelikey> yes after both
[09:22] <intelikey> or should i say when you have dont both of them.
[09:23]  * intelikey hates to point at the reset button any more than need be.
[09:24] <intelikey> ah man sounds like a fire fight.    gota go.
[09:28] <kraut> moin
[09:29] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: ha ha
[09:29] <andrea_> hello guys, i just installed ubuntu on my desktop
[09:29] <andrea_> but I am not getting any audio..
[09:29] <andrea_> Usually audio worked smoothly
[09:29] <jussi01> !sound
[09:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:29] <andrea_> can somebody tell me what should I try out?
[09:29] <AzAel> ActionParsnip: i have also been googleing but all i get is stuff about the volume knob
[09:30] <cowlikk> intelikey still here?
[09:30] <posingaspopular> okay rebooted
[09:30] <posingaspopular> !sound | andrea_
[09:30] <ubotu> andrea_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:30] <cowlikk> anyone help me with login probs
[09:30] <cowlikk> hanging on gnome-screensaver
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> cowlikk, wassup
[09:31] <andrea_> thanks, I will check it
[09:31] <cowlikk> after logging off then back on  i just get a peach screen
[09:31] <posingaspopular> okay ActionParsnip, i got the upgrade, update and reboot down
[09:31] <posingaspopular> now what do i do to get the relevant heard/source files?
[09:32] <cowlikk> so intelikey said to see the last ps ax stuff and the last one was gnome-screensaver
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-hea <press tab>
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cowlikk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207123
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> cowlikk, i'm not the best person to hel pas I disabled mine and I just turn off my monitor :)
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> power saver > screen saver
[09:34] <posingaspopular> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49004/
[09:35] <posingaspopular> i think i need the source first?
[09:35] <cowlikk> haha thanks for the link i will try what they say brb to let you know
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, try using adept and search for source
[09:39] <XceII> Thirsts.
[09:43] <posingaspopular> im seeing the linux source for 2.6.22-14
[09:43] <posingaspopular> and that's it
[09:45] <AzAel> heheheh ok forget that for now, im off to load puppy dsl and hirens on my usb key oh and parted magic
[09:45] <mosiac> anyone here know much about the restricted video drivers for nvidia cards?
[09:45] <cowlikk> computer hangs on -bash anyone help me?
[09:47] <AzAel> cowlikk start from scratch ???
[09:48] <cowlikk> what
[09:48] <cowlikk> whys that
[09:50] <XceII> try booting cd..let run take cd out reboot
[09:51] <AzAel> i was asking if it was an option?
[09:52] <XceII> ah
[09:56] <posingaspopular> ActionParsnip: you still around?
[10:03] <TimS> !dvd
[10:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, sorry
[10:04] <posingaspopular> i did, and all i found was the linux-source for 2.6.22
[10:07] <ubuntu> hello! I'm on the livecd gutsy amd64 and the installation program won't move after I've selected the keyboard layout
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, what kernel you on?
[10:07] <posingaspopular> 2.6.17-12 generic
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17
[10:08] <wesley> where do in get compiz fusion icon?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/linux-source-2.6.17
[10:10] <posingaspopular> E: Package linux-source-2.6.17 has no installation candidate
[10:10] <posingaspopular> should i check my sources.list? i think the edgy source are commented our
[10:10] <posingaspopular> out*
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, i'd try find some additional gutsy repos :)
[10:12] <posingaspopular> i give up and and im going to try vmware again
[10:14] <posingaspopular> thanks for all the help attempts ActionParsnip ;p
[10:16] <ratpoison> hello! If I install ATI 's new fglrx drivers w/ AIGLX support, will I have problems in gutsy?
[10:17] <ratpoison> sorry, badly formed question
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, if you get some more repositorys added to your sources.list
[10:17] <ratpoison> hello! If I install ATI 's new fglrx drivers w/ AIGLX support, will I have problems upgrading from gutsy to hardy?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, you might be able to get the headers
[10:17] <ratpoison> same question applies for KDE 4
[10:18] <posingaspopular> im not sure which repos though
[10:18] <posingaspopular> i can show you my sources.list
[10:18] <wesley> can someone give me the adept fix
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, I'll get you some more repos
[10:20] <wesley> adept is crased and repo is closed please help
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, here is a world of repos. some have links to their authentication keys too :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, http://graymalkin.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/gutsy-repository/
[10:21] <wesley>  adept is crased and repo is closed please help
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> wesley, if you do ps -ef | grep adept do you get anything?
[10:22] <wesley> dont know that not the commando i usual get
[10:23] <Stevethepirate> !rae
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rae - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <wesley>  adept is crased and repo is closed please help
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> wesley, you need to type that in the console
[10:24] <wesley> but i get from ubotu always a other code
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> wesley, the command i told you will see if adept is still running so we can kill it if it is
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> wesley, what output do you get?
[10:27] <wesley> dont know
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> wesley, well did you type it in console and hit enter?
[10:27] <wesley> i need the code that uboyu always gives if adept is crased
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !adeptcrash
[10:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !adeptcrash | wesley
[10:28] <ubotu> wesley: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:29] <wesley> thanks again XD
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> wesley, np, you can do those yourself if you know the words to put after the !
[10:46] <Riddell> ** testers needed of amarok in  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu {hardy,gutsy} main
[10:54] <Oleander> help: am creating new parition on free space on my hdd for kunbuntu install. what do i pick for location od the new partition (beginning or end?) and use as: ??   mount point: ???
[10:55] <christianp_> hi all
[10:56] <posingaspopular> does anyone have a clue as to which directory the C header files for the gcc compiler in kubuntu gutsy are located?
[10:56] <christianp_> i'm a newbye with kde; i'm used to have ubuntu and this is my first kubuntu experience
[10:56] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49007/ this msg in vmware in particular
[10:58] <christianp_> is there an applet to mount/unmount devices (i used it in ubuntu)?
[10:59] <posingaspopular> christianp_: i think the storage media applet might do it
[10:59] <posingaspopular> not too sure though
[10:59] <christianp_> thenks posingaspopular... it's not in the default's one?
[10:59]  * gukk_devel is back.
[11:00] <posingaspopular> umm well it should do it automiatically..
[11:01] <posingaspopular> im not sure what applet you are refering to in ubuntu specifically
[11:03] <Oleander> Am in kubuntu installation - partition.   it says no root file system is defined. i dont see where i define this. anyone lend me a hand ?
[11:04] <rabby_> heho
[11:04] <rabby_> was könnte ich dazu verwenden, ein video vom screen zu "drehen"?
[11:05] <rabby_> oh, english chan...
[11:05] <sivaji> Oleander if you are not sure about these thing then i will suggest you to go for automatic partition
[11:05] <rabby_> which app may i use to capture screen (X)?
[11:05] <sivaji> rabby_ press print screen key
[11:05] <rabby_> want to make a little video, not only a screenshot
[11:06] <sivaji> rabby_ then use istanbul
[11:06] <sivaji> !istanbul
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <rabby_> thx
[11:07] <Oleander> sivaji: ok i'll do that. under guided i selected 30.3gb so does that mean it automatically put linux on that size parition or on the remaindeR?
[11:08] <sivaji> yes i will create a root partition of size 30GB
[11:08] <sivaji> it*
[11:08] <Oleander> ok thanks
[11:08] <sivaji> Oleander do you have any other OS
[11:08] <sivaji> in your HD
[11:10] <Oleander> yeh windows
[11:10] <Oleander> on separate hdd
[11:10] <sivaji> Oleander ok fine but in future dont install windows after installed linux
[11:11] <sivaji> Oleander if such situation comes
[11:11] <Oleander> why>
[11:12] <sivaji> Oleander because windows bootstrap loader will remove grub loader
[11:13] <Oleander> okies
[11:13] <Oleander> even tho the two os's are on two physically separate hdds?
[11:16] <kde4> input problem on kubuntu gusty, the keyboad sometimes freezes for some windows, that is cannot input in the firefox address bar while ok in konsole.
[11:17] <kde4> and sometimes ok in firefox  but not in konsole and dolphin.
[11:18] <INFOEXCLUDED> how do i make an usb pen kde4 install ?
[11:23] <Mabo> giorno
[11:27] <Mabo81> ciao a tutti, vorrei registrare il nick mabo ma è occupato ed in disuso chi posso contattare?
[11:28] <posingaspopular> !it
[11:28] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:28] <posingaspopular> !register | Mabo81
[11:28] <ubotu> Mabo81: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[11:29] <somekool> I am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg
[11:35] <przychodnia1> Hi
[11:35] <przychodnia1> anyone from poland here ?
[11:35] <jussi01> !pl | przychodnia1
[11:35] <ubotu> przychodnia1: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:36] <przychodnia1> thx
[11:36] <jussi01> :)
[11:42] <Mabo> ho i pallini della connessione che continuaano a girare, come li fermo?
[11:42] <Oleander> help: just installed kubuntu, got the end of install and it said restart and take out Live cd, so restarted took out cd and nothing it happening. am getting like 4 loud beeps with nothing on screen...any idea whats the problem?
[11:49] <visof> is firefox better than konqueror??
[11:49] <podr0znik> heh
[11:50] <podr0znik> of all websites I regularly use, 50% doesn't open properly in Konqueror
[11:50] <podr0znik> so basically I didn't see a worse browser than Konqueror in a looooong time :)
[11:51] <pag> of all websites I regularly use 95% work perfectly in Konq. ;)
[11:51] <pag> some of Web2.0 stuff doesn't work though.
[11:52] <visof> vote
[11:52] <visof> every one vote
[11:52] <visof> hahaha
[11:56] <podr0znik> well, for me nothing goes above ff, but obviously other people have other experiences/opinions :)
[11:57] <podr0znik> and that is good, because then those poor people are not making browsers for nothing ;)
[11:57] <stdin> if the site doesn't work in konqueror, then the site is broken
[11:58] <stdin> konqueror is 100% standards compliant (unlike most websites)
[11:58] <Oleander> stdin: can u help me please, just installed kubuntu, got the end of install and it said restart and take out Live cd, so restarted took out cd and nothing it happening. am getting like 4 loud beeps with nothing on screen...any idea whats the problem?
[11:59] <stdin> do you see the grub screen?
[11:59] <Oleander> i see nothing complete black on screen, even lcd is on standby (orange light)
[12:03] <podr0znik> I had also sth "funny" here
[12:03] <podr0znik> kubuntu suggested me yesterday to update some components - fine, I thought, let's do it
[12:04] <Oleander> stdin any ideas?
[12:04] <podr0znik> then I tried to reboot: "Kernel panic, root cannot be mounted... bla bla" something like that
[12:04] <podr0znik> so... /me did a clean install of kubuntu again
[12:04] <podr0znik> Oleander, if your monitor is not going from standby, it could be something with bios I suppose
[12:05] <stdin> Oleander: well if grub doesn't even show it looks like it wasn't installed right
[12:06] <Xbehave> hmm ive been trying to get a systme setup for a friend for 12hrs now so sorry if ive missed something really simple but, how do i get compiz to start early or fix all the apps jumping out of the system tray
[12:07] <somekool> I am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[12:09] <stdin> Xbehave: if there isn't a X server running on :0, then remove /tmp/.X0-lock and /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
[12:09] <Oleander> hey ActionParsnip
[12:09]  * Jucato redirects stdin to somekool
[12:09] <stdin> woah, Jucato's here!
[12:10] <stdin> :)
[12:10] <Jucato> no I'm not. please ignore :)
[12:11] <podr0znik> does anybody have problems here with the auto update function of kubuntu 7.10?
[12:11] <emilsedgh> guess who's back! Jucato !
[12:11] <Oleander> stdin: got it to show startup screen, but saying primary drive not found. went into bios and in my boot sequence the C drive is number 1, and i cant seem to change it to my linux drive. by the way c drive isnt plugged in to mobo
[12:12] <Jucato> emilsedgh: who?
[12:12] <Jucato> :)
[12:12] <Jucato> anyway... gone again :P
[12:12] <Oleander> stdin: in bios under drive config primary master drive is being regonizsed as the linux drive tho
[12:12] <podr0znik> Oleander, if C drive is not plugged in to mobo, it cannot be found in BIOS
[12:12] <stdin> Oleander: then you need to boot into the live CD and reinstall grub
[12:13] <PoliticianNEW> a general question: is it possible to "halt" Programs so that they do NOT exit but just do nothing (no input, no output, no internal processing of anything) - like they would not get any cpu any longer for a certain period
[12:13] <stdin> !grub
[12:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:13] <stdin> Oleander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:13] <Oleander> thanks
[12:13] <stdin> PoliticianNEW: with apps started from the command line yes, you press Ctrl-Z
[12:14] <stdin> PoliticianNEW: or "kill -STOP (PID)" (I think it's STOP)
[12:14] <stdin> use kill -CONT to restart it
[12:14] <emilsedgh> Jucato: you ;)
[12:15] <stdin> and "fg" for command line apps you stopped
[12:15] <posingaspopular> Jucato: YOU!
[12:15] <Jucato> PoliticianNEW: you can right-click on the process in the ProcessTable (Ctrl+Esc) and send the signals that stdin mentioned (SIGSTOP and SIGCONT)
[12:15] <Jucato> (if those are the right ones)
[12:16] <Jucato> hheeh hi emilsedgh, hi posingaspopular. (congrats posingaspopular)
[12:16] <Jucato> but gtg :P
[12:16] <emilsedgh> Jucato: come back soon
[12:16] <Jucato> yeah, just going to scavenge for some mt.dew-induced sanity. I'll be back :)
[12:18] <posingaspopular> If i have 3 applications open on the panel, and want to send ALL of them to a different desktop, can I do that? if so, how/
[12:18] <Oleander> stdin: got it to work damn dell mobo peice of crap
[12:22] <Oleander> ActionParsnip: i finally installed kubuntu. yay
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, sweet move dude
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, is it firing on all cylinders?
[12:26] <Oleander> not yet i wanna get the beryl thing u were talking about the other day
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, thats good fun
[12:27] <podr0znik> if a normal system update (recommended by Adept updater) is making my system crash completely, is this then a hardware compatibility problem? (what I cannot imagine actually)
[12:28] <Oleander> damn...i partitioned my 120gb hdd in the install to 30gb thinking thats what the linux would install on but its installed on the remaining 86gb
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591580
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, easiest way is to leave the space unpartitioned at install time
[12:29] <podr0znik> or let me rephrase my question
[12:30] <Oleander> i tried doing it the manual way but someone on here suggested doing it the guided way.
[12:30] <podr0znik> after a clean install, there are immediately 76 updated packages available
[12:30] <podr0znik> I guess it should be normally safe to follow those suggestions and to install them?
[12:31] <Oleander> ActionParsnip: what do u recommend berly or compiz?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, guided is best but if the space is unpartitioned the installer will see it and offer to use it for the system drives
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, I use beryl personally but others prefer compiz
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> podr0znik, I'd get them
[12:33] <podr0znik> ActionParsnip, ok, but yesterday evening my system completely crashed after doing so (not booting anymore, some error about "Kernel panic")
[12:33] <podr0znik> so I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong and how to do it better ;)
[12:35] <somekool> Jucato: ???
[12:35] <somekool> I am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg
[12:35] <jussi01> Oleander: beryl doesnt exist anymore - it merged with compiz...
[12:36] <Oleander> oh ok
[12:36] <jussi01> Oleander: so unless you are using feisty or older...
[12:36] <jussi01> !compiz | Oleander
[12:36] <ubotu> Oleander: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !!
[12:41] <podr0znik> ActionParsnip, any idea about that error?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> podr0znik, what packages need updating?
[12:42] <podr0znik> well, I must admit that usually I don't look at that
[12:42] <podr0znik> when Adept suggest an update, I just execute it
[12:42] <podr0znik> the same yesterday evening, but then it didn't boot anymore and was complaining about Kernel panic, that root couldn't mounted or sth like that
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> sth?
[12:43] <podr0znik> I didn't write down the complete error
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> iexecute the updates too
[12:44] <podr0znik> then I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> let me google
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> what kernel you on at the moment?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> uname -r
[12:45] <podr0znik> 2.6.22-14-generic
[12:45] <podr0znik> the one supplied with 7.10
[12:45] <podr0znik> 'cause I did clean install
[12:45] <podr0znik> and no updates yet
[12:46] <TimS> Anyone here use AcidRip? It always gives me a file where the audio is arround 20ms out from the video, how could I fix this?
[12:47] <akram> test
[12:47] <akram> how to install compiz?
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> !compiz
[12:47] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:48] <akram> thx^
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> podr0znik, you could try updating just the kernel (?)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> podr0znik, or update individual things and reboot inbetween
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> podr0znik, see whats making it die
[12:56] <etfb> podr0znik: did you say that -14 is the latest kernel?  There's a discussion on #ubuntu right now that touches on that.  Wasn't there an upgrade a day or so ago?
[13:00] <etfb> I just noticed: Ctrl+Shift+W doesn't close Firefox any more - it used to, but it hasn't since I upgraded to Gutsy.  Has something changed?
[13:01] <etfb> !ping
[13:01] <ubotu> pong
[13:05] <posingaspopular> alt+f4 closes firefox...
[13:05] <FatalError> etfb, isn't it usually just ctrl+w ?
[13:05] <posingaspopular> ctrl+w closes the tab...
[13:05] <Pete_^> etfb: Not sure why its changed, but if I hit ctrl-w with only one tab open, it quits
[13:05] <Pete_^> ctrl-w quits the last one too.
[13:06] <Pete_^> (With Konqueror I'm used to ctrl-q for quit, and ctrl-w to close tabs)
[13:06] <Stevethepirate> lol
[13:07] <etfb> Pete_^: I hated that option, so I switched it off
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Pete_^, thats cos you closed ALL thetabs. It does it on mine too
[13:13] <lucky_lucas> Hi any qt4 libs is needed for a proper kubuntu ?
[13:13] <lucky_lucas> Or can I remove libqt4-core without any trouble
[13:14] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: I think only the Kubuntu Hardware Database and/or Speedcrunch depend on qt4
[13:15] <lucky_lucas> Jucato: arf I don't want to mess up the current default install of qt4
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> lucky_lucas, kde4 uses it too :D
[13:15] <moofoo> hello, i've configured a luks with cryptosetup, but /etc/init.d/cryptdisks does not ask for a password on startup (i tried the patch from 62751 though I'm running gutsy but this still don't help) any idea why this does not work? one remark: the drive is attached via usb... and manually starting cryptdisks from console later on works fine
[13:15] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: but that hardly qualifies as "proper Kubuntu" :D
[13:15] <lucky_lucas> I want to use the qt-copy for building kde4 from svn
[13:16] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: sure no problem w/ that
[13:16] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: following the guide on techbase.kde.org, it won't mess w/ any system installed packages (qt3/4 or kde3)... but using qt-copy would be redundant
[13:16] <lucky_lucas> Yes but while building kdesdk, cmake take my libqtxml from /usr/lib instead of home kde-devel qt-copy
[13:17] <lucky_lucas> Jucato: the guide on techbase isn't that up to date about the mess about qt4
[13:17] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: which mess?
[13:18] <lucky_lucas> Cmake would take the unpatched packages version of qt4 instead of using qt-copy
[13:18] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: theoretically, kde4 should be able to build with no problem using a vanilla qt 4.3.2... if it doesn't, that's a major bug. so it really shouldn't matter which qt4 you use
[13:18] <Jucato> hm... that's strange...
[13:19] <tatters> I have lost my toolbar somehow ,,what do I need to type in" run " to bring up the preferences so I can un-check auto hide
[13:19] <Jucato> tatters: kcontrol
[13:19] <Jucato> then go to Desktop -> Panels
[13:19] <lucky_lucas> my $qtdir env  points to home kde-devel but while building kdesdk, cmake complains about /usr/whatever libqtxml
[13:19] <Jucato> if by "toolbar" you mean "panel"
[13:20] <lucky_lucas> instead of the qt-copy one
[13:20] <tatters> k,thnx , yes it the panel that contains kmenu and systray
[13:21] <Jucato> tatters: yep. then kcontrol it is
[13:21] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: hm... strange indeed... can you try asking in #kde4-devel about this?
[13:21] <tatters> Jucato: thans that did the trick
[13:22] <lucky_lucas> Ok it's for sure a mess in my env since i cleaned qt several time etc... but I will go there
[13:22] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: it might also be specific to kdesdk only
[13:22] <Jucato> hm... gtg...
[13:23] <lucky_lucas> Jucato: runing cmakekde on kdesdk tells me  Found Qt-Version 4.3.3 (using /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/bin/qmake)
[13:24] <lucky_lucas> It tells me it tries to build /usr/lib/libqtxml.so, but there is no target
[13:24] <[ExCluSiVe_v2]> Çäîðîâà
[13:27] <[ExCluSiVe_v2]> Êòî ïîäñêàæåò êàê íàñòðîèòü SOCKS
[13:28] <jussi01> !en | [ExCluSiVe_v2]
[13:28] <ubotu> [ExCluSiVe_v2]: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[13:31] <tatters> In remote places / samba shares I get error  "cannot find any groups maybe because a firewall is enabled" however if I use konqueror and type smb://192.etc.etc I can see all the shares, I would have thought they both sing from the same hymn sheet?
[13:39] <peter_> !nvidia
[13:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:39] <sigma> the repo versions are easier to install
[13:44] <Lopin> Anyone know how to do updates on a PC that's not on the internet?
[13:46] <zakame> apt-cacher, etc?
[13:47] <sigma> i never update personally, too scared it will break something
[13:47] <Lopin> I'm trying to work on a computer for one of my cousins, but my aunt refuses to have internet access, so how would I update/ install new packages while offline?
[13:48] <sigma> i think it would be a mission because ul have to download all the packages
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Lopin, do it at your place every now and again
[13:51] <FatalError> sounds like a job for RFC 1149
[13:51] <Lopin> I'm only here temporarily...  I'm here for about a month, so I'm using th neighbors wifi to get on the internet as is...
[13:52] <tatters> I built a vm with diskless remote boot linux  installs ubuntu using pxe it also caches latest packages using apt-cacher so basically I can plug the ethernet into any pxe capable network card and it automatically installs latest ubuntu + updates
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Lopin, just get them to do it whenever they can
[13:52] <Lopin> The computer I'm working on is older, and doesn't have a wireless card...
[13:52] <Lopin> tatters: What?
[13:52] <tatters> the target pc requires no internet
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Lopin, you can buy them for real cheap
[13:52] <Lopin> Purchasing Hardware is out of the question...
[13:53] <Lopin> tatters: You'll have to explain this to me...
[13:53] <tatters> look into DRBL
[13:53] <Lopin> tatters: Like, how to pull it off...
[13:53] <Lopin> DRBL?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Lopin, if you are there only a month how are future updates going occur?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Lopin, USB wifi is about 10 quid
[13:54] <proud_kubuntu> hello peoples...
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> hi proud_kubuntu
[13:54] <proud_kubuntu> you're all KDE user's?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> proud_kubuntu, I do yes
[13:55] <tatters> Lopin http://drbl.sourceforge.net/
[13:55] <kroatia> how 'r' u
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> kroatia, not too bad, you ok?
[13:55] <kroatia> yes
[13:56] <kroatia> using Konversaation for the first time...
[13:56] <kroatia> *Konversation
[13:56] <kroatia> and i like it
[13:57] <ScottG> I'm an Xchat fan myself..
[13:58] <kroatia> well, i just installed Kubuntu (not the first time), didn't get time to install it
[13:58] <ScottG> I see.. yeah.. I've used Xchat on every Linux distro up to now so it's one of the first things I add..
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> hydrairc for my XP lappy at work. Konversation for me too
[13:59] <ScottG> I like Kubuntu.. the first sign that everything works is getting bored with it, which I am..
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ScottG, i'm like that]
[13:59] <kroatia> nah, I first install important updates from my CD (i don't want to download 300mb every 12 days :))
[13:59] <ScottG> added ubuntu-desktop last night just to play with it..
[14:00] <tatters> That like saying you getting bored with the plate your food is served on
[14:00] <sigma> hey isn't the next beta of hardy due out tomorrow?
[14:00] <kroatia> i've been on Ubuntu 4 a long time, but  when i saw the functions of Kubuntu, i switched immediately
[14:01] <kroatia> i like Edit KDE Menu best
[14:01] <ScottG> tatters: more like getting bored with the surroundings while eating.. the amiance maybe?
[14:01] <ScottG> ambiance
[14:02] <neville__> ambience =]
[14:02] <kroatia> i have that weird habit, i just like installing OS over and over (habit from XP)
[14:02] <neville__> =/
[14:03] <neville__> i was like that
[14:03] <ScottG> well.. I turned off spell check in xchat.. I'm normally great at spelling but I don't use the word ambience much :)
[14:03] <neville__> so i just made another computer with which to do it =]
[14:03] <kroatia> so, any of you guys from Balkan?
[14:03] <ScottG> yeah.. I have PCLinuxOS and Kubuntu on this main PC, that's it..
[14:03] <ScottG> I'm in the US.
[14:03] <tatters> Vm took care of that addiction for me
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kroatia, I used to do slipstream installs and use nlite. see how far i could hack it. but with kubuntu i can just work
[14:04] <ScottG> I use virtualbox for some things like testing hardy..
[14:04] <kroatia> i live in Croatia, but i really like hanging out on english forums/blogs/chats ect.
[14:05] <ScottG> so how is the weather in Croatia this time of year?
[14:05] <kroatia> cold
[14:05] <kroatia> it's very cold
[14:05] <kroatia> it's so cold, that i have a cold :)
[14:06] <ScottG> it's about -2 C here
[14:06] <jussi01> !ot | kroatia  ScottG
[14:06] <ubotu> kroatia  ScottG: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> is there a plugin for autocomplete in firefox so I don't have to have the googletoolbar showing?
[14:06] <kroatia> wow... -2?
[14:06] <ScottG> ok.. was not aware of the off topic channel..
[14:07] <kroatia> anyway, which browser do u use on Kubuntu?
[14:07] <ScottG> Firefox
[14:07] <kroatia> i'm pretty much satisfied with konqueror, but i don't nov how to enlarge f'ckin photos
[14:07] <kroatia> *know
[14:08] <jussi01> kroatia: please dont swear - even with the '
[14:08] <kroatia> 'k, wont do it again, sorry
[14:08] <jussi01> :)
[14:10] <kroatia> after using ubuntu for few HOURS my friend was like "HEY, THIS ISN'T WINDOWS! I CAN'T PLAY NFS:PRO STREET ON THIS THING!"
[14:11] <kroatia> he just liked the effects
[14:11] <ScottG> some people (who play games) are meant for dual boot or Windows..
[14:11] <Zombie> kroatia: Did he consider trying to run it under Wine?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> kroatia, if you got a little cash, cedega is a great gaming platform app :D
[14:13] <Downix> I run my Windows games on Linux using Cedega
[14:13] <tatters> Else run window and ubuntu in Vware to save duel boot
[14:13] <kroatia> yeah... he would lose nerves by booting XP then Linux, and over and over... @Zombie- yes, but he didnt wanted to type "wine play.exe" every time...
[14:13] <kroatia> Cedega isn't free..
[14:13] <tatters> Native window +Vmware with ubuntu =no issues
[14:14] <kroatia> of course, you can download it from phazeddl.com...
[14:14] <jussi01> nor is windows...
[14:14] <kroatia> right..
[14:14] <Zombie> I'm planning an X-mas Day Linux LAN war.
[14:14] <Downix> Kroatia:  With WINE I just install it, then it's added to my KDE menu like any other app
[14:14] <kroatia> some of them aren't, dont know why :S
[14:14] <Downix> Did you install them using WINE?
[14:15] <kroatia> oh, your saying for Kubuntu
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> kroatia, i know its not free. thats why i said if yu got some spare cash. Its cheaper than windows
[14:15] <jussi01> kroatia: you can make a new entry quite simpl
[14:15] <kroatia> *you're
[14:15] <jussi01> y
[14:15] <Downix> kroatia: Yes, as this *is* the Kubuntu channel....
[14:15] <kroatia> he don't want do do it, when he can do it in 2mins on Win
[14:15] <Downix> 2 mins on Win, really?
[14:15] <Downix> That's amazing, NFL:PRO took over 15 minutes to install for me
[14:15] <Downix> under Windows
[14:16] <Downix> (don't like the game, waste of money for me)
[14:16] <kroatia> no, i mean creating a shortcut, cracking the game and playing it :)
[14:16] <jussi01> !piracy
[14:16] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[14:17] <kroatia> i just said that he cracks it...
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> kroatia, cedega is $15 USD. I'd pay it hapily
[14:17] <Downix> cracking is illegal by copyright law, as it breaks the EULA which is enforced by copyright law
[14:17] <kroatia> in croatia that is..46$
[14:18] <kroatia> i don't do it... i have originals
[14:18] <kroatia> and 46$ is a lot around here... it's 300kuna's
[14:18] <kroatia> *kunas
[14:19] <jussi01> Ok, please keep this on topic - Kubuntu support
[14:19] <Downix> indeed
[14:19] <Downix> which reminds me, does Kubuntu on SPARC run in 32 or 64-bit mode userland?
[14:20] <moope1> hullo, does anyone know how to create a zip file with dolphin. When I actually select the files. all the compression options disappear. The zip option is not there anyhow :(
[14:20] <kroatia> is there any off-topic Kubuntu room?
[14:20] <kroatia> moope1- which files do you want to compress?
[14:20] <Downix> yes #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <jussi01> !ot | kroatia
[14:20] <ubotu> kroatia: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:21] <lg188> hello
[14:21] <Jucato> moope1: does your selection include both files and folders?
[14:21] <kroatia> just wanted to ask that
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> moope1, use zip zipfile.zip file1 file2 file3
[14:21] <lg188> i am shearing
[14:21] <Jucato> or use Ark, or use Konqueror :)
[14:22] <lg188> searching*
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !zip | moope1
[14:22] <ubotu> moope1: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[14:22] <moope1> Jucato: yes
[14:22] <moope1> ActionParsnip: Im not asking how to do it with command line
[14:22] <Jucato> moope1: it's a known bug with D3lphin
[14:22] <moope1> ActionParsnip: I know how to do that
[14:22] <lg188> for some dj proggy but i don't find the right one :(
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> moope1, sorry, its all i know
[14:23] <moope1> Jucato: Thanks. I think its a bit better than konqueror tho
[14:23] <moope1> ActionParsnip: Yeah Me too. but everyone says I must get into these new guis
[14:23] <moope1> :D
[14:23] <Jucato> use what you need/want to use... not what someone tells you to :)
[14:24] <Jucato> and I'm telling you to use Konqueror instead :P
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> moope1, why, the CLI is universal. why learn several GUIs
[14:24] <Downix> 8)
[14:24] <Downix> I tried to get Opera installed, wouldn't work
[14:24] <moope1> ActionParsnip, Users
[14:25] <moope1> I got a bad case of the users man
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> moope1, doesnt ark click in with dolphin?
[14:26] <lg188>  i search for a Dj program and who  is the best ?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> moope1, try peazip
[14:30] <lg188> its o so quit its o so still
[14:31] <lg188> i mean talk
[14:32] <lg188> lest talk about .... i dont know if there ar children so i dont sing it
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> anyone got kde on an eee pc?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> well...kubuntu
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> its late (for me)
[14:32]  * Jucato is not lucky enough to have one
[14:32] <lg188> eee ?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> lg188, the asustek eee pc
[14:32] <lg188> i have kubuntundapper on a pc
[14:33] <lg188> ooh no
[14:33]  * ActionParsnip wants one
[14:33] <Jucato> lg188: Asus Eee PC. different thing
[14:33] <lg188> ActionParsnip: sorry i don't have it
[14:33] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: someone has installed Ubuntu, so I guess it's not so far from Kubuntu
[14:34] <Jucato> although I would be more worried about stuff on the kernel/driver level... like wireless and power management
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, www.efficientpc.co.uk will installand check it for 20 quid :D
[14:36] <sgm> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[14:36]  * lg188 sings *its o so quit its o so still*
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> whats everyones latest kubuntu project?
[14:37] <sgm> Êòî ïîäñêàæåò êàê Socks fcnhjbnm
[14:37] <sgm> Êòî ïîäñêàæåò êàê Socks íàñòðîèòü
[14:37] <bazhang> ActionParsnip: I got an eeepc and use kubuntu, just not together; does that count?
[14:37] <Jucato> sgm: English please
[14:37] <bazhang> sgm: this is an English channel
[14:37] <Jucato> or are you just spamming :)
[14:37] <Pete_^> I think so
[14:38]  * lg188 eat some cookies
[14:38] <sgm> =|[::Jucato::]|=> Ðîññèÿ
[14:38] <lg188> !spam | sgm
[14:38] <ubotu> sgm: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[14:38] <Jucato> sgm: last warning. English only
[14:39] <sgm> Ùÿ ïåðåâîä÷èê ïîñòàâëþ
[14:39] <lg188> oooh auto operator from chanserv :)
[14:41]  * lg188 sings *its o so quit its o so still*
[14:41] <Pete_^> o so quit? ;)
[14:42] <Downix> Ok, I hate how hard it id to get through google tech support
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Downix, why you calling em?
[14:44] <lg188> for those Belgian people here : music for life rules really listen to stubru
[14:46] <Downix> ActionParsnip: We haven't had any adsence reporting since Dec 4th, on all 3000+ of our domains
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> wow thats really bad
[14:47] <Downix> rather perplexed as to the cause
[14:47] <Downix> we check every 1st and 15th, so we just spotted it
[14:49]  * lg188 sings *its o so quiet its o so still* "awake people of Linux "and eat from his coockie
[14:49] <stdin> lg188: slightly ironic you used !spam on sgm, isn't it...
[14:50] <lg188> kk i got it :)
[14:50] <sgm> Regard ,who can help to adjust Socks
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install hands; pullup /dev/leftsock; pullup rightsock
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> HAHAHA
[14:51] <lg188> stdin: i at least spam in English
[14:51] <lg188> :D
[14:51] <sgm> I from russia I bad write in english
[14:52] <jussi01> !ru | sgm
[14:52] <ubotu> sgm: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> libhands also installs scratch and grab. it also adds extra functionality to touch ;)
[14:52] <sgm> !ru
[14:53] <lg188> ?
[14:53] <pteague_work> hmm... now to try to get firefox's url to stop on certain characters...  anybody have any ideas?
[15:00] <loucas> hello
[15:00] <jussi01> !hi | loucas
[15:00] <ubotu> loucas: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:00] <loucas> my nightmare return
[15:00] <lg188> loucas:  what are your talking about ?
[15:00] <loucas> i dont have any sound on kubuntu
[15:01] <loucas> i have migrated from ubuntu
[15:01] <jussi01> !sound
[15:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:01] <lg188> aiih you have speakers ?
[15:02] <loucas> no is an ibm levono thinkcenter ....no sepakers
[15:02] <lg188> sepaker ?????
[15:03] <loucas> speaker :)
[15:03] <lg188> kk
[15:03] <lg188> what means a purple thing before a name
[15:05]  * lg188 sings *its o so quiet its o so still* "awake people of Linux "and i eat from my cookie
[15:06] <intExDK> I have a problem with my XMMS. When I added a track to my playlist, it displayed wrong title and artist. I clicked "File Info" and changed Title and Artist. Even after doing that, it still displays the original name in the playlist. I have tried removing it and adding it again. No change. Anybody have a clue?
[15:08] <lg188> i don't think so ...
[15:10]  * lg188 sings *its o so quiet its o so still* "awake people of Linux "and i eat from my cookie
[15:11] <intExDK> Found a solution. Started Dolphin with kdesu, and changed the title in meta info instead.
[15:17] <onishidato> hola
[15:17] <onishidato> how can we get one's ip?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks : )
[15:18] <lg188> hi
[15:19] <onishidato> !hello | BluesKaj
[15:19] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:19] <BluesKaj> hehe , Hi onishidato, lg188
[15:20] <lg188> BluesKaj:  onishidato ?
[15:20] <onishidato> BluesKaj: do you know how to get someone IP?
[15:20] <onishidato> lg188: it's me
[15:20] <Hamra> hi, i asked yesterday for a solution to the low resolution in the login screen, sombody told me to "sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm" and then install it again, but this didnt help! any ideas?
[15:21] <Hamra> onishidato: you mean in a local network?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> onishidato, someone in the the chat here ?
[15:21] <pteague_work> anybody have any ideas on how to get firefox's urlbar to stop on certain characters?  like on windows if the urlbar has http://phpfi.com/284070 & i double click anywhere in the 284070 it selects only that instead of the entire url - not only that, but i can use CTRL+arrow key to navigate through segments of text in the urlbar... i.e. it will stop on /, =, &, ?, etc
[15:22] <onishidato> BluesKaj, Hamra: some one who chat with me throught Kopete
[15:23] <Hamra> sorry, no idea
[15:25] <lg188> onishidato left ?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I think he could use traceroute or xtraceroute, but some IP addys are hidden
[15:25] <BluesKaj> DNS lookup, but I never used it
[15:31] <onishidato> BluesKaj: do you know how to do?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> no onishidato , but check this site : http://linux.die.net/man/1/host
[15:35] <onishidato> BluesKaj: thks s much
[15:35] <BluesKaj> do you know the whois command onishidato , dunno if it works in kopete
[15:35] <onishidato> BluesKaj: i have try
[15:35] <onishidato> BluesKaj: nothing happened
[15:36] <onishidato> BluesKaj: ping also
[15:36] <BluesKaj> onishidato, I think this is better : http://linux.die.net/man/1/dig
[15:36] <pteague_work> i figured out my firefox issue...  layout.word_select.stop_at_punctuation ... it's turned off by default seemingly on everything except windows
[15:37] <BluesKaj> onishidato, sometimes just doing a ' whois ' will give an IP address
[15:38] <onishidato> BluesKaj: sometimes like Pidgin has
[15:39] <virnik> i got cosmetic problem here
[15:39] <virnik> I am using Kubuntu Gutsy, and Xchat
[15:39] <virnik> but Xchat dock icon sometimes shows up too big
[15:40] <virnik> can somebody tell me hot to make it tiny, like other icons in dock?
[15:41] <onishidato> vinik: in tray icon?
[15:41] <onishidato> virnik: in tray icon?
[15:42] <virnik> onishidato: near hours...
[15:42] <virnik> or clock
[15:42] <virnik> so, classic icon dock, where you got kmix icon...
[15:42] <onishidato> virnik: got it
[15:42] <virnik> so this icon sometimes shows up good...tinz
[15:42] <virnik> tiny
[15:43] <virnik> but in most cases, it is much more larger
[15:43] <virnik> and ugly
[15:43] <virnik> or can i switch it off? i can use kdocker...it looks the same
[15:43] <virnik> but this is really ugly
[15:44] <PsySine> I'm running gutsy and need the realplay package, should i add the feisty-commercial repo or is there anything better suited?
[15:45] <the_ru> Does anyone know how to get a Radeon R300 working properly?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> PsySine, try the helix player , if you repos are all open like medibuntu , it's the linux version of realplayer
[15:46] <the_ru> I dunno what's wrong... It gets into the right resolution, but the picture is squashed
[15:47] <the_ru> and xvidtune doesn't want to help out :-(
[15:47] <trappist> BluesKaj: maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think that's exactly true.  I'm pretty sure helix lacks a lot of functionality of realplayer, which does have a linux version, and is separate from helix
[15:47] <PsySine> BluesKaj: i think helix player can't play real media. i think is has no proprietary codecs at all
[15:50] <BluesKaj> well, i guess you answered your own question then PsySine ...try the proprietary realplayer for linux.
[15:50] <PsySine> i installed realplay from feisty-commercial and it seems to work fine :)
[15:51] <BluesKaj> RealPlayer10GOLD.bin ?
[15:52] <PsySine> BluesKaj: the realplay package in deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[15:53] <BluesKaj> oh , i keep thinking in terms of ' Gutsy '
[15:55] <itsjustme> Hi all... How in kdeubuntu do you see all the harddrives on a sys.. As fedora, it shows the drive icons on the desktop...   thx
[15:57] <jsl> is there a way to specify what screen a [firefox] windows should open, when launched from command line?
[15:57] <trappist> jsl: can you rephrase that?
[15:58] <itsjustme> how do I see all the hd's on my sys
[15:58] <trappist> oh, you want to specify which monitor, on a multi-display system, to open a window on?
[15:58] <jsl> yes
[15:59] <jsl> I'm using a laptop with a docking station. when I'm a work I've a lcd panel connected to the docking station that I use with the internal lcd (dual head). when I reboot at home, with only the internal lcd, and lauches firefox, it tries to open at hte other monitor...
[15:59] <jsl> and then dies
[16:00] <trappist> jsl: I think it depends on *how* you do multiple monitors.  I imagine you have them arranged like a single desktop, so the only way I know to do that is if the app allows you to specify coordinates (usually a geometry option) on the command line
[16:01] <jsl> thing is, the last thing I do before logging out at work, is to replace xorg.conf with another that's only got one monitor (I haven't found a way to properly set it up:/ )
[16:02] <jsl> so there shouldn't be another screen to place it on
[16:03] <trappist> jsl: ok so maybe firefox is remembering the coordinates it last opened at, and now those coordinates don't exist and it can't handle it
[16:04] <reineur> hello
[16:04] <jsl> hmmm... I've got the option to extend the desktop to 3360x1050 (which is what I do at work, two panels at 1680x1050)
[16:04] <jsl> but I'm using 1680x1050
[16:04] <jsl> I tried renaming the profile directory, that didn't do anything
[16:05] <jsl> nor purging and reinstalling firefox
[16:05] <blaman> guys does anyone knows if there is a way to keep track of a specific applications cpu usage?
[16:05] <jsl> but when I'll get back to work, and launch firefox, it will open fine - at the other monitor
[16:05] <trappist> try renaming the whole ~/.mozilla - if that doesn't work it's probably not firefox that's keeping the geometry info
[16:05] <trappist> blaman: top
[16:06] <jsl> trappist: I've done that, that doesnt do anything
[16:06] <jsl> I think its kde that screws up
[16:06] <trappist> jsl: I'm starting to think the same thing
[16:07] <blaman> trappist oh i know top but i am more interested in something like a graph like the ones in ksysguard exept than i want to monotor a specific application and not like cpu usage in general
[16:07] <jsl> hmm.. there is a --display option in the command line, how do I find out what this display is called?
[16:07] <trappist> jsl: echo $DISPLAY
[16:07] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, you have the option of copying and pasting or linking the drives in storage media to the desktop
[16:09] <sigma_kubuntu> can i write a script that executes 3 xrandr commands one after the other?
[16:09] <jsl> firefox --display=:0 -g-fatal-warnings <--- that does nothing
[16:10] <trappist> jsl: I wonder if you can kill kwin and start firefox - it won't have window decorations, but we might learn something, and then you could restart kwin
[16:10] <jsl> sure
[16:10] <jsl> two secs
[16:12] <jsl> that did nothing
[16:12] <trappist> lame.
[16:13] <jsl> (had to switch to tty1 to restart kwin, after I killed it I couldnt set focus to any windows :P)
[16:13] <sigma_kubuntu> anyone?
[16:15] <jsl> use a for loop?
[16:15] <jsl> or just write the command on three lines after each other?
[16:15] <jsl> :P
[16:16] <jsl> hmm...
[16:16] <sigma_kubuntu> ok and i mark the file as executable?
[16:16] <Jucato> sigma_kubuntu: in your bash script, put "command1 && command2 && command3"
[16:16] <jsl> now firefox lauches just fine :P
[16:16] <jsl> sigma_kubuntu: chmod +x filename.sh
[16:16] <Jucato> that would execute the commands one after the other *only if* the previous command finished executing
[16:16] <Jucato> (otherwise use & instead of &&)
[16:17] <Jucato> for more info about bash scripting, I think there's a #bash channel...
[16:18] <jsl> hmm.. wonder what made firefox start lauching at the right display...
[16:18] <Lacrymology> is there an easy way of getting my machine specifications?
[16:18] <Lacrymology> like, processor, RAM, OS, etc
[16:19] <jsl> Lacrymology: lspci
[16:19] <jsl> and lshw
[16:20] <Lacrymology> thanks
[16:20] <jsl> np
[16:21] <jsl> then you have lsusb and lspcmcia
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Lacrymology, there's a utility called 'system info' , if I recall, works fine on kde , it might already be installed by default
[16:23] <BluesKaj> actually  "Sysinfo"
[16:24] <trappist> yeah I don't think lspci shows processor, ram or OS
[16:25] <itsjustme> how can I see my hd's in kde,,,, I tried konqouer and i still don't see the drives
[16:26] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, you have the option of copying and pasting or linking the drives in storage media to the desktop
[16:26] <suppaman> hi
[16:26] <jsl> kinfocenter is nice too
[16:26] <jsl> :P
[16:26] <suppaman> a friend installed kubuntu 7.10 but his bootloader is messed up, is there a kde too with a wizard for grub ?
[16:27] <virnik> can somebody know how to force Xchat to show normal icon in docker?
[16:27] <virnik> cos it shows sometime really huge icon at the clock bar
[16:27] <virnik> it is ugly
[16:27] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, look in the panel , choose System Menu/Storage Media
[16:29] <itsjustme> i see it but cant access it              hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[16:31] <jsl> btw: adept installer hangs for like 30 secs and more when selecting > 10 programs to install... wouldn't it be better to do another thread for dependency solving and keeping the interface snappy?
[16:32] <itsjustme> its my windows ntfs file hd... I can't see in it
[16:32] <jsl> itsjustme: you need to either start it with kdesu or give your user access to the filesys (?) group (hang on - I'll check what the group is called)
[16:32] <jsl> sec
[16:32] <itsjustme> cool thanks but I wouldn't know what to do with it
[16:33] <jsl> I'll tell you
[16:33] <jsl> just a sec
[16:33] <itsjustme> k
[16:34] <jsl> (this is btw another thing in kubuntu that's "broken" by design - it should give some "I need elevated privelidges to continue - enter password or cansel" thingie instead of showing that useless error message)
[16:37] <jsl> itsjustme: your going to add yourself to the "disk" group. to do this, go K-->System Settings-->User Management-->Enter Administrator mode-->Select yourself-->Click Modify-->Secondary Groups-->Select-->find "disk" in the left coumnlum and click add
[16:38] <jsl> then ok/apply your way out of the thing
[16:39] <itsjustme> k, ill try it
[16:40] <itsjustme> didn't work,, Do I have to reboot?
[16:40] <FatalError> you have to log out and back in for group changes to take a effect, utually
[16:40] <FatalError> usually
[16:41] <itsjustme> ok, ill seeys i n aa bit
[16:42] <robbin> Hi
[16:42] <itsjustme> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[16:43] <FatalError> if you run "id" does it show the group you added?
[16:44] <robbin> swe?
[16:44] <jsl> itsjustme: did you reboot / restart x?
[16:44] <itsjustme> I logged out
[16:45] <FatalError> itsjustme, open a terminal and run id
[16:46] <itsjustme> all kinds a stuff in there
[16:46] <jsl>  but is disk there?
[16:46] <FatalError> do you see the group you added?
[16:46] <jsl> ,6(disk), <--- that's what "id" tells me
[16:47] <itsjustme> y  disk is added or at least it is there
[16:48] <jsl> hmm
[16:48] <itsjustme> i can only access my linux hard drive
[16:48] <suppaman> bye
[16:48] <FatalError> did you look in /media?
[16:49] <jsl> hmm
[16:49] <itsjustme> im going to konquerer and looking in the storage media link
[16:50] <itsjustme> I see the icons for all the drives but can only access my ubuntu drive
[16:50] <itsjustme> cant get into windoz... now I know that "that's ok" but there is some stuffs I need on there..lol
[16:50] <jsl> remembered something: sudo aptitude install ntfs-config
[16:50] <Hamra> well, im not i "disk" group, but im mounting everything well, maybe its something in mount options? like read write access given to root only?
[16:50] <itsjustme> k
[16:51] <FatalError> when you click on the windows drive you got "permission denied"?
[16:51] <jsl> then just add your drive with the ntfs-tool on the system menu
[16:53] <itsjustme> FatalError this is what I get... Im working on something jsl is suggesting hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[16:53] <JuJuBee> I would like to add yp-auth support to my existing squid installation.  How do I do this?
[16:54] <itsjustme> jsl kind of name do I add??
[16:55] <itsjustme> set a mount point it says
[16:56] <jsl> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[16:56] <itsjustme> J S L    u the man
[16:56] <jsl> then enter "windows!
[16:56] <jsl> err
[16:56] <itsjustme> done and works
[16:56] <itsjustme> thx
[16:56] <jsl> without the !
[16:56] <jsl> :P
[16:56] <jsl> :)
[16:56] <cloneyin> hello, how do i enable ssh on my box?
[16:56] <itsjustme> Now   is anyone up to the real challenge..
[16:56] <jsl> dunno why this is made so "hard"
[16:57] <jsl> :)
[16:57] <rothchild> evenin' all
[16:57] <Hamra> itsjustme, go to system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems, double-click the partition you want, and check the mount point, and the security in the bottom
[16:57] <itsjustme> Its not hard,, Just be patient.. there is plenty of knoledgeable people here to help
[16:57] <jussi01> !ssh | cloneyin
[16:57] <ubotu> cloneyin: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[16:58] <itsjustme> Does anyone else have a toshiba laptop A205-s4707???   Massive problems with getting sound!
[16:58] <jussi01> itsjustme: what kind of sound card does it have?
[16:58] <jsl> well.... it should "just work".. they install ntfs-3g by default - then there should be a way for anyone to use it
[16:59] <itsjustme> I think it a hda intel
[16:59] <jussi01> !intelhda | itsjustme
[16:59] <ubotu> itsjustme: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[16:59] <jussi01> :)
[16:59] <cloneyin> how can i allow it?
[16:59] <itsjustme> yea but it didnt work the last time I tried it////  dont know how to move the files around to the dest folder\\
[17:00] <cloneyin> how can i allow ssh
[17:00] <itsjustme> I have the files on the sys\
[17:00] <jussi01> cloneyin: read the link the bot gave you!
[17:01] <cloneyin> i have no time
[17:01] <cloneyin>  i gotta go to work now
[17:01] <cloneyin> please tell me shoudl be one simple command
[17:01] <Dr_willis> install the sshd server.
[17:01] <jussi01> itsjustme: if you need to move files as root, press super + r and type: kdesu dolphin
[17:01] <Dr_willis> !find ssh
[17:01] <itsjustme> I was working with  a guy last week on this issue and we got almost all the way and he had to leave.. Is there some other brake sole willing to walk me through the install of sound on my laptop?
[17:01] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server, ssh, ssh-askpass-gnome, aolserver4-nssha1 (and 28 others)
[17:02] <jussi01> cloneyin: sudo apt-get install ssh
[17:02] <jussi01> sigh
[17:02] <cloneyin> ok wait
[17:02]  * Dr_willis alsays finds it amuseing when people ask him to 'wait' on IRC.
[17:02] <rothchild> isitjustme where did you get to and what is left to do?
[17:03] <cloneyin> so by default ssh is not installed
[17:03] <cloneyin> umm....
[17:03] <itsjustme> not knowing what I wass doing, he left and I ended up reinstalling the os
[17:03] <itsjustme> because it ended up worst than it started
[17:04] <rothchild> ok, so you've a fresh install with no sound?
[17:05] <cloneyin> hpw about remote desktop?
[17:05] <itsjustme> I have the files downloaded already and am flashing them to the laptop now if someone could walk me through the install
[17:05] <Dr_willis> cloneyin,  that is often done with the 'vncserver' program . I reccomend  the 'vnc4server' package.
[17:05] <cloneyin> so by default its not installed ,correct?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> cloneyin,  and correct. SSH server is not installed by default. Ubuntu tries to not install any services by default.
[17:06] <Dr_willis> When in doubt - take the most secure option. :)
[17:06] <rothchild> itsjustme I'll try but I don't know how much use I'll be :-)
[17:06] <itsjustme> last attempt we removed the mods and I ended up with no sound in both the ubuntu (which had non anyway) and my windows too.. So I got the win up and reinstalled its sound but I still have no sound on my fresh install of ubuntu
[17:06] <Dr_willis> the gnome and kde desktops have a vnc/shareing feature. thats using the vnc protocal. but thats not the same as the vnc4server.
[17:07] <cloneyin> thanks all,     i appreciate the help
[17:07] <rothchild> changing linux drivers wouldn't break the windows one, that stopped because the first instruction on that page is to turn off sound in the BIOS
[17:07] <flavietto> cloneyin: try nomachine nx
[17:07] <flavietto> much better than vnc
[17:08] <itsjustme> well, it looked like a pretty complicated procedure so If any knoledgeable people can help me out I would apprec. it..  :)
[17:08] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  Hmm.. anything you do in ubuntu shouldent be affecting windows at all.. You must be really good at breaking things. :)
[17:09] <itsjustme> hahahahah   I guess so because thats what happeded
[17:09] <rothchild> it's not as bad as it look (I don't think)
[17:09] <itsjustme> Im ready if you r
[17:09] <itsjustme> should we go private
[17:10] <rothchild> Nah it's ok, firstly have you tested your new install completely?
[17:11] <itsjustme> how to test an install\
[17:11] <rothchild> ie system settings /sounds / test sounds (+make sure it's all sensible settings?)
[17:11] <itsjustme> oh
[17:11] <itsjustme> yea
[17:11] <itsjustme> I have been there last week... Ill look at it again now
[17:11] <rothchild> put a cd in etc (it's always better to start with the simple stuff!)
[17:12] <itsjustme> no sound on test...  sound is enabled
[17:12] <Dr_willis> if you try to play a sound in the media player does it seem to be playing and you just get no output?
[17:14] <itsjustme> h/o
[17:15] <itsjustme> I looked at the setting in sound and when done i clicked ok and it says restarting sound sys.... but it is taking forever
[17:15] <itsjustme> 0 to 95% over and over
[17:15] <itsjustme> put a cd in but nothing is happening
[17:16] <itsjustme> opened konquer storage media... nothing is listed
[17:17] <rothchild> I think that's a different issue to the sound not working
[17:17] <itsjustme> ok,,,  using   ksCD and it looks working but no sound
[17:18] <itsjustme> the kscd is playing the cd without sound and there is an error
[17:18] <itsjustme> it is Error getting freedb entry
[17:19] <itsjustme> there is vol on the taskbar
[17:19] <rothchild> ok cool, there's another guide to getting it all working here http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/
[17:20] <itsjustme> THATS the one we used but this guy that helped me last week said there are a few needed changes that need to be made to that install
[17:20] <itsjustme> Do you want to try walking through it with me?
[17:21] <rothchild> if you've been there maybe we're better off with the official ubuntu guide
[17:21] <rothchild> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:23] <itsjustme> ok thx...  I guess I was having issues getting the files from the desktop to the correct dir
[17:23] <rothchild> just start at the top and let us know where you get stuck, the guide looks pretty comprehensive
[17:23] <itsjustme> ok
[17:23] <itsjustme> thx
[17:23] <itsjustme>  
[17:24] <rothchild> you need to put them in /src which a system folder so you'll need a bunch of sudo
[17:24] <Dr_willis> i always install mc. and use it to do my root needing file managing needs. :)
[17:24] <itsjustme> hhmmmnnn  that website isnt working
[17:25] <rothchild> which one?
[17:25] <itsjustme> the taufan one
[17:25] <itsjustme> ill try the other
[17:25] <rothchild> don't bother just stick with the ubuntu one, it's the same info
[17:25] <itsjustme> k.. thx
[17:29] <pteague_work> is there a way to get kate to apply a particular syntax coloring to a file without having to save the file first?
[17:29] <itsjustme> Funny, since I made the changes to the hard drive thing I cant go online... Rebooting
[17:29] <lena> alguien que quiera tocar el tema de linux?
[17:30] <ardchoille> !es | lena
[17:30] <ubotu> lena: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:30] <lena> gracias ubotu
[17:30] <itsjustme> working now... Ill try that site
[17:30] <jussi01> !thanks | lena
[17:31] <ubotu> lena: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[17:31] <FatalError> pteague_work, Tools->Highlighting
[17:31] <tzd> need help with fast desktop (using shortcuts to change virtual desktop) switching please.
[17:32] <jussi01> tzd: ctrl + alt + arrow
[17:32] <rothchild> itsjustme cool, let us know how you get on
[17:33] <pteague_work> FatalError> awesome, thanks! :)
[17:33] <tzd> jussi01:  doesn't work, which is fine... although i would like to have F1 for desktop 1 and F2 for desktop 2
[17:33] <FatalError> np
[17:33] <tzd> jussi01:  im currently using compiz fusion as well in case that matters
[17:37] <itsjustme> rothchild   OK getting my 1st error...  after getting the latest drivers    line 2 executed says...  cp: missing distination file operand
[17:38] <itsjustme> i am in usr/src/alsa noow
[17:39] <itsjustme> ~download
[17:39] <itsjustme> i need that folder
[17:40] <Dr_willis> was it one you make? or one that the source made?
[17:40] <itsjustme> I guess I need to make the folder
[17:40] <Dr_willis> ~ implies that its in your home dir.. Soundst o me like the docs said to Download stuff to /home/Whatever/download
[17:40] <itsjustme> the files are on my flash
[17:40] <Dr_willis> then use the path to your flash drive. :()
[17:41] <Dr_willis> and NO i dont know what that is. :) /media/SOMTHING
[17:41] <itsjustme> yes that wass the next q? lol
[17:41] <itsjustme> ill try drag
[17:42] <Dr_willis> rember when i said learning to use 'mc' is handy? :) its a decnt file manager to use as root.
[17:42] <rusty> http://tinyurl.com/249rjg
[17:42] <Dr_willis> of course learning to use the shell is handy also.
[17:42] <itsjustme> could not read
[17:42] <Dr_willis> do you even see the files on the flash drive?
[17:43] <itsjustme> ok,,,  they r on the desktop
[17:44] <itsjustme> sudo mkdir ~/downloads
[17:44] <itsjustme> is that how I make a dir
[17:44] <itsjustme> for downloads
[17:45] <tzd> need help with fast desktop (using shortcuts to change virtual desktop) switching please.
[17:45] <Dr_willis> tzd,  you may want to clarify your problem a little more.
[17:45] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  thers no need to use 'sudo' to make a dir in the users home dir.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> you proberly can just cp the things from where they are at using cp /home/USERNAME/Desktop/whatever /whever/it/said/to/copy/them/to
[17:47] <Dr_willis> you proberly will need a 'sudo' for that. :) depending on the where...
[17:47] <tzd> Dr_willis: sure thing :) I would like to have desktop 1 on my F1 key and desktop 2 on my F2 key. So when i press F1 the desktop should switch to the virtual desktop 1 etc.
[17:47] <itsjustme> so how do I get all 3 files from the desktop to the usr/src/alsa folder?
[17:47] <itsjustme> I am in alsa now\
[17:47] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  sudo cp /path/to/the/files /usr/src/alsa
[17:48] <Dr_willis> tzd,  You have exlored the kde shortcut  features? it may not be doable without a metakey. sicne a lot of those Fkeys are allready being used by the window manager.
[17:48] <itsjustme> so,  sudo cp/desktop (the file name there r 3 ) /usr/src/alsa??
[17:48] <Dr_willis> tzd,  Unless of coyurse you are using Compiz
[17:48] <tzd> Dr_willis:  i am indeed using compiz fusion
[17:48] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  the full path to the files is best to use
[17:49] <Dr_willis> tzd,  then you need to exlore the ccsm tool. Good Luck. :)
[17:49]  * Dr_willis dosent TOUCH compiz
[17:49] <tzd> Dr_willis: and there's a setting in there that suppose to change it although it wont work... it worked on ubuntu but now when im running kubuntu it wont work for some reason
[17:49] <itsjustme> there are 3 LONG files... is there a way to just move all the files from the desktop (which is just the ones I need ) to the dest folder?
[17:49] <tzd> Dr_willis:  fair enough :)
[17:50] <Dr_willis> I would guess that some how kde is grabbing the keys befor compiz is.
[17:50] <tzd> ill just try setting it in KDE directly instead of using compiz then
[17:50] <Dr_willis> I just set up the mouse wheel to change desktops. :)
[17:50] <Dr_willis> mouse over the desktop0-pager, scroll the wheel :)
[17:50] <tzd> yeah ive got that as well with the scroll... although im pretty addicted to my beloved function keys
[17:51] <Dr_willis> I cant imagine HOW you started using the Fkeys directroy for the desktops..
[17:51] <tzd> maxthon webbrowser ;P
[17:51] <Dr_willis> never heard of it.
[17:51] <Dr_willis> compiz is soo nice in that it has 100000000000000000+ keyboard combos to do everything.. heh
[17:51] <Dr_willis> now if only they had a way to print out what keys are doing what.
[17:51] <tzd> it's huge... in china ;P well, in that u can assign any key for any web page... started to bind a lot of sites and that's how it started
[17:52] <Dr_willis> You may want to check out Opera and its fast-site feature, actually firefox has a similer extension
[17:52] <hydrogen> yea
[17:52] <hydrogen> pretty much
[17:52] <hydrogen> if you want to use firefox
[17:53] <hydrogen> you need to install all the extensions people wrote to mimic opera
[17:53] <Dr_willis> http://portal.opera.com/startup/?tip=speeddial
[17:53] <Dr_willis> speeddial
[17:53] <hydrogen> and even then you have to deal with gecko
[17:53] <jussi01> !enter | hydrogen
[17:53] <ubotu> hydrogen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:53] <hydrogen> !space | jussi01
[17:53] <Dr_willis> I dont use speed dial much however.
[17:53] <hydrogen> aww
[17:53] <hydrogen> it was worth a try
[17:53] <jussi01> hydrogen: be good ;)
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <tzd> yeah i'm using FF in linux... apparently FF have all these things maxthon has... i jsut have to be bothered dl and installing all those add ons ;) Maxthon uses less memory though, a lot less than FF... shame it's on windows only
[17:54] <W8TAH> hi folks - i need some help -- ive been fighting for about 2 hours now trying to get my laptop to use the wireless connection more or less automatically -- in my mind when there is no wired connection present, it should automagickly connect via wireless if possible - but it wont -- it takes 10 mins of messing with configs and stuff to get it to connect - -HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP
[17:54] <itsjustme> ok, I have tried every kind of copy line I can think of and still cant get these files from /home/harry/desktop to the /usr/src/alsa folder... What am I missing
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. maxthon is a super-modded ie? or is it using firefox as its base?
[17:55] <Dr_willis> since its windows only.. im guessing IE based.
[17:55] <jussi01> !ot | Dr_willis:
[17:55] <ubotu> Dr_willis:: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:55] <tzd> yep IE based
[17:56] <jussi01> itsjustme: sudo cp /path/to/files /path/to/destination
[17:56] <rothchild> itsjustme if you're struggling manipulating files with the cli you can use kdesu konqueror
[17:56] <Dr_willis> It might of been FF based.. then that was sort of linux related. :)
[17:56] <Dr_willis> heh.
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Like flock.
[17:56] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  You may want to spend an hr or 2 reading some bash tutorials.. OR YOU may want to check out 'mc' :)
[17:57] <itsjustme> guess so
[17:57] <tzd> ;)
[17:57] <jussi01> Dr_willis: mc?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn to tie flys  befor you try to fish for Marlin. :)
[17:57] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[17:57] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2058 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[17:58] <Dr_willis> sudo mc :) i find that safer then running konqueror as root.
[17:58] <itsjustme> i am using konquer but get permission errors
[17:58] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  thats because you are trying to copy stuffot a system type dir. You MUST be using the root user/permissions to do so
[17:58] <Dr_willis> thats what 'sudo' does in the cp command.
[17:59] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  lets try again.. exactly what files are you trying to copy? and where to?
[17:59] <itsjustme> the latest alsa driver files    they are on the desktop and need to go to /usr/src/alsa
[18:00] <itsjustme> there r 3 files..  driver lib and utils...    alsa-driver-1.0.15rc3...
[18:01] <jussi01> W8TAH: what sort of wireless do you have?
[18:01] <Dr_willis> sudo cp /home/YOURUSERNAME/Desktop/WHATEVERTHEFILENAMEIS /usr/src/alsa
[18:01] <Dr_willis> do that command for each file. changing the proper  names.
[18:01] <itsjustme> alsa-lib-1.0.15rc3.tar
[18:01] <Dr_willis> note you can use <tab> to complete filenames
[18:02] <itsjustme> and    alsa-utils-1.0.15.tar.bz2
[18:02] <itsjustme> ok
[18:02] <podr0znik> Hello all
[18:02] <Dr_willis> Howdies.
[18:03] <podr0znik> brb
[18:05] <itsjustme> using konquer      " you cannot drop any items in a directory in which you do not have write permission
[18:05] <itsjustme> when trying to drag and drop
[18:05] <pag> itsjustme, well *do* you have write permission in that dir?
[18:05] <podr0znik> itsjustme: I think that's not only with Konqueror ;)
[18:06] <rothchild> itsjustme if you use alt f2 and use kdesu konqueror you will have write permissions
[18:06] <itsjustme> I dont know and sorry but I am getting frustrated
[18:06] <rothchild> but be carefull
[18:07] <itsjustme> thank you
[18:07] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  to use the file manager that way you MUST MUS TMUST start a konqueror session with kdesudo konqueror
[18:08] <itsjustme> finally Thankyou all for the help in getting those damn files there.. hahah
[18:08] <Dr_willis> and that konqueror 'window' can then write/change anything...
[18:08] <W8TAH> jussi01: hi -- sorry - -its bcm43xxx
[18:08] <Dr_willis> and that window can also really screw up things if forget that its a 'root' konqueror window
[18:08] <W8TAH> jussi01: the card is valid
[18:08] <W8TAH> and working
[18:08] <jussi01> W8TAH: so its all working fine?
[18:08] <itsjustme> ok doc
[18:08] <jussi01> ok
[18:09] <jussi01> !tab | itsjustme
[18:09] <ubotu> itsjustme: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[18:09] <itsjustme> Now I have another issue
[18:09] <W8TAH> jussi01: it works fine but i cant get good connection
[18:09] <Dr_willis> Im not suprised. :) heh heh
[18:09] <jussi01> W8TAH: and network manager doesnt recognise it?
[18:09] <itsjustme> oh boy
[18:09] <W8TAH> jussi01: network manager sees it but everythign tries to run through wireed even if no connection
[18:09] <itsjustme> I think I need a break
[18:09] <Dr_willis> if you need to uncompress the files. i suggest installign the 'unp' command.
[18:09] <Dr_willis> !info unp | itsjustme
[18:09] <ubotu> itsjustme: unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[18:10] <Dr_willis> You would cd to /usr/src/alsa and use 'unp whateverarchivenameis'
[18:10] <jussi01> W8TAH: so when there are wireless networks around can you select one with network manager?
[18:10]  * Dr_willis is guessing thats the next step in the howto
[18:10] <W8TAH> yes
[18:10] <W8TAH> jussi01: no problem there at all
[18:10] <W8TAH> but
[18:10] <W8TAH> it still wont ping out or anything
[18:10] <W8TAH> the same card, same laptop, same ap works fine in windows
[18:11] <W8TAH> and occasionally i can get it to work under kubuntu but its a lot lot lot of fiddling
[18:11] <W8TAH> im on wired at the moment to get some help
[18:11] <itsjustme> Im trying to stay by the directions on the help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but I have a newer driver
[18:11] <rothchild> Dr_willis:  we're working from this with itsjustme https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:12] <itsjustme> and it is inconsistant with the directions
[18:12] <jussi01> W8TAH: hmmm, I have no issues with it. are you using the ubuntu modules or ndiswrapper?
[18:12] <W8TAH> the bcmfwcutter thingy
[18:12] <rothchild> itsjustme: you can also press f9 in konqueror and get  a prompt for the folder you are in
[18:12] <W8TAH> when i get it going it works fine
[18:12] <itsjustme> Im in the wrong dir...  SORRY
[18:13] <guest_> hi there, i made a new password for my main account yesterday and log off
[18:13] <guest_> but today, for the life of me i cant remember what it was
[18:13] <itsjustme> ok,,,,   worked
[18:13] <guest_> how can i change my pass from a guest account?
[18:13] <jussi01> W8TAH: I suggets you try with ndiswrapper - the fw cutter thing doesnt work for me
[18:13] <W8TAH> ahhh -- ok
[18:13] <W8TAH> any input how to kill fwcutter?
[18:14] <podr0znik> guest_: I'm not a professional, but I guess you can only do that from root account
[18:14] <W8TAH> im on gusty
[18:14] <jussi01> !broadcomm | W8TAH
[18:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcomm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:14] <jussi01> !broadcom | W8TAH
[18:14] <ubotu> W8TAH: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[18:14] <W8TAH> thanks jussi01
[18:14] <jussi01> np's )
[18:14] <guest_> podr0znik: unfortunately, my guest account doesn't have root priveledges
[18:14] <podr0znik> as usual with guest accounts
[18:14] <TuX_Claudiu> can anyone tell me how to install xmms-perl-0.12 ?
[18:14] <itsjustme> Im getting a corrupted file error
[18:15] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  they seem rather clear to me. :) you are at the sudo tar xjf alsa-driver*.bz2
[18:15] <Dr_willis> part now
[18:15] <itsjustme> when doing the tar lib file
[18:15] <itsjustme> copy paste
[18:15] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  you realize you can sect/copy/paste the commands in the blue into a shell and it will do them?
[18:16] <guest_> does anyone else have any suggestions for getting my password, or making a new one?
[18:16] <itsjustme> That is what I did
[18:16] <W8TAH> jussi01: im pretty sure its not a driver issue - - the card is properly recognized etc and i have gotten it to work the problem is much more like the system keeps trying to send the stuff over eth0 (copper) instead of eth1
[18:16] <itsjustme> got  "  bzip2 Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
[18:16] <Dr_willis> of course if the latest archives are not .tar.bz2 you would ahve to change the options to tar
[18:16] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  sounfs to me like the download was bad
[18:17] <itsjustme> perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible reason followa
[18:17] <itsjustme> ok
[18:17] <itsjustme> ill try again
[18:17] <W8TAH> jussi01: i have to go do break duty -- i'll be back later
[18:17] <Dr_willis> which file was bad? the first one?
[18:17] <itsjustme> 2nd
[18:17] <itsjustme> 1st seemed ok
[18:18] <itsjustme> it was .lib
[18:18] <itsjustme> but I am using a version   1.0.15
[18:18] <itsjustme> I think the site uses 1.0.14
[18:18] <Dr_willis> You could do a                 cd /usr/src/alsa
[18:19] <Dr_willis> then 'sudo wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/lib/alsa-lib-1.0.15rc3.tar.bz2'
[18:19] <Dr_willis>  That removes the cp step :)
[18:19] <itsjustme> YEA  anything to eliminate that step:)
[18:21] <blackthorne> hi
[18:21] <itsjustme> Y E S i can...
[18:22] <itsjustme> Ok   it is there
[18:22] <itsjustme> afain
[18:22] <itsjustme> again
[18:22] <itsjustme> ok
[18:22] <itsjustme> looks like it may have worked
[18:23] <itsjustme> got a bad third utils file too
[18:23] <Dr_willis> if you cant understand a basic 'cp' operation. :) well..  ask santa for a 'using bash' book by orially  and Co. :P
[18:23] <claybarnes> There's a unique one...
[18:24] <Dr_willis> wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2
[18:24] <itsjustme> cool worked         SANTA!!!
[18:25] <claybarnes> Now, I am having issues gettingg m4a support for amarok.  I installed ^libm4a.* but I still get an unsupported format error.  Does xine have a package I need to get, too?
[18:25] <foibles> can someone please help me get my password or change my password?
[18:25] <foibles> im dumb and forgot it
[18:26] <itsjustme> next step     i get no such file
[18:26] <foibles> im in a guest account with no root priveledges
[18:26] <itsjustme> Im using cd to 1.0.15
[18:26] <Dr_willis> foibles,  boot live cd, chroot to the installed system,  run 'passwd username' and set a new password.
[18:26] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  filename may be wrong. or typed
[18:26] <foibles> Dr_willis: ill try it
[18:26] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  which step exactly?
[18:27] <itsjustme> compile    1st step
[18:27] <itsjustme> cd alsa-driver-1.0.14
[18:27] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  ok... stand back.. take a breath.. and think..
[18:27] <itsjustme> but I changed it to cd alsa-driver-1.0.15
[18:27] <Dr_willis> use the 'ls' command. :) see whats there
[18:28] <Dr_willis> You are in the /usr/src/alsa dir allready?
[18:28] <podr0znik> would anybody like to assist me with the Adept Updater pls?
[18:28] <itsjustme> ok..its there  but i didnt enclude the entire file name...   but a copy paste wouldnt either
[18:29] <Dr_willis> cd alsa-driver<TABKEY>
[18:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:29] <Dr_willis> will auto-complete the name
[18:29] <itsjustme> I think that is what the other guy was saying last week when the directions were flaued
[18:29] <itsjustme> ok
[18:29] <Dr_willis> or they changed the name of the source dir.
[18:29] <Dr_willis> since the docs are for 1.0.14 they may be correct. for that version.
[18:30] <itsjustme> compiling
[18:30] <itsjustme> i see
[18:30] <jackcy> i am going through the python-kde4 tutorials and can't run the hola2-kde.py There is alwasy the ImportError: No module named PyKDE4.kdecore error. Can anyone tell me how to come around this? python-kde4 was not installable because of dependencies. thx
[18:30] <W8TAH> jussi01: im back
[18:30] <rothchild> hats off to Dr Willis! itsjustme keep going you're about to 'get it'
[18:30] <itsjustme> she's makin
[18:30] <Dr_willis> With the proper wget commands, that whole howto could be one big script.
[18:30] <Dr_willis> ;)
[18:31] <itsjustme> :)  Hats off is rite...  1st Drink is on me
[18:31] <jpatrick> jackcy: install python-kde4
[18:31] <jpatrick> ah
[18:31] <Dr_willis> I gotta help my friend at work do this howto sometime...
[18:31] <Dr_willis> His laptop has no sound.
[18:31] <itsjustme> U   B   THE MAN
[18:31] <claybarnes> well, then.  I suppose my question isn't interesting enough.
[18:32] <itsjustme> and he'll buy ya a drink 2
[18:32] <Dr_willis> i dident even notice clay ask somthing...
[18:32] <itsjustme> alsa modules were successfully compiled
[18:33] <jackcy> i would have, but there are dependency problems with kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[18:33] <jackcy> So the package is not configured and removed if i install it via repositories
[18:33] <itsjustme> Dr_willis   I am at the compile and install alsa-lib step
[18:33] <itsjustme> do I need to
[18:34] <Dr_willis> most likely - yes. :)
[18:34] <itsjustme> and how would I word it?
[18:34] <itsjustme> im using the 15
[18:34] <itsjustme> just as before I amagine
[18:34] <Dr_willis> cd ../alsa-lib-<TAB> to make the shell put int he right name. :)
[18:35] <Dr_willis> Bash Fundamentals.
[18:35] <itsjustme> hhuummm     not a directory
[18:35] <Dr_willis> you did uncompress it first?
[18:35] <itsjustme> y
[18:35] <Dr_willis> use ls and see whats there. You proberly compneted the ARCHIVE name, not the dir name.
[18:36] <itsjustme> ]wow
[18:36] <Dr_willis> hit tab a few times it should  go through them
[18:36] <itsjustme> 2321
[18:36] <itsjustme> n
[18:36] <itsjustme> there are 2321 of them
[18:36] <Dr_willis> You are NOT in the proper dir.
[18:36] <podr0znik> if I open Adept Updater ('cause there are 76 packages to be updated), can I also select the packages I want to be updated, or can I only just choose for everything?
[18:37] <Dr_willis> note the cd .. bit? that says "look UP one dir level"
[18:37] <Dr_willis> you cd do a cd .. to move up one dir. to the /usr/src/alsa dir
[18:37] <itsjustme> ok   I am at /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.15rc3
[18:38] <itsjustme> ok
[18:38] <Dr_willis> you have managed to be one dir out of sync.
[18:38] <itsjustme> im at alsa
[18:38] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/src/alsa SHOULD be the dir with the archives and so forth From what i am reading.
[18:39] <[ifr0g]> Any one uses xawtv here ?
[18:39] <Dr_willis> but that may not matter.
[18:39] <itsjustme> oh be nice
[18:39] <[ifr0g]> !xawtv
[18:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xawtv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:39] <itsjustme> ok looking at the compile and install alsa-lib step
[18:40] <[ifr0g]> Shame on the bot !
[18:40] <Dr_willis> it also may be an issue that you are using .15 for some, and .15rc3 for the other..  may not be a problem.
[18:40] <ardchoille> !info xawtv | [ifr0g]
[18:40] <ubotu> [ifr0g]: xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 704 kB
[18:41] <itsjustme> not sure what to do at this point    i need to be at   cd../alsa-lib
[18:41] <Dr_willis> You need to  just cd to the right dir.
[18:41] <nixon> русскоязычные есть ?
[18:41] <itsjustme> ok
[18:41] <itsjustme> h/o
[18:41] <Dr_willis> cd  /usr/src/alsa-lib<TAB>   or it may be /usr/src/alsa/alsa-lib<TAB>
[18:42] <itsjustme> giving me no such file
[18:42] <itsjustme> but i am typing it as i see it from an ls
[18:44] <itsjustme> hit tab and nothing happens to complete the file
[18:44] <itsjustme> it is there  in green
[18:44] <itsjustme> alsa-lib-1.0.15rc3.tar.bz2
[18:45] <[ifr0g]> Where does scantv store the config file :( ????
[18:45] <itsjustme> i am in /usr/src/alsa
[18:46] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  looke to me like you dident uncompress that alsa-lib file then
[18:46] <itsjustme> doing an la I show only the 3filesin green and 1 in blue...
[18:46] <itsjustme> that is what I am attempting to do
[18:46] <podr0znik> anybody an idea here what's the difference between "Request removal" and "Request purging" (in Adept Updater)?
[18:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey guys.. would anyone know how I would get X to restart on logging out
[18:47] <kub^> Paddy_EIRE: theres a drop down menu on the login page where you can choose to restart x
[18:48] <Paddy_EIRE> podr0znik, purging completely removes it and config fies
[18:48] <Paddy_EIRE> kub^, I know.. I want it to restart upon logging out
[18:48] <podr0znik> so it's more drastical than just "removal"
[18:48] <podr0znik> ok
[18:48] <podr0znik> actually I'm still wondering if I can select a number of packages to update in Updater
[18:48] <kub^> Paddy_EIRE: oh sorry, thought that question was a bit easy ^^
[18:48] <podr0znik> instead of just updating everything at once (and probably getting an error, which happened every time so far)
[18:48] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[18:49] <Paddy_EIRE> podr0znik, you are best working through those errors and updating everything as its the proper way
[18:50] <itsjustme> sure looks like I did a lot...   I got to the "WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the alsa driver are muted by default you would use some alsa or oss mixer to set the appropriate volume
[18:50] <Paddy_EIRE> podr0znik, provide the errors and maybe someone can help you work through it
[18:50] <Dr_willis> itsjustme, you needed to uncompress all 3 of the archives that would make 3 dirs. you would then have 3 files, and 3 dirs
[18:51] <itsjustme> ok, but i thought i did
[18:51] <Dr_willis> I undid thenm all at once with 'unp *.bz2'
[18:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:51] <itsjustme> hahaha   funny guy
[18:52] <itsjustme> im not sure where i should even be now
[18:52] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, you can install alsa with adept ,namely alsa-base & alsa-utils
[18:52] <itsjustme> sudo ./configure --with-cards ???\
[18:53] <itsjustme> Is that with synaptic?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> adept or synaptic. no difference
[18:54] <itsjustme> searching
[18:54] <itsjustme> but thats 1.0.14
[18:54] <BluesKaj> adept, apt and synaptic all use the sources.list repositories
[18:55] <podr0znik> Paddy_EIRE: ok then, let's go for it *shiver* :)
[18:56] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  No.. thats configuring the source to use the specific driver for yopur cards
[18:56] <Dr_willis> sudo ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel
[18:56] <BluesKaj> !repositories | itsjustme
[18:56] <ubotu> itsjustme: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[18:56] <Dr_willis> means compile IN intel-hda spport
[18:56] <itsjustme> ok....   downloaded and installed
[18:56] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Could have used:  for i in *; do tar xf $i; done   ?
[18:57] <ksal> hi
[18:57] <foibles> Dr_willis: I did a grub edit
[18:57] <itsjustme> ok,  so now what have I done by installing these files??   what step do I continue with??
[18:57] <foibles> worked like a charm
[18:57] <foibles> got my pass back
[18:57] <ksal> can somebody tell me where I can configure Adept?
[18:57] <podr0znik> Paddy_EIRE: For now no errors yet, it first needs to download 180M ;)
[18:58] <ksal> I once found it, but I cannot this time
[18:58] <ksal> czesc podr0znik :D
[18:58] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  i found 'unp *.bz2' eaier for some odd reasin. :)
[18:58] <podr0znik> witam :)
[18:58] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: :)
[18:58] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  you compuile all 3 of the pacakges  and inztall them like the docs say
[18:58] <Dr_willis> then you reboot.. and pray
[18:59] <podr0znik> ksal: heh, I'm just fighting with Adept right now
[18:59] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  BOOKMARK THIS -------->  http://pastebin.com/m415f4164
[18:59] <ksal> Dr_willis: I know that feeling ;)
[18:59] <podr0znik> updating 76 packages
[18:59] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  thats a fast script i made that i think may automate this all.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, Selecting ALSA in System settings' k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[18:59] <ksal> podr0znik: hmm, i think it sucks abit
[18:59] <DexterF> hey
[18:59] <DexterF> !utf8
[18:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf8 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <ksal> IMO synaptic is a bit better
[18:59] <podr0znik> well, until now I got an error every time when doing those updates
[18:59] <DexterF> !cp850
[18:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp850 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <podr0znik> I don't know if it's because of Adept or because of sth else
[19:00] <ksal> podr0znik: you just installed kubuntu?  have you been updating system before?
[19:00] <DexterF> ok: CD burnt in Windows, file name contains german umlauts, example "cd für alex".
[19:00] <BluesKaj> uhoh, I'll back off ...too many ALSA cooks here :)
[19:00] <podr0znik> ksal: I have kubuntu running already for some time, but yesterday evening I had a not so funny situation
[19:00]  * genii slides BluesKaj a coffee
[19:00] <ksal> uh-huh
[19:00] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  my script seems to work for me at least.. :)
[19:00] <jackcy> Please give me a hint where to fetch python-kde4 because the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ gutsy main" repo has dependency problems.
[19:00] <podr0znik> did some update (again: suggested by Adept), rebooted, forgot to pray and there's my punishment
[19:00] <BluesKaj> thx genii : )
[19:00] <ksal> ;)
[19:00] <itsjustme> ok....  Ill try it
[19:00] <DexterF> now openoffice wont open it, I guess because of the garbled char - ideas what to do? I'd remount with cp options, but it's for a dummy user
[19:00] <podr0znik> some "Kernel stressed" error, root couldn't be mounted anymore
[19:01] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[19:01] <ksal> hmm,
[19:01] <itsjustme> BluesKaj....restarting sound system never stops....  Tring the docs suggestion
[19:01] <ksal> so, anybody know where to configure adept search for updates frequency?
[19:01] <ZardoZ> whats the ideal filesystem to use for an install?
[19:02] <ZardoZ> ive always used ext3, but i see there are others
[19:02] <hydrogen> ricer5.3
[19:02] <ksal> i want it so search once for a week
[19:02] <podr0znik> yeah
[19:02] <ksal> hydrogen: you mean reiser :)
[19:02] <ksal> right?
[19:02] <podr0znik> I also don't see the use of updating every 2nd day
[19:02] <hydrogen> no
[19:02] <t3hwiz0rd> does anyone here have familiarity with avant window navigator?
[19:03] <Dr_willis> bye all.. work time for me.. back in 8 hrs or so
[19:03] <t3hwiz0rd> because the stupid application WONT uninstall now
[19:03] <ksal> podr0znik: yeah, i once found the configuration dialog and i changed the frequency to every 2nd day, but now i see it was mistake and it's still too much.
[19:04] <ksal> i think once per month would be optimal choice :)
[19:04] <podr0znik> ksal: I'm happy to see already that there IS a configuration dialog
[19:04] <podr0znik> I didn't know that
[19:04] <ksal> but it depends on what connection speed do you have
[19:04] <itsjustme> 16
[19:05] <DexterF> who automounts cdroms in kubuntu? KDE's HAL? or Kubuntu itself?
[19:05] <ksal> podr0znik: yeah, i can't remember where
[19:05] <ksal> DexterF: i thought it's always HAL's job
[19:05] <acee1234> im running kde and the sound sounds like a skipping record and new programs open really slow idea?
[19:06] <podr0znik> probably it's in this settings thingy
[19:06] <podr0znik> but don't remember also
[19:06] <podr0znik> you know, not system settings, but the more advanced toy
[19:06] <itsjustme> line 17  needs not sudo
[19:06] <itsjustme> line 18 working
[19:07] <t3hwiz0rd> anyone?
[19:07] <ZardoZ> t3hwiz0rd, i dont
[19:07] <t3hwiz0rd> the program simply wont uninstall
[19:08] <acee1234> if no one knows here might someone suggest a channel to go to?
[19:08] <ksal> t3hwiz0rd: but why?
[19:08] <itsjustme> looks like you r gettin me there Doc..  on line 20
[19:08] <itsjustme> hahahaha   unp
[19:08]  * jackcy closes the lid and prays
[19:08] <ksal> acee1234: i'm sorry. i think no one here can help you
[19:09] <acee1234> alright
[19:09] <ksal> ;]
[19:10] <podr0znik> hello sigma ;)
[19:10] <sigma_kubuntu> is there a way to control amarok with my windows mobile smartphone?
[19:10] <sigma_kubuntu> hello podz0nik
[19:10] <itsjustme> 33
[19:10] <ksal> sigma_kubuntu: woah, how did you even get this idea?! XD
[19:11] <hydrogen> sigma_kubuntu: if you can ssh with it then sure
[19:11] <t3hwiz0rd> the problem is that the damn thing wont uninstall
[19:11] <t3hwiz0rd> and apt keeps giving me repetative stupid errors
[19:11] <t3hwiz0rd> and NO ONE seems to understand how to help remove the app
[19:12] <sigma_kubuntu> hydrogen: its a htc s310 with win mobile 5. how do i knw if it supports ssh?
[19:12] <itsjustme> Dr_willis   S T U C K on 39
[19:12] <rec53> t3hwiz0rd: You could pastebin the errors that apt is giving
[19:12] <itsjustme> No such file or directory
[19:13] <t3hwiz0rd> rec53: http://pastebin.ca/825689
[19:13] <hydrogen> no clue sigma_kubuntu
[19:16] <t3hwiz0rd> rec53: i just want to get rid of the stupid thing and all of its associated crap but it doesn't seem to be working
[19:16] <sigma_kubuntu> ksal: theres alot of bluetooth apps out there for phones that run on java. so i was just wondering
[19:16] <t3hwiz0rd> i've removed every directory and file imaginable manually and im at the point of rm -r /'ing and going back to windows
[19:16] <rec53> t3hwiz0rd: Try:   sudo apt-get remove avant-* awn-core-applets-bzr libawn-bzr python-libawn-bzr
[19:16] <itsjustme> Oh NO!   Dr_willis is gone and I am left again unfinished...  Can someone get me through the last hurdle  I am stuck at line 39 at     http://pastebin.com/m415f4164        im getting no such file or directory  H E L P :)
[19:17] <rec53> It sounds like awn- and libawn- things are related to awn, so removing them as well might allow you to remove it.
[19:17] <t3hwiz0rd> rec53: thank you, you just saved me from screaming till someones head popped
[19:17] <profobofucho>  hello, how can i disable autoremove? WHY can't I decide what to do with my packages?, if something is goin to brake, then let it brake, give then the possibility of autoremoving it as a separate feature....!!!!
[19:18] <rec53> t3hwiz0rd: How did you install it, it doesn't appear to be in the standard repos, so your sources.list may like a tidy up now
[19:18] <t3hwiz0rd> rec53: i followed a guide
[19:18] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, delete the #, in front of sudo make install
[19:19] <rec53> t3hwiz0rd: Just to satisfy my curiosity, would you mind pastbinning your sources.list ( cat /etc/apt/sources.list ) :)
[19:20] <t3hwiz0rd> rec53: well, i already removed the repo for it rec53
[19:20] <t3hwiz0rd> its back to the default sources.list that comeso ut of the box :-P
[19:20] <rec53> t3hwiz0rd: Ah, rightio, don't worry then :)
[19:20] <t3hwiz0rd> i *typically* know what im doing
[19:20] <t3hwiz0rd> from time to time, not so much
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | t3hwiz0rd
[19:21] <ubotu> t3hwiz0rd: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[19:21] <itsjustme> Thx
[19:21] <t3hwiz0rd> BluesKaj: i always manage my sources list to the point that i seperate my additional repos from repos defaulted
[19:21] <t3hwiz0rd> they're spaced out and everything is perfectly labeled in my src.list
[19:22] <t3hwiz0rd> so if something doesn't go over well.. removal is all i need, then i clean up the sources.list
[19:22] <BluesKaj> neatness is nice but it doesn't help anything :)
[19:22] <t3hwiz0rd> well it does if you know what is and isn't needed
[19:23] <BluesKaj> I keep a backup copy on gmail in case of emergency
[19:23] <lg188> hi
[19:23] <BluesKaj> t3hwiz0rd, ?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> wel , I keep the necessary media repos , that's about the only extras required for my doings
[19:28] <acee1234> can someone help me figure out my my system when not running anything is eating 800mb of ram?
[19:28] <acee1234> why my*
[19:28] <DarthWar> *caching*
[19:28] <acee1234> ?
[19:29] <DarthWar> or firefox
[19:29] <DarthWar> !caching
[19:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caching - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <DarthWar> !memory leak
[19:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memory leak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <lg188> can the telephone destroi the inet ?
[19:29] <podr0znik> Paddy_EIRE: Got my error :/
[19:30] <podr0znik> first it downloads all packages (at least I guess so), then it starts installing them
[19:30] <podr0znik> when at 62% it's "preparing to configure new version of libqt3-mt..."
[19:30] <podr0znik> there it stops
[19:30] <acee1234> rudihawk: also the throuput on the ram is maxed
[19:30] <podr0znik> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[19:31] <podr0znik> when I close that dialog box, it stops installing the rest of the updates, so don't know if they are actually installed or not
[19:31] <podr0znik> cannot find any log or whatever
[19:32] <rec53> podr0znik: Can you run  sudo aptitude safe-upgrade  from the command line instead, then you can copy and paste the error?
[19:33] <podr0znik> trying
[19:35] <podr0znik> it looks like from command line it will try doing where Adept stopped
[19:35] <podr0znik> it says "Setting up libqt3-mt (3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu11.1)..."
[19:36] <podr0znik> and then asks what I want to do, 'cause the file already exists basically
[19:36] <podr0znik> if I want to install the package maintainer's version or keep my currently-installed version (default)
[19:36] <podr0znik> I can also look at the differences
[19:37] <itsjustme> BluesKaj....ok I have completed the whole thing and rebooted,,  I now have a red circle white x on my speaker...  Cursur over it and i get Mixer not found??
[19:37] <podr0znik> follow the default or install the other one?
[19:37] <acee1234>   anyone know how to fix a caching issue?
[19:38] <hads> Does anyone know what's up with libxine1 in gutsy-backports?
[19:38] <rec53> podr0znik: I'd look at the differences if I was you (I don't know what I should say to do otherwise), you might as well.
[19:38] <acee1234> nvm battery is going to die
[19:38] <podr0znik> done already
[19:39] <itsjustme> synaptic,,,     kmix installing
[19:39] <podr0znik> I chose to install it
[19:39] <podr0znik> no smoke coming out of computer yet
[19:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I am faced with a blank screen of uselessness upon logging out of kde and I have to either power off or REISUB :S  What I did when using gnome/gdm was to tick the box in the login manager that says "Restart X with each logout" anything similar in kde/kdm
[19:40] <Kohlrabi> Paddy_EIRE: the easy solution would be using gdm, sorry I don't know@kdm
[19:41] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah I thought that
[19:41] <Paddy_EIRE> thx anyhow :)
[19:41] <itsjustme> still no good...  The speaker is on the taskbar with muted button on it...  Cant unmute it
[19:45] <tid-wave> hello. after upgrading the packages with adept upgrade tool, amarok no longer starts. I get no error. what should I do?(Kubuntu 7.10)
[19:46] <fdoving> tid-wave: open a konsole, then try to run 'amarok', does it give any error messages?
[19:47] <tid-wave> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/iu1HRK94.html
[19:50] <fdoving> tid-wave: hmm.. maybe you should try #amarok - i'm out of ideas.
[19:50] <tid-wave> fdoving: thanks for answering me. I'll try #amarok
[19:55] <anakin_> Can someone please tell me how to delete all kde4 system settings? i was trying to see how my VIA chrome card reacts to desktop effects and it now gives me a blank white screen everytime i login to kde4.
[19:55] <anakin_> tried running kde4-system settings from within gnome. doesnt seem to work
[19:55] <Hamra> does anybody know of a dictionary program i can use offline?
[19:56] <anakin_> Hamra:  dictd
[19:56] <llutz> Hamra: ding
[19:56] <Hamra> thnx
[19:56] <anakin_> for a server- and then you can use any dictionary lookup client to point to it.
[19:56] <Hamra> i'll try that too
[19:56] <hads> anakin_: If you don't care about any setting then you could remove ~/.kde4
[19:57] <hads> (or just move it out of the way)
[19:58] <itsjustme> Well, after another half a day trying to configure this laptop for sound the only changes are that I have a muted volume button with "Mixer cannot be found" and I now cannot go online with the laptop.. N I C E
[20:00] <marat> Hello
[20:00] <marat> anyone using KDE 4?
[20:02] <cn28h> Is it possible to mount a vfat partition from a Gutsy livecd?
[20:03] <cn28h> I'm getting that it's an unknown filesystem
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> cn28h: should be.
[20:03] <marat> any armenians here around?
[20:04] <cn28h> nosrednaekim: suggestions as to how?
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> cn28h: not if it gives you that error
[20:04] <cn28h> hrm, odd that a livecd wouldn't have support for fat32 filesystems
[20:07] <Hamra> but the kubuntu installer did detect my fat32 file systems! and with the gutsy live CD!
[20:08] <cn28h> I'm not talking aboout if I can see the partition types.. fdisk knows what they are.  I'm talking about actually mounting them
[20:09] <itsjustme> Can someone help me get my  wireless internet back]
[20:11] <cn28h> hrm, there's even mkfs.vfat.. I can make a fat32 filesystem, just not actually use it
[20:13] <Hamra> cn28h, are you sure your partition isnt corrupted?
[20:13] <cn28h> Hamra: yes
[20:13] <Ax-Ax> is there any lyrics script for amarok  that searches darklyrics.com? (i'm to bad to do my own)
[20:13] <cn28h> Hamra: being corrupted wouldn't make it say that vfat is an unknown fs type though, anyway :/
[20:13] <hydrogen> check kde-apps.org Ax-Ax
[20:14] <cn28h> I think for some reason vfat mounting support is just not included
[20:14] <Hamra> did you use dynamic disks in windows?
[20:14] <cn28h> I didn't use it in windows
[20:14] <cn28h> it's an external HDD and I'm just trying to image a disk on this machine
[20:16] <cn28h> well, it does have ext3 support, guess I'll just move the disk image to my ext3 partition
[20:16] <Ax-Ax> hydrogen, thanks
[20:17] <Jortmans> I think I've got a bit of a problem
[20:17] <Ax-Ax> but i need to install qtruby, tkruby or somethingotherruby
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: what is it?
[20:18] <VilleVicious> I think I've messed up the computer I'm using really bad, I was trying to set up a kubuntu partition for my self on my parent's computer but now the only system I can get up and running is the Kububtu, and even that is with some hocus-pokus
[20:18] <Jortmans> oops
[20:18] <Jortmans> several program suddenly shut down
[20:18] <VilleVicious> so How do I wipe out all the linux elements so I can re-install the windows?
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> VilleVicious: messed up grub?
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> VilleVicious: windows will wipe the linux elements
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> :D
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> happy
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> *happily
[20:19] <VilleVicious> ok, so I don't have to do enything about the ext3 partition?
[20:20] <Hamra> windows wipes everything, no respect to any other OS!
[20:20] <VilleVicious> well, why am I not really uprised about that
[20:21] <Hamra> the windows installation will say its an unknown partition, you can format it ntfs, or delete or partitions and recreate them!
[20:21] <the-erm> I have a weird question ... when I run mplayer I usually can mplayer partialFilename<tab> and it'll complete, however it doesn't do this with .m4v files, but mplayer plays m4v fine.  Where/how would you associate the file with mplayer?
[20:21] <itsjustme> can someone help me get my wireless internet back?
[20:21] <the-erm> For the record file association in konqueror doesn't do it.
[20:22] <Jortmans> nosrednaekim: several programms suddenly shutdown, without warning. and sometimes I am automaticaly logged out
[20:22] <VilleVicious> My Current situtation is: the only way I can currently get to the OS selection is by booting from a windowscd then exit the installer when it restarts I get to the selection and the only option that works is Kubuntu
[20:23] <cn28h> the-erm: see /etc/bash_completion
[20:23] <the-erm> thanks cn28h
[20:23] <itsjustme> I have a new laptop toshiba and earlier I was tring to get sound on it... we went to great lenths and unfortunetly failed to get the desired result.. Also after rebooting now I have no internet on my laptop...Can someone please help me get it back
[20:24] <Jortmans> could somebody help me, several programms suddenly shutdown, without warning. and sometimes I am automaticaly logged out
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: overheating?
[20:24] <VilleVicious> So I think its safest ( as in the only thing I can do with reasonable hope of success) is the re-installing windows
[20:24] <Code_Man65> Hey, anyone here able to tell me if the Ubuntu Wiki page on the g15 keyboard is still the proper steps to follow?
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: what does "iwlist <net dev> scan" say?
[20:25] <Hamra> you can boot windows cd, and click R, do a fixboot, and fixmbr
[20:25] <Jortmans> no, it sometimes gives an error but not everytime and I'm just logged out the pc doesn't shut down
[20:25] <VilleVicious> Hamra: was that directed at me?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: take a look at "dmesg" when that happens,
[20:26] <Jortmans> ?
[20:26] <itsjustme> iwlist
[20:27] <itsjustme> looks like it didnt detect anything
[20:28] <DjDarkman> hello, how can I debug dpkg? there`s a KDM that just won`t install and doesn`t give a clue about the problem
[20:28] <Hamra> yes
[20:28] <Hamra> fixmbr deletes grub
[20:28] <itsjustme> theres a ton of confusing stuff\
[20:28] <itsjustme> quality 31/100
[20:29] <VilleVicious> ok, thanks for the advice
[20:29] <podr0znik> how do I go to the configuration window, to set up default applications for some action???
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: seems it detected it then
[20:31] <DjDarkman> Setting up kdm (4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1) ...
[20:31] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure):
[20:31] <DjDarkman>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:31] <itsjustme> so now what
[20:31] <itsjustme> ?
[20:31] <DjDarkman> what does this mean?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: try a "sudo dhclient <net dev>"
[20:31] <SSJ_GZ> Woah - http://digg.com/linux_unix/Kubuntu_8_04_will_have_KDE_4_will_NOT_be_LTS
[20:31] <itsjustme> do I type the <net dev>also
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: it will be either eth1 orath0
[20:32] <podr0znik> could anybody remind me of the command to get to this configuration page???
[20:33] <itsjustme> looks like its seeing etho0 and 1
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: try 1
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: woah!
[20:33] <itsjustme> how
[20:33] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Quite a surprise :)
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: "sudo dhclient eth1"
[20:34] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Still a little unclear on the details, though.
[20:34] <itsjustme> what do you mean try 1?
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: yeah, I'd try to confirm that with Riddel
[20:34] <itsjustme> ok
[20:34] <matttis> !de
[20:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:35] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, any experience with the new firefox3 offering ?
[20:35] <itsjustme> no such device
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: nope
[20:35] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: do a "iwconfig"
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> and see which device it is
[20:36] <itsjustme> ok
[20:36] <itsjustme> unassociated essid   it sees it
[20:36] <itsjustme> managed
[20:36] <itsjustme> link quality 0  signal level 0 noise 0
[20:37] <itsjustme> no wireless extentions
[20:37] <itsjustme> its etho 1
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: ok, but what interface is it?
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> eth1?
[20:38] <itsjustme> i think so
[20:38] <itsjustme> its sees my router on 1
[20:38] <blekos> is there a special channel for kde 4?
[20:38] <itsjustme> no wireless on 0
[20:38] <Kroatia> hello... how to register my nickname?
[20:38] <itsjustme> no wireless extentions on etho 0
[20:39] <BluesKaj> !register | Kroatia
[20:39] <ubotu> Kroatia: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: ok.... do you have encryption on your router?
[20:39] <itsjustme> y
[20:40] <itsjustme> wep
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: ok, it seems nothing is wrong with your wireless... do you have internet on that computer?wired?
[20:40] <itsjustme> Im talking to you
[20:41] <itsjustme> from the wired
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: another computer possible
[20:41] <itsjustme> the laptop is wireless
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: ok. then get the application "wlassistant"
[20:41] <itsjustme> ill flash drive it
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: thought you were on wired.
[20:42] <itsjustme> i am  but how will that help my wireless
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: it will, its probably just aproblem with knetworkmanager
[20:43] <LjL> !nickspam | croat
[20:43] <ubotu> croat: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[20:43] <itsjustme> no useable wireless devices found
[20:45] <Hamra> it doesnt seem that this sparx croat whatever is paying attention
[20:45] <itsjustme> now what
[20:46] <sparX_irc_1> i am setting up account
[20:46] <itsjustme> I clicked on knetwork manager and nothing came up..  looked in add remove and it reports there
[20:47] <hight_3> how many server messages...
[20:48] <itsjustme> nosrednaekim   any ideas?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: yeah
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> itsjustme: I havetago... sorry
[20:50] <Lacrymology> hello
[20:50] <podr0znik> could anybody remind me of the command to get to this configuration page???
[20:50] <Lacrymology> pretty please with sugar on top, can someone help me setting up my audio drivers?
[20:50] <Lacrymology> lshw says this:
[20:51] <Lacrymology>      *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[20:51] <Lacrymology>           description: Audio device
[20:51] <Lacrymology>           product: MCP55 High Definition Audio
[20:51] <Lacrymology> and goes on
[20:51] <Lacrymology> I can't find the drivers
[20:51] <hight_3> did you tried google?
[20:51] <podr0znik> I am searching for this configuration program, the more advanced version than System Settings in KDE
[20:51] <podr0znik> wasn't it something like kconfig?
[20:52] <Lacrymology> hight_3: yes I have
[20:52] <ardchoille> podr0znik: kcontrol
[20:52] <Lacrymology> hight_3: I'm at it, actually
[20:52] <podr0znik> yeah, that's the one, thanks :)
[20:52] <itsjustme> yea   thanks anyway
[20:52] <ardchoille> podr0znik: fyi, kcontrol is gone in kde4, so we ned to get used to system settings
[20:54] <podr0znik> ardchoille: all nice, but kcontrol has many more possibilities, hasn't it?
[20:54] <Lacrymology> 2.6.20 worked fine, but gutsy won't let me go down
[20:55] <ardchoille> podr0znik: The reasoning is that system settings won't be duplicating config which can be found elsewhere , ie konqueror > settings > configure konqueror
[20:56] <hungrymouse> why do settings i change in ksynaptics not stay changed when i restart X?
[20:57] <daffa> !burning
[20:57] <blekos> hello
[20:57] <blekos> anyone using kde4?
[20:57] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:58] <hight_3> i will be
[20:58] <hight_3> for...21 days :)
[20:58] <hight_3> exactly 3 weeks from now..
[20:58] <DjDarkman> can someone help me solve an apt/dpgk issue?
[20:59] <hight_3> and that is..?
[20:59] <podr0znik> ardchoille: Well, I suppose there will still be a place to change settings which are not available in the basic system settings
[20:59] <podr0znik> anyway
[20:59] <podr0znik> I'm trying to download pictures from a digital camera for a friend, and it looks like I need to download drivers somehow
[20:59] <podr0znik> my own camera is recognized perfectly well, but this friend's one doesn't work
[20:59] <DjDarkman> Setting up kdm (4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1) ...
[20:59] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure):
[20:59] <DjDarkman>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:59] <DjDarkman> how can I get more msg out of this?
[20:59] <hight_3> i think you can't do that... i haved the same problem when istalled x64..
[21:00] <hight_3> apt you say?
[21:00] <hight_3> let me see
[21:00] <gonzalo> hello
[21:00] <DjDarkman> something terminating with exit status 1 doesn`t give me a clue
[21:00] <gonzalo> in need help to configure my sound card
[21:00] <ardchoille> podr0znik: That's the idea
[21:01] <hight_3> i dont know either... try to geet another copy...something is obviously wrong with the script...
[21:02] <gonzalo> im a newie user
[21:02] <ardchoille> !sound | gonzalo
[21:02] <ubotu> gonzalo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:02] <hight_3> which sound card do you have?
[21:02] <gonzalo> realtek
[21:02] <gonzalo> te sound is on :P
[21:02] <hight_3> i have it too. works just fine
[21:02] <hungrymouse> !ksynaptics
[21:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:02] <gonzalo> but it dosent sound
[21:03] <cn28h> !ksynaptic
[21:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:03] <hight_3> did you tried turn on the speakers? :D
[21:03] <cn28h> !botsnack
[21:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:03] <gonzalo> tanksyou
[21:03] <hight_3> just kidding
[21:03] <cn28h> haha
[21:03] <hungrymouse> lol
[21:03] <hight_3> !bot
[21:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:03] <hight_3> !snack
[21:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:03] <hungrymouse> !ubotu
[21:03] <Lacrymology> I have my computer set up with the x86 kernels because I needed a 32b enviroment, long story
[21:03] <Lacrymology> how hard would it be?
[21:03] <hight_3> !botsnack
[21:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:04] <Lacrymology> to make it a X64
[21:04] <hight_3> you can't just "make" it...
[21:04] <hight_3> look, my camera didint worked on x64...
[21:04] <hungrymouse> !life
[21:04] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:04] <hight_3> but id did on x86
[21:04] <hungrymouse> haha
[21:04] <Lacrymology> hight_3: will need to reinstall, won't I?
[21:04] <hungrymouse> this bot is great :P
[21:04] <hight_3> Lacry: yes..
[21:05] <DjDarkman> how can I specify a version when I`m trying to remove something with apt?
[21:05] <jussi01> !botabuse | hungrymouse hight_3
[21:05] <ubotu> hungrymouse hight_3: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:05] <hungrymouse> jussi01: thanks.
[21:05] <Lacrymology> hight_3: what if I change to the -generic kernels?
[21:05] <DjDarkman> I want to remove KDM 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1
[21:05] <hight_3> i dont know
[21:05] <hight_3> to remove?
[21:05] <hight_3> sudo apt-get --r kdm
[21:06] <hight_3> try it
[21:06] <DjDarkman> yes but I want to remove this version, I want to specify it
[21:07] <hight_3> i dunno, try something else... go to ubuntuforums..
[21:07] <hight_3> !register
[21:07] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[21:08] <jussi01> DjDarkman: man apt-get ;)
[21:08] <hight_3> !login
[21:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about login - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:08] <DjDarkman> that`s what I`m doing, but taught that I can get a faster answer here jussi01
[21:10] <jussi01> DjDarkman: We have limited help in here as it is - and you learn more by reading the man pages.
[21:10] <jussi01> ;)
[21:10] <hight_3> have to go, bye
[21:10] <DjDarkman> yeah but some man pages don`t contain much needed information, because the author assumes that the reader already knows that
[21:11] <limac> hi
[21:12] <podr0znik> this is naughty :(
[21:12] <podr0znik> apparently I must install drivers to get pictures from my friend's camera
[21:12] <podr0znik> but I can't just find them
[21:12] <podr0znik> anybody wants to help?
[21:13] <limac> I downlaodded a background for my desktop from firefox (intenet) and after restart the picture is gone! how can i fix this
[21:13] <limac> ???
[21:13] <jussi01> podr0znik: are you suggesting we help you with something illegal?
[21:13] <podr0znik> jussi01: I have a camera of my friend here and she asked me to get the pictures to the computer and then online. Don't know what's illegal there :)
[21:14] <cn28h> limac: where did you save it?
[21:14] <jussi01> podr0znik: ok. you just said it was naughty
[21:14] <limac> in home folder
[21:14] <podr0znik> jussi01: Yeah, naughty of Panasonic not to simply offer drivers on their website
[21:14] <limac> cn28h ^
[21:14] <cn28h> you're running off an installed kubuntu, not a livecd, right?
[21:14] <jussi01> podr0znik: ahhh
[21:15] <podr0znik> so I checked panasonic.com and google and still not any further :/
[21:15] <jussi01> podr0znik: have you tried just plugging it in?
[21:16] <podr0znik> yes
[21:16]  * lombra_ esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.
[21:16] <jussi01> podr0znik: often they mount like a usb stick
[21:16] <podr0znik> my camera does indeed
[21:16] <podr0znik> no problem at all
[21:16] <podr0znik> but this camera doesn't want
[21:17] <podr0znik> they are offering full instructions about the camera on their site
[21:17] <podr0znik> that's so kind of them :)
[21:18] <podr0znik> but no drivers
[21:18] <uakkeri> i'm getting a crash report when using konquerer "the application unknown (nspluginviewer) crashed... SIGSEGV..."
[21:18] <podr0znik> Dolphin even said - "loading camera drivers from /usr/lib"
[21:18] <podr0znik> but obviously it didn't find any drivers there
[21:19] <jussi01> podr0znik: and it doesnt show up in /media ?
[21:22] <podr0znik> jussi01: It does (after some time) but without any files
[21:22] <podr0znik> but there is an error
[21:22] <podr0znik> "Unknown error code 50", "Unspecified error", "Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org."
[21:22] <jussi01> podr0znik: hmmm
[21:24] <podr0znik> I hope there's not such thing as a camera which is only compatible with windows? ;)
[21:25] <Hamra> podr0znik, i hope you watch what you are saying, hardware people might start getting ideas :P
[21:25] <podr0znik> the damn machine IS recognized as USB mass storage device
[21:25] <podr0znik> and it even has an icon of a camera
[21:25] <podr0znik> but does not want to open
[21:26] <podr0znik> Hamra: I would feel guilty until my last days if my suggestion would be picked up by the big guys...
[21:26] <steveire> podr0znik: Can you access it as root?
[21:26] <fairman> Hi, how to create new wifi network?
[21:27] <Hamra> i once had a similar problem with a USB flash disk formatted as NTFS, it kept crashing "disks and filesystems"
[21:27] <lovedeatm> My flash drive wont pickup. it not visible in fstab or mtab
[21:27] <podr0znik> steveire: trying
[21:29] <lovedeatm> My flash drive wont pickup. it not visible in fstab or mtab it shows up in the disk and file system
[21:33] <cap601> Is there anyway to make Kopete only start after connecting to my wireless network?
[21:34] <podr0znik> I think I'm getting crazy
[21:34] <podr0znik> trying to login as root from command line (su)
[21:34] <lovedeatm> My flash drive wont pickup. it not visible in fstab or mtab it shows up in the disk and file system
[21:34] <podr0znik> Authentication failure :)
[21:34] <podr0znik> but I remember my password pretty well
[21:35] <Lacrymology> podr0znik: your password's not root's password
[21:35] <Lacrymology> podr0znik: not in ubuntu anyways
[21:35] <Lacrymology> podr0znik: do 'sudo bash"
[21:35] <Lacrymology> podr0znik: and then forget that it was me who suggested that
[21:35] <trappist> ew.  I'd rather sudo su -
[21:35] <Lacrymology> trappist: but you don't know root's passowrd
[21:35] <trappist> Lacrymology: that's why I use sudo
[21:36] <trappist> try it
[21:36] <Hamra> dont type "su", use "sudo su"
[21:36] <podr0znik> with the command somebody suggested (don't remember who) I go as root with my own password?
[21:36] <trappist> sudo su -
[21:36] <trappist> but mostly, don't do that
[21:36] <Lacrymology> trappist: that's nice
[21:36] <trappist> just do sudo <command>
[21:36] <itsjustme> what gets added before the http when updating the repository sites?
[21:37] <Lacrymology> trappist: that's a pain sometimes. There's times you need to be root for a while
[21:37] <trappist> Lacrymology: yeah, that's why I said 'mostly' :)
[21:38] <Lacrymology> so, has anybody else have their sound die with gutsy/2.6.22 kernel?
[21:38] <podr0znik> in /media I only see cdrom and floppy
[21:38] <trappist> Lacrymology: if you have an intel hda soundcard, yeah
[21:39] <Lacrymology> trappist: I have an ASUS nVidia chipset soundcard
[21:39] <Lacrymology> trappist: mobo, I mean
[21:39] <Lacrymology> with an nVidia soundcard
[21:39] <podr0znik> media:/camera I don't find
[21:39] <itsjustme> what gets added before the http when updating the repository sites?  i think its dev something
[21:39] <trappist> nvidia soundcard?  I don't think so... try lspci | grep -i audio
[21:40] <trappist> itsjustme: deb
[21:40] <Lacrymology> trappist: 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[21:40] <Lacrymology> trappist: 00:06.1 Audio device: *nVidia* Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[21:40] <trappist> Lacrymology: ok ok :)
[21:40] <itsjustme> thx
[21:40] <Lacrymology> it won't work
[21:40] <trappist> Lacrymology: I *think* that's an intel chipset, but I'm not positive
[21:41] <Lacrymology> anyways, I'm out of options
[21:41] <Lacrymology> I don't know what to do anymore
[21:41] <trappist> Lacrymology: at any rate, your best bet is to google up that chipset and see what other people have found
[21:42] <trappist> Lacrymology: like, google 'gutsy nvidia mcp55'
[21:42] <ubuntu_> Is there a tool that will inspect the system hardware to determine what everything is? (sorta like WinInfo32 on Windows)
[21:42] <trappist> ubuntu_: try lshw
[21:43] <ubuntu_> cool; exactly what I needed; thanks, trappist
[21:44] <podr0znik> I give up :)
[21:44] <podr0znik> friend should buy another camera
[21:44] <lovedeatm> trappist,what the delete command
[21:44] <trappist> lovedeatm: rm
[21:44] <trappist> lovedeatm: man intro
[21:44] <lovedeatm> thanks
[21:47] <megatog615> Does anyone know how I can get konqueror to wait for all FTP connections to end before doing another?
[21:47] <megatog615> Like forcing it to keep one connection
[21:47] <megatog615> My web host (godaddy) has a max connections of 1
[21:47] <megatog615> Which is extremely annoying since konqueror seems to want more than one connection
[21:50]  * Hamra is going to sleep
[21:55] <Lacrymology> ok, is there any way of compiling the kernel myself under this distro?
[21:58] <stdin> !kernel | Lacrymology
[21:58] <ubotu> Lacrymology: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:02] <cap601> Is there anyway to make Kopete only start after connecting to my wireless network?
[22:02] <sigma_kubuntu> dont think so
[22:03] <sigma_kubuntu> does it make a difference when it starts?
[22:03] <vzduch> you can write a script
[22:05] <cap601> The main problem is that I need to tell it to manually connect if the internet is not connected when it starts
[22:05] <cap601> This also has a tendancy to need multiple attempts
[22:07] <msemtd_> I'm trying to upgrade feisty to gutsy but I'm getting dpkg errors
[22:07] <msemtd_> invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[22:08] <msemtd_> followed by a bunch of dependency errors
[22:08] <msemtd_> I'm all out of ideas
[22:08] <msemtd_> !apt
[22:08] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[22:09] <msemtd_> !aptitude
[22:09] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[22:10] <bobleny> Hi, could someone tell me what an ACM device is?
[22:12] <steveire> bobleny: Syncing your phone?
[22:13] <lovedeatm> My flash drive wont pickup. it not visible in fstab or mtab it shows up in the disk and file system HELP!!
[22:13] <bobleny> Trying to..... But I think I have the wrong ACM device, there is no /dev/ttyACM....
[22:14] <steveire> bobleny: I'm not sure what it is. What are you using? kitchensync?
[22:14] <lovedeatm> anybody?
[22:15] <bobleny> stevire: Moto4lin
[22:15] <helloyo> hey, guys. i just had to reinstall XP which has written over GRUB, i am running off the CD now, can i restore grub?
[22:15] <ardchoille> !grub | helloyo
[22:15] <ubotu> helloyo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:15] <helloyo> thanks ardchoille
[22:16] <ardchoille> yw
[22:18] <limac> i just installed a theme for emerald thru kde-looks.org and i don't know how to apply it. if i double click it, it doesn't work!
[22:18] <limac> :/
[22:19] <trappist> limac: you install it through emerald-theme-manager
[22:19] <limac> i did!
[22:19] <limac> i mean like the windows border
[22:20] <limac> it's not changing thru emerald
[22:20] <trappist> OH I misunderstood the question.  actually I have the same problem :)
[22:21] <ubuntu_> Wow Kubuntu has changed since 6.10
[22:21] <ubuntu_> Detected few things automaticly :D
[22:22] <limac> so how can i change it?
[22:22] <trappist> limac: I dunno, it hasn't bothered me enough to try to solve it yet
[22:22] <trappist> limac: but now that you know you're not the only one, there's a good chance google knows about it
[22:23] <limac> nm i figured it out,  click on the border and then configure windows behavior, and then edit the windowes decoration
[22:24] <trappist> there ya go :)
[22:26] <limac> but how can we add some decorations
[22:26] <limac> ?
[22:30] <Skippy07> how do i go about dual booting vista and kubutu on seperate drives i can't find a guide anywhere
[22:30] <jpatrick> !dualboot
[22:30] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:31] <msemtd_> !dpkg
[22:31] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[22:34] <drbobb> how is it that java is always set to off in my new konqueror windows/tabs
[22:34] <Skippy07> Thanks ubotu
[22:34] <drbobb> anyone else seeing that?
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: can you enable it in those tabs? or is it limited to one tab/window?
[22:35] <Newbie1> I have a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 the side buttons do not seem to work
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !mounse
[22:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !mouse
[22:35] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[22:35] <drbobb> yes i can enable it via tools/html settings, and it works
[22:36] <drbobb> but any time i create a new window or tab, it has java set to off again
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: thats probably a bug
[22:37] <drbobb> i do have java set to enabled globally in konqueror setings
[22:37] <drbobb> settings
[22:37] <Newbie1>  How can I make the TASKBAR just 1 line?
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: makde the panel thinner
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> *make
[22:38] <Newbie1> Thanks
[22:38] <Newbie1> I figured it out
[22:38] <drbobb> nosrednaekim: maybe, but i can't put my finger on it because it doesn't seem to happen on other kubuntu machines
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: oh.. hm
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: :D
[22:39] <drbobb> i can't find the way to reproduce it
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> I don't use java so I can't
[22:39] <drbobb> or to get rid of the nuisance on my laptop, for that matter
[22:40] <drbobb> it's not a matter of you using java but of sites that you use using it
[22:40] <Newbie1> Last I tried was Ubuntu 6.10, Kubuntu  has more eye candy and it seems my devices work, I will need to get the printer to work as well
[22:40] <Newbie1> That might be the most problematic
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: is it an HP?
[22:40] <drbobb> you might not even be aware of java being in use
[22:41] <Newbie1> Brother DCP 330C
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: ok... let me take a look
[22:41] <Newbie1> The problem will be the fact it can print photos (I mean proper ones) as well as normal A4 paper
[22:42] <msemtd_> leave
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: usually  the drivers have support for different trays
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersBrother:
[22:43] <drbobb> ok another one i meant to ask: where to start loooking for reasons that suspend mode is failing
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: are you using the fglrx driver?
[22:44] <drbobb> nope
[22:44] <Newbie1> Can I share the Printer from my Desktop using Linux to other XP computers?
[22:44] <drbobb> i have a SiS integrated vga
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> Newbie1: yes.
[22:44] <sigma_kubuntu> i think u can through cups
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: well, I think there is a suspend dbug.
[22:45] <Newbie1> Cool
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: thats only for Vista
[22:45] <Newbie1> I will need to figure out how to do that as well
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> XP needs smba
[22:45] <drbobb> ok let me clarify what i mean by failing
[22:45] <drbobb> machine seems to suspend to ram ok, and seems to come back up too
[22:45] <drbobb> but a minute or two after coming back up, the system freezes
[22:46] <sigma_kubuntu> oh yeah i forgot about samba :)
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: can you quickly run a top or something like that to see whatis runnning when it freezes?
[22:46] <Newbie1> Well thanks, I might install Kubuntu now
[22:46] <drbobb> i did and i fail to see any runaway process
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3066404
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: could be a USB problem..
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: maybe running out of memory aswell?
[22:48] <drbobb> no, memory is ok
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> ok
[22:48] <drbobb> btw suspend to disk works 100% correctly
[22:48] <drbobb> the reverse of what it used to be under feisty
[22:49] <whiteda> I am getting a Size mismatch error trying to upgrade to amarok 2:1.4.8 and amarok-xine 2:1.4.8 using sudo apt-get upgrade.  Should I just wait and try later/tomorrow?
[22:49] <drbobb> i have a system monitor in my kicker all the time
[22:50] <drbobb> and i can see that just before the freeze there is no cpu activity in particular, and plenty of free swap
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: thats wierd.... anything in the syslogs at all?
[22:50] <sigma_kubuntu> how do i change the program that a multimedia key on my keyboard opens?
[22:51] <drbobb> hmm well i do have issues with my ethernet driver
[22:52] <drbobb> irq 3: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
[22:52] <usr002> Hi mates
[22:52] <drbobb> is the kernel message
[22:52] <usr002> wassup
[22:52] <usr002> i need some help here
[22:52] <usr002> can anyone
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: did you try booting with that?
[22:53] <drbobb> oh and the driver is eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0x1800, IRQ 3
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> usr002: whats the problem
[22:53] <drbobb> nosrednaekim: well i am using that boot option
[22:53] <drbobb> seems to make no difference though
[22:53] <drbobb> the ethernet does not work reliably at all
[22:54] <drbobb> luckily i rarely need to use it, i'm on wireless mostly
[22:55] <usr002> i got this plugin problem
[22:55] <usr002> i can install mp3 support for amarok
[22:55] <usr002> anyone
[22:56] <usr002> i've tried the normal repositories
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> usr002: you can install it?
[22:56] <usr002> no ..
[22:56] <usr002> amarok says that is installed
[22:56] <usr002> but when i try to play mp3's they won't
[22:57] <limac> how can i make my ternimal transparent
[22:57] <limac> ?
[22:57] <usr002> ask me to install again
[22:57] <root_> OMG. its the same base topic as I have to ask about
[22:57] <white_eagle> hello, I have a slow connection (problems with my ISP), it's 12 pm at me and I have downloaded a half of the kubuntu-desktop package, can I cancel it, and continue from the place where I stopped?
[22:57] <abcd> Do you have any problems with playing broadband movies on websites. I have no problem with playing them on Windows XP with Windows Media Player. When i switch to Ubuntu the same multimedia are buffering every one minute. I use kmplayer with xine (or sometimes mplayer engine). Any advices?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> usr002: ok  install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> white_eagle: yes
[22:57] <white_eagle> i have 2.30 hours left
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> white_eagle: you can cancle and restart at any time
[22:58] <white_eagle> nosrednaekim: and it will surely continue tommorw?
[22:58] <usr002> nosred ... kubuntu restricted-extras ...
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> white_eagle: yes
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:58] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[22:58] <white_eagle> nosrednaekim: thanks
[22:59] <usr002> thank's
[22:59] <usr002> istalling it
[22:59] <usr002> * installing
[22:59] <munition> hello, I seem to  have no repositories installed, other than the CD it was born with
[23:00] <munition> can anyone help me, please?
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> !sourceomatic
[23:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[23:01] <munition> wow. that may hopefully resolve this. that took moments to respond. ty
[23:01] <limac> anyone? how can i make konsole transparent?
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> limac: its simple, change the schema to transparent linux colors
[23:02] <drbobb> aah that's another q i had
[23:03] <usr002> same problem
[23:03] <limac> thnks nosrednaekim
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> usr002: you sure they aren't encrypted mp3?
[23:03] <drbobb> what determines the default schema for new konsole tabs?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: you need to save it as the deafult schema
[23:04] <drbobb> well i do that as many times as i want
[23:04] <drbobb> but the setting seems not to stick
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: doesn't save it?
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: my brother had the same exact problem! I can't reproduce it though
[23:04] <drbobb> well it gets weirder
[23:05] <drbobb> right now i created a new tab and it did get the schema i had set
[23:05] <usr002> nosred: have i got to restart the machine
[23:05] <drbobb> but i bet that after the next rebboot it won; work again
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> usr002: no
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> usr002: are they drmed? where did you get them from?
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> usr002: you do need to restart amarok...
[23:06] <drbobb> i've been struggling with this issue across several kde versions now
[23:06] <usr002> via samba ... from my windows machine
[23:06] <drbobb> ok struggling is too big a word, it's a minor nuisance
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> usr002: did you get them from itunes?
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: :D
[23:07] <drbobb> a less minor nuisance is the flash breakage
[23:07] <usr002> no
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> usr002: try playing a local mp3
[23:07] <usr002> i've got this mp3 a long time
[23:08] <usr002> i got this songs in this machine
[23:08] <usr002> i got them via samba
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> usr002: do they play?
[23:08] <drbobb> right now i need firefox to access any flash site, konq doesn't work
[23:08] <usr002> no
[23:08] <usr002> in the windows machine they do play
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> usr002: did you restart amarok?
[23:08] <usr002> yeps
[23:09] <usr002> i'll try to reboot the machine
[23:09] <usr002> what can i do
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> usr002: no no... that won't fix a thing
[23:10] <usr002> maybe if uninstall amarok
[23:10] <usr002> and i reeinstall it
[23:10] <usr002> again
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> usr002: no no...what error does it give when you try to play your mp3?
[23:11] <usr002> nosred .. wasn't possible to play some media (not suported)
[23:11] <usr002> or so
[23:11] <usr002> i got this in portuguese
[23:12] <usr002> so the translation may be diferent
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> usr002: you CERTAIN its an mp3?
[23:12] <usr002> oh yeah
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> !mpg123
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpg123 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> !info mpg123
[23:12] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.66-1 (gutsy), package size 141 kB, installed size 344 kB
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> usr002: get that package^^
[23:13] <Downix_SPARC> you know, autoconf is a real pain
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> usr002: and run it like so "mpg123 <location of file>"
[23:13] <usr002> ok thank you
[23:13] <usr002> i'll try it
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> usr002: just to see what the problem is
[23:14] <usr002> ko
[23:14] <usr002> ok
[23:14] <usr002> The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight.mp3
[23:15] <usr002> for instance
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> usr002: if you are in it dir and put quotes around it
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> like ----- mpg123 "The Tokens - The Lions Sleeps Tonight.mp3"
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> the quote are neccesary since there are spaces
[23:17] <usr002> ok
[23:17] <greg> Don't suppose anyone could help me with an apt / Adept Manager problem ?
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> greg: whats the problem?
[23:18] <greg> nosrednaekim: Basically it was configured by a friend to run on my college network and now that i'm at home with a direct connection I can't get it to connect ?
[23:19] <Downix_SPARC> Is anyone here good at autoconfig setup?
[23:19] <olimpico> How can i install Kubuntu completely remote on another computer?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> greg: proxy?
[23:20] <olimpico> Could someone give me an idea?
[23:20] <usr002> xine-engine cannot play MP3s
[23:20] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: Do you have a network bios?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> usr002: hmm <_<
[23:21] <greg> nosrednaekim: Yeah, it's set to run through the college proxy, but I can't see any signs of the settings in apt.conf
[23:21] <olimpico> Someone has a gentoo system running, and i want to install kubuntu instead. I can login to the gentoo system, is it possible to install kubuntu?
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> greg: you'd really need to ask your freind
[23:21] <usr002> and now what can i do ??
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> olimpico: maybe chroot it...
[23:21] <usr002> get another xine engine
[23:21] <usr002> lol
[23:21] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: You'd have to install Ubuntu over Gentoo really, which in all likelyhood will erase the system.
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> usr002: eight cylinder one this time ;)
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> usr002: one moment..
[23:22] <greg> nosrednaekim: I don't really have anyway of contacting him :( thanks for the help anyway ^_^
[23:22] <usr002> ok thank u
[23:22] <usr002> nos
[23:22] <olimpico> There are two hardrives, I can leave gentoo, installed, that's not the problem
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> !aptproxy
[23:22] <ubotu> apt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[23:22] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: So you want to install to the other drive?
[23:22] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: What is network bios?
[23:22] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: Do you have access to a CD-ROM on the system?
[23:23] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: yes, just in case it doesn't work all right, I don't want to delete gentoo.
[23:23] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: Ability to boot a machine w/o any OS on it at all, instead fetching the OS over the network.   That's how I installed Kubuntu on my SPARC
[23:23] <Downix_SPARC> olimpico: Easiest way then would be to put in a Ubuntu CD, and unplug your gentoo HD
[23:23] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: Yes, my mother(who doesn't have a clue) can access the computer
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> usr002: run this command "apt-cache policy libxine1-ffmpeg"
[23:24] <drbobb> greg: try grepping for proxy around /etc/apt perhaps?
[23:24] <usr002> none installed
[23:24] <greg> drbobb: I'll give it a go.
[23:24] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: But apparently kubuntu is not able to start the graphical system
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> usr002: try installing it..
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> usr002: "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[23:25] <usr002> ok
[23:25] <olimpico> I inteneded to connect through krfb.
[23:25] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: I intended to connect through krfb.
[23:26] <usr002> can't install
[23:26] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: I can't unplugg the gentoo HD, my mother doesn't know how to do this
[23:26] <usr002> libxine1-ffmpeg ain't available
[23:26] <usr002> but has references to another package
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> usr002: you need to enable the restricted repository
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> !restricted
[23:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> usr002: never mind... you using gutsy?
[23:27] <olimpico> Downix_SPARC: I was thinking that there is maybe a way to install it through the console.
[23:28] <olimpico> Anybody can tell me how to install kubuntu though the console?
[23:28] <usr002> 7.10
[23:28] <olimpico> mmmmmm
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> usr002: ok, go into adept->adept->amange repositories and enable all of them (except source code) then  click the reload button on the main page.
[23:29] <greg> drbobb: No results for proxy...
[23:30]  * podr0znik back
[23:30] <podr0znik> problem with camera has been solved
[23:30] <podr0znik> just had to go to a bloody Windows computer
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know how to get Amarok to sync to a Cowon media player?
[23:32] <usr002> and now
[23:32] <usr002> install libxine
[23:32] <drbobb> greg: before you give up, try case-insensitive search
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> usr002: libxine-ffmpeg
[23:33] <greg> drbobb: -i ?
[23:33] <drbobb> y
[23:33] <greg> (Y)
[23:33] <usr002> well
[23:33] <drbobb> (y)es
[23:33] <usr002> working
[23:34] <usr002> nosred
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> usr002: sweet
[23:34] <usr002> u'r the man
[23:34] <usr002> or woman
[23:34] <usr002> lol
[23:34] <usr002> thank u
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> man.. YW
[23:34] <drbobb> greg: umm btw what error message(s) do you get from apt-get
[23:34] <usr002> my wife can listen to all the mp3
[23:34] <usr002> here
[23:35] <usr002> and stream them to the soundbridge in the living room
[23:36] <usr002> btw what media server
[23:36] <greg> drbobb: No error as such, it just sits at '[Connecting to franc.cc.strath.ac.uk (ip address)]
[23:37] <greg> drbobb: And by sit I mean it keeps on trying.
[23:37] <drbobb> greg: so just replace the sources.list with a standard one?
[23:38] <greg> drbobb: Never thought of that :P Where do you suppose i'd get a standard one ?
[23:38] <drbobb> you're probably trying to connect to servers that aren't available from outside
[23:39] <drbobb> umm maybe you could reinstall apt
[23:39] <client2> hallo
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> !sourceomatic
[23:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[23:39] <client2> i'm pushing neh
[23:39] <greg> Sweet !
[23:39] <client2> :D
[23:40] <Downix_SPARC> can someone recommend a good tutorial for configure?  I'm trying to add SPARC to a configure with little luck
[23:41] <greg> drbobb:nosrednaekim: I'll give the source-o-matic a shot, hopefully that'll sort it.
[23:41] <client2> host unknown while i connect the network/internet
[23:41] <client2> help me
[23:42] <pip> #help
[23:42] <client2> if ping ip address i can it
[23:42] <pip> ?help
[23:43] <client2> but browse with domain name i can't
[23:43] <BluesKaj> give us an example
[23:50] <savageone> hey guys
[23:51] <savageone> if I were to apt-get the linux restricted modules, and a different nvidia driver (called legacy) and my machine didn't boot up afterwards anyone know how I could solve it?  It starts to boot and sticks at the splash screen.
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> savageone: can you go to Alt+f2?
[23:52] <NeoFax> savageone: Use a rescue cd and remove the deb package
[23:52] <savageone> you mean control/alt f2?
[23:52] <savageone> to get to another console
[23:52] <savageone> no
[23:52] <savageone> I've never tried just alt-f2
[23:52] <savageone> neofax:  I'm not sure how to that's my thing
[23:52] <savageone> I can get into rescue mode...
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> savageone: yeah...
[23:53] <savageone> can I do that from there
[23:53] <rable> for some reason openoffice is showing most of my menu items in some kind of greek cyrillic gibberish instead of english. is there something I can do to fix this?
[23:53] <savageone> unfortuantely, I'm not skilled enough to be looking for debs hehe
[23:53] <savageone> I'm pretty well versed in linux, but not a lot in trouble shooting etc just in usage and stuff
[23:53] <NeoFax> Then create a directory under temp then mount your / directory to that folder.  Then chroot to that folder.  Make sure if you have seprate mount points in your fstab to make directories for them under the one in the tmp directory then chroot
[23:53] <greg> drbobb: No luck with just replacing the sources, the proxy info must be stored somewhere else..
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> savageone: take a look at the /var/Xorg.0.log
[23:54] <savageone> good idea
[23:54] <savageone> it's an nvidia card
[23:54] <savageone> it all stems from me getting this weird split screen thing happening
[23:54] <savageone> others reported it
[23:54] <savageone> I read about doing an apt get for the legacyt driver
[23:54] <savageone> and it screwed me
[23:54] <drbobb> greg: that's really weird
[23:55] <greg> drbobb: Almost concerning :P
[23:55] <NeoFax> savageone: What nvidia card do you have?
[23:55] <drbobb> are you sure you replaced /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:56] <greg> drbobb: pretty sure, although I did glance at the old one before replacing it and saw no proxy information.
[23:56] <Downix_SPARC> savageone: I had that issue when I initially did the install.  I had to swap drivers
[23:57] <savageone> downix: yeah, that's what I was trying to do!! How did you "swap em"
[23:57] <savageone> hehe
[23:57] <drbobb> but does the site in the message when apt-get is run match what's in the sources.list?
[23:57] <drbobb> or not?
[23:57] <greg> drbobb: I'll give you a read out of what's going on..
[23:57] <Downix_SPARC> savageone: I used the LiveCD to change the startx to stock VGA, un-apt'ed it, then re-downloaded it
[23:57] <savageone> okay
[23:57] <savageone> so how do you UNAPT something
[23:58] <savageone> because I'd like to do that w/ the stuff I apted
[23:58] <savageone> my problem is, the system is a linuxmce system
[23:58] <greg> drbobb:
[23:58] <greg> sudo apt-get update
[23:58] <greg> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg
[23:58] <greg>   Could not connect to franc.cc.strath.ac.uk:8080 (130.159.248.36). - connect (113 No route to host)
[23:58] <savageone> which as you know runs on kubuntu, and it's acting as my rtouter
[23:58] <savageone> and I through out my other router
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> savageone: "apt-get remove whatever"
[23:58] <savageone> so I can't get online at home
[23:58] <savageone> I'm sitting here trying to figure out what the hell to do before I go home
[23:58] <savageone> if I go into rescue mode
[23:58] <drbobb> greg: hmm
[23:58] <savageone> can I still run apt-get
[23:59] <drbobb> wait a few mins
[23:59] <greg> drbobb: np
[23:59] <NeoFax> savageone: Do you know exactly what NVIDIA card you have?
[23:59] <savageone> no unfortunately
[23:59] <savageone> it's a newer pci express one
[23:59] <NeoFax> OK, do lspci and let me know what the NVIDIA line says
[23:59] <savageone> I can't dude