[00:00] <qwaz> Slart: hehe...adblock+ takes care of all those ads.  :)  Thank you very much for your help.
[00:00] <LillBirdy> Nickrud: Yeah but when I browse for a file on let say (reconstructor or any other program) I get to weird libraries and I can't get back to the home/desktop/documents where my real files are.
[00:00] <Slart> qwaz: you're welcome
[00:00] <soundray> TBotNik_u: from glancing over this quickly, he does give good advice. And he does *not* talk about compiling the s3 driver.
[00:00] <backgen> wols: in Ubuntu LiveCD when trying to install Ubuntu
[00:00] <nickrud> sfielder, I remember seeing your link, and two things: I don't know intel chips, and don't have two monitors :)
[00:00] <In_Silico> heh, weird, all the gui folders showed this time when I relaunched gedit
[00:00] <Eagleray> backgen: right - run 'sudo fdisk /dev/hda', and say when
[00:00] <Eagleray> backgen: make sure the disk isn't mounted
[00:01] <Eagleray> backgen: and close gparted if it's open
[00:01] <TBotNik_u> soundray: K, teach me, I obviously am not understanding
[00:01] <wols_> first time I heard of a linux caring about partition types
[00:01] <gonzoism> window next
[00:01] <sfielder> nickrud: thanks. any ideas who or where to ask for more help?
[00:01] <backgen> it says unable to open
[00:01] <nickrud> LillBirdy, ah, ok. on the right of the file manager window, you should see a Places box
[00:01] <backgen> Eagleray: should i close the Installer?
[00:02] <LillBirdy> nickrud: ok, do you mean the location box or a button called places?
[00:02] <nickrud> sfielder, sometimes people with that experience come through here. I'd suggest subscribing to the ubuntu-users mailling list, some smart answers there
[00:02] <Eagleray> backgen: yes please
[00:02] <nickrud> LillBirdy, we are talking about the file broswser, right?
[00:02] <gonzoism> Phusion :)
[00:02] <Phusion> ?
[00:02] <backgen> Eagleray: ok just did, ran the command again and got the same response: "unable to open /dev/hda"
[00:02] <LillBirdy> Nickrud: Yea
[00:03] <Eagleray> backgen: the only thing you should have open is the terminal with fdisk, you don't want anything accessing the disk or you'll have errors writing the partition table
[00:03] <scragar> totem isn't playing my iso files when it used to, has anyone ever had this problem before, and if so how do I fix it(they work fine once burned)
[00:03] <Phusion> did I say something witty and forget?
[00:03] <Eagleray> backgen: did you remember to run 'sudo fdisk' ?
[00:03] <oggie> is there someplace i can get help for setting up my eggdrop
[00:03] <SyntaxError55> Nevermind, I just used the .package offered on InkScape's website.
[00:03] <TBotNik_u> soundray: I've experimented with various depth levels and currently have depth set at 24
[00:03] <backgen> Eagleray: yup
[00:03] <Phusion> oggie: try google, lots of tutorials
[00:03] <gonzoism> Phusion yeah.  i just got back and scrolled up.  not so witty.  just nice. :)
[00:03] <Phusion> oh, what did I say?
[00:03] <nickrud> LillBirdy, I have a pane that shows the current directory's files and folders on the left, and on the right there's a side pane. It has rich, Desktop, Filesystem, etc in it
[00:03] <oggie> i looked at eggheads.org and ./configure doesnt work for the apt-get version
[00:03] <Eagleray> backgen: that's slightly concerning, can you reboot please? (still to the livecd)
[00:03] <gonzoism> Phusion about not being a video guru
[00:04] <Phusion> ohhhh ok.
[00:04] <oggie> i ./eggdrop at the folder and it says no configuration files
[00:04] <backgen> Eagleray: absolutely, be right back
[00:04] <soundray> TBotNik_u: this guy says he can't see an issue with your setup. You say you're on 800x600 -- using gnome?
[00:04] <Phusion> oggie: well.. wait.. what?
[00:04] <Slart> oggie: ./configure is for the source version... when you apt-get something you get the compiled version
[00:04] <Eagleray> backgen: cheers
[00:04] <Phusion> oggie: you need to google, you're missing some steps
[00:04] <Phusion> oggie: this is ubuntu support, not eggdrop
[00:04] <mkz> I've started to notice something rather irritating.  I am developing with NetBeans 5.5.1.  On fairly regular intervals I'm able to observe a java task run away with 99% of CPU and it hangs my netbeans for the duration.  Is there anyway I can track down the source of this issue?  I'm running on Gutsy with the latest update applied...
[00:04] <oggie> ive looked, but i think its exclusive to ubuntu
[00:05] <Phusion> oggie: well, I think you're wrong and you need to look more
[00:05] <fabio> my virtualbox dont detect my dvd rom what i need to do?
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: thanks for helping... hope you see my reasoning for trying to be extra careful
[00:05] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Can PB the xorg.conf.backup and Xorg.0.log.backup.  These are the ones that error out and leave blank screen.  Currently running on xorg.conf.failsafe.
[00:05] <Slart> can't you just run the bot right away? without compiling?
[00:05] <Phusion> oggie: if I type eggdrop configuration ubuntu into google and find something, will you paypal me $500?
[00:05] <hatdude> Hey Hey
[00:05] <hatdude> Quick question
[00:05] <oggie> 500 pesos?
[00:05] <gonzoism> hey hey !  yo yo !
[00:05] <hatdude> How do I have 200 pesos
[00:05] <soundray> TBotNik_u: no, wait
[00:05]  * Slart needs to get some of that google-action.. =)
[00:05] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: indeed I do, any partition table that won't read is cause for concern
[00:06] <hatdude> I mean how do I have 2 foundewrs
[00:06] <ninnghizidha> how to load a kernel-module?
[00:06] <hatdude> founders*
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: yep...
[00:06] <Slart> ninnghizidha: modprobe
[00:06] <ninnghizidha> thnaks a lot!
[00:06] <stacey>  i have the following dependancey error, what should i do  smbclient: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2) but 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 is installed.
[00:06] <hatdude> I mean how do I have 2 founders?
[00:06] <wols_> ninnghizidha: modprobe
[00:06] <fabio> my virtualbox dont detect my dvd rom what i need to do?
[00:06] <Slart> ninnghizidha: lsmod to list modules
[00:06] <soundray> TBotNik_u: what resolution is your panel?
[00:06] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: the fact that fdisk -l works though means that the table is fine, but he should be able to open it
[00:06] <hatdude> How do I have 2 foundewrs?
[00:06] <hatdude> <_<
[00:06] <Slart> hatdude: 2 founders? what are you talking about?
[00:06]  * Phusion plucks out his own eyeballs
[00:06] <hatdude> On my IRC  channel
[00:06] <ninnghizidha> worked like a charm
[00:06] <bazhang> hatdude that makes no sense
[00:07] <TBotNik_u> soundray: All is 800x600 and no other options.
[00:07] <hatdude> You clearly are new to IRC
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: Agreed, but thats also why I didnt just want to stamp the ubuntu install onto that drive
[00:07] <Slart> hatdude: start making sense or we can't help you
[00:07] <hatdude> You don't know what founders are
[00:07] <wols_> hatdude: this is not ubuntu related. ask #freenode or scuh
[00:07] <unbeatabl> it seems on the hosting for godaddy,  index.html does not take precedence over index.php, how can i make it do so?
[00:07] <soundray> TBotNik_u: what is the *native* resolution of your panel?
[00:07] <hatdude> k l8er
[00:07] <hatdude> I just picked a random channel
[00:07] <Phusion> lol
[00:07] <Slart> unbeatabl: ask godaddy if it's their server
[00:07] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I'm starting to wonder the same thing - if fdisk doesn't work properly after this reboot then I think that your DOS solution is maybe the best way, and I'd back up anything important asap
[00:07] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Explain *native*
[00:08] <unbeatabl> i was wondering if theres a .htaccess work around
[00:08] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: if the disk is failing, that's obviously not a good thing for his data
[00:08] <soundray> TBotNik_u: the resolution it was constructed to work with
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: agreed...
[00:08] <wols_> TBotNik_u: a panel works best at a certain resolution all others being interpolated and of lesser qualit
[00:08] <Slart> unbeatabl: oh.. I wouldn't know.. look at the apache docs perhaps
[00:08] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: my usual approach would be to dd the boot sector, but I doubt he has a backup
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: what about dd'ing or tar his windows to the fat32 as a form of backup
[00:09] <TBotNik_u> soundray: You mean the res of the monitor?
[00:09] <soporte> what's up
[00:09] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: no good, it's on the same physical disk
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: I dd all mbr's
[00:09] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: very smart
[00:09] <Phusion> hows it coming backgen
[00:09] <soundray> TBotNik_u: yes
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: Jury is out
[00:09] <backgen> Eagleray: ok just rebooted, i tried the command again...and still same response
[00:10] <ikari> Hi, I have a little problem and i hope you can help me.. My lap ran out of battery and turned off, now the wireless card is off (iwconfig says so). The network mannager has no option for turning it on. How do I turn it on?
[00:10] <fabio> my virtualbox dont detect my dvd rom what i need to do?
[00:10] <Eagleray> backgen: then I have to concur with Jack_Sparrow on this, I see why he was being so cautious
[00:10] <backgen> Phusion: hey phusion....its very confusing...and so far i dont think i have any OS that works on my system...or my hard disk is fried...which would really piss me off
[00:10] <Eagleray> backgen: a partition table that can't be read is not a good thing
[00:11] <Phusion> backgen: yeah, it sounded like you had some serious data corruption issues
[00:11] <Slart> backgen: tried testdisk?
[00:11] <Eagleray> backgen: do you have any means to back up the data on your windows partition before we go any further?
[00:11] <soundray> ikari: does it have a switch or a button for turning wifi on/off?
[00:11] <wols_> backgen: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr count=1 bs=512
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> backgen: usb stick.. anything...
[00:11] <wols_> backgen: does this give errors?
[00:11] <backgen> Eagleray: all the important stuff has been backed up (at least i think) the only thing thats left on there is 4 seasons of Seinfeld...sniff snuff
[00:12] <ikari> soundray: it has a pushable LED, but it does not seem to work. It's an Acer TM laptop
[00:12] <Eagleray> backgen: do what wols_ said, if this gives errors then your disk is physically failing
[00:12] <Eagleray> backgen: if it succeeds, then you probably just have a corrupt MBR
[00:12] <backgen> wols: should i paste bin the response? it doesnt look like any errors though
[00:12] <wols_> backgen: no. if there is no text, then there are no errors
[00:12] <Eagleray> backgen: please, just in case
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> backgen: FYI.. you would never get this kind of support from Dell, Windows or any other distro
[00:12] <soundray> ikari: reboot the laptop and press the button while the grub menu displays. Then it should turn on.
[00:13] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: I respectfully disagree :)
[00:13] <Eagleray> backgen: as wols_ said, you don't _need_ to, but I'm in super-cautious mode now
[00:13] <aladdinsane> I cant write to my usb drive, i get "Read-only file system" although my fstab looks like this: /dev/sdd1 /media/K750        vfat     user,rw,umask=000  0      0
[00:13] <aladdinsane> sudo chmod -R 777 /media/K750/ gives me: "Read-only file system"
[00:13] <aladdinsane> anybody got an idea?
[00:13] <backgen> Jack_Sparrow: yeah i must say i'm reallly impressed with Ubuntu support...especially since this is free
[00:13] <wols_> dell, windows, sure. there are probably several channels on this network alone who would give as much support
[00:13] <backgen> wols: ok well i did get a message
[00:13] <wols_> backgen: message being?
[00:13] <backgen> 1+0 records in
[00:13] <backgen> 1+0 records out
[00:13] <backgen> 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.000466706 seconds, 1.1 MB/s
[00:13] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: I'd disagree also, subject to payment :-P
[00:13] <wols_> ok. that's fine
[00:14] <backgen> hourray!!!
[00:14] <Eagleray> backgen: looks just fine
[00:14] <wols_> Eagleray: "free" support was implied of course
[00:14] <ikari> soundray: mmh, i'll try that... see you in a couple of minutes (rebooting now)
[00:14] <backgen> hahaha btw...are you guys getting paid for this or do you just do this in your spare time?
[00:14] <wols_> Eagleray:, Jack_Sparrow  can you bring me up to speed what his problem is?
[00:14] <wols_> that log is soooo long :(
[00:14] <Eagleray> backgen: I'm getting paid to sit on my ass at work and do nothing waiting for users to have problems
[00:15] <TBotNik_u> soundray: I've been documenting in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637969.  This is problem # 2.  The "modeline" from the modeline gen script shown on the thread at: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl and the associated help from NeddySeagoon at: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3276263.html#3276263 are the things I've been following to get it all done.  That plus Neddy's latest email.
[00:15] <Eagleray> backgen: so I might as well help you
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> backgen: I get paid to answer Windows questions... which is why I sometimes need to disappear
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Eagleray: you too...   too funny
[00:15] <backgen> Eagleray: Jack_Sparrow: lol
[00:15] <Eagleray> wols_: he started by trying to install ubuntu onto a new fat32 partition at the end of his drive
[00:15] <soundray> TBotNik_u: I asked a fairly simple question. Do you think you could provide the answer to that? I'll repeat...
[00:15] <b1n0ry> i'm having some difficulty installing ubuntu on my laptop. can i have some assistance please?
[00:15] <soundray> TBotNik_u: what is the *native* resolution of your panel?
[00:16] <wols_> fdisk/cfdisk and change the partition type. done
[00:16] <Slart> b1n0ry: what's the problem?
[00:16] <wols_> let ubuntu mkfs it to a proper fs and be done
[00:16] <soundray> b1n0ry: no
[00:16]  * nickrud wonders just how many people are here like Eagleray Jack_Sparrow and me :)
[00:16] <soundray> b1n0ry: that is, if you say what the issue is, we might have a chance.
[00:16] <Eagleray> wols_: phonecall, brb
[00:16] <andreas__> hey
[00:16] <jack12> hey guys .
[00:16] <wols_> alternativels delete the aprtition with cfdisk or such and same result with letting ubuntu do the partitioning
[00:16] <TBotNik_u> soundray: I said I do not understand "what is the *native* resolution of your panel?"!! Do you mean monitor instead of panel?
[00:16] <Slart> nickrud: what do you mean, like you?
[00:16] <backgen> wols: whoa that sounds radical...would it work though? or might the disk get fried?
[00:16] <b1n0ry> Slart/soundray: i downloaded the live cd, and it's too slow to work with. so i got the alternate cd.
[00:16] <andreas__> I am having trouble with Apollon anybody to help?
[00:17] <jack12> quick question, y does ubuntu 7.10 not have a iftab file?
[00:17] <jack12> does anybody know about this?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I do dental.. you do medical right
[00:17] <wols_> backgen: changing a partition type doesn't do anything bad, escept that window iwll not recognize it anymore which is no big loss
[00:17] <Slart> b1n0ry: the live cd isn't what I'd work with.. I'd just use it to install.. but ok..
[00:17] <backgen> wols_: whats cfdisk?
[00:17] <b1n0ry> Slart/soundray: when i boot, i select "install linux text mode", it says "loading linux kernel" and i get a progress bar
[00:17] <soundray> TBotNik_u: the panel is the part of your monitor that does the actual displaying.
[00:17] <wols_> backgen: a program. dunno if the live cd has it
[00:17] <b1n0ry> Slart: that's what i mean... i'm installing, but it's too slow to install with
[00:17] <wols_> backgen: text based partition tool
[00:17] <backgen> wols_: well i have Gparted
[00:17] <Stylee> is there a way to have X on 16bpp and run terminal emulator?
[00:18] <b1n0ry> Slart/soundray: the progress bar completes, screen switches to text mode, like it's supposed to
[00:18] <backgen> wols_: could i use that?
[00:18] <Slart> b1n0ry: to slow? the tigers eat you before you're finished? you get errors?.. how can it be to slow?
[00:18] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, informational line
[00:18] <wols_> backgen: I didn't say anything about gparted. open a terminal, sudo cfdisk /dev/sda. if that doesn't work, sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[00:18] <TBotNik_u> soundray: I'm us, we call that monitor. Panel is a part of the active desktop Gnome software so you had me confused.
[00:18] <b1n0ry> i'm not concerned about the slow... i'm on the alternate CD now, not the live CD
[00:18] <nickrud> Slart, idling here cuz there's not much to do at work at the moment
[00:18] <Slart> nickrud: oh.. count me in then
[00:18] <bazhang> b1n0ry: how much ram?
[00:18] <jack12> quick question, y does ubuntu 7.10 not have a iftab file?
[00:18] <wols_> Stylee: why would a xterm depend on colordepth?
[00:18] <b1n0ry> bazhang: 1.5 gb
[00:18] <Slart> !y
[00:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about y - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:18] <Slart> !u
[00:18] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[00:19] <b1n0ry> anyway... screen switches to text mode, then i get a flash like it was trying to switch screen modes again. screen goes black and the cd-rom spins down.
[00:19] <b1n0ry> nothing happens
[00:19] <backgen> wols_: holy cow...ok the Terminal screen just turned dark grey...and i think this is the partition thing you were talking about
[00:19] <backgen> wols_: so what now?
[00:19] <TBotNik_u> soundray: The modeline show the default res of the monitor which is 1152x864@73.
[00:19] <Stylee> wols_: this is what I am wondering to, but it doesn't load when I set to 16 in xorg.conf
[00:19] <wols_> backgen: which one?
[00:19] <Slart> jack12: I'm guessing the iftab contains info on your network cards? that's in /etc/network or something
[00:19] <wols_> backgen: and the partition thing should be fairly self explanatory
[00:19] <soundray> TBotNik_u: don't teach me English please. The panel in an LCD monitor is the equivalent of a tube in a CRT monitor
[00:19] <backgen> wols_: cfdisk
[00:19] <markaa> I am trying to restart samba from the terminal and did the following command: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart --------- however I get this error: sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[00:19] <markaa> This is the first time this has happened to me.... this command has always worked.... anyone?
[00:19] <Eagleray> wols_: back, sorry about that - anyway, the reason we're concerned is that fdisk won't load his partition table
[00:20] <jack12> Slart: i will check /etc/network
[00:20] <wols_> Eagleray: I doubt that if dd reads it
[00:20] <Eagleray> Jack_Sparrow: gaa..... users
[00:20] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Not teaching, just telling what we call things here.
[00:20] <wols_> backgen: can you pastebin the xterm content?
[00:20] <soundray> TBotNik_u: well, you're telling me wrong.
[00:20] <backgen> Eagleray: i just loaded cfdisk onto Terminal
[00:20] <Eagleray> wols_: dd is reading the raw MBR, that's not to say that there is something meaningful there....
[00:20] <b1n0ry> so, that's what's going on. to summarize: live cd is too slow, got the alternate. alternate starts to load but when it switches to text mode, gives me a couple lines like a standard linux kernel load on a laptop, screen goes black, then it just sits there.
[00:21] <backgen> wols_: sure do you have a link to paste bin?
[00:21] <wols_> Eagleray: since fdisk -l could deal with the mbr there should...
[00:21] <wols_> !paste | backgen
[00:21] <ubotu> backgen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:21] <Eagleray> wols_: I agree with your solution, it's what I was planning on trying in the first place, until fdisk started spitting out errors
[00:21] <Slart> jack12: there's also some stuff in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:21] <byah> woah... man I really am a noob.  I just came from windows sort of lol.
[00:21] <Slart> jack12: depends on what you're looking for
[00:21] <wols_> Eagleray: this is why I want cfdisk output right now
[00:21] <jals> is there a way to make all trash go to the same place? my second hdd makes its own .Trash directory which i keep forgetting do empty
[00:21] <Eagleray> wols_: :-)
[00:21] <jack12> nope, /etc/networks has nothin like iftab??
[00:21] <Slart> jals: then you'd have to copy stuff every time it's deleted.. takes time
[00:22] <wols_> Eagleray: did you tell him to use sudo with fdisk?
[00:22] <ikari> soundray: it didn't work, isn't there any console command for turning it on?
[00:22] <soundray> TBotNik_u: a modeline is a software setting. To answer my question, it's no use to refer to a modeline. You need to find out what the number of physical pixels in your monitor is.
[00:22] <TBotNik_u> soundray: As you can tell from the PBs and other (file PB at: http://pastebin.ca/824472) the monitor is an AMW MR19C-AB LCD monitor.
[00:22] <backgen> wols_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48951/
[00:22] <Eagleray> wols_: yep, and it failed
[00:22] <cr4> does any body here Know the way to mount shared folders NFS in fstab ?
[00:22] <wols_> jack12: what do you want it for?
[00:22] <soundray> ikari: with Acer I'm not sure. Look into acerhk
[00:22] <Vlet> How can one, from ssh, connect to (control?) an actually tty on a system?
[00:22] <b1n0ry> i like ubuntu because (at least what i've seen of the live cd) it recognizes my wifi.. unlike every other distro i've tried. as of now, i'm stuck on windows :(
[00:22] <zaxius> if i type glxinfo | grep render, and it says direct rendering: No, does that mean 3d acceleration is not enabled?
[00:22] <zaxius> cuz i can run compiz fine.
[00:22] <jack12> wols: i want to rename some of my interfaces
[00:22] <soundray> TBotNik_u: that doesn't tell me what its resolution is.
[00:22] <wols_> backgen: that free space is kinda funny and slightly worrying
[00:22] <jack12> *network interfaces
[00:22] <Eagleray> cr4: server:/path/to/folder /local/mount/point nfs defaults 0 0
[00:22] <markaa> this is really strange... I had just installed Gutsy on this machine 2 days ago and I thought for sure Samba Server was installed by default..... but it was not..... and so I have to install it .... why do you think this would happen?
[00:22] <fabio> my virtualbox dont detect my dvd rom what i need to do?
[00:22] <Slart> jack12: I think you want the udev one .. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:22] <wols_> jack12: there is no need for iftab. use udev
[00:23] <cr4> Eagleray, just defaults 0 0 ?
[00:23] <soundray> ikari: 'apt-cache search acerhk'
[00:23] <wols_> jack12: the file Slart mentions
[00:23] <backgen> wols_: what!! i hadn't noticed that...that was my dell utility before
[00:23] <Eagleray> cr4: unless you need something kinky, yes
[00:23] <TBotNik_u> soundray: We did that using the modeline generator I referred you to.  If you were reading the notes from Neddy, you see that the web site and other info we can gather online about this device does not tell us any other info we need.
[00:23] <byah> I am sorry people, but I am totally clueless right now.  Is there an IRC I can lurk and learn from for awhile?
[00:23] <jack12> wols: what about ppl that install stuff like ndiswrapper in ubuntu, how do they go about editing "iftab'
[00:23] <LjL> wols_, mind joining -ops a second?
[00:23] <backgen> wols_: ok wait i'll paste bin the correction
[00:23] <stacey> on a toshiba laptop i only get sound though my headphones
[00:23] <cr4> Eagleray, ok thanks man
[00:23] <b1n0ry> Slart/soundray: any suggestions?
[00:23] <wols_> jack12: I told you. unecessary
[00:24] <jack12> wols_: thanks dude
[00:24] <Slart> Vlet: I tried doing that for years for my debian server.. noone could give me a good answer.. tell me if you find something
[00:24] <soundray> ikari: this may enable the special acer keys on your machine.
[00:24] <backgen> wols_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48952/
[00:24] <backgen> there we go
[00:24] <Eagleray> wols_: Jack_Sparrow: backgen: will you guys be ok if I head off for my lunchbreak, or do you want me to hang around for a while? Will be back in 35 mins or so otherwise
[00:24] <Phusion> soundray: what will enable acer buttons?
[00:24] <Slart> b1n0ry: huh? could you repeat the question?
[00:24] <wols_> backgen: did you restart cfdisk and this is the result?
[00:24] <ikonia> Eagleray: will you guys be "ok"?
[00:24] <fabio> my virtualbox dont detect my dvd rom what i need to do?
[00:24] <backgen> wols_: i have no idea how that free space got there...but i just typed in sudo cfdisk /dev/sda again into Terminal and got that
[00:25] <backgen> wols_: yes
[00:25] <ikari> soundray: other hotkeys seem to be working fine..
[00:25] <cocox> do you know how to change the languaje into your bash shell???
[00:25] <b1n0ry> Slart: live cd is too slow, got the alternate. alternate starts to load but when it switches to text mode, gives me a couple lines like a standard linux kernel load on a laptop, screen goes black, then it just sits there.
[00:25] <Slart> b1n0ry: ah.. it goes black before or after the install if finished?
[00:25] <RB2> Hi Everyone. I added a second monitor. Should X automatically detect that or do I have to run through the X configuration again?
[00:25] <soundray> Phusion: there is a package for it. I think it's called acerhk or has that in the name.
[00:25] <Slart> before then... right
[00:25] <Phusion> soundray: hrmm, interesting
[00:25] <TBotNik_u> soundray: If you google this monitor or go to the mfg site of pge (china) you find nothing.
[00:26] <soundray> ikari: check your BIOS setup as well to ensure it's not disabled in there.
[00:26] <b1n0ry> Slart: it boots, gives me the boot menu, it says "install text mode", it says "loading kernel", switches to text screen mode, screen goes black
[00:26] <b1n0ry> Slart: never starts the install, never shows signs that it actually loaded the kernel
[00:26] <Eagleray> wols_: Jack_Sparrow: backgen: back in half an hour, will check backscroll for anything addressed to me when I get back
[00:26] <soundray> TBotNik_u: do you have another operating system on this machine?
[00:26] <b1n0ry> Slart: and the cd-rom spins down
[00:26] <backgen> Eagleray: well i guess its up to you, but i wouldn't want to deprive you of your lunch! Thanks for all your help
[00:26] <wols_> backgen: it doesn't recognize recovery partitions very well probably
[00:26] <ikari> soundray: ok...
[00:27] <TBotNik_u> soundray: no just ubuntu
[00:27] <wols_> but that it once recognizes it and sometimes not is worrying
[00:27] <backgen> wols_: ok so what should i do next?
[00:27] <Slart> b1n0ry: hmm.. I'm not really familiar with the alternate install.. it stays in text mode? or it goes into some vesa mode??...no error messages at all?
[00:27] <wols_> backgen: where is that mbr file I told you about?
[00:27] <jack12> does anybody know of any good programs for laptop touchpad sensitivity controls??
[00:27] <backgen> wols_: which mbr file?
[00:27] <wols_> can you copy it to some external medium like a usb stick?
[00:27] <b1n0ry> Slart: the alternate install is supposed to be text-based install. it is supposed to be in text mode. though the screen flashes like it goes into a weird mode or something.
[00:27] <wols_> the one you created with dd earlier. the one that had 512bytes written
[00:28] <Slart> b1n0ry: perhaps it's some hardware detection routine..  I really have no idea..
[00:28] <b1n0ry> Slart: the problem with the live CD is... i click the install icon, wait 45 minutes, answer the first question, wait 45 minutes, answer the second question, wait 30 minutes... give up
[00:28] <TBotNik_u> soundray: I have another machine on KVM to this monitor that is Gentoo and it is working, but Neddy helped me with that one.  Sorry the same setting in the xorg.conf there do not fix any thing here.
[00:28] <soundray> TBotNik_u: can you switch to a text console, log in and run 'sudo ddcprobe'
[00:28] <Slart> b1n0ry: well.. at least it's working =)
[00:28] <backgen> wols_: whoa...i don't recall ever doing that actually...
[00:28] <soundray> TBotNik_u: you may have to install that tool
[00:29] <b1n0ry> Slart: yeah, but i don't have 10 hours to install an OS ;)
[00:29] <slugone> crud i burned the ubuntu iso to a blank cd and it failed the integrity test.....will it be hard to configure a 1 gig usb stick to boot and install ubuntu
[00:29] <soundray> b1n0ry: how much RAM do you have?
[00:29] <Slart> b1n0ry: hehe.. nah.. 10 hours is a bit much.. I agree.. is there an option to "check install disc" or something?
[00:29] <b1n0ry> soundray: 1.5 GB
[00:29] <Slart> 1.5 GB... the live CD shouldn't be that slow..
[00:30] <bim> network manager: I dialed a pptp connection, it connected successfully, but the network manager doesn't know. So it won't let me connect a vpn.
[00:30] <TBotNik> soundray: That command totally locked the box, will have to hard reboot.
[00:30] <Slart> I installed on a computer with 500 MB.. worked great
[00:30] <bim> and I don't know how to dial a vpn from command line.
[00:30] <soundray> b1n0ry: you haven't disabled anything vital in the BIOS setup, like 2nd level caching?
[00:30] <b1n0ry> Slart/sounray: no kidding. 1.5 GB RAM and a 3.2 GB proc... decent for a laptop
[00:30] <b1n0ry> 3.2 MHz
[00:30] <b1n0ry> dang, not thinking
[00:30] <cocox> does anybody knows how to change the languaje into your bash shell???
[00:30] <b1n0ry> GHz
[00:30] <b1n0ry> wtf
[00:30] <slugone> gigahertz
[00:31] <b1n0ry> let me try that again...
[00:31] <wols_> backgen: I gave you a dd command. you ran it
[00:31] <slugone> would be nice
[00:31] <Slart> b1n0ry: I've installed ubuntu on a via uATX board.. those things run like 700 MHz.. 500MB.. and that was snappy as always
[00:31] <b1n0ry> Slart/soundray: no kidding. 1.5 GB RAM and a 3.2 GHz proc... decent for a laptop
[00:31] <TBotNik> soundray: Rebooting now.  Will bounce in from U box when it's up
[00:31] <wols_> backgen: it created a file named "mbr". you should backup this file and maybe show it to us if at all possible
[00:31] <b1n0ry> ...sheesh, got that out
[00:31] <Slart> b1n0ry: either you've got some weird hardware.. or something else is wrong
[00:31] <wols_> it's your partition table among other things. so we'd look at it if all 3 partitions show up
[00:31] <ubuntu> t.adunanza.net
[00:31] <soundray> TBotNik: try booting in recovery mode. Maybe ddcprobe collided with X running.
[00:32] <slugone> okay i really need help......i ubuntu cd failed its integrity test.......i gotta put it on a 1gig mem stick will it be hard to boot from the usb drive?
[00:32] <backgen> wols_: ah alright...you mean this one? sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr count=1 bs=512
[00:32] <Slart> b1n0ry: and I'm sorry to say.. I won't be able to help you fix it.. wife is pulling me to bed as we speak
[00:32] <soundray> wols_: you read binary MBRs?
[00:32] <Slart> b1n0ry: but you've got the local guru's here.. they'll help you
[00:32] <b1n0ry> Slart: bah, what is it about women in beds that is so distracting
[00:32] <backgen> wols_: ok...but where is the file it created though?
[00:32] <wols_> soundray: hex dumps. they're easy
[00:32] <b1n0ry> Slart: nite, man :)
[00:33] <TBotNik_u> soundray: OK back.  Sorry, since the cmd locked the box can not share any output with you.
[00:33] <Slart> b1n0ry: hehe.. .good night
[00:33]  * soundray raises his hat to wols_
[00:33] <wols_> 16 bytes pre entry, 4 entries. ends with 55 AA. it's the last 66 bytes of your MBR
[00:33] <soundray> TBotNik: try booting in recovery mode. Maybe ddcprobe collided with X running.
[00:33] <b1n0ry> i think i'm just gonna have to give in and keep windows
[00:33] <bazhang> b1n0ry: no!
[00:33] <backgen> wols_: "16 bytes pre entry, 4 entries. ends with 55 AA. it's the last 66 bytes of your MBR" was that directed at me?
[00:33] <TBotNik_u> soundray: K, brb!  Rebooting in safe mode.
[00:34] <b1n0ry> bazhang: ubuntu won't install, and no other disto that i've tried handles my wifi
[00:34] <wols_> backgen: at soundray
[00:34] <codo> hi guy
[00:34] <codo> s
[00:34] <bazhang> what wifi b1n0ry
[00:34] <backgen> wols_: oh ok...so that file that the dd command created...where can i find it to back it up?
[00:34] <codo> I seem to be having problems
[00:34] <wols_> backgen: you go and make that file available if you can. and most imprtantly, back it up on external media
[00:34] <codo> with the wireless in ubuntu
[00:34] <fistikuffs> I have a dumb question, can anyone tell me how to save the "always on top" and "always on visible worktop" settings so i don't have to keep doing it every time i start amarok?
[00:34] <codo> should i need ndiswrapper ?
[00:34] <b1n0ry> bazhang: Altheros 5005gs
[00:35] <soundray> wols_: cool, thanks!
[00:35] <b1n0ry> bazhang: and i'm not mucking around with hacked up windows drivers and ndiswrapper or some garbage like that
[00:35] <backgen> wols_: i have an external hard drive will that work?
[00:35] <wols_> backgen: yes
[00:35] <codo> ?
[00:35] <backgen> wols_: ok...so how can i find the file?
[00:35] <bazhang> b1n0ry: what other distros have you tried with that?
[00:35] <papagnome> yo
[00:35] <wols_> codo: depends on your wlan chip
[00:35] <codo> anyone who can help me with the ubuntu ndiswrapper stuffs for compaq presario ?
[00:35] <b1n0ry> bazhang: openSUSE and Fedora
[00:35] <papagnome> my duel monitors stoped working
[00:35] <ianm_> can you set a fullscreen application (opengl) to run in xorg background behind GNOME?
[00:35] <codo> i have this broadcom chip wols_
[00:35] <papagnome> i tried everything
[00:35] <codo> so what can I do, googling has confused me :(
[00:35] <wols_> backgen: it's in the current directory whne you were running the dd command
[00:36] <papagnome> even reinstalled ubuntu
[00:36] <wols_> you cab run it again:  sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr count=1 bs=512
[00:36] <papagnome> i have an nvida card with 2 outputs
[00:36] <codo> wols_: so ill need ndiswrappe ?
[00:36] <backgen> wols_: you mean Terminal?
[00:36] <b1n0ry> bazhang: pretty much the mainstream releases
[00:36] <soundray> !dualhead > papagnome, please read the private message from ubotu
[00:36] <papagnome> and only 1 monitor will work proprer ly
[00:36] <codo> anyway i can get my wireless up running ?
[00:36] <bazhang> b1n0ry: well you can get it working, likely, with the madwifi--but if you are set on windows, then..
[00:36] <wols_> backgen: yes
[00:37] <backgen> wols_: oh ok...so you mean this: 1+0 records in
[00:37] <backgen> 1+0 records out
[00:37] <backgen> 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.000497648 seconds, 1.0 MB/s
[00:37] <wols_> codo: no. bcm43xx should work. not so long ago ndiswrapper was needed however
[00:37] <papagnome> sound ray already read that
[00:37] <b1n0ry> bazhang: i'm not set on it, i just don't want to have to mod crap up, that's all. that's why i was kinda set on ubuntu. what i did see of the live cd at least got me online with my wireless without doing anything but setting my encryption key.
[00:37] <backgen> wols_: but how do i save that?
[00:37] <wols_> already saved. in a file named mbr in your current dir
[00:37] <backgen> wols_: and transfer it to my external hard drive?
[00:37] <wols_> ls -l mbr
[00:38] <cocox> does anybody knows how to change the languaje into your bash shell???
[00:38] <papagnome> when i said i tried everything i really ment it
[00:38] <wols_> mount external harddisk, use cp to copy it over
[00:38] <wols_> cocox: X or console?
[00:38] <backgen> wols_: ahhh!! i'm really sorry wols, but i have no clue what your talking about...where's my current directory?
[00:38] <bazhang> b1n0ry: wait--the wireless worked in livecd mode, then it failed once you installed? sounds like an easy fix
[00:38] <aladdinsane> how can i make xubuntu write to my usb drive immidiately, right now it writes to the drive when i unmount it, i get a message with something like "data has to be written to the drive before you unmount it"
[00:39] <bazhang> aladdinsane: you have to safely unmount it
[00:39] <wols_> backgen: the directory you are in _right_ now. run "pwd" and it's shown. run "ls -l mbr" and you see a 512 bytes file
[00:39] <soundray> aladdinsane: you can mount it with the 'sync' option
[00:39] <b1n0ry> bazhang: no! i haven't been able to install ubuntu at all.
[00:39] <TBotNik> soundray: Where you want the synopsis?
[00:39] <codo> wols_: any guides ?
[00:39] <OldSpice> I'm making a partition so my windows and linux can both share the space. Am I supposed to make this partition Primary or Logical?
[00:39] <wols_> aladdinsane: mount it synced. should be a mount option IIRC. or run sudo sync
[00:39] <skelter> so, my bios says one processor speed, and /proc/cpuinfo gives another. is this a normal thing? 7.10, and one of these new quad core 3ghz procs from intel
[00:39] <codo> so that i can go step step installtion ?
[00:40] <codo> or rather configuration ?
[00:40] <wols_> !broadcom codo
[00:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcom codo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:40] <soundray> TBotNik: paste.ubuntu-nl.org or anywhere
[00:40] <backgen> wols_: hourray!!!!! i got it
[00:40] <wols_> !broadcom | codo
[00:40] <ubotu> codo: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:40] <skelter> bios says 3ghz, /proc/cpuinfo says 2ghz
[00:40] <bazhang> b1n0ry: you can use the livecd but not install it?
[00:40] <b1n0ry> bazhang: i could... sorta... get the live cd to run. i just couldn't install. that's how i figured the wifi would work.
[00:40] <aladdinsane> soundray: yes but i dont want to reload fstab everytime i plug it in
[00:40] <MasterShrek> skelter: it scales your cpu frequency, it will change when you need more power
[00:40] <b1n0ry> bazhang: who knows, i gave up trying because of how long it was taking.
[00:40] <wols_> skelter: yes if you use something like cpufreqd
[00:40] <b1n0ry> bazhang: it took me about 2 hours to get to question #2
[00:40] <bazhang> b1n0ry: sorry, what do you mean by sorta?
[00:40] <soundray> aladdinsane: "reload fstab"? Once you set sync in fstab, the option will be used every time
[00:41] <backgen> wols_: ok i've copied the file onto my external hard drive...what next?
[00:41] <b1n0ry> bazhang: i clicked the "install" icon on the live cd gnome desktop. it took 30 minutes to completely draw the first installation question window.
[00:41] <skelter> oh i see
[00:41] <TBotNik> soundray: Gives >> 1280x1024@75 (VESA) <<, >> 1280x1024@70 <<, >> 30-80, 55-75 <<, >> name=A911B <<
[00:41] <aladdinsane> wols_ at: you mean run sync manually everytime i plug it in?
[00:41] <wols_> backgen: can you upload the file somewhere? can you do dcc?
[00:41] <skelter> will /proc/cpuinfo get updated when i need more power?
[00:41] <skelter> in real time?
[00:41] <b1n0ry> bazhang: then it took 45 more minutes to say i spoke english (or whatever the first question was) and get to the next question
[00:41] <MasterShrek> skelter: yes
[00:41] <wols_> I want to look at it before I call it a proper backup of the MBR
[00:41] <skelter> cool, thanks :)
[00:41] <bazhang> b1n0ry: and how was it when you were using the livecd? was it really sluggish then?
[00:41] <papagnome> is there another linux distro i should look at to use my multiple monitor heads ?
[00:41] <OldSpice> jack_sparrow: when making the partition for both windows and ubuntu to access, should i make this primary or logical?
[00:41] <wols_> skelter: yes
[00:42] <b1n0ry> bazhang: that -was- using the live cd
[00:42] <wols_> OldSpice: doesn't matter. both will work
[00:42] <backgen> wols_: umm...well where would you like me to upload it? and whats dcc?
[00:42] <loucas> hi
[00:42] <b1n0ry> bazhang: took about 30 seconds or so for a menu to appear when i clicked on it, that kind of thing
[00:42] <OldSpice> wols_: what's the difference between primary and logical?
[00:42] <backgen> wols_: i can e-mail it to you if you like
[00:42] <wols_> backgen: dcc is a way to send files over IRC
[00:42] <bazhang> b1n0ry: no, you are talking about the install sequence--I mean the bit about surfing the web in livecd mode, etc
[00:42] <backgen> wols_: oh...well i don't think i can dcc
[00:42] <b1n0ry> bazhang: sluggish wasn't really the word i'd choose... more like... maybe it was just going so fast that it broke einsteins theory of relativity and looked like it was going backwards?
[00:42] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Did that help you?
[00:42] <aladdinsane> soundray: hmm ok, maybe i was wrong, but i thought so cause i tried it and it didnt work, it still wasnt writing to it immidiately
[00:43] <loucas> i am wondering if someone is willing to help me several threads at ubuntuforums and nobody gives me an asnswer
[00:43] <wols_> backgen: see PM
[00:43] <wols_> !ask | loucas
[00:43] <ubotu> loucas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:43] <b1n0ry> bazhang: yeah, that too. it was very slow. took a long time to boot the live cd.
[00:43] <bazhang> b1n0ry: sorry I don't really understand that--was it problematic in livecd mode? not install mode sequence
[00:43] <b1n0ry> bazhang: probably 20 minutes to get to the gnome desktop
[00:43] <loucas> i have an intel965 card and i dont have any sound and i cannot enable the detskop effects
[00:44] <loucas> any link to solve this problem?
[00:44] <soundray> TBotNik: excellent. Use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to make changes to your xorg.conf. Accept all the defaults, except in the monitor section. There you select "Advanced", set 1280x1024 as the resolution, 30-80 for your hsync and 55-75 for your vrefresh range.
[00:44] <bazhang> b1n0ry: well I am asking about something else entirely; not the boot, nor the install--but the actual use in livecd mode--I am trying to help out here so could you answer that question
[00:44] <asymptonic> Anyone else not able to boot after today's kernel upgrade?  Gutsy/AMD64/Root on LVM
[00:44] <backgen> wols_: ok it's been sent
[00:44] <slugone> anyone know a site where they teach you how to put ubuntu onto a usb thumb stick to install ubuntu....my last blank cd failed
[00:44] <asymptonic> I've tried all I know how
[00:44] <asymptonic> including downgrading
[00:44] <b1n0ry> bazhang: with the live cd, from the time i turned on the computer until i got to the desktop was about 20 minutes. then, it took about 5-10 minutes to click the wifi settings and put in my key. then it took about 10 minutes to open firefox.
[00:45] <MasterShrek> asymptonic: tried booting an older kernel?
[00:45] <ianm_> b1n0ry: could your cd drive be dying?
[00:45] <b1n0ry> bazhang: then it would take about 30 secs to 1 min to start loading a website
[00:45] <soundray> !install > slugone, this page lists various options for installing to USB (private message)
[00:45] <b1n0ry> ianm_: don't think so, in my windows environment everything works great
[00:45] <b1n0ry> burning, reading, etc.
[00:45] <TBotNik_u> soundray: No way.  Everytime I use the dpkg-reconfig I start over at ground zero and I'm tired of that peice of #$%^&*(&^$%#@$%%^&&^ Crap.
[00:45] <asymptonic> MasterShrek: Lilo didn't have one.  I tried apt-get installing an old one (from rescue CD), but it doesn't work either
[00:46] <wols_> backgen: ok, all 3 partition are there
[00:46] <asymptonic> I get what looks like loading an initrd with no basic files in it
[00:46] <codo> wols_: there is no documentation on step step
[00:46] <asymptonic> depmod: not found, etc
[00:46] <soundray> TBotNik_u: don't let your frustration spoil your good manners.
[00:46] <MasterShrek> asymptonic: what sorts of problems are you having? and why are you using lilo and not grub?
[00:46] <wols_> backgen: no in cfdisk delete the sda3 partition. recreate it with type Linux
[00:46] <codo> i did that bcm driver installation
[00:46] <slugone> !install
[00:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:46] <codo> it throws error saying 404 not found
[00:46] <bazhang> b1n0ry: sounds like a hardware issue, or a bad cd media/bad burn or a seriously under-powered computer. you may want to try a lighter distro like xubuntu, burn a new cd,  or check out the hardware probs with your computer
[00:46] <wols_> backgen: use cursor up/down to select partition 3
[00:46] <soundray> TBotNik_u: I don't want to read verbal faeces in exchange for the help I give you.
[00:46] <wols_> then use cursor left,right to move to delete and press enter
[00:47] <asymptonic> The installer installed LILO, not me.
[00:47] <asymptonic> Probably because I have root on LVM w/ XFS
[00:47] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Sorry man, been working on this for over 3 weeks and the stinking autoconfig generator is the primary problem.  It can not handle this monitor.  That is why I am maually going through this!!!!!
[00:47] <loucas> any ideas\
[00:47] <wols_> after that, create a new one with "New"
[00:47] <aladdinsane> how on earth do i get the uuid of my usb drive?
[00:47] <asymptonic> I tried installing grub, but from chroot, it said /dev/sda had no corresponding BIOS drive
[00:47] <b1n0ry> bazhang: definately not underpowered. i guess there could be some other incompatible hardware. i have problems with both the live cd and the alternate cd (different issues, but still issues) both of which pass the integrity check.
[00:47] <TBotNik_u> soundray: Not dissing you, just that #$% autoconfig package.
[00:48] <soundray> TBotNik_u: the dpkg-reconfigure procedure isn't as bad if you know that you can accept the presets for most settings. Part of your problem is that you're mucking around with modelines and stuff.
[00:48] <bazhang> b1n0ry: what laptop, what chipset?
[00:48] <wols_> backgen: noapic and acpi=off boot options
[00:48] <wols_> oops
[00:48] <wols_> backgen: was not for you
[00:48] <MasterShrek> asymptonic: what sort of errors are you getting?
[00:48] <wols_> b1n0ry: : noapic and acpi=off boot options
[00:48] <b1n0ry> bazhang: it's a toshiba laptop, intel processor
[00:48] <bazhang> b1n0ry: listen to wols
[00:48] <wols_> asymptonic: you need to bind mount your proc to inside the chroot
[00:48] <backgen> wols_: ok so you want me to change the third partition to linux?
[00:48] <soundray> TBotNik_u: now that you've definitely found out your monitor's capabilities through ddcprobe, the autoconfig will solve the rest for you.
[00:48] <asymptonic> Let me grab the laptop and type some.  Things like "depmod: not found", "uspalash-write"
[00:48] <wols_> backgen: yes
[00:48] <Xbehave> my laptop sound only works with extenal speakers, any ideas how i go about fixing this?
[00:49] <wols_> backgen: delete partition 3 and recreate it
[00:49] <b1n0ry> bazhang and wols_: let me give that a shot
[00:49] <Xbehave> so far all i 'think i' know is that my sound card is > ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio
[00:49] <Sajes> Anyone know of a decent freeware racing game in the repos? :)
[00:49] <TBotNik_u> soundray: NO NO, we add the modeline afterward, manually so I can actaully see a screen.  The blinking auto config, leaves me with blank and useless screens also, so it doesn't help anything, just makes it worse.
[00:49] <backgen> wols_: ok done, it is now a Linux partition
[00:49] <b1n0ry> i'll give this a shot, thanks
[00:49] <soundray> b1n0ry: there's a factoid listing further boot options you might try -- pm
[00:49] <soundray> !bootoptions > b1n0ry
[00:50] <onats> is there already a fix for the suspend/hibernate in laptops/
[00:50] <b1n0ry> ty
[00:50] <asymptonic> .../sbin/usplash_write: not found
[00:50] <b1n0ry> i saved that info in case i have to come back to the win env.
[00:50] <wols_> backgen: now "write" it
[00:50] <b1n0ry> thanks, guys!
[00:50] <asymptonic> each about a dozen times
[00:50] <MasterShrek> hmm
[00:50] <soundray> TBotNik_u: but you have never done the autoconfig knowing the real capabilities of your monitor.
[00:50] <wols_> backgen: oops. did you make a swap partition?
[00:50] <b1n0ry> in about 30-60 minutes, i'll let you know how it went... didn't go...
[00:50] <asymptonic> first errant linie is /init: /init: 138 depmod: not found
[00:50] <TBotNik_u> soundray: If that were true, then I would be running, but I've run that blinking program over 20 times with the same crap ass results, sorry you got me started, so now on my soap box.
[00:50] <asymptonic> s/linie/line
[00:51] <backgen> wols_: no!!!
[00:51] <Vlet> I can't get any extended tty vga modes to work with my ati rage xl card... anyone know what might help?
[00:51] <wols_> backgen: if not, delete it again and make one :)
[00:51] <bazhang> b1nory well be waiting
[00:51] <rocky> does any on know of a program to make photo shows
[00:51] <backgen> wols_: hmpf...ok how do i do that?
[00:51] <soundray> TBotNik_u: if, based on your input, the autoconfig overestimated your monitor capabilities all the time. No wonder it couldn't sync
[00:51] <wols_> backgen: first you create a extended partition
[00:51] <soundray> TBotNik_u: now if I get one more crap from you, the conversation is over.
[00:52] <MasterShrek> not really sure asymptonic, im guessing it may have something to do with your root drive not being mounted correctly, either by an incorrect lilo entry, or unavaialbe kernel modules, either by a bad or missing initrd or a missing package for kernel modules
[00:52] <backgen> wols_: ok...well how do i do that? when i go into New it just gives me the option between Primary and Logical
[00:52] <wols_> make one primary that takes leaves 1,1GB of free space
[00:53] <wols_> that will be your ext3 linux partition
[00:53] <wols_> then make a 1,1GB logical partition for swap
[00:53] <Eagleray> backgen, wols_: lunch obtained, I'm back
[00:53] <Eagleray> backgen, wols_: things going well?
[00:53] <TBotNik_u> soundray: K, your right cause all these other command bomb and the "config" from the "low res" option screen also locks the box.  K, can run it with minimum impact, cause got all the files backed up, due to hammering on this so many times.
[00:53] <wols_> Eagleray: we saved the MBR to an external hdd and deleted the fat one and now create / and swap
[00:54] <backgen> wols_: should i add the partition at the beginning of the free space or at the end?
[00:54] <aladdinsane> i did a sudo vol_id /dev/sde1 on my usb drive and got: ID_FS_UUID=BABE-BABE is that the drives uuid?? looks strange..
[00:54] <wols_> end
[00:54] <asymptonic> hmm, guess release QA ain't what it used to be
[00:54] <wols_> oops. beginngi is better for / I guess
[00:54] <Eagleray> wols_: wonderful - any idea why fdisk wouldn't talk to the disk?
[00:54] <ConstyXIV> anyone using a better UI font than the default?
[00:54] <wols_> make the ext3 at the beginning
[00:54] <Eagleray> wols_: or did you recreate the aprtition tabel from scratch?
[00:54] <wols_> Eagleray: no. and there is no reason it wouldn't, but I will advocate a smartmontools long test
[00:55] <wols_> Eagleray: no recreation, but I looked at his backup which seems a vlid table
[00:55] <soundray> asymptonic: I don't think release QA is carried out on LVM systems
[00:55] <wols_> reminds me. I'm a dumbass
[00:55] <backgen> wols_: alright so i now have...a primary Linux partition at the beginning of the free space...and 1.1GB of free space...how do i make the swap?
[00:55] <wols_> backgen: you need to make both partitions logical ones. only room for 4 partitions
[00:55] <bazhang> wols_: not so, not in any way
[00:55] <asymptonic> sucks for me then, there goes my laptop
[00:55]  * soundray disagrees wildly with wols_'s self assessment
[00:55] <wols_> bazhang: trust me I know myself better than you do
[00:56] <backgen> wols_: oh shoot...so i should delete the primary one?
[00:56] <wols_> backgen: delete the ext3 one. again. sorry
[00:56] <bazhang> wols_: I've seen you at work here
[00:56] <rocky> Who knows how to create picture shows like the ones from nero photo show.
[00:56] <backgen> wols_: ok so i now have one logical linux partition and 1.1GB of free space...how do i make the logical swap?
[00:56] <bazhang> slideshows? rocky
[00:56] <wols_> backgen: all partitions you create need to be logical ones
[00:57] <rocky> yeah slideshow and burn them ona cd
[00:57] <wols_> by making another logical partition this time of type 82 (linux swap)
[00:57] <bazhang> rocky: to play where
[00:57] <Eagleray> backgen: you need to create one big extended partition, and both / and swap exist as logical partitions within this
[00:57] <backgen> wols_: alright it's all done now
[00:58] <wols_> Eagleray: in cfdisk you create "Logical" partitions with new
[00:58] <jatt> it's safe to kill this trackerd thing (gutsy)?
[00:58] <jatt>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[00:58] <jatt>   5232           39  19 69688  11m 2308 S 10.2  1.1   1:27.00 trackerd
[00:58] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect dvd.
[00:58] <backgen> Eagleray: wols_: ahhha confusing messages from the both of you!
[00:58] <OldSpice> is this a good idea anyone? i'm a new to the whole linux thing. i have a 160gb hd. 90gb being occupied by windows. i'm going to let ubuntu have 21gb including swap. i'm not making a /home, but instead having another ntfs partition where both ubuntu and windows can access it. an alright idea?
[00:58] <fabio> what i need to do???
[00:58] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect dvd.
[00:58] <df00z> Hm, do any automatic deb package creators exist?  Like, theoretically, could a program monitor the make process, and check /proc/pid/fd, see what files it needs, and resolve the packages that provide them
[00:58] <Eagleray> wols_: aaah - interesting. I haven't used cfdisk before, I normally use fdisk
[00:58] <wols_> backgen: write out the partition table, quit cfdisk and start your install
[00:58] <wols_> should work now, should being the keyboard
[00:58] <asymptonic> what about this one: (on grub-install /dev/sda) /dev/mapper/slvm-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[00:58] <wols_> Eagleray: cfdisk is "nicer"
[00:59] <Eagleray> wols_: *installs cfdisk to have a play*
[00:59] <LjL> jatt: isn't there an init script, i.e. can you type « sudo invoke-rc.d trackerd stop » (or tracker stop, or similar - i'm on Kubuntu, can't check)? that would be better than killing
[00:59] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect dvd.
[00:59] <wols_> asymptonic: I told you before. did you bind mount your /proc inside the chroot?
[00:59] <asymptonic> yes
[00:59] <LjL> !repeat | fabio
[00:59] <ubotu> fabio: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:59] <soundray> OldSpice: it's okay, but I suggest you let /home be part of the root partition so your user config ends up in an ext3 system instead of an ntfs
[00:59] <backgen> wols_: ok heres the paste bin of what i have now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48959/
[00:59] <asymptonic> oh, wait
[00:59] <asymptonic> bind mount?
[00:59] <wols_> asymptonic: recreate your device.map file. but right now I dunno how
[01:00] <wols_> but docs should tell you
[01:00] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect dvd. how to fix it?
[01:00] <clever> asymptonic: mount --bind /proc /path/to/chroot/proc
[01:00] <OldSpice> soundray: well just for the user config, do you think i can make a 1gb home for it? although all my documents will be in a ntfs drive?
[01:00] <soundray> OldSpice: btw, you can share ext3 partitions with Windows if you install ext2fsd
[01:00] <asymptonic> let me try that
[01:00] <Eagleray> backgen: that looks fine
[01:00] <bazhang> fabio: check virtual box settings--its in there
[01:00] <wols_> fabio: considering it's a virtualization software you have to configure it somehow. it won't ever access your peripherals directly
[01:00] <aladdinsane> i did a sudo vol_id /dev/sde1 on my usb drive and got: ID_FS_UUID=BABE-BABE is that the drives uuid??
[01:00] <soundray> OldSpice: sure, a 1GB home will do nicely
[01:00] <asymptonic> nah, no good
[01:00] <wols_> soundray: use fs-driver.org
[01:00] <backgen> wols_: ok done...now you want me to go and try to install Ubuntu onto the partition?
[01:01] <wols_> OldSpice: fs-driver.org
[01:01] <fabio> i did the configuration and the passthrug
[01:01] <wols_> backgen: yes. and I wish you best of luck :)
[01:01] <soundray> wols_: is that better?
[01:01] <wols_> soundray: it allows to write
[01:01] <Eagleray> backgen: good luck
[01:01] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect dvd HOW TO CHANGE THE DIRECTORY OF CD?
[01:02] <fabio> IN OPTIOS IS NOT POSSIBLE
[01:02] <backgen> wols_:Eagleray: ok thanks guys....so providing this works....what happens to my NTFS Windows partition?
[01:02] <fabio> *OPTIONS
[01:02] <soundray> wols_: ext2fsd lets you write, and it's open source
[01:02] <Eagleray> backgen: nothing happens to it, it stays
[01:02] <wols_> backgen: nothing. it stays there. you get an etry in your grub to boot windows, that's all
[01:02] <bazhang> fabio: we answered that--check the settings in virtual box or go to #vbox
[01:02] <wols_> backgen: if you insist you can mount it with ntfs-3g
[01:02] <wols_> soundray: wasn't last I checked. good to know
[01:03] <OldSpice> soundray: wols: thanks you guys! well I'm still a windows person and i want to keep the majority of my system still windows. if i do decide to make a change i'll be sure to have more ext3 than nfts :]
[01:03] <billybobo> after an update this morning my usplash stopped working at boot, any way to fix this?
[01:04] <TBotNik> soundray: Well I tried the blinking dpkg-reconfig and sure enough I'm completely blown and the stupid package even overwrote my .failsafe and backup file, so now my monitor give me this lovely "No Signal" message.  Well have to do this another day. no time now.  Will try again tomorrow.
[01:04] <Eagleray> I am having problems with hotplugging USB devices. It works fine on a standard debian kernel, but not on my custom one. I *think* I have everything pertinent enabled, but obviously I am missing something. Any ideas?
[01:04] <backgen> wols_:Eagleray: ok this is confusing
[01:05] <lovedeatm> soundray, do you know if there is a command to "refresh" a proccess and services etc
[01:05] <bobesponja> hi
[01:05] <Eagleray> backgen: your NTFS partition should be left alone completely. Once ubuntu is installed, you should have a GRUB menu entry saying 'Windows'
[01:05] <wols_> Eagleray: #debian :P
[01:05] <bobesponja> anyone managed to make the mac remote work on ubuntu?
[01:05] <Xbehave> my laptop sound only works with extenal speakers, any ideas how i go about fixing this?
[01:05] <soundray> lovedeatm: you mean reload the config files?
[01:06] <billybobo> after an update this morning my usplash stopped working at boot, any way to fix this?
[01:06] <lovedeatm> yeah for the most part
[01:06] <Eagleray> wols_: How depressing.... what if I lied and said I was running feisty?
[01:06] <lovedeatm> yeah for the most part soundray
[01:06] <wols_> Eagleray: then sooner or later we'd find out and flame you. always observing !Langauge in here of course :P
[01:06] <Eagleray> backgen: choose this entry to boot windows from your NTFS partition
[01:07] <theLOCUST> hehello, i was wondering if there was a macbook hello
[01:07] <soundray> lovedeatm: some daemons can be made to do this with 'sudo invoke-rc.d daemonname reload'
[01:07] <Eagleray> wols_: ah well, then I guess I'd better go join #debian as well and ask there
[01:07] <wols_> Eagleray: happens the same in #debian with ubuntu users, just more often and with swear and flame them a lot more
[01:07] <theLOCUST> hello i was wondering if there was a maccbook channel?
[01:07] <soundray> lovedeatm: if not, 'restart' always works
[01:07] <wols_> Eagleray: to be honest, better chance of an answer too
[01:07] <bazhang> theLOCUST: for dual booting?
[01:07] <wols_> theLOCUST: #apple. unless it's about question of ubuntu on a macbook
[01:08] <Eagleray> wols_: Oh? Interesting.... I figured I'd have a better chance here 'cause of the higher traffic
[01:08] <theLOCUST> bazhang: no, just in general.. i'm having battery problems
[01:08] <theLOCUST> i have gutsy installed on my macbook
[01:08] <bazhang> ##apple theLOCUST
[01:08] <Eagleray> wols_: and didn't think it would be an issue noting that they are very, very similar systems
[01:08] <wols_> Eagleray: how many ubuntu people do you know who compile their own kernels? and 700 poeple or 1200 doesn't make much difference
[01:08] <lovedeatm> soundray thanks it worked
[01:08] <theLOCUST> i don't have os x on it
[01:08] <bazhang> !dualboot | theLOCUST
[01:08] <ubotu> theLOCUST: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:08] <Eagleray> wols_: good point... one
[01:08] <theLOCUST> i don't want to dual boot
[01:08] <backgen> Eagleray: ok well in my install thing, it gives me 3 options: Guided: resize SCSI1 (0,0,0) partition #2 (sda) and use freed space (and then i have a little slider thing, with 91% 63.3GB and that's roughly 91% of the NTFS partition with windows on it) and then the second option is: Guided: Use Entire Disk...and then Manual
[01:08] <Eagleray> wols_: and he's a former gentoo user
[01:09] <Eagleray> backgen: use manual
[01:09] <wols_> Eagleray: we don't hold your past against you. too much
[01:09] <Eagleray> backgen: hahahaha
[01:09] <wols_> everyone is entitled to make mistakes in their youth
[01:09] <theLOCUST> my battery isn't being recognized by gnome-power-management
[01:09] <backgen> ok
[01:09] <backgen> Eagleray: now Manual has it's own set of problems
[01:09] <theLOCUST> it only shows ac power
[01:09] <Eagleray> wols_: only thing is, I would normally consider ubuntu to be a mistake....
[01:10] <wols_> Eagleray: ubuntu is good for what it's set out to do
[01:10] <Eagleray> wols_: agreed
[01:10] <bazhang> theLOCUST: if you don't get an answer here, then the ubuntuforums has a whole section--you might want to post something/search there
[01:10] <Eagleray> wols_: it's a brilliant system, but just not what I need
[01:10] <soundray> theLOCUST: there are installation reports on Apple laptops, listed by model name on tuxmobil.org. See if others have been able to solve that problem.
[01:10] <Eagleray> wols_: debian suits me better
[01:10] <u_angel> help! fire fox does not work under one of my profiles. the process is there and i see it under "ps aux| grep firefox" but i see no firefox
[01:10] <wols_> it would rarely (except maybe for a notebook) be a distro for me, but say relatives who want a cheap secure system it's great
[01:10] <theLOCUST> Eagleray: thanks
[01:11] <wols_> u_angel: kill the process, rename or delete your ~/.mozilla, restart ffox
[01:11] <u_angel> wols_: let me try that
[01:11] <wols_> u_angel: best reaneme. if it doesn't fix it you still have your mozilla settings
[01:12] <backgen> Eagleray: ok so heres my list of devices: /dev/sda (nothing beside it), /dev/sda1 fat 16 (my Dell utilities), /dev/sda2 NTFS (my missing Windows),  /dev/sda 5 (no format though the size indicated that this is the linux one i just made) and finally /dev/sda6 (no format though the size indicates it's the swap i just made)...now when i select the /dev/sda5 and click Next...it says theres no root file
[01:13] <ronnie_> backgen: how about your swap volume@@?
[01:13] <u_angel> same thing happening with firefox
[01:13] <backgen> ronnie_: swap volume is 1.1GB
[01:13] <soundray> backgen: you need to declare a mount point for /dev/sda5 and call it "/" (just the slash equals root)
[01:13] <ronnie_> .......
[01:13] <u_angel> what is "/bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin" ?
[01:13] <wols_> ronnie_: sda6 is his swap
[01:13] <theLOCUST> I've searched everywhere for a solution to this problem and can't find anything
[01:14] <ronnie_> backgen: dont you thinked that is toooooooo big....
[01:14] <lovedeatm> how do oyu view mtab?
[01:14] <ronnie_> backgen: i just give my swap apace 8MB....
[01:14] <soundray> theLOCUST: tuxmobil.org?
[01:14] <astro76> lovedeatm, type mount
[01:14] <ronnie_> lovedeatm: mount table?
[01:15] <theLOCUST> soundray: yeah, there also... i went there ad noticed i've been to that page before
[01:15] <backgen> ronnie_: well i followed the directions of wols_, and it's ok i've got quite a bit of space so i'm not worried
[01:15] <theLOCUST> no one seems to have this problem
[01:15] <fabio> my virtualbox not detect my dvd
[01:15] <u_angel> angel    12211  0.0  0.0   1756   528 ?        S    20:12   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox
[01:15] <backgen> soundray: yeah thats what i did! but it won't register on the table and it still wont let me go forward
[01:15] <u_angel> angel    12223  0.0  0.0   1756   532 ?        S    20:12   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[01:15] <u_angel> angel    12227  8.8  1.7 130392 36548 ?        Sl   20:12   0:01 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[01:15] <u_angel> why is there 2 firefox-bin running? is this normal?
[01:15] <soundray> u_angel: don't do this please
[01:15] <theLOCUST> my battery just doesn't show up in gnome-power management ... it used to
[01:16] <ronnie_> backgen: :P
[01:16] <theLOCUST> then upon reboot at some point it didn't anymore
[01:16] <u_angel> soundray: huh? what do you mean? do what? sry, i'm a noob
[01:16] <soundray> !paste | u_angel
[01:16] <ubotu> u_angel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:17] <fabio> virtualbox not detect my dvd
[01:17] <unbeatabl> could someone tell me what server-wide ssl do? will that be able to secure all my virtualhosts ? how is that possible? shouldnt ssl be per domain/IP basis?
[01:17] <u_angel> soundray: ubotu: oh ok!
[01:17] <Eagleray> backgen: you need to tell it to use sda5 as ext3, mounted as /
[01:18] <Eagleray> and use sda6 as swap
[01:18] <bazhang> fabio: you should look for answers in the virtual box irc channel or at www.virtualbox.org
[01:18] <puff> What's the generally preferred way to get dual monitors working with a dell latitude?
[01:18] <backgen> Eagleray: ok thanks!
[01:18] <Torgoton> I'm trying the "Absolute minimum" installation, but it crashes right at startup every time. I've tried the Mini ISO and the alternate CD (files from them, really). The debug output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48887/ (It's short!)
[01:18] <puff> I'm reading through the dual monitor howto and it lists xinerama, twinview, mergdf8
[01:18]  * u_angel shakes his head in embarrassment
[01:18] <caoilte> hello
[01:18] <fabio> bazhang: shut up
[01:18] <soundray> !ops | fabio abusive
[01:18] <ubotu> fabio abusive: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[01:18] <hdevalence> I'm having an issue with rsync
[01:19] <hdevalence> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48964/
[01:19] <backgen> Eagleray: and bingo...i get my lovely warning again....File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected); size of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).
[01:19] <elkbuntu> !attitude | fabio
[01:19] <ubotu> fabio: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:19] <bazhang> hey Torgoton
[01:19] <sander__> hi folks
[01:19] <Torgoton> hola bazhang.
[01:19] <sander__> i need help with vmware-player, the bridge conection don't works here...
[01:19] <u_angel> so is it normal to have 2 Firefox-bin running?
[01:19] <Javid> Let's all use bot macros instead of answering the dude's question. That's awesome.
[01:19] <soundray> puff: if your hardware supports it, try twinview first.
[01:20] <bazhang> Javid: heh
[01:20] <sander__> somebody can help-me with vmware-player?
[01:20] <Eagleray> backgen: which partition is giving that error?
[01:20] <Javid> Well, you tried, but nobody else did
[01:20] <backgen> eagleray: sda5
[01:21] <kbrosnan> u_angel: yes
[01:21] <Eagleray> backgen: what filesystem is that formatted as?
[01:21] <sander__> who is the name of a interface bridged in linux? this appear in ifconfig ?
[01:21] <puff> soundray: Thanks, yeah, it's an nvidia card.
[01:21] <sander__> who is the name of a interface bridged(vmware) in linux? this appear in ifconfig ?
[01:21] <kbrosnan> u_angel: firefox is a script which launches firefox-bin
[01:21] <backgen> well i did it wos_ and we just formatted it as linux
[01:21] <soundray> Javid: if he's not responding to one sensible question, why bother?
[01:22] <backgen> Eagleray: and in the installer i made it to ext3 with / like you told me
[01:22] <sander__> some here uses vmware in linux???
[01:22] <lovedeatm> my flash drive won't mount any ideas? it was at one point i don't know why it won't now
[01:22] <bazhang> sander__: some do, though more probably use...virtualbox
[01:22] <Javid> I use vmware
[01:23] <soundray> lovedeatm: see if the settings are correct in System-Preferences-Removable drives
[01:23] <sander__> Javid: hi.. what is your connection type in the vmware?  bridged ???
[01:23] <Javid> yep
[01:23] <Javid> and it works
[01:23] <sander__> bazhang: hi.. what is your connection type in the vmware?  bridged ???
[01:24] <Eagleray> backgen: then as long as you are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that you are in fact installing on the ext3 partition, I'd say ignore the warning and continue
[01:24] <hdevalence> what does "cannot stat destination "/media/sda2/backup": Input/output error (5)" mean?
[01:24] <backgen> Eagleray: alright lets give this a shot
[01:24] <bazhang> sander__: I used vmware-server; don't know if that is the same as player, but yeah bridged
[01:24] <sander__> bazhang: what is the version of your kernel?
[01:25] <bazhang> sander__: is the other option NAT? It's been awhile since I used it (since it is no longer free)
[01:25] <backgen> Eagleray: and here we go!
[01:25] <sander__> bazhang: i need use the bridge mode to test my samba in this pc, but i cant ping in the host os
[01:25] <Eagleray> backgen: excellent :D
[01:26] <Eagleray> backgen: let me know how you get on
[01:26] <backgen> Eagleray: haha you know for a while now i've been thinking that if this doesn't work then screw it all, i'll just make this entire Computer linux
[01:26] <cabroni_> where to learn screensaver programing?
[01:26] <soundray> hdevalence: sounds like a bad medium. Can you give some more context?
[01:26] <sander__> bazhang: in the bridged mode you know if appears some of the interface of vmware there? (with ifconfig command) do you know???
[01:26] <luis> hello all
[01:26] <saltire> can someone let me know how I can repair the boot record in vista?
[01:27]  * soundray pats backgen on the shoulder: good thinking
[01:27] <backgen> Eagleray: ooh, also...once the installation is done...will the GRUB thing to recover Windows take a long time you think?
[01:27] <luis> I know this place is for ubuntu related stuff but was hoping if anyone knew the solution to this problem
[01:27] <backgen> soundray: :)
[01:27] <luis> someone sent me a message with an attachment that seems incomplete
[01:27] <bazhang> sander__: again, this was in server, so not that much in the know about player (never used player), but could get an ip address assigned for the vm
[01:27] <luis> and along with 8 other messages all with what looks to be code for an image, how in the world does that happen? O_o
[01:27] <cabroni_> how I create ubuntu screensavers??
[01:28] <backgen> Whatever happened to Jack?
[01:28] <bazhang> luis: an attachment? treat as suspect
[01:28] <luis> anyone know how to convert jpgs to code? if that's possible
[01:28] <sander__> bazhang: yes, i understand.. but server and player can use bridged connections
[01:28] <luis> well, I know the person, that's why.
[01:28] <saltire> I installed ubuntu and now I can't get into ubuntu or vista
[01:28] <soundray> cabroni_: have a look at the author's web page, perhaps starting with the FAQ: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html
[01:29] <sander__> bazhang: i only want to know, if this show some info about the vmware interface in the ifconfig output
[01:29] <bazhang> saltire: which installed first?
[01:29] <mneptok> saltire: the folks in ##windows know how to restore a Microsoft MBR
[01:29] <saltire> vista
[01:29] <iasymptonc> Finally found that the initrds being built were incorrect for some reason (not sure why still).  Copying from another machine got me booting.  Now a second question.  How do I switch to a properly debianized grub configuration?  Is there a package I'm missing?
[01:29] <Eagleray> backgen: the grub think takes exactly zero seconds, and no idea where Jack went
[01:29] <cabroni_> thanks
[01:29] <luis> bazhang, I think the person just f'd up in sending the attachment, I know the person and they used MIME coding, which makes me go "wtf?"
[01:30] <mneptok> luis: MIME encoding is exactly the correct thing to use in e-mail
[01:30] <backgen> Eagleray: fantastic! cuz i have an exam tomorrow and i havn't studied for it at all since i've been fiddling around with Ubuntu for the past few days
[01:30] <bazhang> luis: ah mime--that would need to be decompressed to get a photo
[01:30] <soundray> saltire: it's probably better to try and complete the Ubuntu bootloader installation. Follow the "RecoveringUbuntu..." link:
[01:30] <soundray> !grub | saltire
[01:30] <ubotu> saltire: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:30] <luis> so, is there anyway to retrieve the photo from all this code?
[01:31] <luis> like maybe save the code as a jpg, if that's possible.
[01:31] <mneptok> luis: i wouldn't
[01:31] <mneptok> luis: tell them to put it on the web somewhere
[01:31] <sander__> somebody here that use vmware got to work a bridged connection in 2.6 kernels ?
[01:31] <mneptok> luis: decoding and executing random, broken e-mail attachments is pretty risky.
[01:31] <albert23> sander__: you will not see the vmware guest eth interface on you host system
[01:31] <luis> I will, because she messed up in sending me this, lol.
[01:32] <luis> mneptok, it's not that random, because I know the person
[01:32] <Eagleray> backgen: ouch! Exam with no revision = pain on the day the marks are released
[01:32] <luis> lol
[01:32] <bazhang> luis: it's been awhile since I have seen that, and again be careful of that, but there are decoders for mime you can get--try a local search engine and use term mime jpg and you will get a bunch of results; alternately just tell your friend to attach the jpg file--a lot easier imo
[01:32] <sander__> albert23: ok... but here, i cant ping in the host system
[01:32] <mneptok> luis: sure it's random
[01:33] <julian_> i cant get the visual effects to work. i installed the ati driver from their webpage and everything is fine. i cant start end edit the setting with the catalyst control center. but when i try to set the visual effects to "extras" it says: "could not enable effects"..
[01:33] <mneptok> luis: how do you think e-mail vectored malware finds new victims?
[01:33] <SpookyET> Hi
[01:33] <luis> thanks bazhang
[01:33] <albert23> sander__: did you give the guest an IP address in the same subnet as the host system is using?
[01:33] <luis> true true.
[01:33] <sander__> albert23: i configured the virtual machine to use 192.168.1.20, and my eth0 from my host system have 192.168.1.10... and i cant ping
[01:33] <bazhang> luis listen to mneptok
[01:33] <luis> I will, thanks for the helps anyways.
[01:33] <julian_> do i need xserver-xgl? but when i install it, and reboot the catalyst control center doesnt work anymore
[01:33] <luis> Danke schoen!
[01:33] <cabroni_> exist a bass guitar program that create music?
[01:33] <julian_> anyone knows what to do?
[01:33] <SpookyET> I've been getting a lot of system freezes today. Firefox, Rhythmbox., mostly firefox. System Monitor says that it's uninterruptable. When it freezes, everything freezes. Any ideas?
[01:34] <bazhang> no problem luis
[01:34] <soundray> SpookyET: run memtest86 overnight to see if your RAM is faulty
[01:34] <albert23> sander__: you tried ping both from host to guest and from guest to host? Some operating system will simply not reply to ping.
[01:34] <cyrano> anyone knows when flash will work again?
[01:34] <sander__> albert23: when i type ifconfig in the terminal, only the interfaces that appear are: eth0 and lo... its correct?
[01:34] <bazhang> julian_: what is the 'catalyst control center'? not sure what you mean
[01:34] <bazhang> cyrano: shortly, most likely
[01:35] <robdig> SpookyET: checkout dmesg, see if anything is happening there
[01:35] <Phusion> sander__, yeah, thats your ethernet and loopback devices
[01:35] <julian_> its the settings manager shipped with the ati driver
[01:35] <sander__> albert23: wait... i will try here, thanks.. i back
[01:35] <cyrano> bazhang: been some time know...
[01:35] <bazhang> cyrano: two days?
[01:35] <cyrano> so it would be welcome
[01:35] <albert23> sander__: yes, just eth0 and lo should be ok
[01:36] <SpookyET> soundray: ram cannot become faulty overnight. it's 2day ubuntu install.
[01:36] <sander__> albert23: i thinked that this will appear some about vmware interfaces...
[01:36]  * Pelo realy hates the way kernel updates rewrites the grub menu and changes the root hdd,  not every idiot has windows on their boot drive 
[01:36] <cyrano> more a week
[01:37] <albert23> sander__: for bridging only there is no separate interface
[01:37] <bazhang> julian_: they have a linux version of the 'catalyst control center', or this is through windows?
[01:37] <sander__> albert23: i try here and nothing happens.. 100% packet loss :(
[01:38] <julian_> they have a ubuntu version of the catalyst control center
[01:38] <sander__> albert23: 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9002ms
[01:38] <SpookyET> New Duke Nukem Forever Teaser Trailer Released! hahah wow
[01:38] <bazhang> julian_: any reason to install from ati site and not from the repositories?
[01:38] <sander__> albert23: you got to work with bridged there?
[01:38] <cyrano> .
[01:38] <cyrano> sorry
[01:39] <albert23> sander__: yes, I am using bridged network
[01:39] <Eroick> I just installled ubuntu but video isnt all it should be. My card is an ATI Radion Xpress 200. Its an onboard chip. What driver should i use with it?
[01:39] <julian_> enemy territory wasnt working with the repo version
[01:39] <julian_> the ati website driver is working for quake wars
[01:39] <cleaton> how can i use rm to remove all files with a special ending?
[01:39] <bazhang> julian_: okay, enemy territory :}
[01:39] <MasterShrek> cleaton: rm *.txt
[01:39] <crush_groove> is there a way to lower mem usage .or refresh memory ?
[01:39] <Eagleray> cleaton: rm *specialending
[01:40] <cleaton> dosent' work
[01:40] <MasterShrek> yes it does
[01:40] <Eagleray> cleaton: what are you trying ot remove?
[01:40] <humblerodent> cleaton: what happens instead?
[01:40] <humblerodent> cleaton: don't forget it's case-sensitive
[01:40] <julian_> bazhang, but the problem still exists. do i need xserver-xgl for the cube and the other effects?
[01:40] <u_angel> kbrosnan: thanks!
[01:40] <bazhang> julian_: well if you installed something that disallowed you to play enemy territory, then best to un-install it, yeah?
[01:40] <cleaton> it dosen't work with the -R ?
[01:40] <sander__> albert23: before, when i use slackware 11 (kernel 2.4), this bridged works perfectly.. when i install vmplayer in slackware 12, and ubuntu this never works.. the bridged mode
[01:41] <SuperQ> cleaton: oh
[01:41] <albert23> sander__: on the host system, does lsmod | grep vmnet show you the vmnet module?
[01:41] <backgen> Eagleray: ok, installation is done...do you want me to reboot into Ubuntu without the live CD?
[01:41] <SuperQ> cleaton: no, it won't work with -R
[01:41] <julian_> the other reason is the ati driver is newer than the repo version
[01:41] <Eagleray> backgen: yep - brb
[01:41] <SuperQ> cleaton: the reason is that bash expans "*.foo" before it gets sent to the command
[01:41] <SuperQ> expans/expands
[01:41] <sander__> albert23: yes
[01:41] <sander__> albert23: its there
[01:42] <PlexQ> anyone know how to get widescreen monitors to be recognized in dapper?
[01:42] <SuperQ> cleaton: rm does not understand the wildcards
[01:42] <SuperQ> cleaton: bash does
[01:42] <cleaton> oh i c
[01:42] <puff> Yah, let's hear it for nvidia-settings gui!
[01:42] <SuperQ> cleaton: if you want, you can try this
[01:42] <bazhang> julian_: afaik, the repo version aims for stability; going outside of it may lead to problems--thus the conflict between the 'catalyst control center' and xserver-xgl, compiz, 3D cube etc
[01:43] <humblerodent> cleaton: -R is just for recursive deletion, like tree deletion with directory contents
[01:43] <humblerodent> just for deleting files you shouldn't need that, cleaton
[01:43] <SuperQ> cleaton: find /path -name "*.foo" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -v
[01:43] <PlexQ> recursive is -r
[01:43] <albert23> sander__: Can you use the network in the guest system? i.e. can you surf the Internet from the guest?
[01:43] <SuperQ> cleaton: that will handle long lists of files and files with odd names (spaces in them)
[01:43] <sander__> albert23: i have this problem for a much time, and dont find anythink about in the google :(
[01:44] <sander__> albert23: no... nothing that use connection through the inteface bridge  works
[01:44] <humblerodent> PlexQ: -R is the same as -r in rm, according to my manpage :P
[01:44] <PlexQ> ah - cool
[01:44] <SuperQ> humblerodent: yes
[01:44] <SuperQ> it's equiv on most *NIX
[01:44] <puff> Hm, okay, so now that I have dual monitors working on my laptop, what do I do when I have to undock and go on the road?
[01:45] <sander__> albert23: dont got to surffing, network, ping... nothing... but the connection in the so is active... the status is connected
[01:45]  * bazhang needs a Q in his name
[01:45] <cleaton> SuperQ, thanks, :) turned out it was just one file
[01:45] <puff> Is there any way to set it up so the second window is a second workspace?
[01:45] <SuperQ> cleaton: find is your friend :)
[01:45] <sander__> albert23: in the virtual machine
[01:45] <mneptok> sander__: what interface?
[01:46] <sander__> mneptok: the bridged mode of vmplayer
[01:46]  * SuperQ does a UNIX dance, find grep awk tr sed xargs!
[01:46] <bazhang> haha
[01:46] <mneptok> sander__: what does the Ubuntu system call this interface?
[01:46] <albert23> sander__: and the ethernet interface in the guest is connected to the bridged network?
[01:47] <marcioapf> how can i use skype on ubuntu?
[01:47] <sander__> albert23: how can i know about this?
[01:47] <cabroni_> can ardour manage midis?
[01:47] <bazhang> marcioapf: install it
[01:47] <Pelo> !skype | marcioapf
[01:47] <ubotu> marcioapf: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:47] <sander__> mneptok: this dont have a interface in linux... just uses the /dev/vmnet0 devices
[01:47] <u_angel> when i login i get an error about my .dmrc having wrong permissions. i fixed this but it keeps coming back
[01:47] <albert23> sander__: not sure for vmware player, but you should be able to configure that in the vm settings
[01:48] <teddy233> I have many VLANS setup and i want to know if i can have 1 dhcp serv. that will give different ip ranges based on where request came from?
[01:48] <marcioapf> Pelo thx  =)
[01:48] <sander__> albert23: here in the vmplayer windows , the bridged option is setted
[01:48] <Pelo> teddy233, maybe the ppl in #networking can help you with this
[01:48] <albert23> sander__: that should be fine
[01:48] <sander__> albert23: and connected is marked
[01:49] <teddy233> kk thanks
[01:49] <bazhang> http://ardour.org/taxonomy/term/19/0/feed cabroni
[01:49] <sander__> albert23: in the "Ethernet" button
[01:49] <albert23> sander__: which operating systems are running in guest and host?
[01:49] <mneptok> sander__: what does ifconfig say?
[01:50] <sander__> guest is: windows 2000 and host is debian 4 R1 (i just tried with ubuntu and slackware 12 and the same problem was happen
[01:50] <Bob40> Yellooowww
[01:50] <sander__> mneptok: this shows eth0 and lo interfaces...
[01:50] <mneptok> sander__: so the guest OS that cannot connect is Windows?
[01:50] <Pelo> slackware 12 is out ????
[01:50] <sander__> albert23: ah.. my eth0 already have an ipadress assigned... its ok, and up
[01:50] <bazhang> haha Pelo
[01:50] <mneptok> sander__: wait ... where is Ubuntu in this?
[01:51] <sander__> mneptok: the both guest and host cant connect
[01:51] <mneptok> sander__: if you're not using Ubuntu as the host or guest, please do not ask for help on this channel
[01:51] <sander__> mneptok: debian is an alternative, i thinked this will solve, but the same ocours :(
[01:51] <sean13> hey there, i'm trying to play eve(installed the deb from the eve site) but everytime I try to start eve X restarts
[01:51] <mneptok> sander__: Debian as host and Windows as guest means "go to #debian or ##windows"
[01:51] <bazhang> sander__: join #slackware :}
[01:52] <SpookyET> Firefox froze again. I think it's the latest flash release. Is there a way to go back?
[01:52] <Pelo> sean13, check on hte eve website for a forum or an irc channel,  they might have a solution
[01:52] <sean13> when I done the eve test it says that my opengl drivers are not setup correctly
[01:52] <sander__> mneptok: but i use ubuntu feyst :P
[01:52] <sean13> and I have no idea how do set them up
[01:52] <jjf> Hey Everyone. Quick Question. What do I have to edit to keep future Ubuntu Updates from changing the GRUB boot parameters?
[01:52] <sander__> mneptok: and have the same problem
[01:52] <mneptok> sander__: regardless, you are taking support time from people actually using Ubuntu
[01:53] <yigal> jjf: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <Pelo> jjf, kernel updates will change the menu.lst file everytime, you can only not do those updates
[01:53] <sander__> mneptok: i use ubuntu, debian and slack12
[01:54] <Bllz> I can't put my wireless card into monitor mode despite having installed and patched (hopefully properly) the madwifi-ng driver
[01:54] <sean13> anyone know how to install opengl?
[01:54] <sander__> mneptok: i need help in ubuntu, cause have the same problems
[01:54] <mneptok> sander__: you do NOT use Ubuntu on this VM machine. so please stop asking for Debian and Windows support in #ubuntu
[01:54] <Pelo> sean13, search for opengl in synaptic ,  menu > ystem > admin < synaptic package manager
[01:54] <sander__> mneptok: windows is my guest OS
[01:54] <pegasus> This is kinda of odd, but my sound was out of the box, but after a clean install of the same distro and version, sound doesn't work. What gives?
[01:55] <Pelo> !sound | pegasus  start with this
[01:55] <ubotu> pegasus  start with this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:55] <sander__> mneptok: ubuntu, debian and slackware is my host... i have the THERE os! did you understand?
[01:55] <mneptok> sander__: i'm not playing semantic games about it. stop asking how to configure VMWare under Debian in #ubuntu. end of story.
[01:55] <backgen> wols_ :D well i just rebooted my computer, and everything is working perfectly fine...i've got my windows exactly as it was and a brand new Ubuntu!!! thank you so much, and if you ever see Eagleray or Jack again tell them thank you from me too!
[01:55] <yigal> jjf: new kernels will add new kernels but they need not change the boot parameters, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:55] <Bllz> Anybody know how I can put my wireless card into monoitor mode?  I have the madwifi driver installed, but I cannot do it for some reason
[01:56] <Pelo> Bllz, ask periodicaly but a little less often, also check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:56] <yigal> jjf: where there is 1 '#' and the parameters will keep even when kernels are added
[01:56] <sean13> Pelo: i've done that but I can't find an opengl package
[01:56] <jjf> yigal, Thanks! I'll go check that out now.
[01:57] <Pelo> sean13, check for gl
[01:57] <yigal> jjf: its all in there
[01:57] <sander__> k
[01:57] <slugone> !install
[01:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:57] <sean13> Pelo: nope, not there either
[01:58] <Eagleray> backgen: great to hear it's working well
[01:59] <Pelo> sean13, the pakcages related are not called opengl,  there are many opengl related packages in there , 257 to be exact ,  do a little more digging
[02:00] <UberDuper> Can anyone tell me how to setup the pxeboot config to do a netboot install of 7.10 _server_ ?
[02:00] <firebird619> I installed PulseAudio on Gutsy following the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio, and now I do not have sound and when I open the PulseAudio Volume Control, it says Connection Failed: Connection Refused. What can I do to resolve this issue?
[02:00] <UberDuper> It looks like the netboot image from previous versions had boot labels for server.
[02:00] <UberDuper> But 7.10 does not.
[02:00] <Bllz> Can anyone help me with aircrack-ng?  I can't put my wireless card into monitor mode
[02:00] <jjf> yigal, If I add 1 '#' in front of the boot parameter line (i.e. root   (hd1,0) ) then it won't modify that line any longer AND it's not seen as a comment, correct?
[02:00] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[02:01] <thor> Bllz are you sure your card supports monitor mode...not all do
[02:01] <livingdaylight> what is a suitable plugin for audio/x-wav? Firefox says it couldn't find one?
[02:01] <Bllz> thor:  it supports madwifi-ng, so I'm assuming yes?  Might it still not support it?
[02:01] <backgen> Eagleray: hey! i didn't see your name in the list of people in the room, so i thought you were still gone
[02:01] <yigal> jjf: I'm not sure as grub uses single '#'s for boot options
[02:01] <backgen> Eagleray: thank you so much for everything!!
[02:02] <kbrosnan> livingdaylight: totem or mplayer should have one
[02:02] <sean13> Pelo: i'm using a radeon mobility if that helps
[02:02] <Eagleray> backgen: nope, I've been lurking here all along ;-)
[02:02] <Eagleray> backgen: no worries
[02:02] <sadaiyappan> Hi.
[02:02] <thor> Bllz might not...not all cards that use a particular module will support all features of that module
[02:02] <Pelo> sean13, go in eh forum and do a search for  opengl ati
[02:02] <jjf> yigal, I was just asking because there are comments in menu.lst that are prefix with just 1 '#'
[02:02] <Bllz> thor.  okay i'll google it.  Is there a way to get the card's make/model from a terminal command?
[02:02] <Eagleray> backgen: wols_ is around somewhere too, although he's in #debian as well
[02:02] <livingdaylight> kbrosnan, hrmm
[02:03] <rafaelsoaresbr> what's the correct command: modprobe or insmod? (kernel 2.6)
[02:03] <thor> Bllz not sure...if it is usb lsusb might work, pcmcia might show up in lspci...worth a try
[02:04] <yigal> jjf: yes, those are the options in effect, with only 1 #
[02:04] <kbrosnan> livingdaylight: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 i think
[02:04] <livingdaylight> kbrosnan, thanks amigo
[02:04] <yigal> jjf: test it :), turn vga=791 or what ever it is to vga=795 or something and then issue $sudo update-grub
[02:05] <jjf> I'll go and try it. Thanks!
[02:05] <Eagleray> rafaelsoaresbr: you can use either
[02:05] <wesw02> how can I ssh into my desktop and launch a gui app on my desktop computer?
[02:05] <yigal> jjf: edit lines with 1 '#' to add your desired preferences that Won't go away upon install of a new kernel.
[02:06] <thor> wesw02 do you have sshd running on your desktop?
[02:06] <wesw02> yes
[02:06] <wesw02> i'm connected via ssh
[02:06] <rafaelsoaresbr> Eagleray, thanks, but...
[02:06] <Eagleray> rafaelsoaresbr: by default insmod inserts a module file directly, and modprobe loads it from the /lib/modules/<kernelversion/ tree
[02:06] <Eagleray> rafaelsoaresbr: but what?
[02:06] <jjf> yigal, Out of curiosity, how do comments that start with 1 '#' not "mess up" grub?
[02:06] <thor> wesw02 are you using vnc or some such remote access...or do you want to open a window on your computer from the desktop?
[02:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> Eagleray, insmod needs ".../uname-r/...", modprobe not?
[02:07] <clever> insmod needs a full path
[02:07] <wesw02> no, I'm connect to my desktop via ssh, through my ssh terminal I want to launch a gui app on my desktop
[02:07] <clever> modprobe doesnt need a path or the .ko
[02:07] <yigal> jjf: the preferences are set, by default, to be reasonably "good", but altering them you end up with what you want - does that answer the question?
[02:07] <thor> wesw02 if you want to just run an app in a window, you need to ssh with the command 'ssh -X <ip address>'
[02:07] <Eagleray> correct, if you are inserting modules from /lib/modules/<kernel>/ then modprobe is easier
[02:07] <clever> modprobe will also load other modules it may need
[02:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> clever,Eagleray,  thanks,
[02:07] <Eagleray> rafaelsoaresbr: for modprobe you don't give the path, just the module name
[02:08] <wesw02> I want to launch a gui app in the x session running on the desktop
[02:08] <Pelo> wesw02, try issuing the command with  export DISPLAY=:0 && command ...
[02:08] <thor> wesw02 you want it to appear on the desktop monitor?
[02:08] <jjf> yigal, I'l still confused. But, that's ok. You've pointed me in the right direction, so I'll play around with it. Thanks again
[02:08] <wesw02> thor, yes
[02:08] <thor> wesw02 then you can't do it via ssh...you need a desktop sharing package
[02:08] <clever> Pelo: 'DISPLAY=:0.0 cmd' also works and wont affect further commands
[02:09] <thor> wesw02 I think nxclient and server will do that...and vnc if I remember correctly
[02:09] <wesw02> thor, this worked:  export DISPLAY=:0 && firefox
[02:09] <thor> wesw02 hmmm...ok....never tried anything like that. I always wanted the app to show up on my laptop
[02:12]  * Pelo wonders if all those join/parts have to do with #ubuntu being listed as the default channel to join in xchat on a clean install ... 
[02:15] <Lin> hi
[02:15]  * robdig thinks that Pelo is on to something...
[02:15] <Pelo> hello lin
[02:15] <Lin> does ubuntu support radeon video card well?
[02:15] <yigal> haven't people heard of using screen and irssi, or even xchat and ssh so many people coming and going coming and going
[02:16] <Lunar_Lamp> Lin - yes - though depends upon the exact model.
[02:16]  * nickrud thinks pelo has had a truly epiphianic thought
[02:16] <Pelo> lin depends on the model, but most are supported throught either restricted drivers or binairyones from the makers webise
[02:16] <wesw02> is there a test speak application available for the command line?
[02:16]  * Pelo look for a dictionnary to look up epiphianic 
[02:16] <Eagleray> yigal: I don't think most people even know that screen and irssi exist, certainly not new users anyway
[02:16] <clever> wesw02: speaker-test
[02:16] <wesw02> thanks!
[02:16] <Pelo> !lin | ati
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <Lin> video card is 2400 pro sapphire
[02:16] <Pelo> !ati | lin
[02:17] <ubotu> lin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:17] <nickrud> lol
[02:17] <clever> Eagleray: i use screen and irssi alot
[02:17] <clever> Eagleray: and my cell has an ssh client so i can ssh in and screen -x
[02:17] <yigal> clever: yes, well I'm glad to here someone also uses it
[02:18] <nickrud> clever, that has to be the most geeky thing I've heard all week
[02:18] <nickrud> or year
[02:18] <Eagleray> clever: I also use screen and irssi on my server.... don't use IRC from my cell though
[02:18] <clever> nickrud: and my pc will also sms me when my name is said online:P
[02:18] <Eagleray> clever: now that's clever ;-)
[02:18] <nickrud> I leave my phone home whenever possible
[02:18] <Pelo> nickrud, even wiktionary doesn'T know what epiphianic is
[02:18] <clever> so people can yell out to me for help and i can still get online from the road:P
[02:19]  * robdig thinks the cell phone companies would like that very much
[02:19] <nickrud> Pelo, eh, I made it up, it's a nounization of epiphany (and don't waste your time on nounization either :)
[02:19] <clever> its dads bill:P
[02:19]  * Pelo thinks cell phone companies shold be hunted down and shot
[02:19] <Ose> Transparency is only showing my background (Not other windows) in Konsole. Is that intended?
[02:20] <Pelo> nickrud, I can guess at nounization
[02:20] <nickrud> or averbalized that is
[02:20] <yigal> If only people cared about how transparently a program was developed now that is what I call transparency
[02:20] <nickrud> I gotta bite, what phone are you using, clever
[02:21] <clever> nickrud: treo 650 for the ssh client(dads phone)
[02:21] <Ose> Hm.. Seems to be how all transparency is. That doesn't seem right..
[02:21] <clever> nickrud: and a old nokia for receiving the texts(the phone i have on me allways)
[02:21] <clever> nickrud: if dad has his phone with me i still have 1 way access to irc
[02:22] <clever> usefull to turn arround if out for a walk
[02:22] <Zelminar> Hi guys... I'm new to linux, and I gto a PS3 with Linux on it, kinda curious if anyone would like to chat?
[02:22] <bazhang> Zelminar: this is a support channel
[02:22] <Pelo> Zelminar,  this is the ubuntu support channel, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <yigal> does anyone here use Mercurial for personal work?
[02:23] <Zelminar> <,< very sorry
[02:23] <Pelo> Zelminar, no problem at least you asked before starting to spam the channel
[02:23] <Zelminar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <Zelminar> oops
[02:23] <Pelo> Zelminar, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <Zelminar> ya I got it lol
[02:24] <Bllz> I'm trying to work aircrack-ng and I'm stuck:  sudo airmon-ng wifi0 just gives me an output of "useage: airmon-ng <start|stop> <interface> [channel].  What do I do?
[02:24] <Eagleray> Bllz: what exactly are you wanting to use aircrack for?
[02:25] <yigal> Bllz: a naughty neighbor ?
[02:25] <Bllz> Eagleray:  i'm trying to learn how to crack WEP
[02:25] <Bllz> legally, of course
[02:25] <yigal> Bllz: WEP, one has to start somewhere :)
[02:25] <nickrud> Bllz, you're forgetting the start or stop (according to the error message)
[02:26] <Bllz> nickrud:  what should the command be then?
[02:26] <nickrud> Bllz, If I got that error, I'd try aircrack-ng start wifi0
[02:27] <Geekomancer1> Hello everyone, I'm having desktop troubles. Literal desktop :) My icons are gone and right-click is disabled, and my wallpaper doesn't show up until after I open up the Appearances panel
[02:28] <Bllz> oh wow... it worked.  It onlyh took me like 3 weeks...
[02:29] <teddy233> where to get dhcp help?
[02:29] <Intelligitimate> Yo. My update thingy says only one update program can run at a time, but nothing is running. How do I fix it?
[02:29] <Juhaz> Geekomancer1, sounds like nautilus isn't running, start it from terminal and save session.
[02:30] <bazhang> !aptfix | Intelligitimate
[02:30] <ubotu> Intelligitimate: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:30] <ownlinux> use RM
[02:30] <Geekomancer1> Juhaz, "start nautilus"?
[02:30] <robdig> !ask | teddy233
[02:30] <ubotu> teddy233: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:30] <Bllz> IK now i'm getting a cryptic error from Kismet.  FATAL:  'get_mode' does not return integer parameters
[02:30] <Juhaz> Geekomancer1, just "nautilus" ought to do.
[02:31] <Geekomancer1> Yay! Thanks!
[02:31] <teddy233> i did ask
[02:31] <teddy233> where to get dhcp help? <-- asking
[02:32] <Intelligitimate> It hung the other day on initramfs-tools.
[02:32] <nickrud> teddy233, this is the place to ask, he meant ask about the actual problem you
[02:32] <winkman> teddy233: What's the problem? I know a LITTLE
[02:32] <nickrud> are having
[02:32] <bazhang> here. is that your only question? you are allowed only one, you know?
[02:32] <teddy233> oh
[02:32] <teddy233> ok
[02:32] <teddy233> I have many VLANS setup and i want to know if i can have 1 dhcp serv. that will give different ip range based on where request came from?
[02:33] <adam> hi all
[02:33] <adam> could someone take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3983138
[02:33] <shamas> hi guys, how do I change the permissions on my usr/share/icons folder
[02:33] <adam> and tell me what they think
[02:33] <mohd> what's the birthstone for libra?
[02:33] <shamas> so that I can copy stuff there...
[02:33] <bazhang> mohd offtopic
[02:33] <NelsonUWP> hey, how can I get my svid out to work on my dell inspiron 6000?
[02:33] <mohd> sorry ;)
[02:33] <nickrud> shamas, you don't want to do that; you want to create a directory /home/<you>/.icons , and put them there
[02:34] <hazar> hola
[02:34] <Shadow147> I am compiling foobillard and I get this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw
[02:34] <shamas> nickrud, will they show up in themes then?
[02:34] <hazar> hablan español
[02:34] <SpookyET> I'm playing with firefox 3 beta 2. It finally does not look alien on linux anymore. It uses GTK2 widgets and theme icons. sweet.
[02:34] <nickrud> shamas, yes. For you only, if there are other people that use this machine that you want to see the icons, use sudo to put them in /usr/share/icons
[02:35] <bazhang> !es | hazar
[02:35] <ubotu> hazar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:35] <Bllz> Ok I got my card into monitor mode (ath1 is in monitor mode.  ath0 is not), but when I start kismet, I get an error.  It's something about non-master non-monitor source interface ath0 channel 6 ... Madwifi-ng has had problems with normal-mode VAPs combined with monitor-mode VAPs.
[02:35] <Bllz> Is this because ath1 is in monitor mode and not ath0?
[02:35] <hazar> thanks
[02:35] <NelsonUWP> can someone help me enable svideo out?
[02:36] <Shadow147> how do I fix /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw?
[02:36] <adam> my ubuntu bootup freezes when my x driver is set to fglrx
[02:36] <winkman> does anyone know of a good strategy based game for ubuntu?
[02:36] <NelsonUWP> !video
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:36] <bazhang> wesnoth winkman
[02:37] <nickrud> winkman, wesnoth
[02:37] <Geekomancer1> One more question, the screen resolution SAYS I'm on 1200x800, but I'm pretty sure it's at 1024x768.  What could be causing it?
[02:37] <RomeReactor> hazar: try #Ubuntu-Mx
[02:37] <kanuha> how do you change the gnome splash screen?
[02:37] <winkman> nickrud, bazhang is it similar to warcraft?
[02:37] <shamas> nickrud, sorry I'm new to linux/unix, how do I use sudo to put an entire folder under usr/share/icons
[02:38] <zzZlumpZzz> bbiaf reboot needed
[02:38] <Bllz> yigal, you know how to crack WEP?
[02:38] <Shadow147> sudo flodername /usr/share/icons
[02:38] <bazhang> winkman: more like civ/aoe
[02:38] <ZombieGod> hey wussup.. my sound wont work  :(
[02:38] <winkman> mmk
[02:38] <Shadow147> sudo cp flodername /usr/share/icons**
[02:38] <bazhang> winkman: you can run wow under wine youknow
[02:39] <winkman> bazhang:...actually buying it is the problem... lol
[02:39] <ZombieGod> i got a dell Inspirion 1520 laptop.. i tryed teh stuff in the forum it didnt work.. mabey i did it wrong ?
[02:39] <n7|treefingers> is there a c++ channel on this network?
[02:39] <nickrud> shamas, see Shadow147 above if you missed it
[02:39] <bazhang> winkman: buying wine, or WoW? wine is free iirc, and WoW, not so sure
[02:40] <bazhang> !irc | n7|treefingers
[02:40] <ubotu> n7|treefingers: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:40] <selig5>     /quit
[02:40] <winkman> bazhang: Lol... not wine... i've got that all setup... it's actually buying WoW that's the problem... lol
[02:40] <n7|treefingers> bazhang: thanks
[02:40] <nickrud> n7|treefingers, yes, #c++
[02:40] <Bllz> I can't start kismet bc madwifi-ng tries to communicate with ath0 whereas ath1 is the one in monitor mode.  any suggestions?
[02:40] <bazhang> winkman: say no more :}
[02:40] <n7|treefingers> nickrud: thanks
[02:41] <Bllz> in fact, why are there two athX's?
[02:41] <NelsonUWP> !svideo
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <NelsonUWP> !ati
[02:41] <winkman> bazhang: Have you played stratagus?
[02:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:41] <bazhang> winkman: sounds good, strategy game?
[02:41] <ZombieGod> yeah.. uhh sound wont work.. well ok it did make a ping sound when i signed onto here.. but ive tried playing music wont work.. I tryed both of the players that come with this.. it installed coducs but wont play..
[02:41] <winkman> bazhang: aparently
[02:41] <Cygnet> does anyone know (out of curiosity) whether integrated nvidia graphics are better supported in Linux (read: for WoW) than integrated intel graphics?
[02:41] <franky_the_pierr> Hi, I need to stop x server to install Nvidia driver for Quadro FX.  I know how to stop the x server, but i get endless error messages like this: exception emask 0X10 Sact 0X0 Serr...  any ideas?
[02:42] <bazhang> !sound | ZombieGod
[02:42] <ubotu> ZombieGod: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:42] <Pelo> Cygnet, integrated intel are better supported then nvidia or ati period
[02:42] <crdlb> Cygnet: intel because they have open source drivers that you don't have to think about (they ship with ubuntu)
[02:42] <ZombieGod> ok ill give it a shot
[02:42] <UbuMoro> testing
[02:42] <bazhang> Cygnet: you will get much better frame rates with nvidia, but intel is better supported
[02:42] <Shadow147> Zombie god I use VLC
[02:42] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, does somebody know how to configure ID 0ac8:0323 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ??? it's a webcam, I got stuck
[02:43] <cleaton> Cygnet,  yes nvidia has better cards
[02:43] <Cygnet> the issue is, I can't play WoW with wine with integrated intel graphics
[02:43] <Bllz> How do I set VLC as my default media player?
[02:43] <bazhang> AutoMatriX: would you like a list of supported webcams?
[02:43] <Pelo> Cygnet, try asking in #winehq
[02:43] <Cygnet> ok, ty
[02:43] <cleaton> Cygnet, intel dosen't make any really good gaming graphicchips
[02:43] <winkman> Bllz: System Menu> Preferences > Preferred Apps?
[02:43] <bazhang> Cygnet: should do, if it is more recent though
[02:44] <AutoMatriX> bazhang, I think I saw that item in a list in the french translation of the gspca things ...
[02:44] <Bllz> winkman, I didn't see anything for VLC there... i'll look again
[02:44] <Bllz> is there a terminal command?
[02:44] <RomeReactor> Bllz: right-click on the media files you want, select Properties, and set vlc there.
[02:44] <bazhang> Bllz: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:44] <winkman> Click custom, and then i *think* put vlc into the command box
[02:44] <franky_the_pierr> Hi, I need to stop x server to install Nvidia driver for Quadro FX.  I know how to stop the x server, but i get endless error messages like this: exception emask 0X10 Sact 0X0 Serr...  any ideas?
[02:45] <Bllz> bazhang... i'm trying to set it as default. not install it.
[02:45] <Bllz> thx winkman
[02:45] <bazhang> Bllz: my mistake. apologies.
[02:45] <Bllz> haha no harm done!
[02:45] <bazhang> phew!
[02:45] <winkman> Bllz, give it a go, it might be something else like vlc-mediaplayer or something... check it out
[02:45] <RomeReactor> Bllz: if you want VLC as the default DVD player, go to "System->Preferences->Removable Drives And Media->Multimedia" and set it there.
[02:45] <Bllz> okay. cool thanks
[02:45] <nickrud> !default | Bllz
[02:45] <ubotu> Bllz: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:46] <AutoMatriX> !easycam
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <bazhang> !webcam | AutoMatriX
[02:46] <ubotu> AutoMatriX: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:47] <Ose> Is there an app that can find song titles/artists based on uh.. Anything but file name?
[02:47] <AutoMatriX> bazhang, tx
[02:47] <shamas> hi guys, when copying a folder into /user/share/icons I'm getting an error - cp: omitting directory `CB-Sources'
[02:48] <bazhang> np AutoMatriX
[02:48] <shamas> any idea why that's happening?
[02:48] <poeloq> hey - I am running xgl at the moment, but not compiz. Do I really need xgl? It eats so much ram
[02:48] <jack> shamas:maybe 'cp -r' works
[02:48] <Geekomancer1> Does anyyou run at?one know how you can troubleshoot just what resolution
[02:48] <franky_the_pierr> Hi, when i try stopping x server, i get an endless error message like: exception mask 0X10 Sact 0X0 Serr...  i need help with this please!  need to stop x server...
[02:48] <bazhang> easytag? Ose
[02:49] <Geekomancer1> Does anyone know how you can troubleshoot just what resolution you run at? (Rather..)
[02:49] <Bllz> poeloq:  go to #ubuntu-effects for that question
[02:49] <ebovine> I just installed 7.10 (fresh install) on a machine with an NVidia 8600M GT and nvidia-settings won't launch.  I get nothing on the command line and no logged messages.  Any ideas?
[02:49] <Ose> bazhang: I'll take a look. Thanks. Recovered all my files (Partitioned wrong drive..) and they're all number names now. Haha.
[02:49] <robdig> franky_the_pierr: i googled your error message, seems to be a disk problem of some sort...
[02:49] <ianm_> anyone know how to run an app as the desktop background?
[02:49] <bazhang> !info easytag
[02:49] <ubotu> easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (gutsy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[02:49] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, how are you stopping X ?
[02:50] <bazhang> although doing it through amarok or rhythmbox should work Ose
[02:50] <poeloq> Bllz: I'm _not_ using effects
[02:50] <franky_the_pierr> thx robdig, i did that too and got where you got...  except brand new drive and all works perfecto with it...  only get this when trying to stop xserver.  Iĺl keep googleing i guess!
[02:50] <shamas> jack, thanks it worked....
[02:50] <Ose> bazhang: Oh really? Didn't know they had that feature. I'm loading them into Amarok right now.. I'll try that first. It found a lot more songs than I remember having :\ still loading.
[02:50] <DraconPern> Is ubuntu LSB compliant?
[02:51] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud: i tried 2 ways: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   and sudo init 1  same resuly
[02:51] <nickrud> poeloq, there's really no reason to run xserver-xgl except for compiz as best I know
[02:51] <franky_the_pierr> result
[02:51] <ASTX813> Is it possible to 'transfer' a running process from one X server/session to another?  I did ssh -Y to another box and started an app, and I'd like to transfer it to my login that's running at the console now that I'm done with it (I don't wan't it to stop when I disconnect)
[02:51] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, and X doesn't stop ?
[02:51] <bazhang> Ose: I believe they query the freedb for the info; right click or in the menus should set you right--I had nearly the same thing happen
[02:51] <poeloq> nickrud: how do I revert back to a basic one then?
[02:52] <nickrud> poeloq, sudo aptitude remove xserver-xgl
[02:52] <bazhang> ASTX813: like screen?
[02:52] <nickrud> poeloq, or do it with synaptic
[02:52] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud, it sort of stops, but i dont get a terminal window, i get the endless loop of error messages.
[02:52] <tofaffy> I installed kubuntu-desktop and then unuinstalled everything, how com when I boot up when it says "ubuntu" and has the orange bar going across below it...it still says kubuntu and the bar is bluiE?
[02:52] <bazhang> tofaffy: you have to change the usplash as well iirc
[02:52] <ASTX813> bazhang, yeah, i guess like that.  But with a process running in an X session.
[02:53] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, do you see those errors cycling when you just ctl-alt-f1 while in X (clt-alt-f7 will get you back to X)
[02:53] <tofaffy> bazhang, how do I change the usplash and iirc?
[02:53] <bazhang> ASTX813: which app? if it's WoW, then likely not :}
[02:53] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud, lemme try that... 1 sec...
[02:54] <bazhang> tofaffy: sorry iirc=if I recall correctly and check out !usplash command for more info there
[02:54] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud:  yes, i get the same result with ctrl+alt+f1
[02:54] <tofaffy> !usplash
[02:54] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:54] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, so it's nothing to do with starting X, you definitely have some kind of hardware problem
[02:54] <ASTX813> bazhang, azureus
[02:54] <nickrud> *stopping X
[02:55] <bazhang> ASTX813: what about rtorrent? that is cli only and can do it for sure--azureus no idea
[02:55] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud: ok...  not sure what it could be, itś always running fine, except for this.
[02:56] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud: what does ctrl+alt+f1 does?
[02:56] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, what you did when you hit ctl-alt-f1 is you switched to the console, and errors that are high enough get echoed to the console so the operators see them immediately
[02:56] <ASTX813> bazhang, if I had thought ahead, maybe.  now i'm just trying to work with what I've got.
[02:56] <brophat> my 80 gig HD shows up as 74.6 gigs and my 120 gig HD shows up as 109.1 gigs. Does that seem kind of small?
[02:56] <bazhang> ASTX813: okay; not sure if it's possible, though perhaps is--I hit the roadblock of my knowledge there :}
[02:56] <nownot> ok my server is going slow ass balls and i did nothing. somebody have some test or something i can run to see what the problem is
[02:56] <franky_the_pierr> nickrud:ok, i understand.  iĺl replug my drives etc, and see how it goes... thanks for the help.
[02:57] <nickrud> franky_the_pierr, luck
[02:57] <ASTX813> bazhang, thanks, anyway.
[02:57] <bazhang> no worries
[02:57] <nownot> even to ssh in on my network its taking forever
[02:58] <Alyxander> hey does anyone know if go to meeting will work on ubuntu?
[02:58] <DraconPern> probably not.
[02:58] <Alyxander> figured as much
[02:58] <nownot> yes no?
[02:58] <bazhang> ASTX813: if you ever do get curious on using rtorrent, then go to kmandla.wordpress.com; that guy is a guru for stuff like that
[02:58] <brophat> my 80 gig HD shows up as 74.6 gigs and my 120 gig HD shows up as 109.1 gigs. Does that seem kind of small?
[02:59] <Nippoo> difference 'tween GiB and GB
[02:59] <nownot> running top my cpu is at .3%
[02:59] <RomeReactor> brophat: HDs don't always--if ever--have the advertised capacity.
[02:59] <nickrud> brophat, the 80 is x1000, the 74.6 is x1024
[02:59] <puff> I'm trying to get a broadcom mini-PCI wireless working on a dell latitude D830.
[02:59] <Flannel> RomeReactor: They used to, yes.
[02:59] <tinin> Has anyone the compiz cube?
[02:59] <brophat> nickrud so everything is ok?
[02:59] <Flannel> brophat: Yep
[03:00] <brophat> ok koo thanks
[03:00] <bazhang> tinin: too many yes :}
[03:01] <nickrud> never too many, gotta suck in those windowers with candy, then feed them meat later
[03:01] <crush_groove> laffs!
[03:01] <tinin> bazhang do you use default ubuntu compiz?
[03:01] <puff> There appear to be all sorts of hoops you have to jump through to get broadcom wireless working.  anybody familiar with this?
[03:01] <nownot> any ideas?
[03:01] <bazhang> tinin: no, but know how to get it going :}
[03:02] <smacnay> Hi, anyone run ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex GX240?  I have inherited 3 and wonder if it is worth the time and money buying power supplies and ram before installing ubuntu.
[03:02] <Geekomancer1> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with figuring out a screen resolution problem
[03:02] <smacnay> I think these are about 5 years old.
[03:03] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, if it's simple
[03:03] <bazhang> haha
[03:03] <bebin> why ubantu does not detect digital pen tablet  i have WP8060 iball pen tablet
[03:03] <bazhang> bebin: a driver issue, the manufacturer is to blame
[03:03] <crush_groove> smacnay,  this is a 8300 about 6 yrs old ..  runs better than it ever has with windows
[03:03] <tinin> bazhang I'm beeing unable, I've got latest compiz and I'd like to enable the cube, but it takes no effect from ccsm
[03:03] <Geekomancer1> Well, It's supposed to be set at 1280x800, and yet a 1024x768 window goes off the screen
[03:04] <bazhang> tinin: what do you get? just the two panels sliding?
[03:04] <`Wargasm> howcome ubuntu only lasts 1.75 hours when in windows XP i can last for 3+ hours???
[03:04] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, if you could put 3 things up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org : /etc/X11/xorg.conf , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and the output of  lspci | grep -i vga
[03:04] <JonathanD> `Wargasm: last?
[03:04] <smacnay> crush_groove: thanks - I run Debian on this Athlon 2800+ but think I will try ubuntu on these Dells.  I wonder whay vid card came in this Dell.
[03:04] <`Wargasm> battery life
[03:04] <bazhang> `Wargasm: lasts? my uptime has been 20 days :}
[03:05] <`Wargasm> battery life, guys
[03:05] <`Wargasm> laptop
[03:05] <bazhang> oh
[03:05] <jerbul> wargasm ubuntu runs some eye candy that xp does not. this can cut down on battery life.
[03:05] <meeks> I have been trying to get Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 to work on a ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 any ideas
[03:05] <nickrud> `Wargasm, feel lucky , I get less than 90 minutes
[03:05] <RomeReactor> tintin: run glxinfo | grep direct
[03:05] <`Wargasm> absolute crap battery life
[03:05] <crush_groove>  sheesh I dun remember smacnay .. I changed mine out about a 2 years ago
[03:05] <Bllz> Does a network have to have active clients connected to it in order to crack WEP with aircrack?
[03:05] <robdig> `Wargasm: i get about 2.5-3 hrs
[03:05] <crush_groove> what is it an 830?
[03:06] <Bllz> i'm assuming yes, since I have to collect IVs
[03:06] <bazhang> `Wargasm: you want help, or to editorialize?
[03:06] <nickrud> meeks, for the ubuntu provided one, run   restricted-manager , enable ati restricted. then   sudo modeprobe fglrx , log out and back in.  fglrxinfo to make sure you are using the ati driver , then sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl  compizconfig-settings-manager emerald , log back out and in
[03:06] <`Wargasm> id like some help
[03:06] <`Wargasm> id like somehelp, but ive already looked online
[03:07] <`Wargasm> none of the cpu stuff works
[03:07] <`Wargasm> i cant limit my cpu
[03:07] <RomeReactor> tintin: in CCSM disable "Desktop Wall" and enable "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube"; also increase the number of workspaces to four.
[03:07] <te_> hey everyone, i seem to have deleted the network manager applet in the upper right hand corner of my feisty install
[03:07] <meeks> thanks nickrud
[03:07] <te_> how do i get it back
[03:07] <te_> it doesnt show up under the add to panel
[03:07] <te_> dialog
[03:07] <crush_groove> smacnay,  site says they have ATI rage 128 standard
[03:08] <nickrud> te_ alt-f2  nm-applet
[03:08] <RomeReactor> te_: from the terminal: nm-applet --sm-disable
[03:09] <RomeReactor> s/terminal/alt+f2
[03:09] <nickrud> RomeReactor, any particular reason to disable session management?
[03:09] <meeks> nickrud according to my computer, the command modeprobe doesn't exist
[03:09] <shamas> Hi, I copied an icon theme into the usr/share/icons folder
[03:09] <nickrud> meeks, sorry, that should have been modprobe. Let me check for more typos
[03:09] <shamas> however there is no index.theme file in this icons theme
[03:09] <RomeReactor> nickrud: it's just thedefault setting
[03:09] <shamas> where and how can I get one?
[03:09] <nickrud> meeks, yeah, that was the only type
[03:10] <Geekomancer1> ... well... apparently, my Xorg.conf is empty.... but here's the other two....
[03:10] <Geekomancer1> http://mozilla.pastebin.com/d456ae7c5
[03:10] <winkman> Hi... how do i set my MSWindows Workgroup in Ubuntu (so my windows box can connect to my ubuntu one?)
[03:10] <meeks> nickrud...will be back in a sec
[03:10] <crush_groove> !wine
[03:10] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:11] <theLichKing> hi
[03:11] <zach382> hello all, I am running Ubuntu on a low resolution screen. Is there a setting that can be changed to allow windows to be moved beyond the upper border of the screen?
[03:11] <jerbul> winkman theres a great tutorial on youtube about setting up a network with samba
[03:11] <`Wargasm> i like wine
[03:11] <Fezzler> Update Manager is telling me a I have a half dozen Samba related file to update, but it doesn't install them.  Do I need to install updates in another manner?
[03:11] <theLichKing> eye of gnome doesn't open up the pictures on my desktop unless i start it up, close it, start it up, close it many times... what can be the issue?
[03:11] <crush_groove> whats the diff between samba and wine ?
[03:12] <winkman> crush_Groove: whoa!
[03:12] <winkman> !samba
[03:12] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:12] <winkman> !wine
[03:12] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:12] <Fezzler> I'm thinking Samba needs root or sudo?
[03:12] <Geekomancer1> erm... http://mozilla.pastebin.com/m56467523 that's my xorg... I missed a slash... <.<
[03:12] <jerbul> crush samba allows linux to communicate with ms machines over a network. wine emulates ms programs
[03:12] <crush_groove> winkman,  I understand they are both windows access procs from *nix .. I was looking for a more technical answer
[03:13] <crush_groove> ty jerbul
[03:14] <winkman> crush_groove: Wine is a program that allows users to run windows programs on linux, but samba manages networks between windows and linux
[03:14] <winkman> Does that help?
[03:14] <theLichKing> i double click the pictures on my desktop. it either shows in the taskbar then disappears or opens up but doesn't show any picture
[03:14] <crush_groove> ty winkman
[03:14] <theLichKing> how can i fix this?
[03:14] <Fezzler> is there a valid command sudo apt-get update samba?
[03:14] <jerbul> crush samba tends to deal with protocols and interpreting between the os's
[03:14] <crush_groove>  so samba is more integrative ..
[03:14] <jerbul> crush yea
[03:15] <crush_groove> nodz
[03:15] <winkman> crush_groove: Samba cannot run programs, it only transfers files (i believe)
[03:15] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, I have no idea where you got that xorg.conf from. That's definitely not an ubuntu generated one :)
[03:15] <Geekomancer1> uh....
[03:15] <Geekomancer1> okay...
[03:15] <te_> nm-applet: WARNING **: <WARN> nmi_save_network_info(): Error saving secret for wireless network 'Blah' in keyring: 6
[03:15] <te_> can anyone help me figure this out?
[03:15] <te_> wtf did i do?
[03:15] <te_> heh
[03:15] <Fezzler> crush:  Samba isn't too bad to learn.  It lets my iMac, PC, Ubuntu and Apple Computers share files and printers
[03:16] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, what I would do is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , make sure that was giving me my correct res first
[03:16] <ianm_> any ideas on putting an arbitrary app as the desktop background (always below everything, replacing desktop wallpaper)
[03:17] <zach382> IS there a way to move the windows beyond the top of the screen like you can do with the bottom?
[03:17] <wasabi> ianm, make said arbitrary app draw to the root window.
[03:17] <jerbul> ianm purpose?
[03:17] <hamadooo> im back
[03:17] <hamadooo> i just did wht i want .. and i can control my screen brightness now
[03:17] <hamadooo> i need another help plz
[03:17] <hamadooo> i use 2 languages in my ubuneu
[03:18] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, buh... it was at 1280x768.... O_o
[03:18] <meeks> nickrud, I have everything but xserver-xgl installed on my system should i just install xserver-xg?
[03:18] <hamadooo> i don't know how to swich between them by keyboard
[03:18] <hamadooo> can someone tell me plz
[03:18] <nickrud> meeks, yes I've switched back and forth just that way
[03:18] <hamadooo> in windows i used to use ctrl and alt
[03:18] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, first things first, get a simple xorg , build from it
[03:18] <Syco54645> why does the show desktop not work in compiz in gutsy, am i missing something here?
[03:18] <hamadooo> but i can't do that with ubuntu
[03:19] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, okay, how would I go about that?
[03:19] <nickrud> meeks, you made sure you have the accelerated driver running?
[03:19] <RomeReactor> zach382: try holding ALT and dragging the window
[03:19] <hamadooo> geekmancer
[03:19] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, with that   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[03:19] <meeks> I am 90% positive
[03:19] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, Oh, okay. Did that.
[03:19] <hamadooo> meeks help plz
[03:20] <hamadooo> someone help me
[03:20] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, ok, now log out and back in, so X will restart and use the new xorg.conf
[03:20] <phrac> zach382: If you're using gnome, it doesn't support a virtual desktop, however, it does support multiple desktops
[03:20] <Fezzler> Will Synaptic Package Manager perform Updates?
[03:20] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, okay, thanks, brb
[03:20] <theLichKing> Fezzler: by default yes
[03:20] <te_> how do i move the nm-applet icon??
[03:20] <zach382> IT doesnt work with the arrow keys.
[03:21] <te_> nevermind
[03:21] <te_> it worked
[03:21] <meeks> nickrud, doing final login and logout, thanks for the help brb
[03:21] <kazol> What is the best WYSIWYG web design + HTML code editor app?
[03:21] <Fezzler> Just seems odd that Update Manager informs me of Samba file updates but doesn't install them
[03:21] <trucMuche> kazol,  Quanta+ ?
[03:21] <trucMuche> NVU / Bluefish .... ?
[03:22] <zach382> I just want to know if there is a metacity setting to remove the restriction at the top of the screen. and only the top i can drag windows down below the screen
[03:22] <ianm_> wasabi: how do you make an app draw to the root window?
[03:22] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, okay. Back.
[03:22] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, what's your res?
[03:23] <kazol> trucMuche: thx
[03:23] <trucMuche> :)
[03:23] <Brennydoogles> Hello all
[03:23] <meeks> nickrud, the xserver was the step i was missing. thanks it works now!
[03:23] <firebird619> Could someone help me please? I installed PulseAudio on Gutsy following the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio, and now I do not have sound and when I open the PulseAudio Volume Control, it says Connection Failed: Connection Refused. What can I do to resolve this issue?
[03:23] <ianm_> jerbul: I want to run a subtle Luz music visualization as the background
[03:24] <hamadooo> yahooooooooooooooooooooo i did it
[03:24] <nickrud> meeks, yw
[03:24] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, 1440x900
[03:24] <hamadooo> thanx for myself no one helps me
[03:24] <John_Titor> omg earthquake
[03:24] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, is that what you want?
[03:24] <hamadooo> now i have no problems with ubuntu
[03:24] <jerbul> ianm whats the problem?
[03:24] <hamadooo> just i have to find more programs
[03:24] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, I think so :) Before I could only get up to 1280x800 :)
[03:25] <John_Titor> little earthquakes... every 5 minutes....
[03:25] <ianm_> jerbul: well I don't know how to make an app run as root window...
[03:25] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, if the res is good, now   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  , and look for the line  Driver "nv" , change that to nvidia and log out and back in
[03:25] <John_Titor> im gonna die T_T
[03:25] <Eyemean> hi i have  few video clips that a friend want to play on dvd player, anyone know wat i can use pls?
[03:25] <Eyemean> they not all mpeg
[03:25] <darklordveynom> is there a channel just for ndiswrapper?
[03:25] <jmg> hey all
[03:26] <jmg> how can i boot the livecd in single user mode?
[03:26] <mikebot> Can someone help me get a game working with Wine?
[03:26] <jmg> i tried adding a 1 to the end of the boot line but it didnt work
[03:26] <Brennydoogles> Anyone good with video editing and have a few minutes??
[03:26] <warriorf1rgod> mikebot: What game?
[03:26] <Schmick> Same thing here John_Titor...
[03:26] <mikebot> warriorf1rgod: Heroes of Might and Magic 3?
[03:26] <RomeReactor> zach382: try holding ALT and drag the window with the mouse
[03:26] <Schmick> shake shake shake..
[03:27] <itrebal> how can you find the gateway through the commandline?
[03:27] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, Okay, logging out, thanks brb
[03:27] <jerbul> mm3 is so old
[03:27] <kanuha> need help, installed gnome splash manager and it works, but the color of the screen comes up with the default brown/orange. How do I change colors?
[03:27] <zach382> RomeReactor: I am doing that but i can't get the title bar to move beyond the gnome panel i have at the top of the screen.
[03:27] <ericvw> I can't get a samba share to work in Gutsy so that a windows machien can view it
[03:28] <ericvw> it keeps prompting me for a password on the windows machine
[03:28] <Brennydoogles> Anyone who feels like helping with a video editing question, please join #help-brenny
[03:28] <jerbul> ericvw watch the tutorial on youtube about samba its really helpful
[03:28] <ericvw> jerbul: I did that, but windows is prompting for a password..of which it is not accepting anything
[03:29] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, okay, back. Things are definatly sharper. Smaller, but sharper :)
[03:29] <Eyemean> anyone used devede?
[03:29] <RomeReactor> zach382: you're right; hadn't noticed before...
[03:29] <nickrud> Geekomancer1, good, you should be able to enable compiz, system->prefs->appearance , last tab
[03:29] <meeks> okay, i just lost my borders around my windows in compiz fusion?
[03:29] <nickrud> meeks, alt-f2  emerald --replace
[03:30] <hamadooo> is there any program for ubuntu like kaza or ares in windows
[03:30] <nickrud> meeks, why it dies, I have no idea
[03:30] <crush_groove> !piracy
[03:30] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:30] <norty>  hi, im trying to setup a home network, the computer i am setting it up on is ubuntu 7.10 and the other computers are windows. I have setup samba such that other computers can see me on the workgroup 'ms home' but i dont know how to see them from my ubuntu machine, how do I do this?
[03:30] <sunogbaga> ericvw: paste your config
[03:30] <Geekomancer1> nickrud, yeah, got compiz going now
[03:31] <jerbul> ericvw if you followed the instructions in the video you setup a username and password on the linux machine. do you remember that?
[03:31] <hamadooo> norty if yu want to see them so you have to wear a glases
[03:31] <hamadooo> jokin
[03:31] <norty> :)
[03:31] <hamadooo> :P
[03:31] <ericvw> which video are you referrring to?
[03:31] <meeks> nickrud, alt + F2 not working
[03:31] <mikebot> warriorf1rgod: eh?
[03:31] <mikebot> Can someone help me get a game working with Wine?
[03:31] <hamadooo> meeks we need your help
[03:31] <jerbul> ericvw just a sec
[03:31] <hamadooo> could you help me plz
[03:31] <sunogbaga> norty: places->network
[03:31] <hamadooo> you look a good guy
[03:32] <nickrud> meeks, open a terminal, and   try emerald --replace &    <--- don't forget the &
[03:32] <corruptionoflulz> mikebot: try the channel #winehq
[03:32] <norty> ah ha ha thanks sunogbaga
[03:32] <hamadooo> sunogbaga help me
[03:32] <mikebot> corruptionoflulz: Thanks.
[03:32] <zach382> RomeReactor: so you don't know of any fix for it. By the way hit alt+f9 and use the arrow keys for some reason that works.
[03:32] <hamadooo> i want a program just like kaza in windows or ares
[03:32] <RomeReactor> zach382: open CCSM, go to "Window Management->Move Window" and uncheck "constrain y"
[03:32] <norty> sunogbaga,  im getting this when i try to access a computer i see : Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: phillip".
[03:32] <meeks> nickrud, that worked. thanks
[03:32] <jerbul> ericvw http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ad17kma8rNM  it uses 6.1 but ull get the idea
[03:33] <Eagleray> hamadooo: stop harassing people, just ask your question of the whole channel and then wait patiently for someone to reply.
[03:33] <Eagleray> !piracy|hamadooo
[03:33] <nickrud> meeks, ok, so you can close that terminal:   disown <tab> <enter>  (<tab> should show %emerald)
[03:33] <ubotu> hamadooo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:33] <hamadooo> eagleray i asked 3 times and no one talk to me
[03:33] <hamadooo> ok
[03:33] <hamadooo> i understand know
[03:33] <hamadooo> now
[03:33] <soldats> hamadooo, dont fret
[03:34] <hamadooo> what fret
[03:34] <sunogbaga> norty: does phillip have shared folders?
[03:34] <Brennydoogles> I am looking for help with video editing
[03:34] <jerbul> 11th
[03:34] <soldats> you can use wine to run winblows programs
[03:34] <corruptionoflulz> Eagleray: kazaa is not used strictly for piracy, it's a piece of software, just like torrents aren't just for piracy
[03:34] <Eagleray> hamadooo: fret = worry, be concerned etc
[03:34] <hamadooo> corruptionoflulz  that's right
[03:34] <soldats> lol
[03:34] <hamadooo> ok
[03:34] <soldats> hamadooo, #winehq
[03:34] <soldats> go to it
[03:35] <hamadooo> ok
[03:35] <hamadooo> for what his channel
[03:35] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: true, but only up to a point. Telol me the last time you saw kazaa used for anything legal, as opposed to torrents which have tons of opensource tracklers
[03:35] <kanuha> need help, installed gnome splash manager and it works, but the color of the screen comes up with the default brown/orange. How do I change colors?
[03:35] <Eagleray> hamadooo: what do you actually want to do with ares/kazaa etc?
[03:35] <hamadooo> downloading music and programs
[03:35] <Brennydoogles> Need help with video editing, if interested please join #help-brenny
[03:35] <hamadooo> fun clubs
[03:35] <corruptionoflulz> Eagleray: it's still just a piece of software, no point in discriminating against it, also, what if he felt like dl'ing songs he already owns just because it's easier?, anyways, let's just leave it at that since this isn't ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <hamadooo> clips
[03:36] <soldats> hamadooo, its not very useful for linux programs
[03:36] <Hammy_> Hey im trying to get my sources list. i am trying to edit it to install beryl, currently when i enter the [sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list] command it doesnt let me edit it...does anyone know what im doing wronge?
[03:36] <hamadooo> what's that soldats
[03:36] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: fair point, although I thought that was also illegal...
[03:36] <sunogbaga> kanuha: system->administration->login window?
[03:37] <teddy233> i'm back
[03:37] <soldats> hamadooo, what iu mean is that you can run kazaa in wine on ubuntu or any other win program
[03:37] <hamadooo> i though ubuntu is a free source and you telling me now i can't use some programs .... in windows i can use them
[03:37] <Brennydoogles> Hammy_: replace vi with gedit if you are on normal ubuntu
[03:37] <nickrud> Hammy_, try using nano instead of vi
[03:37] <Hammy_> can anyone help me with my problem?
[03:37] <jerbul> hahahaha
[03:37] <techqbert> is there any linux app for downloading .flv files to disk?  I need one that can download .flv and the stream from nbc10.com
[03:37] <Hammy_> okay thanks...wait which to use gedit or nano?
[03:37] <mikebot> How can I extract from a DVD just an avi that is like 600 MB?
[03:37] <MasterShrek> Hammy_: are you using 7.10?
[03:37] <hamadooo> soldats is there any similar program in ubuntu like kaza
[03:37] <nickrud> Brennydoogles, if you recommend gedit for editing system files (perfectly ok) be sure to mention they should use gksudo
[03:37] <Hammy_> yea
[03:38] <MasterShrek> mikebot: use dvdrip
[03:38] <ademan> anyone know what the "best" way to reliably transfer files between a windows and linux machine would be?  i'd love to use rsync but I can't find a source for a win32 rsync that i trust, although i could give a couple a try i suppose
[03:38] <Brennydoogles> nickrud:  That is true, thanks
[03:38] <soldats> hamadooo, i dont believe so
[03:38] <corruptionoflulz> Eagleray: check PM
[03:38] <Hammy_> hamadooo: i heard you can run Limewire on Linux
[03:38] <MasterShrek> Hammy_: beryl is old now, its compiz fusion now and it is installed by default
[03:38] <teddy233> anyone know how to setup dhcp3 to give out range of ips based on where the request came from?
[03:38] <kanuha> sunogbaga, tried it, doesn't seem to effect the gnome splash background
[03:38] <jerbul> hamadooo u can download limewire, frostwire, gtk gnutella. all will work in linux.
[03:38] <hamadooo> reading all the time that linux and ubuntu is a open source .... and now you telling me that i can't download a program cuz it's illegal
[03:38] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: are you a registered user? I haven't received any PMs from you...
[03:38] <Hammy_> kanuha: i know...does it matter?
[03:38] <corruptionoflulz> ademan: on a home network? i use samba
[03:38] <nickrud> hamadooo, open source <> illegal
[03:38] <mikebot> I can't do it with k9copy or k3b?
[03:38] <zach382> RomeReactor: thanks that worked.
[03:39] <MasterShrek> mikebot: i dont think so
[03:39] <ademan> corruptionoflulz: normally I would, but samba has corrupted files before for me, so i don't trust it much :-/
[03:39] <robdig> !equivalents | hamadooo
[03:39] <ubotu> hamadooo: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:39] <corruptionoflulz> Eagleray: yeah, i am a registered user
[03:39] <hamadooo> jerbul  .. with these programs can i do what i do with kazza and ares
[03:39] <mikebot> MasterShrek: OK, thanks.
[03:39] <corruptionoflulz> ademan: then i suppose the easiest and safest would probably be FTP
[03:39] <mikebot> MasterShrek: DVDrip?
[03:39] <MasterShrek> mikebot: yes, i dont know if its in the repos or not
[03:39] <MasterShrek> !info dvdrip
[03:39] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.6-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1086 kB, installed size 2580 kB
[03:39] <Brennydoogles> if anyone would like to help me with a video editing issue, please join #help-brenny
[03:39] <jerbul> hamadooo yes, they use the same network as kazaa they just have different interfaces
[03:40] <kanuha> Hammy_, well I want the background color during the gnome splash screen to be black, right now it is the default brown/orange
[03:40] <MasterShrek> yep, in multiverse mikebot you need to enable extra repositories, system > admin > software sources
[03:40] <Hammy_> Brennydoogles:Thanks, it worked
[03:40] <sunogbaga> hamadooo: if you consider java based apps.. azureus for torrents
[03:40] <hamadooo> jerbul ok where can i find them
[03:40] <Brennydoogles> np Hammy_
[03:40] <nickrud> hamadooo, in fact, free software advocates are usually the last to use pirated software, they want the free licenses to be respected as well
[03:40] <Hammy_> nickrud:Thanks also nick
[03:40] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: looks like PMs aren't working for whatever reason, join #pmcoreag
[03:40] <brophat> Is there a way to control the size of windows and fonts without turning up the resolution?
[03:40] <MasterShrek> Eagleray: both users need to be registered to pm on freenode
[03:40] <hamadooo> nickrud but if windows users can use them why we can't
[03:41] <Vad2> How can I kill a process called "gdb"? It's been hogging  my laptop for the last half hour, and I cant get rid of it. Each time I try to use "kill" on it, it changes it's ID. It is extermely aggravating.
[03:41] <hamadooo> sunogbaga  i didn't mean torrent clients .. thanx
[03:41] <Eagleray> MasterShrek: we are both registered
[03:41] <godzirra> Sigh...  New freaking kernel just put out just broke my sound again.  Anyone have a snd-hda-intel howto?
[03:41] <nickrud> hamadooo, you're missing the point: there's frostwire and gtk-gnutella which use the same network as kazaa , it's up to you to respect licenses
[03:41] <jerbul> gdb is a source level debugger
[03:42] <nickrud> !hdaintel | godzirra
[03:42] <ubotu> godzirra: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:42] <Vad2> Yes, and.. how can stop it? It's killing my harddrive.
[03:42] <hamadooo> ok
[03:42] <hamadooo> thanx nickrud
[03:42] <mikebot> MasterShrek: DO you know how to use this?
[03:42] <MasterShrek> mikebot: a little bit
[03:42] <godzirra> thanks.
[03:42] <hamadooo> have another question now ........ do i need an antivirus for ubuntu
[03:42] <godzirra> I raelly wish every new kernel didn't break it.
[03:43] <MasterShrek> hamadooo: no
[03:43] <mikebot> MasterShrek: hehe, so how do I do it?
[03:43] <MasterShrek> !virus
[03:43] <soldats> godzirra, lol i liek your name
[03:43] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:43] <hamadooo> and if yes what is the best one
[03:43] <godzirra> soldats: thanks ;)
[03:43] <[digit]> how can i stop gnome from switching virtual desktops with the trackpad on my laptop?
[03:43] <[digit]> its too sensitive
[03:43] <MasterShrek> mikebot: your best bet is to just mess around with it, thats how i learn things
[03:43] <godzirra> [digit]: install gsynaptic and turn off horizontol scrolling.
[03:43] <hamadooo> thanx
[03:43] <[digit]> will that disable for web browsing though?
[03:43] <Vad2> Can anyone help?
[03:43] <hdevalence> hey how would I get past the great firewall of china?
[03:43] <godzirra> Horizontal scrolling for web?
[03:43] <[digit]> ya
[03:43] <godzirra> horizontal... as in left to right...
[03:44] <godzirra> you scroll web pages from left to right?
[03:44] <[digit]> horizontal scrolling is off
[03:44] <godzirra> oh.  no idea then.
[03:44] <theLichKing> http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com/
[03:44] <hdevalence> I'm in canada, but I need someone in china to see this page http://trenteee.blogspot.com/2007/12/howto-install-ubuntu-on-eee-pc-with_10.html
[03:45] <Vad2> hdevalence: saave it, nad emial them the page?
[03:45] <Hammy_> why dont you just use babelfish to translate it?
[03:45] <ericvw> jerbul: The windows machine is prompting for a username and password for some reason
[03:45] <Vad2> *save it, and email
[03:45] <theLichKing> 1
[03:45] <jerbul> ericvw its supposed to
[03:45] <ericvw> jerbul: In the video it didn't prompt for one
[03:45] <jerbul> ericvw you were supposed to set one up during the samba setup
[03:45] <MasterShrek> ericvw: using samba? on the ubuntu machine do: sudo smbpasswd -a <user>      and create a samba password, then try from the window's machine
[03:46] <ericvw> MasterShrek: what goes in for <user> the ubuntu username or some arbitrary?
[03:46] <theLichKing> Pici
[03:46] <jerbul> any name
[03:46] <jerbul> any name at all
[03:46] <MasterShrek> ericvw: whatever username you are using on the ubuntu machine, i think it may have to be a current user
[03:46] <theLichKing> can anyone access this page? http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com/
[03:46] <MasterShrek> theLichKing: yes
[03:47] <theLichKing> anyone else?
[03:47] <ericvw> jerbul, MasterShrek: Thanks!  It works...why does it need the user and password though?
[03:47] <nickrud> theLichKing, you are your name :)
[03:48] <theLichKing> nickrud: i try
[03:48] <nickrud> the undying page
[03:48] <MasterShrek> ericvw: security reasons i suppose, you could turn it off, but im kinda lazy to go through explaining it lol
[03:48] <hdevalence> Vad2: I don't have their email
[03:48] <Brennydoogles> If anyone would like to help with a video editing issue, please join #help-brenny
[03:49] <hdevalence> Vad2: and they don't speak english very well
[03:49] <Hammy_> hi i have a question...how on earth do i get all that eye candy??? i havnet used Ubuntu or any other Linux Distro in the past liek 6 months...
[03:50] <sadaiyappan> Hi hammy
[03:50] <sadaiyappan> Just google it.
[03:50] <sadaiyappan> Well what video card are you using?
[03:50] <sadaiyappan> just google ATI ubuntu 7.10
[03:51] <theLichKing> yeah, jfgi
[03:51] <Hammy_> sadaiyappan:Nvidia Geforce 6150 SE
[03:51] <soldats> !jfgi
[03:51] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[03:51] <bazhang> !rtfm | theLichKing
[03:51] <ubotu> theLichKing: please see above
[03:51] <sadaiyappan> just google "nvidia ubuntu drivers"
[03:51] <fwaokda> im wanting to create a ubuntu flash drive for running anti virus software and other useful pc repair tools on can someone show me to a tutorial on this?
[03:51] <hamadooo> is there a diffrent when using the plug and play screen and my laptop screen
[03:51] <nickrud> !compiz | Hammy_
[03:52] <ubotu> Hammy_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:52] <bazhang> !ccsm | Hammy_
[03:52] <ubotu> Hammy_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:52] <ZeeO> hey guys I installed flash with apt-get and its still not working in firefox
[03:52] <godzirra> nickrud: that actually doesn't work with the newest kernel.
[03:52] <sadaiyappan> you have to close firefox and reopen it
[03:52] <cpetzel> hey guys I been using Ubuntu for some time is there a way to sync my axim x51v ?
[03:53] <densone_home> ZeeO, the flash player?
[03:53] <ZeeO> well I havce done that
[03:53] <havoc_> I set the path to directory and I got this message when I tryed to install with wine wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Installer.exe": Module not found
[03:53] <ZeeO> flash-nonfree
[03:53] <ZeeO> or what ever
[03:53] <nickrud> godzirra, that sucks. I don't use nvidia, maybe you could fix the page?
[03:53] <sadaiyappan> Close firefox and restart it
[03:53] <ZeeO> I have rebooted the os
[03:53] <godzirra> What does nvidia have to do with snd-hda-intel?
[03:53] <nickrud> godzirra, sorry, context.
[03:53] <godzirra> sorry.
[03:53] <godzirra> the hda intel page thats up doesn't work.
[03:53] <bazhang> ZeeO: there are some flash issues right now; they should be sorted shortly
[03:53] <ZeeO> is thare a workaround
[03:54] <havoc_> so what do I do?
[03:54] <nickrud> godzirra, does lspci | grep -i hda give you an output?
[03:54] <ZeeO> im just trying to play online radio
[03:54] <bazhang> ZeeO: yes, but then you will need to undo it once it is fixed
[03:54] <ScorpFromHell> anybody tried DHCP/TFTP/preseeding apprach to mass install Ubuntu/Edubuntu, how does it compare to doing a disk image copying using tools like Norton Ghost or PartImage?
[03:54] <ownlinux> so long
[03:54] <ZeeO> well im fine with that link me to a workaround
[03:55] <godzirra> nope.
[03:55] <ZeeO> I have been fighting with flash for 2 days now
[03:55] <godzirra> one sec, i'm rbuiliding
[03:55] <godzirra> rebuilding
[03:55] <ZeeO> its kind of driving me nuts
[03:55] <nickrud> godzirra, ok, when you're ready:  lspci , read through that, tell me what chip it says you're using
[03:56] <ZeeO> !flash
[03:56] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:56] <godzirra> nickrud:  snd-hda-intel, the model previously is 3stack.. nto sure if thath elps.
[03:56] <godzirra> oh, and its the card with the codec that gutsy hates.
[03:56] <nickrud> godzirra, yes, it does. One sec
[03:56] <cpetzel> is there any way to make a pocket pc sync in Ubuntu
[03:56] <godzirra> I cant remember the one, let me see if I can find the page.
[03:56] <orionr> hey guys i need some help
[03:57] <orionr> i have a webserver and i want my users to beable to host stuff on my apache server located at /var/www
[03:57] <densone_home> ok
[03:57] <orionr> i want to because to create a  folder link in their home folder to /var/www/There username
[03:58] <orionr> how do i ccreate that link?
[03:58] <nickrud> godzirra, did you do the editing in /etc/modprobe.d , where you set an option to define the hda as a 3stack?
[03:58] <godzirra> nickrud: /proc/asound/cards has my card listed.
[03:58] <godzirra> alsa-base
[03:58] <ZeeO> !Gnash
[03:58] <godzirra> options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[03:58] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[03:58] <OldSpice> i need help setting up my partitions. i have 160gb and im going to use 15gb for ubuntu/ 15gb for windows, and the rest for documents. how would i partition this?
[03:58] <nickrud> godzirra, remove that edit
[03:58] <MasterShrek> orionr: sudo ln -s /home/<user>/folder /var/www/<user>
[03:58] <godzirra> ok.
[03:58] <nickrud> godzirra, I had that for a while, now I don't
[03:59] <godzirra> it was put there last time I installed
[03:59] <godzirra> installed alsa I maen.
[03:59] <godzirra> nickrud: just finished compiling.  give me a second to rebot.
[03:59] <godzirra> reboot.
[04:00] <nickrud> godzirra, one point: I haven't rebuilt alsa since about .9b or so, so anything not standard ....
[04:02] <alnokta> Anyone knows how to make Ubuntu recognize my DVD drive ? (actually it is recognized [i used it to install] but Brasero cannot burn either a CD or a DVD)
[04:02] <godzirra> nickrud: weird.  I just recompiled this time and rebooted and it worked. ;)
[04:02] <Ose> In Dolphin I keep getting "Unable to save bookmarks... Permission denied" Says most likely cause is a full HD but I have plenty of free space.
[04:02] <nickrud> OldSpice, partition 1 windows, partition 2 swap (about 2xram , up to 2gb) partition3 "  /  " an extended, then the rest /home
[04:02] <godzirra> well.. thanks?  lol
[04:02] <cpetzel> please help me
[04:02] <nickrud> godzirra, :)
[04:04] <nickrud> alnokta, try a different app first, like gnomebaker or k3b
[04:04] <Ose> In Dolphin I keep getting "Unable to save bookmarks... Permission denied" Says most likely cause is a full HD but I have plenty of free space.
[04:04] <nickrud> Ose, #kubuntu probably knows more about dolphin
[04:05] <Ose> Didn't know it was a channel, thanks.
[04:05] <Neskaya>  /gt 22
[04:05] <Neskaya> BAH
[04:06] <alnokta> nickrud, okay, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:06] <cpetzel> please will someone help me I have been looking online for something and could not find anything useful
[04:06] <soldats> !ask
[04:06] <nickrud> alnokta, never used brasero , I always go to an app I know Works for Me™ :)
[04:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:07] <cpetzel> how can I get my pocket pc to work sync with Ubuntu
[04:08] <nickrud> cpetzel, you can try  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[04:09] <alnokta> nickrud, Well, I never burned a DVD or CD under Ubuntu and I'm trying to change that :).
[04:09] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: that's so much cooler!
[04:10] <nickrud> alnokta, I've used both of those, at least if your dvd is working one of them should. But again sometimes its all about Works for Me™
[04:10] <NeT_DeMoN> question, any one know why the backlight on my monitor keeps going out??
[04:10] <danc3> ummm, the monitor is defective?
[04:10] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: huh
[04:10] <danc3> huh?
[04:10] <danc3> huh what?
[04:10] <ScorpFromHell> nickrud, me too having problems like alnokta
[04:10] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: whats so much cooler?
[04:11] <ScorpFromHell> am unable to burn DVDs, CDs are fine
[04:11] <danc3> the 1337 way you spelled your name now
[04:11] <alnokta> nickrud, How do you type these small letters?
[04:11] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: that's really cool
[04:11] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: ok
[04:11] <todd__> How do you link to a smb location (like smb://thad/BUFFALO) to a local location so my apps see it under /?
[04:11]  * NeT_DeMoN shrugs
[04:11] <Xbehave> is it possible to restart alsa without rebooting?
[04:11] <MasterShrek> !smbfs
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <nickrud> alnokta, I have that as a text replace, I cut and pasted from apps->accessories->character map
[04:11] <bazhang> ease up danc3
[04:11] <MasterShrek> !info smbfs | todd__
[04:11] <ubotu> todd__: smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 473 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[04:12] <NeT_DeMoN> but the backlight on my monitor keeps going out, anybody know how to fix it??
[04:12] <ZeeO> so guys I tried flash 9 from adobes website I tried Gnash and the nonefree from the repos none will let firefox work with flash
[04:12] <soldats> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:12] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: replace the monitor
[04:12] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: yeah, its a laptop
[04:12] <ZeeO> can some one point me to the right place to be able to find a workaroudn for this issue
[04:12] <bazhang> danc3: please stop
[04:12] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: see above
[04:12] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: thats not going to be easy
[04:13] <danc3> bazhang: what?
[04:13] <alnokta> nickrud, Ah, Thanks.
[04:13] <todd__> OK... how do I link smb://thad/BUFFALO to /media/buffalo ???
[04:13] <Dingda> Anyone know of an editor that'll recognize mIRC's INI-files?  They're _not_ pure plaintext (each line has to begin with a "n=linenumber" string), so editing them with a normal editor is very, very tedious.
[04:13] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: no, not easy, but possible
[04:13] <NeT_DeMoN> danc3: i can get it to come back on by sending my computer into the "hibernate" mode
[04:13] <bazhang> NeT_DeMoN: just ignore him
[04:13] <danc3> NeT_DeMoN: you might try removing the panel, and reseating the connectors, probably loosened where they pass through the "hinges"
[04:13] <NeT_DeMoN> bazhang: alright
[04:13] <ZombieGod> hahaha vlc works.. I cant get anything else to work to play sound.. silly laptop lol
[04:13] <danc3> bazhang: what are you talking about?
[04:14] <danc3> bazhang: do you have a problem, or what/
[04:14] <warriorf1rgod> Dingda: are you trying to remove the n=linenumber?
[04:14] <Pici> danc3: He means stop pesting NeT_DeMoN about his name spelling
[04:14] <tumbleweed__> I like chicken,
[04:14] <ZombieGod> ok thats all I really wanted lol.. thanx laterz
[04:14] <bazhang> offtopic tumbleweed__
[04:14] <Pici> tumbleweed__: Thas nice, but this is a support channel, random chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <danc3> Pici: I'm not, if you'd pay attention, you'd see I'm helping him
[04:14] <tumbleweed__> don't be a topic nazi.
[04:14] <Eyemean> hi, can any1 tell me best vcd software pls?
[04:14] <Hammy> Oh My god...i need help badly!!!
[04:15] <bazhang> Eyemean: you want to remaster vcds or watch them?
[04:15] <Dingda> warriorf1rgod: Alas, no, I'm trying to edit the file with an app that won't screw up the formatting :/
[04:15] <Eyemean> create vcd from video file mpeg1 some mpeg2
[04:15] <bazhang> Eyemean: why not dvds?
[04:16] <Hammy> i just restarted ubuntu for the first time in about 5 months, and when i restarted ubuntu to load Windows Vista...Vista wasn't on the Boot list P.S im dualbooting Vista and Ubuuntu 7.10
[04:16] <tumbleweed__> I found that to be fairly racist, Pici
[04:16] <Hammy> i need to get my Vista back what on earth happened?
[04:16] <NeT_DeMoN> but can anyone help with my monitor, like is there a command i can completely take off the power saving mode?
[04:16] <Pici> tumbleweed__: Excuse me?
[04:16] <Eyemean> bazhang, because i only got about 1.3 Gigs worth, not worth wasting Dvd for that, they only music video clips for a friend
[04:16] <nickrud> Hammy, I'll post a stanza you need to add to /boot/grub/menu.lst  .  What partition is your vista on?
[04:16] <tumbleweed__> Pici : did you kick me because I was black?
[04:16] <Hammy> what do you mean?
[04:16] <danc3> lol
[04:17] <NeT_DeMoN> tumbleweed__: i wouldn't say things like that to him
[04:17] <nickrud> Hammy put the output of  sudo fdisk -l on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:17] <Pici> tumbleweed__: Thats enough.
[04:17] <bazhang> Eyemean: to play in their vcd player, or on their computer?
[04:17] <tumbleweed__> I have a dream.
[04:17] <Eyemean> bazhanf, into dvd player
[04:17] <Hammy> well Vista was installed first it come with my desktop...i partitioned a part of my primary disk so i can dual boot Ubuntu
[04:17] <nickrud> Hammy, probably the first partition, but go ahead and put up that fdisk thing to be sure
[04:18] <Eyemean> bazhang, into dvd player
[04:18] <daedric> how can i reconfigure the network just like during the instalation ?
[04:18] <daedric> dpkg-reconfigure * ?
[04:18] <NeT_DeMoN> tumbleweed__: you really shouldn't be in here talking about nothing
[04:18] <Hammy> how do i do that...my heart is pounding...all of my work and stuff is on that!
[04:18] <bazhang> Eyemean: vlc can do that apparently
[04:18] <tumbleweed__> don't be racist
[04:18] <soldats> noone was
[04:18] <Eyemean> bazhang, really
[04:18] <bazhang> tumbleweed__: please stop
[04:18] <NeT_DeMoN> tumbleweed__: specially talking back to the admin :|
[04:19] <aehgts> hammy: boot ubuntu again and see if you can mount the vista partition from there
[04:19] <tumbleweed__> quiet you, kittens are fluffy, no citation needed
[04:19] <warriorf1rgod> Can I get one of the admins to kick my stale nick?  it is warriorforgod.
[04:19] <aehgts> hammy: if that works then we can see about fixing the booting issue
[04:19] <nickrud> Hammy, if vista has been booting all this time, it's a real simple fix, relax.    type    sudo fdisk -l   in a terminal , then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and copy and paste it there. Then tell me the link.
[04:19] <bazhang> daedric: the x server? or the internet connection or what?
[04:19] <NeT_DeMoN> am i able to boot people in here or do i need admin privaliges??
[04:20] <Pici> NeT_DeMoN: Don't you think it would be a little crazy in here if everyone was able to kick?
[04:20] <bazhang> NeT_DeMoN: thankfully you are not
[04:20] <Hammy> nickrud:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48975/
[04:20] <freakin_n00b> go for it NeT_DeMoN i'd like to see you try
[04:20]  * nickrud thinks it would be cool, a kick contest
[04:20] <NeT_DeMoN> Pici: yeah, but i was just wondering
[04:20] <freakin_n00b> LOL
[04:20] <NeT_DeMoN> nickrud: lol
[04:21] <ZeeO> hey guys so with Gnash I can go to youtube not sites like seekpod.com will not work it still asks for flash 9 is thare some way i can get flash 9 to work with firefox without wine im reading on google seems not a lot of users have it working thare must be some one in here with a workaround
[04:21] <NeT_DeMoN> Pici, bazhang: but why do they give us a "kick" option then?
[04:21] <Hammy> nickruf: any ideas?
[04:21] <daedric> bazhang, just the eth0 ?
[04:21] <bazhang> offtopic NeT_DeMoN
[04:21] <hanasakiRemote> any program that does DoD disk wiping in linux?
[04:21] <NeT_DeMoN> i should go to off-topic for these questions shouldn't i?
[04:21] <daedric> i could edit the networkig files....
[04:21] <bazhang> yup
[04:21] <NeT_DeMoN> bazhang: thought so
[04:21] <Pici> NeT_DeMoN: Exactly ;)
[04:21] <danc3> bazhang: are you a channel-cop?
[04:21] <daedric> but i can't remember the sintax...
[04:22] <soldats> ZeeO, did you install from the adobe page and restart firefox
[04:22] <freakin_n00b> it's [slash]kick
[04:22] <bazhang> assistant to the regional manager
[04:22] <ZeeO> yes soldats
[04:22] <ZeeO> when I go about:plugins its not showing
[04:22] <danc3> yeah that's what I thought
[04:22] <NeT_DeMoN> sorry about flooding the room with my non-ubuntu related questions
[04:22] <Hammy> nickrud: any idea's dude?
[04:22] <soldats> ZeeO, if so it means it wasnt instaled correctly and FF isnt picking up the install
[04:22] <freakin_n00b> have you tried Opera?
[04:22] <mikebot> Has anyone here used dvdrip?
[04:23] <soldats> opera need flash installed as well
[04:23] <freakin_n00b> yes i know
[04:23] <freakin_n00b> but it might work better
[04:23] <ZeeO> soldats what's the fix
[04:23] <soldats> yes i know i love it
[04:23] <bazhang> daedric: this is for ethernet? eth0 correct?
[04:23] <daedric> bazhang, correct.
[04:23] <ZeeO> how do I remove it and reinstall
[04:23] <soldats> ZeeO, what happened when you installed it, did it say to restatrt FF and try again after you installed i
[04:23] <soldats> it
[04:24] <nickrud> Hammy,    before I give you the paste reboot , and when you see something about loading grub , hit the escape key. You might very well see windows
[04:24] <bazhang> daedric: and it won't connect anymore?  strange
[04:24] <ZeeO> 1 sec I will reinstall right now
[04:24] <alnokta> nickrud, Thanks, I can burn CDs with gnomebaker.
[04:24] <mikebot> Has anyone here used dvdrip?
[04:24] <Hammy> nickrud: my 1st partiton
[04:24] <daedric> bazhang, no... you're getting me wrong. i have a connectio... given by a dhcpd... but i want static. i could edit some files and fix it.. but if there was a easier way... i would apreciate.
[04:25] <nickrud> Hammy, if you only see ubuntu listed there, add http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48976/  to the very end of /boot/grub/menu.lst  (  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst will let you edit it)
[04:25] <larson9999> how long before flash quits locking up?
[04:25] <bazhang> daedric: you know the static ip I presume? can you do it via network-manager?
[04:27] <Hammy> nickrud: and yes i only see ubuntu when im at the grub loader screen
[04:27] <snowdonkey> Hi.  What command can I use to see the make and model of my motherboard and video card?
[04:27] <nickrud> Hammy, then add that stanza I gave to the very end of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:27] <Xbehave> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[04:28] <nickrud> Xbehave, alsa-utils
[04:28] <Hammy> nickrud: can i use gedit instead of nano...its just easier for me to use?
[04:28] <nickrud> Hammy, sure gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  . You'll have to run that from a terminal to get permission to save it.
[04:28] <Hammy> nickrud: do i add the numbers to or only the words and suff
[04:29] <nickrud> Hammy, just copy and paste the whole thing
[04:29] <Eyemean> bazhang, u do realise im looking to make vcd not play it?
[04:29] <bazhang> Eyemean: indeed
[04:29] <nickrud> Hammy, oh, the numbers won't get highlighted :)
[04:29] <Eyemean> bazhang , but how can vlc do that
[04:29] <pfein> is there a way to change the keybinding for kill-the-x-server from ctrl-alt-backspace to something a little harder to type accidentally?
[04:30] <Hammy> nickrud: :-O but when i copied it it highlighted it?
[04:30] <nickrud> Hammy, not the line numbers, right? If they did, copy and paste from the box below
[04:30] <bazhang> Eyemean: you want me to walk you through it? or can you try and figure it out for yourself?
[04:30] <kitofhawaii> anyone know if there's a specific channel for asking people general questions/advice about the CoC?
[04:30] <Eyemean> bazhang, no worries apparently a software called devede can do it, cheers though
[04:30] <Hammy> nickrud: yea i was talking about the line numbers well now i get it.
[04:30] <soldats> corrosion of conformity
[04:31] <bazhang> someone bugging you kitofhawaii?
[04:31] <kitofhawaii> soldats: grr
[04:31] <bigal> do you know the code to the gears
[04:31] <Xbehave> thx erm i changed my  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base but its having no effect
[04:31] <Hammy> nickrud: okay i clicked save from the gedit window...now what?
[04:31] <chipbuddy> !xorg.conf
[04:31] <OldSpice> is 5gb for install ubuntu enough? including swap.
[04:31] <ogre> whats the difference between the ubuntu cd installer and dvd installer? are there more packages ir something?
[04:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <bazhang> bigal what is that?
[04:32] <havoc_1> hey whats the code for the gears
[04:32] <nickrud> Hammy just for fun,   gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste that on the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , let me check it
[04:32] <bigal> the one that show the speed of the computer
[04:32] <kitofhawaii> bazhang: no just needing some advice about things that i didn't want to burden the loco mentors with all the time (dealing with a difficult situation currently)
[04:32] <bazhang> OldSpice: that will be tight fit, but possible
[04:32] <Hammy> oldspice: it is enough but you should add about 8GB not 5
[04:32] <bazhang> kitofhawaii: want to join offtopic?
[04:32] <OldSpice> hammy: oh alright, thank you.
[04:32] <jrib> ogre: same thing except dvd contains all of the main and restricted repos on it, so you can use the dvd as a repo instead of going online
[04:33] <soldats> kitofhawaii, what is CoC
[04:33] <Pici> !coc | soldats
[04:33] <ubotu> soldats: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:33] <nickrud> jrib, none of universe?
[04:33] <Tm_T> QMario: aye
[04:33] <ogre> jrib,  thanks alot. you just saved me a few hours  of download time
[04:33] <soldats> ahh
[04:33] <jrib> nickrud: not that I know of, but if someone says there is, I wouldn't disagree
[04:33] <soldats> i forgot
[04:33] <Hammy> OldSpice:your welcome :-)
[04:33] <Hammy> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48978/
[04:33] <bigal> how fast  the graphics card
[04:34] <bigal> it somethin like glxgears
[04:35] <sutti1> Im trying to compile a book i got off the internet, and i get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48979/
[04:35] <danc3> it *is* glxgears
[04:35] <nickrud> Hammy, you see how we added what was already there? The # at the beginning of the lines are what's called "commenting out" , so they are not used. You can leave it as is, or remove the section above what we added
[04:35] <sutti1> anyone know whats going on
[04:36] <Arrick> !vnc
[04:36] <Hammy> so what do you want me to do...i dont care about me...i just need Vista back, i have Ubuntu on my laptop
[04:36] <jrib> sutti1: you need to provide more details
[04:36] <nickrud> Hammy, reboot, you're good to go
[04:36] <Arrick> hrmmm
[04:36] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:36] <danc3> sutti1: looks like it can't find a ".bzr" file, whatever that is
[04:36] <Hammy> nickrud: okay thanks and i have another question....hold ill paste it
[04:36] <Arrick> heya jrib long time no see
[04:36] <sutti1> danc3: lol, do you know what a bzr file is?
[04:36] <Arrick> hows school going?
[04:36] <jrib> sutti1: for example, what command gave you that error?
[04:36] <zigui> i can't set the limits of temperature in my ubuntu with lm-Sensors
[04:37] <danc3> sutti1: I just said that I didn't
[04:37] <jrib> Arrick: what's up
[04:37] <Arrick> not much
[04:37] <Arrick> im installing a ubuntu security machine and want vnc server on it
[04:37] <sutti1> jrib: i just put in make from the directory with the makefile
[04:37] <Hammy> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48980/
[04:37] <sutti1> dance3: ok, thanks anyway
[04:37] <jrib> sutti1: ok, then pastebin the Makefile and tell us what book this is so we can take a look
[04:38] <Hammy> ive always had that problem when i start up my comp. it has liek 4 ubuntu listing but when i click any, thay all load the same thing. it isnt taking disk space up but...
[04:38] <sutti1> jrib: one sec
[04:38] <nickrud> Hammy, I skipped over all that, you do have a lot of obsolete kernels :)
[04:39] <zigui> i can't set the limits of temperature in my ubuntu with lm-Sensors, can any one help me
[04:39] <n0ah> after the recent kernel-header update i'm now getting Error 22: cannot load disk (or close to that).. i've looked around and can't figure out how to fix it
[04:39] <sutti1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48981/ the title of the book is in the pastebin
[04:39] <sutti1> jrib: i can get a link to the site if you would like
[04:39] <jrib> sutti1: you know you can read it online?
[04:40] <sutti1> jrib: yeah i know, but sometimes i dont have wifi
[04:40] <Hammy> nickrud: no i just wanted to know how can i remove them? i dont liek seeing over a hundred Ubuntu's :-P like it says Ubuntu[something here] then ubuntu mem test[soething here]...and it says that a couple of times...then finally it says other OS [new line] Vista Longhorn...
[04:40] <nickrud> Hammy, you can run system->admin->synaptic , and  press the status button lower left. You should see all the obsolete kernels there, and you can delete them
[04:40] <kupesoft> n0ah: Live boot Ubuntu and rollback to the old kernel?
[04:41] <Arrick> is there an ultravnc "listen" mode for any vnc server that ubuntu supports?
[04:41] <n0ah> kupesoft, there's instructions how to roll back on the forums likely right?
[04:41] <nickrud> Hammy, under Installed (local or obsolete)
[04:41] <jrib> sutti1: k let me grab the tarball and try here
[04:41] <wichobabas> hi bros
[04:42] <wichobabas> hey what u think bout 7.10?
[04:42] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to have a folder monitored and launch a program based on what file type is placed in the folder?
[04:42] <Hammy> nickrud: thanks ill be right back ok im going to reboot
[04:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[04:43] <jrib> WorkingOnWise: look into gamin and inotify
[04:43] <kupesoft> n0ah, yeah, you basically want to install an old package and put it on "hold"
[04:43]  * nickrud crosses his fingers ;p
[04:43] <calvin_> hello
[04:43] <zigui> does any one now how to set the limits of temperature with lm-sensors?
[04:43] <jrib> WorkingOnWise: incron maybe too
[04:43] <raddy> GDM is starting in lower resolution
[04:43] <kupesoft> n0ah: When you've live booted, chroot in to your old environment,
[04:43] <raddy> can anybody help me fix it?
[04:43] <n0ah> kupesoft, ok thanks.. i'll give it a shot (:
[04:45] <jrib> sutti1: just do 'touch .bzr' or comment the lines that move .bzr around.  If you care, .bzr is where bazaar-ng, a distributed version control system, stores its information
[04:45] <zigui> hello
[04:45] <jrib> sutti1: then do make again
[04:45] <WorkingOnWise> jrib: thanks.
[04:45] <sutti1> jrib: ok, thanks a ton
[04:46] <raddy> gdm is started in lower resolution, can anybody help me?
[04:46] <Hammy> nickrud: dude your a genius!! it worked!!!now time to check if it loads :-P
[04:46] <fwaokda> im trying to bootup ubuntu 7.10 with the cd but after it gets through loading all the stuff (the black screen with the [OK]'s) it goes to a black screen and nothing happens... how can i resolve this issue?
[04:46] <nickrud> heh. That is the 64 dollar question
[04:47] <danc3> fwaokda: download and use the "alternate" installer disk
[04:47] <sutti1> jrib: that worked, thanks again
[04:47] <Arrick> with ubuntu (new updated) which vncserver will allow more than one connection, and allow them all to share the same screen?
[04:47] <zigui> what is the question can i now?
[04:47] <larson9999> i don't watch tv.  but i got this danged hulu account and can't stop
[04:47] <fwaokda> :( no other way around it? where can i find the alternate disk?
[04:47] <nickrud> zigui, just ask, there's too many questions to wait :)
[04:47] <danc3> fwaokda: same place you downloaded the other one
[04:47] <dr_willis> Arrick:  you can run 'vncserver' and have serveral dozen clients all viewing he same screen, thats not the same as sharing the currently running desktop however.
[04:47] <fwaokda> someone sent me a link for the first one
[04:48] <fwaokda> :o
[04:48] <danc3> fwaokda: you can't find the Ubuntu website?
[04:48] <danc3> wow
[04:48] <zigui> i ha ve a problem when i set de limits of lmsensors
[04:48] <fwaokda> im new to all this i dont know what im doin :(
[04:48] <nickrud> fwaokda, releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , the alternate works on more hardware. That's why it's being recommended
[04:48] <Arrick> dr_willis I just want to be able to do demonstrations of certain security software for my techs, and have them connect in
[04:48] <fwaokda> ty nickrud
[04:48] <zigui> doens't
[04:48] <danc3> fwaokda: well, time to start figuring out the simple stuff.  Hint:  google
[04:48] <zigui> work
[04:48] <zigui> my laptop
[04:48] <Arrick> so would that be vncserver that i want?
[04:49] <zigui> is a fliyng jet air plain
[04:49] <nickrud> zigui, don't know much about lm-sensors, sorry. Ask every few minutes
[04:49] <Arrick> heya nickrud long time no see
[04:49] <zigui> the fan doesen't
[04:49] <zigui> stop
[04:49] <Arrick> hows the weather down there?
[04:49] <nickrud> hi there Arrick where're ya been?
[04:49] <nickrud> raining
[04:49] <zigui> ok
[04:49] <dr_willis> Arrick:  vncserver can do that. but its a flexiable tool. and can be used in many ways. You can spawn a vncserer session, in addation to your current desktop. and have everyone connect to it.
[04:49] <zigui> thanks
[04:49] <WorkingOnWise> what is the simplest scripting language to use for performing several actions prior to launching an app, and after closing the app.  Example -  I want to switch to workspace2, switch from compiz-fusion to metacity, then launcch Google Earth and Google SketchUp. When I close eithe app, ask to close the other. If yes, switch from metacity to compiz-fusion, and back to workspace 1. What is the best tool for this script?
[04:49] <dr_willis> Arrick:  you proberly want to use a very minimal desktop/window manager for that.
[04:50] <danc3> WorkingOnWise: ummmm, a mouse?
[04:50] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, bash or python.
[04:50] <Arrick> dr_willis its been a while what would be a decent desk/window manager for it?
[04:50] <dr_willis> good luck switht hat script.. :)
[04:50] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, python probably in this case, I think it has good links to wnck
[04:51] <dr_willis> Arrick:  ive been using jwm lately - because i want a very very very light/simple window manager for my vnc needsd.
[04:51] <WorkingOnWise> danc3: haha....so many clicks...I'm a Windows refugee....like I want to work that hard!  :)
[04:51]  * nickrud has only been nibbled by python, he runs from real programming these days
[04:51] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: what is wnck?
[04:52] <Arrick> ok, thanks for the recommendations dr_willis, i actually installed SUSE 10.3 last week, with the intent of using it, but alas, there is a bug and it wont run the PS2 mouse on the machine I am using.
[04:52] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, its a library that gives you low level control of the window manager, like switching desktops
[04:52] <dr_willis> a ps2 mouse bug.. egads.. :) thats old-skool heh heh..
[04:52] <dr_willis> !find workingonwise
[04:52] <nickrud> lol
[04:52] <Arrick> yeah
[04:52] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: ah, ok. Thanks
[04:52] <danc3> Arrick: suse will use a ps2 mouse just fine
[04:52] <Arrick> I was very surprised
[04:52] <ubotu> Package/file workingonwise does not exist in gutsy
[04:52] <Arrick> danc3 not on this particular box
[04:52] <nickrud> !find libwnck
[04:52] <ubotu> Found: libwnck-common, libwnck-dev, libwnck22
[04:53] <nickrud> !info libwnck22
[04:53] <ubotu> libwnck22: Window Navigator Construction Kit - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 151 kB, installed size 340 kB
[04:53] <Arrick> something to do with the screwed up drivers for it
[04:53] <danc3> Arrick: a little hard to believe... did you configure Xorg?
[04:53] <dr_willis> Arrick:  ubuntu is better anyway. :)
[04:53] <Arrick> yes, as did the suse guys
[04:53] <Arrick> and novell lol
[04:53] <danc3> meh
[04:56] <derekcorwin> does anyone know if you can use ubuntu with people PC?
[04:56] <kahrytan> Hello
[04:56] <ubuntu> adunanza.net
[04:57] <Arrick> derekcorwin if you can figure out how to port the proprietary MS software, yes
[04:57] <WorkingOnWise> how can I turn on numlock on boot? not on x start, but early on during boot? I use the numpad lots and it is a constant iritation to  type, see nothing, hit numlock and try agin. I want it on always, in all terminals, whether in a gui, terminal, or recovery kernel.
[04:57] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: Perhaps check for a BIOS option, I've seen a few computers that have that
[04:58] <CrossKel> Is there a way to set the desktop background as an html file? The usual change desktop background doesn't work, and I haven't really found any such info off Google...
[04:58] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  why at boot?
[04:58] <Tretle> hey... just tried installing ubuntu 7.10 twice and each time  I have problems with grub.. can anyone help?
[04:58] <WorkingOnWise> Pici: no joy there. I bought this laptop for a great price and got what i paid for!
[04:58] <danc3> Tretle: not without more info
[04:58] <bazhang> hi kahrytan
[04:58] <MasterShrek> CrossKel: you could take a screenshot of an html document, but to get an html document to be the actual background would take some code modifying
[04:59] <WorkingOnWise> kahrytan: mainly because my passwords are all a mix of severan numbers and letters....
[04:59] <zigui> does any one now how i can set the limits in this file and how i can restart the new values /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points
[04:59] <Filled-Void> Is there a different install for AMD64 processors and one for Intel 64 bit processors or is there just a single 64 bit Install for both?
[04:59] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  then turn it on at login. I know there is a way
[04:59] <MasterShrek> Filled-Void: they are the same
[04:59] <Tretle> well its booting to a terminal like screen and for input it has grub>
[04:59] <Filled-Void> MasterShrek, Ty for confirming :)
[05:00] <MasterShrek> np
[05:00] <Tretle> it says its grub version 0.97
[05:00] <CrossKel> MasterShrek: Unfortunately, a screenshot won't permit my links and other stuff to be functional... Not sure I'm willing to tinker with the code behind Ubuntu or the kernel yet, either. Thanks for the info.
[05:00] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Hardware/How_to_Get_the_NumLock_Key_to_Stay_On.html has some stuff, you'd need to modify it a bit for ubuntu
[05:00] <Tretle> i have a windows xp partition on the pc with ubuntu
[05:00] <zigui> does any one now how i can set the limits in this file and how i can restart the new values /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points in 7.10
[05:00] <danc3> Tretle: type "root (hd0,0)"  press Enter, then at the next prompt type "setup (hd0)"
[05:01] <Tretle> and cant boot into either of them
[05:01] <MasterShrek> !grub
[05:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <danc3> Tretle: that is assuming your linux partitioin is at the first partition, which it may not be
[05:01] <dr_willis> CrossKel:  ive seen ways to set windows to be at the bottom layer, borderless,  and so forth.. but you lose the desktop menus/icons and so forth. You basicially have a browser thats below everything with no  borders.
[05:01] <PirateHead> My friend has updates in the Ubuntu update manager that he doesn't want to install. Is there a way to make the update manager stop advertising them?
[05:02] <nikitis> I have a small issue.  I've got a Wireless Card that uses ndiswrapper.  It works, but not until I shut it down then re-enable it.  Is there a way to make it work on boot without having to shut it down first?
[05:02] <Tretle> and if the windows partition is at the first partition can I edit the grub after to use the ubuntu partition or does grub get overwriten?
[05:03] <Kalamansi> hello networkers i need help... pc1 server ubuntu can connect internet but pc2 cant connect internet... modem 191.168.1.1 ---> serverun ubuntu -- > switch ---> pc2
[05:03] <danc3> Tretle: I don't understand your question, doesn't make sense
[05:03] <bazhang> Tretle: which is first windows or ubuntu?
[05:03] <WorkingOnWise> kahrytan: the only way I have found near logon is at x start, and only in tty 7. When I switch to a differant trminal, the numlock is off. If I come up in the recovery terminal, or x fails to load, no auto  numlock...
[05:03] <nickrud> PirateHead, usually you would want the stuff in update manager, they fix bad bugs or security stuff. He can use synaptic and the lock version option under packages
[05:03] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: ty. looking at that now
[05:04] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  what way?
[05:04] <Tretle> right tried the root (hd0,0) thing and it says filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[05:04] <nikitis> Question:  How do I make my wireless card start on boot?
[05:04] <danc3> Tretle: try (hd0,1)
[05:04] <PirateHead> nickrud: are the package names in Synaptic the exact same as they are in the update managerA?
[05:04] <zigui> i think
[05:04] <WorkingOnWise> kahrytan: i'd have to loook for it...it is an app in the repos just for turning on numlock at x start
[05:04] <keithclark> Hi there.  I have PCLinuxOS installed on my laptop and would like to try the Ubuntu 7.10 CD I just received today, but I can't seem to activate the wireless, restricted firmware for my BCM wireless card.
[05:04] <zigui> doens't the same
[05:05] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, what they say for rc.local, you'd probably want to put in a file in /etc/init.d/ and link into /etc/rc.S so they work in recovery console, and just add the numlockx command to ~/.gnomerc (you'll have to create the file)
[05:05] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, /etc/rcS.d that is
[05:05] <Tretle> right think i found the right partiotion... now it says filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[05:05] <Byan> does anyone have any idea why grub fails at installing?
[05:05] <danc3> Tretle: now do "setup (hd0)"
[05:05] <Tretle> byan... u too?
[05:06] <Byan> Tretle: lol, yeah
[05:06] <Byan> Tretle: what is your laptop?
[05:06] <nickrud> PirateHead, yes
[05:06] <Byan> erm
[05:06] <zigui> Byan:probably a bad instalation
[05:06] <Byan> what is your comp rather
[05:06] <Tretle> byan not using laptop
[05:06] <Tretle> using desktop
[05:06] <nickrud> PirateHead, but he should really seriously reconsider
[05:06] <hdevalence> is there a *buntu netinst CD like the debian one?
[05:06] <Xbehave> SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz
[05:06] <Byan> zigui: I tried installing many times
[05:06] <Neskaya> I there a way to get more than two workspaces?
[05:06] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  what you want is NumberLock for GDM and Gnome at start
[05:06] <Xbehave> how do i find out what graphics drivers im using?
[05:06] <Byan> zigui: using both the desktop and alternative cd's
[05:07] <PirateHead> nickrud: I haven't asked why he doesn't want these particular packages upgraded, so I'll make sure to explain that updates are a good idea in general.
[05:07] <Byan> zigui: the alternative cd says failed at install grub
[05:07] <Tretle> didnt have any problems before which makes me wonder if ubuntu downloads and installs updates upon installation or if the new bios from gigabyte doesnt like ubuntu at all
[05:07] <danc3> Tretle: did you do the second command?
[05:07] <zigui> you are trying to innstall
[05:07] <zigui> the grub
[05:07] <Byan> zigui: what do you mean?
[05:07] <sparr> Im trying to run an app with mono, its complaining about System.Drawing being missing, then throwing a sigsegv.  I have libgdiplus installed.  Help?
[05:07] <zigui> in sda(0,0)
[05:07] <Byan> oh, not talking to me
[05:07] <Tretle> do i type setup (hd0,1)
[05:08] <Tretle> ?
[05:08] <zigui> or in the partition you are instaling ubuntu?
[05:08] <danc3> Tretle: no
[05:08] <danc3> setup (hd0)
[05:08] <danc3> that's a ZERO
[05:08] <WorkingOnWise> kahrytan: i need it before that. it cant be dependant on x starting or not starting.
[05:08] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  you try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_turn_on_Num_Lock_on_GNOME_startup ?
[05:08] <Byan> I am thinking about installing ubuntu feisty instead..
[05:08] <Byan> cause, that installed worked..
[05:08] <Tretle> right
[05:08] <khin> hi im trying to move a directory recursively and overwrite existing subdirectories with the same name
[05:08] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  You said you need it for login
[05:09] <Tretle> what do i do after that
[05:09] <danc3> Tretle: well?
[05:09] <danc3> reboot
[05:09] <zigui> Byan:you have to instal the grub in the hd(0,0)
[05:09] <khin> ive tried every mv -option i can find and it still gives "cannot overwrite directory: blah blah"
[05:09] <Tretle> it says succeded
[05:09] <danc3> Tretle: oh, now do "quit"
[05:09] <zigui> Byan:you are doing this?
[05:09] <danc3> and then reboot
[05:09] <cristian> gi
[05:09] <kahrytan> WorkingOnWise➲  GDM  is the Login manager
[05:09] <Byan> zigui: why can't the automated setup do it?
[05:09] <cristian> you
[05:09] <cristian> doning
[05:09] <cristian> people
[05:09] <khin> anyone know how to do this
[05:09] <khin> i could just do it in nautilus but its kind of pathetic
[05:09] <nickrud> !enter | cristian
[05:09] <ubotu> cristian: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:09] <cristian> this is a cul chat client
[05:10] <danc3> Tretle: ???
[05:10] <Tretle> byan.... i used 7.10 several times with no problems which makes me think its gigabytes problem :(
[05:10] <Tretle> still rebooting
[05:10] <danc3> k
[05:10] <Byan> Tretle: IDK.. I installed fiesty on the same laptop model before
[05:10] <Tretle> grrr
[05:11] <Byan> and it worked without hassel
[05:11] <Tretle> still broken
[05:11] <Byan> Tretle: does grub boot?
[05:11] <Tretle> before it worked with no problems other than detecting settings for my monitor
[05:11] <Byan> these guys aren't installing grub correctly..
[05:11] <Tretle> its like failsafe grub
[05:11] <Byan> you need to use grub-install
[05:11] <Byan> oh really?
[05:11] <Byan> you mean, just a command line?
[05:12] <araju> j #pulseaudio
[05:12] <Byan> lol araju
[05:12] <Byan> stupid ubuntu
[05:12] <Tretle> "these guys aren't installing grub correctly" how about the installer didnt install it correctly twice in a row
[05:12] <malnilion> Pulse Audio, the way of the future :P
[05:12] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: that link looks like exactly what I want! Should be fine after a bit of "ubuntufying" !!  :D Thanks
[05:12] <Byan> Tretle: grub-install didn't work?
[05:13] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:13] <Byan> you did grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk hd0
[05:13] <Byan> ?
[05:13] <araju> byan: noticed my misspell. :)
[05:13] <raddy> GDM is starting in a diff resolution
[05:13] <raddy> can anybody help me?
[05:13] <Tretle> and where do i type that
[05:13] <keithclark> ok, never mind.  Back to pclos for the time being.  Pity, after sending me the CDs.  I'll try again in the next version.
[05:13] <Byan> Tretle: the terminal
[05:13] <Tretle> in other options on the ubuntu cd?
[05:13] <Byan> what? run the live cd
[05:13] <Byan> open the terminal
[05:14] <zigui> Byan:normaly the setup of installer have predefined that the partition with the grub loader is hd(0,0), but you have the chance to confirm it
[05:14] <khin> is there no way to move directories recursively while overwriting currently existing subdirectories?
[05:14] <Byan> zigui: I see no place to do either
[05:14] <Tretle> did much other people have this problem?
[05:14] <Byan> zigui: either change it or confirm it
[05:14]  * Byan looks again
[05:14] <raddy> GDM is starting in a diff resolution
[05:15] <formolQ1> hi
[05:15] <Byan> yeah
[05:15] <Byan> there is no option to change it
[05:16] <Byan> it seems like it would know to use the partition you used to isntall ubuntu..
[05:16] <Byan> as the one for grub
[05:16] <nickrud> khin, I think you need to use cp , then rm the origin dir
[05:16]  * Byan sigsh
[05:16] <khin> thats kind of pathetic but ok
[05:17] <zigui> Byan:you chose the partition where you go to install the ubuntu after them you have the chance to confirm when you make "next"
[05:17] <nickrud> khin, there's probably a way, but heck
[05:17] <raddy> can anybody help me in fixing gdm resolution problem?
[05:17] <Byan> zigui: using alternative cd
[05:17] <Byan> there is not any option like that =P
[05:17] <nickrud> raddy, gdm is wrong, but the desktop is right?
[05:18] <zigui> Byan:you have a Little button in the bottom of instaler and when you presse this button you will seen a menu
[05:18] <raddy> nickrud : exactly
[05:19] <zigui> Byan:where you can see if you are installing grub
[05:19] <Byan> yeah
[05:19] <Byan> zigui: it says install grub and tells me that it fails
[05:19] <nickrud> raddy, how about putting a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf  , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and the output of    lspci | grep -i vga    (typed in a terminal) on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:19] <Byan> and it has no way to configure what it is trying to do either
[05:20] <Byan> I am begining to lose my respect for ubuntu >_>
[05:20] <raddy> nickrud : sure
[05:20] <Tretle> right
[05:20] <zigui> Byan:hd(0,0)
[05:20] <Byan> zigui: wtf, what?
[05:20] <zigui> Byan:in the alternate
[05:20] <zigui> i don't now
[05:20] <Tretle> anyone know what noapic option does?
[05:20] <Byan> where do I put that?
[05:20] <Byan> there is no option
[05:20] <Byan> and it would be hd(0,3) anyways
[05:20] <Tretle> no
[05:21] <rcomalta___> hello i am ferst time in ubutu can some help me to dawnlod xchat
[05:21] <Byan> yes, my linux partition is not hd(0,0)
[05:21] <Byan> it is hd(0,3)
[05:21] <Tretle> its something i had to put in before to install ubuntu without it crashing while booting from the cd but after the firmware update i dont
[05:22] <nickrud> rcomalta___, system->admin->synaptic , ctl-f  , xchat.  Click the box next to xchat, then press apply
[05:22] <Tretle> maybe that has something to do with the problem im having
[05:22] <corruptionoflulz> Eagleray: forgot which channel we were in
[05:22] <zigui> Byan the hd(0,3), is the place you going to install ubuntu
[05:22] <malnilion> nickrud, he might not have universe enabled
[05:22] <Byan> zigui: yes..
[05:22] <raddy> nickrud : xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48982/
[05:22] <nickrud> malnilion, very true, we'll find out :)
[05:22] <zigui> Byan:but the grub you install it on hd(0,0)
[05:22] <Billy> is there a way to run Mac on linux ? ........ like using VMware to run windows on linux ....
[05:22] <Byan> zigui: no you don;t..
[05:22] <Byan> you install it on your linux partition..
[05:22] <Byan> it goes into /boot/grub
[05:22] <rcomalta___> nickrud
[05:23] <malnilion> Billy, I've done it, it's technically illegal, and it doesn't run well from my experience :P
[05:23] <Billy> malice, I own the CD ...... still its illegal ?
[05:24] <nickrud> raddy, your xorg is not what I'd call useable ; try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , log out, and back in. It wll make a back up for you
[05:24] <rcomalta___> how can i dawnload x chat
[05:24] <malnilion> Billy, it's a gray area.  At any rate, your CD won't "just work", you would need to patch your CD image
[05:24] <sparr> Billy: illegal in some countries, possibly the USA.  and it runs just as well as any other virtualized OS
[05:24] <nickrud> raddy, erm, replace -phigh with -pcritical
[05:24] <malnilion> sparr, you've got it working well?
[05:24] <Billy> i see
[05:24] <zigui> Byan:when i say that you goes to install on hd(0,0),is because you are creating a reference to hd(0,3) in Boot Record sector 0 of the disk 0
[05:24] <raddy> nickrud : Xorg.0.log output
[05:24] <Billy> malice, : what would I use anyways ? .......... any URLs ?
[05:24] <zigui> when the computer start
[05:24] <raddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48983/
[05:25] <linux_stu> does directx 9 vs directx 10 have any relevance when running linux?
[05:25] <Byan> zigui: but hd(0,0) is the 1st partition...
[05:25] <zigui> Byan:he goes to read the master boot record
[05:25] <nickrud> rcomalta___, synaptic is your gateway to all the packages in ubuntu.  If you will run synaptic, do ctl -f (opens a search box) and search for xchat , you should see it. Let me know if you don't
[05:25] <malnilion> Billy, you might try this guide: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to
[05:25] <Byan> zigui: when you do the boot record stuff, you use setup(hd0)
[05:25] <sparr> malnilion: had tiger running great.  havent done anything with leopard yet
[05:25] <Byan> there is no (0,0)
[05:25] <KNRO> Anyone here knows the structure of dsc files? What is meant exactly by Build-Depends? and is there just Depends for depndencies?
[05:25] <Byan> it's just hd0
[05:25] <nickrud> raddy, did you see my last about running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[05:26] <Billy> sparr, what progy did you use ?
[05:26] <zigui> Byan:if there are no link to your partition or win partition, he don't sart up with your ubuntu
[05:26] <raddy> nickrud : will do
[05:26] <malnilion> Billy, I used vmware when I tried, sparr might have used something different
[05:27] <Billy> malice, what problem did you have when you ran it ?
[05:27] <sparr> i think i was using Xen then
[05:27] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: #pmcoreag sorry
[05:27] <sparr> been a while
[05:27] <zigui> Byan:you have to put in master boot record same information
[05:27] <Eagleray> corruptionoflulz: had a phonecall
[05:27] <nickrud> rcomalta___, how's it going, you finding it?
[05:27] <Byan> zigui: yeah, but (0,0) is not the boot record
[05:27] <Byan> at least I am pretty sure it's not
[05:27] <Byan> thats the 1st partition
[05:27] <backgen> hey has anyone ever had that problem where every window you open up...the top bar that you can click and hold to drag it around...is either missing or hidden under the top bar of the desktop?
[05:28] <rcomalta___> nikrood hi
[05:28] <rcomalta___> where i need to go
[05:28] <malnilion> Billy, I couldn't get a lot of basic functionality working, but I bet the guide on the wiki link I posted has improved
[05:28] <rcomalta___> i cant do it
[05:28] <Billy> malnilion, Thanks man .......
[05:28] <nickrud> rcomalta___, system->admin->synaptic , open that
[05:28] <backgen> actually i think my Ubuntu is just messed up in general...it's just acting strange
[05:28] <nickrud> rcomalta___, from the menu bar
[05:29] <travis_> h
[05:29] <mike_> hey with compiz whats the keyboard shortcut to zoom out to the cube?
[05:29] <zigui> Byan:set the local installation on the grub to hd(0,0), in the installer
[05:29] <backgen> is there any way to reverse all the updates i downloaded after i just installed Ubuntu, because i really do think its those updates that caused the problem
[05:29] <travis_> ctrl + alt + left mouse hold and drag
[05:30] <Tretle> what am i supposed to do after typing grub-install into the terminal on the live cd?
[05:30] <Geoffrey2> Ubuntu will not boot, it's a kernel bug that requires a specific disable command in the kernel command during boot...something to do with the clock functions
[05:30] <Byan> zigui: there is no option
[05:30] <Byan> zigui: I never changed it
[05:30] <germ77> thanks a ton tretle, is there a list of those somewhere or is it just in the settings manager screen?
[05:31] <Geoffrey2> I had the command in, but the last kernel update rewrote the grub file and erased it, and I forgot to write it down....anyone happen to know what the command would be?
[05:31] <Tretle> noapic
[05:32] <backgen> Can anyone help me? All the top little bars of all my windows are missing...so i can't minimize or resize or close any windows!
[05:32] <maddash> backgen: that's because you don
[05:32] <maddash> backgen: that's because you don't have a WM running.
[05:32] <backgen> maddash: a what?
[05:32] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, no I don't, but to avoid that override in the future, look for the line   #defoptions=   in /boot/grub/menu.lst and add it there, the grub update will add it to kernels from then on
[05:32] <maddash> backgen: window manager.
[05:32] <backgen> maddash: gasp!!! how do i turn it off?
[05:33] <zigui> Byan:i never see this in a ubuntu cd
[05:33] <backgen> maddash: also...my "spaces" isn't working...i can't switch from screen to screen
[05:33] <Tretle> f6 for other options
[05:33] <Tretle> you manually type it
[05:33] <zigui> Byan:i already se this in Mandriva,suse,PclinuxOs, but not in ubuntu
[05:33] <backgen> maddash: is that because of the window manager too?
[05:33] <maddash> backgen: can you open a terminal?
[05:34] <backgen> sure thing
[05:34] <backgen> maddash: ok Terminal is open...what next?
[05:34] <r3n0c> an somebody help me get Driftnet to work
[05:34] <Tretle> does the livecd download updates and whatnot during the installation of ubuntu?
[05:34] <maddash> backgen: x-window-manager
[05:34] <rainwalker> Tretle: yes
[05:34] <Tretle> grrr
[05:34] <r3n0c> anybody get driftnet to work? or could explain how/wtf to do to make it work? i am just a computer connected to a network
[05:35] <r3n0c> do i have to be the host?
[05:35] <Tretle> i have a funny feeling its that that is screwing up grub
[05:35] <Tretle> out goes the network cable
[05:35] <Tretle> :D
[05:35] <asad_> Hi everyone
[05:35] <backgen> maddash: alright this is the message it gives me: "Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[05:35] <backgen> "
[05:35] <nickrud> maddash, you are showing your history there :)
[05:35] <germ77> another noob question, i got 4 desktops setup and all 4 show in the bottom corner of the screen but it wont let me switch to the ones on the bottom row, it still lets me right click a window and move it to that desktop though but i cant get to the desktop
[05:35] <qcode> ls
[05:35] <asad_> Anyone from Salt Lake city ?
[05:36] <maddash> nickrud: what?
[05:36] <zigui> does any one now how i can set the limits in this file and how i can restart the new values /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points
[05:36] <Geoffrey2> right now I'm just trying to get something, anything, to boot up so I can mount the drive, and look at the old grub file and edit the current one
[05:36] <r3n0c> anybody know how to get driftnet to work?
[05:36] <nickrud> maddash, x-window-manager , sadly many of those alternatives aren't being used well
[05:37] <Geoffrey2> I've got something called "System Rescue CD" which apparently uses Gentoo, but for some reason it doesn't evem recognize my hard drive
[05:37] <nickrud> backgen, are you using compiz?
[05:38] <backgen> nickrud: compiz? i don't think so what is that?
[05:38] <r3n0c> anybody? driftnet help?
[05:38] <nickrud> backgen, the pretty desktop with the cube. if not, type metacity --replace & in the terminal
[05:38] <maddash> where's dpkg?
[05:38] <alecwh_d> I'm trying to build a program from source, and while running ./configure, I get this: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". How can I fix this?
[05:38] <maddash> !ping
[05:38] <ubotu> pong
[05:38] <Geoffrey2> what would be a decent emergency disk I could use to boot from so I could get access to my hard drive?
[05:38] <zigui> does any one now how i can set the limits of temperature and how i can restart the new values /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points
[05:39] <jrgp> Hello
[05:39] <nickrud> !info dpkg
[05:39] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.14.5ubuntu16 (gutsy), package size 2123 kB, installed size 6712 kB
[05:39] <nickrud> whew! still there :)
[05:40] <maddash> nickrud: I was referring to the bot
[05:40] <r3n0c> has anybody used driftnet and gotten i to work?
[05:40] <pwnguin> is it easy to substitute lilo for grub in the ubuntu installer? i think grub hates this computer we have =(
[05:40] <zigui> does any one now how i can set the limits in this file and how i can restart the new values /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points--help  please
[05:40] <dr_willis> Geoffrey2:  i like, dsl, puppylinux, the 'system rescue cd'   disrtos   for my livecd needs.
[05:40] <nickrud> maddash, does that one run here? I didn't know that
[05:40] <backgen> nickrud: oh my god...i don't know what just happened, but you are a genius!!! the top bars of all my windows are back!!!
[05:40] <backgen> nickrud: what did just happen btw?
[05:41] <Tretle> look up timevault for backup and restore needs
[05:41] <bazhang> Tretle: you mean rsync?
[05:41] <maddash> backgen: your old window manager crapped out.
[05:41] <nickrud> backgen, what we did was restart metacity, it's the window manager. It draws borders, allows you to move windows, and has the keybindings for changing desktops and the like
[05:41] <Tretle> is this grub issue just a bug from one of the updates
[05:41] <backgen> nickrud: oh fantastic...is it known to "crap out" much?
[05:41] <nickrud> backgen, now, in the terminal type    disown <tab> <enter> , so you can close it
[05:42] <nickrud> backgen, no, but often enough that the fix is known
[05:42] <Tretle> backgen.... its known to do it when people play with compiz and beryl
[05:42] <zigui> i need help my noteboks seems like a dc 130 with only one motor, the fan doesn't stop
[05:43] <backgen> nickrud: ok so i typed in disown <tab> <enter> and i got this messager in my Terminal: "bash: disown: current: no such job
[05:43] <backgen> "
[05:43] <Geoffrey2> dr_willis, hmmm, I'm using a System Rescue CD, but for some reason my SATA drive is not being recognized by it
[05:43] <nickrud> backgen, herm, I guess metacity disowns itself :)
[05:43] <backgen> Tretle: what is compiz and beryl? are they like Gnome?
[05:43] <Tretle> they are compositors
[05:43] <Tretle> eye candy for gnome
[05:43] <Tretle> or kde
[05:43] <nickrud> !info metacity | backgen
[05:43] <ubotu> backgen: metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 600 kB
[05:44] <zigui>  i need help my notebok seems like a dc 130 with only one motor, the fan doesn't stop
[05:44] <backgen> ah ok
[05:44] <nickrud> compiz is windower bait
[05:44] <backgen> so do you guys recommend using compiz or beryl? or no?
[05:44] <Tretle> usually people get the same problem as u when they try and set up emerald...
[05:44] <zigui> compiz fusion
[05:44] <Tretle> compiz fusion = compiz + beryl
[05:45] <nickrud> compiz is fun, but not necessary. I've gotten a couple people interested in trying linux just for the eye candy
[05:45] <backgen> I must say though i'm in love with Terminal...this thing has save my life quite a few times today
[05:45] <zigui> hep
[05:45] <backgen> nickrud: where can i get compiz?
[05:45] <nickrud> backgen, what kind of video card do you use?
[05:45] <Tretle> its there already.... desktop effects
[05:45] <backgen> nickrud: or at least info/screenshots on it?
[05:45] <zigui> it cames with ubuntu
[05:45] <backgen> nickrud: oh my...a crappy intergrated one that came with my dell
[05:46] <nickrud> backgen, what kind of crappy integrated :)
[05:46] <Tretle> if you want to configure it more then go into synaptic and search for compiz config settings manager or something like that
[05:46] <Tretle> #ubuntu-effects
[05:46] <Eyemean> i there a software to just open and close drive doors pls?
[05:46] <rcomalta___> nickrud i cant find it
[05:46] <pegasus> Is there any equivalent of "manycam" or "WebcamMax" for Ubuntu?
[05:46] <backgen> nickrud: hahaha i couldn't tell you...i think it was Intel something...do you know of a way that i could check?
[05:46] <zigui>  i need help  the fan doesn't stop,
[05:46] <warriorf2rgod> backgen: lspci
[05:47] <zigui> even if the temereture rich 38C
[05:47] <nickrud> rcomalta___, ok, that probably means you have to enable some extra software sources. Go to system->admin->software sources, make sure the first 4 items are selected, and the cdrom is not
[05:47] <zigui> temperature
[05:47] <backgen> warriorf2rgod: whats Ispci?
[05:47] <pegasus> Is there any equivalent of "manycam" or "WebcamMax" for Ubuntu?
[05:47] <rcomalta___> i am system but i dont have admin
[05:47] <Tretle> http://planet.gnome.org/    look at macslow's blog   hes work is freaking awesome
[05:48] <nickrud> rcomalta___, is your interface not in english?
[05:48] <MyOriginalAlias> Would anyone be able to tell me how to install a Gnome desklet?
[05:48] <rcomalta___> yes it is
[05:48] <Tretle> screenlets are better
[05:48] <nickrud> rcomalta___, you do not have the adminstrator's password?
[05:49] <pegasus> MyOriginalAlias sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[05:49] <MyOriginalAlias> I just want a good meter that displays cpus/mem/net/
[05:49] <rcomalta___> i have system softwaresores
[05:49] <maddash> rofl
[05:49] <nickrud> rcomalta___, ok, the first four items are the software sources that ubuntu provides. Make sure they are all selected.
[05:50] <rcomalta___> yes are
[05:50] <nickrud> rcomalta___, were they selected before?
[05:50] <rcomalta___> yes
[05:51] <nickrud> hm, you are having problems finding it in synaptic then. You should learn that program, it is very helpful. For now, go to applications->accessories->terminal
[05:51] <backgen> anyone know of a way that i can check what kind of graphics card is in the computer?
[05:51] <nickrud> backgen, lspci | grep -i vga   (that's an L in lspci
[05:51] <jahlin> does anyone know of a good doc for getting my atheros chipset wifi card working using the madwifi driver ?
[05:51] <RomeReactor> backgen: sudo lshw -C display
[05:52] <zigui> how i can save the new values in  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points  ?
[05:52] <nickrud> rcomalta___, ??
[05:52] <m3gach33zy> hi
[05:52] <Tretle> i presume the hw stands for hardware which makes me wonder why have lsusb
[05:52] <Arrick> does anyone know a command that will tell me if my vncserver is running?
[05:53] <Arrick> I cant seem to connect, even though i installed it from synaptic
[05:53] <nickrud> Arrick, ps -A | grep vnc
[05:53] <backgen> nickrud: ah ha! well this is my crappy intergrated graphics card then:  Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:53] <Thornsberry> Could someone help me really quick?  I'm new to Linux and I was having problems with my Internet yesterday.  Usually in Windows I'd use the command prompt and use ipconfig /release followed by ipconfig /renew and that will solve the problem.  Could someone help me figure out the commands for that in Linux?
[05:54] <maddash> Thornsberry: ifup/ifdown [interface]
[05:54] <nickrud> backgen, I've never played with that one, but I think you can go to system->preferences->appearance and on the last tab, turn on desktop effects
[05:54] <Arrick> it didnt return anything but a prompt nickrud ?
[05:54] <nickrud> Arrick, then it's not running
[05:54] <Arrick> how do I start the one called vncserver?
[05:54] <Thornsberry> maddash, and that does the same?
[05:54] <Arrick> opr better yet, how do I make it run as a service?
[05:54] <nickrud> Arrick, don't know, never ran it :)
[05:54] <backgen> nickrud: oh ok...well i've done that...but all i've noticed that it does is that my windows go all squiggly when i move them (which is actually pretty damn cool)
[05:55] <Arrick> ok
[05:55] <Tretle> reboot after install.... third time lucky
[05:55] <Tretle> :D
[05:55] <rcomalta___> ok find i do it thanks nickrud
[05:55] <nickrud> backgen, now install compizconfig-settings-manager, there'll be a new option in preferences above appearance, and have fun)
[05:55] <maddash> Thornsberry: what exactly do you want to do, anyway?
[05:55] <nickrud> rcomalta___, you all good then?
[05:55] <maddash> Thornsberry: ipconfig /renew renews the DHCP lease, right?
[05:56] <backgen> nickrud: thanks! do you think my graphics card can support it though?
[05:56] <Thornsberry> maddash, I believe so.
[05:56] <maddash> Thornsberry: if you just need a new dhcp lease, then 'dhclient [intf]'
[05:56] <david__> nok nick i find it
[05:56] <Ose> What's the command to show the ID of everything? Something -A I think..
[05:56] <nickrud> backgen, compiz doesn't take a lot, it does
[05:56] <Tretle> i think he wants to repair the conection
[05:56] <david__> rcomalta thanks
[05:56] <maddash> Ose: processes? ps aux
[05:56] <Thornsberry> maddash, I tried the dhclient and it said that permission is denied.
[05:56] <Ose> maddash: That's the one. I had a different command that gave this but.. That works. Thanks.
[05:57] <zigui>  how i can save the new values in this file  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ trip_points  ?
[05:57] <backgen> nickrud: ok...so wait am i supposed to type "install compizconfig-settings-manager" in Terminal?
[05:57] <nickrud> Ose, another one that's pretty cool is pstree , I think you have to install it
[05:57] <Thornsberry> maddash, I tried to go to the root by using: su root and it doesn't work whenever I try it.
[05:57] <nickrud> backgen, sudo aptitude <what you just typed>
[05:57] <Ose> nickrud: I'll try that.. THis one isn't organized to my liking. But it was yet another. Haha.
[05:57] <maddash> Thornsberry: if you want to root, then it's plain old 'su'
[05:57] <Tretle> right............ so  tried installing ubuntu without security updates and now getting error 22: no such partition
[05:58] <nickrud> Ose, and htop for a different view, you need to install that one also
[05:58] <maddash> Thornsberry: in this case, the one-liner would be: 'su -c "dhclient [intf]" '
[05:58] <backgen> nickrud: :D my god i love Terminal
[05:58] <Thornsberry> maddash, every time I try that I get "su: Authentication failure Sorry."
[05:58] <Thornsberry> It asks for my password which I put in and it never works for some reason.
[05:58] <Ose> nickrud: pstree works - cool. But it doesn't show IDs.
[05:59] <maddash> Thornsberry: you need the ROOT pwd, not your own user/pwd.
[05:59] <maddash> Ose: forget pstree. 'ps auxf'
[05:59] <MyOriginalAlias> pegasus: TY very much, now after I have that package installed how do I install the desklet I downloaded? do I extract the tar.gz and then..
[05:59] <MyOriginalAlias> did i get disconnected?
[05:59] <Thornsberry> maddash, Oh, well how do I get that?
[05:59] <maddash> Thornsberry: you never set your root password?
[05:59] <EdwardXP> i was wondering is there an easier way to get port numbers on ubunut terminal?
[05:59] <Thornsberry> maddash, I don't believe so.  If I did it would have been the same password as the one I'm typing in that isn't working.
[05:59] <maddash> Thornsberry: then how'd you install ubuntu?
[05:59] <Ose> maddash: Is there a way to just.. Search for the pid of a proccess? A specific one.
[06:00] <Arrick> anyone here happen to know how to start vncserver on the current version?
[06:00] <maddash> Ose: pgrep.
[06:00] <nickrud> maddash, oh, thats nice
[06:00] <Thornsberry> maddash, I didn't use a different password but it won't work now.
[06:00] <Ose> maddash: Awesome. Thanks.
[06:00] <EdwardXP> i was wondering is there an easier way to get port numbers on ubunut terminal ..............
[06:00] <Thornsberry> maddash, is there a way that I could reset it without reinstalling?
[06:00] <Ose> maddash: Well that didn't fix that problem.. Happen to know anything about amarok? Won't even load anymore.
[06:00] <maddash> Thornsberry: then...install sudo? either that, or pray to the ubuntu deity for wisdom?
[06:01] <nickrud> !sudo | Thornsberry
[06:01] <ubotu> Thornsberry: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:01] <warriorf2rgod> Arrick: I just use vnc -geometry yyyyxyyyy on the command line
[06:01] <nickrud> lol
[06:01] <maddash> nickrud: if you paid attention, you'd see that his problem lies in not knowing his root pwd.
[06:01] <nickrud> EdwardXP, what port numbers?
[06:01] <EdwardXP> i am trying to get pidgin ports, and vnc
[06:01] <nickrud> maddash, if he did a standard install, he never had the option
[06:02] <nickrud> EdwardXP,   sudo netstat -tlp
[06:02] <maddash> nickrud: the ubuntu installer doesn't ask to set the root password??
[06:02] <david__> Any one a here have web server can help me
[06:02] <nickrud> maddash, nope :)
[06:02] <crdlb> Arrick: use vino if you want to access an ubuntu desktop system (system>prefs>remote desktop)
[06:02] <maddash> Thornsberry: which ubun2 is this?
[06:02] <Thornsberry> maddash, I'm using the newest, I think 7.10 if I'm not mistaken.
[06:02] <backgen> Wow Compiz is amazing! although i have no clue how to operate most of it's features...is there somewhere in it where it tells you how to do a certain thing (like for example the Enhanced Zoom Desktop)
[06:03] <nickrud> maddash, it's set to a hash that cannot be matched by any keystroke combo
[06:03] <crdlb> backgen: join #compiz-fusion and see the compiz fusion wiki: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org
[06:03] <backgen> crdlb: thanks!
[06:03] <maddash> Thornsberry: sorry. assuming that sudo is installed by default, 'sudo su', then 'passwd'
[06:04] <david__> if any one have web server on ubuntu let me know i need help
[06:04] <warriorf2rgod> david__: What's the trouble?
[06:04] <david__> warrir i need to do web server from where can i start
[06:04] <Thornsberry> maddash, That worked to get to the root.
[06:05] <warriorf2rgod> david__: Do you have a copy of the 7.10 server cd?
[06:05] <Thornsberry> maddash, thanks, I'm just new to Linux, I've used it for maybe 5 days and I'm still trying to figure out my way around the terminal.
[06:05] <david__> warrior how can i check wich ver i have
[06:05] <Arrick> crdlb Im accessing from windows boxes
[06:05] <MasterShrek> david__: type: lsb-release -a     in a terminal i think
[06:05] <david__> yes 7.10 i have
[06:06] <warriorf2rgod> david__: Do you currently have the system up and running?
[06:06] <EdwardXP> how do i get netstat to look for a specific program for me and monitor it all the time
[06:06] <david__> yes i am on it x chat
[06:06] <warriorf2rgod> david__: Ok.  Sounds like you installed the desktop version.  Just a sec.
[06:06] <crdlb> Arrick: that doesn't matter, vino is just a vnc server
[06:08] <_blitz_> is there a c++ compiler in linux that has an integrated developing environment?
[06:08] <kahrytan> _blitz_➲  there is plenty
[06:08] <Arrick> rofl, you know what crdlb ? I already knew that, because I did an install a couple weeks ago, and it totally slipped my mind
[06:08] <Arrick> thanks
[06:08] <zetheroo> how do I get the printers to work over the network? it was so simple in Feisty......
[06:08] <nickrud> _blitz_, anjuta , kdevelop are popular ide's
[06:08] <crdlb> :)
[06:08] <kahrytan> _blitz_➲  plenty of IDEs. just use GCC for compiling.
[06:09] <warriorf2rgod> david__: Best way to do it is to download the 7.10 server cd and install with it.  After install type sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop at command line.  This will ensure all need programs are in place.
[06:09] <warriorf2rgod> david__: s/ubuntu desktop/ubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <_blitz_> okay
[06:09] <Arrick> crdlb the only thing I didnt like was the fact that I couldnt let others connect to my desktop, and show them something, is there a way around that?
[06:09] <david__> warrior i can do on this
[06:09] <maddash> nickrud: 'sudo -i'? canonical in place of what?
[06:09] <nickrud> warriorf2rgod, all he needs is to install apache2 on his desktop install and he's good to go
[06:10] <nickrud> maddash, rather than having people set a root password
[06:10] <crdlb> Arrick: what do you mean?
[06:10] <warriorf2rgod> david__: What nickrud said
[06:10] <david__> what warrior
[06:10] <crdlb> Arrick: you can allow view only if you want
[06:10] <warriorf2rgod> david__: open up terminal and type sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:10] <maddash> nickrud: if you think about it, sudo isn't more secure than su
[06:10] <Arrick> crdlb last time I ran it with the rdp setup like you said to, anytime someone else logged in under my name, to watch what I was doing, it logged me out and let them in
[06:10] <Arrick> how do i make it where its a shared session
[06:11] <maddash> nickrud: in fact, sudo is a potential security hole.
[06:11] <crdlb> Arrick: that's not how vino works
[06:11] <crdlb> it lets you see the current session
[06:11] <Arrick> thats what i want though
[06:11] <Arrick> yeah, but only one person logged in at a time
[06:11] <maddash> nickrud: interesting, though. I didn't know about -i.
[06:11] <nickrud> maddash, like I said, I'm agnostic. I used sudo in debian long before I heard of ubuntu to protect myself from repeating a really stupid error I once made. I've heard it said that if root has no password, a brute forcer needs to know a username as well as forcing a password
[06:12] <Arrick> ahh, i got it crdlb nevermind
[06:12] <havoc_> how would you install world of war craft
[06:12] <Arrick> thanks for the hint
[06:12] <maddash> nickrud: how hard is it to 'cat /etc/passwd'?
[06:12] <Arrick> later all
[06:12] <nickrud> maddash, :)
[06:13] <gonzoism> i don't want to play this game any more.
[06:13] <maddash> gonzoism: you mean ubuntu?
[06:14] <alecwh> I want to install 'peacock html editor', however, I have no idea how. apt-get install peacock doesn't work, and the .deb says I need "gtkhtml3.6". Can someone guide me through getting it working?
[06:14] <warriorf2rgod> alecwh: Open up synaptic and search for peaccok
[06:14] <warriorf2rgod> s/peaccok/peacock
[06:14] <maddash> alecwh: 'apt-cache search cock'
[06:14] <maddash> s/cock/peacock/g geez
[06:15] <Ezep> Anyone could help me configuring my CMI8330 sound card?
[06:15] <gonzoism> maddash no.  i was just talking shit.  ubuntu is definitely the best distro out.  but i'm pretty sure i'm gonna go back to $LFS
[06:15] <warriorf2rgod> maddash: lol
[06:15] <alecwh> maddash: where should I paste the output?
[06:15] <david__> how can i chekc if appache 2 is on my ubutuut
[06:15] <kahrytan> !o4o
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[06:15] <saverycalpoly> Trying to install Ubuntu. I have resized my NTFS partition and want to install on the empty partition. How to do make sure that Ubuntu installs on the new empty partition and not my NTFS partition?
[06:15] <nickrud> alecwh, peacock is dead software, it even uses the old 1.x gnome libs
[06:15] <kahrytan> !offtopic
[06:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:15] <warriorf2rgod> david__: look under /etc/init.d and see if apache2 is listed
[06:15] <alecwh> nickrud: Yes, but it still works.
[06:16] <alecwh> nickrud: And it's just want I need
[06:16] <Tretle> when creating a partition in the partition manager what does the begining end options do?
[06:16] <david__> warrior etc/int.d where is this
[06:16] <nickrud> alecwh, ah, well you'd probably have to compile it.
[06:16] <warriorf2rgod> david__: you can also try opening up a browser and typing http:/localhost in the addreess bar
[06:16] <Ezep> Anyone could help me configuring my CMI8330 sound card?
[06:16] <alecwh> nickrud: Is there something similar?
[06:16] <alecwh> to peacock*
[06:16] <OldSpice> i need help setting up my partitions. installing ubuntu on 15gb unallocated space. how do i partition this? i already have two primary partitions used by windows.
[06:17] <crimsun> Ezep: what sort of configuration?
[06:17] <david__> ok it is
[06:17] <nickrud> alecwh, the only reasonable one I've heard of is kompozer
[06:17] <derenrich> #!/bin/sh
[06:17] <maddash> alecwh: first, you don't paste the output. you look through it. like google results.
[06:17] <gonzoism> david__ you can locate apache too:  locate apache |grep bin   and  locate httpd |grep bin
[06:17] <nickrud> !info kompozer
[06:17] <ubotu> kompozer: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.10-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8510 kB, installed size 26160 kB
[06:17] <Ezep> crimsun: mmm, udev could not "make" a device :S
[06:17] <derenrich> what's the difference between halt and powerdown?
[06:17] <david__> ok
[06:17] <david__> i do localhost it is here
[06:17] <Flannel> OldSpice: Partition it however you'd like (the installer can do it), they can be extended, primary, whatever; linux doesn't care.
[06:17] <alecwh> maddash: ok, peacock html doesn't look like it's listed.
[06:17] <alecwh> !html
[06:17] <maddash> alecwh: 2nd, allow me to introduce you to the beautiful emma alvarez: http://www.emmaalvarez.com/2007/12/top-best-50-ubuntu-opensource.html
[06:17] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[06:17] <Ezep> I dunno what happen, i downloaded a package that have alsaconf, and nothing crimsun
[06:18] <alecwh> maddash: =D
[06:18] <david__> back to work i will see all to night frends
[06:18] <Flannel> saverycalpoly: Just do a manual partition and partition the unallocated space, and make sure you dont delete the XP one
[06:18] <OldSpice> flannel: okay thank you, i been trying to do this all day, and looks like i finally can.
[06:18] <david__> thank you rely thank you for help
[06:18] <CoasterMaster> derenrich, when the CPU halts, it stops executing programs....shutdown is when it is actually turned off (usually the CPU is halted before shutdown)
[06:18] <warriorf2rgod> david__: np
[06:18] <derenrich> ah ok
[06:18] <derenrich> thanks
[06:18] <saverycalpoly> thanks flannel
[06:18] <maddash> alecwh: towards the middle, under, "Web Design"
[06:18] <crimsun> Ezep: don't use alsaconf unless you run 8.04/hardy
[06:19] <Ezep> crimsun: k, but.. how could i configure it?
[06:19] <crimsun> Ezep: are you passing the correct parameters to modprobe snd-cmi8330?
[06:19] <alecwh> maddash: is Amaya any good?
[06:19] <Ezep> crimsun: I tryied it without parameters, and snd-cmipnp too
[06:19] <maddash> alecwh: who am I to judge?
[06:19] <Ezep> crimsun: how could i know the parameters? :S
[06:20] <alecwh> maddash: heh, ok, I'll try it out (and I'll let you know if you want)
[06:20] <heartsblood> Ever since the December release of moblock-nfq I've had lan trouble.  I can't ping or connect to any computer on my lan (even my router) and I have whiteout IPs listed as 192.168.1.0/24.  Any ideas?
[06:20] <crimsun> Ezep: ...why snd-cmipci?  That's not the correct driver.
[06:20] <Ose> What's the command to force a reinstall? I broke Amarok..
[06:20] <crimsun> Ezep: if you have access to another OS, find the parameters there.
[06:20] <nickrud> maddash, that is a great list, I hadn't even heard of most of them. Thanks for the link
[06:21] <Ezep> crimsun: like windows?
[06:21] <alecwh> maddash: seconded.
[06:21] <mike_> hey in the compiz settings manager for the key commands what the hell does <super> mean?
[06:21] <Geoffrey2> can fdisk give partition information on an unmounted drive?
[06:22] <crimsun> Ezep: sure, or a knoppix iso, or ...
[06:22] <maddash> Ose: 'aptitude reinstall [package blah]'?
[06:22] <alecwh> mike_: it's like the windows logo on the keyboard.
[06:22] <alecwh> Usually next to Alt and Control
[06:22] <Ezep> crimsun: It rare, i have 2 sound cards, in windows I use the non-integrated soundblaster, but in linux i hadn't it, so i try to configure the integrated :S
[06:22] <maddash> Geoffrey2: yes. /dev/devicename.
[06:22] <Billy> how do I open compiz setting window in Ubuntu 7.1
[06:22] <estupendocero> Sounds don't work in pidgin. I'm asking here instead of in #pidgin because this is an out-of-th-box problem in a fresh install. What should I check?
[06:22] <Germ77> ah ok thanks, should scratch the windows logo off of it haha
[06:22] <EdwardXP> how do you create a terminal that types slowly the information you distribute to it?
[06:22] <oddd> is anyone here good with gstreamer?
[06:23] <alecwh> Germ77: probably a good idea. =)
[06:23] <Geoffrey2> sigh...why does it seem there's never a simple way to do anything when it comes to computers
[06:23] <Ose> maddash: I should've guessed that... Still didn't fix it. Damn. Know anything about Amarok?
[06:23] <maddash> Ose: did you see aptitude do the reinstalling?
[06:23] <jahlin> i just compiled madwifi!
[06:24] <Germ77> hmmm dont think thats what I was looking for, saw someone had their windows set to burn when closing and opening, is that in compiz or something else?
[06:24] <Ose> maddash: Yeah
[06:24] <maddash> Geoffrey2: `aptitude install hwinfo`
[06:24] <Geoffrey2> well, I guess if there was, there wouldn't be any need for computer techs...so I probably shouldn't complain...too much... :)
[06:24] <oddd> can anyone spot what is wrong with this: "gst-launch   avimux name="mux" ! filesink location="out.avi"   filesrc location="file.mov" ! decodebin name="demux"   { demux. ! queue ! ffmpegcolorspace ! ffenc_mpeg2video ! queue ! mux. }  {demux. ! queue ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! ffenc_mp2 ! queue ! mux. }"
[06:24] <alecwh> Ose: Maybe you should delete all settings/config files too? .amarok in your ~
[06:24] <maddash> Geoffrey2: then use hwinfo to figure out which /dev entry belongs to your unmounted drive.
[06:24] <nickrud> Germ77, yes, in the animate section of ccsm. But if you're exploring compiz, you should ask about it on #compiz-fusion
[06:24] <Billy> guys ...... what is the command to open compiz setting in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[06:24] <maddash> Ose: no clue, then.
[06:24] <Germ77> ah thanks ill check that channel
[06:25] <maddash> Ose: #amarok
[06:25] <SpookyET> How do you go back to the previous Flash version? They changed it to blend in with browsers better, as the blog claims, but it freezes like a biatch. Whatever they changed, it's not ready yet.
[06:25] <nickrud> Billy, system-prefs-advanced desktop settings , if you don't see it install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:26] <Ose> maddash/alecwh: Thanks. And I couldn't find my config files.. I'll look around some moer.
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> what I'm trying to do is simply boot up a linux CD so I can reapply a workaround to a kernel bug that got wiped out with the last kernel upgrade a couple days ago
[06:26] <alecwh> Ose: Uhm, are you sure? Try enabling hidden files in Nautilus.
[06:26] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, you found the option you need?
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> I've got DSL booted up now...now I just need to get it to mount my SATA drive...somehow
[06:27] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, as root , mount /dev/sd<whatever> -t ext2  /mnt
[06:27] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, well, if I can mount the drive, I should be able to look at the menu.lst backup and copy the command over....
[06:27] <simion314> hi, i turned on my laptop but i do not used so ths screen saver started,the default black screen saver. When i try to use the laptop now the screen is black, if i drag the mouse over an area the descktop becomes visible. My solution is to change to the other descktop. Is this a known bug?
[06:28] <adv> anyone got an idea for a name for a picture to ascii program?
[06:28] <jahlin_> i just compiled madwifi,  used modprobe ath_pci to load the driver module, and i get no errors but the device still isn't listed in dmesg
[06:28] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, I don't remember if it was you, but you can have it added to any new kernel by looking for the #defopts= line in the menu.lst and adding the option there
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, it was
[06:28] <Ose> alecwh: Not sure where that is in Dolphin.. I'm looking in terminal though so they should be there, right?
[06:29] <PirateHead> Is there a way to import my email history into Thunderbird?
[06:29] <HiddenBek> Hi people.  I'm in a bit of a jam.  My laptop's bios suddenly stopped recognizing my harddrive.   The ubuntu install CD finds it just fine, but I'm unable to boot from my hard drive.  I'd like to use the root= kernel option to load up my hd partition while booting from the ubuntu install cd, but I can't remember how to go about doing that.
[06:29] <Myrtti> PirateHead: from where
[06:29] <PirateHead> It just connects to the server and says "no new messages", but I want it to pull in my old messages.
[06:29] <Ose> alecwh: Found it, nevermind.
[06:29] <alecwh> Ose, I... don't know... I don't use the terminal much for file browsing.
[06:29] <PirateHead> Myrtti: From my Gmail.
[06:29] <alecwh> Ose: ok.
[06:29] <maddash> simion314: rephrase?
[06:29] <HiddenBek> Simply adding root=/dev/sda2 to the list of boot opts on the CD dosen't seem to do it.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple.
[06:29] <jahlin_> hi
[06:29] <Myrtti> PirateHead: perhaps by using imap?
[06:29] <raddy> nickrud: i used that command and it overwrote xorg file, but still same problem :(
[06:29] <morphles> when i change something in conpizconfig settings manager i dont see it affecting compiz in any way, why this could be happening?
[06:30] <Myrtti> PirateHead: I'm not sure what you mean
[06:30] <Myrtti> PirateHead: but that would be closest bet
[06:30] <alecwh> Ose: report back and see if deleting worked
[06:30] <alecwh> Ose: please.
[06:30] <PirateHead> Myrtti: I decided that I want to have a copy of my email on my computer, using Thunderbird, instead of relying entirely on webmail.
[06:30] <nickrud> raddy, ok, paste a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the new xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:30] <EdwardXP> >> this command line does some crazy things....    cat /dev/sda
[06:30] <PirateHead> Myrtti: So, I set up Thunderbird. But it's not pulling in any of my old emails.
[06:30] <vasuvi> I'm going to be getting a new G92 graphics card soon that currently needs beta nVidia drivers to run; what's the easiest way to make Ubuntu use the beta drivers instead of the release drivers for nVidia?
[06:30] <Myrtti> PirateHead: by using pop?
[06:31] <PirateHead> Myrtti: Yes.
[06:31] <maddash> EdwardXP: don't do that
[06:31] <alecwh> PirateHead: that usually has to do with the server. Are you using gmail?
[06:31] <nickrud> local imap stores are the bomb, no more worrying about email clients
[06:31] <Geoffrey2> fdisk -l /dev/sda returns "Cannot open /dev/sda"
[06:31] <PirateHead> alecwh: Yes, using gmail.
[06:31] <maddash> Geoffrey2: b/c you're not root?
[06:31] <EdwardXP> i want to display the hard drive space in one line
[06:31] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, it'll be sda1 or sda2 or whatever, the number is the partition number
[06:31] <alecwh> PirateHead: You'll need to login to your gmail account, go to settings, POP and SMTP (or something like that), and "download all messages".
[06:31] <alecwh> Then retry on thunderbird.
[06:31] <alecwh> and that might not be exactly the wording.
[06:31] <maddash> nickrud: fdisk, man. **fdisk**
[06:31] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, erm, didn't read carefully
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> maddash, how do I become root?  using sudo?
[06:32] <maddash> Geoffrey2: dig deep into the dirt.
[06:32] <alecwh> Geoffrey2: Yes.
[06:32] <EdwardXP> How do i display the Hard drive space in one line  in terminal
[06:32] <raddy> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48988/ contains Xorg log0
[06:32] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, don't know dsl , so can't help you troubleshoot why it doesn't recognize your drive
[06:32] <maddash> EdwardXP: df
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> how do I operate intrusion detection?
[06:32] <EdwardXP> vmstat
[06:32] <Myrtti> PirateHead: you can actually make gmail to allow you to download the whole history
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> !intrusion
[06:32] <EdwardXP> with vmstat
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intrusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <Myrtti> PirateHead: but I dislike pop
[06:33] <PirateHead> alecwh: excellent advice. It's working now.
[06:33] <maddash> EdwardXP: vmstat = VIRTUAL MEMORY status.
[06:33] <alecwh> PirateHead: For what?
[06:33] <EdwardXP> ooo
[06:33] <alecwh> PirateHead: what was your problem again
[06:33] <Myrtti> PirateHead: use imap if you can
[06:33] <Ose> alecwh: Strangely enough.. There is no .amarok there. I see .kde, .mozilla, etc, but no amarok. I just completely removed it and installed it again and it worked.
[06:33] <alecwh> oh.
[06:33] <Myrtti> PirateHead: it's far more useful than pop
[06:33] <PirateHead> alecwh: gmail wasn't letting me download my old mail.
[06:33] <EdwardXP> noo maddash
[06:33] <EdwardXP> it does cpu activity as well
[06:33] <alecwh> Ose: great. PirateHead: ok.
[06:33] <PirateHead> Myrtti: Yeah, imap is cool, but I just want to pull my whole history in, which is basically what pop is designed for.
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> all I want to do is fix an entry in menu.lst, you'd think that wouldn't be too hard, but first I have to be able to boot something that will let me...so far, no dice
[06:34] <EdwardXP> and disk information
[06:34] <raddy> nickrud:  new xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48989/
[06:34] <Ose> alecwh: But apparently it still doesn't like my collection.. Moment I click that tab it crashes. Fun! Off to #amarok..
[06:34] <alecwh> Ose: good luck.
[06:34] <Myrtti> PirateHead: sure, but if you actually plan to *use* thunderbird to send and receive gmail, pop's not the answer
[06:35] <simion314> maddash: where can i upload a picture, an image makes more then 1000 words?
[06:35] <maddash> EdwardXP: but not disk space
[06:35] <maddash> simion314: imageshack.us
[06:35] <PirateHead> Myrtti: Can't I just use pop and imap?
[06:35] <PirateHead> Myrtti: Can't I just use pop and smpt, I mean?
[06:35] <PirateHead> smtp. I can type, I swearz.
[06:35] <EdwardXP> vmstat -D
[06:36] <EdwardXP> i think that works
[06:36] <maddash> there is no '-D'...
[06:36] <EdwardXP> i just did it
[06:36] <Wutz> Hello, I have a huge problem with my ati driver, can anyone help?
[06:36] <Geoffrey2> ok, any other suggestions on what I could try booting that would know what to do with a SATA drive?
[06:36] <EdwardXP> ur crazy local
[06:36] <raddy> nickrud : are you there?
[06:36] <maddash> hm, we have a man page bug
[06:37] <alecwh> I'm looking for a simple application, that will let me compose basic HTML (no styling, just straight HTML) that is standards compliant. Any ideas? =P
[06:37] <Bjornalf> i have some evolution questions.. first which junkmail filter is better? Bogofilter or Spamassasin?
[06:37] <mikeooo> man lol anyone use ubuntu with seemless virtualisation rdesktop
[06:37] <nickrud> raddy, yup, looking this over. I think I've met my match on this log.
[06:38] <mikeooo> i ran quicktime with a 720p trailer over rdp and it actually played
[06:38] <mikeooo> running quicktime in xp
[06:38] <derenrich> what's the proper command to use to shutdown a pc over ssh?
[06:38] <Flannel> derenrich: `sudo shutdown -h now`
[06:38] <derenrich> ok
[06:38] <derenrich> thanks
[06:38] <mikeooo> the 480p is almost watchable
[06:38] <maddash> raddy: what exactly is wrong?
[06:39] <maddash> derenrich: sudo halt.
[06:39] <raddy> maddash : gdm is started in lower resolution
[06:40] <Geoffrey2> is it still possible to get Ubuntu 7.04 from somewhere?
[06:40] <maddash> raddy: so add an additional screenres to your xorg.conf?
[06:40] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: all over the place, yeah.
[06:40] <alecwh> Geoffrey2: why?
[06:40] <Bjornalf> can anyone help with evolution or is there another channel to ask in?
[06:40] <raddy> maddash : that is?
[06:40] <EdwardXP> im trying to text together cal, whoami, id >> 1
[06:40] <alecwh> Geoffrey2: I'm sure there are torrents up.
[06:40] <EdwardXP> and i can't get them all in
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> so maybe, possibly, I can actually use my desktop computer again....
[06:41] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> which Ubuntu is currently locking me out of
[06:41] <maddash> raddy: bah. forget that. your problem is that gdm displays at a different res than after you login, right?
[06:41] <maddash> EdwardXP: 'text together'?
[06:41] <EdwardXP> yah
[06:41] <EdwardXP> i mean for instatn
[06:41] <EdwardXP> cal >> 1
[06:42] <EdwardXP> and when i type in cat 1 i get the calendar
[06:42] <alecwh> Geoffrey2: keep in mind, 7.04 will still be updated for awhile.
[06:42] <raddy> maddash : after login, i have configured screen resolution app to set higher resolution,
[06:42] <maddash> EdwardXP: in plain english, what do you want to do?
[06:42] <EdwardXP> but i want to do, cal & time & date & whoami >> 1
[06:42] <EdwardXP> when i do cat 1 i get cal only...
[06:42] <maddash> EdwardXP: 'echo `cal` `time` ...'?
[06:43] <EdwardXP> but in a document
[06:43] <gdreamweaver> all i want to do is get my sigmatel audio to work....
[06:43] <maddash> EdwardXP: 'echo `cal` `time` ... >> 1'?
[06:43] <EdwardXP> i think i'll try that one :)
[06:43] <maddash> raddy: the problem is with gdm, not X.
[06:43] <maddash> raddy: so play around with /etc/gdm{.conf,/gdm.conf,etc}
[06:43] <Ose> alecwh: Amarok settings are under ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok - for future reference. And that did work, thanks.
[06:44] <alecwh> Ose: good to know, thanks for reporting back.
[06:44] <_nix_> EdwardXP: that would be echo "`cal`" "`date`" "`whoami`" >> file
[06:44] <maddash> EdwardXP: with out the " " "
[06:44] <Geoffrey2> alecwh, I actually already have 7.10 installed, and it works fine...it's just that when the last kernel upgrade came down the pike, it overwrite my menu.lst file, erasing the kernel option I need to make the thing boot
[06:44] <gdreamweaver> anyone have the problem where their audio device is recognized but they don't get any sound?
[06:45] <EdwardXP> i get permission denied
[06:45] <jones> !awn
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, I've seen that on a different HP laptop than mine.
[06:45] <_nix_> EdwardXP: are u using sudo to >> output?
[06:45] <gdreamweaver> im on a dell inspiron
[06:45] <jones> anyone know how to change the menu applet icon in awn?
[06:45] <maddash> EdwardXP: because you're trying to write somewhere that you're not allowed?
[06:45] <dfeeser> is anyone here running Ubuntu Studio 7.10?  If so, how do like it compared to regular Ubuntu?
[06:45] <_nix_> yeah.. that too
[06:46] <maddash> 'studio'?
[06:46] <simion314> hi, about my Bug, this is a image: http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/simion314/Screenshot.png
[06:46] <_nix_> dfeeser: rt-kernel and more multimedia apps.. that's all
[06:46] <davidthedrake> dfeeser, A friend of mine runs it and loves the list of apps available.
[06:46] <Geoffrey2> alecwh, there's a conflict between the new kernel series and something on my motherboard that causes Ubuntu to crash on bootup, and the kernel option makes it work...so, all I really want to do is load up a minimal O/S that'll let me mount my hard drive, fix the menu.lst file, then reboot...sounds simple, right? :)
[06:46] <EdwardXP> no
[06:46] <maddash> simion314: cool.
[06:46] <davidthedrake> dfeeser, However, it's nothing above and beyond a normal Ubuntu install with some stuff included.
[06:46] <_nix_> dfeeser: that plumbing is the same
[06:46] <EdwardXP> maddash,  just home
[06:46] <nickrud> that is an ugly screen
[06:46] <gdreamweaver> i see my device in alsamixer, but i get no sound at ALL! im getting frustrated
[06:46] <Filled-Void> ANyone here who knows why icons wouldnt work on AWN? That I get the regular icons on AWN while the other icons are being used on the menus etc
[06:47] <dfeeser> i see
[06:47] <Ganjaman23> someone stole my window buttons?
[06:47] <alecwh> Geoffrey2: ah. I don't know much about that sort of stuff, but good luck.
[06:47] <maddash> EdwardXP: no clue. retry the echo command with a full path.
[06:47] <raddy> maddash : i found the problem, but not the solution, the problem is gdm is trying to set a resolution, my monitor is not setting the resolution at first attempt,
[06:47] <_nix_> dfeeser: you may want to install the linux-rt package to check out the other kernel
[06:47] <Ganjaman23> those _ and X at the upper right
[06:47] <dfeeser> _nix_: is there much of a benefit to this kernel?
[06:47] <maddash> raddy: didn't I already tell you that the problem resides in gdm?
[06:48] <_nix_> dfeeser: dunno.. some kind of new schedular is included from a guy called Molar Ingo
[06:48] <Geoffrey2> that's the only real downside I find to linux....finding someone to answer your question on a given topic is a pure crap shoot most of the time
[06:48] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, the single best recovery disk out there is knoppix , you really should add it to your toolkit.
[06:48] <maddash> simion314: so that's what happens after you jump out of xscreensaver?
[06:48] <_nix_> dfeeser: that's supposed to speed up things on multicore machines
[06:48] <Ganjaman23> yeah 2.6.24 january or so
[06:48] <Bjornalf> which junk filer for evolution is better and/or easier to configure?
[06:48] <EdwardXP> maddash,  you know when you do cal >> 1 .. and than you cat 1 and you get the calendar' -- i wanna try and get em' all like cal, id, whoami, all in one
[06:48] <davidthedrake> Geoffrey2, you would prefer maybe waiting on hold for 45 minutes to speak to someone who asks if you've tried to restart your computer?
[06:48] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, you simply need root access to mount that drive, or to fdisk it
[06:49] <dfeeser> _nix_: i see.  I doubt I would see much of an improvement since I am running a single core Intel.
[06:49] <Ganjaman23> ok im new to gnome and i lost the buttons from the screen
[06:49] <EdwardXP> maddash,  so when i cat it.. i get all the present information
[06:49] <dfeeser> appreciate the info though
[06:49] <simion314> maddash: yes
[06:49] <maddash> EdwardXP: scroll up.
[06:49] <_nix_> dfeeser: I wouldn't know how to benchmark that anyway.. sure
[06:49] <EdwardXP> save me from typing a lot of commands
[06:49] <maddash> simion314: then disable xscreensaver?
[06:49] <alecwh> is it possible to get additional visualizations for Totem?
[06:49] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, so far I've tried a System Rescue CD, and now I'm trying the DSL live CD....
[06:50] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, never tried those, but if you can get a root terminal ...
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> ok, what's the sudo option to get root access?
[06:50] <simion314> maddash: i belive i must send a bug report
[06:50] <EdwardXP> maddash, it works:)
[06:50] <gdreamweaver> davethedrake: any advice on what i should do in order to get sound...i feel retarded since alsamixer "sees" it but its still not good to go
[06:50] <maddash> EdwardXP: yes, scrolling usually works.
[06:50] <simion314> maddash: but maybe this is known i will search
[06:50] <maverickAlex> Geoffrey2: sudo -i
[06:50] <maddash> simion314: you could, but for the near future, disable x screensaver
[06:50] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, sudo -i  . But, does dsl use sudo?  Open a terminal, type whoami
[06:51] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, have you ever had sound?
[06:51] <Bjornalf> gdreamweaver: is the PCM channel muted in alsamixer?
[06:51] <EdwardXP> i guess that echo cmd works i thought something else,  -- how about addingh spacers in this thing, when i cat it.. its all bundled together
[06:51] <EdwardXP> maddash,  is that asking too much?
[06:51] <maddash> simion314: if you just need to darken your screen, 'xset dpms force off'
[06:51] <gdreamweaver> davidthedrake: just in XP...
[06:51] <Ganjaman23> i need the buttons again
[06:51] <_nix_> EdwardXP: that what the "" were for.. try echo "`cal`"
[06:51] <maddash> simion314: blank*, not darken.
[06:51] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, I see, and you've double-clicked on the sound icon and ensured that everything is turned up
[06:51] <maddash> _nix_: " isn't necessary. this is bash, not javascript.
[06:51] <gdreamweaver> david: yessir
[06:52] <nickrud> Ganjaman23, can you move the windows around the screen with the mouse?
[06:52] <_nix_> maddash: but without it the output is bundled in one line
[06:52] <Dark> I have a question...I just installed 7.10 (32bit), and I am unable to connect to the internet...PLEASE HELP
[06:52] <_nix_> maddash: might try it urself
[06:52] <gdreamweaver> bjorn: pcm is turned all the way up
[06:52] <maddash> _nix_: I think the whole point is to get it into one line
[06:53] <_nix_> maddash: oh.. k.. didn't knew that
[06:53] <Geoffrey2> ok, mount would be something like mount /dev/sda1 -t ext2 /mnt/mydrive ?
[06:53] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, yes, but you don't need mydrive , /mnt should already be there
[06:54] <maddash> _nix_: nvm, you're right. now I see what EdwardXP meant by, "spacers."
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, I'd actually want to mount the drive AS /mnt?
[06:54] <maddash> EdwardXP: use quotes, as _nix_ showed you.
[06:54] <_nix_> maddash: :-)
[06:54] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, yes, when you cd /mnt you will see the ubuntu filesystem
[06:54] <gdreamweaver> dave: i think it might be something having to do with what ubuntu sees as the default device for sound
[06:55] <gdreamweaver> dave: it has my default device as INTEL but I am using a SigmaTel card
[06:55] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, Hrmm...
[06:55] <gdreamweaver> dave: any idea how I would go about changing that/
[06:55] <Geoffrey2> strange, the Rescue CD said don't ever do that because it'll freeze the whole system
[06:55] <gdreamweaver> ?*
[06:55] <Dark> Can someone please help me with my network issue?
[06:55] <nickrud> gdreamweaver, sigmatel is the hda intel chip iirc
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> well, I'll give it a shot
[06:56] <Dark> cool
[06:56] <gdreamweaver> nick: rgr
[06:56] <_nix_> Dark: try asking
[06:56] <plattypus1> I'm having trouble getting the proprietary drivers working with an ATI Radeon X1200, the card needs the latest proprietary drivers and they just won't enable DRI. Any ideas are appreciated.
[06:56] <jones> anybody know how to change the dock icon for the main menu applet in AWN? it does not have a change icon when i right click it like the others.
[06:56] <Dark> i just installed 7.10 (32 bit), and I am unable to connect to the network or internet
[06:56] <maddash> plattypus1: fglrx?
[06:56] <gdreamweaver> nick: it just doesnt make sense that i dont get sound but ubuntu seems to see it
[06:56] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, I see that others have had issues with that particular card and Ubuntu
[06:56] <maddash> !ping
[06:56] <ubotu> pong
[06:56] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, I searched for sigmatel ubuntu in Google
[06:56] <_nix_> Dark: is that ur first linux install?
[06:57] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, And found some results
[06:57] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, With some suggestions
[06:57] <gdreamweaver> dave: alright i will google it
[06:57] <plattypus1> maddash, yup. Downloaded the latest, edited my xorg, etc. etc. (I've been using linux since '03) and yet still get MESA in glxinfo
[06:57] <Dark> no...i have ubuntu installed on the box i am using to talk right now
[06:57] <gdreamweaver> dave: i didn't necessarily put sigmatel and ubuntu together
[06:57] <plattypus1> maddash, first time trying to use an ATI card with fglrx, I'm an nVidia guy mostly.
[06:57] <gdreamweaver> dave: thanks m8
[06:57] <Geoffrey2> mount tells me /dev/sda2 is not a valid block device
[06:57] <vb> I want to add the computer icon found in places in my AWN
[06:57] <maddash> plattypus1: okay. xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, please.
[06:57] <_nix_> Dark: oh.. k how do connect to the internet? router in between?
[06:57] <nickrud> gdreamweaver, once or twice, I've lost sound. (have a 3stack version). I went round and round, then on the second or third reboot it works. Works for many boots, then stops. it's a laptop, otherwise I'd get a sound card
[06:57] <davidthedrake> gdreamweaver, Sure thing, hope you find something that helps.
[06:58] <Dark> yes...desktop--router--cable modem
[06:58] <Dark> this box has no issues with it
[06:58] <Dark> but the one i just installed does
[06:59] <bazhang> what are you running on the this box Dark?
[06:59] <Dark> 7.10
[06:59] <bazhang> and the other can't get ethernet, or wireless?
[06:59] <_nix_> Dark: mind using the terminal for a while?? enter "ifconfig" to check out if you network card.. the thing your router connects with has been assigned an IP address
[06:59] <nickrud> plattypus1, I set up those new drivers once, had issues until I linked the new kernel module into volatile
[07:00] <MasterShrek> anyone know of a proggie to convert m4a's?
[07:00] <Geoffrey2> sigh.....
[07:00]  * Geoffrey2 sighs
[07:00] <maddash> MasterShrek: 'proggie'?
[07:00] <plattypus1> nickrud, HOWTO anywhere?
[07:00] <MasterShrek> :)
[07:00] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, what, no mount?
[07:00] <maddash> !fglrx
[07:00] <Dark> yeah...i have eth0 and eth1
[07:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <vb> can I add places/compuer launcher in AWN ?
[07:00] <_nix_> MasterShrek: m4a's to other formats?
[07:00] <MasterShrek> yea
[07:00] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, mount is telling me my drive is not a valid block device
[07:00] <plattypus1> maddash, xorg.conf is at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48990
[07:01] <Dark> no ip address though...only on my loopback
[07:01] <maddash> MasterShrek: ffmpeg.
[07:01] <_nix_> MasterShrek: ffmpeg is good option.. not sure of any gui though
[07:01] <Dark> and that is a 127 address which is the local one
[07:01] <nickrud> plattypus1, I used this one: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[07:01] <maddash> whoa, cool, tablet
[07:01] <_nix_> Dark: you'd have to assign an IP address to the card your router is connected with
[07:01] <plattypus1> maddash, and the Xorg.0.log is at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48991
[07:01]  * Ganjaman23 is away: (autoaway · idle 10 mins) [e! on]
[07:01] <MasterShrek> i dotn care about that, i can use command line just fine, just didnt know what to use, thx :)
[07:01] <Flannel> !away > Ganjaman23
[07:01] <Dark> i wonder why...i didnt have to on this box
[07:02] <Dark> the NIC is set up for roaming, and it works great
[07:02] <_nix_> Dark: you can try entering "sudo dhclient" for autoconfiguration
[07:02] <Dark> but on my other one...it doesnt
[07:02] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, but fdisk -l says all is ok?
[07:02] <maddash> plattypus1: you gave the same thing twice.
[07:02] <plattypus1> nickrud, I think that site's down... which really, really sucks. :)
[07:02] <plattypus1> maddash, Eeps... sorry 'bout that.
[07:02] <Dark> k...trying
[07:02] <nickrud> plattypus1, I just cut and pasted out of the location bar, never remember the page. I googled for it
[07:02] <maddash> plattypus1: anyway, it doesn't matter. change the identifier or 'aticonfig-monitor[0]' to "Default Screen"
[07:03] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, fdisk -l says it can't open anything
[07:03] <Geoffrey2> so apparently this O/S doesn't know what to do with a SATA drive either
[07:03] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, not a clue, if it doesn't see the drive ...
[07:03] <EdwardXP>  echo "`cal`" "                                      `  whoami`       << -- if i do this it spaces' out
[07:03] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, knoppix
[07:03] <Dark> it says "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[07:03] <maddash> EdwardXP: #bash.
[07:04] <plattypus1> maddash, I'll give it a shot. :)
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> I was hoping to avoid a several hour download for a 5 minute (tops) fix, but I guess I just have to bite the bullet on this one
[07:04] <maddash> plattypus1: if you do, remove the existing "Default Screen" section
[07:04] <_nix_> Dark: do you remember what IP address you used to get in the previous installations
[07:05] <plattypus1> maddash, posted the corrected log file.
[07:05] <plattypus1> 4992.
[07:05] <maddash> plattypus1: and change, "	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0" to "Screen "Default Screen" 0 0"
[07:05]  * _nix_ seriously thinks that 7.10 was _pushed_ for release.. unlike 6.06 LTS
[07:05] <Dark> i know what my "public" address is, but I have never set an IP for each of my desktops
[07:05] <plattypus1> maddash, won't that set it back to the "Generic Device" and the vesa driver?
[07:05] <Geoffrey2> of course, if I could just remember the full disable command to stick in the kernel line, I could just do that and avoid all this mess, sadly...I can't
[07:05] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, sorta like buying that crescent wrench to turn that one screw :)
[07:05] <Dark> and the previous installation on the box in question was Win XP
[07:06] <maddash> plattypus1: "if you do, remove the existing 'Default Screen' section "
[07:06] <plattypus1> maddash, Aye... your phrasing was a bit odd... sorry.
[07:06] <maddash> plattypus1: by the way, I haven't seen your log yet, but I think your problem might also be allowing composite to be enabled...
[07:07] <_nix_> Dark: oh.. k. typically, the case is like this: you->router->internet where the router handles the internet part while allowing for sharing of the connection through different interfaces.. the internal LAN interfaces.
[07:07] <gouki> Any ideas on how to remove an entire page in OO? Del and backspace don't seem to work.
[07:07] <Dark> understood....I feel like this should be cake, as I am a network engineer...lol
[07:08] <rubydiamond> how to print from terminal vim
[07:08] <Dark> for some reason i dont think it is seeing my router
[07:08] <rubydiamond> or from shell
[07:08] <_nix_> Dark: cool.. what did you have to do to connect from the XP box?
[07:08] <plattypus1> rubydiamond, lpr filename
[07:08] <banzai> hi, real player for windows is bad (very intrusive), is the linux real player equally as bad?
[07:08] <Dark> plug it in
[07:08] <nickrud> rubydiamond, lpr <filename>
[07:08] <fwaokda> im trying to get ubuntu installed on my flash drive... i've got the regular disk and it gets stuck after the loading screen. I have the alternate disk but i've just found out after 2 hrs it doesn't let me run it from the disk. how can i get ubuntu on my flash drive???
[07:08] <plattypus1> maddash, still no DRI love.
[07:08] <Dark> like i said...i didnt configure dhcp, etc...it was pretty much plug and play..same with my other ubuntu box
[07:09] <bazhang> pendrivelinux.com fwaokda
[07:09] <maddash> plattypus1: maybe I should have asked for the log first...
[07:09] <rubydiamond> plattypus1, nickrud  thanks it worked :)
[07:09] <fwaokda> bazhang: went there and followed the steps but as i said the cd hangs at a black screen so im unable to do those steps
[07:09] <plattypus1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48992 has it.
[07:09] <_nix_> Dark: right there.. maybe the dhcp autoconfig is b0rked in this new release.. you might as well go manuall for that one
[07:10] <Zorro-Zorro> hello, can i get alsa 1.0.15 drivers (precompiled)? where?
[07:10] <plattypus1> maddash, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48992
[07:10] <dORSY> gouki: try to select all the content under the page...then cut/paste it ...
[07:10] <Dark> crap
[07:10] <Dark> lol
[07:10] <plattypus1> rubydiamond, glad to help. :)
[07:10] <mindedc> anyone know if 6.06 LTS stock kernel is compiled with CONFIG_LBD for large filesystem support on 32bit platforms?
[07:10] <_nix_> Dark: :-)
[07:10] <gouki> dORSY: Yep. The page has no more content left. Still, I'm not able to delete it
[07:10] <Dark> thats odd though...its the exact same release as this box
[07:10] <dORSY> don't delete...cut everything after it...then paste it a page upper...
[07:11] <gouki> dORSY: nop :S
[07:11] <_nix_> Dark: oh.. you're invited to investigate upon that here.. welcome aboard
[07:12] <Dark> thanks
[07:12] <backgen> hey guys it's me again...so after installing compiz...now the top bits of my windows have dissapeared again...and when i type in compiz --replace....it doesn't do anything...does anyone have any suggestions?
[07:12] <dORSY> gouki: and if you have space after the last paragraph..it will begin a new page..try to reduce the space after the last paragraph
[07:12] <MyOriginalAlias> lol okay can anyone tell me howto install screenlets I cant find the package name using apt-cache
[07:12] <Dark> could it be because i have 2 interfaces on my motherborard
[07:12] <Dark> board*
[07:12] <Grandslammaster> !restricted
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <_nix_> Dark: not quite a possibility... dhcp was designed to work out of the box.
[07:13] <Dark> thats what i thought....hmmm
[07:13] <MyOriginalAlias> Grandslammaster: that was for me?
[07:13] <_nix_> Dark: regardless of any or all interfaces the broadcast came from..
[07:13] <maddash> plattypus1: this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/824959 sigue el modelo.
[07:13] <astro76> !screenlets | MyOriginalAlias
[07:13] <ubotu> MyOriginalAlias: Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[07:13] <gouki> dORSY: Also tried that. I finished at the middle of the 2nd page, however, the 3rd page was created and there is no way of getting it out of there
[07:14] <plattypus1> maddash, you just assume that I speak spanish eh? :P
[07:14] <vb> can I add a computer icon on my AWN?
[07:14] <maddash> plattypus1: mostly pay attention to "Mode         0666,"  "Option DRI true" etc.
[07:14] <backgen> does anyone know how i can get the top panes of my windows back?
[07:14] <dORSY> gouki: open anew doc...copy everything into it...
[07:14] <MyOriginalAlias> astro76: So your answer is there is no package in apt it HAS to be built manually, thats the only way to install it
[07:14] <Ganjaman23> i want my buttons back
[07:14] <Grandslammaster> no i wanted to know those urls i am having a problem geting youtube to work
[07:15] <_nix_> Dark: you may want to check out the man pages for ifconfig and route if you can get it..
[07:15] <astro76> MyOriginalAlias, not my answer, but I have also deduced that from ubotu's response
[07:15] <mindedc> I ask about CONFIG_LBD because I tried to create a 2Tb RAID 5 with XFS and while copying a few files to the new volume XFS took a dirt nap...
[07:15] <maddash> backgen: again? `x-window-manager --replace`
[07:15] <maddash> ?
[07:15] <MyOriginalAlias> astro76: well I tried building and got an error
[07:15] <Dark> looking now...i might try reseting my router to see if it will assign a IP address
[07:15] <ere4si> Grandslammaster, there is a plugin for firefox for that
[07:16] <dORSY> gouki: worked?
[07:16] <Grandslammaster> yea it dosent work
[07:16] <astro76> MyOriginalAlias, it just says: Install as usual by extracting the contents of the screenlet's archive to the directory "$HOME/.screenlets".
[07:16] <theTrav> hello.  I got a free iPod shuffle from work today.  Anyone know if there's a iTunes alternative that I can use on ubuntu?
[07:16] <astro76> MyOriginalAlias, http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/Category:UserScreenlets
[07:16] <theTrav> that will be able to connect to the ipod I should say
[07:16] <_nix_> Dark: a quick pill would be like: sudo ifconfig eth0 <internal-ip> up netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast <router-ip.last octec to 255> && sudo route add default gw <router-ip>
[07:16] <backgen> maddash: haha yes unfortunatly...ok let me try it...but then is this going to happen every time i run compiz?
[07:16] <gouki> dORSY: Can't. The document has some sort of weird protection and it scrambles everything with I try to copy-paste anything. ... this ain't easy.
[07:16] <mindedc> I didn't know if I hit a bug or if 6.06 doesn't have large filesystem support...
[07:16] <MyOriginalAlias> maybe if I install !Beryl first, anyone know the package name for Beryl?
[07:17] <plattypus1> theTrav, I'll tell you if you tell me what kind of office gives out free iPods. :)
[07:17] <backgen> maddash: oh wait if my window manager is compiz are you suggesting that i type in compiz --replace? because i've done that and it doesn't work
[07:17] <Grandslammaster> i think if you go to synaptic you can just type in ipod
[07:17] <_nix_> Dark: and lastly editing the file /etc/resolv.conf for a nameserver.. usually the router's ip goes there as well
[07:17] <theTrav> heh, ok, I got it from ANZ, the bank that I was working on my last project for
[07:17] <plattypus1> theTrav, gtkpod works well as a standalone application, and rhythmbox has good support IIRC.
[07:17] <maddash> backgen: no, verbatim
[07:17] <theTrav> they contracted us to do a fix job.  They were happy with the work
[07:17] <ere4si> Grandslammaster, the shockwave plugin here - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[07:17] <Dark> cool...thanks
[07:17] <dORSY> gouki: :o sorry i have no other guesses
[07:17] <astro76> !beryl | MyOriginalAlias
[07:17] <earlmred> man, i need a real raid5 card.
[07:17] <ubotu> MyOriginalAlias: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[07:17] <backgen> maddash: verbatim?
[07:17] <maddash> backgen: or 'metacity --replace'
[07:18] <earlmred> fucking overhead with mdraid is lame.
[07:18] <_nix_> Dark: glad if that helps.. :-)
[07:18] <gouki> dORSY: I'm out too! :S
[07:18] <theTrav> hmm, I have another thing.  I've set up my ubuntu desktop with smb sharing, however whenever my winxp client (notebook) tries to connect to it it is prompted for password and doesn't accept any
[07:18] <_nix_> Dark: glad if that helps.. :-)
[07:18] <backgen> maddash: neither metacity --replace nor compiz --replace works
[07:18] <earlmred> i'm only downloading at 1.8MB/s to the array, and my load averages are 1.5/1.6/1.5
[07:18] <fwaokda> if my laptop hangs after the loading screen(ie. blahblahblah.....    [OK]; stuff) of the ubuntu 7.10 live cd how can i get by this so i can install 7.10 on my usb drive???
[07:19] <mindedc> earlmred: my performance was actually decent w/ 3 1tb drives untill it borked itself :)
[07:19] <maddash> backgen: your current problem is the same as the last one, right?
[07:19] <my816797> Hello
[07:19] <earlmred> mindedc, i've got 4 500GB drives
[07:20] <MyOriginalAlias> astro76: interesting the readme that came in the tar.gz says to just to extract to any directory and type ¨make install¨
[07:20] <mindedc> earlmred: Oh, yeah, software RAID with IDE sucks ass for CPU ...
[07:20] <backgen> maddash: yes except this time i'm running compiz instead of metacity
[07:20] <earlmred> mindedc, it's sata2
[07:20] <Grandslammaster> ere4si: thanks
[07:20] <ere4si> Grandslammaster,  it works?
[07:20] <Geoffrey2> ok, I think I'm going to slap myself now
[07:20] <backgen> maddash: and now my Terminal is wierd, when i enter commands it doesn't do anything
[07:20] <Grandslammaster> yea
[07:20] <mindedc> earlmred: so you have 1.5 tb usable?
[07:20] <ere4si> k
[07:20] <maddash> backgen: good question. I know nothing about compiz.
[07:20] <my816797> Does anyone know if it's possible to change the Ubuntu Install CD a bit, to install Ubuntu from the CD with some default files in the /root/ folder?
[07:21] <earlmred> mindedc, yep ... /dev/md0               1.6T    17G   1.5T   2% /home
[07:21] <Geoffrey2> there's an application that allows Windows to read ext2 drives, right?
[07:21] <backgen> maddash: ok well how about when Terminal messes up and i don't have the usual line (loginname)@(computername):~$...just blank space and no commands work
[07:21] <dORSY> geofery2: total commander with plugin
[07:21] <astro76> MyOriginalAlias, sorry I've never used it myself, try asking in #compiz-fusion if no one knows here ;)
[07:21] <dORSY> geoffery2: total commander with plugin
[07:21] <maddash> Geoffrey2: ext2ifs
[07:21] <^root^> my816797, try Ubuntu Cd Customization on google
[07:22] <maddash> Geoffrey2: google 'windows ext2,' there's a freeware driver floating around
[07:22] <^root^> my816797, Ubuntu Install CD Customization
[07:22] <earlmred> mindedc, i'm running reiser on the array though, maybe that has something to do with it.
[07:22] <mindedc> earlmred: I'm SATA also, have 3 WD 1Tb drives..
[07:22] <my816797> thanks
[07:22] <xLE> how can i change the permissions on a file so it's not root only and i can copy files into it
[07:22] <my816797> I'll give it a try (been searching for hours :P)
[07:22] <mindedc> earlmred: /dev/md2              1.9T   52G  1.8T   3% /localmedia
[07:22] <astro76> xLE, you generally don't want to do that, but rather use sudo to copy files to the location
[07:22] <maddash> backgen: so you have nothing running besides a terminal?
[07:23] <^root^> my816797, i can give you exact links but you will have to wait
[07:23] <maddash> backgen: if so, ctrl+alt+bkspc
[07:23] <earlmred> mindedc, what filesystem are you using?
[07:23] <backgen> maddash: only firefox
[07:23] <dORSY> xLE: chmod 777 to a folder or chown user:group folder
[07:23] <Geoffrey2> maddash, thanks...that's the solution then...the computer is set up to dual boot, Windows and Ubuntu...so, rather than download another linux O/S, just boot up Windows, then read the file on the ext2 drive...
[07:23] <backgen> maddash: ok so should i shut down firefox and do that?
[07:23] <xLE> astro76, i created my own command for coping files.
[07:23] <MyOriginalAlias> Does anyone know how I can install beryl?
[07:23] <mindedc> earlmred: XFS... got this gem when it blew up
[07:23] <xLE> astro76, and i get sudo: command: command not found
[07:23] <mindedc> earlmred: xfs_force_shutdown(md2,0x8) called from line 1031 of file fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c.  Return address = 0xd0a7043e
[07:23] <maddash> Geoffrey2: it does reiserfs and ext3 too
[07:23] <maddash> backgen: sure, but I don't know if that will help
[07:24] <earlmred> mindedc, lol, nice ...
[07:24] <mindedc> earlmred: Filesystem "md2": Corruption of in-memory data detected.  Shutting down filesystem: md2
[07:24] <backgen> maddash: ok i'll give it a whirl
[07:24] <ere4si> my816797, try this - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[07:24] <earlmred> mindedc, that's what we called fucked in the ass.
[07:24] <^root^> my816797, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?action=show&redirect=LiveCDCustomization%2F6.06
[07:24] <quaff> does anyone know how i can check what driver is being used for my eth0? (currently in livecd)
[07:24] <mindedc> earlmred: agreed... copious lack of lube as well...
[07:24] <stdin> !language | earlmred
[07:24] <MyOriginalAlias> No one knows where to get beryl
[07:24] <ubotu> earlmred: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:24] <earlmred> bah stupid freenode language.
[07:24] <^root^> my816797, i hope that helps
[07:25] <mindedc> earlmred: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:25] <earlmred> mindedc, 7.10
[07:25] <r3n0c> can somebody hlep me install java
[07:25] <earlmred> mindedc, 64bit ... dual core 3.2GHz amd, 4GB ram, 500GB primary drive, 4x500GB md0
[07:25] <quaff> r3n0c: aptitude install java
[07:25] <mindedc> earlmred: Ah, I'm using 6.06... wonder if it's not up to speed on the larger volumes...
[07:25] <r3n0c> i want to be able to do: "javac" and "java"
[07:25] <xLE> how do i remove a directory?
[07:25] <r3n0c> quaff: error happens
[07:26] <quaff> what kind of error shows up?
[07:26] <maddash> quaff: look in /sys/class/net/eth0/
[07:26] <quaff> maddash: thanks i'll try that out
[07:26] <earlmred> r3n0c, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[07:26] <xLE> how do i remove a directory?
[07:26] <my816797> thanks guys :)
[07:26] <earlmred> xLE, rmdir directory
[07:26] <^root^> MyOriginalAlias, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634080
[07:26] <r3n0c> earlmred, brings me to the same place
[07:26] <mindedc> earlmred: I have MUCH crappier hardware... dual 1ghz p2 256 meg ram 3x1TbSATA, 2x 160 EIDE
[07:27] <earlmred> r3n0c, what place?
[07:27] <quaff> maddash: score, thanks :)
[07:27] <littlebear72> ok everyone i have somtheing thats not a question who wants to hear it its a surprise i never expected to realise about lol
[07:27] <quaff> that did the trick
[07:27] <mindedc> earlmred: This is a dedicated file server for my MP3s and dvds...
[07:27] <xLE> earlmred, i get Directory not empty?
[07:27] <r3n0c> hold
[07:27] <jxxt> MyOriginalAlias, Beryl has merged into compiz-fusion
[07:27] <earlmred> xLE, rmdir -f directory
[07:27] <earlmred> xLE, or rm -rf directory
[07:27] <r3n0c> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[07:27] <r3n0c> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[07:27] <r3n0c> JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[07:27] <r3n0c> archives:
[07:27] <r3n0c>     jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip
[07:27] <r3n0c> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[07:27] <r3n0c> Please visit
[07:27] <r3n0c>     http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/
[07:27] <r3n0c> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[07:27] <r3n0c> to /tmp.
[07:27] <r3n0c> SORRY!
[07:28] <mindedc> earlmred: Whops, meant 2x 1ghz PIII... still no 64bit...
[07:28] <xLE> invalid option
[07:28] <earlmred> r3n0c, what version ubuntu are you on
[07:28] <mindedc> xLE
[07:28] <r3n0c> 7.10
[07:28] <earlmred> xLE, rm -rf directory
[07:28] <fwaokda> :( anyone know what i can try to get ubuntu on my usb drive if the live cd hangs and im using windows?
[07:28] <earlmred> r3n0c, i just executed that just fine ...
[07:28] <xLE> ta
[07:28] <mindedc> xLE: do NOT "rm -rf /"
[07:28] <^root^> MyOriginalAlias, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608065
[07:28] <r3n0c> earlmred,  um..... balls
[07:28] <earlmred> r3n0c, what repositories do you have?
[07:28] <ubuntu> i need help
[07:29] <r3n0c> earlmred, is there an easy way to get the list without opening the add/remove app list?
[07:29] <xLE> it still did not delte the file
[07:29] <mindedc> xLE: just be carefull.... can accidentally wipe your disk... :)
[07:29] <jxxt> we all do!!!!
[07:29] <xLE> righto
[07:29] <earlmred> r3n0c, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <xLE> done it
[07:29] <xLE> ta
[07:30] <littlebear72> ok well i was having hasssles with my windows system seems my hdd had total failure ... is not a good thing i had some hard to get files on it .. anyway so i tried with windows cd and got nowhere then i thought why not use my live cd and boot to it then transfeer to my network drives on  my working ubuntu system .. fantastic i have allmost finished backing up everything from the secondary drive once thats done ill use it to boot to and see what i can
[07:30] <littlebear72> do aboutthe lost hardware
[07:30] <mindedc> xLE: I have done this before "rm -rf / foo" and rm happily deleted my entire box from root out...
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe main multiverse restricted #Added by software-properties
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security universe main multiverse restricted
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security universe main multiverse restricted
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[07:30] <r3n0c> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[07:30] <r3n0c> are the only uncommented ones
[07:30] <earlmred> oh crap
[07:30] <earlmred> don't paste heh
[07:30] <littlebear72> all im trying to say is thank god for ubuntu
[07:30] <r3n0c> lol
[07:30] <maddash> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <maddash> !paste > r3n0c
[07:30] <earlmred> r3n0c, http://rafb.net/p/Ob9znj97.html
[07:31] <earlmred> r3n0c, that's my sources list.
[07:31] <r3n0c> earlmred,  should i just hcange to that?
[07:31] <communized> im having a problem with my java
[07:31] <MyOriginalAlias> So no one here uses screenlets?
[07:31] <MyOriginalAlias> no one at all?
[07:31] <communized> E: sun-java6-bin: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[07:31] <communized> E: sun-java6-jre: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[07:31] <earlmred> r3n0c, you can try, save your old one atleast.
[07:31] <^root^> MyOriginalAlias, nope
[07:31] <_nix_> gee who are these FloodBot{1,2,3} ??
[07:31] <communized> before that i sudo aptitude sun-java6-jre
[07:32] <jxxt> MyOriginalAlias, I do not..
[07:32] <mindedc> I'll ask one more time if anyone has any experience with > 1tb filesystems on 32 bit 6.06 LTS??? please help!
[07:32] <earlmred> mindedc, what problem are you having?
[07:32] <quaff> does anyone know which package i gotta install to get the tulip driver for my eth0?
[07:32] <maddash> communized: erm, you have to 'aptitude install [package]'
[07:32] <littlebear72> _nix_: no idea but if i was looking at them i woudl be carefull lol
[07:32] <^root^> mindedc, sorry, cant help!
[07:32] <maddash> quaff: drivers are in the kernel.
[07:32] <communized> thats what i meant
[07:32] <mindedc> earlmred: the one I posted before with the XFS crash...
[07:32] <communized> maddash, i used aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[07:32] <earlmred> mindedc, paste that error again.
[07:33] <mindedc> earlmred: already thinking about trying reiser
[07:33] <_nix_> mindedc: boy I doubt if a lot of people here have > 1TB storage..
[07:33] <mindedc> earlmred: xfs_force_shutdown(md2,0x8) called from line 1031 of file fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c.  Return address = 0xd0a7043e
[07:33] <quaff> maddash: i would think so.. but for some reason my ethernet card isn't being detected in ubuntu's kernel
[07:33]  * littlebear72 does 
[07:33] <_nix_> littlebear72: thanks..
[07:33] <r3n0c> earlmred,  ok lets see wat happens now
[07:33] <quaff> it is in gentoo livecd, suse livecd, but not ubuntu's livecd :/
[07:33] <communized> maddash,  can i pm you? i don't want to flood this error im getting
[07:33] <maddash> quaff: because the kernel you have doesn't have the driver installed
[07:33] <communized> well, its not a error
[07:33] <earlmred> mindedc, bad thing about reiser implementation on ubuntu, it replays the journal every damn boot ...
[07:33] <mindedc> _nix_: just got 3 1tb SATAs at frys for $250US each
[07:33] <earlmred> mindedc, which is /wrong/
[07:33] <maddash> communized: fire away. or pastebin.
[07:33] <oldspice> i'm using my live cd right now and i'm on step 4, the partitioning part. i am able to modify and create only 1 new partition. how would i create /swap and /home?
[07:33] <mindedc> earlmred: thats one reason I went XFS...
[07:33] <earlmred> mindedc, but i haven't had any problems with it other than that.
[07:34] <quaff> maddash: so rebuild kernel time? thanks :)
[07:34] <mindedc> earlmred: had good luck with it....
[07:34] <earlmred> mindedc, you could just throw ext2 up on it, probably be faster.
[07:34] <tijn> !fglrx
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:34] <r3n0c> earlmred,  ok well it appears to work now
[07:34] <earlmred> mindedc, you don't really need journaling on a raid5 anyways.
[07:34] <mindedc> earlmred: I have blown a journal on ext3 before so I am weary of that...
[07:34] <_nix_> mindedc: lucky you man.. nice..
[07:34] <r3n0c> earlmred,  but i'm not sure why.... after i added the respisorities i didn't update anything
[07:34] <earlmred> r3n0c, apt-get update
[07:34] <mindedc> _nix_: thx... wife hasn't seen the visa bill yet :)
[07:35] <r3n0c> earlmred,  some of the respositories fail
[07:35] <_nix_> lol
[07:35] <earlmred> r3n0c, you're probably missing some keys.
[07:35] <xLE> how do i search for a file? find -name /dir/dir/ "file*" ?
[07:35] <littlebear72> ooooohhh _nix_
[07:35] <r3n0c> earlmred,  yea, you have the ones for compiz, i uninstalled that
[07:35] <mindedc> earlmred: I may try that to see if it's an XFS problem or a kernel problem...
[07:35] <MyOriginalAlias> Does anyone know if any of the repositories have a package for screenlets?
[07:35] <ere4si> xLE, try locate (filename)
[07:35] <earlmred> mindedc, or just install freebsd and be done with it.
[07:35] <r3n0c> earlmred,  thats aite tho, aslong as i can do javac i'm happy, trying to grade projects is so hard with eclipse
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> ext2ifs says it needs an x86 processor, does that preclude AMD processors then?
[07:36] <xLE> ah ty
[07:36] <ere4si> k
[07:36] <earlmred> r3n0c, boo on eclipse :)
[07:36] <_nix_> littlebear72: omg.. what is that supposed to mean.. what are you doing?? ;-)
[07:36] <earlmred> r3n0c, javac + vim ftw.
[07:36] <mindedc> earlmred: I read some stuff that indicated there were some bad performance problems with the software raid 5 in freebsd...
[07:36] <oldspice> when im partitioning my harddrive when using the live cd, is it normal for me to only make one more partition? "/". I can't create anymore after that such as /swap or /home.
[07:36] <littlebear72> your not tellign yoru wife about that card _nix_ lol
[07:36] <communized> root@administrator-desktop:~# apt-get install -f
[07:36] <communized> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:36] <earlmred> mindedc, well, you could try solaris x86.
[07:36] <earlmred> mindedc, with zfs
[07:36] <communized> root@administrator-desktop:~# dpkg --configure -a
[07:36] <communized> root@administrator-desktop:~#
[07:36] <communized> did nothing
[07:37] <mindedc> earlmred: I used to have hardware raid5 on some megaraid, but scsi disks are too expensive.
[07:37] <earlmred> communized, you hit ctrl c in the middle of an install didn't you
[07:37] <mindedc> earlmred: HA!
[07:37] <maddash> Geoffrey2: yes. drivers are very sensitive to the architecture they're run on. you could try installing it, though.
[07:37] <communized> earlmred
[07:37] <communized> the install takes me to a configure screen
[07:37] <ere4si> oldspice, try making them logical partitions
[07:37] <mindedc> earlmredslowlaris would probably work
[07:37] <communized> which i can not do anything to finish it
[07:37] <communized> or get past
[07:37] <_nix_> littlebear72: urm.. I don't have a wife.. thanks for the compliment though. :-)
[07:37] <communized> im doing sun
[07:37] <communized> java6-jre
[07:37] <earlmred> mindedc, i have friends running zfs who are real happy with it.
[07:38] <mindedc> earlmred: I couls also hook them up to my sparc 20 2x 50mhz :)
[07:38] <communized> guysh, i fixed.
[07:38] <communized> ty ];
[07:38] <earlmred> but my only complaint with ubuntu is it replaying the journal on boot.
[07:38] <earlmred> mindedc, i don't think you're getting solaris 10 on that ;)
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> ok, guess I need to keep looking then
[07:38] <mindedc> earlmred: is that ubuntu only or does rhel have the same issue?
[07:38] <Xbehave> i cant use CF f none of my keybindings work, how can i get it to recognise windows + key combos?
[07:38] <mindedc> earlmred: actually, openBSD is 10x faster than solaris on that machine....
[07:38] <backgen> anyone know how i can uninstall and reinstall compiz?
[07:38] <earlmred> mindedc, i'm not sure, but i saw some lists on the reiser dev lists talking about how distros were implementing it wrong.
[07:39] <littlebear72> lol my bad i got that bit wrong lol [18:34;48] <mindedc> _nix_: thx... wife hasn't seen the visa bill yet :) was supposed to be mindedc
[07:39] <earlmred> mindedc, then netbsd would be 100x faster.
[07:39] <maddash> Geoffrey2: http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php?t11561.html
[07:39] <mindedc> earlmred: and no bitching from Theo :)
[07:39] <earlmred> mindedc, are you running mdadm --status?
[07:39] <earlmred> i'm trying to figure out how to get it to email me when a drive borks.
[07:40] <ere4si> Geoffrey2, amd is x86
[07:40] <ere4si> like intel
[07:40] <earlmred> mindedc, heh it took me a full DAY to build the array and format completely
[07:40] <maddash> ere4si: amd64 is not.
[07:40] <mindedc> earlmred: not right now, I used to cat /proc/mdstat and had a cron job diff it against the current and email me if anything changed...
[07:40] <DragonSpirit> What can cause windows to come up with just blackness in them when you have visual effects toggled on
[07:40] <mindedc> earlmred: I had 3 raid 1 volumes in that config...
[07:40] <ere4si> maddash: yep
[07:41] <maddash> Geoffrey2: er, you're not running 64-bit, ar eyou?
[07:41] <jxxt> Geoffrey2, unless it is amd64
[07:41] <maddash> Geoffrey2: if you're living on plain old 32-bit AMD, then ext2ifs is fine...like ere4si said, x86 is a subset of amd
[07:41] <mindedc> earlmred: christ, tell me about it... the WD drives I have are 5400 RPM, which is good for noise (can't hear the server when its on)
[07:41] <ScorpFromHell> is there anything that allows you to setup a netboot server that would copy disk images instead of using preseed files to setup systems?
[07:41] <earlmred> mindedc, gross =)
[07:41] <mindedc> earlmred: but building the raid took a solid day..
[07:42] <earlmred> mindedc, i've got 4xseagate 7200.10s in the array, and then a 7200.11 boot
[07:42] <earlmred> mindedc, although thinking about it now, i should probably move /home off of the array, and onto the boot drive.
[07:42] <mindedc> earlmred: the two 160s are 7200.12s I think... good drives.. I have some WD800s that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire...
[07:43] <mindedc> earlmred: I have /boot on a 256 meg CF card in a CF to IDE adapter and / is on the two 160s in RAID 1
[07:44] <earlmred> mindedc, i've got 4 250GB drives sitting here, with a hardware raid card ... but my power supply will only spin up 3 of them =\
[07:44] <earlmred> mindedc, so i guess i need to get a bigger psu =\
[07:44] <JC_Denton_> Do I need to restart svn somehow for the svn server to start accepting connections:?
[07:44] <sorrydaijin> can anyone point be in the right direction for how to increase the max  volume in ubuntu. I can barely hear it when its maxed out atm. (I have already tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto)
[07:44] <mindedc> earlmred: That sucks :) or hotwire two PSUs together :)
[07:44] <earlmred> mindedc, 650W, 8800GTS 640MB, AMD 6400+, 4GB RAM, 5 hard drives ...
[07:45] <earlmred> mindedc, guess it couldn't take another 4 drives =\
[07:45] <mindedc> earlmred: crap... I have 650 watt PSU in my server box... mbd doesn't need that much juice...
[07:45] <ivanwillig> sorrydaijin: there is a tool called Alas Mixer, i had the same issue on my macbook
[07:45] <earlmred> mindedc, between the athlon and the graphics card, heh.
[07:46] <earlmred> mindedc, and i'm going to be dropping in an 8600GT to power another 20" monitor, and my hdtv.
[07:46] <DragonSpirit> Anyone else had windows come up black with visual effects turned on, the borders are still on the window, just the inside part is black, I don't mind it without the effects, I was just wondering why it does it occasionally
[07:46] <earlmred> mindedc, 8800 is to push my 30" and a single 20"
[07:46] <staykovmarin> hi i have a question in using photorec. is there a way to put the output on a different partition?
[07:46] <mindedc> earlmred: yeah really... I almost bought a dual xeon from ebay but I don't the the 12v rail in the psu would handle the load...
[07:46] <mindedc> earlmred: sweet setup... you need some industrial cooling for that rig  :)
[07:47] <earlmred> mindedc, i used to run a dual 1.6 xeon ... o/c'd to 3GHz each.
[07:47] <ivanwillig> sorrydaijin: that package name is alsa-utils, try that
[07:47] <earlmred> mindedc, tuniq tower on the psu, single 120 in the back.
[07:47] <ere4si> sorrydaijin, is the slider for pcm at full as well?
[07:47] <Pie-rate> i'm looking for a cheap pci sound card with optical spdif that'll work with linux, preferably work out of the box with ubuntu, can anyone help?
[07:47] <earlmred> mindedc, keeps the apartment toasty.
[07:47] <darryn> hi im rly new to ubuntu and im not sure wats going on but i think its not starting up rite
[07:47] <unimatrix9> hello all
[07:48] <unimatrix9> how can i disable the keyring question on startup?
[07:48] <earlmred> this is sad, i've got a 15Mbit connection, and i'm wanting more.
[07:48] <mindedc> earlmred: haha.. I have that server, my 3.6ghz pentium D system and a G5 mac in my 12x12 office... stays toasty...
[07:48] <mindedc> earlmred: used to be extra toasty when I had the glass monitors (2x Mitsu DP1000 21" boat anchors)
[07:49] <darryn> i get the normal loading screen and then it goes to a screen thats says      * starting anac(h)rinustuc cron anacron                                [ ok ]
[07:49] <darryn> neone kno wat i do there?
[07:49] <unimatrix9> can i disable the keyring manager from turning on on startup?
[07:49] <earlmred> mindedc, i /had/ a poweredge 6400 w/ quad p2 500s ... unfortunately when i moved, i didn't have enough room for it
[07:49] <earlmred> mindedc, thing weighed 100 pounds and had 3 PSUs.
[07:50] <mindedc> earlmred: I know what you mean... I had a customer throwing away some HP rack servers with 10 36 gig drives, dual PIII cpus etc...
[07:50] <plattypus1> maddash, thanks for your help, I got the thing cobbled together. Was a problem with the kernel module.
[07:50] <earlmred> mindedc, now i'm mad, cuz i could really use that box.
[07:50] <maddash> plattypus1: :O how? tell me.
[07:50] <mindedc> earlmred: good machines but I don't have the space and the noise from my rigs was driving me crazy...
[07:51] <darryn> does neone kno wat im talking bout?
[07:51] <earlmred> mindedc, i'm thinking about rigging a rack up in one of my closets, i've got this big walk in, no power in there though ...
[07:51] <mindedc> earlmred: you just need a raised floor area in your aptment
[07:51] <plattypus1> maddash, there's a simlink that needs to be made from /lib/modules/(kernel)/misc to /lib/modules/kernel/volatile and that simlink wasn't there.
[07:51] <filemonkey> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with the x-server on ubuntu.
[07:52] <ere4si> darryn: what happens after the anacron job runs?
[07:52] <mindedc> earlmred: I had a whole bakers rack full of gear at one point with some routers and gig switches etc.. two HP storage arrays and a quad proc ALR PPro.....
[07:52] <darryn> i get deferred execution and periodic command schduler than batter state and than it says running local boot scripts
[07:52] <maddash> plattypus1: smart.
[07:52] <darryn> than stoos
[07:52] <filemonkey> It keeps telling me that the screens aren't configured correctly. Any way to fix this?
[07:52] <darryn> stops
[07:52] <earlmred> mindedc, haha raised floor.
[07:52] <mindedc> earlmred: I ran out of space last time I moved...
[07:52] <earlmred> mindedc, pick up some used tiling from a decommissioned datacenter.
[07:53] <plattypus1> maddash, took some looking 'round, plus I had to grab a google-cached copy of a howto referred to by somebody else... Ugh...
[07:53] <mindedc> earlmred: The customer that was throwing the servers out actually moved their floor tiles to their new datacenter instead of buying new ones...
[07:53] <ere4si> darryn: have you turned of the graphical login?
[07:53] <earlmred> mindedc,   nohup mdadm --monitor --mail=sysadmin --delay=300 /dev/md0 &
[07:53] <mindedc> earlmred: cheap bastards...
[07:53] <Neronious> i accidentally put a space in a file name i can only access on a command line; what would be the proper command line text to remove this file?
[07:53] <darryn> im not even sure where i would have done tht
[07:54] <earlmred> Neronious, put the filename in quotes.
[07:54] <Neronious> earlmred: thanks
[07:54] <mindedc> earlmred: badass... will note that one... if I can get my array stable...
[07:54] <plattypus1> Neronious, put a \ before the space, eg file\ name
[07:54] <Neronious> thanks
[07:54] <earlmred> mindedc, i'd post your error to the xfs dev list
[07:55] <earlmred> mindedc,  nohup mdadm --monitor --mail=sysadmin --delay=300 /dev/md0 &
[07:55] <earlmred> grr
[07:55] <earlmred> mindedc, http://oss.sgi.com/bugzilla/
[07:55] <mindedc> earlmred: are you on the mailing list? is there a good place for me to monitor that? I'm willing to provide debugging output etc...
[07:55] <mindedc> earlmred: oh, cool
[07:55] <yrlnry> Is there a program that will unpack an "ACE" format archive file?
[07:56] <yrlnry> Searching in synaptic for "ace" turns up too many false positives to be useful.
[07:56] <mindedc> yrlnry: yeah, I think it's unace...
[07:56] <yrlnry> Thanks.
[07:56] <ere4si> darryn: at the grub menu highlight the kernal you want to boot and press e - scroll down to the line that says "kernel" and press e - then type a space and then type    quiet splash   - hit enter then b for boot
[07:56] <earlmred> yrlnry, apt-get install unace
[07:57] <mindedc> yrlnry: the only time I have seen it referred to is where people are doing AV filtering and want to get EVERYTHING
[07:57] <darryn> um wats the grub menu
[07:57] <yrlnry> mindedc: Sorry, I can't understand that.
[07:57] <earlmred> yrlnry, sudo apt-get install unace
[07:58] <yrlnry> mindedc: was it meant for me?
[07:58] <yrlnry> earlmred: thanks.
[07:58] <ere4si> darryn: that is what you see if you have two OS's or kernels - you might just need to press e
[07:58] <mindedc> yrlnry: yeah, I was indicating that the only time I see people looking for CLI ACE extraction is for use in antivirus filtering for email
[07:59] <ere4si> darryn: after the bios screen
[07:59] <yrlnry> Oh, I didn't figure out what "AV" stood for.  I thought audio-video.
[07:59] <mindedc> yrlnry: specifically where the av filter need to unpack all the binaries and run scanning on it....
[07:59] <yrlnry> Sure, it makes sense now.
[07:59] <mindedc> yrlnry: oh... :)
[07:59] <morphles> i cant get compiz to accept <alt>Button3 for resize option what can be the problem? libwnck?
[07:59] <yrlnry> No, I actually have an ACE archive, and I don't want to boot windows just to unpack it.
[07:59] <yrlnry> I've done that twice today.
[07:59] <mindedc> yrlnry: feel your pain...
[08:00] <darryn> i found the grub menu
[08:00] <ere4si> k
[08:01] <morphles> nor i can unset window menu combo completly - to set ir None
[08:02] <darryn> it already says quiet splash at the end
[08:02] <yrlnry> Bah, unace only works on ACE v1 files.  I need unace-nonfree.
[08:02] <darryn> so do i type it again or jus skip that
[08:02] <mindedc> earlmred: bug 765 on bugzilla at SGI looks promising..
[08:03] <ere4si> darryn: just reboot - do you get a login prompt at all - last line where it hangs says "login'?
[08:03] <earlmred> mindedc, link?
[08:03] <darryn> no
[08:03] <mindedc> earlmred:http://oss.sgi.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=765
[08:03] <Geoffrey2> does ubuntu not make a backup of the menu.lst file when it updates it?
[08:03] <ere4si> darryn: there will be one - is it a few lines up?
[08:04] <darryn> nope
[08:04] <fwaokda> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/    <<---- at that site i've gotten to step 17 but it says "cp: target '/media/ubuntu710/' is not a directory: No such file or directory"  Can someone help meez :( ???
[08:05] <earlmred> mindedc, dirty transaction.
[08:05] <ere4si> darryn: can you boot using the rescue kernel option - do you know the root password?
[08:05] <mindedc> earlmred: bad news on a journaling filesystem
[08:06] <Dark> argh...still having issues with getting on the net...can anyone help please
[08:06] <darryn> ummm u lost me
[08:06] <earlmred> mindedc, what kernel and version of xfs are you running?
[08:06] <bulmer> Dark-> what do you have? elaborate on your network setup
[08:06] <mindedc> earlmred: uname -a: Linux leviathan 2.6.15-26-server
[08:07] <ere4si> darryn: when you boot there is the grub menu - one option is rescue kernel - but you need the root password to do repairs
[08:07] <earlmred> mindedc, i'd almost compile from kernel.org source ...
[08:07] <earlmred> mindedc, make sure you're getting the latest xfs and such
[08:07] <Dark> i just installed 7.10 on my other box, and the internet, etc works fine with the live cd, but no dice after install...my setup is computer--router/switch---cable modem
[08:07] <mindedc> earlmred: was looking, I can't tell what version of XFS is in use..
[08:07] <darryn> i jus dl it from the site so unless its a password i put on during installation i don kno it
[08:07] <Dark> note...i currently have 7.10 on this box, and no issues with the net...
[08:07] <balleyne> Dark: are you getting an IP address from the router?
[08:08] <balleyne> does anyone know how I can tell network manager to NOT automatically connect to a wireless network that I've connected to before?
[08:08] <Dark> my router sees my new box, but i am not getting an IP address from it
[08:08] <balleyne> Dark: sudo dhclient - that may help, it requests an IP from the command line
[08:08] <Dark> i can see the MAC address of my computer in my router..so I know layer 2 seems to be working
[08:08] <ere4si> darryn: did you md5 the disk before install to hard drive
[08:08] <bulmer> balleyne-> modify /etc/network/interfaces and remove line with essid
[08:09] <darryn> md5?
[08:09] <Dark> already tried it...doesnt work
[08:09] <ere4si> darryn: and did you burn the disk at a slow speed?
[08:09] <david__> any one have web server runing here
[08:09] <bulmer> Dark-> you tried  dhclient eth0   assuming your nic is eth0
[08:09] <mindedc> earlmred: ok, will try that. Thanks for all the help... good luck on paying your utility bills :)
[08:09] <darryn>  ya i burned at the slowest speed i could
[08:09] <ere4si> !md5
[08:09] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:09] <Dark> it tries to get an address on port 67, but nothing
[08:09] <friedtofu> help on forcing 96 DPI in X or GDM login screen?
[08:09] <balleyne> bulmer: I don't have any essids in that file...
[08:09] <darryn> ya wats md5
[08:10] <Dark> and finally ends with "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[08:10] <ere4si> !md5 | darryn
[08:10] <ubotu> darryn: please see above
[08:10] <poppy75> I have an ssh server and some network shares setup on my desktop. i want to leave it on all the time but i dont want to waste that much power. i consider WoL but my desktop only has connection via wireless. what options do i have to make the shares and server available and save as much power as possible?
[08:10] <Dark> yup
[08:10] <ere4si> darryn: what speed did you burn the disk at?
[08:10] <bulmer> balleyne thats where essid settings is kept
[08:10] <darryn> 1x
[08:10] <ere4si> k
[08:11] <Dark> and yes, the the interface i am using is eth0
[08:11] <friedtofu> anyone know how to force 96 DPI in gnome login screen or X? :/
[08:11] <Dark> i also have a eth1, but i get the same issues with that as well
[08:11] <bulmer> Dark-> try ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[08:11] <bulmer> as root
[08:11] <ere4si> darryn: md5 is the way to check the disk before you install to makke sure it is ok - have you got to the desktop ever?
[08:12] <Dark> it says that its not configured
[08:12] <darryn> o i checkd the disk out
[08:12] <darryn> it said it was intact and fine
[08:12] <t-Omicr0n> poppy75: wireless network cards almost never support wake-on-lan, the best solution I can think of is to connect your desktop with a lan cable
[08:12] <bulmer> Dark-> if you want to respond to me, pls prefix your responses with my nick or ill miss it
[08:13] <Dark> when i try the "ifup', it says "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[08:13] <ere4si> darryn: how?
[08:13] <Dark> bulmer will do
[08:13] <morphles> if i try to instal flash-nonfree i get md5sum mismatch and plugin not installed, what do i do to correct this?
[08:13] <^root^> hi! from where can i get a nice ftp client as gftp crashes every now and then
[08:13] <darryn> on the main menu when u first boot from cd
[08:13] <ere4si> k
[08:13] <bulmer> Dark-> you have to activate your interface from network manager
[08:14] <Dark> bulmer i have tried that
[08:14] <darryn> i also have a cd that i orderd in the mail that did the same thing
[08:14] <poppy75> t-Omicr0n, its impossible to connect to LAN, since my cable modem/router is in an odd spot in another room
[08:14] <wasabi_> hey, is there a repo with evolution 2.21.1 or greater?
[08:14] <bulmer> Dark-> but what is the result?
[08:14] <darryn> loaded up and then gave me the lines with [ ok ] at the end
[08:15] <Dark> bulmer right now my interfaces are in "roaming" mode just like this box
[08:15] <Dark> bulmer nothing...still no connection
[08:15] <Dark> bulmer unless i am doing it wrong
[08:15] <bulmer> Dark-> umm you seem to forget what i asked earlier, elaborate on your network setup..i didnt know you're using wifi
[08:15] <andrew[andrboot]> ok dumb question :) lol... got a bluetooth phone conn / adapter on laptop all "connected" any idea how i am able to use it as a modem( the phone) as i did with the usb cable? (its a nokia N73) :)
[08:16] <morphles> anybode, some help with flash plugin?
[08:16] <Dark> bulmer i'm not using wifi..this is a wired connection going to a router/switch then to my cable modem
[08:16] <MyOriginalAlias> Will someone please help me find a ubuntu package for screenlets? I tried converting the rpm with slien but it didnt work
[08:16] <t-Omicr0n> poppy75: I see, then you could buy a wifi card that does support Wol (search google - realtek for example)  or some wireless-to-wired bridge (search google, I don't know if this even exists)
[08:16] <Dark> bulmer my network set up is fine, as this box works, and the box in question works with the live CD
[08:16] <MyOriginalAlias> alien*
[08:16] <bulmer> Dark-> wired connections doesnt have roaming stuff
[08:16] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias there is quite anumber of faq's on google.. i stll might have my deb around somewhere
[08:17] <wasabi_> anyone? do you know any repo with evolution 2.21.1 or greater?
[08:17] <balleyne> bulmer: in /etc/network/interfaces is just says "auto wlan0", no essids - thoughts? nm-applet will connect me only to wireless networks I've been connected to in the past, but I want to manually change that...
[08:17] <Dark> bulmer it does on this box
[08:17] <poppy75> ok ill check into that. so is there no way to reduce power consumption with just ubuntu running?
[08:17] <bulmer> Dark->  then pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:17] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: did you make it with alien?
[08:17] <Dark> bulmer k, one se
[08:17] <andrew[andrboot]> not sure.. i cannot find it lol
[08:17] <Cyber_Stalker> !ntfsg
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <Cyber_Stalker> !ntfg
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <filemonkey> Hey guys, just installed ubuntu. Installation worked great and all but when it starts up, it claims that X-Server couldn't start up because my main display was not detected. Can anyone help me get started?
[08:18] <davidthedrake> Is there an English postgres channel?
[08:18] <balleyne> !ntfs-3g
[08:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:18] <Cyber_Stalker> !ntfs
[08:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[08:18] <Dark> "auto lo"
[08:18] <t-Omicr0n> morphles: click "Applications" in the menu, go to "Install/remove software", search for "flash" and install "Ubuntu restricted extra's" - this includes flash
[08:18] <Dark> bulmer "iface lo inet loopback"
[08:18] <bulmer> balleyne-> what is it exactly doing?
[08:18] <t-Omicr0n> morph
[08:18] <t-Omicr0n> morphles: also install macromedia flash plugin
[08:18] <davidthedrake> ?
[08:18] <bulmer> Dark-> is that all? your interfaces are not configured then..
[08:18] <darryn> no idea ere4si?
[08:19] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias screenlets should be in apt-get
[08:19] <andrew[andrboot]> :)
[08:19] <t-Omicr0n> morphles: correction: it's enough to *only* install Macromedia flash plugin
[08:19] <andrew[andrboot]> sudo apt-get install screenelts
[08:19] <Dark> bulmer thats it
[08:19] <andrew[andrboot]> *screenlets
[08:19] <t-Omicr0n> morphles: one last thing, you need to enable all repositories in the "Add/remove software" tool by clicking "Preferences" (bottom left)
[08:19] <ere4si> darryn: reading for the command to start gdm from boot
[08:19] <xLE> how do i search for a file? find -name /dir/dir/ "file*" ? (dont want to use locate)
[08:20] <Dark> bulmer well, thats what this box has....the exact same thing, and it works great
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> folks, does anyone know if the grub settings are backed up anywhere when a kernel update is installed?
[08:20] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: lol that ws the first thing I tried is it in a restricted repo?
[08:20] <balleyne> bulmer: when I try to connect to my wireless network and it fails (signal is weak), it goes on and attempts to connect to the neighbour's, often successfully, because I've connected to that network in the past. It won't try to connect to any wireless networks that I haven't connected to in the past though (ie. only the one neighbour). Same thing happens at my office with a public wifi connection. It seems to be a
[08:20] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias lemme check
[08:20] <Dark> bulmer i cant understand why it would work with the live cd, but not when ubuntu is installed
[08:20] <andrew[andrboot]> po
[08:20] <andrew[andrboot]> possibly.
[08:20] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias gusty or fiesty?
[08:21] <onLy_sWeeTy_gaLs> hiiii
[08:21] <bulmer> Dark->  your interfaces are not configured then..you need to either copy the setting when in liveCd
[08:21] <MyOriginalAlias> 7.10
[08:21] <kakoonia> hey, how can i configure my sound system? i want to reconfigure it to the default setup.
[08:21] <Dark> bulmer how can i do that
[08:22] <ere4si> darryn: has the system ever booted into ubuntu?
[08:22] <bulmer> balleyne-> well to make it attempt to only connect on yours, then you need to set that essid on that file i mentioned
[08:22] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i change a drive out of read only?!readonly
[08:22] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias i assume you have compiz-fusion operational?
[08:22] <darryn> no never
[08:22] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i change a drive out of read only? !readonly
[08:22] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: 7.10, E: Package screenlets has no installation candidate
[08:22] <Cyber_Stalker> !readonly
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about readonly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <kakoonia> !sound
[08:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:22] <Dark> bulmer i just poped in the live cd...what folder is it under, and where do i copy it to
[08:22] <friedtofu> help - System -> Administration -> Login Window --- Security (Tab) -> Configure X Server... <-- i cant get that to work
[08:22] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias enable all the repos and run an update
[08:22] <chronosx> is granular security for folder sharing in samba possible? i.e. folder contains a list of users who can access it
[08:22] <andrew[andrboot]> then try it again
[08:22] <bulmer> Dark->   /etc/network/interfaces but am not sure what this will in liveCD
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i make a drive not read only?
[08:23] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: Can you do that in synaptic, its been a while for me
[08:23] <balleyne> bulmer: ok, thanks. It still won't autoconnect to networks I've never connected to before, so I have a feeling there's a list being stored somewhere... i'll figure something out though - thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[08:23] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias yes
[08:23] <kakoonia> hey, how can i configure my sound system? i want to reconfigure it to the default setup. is there a package to reconfigure using dpkg-reconfigure < ? ? >
[08:23] <ere4si> darryn: you could try your password as the root password but I'm not confident - need the rescue kernel to do repais
[08:23] <balleyne> Cuber_Stalker: you're trying to read an ntfs drive? you need to use ntfs-3g
[08:23] <andrew[andrboot]> settings/Repo's
[08:23] <ere4si> *repairs
[08:23] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker*: you're trying to read an ntfs drive? you need to use ntfs-3g
[08:23] <darryn> how do i get the rescue kernel
[08:23] <andrew[andrboot]> thats in the gui.. :)
[08:24] <morphles> t-Omicr0n: i get md5sum mismatch in detalsils so no good this wai oar any other i tried...
[08:24] <Dark> bulmer should i boot into the live cd and let you know what the network settings are
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne: trying to write to it and i have ntfs-3g installed
[08:24] <bulmer> balleyne-> with an essid set am not sure if it will attempt for another AP in case it doesnt connect to the designated one
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> but it wont allow me to write
[08:24] <bulmer> Dark-> you can try
[08:24] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: Sorry, do I just hit the two in the third party tab in repositories?
[08:24] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: are you sure it's mounted using ntfs-3g? how did you mount it?
[08:25] <fwaokda> can someone tell me if step 17 here [ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ ] should be sitting at a prompt for awhile in the terminal purdy plz! :) ???
[08:25] <ere4si> darryn: it is an option at boot from the grub menu - do you have a dual boot with windows or is ubuntu the only install?
[08:25] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne:  how should i mount it?
[08:25] <darryn> only ubuntu
[08:25] <finchx6> hey, this is going to sound incredibly pathetic, but, has anyone in here had to deal with the Sigmatel STAC 9200 audio problems???
[08:25] <darryn> ok im at the grub menu
[08:26] <darryn> but i don see rescue kernel
[08:26] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: Because everything in the ubuntu software tab is already checked..
[08:26] <Dark> bulmer booting....one sec
[08:26] <filemonkey> Please guys, I'm really wanting to get this working. How can I get X-server to recognize my display device on startup?
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne:  how should i mount it?
[08:26] <darryn> i have a recovery mode
[08:26] <Geoffrey2> ok, one more time...when Ubuntu installs an updated kernel image, does it save the old menu.lst file anywhere?
[08:27] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: sorry, trying to find the command... I believe there may be a separate mount command, like... ntfsmount or mountntfs or something like that (I don't have it installed on this machine)
[08:27] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias http://andrboot.com/gentoo/Screenshot.jpg
[08:27] <andrew[andrboot]> does it look smililar to that?
[08:27] <zetheroo> anyone know how to get printer sharing to work in Gutsy?
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne: could you help me more?
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> more specifics
[08:27] <ere4si> darryn: then when you boot you get the bios screen - then a text that says something like "press e to edit boot" - it's been a while since I single booted - and you need to get to the menu
[08:27] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount
[08:27] <andrew[andrboot]> i may have added another repo though. lemme check
[08:27] <ralth> I upgraded to alsa 1.0.15, and it broke my sound.  Is there a way to uninstall it?
[08:28] <andrew[andrboot]> @ MyOriginalAlias got it
[08:28] <kakoonia> hey, how can i configure my sound system? i want to reconfigure it to the default setup. is there a package to reconfigure using dpkg-reconfigure < ? ? >
[08:28] <MyOriginalAlias> andrew[andrboot]: Do share plz
[08:28] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: you can mount it using the  ntfsmount command from the terminal, so you can create a directory to mount it to (with mkdir), then `ntfsmount <device> <directory>` will mount it using ntfs-3g (with read/write capabilities)
[08:28] <darryn> ya it says e to edit the commands before booting
[08:29] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: does that make sense? I'm not sure how comfortable you are in this territory, do you know what the device is? (e.g. /dev/hda1)
[08:29] <andrew[andrboot]> MyOriginalAlias, pm :)
[08:30] <ere4si> darryn: if you press e it should give you an option for a rescue kernel
[08:30] <balleyne> bulmer: found it... `locate Fernandes` returned a gconf entry in ~/.gconf/system/networking/wireless/networks/Fernandes (where Fernandes is the neighbours network, lol)
[08:30] <jxxt_> MyOriginalAlias: Thank God we did not all find out the answer!!!!!!!!
[08:31] <andrew[andrboot]> did that work @ MyOriginalAlias ?
[08:31] <darryn> i get root, kernel, initrd, quiet
[08:31] <Dark> bulmer ok...i have the live cd booted, and the internet works with it...my /etc/network/interfaces says:
[08:31] <Dark> bulmer "auto lo"
[08:31] <Dark> bulmer "iface lo inet loopback"
[08:31] <Dark> and thats it
[08:31] <Dark> bulmer which is the exact same thing as the installed version
[08:31] <bulmer> balleyne-> thats good to know
[08:32] <ere4si> darryn,  no option for a rescue?
[08:32] <darryn> could it be root?
[08:32] <bulmer> Dark-> there should be entries in /etc/network/interfaces to make that work..i dont know what liveCD have or used for those settings
[08:32] <t-Omicr0n> morphles: check if this could this be this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890 They mention some fixes and stuff
[08:32] <ere4si> darryn: no
[08:32] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne: how do i list all the dirves
[08:32] <Cyber_Stalker> drives*
[08:32] <darryn> than no no rescue option
[08:33] <Cyber_Stalker> so that i can see what one i need to mount
[08:33] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: fdisk -l
[08:33] <Dark> that file doesnt have anything in it other than what i told you...unless it is hidden
[08:33] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: you might need a sudo...
[08:33] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne: that does nothing
[08:33] <Cyber_Stalker> kk
[08:34] <bulmer> balleyne-> which ubuntu version do you have?
[08:34] <balleyne> bulmer: gutsy
[08:34] <andrew[andrboot]> ok dumb question :) lol... got a bluetooth phone conn / adapter on laptop all "connected" any idea how i am able to use it as a modem( the phone) as i did with the usb cable? (its a nokia N73) :)
[08:34] <bulmer> balleyne-> okay..that feature isnt available on my dapper
[08:35] <andrej> Is there an easy way to retrieve packages for a version I don't have installed? I've installed my brother in law a dapper 6.06.01 server (running 7.04 myself). He's on dial-up, and I'd like to d/l the packages he needs to get on my broadband and burn them onto CD
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> cyber@cyber:~$ sudo mount -l /dev/sda5 /mnt/c
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/c busy
[08:35] <ere4si> sorry darryn but I'm at the end of my knowledge here... :)
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> but its not
[08:35] <tom__> hey guys the driver for my wireless card that comes with ubuntu is borked. there is a source for another driver in the repos, i just don't really know how to install it. is there a guide for compiling/installing wireless drivers?
[08:35] <balleyne> bulmer: ah, that would make sense, there were some significant changes to the wireless setup (nm-applet I believe, maybe more) in feisty
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> because i unmounted it
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> balleyne:
[08:35] <Dark> bulmer any ideas?
[08:35] <darryn> thats ok thnx for tryin man
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> sudo mount -l /dev/sda5 /mnt/c
[08:35] <ere4si> k
[08:36] <bulmer> Dark-> you can setup your /etc/network/interfaces file manually, google for one sample
[08:36] <balleyne> Cyber_Stalker: 1) you should be using ntfsmount instead of mount, I believe, if you want to be able to write to the disk; 2) Are you sure it's not mounted already? Can you see the disk on your desktop? It may have automounted..
[08:36] <ralth> I upgraded to alsa 1.0.15, and it broke my sound.  Is there a way to uninstall it?
[08:37] <finchx6> has anyone in here had any of the problems with the sigmatel STAC 9200 audio???  I keep finding how to's for it, but I can't get any of them work
[08:38] <ere4si> darryn: last thought - press e at boot then scroll to kernel and press e again and at the end of the type a space then   noapic nolapic   then hit enter and then b for boot
[08:38] <jaggz> when installing it it asks to install the bootloader (in the advanced box) and defaults to (hd0) -- but my first drive would be (sda) and, actually, it's a raid mirror (sda and sdb) which ubuntu is recognizing as two separate drives
[08:38] <newbie-ubu> quick queston please how do i update the apt cache
[08:38] <unnefer>  Hi does anyone know the min memory space to implement a  file system such as FAT16, ext2 etc
[08:38] <ere4si> !raid
[08:38] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[08:39] <jaggz> thanks
[08:39] <balleyne> newbie-ubu: apt-get update (if that's what you're asking for)
[08:39] <Dark> bulmer well...after googleing it, the "default" setup is exactly what I have
[08:39] <newbie-ubu> not really cos apt-get dont have the file in it i need to add reposotories but the repo is not htere
[08:39] <newbie-ubu> there
[08:39] <newbie-ubu> its a dead repo
[08:39] <newbie-ubu> i understand that cos its a old distro im running a live cd of dapper
[08:39] <RealTek> Heya, anyone upgrade to the 2.6.22 kernel on Gutsy, it has caused a bit of a dilemma.
[08:40] <bulmer> Dark-> the interfaces have more entries than what you showed me
[08:40] <newbie-ubu> and well i need to get ntfs3 running and the how to i read had 2 debs and both are dead
[08:40] <bulmer> Dark-> the interfaces file have more entries than what you showed me
[08:40] <darryn> right bak to the same screen
[08:40] <usrl> I'd like to set up a dual boot, but all the instructions I see are on how to set up a fresh install -- I've already got Ubuntu installed, and would like to install Windows without having to reinstall Ubuntu
[08:40] <usrl> Anyone know where I could find a guide on that?
[08:40] <balleyne> newbie-ubu: Dapper is old, but it's still supported. What are you trying to do? Update the listings from the repositories, or add a new repository?
[08:40] <andrew[andrboot]> @ newbie-ubu which version of ubuntu. because 7.10 has it built in
[08:40] <ere4si> sorry then darryn :)
[08:40] <Dark> bulmer those are the only two entries in that file....same with this box
[08:41] <andrej> Hello, is there an easy way to retrieve packages for a version I don't have installed? I've installed my brother in law a dapper 6.06.01 server (running 7.04 myself). He's on dial-up, and I'd like to d/l the packages he needs to get on my broadband and burn them onto CD
[08:41] <bulmer> Dark-> umm believe me, to make it work, there is more
[08:41] <darryn> its ok lol ill jus keep plugin away at it maybe ill stumble into sumthin
[08:41] <Dark> bulmer when i do a "cat /etc/network/interfaces" there are only 2 lines
[08:41] <newbie-ubu> i added the new repo i needed and it was a dead repo so i thought it might be possible to tell apt-get to look at a different location for its repos but i realise thats a daft idea and unlikely to be realistic
[08:41] <bulmer> Dark-> are you on liveCD or your installed one?
[08:41] <balleyne> usrl: don't take my word for it because I haven't tried, but I've read that it's more different to put Windows on second than vice-versa, in other words I'm not sure that Windows has great "don't use the entire disk" or "respect existing operating systems" features on the installer
[08:42] <usrl> balleyne: I know.
[08:42] <MrDaytonaMan> Is anybody here from Florida?
[08:42] <newbie-ubu> so now i would like to know a slightly different thing and can you tell me if i add a repo for edgey eft instead of dapper can i still use that for the file ntfs3
[08:42] <Dark> bulmer right now, i am on the live cd...but the installed version says the exact same thing as the live cd
[08:42] <balleyne> usrl: maybe you could try using a tool like GParted to setup a partition for Windows ahead of time? not sure if that would help or not... again, just guessing
[08:42] <bulmer> Dark-> and does the installed version work?
[08:43] <tich> i have a lot of media files that i need to organize.  i have tried sub-directories but i always forget where i put stuff.  is there some way to tag files and then search tags?  or some other way to oganize files?
[08:43] <jaggz> oookay.. compiling up "device-mapper" for getting my raid array to work I guess :)
[08:43] <RealTek> Heya, anyone upgrade to the 2.6.22 kernel on Gutsy, it has caused a bit of a dilemma.
[08:43] <jaggz> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:43] <usrl> balleyne: I know about GParted, I was asking if anyone had a guide so I wouldn't have to guess. I appreciate you trying to help, but if I was going to go off guesses and hope I'd just do it myself
[08:43] <Dark> bulmer no...infact, i am booting to the installed version right now to double check
[08:43] <andrej> RealTek : why don't you just say what your problem is?
[08:44] <Myrtti> usrl: well, basically the dualboot is adviced to to in the order of windows and then ubuntu, since windows doesn't like to coexists with any other os
[08:44] <jaggz> usrl, install windows and then you can try to use windows to boot linux, or use linux to boot windows (grub or lilo still I presume)
[08:44] <Myrtti> usrl: it overwrites your mbr
[08:44] <RealTek> andrej: Heya, anyone upgrade to the 2.6.22 kernel on Gutsy, it has caused a bit of a dilemma. I tend to blame the kernel on all my problems because it's the most sophisticated element in the system, but Gutsy locks on logon, although it works fine in root(recovery)
[08:44] <Myrtti> usrl: in most cases
[08:44] <jaggz> you'll have to do the boot loader thing after the windows install
[08:44] <bulmer> Dark-> just google for an interfaces file..and copy it.then modify accordingly
[08:44] <Myrtti> yup
[08:44] <usrl> Myrtti: Again, I know this. I'm just seeing if anyone has a guide for when that's not favorable.
[08:44] <Myrtti> !dualboot
[08:44] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:45] <jaggz> I'm thinking I have to get linux working first, and then maybe I can just use windows to boot it
[08:45] <Myrtti> I've got a feeling ther used to be a better factoid for that
[08:45] <balleyne> newbie-ubu: /etc/apt/sources.list - you can tell it to look at whatever repositories you want, is that what you're trying to do?
[08:46] <jaggz> I never got it to work, but I do have Windows XP Pro AND Linux entries in the Windows bootup :)
[08:46] <mMandora> how can i set my bios to boot from USB before CD and HDD? they have many options... (ie. USB-FLOPPY, USB-FDD, USB-DISKETTE with KEY, USB-CDROM) Which do i choose if any!?
[08:46] <Dark> bulmer yup...no internet on the installed version
[08:46] <newbie-ubu> yeah ok so if i tell it to use edgey eft then it will
[08:46] <vanchu> hello
[08:46] <jaggz> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:46] <ere4si> !hi
[08:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:46] <bulmer> Dark-> once more, please google for a sample interfaces file
[08:46] <vanchu> anyone know how to add desktops ?
[08:46] <mMandora> its a usb drive btw with bootable ubuntu 7.10 btw
[08:46] <jaggz> why can't the compiler create executables?  :)
[08:46] <erUSUL> jaggz: install build-essential
[08:47] <timandtom> I'm using Ubuntu 7.10, and have uTorrent running in Wine. I'm connected to a buncha peers and seeds, and my download speed is CRAP. Just wondering, probably a bad torrent, or somehow Ubuntus fault?
[08:47] <ere4si> vanchu: right click the ones you have
[08:47] <jaggz> ohh.. okay, thanks :)
[08:47] <jaggz> I'll give the windows-config.sys (or whatever it was) method a shot first
[08:47] <erUSUL> vanchu: right click on the desktop switcher > configure  (bottom right corner)
[08:47] <Dark> bulmer i have done that already, and what i found was exactly what i have....are you able to tell me some of what i am missing from my file?
[08:47] <Geoffrey2> does anyone know if a backup of the menu.lst file is saved anywhere?
[08:47] <zetheroo> printer sharing in Gutsy anyone?
[08:47] <tich> i have read on the forums that the new updates are breaking ubuntu, is that true?  how do i avoid it?
[08:47] <jaggz> it would be neat if a MS thing could get my linux booted
[08:47] <vanchu> thanks erUSL and ere4s1
[08:48] <jaggz> tich, if it's true.. don't update ?
[08:48] <bulmer> Dark-> you only have looked at one link, go and look for more samples
[08:48] <osfameron> gah.  Wireless at work doesn't like my ubuntu.  Sometimes the network manager claims that there is no network connection and takes down my eth1.  (Doesn't happen at home wireless, or anywhere else)
[08:48] <erUSUL> timandtom: i'v used utorrent myself and got good dl speed
[08:48]  * osfameron reboots, because, er, that works, and he doesn't know how else to fix it
[08:48] <friedtofu> timandtom: did you forward your ports? - my utorrent is decent
[08:48] <Dark> bulmer looking again
[08:48] <ere4si> Geoffrey2, if you change it a backup is made - in nautilus click edit then show hidden files
[08:48] <andrej> zetheroo : I'll have some;  got to get a printer on Ubuntu to work for a win98 machine, and don't know how.  File-sharing works fine
[08:48] <jaggz> okay.. but aside from that, since I"m not installing the boot loader, how can I boot my system once the install is done?
[08:49] <timandtom> erUSUL: So probably just a crappy torrent then? Some of the seeds say they are uploading @16kb/s, but I'm not getting above about 10kb/s
[08:49] <zetheroo> andrej: well I am trying to get it working between two gutsy machines
[08:49] <vanchu> I'm trying to get beryl to do all its cool stuff
[08:49] <jaggz> does the ubuntu install cd take a grub-like thing like:  boot root=(sdc,1) ?  I forgot
[08:49] <tich> jaggz, yes i won't.  did you do an update today?
[08:49] <timandtom> friedtofu: That thing in the window with the speedtest link when you first open it says my port is forwarded, but i could try a diff one
[08:49] <Unrealantidote> hello all, need a driver for my internal wireless on my averatec 3100 laptop, anyone have any ideas?
[08:49] <newbie-ubu> thanks balleyne that worked a treat
[08:49] <andrej> Oh ... I thought you were offering support; sorry.
[08:49] <jaggz> fresh install on a blank partition, tich
[08:49] <friedtofu> timandtom: seed/peer ratio? :/
[08:50] <Guza> hi
[08:50] <Guza> i have only one question
[08:50] <jaggz> I usually only used windows on this machine.. but I had a 3rd drive in here with hoary hedgehog on it
[08:50] <finchx6> anyone who might be able to help me get my sound working??lol.  I've found numerous sites explaining how, but i can't get them to work
[08:50] <timandtom> 12 seeds, 37 peers. 10kb/s down, 40kb/s up
[08:50] <Guza> what is the most secure FS
[08:50] <timandtom> my internet can handle a LOT more then that
[08:50] <timandtom> not just in tests, but in practice
[08:50] <bulmer> Dark-> it will be something like iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:50] <jaggz> Guza, probably one of the BSD's
[08:51] <Guza> heh
[08:51] <zetheroo> I get this error when I try to Verify a printer on the network :This print share is not accessible.
[08:51] <ere4si> timandtom, the ratio is the important bit
[08:51] <Guza> but i need for ubuntu
[08:51] <luke-jr> why is #ubuntu secret?
[08:51] <Guza> :D
[08:51] <Unrealantidote> hello all, I need a wireless driver for my averatec 3100 laptop, any ideas"
[08:51] <jaggz> but a while back there were some really lame performance issues with a few versions of them.. but that was years ago now
[08:51] <Unrealantidote> ?
[08:51] <ralth> Is there a way to revert to the sound drivers installed with 7.10?
[08:51] <jaggz> the most secure ubuntu??
[08:51] <ere4si> timandtom, seeds to peers
[08:51] <friedtofu> timandtom: meh, thats just the way bittorrent works - ... usually the longer you leave it the faster it goes - and i consider 20-30 KB/s good speed ... >.> lol... but you can get to higher levels if enough people ul to you
[08:51] <Guza> no
[08:51] <Guza> file system
[08:51] <Guza> ext2 3 etc
[08:51] <jaggz> secure file system?  never thought of them that way
[08:51] <jaggz> oh.. secure as in.. reliable
[08:52] <timandtom> ere4si: Yup, but still, i can handle way more then that, so i dont think that that the peers are bringing it down much
[08:52] <Guza> i must not lose my data
[08:52] <timandtom> friedtofu: :P Ha, I got Ubuntu via a torrent once... 1mb/s
[08:52] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: are you sure that even has wireless?
[08:52] <Guza> so i need very stable FS
[08:52] <jaggz> ext3 is pretty darn developed nowadays.. I'm going with it for mine over reiser, even though reiser is really efficient in many ways.. I just think ext3 is more tried and tested
[08:52] <odracir34> can i ask somthing.
[08:52] <mechanicus01> hello everybody , how do i install asterisk 1.416 ?
[08:52] <Dark> bulmer yeah, i tried to change it to that earlier, and it didnt work
[08:52] <jaggz> but I'm not an expert on this
[08:52] <ere4si> timandtom, the upload limit the seeders have is taken up because there are more peers
[08:52] <jaggz> by any means
[08:52] <friedtofu> timandtom: your 'net and mine are extremely polar
[08:52] <mechanicus01> i only see folders
[08:52] <Guza> ok
[08:52] <Guza> tnx for info
[08:53] <jaggz> remember, ext3 is journalled though
[08:53] <filemonkey> I need to be able to configure X with only bash running. Anyone know how?
[08:53] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  yes, this laptop has wireless, i had it working with vista, but, i hate microshaft and all other proprietary companies so i wiped it
[08:53] <jaggz> ext2 is not as reliable as ext3 :)
[08:53] <bulmer> Dark-> which nic card do you have on your desktop?
[08:53] <ere4si> timandtom, you play no part in that
[08:53] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: pastebin your lspci
[08:53] <jaggz> ext3 IS ext2 with journalling "on top"
[08:53] <Guza> hmmm
[08:53] <Guza> Journaling capabilities	No	Yes	Yes
[08:53] <odracir34> i hVE SOME FILMS FROM MY HOLLYDAY I WANT TO MAKE A DVD STRUCTURE, BUT IF I DO THAT WITH DEVEDE THEN HE MAKE A GREAT BIG VOB FILE AND I CAN NOT BURN IT..
[08:53] <Dark> bulmer its on the motherboard...ASUS A8N
[08:53] <Guza> ext2 ext3 raiserFS
[08:53] <timandtom> ere4si friedtofu: Meh, I basically just needed to know if it was Ubuntu screwing it over, or just my torrent. Looks like its the torrent then?
[08:53] <Unrealantidote> Luke-jr: I am not on the laptop atm, I am on my desktop gaming machine
[08:54] <jaggz> if you want reliability say yes.. mostly you'd say yes
[08:54] <odracir34> oeps caps
[08:54] <jaggz> it's a bit less efficient
[08:54] <Dark> bulmer there are two nics..i am using eth0
[08:54] <ere4si> timandtom, yep
[08:54] <jaggz> but with little to no question it's more reliable
[08:54] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: well, according to http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/averatec.html Averatec laptops are pre-WiFi
[08:54] <bulmer> Dark-> is it detected ?  do a  lspci
[08:54] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: so unless you can tell us what wireless chip it uses, nobody caqn help
[08:54] <Guza> well ext3
[08:54] <Guza> is yours suggestion
[08:54] <Guza> tnx again
[08:54] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  I will go into bios and figure it out real quick, brb
[08:55] <Guza> i was lose data 3 times
[08:55] <timandtom> ere4si: Ah, ok, thanks. Just wondering, because this is my usuall settings, and I have yet to have it this bad. But if its just the torrent, then I'll just  not worry about it. Thanks =]
[08:55] <Dark> bulmer yes, it detects both of them
[08:55] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: the bios is not likely to say
[08:55] <Guza> now i was buy hp g5 dl380 server
[08:55] <jaggz> losing data ?
[08:55] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  ok, websearch then
[08:55] <Guza> yes
[08:55] <Guza> raiserFS is so unstable
[08:55] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: good luck
[08:55] <jaggz> is that what you were using?
[08:55] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  it is a 3200 sorry
[08:55] <ere4si> timandtom,  every client prog says to have more seeders than peers for that reason
[08:56] <bulmer> Dark-> i'd still try this   iface eth0 inet dhcp on that file
[08:56] <Guza> yes
[08:56] <jaggz> so I'm making a good choice in switching back to ext3 now then :)
[08:56] <Guza> :)
[08:56] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: ah, big difference ☺
[08:56] <Guza> i was have 2 TB data
[08:56] <ere4si> darryn: did the live cd work ok? - take you to the desktop?
[08:56] <Guza> :S
[08:56] <jaggz> http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/2002-January/038045.html
[08:56] <darryn> no it freezes
[08:56] <jaggz> ext3 vs reiserfs convo.. from 2002 though
[08:56] <darryn> on the same screen
[08:56] <Dark> bulmer trying it right now...do i need to replace the lo stuff with this?
[08:57] <jaggz> anyway.. I'll stick with ext3 -- I've been using it on some servers for years now
[08:57] <Guza> hehe
[08:57] <bulmer> Dark->  no not the lo
[08:57] <Unrealantidote> not used to such a crappy laptop
[08:57] <darryn> i couldnt even install ubuntu untill i used the alternative
[08:57] <Guza> i will always use
[08:57] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: looks like there's 2 different wireless chipsets used in those models
[08:57] <Guza> raiserFS
[08:57] <jaggz> I think it's been put through a lot and is the most used, and therefore the most tested, developed, and cleaned up, as far as these fs's go
[08:57] <Guza> is more faster than ext3
[08:57] <darryn> i did manage to log in on the root
[08:57] <Dark> bulmer so i would add the eth0 stuff below the lo stuff..right?
[08:57] <jaggz> maybe there's some awesome one by some commercial unix vendor, but I don't know
[08:58] <ere4si> darryn: you need to google for the install instructions for you hardware then - what is the comp - should have asked earlier :)
[08:58] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  hmm, guess i could try one driver and then the other if the first doesnt work
[08:58] <jaggz> yeah, and handles small files better, etc.
[08:58] <train> its always something, flash wont sintall
[08:58] <bulmer> Dark-> you have not really googled and read stuff i asked you to do...
[08:58] <darryn> i made it
[08:58] <jaggz> but I would prefer reliability
[08:58] <jaggz> so I think we've made our choice :)
[08:58] <Guza> :D
[08:58] <darryn> i had absolutly no problem loading windows on here
[08:58] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  you have a link to snatch files from?
[08:58] <Dark> bulmer yes i did...infact, i am looking at a few pages right now
[08:58] <Guza> watch this
[08:58] <darryn> cept a faulty ram stik
[08:58] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: for the first, just make sure your kernel is at least 2.6.17
[08:58] <darryn> but thats gone
[08:58] <Guza> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/calish_filesys.html
[08:58] <bulmer> Dark-> those samples would show that..
[08:59] <ere4si> darryn: motherboard cpu etc is what you need to ask google for\
[08:59] <luke-jr> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[08:59] <jaggz> I'll try.. running on a ubuntu install cd right now :)
[08:59] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  it is the latest version of ubuntu....whatever that is
[08:59] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: that's nice. Ubuntu has two "latest" versions, and I don't use either
[08:59] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr: I just downloaded it
[08:59] <Dark> bulmer the "samples" i am looking at have either or
[08:59] <luke-jr> uname -a will tell you what kernel version
[08:59] <jaggz> oh.. 'read' this..  ?  :)
[08:59] <Guza> :D
[08:59] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr:  I am sure it has an updated kernal
[09:00] <bulmer> Dark-> try them both and get the feel for what happens..
[09:00] <darryn> my processor is an intel pentium d and the motherboard came in a combo pak
[09:00] <Dark> bulmer will do...trying
[09:00] <darryn> i cant imagine ubuntu having problems wit that
[09:00] <Dark> bulmer and by the way..thanks for helping me out so far
[09:00] <Geoffrey2> ere4si, problem being, ubuntu won't boot, period...so I'm trying to fix my problem by reading the drive from Windows, and reading a backed up menu.lst file, which doesn't seem to exist
[09:00] <luke-jr> Unrealantidote: the other possibility is rt2x00; didn't find any good sites about it, but apparently Ubuntu supports it
[09:01] <bulmer> Dark no problem..i think you are getting close..dont want to spoil the fun of learning it by trying
[09:01] <Dark> bulmer ah..you are one of THOSE people...lol
[09:01] <ere4si> Geoffrey2, nothing with a ~menu.lst?
[09:02] <train> I'm getting this error when I try and install flash : md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9......
[09:02] <Dark> bulmer how do i restart networking
[09:02] <bulmer> Dark-> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:03] <luke-jr> train: it's trying to give you a hint that you are doing something wrong
[09:03] <zloog> Hi, whats going on when only one program can be using sound at any given time? How do I start trying to resolve that.
[09:03] <jaggz> Guza: I kinda wish I could comfortably use reiserfs
[09:03] <train> well its synaptic
[09:03] <train> I dont know what else I could do to make things go right
[09:04] <Zenerek> well i was gonna tell Dark the same thing except i did not know the name of the netwroking service...who knew it would be that simple name
[09:04] <luke-jr> train: "installing Flash" is what you're doing wrong ☺
[09:04] <train> does the md5sum error mean there is something wrong witht he file I have?
[09:04] <Unrealantidote> luke-jr: RT2500 wireless
[09:04] <train> luke-jr: lets all go back to terminals
[09:04] <Guza> do u have sometimes problems with hdds
[09:04] <Guza> ?
[09:05] <Guza> on ext3
[09:05] <Geoffrey2> I see a menu.lst~ but it looks identical to menu.lst
[09:05] <luke-jr> train: sure, though I prefer to keep Konq and Konsole around
[09:05] <jaggz> I have some hardware problems with a couple drives in this one server
[09:05] <luke-jr> Geoffrey2: ~ is a backup
[09:05] <jaggz> my new server has more than one cpu so it'd be nice to utilize that I think?
[09:05] <jaggz> reiser seems to scale it says
[09:05] <Guza> hehehe
[09:05] <Guza> :D
[09:06] <Guza> what u running on server?
[09:06] <GeorgeA> is there an ogre3d .deb package somewhere?
[09:06] <Dark> bulmer well...i am truly stuck....i cant get it to connect
[09:07] <jaggz> I'm gonna use ext3 I think.. after reading the article I'm probably going to stick with it
[09:07] <jaggz> with ext3
[09:07] <Guza> :)
[09:07] <Guza> of course
[09:07] <jaggz> I am using a lot of small files.. but I'm moving away from that to try SQL
[09:07] <jaggz> which is scary for me :)
[09:07] <Dark> bulmer trying one other thing
[09:07] <Guza> hehehehehhee
[09:07] <jaggz> because I'm aware of the differences in caching
[09:07] <bulmer> Dark are you even getting any ip address at all?
[09:07] <jaggz> but with our new servers and the amount of ram it shouldn't matter I think
[09:08] <luke-jr> jaggz: SQL isn't a filesystem anyhow
[09:08] <luke-jr> yet
[09:08] <Guza> how much ram u have
[09:08] <Guza> now
[09:08] <jaggz> of course it's not
[09:08] <Dark> bulmer when i restart networking, it tries to get an ip address from my router...but never seems to get one
[09:08] <train> okay got it installed adobe flash installer 1 synaptic 0
[09:08] <jaggz> I was discussing my reason for fs choices.. many small files are my way of storing a lot of data
[09:08] <luke-jr> train: boo
[09:09] <Zenerek> does anyone know to change that screen after grub?you know the one where your services are being loaded, i would have found a tut but i don't know what the screen is called.
[09:09] <jaggz> useful because the oft-hit ones stay cached, and the others are out of the way
[09:09] <luke-jr> train: now to uninstall it
[09:09] <train> gotta have my youtube fix luke-jr
[09:09] <train> neva
[09:09] <luke-jr> train: Adobe products exist for destroying
[09:09] <jaggz> yet, the oft-hit ones also keep their various other bits of data adjacent, and therefore also more often in the cached blocks
[09:09] <andrew[andrboot]> mm.
[09:09] <train> yeah now to install photoshop
[09:09] <luke-jr> using Adobe is no better than using Microsoft
[09:10] <jaggz> when we switch to sql, storing these in there is going to disassociate the records from each other, flattening the field and being more wasteful of memory
[09:10] <jaggz> I don't yet have a solution for it
[09:10] <train> what would you have me do
[09:10] <jaggz> but I hope with enough memory the caching will account for it
[09:10] <bulmer> Dark->  well i dont know why your dhcp server is not dolling out one to your pc.
[09:10] <train> gnash?
[09:10] <Guza> uff
[09:10] <train> for some reason that terd didn't work either
[09:10] <luke-jr> train: refuse to use websites wanting Flash
[09:10] <Guza> what are u running on servers?
[09:10] <jaggz> if there were some way of telling SQL to keep the data close together.. maybe that would work.. or if I could have a million tables -- then maybe that's the solution
[09:10] <Dark> bulmer well..my router sees the mac address of my box
[09:11] <luke-jr> Guza: Gentoo and Debian here
[09:11] <jaggz> but I don't know if I can reasonably have millionS of tables
[09:11] <train> yeah good luck with that
[09:11] <jaggz> Guza, they're web servers.. data's being served from flat text files and Berkeley DBs
[09:11] <luke-jr> jaggz: you most certainly can't have millions of files
[09:11] <jaggz> hundreds of thousands of them
[09:11] <Guza> aham
[09:11] <Dark> bulmer trying one other thing....i will disconnect for a sec, but will be right back
[09:12] <jaggz> right now it's about a half million files
[09:12] <Guza> how much web servers you have
[09:12] <Geoffrey2> luke-jr, well then I have no idea what happened, because the optional parameter that allowed ubuntu to boot existed in the menu.lst file before the last bug fix for the kernel two or so days ago, now it's not appearing in either menu.lst file, and Ubuntu won't boot at all.....
[09:12] <jaggz> one server dishes it all out.. the service is coded in C "so" it's very efficient
[09:12] <luke-jr> Geoffrey2: btw, menu.lst is obsolete; grub.conf replaced it
[09:12] <jaggz> and the way I designed the db access is efficient
[09:12] <Guza> do u think to make clusters
[09:12] <jaggz> but it's not efficient for backing up or running through all the data which requires jumping to tons of files..
[09:13] <jaggz> no need for clusters yet
[09:13] <Guza> if u have problems with resource u will need
[09:13] <_Casey_> i need a dvd player for my ubuntu
[09:13] <luke-jr> jaggz: filesystems are not designed to handle millions of small files in one place
[09:13] <jaggz> then I also make some other optimizations, like generating a single file of the main page (the most frequently accessed page) of a section
[09:14] <_Casey_> whats the best
[09:14] <luke-jr> jaggz: databases are
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> well, in either case, until I track down wherever I found the workaround for the kernel bug, Ubuntu's not loading on my computer at all....sigh....
[09:14] <jaggz> then just one file is hit and displayed, without having to hundreds of DB lookups
[09:14] <_Casey_> totem movie player cant play my dvd
[09:14] <Neronious> what is the name of the screen that pops up after GRUB but before the login screen it has a loading bar and says Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:14] <luke-jr> _Casey_: you assume there are any good DVD players ☺
[09:15] <Casey> vlc player ftw
[09:15] <jaggz> luke, they're distributed, clustered in groups of 1000 directories, each containing from 3 to 5 files (sometimes more)
[09:15] <_Casey_> well i need one to play this movie ;x
[09:15] <luke-jr> jaggz: db is designed to handle it
[09:15] <jaggz> but it's awful to jump through these files.. so that's exactly why I'm moving it to a unified DB
[09:15] <jaggz> but, consider a messageboard site storing posts
[09:15] <jaggz> consider them having hundreds of thousands of messageboards
[09:15] <zetheroo> ok I got print sharing to work.... was there someone who needed help with that here?
[09:15] <luke-jr> _Casey_: technically, anything for Ubuntu that *can* play your DVD is probably illegal (in the US)
[09:15] <jaggz> when you hit one board, how are the messages stored?
[09:16] <jaggz> how *should* they be stored?
[09:16] <_Casey_> your kidding me
[09:16] <tijn> i have a weird problem,  fglrx worked just fine, suddenly everything is software rendered, the module fglrx is loaded but just won't work anymore, is this a known problem?
[09:16] <_Casey_> i just want to watch my movie
[09:16] <luke-jr> _Casey_: your movie's producers don't want you to unless you let them own your computer
[09:16] <jaggz> ugh
[09:16] <_Casey_> no, i can stick my dvd in a windows comp and use it
[09:17] <luke-jr> _Casey_: because Windows lets them own your computer
[09:17] <andrew[andrboot]> exactly :)
[09:17] <andrew[andrboot]> luke-jr knows what he is talkinga about :) lol
[09:17] <jaggz> 0wn3d-style too
[09:18] <luke-jr> _Casey_: there are programs that will automagically crack your DVD's encryption though, to play it in Ubuntu
[09:18] <luke-jr> but they are illegal in the US
[09:18] <jaggz> new software protection things are now reminding me of not being much better than being hacked.. but hopefully they don't pick on the small guy who's just trying to live.
[09:18] <luke-jr> that said, I've never heard of anyone enforcing it
[09:18] <jaggz> I've played my DVDs using xine
[09:18] <jaggz> I like it too
[09:18] <jaggz> very good with its forward-backward with ctrl/alt/shift adjustment for # of seconds
[09:18] <_Casey_> i need to crack it then? hmm
[09:19] <luke-jr> _Casey_: a human can't crack it
[09:19] <luke-jr> programs can do so fairly quick
[09:19] <_Casey_> no i need the program i mean
[09:19] <luke-jr> yeah
[09:19] <Romes> alright... I'm sure you hate these questions... but... my wifi card isn't working, so I tried to install the linux driver found on the ASUS site, which didn't work. Then I tried to install ndiswrapper... which also didn't work. So I finally cracked and came here :P
[09:19] <Geoffrey2> _Casey_, actually, the simple solution is to install libdvdcss
[09:19] <_6StringKng_> is there a 2.3.1 .deb of Pidgin for Gutsy yet?
[09:19] <JakeConnor> is it possible to setup apache to accept putting a file on the server from http with a user name and password that's in a htaccess file? basically i want to setup a quick program that uploads a file to a http address (http://myhost.com/uploads/youraccount/) and protect it with a user name and password setup via htaccess, is this possible with just apache?
[09:19] <kakoonia> hey, is there anyone here with a ATI X1950 PRO - AGP graphics card, that could install it proparely, and enabled Desktop Effects?
[09:19] <luke-jr> most movie players for Linux have it integrated
[09:19] <luke-jr> kakoonia: I think you need to wait another year for that, sorry
[09:19] <jaggz> xine plays almost everything I throw at it :)
[09:20] <Romes> I know saying "it didn't work" is vague, but I don't want to start spouting error info unless someone here is listening :P
[09:20] <luke-jr> jaggz: yeah, by cracking it first ☺
[09:20] <jaggz> including when I installed windows codecs so it can play .wmv files too now
[09:20] <jaggz> I don't think it handles the little movies that come from my old cell phone though.
[09:20] <fabouney-> Plop
[09:20] <_6StringKng_> is there a .deb for Pidgin for Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon yet?
[09:20] <_Casey_> libdvdread?
[09:20] <Romes> nobody?
[09:20] <kakoonia> luke-jr: ohh... wow. that bad? not even a slight chance?
[09:20] <jaggz> only .. quicktime handled that
[09:21] <luke-jr> kakoonia: not for 3D
[09:21] <luke-jr> kakoonia: the drivers are still in development
[09:21] <Geoffrey2> _Casey_, libdvdcss
[09:21] <jaggz> okay, I'm gonna head out for now
[09:21] <kakoonia> luke-jr: ok budd. thanks
[09:21] <jaggz> you might see me back sometime :)
[09:21] <luke-jr> kakoonia: at least it's not a nVidia card though ☺
[09:21] <Suva> _6StringKng_: There has always been
[09:21] <jaggz> later luke
[09:21] <_6StringKng_> okay, mind pointing me in the direction?
[09:21] <Romes> anybody know why installing ndiswrapper isn't working?
[09:21] <luke-jr> kakoonia: ATI/AMD are at least helping driver development ☺
[09:21] <Suva> _6StringKng_: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[09:21] <jaggz> _6StringKng_: hmm
[09:22] <Zenerek> luke-jr:  just go to ubuntu .com and find the section with guides...or you could try ubuntu guide.org  but i'm not sure if that is the right url
[09:22] <Romes> ... weeeeee :(
[09:22] <_6StringKng_> okay, if there was a .deb, for 2.3.1, wouldnt I have received that when I run update manager
[09:22] <luke-jr> Zenerek: wtf?
[09:22] <_6StringKng_> which I heavnt, unless I need to add something to my repostory of course
[09:22] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Ah, you want 2.3.1?
[09:22] <ali_> hi
[09:22] <theTrav> ok, got my iPod sorted out, now for the network
[09:22] <_6StringKng_> thats what I said wasnt it, lol
[09:22] <Zenerek> heh sorry that was meant for cassey
[09:22] <_6StringKng_> ah nvm
[09:23] <_6StringKng_> missed 2.3.1 in my last post, osrry
[09:23] <_6StringKng_> sorry*
[09:23] <Geoffrey2> _Casey_, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:23] <_Casey_> 7.10
[09:23] <_Casey_> the newest
[09:23] <theTrav> I set up my desktop for windows style sharing of a few folder,s but when I try to connect to it from winXP the winXP box prompts for a password
[09:23] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Well, if there aren't right now, it might come sooner or later
[09:23] <mechanicus01> need help:: how do i "run" make to initialize asterisk?
[09:23] <theTrav> is there a way for me to grant access without needing a password?
[09:23] <luke-jr> you know, Linux users should all buy some DVD and start a class action lawsuit against the producers for denying them their fair use rights to play it :þ
[09:23] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Wasn't 2.3.1 an security update?
[09:24] <_6StringKng_> considering I'm running 2.2.1, I would like to have the newest one available
[09:24] <pegel> help me please?
[09:24] <JakeConnor> how do i configure webdav for apache to allow putting files through http to a specific directory on my server?
[09:24] <Zenerek> i heared that the codec game has been improved in newer versions( still running dapper) nut i guess you still have to enable dvd playback?
[09:24] <Neronious> what is the name of the screen that pops up after GRUB but before the login screen it has a loading bar and says Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:24] <mechanicus01> reading the installation guide and it says run "make " but how do i do that?
[09:24] <pegel> i'm configuring chillispot
[09:24] <tijn> i have a weird problem,  fglrx worked just fine, suddenly everything is software rendered, the module fglrx is loaded but just won't work anymore, is this a known problem?
[09:24] <theTrav> anyone?
[09:25] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Maybe it's in backports
[09:25] <peter__> ii
[09:25] <kakoonia> luke-jr: ive got nvidia card as a matter of fact, its my friends laptop :) too bad for him. btw: he spoke with ati technical support, and they told him, that they dont support linux..
[09:25] <luke-jr> kakoonia: no doubt, most technical support don't
[09:25] <luke-jr> kakoonia: support comes from the Linux community
[09:25] <Suva> _6StringKng_: But you can always compile it from source
[09:25] <Blu3pr1nt> does nvidia supports linux?
[09:26] <pegel> client has ip but couldn't browse server
[09:26] <pegel> i'm checking using wireshark
[09:26] <_Casey_> i just want to watch my movie :/
[09:26] <_6StringKng_> ah, yeah I could try, but have never done anything like that, lol
[09:26] <Neronious> Blu3pr1nt: nvidia supplies linux drivers from their website
[09:26] <kakoonia> luke-jr: :{}
[09:26] <pegel> what should i do then?
[09:26] <Blu3pr1nt> ok i'll look for them ^^ thanks ^^
[09:27] <luke-jr> Blu3pr1nt: Linux has 2D support for nVidia chips
[09:27] <Zenerek> casey http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy there noew read
[09:27] <NaNO2x> hello, has anyone had a problem where boot cds wont work but reading cds from within an os works fine?
[09:27] <Blu3pr1nt> i've got a new DX10 nVidia cart...is there DX10 Support yet?
[09:27] <luke-jr> Blu3pr1nt: nVidia "supports" Linux *users* by forcing them to "pirate" drivers
[09:27] <luke-jr> Blu3pr1nt: DirectX crap is Windows-only
[09:28] <Blu3pr1nt> oh yes ..sry i've forgot...
[09:28] <kraut> moin
[09:28] <vanchu> I have a quick question, I'm installing ubuntu right now and I need to say wich partition is the root
[09:28] <vanchu> how do I do that ?
[09:28] <Suva> _6StringKng_: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin
[09:28] <Blu3pr1nt> ok thx guys I'll go and look for my drivers
[09:28] <Suva> _6StringKng_: This will download all dependencies for the build
[09:29] <luke-jr> Blu3pr1nt: should've got an ATi or Intel chip
[09:29] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Then download the source, ./configure; make; sudo make install
[09:29] <_6StringKng_> k, will do
[09:29] <Suva> sung_: And don't forget to remove ubuntu pidgin before
[09:29] <_6StringKng_> do I need to remove the old one first via synaptic?
[09:29] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Yeah, it would be clever
[09:29] <_6StringKng_> k
[09:29] <_6StringKng_> well, thanks, hope this all works
[09:30] <_Casey_> i did what it said
[09:30] <_Casey_> but nothing
[09:31] <Suva> _6StringKng_: PM me or put my name in front of the sentence when you have problems, because I don't monitor the window actively.
[09:31] <Zenerek> Suva:  I built pidgin in dapper and am using right now, what i wanted to ask was when i tried build-depp it told me it some folder or other or something did not exist,also some of the repos ubuntu us somthing won't work and i already tried that repo generator
[09:31] <_6StringKng_> k, will do
[09:31] <_6StringKng_> SuvaL will do :P
[09:31] <_6StringKng_> AH
[09:31] <_6StringKng_> Suva*
[09:32] <Suva> :)
[09:32] <_6StringKng_> Suva: should I remove "Pidgin" or everything that has to do with pidgin, liek pidgin-data?
[09:32] <_Casey_> omgomgomg
[09:32] <Suva> _6StringKng_: Well, you don't need other packages connected with pidgin either
[09:32] <_Casey_> xine is playing my dvd
[09:33] <flibberdy> hi all, I installed ubuntu yesterday and I have a few problems: how do I change my keyboard config from US to UK? xorg.conf appears to be empty
[09:33] <Suva> _6StringKng_: But synaptic should automatically ask if you want to remove those too
[09:33]  * _Casey_ falls out of chair
[09:33] <_6StringKng_> k
[09:33] <Suva> _Casey_: Yeah, that is what xine is intended for
[09:33] <Zenerek> thought you said nothing happened...you see sometimes you have to restart app for changes to happen
[09:33] <_Casey_> ill be back
[09:34] <revilodraw> i have an inspiron with an x1400 graphics card; will desktop effects be impossible for me?
[09:34] <flibberdy> also, I need the ieee80211 module, but i can't modprobe it as it doesn't seem to be compiled. how do I create this module?
[09:34] <Zenerek> i use vlc and as i recall is that not gstreamer based?
[09:36] <the-trav> hmm.  messing with wireless, I can see my target network on the list, and when I select it I get prompted for a wireless key, however when I enter it and click connect, it tries for a while and then just stops
[09:37] <the-trav> unfortunately it doesn't tell me why it has stopped
[09:37] <the-trav> anyone know if that would be logged somewhere I can get at?
[09:38] <revilodraw> the-trav; have u tried the forums? also, check u r using the right type of encryption (ie 128bit, etc)
[09:38] <the-trav> revilodraw, I checked the encryption, 128 bit hex, WEP open system
[09:39] <the-trav> ahh found it
[09:39] <the-trav> syslog
[09:39] <flibberdy> can anyone tell me if there's some magic command to get my intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG to appear as a network device?
[09:39] <the-trav> association took to long (>60s), failing activation
[09:39] <flibberdy> at the moment, iwconfig doesn't show the card at all
[09:39] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, i think you need firmware for it, try the restricted drivers manager
[09:40] <flibberdy> MasterShrek: I'm new to ubuntu (a gentoo vet though), what's the restricted drivers manager?
[09:40] <revilodraw> i have an inspiron with an x1400 graphics card; will desktop effects be impossible for me?
[09:40] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, its ubuntu's way of installing proprietary drivers and stuff, im on slackware atm, but i think its under system > administration
[09:40] <windego40> hello
[09:41] <MasterShrek> !hi
[09:41] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:41] <MasterShrek> :)
[09:41] <flibberdy> thanks MasterShrek
[09:41] <MasterShrek> no prob
[09:41] <mrpur> hello
[09:41] <david__> hello
[09:41] <windego40> could someone possibly help me get my wireless usb adapter to work on my comp?
[09:42] <windego40> Hello :)
[09:42] <NaNO2x> anyone had a cd drive that wont spin up when trying to boot to a cd but works fine otherwise
[09:42] <Zenerek> thought it sounded strange must be somthing they added after dapper
[09:42] <david__> i have problem i do web server is working but when i do from my server or othere computer interlan www.davidtanti.com go to my cisco gui
[09:42] <david__> can some help re this
[09:43] <MasterShrek> david__, i think im connecting to your /var/www directory
[09:43] <david__> what can i do re this problem master
[09:44] <MasterShrek> david__, put the files that you want visible in /var/www
[09:44] <david__> how can i  go to var www
[09:44] <mechanicus01> hello everybody how do i "run" make to initialize asterisk?
[09:45] <flibberdy> david, cd /var/www ?
[09:45] <mechanicus01> i am trying to install asterisk 1.4.16 on Ubuntu
[09:45] <MasterShrek> !info asterisk
[09:45] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.10~dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 2033 kB, installed size 5264 kB
[09:45] <mechanicus01> all i see is folders
[09:45] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, just enable universe and apt-get it
[09:45] <david__> can i move this items from var www
[09:45] <david__> and put my
[09:45] <ActySofts> hello everyone
[09:46] <mechanicus01> macd
[09:46] <revilodraw> is it possible to use my laptop hotkeys on the front of my laptop to control exaile?
[09:46] <ActySofts> well, I'm the one with the sound problems:  If I try to use any piece of software to change the volume or mute/unmute any channels, I can't, because the volume is locked at 100% for everything ad PCM is muted (and locked), thus I have no sound (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48936/); I'm using Gutsy
[09:46] <flibberdy> revilodraw: does dmesg say anything when you press the hotkeys?
[09:46] <mechanicus01> master_of_master enable it where?
[09:46] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, system > administration > software sources
[09:47] <revilodraw> flibberdy: what is dmesg?
[09:47] <revilodraw> actysofts: check u r using the right sound device
[09:47] <flibberdy> revilodraw: it's a way of checking system output messages
[09:47] <ActySofts> revilodraw: I am
[09:48] <flibberdy> revilodraw: type: dmesg
[09:48] <ActySofts> I only got one, by onboard sound card is disabled from the bios
[09:48] <flibberdy> revilodraw: then press a key, and then run dmesg again, note any differences
[09:48] <flibberdy> s/key/hotkey
[09:48] <revilodraw> flibberdy; nope, no differences
[09:49] <flibberdy> that makes it a little bit trickier.. gimme a sec to check an old howto I have
[09:50] <david__> i go to var www but i cant delete the apaice ones
[09:50] <MasterShrek> revilodraw, open a terminal and type xev   mouse over the box that pops up and start hitting hotkeys, see if the messages in the terminal show keycodes for those keys, if so, note which keycodes go with which keys, then let me know
[09:51] <musikgoat> hi, server side, anyone know if you can just limit root access via ssh to only with a private key exchange?   other users should still be able to access with no changes?  I know of the apache.conf setting for blocking root, any suggestions for this?
[09:52] <flibberdy> revilodraw: check out the guide to using xev at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys I know it's gentoo but the basic concepts are the same ( i hope)
[09:52] <mechanicus01> master_of_master where do i access the apt get it?
[09:53] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install asterisk
[09:53] <flibberdy> by the dark one, it takes a long time to compile and package up a kernel in ubuntu :/
[09:53] <ActySofts> If I try to use any piece of software to change the volume or mute/unmute any channels, I can't, because the volume is locked at 100% for everything ad PCM is muted (and locked), thus I have no sound (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48936/); I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) BTW.
[09:53] <david__>  13 any one can help me i am var www but i dont have permasion to delter put my
[09:54] <flibberdy> david__: sudo <whatever commands you want to use>
[09:54] <punkshui> Anyone familiar with gnome power management? I"m having battery recognition problems
[09:54] <mechanicus01> master_of_master tis now installing... :)
[09:54] <MasterShrek> ActySofts, just humor me and put your user in the audio group then log out and back in, i doubt its gonna work, but worth a shot
[09:54] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, my name is MasterShrek :) good news though :)
[09:55] <david__> flibberdy i cant understand  can you exply
[09:55] <ActySofts> MasterShrek: it is there....
[09:55] <flibberdy> david__: type: sudo su
[09:55] <musikgoat> david__: sudo rm /var/www/fileyouwanttodelete
[09:55] <MasterShrek> hrm
[09:55] <MasterShrek> ActySofts, i got nothin then...
[09:56] <david__> sudo su not found it
[09:56] <david__> coman not found
[09:56] <david__> comand not found
[09:56] <Geoffrey2> whew....I finally found the command, hpet=disable, that I need to load ubuntu
[09:56] <Scusio> when i start the ubuntu live cd 6.06 and 7.10 it stops booting at the 2nd line: "Mounting boot...."
[09:56] <flibberdy> david__: what about sudo touch test ?
[09:57] <Geoffrey2> now, where do I need to place that kernel option so that it'll be used every time, even if a new kernel is installed?
[09:57] <ActySofts> sudo su? don't use 'su' with 'sudo'
[09:57] <flibberdy> ActySofts: gives you a root prompt
[09:57] <flibberdy> saves me quite a lot of excess typing
[09:58] <sunogbaga> su - switch user
[09:58] <ActySofts> root is disabled by def, use 'sudo -i' to get root
[09:58] <MasterShrek> Geoffrey2, /boot/grub/menu.list (or menu.lst cant remeber if theres an i or not) youll probably have to add the parameter manually whenever a new kernel is installed
[09:58] <david__> apache2-default can remove
[09:58] <dyce> hey, anyone familiar with mini images for games? (virtual cds and stuff)
[09:58] <_6StringKng_> compiled Pidgin, ran ./configure, make, sudo make install, then got this error
[09:59] <_6StringKng_> coty@6StringKng-Laptop:~/Desktop/pidgin-2.3.1$ pidgin
[09:59] <_6StringKng_> pidgin: error while loading shared libraries: libpurple.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:59] <Geoffrey2> ok, someone was telling me menu.lst was obsolete and had been replaced by something else.....
[09:59] <_6StringKng_> start up manager
[09:59] <MasterShrek> _6StringKng_, why did you compile it from source?
[09:59] <MasterShrek> Geoffrey2, i dont think so, but i dont know for sure i guess, i dont use ubuntu anymore
[09:59] <_6StringKng_> because I couldn't find a deb
[09:59] <sunogbaga> _6StringKng_: y install from source, when u couldve sudo apt-get install pidgin
[09:59] <musikgoat> _6StringKng_: install pidgin-dev i believe
[10:00] <MasterShrek> !info pidgin
[10:00] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[10:00] <_6StringKng_> I want 2.3.1
[10:00] <MasterShrek> !latest
[10:00] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:00] <flibberdy> ok, i give up. For some absolutely bizarre reason I cannot get my wireless card working in ubuntu. The docs all say it's supported out of the box
[10:00] <_6StringKng_> great, all that work for nothing
[10:00] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, i dont have experience with the ipw2200.....wait.....try modprobe'ing ipw2200
[10:00] <mechanicus01> MasterShrek it finished installing , but i dont see it anywhere
[10:01] <musikgoat> _6StringKng_: if you want it, you just need libpurple
[10:01] <flibberdy> MasterShrek: ipw2200 is loaded already
[10:01] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, i dont even know what its supposed to do, but its installed :P
[10:01] <MasterShrek> hrm
[10:01] <flibberdy> oh wait.. now it won't load
[10:01] <flibberdy> GAH
[10:01] <mechanicus01> yup,,, i installed asterisk
[10:01] <MasterShrek> sorry flibberdy, like i said ive never used one, my friend had one a while back, i seem to remember he needed firmware or soemthing, im sure if you google it youll find some :)
[10:01] <mechanicus01> restart cpu?
[10:01] <pavs> how can I check what services are running in my system?
[10:02] <musikgoat> pavs: ps -aux
[10:02] <MasterShrek> mechanicus01, what is aseterisk supposed to do?
[10:02] <musikgoat> or other variants
[10:02] <void^> _6StringKng_: you probably installed into /usr/local without having /usr/local/lib in your library path, or you didn't follow pidgin's installation instructions correctly.
[10:02] <sunogbaga> pavs: system -> administration -> services
[10:02] <pavs> musikgoat ps -aux list all the application I am running, right? I need service, ie apache.
[10:03] <mechanicus01> MasterShrek *sorry asterisk
[10:03] <ActySofts> I added myself to the audio group (again, 40000th time), no change
[10:03] <flibberdy> MasterShrek: yeah i downloaded the firmware.. but make always fails :/
[10:03] <pavs> sunogbaga i need command line specifically :)
[10:03] <_6StringKng_> hehe, it works, thanks musikgoatg
[10:03] <punkshui> anyone, battery problems?
[10:03] <_6StringKng_> musikgoat*
[10:03] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, i never heard of compiling firmware
[10:03] <_6StringKng_> all I needed was libpurple0
[10:03] <sunogbaga> pavs: ps aux
[10:03] <flibberdy> well, the firmware i've not got to yet
[10:03] <sunogbaga> pavs: or top
[10:03] <Scusio> when i start the ubuntu live cd 6.06 and 7.10 it stops booting at the 2nd line: "Mounting boot....(devices?)"
[10:03] <david__> hihi
[10:03] <flibberdy> i have to upgrade the ieee80211 stack before i can use the firmware
[10:04] <david__> ok
[10:04] <simion314> hi, in this new Gnomw version my windows have not a title bar:image  http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/simion314/Screenshot-1.png
[10:04] <musikgoat> _6StringKng_: your welcome
[10:04] <pavs> ok thanks
[10:04] <pavs> exit linuxhaxor.net
[10:04] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, how do you know? it may be updated now, its a pretty late kernel
[10:04] <david__> ok
[10:04] <Zenerek> well this blows according to a tutorial the only way to change the screen where your services are loading is to recomplie your kernel with a patch
[10:05] <void^> _6StringKng_: libpurple is part of pidgin, mixing different versions may cause problems (just keep that in mind when it crashes or behaves weirdly.)
[10:05] <musikgoat> heh, he's gone
[10:05] <musikgoat> anyone know if you can just limit root access via ssh to only with a private key exchange?   other users should still be able to access with no changes?  I know of the apache.conf setting for blocking root, any suggestions for this?
[10:08] <flibberdy> hmm.. i think i'mjust gonna reinstall ubuntu
[10:08] <punkshui> anyone know how to get gnome-power-management to recognize a battery?
[10:08] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, are you on a fresh install right now?
[10:09] <MasterShrek> punkshui, i never had a problem with it recognizing a battery before, how new of a laptop?
[10:09] <punkshui> about a year
[10:09] <punkshui> old
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> Hey.. if i have 4 gigs of ram
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> will ubuntu run fine on it?
[10:09] <MasterShrek> shouldnt have any problems....i wonder if you need to load some modules...
[10:10] <musikgoat> i think you would suffer from 32bit memory size problems?
[10:10] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, yes just fine, you need a 64 bit kernel or a custom compiled one to make use of more than 3 gigs of ram though
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> I'd like to avoid 64-bit
[10:10] <flibberdy> yes MasterShrek, installed via pxe and i think somethin went wrong
[10:10] <MasterShrek> the server kernel will make use of 3+ gigs of ram too, but it doesnt have a restricted drivers package if u need it
[10:10] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, can i ask why?
[10:10] <david__> i am var www but i dont have the permasion to delate a file what can i do
[10:10] <MasterShrek> flibberdy, its possible, ive never done it that way before
[10:10] <arooni> is there a free dyndns service that i can run on ubuntu?
[10:11] <MasterShrek> david__, use sudo
[10:11] <MasterShrek> !sudo | david__
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> MasterShrek: i'm getting a dell laptop with 4 gigs ram.
[10:11] <ubotu> david__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:11] <Teknomancer> I installed Ubuntu (on a newly made JFS partition) on my second hard-disk's first partition... i did not install grub because i use a solaris' specialized grub, i have had no problems before adding ubuntu manually to solaris' grub, but this time i chose JFS and not reiser, I get an error saying unknown partition type 0x83 when i try to boot Ubuntu. Should I resintall as Reiser? or have i got my partitions numbers mixed up? (its /dev/sdb1 i use)
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> and it has a nvidia gfx card
[10:11] <david__> master i do that still i dont have persion
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> So restricted drivers are needed
[10:11] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, its not nessicary, you can use the drivers from nvidia's site, i always do
[10:11] <punkshui> MasterShrek recently I was trying to increase my battery life by unloading a few modules... but I also did some other stuff... It didn't reallly work so I undid it all... but since then, gnome-pm thinks i'm always on ac power
[10:11] <musikgoat> Stevethepirate: 32bit OS's cannot read past iirc 2.75GB of ram
[10:12] <david__> mastershrek i do that still i dont have permasion
[10:12] <MasterShrek> musikgoat, i think its 3.1 gigs with a default ubuntu kernel, you can custom compile one for highmem support though afaik
[10:13] <MasterShrek> david__, sudo gives you permission, you must be doing something wrong
[10:13] <musikgoat> i stand corrected ^_^
[10:13] <newbiee> canany one tell me how to make admin user from command line
[10:13] <ActySofts> sudo -i
[10:13] <newbiee> can any one tell me how to make admin user from command line
[10:13] <ActySofts> newbiee: sudo -i
[10:14] <Zenerek>  MasterShrek: maybe david's files are owned by root
[10:14] <MasterShrek> Zenerek, sudo will let him mess with them though
[10:15] <MyOriginalAlias> Hello everyone, I am trying to get conky to load when I startup, I tried adding it to sessions, but it didn work. Is there a file I can add it to?
[10:15] <flibberdy> blargh, not having a cdrom is full of fail
[10:15] <Zenerek> are you sure i remember sometimes i had to be root itself..
[10:15] <Teknomancer> anyone any ideas? this is how my grub entry looks: http://phpfi.com/284374
[10:16] <punkshui> delete Windows Vista?
[10:16] <newbiee> ActySofts: thanks
[10:16] <KusemeK> Fo' sho'
[10:16] <Zenerek> !beryl
[10:16] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[10:17] <ActySofts> punkshui: format the partition
[10:17] <MyOriginalAlias> Also I did a clean install today and once in a while I get a small ugly pixlated box in the top right corner o my screen for a fe seconds the it disapears, anyone know what thats about?
[10:17] <KusemeK> what's the problem with the new Beryl?
[10:17] <KusemeK> !compiz
[10:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:17] <punkshui> Actysofts: huh?
[10:17] <tijn> i have a weird problem,  fglrx worked just fine, suddenly everything is software rendered, the module fglrx is loaded but just won't work anymore, is this a known problem?
[10:17] <dyce> hey has someone used acetoneiso to emulate a mini image to play a game?
[10:17] <ActySofts> punkshui: <punkshui> delete Windows Vista?
[10:17] <punkshui> Actysofts: I'm having battery recognition problems
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> !ram
[10:17] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[10:17] <punkshui> ohhh
[10:18] <punkshui> that was in response to someone else
[10:18] <Zenerek> !compiz-fusion
[10:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:18] <MyOriginalAlias> So no one knows whats up with this ugly box?
[10:19] <KusemeK> What ugly box?
[10:19] <flibberdy> ok, when i try and modprobe ipw2200 (my wireless nic driver) I get messages in demsg complaining about ieee80211 not being recognised, this is a kernel module, how do i get ubuntu to compile and install the module?
[10:19] <ratpoison> hello! If I install ATI 's new fglrx drivers w/ AIGLX support, will I have problems upgrading from gutsy to hardy? same question applies to KDE 4
[10:20] <MyOriginalAlias> KusemeK: I did a fresh install if 7.10 today and there has been this small pixelated white box appearing randomly in the very top right corner of my screen
[10:21] <ActySofts> If I try to use any piece of software to change the volume or mute/unmute any channels, I can't, because the volume is locked at 100% for everything ad PCM is muted (and locked), thus I have no sound (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48936/); I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) BTW
[10:21] <Teknomancer> when i boot ubuntu from cd and run gparted, it shows /dev/sdb1 as the ubuntu partition, .
[10:22] <KusemeK> MyOriginalAlias: Weird... Tried looking at the running processes?
[10:22] <MyOriginalAlias> KusemeK: Yes, I don see anything out of the norm
[10:22] <narothepharoh> k3b error cd record has no permission to open this device?
[10:23] <narothepharoh> kubuntu 7.10
[10:23] <narothepharoh> xubuntu i mean
[10:25] <KusemeK> MyOriginalAlias: have you tried changing the Theme?
[10:25] <punkshui> MasterShrek which modules did you think I had to load?
[10:26] <Stecchino> does anyone know of a Networkmanager error with the ipw3945 driver for intel wireless cards that appeared in gutsy?
[10:26] <mohamed> hello
[10:28] <MasterShrek> punkshui, id load: ac, battery, button, video, fan, processor, and thermal       then restart X and see if the power management picks it up
[10:28] <mohamed> i just downloaded the new Nvidia driver from Nvidia website .... but  how can i install it in ubuntu ???????? file name NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run PLEASE HELP
[10:28] <d0d0d> hey there , anyone shoot me a clue of which packages contains modules.h (in /usr/include/linux)
[10:28] <Teknomancer> mohamed:  sh <filename.run>
[10:28] <MasterShrek> mohamed, you need to kill X first to run it though
[10:28] <punkshui> MasterShrek can you point me to a tutorial on how to do that?
[10:28] <Teknomancer> ah yeah
[10:28] <mohamed> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[10:28] <mohamed> how to kill it ?
[10:28] <Teknomancer> check if executable bit is set on .run perhaps
[10:28] <MasterShrek> punkshui, sudo modprobe ac, sudo modprobe battery.......ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[10:29] <david__> mastershrek  i dont have the permasion to delated
[10:29] <mohamed> am a beginner
[10:29] <d0d0d> mohamed,  chmod +x Nvidia.... ; ./Nividia...
[10:29] <punkshui> MasterShrek thx
[10:29] <MasterShrek> mohamed, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   (hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal then run that command)
[10:29] <MasterShrek> mohamed, you are better of using the driver that ubuntu has though
[10:30] <MasterShrek> mohamed, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[10:30] <void^> d0d0d: should be part of your kernel headers
[10:30] <MasterShrek> kernel headers are not installed by default
[10:30] <Teknomancer> i set the swap partition type as logical, could that be the problem?
[10:31] <d0d0d> void^, yes it is , but i thought build-essential has it too ,
[10:31] <punkshui> Mastershrek battery still doesn't show up
[10:31] <d0d0d> void^, i dont wanna start doing symlinks
[10:32] <MasterShrek> punkshui, did you restart X?
[10:32] <punkshui> yes
[10:32] <MasterShrek> hmm, i dunno then
[10:32] <m3gach33zy> Hello guys, just wondering if its possible to password protect a folder?
[10:32] <d0d0d> m3gach33zy, openssl
[10:32] <punkshui> MasterShrek alright, thanks anyways
[10:32] <dORSY> anyone who can help me w counter-strike 1.6 and MOTD freeze?
[10:33] <dORSY> gonna be some kind of MSHTML issue
[10:33] <d0d0d> m3gach33zy, http://www.karkomaonline.com/index.php/2005/08/16/encrypting-files-with-openssl/
[10:33] <m3gach33zy> dodod just download openssl from the synaptics?
[10:33] <Chris|> I have 1 VGA output on my computer, i want to get a dual monitor working in a few days, my monitor has a VGA in, and DVI in, how can i get dual monitoring to work? i have the software ready, and i know this is a general hardware question
[10:33] <d0d0d> m3gach33zy, i think u already have it
[10:33] <m3gach33zy> I see thanks dodod
[10:33] <d0d0d> m3gach33zy, wlcm mate
[10:33] <dORSY> ati card ?
[10:33] <Chris|> nvidia
[10:33] <mohamed> back
[10:33] <Chris|> hold on i can get the exact product
[10:33] <CroX> Anyone here use some application similar to Peerguardian/Protowall?
[10:34] <mohamed> who was helping me regarding the Nvidia Driver
[10:34] <MasterShrek> CroX, mobolck
[10:34] <MasterShrek> moblock***
[10:34] <Chris|> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GPU 0)
[10:34] <MasterShrek> mohamed, did it work?
[10:34] <CroX> master_of_master: Is there any other?
[10:35] <mohamed> no i didnt do it right
[10:35] <m3gach33zy> thanks dodod
[10:35] <MasterShrek> CroX, iptables, but its quite a pain afaik
[10:35] <MasterShrek> mohamed, what did you do?
[10:35] <onats> when you do a wget with the -b flag, once you logout of that session, does it also terminate the download?
[10:35] <dev_ahbad> Hi all ... I have install WinXP in my home again...but after formatting that C: I haven't get Ubuntu in the Boot Screen.... So how can I get back Boot Option for Ubuntu
[10:35] <CroX> master_of_master: Alright. Thanks!
[10:35] <mohamed> the last thing he told me was press alt+CTRL + F1
[10:35] <MasterShrek> mohamed, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[10:35] <mohamed> then i didnt know how to go back to my desktop
[10:35] <mohamed> ok
[10:35] <MasterShrek> mohamed, to get back from there: ctrl+alt+f7
[10:36] <MasterShrek> but that package shoudl take care of it, no need to manually install, its for the birds, and power users =P
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> Hey, anyone know of a DC [Direct Connnect] -server- /or hub/ for linux?
[10:36] <mohamed> nvidia-glx-new is already the newest version.
[10:36] <mohamed> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[10:36] <mohamed>   python2.4-minimal python2.4
[10:36] <mohamed> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[10:36] <mohamed> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[10:37] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, i know theres one out there, search synaptic for it
[10:37] <MasterShrek> mohamed, system > administration > restricted drivers
[10:37] <MasterShrek> mohamed, does your nvidia card appear to be installed correctly?
[10:37] <mohamed> stat
[10:37] <mohamed> yes
[10:37] <mohamed> status in use
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> MasterShrek: not on ubuntu ATM...
[10:38] <MasterShrek> mohamed, well good :)
[10:38] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, neither am i...
[10:38] <MasterShrek> !find dcpp
[10:38] <ubotu> Found: linuxdcpp, linuxdcpp0.691
[10:38] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, thats it, linuxdcpp
[10:38] <m3gach33zy> ubotu
[10:38] <MasterShrek> !info linuxdcpp
[10:38] <ubotu> linuxdcpp: Linux port of the famous dc++ client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.1.cvs20070523-1 (gutsy), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3092 kB
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> MasterShrek: thats the client
[10:38] <m3gach33zy> msg ubotu hi
[10:38] <MasterShrek> m3gach33zy, ubotu is a bot, he wont respond to you like a human would
[10:38] <MasterShrek> Stevethepirate, i think so
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> I'm tried almost every client
[10:39] <ActySofts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645489
[10:39] <m3gach33zy> idk how to message it on xchat lol
[10:39] <mohamed> what about the driver i just downloaded from nvidia website (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run) is it the same thing ??
[10:39] <Stevethepirate> ITS a -server- i'm looking for.
[10:39] <Usiu> Hi
[10:39] <Stevethepirate> mohamed: rather get the repo version
[10:39] <MasterShrek> m3gach33zy, put a / before msg, but like i said, ubotu wont respond as a human would, its a bot
[10:39] <Stevethepirate> !ask > Usiu
[10:39] <mohamed> whats the repo ver ??
[10:39] <simion314> hi, in this new Gnomw version my windows have not a title bar:image  http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/simion314/Screenshot-1.png
[10:39] <MasterShrek> no idea then Stevethepirate
[10:39] <m3gach33zy> yeah i know that lol thanks for the help :P totally forgot about the /
[10:39]  * MasterShrek is out, its almost 5am, and he needs sleep
[10:40] <MasterShrek> nite every1
[10:40] <ActySofts> night!
[10:40] <Chris|> does anyone know anything about VGA cables? and dual monitoring?
[10:40] <Scusio> when i start the ubuntu live cd 6.06 and 7.10 it stops booting at the 2nd line: "Mounting boot....(devices?)" plz any1?
[10:40] <Usiu> Where I can download Ubuntu with latest xorg intel driver, because current 7.10 release has buggy commited driver. The fixed one is already in debian.
[10:41] <Usiu> I get black screen with Ubuntu installer
[10:41] <mohamed> am having problems with steam .... counterstrike always freezes while loading at the beggining .... maybe its the nvidia driver thing because before running CS it gives me a warning that i dont have the latest driver
[10:41] <Usiu> or whatever it comes up with
[10:41] <MyOriginalAlias> I am trying to boot my win part and it says unclean shutdown its on sda5 and it wont mount it?
[10:41] <MyOriginalAlias> Is this because its sata?
[10:41] <Usiu> MyOriginalAlias, dont preforme hard reset anymore
[10:42] <CroX> MasterShrek: You know the difference between moblock-ipq and moblock-nfq?
[10:43] <Tom0> hello everyone, is there anyone that can help me with information about accessibility?
[10:43] <MyOriginalAlias> Usiu: You are telling me my linux ditro has read a windows log, knows that I hard reseted my windows the last time I used it, and now I have to boot into windows and let it shut down correctly before I can mount it in ubuntu?
[10:43] <MasterShrek> i dont remeber CroX, youd have to google it or check on their website
[10:43] <Tom0> im looking for infomation about screen magnifiers
[10:43] <flibberdy> anyone know about setting up ipw2200 firmware in 7.10?
[10:43] <mohamed> whats the repo verstion Stevethepirate you there ?
[10:43] <CroX> MasterShrek: Alright. Thanks anyway
[10:43] <Chris|> Tom0 compiz has a plugin that magnifies the screen
[10:44] <Tom0> thats right, i was wondering if i could speak to some1 more deeply about this plug in
[10:44] <Chris|> well its fairly simple Tom0 do you have compiz installed?
[10:44] <Tom0> no i dont
[10:44] <MyOriginalAlias> I find this a little crazy
[10:45] <Chris|> try enabling desktop effects system > administration >
[10:45] <Chris|> if so install the driver and then using synaptic install compiz-settings-manager
[10:45] <flibberdy> does apt-get have the ability to install new/different kernels?
[10:45] <Usiu> MyOriginalAlias, its possible
[10:46] <Chris|> flibberdy i think so
[10:46] <Tom0> i hDoes the zoom plug in have colour enhancements, like invert brightness for example?
[10:46] <Tom0> or does it just zoom in
[10:46] <Chris|> it zooms in
[10:46] <Chris|> using the super button (windows log button) and the scroll bar
[10:47] <Chris|> or super button + 1 button or 2, 3
[10:47] <Tom0> how many times are you able to zoom in?
[10:47] <Chris|> pretty far
[10:47] <mohamed> am having problems with steam .... counterstrike always freezes while loading at the beggining .... maybe its the nvidia driver thing because before running CS it gives me a warning that i dont have the latest driver
[10:47] <dORSY> anyone help me out with wine + counter-strike 1.6 when i connect to a server and MOTD freezes with this fixme:mshtml:HTMLBodyElement_put_scroll (0x8420d98)->(L"no")
[10:47] <Usiu> Where I can get Ubuntu installer with latest xorg intel driver. The one included in gutsy 7.10 is buggy for some intel cards and cause black screen. On Debian I was using old one precompiled for new API. Now its fixed in debian and current git.
[10:47] <Chris|> extremely far if you want
[10:47] <Tom0> ok
[10:48] <Usiu> dORSY, try #winehq
[10:48] <dORSY> oh thx usiu
[10:48] <mohamed> guys what does it mean restricted driver
[10:48] <Tom0> in ubuntu, are the themes universal? For example, if i put a high contrast black theme on, will all the applications have a similar look?
[10:49] <Chris|> holy cow, you can just about see a pixel if not, with that plugin
[10:49] <Chris|> Tom0 some buttons will change and others
[10:49] <Chris|> usually yes
[10:49] <Chris|> the backgrounds of the program usually do
[10:49] <Tom0> yea, i see
[10:49] <Chris|> unless a program is coded to be a certain color
[10:50] <Tom0> yea
[10:50] <MyOriginalAlias> Does anyone know hoto mount an ntfs partition on a sata drive?
[10:50] <Tom0> thats the same as windows
[10:50] <Tom0> iv been stuck with windows and i really want to break free
[10:51] <Chris|> Tom0 are you on windows atm?
[10:51] <ActySofts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645489
[10:51] <Tom0> yea
[10:51] <Chris|> Ubuntu 7.10 has been really easy for me, i've spent most of my time customizing
[10:52] <Tom0> it looks great from what iv seen
[10:52] <Chris|> if you go on the forum and ask a question its gets answered pretty fast
[10:52] <Tom0> what GPU do u have Chris?
[10:52] <Chris|>  GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 graphics card
[10:53] <Stecchino> Hi all, does anyone here know about the iwp3945 issues?
[10:53] <Tom0> is it better to have older or new cards?
[10:53] <Chris|> newer cards
[10:53] <Stecchino> would using iwl3945 solve anything?
[10:53] <Chris|> most nvidia cards support the 3D effects
[10:53] <Zenerek> Tom0: hey just wanted to say ubuntu has this assitive tech stuff which already includes zooming, have not triedmyself though
[10:53] <Tom0> I have a 8600GT, which is around a year old now i think, so that should have drivers
[10:54] <Chris|> i installed Ubuntu, and it noticed i had a nvidia card, and asked if i wanted to install a driver, and installing compiz was fairly easy
[10:54] <Tom0> Zenerk: could u have a good and tell me what u think? im looking for as much infomation as i can get :)
[10:54] <pete1> hello
[10:54] <Tom0> compiz look amazing
[10:55] <Zenerek> what type of info?
[10:55] <MyOriginalAlias> Can anyone please help me get my windows partition mounted, I am having some trouble because it is SATA
[10:55] <Chris|> mounting it in media MyOriginalAlias?
[10:55] <Tom0> Zenerek: besides the zoom fuction in compiz, is there any other type of magnification program on there.
[10:56] <Chris|> /media*
[10:56] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all. any tips how to fix it ?
[10:57] <ActySofts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645489
[10:57] <Zenerek> personally i cannot totally break free of windows, er yeah there is this assistive tech options availabe in one of the menus it incluse an option for magnifier
[10:57] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris|: No /mnt/win
[10:58] <Tom0> what does the magnifier look like Zenerek?
[10:58] <Chris|> you might have to run sudo gedit /etc/fstab MyOriginalAlias
[10:58] <Chris|> and add it in there
[10:58] <Tom0> is it a fullscreen magnifier? or does it just take up part of the screen?
[10:58] <Zenerek> don't know, never tried it....i would have to log off
[10:58] <Tom0> small part*
[10:58] <Tom0> ok
[10:59] <Chris|> i never tried it either but it is there
[10:59] <Tom0> no matter
[10:59] <Chris|> the compiz one just zooms in but i use it alot sometimes
[10:59] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris|: I was going to but if I can even mount it manually how will it mount on its own?
[10:59] <Chris|> if you add it in there MyOriginalAlias it will mount every boot up
[10:59] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all, cant get detected by Xsane image scanner. any tips how to fix it ?
[10:59] <CroX> MasterShrek: One more question.. :P Now that it's installed, do I have to run it and keep it open or can I run a daemon or is it all handled for me?
[11:00] <Tom0> when u zoom in, does the screen follow the cursor? or does the cursor go out of sight when moved?
[11:00] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| I know that, but if I can even mount it mat boot time?ng it anualy how will it do any better mounti
[11:00] <Chris|> move the cursor and the screen moves with it Tom0
[11:00] <Tom0> thanks
[11:01] <mosno> lord, give me the power to stick with a distro for once
[11:01] <Chris|> MyOriginalAlias i dont know that
[11:01] <mosno> :)
[11:01] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| Sorry my keyboard makes my cursor skip backwars
[11:01] <Chris|> its ok
[11:01] <mosno> *actual object of focus may vary
[11:02] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| I cant add it there untill I can mount it manually so I know whatons to use opti
[11:02] <Chris|> if you want access to that drive when you boot up, you add it in fstab then restart and it will be there, thats as much as i can help
[11:02] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| Options to use
[11:03] <Chris|> google it up or register on ubuntuforums
[11:03] <Chris|> i dont know the options
[11:03] <MyOriginalAlias> I have lol
[11:03] <Chris|> lol
[11:04] <MyOriginalAlias> Anyone here know how to mount an NTFS partition on a SATA drive?
[11:05] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/point
[11:05] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: do you wanna elaborate a bit?
[11:06] <jackcy> you should be able to mount it with write access using: sudo ntfsmount /dev/sdxx /mnt/point
[11:07] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: lol I have been lol, I am getting an error even eith the -t ntfs-3g option saying it was not cleanly shut down, giving me direction to go into windows and safely remove hardware, like its a usb drive or something
[11:07] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: you don't really need any special parameters unless you want to override defaults
[11:08] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: Wanna see a pastebin?
[11:09] <CroX> MasterShrek: It is now running but apparently MoBlock stops most of my RSS feeds (web comics, tech news mostly) and some websites. Any idea on how to fix this? Use a better list or manually insert valid IPs?
[11:09] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: not really, you just have to let windows fix and clean partition and you are okay to go
[11:09] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: http://pastebin.com/m5a05b527
[11:10] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: What do you mean fix and clean partition?
[11:10] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: it's probabli exatly what it says it is "Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use."
[11:10] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: boot to windows and shut down properly
[11:10] <simion314> is there a way to edit enviroment variables? at least i need to find the file that adds to my variable something that i must remove, hot can i search in all the files in my home for a string?
[11:11] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: lol that was the first thing I tried
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: grep
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: grep 'whatyouwannafind' -r ~/
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: searches recursively thru _everything_ inside your home
[11:12] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: does -o force give you a mount?
[11:12] <dev_ahbad> Hi all ... I have install WinXP in my home again...but after formatting that C: I haven't get Ubuntu in the Boot Screen.... So how can I get back Boot Option for Ubuntu
[11:12] <Flannel> !grub | dev_ahbad
[11:12] <ubotu> dev_ahbad: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:12] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: no same as ntfs-3g
[11:12] <Flannel> dev_ahbad: first link there
[11:13] <LxRooT> !help
[11:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:14] <ICQnumber> hi ppl, i have on box far away from the internet connection, can i download some where NOSS-cd, with multimedia suff and graphic drivers and so on?
[11:14] <ICQnumber> s/on/one
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:16] <JonathanD> LxRooT: you need to ask one time, not 12.
[11:16] <narothepharoh> i need sound
[11:16] <JonathanD> and not in caps.
 : thanks for reply... And my another query about from WinXP how can I get the space back..which is occupied by Ubuntu?
[11:16] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:17] <Tyczek> checkmail isn't working. I am adding good password but it's asking again
[11:18] <Flannel> dev_ahbad: just remove the ubuntu partition, and expand your NTFS partition back to take up the space
[11:18] <m3gach33zy> hey guys, I just found my audio buttons are working but they dont control the sound... in the top right if i hit mute it mutes but sound still occurs... any help?
[11:18] <skeeel> hello
 : But I don't know how to do that?
[11:18] <dev_ahbad> By CD?
[11:18] <ICQnumber> is there ubuintu on dvd?
[11:19] <cast> ICQnumber: yes.
[11:19] <simion314> TTilus:  after some warnings the computer seams to sleep but the control is not back in the terminal, it seams that grep is still working but the computer seem sleaping
[11:19] <skeeel> i installed nvidia driver for X (with envy) but even if i have the nvidia logo at X start , when i launch nvidia-settings it tells me that i don't use the nvidia driver and my rendering is NO
[11:19] <Myrtti> c24ck32: root?
[11:19] <ikonia> !env > skeeel
[11:19] <Tyczek> !envy
[11:19] <m3gach33zy> anyone help me with some audio and the audio buttons
[11:19] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[11:19] <ikonia> skeeel: envy is not supported and it's effects may damage your system
[11:19] <ICQnumber> where can i download it, cannot find on the site
[11:19] <skeeel> ok thanks
[11:20] <ICQnumber> cast
[11:20] <ikonia> ICQnumber: what are you looking for
[11:20] <ICQnumber> ikonia, NOSS cd's or dvd's
[11:20] <ikonia> NOSS ?
[11:21] <ICQnumber> ikonia, not open source software
[11:21] <robdig> m3gach33zy: try right clicking on the volume control applet, select properties, and see if it is set to control pcm or front...pcm is what you want.
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: this is ubuntu support only. Please discuss ubuntu support issues only.
[11:21] <eeos> I am on skype with a friend who did a terrible thing: changed the ntfs partition where he had all his data to ext2 using gparted.
[11:21] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i have one box without internet connetion far away form me
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: not open source = paid for software, so don't download
[11:21] <Chris|> ICQnumber he means probably what type? server or desktop dvd?
[11:21] <eeos> Is there a way to go back without losig all the data that where in the partitio?
[11:21] <eeos> He thinks he did not format it.
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: your lack of internet does not warrent looking for non-ubuntu related software
[11:22] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i talking about java, fplashplayer, and graphic drivers!
[11:22] <ikonia> ICQnumber: they are all available from either the ubuntu repo's or their vendors support sites.
[11:23] <skeeel> brb testing
[11:23] <Chris|> ICQnumber if you want to download ubuntu which is open source go to www.ubuntu.com and go to the get ubuntu page
[11:23] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i have no inernet connection cannot u read?
[11:23] <Chris|> well
[11:23] <ikonia> ICQnumber: then what do you want me to do about it (you're online here so you currently have internet connection)
[11:23] <Chris|> why do you want java if you know you dont have internet anyway?
[11:24] <m3gach33zy> robdig: i do have pcm selected the buttons are working just fine and i reprogrammed them as well and they display that they are working yet the sound isnt controlled
[11:24] <Chris|> he wants it on another computer ikonia
[11:24] <ikonia> Chris|: then download it from here ?
[11:24] <ikonia> as in his current connection
[11:24] <Chris|> thats what i say
[11:24] <eeos> I am on skype with a friend who did a terrible thing: changed the ntfs partition where he had all his data to ext2 using gparted (Ubuntu 7.10).
[11:25] <eeos> He thinks he did not format it.
[11:25] <Chris|> he said he wanted java and other things, i said then why do you want ubuntu even if you cant even download the other programs on ubuntu
[11:25] <eeos> Is there a way to go back without losig all the data that where in the partitio?
[11:25] <ikonia> eeos: %99 = is't gone
[11:25] <ikonia> eeos: %99 chance it's gone with no way back
[11:25] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i want additional cd's like all other distos have, like opensuse
[11:26] <ikonia> ICQnumber: ubuntu doesn't supply additional CD's - you'll need to make your own cd of external packages if you want them.
[11:26] <ICQnumber> or is there a big dvd with ubuntu to download
[11:26] <TTilus> simion314: it's not sleeping, it's searching
[11:26] <TTilus> simion314: was it env variable you were looking for?
[11:26] <robdig> m3gach33zy: hmm, what audio source are you using?
[11:26] <KenSentMe> ICQnumber, there is a dvd, but i don't think it includes binary drivers, flash and java
[11:26] <eeos> ikonia: I know. I had just installed ubuntu for him, and he was playing with gparted of ALL THINGS!
[11:26] <ikonia> eeos: well, time to move on
[11:26] <m3gach33zy> robdig: HDA Intel (alsa mixer)
[11:27] <TTilus> simion314: first check /etc/environment
[11:27] <eeos> ikonia: do you know if there is a software to rebuild the file system structure without erasing the data?
[11:27] <ikonia> eeos: no - as I said it's %99 gone without recovery
[11:27] <robdig> m3gach33zy: ah, i meant program like gstreamer or such
[11:27] <flibberdy> hi all, I have ubuntu 7.10 recognising my wireless nic, but i can't seem to enable it.
[11:27] <flibberdy> does anyone have any suggestions?
[11:27] <ikonia> flibberdy: does it appear in the network admin gui ?
[11:28] <eeos> flibberdy: what is the wireless card?
[11:28] <ikonia> flibberdy: do you have a switch to "enable" it on the laptop
[11:28] <m3gach33zy> robdig: playing music via exaile
[11:28] <simion314> TTilus: yes i search for a file that it puts some  variables in my system, i removed the entries in  in bashrc or something like this but it had no efect, i restarted computer
[11:28] <TTilus> simion314: then ~/.bashrc  and ~/.profile
[11:28] <flibberdy> lols ikonia, i do.. and it was off for some rason
[11:28] <ikonia> flibberdy: ok, well fixed.
[11:28] <revilodraw> im using compiz with the cude enabled, what do i do or type to make it spin?
[11:28] <revilodraw> ??
[11:28] <TTilus> simion314: you do not need restart, only relogin
[11:28] <simion314> TTilus: thx i ll search there
[11:29] <TTilus> simion314: what's the variable?
[11:29] <ikonia> revilodraw: it's a key combo + mouse listed in the documentation
[11:29] <Juhaz> !ops | atamer privspam
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[11:29] <ikonia> revilodraw: crtl+alt+left_mouse+move the mouse left/right
[11:29] <TTilus> simion314: you could pastebin you env (type env to console and press enter) and point out the not-wanted variables and i'll see if i know something about them
[11:30] <revilodraw> ikonia: where is the documentation?
[11:31] <TTilus> simion314: and of course you can always do export VAR=value on command line and have the current login env changed
[11:31] <eeos> is it normal not to be able to create more than 4 primary partitions on the new SATA 300 hard disks?
[11:32] <ikonia> revilodraw: compiz-fusion.org
[11:32] <ikonia> eeos: yes
[11:32] <ikonia> eeos: thats a dos disk label limit
[11:32] <simion314> TTilus: thx, i found them in .profile too, i will remove them but i must add other corects. thx again
[11:33] <eeos> ikonia: yes, but I have been able to create 5 or more on ULTRAATA 100
[11:33] <eeos> ikonia: is there a way roud it?
[11:33] <victor__> does any one know if xubuntu has any settings concerning bandwidth caps?
[11:33] <ikonia> eeos: a disk disk label will not allow more than 4 primary partitions. End of discussion.
[11:33] <ikonia> victor__: can you expand your question please.
[11:33] <tino_> eeos, make a logical partition
[11:33] <TimS> I have had more than 4 before
[11:33] <ikonia> TimS: no you've not.
[11:33] <tino_> that can contain as many partitions as you like
[11:34] <eeos> tino_: I am no expert. Do you have any documentation you can point me to please?
[11:34] <ikonia> tino_: no - it can contain 10 making a total of 15 partitions limited on the disk
[11:34] <cast> is a good idea to start using LVM if you ask me
[11:34] <victor__> for internet connections and such
[11:34] <ikonia> victor__: what sort of bandwidth capping ?
[11:34] <eeos> I am writig from a 6 partitions laptop at the moment. UATA 100 disk
[11:34] <ikonia> eeos: 6 pimary partitions ?
[11:35] <ikonia> eeos: I think not
[11:35] <Guest16155> hello , i have 10 .tar files , and i would like to extract all the files into 1 folder , without the paths ?
[11:35] <robdig> m3gach33zy: it looks like several posts in the forum say that using the command exaile --no-equalizer will resolve some sound problems, don't know if it will help yours or not...
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest16155: just untar them
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest16155: if they where tar'd up with absouloute paths, you can't undo that
[11:35] <revilodraw> ikonia: thanks
[11:35] <victor__> like in xp it has QoS packet sheduling...i was wondering if xubuntu has something similar
[11:35] <ikonia> ReX0r_: welcome
[11:35] <eeos> ikonia: I will check but that is how it looks like.
[11:36] <tino_> eeos, if you use gparted to create partitions, create an extended partition and create new partitions inside that extended partition.
[11:36] <ikonia> victor__: yes, iptables comes with QoS options.
[11:36] <void^> eeos: pastebin fdisk -l or it didn't happen. ;)
[11:36] <Guest16155> ikonia: i am new to ubuntu can u give me example of untar usage ?
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest16155: just click on the tar files.
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest16155: it will untar for you
[11:36] <david__>  5any one have web server here can help me
[11:36] <ikonia> david__: ask the question.
[11:37] <tzd> i! I was hoping anyone here could help me with my thunderbird installation. I am completely unable to install it via synaptic or konsole (im using kubuntu, gutsy gibbon OS) so i was informed to try the Ubuntuzilla script. I ran this script but it won't receive a public key? It also says something about it couldn't find a writeable keyring? the end message i get during the install is: Process returned code 2. Unable to retrieve Mozilla Software
[11:37] <tzd> Releases Public key from keymaster.veridis.com . Trying again... Failed to retrieve Mozilla Software Releases Public key from any of the listed keyservers. Please check your network connection, and try again later.
[11:37] <victor__> like in xp it has QoS packet sheduling...i was wondering if xubuntu has something similar?
[11:37] <ikonia> victor__: setting it up is not a 2 minute job though
[11:37] <jaggz-> !dualboot
[11:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:37] <jaggz-> !raid
[11:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[11:37] <maddler> anyone experiencing problems with Compiz-Fusion after latest kernel upgrade?
[11:37] <ikonia> victor__: Qos is available through iptables
[11:37] <jaggz-> sigh
[11:37] <inSanity_909> !kvm
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <victor__> well if i can set it up properly than it doesnt matter how long it takes
[11:37] <david__>  ikonia i go to var www i need to remove items from there of the apache but not leve me to delte tham
[11:37] <ikonia> maddler: no
[11:37] <inSanity_909> !virtualization
[11:37] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[11:37] <ikonia> david__: use sudo do remove the files, as they are owned by a user that is not "you"
[11:38] <inSanity_909> !KQemu
[11:38] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu
[11:38] <eeos> tino_ TimS: I am no expert on logical partitions. Do you have any documentation you can point me to please?
[11:38] <ikonia> victor__: totally you can set it up, iptables is the way to do it
[11:38] <victor__> do i run iptables through the terminal or is there a gui i can use?
[11:38] <jaggz-> I have 3 drives.. first 2 are raid and have XP on them, 3rd drive has partition 0 NTFS, and partition 1 (2nd partition) is Linux (ext3) but I am trying to get this to boot :(
[11:38] <david__>  ikonia what i need to right in terminal sudo please
[11:38] <ikonia> victor__: there are gui's but I personally don't rate them you need to look at setting up your own set of "iptables rules"
[11:38] <ikonia> david__: sudo -rm /var/www/files you want to remove
[11:38] <victor__> alright...thanks youve been a big help
[11:39] <jaggz-> before I mess my system up I retained copies of sda, sdb, and sdc (first 5mb of each drive)
[11:39] <ikonia> jaggz-: are you using fakeraid ?
[11:39] <jaggz-> sda and sdb are the hardware mirror, but linux sees them as separate drives
[11:39] <ICQnumber> is hplip on the ubuntu cd?
[11:39] <ikonia> ICQnumber: I think so
[11:39] <jaggz-> at least the ubuntu install CD sees them as separate drives
[11:39] <tino_> eeos, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[11:39] <jaggz-> ikonia, I haven't used anything yet -- after install I've not been able to boot linux yet
[11:39] <jaggz-> I did not choose the "install boot loader" option during install
[11:39] <ikonia> jaggz-: is the "raid" disk you mention for XP "fakeraid"
[11:40] <jaggz-> I don't think so.. it's real raid from the motherboard's hardware raid support
[11:40] <ikonia> jaggz-: if you've not installed the boot loader, how do you expect your system to boot
[11:40] <ikonia> jaggz-: ok - motherboard raid = fake raid
[11:40] <david__>  ikonia david@serverlinuxtwo:~$ sudo -rm /var/www/files apache2-default
[11:40] <david__> sudo: please use single character options
[11:40] <david__> sudo: illegal option `-rm'
[11:40] <david__> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[11:40] <david__> usage: sudo [-HPSb] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid]
[11:40] <david__>             { -e file [...] | -i | -s | <command> }
[11:40] <david__> david@serverlinuxtwo:~$
[11:40] <ikonia> david__: sudo rm -rf
[11:40] <jaggz-> I was scared to install the boot loader onto sda because then it won't be a true mirror of sda/sdb
[11:41] <Myrtti> !paste | david__
[11:41] <ubotu> david__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:41] <ikonia> jaggz-: getting boot loaders to work with fake raid is a very annoying and tricky tasks. "fakeraid" is really annoying as it is a weak technology
[11:41] <jaggz-> careful with rm -rf by the way
[11:41] <jaggz-> make sure you get the proper filenames/directories you want to rm
[11:41] <ikonia> jaggz-: why ? I've given him the exact command to type
[11:42] <david__> ok
[11:42] <david__> still the same the folder is thare
[11:42] <jaggz-> I think my advice is still good :) :)
[11:42] <david__> not delterd
[11:42] <jaggz-> sudo rm -rf /that/folder
[11:42] <kevind23> okay I need help with my mouse, for whatever reason the cursor displays about 300-400 pixels above where the system thinks it's pointing at, and it's very annoying. It's an X problem too because it happens in both gnome & kde, no matter what user
[11:42] <ikonia> david__: what command did you use, exactly
[11:42] <david__> ikonia where this problems to del a file
[11:43] <david__> sudo rm -rf
[11:43] <eeos> tino_: thaaaanks!!!!
[11:43] <jaggz-> kevin, it MIGHT be a display problem.. but I'm just throwing this out there
[11:43] <ikonia> david__: show me the exact FULL command you used
[11:43] <jaggz-> sometimes with the wrong display settings the screen "wraps"
[11:43] <david__> sudo rm -rf /var/www/files apache2-default
[11:43] <kevind23> jaggz-: okay, well how can I fix it? My mouse works fine in any other disto
[11:43] <jaggz-> probably because of the memory addressing being off
[11:43] <kevind23> distro*
[11:43] <Myrtti> I've got a question about rewriting a init-script in such a way it does what it needs to do without rc.status which is used in other distros. How?! I've googled around and I can't find a legible howto or a file that explains what needs to be done.
[11:43] <ikonia> david__: that is NOT what I said to do
[11:44] <jaggz-> but you'd likely see other symptoms of that :)
[11:44] <ikonia> david__: "sudo rm -rf /var/www/name_of_the_file_you_want_to_delete"
[11:44] <david__> can you please ikonia do the comand for me
[11:44] <TTilus> simion314: "them"?  what did you actually remove?
[11:44] <jaggz-> linux is not running under fakeraid by the way.. it's on its own lone drive
[11:44] <TTilus> simion314: just curious
[11:44] <ikonia> jaggz-: that doesn't matter
[11:44] <jaggz-> but I will need to be able to boot into XP, which resides on the raid
[11:44] <ikonia> Myrtti: say that again please.
[11:44] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all, cant get detected by Xsane image scanner. any tips how to fix it ?
[11:44] <ikonia> jaggz-: intergrating with fake raid is a real pain, booting from fake raid is a massive pain
[11:44] <david__> ok workd thanks
[11:45] <jaggz-> actually, I don't mind if linux doesn't recognize the windows drives as raid.. as long as the boot loader can boot XP there AND linux off sdc
[11:45] <tzd> can anyone help me with my thunderbird installation? I tried getting some help from the official mozilla channel but after some ts they told me to come here since they thought my problem was pretty strange.
[11:45] <ikonia> jaggz-: you'll need to tell your motherboard to boot from the none-raid disks, and install  the boot loader on them
[11:45] <jaggz-> the problem is, I think, that anything "before" linux sees the first two drives as 1, so it sees hd0 and hd1 .. but possibly something like grub or lilo may see sda, sdb, and sdc
[11:45] <ikonia> tzd: what happens when you try to install.
[11:46] <Myrtti> ikonia: I've got a software that is started from /etc/init.d. When I do restart, it complains about something missin in /etc/rs.status, which isn't there. From Googling around I've found out that rc.status is used in other distros, not Ubuntu/Debian. I need to know how the function it serves is replaced in the init-script.
[11:46] <kevind23> Someone's got to be able to help me with this mouse..
[11:46] <david__> ikonia why know i cant do folder in www. var
[11:46] <Myrtti> ikonia: rc.status, even
[11:46] <ikonia> Myrtti: no, problem, I've got some test machines in the lab, I'll have a look
[11:46] <ikonia> david__: what ?
[11:46] <jaggz-> ikonia.. I did that .. for 2 years I've been dual-booting by switching the bios setting each time I wanted to pick one or the other.. because once I switched them I .. I don't know.. they actually don't change place -- linux still saw their physical locations
[11:46] <david__> in var www i need to do folder but i cant
[11:47] <david__> why this problems to do folder
[11:47] <jaggz-> well.. I'm going to read up on fakeraid right now.. first time I heard that word
[11:47] <ikonia> jaggz-: linux will see their phyical locations. due to fake raid, as I've said
[11:47] <david__> there is any way to lock as admin
[11:47] <ikonia> david__: because your normal user doesn't have permissions.
[11:47] <tzd> ikonia: when typing sudo apt-get install thunderbird it download and installs but when i try running it by typing thunderbird i get the message that the program "thunderbird" is not installed and that i can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[11:47] <ikonia> david__: the files are owned by the webserver - not your user
[11:48] <jaggz-> ikonia, yup.. I got it.
[11:48] <david__> ikonia can i be admin in web server
[11:48] <ikonia> tzd: please show me the output of "sudo apt-get install thunderbird" in a PASTEBIN
[11:48] <ikonia> david__: using sudo before the commands will give you administrator access to that directory
[11:49] <jaggz-> sudo -i
[11:49] <jaggz-> gives a root shell
[11:49] <tzd> ikonia: ok, i read something about that pastebin... where do i get it or where do i find a manual to how to do it? :)
[11:49] <ikonia> !pastebin | tzd
[11:49] <ubotu> tzd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <simion314> TTilus:curios about my variables? i unisntall mono from a bin instaler and it do not remove the variables
[11:49] <tzd> thx
[11:51] <skeeel> hello again
[11:51] <tzd> ikonia: is there a way to get the output in English? My OS is in Swedish and I don't think that will make it easier for you? Unless you're Swedish ofc ;)
[11:51] <ikonia> tzd: you can change ubuntu's language, but that is overkill
[11:51] <tzd> hehe ok, ill just translate freely
[11:51] <skeeel> i removed all envy stuff , enabled restriced modules with the menu but i still have no direct rendering , any clue ?
[11:51] <ikonia> tzd thank you.
[11:52] <tzd> no thank you :)
[11:52] <qwerty121> hi all! how can i install awn?
[11:52] <kevind23> sudo apt-get install awn, I believe
[11:52] <kevind23> maybe avant-window-navigator
[11:52] <ikonia> is awn actually in the repo's ?
[11:52] <kevind23> yeah
[11:52] <qwerty121> kevind: do i need beryl or compiz?
[11:53] <kevind23> Uh.. compiz I think
[11:53] <_-XPERT-_> Compiz has teken over beryl
[11:53] <kevind23> Not x86_64 I think though, I had to compile mine
[11:53] <_-XPERT-_> taken
[11:53] <kevind23> _-XPERT-_: yeah but only if you're using compiz-fusion.
[11:53] <chris_were> can i have some healp with linux mint. there's no-one of the mint channel
[11:54] <qwerty121> kevind: but my graphics driver doesn't allow me to install beryl or compiz... Anyway out?
[11:54] <_-XPERT-_> kevind23: Is it? i tought they took it all by now
[11:54] <kevind23> chris_were: Linux Mint is based on ubuntu so ask away
[11:54] <ikonia> chris_were: sorry, linux mint is nothing to do with ubuntu so not supportet here
[11:54] <g0th> hi
[11:54] <ikonia> !variant | chris_were
[11:54] <ubotu> chris_were: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[11:54] <g0th> when I press a key for a long time, only one character is printed and not several, how do I get back the old behaviour (ie. that the pressed key is repeated)?
[11:54] <kevind23> qwerty121: Not sure, you could try installing it and see what happens.. I'm not sure if it would workor not though.
[11:54] <dooglus> what does it mean when the screen goes black while booting and the capslock and numlock LEDs flash on any off?
[11:54] <chris_were> i can't update my linux mint. i don't know if it's because the linux website is down, but it couldn't update before that
[11:54] <bla45523> g0th: xset r on
[11:55] <ikonia> chris_were: that's nothing to do with ubuntu - so not supported here
[11:55] <chris_were> ok thanks anyways
[11:55] <kevind23> _-XPERT-_: Well Beryl was taken over by compiz, but it's divided into compiz and compiz-fusion, and of course emerald for the window decorations
[11:55] <qwerty121> Ok. thanks, kevind23
[11:55] <ikonia> chris_were: sorry
[11:56] <g0th> thanks bla
[11:56] <kevind23> I've got to leave now :\ If someone could please help me with this mouse problem.. just send me a memo I'll be back later
[11:56] <g0th> hmm how can I make sure it's always on (also in the next session)?
[11:56] <bla45523> g0th: i don't know what you have changed in your desktop environment, so i cannot tell
[11:57] <chris_were> um i also have a ubuntu question. when i install easyubuntu it doesn't run at all
[11:57] <ikonia> chris_were: easy ubuntu, is like mint, nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:57] <tzd> ikonia:  which syntax should i use in pastebin?
[11:57] <ikonia> tzd: none
[11:57] <skeeel> any clue how can i enable direct rendering for nvidia cards while enabling it with the restricted modules app don't work ?
[11:57] <bla45523> g0th: and i don't use gnome or kde
[11:57] <ikonia> skeeel: we can't support your system while you've used envy
[11:57] <ikonia> skeeel: envy may alter your system without your knowledge
[11:58] <tzd> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49008/
[11:58] <skeeel> ikonia, i removed it
[11:58] <ikonia> skeeel: but the system may have still been altered
[11:58] <skeeel> oh :(
[11:58] <skeeel> ikonia, so i'm good for a reinstall ?
[11:58] <ikonia> skeeel: sorry, but yes, it's the best way for us to support you
[11:58] <david__> ikonia there any one  to make directory
[11:58] <david__> folder
[11:59] <skeeel> ok i will try first and then i'll see for the reinstall , thanks anyway
[12:00] <Myrtti> ikonia: found out the init-script is designed for suse, now I have to make it work with ubuntu
[12:01] <ikonia> tzd: "sudo find / -name thunderbird -print"
[12:02] <ikonia> tzd: lets see where it actually is
[12:02] <TTilus> simion314: ah, okay
[12:02] <ikonia> Myrtti: what software is it ?
[12:03] <freak124> anyone has any experience with LAMPP? (XAMPP for linux)
[12:03] <ikonia> freak124: just ask the question
[12:03] <tt_> can someone links me the paste site for ubuntu ? (i got to paste somethings)
[12:03] <UserID-MA> General question about networking. I have two routers, both are wireless. Well I want to use router A to broadcast the internet connection and I want to use router B as a wireless switch in a way and recieve the internet broadcast from router A is this possible with static routing?
[12:03] <ikonia> !paste | tt
[12:03] <ubotu> tt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:03] <tt_> thx
[12:04] <ikonia> ubotu: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:04] <messageman3> hi guys, i'm new here, could someone give me a pm - i need help installing
[12:04] <Myrtti> ikonia: one of our own, so I'll have to do it myself
[12:04] <flohrian> messageman3: installing what?
[12:04] <ikonia> Myrtti: unlucky, shout if you want a hand / second set of eyes
[12:04] <messageman3> ubuntu itself
[12:04] <flohrian> Ubuntu?
[12:04] <messageman3> yeah
[12:04] <flohrian> ok :)
[12:04] <freak124> well, for some kind of reason, when I go to http://localhost, I automaticaly am redirected to http://localhost/xampp, how can I make sure it opens the page http://localhost/index.php?
[12:04] <flohrian> did you get a cd/dvd already?
[12:04] <UserID-MA> messageman3: are you trying to install a fresh copy or just duel boot?
[12:05] <tarzeau> i have one of these cheap lenovo laptops, and sound output wouldn't work
[12:05] <tarzeau> and the builtin webcam don't work either!
[12:05] <tich> are there any apps for managing large numbers of files?
[12:05] <tarzeau> is lenovo 3000 n200
[12:05] <ikonia> freak124: your default site has been altered by the xampp install
[12:05] <tarzeau> tich: how large? one million+ ?
[12:05] <freak124> ikonia: ok, how do I fix it?
[12:05] <flohrian> freak124: Apache?
[12:05] <freak124> yes
[12:06] <flohrian> freak124: there have to be a config file, isnt it?
[12:06] <tzd> ikonia: that previous command "sudo find / ..." it's suppose to take some time right since it searches through everything?
[12:06] <ikonia> freak124: change the settings on the default-site, xamp is either doing this by making the index.php file redirect for you, or it has put a redirect rule in for you
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: yeah, it will be slow
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: lets find where it is though
[12:06] <tzd> ikonia:  yeah now the magic begins
[12:06] <messageman3> @flohrian, i have sent you a pm
[12:06] <UserID-MA> is it possible for one router to broadcast the internet connection to a second routeR?
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: we'll get there
[12:07] <freak124> flohrian: there is, but I can't find any mistakes in it
[12:07] <flohrian> messageman3: 1. no! 2. why dont ask in the channel?
[12:07] <ikonia> UserID-MA: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - please find a more appropriate place.
[12:07] <tich> tarzeau: no, maybe that was a little misleading... maybe a hundred or two hundred.  they are video files and i want to be able to 1. know what i have and 2. access them quickly-ish)
[12:07] <freak124> ikonia: thx I'll try
[12:07] <tzd> ikonia:  :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49010/
[12:07] <messageman3> ok, fair plays
[12:07] <ikonia> tzd: someone has deleted the thunderbird binary
[12:07] <messageman3> i have downloaded the livecds for 7.10 and 7.04 and the alternative cd for 7.04
[12:07] <ikonia> tzd: it's in your tash bin
[12:08] <UserID-MA> !list networking
[12:08] <ikonia> tzd: just put it back
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <flohrian> freak124: search for the default-site and change it to index.php / index.html
[12:08] <ShadowCall> hey, how do you stop your windows from opening at the top of the screen? so u cant click the windowbar at the top of them
[12:08] <revilodraw> i was playing with compiz and suddenly my delete button doesnt delete
[12:08] <DrAk0> why dpkg-reconfigure locales is not poping the menu just generating all the locales its want
[12:08] <messageman3> flohrian: i have downloaded the livecds for 7.10 and 7.04 and the alternative cd for 7.04
[12:08] <chronosx> is granular security for folder sharing in samba possible? i.e. folder has a settings for list of users who can only access it
[12:09] <ikonia> chronosx: unix file system permissions
[12:09] <messageman3> but whenever i try to install, i get some nvidia error
[12:09] <flohrian> messageman3: with the live cd?
[12:10] <messageman3> yes
[12:10] <flohrian> freak124: the option is "DirectoryListing".
[12:10] <messageman3> file not found etc.
[12:10] <flohrian> set it to index.php index.html
[12:10] <chronosx> ikonia: unix only allows: rwxrwxrwx owner group others
[12:10] <flohrian> messageman3: checked the cd?
[12:10] <messageman3> flohrian: yes, md5's are fine
[12:10] <flohrian> its an option in the main menu before run/install
[12:11] <flohrian> messageman3: than i dont know..
[12:11] <messageman3> flohrian: i can install it with virtual pc fine..
[12:11] <chronosx> only one owner at a time, no differents groups can access the same folder
[12:11] <chronosx> is there a way i can simulate multiple owners/groups in samba shares?
[12:11] <flohrian> try to create a new live cd, maybe.
[12:12] <messageman3> ok, i will have a go
[12:12] <tzd> ikonia:  that someone is definitely me... ops.. I'm learning though :) Which file or folder should i restore?
[12:12] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, i have an AMD Athlon 2500+ with 512mb RAM, I've got a Netgear WG111V2 USB 802.11g dongle but when I use it to get onto my wireless it goes deadly slow and sometimes packets get dropped
[12:12] <Copolycube> hello
[12:12] <kritzstapf> hi, when trying to check something out using svn it hangs on poll(): http://rafb.net/p/7O09NE94.html - is this a known problem?
[12:13] <Copolycube> It seems that last gnome package has been compiled without Xinerama support
[12:13] <Copolycube> is there some reason for that ??
[12:13] <sdndeath> looking for helop do
[12:13] <sdndeath> \
[12:13] <freak124> flohrian: in what file do I have to change that?
[12:14] <flohrian> freak124: dont know. the main config file, i think
[12:15] <sdndeath> does anyone have a ansi terminal
[12:16] <tzd> ikonia: where shall i put the thunderbird binary? (i have two binaries in two different folders) I'm afraid of restoring the wrong binary since I think 1 is for the nightly build of thunderbird (3.0a) which messed up everything in the first place
[12:18] <francis> Hello, Hi I have a rather wierd question . I have a cluster of servers some are mail and some are web servers .  I need to sent mail from the webservers. How do i get then to use my mail servers[ubuntu + postfix] ??
[12:18] <tony214> anyone know about video encoding here?
[12:18] <cast> tony214: sure.
[12:19] <jaggz-> !anyone
[12:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:19] <tony214> ok, i have an m2v file i encoded but if i transfer it to dvd, mpeg2, it will lose even more quality?
[12:19] <cast> m2v is what?
[12:19] <jaggz-> there's an answer to that question posed by !anyone
[12:20] <cast> 'M2V is an MPEG-2 Packetized Elementary Stream. It contains only video related data.' ahh, hmm
[12:20] <tony214> it's encoded with a windows app
[12:21] <tony214> i just don't want to have to re-encode to retain the same quality. my dvd creator is doing something to create the dvd, it's not re-encoding is it?
[12:21] <cast> well, since dvd uses mpeg2 too, i don't see how one would lose quality
[12:22] <cast> can you mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o test.avi *.m2v it?
[12:22] <glitch-> hi
[12:22] <jaggz-> Okay.. I installed grub on sdc and it's set for sda=hd0 sdb=hd1 sdc=hd2 .. linux is on the second partition of sdc (ie:/dev/sdc2) and windows is on the mirrored fakeraid sda1+sdb1
[12:22] <tony214> sorry, using windows app to do it on a vm
[12:23] <jaggz-> I then setup menu.lst to have a windows entry on (hd0,0) and linux on (hd2,1)
[12:23] <cast> tony214: so...how does your question relate to #ubuntu?
[12:24] <rob_w|laptop> whats the name for a command line tool to configure Xorg automaticly ?
[12:24] <tony214> cast: sorry, didn't know of any other channels i could turn to
[12:24] <jaggz-> root=(hd2,1)
[12:24] <jaggz-> install (hd2)
[12:24] <tony214> i'm using mozilla chat and it doesn't list channels
[12:25] <scragar> not even with /list?
[12:26] <jaggz-> I also copied 512 bytes from /dev/sdc to a spare windows partition (/dev/sdc1) into bootsect-sdc.lin for use with Windows booter .. I hope it works
[12:26] <jaggz-> talk to you guys later, if all goes well!
[12:26] <jaggz-> or not
[12:26] <francis> sudo rob_w|laptop:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <tony214> chat zilla really seems to suck
[12:27] <ThomasVL> why? Works fine with me :)
[12:27] <movela> how do i mount a .NRG image?
[12:28] <tony214> i can't get the damn thing to stop listing channels now
[12:28] <etfb> tony214: what don't you like about it?  At least it does wordwrapping, which konversation doesn't.
[12:28] <tony214> the other chat client i was using had a nice neat list of channels on teh server
[12:28] <tt_> tony , you wont be able to do so in xchat or mirc , so whats your point? ;)
[12:28] <ThomasVL> movela: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html
[12:28] <m3gach33zy> can someone help me... one of my letter keys arent working... and i cant type it to tell you lol
[12:29] <etfb> tony214: I had a problem with it auto-joining a channel, so I just deleted the config file and got the defaults back.  It _could_ do with a little more work on its config options...
[12:29] <tony214> tt_:  xchat was what i used before. it had a search feature for when i needed to search for a help channel. such as now when i could use a video help channel
[12:29] <movela> ThomasVL: did it but acetone doesn't run or load
[12:30] <etfb> tony214: why not keep using xchat?  Is it available in the Ubunto repositories?
[12:30] <IanLiu> When I first installed Gutsy, I could access my computer in the network, but now, I can't... anyone experiencing this?
[12:30] <tony214> etfb: thought i'd try something else. i'm new to irc
[12:30] <Copolycube> tony214, what do you use for video chat un Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <ThomasVL> :( no idea than
[12:30] <tt_> why you dont use it now? if you like it
[12:31] <Pici> !channels | tony214
[12:31] <ubotu> tony214: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[12:31] <tony214> tt_: it screwed up on me
[12:31] <etfb> tony214: Always good to try new things.  As Oscar Wilde said, "Try anything at least once, except incest and folk dancing."
[12:31] <ThomasVL> :p lal
[12:31] <IanLiu> When I first installed Gutsy, I could access my Windows computer in the network, but now, I can't... It displays "Can't display all contents in the Folder"...
[12:32] <tt_> whats happend? :)
[12:32] <Xsylotte> hello, how to fix this problem ?
[12:32] <Xsylotte> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2255/ubuntuuo5.jpg
[12:32] <tt_> dont tell me you installed it from add/remove
[12:32] <tony214> etfb: lol, yeah, i'm not one to settle for good enough so i try new things
[12:33] <etfb> IanLiu: I'm getting similar problems -- samba says it can't find the local windows machine, possibly because of firewall settings.  I ought to see what's going on there, but I'm swamped with so many other little things.
[12:33] <tt_> Xsylotte which cam ,did you use for taking that picture? :p
[12:33] <IanLiu> etfb: Hmm, maybe... I will try some tests, thanks
[12:33] <Xsylotte> tt_, hahah :D canon a550
[12:34] <Xsylotte> i've updated gutsy and restarted computer.
[12:34] <tt_> lol , so i guess you complied kernel? ;_
[12:34] <Xsylotte> after that i got that error
[12:34] <Xsylotte> tt_, i runned update manager
[12:34] <tt_> i did it too , i got the new kernel image
[12:34] <tt_> but thats never happend too me with updating , only when compiling
[12:35] <Xsylotte> hmm, what to do now ?
[12:35] <Xsylotte> :D
[12:35] <excalibas> hello, can someone help me to configura wifi radar for wpa please?
[12:36] <etfb> Xsylotte: did you reboot with the noapic or apic=debug options, as it suggested?  Or just tried the recovery mode boot?
[12:36] <tt_> i would suggest booting from livecd and edite your grub.conf to fits your new kernel (or old one or whats ever)
[12:36] <wij32> hey, im going to install ubnutu over debian and windows, anyone done this over dell media direct aswell?
[12:36] <Xsylotte> etfb, atm i am running ubuntu with noapic
[12:36] <etfb> Xsylotte: and it booted ok?  (it's late where I am; forgive me if I ask braindead questions)
[12:36] <Xsylotte> etfb, yes,'
[12:38] <etfb> Xsylotte: recompiling kernels is well outside my area of expertise, but presumably there's some kind of option to do with the 8254 timer chip and APIC that you can set when you ./configure or make or whatever...
[12:38] <Xsylotte> is there any way to get last kernel update again ?
[12:38] <Xsylotte> or something
[12:38] <Xsylotte> because last update in update manager was samba and kernel..
[12:39] <etfb> Xsylotte: you didn't save a copy of the old kernel before you rebuilt?
[12:39] <tt_> Xsy , i was going to help you to give you my owner kernel *which i downloaded it from update too*
[12:39] <Xsylotte> etfb, I am linux newbie, I used Update manager.
[12:39] <tt_> but ther problem is with my isp
[12:39] <Xsylotte> so answer is no ?
[12:40] <etfb> Xsylotte: that's good news - it means the old kernel is still sitting there, I expect.  Sorry - didn't you say you recompiled your kernel yourself?  Did I misread?
[12:40] <ActySofts> hello again
[12:40] <tt_> etfb no he didnt ;)
[12:40] <tt_> i said he did
[12:40] <scragar> etfb: someone asked if he had, he said no, update manager.
[12:40] <Xsylotte> etfb, you misread.
[12:41] <ActySofts> I reinstalled ubuntu, kept my /home partition intact, but ALSA is still mad, so, how do I 'reset' my /home?
[12:41] <etfb> tt_: Ah - "See what you miss if you don't stay alert?" - Z Beebelbrox.
[12:41] <Xsylotte> etfb,  :D
[12:41] <tt_> etfb , i am not missing much , i allready suffering from mono , playing around then come and see whats going here ;)
[12:42] <etfb> Xsylotte: presumably I got the new kernel too, so I'll have a look and see if I can find where it puts the old one.
[12:42] <etfb> tt_: which mono - the glandular disease or the .NET clone?  And which would be more painful?
[12:43] <Xsylotte> thx etfb
[12:43] <ActySofts> how do I "reset" my /home partition?
[12:43] <tt_> compiling it from source code , without good internet , so you cant get the things it want , thats pain , and even when you get it , its wont accept it ;)
[12:43] <etfb> Xsylotte, tt_: any idea what the newest version number is?
[12:43] <Xsylotte> i would have to restart :D
[12:44] <tt_> for mono its 1.2.6
[12:44] <etfb> tt_: sorry, I meant kernel version
[12:44] <tt_> 2.6.22-14 if i am not wrong ;) *opening the folder and reading it*
[12:45] <muslimsoft> is there are method to read visio file in Linux?
[12:45] <etfb> That's the only one I seem to have too, tt_.  I wonder where it dumps the old one when it upgrades.
[12:45] <tt_> i will see if i could find it for him
[12:46]  * scragar confirms that new kernel is 2.6.22-14
[12:46] <etfb> I can't find any files with 2.6.22-13 or earlier (I'm guessing the previous one would be -12, since they go up by even numbers for releases and odd numbers for development versions)
[12:47] <etfb> So it looks like update trashes the old one, if I did indeed update when I thought I did.
[12:47] <etfb> I wonder if update manager has a log file... <rummage rummage>
[12:47] <Xsylotte> :D
[12:47] <scragar> etftb gimme instructions on how to find it on my comp, I'll check
[12:47] <Pici> etfb: The latest kernel update did not change the ABI (dont ask, I dont know what it means either), so it replaces the old kernel instead of adding the newest one.
[12:48] <Centipeed> I was wondering if anyone know how I could remove a running program from the taskbar, but still have it on the desktop, and also make sure that it can never be called into focus? Stays on bottom?
[12:48] <Pici> Centipeed: look into the program devilspie
[12:48] <Pici> !devilspie | Centipeed
[12:48] <ubotu> Centipeed: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[12:48] <Koff> Hi, just wondering, is there a easy way to install new graphics driver?
[12:48] <Stevethepirate> or the program could have a daemonize flag
[12:48] <Pici> Centipeed: Warning, it wont work with compiz, join #compiz-fusion for help doing that if you use it.
[12:48] <Xsylotte> tt_, etfb, is there a way to add noapta in boot ?
[12:49] <Centipeed> ubotu: Thanks, man
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks, man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Centipeed> Pici: No, I don't, so it's cool
[12:49] <Xsylotte> atm every time i boot my computer i need to edit grub loader and add noapta....
[12:49] <etfb> scragar: I used to use find (sudo find / -name [wildcard-mask]) but I recently discovered locate (locate [partial-name]) and it's gorgeous!
[12:49] <Centipeed> Oh. He's a bot :D
[12:49] <tt_> press esc when you boot
[12:49] <tt_> then selet kernel after then press e (to edite it )
[12:49] <etfb> Xsylotte: probably by editing your boot menu.  Hang on while I get the details
[12:49] <linux4me> hi guys, running ubunty 7.10 desktop, a few days ago it complained about some applet or something not working properly and asked if I wanted to remove it, I chose yes. Ever since the system has been ultra slow. How do I troublehshoot this?
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> linux4me: can you recall what the app was?
[12:51] <etfb> linux4me: another situation where having logs of the update manager would be good... I can't seem to find them...
[12:51] <Koff> Could someone help me, or point me in the direction of a tutorial or something, on how to install new graphic drivers?
[12:51] <etfb> \me searches for logs that may not exist...
[12:51] <scragar> all references to -12 removed, even though I'm still running it... fun
[12:52] <linux4me> steven_Office - unfortunately no. I tried updating the system with update manager but that didn't help!
[12:52] <tho1> Xsylotte add the option to the line in /boot/grub/menu.lst that begins with 'kermel /boot/vmlinuz...'
[12:52] <Copolycube> It seems that last gnome package has been compiled without Xinerama support, is there some reason for that ??
[12:52] <etfb> tho1: You beat me to it.  That's what I was going to say...
[12:53] <tho1> Xsylotte if you want that option to be added to every kernel update, then find the same line with a '#' at the beginning...further UP in the file
[12:53] <ActySofts> If I empty my /home, will it get reconstructed?
[12:53] <etfb> tho1: probably overkill, since it sounds like a one-off bug
[12:53] <Xsylotte> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f85aab9f-f1c0-4041-90dc-aaa472bddc8d ro quiet splash
[12:54] <Pici> Copolycube: I dont know much about xinerama, but I'm quite sure that it doesnt have anything to do with Gnome.
[12:54] <tho1> Xsylotte that's the line...should start with the word 'kernel' and you can just add the option to the end of the line
[12:55] <linux4me> i'm looking to burn an iso image, what software do you guys recommend?
[12:55] <ActySofts> right-click & burn
[12:55] <B-rabbit> K3b
[12:55] <ActySofts> or use k3b or brasero
[12:55] <Pici> !burning | linux4me
[12:55] <ubotu> linux4me: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:55] <kiliko> Hi I'm trying to create a meta package, but when I'm trying to install it, illget this error: "Package autofs is not installed" - I'm using dpkg -i ./pkg.deb
[12:56] <rafaelsoaresbr> I got! I love this channel!
[12:56] <Pici> kiliko: install autofs then?
[12:56] <Scusio> when i start the ubuntu live cd 6.06 and 7.10 it stops booting at the 2nd line: "Mounting boot....(devices?)" anyone?
[12:57] <simimi> I was wondering, if I installed the x86 edition, yet have a 64 bit processor (dual core), the system is not making full use of the resources available, correct? I know I could change my kernel, but would changing my kernel to reflect this remove my ability to run 32 bit software?
[12:57] <simimi> Scusio, run the CD check from the main boot menu?
[12:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> !codec | rafaelsoaresbr
[12:57] <PriceChild> simimi, you would need to reinstall with a full ubuntu 64bit system
[12:58] <PriceChild> simimi, you are not losing much in your current state, and it probably isn't worth the bother
[12:58] <ActySofts> !restricted > rafaelsoaresbr
[12:58] <simimi> PriceChild, so there is no way to take advantage of anything without reinstalling... ohh ok then, no worries
[12:58] <kiliko> Pici, it sould just pick it and install it out of the box.
[12:58] <simimi> If I believe I found a critical bug in one of SCIM or gnome-language-support, to whom do I report it?
[12:58] <Pici> kiliko: dpkg doesn't automatically pull in package dependencies.
[12:58] <Pici> !bugs | simimi
[12:58] <ubotu> simimi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:59] <Xsylotte> tt_, etfb: one more question :D, i don't want to mess up something. Can i change order of system in grub boot loader (to make windows default boot ?)
[12:59] <simimi> Xsylotte, yes just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <tt_> yes you can
[12:59] <Xsylotte> change order ?
[12:59] <tt_> or set def
[13:00] <simimi> Xsylotte, I am not sure bit it seems like you change the "chainload+" setting, but that is just a hazy guess from memory
[13:00] <tho1> Xsylotte change the line near the beginning...should say 'default 0'...change it to whatever entry you want. If Windows is the third item in your boot menu, then change it to 2...notice it starts counting at 0
[13:00] <scragar> anyone know what's wrong with this nice command: "nice +13 ktorrent" ? for some reason ktorrent is starting with a nice of 10 instead of 13...
[13:00] <Xsylotte> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[13:00] <Xsylotte> # on /dev/sda1
[13:00] <Xsylotte> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[13:00] <Xsylotte> root		(hd0,0)
[13:00] <Xsylotte> savedefault
[13:00] <Xsylotte> makeactive
[13:00] <Xsylotte> chainloader	+1
[13:01] <cleaton> !paste
[13:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:01] <tho1> Xsylotte don't change that....just change the default value
[13:01] <Xsylotte> i am blind :D
[13:01] <Xsylotte> sry
[13:02] <cleaton> Xsylotte, did you find it?
[13:02] <Xsylotte> yes
[13:02] <cleaton> ok =)
[13:02] <troythetechguy> I was told to run vmstat for diagnostics, but I don't see vmstat in the Ubuntu 7.10 repository.  Anyone know where I can find it?
[13:03] <void^> troythetechguy: should be installed by default, part of procps.
[13:03] <cleaton> Xsylotte, there is also a program called startup-manager
[13:03] <cleaton> a gui for changing startup settings
[13:03] <etfb> troythetechguy: sudo apt-find search vmstat
[13:04] <etfb> troythetechguy: apt-file, sorry
[13:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu startup manager
[13:04] <Xsylotte> ?:D
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startup manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu startup-manager
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startup-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <Xsylotte> blah :D
[13:04] <cleaton> Xsylotte, w8
[13:04] <troythetechguy> void^, Thanks.  All I had to do was enter the command.  I assume the "1" I was recommend to enter as an argument, is the # of seconds in which it updates?
[13:04] <tho1> Xsylotte it might be boot-up manager (BUM)
[13:04] <void^> troythetechguy: correct
[13:04] <cleaton> Xsylotte, http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/screenshots.html
[13:05] <cleaton> !startupmanager
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startupmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:05] <cleaton> the package name is startupmanager
[13:05] <cleaton> it should be in the gusty repo
[13:05] <Xsylotte> tho1, if i change default, then i should comment "savedefault" ?
[13:06] <moofoo> hello, i've configured a luks with cryptosetup, but /etc/init.d/cryptdisks does not ask for a password on startup (i tried the patch from 62751 though I'm running gutsy but this still don't help) any idea why this does not work?
[13:06] <tho1> Xsylotte not necessary. If you change the line to read 'default saved' then every time you boot it will boot the same thing as last time. But if you are using a specific default (0,1,2,etc) then savedefault is ignored
[13:07] <Xsylotte> tho1, i've put default as 3
[13:07] <Xsylotte> because i have 3 ubuntu start up lines, and then windows
[13:07] <Xsylotte> ubuntu, ubuntu safe mode, ubuntu memory test, windows ?
[13:07] <tho1> Xsylotte that means windows is the fourth entry on the boot menu, right?
[13:07] <Xsylotte> 0,1,2, 3 ?
[13:07] <tho1> Xsylotte right...that would be 3.
[13:07] <moofoo> one remark: the drive is attached via usb... and manually starting cryptdisks from console later on works fine
[13:07] <Xsylotte> brb. restart :D
[13:08] <Xsylotte> or bbl...g2g colledge
[13:08] <Koff> excuse me, but how do i change my account to 'super user'?
[13:08] <tho1> Xsylotte you will still get the menu with the delay...the only thing different is that windows will be highlighted instead of ubuntu
[13:08] <Xsylotte> tho1, i wanted that, beucase my mum is using this computer too
[13:08] <Xsylotte> :D
[13:08] <cleaton> =)
[13:09] <tho1> Xsylotte yeah...that should do it. If she does nothing she should end up in windows
[13:09] <Xsylotte> ;)
[13:09] <Xsylotte> i've added noapic into ubuntu..
[13:09] <Xsylotte> it should fix the problem for now
[13:09] <Xsylotte> bbl now
[13:09] <Xsylotte> thx
[13:09] <Stevethepirate> *noacpi?
[13:11] <simimi> Is there a way to get a formated no splash boot up like say, Knoppix/Slackware etc has? I know you can do nosplash on the boot line but the font doesn't fit screen and it is very ugly. Is there a way to get a coloured one, by chance? or a nicer looking one at that?
[13:11] <kazol> What is a good HTML designer (besides quanta and amaya)?
[13:12] <turbocueca> vim
[13:12] <bobbob1016> I have a new ext3 formatted drive, and it says 23.5 gig is used already, and there is no data on it.
[13:12] <tho1> kazol kompozer
[13:12] <cleaton> simimi,  http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/screenshots.html
[13:12] <bobbob1016> Is this normal?
[13:12] <kazol> thx
[13:12] <Pici> !kompozer | kazol
[13:12] <ubotu> kazol: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[13:12] <bezibaerchen> kazol: vi(m) :-)
[13:12] <Pici> bobbob1016: Whats the total size of the drive/parition?
[13:12] <al-_-Gir> someone know cahnnel for AMX X counter strike mod ?
[13:13] <kazol> bezibaerchen: lol I still don't get the point of converting from GUI to command line.
[13:13] <turbocueca> kazol, there isn't anything better than coding the html page
[13:13] <simimi> cleaton, wow amazing! Thanks so much!
[13:13] <tho1> kazol it's something like squatting over the campfire....it feels SO good when you stop
[13:14] <cleaton> simimi, it's in the ubuntu repo, package name startupmanager
[13:14] <kazol> bezibaerchen: Do all Linux users want full performance so much that they convert every app to command-line (like IRC, torrents, etc.)?
[13:14] <turbocueca> no, but we get sure that things do work
[13:15] <wij32> and faster..
[13:15] <bobbob1016> Pici, The drive is a 500gig, and I know some is lost, the drive shows up as 458.4, but it is 23.5 gig used on top of that, down to 435 or something
[13:15] <devasura__> Is there any way to extract partially   zip file?
[13:15] <devasura__> Is there any way to extract a partial zip file?
[13:16] <kazol> devasura__: just drag the folders from the archiving app
[13:16] <Pici> bobbob1016: Hmm.. It would have to be awfully large to have that much reserved too.
[13:16] <Pici> bobbob1016: does `du -h` report anything weird for that drive?
[13:17] <lordmorgoth> hey guys
[13:18] <bobbob1016> Pici, I did sudo du -h, since it said permission to some things denied, and it just has lost and found, 34k total.
[13:18] <ronnie> bobbob1016: if your HD is bought with 500GB and it is show with 4XXGB i think that is normal@@
[13:18] <devasura__> kazol, its giving this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49019/
[13:18] <lordmorgoth> i just bough this new PC with intel quad core processor and intel mb DP35DP, can't install ubuntu, the kernel panics and crashes, any ideas ??
[13:18] <bobbob1016> Pici, It's ext3, could that be something?
[13:19] <rubydiamond> How to use grep to search in *.rb files recursively under current directroy
[13:19] <bobbob1016> ronnie, It is showing as 435, 458.4 with 23.5 used, we're not sure why 23.5 is used.
[13:19] <knoppix_> hello
[13:20] <kazol> devasura__: Does it have ".part001" or something similar? (popular with warez downloads)
[13:20] <tzd> i need help with restoring a deleted thunderbird folder to it's original place please?
[13:20] <devasura__> kazol, no its a single file
[13:20] <kazol> Not sure then, sorry.
[13:21] <devasura__> kazoll, thanks anyway
[13:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> my shipit has never come
[13:22] <zakia> hello
[13:22] <al-_-Gir> LOL
[13:22] <zakia> can i revert a ubuntu to main stream debian ?
[13:22] <kazol> rafaelsoaresbr: Just download the ISO then.
[13:22] <tho1> devasura__ that looks like an incomplete download. I know of no way to extract anything from an incomplete archive
[13:23] <kazol> I was thinking of that...
[13:23] <devasura__> kazol, partial rar files can be exracted by using "unrar -kb e  file.rar". kb imples keep broken. Couldnt find the same option for unzip!!
[13:23] <rafaelsoaresbr> karol, I think I have to do that
[13:23] <zakia> i have a machine zehere ubuntu 5,10 can install i want to in place convert it to debian etch is it possible
[13:23] <tho1> devasura__ as the error indicates the file directory is stored at the end of a zip file, so there is no way for the unzip to know about the files if the end is missing
[13:25] <devasura__> tho1: shoulnt it be stored in the beginning??
[13:25] <kaleh> is it possible to run windows apps the way wine does using Virtualization? that is, i get to run only the app. and don't see the windows desktop
[13:25] <tho1> devasura__ only if it wanted to be rar
[13:25] <tzd> where shall i restore my deleted thunderbird bin file to ( it is now located in /root/.local/share/Trash/files/thunderbird_1/thunderbird) ?
[13:25] <tho1> devasura__ not my fault...I didn't design it...I just use it <smile>
[13:25] <devasura__> tho1: thanks
[13:26] <kaleh> tzd: just copy/paste it to which ever folder u want to
[13:28] <tzd> kaleh: i have it installed somewhere i think? when i try running thunderbird via cmd "thunderbird" it asks me to install it again. I've done this as well and still get the same error. Iconia told me to restore the thunderbird bin file from thrash and then it should work again
[13:29] <Slart> rubydiamond: I think it's grep -R pattern *.rb ..try that.. if it doesn't work I'll try to come up with something else
[13:29] <simimi> cleaton, I do not have startupmanager in my repo,apparently?
[13:29] <tzd> kaleh: i'm also not sure which bin file i need to restore... i have 5 different thunderbird folders in my thrash and i think at least 1 of them are reffering to thunderbird 3.0a (the nightly build) which i really don't want again
[13:29] <boris> when i do 'sudo shutdown now' i get something like 'local process terminated'
[13:29] <cleaton> simimi, you don't? hm maybe it's not suported in there then :(
[13:30] <simimi> I do not have backports, is it in there?
[13:30] <kaleh> tzd: maybe it's installed and just asking the initial setup like name, email-id, etc.?
[13:31] <kaleh> tzd: what does it say when u type thuderbird?
[13:31] <kaleh> tzd: try running mozilla-thunderbird
[13:32] <kaleh> tzd: ie, type "mozilla-thunderbird" in the terminal
[13:32] <cleaton> simimi, it should be in the repo. http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/utils/startupmanager
[13:32] <tzd> kaleh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49008/
[13:32] <tzd> i translated freely
[13:33] <cleaton> simimi, it's in universe
[13:33] <simimi> cleaton, odd...
[13:34] <rubydiamond> Slart, that does not work
[13:34] <simimi> cleaton, got it, many thanks
[13:34] <rubydiamond> there must be some directory.. instead of *.rb
[13:34] <Slart> rubydiamond: oh? what did you get? an error message?
[13:34] <cleaton> simimi, did you download it from the ubuntu package page?
[13:35] <rubydiamond> Slart, grep: *.rb: No such file or directory
[13:35] <simimi> cleaton, nope it was indeed in my repo eventhough an apt-cache search does not return it
[13:35] <cleaton> ok :P maybe you need an update :P
[13:35] <tzd> kaleh: when ikonia saw that he/she told me to run another cmd. The output of that was: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49010/
[13:35] <rubydiamond> Slart, I did not put . after *.rb
[13:35] <rubydiamond> seems that it worked
[13:36] <Slart> rubydiamond: oh.. the single dot made it work?.. that's more odd than it not working..
[13:37] <rubydiamond>  grep -R url_for *.rake clear. searches in .rb files too
[13:37] <rubydiamond> that is weird
[13:37] <ataLay> Hello
[13:37] <pidix> how can i show the daemons that are running?
[13:38] <Slart> rubydiamond: what is you current directory? if you cd to the base dir this should work "grep -R yourpattern ./" should work
[13:38] <lesshaste__> how do I get the latest azureus and sun java?
[13:39] <ataLay> Hello how are you Slart
[13:39] <ataLay> Hello lesshaste
[13:39] <Slart> hello ataLay
[13:39] <lesshaste__> the version that comes with gibbon seems to be old and rely on gcj
[13:39] <ataLay> How are you my friend
[13:39] <tho1> pidix 'ps ax' will show all processes running including the daemons
[13:39] <rubydiamond> Slart, I only want to search in ruby files.. or some files with specified extension like .rake
[13:40] <Slart> eh.. I'm fine.. you? do I know you?
[13:40] <pidix> and only daemons?
[13:40] <kaleh> tzd: this perplexes me
[13:40] <ataLay> Slart no it s first time i been to here
[13:40] <nagyv> hello! could someone give me an mcoder command to convert an avi file to digital video (dv) format? I would like to edit it in Kino, but can't import the avi.
[13:41] <tzd> kaleh: ok, but is there like a default program directory? Such as in windows you have the typical c:\program files
[13:41] <kaleh> tzd: the 1st time u did sudo apt-get, it d/loaded the packages properly and installed them?
[13:41] <lesshaste__> no one else have problems with azureus on gibbon?
[13:41] <tzd> kaleh:  yes
[13:41] <ataLay> Slart Are you there mate
[13:41] <Slart> rubydiamond: I don't know if grep can search in many different files.. specified by some kind of filename pattern..
[13:41] <kaleh> tzd: all installed binaries are always in /usr/local
[13:42] <Slart> ataLay: yes, did you have a ubuntu question?
[13:42] <ataLay> what is ubuntu Slart?
[13:42] <ataLay> Sorry it s my frist time on this server
[13:42] <tzd> kaleh: ah perhaps i should just leave it there... will have a look now
[13:42] <kaleh> tzd:  oops! sry. /usr/lib
[13:42] <Pici> !ubuntu | ataLay
[13:42] <ubotu> ataLay: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <kaleh> tzd:  oops! sry. /usr/lib
[13:42] <Slart> ataLay: I'll take that as a "no" then
[13:42] <tzd> kaleh:  ok :D
[13:42] <snkmad> need help, after last night kernel update, grub cant find my linux partition
[13:42] <lesshaste__> anyone? :)
[13:43] <kaleh> tzd:  u can see that:    /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
[13:43] <ataLay> Sorry where am i
[13:43] <ataLay> Where is here?
[13:43] <ataLay> Whats mean ubuntu?
[13:43] <ataLay> Can you help me pls
[13:43] <nagyv> !ubuntu | ataLay
[13:43] <ubotu> ataLay: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:43] <tzd> kaleh:  hmmm.... actually had a bin file there
[13:43] <ataLay> Can i chat here?
[13:44] <kaleh> tzd:  try double-clicking on  /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
[13:44] <tho1> ataLay no
[13:44] <ataLay> Where i can chat?
[13:44] <snkmad> need help, after last night kernel update, grub cant find my linux partition
[13:44] <tho1> a troll bot?
[13:44] <tzd> kaleh: when i try double clicking the thuderbird-bin file in the /usr/lib/thunderbird/ folder nothing happens
[13:44] <ataLay> tho1
[13:45] <ataLay> Where i can chat?
[13:45] <dadehoog> ataLay: /part /quit /exit
[13:45] <lesshaste__> how can I get azureus 2.5.0.4 for gutsy gibbon??
[13:45] <Pici> ataLay: #ubuntu-offtopic, ##defocus
[13:45] <gonza212> hello, sorry but i was searching for a tool to decode a .hqx (hexbin 4.0) file... any help?
[13:45] <Pici> dadehoog: Thats not helpful
[13:46] <dadehoog> Pici: it appears to be a bot - rather than a person ...
[13:46] <void^> !info azureus gutsy-backports
[13:46] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.4-1ubuntu3~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 7061 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[13:46] <tzd> kaleh: w8... clicked toe shell file named just "thunderbird" as you said
[13:46] <tzd> kaleh: the*
[13:46] <ataLay> ok i part
[13:46] <ataLay> bye
[13:46] <ataLay> good peoples
[13:47] <Pici> dadehoog: No, probably someone for which english is not their first langage.
[13:47] <tzd> kaleh: it loads up and it's version 2.0.0.6
[13:47] <dadehoog> Pici: it's not mine, but I don't carry on like that ...
[13:47] <snkmad> need help, after yesterday kernel update, my ubuntu 7.10 doesnt boot, grub cant find the partition
[13:48] <perfector> its a beautiful day..
[13:48]  * Hiseran watches
[13:48] <Pici> dadehoog: you did mean atalay, right?
[13:48] <perfector> snkmad: is this ur first kernel update?
[13:48] <dadehoog> Pici: indeed
[13:48] <tzd> kaleh: it wont start up via kmenu though
[13:48] <vol_> Hello, I've just installed java 6 via apt-get, however, my links still point at 5. I know that there's a simple command to change these over, does anyone know what it is?
[13:48] <Slart> rubydiamond: "for a in $(ls -R | egrep .*\.\(rb\|rake\)); do grep pattern $a; done"  here's another one.. see if it works
[13:49] <snkmad> perfector idk, i just used the update manager as always
[13:49] <RatThing> snkmad, is the hard drive problematic, have you had trouble with it before the upgrade?
[13:49] <snkmad> then it asked me to reboot
[13:49] <Myrtti> ikonia: still there?
[13:49] <snkmad> the HHD is fine, im using winxp on the other partition on the same drive
[13:49] <rubydiamond> Slart, found one   =>  find . -name "*.rb" -exec grep 'search_string' {} \; -print
[13:49] <Slart> rubydiamond: ah.. I always forget about find.. nice one
[13:50] <Slart> rubydiamond: but that one only searches rb files..
[13:50] <tich> how would i go about translating a program
[13:50] <Slart> tich: translating from what to what?
[13:50] <tich> slart: french to english
[13:50] <RatThing> snkmad I take it then you are unable to go into safe mode when grub boots up, recovery mode that is.
[13:50] <rubydiamond> Slart, yes
[13:51] <Slart> tich: oh.. depends on the program.. some applications have text files with all text strings in them.. some have stuff hardcoded
[13:51] <snkmad> RatThing yeah cant go into safe mode either
[13:51] <snkmad> ill try to boot into my livecd later
[13:51] <snkmad> just wanna know what should i do, and if my partition is lost?
[13:52] <RatThing> snkmad do you actually see a Grub message?
[13:52] <snkmad> yeah
[13:52] <snkmad> grub appears, with all normal boot options
[13:52] <tich> slart: how do i tell the difference?
[13:52] <snkmad> and if i choose any of the ubuntu ones
[13:52] <vol_> Anyone?
[13:52] <RatThing> snkmad, did you install xp after you upgraded?
[13:52] <snkmad> itll tell something like partition not found, cant remember the exact message
[13:52] <Hiseran> tell us the program tich
[13:52] <Centipeed> Can anyone tell me how to stop Pidgin from opening at startup?
[13:53] <Hiseran> you should probably ask the developers if you arent sure tich
[13:53] <tzd> kaleh: got the K-menu to work again... just had to direct the link to the file you told me to double click. I then had to change the working folder to my profile folder which where in a different place. Thank you so much for your help!
[13:53] <tho1> Centipeed it is an option in pidgin
[13:53] <Centipeed> I tried to find it
[13:53] <tich> Hiseran: VideoManager
[13:53] <snkmad> RatThing no, i had winxp, then installed 7.10 just when it was out, then never booted xp again, was full time linux
[13:53] <Centipeed> But I'm probably being stupid
[13:53] <rcomalta___> any one have ubutu as server here
[13:53] <snkmad> its really weird using winxp again...
[13:54] <Hiseran> tich I would look at the source code or ask the developers and save time
[13:54] <jdecoste> hi there
[13:54] <tho1> Centipeed i think it is a plugin...trying to locate it now
[13:54] <RatThing> snkmad there are some windows tools that will let you see the linux partition, but booting from something like xnopix might be useful. I can't see how an upgrade would kill a partition so I am sure it is still there.
[13:55] <snkmad> RatThing well i have my ubuntu livecd here
[13:55] <snkmad> i hope nothing is destroyed
[13:55] <RatThing> snkmad It would be useful to examine your grub.conf
[13:55] <tich> hiseran: it has an xml2translate.py file which i thought i could just translate but when changed it i received errors.
[13:56] <snkmad> its so strange, i just updated as usual, turned off the pc, and today this...
[13:56] <tich> i guess i will ask the developers... but i was hoping to do it tonight.
[13:56] <tho1> Centipeed can't seem to locate it. I know it can be done...it doesn't start automatically for me...but I don't recall how I turned it off.
[13:56] <Hiseran> did you check the xml files?
[13:56] <Gotenks> anyone here know much about IEs4linux?
[13:57] <tho1> rcomalta___  I am using it as a webserver among other things
[13:57] <RatThing> snkmad I've seen lost partitions with an unexpected power outage but not in the case that you describe.
[13:57] <kaleh> tzd: it's just that u got a bit lucky. ;)
[13:57] <tzd> ikonia: Thanks for your great help. Apparantly my thunderbird syndrome is still weird (wont start with thunderbird or mozilla-thunderbird command i konsole) although i've recieved help to start it via usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird . After that I was able to link back to it via K-menu and voila it's back on track (apart from the konsole start)
[13:57] <tho1> snkmad I have a text file on restoring grub from the live cd....if you want I can pastebin it for you
[13:57] <snkmad> and the problem is, i have to do some urgent work, so no time to fix it now
[13:58] <tzd> kaleh: haha yep :) I thought of reinstalling the whole OS this morning but someone tipped me of this channel :)
[13:58] <vol_> Hello, I've just installed java 6 via apt-get, however, my links still point at 5. I know that there's a simple command to change these over, does anyone know what it is?
[13:58] <snkmad> tho1 id really appreciate that
[13:58] <syc0> hey tzd me too
[13:58] <syc0> tzd what happened to ur reinstall thing
[13:58] <vol_> Menu shortcuts work as well for me
[13:58] <jdecoste> anyone ever setup a multiseat pc ?
[13:58] <kaleh> tzd: that wudn't hv solved the problem in anyway
[13:58] <kaleh> !!
[13:58] <tzd> syc0: didn't have to reinstall.. got it working now ::D
[13:58] <syc0> hey kaleh good morning
[13:58] <void^> vol_: updates-alternatives --config java
[13:58] <vol_> thank you
[13:58] <syc0> what i did what change my sources.list from dappy to hardy
[13:59] <rcomalta___> if any one have a web server let me know
[13:59] <tzd> kaleh: yeah it would since I didn't have this problem until i decided to go for the nightly build of thunderbird
[13:59] <kaleh> syc0: good evening ;)
[13:59] <syc0> not hardy, gutsy
[13:59] <syc0> from dapper
[13:59] <syc0> (im new to ubuntu)
[13:59] <tho1> snkmad http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58
[13:59] <syc0> and then i try to upgrade every package, and i basically fail all the time because of VIM
[13:59] <snkmad> tho1 thx man
[13:59] <tho1> rcomalta___ yes...I use ubuntu as a webserver
[14:00] <syc0> so i did a aptitude -full-upgrade
[14:00] <syc0> and i fail with vim
[14:00] <wols> syc0: you cannot update to gutsy from dapper. only from dappre to edgy to feisty to gutsy
[14:00] <tho1> snkmad that was originally written to restore a botched boot sector...hence the references to fixing windows xp and then fixing grub
[14:00] <syc0> ooh nobody told me that
[14:00] <syc0> ok so i should change my sources.list
[14:00] <syc0> to ah, edgy sources
[14:00] <wols> syc0: you already have a fairly broken system now package management wise
[14:01] <rcomalta___> tho 1 is not let me delate files in var www why
[14:01] <syc0> resolution?
[14:01] <syc0> its quite easy to break this OS i feel now.
[14:01] <kaleh> syc0: how abt installing hardy from a CD?
[14:01] <syc0> its not working out like that.
[14:01] <tho1> rcomalta___ are you trying to delete them as root? or have you made your user a member of the www group?
[14:02] <rcomalta___> no
[14:02] <tho1> rcomalta___ it is just a permissions thing
[14:02] <syc0> i already have servers running
[14:02] <rcomalta___> how can i do that
[14:02] <rcomalta___> tho 1  no
[14:02] <makiolo__> !man
[14:02] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:02] <tho1> rcomalta___ I usually configure apache to point to a folder in my home directory for the wwwroot...that way I don't run into such problems
[14:02] <syc0> shit...
[14:02] <syc0> thanks for the quick help
[14:02] <Pici> !language | syc0
[14:02] <ubotu> syc0: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:02] <syc0> k
[14:02] <rcomalta___>  tho1 how can i do that
[14:03] <tho1> rcomalta___ I don't recall how I did it....I am logged into the server now looking...give me a minute
[14:03] <rcomalta___> thanks tho
[14:04] <syc0> what do i dooo
[14:04] <syc0> heh
[14:04] <Slart> tich: sorry... got some visitors.. about the translation thingy.. I guess you'll have to ask the developers.. they might even tell about any specifics or special things to consider.. starting without checking with the developers might just waste your time.. perhaps they have a finished translation they haven't released yet.
[14:05] <kitche> syc0: install hardy from cd not sure if they have an alternate cd or not which can be used to upgrade existing systems
[14:05] <tich> hiseran: i maybe figured it out... maybe.
[14:05] <tich> thanks for the help
[14:05] <Hiseran> tich: alright
[14:05] <syc0> its not working out like that
[14:05] <tich> slart:  i think i got it!
[14:05] <kitche> syc0: well then your stuck with a broken system
[14:06] <kitche> syc0: but install hardy from alternate cd is the safest way following the upgrade way but if you won't do that then your stuck\
[14:06] <kaleh> tzd: re-installing wouldn't work because this is thunderbird's problem, i guess. not the package manager's
[14:07] <tho1> rcomalta___ /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default I changed DocumentRoot to read 'DocumentRoot /home/<user>/public_html'
[14:07] <komputes> Can someone give me the command to remove a path from the $PATH variable? The path is /home/na/c/
[14:07] <karol^> hi, where do I need to add 'route add' commands to make them work on startup?
[14:07] <kitche> komputes: just remove /home/na/c from $PATH by reexporting it
[14:08] <david__> thol how can i do this please
[14:08] <komputes> kitche: whats the command to re-explore $PATH ???
[14:08] <david__> thol i am new in this can you help me how can i do this
[14:08] <kitche> komputes: export PATH=<whatyou want in your path>
[14:09] <kaleh> tzd: i guess thunderbird's packaging isn't right
[14:09] <komputes> kitche: how do i replace it with nuthin, null, nada ??
[14:09] <kaleh> tzd: since this is a nightly build
[14:09] <kitche> komputes: well if you replace PATh with nothing so it looks like export PATH=" " you'll won't be able to run any applications
[14:10] <Centipeed> Can anyone help me stop Pidgin opening on startup?
[14:10] <komputes> kitche: i just want to remove this one path, not all of them
[14:10] <Centipeed> I've looked at the options and can't find it
[14:10] <Centipeed> And it's not listed in the startup programs list
[14:10] <tho1> Centipeed you running gnome, kde or something else?
[14:10] <Centipeed> Gnome
[14:10] <kitche> komputes: well just remove /home/na/c from PATH then by rewriting the full PATH but leave out the directory that you don't want in it
[14:11] <komputes> kitche: oh wait, $PATH is bash window specific, so if i restart my shell it will be gone
[14:11] <tho1> Centipeed ok...this is old memory so may be wrong. When you log out is there a checkbox for saving the state?
[14:11] <Centipeed> You can't log out
[14:11] <Centipeed> As far as I can tell
[14:11] <syc0> why didnet the operating system STOP me from updating a conflicting package sourcelist
[14:11] <kitche> komputes: yes unless you wrote Path into a .bashrc or .bash_profile but it's shell specific not really bash
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: what about ~/.profile
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: can i put it in there too?
[14:12] <kitche> komputes: yes or that file
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: thanks
[14:12] <dadehoog> I'm backing up a video DVD (which already has a scratch on it - but seems to play ok) with DVD:Rip ... I'm keen to use an open format. I've selected "ogg" format, and the ".ogm" file format ... but I'm not sure which of the available codecs to pick ... thoughts ?
[14:13] <dadehoog> the default is XVid ... but I'm pretty sure that's not an open fomat.
[14:13] <david__> thol how can i edit this
[14:13] <david__> what i need to do
[14:13] <tho1> Centipeed as I recall for gnome, when you exit you are presented with a screen that allows logout, restart or shutdown, and there is a checkbox for saving the session
[14:13] <Centipeed> tho1: Oh. I thought you meant log out of Pidgin
[14:13] <tho1> Centipeed but I run xfce on all my linux boxes so this is old and maybe erroneous memory.
[14:14] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: you have it right
[14:14] <kitche> dadehoog: Xvid is open
[14:14] <Centipeed> There's no save session checkbox for me
[14:14] <tho1> Centipeed no...what you need to do is shut down pidgin, then log out of gnome and make sure you DO check the box...so it remembers pidgin is off
[14:14] <mattwalston> Anyone using vmware-server on gutsy?  If you logoff as the user that started VMs then the machines power off.  Any else notice that?
[14:15] <Centipeed> Ok. Imma try that
[14:15] <Centipeed> I'll be back if it doesn't work :P
[14:16] <pteague_work> is there any way to keep from getting the 'restricted drivers' pop up every time i reboot?
[14:17] <dadehoog> kitche: really ? I was under the impression that it was a commercially licensed MPEG-4 format ..?
[14:17] <kitche> dadehoog: that is Divx totally different codec
[14:17] <kitche> dadehoog: Xvid is the same thing as Divx but open source :)
[14:17] <dadehoog> kitche: okeydoke. :)
[14:18] <mohamed> hi gyts
[14:18] <mohamed> hi guys
[14:18] <dadehoog> kitche: and the name is a 'pun' on the reverse-engineering of DivX ?
[14:18] <mohamed> am having a problem with bluetooth anyone can help me ?
[14:18] <kitche> dadehoog: probably never looked into it
[14:18] <Centipeed> Ok, that's done
[14:18] <Centipeed> Pidgin no longer starts up
[14:18] <dadehoog> kitche: where is ogg/theora at ..? Is it mature enough for backups ?
[14:18] <willwork4foo> Hi! I've been trying to locate a decent howto for creating a bootable Ubuntu USB thumbdrive? I've found a guide that tells me how to do it in windows... only problem is I don't run windows.
[14:19] <tho1> Centipeed I have my moments
[14:19] <Centipeed> :D
[14:19] <syc0> what can i upgrade Gutsy to?
[14:19] <willwork4foo> anyone got any decent howto URLs?
[14:19] <syc0> hardy?
[14:19] <kitche> syc0: yes
[14:19] <tho1> Centipeed now next time you log out, remember to UNcheck the box so it doesn't remember what you have now (unless you want it to)
[14:19] <mohamed> guys help me
[14:19] <Centipeed> Problem now is that I've added devilspie to my startup programs, but it doesn't have any effect on irssi and Pidgin when I start them manually
[14:19] <kitche> dadehoog: it's good for audio never tried it for anything else though
[14:19] <syc0> is that recomended
[14:20] <kitche> syc0: well if you want to report bugreports and stuff for hardy then yes
[14:20] <L0we> mohamed: you can try dropping your problem here
[14:20] <mohamed> i cant send pictures by bluetooth to my ubuntu pc
[14:20] <L0we> i've problems with bluetooth too by the way
[14:20] <beasty_> is there anyone that can help me with my Xorg.conf ?
[14:20] <Hiseran> who wants chocolate chip okays
[14:20] <L0we> have you paired etc? what software do you use?
[14:21] <NickBurnsSNL> Greetings and Salutations to all ...
[14:21] <mohamed> i have the bluetooth icon up
[14:21] <Hiseran> nickburns
[14:21] <mohamed> i didnt install anything its there already
[14:21] <Hiseran> my name is Smith Comma John
[14:21] <Hiseran> greetings I am from earth
[14:21] <Hiseran> like all of you
[14:21] <L0we> ok, first you have to pair your phone with your pc
[14:21] <NickBurnsSNL> Hirsean:  excellent!
[14:21] <mohamed> my mobile cant see the my pc
[14:22] <L0we> in bluetoothpreferences you can set your pc to be visibl
[14:22] <L0we> e
[14:22] <freak124> I just installed LAMPP (XAMPP for linux), but now I have a little problem: whenever I go to http://localhost, I'm automaticaly redirected to http://localhost/xampp, even thoug there is an index.php in htdocs. Does anyone know how to solve this? It even happens when LAMPP isn't running.
[14:22] <mohamed> yes i did this
[14:22] <mohamed> i didnt solve the problem
[14:22] <L0we> still not visible?
[14:22] <mohamed> yes
[14:22] <NickBurnsSNL> I'm sure this has been asked before, but after the Fiesty upgrade, an existing users desktop windows appear to be 'stuck' and/or the toolbars are no longer available to grab and move around.
[14:23] <mohamed> but my pc shows that there is a phone but cant connect to it
[14:23] <NickBurnsSNL> But a user added 'after' seems to work fine.
[14:23] <kitche> freak124: xampp goes to localhost/xampp you need to configure xampp correctly since xampp highjacks port 80 if it's not configured correctly
[14:23] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: disable desktop effects
[14:23] <L0we> weird... have you paired your phone before with this pc?
[14:23] <mohamed> it works with vista
[14:23] <NickBurnsSNL> perfector: ah....! is that it?  cool I will try that, thank you.
[14:23] <L0we> in windows or something
[14:24] <mohamed> no problems
[14:24] <wo0f> yo
[14:24] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: its always best u disable desktop effects during updates
[14:24] <wo0f> have they fixed the bug in 7.10 about the loading screen?
[14:24] <L0we> your phone is confused, the mac address in windows and ubuntu is the same
[14:24] <freak124> kitche: that sounds like chinese to me. Can you tell me how to fix it? I'm new to ubuntu.
[14:24] <wo0f> its a pain installing 7.04 and then apting update
[14:24] <mohamed> i think its a bluetooth service missing to make it connect and send files
[14:24] <L0we> best thing is to delete the partnership with vista
[14:25] <lesshaste_> what app will let me see someone's webcam easily?
[14:25] <LimCore> why ubuntu fails to provide jabber client that doesnt suck?
[14:25] <NickBurnsSNL> perfector:  thanks for the tip!
[14:25] <lesshaste_> skype video doesn't seem to exist for linux
[14:25] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: uw
[14:25] <mohamed> Lowe
[14:25] <kitche> wo0f: what bug?
[14:25] <perfector> lesshaste_: r u sure?
[14:25] <tho1> lesshaste_ actually skype video does now exist and is the only thing I have found that operates my webcam correctly
[14:25] <L0we> mohamed: yeah, still here....
[14:25] <lesshaste_> tho1, ah!
[14:25] <perfector> tho1: thanks
[14:25] <lesshaste_> tho1, is there a ubuntu package?
[14:26] <mohamed> any ideas how to add serices to bluetooth
[14:26] <mohamed> services
[14:26] <tho1> lesshaste_ Don't know...the laptop is running suse, my webserver runs ubuntu
[14:26] <L0we> no, that's my problem too, but for that you have to be paired
[14:27] <mohamed> how to pair it
[14:27] <L0we> remove the partnership from the phone
[14:27] <L0we> after that, scan again and connect
[14:27] <L0we> (from your phone)
[14:28] <mohamed> my phone doesnt discover it .... but my pc can see the phone
[14:28] <mohamed> when i browse i can see my phone
[14:28] <lesshaste_> what version of skype does video ?
[14:28] <komputes> skype beta
[14:28] <mohamed> but when i press connect it gives an error
[14:29] <L0we> mohamed: have you removed your partnership with your pc on the phone?
[14:29] <perfector> mohamed: whats the error
[14:29] <cyka^> hey people.... state of emergency here
[14:29] <cyka^> :S
[14:30] <komputes> lesshaste v 2.0 beta - http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/
[14:30] <perfector> cyka^: well just shoot
[14:30] <cyka^> ubuntu seems to ahve dropped a partition... and i have no idea how to get it backk...
[14:30] <karol^> can I add static routes to /etc/interfaces without disabling dhcp?
[14:30] <perfector> cyka^: dropped?? u mean u cant see it on ur desktop?
[14:30] <karol^> all examples I found have iface eth0 inet static
[14:30] <cyka^> a 175gb partition whichc contains all my music n movies
[14:30] <mohamed> "obex://[00:19:63:a2:42:47]" is not a valid location
[14:30] <komputes> lesshaste_: I have used it (http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/) it works, but may crash with video sometimes
[14:30] <Centipeed> I've got devilspie ~/.devilsppie/*.ds" in my startup programs, but it doesn't appear to do anything
[14:30] <mohamed> please check the spelling and try again
[14:30] <cyka^> yeah and it doesn't seem to want to read it correctly either
[14:31] <perfector> cyka^: is it a ntfs partition?
[14:31] <Centipeed> After I start up, I open irssi and Pidgin (The two programs it affects when it is running), and there is no effect seen
[14:31] <cyka^> yes it is
[14:31] <Centipeed> Although if I start up devilspie manually, it'll work fine
[14:31] <cyka^> but the other partition on that hd is ntfs and it reads that fine
[14:31] <tho1> cyka^ this might help...I haven't heard back from the other guy <smile>
[14:31] <komputes> Does anyone know what file I can run start up scripts from?
[14:31] <perfector> cyka^: typical.. did ur windows not shutdown properly?
[14:31] <tho1> cyka^  http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58
[14:32] <komputes> I have a few bash scripts i want to run at startup
[14:32] <lesshaste_> komputes, thanks
[14:32] <mohamed> perfecor you there
[14:32] <komputes> lesshaste_: no problem, good luck
[14:32] <cyka^> perfector, i'm not using windows...
[14:32] <komputes> Does anyone know what file I can run start up scripts from? I have a few bash scripts i want to run at startup.
[14:32] <cyka^> i'm running ubuntu 7.10
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: rc.local ?
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: or create your own init script
[14:33] <komputes> ikonia: thank you
[14:33] <L0we> mohamed: iv'e asked you twice whether you've deleted the partnership on your phone or not
[14:33] <L0we> that's your problem
[14:33] <komputes> ikonia: how do i add my init script, so i put it in etc/init.d ?
[14:33] <mohamed> ok let me check
[14:33] <perfector> cyka^: just manually force mounting the partition from command line
[14:33] <LimCore> how to install more recent version of some applications?
[14:33] <perfector> cyka^: and follow instructions after that
[14:33] <LimCore> that are not yet in normall ubuntu 7.10
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: if you want to create your own init script, then use then use rc-update to add it, or you can just add it to the rc.local file which gets run at boot
[14:34] <cyka^> how do u do that perfector ?
[14:34] <cyka^> force mount
[14:34] <cyka^> ?
[14:34] <L0we> after that you've to pair again with ubuntu
[14:34] <tho1> komputes you put the script in /etc/init.d, but to get it to run at bootup you link it to rc2.d rc3.d...whatever
[14:34] <perfector> cyka^: man mount; man ntfsmount
[14:35] <mohamed> perfecor .. it worked ... it bonded with my pc
[14:36] <perfector> mohamed: no dude its "perfector"
[14:36] <mohamed> let me see if i can send and recieve
[14:38] <Centipeed> What would suddenly cause my grub boot menu to be overwritten?
[14:38] <ikonia> Centipeed: kernel update ?
[14:38] <perfector> Centipeed: an upgrade
[14:38] <ikonia> Centipeed: someone messing around ?
[14:39] <ikonia> Centipeed: what is the problem
[14:39] <Centipeed> I've gotten the original back
[14:39] <Centipeed> Without the entry for Windows XP
[14:39] <mohamed> perfector ... there is a problem ... my phone cant see my pc and vise versa
[14:39] <perfector> Centipeed: gubs smart hee hee
[14:39] <cyka^> grrr
[14:39] <perfector> Centipeed: grubs*
[14:39] <cyka^> only root can do that
[14:40] <mohamed> but the new thing is on my pc it says BONDED and TRUSTED
[14:40] <ikonia> Centipeed: have you changed anything with your windows setup, bios or disk layout
[14:40] <cyka^> stupid permissions stuff
[14:40] <Centipeed> ikonia: Not that I'm aware of
[14:40] <magicrobotmonkey> is there a way to install firefox 2 beta alongside ff 2 like the alpha is in gutsy?
[14:40] <Centipeed> Problem is there's no backup of my old GRUB list in the folder
[14:40] <Centipeed> So now I'll have to rewrite it :(
[14:40] <ikonia> magicrobotmonkey: not from within the package managmer
[14:41] <perfector> Centipeed: not if u r running graphical.. there sure is a graphical tool to do that
[14:41] <chraso> hi node
[14:41] <tho1> Centipeed there is a note about rewriting the windows portion of menu.lst in that pastebin
[14:41] <gurut> greetings. I cant find the snow plugin in my advanced desktop effects settings and I have compiz-extras installed. Where is the snow plugin or how do I enable ot?
[14:41] <malin> hi
[14:41] <kakoonia> hey...
[14:42] <bazhang> hi malin
[14:42] <chraso> can anyone tell me where can i find the upgrade build for compiz of ubuntu fiesty 7.04 as well as ccsm and other compiz tools
[14:42] <gurut> I have ubuntu 7.10
[14:42] <kakoonia> my sound card all of a sudden, disappeared from the device list..
[14:42] <malin> i cannot get my internet connection using 7.10 liveCD, dunno what's wrong, everything seems to be configured ok
[14:42] <kakoonia> now, i have no sound
[14:42] <kitche> chraso: it might be in backports
[14:43] <perfector> kakoonia: u may just have to modprobe the module again
[14:43] <MacTheMad> could someone recommend a good anti-virus program for ubuntu?
[14:43] <Centipeed> tho1: What pastebin?
[14:43] <malin> i get the settings from dhcp, there exaclty the same as in the suse distribution i'm using at the moment
[14:43] <komputes> i think /etc/rclocal affects all users... how do i make it specific to my user only?
[14:43] <ikonia> komputes: thats quite specific
[14:43] <perfector> MacTheMad: f-prot and clam
[14:43] <tho1> Centipeed  http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58 wasn't it you I put that up for? or are others having the same problem ,smile>
[14:43] <ikonia> komputes: put it in your .bashrc to execute on login
[14:43] <Ryuho> BlogBridge or RSSOwl?
[14:44] <MacTheMad> ty perfector
[14:44] <kakoonia> perfector: what do you mean? how do i use modprobe? and what is it?
[14:44] <wols> komputes: you don't. run it in the user's startup script?
[14:44] <komputes> ikonia: isn't the .bashrc run command for when i open gnome-terminal?
[14:44] <ikonia> komputes: yes, it is. At what point do you want it to riun
[14:44] <ikonia> run
[14:44] <komputes> wols: where is the user startup script?
[14:44] <perfector> kakoonia: man modprobe after u know ur sound card and the driver it uses
[14:44] <komputes> after my login
[14:44] <wols> komputes: in your ~
[14:44] <cyka^> perfector, i just check in fstab and it's there
[14:45] <perfector> cyka^: yup it will be. use "mount" to see if its mounted or not
[14:45] <pteague_work> is there any way to get gnome to ask me for my ssh key password without having to go to the command line & use ssh-add (which i usually use anyways...)
[14:45] <kakoonia> perfector: Thanks.
[14:45] <perfector> kakoonia: uw
[14:46] <ikonia> pteague_work: yes, ssh-ask-pass
[14:46] <komputes> wols: whats the ~/startupscript file called?
[14:46] <cyka^> i tried that mount thing
[14:46] <tho1> Centipeed be careful with that note...there is a digit missing in the windows xp entry...where it defines the boot sector needs to be (0,x) not (0,) there needs to be one more digit
[14:46] <cyka^> but got thge usuage wrong i think
[14:46] <cyka^> i'm crap at cmd line stuff
[14:46] <perfector> cyka^: what does it say??
[14:46] <cyka^> not long beeing using linux
[14:46] <cyka^> so am still very much a n00b
[14:46] <burntlips> rver onlygrace.ablazenet.com
[14:46] <perfector> cyka^: i think u need to use ntfsmount
[14:47] <komputes> Whats the name of the user specific startup script?
[14:47] <perfector> cyka^: everybody is
[14:47] <malin> how about that internet connection problems? can anyone help?
[14:47] <chraso> i have a problem with my ATI Radeon Xpress 200 chipset. when i enables desktop-effects i gets white screen i tried with the fglrx driver in came with the distribution but after using it the desktop-effects says "The Composite extension not available" help me.
[14:47] <kitche> komputes: ~/.bashrc is one or ~/.bash_profile
[14:47] <pteague_work> ikonia> is that something i need to find in the menu or shouldn't nautilus already pick up on that?
[14:48] <kitche> komputes: but I believe .bashrc is the one you want I usually make them both run from .bashrc so I know both are ran
[14:48] <ikonia> pteague_work: you need to launch ssh-ask-pass on login
[14:48] <cyka^> : mount -t type device dir????
[14:48] <SimNIX> hiya
[14:49] <cyka^> brb having a stab at mounting it in root
[14:50] <gurut> greetings. I cant find the snow plugin in my advanced desktop effects settings and I have compiz-extras installed. Where is the snow plugin or how do I enable it? I am running on Ubuntu 7.10 desktop
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gurut: BEst to ask that in #Ubuntu-effects  or is that compiz-effects
[14:52] <gurut> I think its a compiz-effect
[14:52] <pteague_work> hmm... now to try to get firefox's url to stop on certain characters...  anybody have any ideas?
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[14:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: it would be Ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: its #compiz-fusion now
[14:52] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow,kitche: #ubuntu-effects forwards to #compiz-fusion though
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks and goodmorning pici...  still waiting for that first cup of coffee to perk
[14:53] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: been in a meeting ;)
[14:55] <rameshasdf> if /dev/hdb3 means (hd1,2) what does /dev/sda1 means
[14:55] <rameshasdf> in grub
[14:56] <mohamed> السلام عليكم
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hd0,0
[14:56] <perfector> can some1 pls tell me how to get the icon text in my gtk apps
[14:56] <Pici> !ar | mohamed
[14:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:56] <Pici> !arabic | mohamed
[14:56] <ubotu> mohamed: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[14:56] <rameshasdf> jack sparrow how can u tell it
[14:57] <rameshasdf> and is it hd or sd
[14:57] <perfector> im so fed up trying to get it fixed
[14:57] <perfector> im sure im missing a package.. but which 1
[14:57] <chraso> thanks node i think i find what i was lookin for
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> grub doesnt diferenciate
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> it is hd0,0
[14:58] <perfector> Jack_Sparrow: sd would be sata/scsi drives and hd would be ide drives if im not wrong
[14:59] <rameshasdf> yes mine is sata
[14:59] <perfector> Jack_Sparrow: but in newer releases everything is sd
[14:59] <wols> perfector: to a point. with libata everything is sda
[14:59] <perfector> wols: yeah thats right libata.. thanks
[15:00] <rameshasdf> ok so is in the installation menu in ubuntu instead of hd0 for grub i must type sd0
[15:00] <wols>  rameshasdf no
[15:00] <wols> there never is a sd0
[15:01] <Pici> wols: The distiction they were making was for device nodes, its always hd# for grub (right?)
[15:01] <kitche> wols: well grub does have a sd0 actually but I think it doesn't count anymore anyways
[15:01] <rameshasdf> but then why doesn't it detect my linux installation in grub
[15:01] <wols> Pici: yes always. and grub only deals with BIOS drives. (0x80, 0x81 and so on)
[15:01] <wols> never with linux devicenodes
[15:01] <Pici> wols: Right
[15:01] <wols> for the installation of grub device.map determins the mapping grub uses
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> perfector: I run sata drives including my burner and it shows up as hd
[15:02] <wols> rameshasdf: what error do you get in grub?
[15:02] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: what sata controller?
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> No idea what is in this box
[15:02] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: lspci :)
[15:02] <SpookyET> How do you copy symbolic links with nautilus without them getting broken?
[15:03] <perfector> wols: Jack_Sparrow hmm
[15:03] <rameshasdf> damit i forgot i will try another install and get back to u
[15:03] <wols> rameshasdf: did you get a grub bootmenu?
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: after coffee.....
[15:03] <wols> rameshasdf: or only an error message?
[15:03] <rameshasdf> thx for the help guys will get back
[15:04] <rameshasdf> i got the boot menu
[15:04] <rameshasdf> but  when select ubuntu and hit enter
[15:04] <wols> rameshasdf: pastebin your menu.lst then please
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> rameshasdf: duplicate the entry with sd0,0
[15:05] <rameshasdf> it says i couldn't dectect my linux filesystem
[15:05] <rameshasdf> same for windows
[15:05] <wols> rameshasdf: you filesystem is?
[15:05] <tho1> SpookyET as a general rule you don't copy links...you remake them
[15:05] <rameshasdf> ext3
[15:05] <rameshasdf> will do that
[15:06] <rameshasdf> and get back to you
[15:06] <komputes> Has anyone here created a custom usplash theme on Gutsy?
[15:06] <kiliko> How can i my homepage package with apt-get?
[15:07] <perfector> komputes: interesting question. i would mind trying that out
[15:07] <Pici> kiliko: Can you rephrase that?
[15:07] <perfector> komputes: *wouldnt
[15:07] <komputes> perfector: good luck, maybe you'll have better luck than me (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto)
[15:07] <wols> kiliko: you want to make a homepage and need a html editor?
[15:08] <quaal> what is the firefox called that is faster/lighter
[15:08] <Pici> quaal: prism?
[15:08] <quaal> nah
[15:08] <quaal> i thought it was fasterfox but thats just a plugin
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> swiftfox
[15:08] <quaal> swift!
[15:08] <quaal> yes
[15:08] <komputes> perfector: took me 5 minutes, but i don't know if it's badly written or if new versions of gcc and pngtobogl broke....
[15:09] <perfector> komputes: thanks for the link
[15:09] <kiliko> Pici, wols, ops i mean: How can i test my homemade package with apt-get?
[15:09] <komputes> perfector: let me know if it works for you, I have a lot of custom themes I would like to make for gnome-look
[15:10] <perfector> komputes: u got it working riht?
[15:10] <perfector> *right
[15:10] <Prodromoi> Afternoon folks.
[15:10] <Prodromoi> Would someone be able to help me with a newbie question about DHCP please?
[15:10] <Shapeshifter> I have this script to start Trillian and then run some python scripts. It works if I run it manually, but I added it to the session, and now the python scripts wont be executed. Whats the problem? http://nopaste.ch/a10fbf22d5e187b.html
[15:10] <neosix_> kiliko: put package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:11] <Kl4m> !ask
[15:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:11] <Prodromoi> I've got a new install of 7,10 and the DHCP isn't allocating an IP correctly.
[15:11] <kiliko> neosix_, i did but it can't find the packge to i need special syntax on the filename?
[15:11] <komputes> perfector: no, i did not get it working right
[15:11] <Pici> kiliko: You'd have to put it in a package repository for apt-get to get it.
[15:11] <komputes> perfector: i hope you will
[15:11] <perfector> komputes: hmm.. thanks a million. im fed up with my usplash
[15:11] <quaal> so does anyone know if swiftfox is actually swifter?
[15:11] <Prodromoi> I've checked the network cable, the route and the network card - they're all working.
[15:12] <Shapeshifter> quaal: It should be according to some benchomarks
[15:12] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: you installed a dhcp server which doesn't give IPs or it's a DHCP client?
[15:12] <neosix_> kiliko: well that packages doesn't exist in apt-list
[15:12] <Prodromoi> The router is giving the right IPs to the other three machines on the LAN.
[15:12] <Pici> kiliko: Launchpad.net provides PPA (personal package archives) that are basically a personal apt repository for people.  Join #launchpad or visit launchpad.net for more.
[15:12] <kiliko> Pici, seems like an overkill for me, or is there any good package for creating a fast repo?
[15:12] <Pici> kiliko: see above ^
[15:12] <Prodromoi> Kl4m - not sure I'm afraid.  It's whatever the default of 7.10 64-bit Ubuntu installed.
[15:13] <Prodromoi> Since the machine can't see the net, it can't update and I can't install anything else.
[15:13] <tonino> g nickserv register tonino tonino@tonino.it
[15:13] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: ok the router gives the IPs so you're a dhcp client
[15:13] <komputes> perfector: a lot of people are fed up with their usplash, which is why I want to post all of mine that I created on gnome-look.org, but I can't using this tutorial and gutsy
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> kiliko: are you looking for something like aptoncd
[15:14] <Prodromoi> The router should be giving 192.168.x.x... but this machine always ends up with 169.254.7.100
[15:14] <perfector> komputes: i use feisty and im not sure if usplash has anything to do with gnome
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > kiliko
[15:15] <Shapeshifter> quaal: It should be according to some benchomarks
[15:15] <Shapeshifter> I have this script to start Trillian and then run some python scripts. It works if I run it manually, but I added it to the session, and now the python scripts wont be executed. Whats the problem? http://nopaste.ch/a10fbf22d5e187b.html
[15:15] <Prodromoi> Any ideas what's wrong, and what I need to change?
[15:15] <quaal> trillian?
[15:15] <Prodromoi> Config file somewhere, or a router setting?
[15:15] <komputes> perfector: gnome-look.org has all kinds of OS mods including bootsplash themes
[15:15] <quaal> what in the dong are you doing using trillian
[15:16] <boris> hi
[15:16] <boris> are there any DJ apps for Linux, like DSS DJ for windoze ?
[15:16] <pteague_work> can anybody tell what character set this is coming from? i'm just getting question marks - RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://((www�dev�test)\.)?server\.(org�com)
[15:16] <perfector> boris: try LMMS
[15:17] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: go to system - admin - network and be sure that 1. the proper network card is active 2. it uses dhcp. If it fails still try setting a static IP
[15:17] <Pici> boris: Check out the packages in the ubuntustudio-audio (I think thats what it is) metapackage and the #ubuntustudio channel as well
[15:17] <Whitor> Can I switch from Gnome to KDE without logging out ?
[15:18] <pteague_work> anybody have any ideas on how to get firefox's urlbar to stop on certain characters?  yeah... like on windows if the urlbar has http://phpfi.com/284070 & i double click anywhere in the 284070 it selects only that instead of the entire url - not only that, but i can use CTRL+arrow key to navigate through segments of text in the urlbar... i.e. it will stop on /, =, &, ?, etc
[15:18] <perfector> does any1 here have a problem with gtk apps and xubuntu
[15:18] <perfector> does any1 here have a problem with gtk apps and xubuntu?
[15:19] <Prodromoi> Kl4m... OK.  Was on roaming mode.  Have changed to DHCP... going to see what happens.
[15:19] <tho1> perfector I am running xfce in both ubuntu and suse and run gtk apps without problems
[15:19] <MacTheMad> what (if anything) can someone tell me about avg free for debian/ubuntu linux? Why isn't it in the synaptic package list? How do I get it? (when I try to download (http) I just get a bunch of strange text appearing upon my display)
[15:19] <Malin^> well, i give up, i cannot figure out what's wrong with the network settings at my liveCD
[15:19] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: roaming mode is default. You can put DHCP on a desktop no problem.
[15:19] <perfector> tho1: i can see any text on my gtk apps buttons any idea y
[15:20] <Malin^> i launch suse, everything works fine, i switch to ubuntu, no network
[15:20] <tho1> perfector I have in the past run into some config problems with text...I think there is a gtk editor that I used to straighten it out.
[15:20] <Pici> perfector: Any recent theme changes?
[15:20] <linux4me> i'm running ubuntu 7.10 under vmware v5.51, how can i add another disk to the works? i am running out of space. tks
[15:20] <perfector> tho1: pici no.. this is right from the start
[15:21] <Prodromoi> Kl4m - on the machine that I'm typing on... on the same network... it's on roaming mode and everything is fine.  Surely the same should be true of the other one?
[15:21] <perfector> tho1: pici i have to guess a lot while using apps like audacity hee hee
[15:21] <pete1> hello
[15:21] <linux4me> i've added a disk to the vm setup but ubuntu doesn't see the disk. i think i'm missing something here in ubuntu
[15:21] <tho1> perfector gtk-config....see if that helps any
[15:21] <perfector> tho1: lemme try
[15:22] <perfector> tho1: i didnt have that installed..
[15:22] <Prodromoi> Hmm.  Changing to DHCP didn't make a difference.  I'll try a static IP.
[15:22] <perfector> tho1: whats the package name?
[15:22] <Malin^> i tried with dhcp, tried with manual settings, nothing works
[15:23] <Malin^> i'm out of ideas what might be wrong
[15:23] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: well yes but it doesn't. Maybe it's a problem related to a 64 bit client, maybe it's the router which is not completely dhcp compliant. Try static
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: You are talking about the anti-virus program right...  Just trying to clarify
[15:23] <tho1> perfector not sure...looking now to see if I can recall what I did. Once I got it all set it gave me no problems so it has been a while
[15:23] <perfector> tho1: god.. thats tempting
[15:23] <bundagan> anybody tried ati catalyst 7.11?
[15:23] <CroX> So I've downloaded FF3. But when I try running it (from the Desktop, since I don't know where or how to install it) all it does is launch FF2. Anyone care to help me with this?
[15:24] <EdgEy> how did you download ff3 ?
[15:24] <wols> CroX: where did you download it to?
[15:24] <rcomalta___> any one run here ubuntu server ver
[15:24] <wols> !anyone | rcomalta___
[15:24] <ubotu> rcomalta___: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:24] <CroX> wols: My desktop.
[15:24] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: yes, I was referred to f-prot & clam but I'm unsure which out of all the options to choose from I would want to install... I'm very familiar with avg tho from windows
[15:24] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: mask will be  255.255.255.0 address will be 192.168.x.25 gateway will be 192.168.x.1 , where x is the same as on the other machine.
[15:25] <EdgEy> CroX, is it a .deb? source files? what
[15:25] <wols> CroX: and what is the full filename?
[15:25] <rcomalta___> does any oneone run ubuntu server ver
[15:25] <EdgEy> mm yes, good plan
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: I am not surprised it isnt in the repos as it isnt needed in linux-ubuntu, just for those most likely you that are trying to protect their windows users
[15:25] <CroX> EdgEy: Från mozilla.com, a tarball with binaries
[15:25] <wols> MacTheMad: why do you want a virus scanner?
[15:25] <CroX> wolferine: firefox and firefox-bin
[15:25] <CroX> wols: firefox and firefox-bin
[15:25] <Kl4m> rcomalta___: see above, and yes many people run ubuntu server, but what is "ver"?
[15:25] <wols> CroX: I said FULL filename.
[15:25] <linux4me> another vmware 5.5.1, ubuntu 7.10 question. how can I get ubuntu 7.10 to see my dvd burner as i want to burn an iso image. when i right click on the iso image in ubuntu, i only get the option to write to disc image and not a dvd or cd. any thoughts?
[15:25] <MacTheMad> wols: for windows file sharing
[15:26] <CroX> wols: firefox and firefox-bin is the FULL filenames of the binaries.
[15:26] <ip00n> does anyone know how i get myself unbanned from #math?
[15:26] <wols> linux4me: use a burn program like k3b or gnomebaker
[15:26] <CroX> ip00n: How does one get banned to that channel? :P
[15:26] <syc0> what i did what change my sources.list from dapper to gutsy , now its not working what do i do?
[15:26] <ip00n> crox: i dont know.
[15:26] <wols> ip00n: offtopic. ask #freenode
[15:26] <ip00n> ah
[15:26] <ip00n> thanks
[15:26] <Kl4m> ip00n: ask #not-math
[15:27] <perfector> tho1: i tried searching synaptic with name and description for gtk-config.. found none
[15:27] <wols> syc0: tell us more about the errors
[15:27] <malin> any ideas on my network problems?
[15:27] <syc0> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[15:27] <syc0> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:27] <syc0>   vim: Depends: vim-common (= 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2) but 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6.1 is installed
[15:27] <syc0>        Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2) but 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6.1 is installed
[15:27] <Pici> !paste | syc0
[15:27] <ubotu> syc0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:27] <wols>  perfector packages.ubuntu.com. hint: it's not a package but a program
[15:27] <wols> syc0: stop that!
[15:27] <wols> syc0: remove vim
[15:28] <syc0> ok!
[15:28] <perfector> wols: ok its in the package libgtk1.2-dev tho1
[15:28] <tho1> perfector I'm sorry...can't seem to find it. I located it by accident found it on a menu someplace. It was some sort of gtk configurator...found several web pages about editing .gtkrc and changing fonts, but can't find a reference to that program
[15:28] <wols> malin: do you have a network interface? sudo ifconfig -a. what network card/chip is it?
[15:28] <perfector> wols: tho1 hope it works
[15:28] <drez> hi ppl
[15:29] <syc0> ok 1 sec
[15:29] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: does linux not need any av protection? what if I implement windows file sharing via samba?
[15:29] <wols> MacTheMad: windows malware cannot infect linux in a meaningful way
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[15:29] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[15:29] <malin> wols, everything runs from liveCD, network interface looks ok, i'll check the network card
[15:29] <wols> MacTheMad: there are about 5 or 6 malware programs out in the wild for linux max
[15:29] <wols> malin: I asked you something
[15:29] <drez> i want ubuntu set to english language but with the dutch monetary notation, where do i set that en how?
[15:30] <syc0> THanks
[15:30] <wols> drez: /etc/environment for console. not sure about X/gnome
[15:30] <MacTheMad> wols: ok but what about the windows machines that will connect?
[15:30] <syc0> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:30] <syc0> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:30] <wols> MacTheMad: AV programs are snake oil
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: let the windows people fend for themselves
[15:31]  * wols puts syc0 on ignore for extended channel pasting
[15:31] <syc0> wols deal with it
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: behave
[15:31] <dundel> hmmmm
[15:31] <Pici> syc0: Use a pastebin.
[15:31] <syc0> sorry i dont know the rules
[15:31] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: yeah but I gotta fix them when they go down LOL
[15:31] <syc0> !pastebin
[15:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:31] <syc0> Oooh
[15:31] <syc0> Nice!
[15:32] <syc0> this channel is quite unique.
[15:32] <malin> wols: the network card is ASRock In RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[15:32] <wols> MacTheMad: checking with linux is the wrong approach tho. not the least cause there aren't any good linux AV programs. just no need
[15:32] <wols> malin: I asked for an existing interface
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: they all need to have av and anti-spy and anti-ad and better firewalls so deal with it on that side.
[15:32] <MacTheMad> wols: ty
[15:32] <chraso> hey node
[15:32] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: ty
[15:32] <Pici> MacTheMad: There are linux antivirus programs, but afaik, they only detect windows viruses.
[15:33] <malin> wols, ifconfig shows that it's eth0
[15:33] <Slart> anyone know of a good howto for securing a ubuntu box? things to think of etc..
[15:33] <wols> Pici: but compared to windows ones they are not very sophisticated
[15:33] <Pici> wols: Right, they are more for mailservers/fileservers.
[15:33] <wols> malin: driver it uses it 8139too?
[15:33] <syc0> ok heres a beter result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49027/
[15:33] <malin> yes
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: thanks
[15:34] <drez> wols: how do i set the monetary variables?
[15:34] <drez> which names
[15:34] <chraso> need help again about that stupic error. "The Composite extension not available" when trying to even just run desktop-effects anyone please assist me about this error. i'm using fglrx driver came with fiesty dvd
[15:34] <MacTheMad> pici: that's ok... it would be more for the windows boxes that will connect to this file server once I've got it up
[15:34] <Pici> chraso: What video card?
[15:35] <wols> drez: man locale. LC_MONETARY
[15:35] <tho1> google thinks 'gnome config editor' is a virus!
[15:35] <chraso> ATI Readon Xpress 200
[15:35] <chraso> its onboard
[15:35] <syc0> Jack_Sparrow: i changed source.list from dapper to gutsy... did apt-get update, upgrade, i tried all the apt-get options heh. and aptitude etc..
[15:35] <wols> chraso: is xserver-xgl installed and running?
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: you cant do that
[15:36] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: unfortunately he already has
[15:36] <drez> wols: thanks
[15:36] <chraso> don't know how do i?
[15:36] <wols> chraso: ps aux |grep -i xgl
[15:36] <syc0> yeah i thought it would say, no, new ubuntu user, you cannot do that
[15:36] <syc0> heh
[15:36] <jpg> how can i autoupgrade my ubuntu? i've got major errors...
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: obciously he can and did.. but it wont work
[15:36] <pteague_work> i figured out my firefox issue...  layout.word_select.stop_at_punctuation ... it's turned off by default seemingly on everything except windows
[15:36] <Pici> !wfm
[15:36] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:36] <syc0> it must be very common
[15:36] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: with enough --force it will. but if he can pull it off is another matter
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: easier to save his stuff and reinstall
[15:37] <Pici> syc0: The reccomended upgrade path is through each version, ie: dapper to edgy. edgy to feisty, feisty to gutsy.
[15:37] <MacTheMad> pici: however I think I'm going to take jack sparrow's & wols' advice & deal with it on the windows side... I just don't understand how they get infected... I download p2p all the time & very rarely get infected & on those few occasions I've always been able to quickly & easily fix
[15:37] <Pici> MacTheMad: Sounds good.
[15:37] <wols> jpg: upgrade from what to what?
[15:37] <MacTheMad> ty all... try not 2 bother u again 4 awhile
[15:38] <syc0> now what?
[15:38] <syc0> Jack_Sparrow what should i do?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0:  I would suggest save your stuff and reinstall
[15:38] <syc0> pathetic.
[15:38] <syc0> hehe
[15:38] <chraso> will have to reboot for that(as i have dial up and can't find the driver for modem.it's agere pci sv92pp. pm me if u knows about its driver available for lin) and what after that?
[15:38] <syc0> aye yaye yayeee
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: If you have a backup from dapper you could go back and start over
[15:39] <Freakazoi1> fglrx kills me
[15:39] <syc0> heh
[15:39] <syc0> i dont think i d
[15:39] <syc0> do*
[15:39] <Pici> syc0: If you had read the documentation on upgrading you would know that we specifically reccomend agains that.
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > syc0
[15:39] <syc0> well, i thats what i was doing a walk through
[15:39] <Tyczek> lol... compiz is buggy a bit... or ati is messing
[15:39] <Tyczek> xd
[15:39] <malin> wols, i can assume that it' s not a problem that i run ubuntu from liveCD instead of hard drive install, it should be working normally, right?
[15:39] <syc0> sorry im new here
[15:39] <Pici> syc0: From where?
[15:39] <Freakazoi1> some1 cann tell me why flgrx and fglgears logs me out?
[15:39] <wols> malin: yes. especially with a 8139 card
[15:39] <syc0> Im new to the Ubuntu OS and Channel.
[15:40] <Eyemean> hi lastnight i used devede to convert mpeg1 and meg2 files to vcd format, played 2day and sound wasnt even recognisable
[15:40] <Eyemean> anyone know wat else i can use
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: you can see the topic as well as the coc link
[15:40] <Pici> syc0: I understand, what walkthrough told you to do that is what I'm asking.
[15:40] <malin> well. then i have completely no idea what might be wrong
[15:40] <syc0> hey, well thanks a lot! honestly, this channel is helpful++
[15:40] <Pici> syc0: fyi, thats what these !rules factoids are for, we know not everyone can know the rules.
[15:40] <malin> i've tried everything, i think
[15:40] <wols> malin: what errors do you get when you run sudo dhclient eth0? what syslog output if any?
[15:41] <chraso> >wols< what after that?
[15:41] <malin> wols, havent tried that
[15:41] <alee_dmi> any one from indonesia?
[15:41] <wols> chraso: is something like xgl running?
[15:41] <jpg> wols, i've been using this synaptic autoupdate and now it just quits with an error, saying use "sudo ap-get install -f" to fix errors, but it doesn't fix anything, only quits with this error message: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-xsp_1.2.4-1.1ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):". I've got  Ubuntu 7.10, Kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[15:41] <Pici> !id | alee_dmi
[15:41] <pidix> how can i add a user to a group?
[15:41] <ubotu> alee_dmi: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[15:41] <jrib> pidix: system -> administration -> users and groups
[15:41] <chraso> what if yes?
[15:42] <pidix> i haven't got graphical interface
[15:42] <alee_dmi> any one from indonesia?
[15:42] <pidix> i use ubuntu server
[15:42] <pidix> only with command line
[15:42] <ubuntu> hi
[15:42] <pteague_work> is there a way to get aptitude to list all of the installed packages?
[15:42] <wols> chraso: that modem is a winmodem. good luck there
[15:42] <jrib> pidix: adduser USER GROUP
[15:42] <malin> i'll try to get some more info about that dhclient, brb
[15:42] <RoAkSoAx> pidix, gpasswd -a user group
[15:42] <chraso> i think its because i used the proprietory driver i installed that came with the fiesty dvd
[15:42] <pidix> but the user already exists
[15:42] <pidix> ...
[15:42] <Pici> pteague_work: theres dpkg -l
[15:42] <pteague_work> pidix> adduser --help :)
[15:42] <pidix> thanks
[15:42] <jrib> pidix: so?
[15:42] <pidix> ok ok
[15:42] <chraso> what a luck yaar
[15:42] <RoAkSoAx> pidix, do this: gpasswd -a Username Group
[15:43] <wols> jpg: delete the file in  /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-xsp_1.2.4-1.1ubuntu1_all.deb
[15:43] <Pici> pidix: adduser user group will add the user to a group if the user already exists
[15:43] <alee_dmi> ada yang dari indonesia ga' :-)
[15:43] <wols> jpg: and paste the FULL output of apt-get
[15:43] <pidix> ok Pici thanks
[15:43] <chraso> so that means now lin driver avail. for the mod?
[15:43] <Pici> alee_dmi: join #ubuntu-id for indonesia
[15:43] <wols> alee_dmi: english only. do you have a ubuntu related question?
[15:43] <pidix> thanks to all
[15:43] <pidix> :-)
[15:43] <alee_dmi> tank's
[15:43] <pteague_work> Pici> thanks... guess i can still parse that & figure out what to remove
[15:44] <Pici> pteague_work: You could also use the aptitude front-end
[15:44] <alnokta_> wols, who decided #ubuntu to be an english only channel?
[15:44] <Pici> pteague_work: just run it with no arguments.
[15:44] <pteague_work> pici> yeah, but i was hoping to use grep on it to see what was auto installed
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: it is and has been english only
[15:44] <pteague_work> iA blah ...
[15:45] <wols> alnokta_: no use talking other languages. would be a veritable babel
[15:45] <syc0> Ubuntu users cannot watch Divx files?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !divx
[15:45] <dfgas> any winterm pros here? i am wondering do they make a xdmcp addon that i can install?
[15:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:45] <syc0> :-O
[15:45] <wols> dfgas: ask winterm support (whatever that is=
[15:45] <Pici> dfgas: Is that a linux program?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: that bot is so very helpful
[15:46] <jpg> wols, with what command you can manually remove files in linux, sorry i'm a newbie...:|
[15:46] <syc0> Nice
[15:46] <wols> jpg: rm
[15:46] <alnokta_> Jack_Sparrow, then it was never decided..hence no need to restrict languages here. its ubuntu with no prefix, humanity to others for god's sake.
[15:46] <RoAkSoAx> jpg, rm filename
[15:46] <wols> alnokta_: irc is not a democracy...
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: that is Offtopic.. and we have a channel for that too
[15:47] <alnokta_> wols, then don't tell people to shutup and speak a certain language.
[15:47] <Pici> alnokta_: We can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[15:47] <RoAkSoAx> jpg, rm -rf foldername    -- (If that folder has files and folders)
[15:47] <wols> alnokta_: I will always cause it's channel policy
[15:47] <Pici> alnokta_: Where do you see that?
[15:47] <wols> Pici: I told the indonesian "english only"
[15:47] <alnokta_> Jack_Sparrow, it is not, its about the operation of the channel, i can certainly understand if you say don't speak other languages in #ubuntu-en or us
[15:48] <jpg> wols, ok, it worked. now i'll try this apt-get install again?
[15:48] <wols> jpg: sure
[15:48] <alnokta_> Pici, saw it a couple of times in the last hours.
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: what part of offtopic are you not understanding
[15:48] <RoAkSoAx> alnokta_, it is not only channel only policy, is hole ubuntu policy that should be in english, and that is why there are local communities so that they can spread the word in their own language
[15:48] <Pici> alnokta_: This is very offtopic, please lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:48] <Pici> alnokta_: i.e. not a support question.
[15:49] <Desolator> well, why does ubuntu disable root by default and require the user to use sudo?
[15:49] <Pici> !sudo | Desolator please read
[15:49] <ubotu> Desolator please read: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:49] <wols> !sudo
[15:49] <syc0> !sudo
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: FYI.. I dont see where ANYONE told you to shutup as you wrote
[15:49] <lmosher> I can't get my microphone working w/ scype. It's just a simple mic jack on my laptop - any ideas? Has anyone had and fixed this problem?
[15:49] <Pici> !offtopic | all
[15:49] <ubotu> all: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:49] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: I told the indonesian to talk english only which alnokta_ in here took offense with
[15:49] <syc0> lmosher recheck your mic settings
[15:49] <lmosher> I can't get my microphone working at all, I should say. I'm trying to use skype, but skype is not the issue, mic doesn't work with everything
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: To protect the users from themselves.. If they know enough to set the root password.. they know enough to avboid trouble
[15:50] <lmosher> syc0, Volume up, mic selected. If I hit test in sound preferences I get the error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc !
[15:50] <syc0> Hmm soundcard issue? Try using a USB Micraphne headset, purhaps the soundcard settings are bunk
[15:50] <jpg> wols, it says (in finnish) that i have to remove "mono-xsp-base mono-xsp" by using "apt-get autoremove" funktion, should i try that?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I understand that, but he said he was told to shutup.. which would be rude.. which you were not
[15:50] <syc0> !mic
[15:50] <Desolator> Every cracker trying to brute-force their way into your box will know it has an account named root and will try that first. What they don't know is what the usernames of your other users are. Since the root account password is locked, this attack becomes essentially meaningless, since there is no password to crack or guess in the first place. --> that's covering a big problem: if the hacker is in your system he knows your current password and he just ru
[15:50] <syc0> !soundcard
[15:50] <wols> jpg: export LANG=C
[15:50] <lmosher> Issue is I need to use my mic now. Everything else on the sound card works fine. I need to conf. call w/ a colleage in Germany soon... :/
[15:50] <Pici> !sound > syc0 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:51] <wols> jpg: then run the apt-get command again. it will now talk english
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <syc0> !sound > lmosher
[15:51] <dadehoog> Desolator: sorry, your comments got cut off there ...
[15:51] <Desolator> that's covering a big problem: if the hacker is in your system he knows your current password and he just runs "sudo rm -R *" and enters your password. How secure is that? 7% of all compromised GNU/Linux PCs run Ubuntu >.>
[15:51] <syc0> umd.edu is that umass dartmouth
[15:51] <wols> Desolator: no cracker ever will cause all reasonable distros have root logins disabled by default. not to mention he will know by fingerprinting what OS you run
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: That conversation needs to move to offtopic as it isnt a support question
[15:52] <jpg> wols, it says, Reading package lists... Done
[15:52] <jpg> Building dependency tree
[15:52] <jpg> Reading state information... Done
[15:52] <jpg> Correcting dependencies... Done
[15:52] <jpg> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp-base mono-xsp
[15:52] <Desolator> ok
[15:52] <dadehoog> Desolator: it's no different to someone knowing the root password ...
[15:52] <jpg> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[15:52] <Pici> !paste | jpg
[15:52] <jpg> The following extra packages will be installed:
[15:52] <wols> jpg: do not DO that
[15:52] <ubotu> jpg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp
[15:52] <Desolator> !paste > jpg
[15:52] <jpg> The following packages will be upgraded:
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp
[15:52] <jpg> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 180 not upgraded.
[15:52] <Pici> !paste > jpg (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:52] <Desolator> Pici: I sent him one already
[15:53] <Pici> Desolator: ah, missed it.
[15:53] <chraso> >wols< is it the proprietory driver causing the problem?
[15:53] <drgeb> Hi I have installed alsa-driver-1.0.15 inside a separate directory at /usr/local/alsa-1.0.15 How can my system recognize this ? Which PATH or LD_LIBPATH variables do I have to update  ?>
[15:53] <Pici> wols: Warning them in the middle doesn't help. Their buffer is busy pasting stuff so they don't have any control over what happens.
[15:53] <wols> chraso: usually yes since it can't do AIGLX and xserver-xgl is needed which has its own can of worms
[15:53] <Pici> wols: Best to just give them the !paste
[15:53] <wols> chraso: additionally your X200 might even be on the compiz blacklist
[15:53] <lmosher> syc0, After a google search it looks like gnome broke mic recording for many, many people in gutsy. Haven't seen a solution yet, so I might be SOL
[15:54] <wols> Pici: best to do what you did, just faster
[15:54] <wols> when the paste starts they can't stop it
[15:54] <Pici> wols: indeed
[15:54] <chraso> >wols< no its supported. actually i found on the web that must use the proprietory driver for compiz for good performance
[15:55] <wols> chraso: yes, but you must also use xserver-xgl antil ati gets their homework done
[15:55] <jpg> wols, i pasted apt-get install to this pastebin
[15:56] <chraso> so u mean to say that part in xorg.conf?
[15:56] <wols> jpg: that's nice but you didn't gave us the url for it
[15:56] <wols> chraso: no
[15:56] <wols> !xgl
[15:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:56] <ljcasey> Does anyone here use pro/engineer?
[15:56] <syc0> lmosher hrm,.. u can try by downloading a LIVE cd, and rebooting with that, and installing skype
[15:56] <wols> !anyone | ljcasey
[15:56] <ubotu> ljcasey: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:56] <syc0> if u need to do it asap, i mean, thats the only thing i can think of, or run to the library
[15:57] <jpg> wols, oh sorry. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49030/
[15:57] <lmosher> syc0, hmmm ok that might work for now, thanks for the suggestion, I heard it wasn't an issue in fiesty so I'll use my old fiesty cd. thanks.
[15:57] <wols> jpg: no need to autoremove. just try installing it
[15:57] <wols> jpg: and if any error happes pastebin the full output again
[15:58] <jpg> wols, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49031/
[15:59] <ljcasey> I use compiz, my 3d cad software (pro/engineer) will not launch in compiz, only metacity. Can someone paste me a clean script that will switch to metacity, launch pro/e then switch back to compiz? Mine dosnt seem to work properly
[16:00] <KNRO> hello, anyone knows if Build-Depends in a .dsc file means the dependencies of this package, or what packages are required in order for it to be built?
[16:00] <jrib> ljcasey: someone in #compiz-fusion may have one
[16:00] <ljcasey> jrib, thanks i'll try there
[16:01] <wols> jpg: badly written mono-xsp startup script or config script. is mono-xsp running right now?
[16:01] <jpg> wols, hope not :) where do i check it?
[16:01] <wols> KNRO: build-deps are the packages (usually -dev packages) needed to build the binary .deb from the source
[16:02] <chraso> >wols< as on compiz.org/ATI
[16:02] <wols> jpg: ps aux maybe. I stay away from mono as far as possible. has a MS _and_ Icaza stench
[16:02] <Christina18> Hi, how come that in the ESSID selector for wireless lan, a new SSID has suddenly appeared? It used to be only "dlink", but now there is one additional,  "linksys". ??
[16:02] <syc0> wow
[16:02] <syc0> ubuntu is actually fixing itself
[16:03] <wols> Christina18: someone powered up an AP in the vicinity of you
[16:03] <Pici> Christina18: Perhaps you have a new neighbor with an AP?
[16:04] <Christina18> pici: i have no idea. Can they access my comp if I have no password between the comp and the wireless router?
[16:04] <jpg> wols, accoring "ps aux" i think its running
[16:04] <wols> KNRO: do you run ubuntu or debian?
[16:04] <Christina18> pici: and how do i identify it or remove it?
[16:04] <jpg> wols, how do i shut it down, or how can i unstart it in start up?
[16:05] <wols> jpg: paste the line (one line only) which you think is the mono-xsp
[16:05] <jpg> wols, www-data  5392  0.0  0.7  21016  8172 ?        Sl   17:28   0:00 /usr/bin/mono /
[16:05] <Pici> Christina18: You dont. And they can't access your computer.  Its just like putting a radio into scan mode and having it pick up different stations.  A new station just came on the air and you can listen to it (or connect to it).  They cannot connect to you.
[16:05] <wols> jpg: /etc/init.d/<mono-xsp or such> stop
[16:06] <wols> if that doesn't work: killall /usr/bin/mono
[16:06] <sunogbaga> Christina18, you do not need to remove it(i think).. it's just there to give you another option
[16:06] <Pici> Christina18: And it being listed there does not mean that you are connected to it, its just a choice.
[16:06] <wols> Christina18: do you use any encrption on your AP? WPA maybe?
[16:07] <Christina18> Pici: ok, so nothing to worry or care about in other words ?
[16:08] <Pici> Christina18: Well.. if you have no password to the router, then there is a certain amount of risk you are.. well.. risking.  But thats a different issue.
[16:08] <Christina18> Pici: okay, thanks.
[16:08] <wols> Christina18: do you use any form of encryption? if so which one?
[16:09] <Guest16155> hello, i have apache server with script that helping students with mathematical calculation and i would like to know how much users can use my server at the same time ? does there is some software for users simulation?
[16:09] <jpg> wols, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49035/
[16:09] <jpg> ps aux
[16:09] <jpg> sorry :(
[16:09] <malin> wols, that's my dhclient eth0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49036/
[16:10] <wols> jpg: so it's stopped
[16:10] <Christina18> wols: not sure, because "Enable roaming mode" is checked, which means the other settings are grayed out/inactive. What's a terminal command to make sure?
[16:10] <eddy_> Help!  Everytime I go away my monitor blanks & then my comp freezes.  I tried turning this off in screensavers & power settings but it never stops!
[16:10] <jpg> wols, with killall yes
[16:10] <SpookyET> Is anyone using Firefox 3 Beta 2? Does it crash if you view a page with embedded Totem? For me, it crashes.
[16:11] <jpg> wols, do i now start again this apt-get install?
[16:11] <sunogbaga> Guest16155 .. youre the one setting up the maximum connections for apache
[16:11] <wols> Christina18: iwconfig I guess
[16:11] <wols> jpg: you can try. and hope for the best
[16:12] <Christina18> wols: no mention of encryption there
[16:12] <sunogbaga> Christina18 i think its a router option
[16:13] <Guest16155> sunogbaga: i didnt understand
[16:13] <wols> yes, you can see in your router too
[16:13] <KNRO> wols: building for Ubuntu, it's Depends, just found out
[16:13] <wols> Christina18: thing is, if there is no encryption, everyone with a wlan card can use your AP and surf under your internet IP. if they do something criminal, the police will first knock on your door
[16:14] <soroush> hi, i installed some backport packages on my ubuntu-ume and its  network doesn't work anymore
[16:14] <soroush> how can i uninstall them
[16:14] <soroush> using apt-get --remove it says
[16:14] <sunogbaga> Guest16155.. i mean.. youre the apache administrator... you were the one who set up the maximum number of clients apache will handle at the same time
[16:14] <wols> soroush: pastebin
[16:14] <Christina18> wols: ok, I will try enable WEP or WPA
[16:14] <Barry1> is wvdial part of the ubuntu 7.10 server distrib?
[16:14] <soroush> they are in use and can't be logged
[16:15] <rcomalta___> i have server version ubuto how can i do it with gui
[16:15] <wols> Christina18: no wep if you can help it. WEP is crackable very easily
[16:15] <soroush> wols, * locked
[16:15] <rcomalta___> can some help me
[16:15] <jpg> wols, thanks now i autoremoved this mono-xsp totally and it worked and now this synaptic upgrade systems seems to work. Should I now, before I update anything remove this mono-stuff?
[16:15] <sunogbaga> Guest16155.. take a look at httpd.conf.. its maxclients or something similar
[16:15] <neverblue> Christina18, use WPA instead or WEP
[16:15] <soroush> i'm in ubuntu-generic now
[16:15] <wols> jpg: no. upgrade should work fine
[16:15] <Pici> rcomalta___: Whats the question?
[16:15] <dmacnutt> http://www.howtoforge.com/snapshot-backups-with-timevault-ubuntu-7.10
[16:15] <malin> wols, any idea on the problem?
[16:16] <rcomalta___> pici i have server ubutu there is any one to make it with descotop
[16:16] <Pici> dmacnutt: hm?
[16:16] <wols> soroush: what is locked exactly? and what are you trying to install or upgrade? which package
[16:16] <jpg> wols, ok. Thanks! :D
[16:16] <Pici> rcomalta___: Sure. `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`
[16:16] <dmacnutt> Pici: wrong channel sorry
[16:16] <wols> malin: seems you get a IP? 10.1.1.x?
[16:16] <linux4me> i just created a new partition using gparted but only root had access, how can i change the permissions on this partition?
[16:16] <cappiz> someone knows how i can get into my desktop with VNC? im all remote
[16:16] <syc0> hey guys and girls
[16:16] <syc0> i just want to say thanks again
[16:16] <syc0> for all the help
[16:16] <malin> wols, yup
[16:16] <Bilder> hi
[16:17] <Bilder> jo
[16:17] <Bilder> ojk]
[16:17] <Bilder> kopikbnj
[16:17] <wols> malin: so you have a IP, what's the problem?
[16:17] <Pici> Bilder: stop
[16:17] <syc0> and next time i talk, ill keep it on a single line,. btw i successfully upgraded dapper to gutsy
[16:17] <wols> linux4me: what filesystem on the new partition?
[16:17] <Lacrymology> is there an easy way of getting my machine specifications?
[16:17] <malin> wols, the internet connection is not working, not responding to ping, not loading any pages, i have nothing
[16:17] <Lacrymology> like, processor, RAM, OS, etc
[16:18] <linux4me> wols - ext2, mount options rw nosuid nodev (from disk properties)
[16:18] <wols> malin: output or /sbin/ifconfig  route and cat /etc/resolv.conf please. in a pastebin. when you have the 10.1.1.x IP assigned
[16:18] <Slart> Lacrymology: look in synaptic for system info .. there are a few choices.. lshw is one.. can't remember the names of the others
[16:18] <wols> linux4me: mountpoint permissions?
[16:18] <rcomalta___> how can i go to root
[16:18] <jpg> exit
[16:18] <reverseblade> wow Skype Video works on ubuntu
[16:18] <Pici> rcomalta___: use sudo
[16:18] <Pici> !sudo | rcomalta___
[16:18] <ubotu> rcomalta___: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:19] <sunogbaga> !su | rcomalta___
[16:19] <Barry1> network | barry
[16:19] <Barry1> !nework | Barry1
[16:19] <linux4me> wols - under the drive and volumes tab, mount point,file system, and mount options are all blank
[16:19] <cocox> Hi there, im doing some programmin on C, and i want to man a function call memset.... and when i do a $man memset i got No manual entry for memset... where could i get this man pages?????
[16:19] <Lacrymology> Slart: just tried lshw. is nice, but WAY to verbose
[16:19] <Barry1> !network
[16:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:19] <Barry1> !pppd
[16:19] <Pici> cocox: install the manpages-dev package.
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pppd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <magnetron> !msgthebot > Barry1
[16:19] <Pici> !msgthebot | Barry1
[16:19] <ubotu> Barry1: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:20] <wols> linux4me: use "ls" to check the permissins. not the gui rubbish
[16:20] <Barry1> ah sorry thanks
[16:20] <corruptionoflulz> ok, so how do i get the cool zoom out cube view in compiz?
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[16:20] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[16:20] <wols> Lacrymology: lspci, dmidecode, etc
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm > corruptionoflulz
[16:21] <cocox> Pici, allright thank you!
[16:21] <barongas> I have a problem with geting my vfat partition writeable by normal users, looks like this: /dev/hda3 /mnt/stuffs vfat auto,user,rw,exec 0 . Any ideas what's wrong?
[16:21] <corruptionoflulz> Jack_Sparrow: i'm in the ccsm, i just need to know which plugin/hotkey, since i can't seem to find it
[16:21] <wols> barongas: no umask set
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> corruptionoflulz: I dont use effects, just thought you were fishing for the link
[16:21] <sorous1> wols, sorry my connection is so bad so i regullarly get disconnected my command was sudo apt-get remove ./linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-ume_2.6.22-14.11_i386.deb
[16:22] <barongas> Oh yeah, the umask... I remember something along them lines.. Will check up. THanks
[16:22] <chraso> hey node. someone please tell me the feisty's kernel ver.
[16:22] <sorous1> wols, please tell me if i have missed your message since last session
[16:22] <sorous1> wols, really sorry
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> chraso: uname -a
[16:22] <wols> sorous1: kinda strange. can you paste the full apt-get output?
[16:23] <wols> sorous1: why do you want to remove the modules?
[16:23] <ianq> good morning! can anyone help me get my mysql server to work again under 7.04? it just won't start
[16:24] <sorous1> wols, my network drivers have been hurt since installing them
[16:24] <sorous1> wols: http://rafb.net/p/ZlBGGa51.html
[16:24] <sunogbaga> ianq log message?
[16:24] <sorous1> wols, i installed that pack to install my sound card driver
[16:25] <ianq> sunogbaga: let me check
[16:25] <wols> sorous1: wrong command.
[16:25] <sorous1> wols, i have no audio :(
[16:25] <wols> sudo apt-get remove <package name>. not the package's filename
[16:25] <sorous1> wols, thanks. i'll test it now
[16:25] <wols> sorous1: dpkg -l |grep linux-backports-modules
[16:25] <wols> that's the packagename
[16:25] <spideyman> ok i give up can someone tell me a brand of webcam that works with ubuntu
[16:25] <lesshaste_> is there a graphical applet to show you your current wireless connection speed?
[16:25] <ianq> sunogbaga: mysql log or another file?
[16:26] <malin> wols, search and nameservers are identical as in the resolv.conf in the suse distro i'm using at the moment, i think it's configured correclty
[16:26] <malin> do you want it pasted anyway?
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[16:26] <chraso> as because lack of modem driver
[16:26] <sunogbaga> ianq not sure.. but you can give which might help trace the problem
[16:26] <Barry1> when I'm creating a ppp config file in /etc/ppp/peers/provider the first line a tutorial is telling me to us is user "user", do I put my username between the quotes?
[16:26] <Barry1> or can I just leave it as user
[16:27] <ianq> sunogbaga: mysql.err and mysql.log are both empty
[16:27] <sunogbaga> ianq syslog
[16:27] <malin> wols, i also tried to ping ip address, not domain name, there was no answer as well
[16:27] <ianq> sunogbaga: one moment
[16:28] <wols> malin: I asked you for something. eithre you can give me that or you can ask someone else for help
[16:28] <malin> wols, sure
[16:28] <puff> Morning.
[16:28] <wols> malin: so I'm waiting for the paste url
[16:28] <ianq> sunogbaga: http://pastebin.com/m1309bcf6
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I hate that too.. you try to help someone , ask them for information and they ignore what you ask and keep going
[16:29] <malin>  /sbin/iconfig route, correct?
[16:29] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: what bothres me the most is they totally ignore what you asked for and give you what they think is best
[16:29] <Barry1> man pppd just says for the user option - user name sets the name used for authenticating the local system to the peer to name
[16:29] <wols> malin: output of resolv.conf too. possibly dmesg |grep eth
[16:29] <Barry1> does that mean its what I'll look like to the system I'm trying to connect?
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: Or they try to hide the obvious ..where they ran automatix or envy...  etc
[16:30] <sorous1> wols, thanks alot it worked. i should reboot to test my ume kernell
[16:30] <wols> Barry1: put it in doublequotes
[16:31] <wols> Barry1: it's the username you have with the ppp ISP
[16:31] <malin> Jack_Sparrow, wols, it's not that i ignore what you say. It''s just that i have to restart the computer, launch ubuntu from liveCD, do the commands, write the effects on a piece of paper, reboot again, launch suste and paste the text to a pastebin
[16:31] <malin> it takes a while
[16:31] <Barry1> its a 3g usb modem with a sim card in it I'm pretty sure i don't have a log in
[16:31] <ianq> sunogbaga: did you get my message?
[16:31] <bubuntu> hello, anybody knows about huge size font in gnome login? I can't find out it!
[16:31] <Barry1> thanks for the reply wols was starting to doubt i had the volume up on this side :)
[16:31] <wols> malin: you don't. we have something caleld "files" where to put the stuff
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> malin: NOt talking about you, but some users in general
[16:32] <wols> files you can later paste to the pastehin
[16:32] <cyzie> hi, i have a source code and i would like to package them in .deb. i have search through the google but doesn't return a link that is convincing how to do from packaging for sourcecode in chroot env, can someone share a link did just that? thank you.
[16:32] <wers> I'm trying to make gnome as light as it can. I killed tracker, removed deskbar, removed desktop icons, and used a light theme. what more can you suggest?
[16:32] <wols> cyzie: you write a /debian/ directory with various config files or you use checkinstall or such
[16:33] <malin> ok, nevermind, brb
[16:33] <pike_> wers: pkill gnome-session
[16:33] <wols> wers: don't use gnome :)
[16:33] <piotruntu> how come everytime i boot into ubuntu, i always have to configure the monitor because the screen always gets shifted down and i have to auto configure my monitor
[16:33] <wers> I want a light gnome (not any other DE)
[16:33] <cyzie> wols but /debian/ isnt mock chroot ?
[16:33] <wols> cyzie: huh?
[16:33] <Slart> piotruntu: your monitor is broken?.. does it stay the same with other os's?
[16:34] <pike_> wers: gnome has improved but its just a hungry de
[16:34] <sunogbaga> ianq you recently changed your config?
[16:34] <cyzie> wols, nvm, do you have the link? i can read myself.
[16:34] <wers> yep. my objective is to make it as light as I can
[16:34] <ianq> sunogbaga: no, but the computer crashed last night and I had to reboot it by hand
[16:34] <wols> cyzie: debian has a new maintainers website. dunno about ubuntu
[16:34] <Slart> piotruntu: I thought that stuff was saved in some small piece of memory in the monitor itself.. I might be wrong though
[16:34] <eddy_> Help!  Everytime I go AFK my computer freezes - first the monitor blanks - and I can't turn this off.  I tried to stop it in screensaver settings & power settings but it never stops blanking my screen then freezing!
[16:34] <rrittenhouse> Has anybody here tried setting up ejabberd in Gutsy? It seems to be crashing when I try and start it.
[16:34] <wers> any suggestions? (other than using another DE)
[16:34] <piotruntu> slart: its not broken, i have dual boot with vista and the same thing happens as well and i want to figure out how to fix it so i dont have to always press the auto config button on the monitor
[16:35] <cyzie> wols, link please
[16:35] <Abhi> Its U-Buntu?
[16:35] <Abhi> Please pronounce ubuntu
[16:35] <sunogbaga> ianq honestly, i havent encountrd this issue yet.. lemme help you search google.. or you can ask from #mysql
[16:35] <LancerDragoon> Abhi: Oo-buntu.
[16:35] <cappiz> someone knows how i can get into my desktop with VNC? im all remote
[16:35] <Abhi> i have been thinking for ages
[16:36] <Abhi> Aye
[16:36] <Slart> piotruntu: ok.. I still think it's your monitor that's the blame here.. but you can control certain monitor-things, like brightness and stuff, from ubuntu.. perhaps you can make it autoconfig when you log in or something
[16:36] <ianq> sunogbaga: thanks a lot
[16:36] <pike_> wers: what part of gnome do you like or want to keep?
[16:36] <ljcasey> Abhi, you need to get out more.
[16:36] <bubuntu> hello, anybody knows about huge size font in gnome login? I can't find out it!
[16:36] <pike_> wers: what i mean is it is basically just a collection of stuff so you could run if you wanted even blackbox and gnome-panel
[16:36] <wers> I want it to be as complete as xfce, pike_ (but I want to use gnome because it's more solid)
[16:37] <ianq> sunogbaga: i just found something in the forums. someone suggested using "/usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant &" and that seems to work
[16:37] <ip00n> i have to backup windows documents using a ubuntu liveCD. how do i make ubuntu able to write onto my external HD, which is ntfs formatted?
[16:37] <Dark> good morning all
[16:37] <wols> !ntfs-3g
[16:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:38] <ip00n> :)
[16:38] <sunogbaga> ianq good then.
[16:38] <Dark> i have been baning my head against a wall all night...can someone help me with my networking issue...please
[16:38] <wols> ip00n: but it skips you grant table where your permissions are stored. doesn't seem to be a longtime solution for any mysql problem
[16:38] <pike_> wers: so its basically just a collection of libs and stuff. you could run xfce4 but use gnome panel instead with the right theme it would look fine and youd have all your apps and stuff just like gnome. id also consider not using gdm but maybe just startx or xinit to launch it
[16:38] <wols> !ask | Dark
[16:38] <ubotu> Dark: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:38] <pike_> wers: instead of xfcepanel
[16:39] <Dark> wols  i just installed 7.10 on another computer here at the house--internet works great with the live CD, but once I installed it...no network connection
[16:39] <wols> Dark: what network chip?
[16:39] <reverseblade> eddy_, press <ALT> <PRINTSCREEN> then while pusshing those type REISUB
[16:39] <reverseblade> it will boot your computer if it freezes
[16:40] <Dark> wols my router has assigned an IP address, but my computer will not accept it...it seems
[16:40] <wers> pike_, the issue here is that I want the integration between gnome's apps
[16:40] <wers> what's the best way for me to achieve that, guys? :)
[16:40] <eddy_> reverseblade thanks ill try
[16:40] <Dark> i am using the NIC off of my ASUS mobo A8n
[16:40] <wols> Dark: that doesn't tell me anything. what chip or driver?
[16:40] <wers> hmm.. startx or xinit huh?
[16:40] <wers> imma research on that
[16:40] <ikonia> wols: nforce4
[16:40] <Dark> wols sorry..one sec
[16:41] <ikonia> ooh no thats the a8v
[16:41] <wols> Dark: so what driver does it use for you?
[16:41] <ikonia> no no, a8n = nforce 4
[16:41] <Dark> it is a Marvel Technology Group 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[16:41] <ikonia> ok, av8 = nforce 4
[16:41] <ikonia> a8v
[16:41] <Dark> wols and how do i tell what driver it is using
[16:41] <cherva> i have problems compiling even a hello world app in c++ here is the source code and the output of gcc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49039/ please help
[16:42] <wols> Dark: run sudo ifconfig -a
[16:42] <wols> Dark: pastebin the result
[16:42] <ikonia> cherva: this is not a c++ class room
[16:42] <ikonia> cherva: this is for ubuntu issues
[16:42] <wols> !b-e | cherva
[16:42] <ubotu> cherva: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:43] <cherva> ikonia its an ubuntu issue because my c++ is ok
[16:43] <ikonia> cherva: no it's not
[16:43] <Dark> wols i cant paste in the result, as it is on another machine...but it gives me both of my interfaces (eth0, eth1, and my loopback)
[16:43] <sunogbaga> cherva std::cout
[16:43] <wols> cherva: no it's not an ubuntu issue. the issue is you don't know C++ which means it's OT here
[16:43] <ikonia> sunogbaga: thank you, but I wasn't going to tell him
[16:43] <alvint> Qmail is now in the public domain!  what are the odds (and what is the timetable) for packaging in ubuntu?
[16:43] <Dark> wols the lo has a ip address of 127.0.0.1, and the other two dont have an IP address
[16:43] <ikonia> alvint: qmail has been around for 10 years
[16:43] <ikonia> alvint: there is also an update called netqmail
[16:43] <Pici> cherva: try ##C++
[16:44] <wols> Dark: do waht I asked you
[16:44] <sunogbaga> ikonia ..sorry.. :P
[16:44] <ikonia> sunogbaga: no problem, help one, you have to help all C++
[16:44] <wols> sunogbaga: you were wrong btw :P
[16:44] <ikonia> wols: nah, looks ok
[16:44] <ikonia> he looks right
[16:44] <linux4me> wols - the gui say the partition is /dev/sda3. it is on mount point /media/disk. in terminal ls -hal shows root as the owner
[16:44] <Dark> wols i am unable to paste in the resluts
[16:44] <cherva> sunogbaga: still the same :(
[16:44] <wols> sunogbaga: he namespace std;
[16:44] <alvint> ikonia: but before it's license prevented it from being distributed with linux distros.
[16:44] <ikonia> anyway, it's OT
[16:45] <sunogbaga> wols oh yeah! lemme check
[16:45] <ikonia> alvint: yup
[16:45] <Dark> wols its on a different machine
[16:45] <wols> linux4me: unmount, change the mountpoint to be 777 and remount
[16:45] <wols> Dark: then you are SOL
[16:46] <Barry1> ok disconnecting to try and get my 3g usb modem working in linux wish me luck!
[16:46] <Dark> wols SOL? are you kidding?
[16:46] <pope22> in my attempts to add Composite to Gutsy and enable desktop effects, i am having troubles. I have looked in the forums, and Google, but all solutions seem to be geared to those who did a hard install, not upgraders such as myself
[16:46] <starlight__> what difference of ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu?
[16:46] <wols> Dark: either you do what I asked you or you can ask someone else for help but not me. have a nice day
[16:46] <pope22> the window manager, starlight
[16:46] <alvint> ikonia: so now I'd like an official ubuntu (or debian) package.  I haven't  been this excited since java implemented generics!
[16:46] <pope22> er...desktop enviroment rather
[16:46] <Pici> starlight__: Desktop Environment and/or default installed packages.
[16:47] <dgjones> starlight__, ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE as their desktop environments
[16:47] <ikonia> alvint: I've got one for fesity that I'm re-packaging for hardy (probably submited post hardy) but there are problems with uspci distribution rules too
[16:47] <Pici> pope22: What kind of problems are you having?
[16:47] <wols> pope22: what videocard?
[16:47] <Dark> wols how can i paste in the output of the "sudo ifconfig -a" command when the computer we are talking about is unable to reach the network
[16:47] <sunogbaga> cherva you shouldve used g++ instead
[16:47] <ikonia> Dark: output to a file, but it on a usb stick and move it
[16:48] <wols> Dark: you have a harddisk where you can store files. or usb sticks or even floppies
[16:48] <Dark> wols sorry...i dont have a usb stick with me at the moment
[16:48] <alvint> ikonia: does it need to use uspci? can't it listen directly?
[16:48] <wols> you also said it works in liveCD I think
[16:48] <ljcasey> Dark, SOL :)
[16:48] <Dark> wols dont own a floppy drive
[16:48] <ikonia> alvint: it needs uspci and daemon tools
[16:48] <pope22> ATI ( i know, it's the devil)  and in my search for how to install composite (for that's what I am told I am missing when i try to enable Desktop Effects) I can't seem to figure out what to apt-get in order to install it
[16:48] <Bassetts> My touchpad is being very erratic since updating the kernel and the mouse is skipping everywhere, the side scroll also stops working after it freezes for a few seconds
[16:48] <Dark> ljcasey this is in no way funny or fun
[16:48] <wols> Dark: I we are supposed to help you we need more information. if you cannot provide the information then you are SOL. easy as that.
[16:48] <Pici> pope22: What video card do you have?
[16:49] <Pici> pope22: Exact model pelase.
[16:49] <alvint> ikonia: oh
[16:49] <wols> pope22: what driver?
[16:49] <Pici> s/pelase/please
[16:49] <alvint> ikonia: still, it would be nice
[16:49] <pope22> 200m, i'm using flgx for the driver
[16:49] <ikonia> alvint: I have it all packaged and working on fesity, and I aimed to submit to hardy, but it will probably be sumbitted for the release after hardy
[16:49] <ljcasey> Dark, maybe copy it manually into a file?
[16:49] <profanephobia> pope22, sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[16:49] <pope22> ....xgl crashed ubuntu when i was running Feisty, is that better now?
[16:50] <wols> Dark: sudo ifconfig -a > ifconfig.out
[16:50] <alvint> ikonia: will the fiesty package work on gutsy/hardy?
[16:50] <profanephobia> pope22, then restart.. did you use the restricted drivers manger
[16:50] <rakyr> my BIOS detects my optical drive, but ubuntu doesn't
[16:50] <Pici> pope22: You have to use xgl with the fglrx drivers, if you used the restricted drivers manager.
[16:50] <wax> hi
[16:50] <pope22> yes i did, i have my vidcard enabled
[16:50] <wols> alvint: usually it does. depends a bit if the maintainer fscked up or not :)
[16:50] <ikonia> alvint: Hmmm not solid no, the gcc version differences between hardy/fesity and glibc changes makes it a little flakey
[16:50] <wo0f> kitche: the loading screen bug
[16:50] <sunogbaga> !ask | wax
[16:50] <profanephobia> pope22, try install xgl then reboot.. it really should work
[16:50] <ubotu> wax: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:51] <ikonia> alvint: I have it working on hardy, but I've not finished the re-packaging hence the delay in submision, I will have it ready post hardy and hopefully submitted for inclusion in hardy+1
[16:51] <wo0f> kitche, where the x server has not start yet
[16:51] <wo0f> kitche: you know, the loading bar bit
[16:51] <rakyr> my optical drive makes weird sounds, like it has a high-pitched sound when reading media, but ubuntu doesn't see the drive...do i have to manually mount the drive?  it doesn't even appear as an icon!
[16:51] <pope22> installing xgl now, i'll come back after the reboot ^_^ I hope it works, thnx in advance either way
[16:51] <profanephobia> pope22, actually you just just restart x instead of reboot ctrl+alt+backspace
[16:51] <wols> rakyr: you could check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[16:51] <rakyr> thanks
[16:51] <pope22> i'll reboot, i just updated a few other things, so i need it
[16:52] <Dark> wols found a usb drive...one sec
[16:52] <wols> pope22: did you upgrade your kernel?
[16:52] <alvint> ikonia: thanks, that's great! will it have the smtp auth/ssl stuff?
[16:52] <ikonia> alvint: yes
[16:52] <profanephobia> pope22, i have the same card btw... its working for me in gutsy but you know how that goes :)
[16:52] <bells> #ubuntu-gr
[16:52] <ikonia> alvint: I've also done vpopmail, vqadmin and qmailadmin
[16:52] <pope22> o.k. i'll be back
[16:52] <alvint> can I get the fiesty package from somewhere?
[16:53] <ikonia> alvint: I can put my fesity repo back online tonight if you want
[16:53] <rakyr> i have my optical drive on the same ide cable as the hdd...is that gonna cause a problem?
[16:53] <wols> alvint: yes, from feisty :P
[16:53] <wols> rakyr: not a problem but bad
[16:54] <rakyr> wols: i don't have any other choice, i have a cheap motherboard
[16:54] <wols> rakyr: every mobo has at least 2 IDE channels I though?
[16:54] <wols> *thought
[16:55] <rakyr> mine only had fdd and hdd :(  should i make the optical drive a master to have dual master hdd and optical drives?
[16:55] <wols> no. one must be master, other slave
[16:55] <alvint> ikonia: cool.  is there a URL I need?
[16:55] <wols> dmesg | grep hdb
[16:55] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi
[16:55] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  new boards have multiple sata ports and only one IDE channel for optical drives
[16:55] <ikonia> alvint: http://www.mdlan.co.uk/repos/ubuntu/fesity
[16:55] <wols> rakyr: curious, what mobo model,brand isthis?
[16:55] <ikonia> alvint: it's disalbed at this exact moment
[16:55] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: they aren't cheap tho. intel demans pretty penny for mobos :P
[16:56] <david__> hi any one in room
[16:56] <starlight__> where I earn to get canonpro9000 printer driver for ubuntu?
[16:56] <linux4me> wols - how do i change the mount point for that partition?
[16:56] <alvint> that's fine; I'll check it later.  thanks!
[16:56] <wols> or rather for chipsets
[16:56] <ljcasey> !ask david__
[16:56] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  actually, almost all new boards have this configuration, cheap or not
[16:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask david__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:56] <ikonia> alvint: post 8:00 GMT
[16:56] <ReVo-Eirik> I am going to install ubuntu, but I am not confident enough to switch to it completely. How do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[16:56] <wols> linux4me: I said to change perms of the mountpoint. not hte mountpoint itself
[16:56] <abiyaman> yoohoo
[16:56] <syc0> ReVo-Eirik hey man whats up, i just installed it
[16:56] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: again, cheap intel based mobos? you are dreaming
[16:56] <rakyr> wols: http://paste.uni.cc/17849
[16:56] <syc0> i really suggest jumping 2 feet into ubuntu and not looking back
[16:56] <ReVo-Eirik> Well, how can I uninstall Ubuntu?
[16:57] <kkuhl> Hello there. I'm a new Ubuntu user. Who can help with installing flash properly?
[16:57] <syc0> !flash > kkuhl
[16:57] <ReVo-Eirik> Could someone here tell me in a private chat how to uninstall properly?
[16:57] <wols> rakyr: so it's recognized by the kernel. try to mount a disk from in there
[16:57] <ikonia> !flashissues | syc0
[16:57] <ubotu> syc0: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[16:57] <alvint> ikonia: roger that
[16:57] <profanephobia> ReVo-Eirik, you can dual boot or try it out with a live cd
[16:57] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3301602&CatId=1533
[16:57] <linux4me> wols - ok, how do I change the permissions of the mountpoint?
[16:57] <rakyr> ok, manually, thanks wols!
[16:57] <Pici> kkuhl: Please see that second message from ubotu and the channel topic.
[16:57] <ReVo-Eirik> How do I burn a live CD with the newest version?
[16:57] <Dark> wols well crap...for some reason this box won't recgonize my usb drive...i am having all kinds of issues today
[16:58] <wols> ReVo-Eirik: you can't. you simply install another OS on the ubuntu partition overwriting ubuntu. you also use fixmbr to get your original windows bootsectors back
[16:58] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  i work in retail for computer parts. new oem boards are usually set up this way and most new retail boards are set up that way
[16:58] <syc0> Roger.
[16:58] <pike_> Dark: dmesg | tail doesnt show a sd? device?
[16:58] <neverblue> ReVo-Eirik, do you just have one OS on your system ?
[16:58] <Dark> no
[16:59] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: that might be (it is so since ICH8 since that one doesn't have any IDE ports anymore) but intel bases mobos are never cheap
[16:59] <kkuhl> !flash
[16:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:59] <ikonia> !flashissues | kkuhl
[16:59] <ubotu> kkuhl: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[17:00] <goldphish> How do I build a kernel module that was not included in the standard ubuntu kernel? I already grabbed the header package. Now what?
[17:00] <wols> goldphish: you need the sources for that module. ie a krenel source
[17:00] <Ali_ix> goldphish: get the source, sompile it and load it via insmod command
[17:01] <pastor> Can someone help me set up OpenDNS on my laptop?
[17:01] <Ali_ix> pastor: what is problme?
[17:01] <kkuhl> hmm... flash is not working now?
[17:01] <goldphish> wols: once I have the source, then what?
[17:01] <wols> Ali_ix: never isnmod. modprobe
[17:01] <ikonia> kkuhl: not at this exact moment
[17:01] <Stars> how to install cannonPRO9000 printer in ubuntu?
[17:01] <Ali_ix> wols: whats is difference? why?
[17:01] <wols> goldphish: then you compile it. get the source first and tell us what module it is
[17:01] <kkuhl> ok... thanks
[17:01] <jose> hello i have problems with the net driver
[17:01] <wols> Ali_ix: no dependency resolution with insmod
[17:02] <wols> !printing | Stars
[17:02] <ubotu> Stars: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:02] <Ali_ix> wols: aha, thanks
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: the package just called linux-source ?
[17:02] <wols> goldphish: what module?
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: keyspan. It's included in a vanilla kernel
[17:02] <pastor> Ali_ix, I have an active account with all the right settings (I think), but I can still access rubbish.
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: but not the ubuntu kernel for some reason
[17:02] <xoqrps> Could anyone please assist me so I can get double screens working on my laptop?
[17:02] <neverblue> jose wireless ?
[17:02] <Stars> !printing
[17:02] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:02] <wols> apt-get source <linux kernel package>
[17:03] <linux4me> wols - my /etc/fstab has no reference to /dev/sda3 whatsoever!
[17:03] <Mersmireille> There's a guide about dual-head on the forums
[17:03] <Ali_ix> pastor check yoour dns settings with opendns test page
[17:03] <Mersmireille> I found it a few times via Google
[17:03] <pike_> !dualhead | xoqrps might help
[17:03] <ubotu> xoqrps might help: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:03] <wols> linux4me: then put it in?
[17:03] <syc0> whats wrong pastor
[17:03] <syc0> u just want a walkthrough? im sure you can find somthing to read on it.
[17:03] <Ali_ix> pastor: or simply ype: yahoo.cmo and see if it corrcts you
[17:03] <Mersmireille> There was also an Ubuntu-specific guide
[17:03] <jose> neverblue is not wireless
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Mersmireille,  what video card?
[17:03] <wols> jose: what chip/driver?
[17:03] <jose> rtl 8092 AS
[17:04] <neverblue> jose do you see it listed under 'lspci' (a command), and do you have more than one ?
[17:04] <linux4me> wols - i'm beginning to despise the gui. i mostly run ubuntu server, command line only. I am now only farting around with ubuntu desktop!
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Enableing Multi Monuitor support with nvidia cards  - is rather easy. :)
[17:04] <jose> i see in the botton
[17:04] <pastor> Ali_ix, it does correct me... what does that mean?
[17:04] <wols> Dark: there surely is another network chip on that board too. cause that marvell one seems to often have problems without an available driver... while nvidia or via chips are quite well supported
[17:04] <jose> of the list
[17:04] <sholden> so...  I've got a video playing, and it's raping XGL. Am I doing something wrong or is this to always be expected?  both of my processor cores are like 100%
[17:04] <wols> linux4me: good. guis generally suck, even if they make it easier for new people
[17:05] <rakyr> may wols be praised!  my optical drive works!
[17:05] <Ali_ix> pastor: check DNS tab in network manager, drag opendns IPis on top of other dns servers
[17:05] <boobsbr> howdy, is there a way to create a shell script to create massive number of telnet sessions to connect to a single server and keep sending messages to it to test stability?
[17:05] <wols> jose: don't you mean 8029AS?
[17:05] <Dark> wols yeah...i have another one that says its using an nvidia chipset..but that one does the exact same thing
[17:05] <boobsbr> need to check my java nio server
[17:05] <rakyr> i haven't had an optical drive in 3 months!  thanks you wols!
[17:05] <wols> boobsbr: we do not condone DDOS
[17:05] <ikonia> boobsbr: that won't check stability
[17:05] <jose> wols yes
[17:05] <Dark> wols rechecking it now just to be sure
[17:05] <wols> boobsbr: so stop
[17:05] <ikonia> boobsbr: that is a DOS attack
[17:05] <wols> Dark: lspci
[17:06] <wols> jose: ne2k-pci is the driver for that
[17:06] <linux4me> wols - thought ubuntu gui might be a bit better at doing stuff for you.  I mean in windows, it is a breeze to install a new partition and use it. it is easy to do via the command line too but I just wanted to see how far ubuntu desktop gui have come along. i see they have a ways to go yet! ;(
[17:06] <pastor> Ali_ix, both the OpenDNS DNS's are there, but I can still access rubbish.
[17:06] <boobsbr> ikonia: well, is there a way to check for stability on my server then?
[17:06] <ikonia> boobsbr: from what perspective
[17:06] <jose> wols how i install that driver
[17:07] <Stars> how to run windows application in ubuntu? (such as microsoft office)
[17:07] <Pici> !wine | Stars
[17:07] <ubotu> Stars: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:07] <wols> jose: you don't, it's already there. sudo ifconfig -a
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Stars,  good luck with MS office...
[17:07] <Ali_ix> pastor:  check in terminal to see if you have resolv.conf file ith correct data, it is in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:07] <boobsbr> well, i coded a small java.nio server with nonblocking sockets and worker threads, now i need to know how well will it respond to a lot of connections sending data to it
[17:07] <goldphish> wols: ok, got the source. How do I go about building the module?
[17:07] <antraxx> Bonjours tout le monde
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Stars,  if office is needed that badly - there is some specilized comercial wine variants that may help ya/work ebtter then the free wine.
[17:07] <Pici> !fr | antraxx
[17:07] <ikonia> boobsbr: that's not an ubuntu issue, join #java
[17:07] <ubotu> antraxx: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:07] <wols> !compile | goldphish
[17:07] <ubotu> goldphish: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:07] <stefkoo> Hello people somebody can tell me how to SET on BITCHX bad words like ( when somebody say: shit, fuck on the channel to get kicked automatic from the bitchx ) ?
[17:08] <Pici> !language | stefkoo
[17:08] <ubotu> stefkoo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <pastor> Ali_ix, forgive my ignorance, but how do i do that?
[17:08] <jose> wols, so how i solve the problems with that driver
[17:08] <stuporglu1> Valgrind / GDB question: I can connect to a running instance of a program with GDB (gdb -nw <program> <pid>), but not from within Valgrind. It asks if I want to attach to the debugger then never does regardless of my response
[17:08] <stefkoo> Pici: i'm speaking english dude.
[17:08] <antraxx> Il y a un francais?
[17:08] <Ali_ix> pastor: check this: https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu
[17:08] <Pici> stefkoo: Please re-read the message then.
[17:08] <antraxx> J'ai besoin d'aide plz
[17:08] <jan____> "Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf" <- why not? I want it to replace it.
[17:08] <wols> jose: I asked you for the output of ifconfig
[17:08] <Pici> antraxx: /j #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <profanephobia> is there like a dual monitor app for ati cards that allows for custom resolution?
[17:08] <goldphish> wols: I'm familiar with how to compile software. I'm just looking for the ubuntu way to build a kernel module
[17:08] <stefkoo> ok oksry
[17:08] <Ali_ix> pastor: press f2 and type gnome-terminal to open a terminal
[17:08] <TBotNik_u> wols: Back at my Xorg problem this morning.  The one you and soundray weighed in on Y'day.
[17:08] <boobsbr> that's why i asked for a shell script using telnet but since it is a DDOS attack i didn't know where else to ask
[17:08] <wols> antraxx: english only please. for french help #ubuntu-fr
[17:09] <stefkoo> By the way i talking by the IRC CLIENT bitchx
[17:09] <Ali_ix> pastor: then follow the guide
[17:09] <stefkoo> how i can set a bad words in there a ?
[17:09] <ronnie> eton:
[17:09] <wols> goldphish: there is no such way. the "ubuntu way" would be to make a new kernel
[17:09] <Dark> wols just ran that, and yes..the other one is nVidia chipset....i just did a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:09] <Dark> wols and no luck
[17:09] <sholden> i'm trying to watch a video on a relatively fast machine, but npviewer.bin and XGL seem to be owning my processor.  Any ideas?
[17:09] <wols> Dark: which one is the nvidia one and chich one the marvell one? is forcedeth loaded?
[17:09] <splatt> hola
[17:09] <stefkoo> !bitchx stefkoo
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx stefkoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:10] <sholden> Is this to be expected, or am i doing something crazy?
[17:10] <Pici> stefkoo: I know what BitchX is.  I was referring to the other word you used.  #bitchx will probably give you more help, most users here use irssi as their cli irc client of choice.
[17:10] <wols> !irssi | stefkoo
[17:10] <ubotu> stefkoo: Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[17:10] <goldphish> wols: hmm, I've looked at the guides for building  acustom kernel and they all say it's unnecessary for building just one module. Yet none of them say how to build just one module.
[17:10] <Dark> wols parden my noobness...but what is forcedeth?
[17:10] <wols> goldphish: kernel-package has help on how to just build a module package
[17:10] <stefkoo> Pici:  BX
[17:10] <Dark> the nvidia one is eth1, and the marvel on is eth0
[17:10] <Dr_willis> The BitchX irc client - has dozens of web sites/guides/docs   - i reccomend irssi over bitchx however.  But use what you want. :)
[17:10] <wols> Dark: the driver for the nvidia NIC
[17:10] <Dr_willis> I found the irssi docs a little better done.
[17:11] <goldphish> wols: cool, thanks
[17:11] <wols> Dr_willis: who cares? the irc client is better done :P
[17:11] <psyk0z> hii
[17:11] <Stars> wine less good to run windows application in ubuntu, there any other application?
[17:11] <Dr_willis> wols,  Which one.. :)  Ive been testing out chatzilla lately Heh..
[17:11] <wols> goldphish: make-kpkg --target
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Stars,  unless you want to emulate a whole machine.. wine or its variants is how its done.
[17:11] <Dark> wols oops..sorry...both of them seem to be from Marvell...i was looking at the wrong section of the output
[17:11] <wols> Dr_willis: irssi. there is no other irc client
[17:12] <wols> Dr_willis: pastebin your lspci then
[17:12] <Dr_willis> wols,  heh - i was using some Perl based irc client for ages.
[17:12] <wols> Dark: ^^
[17:12] <Dark> wols the weird thing is...internet works just fine with the live cd..but not when it is installed
[17:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:12] <wols> while asus does a lot of stupid things I can't believe they are THAT stupid
[17:12] <Dark> wols i don't understand that
[17:12] <jones> is there a channel for open office issues?
[17:12] <jose> wols sorry, i sent you throw a private chat the out from the ifconfig
[17:12] <wols> Dark: then check what the livecd does differently. either give us the info we need ro you can help yourself
[17:13] <splatt> how i can kill the Xs ?
[17:13] <wols> jose: a) you did not b) do never PM me unasked if you want answers c) use a pastebin
[17:13] <Pici> jones: #openoffice.org-users I believe.
[17:13] <hiddenghost> hi, any one know about blender in here?
[17:13] <Dr_willis> Dark,  you may want to check the 'lsmod' output of th elive cd. and the real install. (save both to a file) and see if any modules are getting loaded differently
[17:13] <jones> i apologize not open office but evolution.
[17:13] <pastor> Al_ix, ok, I have opened /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and changed the prepend domain-name-servers  to 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220; but I still get rubbish when I try and access it on the net. Thoughts?
[17:13] <Dark> wols thanks for trying to help...i am trying to get the info to you..i have it on a usb drive now, but this box doesnt want to see it
[17:13] <Pici> hiddenghost: Try #blender
[17:13] <wols> Dark: you said you have a livccd working. use that
[17:13] <hiddenghost> or zbuffer problems
[17:13] <Mersmireille> Dark: what network card?
[17:14] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, I have opened /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and changed the prepend domain-name-servers  to 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220; but I still get rubbish when I try and access it on the net. Thoughts?
[17:14] <Dark> Dr_willis where is the lsmod located
[17:14] <Pici> hiddenghost: Unless its an issue about installing the Ubuntu package.
[17:14] <Dr_willis> Dark,  its a command you type :)
[17:14] <Mersmireille> dark: just type lsmod in a terminal
[17:14] <Dark> ok thanks
[17:14] <Dr_willis> if the live cd is loading a module that the other is not.. try manually loading it on the installed system
[17:15] <hiddenghost> Pici: I am having trouble with my zbuffer.
[17:15] <Dark> Mersmireille its the nic off of my mobo..asus a8n
[17:15] <wols> Mersmireille: do you think he knows which of the 2 dozen modules there is his NIC module?
[17:15] <pastor> Alix_ix, I then get this "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[17:15] <pastor> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0." Thoughts?
[17:15] <jose> wols thats why i said sorry. but i didn't wanted to fill the chat with my out of the ifconfig, How i sent to you
[17:15] <Ali_ix> pastor: how do you access to internet? direc? behind firewaal/nat? try to remove your old/ISP dns servers and keep just opendns ones. if you are connected via a ppp like (dialpu eg) connection, try to reconnect.
[17:15] <wols> pastor: sudo ifconfig -a
[17:15] <wols> !paste | jose
[17:16] <ubotu> jose: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:16] <neverblue> jose, still need a hand ?
[17:16] <pastor> ok, I'll try and reconnect. BBIAF
[17:16] <Ali_ix> pastor: ;)
[17:16] <punz> Someone give me an idea here, on my laptop the wifi normally looks fine in ubuntu, however here at my friends house, connecting to this older dell truemobile wifi-b basestation I can connect but no host names will resolve
[17:17] <jose> yes i still
[17:17] <punz> it works fine in windows (which i'm booted into now)
[17:17] <wols> punz: bad DNS settings for some reason
[17:17] <neverblue> jose put your info on pastebin please
[17:17] <wols> punz: check your resolv.conf
[17:17] <Ali_ix> punz: looks like dns problem
[17:18] <jose> ok
[17:18] <JGJones> Greetings all
[17:18] <hiddenghost> Pici: I missed you saying try #blender, I will see about that.
[17:18] <JGJones> I have an issue with my Gutsy - the recent kernel headers update have basically caused my grub to be fubar'ed.
[17:18] <neverblue> jose so that would be anything anyone else asked you to post as well as your 'lspci' and 'lsmod'
[17:18] <wols> JGJones: nonsense
[17:19] <pastor> Alix_ix, When I restart the router, my DNS defaults back to my ISP's DNS. Thoughts?
[17:19] <jones> anyone know if there is a way to use Evolution to access a exchange webaccess account?
[17:19] <JGJones> wols: no - I'm not the only one, there is a thread about it on ubuntu forums.
[17:19] <JGJones> Fetching URL
[17:19] <hiddenghost> How can one adjust the 3d options for ubuntu?
[17:19] <wols> JGJones: kernel headers alone cannot do _anything_ with your grub config. end of story
[17:19] <jose> wols here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49042/
[17:19] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok! if you have any access to router CP you can define dns there
[17:20] <Ali_ix> pastor: are you using dhcp to get IP from router?
[17:20] <JGJones> OK. It boots ok. Never changed. No software/or anything else installed/removed. Get security updates, some of which are kernel headers updates.
[17:20] <JGJones> Ask to reboot.
[17:20] <JGJones> It now gives a "partition not found" error.
[17:21] <wols> jose: you already have 2 interfaces both seemingly working fine. what is the output of "ping google.com" ther?
[17:21] <komputes> does anyone know how to find out the version of a process/command?
[17:21] <pastor> Ali_ix, I think it is a static IP, not dhcp. Is there a difference?
[17:21] <wols> JGJones: the grub bootmenu shows?
[17:21] <Ali_ix> pastor: yes. if it is static ip, the dns settings shouldnt change!
[17:21] <wols> pastor: yes
[17:21] <JGJones> The same as before.
[17:21] <pidix> when i use usernodes and cck drupal dont create usernode for new users
[17:21] <pidix> why?
[17:21] <wols> JGJones: pastebin your menu.lst and your sudo fdisk -l output
[17:22] <crush_groove> hy would I be using a gig of memory when Im not running anything more intensiver than xchat ? is there a way to refresh it or clear it .. is doing either of those even necessary?
[17:22] <Ali_ix> pastor: paste the output into pastebin: 'ifconfig -a', 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:22] <Ali_ix> !paste | pastor
[17:22] <ubotu> pastor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:22] <jdecoste> hi
[17:22] <wols> crush_groove: not necessary. you do not use 1GB. most of the RAM is used as diskcache automatically. there never is free memory since it would be wasted memory
[17:22] <jose> wols give me troubles sometimes i used yesterday and worked for like 20 seconds, and later doesn't work, then later i connect other network the one that im using now
[17:22] <wols> !doesn't work
[17:22] <jdecoste> anyone here played around with xephyr ?
[17:22] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:23] <crush_groove> wols .. this is a *nix thing ?
[17:23] <wols> crush_groove: no it's a modern OS design thing. ALL OSes work this way
[17:23] <neverblue> jose, so you have 2 devices?
[17:23] <neverblue> u didnt mention that before :)
[17:23] <crush_groove>  tyvm wols..
[17:24] <JGJones> wols: fyi - it have happened to a few others here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644687
[17:24] <JGJones> will do pastebin now
[17:24] <neverblue> jose, what happens when you ping google.com ?
[17:25] <kazol> Is it possible to switch to KDE without messing up anything important?
[17:25] <wols> JGJones: also paste the output of "ls -l /boot"
[17:25] <jose> neverblue just appear in white like freeze
[17:25] <neverblue> jose, copy it into pastebin, for us to look at
[17:26] <Ali_ix> kazol: kde wont hurt you :) you can install it beside gnome or other window managers
[17:26] <neverblue> jose, what type of router are you using ?
[17:26] <emo_ninja> does anyone know of a repo for apache 1.3 on gutsy?
[17:26] <jose> the router is speedstream 5600
[17:27] <Ali_ix> pastor: what is up?
[17:28] <pastor> Ali_ix, how do i visit my D-Link 604 router ?
[17:28] <wols> jose: the fact that the 8029 NIC got an IP is proof that it can connect to the router
[17:28] <neverblue> jose, waiting on your pastebin from you ping command....
[17:28] <wols> jose: unless you should us a paste when something actually failing, no one will be able to help you
[17:28] <Ali_ix> pastor: it might have a web-based control panel, just try the ipaddress in addressbar of browser
[17:28] <neverblue> wols keep positive ;)
[17:28] <kazol> Ali_ix: What about metacity?
[17:28] <wols> neverblue: it will simply use the other NIC now that he uses now to connect to freenode
[17:29] <wols> neverblue: which means it won't prove anything
[17:29] <pastor> Ali_ix, it says, "Unable to Connect."
[17:29] <neverblue> wols, he is connecting here on that same box, I didnt get that far into the convo....
[17:29] <wols> pastor: what is your local IP?
[17:29] <Dark> wols well, i did a diff on the ouput of the installed lsmod vs the live cd, and there is no difference
[17:30] <wols> neverblue: but you saw he has two nics with IPs assigned. so a ping would be futile
[17:30] <pastor> wols, (http://192.168.0.1)
[17:30] <wols> pastor: that is NOT your local IP
[17:30] <jose> wols yesterday i connected to internet for like 10 seconds 2 times, and then never more
[17:30] <jose> it started with collisions
[17:30] <wols> jose: either show me he pastbin of the error or don't talk to me again please
[17:30] <Ali_ix> kazol: i think kde uses some think other than metacity. whatever! it will not hurt any thing by default :)
[17:30] <flibberdy> I'm using xubuntu, is there a graphical way of setting up samba shares?
[17:30] <pastor> wols, hmmm, what might it look like then?
[17:31] <wols> Ali_ix: it uses kwm
[17:31] <kitche> flibberdy: swat it's web admin tool
[17:31] <Ali_ix> wols: thanks
[17:31] <wols> pastor: whatever your ifconfig tells you
[17:31] <Skif> When I plug in my headphones on my laptop, the main speakers don't turn off.  The Volume Control app doesn't appear to have any levels for the headphones, and there doesn't seem to be any button I can click to disable front speakers without disabling the headphones as well.
[17:31] <Skif> I had this working at one point, but I can't remember what I did now.
[17:31] <flibberdy> thanks kitche
[17:31] <JGJones> wols: menu.lst - http://pastebin.com/d45447d68
[17:31] <JGJones> fdisk and /boot - http://pastebin.com/d574a519b
[17:31] <pastor> wols, where can I find that?
[17:31] <Skif> Any suggestions?
[17:31] <Ali_ix> pastor: please paste these command outputs: 'ifconfig -a' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:31] <jose> wols i get the errors yesterday so i don't know how to check them again
[17:31] <Ali_ix> !paste > pastor
[17:32] <thor> Skif my suse install on my toshiba does the same thing. If you have or find a solution I would sure like to know what it is
[17:32] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, hang on...
[17:32] <goldphish> wols: I'm still trying to figure out how to build this module. I tried to run `sudo make-kpkg --added-modules keyspan modules_image` but I get an error saying 'The UTS Release version does not match the current version'
[17:32] <JGJones> wols: by the way in menu.lst it mentions the UUID of my HDD for Ubuntu, I have confirmed it to be the same.
[17:32] <Skif> thor: sure... I'm just annoyed because this was working at one point.
[17:32] <pastor> Ali_ix, ifconfig: option `-a and cat' not recognised.
[17:32] <pastor> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[17:33] <neverblue> jose, are you using this same system to talk on IRC right now ?
[17:33] <crush_groove> skif mine used to do that but it was a cable prob with the headphones .. or  maybe the jack .. if I wiggled it in the connection the speakers would mute
[17:33] <thor> Skif did you upgrade last night?
[17:33] <Skif> crush: unfortunately, I've got a very solid headphone connection. :(
[17:33] <jose> yes
[17:33] <Skif> thor: not last night
[17:33] <wols> JGJones: something recreated your initrd yesterday
[17:33] <crush_groove>  skif .. yea I figured I lucked up
[17:33] <Ali_ix> pastor: just type commands without quotes: ifconfig -a
[17:33] <neverblue> jose, so its online....
[17:34] <wols> JGJones: and you also installed a new kernel made on 18th
[17:34] <Freakingme> According to uname, the kernel version installed is: Linux dolf 2.6.22-14-generic. Apt-get upgrade want to install the packages  linux-headers-2.6.22-14 linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic. Any logics about that?
[17:34] <neverblue> jose, what seems to be the problem then ?
[17:34] <thor> Skif I have noticed a lot of problems today and a lot of them said they had done an automatic upgrade last night
[17:34] <jose> neverblue yes im online but if i disconect one card then doesnt work
[17:34] <CoasterMaster> What's the easiest way to write a 'batch' file in Linux?  I just need to run 6 commands.
[17:34] <Ali_ix> pastor: oh, sorry, type a 'sudo' first: sudo ifconfig -a
[17:34] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, done. Now?
[17:34] <emo_ninja> CoasterMaster just write a bash script
[17:34] <Christina18__> Hi again, I just added WPA2 and password on the wireless router. What is the reason that I can not ping any website, but they work in FireFox ?
[17:34] <Ali_ix> paste teh out put into paste bin
[17:34] <Ali_ix> !paste | pastor
[17:34] <jose> neverblue it just worked yesterday for 10 seconds
[17:34] <ubotu> pastor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:34] <Ali_ix> pastor: and give us teh link
[17:34] <CoasterMaster> emo_ninja, do I just put the commands on separate lines and CHMOD +x it?
[17:34] <emo_ninja> anyone know of an apache1.3 repo that's available in gutsy
[17:34] <neverblue> jose, 'it' ?
[17:35] <JGJones> wols: the new kernal that was installed was only what popped up in Ubuntu update, which I then installed.
[17:35] <wols> JGJones: root            (hd0,2)  is utterly wrong for a sda6 linux partition. make it (hd0,5)
[17:35] <emo_ninja> CoasterMaster yes, that would be fine with a #!/usr/bin/bash at the top
[17:35] <jose> neverblue it means the rtl 8029 AS card
[17:35] <Ali_ix> emo_ninja: ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:35] <Ali_ix> emo_ninja: they may know :)
[17:35] <CoasterMaster> emo_ninja, excellent, thanks!
[17:35] <krolow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49045/
[17:35] <emo_ninja> thanks Ali_ix :)
[17:35] <neverblue> jose, your online right now, and not using that card ?
[17:35] <JGJones> wols: did that (in grub, pressed e to edit and changed it to (hd0,5) - doesn't work either.
[17:35] <pastor> Ali_ix, pastor@pastor-laptop:~$ !paste | pastor bash: !paste: event not found
[17:35] <JGJones> Disk don't exist.
[17:35] <jose> neverblue i have two cards on the computer, one works fine the other doesnt
[17:35] <krolow> i install kde4 but this corrumped my apt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49045/
[17:36] <neverblue> jose, then maybe one is broken, why are you using two cards?
[17:36] <wols> JGJones: what doesn't exist?
[17:36] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I used GParted
[17:36] <Ali_ix> pastor: :} just copy the output of ifconfig command and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste into text box there :)
[17:36] <neverblue> jose, test one individually, then the other, to confirm they each work
[17:36] <soroush> hi, wols
[17:36] <soroush> wols, thanks a lot for your help
[17:36] <Ali_ix> pastor: paste isn't a terminal command :)
[17:36] <jose> neverblue the rtl 8029 AS works fine in windows and in the 64 bits kernel
[17:37] <neverblue> jose so its a driver issue
[17:37] <soroush> wols, i could install my audio on generic kernell
[17:37] <soroush> *kernel
[17:37] <JGJones> wols: when I changed the line in grub from root=(hd0,2) to root(hd0,5) and then boot it'll just tell me the disk doesn't exist (or parition not found) - error 15 if I remember correctly.
[17:37] <Ali_ix> jose: isn't it the 10mbit old realtec nics?
[17:37] <soroush> but it doesn't work
[17:37] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted...
[17:37] <soroush> i mean speaker icon isn't shown mute
[17:37] <jose> Ali_ix maybe yes
[17:37] <Ali_ix> jose: i have tried legacy driver in kernel config to get it work onve!
[17:37] <flibberdy> kitche: i start swat by just running sudo swat, but i can't then access http://localhost:901 (default address if the man page is to be believed)
[17:37] <Ali_ix> *once
[17:37] <soroush> but no sound can be heard
[17:37] <ADemiG0D> if i'm looking to crack the neighbors 128 Bit WEP, what program would be best suitable?
[17:38] <jose> Ali_ix how i do that?
[17:38] <wols> JGJones: starting windows does work I presume?
[17:38] <soroush> what can the problem be?
[17:38] <JGJones> wols: yes it does.
[17:38] <Ali_ix> jose: i have downloaded kernel source and compiled it manually
[17:38] <Ali_ix> jose: i think the driver didnt include in default ubuntu kernel
[17:38] <neverblue> jose I can no longer assist u, good luck
[17:38] <wols> JGJones: try (hd0,1) onwards then :)
[17:38] <pastor> Ali_ix, stupid me.
[17:38] <wols> one of them must work, makes no sense othrewise
[17:38] <jose> thx neverblue
[17:39] <rusty> http://tinyurl.com/249rjg
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> if i'm looking to crack a 128 Bit WEP, what program would be best suitable?
[17:39] <pastor> Ali_ix, done
[17:39] <Ali_ix> pastor: no, just newbie :)
[17:39] <Ali_ix> pastor: link?
[17:39] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted...
[17:39] <jose> Ali_ix how i can find an step by step guide for do that?
[17:39] <wols> ADemiG0D: this channel does not endorse cracking
[17:39] <JGJones> wols: did it for hd0,1 to hd0,10 - no joy with any.
[17:39] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49046/
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> is there one that does? I've seen programs that do it in the repositories
[17:39] <soroush> oh. i found the problem
[17:39] <Ali_ix> jose: check howtoforge for ubuntu/debian specific guide
[17:39] <soroush> great
[17:39] <soroush> thanks alot
[17:39] <soroush> bye
[17:39] <JGJones> wols: also did hd0,0 as well.
[17:39] <luke-jr> How can I get madwifi on 7.10?
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> the default repositories too
[17:39] <wols> ADemiG0D: if you seen them, then use them if you must
[17:40] <wols> !madwifi | luke-jr
[17:40] <ADemiG0D> -.-
[17:40] <ubotu> luke-jr: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:40] <jose> ok i will
[17:40] <Ali_ix> pastor:  please paste these too: 'sudo route -n' and 'sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:41] <JGJones> wols: This all started ever since I installed those kernel security updates - hence why I suggested that had fubar'ed my grub (if you read that forum thread, one reverted to previous kernel for it to work, sadly I don't have that)
[17:41] <Ali_ix> pastor: your local ip is: 192.168.74.254
[17:41] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted... And the processor is in 100% use all the tme now :(
[17:41] <wols> JGJones: change  groot=(hd0,2) to hd0,5
[17:41] <wols> then run sudo update-grub
[17:41] <Ali_ix> !repeat | r4wMUnt34q
[17:41] <ubotu> r4wMUnt34q: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:41] <luke-jr> wols: too bad it's not listed
[17:41] <wols> JGJones: kernel headers as you said are NOT kernels. big difference there
[17:42] <JGJones> wols - will do, to double-check - should I chroot into the disk before doing update-grub?
[17:42] <wols> luke-jr: apt-cache search madwifi
[17:42] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49048/
[17:42] <wols> JGJones: no!
[17:42] <IdanMA> Hello All, I have a FileSystem question.
[17:42] <wols> JGJones: stop. you are on a live cd now?
[17:42] <JGJones> wols: yes
[17:42] <wols> then chroot, yes. sorry
[17:42] <JGJones> :)
[17:42] <Ali_ix> JGJones: lol
[17:42] <JGJones> think I'll be able to do that in Windows(!) heh
[17:43] <Cygnet> hey guys, last night I tried to install a new nvidia video card (replacing intel integrated graphics) but with the new card installed, Linux won't boot
[17:43] <IdanMA> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu (7.10) on my laptop - Pentium 3 600MHz / 256MB Ram (100Mhz sdram) and I wonder what will be the best FS for a laptop.
[17:43] <wols> it does boot. just that X won't start. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. choose vesa
[17:43] <luke-jr> wols: only see userspace tools on packages.ubuntu.com
[17:43] <Cygnet> no, it doesn't finish booting
[17:43] <wols> Cygnet: then install the nvidia drivers from restricted
[17:43] <luke-jr> apt-cache of course requires internet to already be working
[17:44] <nemofish> i'm trying to install ubuntu onto the free space i had, and i did the partitions just as i liked, however when i clicked install, it seemed my cd drive just stopped working or powered off so the install doesn't complete. anyhelp? (using the live cd)
[17:44] <Ali_ix> pastor: retry it: sudo route -n
[17:44] <IdanMA> Anyone has a tip on my Q ?
[17:44] <Ali_ix> pastor:  i need also: sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:44] <Cygnet> it doesn't dump me to a prompt, I know I need to install drivers, but it gets stuck while trying to boot and I can't do anything
[17:45] <wols> Cygnet: failsafe boot?
[17:45] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49049/
[17:45] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok, your router ip is: 192.168.74.1
[17:45] <wols> IdanMA: ext3
[17:45] <Ali_ix> pastor: type it ina browser
[17:46] <Cygnet> wols when I tried the recovery mode option I got the boot text but I couldn't tell what was going on at the point it got stuck
[17:46] <Synx_sleep> Anyone get flash video/flash in general working in 7.10?
[17:46] <Cygnet> how do I boot failsafe?
[17:46] <wols> Cygnet: init=/bin/bas as kernel parameted
[17:46] <wols> *parameter
[17:46] <pastor> Ali_ix, it says, problem loading page.
[17:46] <wols> that WILL give you a shell where you can dpkg-reconfigure
[17:46] <Ali_ix> !flashissue | Synx_sleep
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:46] <wols> Cygnet: init=/bin/bash  rather
[17:46] <Ali_ix> :|
[17:46] <IdanMA> wois: Could you please explain why it's better over ReiserFS - I need to squeeze any bit of performance from this old lappy.
[17:46] <duvnell> I"m using ubuntu desktop 32bit.. I have 8 gigs installed but it only sees 4.. do I need to install a different kernel?
[17:47] <inuyaga> question: Does anyone know how to change the way Gedit handled double click selection. I would like it to be able to select things like 'this_is_a_var123'
[17:47] <wols> IdanMA: reiser as no meaningufll error recovrey. preformance is always secondary to data loss
[17:47] <bulmer> anyone know if any inexpensive video-camera has the ability to use IIR(infra red) to use it as a mouse, ie it would detect let say a reflected dot and then it can be used as a mouse?
[17:47] <PriceChild> Ali_ix, i aliased that to flashissues
[17:47] <PriceChild> !flashissue | Ali_ix Synx_sleep
[17:47] <ubotu> Ali_ix Synx_sleep: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[17:48] <IdanMA> wois: So I understand ReiserFS is faster for a desktop/laptop but has "stability" issues ?
[17:48] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok, check your router manuals, you should be able to access its web based control panel, and set the opendns servers as your main, permannt dns server in router, once you do this. there is no need to set opendns on your other local network systems
[17:48] <wols> IdanMA: you never will notice what is faster
[17:48] <inuyaga> ReiserFS is good for lots of little files. So /var ?
[17:48] <Ali_ix> PriceChild: thansk for info
[17:48] <linux4me> i'm trying to add an entry in /etc/fstab so that a new partition i created is mounted on boot. how do I determine the UUID?
[17:49] <wols> inuyaga: do you run a big mailserver with maildir?
[17:49] <IdanMA> wois; Ok, thanks. Should I turn on the "noatime" flag on fstab ?
[17:49] <inuyaga> cant tunefs list do the UUID
[17:49] <Ali_ix> linux4me: blkid command will list partions with uuids
[17:49] <pastor> Ali_ix, and the reason I cant's access the router DNS? Thoughts?
[17:49] <inuyaga> wols no I dont so I dont have Riser on my var
[17:49] <linux4me> Ali_ix - tks
[17:49] <wols> inuyaga: it's about the only scenario I can think of where reiser is truly king
[17:50] <inuyaga> I agree
[17:50] <Ali_ix> pastor: now, i have no idea why you cant access router CP, but it shouldnt be dns problem
[17:50] <pastor> Ali_ix, thank you for your time.
[17:50] <soccer_hawk10> hey all.  i've been having trouble recently with my ubuntu machine randomly freezing.  any idea what could be causing it? what information do you need from me to help me?
[17:50] <JGJones> wols: thanks for help...this is what I have done - mounted /dev/sda6 (linux partition) to /mnt/root and then mounted /proc into there as well as binded /dev into there and have updated menu.lst and run update-grub with no errors - All correct? If so, then I'll reboot unless I hear a scream coming from your direction :)
[17:50] <inuyaga> Well I think its better for more transaction like file structures but then why not just use a DB
[17:50] <Ali_ix> pastor: np, i wished i can solve this :}
[17:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone! I destroyed my sound with reverting from self-compiled alsa to Ubuntu's packages... Error message is here: http://nopaste.com/p/a7cnaFfL9
[17:51] <wols>  JGJones sounds fine. check you menu.lst if it noe speaks bout (hd0,5) eveywhere
[17:51] <wols> JGJones: as I said: you changed the groot line to (hd0,5)?
[17:51] <bmw330i> hello, I have a question: Ubuntu 7.10, T43 laptop, accesspoint has no encryption/security but every time I wake or boot I have to open Network Prefs, select an encryption type, type junk into the password field, delete it, then click ok for the Network to work. If I don't it shows enabled but I can't connect to anything.
[17:51] <inuyaga> but ya. Anyone know how to change the selection settings in GEdit?
[17:53] <Alyxander> hey guys question
[17:53] <JGJones> wols: groot - yes I have changed that to hd0,5 - but a question...is that the grub root? If so, would it not be in the first partition?
[17:53] <bulmer> bmw330i-> you can attempt to create a script to perform those steps and run it whenever you wakeboot ?
[17:53] <W8TAH> hi folks - i need some help -- ive been fighting for about 2 hours now trying to get my laptop to use the wireless connection more or less automatically -- in my mind when there is no wired connection present, it should automagickly connect via wireless if possible - but it wont -- it takes 10 mins of messing with configs and stuff to get it to connect - -HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP
[17:53] <wols> JGJones: where is your /boot ?
[17:53] <Alyxander> how do I create a PPC or mac version of an ISO?
[17:53] <MilhousePunkRock> bmw330i: The network manager is far from being perfect, I suggest you just configure you network manually with the /etc/network/interfaces
[17:53] <JGJones> wols: sda6 ok hd0,5 it is then
[17:53] <Mariodd> Is there somebody that tell me why my modem syddenly drop the line after 15-20 minutes
[17:53] <bmw330i> hi bulmer, agreed, was hoping to not have to. I wonder it's it's wpasupplicant related. I once had it setup but then just unlocked the access point
[17:53] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes...
[17:54] <wols> Mariodd: check your syslog
[17:54] <linux4me> blkid only show me the uuid of /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5. I need the uuid for /dev/sda3
[17:54] <bulmer> bmw330i-> you may have to toy with the settings in your /etc/network/interfaces file, ie remove essid and keys
[17:54] <thor> bmw330i I dumped wpa in favour of mac address filtering. It is much more secure and wpa gave me headaches
[17:55] <bmw330i> MilhousePunkRock: Ah, just edit that? Good idea. I thought the GUI did that.
[17:55] <Alyxander> any ideas?
[17:55] <MilhousePunkRock> thor: MAC adresses can easily be spoofed...
[17:55] <IdanMA> wois: Should I enable the "noatime" flag on fstab ?
[17:55] <wols> IdanMA: no
[17:55] <JGJones> linux4me - I usually ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid - it'll show which sda(n) it points to
[17:55] <thor> MilhousePunkRock but they would have to be on your network to sniff it
[17:55] <thor> MilhousePunkRock and without ssid broadcast...they don't even know it is there
[17:55] <MilhousePunkRock> bmw330i: It does, but manual is probably better... Maybe you need to stop or even uninstall network manager... Another thing you could try is wicd, wireless internet connection demon, in my taste way better than nm
[17:55] <bulmer> MilhousePunkRock-> and they have to spend a lot of time to recover it?
[17:55] <IdanMA> wois: Could you explain why ? What benefit will I gain from having it on/off ?
[17:56] <JGJones> ok ...now I'm off to reboot, fingers and toes crossed...
[17:56] <MilhousePunkRock> thor: That's what you think... Hidden SSID is useless
[17:56] <wols> IdanMA: I won't
[17:57] <bmw330i> bulmer, thank you, agreed; thor, ya, I did that, was a pain but I also agree with Milhouse....I'd like to just turn down the power on the access point low enough to keep them out by proximity
[17:57] <rafaelsoaresbr>  I've installed restriced codecs, but I still can't see .rm files...
[17:57] <wols> !rela | rafaelsoaresbr
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rela - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <wols> !real | rafaelsoaresbr
[17:57] <ubotu> rafaelsoaresbr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:57] <infinital> Hello,can someone help me with a problem I am having with ubuntu?
[17:57] <wols> !ask |inf
[17:57] <ubotu> inf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:57] <wols> !ask | infinital
[17:57] <ubotu> infinital: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: You say you want to make a PPC version out of an x86 iso? I'd say that's pretty much impossible
[17:58] <Alyxander> hidden ssid is just that hidden security by obscurity. Also runing without some kind of encrytion in lew of just mac addressing is not such a good I dea all one would have to is spoof a mac
[17:58] <infinital> okay, id like to have ubuntu boot directly to terminal and execute a program/file.. is there a way to do that? i dont want a GUI, i just want it to boot up and run a macromedia flash file
[17:58] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes... any ideas?
[17:58] <Alyxander> and MilhousePunkRock no no there are already ppc iso for ubuntu im developing on GEubuntu and just realized it would run like melted butter on a ppc
[17:58] <wols> infinital: how do you propose to run a flash file wihtout GUI?
[17:58] <MilhousePunkRock> infinital: Remove GMD from you runlevels
[17:59] <ubuntu__> ola soy nuevo qen me puede ayudar
[17:59] <wols> !es | ubuntu__
[17:59] <goldphish> wols: Could you walk me through the process of using make-kpkg to build a kernel module? I'm getting nowhere fast with this.
[17:59] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:59] <infinital> well in windows, you can execute .bat files that run other programs... im hoping to do something similar here
[17:59] <mahrellon> Are there any known problems with latest Nvidia drivers and Ubuntu 7.10 that you guys know of?
[17:59] <ubuntu__> ok
[17:59] <mahrellon> Or is it safe to install/update :)
[17:59] <wols> goldphish: since I don't know what this "UTS" is: not really
[17:59] <MilhousePunkRock> infinital: A shell script that is executed on boot
[17:59] <chazco> mahrellon - I'm using 7.10 with Nvidia drivers, seems fine to me
[17:59] <wols> goldphish: but I gave you the quick+dirty way before :)
[18:00] <wols> goldphish: you have configured the kernel sources with make menuconfig?
[18:00] <infinital> okay. how would you do this milhouse, or can you point me to teh documentation?
[18:00] <Dr_willis> infinital, depends on the specifcs of what you are runnign, and as what user.
[18:00] <pike_> infinital: scripting in linux is head and shoulders better than windows so yeah you can do whatever you want
[18:00] <mahrellon> chazco: But, are you using the very latest drivers from nvidia? I'm just about to upgrade by using envy but don't wanna "brick" my system. :)
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: There is some tweaking needed if you plan to suspend/hibernate, other than that, no problems
[18:00] <Dr_willis> infinital,  removing the GDM service will make the system boot to the console.
[18:00] <chazco> Hmm... not sure if they're the absolute latest
[18:00] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock, Ah, cheers m8. I never turn off my computer anyhow :)
[18:00] <mahrellon> Chazco, thanks m8. :)
[18:01] <infinital> once in console, what do I need to do to get it to execute the shell script and run this:http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html?
[18:01] <wols> mahrellon: we do not support envy at all.
[18:01] <pastor> Anyone want to try ans take a stab at why I can't accesss my router's IP?
[18:01] <goldphish> wols: no, I didn't think I had to build a whole kernel.
[18:01] <ip00n> my live cd (7.04) isnt detecting my pendrive.. any help_?
[18:01] <wols> mahrellon: if you want to break your ubuntu, fine, but don't ask us for support
[18:01] <bulmer> infinital-> you can search for kiosk like  setup ..it may do what you wan to achieve, no user intervention
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: In that case you really should consider hibernating ;) 10 seconds to be back from a complete power off... Saves energy...
[18:01] <mahrellon> wols: Yeah I know that but my question wasnt about envy. It was about if it's safe to use the latest nv drivers :P
[18:01] <bulmer> pastor-> do you get an ip address from your router/(acting also as dhcp server) ?
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: nv or nvidia-glx?
[18:01] <IdanMA> What does the user_xattr attribute do ? I can't find any info about it except Beagle. But Beagle isn't used anymore by 7.10 (default) so should it be enabled or just turned off ?
[18:02] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock: nvidia-glx. I'm using Compiz fusion atm.
[18:02] <wols> mahrellon: take your deceptions elsewhere. what you get via restricted drives from ubuntu is safe. everything else we don't give a fsck about
[18:02] <infinital> okay. this is to be used to run in a presentation room that runs the same presentation everytime a group comes in.
[18:02] <infinital> thanks
[18:02] <mahrellon> wols, aight m8. No need to get upset. I was merely asking.
[18:02] <wols> mahrellon: you were deceiving and you know it
[18:02] <pastor> bulmer, Not sure what that means. Break it down for me?
[18:02] <bulmer> infinital-> a kiosk like setup is perfect i believe..you can possibly even put it in a usb thumbdrive and boot off oit
[18:03] <goldphish> wols: Supposedly module-assistant should do the trick but when I give it the module name 'keyspan' is says 'keyspan, what is keyspan?'
[18:03] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: I am running the latest nvidia-glx-new from the stock repo, no problems whatsoever... Well, the resolution was wrong and could not be changed at first, but manually setting an apropriate screen fixed that
[18:03] <wols> goldphish: m-a needs packages with the driver. source packages basically
[18:03] <bulmer> pastor-> please elaborate on your network layout so we dont keep guessing on what you got and what is connected to what
[18:03] <wols> goldphish: do a make menuconfig and only change the keyspan setting to M
[18:03] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes...
[18:03] <mahrellon> wols, wasn't my intention. I just wanted to know if it was safe to use the latest drivers and I didn't really think about being deceptive asking about official nv drivers. My bad and I apologize.
[18:03] <ip00n> please, someone. my pendrive isnt detected
[18:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Now that I have your attention, back to my initial question:  I destroyed my sound with reverting from self-compiled alsa to Ubuntu's packages... Error message is here: http://nopaste.com/p/a7cnaFfL9
[18:04] <Alyxander> mrdinkles, check your system logs and see what error your getting
[18:04] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock, thanks m8. I'll try them.
[18:04] <ip00n> it's ntfs, does that matter?
[18:04] <wols> ip00n: what does dmesg say?
[18:04] <ip00n> dmesg?
[18:04] <pike_> ip00n: unplug/replug then type dmesg | tail  do you see a sda or sdb or sdc or whatever detected?
[18:04] <ip00n> in terminal?
[18:04] <nitro4ce> hi. is there a way to make a directory behave like a http site? for example: i enter my ip adress and it opens index.html file inside that directory?
[18:04] <wols> ip00n: yes
[18:04] <ip00n> 1 sec
[18:04] <Alyxander> or mrdinkles run rythmbox from the terminal and see what error you get
[18:04] <MilhousePunkRock> ip00n: Probably... Could be that you dont have ntfs support
[18:04] <wols> nitro4ce: run a webserver with that document root
[18:05] <ip00n> wow, dmseg procudec pages of text..
[18:05] <pastor> bulmer, ok, I have a wireless satellite connection that runs into my D-Link connecting my router to my laptop. 604+.
[18:05] <ip00n> what do i look for?
[18:05] <pike_> ip00n: very bottom
[18:05] <bulmer> nitro4ce-> look into using netcat, neat tool, can do/create a webserver without writing one
[18:05] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: which log should i look at?
[18:06] <cherva> can you tell me simple application to cut unneeded parts of a wav file
[18:06] <Alyxander> just run rytmbox from the terminal and then try to rip your cd and see what error pops up mrdinkles
[18:06] <ip00n> NTFS-sf warning
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> cherva: Audacity
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !audacity | cherva
[18:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:06] <bulmer> pastor-> ummm by default satellite connection will be wireless, hard to lash up 29,000 miles of cable..
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !package audacity | cherva
[18:06] <Alyxander> MilhousePunkRock, what a good application to add music to your mp4?
[18:07] <Alyxander> *whats
[18:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: I know nothing about MP4 ;)
[18:07] <George> how can I get my /usr/local/lib/ to be linked to any program I use, for example if I run an ogre3d app it tells me it needs ogreMain which is in /usr/local/lib, is there a way to make it "public" to all the programs/
[18:07] <Alyxander> MilhousePunkRock, mpeg 4 video files
[18:07] <pike_> ip00n: not very very bottom but like do dmesg | tail -n 30 to just get last 30 lines
[18:07] <bulmer> pastor-> anyhows, D-link is your router and it has a connectivity to the other end (via satellite) ?
[18:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: I know that, but I have never edited any and don't plan on doing that
[18:07] <pastor> bulmer, lol, ok. I live in the country.
[18:07] <Alyxander> ok
[18:07] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: the rythmbox opens for example-- I clicked on the top to move the screen around when i started to move it, it closed-- Could this be because i have compiz fusion or maybe a change with that?
[18:08] <pike_> ip00n: is this a windows formated pendrive? what i mean is most are fat32 but it may be ntfs
[18:08] <pastor> bulmer, the dish is on top of my roof, and recieves its connection via sattalite. From there a wire runs down the house into my study.
[18:08] <goldphish> wols: hmm now it's comlaining 'error: curses.h: No such file or directory'. I have ncurses installed. Which package provides curses.h?
[18:08] <Alyxander> well if you suspect it to be compiz turn compiz off then try it but are your running it from the terminal so you can see the crash error? mrdinkles
[18:08] <ip00n> i remember formatting my pendrive to ntfs
[18:09] <wols> goldphish: the ncurses dev package
[18:09] <bulmer> pastor-> again, D-link is your router ? it has a connectivity to the other end (via satellite) which you already verified right??
[18:09] <pastor> yes, D-Link is my router.
[18:09] <pastor> bulmer, D-link is my router
[18:10] <bulmer> pastor-> you have verified it has a connectivity to the other end yes? how did you verify this?
[18:10] <JGJones> wols: thanks for help - all fixed now. No idea how the grub changed itself to hd0,2 in the first place though.
[18:10] <pastor> bulmer, Well I'm on line. Does that count?
[18:10] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: whats the command to run any program like this through terminal?
[18:11] <wols> JGJones: me neither
[18:11] <bulmer> pastor-> well thats why I asked earlier to elaborate so we will understand your connectivity, you didnt mention you are already sharing same router connectivity
[18:11] <Alyxander> mrdinkles, rythmbox, if im miss spelling the name im sorry
[18:11] <wols> mrdinkles: open an xterm, start program, see output of program
[18:11] <bulmer> pastor->  hard to guess ones setup lest they elaborate an explanation
[18:11] <il-luzhin> hey folks
[18:12] <il-luzhin> can someone direct me to a Jack howto please?
[18:12] <MilhousePunkRock> !jack
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <mrdinkles> wols: whats xterm?
[18:12] <bulmer> pastor-> since you are connected now, i assume using microsoft and not linux?
[18:12] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with the bot?
[18:12] <il-luzhin> thnx
[18:12] <ip00n> pike_: i dont see sda or sdb or sdc...
[18:12] <pastor> bulmer, my laptop and one other Ununtu computer share this router (D-Link).
[18:12] <wols> mrdinkles: generic term for "X terminal"
[18:12] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: says command rythmbox not found
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: nothing shows when i open terminal, then open rythmbox
[18:13] <pastor> bulmer, both are Ubuntu.
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: nothing in the terminal shows
[18:13] <wols> mrdinkles: since you didn't start it, duh!
[18:13] <bulmer> pastor-> of the 3 sharing the D-Link, how many are not working or rather dont have the internet access?
[18:13] <pci> pastor:  what's your distro?
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: how do i start it with terminal lol
[18:13] <goldphish> wols: cool, got the kernel reconfigured. Now what? can I just do 'make modules'?
[18:14] <wols> mrdinkles: by typing int he executable name and pressing enter
[18:14] <wols> goldphish: yes
[18:14] <Alyxander> rhythmbox, mrdinkles
[18:14] <Alyxander> is the command
[18:14] <cliebow> test
[18:14] <pastor> bulmer, both computers share the internet, and are online right now. Both using Ubuntu, and FireFox.
[18:14] <pike_> ip00n: try lsusb do you see it there?
[18:14] <wols> cliebow: test failed
[18:14] <Alyxander> if it says not found it should tell you its not installed
[18:14] <wols> Alyxander: huh?
[18:15] <bulmer> pastor-> so which pc and os is not connected then?
[18:15] <pike_> ip00n: this normally works without any effort on your part not sure what the prob is
[18:15] <wols> Alyxander: it would help if you'd spelled it right
[18:15] <boris> can anyone reccomend me a distro, smilar to ubuntu, it should have tremulous in the repos
[18:15] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: wow...thats sad-- okay the error is *** stack smashing detected ***: rhythmbox terminated
[18:15] <mrdinkles> Aborted (core dumped)
[18:15] <pike_> boris: debian :)
[18:15] <wols> boris: this is #ubuntu. We ONLY recommend ubuntu obviously
[18:15] <boris> fglrx driver broke and i want to try something else
[18:15] <ip00n> pike_: it only lists my belkin wireless USB thingy
[18:15] <xoqa> http://pastebin.com/m71773505  -any reason why the script aborted?
[18:15] <pike_> ip00n: try another usb port
[18:15] <soccer_hawk10> hey all, can someone try to help me diagnose a problem? my computer 7.10 keeps freezing randomly...
[18:15] <xoqa> trying to get the graphics on this sytem to work properly...
[18:15] <boris> wols: thank you very much !
[18:15] <ip00n> but could it be the NTFS formatting?
[18:15] <pastor> bulmer, both are connected. The one I am on now is the one I'm trying to access the router IP through to no avail.
[18:15] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Did you do a memtest?
[18:16] <soccer_hawk10> MilhousePunkRock: yes, it was fine
[18:16] <wols> ip00n: no. it'd be recognized regardless by the kernel
[18:16] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi, I'm having problems with booting from the install CD, could someone help me?
[18:16] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: How many runs?
[18:16] <pike_> boris: there is a distro only for linux games try distrowatch to find it
[18:16] <wols> soccer_hawk10: for how long?
[18:16] <pastor> bulmer, http://192.168.254.1 is my router IP, but I cant get the page to open.
[18:16] <mrdinkles> wols: *** stack smashing detected ***: rhythmbox terminated
[18:16] <mrdinkles> Aborted (core dumped)
[18:16] <ip00n> that's truly strange then..
[18:16] <boris> pike_: thats not what im looking for
[18:16] <Spiro> greetings, having an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 2.01 GHz which version of Ubuntu to choose (i386, i686, or and64)?
[18:16] <bulmer> pastor are you referring to the your side of the pc or the wan side?
[18:17] <MilhousePunkRock> pastor: Maybe you have a mac/ip restriction which PC can access it?
[18:17] <soccer_hawk10> wols, MilhousePunkRock: i let it run all the way through on standard settings or whatever.  i'm convinced the ram isn't the problem
[18:17] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi, could someone help me?=
[18:17] <Alyxander> wols, yeah i know i dont use it so i already apologized for the miss spelling mrdinkles google the error msg
[18:17] <wols> soccer_hawk10:please answer my question. "how long" reuqires a time as an answer
[18:17] <pike_> Spiro: if you dont care about 64 bit go with i386 you wont see a big improvement in 64 anyway in general desktop stuff though there is some
[18:17] <mrdinkles> alyxander: lol, not sure how i messed it up either lol
[18:17] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Dust in the case maybe, therefore thermal problems? All cards properly seated?
[18:17] <Ayabara> hey. after a kernel upgrade yesterday, the sound on my ubuntu no longer works. when I run alsamixer in terminal, it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[18:18] <soccer_hawk10> wols: sorry, i just don't know what that means... i believe it ran for about fourty minutes
[18:18] <pike_> Spiro: i have sempron 64 and have never bothered installing 64bit distro on it
[18:18] <wols> !sound
[18:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:18] <bulmer> pastor-> or are you referring to the config page of your D-link ?
[18:18] <Elive_user42> ubuntu won't boot. it crashes at the NetWork manager
[18:18] <pastor> I think so bulmer.
[18:18] <wols> soccer_hawk10: come back when you ran it at least 4 hours or better overnight. 40 minutes is not enough for testing memory
[18:18] <Elive_user42> full error message at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3979769#post3979769
[18:19] <soccer_hawk10> wols: it's not the memory.  XP runs several days on end with no problem, ubuntu doesn't
[18:19] <Spiro> good, now, what is i386 for and i686 for? Isn't it better to choose i686? Anyone can explain?
[18:19] <bulmer> pastor-> so which one are you attempting to get to ? ip address wise..the wan side or the webserver based config of D-Link?
[18:19] <wols> soccer_hawk10: that is not conclusive either, sorry
[18:19] <wols> soccer_hawk10: disable acpi
[18:19] <soccer_hawk10> wols: your only suggestion is memory?
[18:19] <Alyxander> soccer_hawk10, sorry to have you reexplain your problem, but whats happening?
[18:19] <ngirard> Hi all, I need to print a number of booklets using my deskjet printer, but the prints get shifted. Do you know about a tool to help me get perfectly aligned prints ?
[18:19] <wols> no. my suggestions only are meant on how to do a proper memtest
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> wols: one that i don't need... thanks, i'll keep it in mind
[18:20] <Elive_user42> anybody?
[18:20] <wols> soccer_hawk10: nvidia drivers? or fglrx?
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> Alyxander: intel
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> oops
[18:20] <Spiro> pike_, good, now, what is i386 for and i686 for? Isn't it better to choose i686? Anyone can explain?
[18:20] <bulmer> pastor-> am guessing you're attempting to reach the config webserver...try 192.68.1.254 or 192.168.1.252 or 192.168.1.1  instead
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> wols: intel
[18:21] <soccer_hawk10> Alyxander: ubuntu machine randomly freezes.  seems to happen most, but not exclusively, when streaming audio or video
[18:21] <boris> can i somehow reconfigure everything graphics related ?
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: Are you around
[18:21] <ljcasey> boris, elaborate.
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:21] <soccer_hawk10> wols: how do i disable ACPI
[18:22] <ifireball> soccer_hawk10: sound like a hardware/heating problem, try checking the gfx card's fans
[18:22] <pike_> Spiro: there isnt a huge deal with that technically in theory you may see improvement with 686 compiled but.. if you are using a generic kernel not one you compiled the advantages are not really there see this
[18:22] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: boot with "acpi=off"
[18:22] <pike_> !generic | Spiro
[18:22] <ubotu> Spiro: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[18:22] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: COMPLETELY reconfigure graphics, remove all the drivers (fglrx, leftovers of radeon),... ?
[18:22] <soccer_hawk10> ifireball: that's kinda my instinct but i'm not sure... XP is fine, and i have an integrated intel graphics card
[18:22] <soccer_hawk10> MilhousePunkRock: would i edit that under grub?
[18:23] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Well, you can edit it one time on the grub menu to try if that helps at all
[18:23] <Tomterer> I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to automatically mount to a particular directory. where do I look for that kind of settings?
[18:23] <barefoot> hello, anyone get root-tail working? it starts okay but I get no output on the desktop, need to edit nautilus or something?
[18:24] <wols> asowith a boot parameter
[18:24] <soccer_hawk10> i just don't know how to boot with acpi=off.  i.e. where do i put that argument.  what config file
[18:24] <wols> soccer_hawk10: either edit in menu.lst or press e on the boot menu
[18:24] <Spiro> Lastly, I have been using kubuntu for a year now. Even before choosing kubuntu I have always had problems when upgrading kde, mostly related to my profile where I had to create a mew account and reverse all my data over to the new account. What about ubuntu (with gnome)?
[18:24] <soccer_hawk10> thanks wols
[18:24] <ifireball> soccer_hawk10: try configuring Xorg to use generic VESA drivers rather then the specialised intel ones, see what happens
[18:24] <wols> soccer_hawk10: and as others suggested checking the temp of videocard and CPU would be a good thing to do too
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: Since I dont know what all you installed and where it came from .. no I dont have a quick answer
[18:25] <hiddenghost> Hi, i need some help with my graphics
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> a good temperature to shoot for is what, wols? i think it generally runs at 147 fahrenheit
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> the CPU i mean
[18:25] <mrdinkles> Stack smashing error-- Core dumped using Rhythmbox-- Anyone experienced this before?-- Google said it was a security issue and i should dl some stuff... any ideas?
[18:25] <bundagan> is flash-nonfree broken in gusty?
[18:25] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: Radeon opensource driver and fglrx 7.11
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> bundagen yes
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> if i'm not mistaken
[18:25] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: i installed the fglrx driver manually, not from repos
[18:26] <Tomterer> I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to mount to a particular directory. how to?
[18:26] <Ali_ix> !flashissues | bundagan
[18:26] <ubotu> bundagan: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[18:26] <hiddenghost> I have been using blender to make 3d and there seems to be a problem with the zbuffer for 3d graphics.
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: Yea.. figured that..
[18:26] <xoqa> anyone mind helping me getting the ati drivers to work?
[18:26] <pike_> Spiro: ive not noticed any such issues but i dont use gnome a great deal so maybe someone else here can answer that. usually though.. ive used same config files on diff distros with diff versions of gnome and not noticed but issues
[18:27] <Spiro> but can I use another Desktop Manager beside kde and gnome?
[18:27] <ip00n> i dont get it. my pendrive isnt detected... im running a liveCd, ok, but it should take this long.
[18:27] <ip00n> please, anyone?
[18:27] <Ali_ix> Spiro: yes you genereally can
[18:27] <hiddenghost> I was told elsewhere on a form to adjust my 3d acceleration
[18:27] <Spiro> in an easy way to install nd which ones I can choose from?
[18:28] <kaukse> Hi everyone
[18:28] <hiddenghost> 3d acceleration was a good fix for windows, but what do I do in ubuntu
[18:28] <hiddenghost> My work flow would be enhanced by the zbuffer do what it should.
[18:29] <soccer_hawk10> wols: what temperature am i hoping my machine will be below
[18:29] <kaukse> Anyone knows a good website listing linux hardware compatibility ?
[18:29] <Phusion> hiddenghost: sounds like a driver issue to me, what hardware you runnin?
[18:29] <Phusion> kaukse: might want to try google for that one
[18:29] <lonejack>  hi, how can be possible to use file browser as root(admin)? When I open it I can see dirs but I can't create dirs or file (due to permission). Is there an easy way to do that? Thank you
[18:29] <Ali_ix> lonejack: you can try: sudo nautilus in gnome
[18:29] <Phusion> lonejack: root protected files are protected for a reason, so be careful
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: gksudo nautlius
[18:30] <Ali_ix> lonejack: is is not recommended to use it regurally
[18:30] <Tomterer> Please guys... I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to mount to a particular directory. how to?
[18:30] <nickrud> lonejack, if you run nautilus, as root, see Jack_Sparrow
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Ali_ix: bad idea to sudo a gui
[18:30] <hiddenghost> Phusion: do you mean what graphics card?
[18:30] <Phusion> hiddenghost: thats right
[18:30] <lonejack> nickrud, thank you
[18:30] <Ali_ix> Jack_Sparrow:  just a quick and dirty answer, alt f2 + gksudo whould be nice
[18:30] <bundagan> note to maintainers, wings3d is still broken, been broken since feisty
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: If you want to spend much time as root in a file manager.. look into thunar or somethine lighter than nautilus
[18:31] <ip00n> ok, i managed to open my pendrive now, but im unable to write to it. any help? its ntfs
[18:31] <nickrud> lonejack, I came in last :)
[18:31] <pteague_work> what exactly does beagled do & why is it eating up 91% cpu?
[18:31] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: it is a desktop search app, indexes your files
[18:31] <Dr_willis> it indexes every so often
[18:32] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: you can try tracker instead, it is more resource friendly
[18:32] <nickrud> lonejack, but it would be worth your while to learn the terminal commands for working on system files, it's good to keep them conceptually separate from your personal stuff. Safer
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> hi
[18:32] <nixi> hi, i've trouble with grub.. first i installed ubuntu on my laptop and after a few weeks i installed XP. Now my MBR is overwritten and i want to change it back that i can boot both..
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> is there an equivelant to Launchy for Ubuntu?
[18:32] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I think it's intel
[18:32] <pteague_work> for some reason i have both trackerd & beagled running at the same time
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> nixi: Grub Floppy
[18:32] <Phusion> hiddenghost: well, thats a very poor 3d accelerator
[18:33] <mrdinkles> Stack smashing error-- Core dumped using Rhythmbox-- Anyone experienced this before?-- Google said it was a security issue and i should dl some stuff... any ideas?
[18:33] <nickrud> lol, pteague_work that's redundant. unless you have your drives mounted with the user_xattr option, stick with tracker
[18:33] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: so you can config beagle to track and index less directories
[18:33] <hiddenghost> Phusion: what do you mean?
[18:33] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: did you call
[18:33] <wols> soccer_hawk10: that depends on CPU and chipset and videocard
[18:33] <robdig> !grub |  nixi
[18:33] <ubotu> nixi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:33] <kaukse> Phusion: Yeah, If that's the only solution... I might try to create such a website someday :)
[18:33] <OldSpice> Anyone know where Firefox is stored right after installing Ubuntu? I have to migrate my bookmarks and such from Windows.
[18:33] <ip00n> please, can someone help me to write things onto my ntfs pendrive?
[18:34] <loucas> !drivers
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <Phusion> hiddenghost: Intel's 3d accelerators are crappy, I'd imagine any support for them would be poor
[18:34] <soccer_hawk10> wols: ballpark guess: pentium 4, 865 intel chipset, integrated graphics
[18:34] <ikonia> OldSpice: you need ~/.firefox
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: :)
[18:34] <pteague_work> k, there we go...  nowhere near as bad
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: yes.. but forgot why atm
[18:34] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[18:34] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: look in your user home directory for .mozilla directory
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[18:34] <OldSpice> Okay thank you.
[18:34] <wols> soccer_hawk10: which P4? prescott is different from northwood...
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[18:34] <wols> soccer_hawk10: as a rule of thumb 50-60° with a P4 northwood IIRC. old cpu :)
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: http://www.linux.org/hardware/
[18:35] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I see. what would you suggest for proper hardware to get good 3d acceleration.
[18:35] <soccer_hawk10> prescott i think, but i'm not sure
[18:35] <wols> hiddenghost: nvidia
[18:35] <kaukse> Phusion: for now my only goal is to build a new computer which I'm sure it's fully supported...
[18:35] <Phusion> hiddenghost: Nvidia Geforce 6 series
[18:35] <wols> soccer_hawk10: presshots are quite a bit hotter than northwoods
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: ok, well thats not too tough these days, most stuff works
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: most incompatibility lies in peripherals
[18:36] <komputes> does anyone know the command to close an ssh session?
[18:36] <nickrud> komputes, exit
[18:36] <wols> Phusion: gf7 works fine btw
[18:36] <komputes> nickrud: thanks
[18:36] <soccer_hawk10> my cpu tends to run at about 147 or 150 fahrenheit
[18:36] <Phusion> wols: yeah I was just saying, 6 series and up
[18:36] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I have seen a lot about those on the ubuntu forums.
[18:36] <hiddenghost> wols: thanks
[18:36] <wols> soccer_hawk10: SI units please
[18:36] <OldSpice> ikonia: what is ~/.firefox?
[18:36] <Phusion> hiddenghost: yeah, Ubuntu supports both ATI and Nvidia cards natively now
[18:36] <ikonia> OldSpice: your home dir and a directory called .firefox
[18:36] <ikonia> OldSpice: it may be .mozilla depending on your version
[18:36] <wols> Phusion: not necessarily GF8 series. except the very expensive ones or the shitty ones
[18:36] <RoDoX> folks i want to install mozilla's instantbird, but the installer is zipped on a tar.gz package. how can i unzip the installer and run it?
[18:37] <Phusion> hiddenghost: do you have an AGP system? I'd imagine you do.
[18:37] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: ~ reffers to your home directory, like /home/ali_ix
[18:37] <robert_> BaBY`25` is spamming
[18:37] <Phusion> wols: right.
[18:37] <PriceChild> robert_, thanks, aware.
[18:37] <robert_> PriceChild, no prob.
[18:37] <nickrud> RoDoX, tar xf <tar.gz file>
[18:37] <soccer_hawk10> wols: alrighty, hang on just a sec.  i don't remember how to convert it off the bat
[18:37] <ip00n> please, how to write to ntfs formatted pendrive?
[18:37] <lonejack> nickrud, thank you, I did what I want...
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g > ip00n
[18:37] <wols> soccer_hawk10: 65°C
[18:37] <RoDoX> nickrud: gonna try...
[18:38] <hiddenghost> Phusion: AGP? what's that? sorry my ignorance.
[18:38] <soccer_hawk10> yes :) google works its magic
[18:38] <OldSpice> ali_ix: i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu now, and im in my home/username but i dont see any .firefox or .mozilla, all i see is documents/music/pictures/public/templates/videos/etc
[18:38] <wols> hiddenghost: what computer do you have? what chipset on the mainboard?
[18:38] <nickrud> lonejack, yw, (I do run that ever so often myself, but I usually find some sweat on my brow afterwards :)
[18:38] <kaukse> Phusion: you're right. But a good website would enable some people to build "specialized" pcs (music, video....) easily
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: ./ means hidden....
[18:38] <rusty> http://tinyurl.com/2ftdlt a funny little joke...
[18:38] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: it means "current directory"
[18:38] <hiddenghost> wols: intel
[18:38] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: hidden is simple .file
[18:39] <kbrosnan> OldSpice: if using the file manager try pressing ctrl + H
[18:39] <wols> hiddenghost: and which intel?
[18:39] <Lrac> Hi, I'm adding more memory to my comp, is there a way to increase the size of my swap partition? My hard drive has quite a bit of available unused (not in any partition) space
[18:39] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: try ls -a in terminal
[18:39] <ip00n> jack_sparrow: i cant install that g3 thing. i cant find ntfs-config, and i just dont get it.
[18:39] <ip00n> please help me
[18:39] <nixternal> anyone else just receive a private message from seker?
[18:39] <RoDoX> nickrud: nothing happened
[18:39] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: files and directories starting with "." are hidden by default
[18:39] <askand> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html This seems to be the latest official atidriver..is there an inofficial betadriver too?
[18:39] <wols> Lrac: delete the swap partition (unmount it first), then recreate it
[18:39] <filemonkey> Hey guys, does anyone know how to configure xserver through bash to use the vesa drivers?
[18:39] <nickrud> RoDoX, now do ls, you should see the unpacked directory
[18:39] <kaukse> Phusion: anyway thanks for the links, that's a good starting point.
[18:40] <wols> askand: ask ati. ubuntu only has what is in the restricted repo
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: in context...  he is not seeing his hidden folders and files
[18:40] <RoDoX> nickrud: yes
[18:40] <soccer_hawk10> wols: i updated RAM a while back, but never added to my swap partition.  could that be causing problems?
[18:40] <wols> filemonkey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:40] <soccer_hawk10> upgraded*
[18:40] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: ok, but then ./ is still wrong :)
[18:40] <Phusion> kaukse: I found all of that on google by typing in what you asked for, remember that google is a powerful tool :)
[18:40] <filemonkey> thanks wols :)
[18:40] <RoDoX> nickrud: but theres nothing there
[18:40] <Phusion> kaukse: you're quite welcome.
[18:40] <Lrac> wols: can I do that while ubuntu is running, or should I boot into a CD-version first? Also...I don't know how to do that :)
[18:40] <wols> soccer_hawk10: only when you want to hibernate possibly
[18:40] <nickrud> RoDoX, in general, when a *nix command completes correctly, it says nothing
[18:40] <DaveG|> can anyone direct me to some 64 bit debs of tcl/tk?
[18:40] <nickrud> RoDoX, what do you mean, nothing there?
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: yea yea.. right as alwasy.. kinda like no swap yesterday
[18:40] <wols> Lrac: you usually can do it while runnin. no need to reboot either
[18:40] <DaveG|> can anyone direct me to some 64 bit debs of tcl/tk @ 8.5?
[18:41] <Phusion> DaveG|: tried apt-get?
[18:41] <Phusion> DaveG|: or synaptic?
[18:41] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: I am not always right. I make a lot of errors. some _very_ stupid
[18:41] <DaveG|> Phusion, 8.5?
[18:41] <ip00n> it says E: couldnt find package ntfs-config
[18:41] <soccer_hawk10> wls: how do i add swap space if i don't have unpartitioned space on my drive? can i have it taken away from ext3?
[18:41] <Lrac> wols: cool, I'll give it a shot.
[18:41] <OldSpice> anyone know a website that has some commands for new linux users that maybe google couldn't cough up?
[18:41] <Phusion> hehe
[18:41] <boris> when was the latest kernel released ? what version ? how do i check my version ?
[18:41] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: look tldp.com for bash beginner guides
[18:41] <kaukse> Phusion: yeah, sorry, usually I always start with google... I must be a bit tired tonight :)
[18:41] <nickrud> wols, that's the best sign of knowledge: expecting to be wrong
[18:42] <wols> boris: uname -a
[18:42] <Phusion> OldSpice: http://theory.chem.umn.edu/~mayaan/command.html <-----
[18:42] <wols> boris: as for kernels: kernel.org. ubuntu kernels are different tho
[18:42] <ip00n> please, how do i enable the 'universe' component?
[18:42] <RoDoX> nickrud: i mean theres no installer....i run the command cd/<directory just created> and theres no installer
[18:42] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: sorry it si tldp.org
[18:42] <OldSpice> Thank you guys!
[18:42] <boris> wols: how can i check when my kernel got updated ?
[18:42] <Phusion> ip00n: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst  and uncomment (#) the universe repo
[18:42] <wols> ip00n: you can enable it in synaptic somewhere in the configs
[18:43] <nickrud> RoDoX, then after you've cd'd into the directory, you should be able to execute the program, it's probably in green.  type   ./<nameofprogram>
[18:43] <wols> boris: dpkg.log in /var/log/ for example
[18:43] <Ali_ix> boris: check your running kernel with uname -a command
[18:43] <crush_groove> green listings are executables?
[18:43] <boris> Ali_ix: 2.6.22-14-rt
[18:43] <bigdog_> quick question, is alpha2 on track for a release today?
[18:43] <wols> boris: ls -l /boot/vmlin*
[18:43] <nickrud> crush_groove, if you use the default dircolors, yes
[18:43] <wols> boris: it gives you a date. which is the date it's made
[18:43] <RoDoX> nickrud: i put the name of the program followed by what?
[18:43] <Ali_ix> boris: it looks old :) 2.6.23.9 is out
[18:44] <wols> Ali_ix: not for ubuntu
[18:44] <RoDoX> nickrud: or just the name of the program?
[18:44] <nickrud> RoDoX, then enter. It should run.
[18:44] <PriceChild> !hardy | bigdog_
[18:44] <ubotu> bigdog_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:44] <Ali_ix> wols: what ius latest ubuntu kernel?
[18:44] <Phusion> 2.66.22-14 I think Ali_ix
[18:44] <DaveG|> Phusion, ?? well?
[18:44] <RoDoX> nickrud: it didnt work
[18:44] <Ali_ix> Phusion: thanks
[18:44] <askand> how can I check what ati driver I am using?
[18:45] <bigdog_> PriceChild: thanks
[18:45] <nickrud> RoDoX, what's the program, and where'd you get it
[18:45] <RoDoX> it says "command not found"
[18:45] <boris> how do i update/check for  kernel ?
[18:45] <wols> Ali_ix: some 2.6.22.4 one in feisty
[18:45] <ip00n> Phusion: sources.lst is blank
[18:45] <nickrud> RoDoX, you did cd into the directory , right?
[18:45] <Ali_ix> boris: use update-manager in ubuntu, if you didnt compiled kernel manually before
[18:45] <wols> Ali_ix: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[18:46] <twobits2> I finally got ubuntu installed, but now when the loading screen finishes, I only get a blank screen. Does anyone know why this might happen? I installed it useing NetBootin
[18:46] <Ali_ix> wols: thankx, and no 2.6.23 until hardy?
[18:46] <twobits2> I can use the recovery mode fine, but :/
[18:46] <wols> Ali_ix: nope
[18:46] <RoDoX> nickrud: yeah, and this is the link for the file: http://www.instantbird.com/downloads/0.1/instantbird-0.1.tar.gz
[18:46] <Ali_ix> twobits2: sounds like graphic issue,
[18:46] <profanephobia> i need help setting up dual monitor on a ati card with a custom resolution
[18:46] <twobits2> ...
[18:46] <Ali_ix> twobits2: you may need to install, config proper driver for your vga
[18:46] <robdig> ip00n: it is sources.list      you can also do through gui using system->administration->software sources, and check the box for universe
[18:47] <twobits2> How would I go about doing that? Is there some page on the web (or perhaps the ubuntu docs) I could look at? Forgive me, I am a linux newbie.
[18:48] <OldSpice> How do i access the terminal?
[18:48] <Ali_ix> twobits2: yes, many how-to/manuals. is it your fresh install? what is your video chipset/vga card?
[18:48] <Phusion> OldSpice: Applications -> Accessories -> Term
[18:48] <robdig> OldSpice: applications->accessories->terminal
[18:48] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: alt + f2 > gnome-terminal
[18:48] <Phusion> ahh the run box! I forgot about that :)
[18:48] <OldSpice> phusion: robdig: ali_ix: thank you
[18:48] <Ali_ix> lol
[18:48] <ip00n> robdig: Phusion: i still get E: couldnt find package ntfs-config
[18:48] <Phusion> yer welcome OldSpice, you'll get this ubuntu thing down sooner or later :)
[18:49] <Phusion> ip00n: ok, your sources.lst is BLANK??
[18:49] <AkatO_o> salut a tous
[18:49] <Phusion> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst has nothing?
[18:49] <ip00n> no
[18:49] <OldSpice> phusion: lol i hope so. its really complicated, compared to windows... atleast for me. not to start up any arguments :]
[18:49] <nickrud> RoDoX, brb
[18:49] <profanephobia> i need help setting up dual monitor on a ati card with a custom resolution (1366 by 768)
[18:49] <Phusion> OldSpice: it IS very complicated
[18:49] <RoDoX> nickrud: ok
[18:49] <ip00n> sure it isnt sources.list?
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: He had to have typed it wrong
[18:50] <ip00n> because that DOES have something in it
[18:50] <Phusion> OldSpice: Ubuntu has put it in the least complicated package though, just try vanilla Debian or Slackware some time
[18:50] <twobits2> ali_ix: I have nvida g0 6150
[18:50] <twobits2> go
[18:50] <twobits2> and an nforce motherboard
[18:50] <robdig> ip00n: how are you trying to get it, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config?
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ip00n: yes sources.list
[18:50] <Phusion> ip00n: I'm quite sure
[18:50] <Phusion> lol
[18:50] <Phusion> no
[18:50] <Phusion> it's sources.lst
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[18:51] <nickrud> list :)
[18:51] <Phusion> oh wtf
[18:51] <Ali_ix> twobits2: nice, is it your first, fresh install of ubuntu? what version you are trying?
[18:51] <Phusion> holy heck, sorry!
[18:51] <Lrac> wols: cool, seems to have worked. Thanks!
[18:51] <Phusion> yeah it is list jeez
[18:51] <OldSpice> phusion: haha, to ask another quick question, how would i run commands in the terminal? type in what i want in the blank space than press enter?
[18:51] <ip00n> robdig: yes, that way
[18:51] <Phusion> when did that change, or have I just lost my mind?
[18:51] <twobits2> ali_ix: I am trying to install 7.10, and it is a fresh install
[18:51]  * genii edits Phusion's menu.list
[18:51] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah man, give this a try: ls -lsa
[18:51] <twobits2> ali_ix: It's a laptop, though, so I'm hoping this works
[18:51] <nickrud> rflol
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop/sources.list.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[18:52] <Ali_ix> twobits2: i wonder, you should be able to use vga by nv drivers included
[18:52] <OldSpice> phusion: says command not found.
[18:52] <robdig> ip00n: since you added a repository, try sudo apt-get update, then try to download it again
[18:52] <Ali_ix> twobits2: this is the driver guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:52] <Cygnet> failsafe boot failed, obviously that means I did something wrong but I have no clue what
[18:52] <Ali_ix> twobits2: but you may expriencing some oother issues
[18:52] <profanephobia> i need help setting up dual monitor on a ati card with a custom resolution (1366 by 768)
[18:52] <Phusion> OldSpice: ls -lsa
[18:53] <Phusion> thats LS -LSA but not in caps, just in case you werent reading it right
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: Not to worry,  I've done it too..
[18:53] <twobits2> Ali_ix: everything I do has to be at the command line, as the gui won't show
[18:53] <misos> hibernate and suspend does not work on dell inspiron 6400, running Gutsy 7.10 with latest updates. any fix lately?
[18:53] <Phusion> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, that was kinda lame, I coulda sworn it was lst
[18:53] <flibberdy> anyone here know of a good battery meter for xubuntu?
[18:53] <OldSpice> phusion: haha what is this! confusing stuff
[18:53] <Phusion> OldSpice: ok, you're looking at your directories
[18:53] <komputes> does anyone know how to mount a network drive as a local directory in your filesystem structure, so that users don't even know that they are are using a network drive (weather ssh, ftp, nfs, smb)
[18:53] <Phusion> OldSpice: those rx--rx--'s are the directories permissions
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: With grub/boot/menu.lst   it is easy to mess up
[18:53] <twobits2> Yay! My specific problem is addressed
[18:53] <Ali_ix> twobits2: any errors while booting normally (not rescue mode)?
[18:53] <Phusion> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[18:54] <ip00n> robdig: im running a liveCD... will installing things still work?
[18:54] <ip00n> :p
[18:54] <boris> how do i make apt-get list updates in a terminal ?
[18:54] <twobits2> Apparently there is sometimes problems with GO cards
[18:54] <calux> anyone knows some problems with audio on optiplex 745?
[18:54] <Phusion> OldSpice: the username you see is the user and the group
[18:54] <Cygnet> how can I get a failsafe boot so I can get to a command line and reconfigure xorg so my new nvidia card will work?
[18:54] <twobits2> no errors booting normally
[18:54] <Phusion> OldSpice: just a little learning experience....
[18:54] <tacone> OldSpice: did you installed ubuntu ?
[18:54] <OldSpice> phusion: hehehe
[18:54] <hiddenghost> I'm back!
[18:54] <OldSpice> tacone: ya, and its a headache
[18:54] <Phusion> OldSpice: read that link I sent you, it has lots of linux commands to play with
[18:54] <komputes> does anyone know how to mount a network drive as a local directory in your filesystem structure, so that users don't even know that they are are using a network drive (weather ssh, ftp, nfs, smb)
[18:55] <ip00n> E: sub-process returned an error code (1)
[18:55] <Tomterer> ok so my USB HDD sometimes becomes /dev/sdb, sometimes /dev/sdc etc... how can I make fstab unsterstand what I mean if it keeps changing?
[18:55] <Phusion> komputes: I'd imagine you'd make an entry in fstab
[18:55] <Ali_ix> komputes: you should try add line ins fstab file
[18:55] <tacone> OldSpice: :-)
[18:55] <hiddenghost> wols: my cpu is celeron 2.20 gig
[18:55] <Ali_ix> komputes: what is your network type? nfs? ssh-fs? samba share?
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ip00n: Yes you can install things, but when you reboot, they are gone... look into persistent usb if you want addons to stick running livecd
[18:56] <Cygnet> please, linux hangs during boot with my new nvidia card and all I want in the entire universe right now is to be able to access a command prompt so I can get the drivers installed
[18:56] <ip00n> jack_sparrow: i got an error though trying to install ntfs-config
[18:56] <OldSpice> phusion: in the terminal, after i run a command, it says [sudo] password for *username: ... am i supposed to type my password there? because if i am it won't let me.
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ip00n: are you running gutsy?
[18:56] <hiddenghost> wols: are you there?
[18:56] <Phusion> OldSpice: YOUR password
[18:56] <komputes> Phusion: but how do i store the password securely so that it connects automatically and there is no cleartext file like fstab that could be read
[18:56] <ip00n> 7.04
[18:56] <Phusion> OldSpice: the one you login with
[18:56] <_Casey_> gah i dont have sound anymore
[18:56] <Phusion> komputes: well fstab is protected by root privs
[18:57] <OldSpice> phusion: ya i type but it won't type in, i dont see what i'm typing.
[18:57] <tacone> OldSpice: when you type password char don't show up
[18:57] <aggelos> komputes you must have smbmount and then you run the command smbmount //network/folder /local/folder and done
[18:57] <nickrud> RoDoX, .1 versions software, not suprised it has issues. I moved the libpurple stuff into the prpl dir (where the loader expected them to be) but there appears to be problems still. You should try asking more on the mozilla forums
[18:57] <Phusion> OldSpice: thats a security measure
[18:57] <tacone> OldSpice: it's normal, just type.
[18:57] <_Casey_> my sound isnt recognized anymore
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: passwords dont show up in the term
[18:57] <komputes> Ali_ix: all of them
[18:57] <robdig> ip00n: no, don't think you can install on live cd...or if you do don't think it will stick as live cd doesn't touch harddisk
[18:57] <boris> how do i make ubuntu install ONLY AUTHENTICATED packages ?
[18:57] <OldSpice> phusion: tacone: jack_sparrow: ahhh, i see. ><
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: dont mess with the sources and you should be fine
[18:57] <nickrud> boris, apt-get update should authenticate the packages, unless you have some third party repos
[18:58] <Phusion> OldSpice: want to play with some uber cool network tools?
[18:58] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I turned off my computer to look at my chips and then realized I can just view through the system monitor what my chips are.
[18:58] <genii> boris: It already does that by default
[18:58] <_Casey_> i just did some update and restarted and now alsa and stuff is saying i dont have a sound device
[18:58] <RoDoX> nickrud: do you recommend some IM app?
[18:58] <OldSpice> phusion: sure!
[18:58] <Phusion> hiddenghost: yup, lspci in the term will show you
[18:58] <Phusion> OldSpice: ok sudo apt-get install nmap
[18:58] <Phusion> :)
[18:58] <nickrud> RoDoX, many people use pidgin, I don't im so I'm just a parrot here
[18:58] <_Casey_> pidgin FTW
[18:58] <nickrud> RoDoX, pidgin is installed by default, by the way
[18:58] <YeTr2> RoDoX: pidgin, kopete
[18:58] <_Casey_> commonly known as gaim
[18:58] <Phusion> pidgin is decent
[18:59] <soccer_hawk10> pidgin is good, except i wish it were more themeable
[18:59] <Phusion> but AOL made them change their name
[18:59] <hiddenghost> Phusion: now that I am back wols is mia. They or you were asking what my chipset was.
[18:59] <_Casey_> cuz aol sucks c*ck
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > ip00n:
[18:59] <RoDoX> nickrud: anyway, thank you
[18:59] <YeTr2> soccer_hawk10: you can customize pidgin via gtk
[18:59] <Phusion> hiddenghost: I was asking what video card
[18:59] <ip00n> ?
[18:59] <OldSpice> phusion: okay, i saw a bunch of actions processing, did it install it onto my computer?
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ip00n: Persistent wont work on that ver either..
[18:59] <soccer_hawk10> YeTr2: you have a tutorial handy?
[18:59] <_Casey_> why is ubuntu saying i have no device for sound
[18:59] <nickrud> RoDoX, np, I'm usually interested in what the mozilla foundation is doing, thanks for letting me know about this one
[19:00] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah it should of, try this: sudo nmap -sV -vv -P0 127.0.0.1
[19:00] <YeTr2> soccer_hawk10: sorry, I do noy speak gtk.
[19:00] <Phusion> OldSpice: you're scanning your own computer for open ports
[19:00] <YeTr2> soccer_hawk10: I use ncurses
[19:00] <Phusion> OldSpice: just to let you know :)
[19:00] <RoDoX> nickrud: me too ;)
[19:00] <RoDoX> YeTr2: does kopete support multiple ptotocol? what about chatting with someone who's offline
[19:00] <_Casey_> ok noone wantrs to help ;d
[19:00] <soccer_hawk10> YeTr2: what is ncurses?
[19:00] <YeTr2> RoDoX: I do not know. I do not use kopete
[19:00] <OldSpice> phusion: haha, would i need a firewall or im a pretty safe using ubuntu without any third-party protection
[19:01] <hiddenghost> Phusion: intel 845
[19:01] <Phusion> OldSpice: you behind a router?
[19:01] <YeTr2> soccer_hawk10: can't help you with that one, you'll have to learn for yourself.
[19:01] <Phusion> hiddenghost: yeah, terrible 3d chipset
[19:01] <OldSpice> phusion: yes i am
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > OldSpice
[19:01] <hiddenghost> ug
[19:01] <Phusion> OldSpice: you're fine
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: not needed
[19:01] <_Casey_> !hdaintel > _Casey_
[19:01] <hiddenghost> I will have to see about researching something different, looks like.
[19:01] <OldSpice> phusion: jack_sparrow: alright, just making sure. rather be safe than sorry!
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: np
[19:02] <YeTr2> OldSpice: keep your machine up to date, don't do stupid things,  and you shouldn't have to do much.
[19:02] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah man, good thinkin'
[19:02] <ip00n3> screw the pendrive... ill just transfer my files over irc
[19:02] <wols> hiddenghost: cpu is no chipset
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: I would politely suggest a full (and easy to do) backup at this point
[19:02] <Qhestion> will i be able to upgrade from 7.10 (gibbon) to 8.04 (heron) when it comes out?
[19:02] <Phusion> wols: the Intel 845 is a gfx chipset
[19:02] <nickrud> Qhestion, yes
[19:02] <wols> Qhestion: yes
[19:02] <OldSpice> well, this isn't really a big problem, but is there a way to copy+paste commands onto the terminal? typing long ones character by character is intesse
[19:02] <hiddenghost> wols: yes, I now realize my confusion.
[19:02] <Qhestion> nice :)
[19:02] <wols> Phusion: an intel celeron is not
[19:03] <OldSpice> jack_sparrow: you mean backing up my windows portion along with my document? or only ubuntu?
[19:03] <Phusion> yeah I know, he said 845
[19:03] <YeTr2> 845 isn't that bad if you have enough power behind it.
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: I dont care about windows...  :)   but at least your ubuntu
[19:03] <Slart> OldSpice: copy = ctrl+alt+c, paste ctrl+alt+v
[19:03] <wols> Phusion: intel 845 is no graphics chipset but a P4 chipset. there might be a 845G but there are versions without inbuilt graphics too
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > OldSpice
[19:03] <anton_> Hey, how to update wine? I have 0.9.46 and want to get 0.9.51...
[19:03] <nickrud> OldSpice, sure back up your windows partition, someday it'll be a collectors item :)
[19:03] <lastelement1> what software would be best to burn an iso file?
[19:04] <wols> hiddenghost: why do you want a new videocard?
[19:04] <Phusion> wols: ahh, I figured as much, think maybe he's got something else?
[19:04] <OldSpice> nickrud: lol
[19:04] <Slart> OldSpice: sorry.. ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> anton_: and what is in 9.51 that is different that you just MUST have?
[19:04] <hiddenghost> wols: I don't know if I want a new video card yet.
[19:04] <Phusion> hehe
[19:04] <hiddenghost> wols: I use blender 3d
[19:04] <anton_> Jack_Sparrow: Bug fixes?
[19:04] <wols> hiddenghost: probably not worth the expenditure with a system that old
[19:04] <anton_> Why wouldn't I use the latest version?
[19:04] <wols> hiddenghost: so what chipset do you use?
[19:05] <lastelement1> what software can i use to burn an iso file?
[19:05] <profanephobia> i need help setting up dual monitor on a ati card with a resolution of (1366 by 768)
[19:05] <wols> lastelement1: k3b or gnomebaker
[19:05] <tacone> !backup > tacone
[19:05] <robdig> lastelement1: just right click on it and select write to disk
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> anton_: Good luck...  that isnt anything I can help with.
[19:05] <OldSpice> slart: thank you, i was using ctrl+c & v only.
[19:05] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: #winehq now refuses to help unless you are on latest
[19:05] <wols> !ask | profanephobia
[19:05] <ubotu> profanephobia: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:05] <lastelement1> wols would i be able to make it bootable?
[19:05] <profanephobia> wols, i didnt ask to ask a question bub
[19:05] <wols> lastelement1: yes but that depends on the ISO. not issue with what brun program you use
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: YOu really dont want my opinion on Wine and running windows apps with it..
[19:05] <white_eagle> lolz
[19:06] <white_eagle> how dumb
[19:06] <ip00n3> /server irc.dark-future.org
[19:06] <ip00n3> wtf
[19:06] <genii> anton_: the wine web page usually has latest deb for ubuntu
[19:06] <ip00n3> /server
[19:06] <ip00n3> hmm
[19:06] <wols> profanephobia: don't call me bub. you did implictly by not asking any sort of useful question. repeatedly. now have a nice day and solve your own problems
[19:06] <Slart> OldSpice: yup.. I guess they didn't want to interfere with ctrl-c  =)
[19:06] <hiddenghost> wols: sorry for my confusion. what do you mean chip set? I stated that I have intel 845
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ip00n3: Avoid the WTx if you dont mind
[19:06] <profanephobia> wols, you need to clam down..
[19:06] <tim167> how can i transcode from an AVI to an OGG video file ?
[19:06] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Well, perhaps not :) But it's hard as i said for users to get help with it when they only support versions later than what come packaged
[19:07] <profanephobia> wols, calm*
[19:07] <wols> hiddenghost: ok, that's a chipset. the chipset is quite old and still uses SDR RAM. unlikely any videocard ugprade will help much
[19:07] <root_> hey i was in earlier with a dead hd partition
[19:07] <rakyr> !dvd | raky
[19:07] <ubotu> raky: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: then THEY should tell people how to update...
[19:07] <cyka^> i've found that mtab don't have an entry for sda1
[19:07] <cyka^> what do i put in mtab
[19:07] <cyka^> ?
[19:07] <wols> cyka^: that means sda1 is not mounted
[19:08] <hiddenghost> wols: ok, thanks. so cpu/motherboard replacement is due then?
[19:08] <wols> cyka^: you don't put anything ever in mtab. you edit fstab
[19:08] <Slart> mtab?
[19:08] <cyka^> i try to mount it n it says ntfs has inconsitancies
[19:08] <Phusion> hiddenghost: probably a good idea if you want to do 3d graphics
[19:08] <wols> hiddenghost: and harddisk and memory and probably even case. pretty much buy a new computer if you want something faster. sorry
[19:08] <wols> cyka^: then chkdsk it in windows first
[19:09] <cyka^> urgh!!
[19:09] <wols> Slart: mtab is a file where the system keeps tabs on what is mounted right now
[19:09] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I was already considering it, but thought I would try to fix what I have first.
[19:09] <cyka^> means i have to get the wretched XXP disjk out
[19:09] <Slart> wols: oh.. thanks
[19:09] <|stalker|> Дарова
[19:09] <wols> cyka^: build a BartPE liveCD. useful that
[19:09] <Phusion> hiddenghost: yeah, understandible
[19:10] <hiddenghost> wols: I was having zbuffer problems. My 3d graphics run pretty good.
[19:10] <cyka^> ok
[19:10] <cyka^> bbs
[19:10] <wols> !ru | |stalker|
[19:10] <ubotu> |stalker|: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:10] <wols> hiddenghost: what videocard do you have?
[19:10] <serres20> hi guys
[19:10] <serres20> kserete pou mporo na rotiso gia assembly
[19:10] <serres20> !
[19:10] <jonathan_> Anyone know if there is a version of amarok 1.4.8 for gnome?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: What do you mean.. this is an english only channel..  Sorry couldnt resist
[19:11] <serres20> eimai skrapas kai xreiazomai epeigontos voeitheia
[19:11] <Ttech> What is the ocmmand to reinstall and app with apt?
[19:11] <jonathan_> serres20, !english
[19:11] <solaries> has anybody managed to get the avahi daemon working in gutsy?
[19:11] <Ttech> !english serres20
[19:11] <serres20> hi guys can anyone help me with assembly
[19:11] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: where did I talk anything but english? you have to ban ubotu. that one talks all day in all kinds of languages!
[19:11] <tacone> !english | serres20
[19:11] <ubotu> serres20: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:11] <solaries> When starting avahi I always get :"Failed to create server: No suitable network protocol available"
[19:11] <wols> serres20: that's no ubuntu support problem I'd say. so no
[19:11] <acee1234> in running kubuntu 7.10 and my system is running real slow and sound is choppy any ideas? i would ask kubuntu channel but no one offered any ideas
[19:11] <wols> serres20: unless you need help installing an assembler
[19:11] <serres20> can anyone help me with assembly
[19:12] <profobofucho> hello, how can i disable autoremove? WHY can't I decide what to do with my packages?, if something is goin to brake, then let it brake, give then the possibility of autoremoving it as a separate feature....!!!!
[19:12] <wols> acee1234: run rop. any processhogging the cpu?
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I was refering to earlier.. where the guy went off on you for requesting he speak the language of this channel
[19:12] <rudihawk> how much ram do u have ace?
[19:12] <wols> serres20: you are OT
[19:12] <serres20> can you tell me in which channel to look
[19:12] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: I know. but U never spoke anything but english. as I said: speak with ubotu :P
[19:12] <null_> Question:  I'm having trouble with "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM" under "Load installer components from CD", could it be because of my Adaptec SCSI Card 29160?  Tried X/K/Ubuntu 6.10, 7.10
[19:12] <wols> serres20: maybe there is #asm or such
[19:12] <null_> Both live and alternate install CD's
[19:12] <tacone> serres20: ##asm ?
[19:13] <Slart> jonathan: go with the one in the repos.. it works on gnome too, it brings in some kde-libs with it
[19:13] <serres20> cause there isn't anything similar
[19:13] <profobofucho>  hello, how can i disable autoremove? WHY can't I decide what to do with my packages?, if something is goin to brake, then let it brake, give then the possibility of autoremoving  as a separate feature....!!!!
[19:13] <Tomterer> how do I do a hotplug disk in feisty? fstab doesn't like it when add "hotplug" as an option.
[19:13] <tacone> serres20: ##asm exists
[19:13] <serres20> can anyone tell me in which channel can i ask for assembly
[19:14] <Phusion> #ASM
[19:14] <dsvick> hey everyone, I've got a question
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: did you burn those cd's yourself?
[19:14] <acee1234> wols: sudo rop. does nothing
[19:14] <tacone> !ask dsvick
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask dsvick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <Phusion> dsvick: instead of that, how about the question
[19:14] <dsvick> without starting an editor war
[19:14] <bc9405> I've set Power Mangement options in Gutsy to not dim my laptop screen regardless of AC or Battery power. Still...the screen dim's on battery power. How can I fix this?
[19:14] <Ttech> null_, YOu have t to do kisk check
[19:14] <tacone> !ask | dsvick
[19:14] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, but they've installed on dozens of other matchines
[19:14] <ubotu> dsvick: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:14] <thefirstdude> weh installing updates, I get an error when it tries to install network-manager
[19:14] <thefirstdude> does anyone know what that's all about
[19:14] <null_> Ttech, just burned a fresh copy at 4x and got the same error 10 minutes ago
[19:14] <Phusion> thefirstdude: whats the error?
[19:14] <Ttech> null_, Check Disk
[19:14] <wols> acee1234: sorry. use "top"
[19:14] <Ttech> How do you reinstall an app using apt?
[19:15] <dsvick> I've got gedit and want to change some of the syntax highlight settings, I've seen a "syntax highlighting" tab in examples on the web
[19:15] <thefirstdude> Phusion, it doesn't give me any damn details
[19:15] <dsvick> but do not have it on my version
[19:15] <thefirstdude> it just forces me to restart the computer
[19:15] <wols> Ttech: --reinstall
[19:15] <Ttech> :P ROFL
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: Other than obvious scratches...  I have had to take the same cd's and burn them at a very slow speed, especially for my dells...  but yes your scsi may be the problem as well
[19:15] <Ttech> By bad. Thansk wols
[19:15] <null_> Ttech, doing it now, I didn't troubleshoot the CDROM yet...
[19:15] <profobofucho> well, then there is not a way of disabling autoremove?
[19:15] <OldSpice> What program do you lads use to play your .mp3 files? Will Winamp work on ubuntu?
[19:15] <dsvick> I've seen posts to forums saying that it got removed in errror and was to get put back but have not been able fnd antythng on getting it back
[19:15] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, dur packagez.gz failed md5, lolz
[19:15] <thefirstdude> at the end it says like "failed to install: network manager", and everything freezes and the keyboard stops working
[19:15] <rudihawk> oldspice - i use rythembox
[19:16] <tacone> dsvick: which version of ubuntu / gedit you're on ?
[19:16] <rudihawk> but you have to install mp3 codecs
[19:16] <Ttech> profobofucho, Why would you want to disable autoremove?
[19:16] <Phusion> OldSpice: the most Winamp like player is xmms
[19:16] <profobofucho> becouse i want to do what I want to do with my packages, not stupid autoremove
[19:16] <thefirstdude> anyway, can I go somewhere and tell it to stop trying to isntall network manager?
[19:16] <Phusion> OldSpice: sudo apt-get install xmms  should do it
[19:16] <profobofucho> becouse i want to do what I want to do with my packages, not stupid autoremove, Ttech
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: Is the cdr on the scsi as well?
[19:16] <thefirstdude> there should be a file that tells apt-get that network manager still needs to be installed?
[19:16] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, no
[19:16] <thefirstdude> does anyone know where it is
[19:17] <dsvick> gedit 2.20.3, ubuntu 7.10
[19:17] <OldSpice> phusion: thanks! would you also know how to get rid of those beeps that are INSIDE my computer? for example, trying to press backspace when i can backspace no more, it goes beep beep beep
[19:17] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, actually, I don't think so.. i haven't opened it up yet, but the pics from the ebay auction don't show it
[19:17] <Phusion> haha the beeps that live in your computer
[19:17] <rudihawk> ditto that, - thanks oldspice
[19:17] <Phusion> OldSpice: that's what's called PC Speaker
[19:17] <acee1234> wols: thats odd it was compiz
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: Can you try a different reader and does the cd self test without errors/?
[19:17] <Phusion> OldSpice: don't backspace so much :P
[19:17] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, that's what I plan on doing
[19:17] <LetterRip_> Has 'temperature aware operating system scheduling' been implemented into Ubuntu?
[19:17] <LetterRip_> http://www.scribd.com/doc/53025/TemperatureAware-Operating-System-Scheduling-Thesis
[19:17] <OldSpice> phusion: so can't get rid of those annoying sounds? :[
[19:17] <Ttech> profobofucho, AutoRemove is to remove junk that was reqired to install somethign that you removed!
[19:18] <tacone> OldSpice: if you are using the window terminal go in edit->current profile
[19:18] <acee1234> acee1234: it was set t be transperent when not rotating and disabling that fixed it
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: Sorry I dont have a better answer...
[19:18] <Phusion> OldSpice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320921
[19:18] <Ttech> LetterRip_, Good question
[19:18] <profobofucho> i know exactly what autoremove is, i want it off, Ttech
[19:18] <sorous1> hi, i have another version of linux on my system and i wanna uninstal to use my ubuntu from now on
[19:18] <null_> Jack_Sparrow, that's okay, I didn't expect anyone in #ubuntu to be able to help with a scsi card troubleshooting
[19:18] <acee1234> acee1234: what i dont get was my cpu was at 57%
[19:18] <Ttech> profobofucho, You know you can just ignore it?
[19:18] <sorous1> i think i should update my grub
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> null_: Moral support helps too,
[19:18] <null_> yep
[19:18] <Phusion> OldSpice: Add this to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: blacklist pcspkr
[19:18] <rudihawk> Acee1234 how much RAM do u have?
[19:18] <velko> profobofucho, a package can be (auto)removed for two reasons: 1. it depends on some other package which you want to remove (and can't work without this package) or 2. it was installed automatically as a dependency for some other package. in the second case you can just install explicitly this package. to be able to to the first makes no sense
[19:18] <profobofucho> no, that's what im asking, Ttech, becouse in 7.10 it is A DEFAULT
[19:19] <Phusion> OldSpice: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:19] <acee1234> acee1234: 1GB
[19:19] <Ttech> profobofucho, No its not. Its still waiting for me to do autoremove?
[19:19] <Ttech> profobofucho, Apt- or syntapitic?
[19:19] <profobofucho> well, not for me... Ttech
[19:19] <sorous1> so i should run grub-install
[19:19] <rudihawk> hmmm, acee1234 thats odd
[19:19] <profobofucho> apt-get, Ttech
[19:19] <LetterRip_> Ttech - the user was able to throttle the CPU to 50% and still play a movie; whereas without the modification it was max throttling of 25% before he could playback the vid
[19:19] <askand> Can I check what batter I am using in ubuntu?
[19:19] <sorous1> but what should i set grub-shell?
[19:19] <acee1234> acee1234: something is sucking ram
[19:19] <sorous1> GRUB-SHELL
[19:19] <acee1234> acee1234: 800meg used and nothing major is running
[19:20] <rudihawk> acee1234, what are your visual settings?
[19:20] <Pici> askand: batter?
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sorous1: you can just format the other partiton and use it for /home if you dont already have a seperate /home... but careful about messing up grub in the process depending on how you have it setup now
[19:20] <rudihawk> are they on none?
[19:20] <acee1234> rudihawk: what do you mean
[19:20] <OldSpice> phusion: i dont think i understood that completely
[19:20] <profobofucho> velko, i know exactly what autoremove does, i just dont want it as a default, i want it as a separate feature
[19:21] <rudihawk> preferences>appearance>visual effects
[19:21] <acee1234> rudihawk: xgl is eating 366 megs
[19:21] <askand> Pici: sorry battery
[19:21] <profobofucho> velko, if i want something broke in my system, why should autoremove not let me have it?
[19:21] <Phusion> OldSpice: alright, you need to open up a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:21] <OldSpice> phusion: i did that command and i'm inside a blacklist menu i think, than i would just simply type in "blacklist pcspkr" than enter?
[19:21] <Phusion> OldSpice: add this line to the file: blacklist pcspkr
[19:21] <timnik> Anyone know what I must put into my /etc/network/interfaces so it has the same effect as "sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1"?
[19:21] <acee1234> rudihawk: running kde
[19:22] <Phusion> OldSpice: save, quit, reboot, should get rid of the beeps
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sorous1: are you trying to   grub repair   ?
[19:22] <rudihawk> acee1234, sorry mate...
[19:22] <velko> profobofucho, this is not the right place for such request. and beeing just emotional (speaking for the sake of speaking) on a technical support channel is rather confusing
[19:22] <thefirstdude> where does apt-get download files to before doing dpkg
[19:22] <Phusion> timnik: I can help you in a query
[19:22] <Pici> askand: For gnome there is a battery applet that you can set in your System>Preferences>Power, or on the command line you can cat one of the files in /proc/acpi/battery/
[19:22] <hiddenghost> wols: I took some time to look, now I'm in the terminal looking at my hardware information with out a clue of how to identify the video card.
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thefirstdude:   var/cache/apt/archives
[19:23] <timnik> Phusion, thanks
[19:23] <profobofucho> velko: what "such" question? i'm asking something really technical, i dont want autoremove in my system!!!!
[19:23] <OldSpice> phusion: how would i save this blacklist? i don't see save anywhere.
[19:23] <Phusion> timnik: check pribmsg
[19:23] <Phusion> OldSpice: ctrl x
[19:23] <Phusion> OldSpice: then hit Y
[19:23] <velko> profobofucho, i don't think this is possible. this was hinted by my first answer. maybe someone else knows more than i do
[19:23] <OldSpice> phusion: thank you so much, let me try a reboot and see how it goes :]
[19:24] <soroush> Jack_Sparrow
[19:24] <profobofucho> velko: well then you shouldn't answer
[19:24] <soroush> really sorry
[19:24] <soroush> i got dc
[19:24] <thefirstdude> ok, so if I just delete network-manager.deb what will happen
[19:24]  * soroush bad net
[19:24] <askand> Pici:  thankyou
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sorous1: are you trying to   grub repair   ?
[19:24] <velko> profobofucho, a negative answer (this is not possible) is still a worth answer for those who are willing to listen :-P
[19:24] <soroush>  Jack_Sparrow, i installed suse today
[19:25] <soroush> but i want to throw it away
[19:25] <soroush> i installed ubuntu some days ago
[19:25] <robdig> profobofucho: perhaps you can do what you want with the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove? it has a section for never remove...
[19:25] <tifine> does anybody know how to mount an file.img  ?
[19:25] <profobofucho> velko: and i am, what i am not willing to listen is others saying my questions do not qualify in this channel without even understanding the question
[19:25] <profobofucho> robdig: thankyou very much!
[19:26] <soroush> tifine, mount file.img /here -o loo[
[19:26] <soroush> loop*
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush:  Ah...    If it were me.. I would backup my mbr with dd   I would backup my grub/boot/menu.lst    ..  one of many options would be.. cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/Desktop/menu.lst.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[19:26] <rudihawk> I have a small problem, i am running ati restricted drivers for my Radeon X550X, but when i try turn the visual effects on it says, "the composite extension is not available", any ideas?
[19:26] <robdig> profobofucho: np...hope it does what you want
[19:26] <seb|2017z> Hey. How do I get my DVD drive to auto mount? :/
[19:26] <tifine> soroush : error source file !
[19:26] <soroush> tifine, i donno
[19:27] <tifine> anybody else ?
[19:27] <soroush> Jack_Sparrow, thanks. what if it wasn't loaded?
[19:27] <Phusion> tifine: what kind of image is it?
[19:27] <velko> profobofucho, than i do appologize for not understanding your question and thinking you were just emotional about it
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: what wasnt loaded
[19:27] <tifine> phusion : it is file.img movie file ?
[19:27] <thefirstdude> can I post a 6 line error message I get from installing network-manager
[19:28] <robdig> !paste | thefirstdude
[19:28] <ubotu> thefirstdude: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:28] <Phusion> tifine: ok, so it's an iso of some kind
[19:29] <Phusion> tifine: ok, you need to create a directory to mount it on
[19:29] <lonejack> hi, problem installing phpmyadmin, installed apache2 and php5. Checked php with a test file phpinfo(). Problem, when I install phpmyadmin I expect the system put that sw under www direcoty. This doesn't happen? Have someone already did this?
[19:29] <tifine> phusion : it is just only  img file of 2.7GB
[19:29] <thefirstdude> ok, here is the error I get when apt-get tries to install network manager http://paste-it.net/5364
[19:29] <thefirstdude> please help me
[19:29] <wols> hiddenghost: lspci |grep -i cga
[19:29] <wols> hiddenghost: lspci |grep -i vga
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: There are others better at tis, but I would boot live, format the suse partition and repair grub.. but have those backup files handy in your email account or wherever for reference...  a copy of fdisk would also help people help ou..  sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[19:29] <thefirstdude> it makes no sense to me
[19:29] <Phusion> !piracy > tifine
[19:29] <thefirstdude> hopefully someone can help
[19:30] <tifine> phusion: nope :p
[19:30] <jeff__> hi
[19:30] <Phusion> well CDROM's are 750MBs, so thats a DVD img of some kind, not sure.
[19:30] <alain> guys how can i exit xserver and go to the cmd line
[19:30] <rudihawk> I have a small problem, i am running ati restricted drivers for my Radeon X550X, but when i try turn the visual effects on it says, "the composite extension is not available", any ideas?
[19:30] <tifine> phusion: tell me the command !
[19:30] <hiddenghost> wols: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[19:30] <jeff__> hey guys hw do i install any software ubuntu
[19:31] <crdlb> rudihawk: when using the restricted driver, you just use Xgl to make compiz work
[19:31] <nickrud> rudihawk, install xserver-xgl , log out and back in. ati doesn't have the aiglx stuff, so you need that special server
[19:31] <crdlb> rudihawk: because the restricted driver is terrible
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff__: synaptic ... apt-get... aptitude
[19:31] <wols> hiddenghost: ok, then a very low end videocard might help. something in the 30$ range
[19:31] <rudihawk> thanks
[19:31] <tifine> phusion:  its done thnxs
[19:31] <soroush> have i missed anything ?
[19:31] <hiddenghost> wols: that sounds good
[19:31] <robdig> alain: ctrl+alt+f1 will get you to a console, ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back to X
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: There are others better at tis, but I would boot live, format the suse partition and repair grub.. but have those backup files handy in your email account or wherever for reference...  a copy of fdisk would also help people help ou..  sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[19:31] <nickrud> crdlb, it's not terrible, only crappy :)
[19:32] <tacone> alain: ctr+alt+f1 shuold take you to the command line, then you can close xserver by a command or killing it
[19:32] <brophat> what program is the file browser that ubuntu uses?
[19:32] <nickrud> brophat, nautilus
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> brophat:  nautilus
[19:32] <PaulyHog> hello i was wondering if somneone could help me please
[19:32] <hiddenghost> wols: should that help the zbuffer problem?
[19:33] <alain> tacone: i tried that but it just give me a blinking cursor and i cant type anything
[19:33] <robdig> PaulyHog: ask your question and we will all find out...
[19:33] <soroush> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, my suse is on /dev/sda9--- how should i format it?
[19:33] <Phusion> hiddenghost: any newer graphics card you buy will probably help
[19:33] <tacone> alain: what about ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: gparted
[19:33] <alain> same
[19:33] <PaulyHog> ok, i have just installed ubuntu to the hard drive, but it doesnt load the gui by default, is there a command to load it or have i installed it wrong
[19:33] <soroush> and then how should i run grub-install
[19:33] <soroush> my ubuntu is on sda7
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: Do you only have one drive in the system
[19:34] <hiddenghost> Phusion: ok, then that's that. new graphics card it is.
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: Is the suse already an ext3?
[19:34] <tacone> alain: strange, how did you boot ubuntu ?
[19:34] <soroush> i have one sata
[19:34] <soroush> winxp/suse/ubunt
[19:34] <soroush> u
[19:34] <rudihawk> this might be a dumb thing to ask, but how do i get, xserver-xgl?
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: are you in ubuntu now?
[19:34] <hiddenghost> Thanks Phusion and wols. Your a big help.
[19:35] <illusion-1> hello i have problem with compileing pidgin
[19:35] <Phusion> no problem
[19:35] <illusion-1> i get this log
[19:35] <pike_> PaulyHog: probably a problem with driver try 1) alt-ctrl-f2  2) login  3) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and choose vesa driver and enter for defaults on everything else  4) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:35] <illusion-1> warning: failed to load external entity "doxy2devhelp.xsl"
[19:35] <Rada> Hi, I've just done a reboot as the system update thingy asked me to, and now grub says "Error 17: Unable to mount filesystem" or something like that.
[19:35] <Rada> I've tried to check if the UUID's in my fstab end grub menu.lst are right, and they are.
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> soroush: I have parts joins turned off, so I cant tell when you lose connection
[19:36] <Shadow147> how can I fix this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw
[19:36] <PaulyHog> pike: cheers i will have a go
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> illusion-1: Are you running gutsy?
[19:36] <gorillino> ciao a tutti
[19:36] <Pici> !it | gorillino
[19:36] <ubotu> gorillino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:36] <komputes> what is the option for scp not to overwrite existing files in the target directory??
[19:36] <rudihawk> this might be a dumb thing to ask, but how do i get, xserver-xgl?
[19:37] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[19:37] <DarkSpirit221> Is there any good screen recorder for linux?
[19:37] <nickrud> rudihawk,   sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl , or you can search (ctl-f) for it in synaptic
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> illusion-1: Just checking, it came with pidgin but you obvioulsy want a newer version...
[19:37] <rudihawk> thanks nickrud
[19:37] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[19:37] <pike_> !screencast | DarkSpirit221
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > illusion-1
[19:37] <ubotu> DarkSpirit221: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[19:37] <gorillino_> ciao
[19:38] <DarkSpirit221> pike_: Thanks
[19:38] <Rada> komputes: try -i
[19:38] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, im compile this message is from compile
[19:38] <Shadow147> how can I fix this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw??
[19:38] <rudihawk> =]
[19:38] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, this message is from dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[19:38] <bulmer> Shadow147-> i assume that library does not exist, so you need to download it
[19:38] <nickrud> lonejack, when you install phpmyadmin, did you tell it to configure for apache2?
[19:39] <loucas> i need help please?someone to help?
[19:39] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, i whant to build deb for pidgin 2.3.1
[19:39] <PaulyHog> pike_ i tried that and i get "xserver-xorg is not installed no info is available :(
[19:39] <neverblue> loucas, what do you specilize in?
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> illusion-1: I am busy elsewhere sorry
[19:39] <komputes> DarkSpirit221: istambul, check it in add/remove
[19:40] <loucas> i have a big problem in my sound device
[19:40] <Shadow147> bulmer but what libaray
[19:40] <proprietarysucks> does ubuntu have a way to set the system to be setup on next boot?
[19:40] <illusion-1> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[19:40] <Shadow147> library*
[19:40] <nickrud> Shadow147, install libxaw7-dev I think
[19:40] <neverblue> oh, I thought you wanted to help someone, not 'seeking your own help' :)
[19:40] <pike_> Shadow147: try grabbing the libxtst headers
[19:40] <Shadow147> ok
[19:40] <Phusion> has anyone tried the latest Firefox 3 beta?
[19:40] <proprietarysucks> such as some kind of unconfigured file or whatever
[19:40] <neverblue> loucas, how about you start by describing the problem ?
[19:40] <rudihawk> nickrud, thanks! :) problem solved
[19:40] <bulmer> Shadow147-> umm libXaw.so ?
[19:40] <pike_> PaulyHog: you did server install?
[19:41] <nickrud> rudihawk, yw
[19:41] <PaulyHog> i installed it like it asked me to
[19:41] <nickweb> anyone any good with sound? my pc has a built in speaker, and audio jacks on the front and rear. When the rear is plugged in, the internal speaker stops, however, on ubuntu, i have my jack plugged into the rear, but it still plays through the internal speaker.. any ideas?
[19:41] <pike_> PaulyHog: what kind of gui do you want? default gnome? how much ram do you have?
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> so that when the os boots it asks you for information about your software sources and stuff?
[19:41] <rudihawk> nickrud, pardon?
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> anyone?
[19:41] <loucas> i have an intel965 graphic cart i cannot to enable  effects and no sound at all
[19:41] <nickrud> rudihawk, you're welcome :)
[19:41] <Pici> proprietarysucks: Like a 'reset to defaults'?
[19:41] <rudihawk> nickrud, oh :8 my bad
[19:41] <PaulyHog> pike_ i just want the default one gnome is it? 512mb ram i have
[19:41] <rudihawk> =0
[19:41] <brobostigon> good evening
[19:41] <dsvick> Hi all, I'd like to ask this without starting an editor war
[19:41] <dsvick> I'm using Ubuntu 7.1 (Gutsy) and have Gedit 2.20.3 and would like to change the syntax highlighting settings
[19:41] <dsvick> I've seen a "syntax highlighting" tab in the preferences dialog in examples on the web but do not have it on my version
[19:41] <dsvick> I've seen posts to forums saying that it got removed in error and was to get put back but have not been able find anything
[19:41] <Scusio> i got a problem with my livecd...after a while when the livecd doens't start i get an error saying the display server has been shut down 6 times in the last 2 minutes. probably something bad is going on.
[19:41] <dsvick> that says it was ever actually corrected, does anyone know anything about this?
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> Pici: yes that would work too
[19:42] <pike_> PaulyHog: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   does it say that is already installed?
[19:42] <Pici> proprietarysucks: No.
[19:42] <neverblue> loucas, what do you mean by no sound, what application are you running to 'listen', does your hardware work correctly?
[19:42] <Scusio> anyone knows whats wrong?
[19:42] <Pici> proprietarysucks: But if you are looking for a way to make an OEM install.. there are ways.
[19:42] <Shadow147> nickrud the libxaw7-dev also installs the libxaw headers
[19:42] <proprietarysucks> Pici: in redhat you can touch an unconfigured file and next time you boot it will ask you all about your network settings and everything like that
[19:42] <tacone> dsvick: view->highlight mode
[19:43] <bc9405> Nmap crashes when run as a regular user. Root has no problem. What can I do to allow regular users access to Nmap?
[19:43] <fifafrazer> dsvick, I have syntax highlighting in gedit 2.20.3
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> Pici: i want the user to have to select their software sources at first boot, is that possible?
[19:43] <PaulyHog> pike_ i get "E: couldnt find package ubuntu-desktop
[19:43] <Scusio> im in my main terminal now
[19:43] <Shadow147> nickrud the libxaw7-dev and libxaw headers fixed the problem
[19:43] <Pici> proprietarysucks: it might with some of the OEM options.. let me have the bot give you some links
[19:43] <tacone> PaulyHog: have you run sudo apt-get update ?
[19:43] <fifafrazer> dsvick, menubar -> view -> Highlight mode
[19:43] <Pici> !oem > proprietarysucks (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> alright thanks
[19:43] <Scusio> sudo apt-get update
[19:43] <Scusio> >.<
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> got no msges
[19:44] <Pici> !test
[19:44] <ubotu> Failed.
[19:44] <fifafrazer> isn't it the same on your system dsvick
[19:44]  * neverblue tests Pici
[19:44] <Pici> proprietarysucks: You should have gotten a private message from ubotu
[19:44] <tacone> Pici: guess ">" dont' work
[19:44] <Scusio> is there any command to install ubuntu without the interface
[19:44] <Pici> tacone: It should.
[19:44] <proprietarysucks> try to yourself
[19:44] <Pici> !oem | proprietarysucks
[19:44] <ubotu> proprietarysucks: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[19:44] <lonejack> nickrud, yes I did. Before I started installing Apache2(OK), then PHP5(ok), now, I was expecting to see under www dir phpmyadmin, this didn't happen, is it correct? If the answer is yes, what is the address to launch phpmyadmin? Under windows I put all under localhost. In this case the installation was done under /etc/phpmyadmin and /usr/share. Is it correct?
[19:44] <Scusio> aw
[19:44] <tacone> Pici: would you try with me ?
[19:44] <dsvick> view -> highlight mode has an appropriate file type selected
[19:44] <Pici> !test > tacone (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:44] <Geoffrey2> if I'm trying to adjust my screen resolution, how many different places do I need to make adjustments?  I have an ATI x1250 video chip....
[19:45] <Pici> tacone: it should say 'failed'
[19:45] <dsvick> it is the tab in the preferences dialog that is gone
[19:45] <tacone> Pici: yes works
[19:45] <sorous1> grub-install --root-directory=/boot --grub-shell=whichFile?
[19:45] <nickrud> lonejack, yes , localhost/phpmyadmin , yes :)
[19:45] <proprietarysucks> wth? how am i not getting msgs
[19:45] <sebastian> hola
[19:45] <Pici> proprietarysucks: I'm not sure. Just read what the bot said to you in channel above.
[19:45] <Ubuntubruger3> !topic
[19:45] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[19:45] <Rada> Hi, I've just done a reboot as the system update thingy asked me to, and now grub says "Error 17: Unable to mount filesystem" or something like that.
[19:45] <komputes> Rada: why is using -i giving me a key error and asking me for a password for a file?
[19:46] <sebastian> como estan
[19:46] <Pici> !es | sebastian
[19:46] <ubotu> sebastian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:46] <Rada> komputes: Oh, sorry. I was hoping it would have same effect as in cp.
[19:46] <soroush> grub-install --root-directory=/boot --grub-shell=whichFile?
[19:46] <Scusio> is there any command to install ubuntu without the normal live cd interface
[19:46] <Rada> komputes: Anyway, use rsync
[19:46] <Phusion> sebastian: /join #ubuntu-es for espanol
[19:46] <lonejack> nickrud, I try to re-install
[19:46] <Rada> soroush: for me?
, the syntax highlighting works, i just cant change the setting in the preferences
[19:47] <PaulyHog> pike_ i get "E: couldnt find package ubuntu-desktop
[19:47] <scragar> Scusio: there's a command line installer(see alternate CD), and I think the liveCD for 7.10 comes with a command line installer as well, can't be sure about that though
[19:47] <dsvick> anyone know if there is there a config file I could edit manually?
[19:47] <brophat> anyone know where nautilus keeps all of its thumbnails?
[19:47] <scaldov> hey people, what about mouse-over unhide of the left panel in gnome+compiz?
[19:47] <ip00n> OMFG WHY IS MY PENDRIVE NOT NOTICED!?
[19:47] <Rada> dsvick: You can edit all config files manually...
[19:47] <atoponce> hardy heron won't be an lts release?
[19:47] <Pici> !caps | ip00n
[19:47] <ip00n> when i plug it in, nothing happens!!
[19:47] <ubotu> ip00n: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:47] <ip00n> sorry
[19:47] <nickrud> lonejack, if you look under /etc/apache2/conf.d , you'll see a link to the phpmyadmin config, that will feed it properly to you
[19:47] <Rada> !repeat
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[19:47] <Pici> atoponce: Huh? Where did you hear that?
[19:48] <Ubuntubruger3> ok... dont know for how long the flash have not worked since i am a new user... can anyone tell?
[19:48] <pike_> PaulyHog: im not sure why you are getting that do this 'lsb-release -a' what does this say?
[19:48] <Rada> I guess I shouldn't repeat again, then
[19:48] <SpookyET> BMPx is pretty nice. I think it has the best last.fm integration out of all the players i've tried.
[19:48] <atoponce> Pici: http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.12.20/kubuntu-804-featuring-kde-4/
[19:48] <dsvick> Rada: maybe I'll try that then, be easier to use the dialog though if it worked
[19:48] <pike_> PaulyHog: er lsb_release -a
[19:48] <fifafrazer> dsvick, oh.. I see.. I misunderstood :)
[19:48] <Rada> dsvick: Dunno, rsync is pretty straight forward if you feel comfortable enough in the shell.
[19:48] <Rada> Grub, on the other hand, is an entirely different beast.
[19:48] <Pici> atoponce: I suspect that Kubuntu wont be LTS, but Ubuntu will.  Perhaps #kubuntu has more info.
[19:49] <Pici> atoponce: Also, thanks for you blog post about the irssi aliases, I use them daily.
[19:49] <nickrud> atoponce, that's for the kubuntu, desktop, not the guts
[19:49] <atoponce> nickrud: what?
[19:49] <scragar> dsvick: Gedit config ==> ~/.gconf/apps/gedit-2
[19:49] <pike_> PaulyHog: what version?
[19:49] <dsvick> fifafrazer: no problem, any thoughts?
[19:49] <atoponce> Pici: np. :)
[19:50] <nickrud> atoponce, um, same as what Pici said, the kde desktop, not the gnome desktop or server
[19:50] <fifafrazer> not really
[19:50] <nixternal> atoponce: Kubuntu Hardy Heron won't be LTS, the rest will be
[19:50] <atoponce> nickrud: (and Pici ) that doesn't make sense, to me anyway. kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde. so how could ubuntu be lts an kubuntu not?
[19:50] <PaulyHog> pike_ it says no lsb modules found, v6,10
[19:50] <atoponce> nixternal: when will the next kubuntu be lts?
[19:51] <nickrud> atoponce, as I understand it, canonical stands behind ubuntu, while the motus have kubuntu
[19:51] <nixternal> 2 years I guess, but that is up to Canonical and the Technical Board
[19:51] <dsvick> scragar: I'm new at Ubuntu, where would that be, starting in my home folder?
[19:51] <Phusion> me, I'm waiting on Jewbuntu with a full copy of the tora
[19:51] <atoponce> nixternal: but, dapper kubuntu was lts?
[19:51]  * Phusion ducks
[19:51] <nixternal> correct
[19:51] <Ubuntubruger3> Is it normally enough to install the "flashplugin-nonfree" to make flash work properly????
[19:51] <scragar> dsvick: ~/ is your home folder, the .gconf file is hidden, so you'll need to show hidden files.
[19:51] <nickrud> Aondo, but nixternal knows better than I
[19:51] <pike_> PaulyHog: id recommend downloading the 7.10 iso and installing that
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: see topic
[19:52] <Phusion> Ubuntubruger3: if you visit a page that requires flash in firefox, it will install it if you click the Install Missing Plugins
[19:52] <lonejack> nickrud, do you mean /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Flash is BROKEN
[19:52]  * sorous1 i get dc in the middle of talk . ugh
[19:52] <Phusion> there's a mozilla-gnash plugin that works :/
[19:52] <Phusion> use gnash
[19:52] <PaulyHog> pike_ ok i will try that then, thank you for your help thus far
[19:52] <tacone> atoponce: I guess they're doing to focus and speed up the adoption of kde4
[19:52] <Ubuntubruger3> ok... for how long how the flash not been functioning?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: comming up on two weeks
[19:53] <nickrud> lonejack, no, the real work is in /etc/apache2/conf.d , that is where packages can drop apache configuration snippets that will be integrated into an http.conf automagically
[19:53] <dsvick> scragar: ok, let me take a look
[19:53] <sorous1> Rada, missed anything. i want an expert to confirm my cmd
[19:53] <sorous1> i understand how risky my work is
[19:54] <Ubuntubruger3> ok thanks... does anyone know when it wiil be up again?
[19:54] <brophat> I don't have permision to go into /lost+found
[19:54] <Rem> Hello! Can i ask a question please?
[19:54] <Rada> sorous1: Make a copy of your file tree(s) and test it.
[19:54] <brophat> and when I go "sudo cd lost+found" it says does not know the command
[19:54] <nickrud> brophat, sudo -i , then you can cd into lost+found
[19:54] <tacone> !ask | Rem
[19:54] <sorous1> ?
[19:54] <ubotu> Rem: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:54] <brophat> ahh ok
[19:54] <brophat> nickrud why -i?
[19:55] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow: Do you know when flash is to be working again?
[19:55] <RealTe1> Is there a way to back up all the packages in synaptic?
[19:55] <sorous1> Rada, my file trees
[19:55] <wols> sorous1: doy ou have a separate /boot partition?
[19:55] <Rada> sorous1: your folders with files.
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > RealTe1
[19:55] <nickrud> brophat, to ensure you are using /root as your home dir, rather than /home/<you> . you can mess up config files if not careful that way
[19:55] <brophat> hmm ok
[19:55] <RealTe1> !automate
[19:55] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[19:55] <Dombre> hello how do I connect to a remote machine?
[19:56] <Rem> Is there some place where I can download a full version of Ubuntu so that my harddrive is totally erased with the install of the new Ubuntu OS ?
[19:56] <wols> Dombre: depends on the protocol
[19:56] <brophat> nickrud do you know here nautilus keeps their thumbnails?
[19:56] <Dombre> ssh
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> RealTe1: That is what you wanted to do ..correct?
[19:56] <nickrud> brophat, it can be iluminating to do :  sudo -i , then env  , then sudo -s , then env ;
[19:56] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow: Do you know when flash is to be working again?
[19:56] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: I suppose.
[19:56] <brophat> nickrud I am gonna check out the manpage for sudo
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: no one knows for sure.. thaey have it working for firefox but not opera and whatever..
[19:57] <nickrud> brophat, i think it's just .thumbnails
[19:57] <Rem> I would like to have my harddrive empty after install of Ubuntu
[19:57] <brophat> I am still tyring to decide if I like having to always type sudo, as apposed to just su
[19:57] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow: ...but I am using Firefox???
[19:57] <brophat> su'ing into root
[19:57] <soroush> back again, last message i had was:
[19:57] <Rem> Does anyone know?
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: The problem is.. if you use the workaround, you may have a mess when the real fix comes down
[19:57] <robdig> Rem: download it from www.ubuntu.com. you will have the option to erase (format) your hard drive when you decide to install.
[19:57] <soroush> (11:25:26 PM) sorous1: all is on /
[19:57] <soroush> (11:25:31 PM) sorous1: partition
[19:57] <Dombre> wols: I told my friend to enable remote desktop and had her install ssh, when I try the vncveiwer command and input her ip nothing happens.
[19:57] <nickrud> brophat, good reading. I'd started using sudo a very long time ago after doing a recursive remove as root. I lost track of what term I was in.
[19:58] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow: OK, so I should wait...
[19:58] <wols> Dombre: rdesktop
[19:58] <wols> Dombre: no ssh needed for remote desktop on windwso
[19:58] <robdig> Rem: but you don't have to erase or format it
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: The best choice.. yes
[19:58] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow: Thanks for your patience
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:58] <brophat> nickrud haha ok ic, but on a daily basis it is kind of a pain not being able to have a root window, in fact it is a big pain
[19:59] <Rem> Actually i dont get that option. I only get a install from cd where my original os still remains on the computer
[19:59] <Ubuntubruger3> !topic
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[19:59] <Dombre> wols we both have ubuntu box's.
[19:59] <wols> Dombre: is your friend behind a router?
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntubruger3: If you want to do a full backup and understand the concequences... you can do the workaround
[19:59] <Dombre> yes
[19:59] <robdig> Rem: yes, and then burn it and install from it :)
[19:59] <wols> Dombre: then he need to port forward. port 22/tcp for ssh and port 5900/tcp for vnc
[19:59] <soroush> wols, don't you have any idea about grub-shell?
[19:59] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow:  Heya, anyone upgrade to the 2.6.22 kernel on Gutsy, it has caused a bit of a dilemma.  I tend to blame the kernel on all my problems because it's the most sophisticated element in the system, but Gutsy locks on logon, although it works fine in root(recovery)
[20:00] <timothyv491> hey everyone
[20:00] <pike_> Dombre: id go ahead and do like 5900-5902 for more room
[20:00] <oxxi> Hi everyone
[20:00] <Ubuntubruger3> Jack Sparrow.... nah.. not interested. Just installed ubuntu for the very first time a few days ago and though I was missing something in the installation procedure
[20:00] <wols> < wols> sorous1: do you have a separate /boot partition?
[20:00] <scragar> I have the .deb installer for the flash plug in(it's on one of my aptonCDs), would it be possible for other users to use it if I uploaded it as a temp fix?
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> RealTe1: Running feisty on this box
[20:00] <soroush> wols,no
[20:00] <wols> soroush: what is your /
[20:00] <soroush> wols, all are on partition /
[20:00] <soroush> / is /
[20:00] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: Could you still provide me some sort of assistance?
[20:00] <Holger> hi, does anyone know a tool like rsync, which will copy only the changed parts - to save bandwith - but between local drives. (using a file to store checksums or something like that)
[20:01] <wols>  / has a devicenode. which one?
[20:01] <lonejack> nickrud!!! I'm inside
[20:01] <Geoffrey2> in Screen and Graphics settings, when I try to test a resolution, the screen blanks, then I get basically a white and black background with my cursor being a black X, is that what it's supposed to do, or is that indicating a problem?
[20:01] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: anything advice, I'd really appreciate
[20:01] <oxxi> Hey there I have a prob. with installing flash on my ubuntu
[20:01] <TwigEther> Holger: you can rsync to local drives >_>
[20:01] <soroush> wols, / is /dev/ sda7
[20:01] <Rem> I have burned it but I dont get an option to format my harddrive.
[20:01] <timothyv491> guys: I'm trying to play a live stream that requires Quicktime (possibly the latest version-7) is there a way to get that? there's no downloads for i...
[20:01] <wols> soroush: grub-install /dev/hda7
[20:01] <scragar> oxxi: read the topic, flash isn't working atm
[20:01] <soroush> wols, will it do all
[20:01] <soroush> ?
[20:01] <Holger> TwigEther: I know.. but it does not do the bandwith saving part locally does it ?
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> RealTe1: I am a little under the weather to be troubleshooting something like that ...  I assume you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:02] <wols> sorry. grub-install /dev/sda
[20:02] <TwigEther> no idea.
[20:02] <lonejack> I had a problem, during apache restart I received " Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName", so I tried http://127.0.1.1/phpmyadmin/ !!!
[20:02] <Ubuntubruger3> !topic
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[20:02] <timothyv491> I'm trying to play a live stream that requires Quicktime (possibly the latest version-7) is there a way to get that? there's no downloads for it..
[20:02] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: hmmmm, Good point, any other suggestions ?
[20:02] <Rem> The Ubuntu does not get installed in such a way that microsoft windows do.
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RealTe1: Look for errors in dmesg etc?
[20:03] <lonejack> nickrud, I had a problem, during apache restart I received " Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName", so I tried http://127.0.1.1/phpmyadmin/ !!!
[20:03] <wols> lonejack: I am sure it's no 172.0.1.1. if anything it's 127.0.0.1. set your proper hostname and reverse dns
[20:03] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: How do I do that?
[20:03] <Holger> TwigEther: I dont think it does. It does not save any extra info on the files - so it needs to read the files interely to know the difference.. and therefore just copies them (after looking at the timestamp to see if the dest is older)
[20:03] <pofuk> m
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RealTe1: man dmesg   I think will show you
[20:03] <RealTe1> Jack_Sparrow: alighty
[20:04] <timothyv491> I'm trying to play a live stream that requires Quicktime (possibly the latest version-7) is there a way to get that? there's no downloads for it..
[20:04] <Vinno> Can someone ssh to home.vinno.net port 1984 please, wanna check if my firewall and portforwarding is right
[20:04] <Dombre> thanks wols
[20:05] <Amaranth> If anyone is getting weird private messages let me know.
[20:06] <lonejack> nickrud, wols, thank you guys! Saved many hours, I hope to help somebody else in future, bye
[20:06] <Vinno> Thanks Dooklash
[20:06] <thefirstdude> is there a verse-blender debian package or something
[20:07] <scragar> I have the .deb installer for the flash plugin, would it be possible for other people to use it? I'd assume so given that that is what I have been using aptonCD for so far)
[20:07] <Geoffrey2> !topic
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[20:08] <Rem> The cd i burn and install ubuntu from does not format my computer. Does anyone know what i can do?
[20:08] <scragar> Rem: use gparted on the liveCD to wipe it before you start?
[20:08] <pike_> Rem: you need to resize or must format whole thing?
[20:09] <robdig> Rem: once you boot up the live CD, doubleclick the install icon on the desktop to start the installation. the live CD doesn't touch the hard disk until you tell it to
[20:09] <Rem> I want to format and remove all on the computer. I assume that i can switch to microsoft windows later if i want that?
[20:10] <robdig> Rem: yes
[20:10] <PirateHead> Is there a way to re-order the programs in your task bar?
[20:10] <PirateHead> Drag and drop doesn't work.
[20:10] <proprietarysucks> right click and unlock it
[20:10] <proprietarysucks> then you can drag
[20:11] <proprietarysucks> that's gnome, not ubuntu
[20:11] <mrdinkles> I just dled a ISO file-- Was going to burn it to a disc when i got to work-- however it now says the file has been changed or removed... how can i check if its on my computer, where can  find it?
[20:11] <PirateHead> Ah, I see. Good.
[20:11] <PirateHead> proprietarysucks: Ubuntu is Gnome, like it or not. :-)
[20:11] <cheeby> hi.  is there a good quake-like terminal for gnome?  I've been using tilda, but it freezes up about every three or four hours.
[20:11] <dsvick> scragar: I've found them, I'll have to poke around to find the right one now - thanks
[20:11] <proprietarysucks> PirateHead: no it's not..
[20:11] <cheeby> yakuake on gnome doesn't seem to work so well.
[20:11] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to change the screen resolution, and when I test the new settings I'm getting what looks like a white and black cross thatched background with a black x for my cursor...is that what should be happening, or is there a problem with my settings?
[20:12] <proprietarysucks> mrdinkles: find / -name "*.ISO"
[20:12] <PirateHead> mrdinkles: proprietarysucks' command might take awhile. You could also use locate.
[20:12] <proprietarysucks> forgot this is ubuntu, actually that would be      sudo find / -name "*.ISO"
[20:12] <Ali_ix> proprietarysucks: i prefer -iname for case insensetive search
[20:13] <CapaH> I have a friend on the phone who somehow messed up something in their Ubuntu install. I have tried walking them through how to fix it, but being unable to *see* the screen I am at the end of what I can suggest. Bottom line, their x-windows wont start, and they get this error: "No screens found" when they try: startx  --- I tried: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --- without success. Any ideas?
[20:13] <dsvick> How can I get rid of the tooltip popups for the minimized programs in the taskbar when I mouse over them? Can't find a setting preferences.
[20:13] <Rem> The cd i install from says" Boot from this cd to try ubuntu without effecting your system. I dont really have any other option.
[20:13] <proprietarysucks> Rem: try it
[20:14] <PirateHead> dsvick: If it's not in gconf, you would probably have to recompile something.
[20:14] <Ali_ix> dsvick: take a look on gconf-editor
[20:14] <robdig> Rem: boot from the cd, and it will start ubuntu. once loaded, there will be an install icon on the desktop, double click that to install
[20:14] <mrdinkles> Next question-- I have Cedega installed, i want to remove it, as well as some other files that do not appear in the remove programs list-- How can i remove these?
[20:14] <proprietarysucks> Rem: it is a live environment, which also has the option to install
[20:14] <Ali_ix> dsvick: you cat set most of gnome settings there
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> CapaH: did you have them select vesa mode and 1024 max res?
[20:14] <proprietarysucks> mrdinkles: sudo apt-get remove cedega
[20:14] <PirateHead> mrdinkles: Did you add them using apt-get or using some other script?
[20:14] <Rem> I have installed it and i can switch between that or ms windows but i cant format the harddrive.
[20:14] <CapaH> Jack_Sparrow: No trying that now
[20:15] <proprietarysucks> Rem: please be specific about what your problem is
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> CapaH: also set max depth to 16 for the test
[20:15] <mrdinkles> PirateHead: probably with apt-get...
[20:15] <thefirstdude> how can I make a .deb from source
[20:15] <PirateHead> mrdinkles: In that case, you would also remove it using apt-get as per proprietarysucks' suggestion.
[20:15] <dsvick> Ali_ix: where would that be? dont see it in 'system'
[20:15] <morphles> how come: in fstab i set to mount with exec but i restart and it is mounted noexec ?
[20:16] <mrdinkles> PirateHead: After using the find command-- it just reapears as michael~laptop>
[20:16] <PirateHead> mrdinkles: It's definitely a good idea to add things using apt-get when you can, since that makes them easier to keep track of and potentially remove.
[20:16] <PirateHead> mrdinkles: That means it didn't find anything.
[20:16] <Rem> I cant install ubuntu as i would with microsoft windows os. I cant format the harddrive and then install ubuntu. I only want ubuntu not ms windows.
[20:16] <Ali_ix> dsvick: you can enable it via edit menu (right click on a menu) or open with terminal/alt+f2 dialog
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !package
[20:16] <cGc> Rem, there should be a partition option during setup
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:16] <Rem> It isnt
[20:17] <PirateHead> !ubotu
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[20:17] <cGc> Rem, and you can select to use the whole drive
[20:17] <Rem> No i cant.
[20:17] <EdgEy> why not?
[20:17] <EdgEy> what happens instead>
[20:18] <cGc> should he try booting with the liveCD and then formatting with gparted or something? i wonder why that partition tool isnt coming up for him during install
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Rem: NOrmally.. you can select it to use the entire drive....please say what options you get
[20:18] <dsvick> Ali_ix: found it thanks
[20:18] <tarelerulz> I am trying to play a dvd with vlc and I don't know what I use for dvd ? how would you find out /dev/dvd /   It has couple files in /dev/cdrom  one is dvd how do you know which one you use ?
[20:19] <proprietarysucks> Rem: you want to remove all data on the hard drive before install right?
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cGc: Some large drives take awhile or hang gparted....    gparted livecd is one way around it
[20:19] <Martez> Hi, this is my first time here so I am not sure about etiquette- do I just ask my question and wait?
[20:19] <fwaokda> i installed "wubi" but after the ubuntu loading screen i get a black screen. what can i do to fix this???
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > Martez
[20:19] <Some_Person> Martez: Yes, just ask.
[20:19] <cGc> Rem, you are booting and then clicking install right? from the desktop
[20:19] <Ali_ix> Martez: yes :)
[20:19] <GhoSt_DoG> !ask > GhoSt_DoG
[20:19] <Ali_ix> Martez: and welcome :)
[20:19] <proprietarysucks> Rem: all you have to do is run a terminal, let me know when it's open
[20:20] <cGc> Jack_Sparrow, maybe he should try the gparted liveCD?
[20:20] <PirateHead> !botsnack
[20:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:20] <cGc> !botsnack
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cGc: It isnt a huge download and I have had great luck with it
[20:20] <LetterRip_> is there a dedicated channel to improving Ubuntu with laptops?
[20:20] <Some_Person> cGc: Ubuntu Live does NOT come with GParted.
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cGc: lets see what fdisk -l shows for him
[20:21] <Martez> Windows just crashed on me and I thought it a good opportunity to install the new Ubuntu, since it now supports my wireless card- I have all my music, photos, documents, etc, from Windows backed up on a WD Passport- is it possible to get the files stored on there off and onto Ubuntu once I have it installed? It's a pretty hefty amount of data and it's sort of the dealbreaker for whether or not I install Ubuntu
[20:21] <proprietarysucks> you don't need gparted to partition or format disks
[20:21] <EdgEy> perhaps this is a bit advanced but
[20:21] <PirateHead> LetterRip_: This is the general Ubuntu support channel. We help people with laptops, desktops, and whatever else in generla.
[20:21] <EdgEy> you could install gparted via apt on the ubuntu livecd
[20:21] <proprietarysucks> Martez: same hard drive or different?
[20:21] <EdgEy> saves having to burn another cd
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> proprietarysucks: true...  but it is a nice easy gui way of doing it
[20:21] <PirateHead> LetterRip_: So, to answer your question directly, I do not know of any more specialized channel for laptop help.
[20:21] <rakyr> is tunneldigger or carpaltunnel better and easier for connecting to vpns?
[20:21] <cGc> Rem, you still here?
[20:22] <Martez> proprietarysucks: same hard drive
[20:22] <PirateHead> rakyr: Definitely carpaldigger.
[20:22] <Rem> My only option is this " Boot from this cd to try ubuntu without effecting your system" This is the only option I have.
[20:22] <rakyr> i dont' get an openvpn option on the network-manager applet.  !network-manager | rakyr
[20:22] <Rem> a
[20:22]  * robdig sighs deeply
[20:22] <proprietarysucks> Rem: yes that's the option you want
[20:22] <LetterRip_> PirateHead, I'm interested in a broad scale effort to document/update the LaptopTestingTeam page
[20:22] <cGc> Rem, yeah boot the CD and on the desktop you will see the install icon
[20:22] <LetterRip_> not really appropriate for this channel :)
[20:22] <proprietarysucks> Rem: stop reading it over and over and press enter for gods sake
[20:23] <vb> how can I auto-mount the DVD's ?, I am using Gutsy Gibbon
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[20:23] <PirateHead> LetterRip_: That's great! If you want to start your own channel and/or wiki page for people who want to help with that effort, you should go ahead.
[20:23] <Rem> I have installed the ubuntu but microsoft windows is still in the computer.
[20:23] <proprietarysucks> Martez: you know about partitions ?
[20:23] <proprietarysucks> Rem: try to listen to me
[20:23] <Rem> k
[20:23] <proprietarysucks> Rem: when ubuntu starts up after that option, it's a live cd running off your ram, not in your hard drive
[20:24] <proprietarysucks> Rem: you must do another step to install it for real
[20:24] <Rem> k. what is that?
[20:24] <EdgEy> there is an install icon
[20:24] <EdgEy> on the desktop
[20:24] <PirateHead> Rem: the for-realz install is initiated using the "Intall" icon on your desktop.
[20:24] <EdgEy> after you load ubuntu from that cd
[20:24] <thefirstdude> what do I need to install to get libstdc++.so
[20:24] <Martez> proprietarysucks: A little, yeah- it's been a while since I've really gotten into this stuff- I sort of shut my brain off and dealt with windows for a long time.
[20:24] <PirateHead> !punctuation | EdgEy
[20:24] <ubotu> EdgEy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:24] <EdgEy> !qq | PirateHead
[20:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:24] <proprietarysucks> Martez: partition just like the regular english word partition, a seperation
[20:25] <Pici> EdgEy: Dont do that. Listen to the bot.
[20:25] <cGc> i'm pretty sure i told him about that icon a few times haha
[20:25] <unbeatabl> when setting up vps, is there a way so that all your virtual machines get to share the same hard disk space as the main server?  meaning i dont want to allocate a certain amount of hard disk space for each vm, is this possible?
[20:25] <proprietarysucks> Martez: you must sperate the windows part of the drive from the future ubuntu
[20:25] <Phusion> thefirstdude: http://www.debugmode.com/userforums/viewtopic.php?t=6125&sid=2c0bdf1d4ed64c74584effabe83937e8
[20:25] <robdig> cGc: you and i both did :)
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> everyone did
[20:25] <cGc> =P
[20:25] <luca> hi everyone
[20:25] <proprietarysucks> Martez: to do this you must resize the partition which already is there, using a livecd
[20:25] <Wyvern|> I have a linux box where the drives containing /home/ occationally doesn't mount on boot, and the boot itself fails. (I have to press Ctrl-D to continue). This is quite annoying, as I prefer to SSH to it and fix the issues. Any way to disable the forced check/"Press Ctrl-D" on boot, and make it boot regardless of errors?
[20:26] <Martez> proprietarysucks: Yeah, I know that I can install Ubuntu on the blank space of the current partition- I was kind of hoping I could wipe the whole drive and just use Ubuntu
[20:26] <jonathan8d1> Hey guys
[20:26] <proprietarysucks> Martez: you said you wanted the files from windows
[20:26] <mrga_cro> hi
[20:26] <luca> I have a strange problem with an Intersil Prism wireless card
[20:26] <mrga_cro> anybody has acer aspire 5520
[20:26] <Martez> Yeah, but I have the files I want on an external HD right now, as well- a Western Digital Passport
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> proprietarysucks: external
[20:26] <Kirua> to-techniques
[20:26] <cGc> mrga_cro, i have the 5000
[20:26] <Martez> so I could just format the whole drive
[20:26] <proprietarysucks> Martez: in that case it's super easy
[20:26] <mrga_cro> i have problem with bluettooth
[20:26] <Martez> Super easy is good :)
[20:26] <PirateHead> !ask | mrga_cro, luca, jonathan8d1
[20:27] <ubotu> mrga_cro, luca, jonathan8d1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:27] <proprietarysucks> Martez: what install media do you have?
[20:27] <luca> it is recognized and functions flawlessly with the live cd, but when ubuntu is installed, it does no longer function, not even installing the windows drivers
[20:27] <cGc> mrga_cro, i didnt get that option on mine, sorry
[20:27] <Martez> I have a Live CD
[20:27] <luca> PirateHead give me the time to write it ;)
[20:27] <komputes> how can i save a one click vnc shortcut, with the password and everything?
[20:27] <proprietarysucks> Martez: start her up
[20:27] <skarjoko> After installing avant-window-navigator, my graphics seem to look a little worse now, looking like its 16 bit colors or something. How do I fix this?
[20:27] <Phusion> mrga_cro: I'm on a 5100
[20:27] <proprietarysucks> Martez: then double click the install icon
[20:27] <Martez> I'm running on it right now
[20:27] <mrga_cro> what program i should use to connect to bluetooth
[20:27] <Martez> Here's the one thing:
[20:28] <mrga_cro> my mobile and lap
[20:28] <PirateHead> luca: I had that problem and it turned out that my wireless switch was turned off. Have you checked for the silly stuff like that?
[20:28] <Phusion> mrga_cro: my aspire has a bluetooth logo, but no bluetooth actually in it, have you successfully used it before?
[20:28] <unbeatabl> when setting up vps, is there a way so that all your virtual machines get to share the same hard disk space as the main server?  meaning i dont want to allocate a certain amount of hard disk space for each vm, is this possible?
[20:28] <mrga_cro> no
[20:28] <elektronik123> ROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTER
[20:28] <Phusion> mrga_cro: you might not even have bluetooth.
[20:28] <mrga_cro> well it says i have
[20:28] <Phusion> a-hem
[20:28] <PirateHead> !offtopic > elektronik123
[20:28] <Martez> When I plug my Passport into the USB port right now, it recognizes it as a Passport, but I can't just look at the files stored on it and pull them off- So I'm not sure how to access the files on the Passport in Ubuntu
[20:28] <mrga_cro> lap has it
[20:28] <cGc> mrga_cro, yeah mine has the logo and the button to toggle it on and off but i dont actually have it
[20:28] <Phusion>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[20:28] <mrga_cro> yes but i get lap with bluetooth
[20:29] <Phusion> yah, so did I
[20:29] <Phusion> but no bluetooth
[20:29] <elektronik123> ROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTERROUTER
[20:29] <mrga_cro> what is the point than
[20:29] <cGc> mine was "bluetooth ready" is what i found out when i got it
[20:29] <mrga_cro> they lie
[20:29] <Wyvern|> haha, like the "AirPort Ready" Macs, a while back?
[20:30] <proprietarysucks> Martez: you will be able to don't worry
[20:30] <cGc> Wyvern, yes... very annoying
[20:30] <proprietarysucks> Martez: by default some distros don't read ntfs but it's really easy to get them to
[20:30] <PirateHead> like "Windows Vista" ready laptops... still around today?
[20:30] <tarelerulz> This may sound dumb ,but how to you find out  file /dev/ is your dvd drive ? is as simple as being dvd.  The reason  I am asking is I am trying dvd with vlc
[20:30] <luca> well yeah obviously the switch is on :)
[20:30] <PirateHead> JK guys... it can only run Vista Home Basic.
[20:31] <jonathan8d1> When I used Windows, I enjoyed composing simple music using AnvilStudios (a midi sequencer.)  What is a good alternative to this application?  Is there an alternative to midi in the linux worId?  I tried seq24/jack/Zyn, but found that combo too complex and I could not figure out how to save the sequence to a midi file.
[20:31] <proprietarysucks> Martez: at home I have mp3s on an old windows hd that i play in linux
[20:31] <luca> the problem is not there
[20:31] <cGc> tarelerulz, when i put a dvd in and use vlc to play it, i just click okay when that window comes up and it works
[20:31] <mrga_cro> how can i even try to connect to mobile
[20:31] <Martez> proprietarysucks: Okay- right now it reads a bunch of folders named a, b, c, d, etc
[20:31] <BarryToeman> jonathan8d1: check out rosegarden
[20:31] <Martez> and then inside each one is a bunch of .dml files
[20:31] <PirateHead> jonathan8d1: Rosegarden and Lillypad allow you to sequence and print MIDI music.
[20:31] <cGc> tarelernulz, the default option works for me
[20:31] <Some_Person> PirateHead: jsut because it says for Vista basic doesn't mean it cant run higher
[20:31] <PirateHead> jonathan8d1: However, they aren't trivially easy to setu p. I couldn't figure it out. :-\
[20:31] <luca> PirateHead: the switch is on
[20:31]  * Kirua dance le frensh quanquan sur un air de Francis Labrel
[20:32] <proprietarysucks> Martez: sorry what are you talking about? if it sees that, then  it's reading it; what are you expecting to see?
[20:32] <luca> PirateHead: the problem is not there :)
[20:32] <Some_Person> !fr > Kirua
[20:32] <robdig> tarelerulz:  sudo lshw|grep -i dvd
[20:32] <PirateHead> Some_Person: that's not the story though. It says "Vista Ready" and it can only run Vista Home Basic.
[20:32] <Martez> proprietarysucks: The actual, files, I guess? MP3s, .docs, etc
[20:32] <Wyvern|> Pro question: How to make ubuntu boot regardless of non-critical boot errors automatically? (Without pressing Ctrl-D each time)?
[20:32] <jonathan8d1> PirateHead:  Thanks, I'll give it a try
[20:32] <Some_Person> PirateHead: even my 3 year old emachines can run vista ultimate (seriously)
[20:32] <PirateHead> luca: If you reboot into a LiveCD, does the wireless work?
[20:33] <rdesh> hi all
[20:33] <rdesh> how come the flashplugin-nonfree package doesn't actually have the flash plugin in the package?
[20:33] <luca> PirateHead: yeah
[20:33] <PirateHead> Some_Person: Your 3-year old emachine is evidently hardier than my one-year-old laptop, then. I shoulda gone with the emachine.
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> rdesh: flash is broken...
[20:33] <proprietarysucks> Martez: it looks like you didn't copy the data you thought you did
[20:33] <luca> PirateHead: that's the strange part
[20:33] <mrga_cro> install it from adobe web site
[20:33] <PirateHead> luca: That means it's a software problem, then.
[20:33] <rdesh> oh what happened?
[20:33] <Some_Person> PirateHead: I find that hard to believe
[20:34] <proprietarysucks> Martez: I don't really understand what you are doing; are you trying to back up your data *now* ?
[20:34] <luca> PirateHead: ok well how to solve or hack or patch it?
[20:34] <EdgEy> most machines will run vista ultimate
[20:34] <jonathan8d1> Since midi is proprietary; is there an alternative to the midi format for linux?
[20:34] <proprietarysucks> Martez: I thought you already had data on an external drive
[20:34] <Martez> No, I backed it up before Windows crashed.
[20:34] <EdgEy> disable the eye candy and its the same as home basic
[20:34] <proprietarysucks> Martez: ok well what it sees on there is all you have on there
[20:34] <EdgEy> now whether it runs slower than almost every other os going... :)
[20:34] <mindframe_> is there a way to make ubuntu not require a password when coming out of suspend/standby?
[20:34] <proprietarysucks> Martez: it wouldn't see some and not others
[20:34] <Martez> Hmmm.
[20:34] <Martez> Interesting.
[20:34] <PirateHead> luca: I'm not great with wireless cards myself, but I can suggest general ideas such as reinstalling the drivers and checking dmsg to see if there's some wireless-related debug output.
[20:34] <Martez> Okay, then- new question :)
[20:35] <Martez> Can I install Ubuntu on the free space I have right now, then bring over the files on the Windows side to the Ubuntu partition and delete the Windows partition after that?
[20:35] <tarelerulz> robdig , thanks for the command . It sounds basic ,but sometimes in Linux the basic is the information you really need the most .
[20:35] <luca> PirateHead: well that's the point...I have to use the windows drivers while in the hd installed os. And they do not function. The live cd has not those drivers...yet wireless functions.
[20:36] <robdig> tarelerulz: np
[20:37] <PirateHead> luca: perhaps the Windows drivers aren't really needed?
[20:37] <opapo> how do you get virtualbox to load a drbl image?
[20:38] <Carlos_> Hi! does anyone here knows how to fix the windows-booting problem "NTLDR" missing after having Ubuntu installed? I use GRUB, Windose is in hda3, and linux in hda1.
[20:38] <opapo> s/drbl/clonezilla/
[20:38] <luca> PirateHead: maybe yes!
[20:38] <luca> PirateHead: in fact I have just found out that linux-wlan-ng-firmware might solve the problem
[20:38] <luca> got to check :)
[20:39] <PirateHead> luca: I hope so. Good luck with that.
[20:39] <Martez> proprietarysucks: I see what happened with the .dml files now- the software included with the passport encrypts the files it syncs as .dml - I should've just used Windows Explorer and drag/dropped them
[20:39] <luca> PirateHead: thanks I will tell you if it functions :)
[20:40] <silent_> the last update toasted my sound card detection... I'm guessing it was the linux headers... I'm unimpressed. Any tips, or should I recompile the latest alsa?
[20:41] <Martez> I'm going to see if I can get Windows running again to fix this
[20:41] <Martez> thanks for the help, proprietarysucks
[20:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Martinp23: you can use someone elses MS to pull them and copy them back uncompreessed
[20:42] <silent_> you missed him
[20:42] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:42] <silent_> how long should I keep bank statements for?
[20:42] <silent_> I have a year backwards
[20:43] <lonejack> hi, has somebody of you installed zendstudio over 7.10?
[20:43] <loucas> !sound
[20:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:43] <vb> how do I automount DVD on Gutsy Gibbon ?
[20:44] <OldSpice> anyone know a really great music player for ubuntu?
[20:44] <LjL> !good > OldSpice    (OldSpice, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:44] <LjL> !players > OldSpice    (OldSpice, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:44] <cGc> OldSpice, i like songbird
[20:45] <neverblue> xmms
[20:45] <neverblue> amarok
[20:45] <OldSpice> cGc: alright i'll give it a try. i know there isn't exactly the "best" one but i just want a simple one that i can add my files to, than make playlists.
[20:45] <OldSpice> also an equalizer wouldnt hurt
[20:45] <LjL> OldSpice, they basically all have that
[20:45] <vb> OldSpice: I use Banshee :)
[20:47] <timandtom> How do I change which networks my wireless automatically connects to when I log in? Ubuntu 7.10
[20:47] <silent_> timandtom: YOU DONT MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[20:48] <pike_> timandtom: either in gui or gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:48] <silent_> it will connect to the previously set up interface
[20:48] <silent_> whatever you're on when you shut down will connect when you boot
[20:48] <OldSpice> anyone know how to change the ubuntu sound settings? music sounds fuzzy and stuffy. and im positive it's not the music itself
[20:48] <silent_> if the network is available and authentication succeeds
[20:48] <Rem> omg omg. This is so embarrasing but I say thank you to everyone who helped me!
[20:48] <cGc> Rem, no problem glad you got it!
[20:49] <silent_> OldSpice: that's most likely a problem with either your sound card or your motherboard
[20:49] <silent_> OldSpice: try installing the latest alsa from their website
[20:49] <timandtom> pike_: How do I do that exactly? I accidentally connected to my neighbors network, "Tony", and I wanna get rid of that
[20:49] <OldSpice> silent_: is it because drivers?
[20:49] <silent_> timandtom: open up the network properties and change it
[20:49] <silent_> timandtom: system > administration > network
[20:50] <silent_> OldSpice: unlikely, but you can try
[20:50] <silent_> OldSpice: try installing the latest alsa, as I recommended
[20:50] <OldSpice> silent_: what is an alsa?
[20:50] <timandtom> silent_: New to linux... Where is network properties?
[20:50] <teddy233> i have 30 ips giving to be from my ISP in the 206.162 range... How can i use ubuntu to manage them?
[20:51] <silent_> OldSpice: http://www.google.ca/search?q=alsa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[20:51] <Matrix> hello
[20:51] <Phusion> teddy233: how many network cards do you have, one IP per interface.
[20:51] <OldSpice> ty
[20:51] <Phusion> OldSpice: how are things coming?
[20:51] <silent_> timandtom, did you open that dialogue?
[20:51] <silent_> you should see all the available interfaces there
[20:51] <brobostigon> timandtom: menu system/admin/network
[20:51] <teddy233> i have 1 interface :)
[20:52] <OldSpice> phusion: im sort of getting the hang of this, but it seems i have yet to find more problems & solutions
[20:52] <Matrix> Im new to linux ubuntu so was wondering if i can ask a quistion (about som package)
[20:52] <timandtom> brobostigon: Ah, haha, thanks, I was looking for something actually called network properties
[20:52] <OldSpice> phusion: as i do tasks i would normally do on windows, i encounter some problems.
[20:52] <Phusion> Matrix: dont ask to ask, just ask
[20:52] <Kernel> !ask | Matrix
[20:52] <timandtom> silent_: Network SETTINGS it open now, if thats what you meant
[20:52] <ubotu> Matrix: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:52] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah, like what are you running into?
[20:52] <vb> how do I automount DVD in 7.10 ?
[20:53] <OldSpice> phusion: fuzzy sounds, which i am trying to get fixed now, and xmms not being able to make a music library from my ntfs directories.
[20:53] <silent_> timandtom: settings refers as a general term to any options you may set that are available through that menu
[20:53] <silent_> click the interface and hit properties, or right click the interface and use that menu
[20:53] <Rem> Can I ask something else also. My computer is a desktop. If i log on to a free internet with (there are those in the cities now) do i get an IP adress automatically?
[20:53] <Matrix> Lol okay :) well im trying to install somthing but i get : No package 'ice' found and no package 'sm' Found And i did try search for it in synaptic si was wondering if they goes under another name?
[20:53] <Phusion> OldSpice: you might want to try Amarok, its very powerful, kinda iTunesy though
[20:54] <Kernel> Matrix: what are you trying to install?
[20:54] <teddy233> can i use virtual interface to manage the ips ?
[20:54] <silent_> Phusion: rhythmbox is nice... itunsey as well, but without the bloat
[20:54] <teddy233> can't stuff 30 NIC in a computer
[20:54] <Phusion> yar.
[20:55] <timandtom> silent_: Ok. So, how do I change it so I don't automatically connect to my neighbors network? I take the laptop lots of places, and there are a few networks I want it to connect to, I just want to remove this one specifically, not limit myself to just one network
[20:55] <Matrix> Well i got this "crazy" idea that i want beryl on ther (I use that computer to "learn" Ubuntu before i install it on my good computer)
[20:55] <OldSpice> phusion: okay ill give it a try, so would i run a terminal to get amarok?
[20:55] <amainland> hello is there any command line based hex editor ?
[20:55] <silent_> OldSpice: try rhythmbox and amarok... I use rhythmbox myself
[20:55] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah, sudo apt-get install amarok will do it, you can try in Synaptic if you're more familiar with the GUI
[20:55] <Kernel> Matrix: try apt-cache search beryl
[20:55] <Rem> I would assume i need an ip to access the internet
[20:55] <Phusion> silent_ is apparently an employee at rythembox :P
[20:56] <Matrix> ok one moment
[20:56] <HeGog> how do i install dssi-vst plugin in my ubuntu linux?
[20:56] <silent_> wait, we get payed to write open source code...?

[20:56] <OldSpice> phusion: just for the learning experience, i'll get synaptic too so would i do this? sudo apt-get install Synaptic ?
[20:56] <Phusion> hehe
[20:56] <Kernel> Rem: yes if the "free" internet has a dhcp server..it will assign you a ip automaticly...assuming you are using dhcp for you connection and not a static ip
[20:56] <vb> smb://amishra6-pc/C/Amit%20Data/Movie/Completed%20-%20Movies/Hitman.2007.Eng.CAM.DivX-LTT/Hitman.Eng.CAM.DivX-LTT.avi
[20:56] <Phusion> you have it already
[20:56] <Phusion> OldSpice: system -> administration -> Synaptic Package Manage
[20:56] <Phusion> r
[20:56] <Phusion> OldSpice: search amarok
[20:56] <Phusion> I'm taking a lunch break, bbl
[20:56] <OldSpice> phusion: oh lol.
[20:57] <raziel> hello i am trying to open a flash chat in e-pcmag.gr and i can't make it work any ideas?
[20:57] <silent_> timandtom, erase the settings in interface properties in that menu
  Well it dont find anything Just makes a new line :S
[20:57] <Lacrymology> can someone help me setting up my audio drivers?
[20:57] <HeGog> HELP: how do i install (compile) dssi-vst plugin in my ubuntu linux?
[20:57] <Lacrymology> in 2.6.20 worked fine, but gutsy won't let me go down
[20:57] <Lacrymology> and lshw says that
[20:57] <OldSpice> phusion: thought synaptic was a music player, a more gui based one that amarok
[20:57] <Lacrymology>      *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[20:57] <Matrix> Also tryed apt-get install ice (was woth a try)
[20:57] <Kernel> Matrix: hmm i dont have ubuntu installed any more. im running off of memory.
[20:57] <Centipeed> So I've got devilspie installed
[20:57] <Kernel> what is ice?
[20:57] <Centipeed> I've got it listed in the startup programs
[20:58] <Matrix> Yes thats what i wantet to know lol
[20:58] <Matrix> I got no clue
[20:58] <amainland> is there a command-line hex editor?
[20:58] <Centipeed> But when I start up, and then open the programs it should have an effect on, it doesn't work
[20:58] <Matrix> but somhow it neede it
[20:58] <Kernel> why are you trying to install it then?!
[20:58] <Matrix> becaus its asking me to do it
[20:58] <Kernel> what is?
[20:58] <timandtom> silent_: There isnt an interface properties in this window
[20:58] <luca> question: how can I generate a text file containing the list of all the installed packages in an ubuntu os?
[20:58] <Matrix> Before i can contenue (i can find a link to a guy with similar problem were he have the codes)
[20:59] <Kernel> Matrix: have you added/enabled sources?
[20:59] <Rem> Thanks!
[20:59] <Flannel> amainland: "ncurses-hexedit"
[20:59] <Kernel> !sources | Matrix
[20:59] <ubotu> Matrix: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[20:59] <Flannel> !cloning | luca
[20:59] <amainland> Flannel: I thought there was a generic one, preinstalled like hex or something like that
[20:59] <ubotu> luca: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:59] <Kernel> !easysource | Matrix
[20:59] <ubotu> Matrix: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
 Yes it is
[20:59] <Centipeed> How can I make a shortcut to a script that does this: Open program1, open program2, close program1
[20:59] <Kernel> ok
[20:59] <Flannel> amainland: there may very well be.  I just did an apt-cace search
[21:00] <amainland> Flannel,, sorry that didn't even occur to me,, thanks
[21:00] <Flannel> amainland: there's hexdump, if you want to use it with sed, I guess you could.
[21:00] <silent_> timandtom: hit System > Administration > Network ... You will have a tab opened, "Connection" These are your interfaces. Click on whatever wireless connection is there and hit properties... clear the settings under that menu and hit ok
[21:00] <itsjustme> I saved my name at pastebin.... is there a way to see a message someone sent me earlier today?
[21:01] <amainland> Flannel, actually I just want to view not edit
[21:01] <Matrix> well if you scroll down http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/archive/index.php/t-2561.html to were its sais The package is not found its the similar i have
[21:01] <Flannel> amainland: Ah, hexdump might very well be what you're looking for.
[21:01] <anonymous3420> So is 8.04LTS alpha 2 out?
[21:01] <anonymous3420> the release date was today
[21:01] <silent_> I can't use compiz fusion.... :( glx wont let me play games in wine
[21:01] <Flannel> anonymous3420: #ubuntu+1
[21:01] <timandtom> silent_: There ARE no properties, it just has []Enable Roaming Mode checked
[21:02] <Lacrymology> I have my computer set up with the x86 kernels because I needed a 32b enviroment, long story
[21:02] <amainland> Flannel: Thanks,, that's perfect
[21:02] <Lacrymology> I want to make it a X64
[21:02] <Kernel> Matrix: are you trying to compile something?
[21:02] <silent_> timandtom: take a screenshot of System > Administration > Network
[21:02] <Flannel> amainland: Looks like `hd` is an alias to hexdump with generic parameters, at that.
[21:02] <Lacrymology> how hard would it be?
[21:02] <silent_> timandtom: upload it to imageshack.us
[21:02] <Matrix> I suppose (as i said im new and well hate my self for it but i love a challange)
[21:02] <amainland> Flannel,, I thinkhd was  what I used, before. I just couldn't remember the command - just that it was very simple
[21:03] <Kernel> Matrix: hmm so. are you trying to compile something?...
[21:03] <timandtom> silent_ http://i15.tinypic.com/6l1ktix.png
[21:03] <amainland> Flannel: no one goes to search.com but google and yahoo are easy to remember
[21:03] <Kernel> or ....im still a little confused as to what your trying to get done.
[21:03] <uselezz> can sb send me the address for a german ubuntu irc-channel please?
[21:03] <Kernel> !german
[21:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:03] <Alyxander> ok so why do i keep hearing that automartrix is the devil lol?
[21:04] <Matrix> 1 second ill have to look throught the ./configure file then (Its in beryl)
[21:04] <uselezz> thx ;)
[21:04] <Kernel> hey Matrix
[21:04] <Kernel> if your trying to compile...why?
[21:04] <Kernel> install using apt
[21:04] <Kernel> !compile | Matrix
[21:04] <ubotu> Matrix: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[21:04] <kingace> hi, is there anyway to use just xgl in gutsy without fglrx
[21:04] <Alyxander> anyone....?
[21:05] <itsjustme> is there an alternate kdeubuntu help chat available
[21:05] <Matrix> ok ill read it Brb when im done
[21:05] <bieb> hey I have been looking in the Ubuntu forum for laptops trying to find info on the HP dv9610us or dv9620us laptop. It has AMD processor and nvidia graphics. I am not sure which wireless card is used. Does anyone know about installing Ubuntu on this laptop? or Does anyone here own this laptop?
[21:05] <Kernel> kingace: xgl needs 3d rendering which fglrx provieds
[21:05] <Kernel> *provides
[21:06] <kingace> Kernel: fglrx causes my ubuntu not to boot; i remember in earlier versions of ubuntu i used XGL without aiglx or anything, jsut by itself, is that stil possible
[21:06] <Kernel> oh. i think i misunderstood your question.
[21:06] <Kernel> and im not sure.
[21:06] <Kernel> ive only used beryl b4
[21:07] <kingace> yeah, i used to use ubuntu with beryl and xgl, aiglx never worked for me for some reason
[21:07] <kingace> and now i install ubuntu and for whatever reason my system doesnt boot when flgrx is is inabled
[21:07] <kingace> wow
[21:07] <kingace> *fglrx **enabled
[21:07] <kingace> so i need an alternative method
[21:07] <HeGog> HELP: how do i install (compile) dssi-vst plugin in my ubuntu linux?
[21:08] <Frenchy> irc.connorhd.net
[21:08] <teddy233> how can i tell the ip 206.162.x.x to point to 10.0.1.1 on my internal network?  Do i use NAT ?
[21:09] <pramz> teddy233, what will be doing the pointing ?
[21:09] <teddy233> ubuntu
[21:09] <Lacrymology> teddy233: if you want that to happen only in your machine (or your machine works as the router) you can do it easy with iptables
[21:09] <vb_> how to automount a DVD in ubuntu ?
[21:09] <pramz> you can use IPtables and setup ip forwarding.
[21:10] <teddy233> iptables.. thats what i wanted to hear
[21:10] <silent_> timandtom: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2861/6l1ktixag0.png
[21:10] <teddy233> YAY! i get to learn about iptables now
[21:10] <blackgraz> yeah
[21:10] <pramz> teddy233, if you search google for iptables+NAT there are lots of guides. You can also checkup howtoforge
[21:10] <blackgraz> im having a problem with ubuntu server
[21:10] <blackgraz> im using it as a firewall/router
[21:10] <blackgraz> dhcp works workstations can get an IP
[21:11] <blackgraz> i just cant get it to fwd the packets to the internet
[21:11] <silent_> timandtom: disable roaming
[21:11] <timandtom> silent_: One, thats green, not yellow. Two, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID. ETH1 PROPERTIES IS WHAT CAME UP.
[21:11] <mindframe_> is there a way to tell ubuntu to run a command when it resumes from standby>
[21:12] <blackgraz> silent_, you talking to me?
[21:12] <blackgraz> i dont have X installed
[21:12] <timandtom> silent_: If I don't have roaming enabled, won't it only be set up for one network?
[21:12] <kingace> has anybody heard of fglrx causing a blank screen instead of gdm which freezes like that?
[21:12] <OldSpice> how do you make a new folder within a directory?
[21:12] <pramz> mkdir from command line
[21:13] <silent_> timandtom: sec, I'm fixing something of my own
[21:13] <pramz> right click in nautilus
[21:13] <timandtom> silent_ Ok
[21:13] <silent_> timandtom: and yes... just set up individual networks and save them using the location manager
[21:13] <silent_> if you need to connect to anything not in your location manager select it under ssid... all detected networks will be shown
[21:14] <dug_> Can someone tell me how to record audio from a USB microphone (logitech)?  Using Audacity or any recording application.  Thanks
[21:14] <mitchp> whoever silent is talking to; I assume you're trying to set up wireless.  I found the program wicd works better than network manager
[21:14] <HPM_> If my home router forwards port 2200 to my desktop on 22 (so 2200 -> 22), is there a way to use that ssh connection to tunnel my web traffic from work in such a way that I can browse my home lan from work (say to connect to my router remotely) ?
[21:14] <teddy233> can i use aliases like eth0:1 eth0:2 for routing ips or MUST I have more than 1 NIC ?
[21:14] <mitchp> though I haven't had much success installing it lately, I think they've changed something
[21:15] <blackgraz> so noone here knows how to set ubuntu as a firewall/router
[21:15] <timandtom> silent_: Ok. You sure theres not just some way to remove "Tony" from what I automatically connect to? Everywhere else, it connects to the right network, but I accidentally clicked "tony" once, so now... Dx
[21:15] <mitchp> black; go to aboutdebian.com...org?...one sec
[21:15] <timandtom> silent_: If not, I'll just do it the way you suggested
[21:15] <mitchp> http://aboutdebian.com
[21:16] <blackgraz> mitchp, i configed shorewall and both my nics
[21:16] <mitchp> the firewall script they talk about doesn't work on mine, but the router one does.  You can use firestarter to setup a firewall graphically
[21:16] <wolfeySI> hello new kernel complains partion is at too high cylinder, previous kernel works
[21:16] <blackgraz> it just doesnt wanna seem to play nice
[21:16] <silent_> timandtom: check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:16] <mitchp> black; i'm not familiar with shorewall
[21:16] <timandtom> silent_: Ok, ill try that
[21:16] <silent_> timandtom: if there is a setting for ssid there you can remove it
[21:17] <silent_> only remove any ssid setting for "Tony"
[21:17]  * Matrix starting to love linux Such a challange i would never meet in windows vista
[21:17] <white_eagle> ?
[21:17] <silent_> it probably connects to tony cause it has a stronger signal... if you select to connect to the preferred network it will override it
[21:17] <mitchp> matrix; i know the feeling.  welcome
[21:17] <wolfeySI> Matrix: windows works until it doesnt. linux doesnt work until it does. later is better cause once you set it properly, you dont worry usually
[21:17] <timandtom> Silent_: this is all thats in it "auto lo iface lo inet loopback"
[21:18] <timandtom> silent_: Tony is a weaker signal. I sit about 10 feet from my router and get 5 bars
[21:18] <itsjustme> mute
[21:18] <Matrix> Yeah i never NEVER reinstalled anything as many times as linux haha
[21:18] <silent_> timandtom: chose to connect to your own network then go to roaming mode
[21:19] <timandtom> silent_: Ok
[21:19] <silent_> timandtom: you don't have your network passworded? tisk tisk
[21:19] <mitchp> matrix; it seemed like i was wasting so much time first doing linux, but now I don't really do anything, it just does what i want
[21:19] <timandtom> silent_: I DO have it passworded
[21:19] <silent_> timandtom: then roaming wont work for passworded networks until you log into the network
[21:19] <white_eagle> hello, is there any way to continue the broken downloads in ubuntu, especially those made with the terminal (2-3 times when I try to download KDE the connection brakes and I have to redownload again and it again fails and besides that I have problems with my ISP and the downloads go by 2-3 KB/s)
[21:20] <timandtom> silent_: I
[21:20] <wolfeySI> mitchp: ubuntu is too user friendly.. i dont do anything and everything works and all eyecandy is there
[21:20] <Billy> guys - -  I can not help but play with compiz fusion ........ son of a gun is AWSOME ...... anyone have any tips or links ?
[21:20] <DeverouX> hi all
[21:20] <wolfeySI> mitchp: hell it doesnt even want me to partition disks manually
[21:20] <samuel>  I downloaded samba for my ubuntu ... but swat doesn't seem to work. Nothing happen with http://localhost:901 ... What did I forget ?
[21:20] <samuel>  Is swat another Ubuntu package ?
  Yeah i heard that the start of learning linux(the first year) is So touf that many quit but after that You can get it to run better then anything els
[21:20] <timandtom> silent_: Ive logged into both the SECURED networks that I use, one of which is near tony. It still connects to tony(which has a weaker signal) by default, i always hafta change it
[21:20] <itsjustme> I have completely reconfigured sound using the ubuntu help file and during this it says the alsa and oss are muted by default... I have a muted volume button on my taskbar... how do I unmute it...  rightclick only shows mute    when show mixer window its empty
[21:20] <mitchp> wolfeySI; that's not the experience i had... well, it was and it wasn't.  I use a lot more than what's included in the standard ubuntu distro.
[21:21] <wolfeySI> mitchp: well i'm used to gentoo... ubuntu is too easy:)
[21:21] <mitchp> plus i started a web/ftp server
[21:21] <zitsep> what format are man pages in? (e.g. sed.1)
[21:21] <mitchp> never used gentoo
[21:21] <mitchp> actually, havent used anything that's not debian
[21:21] <comicinker> when I try to  include gst/gst.h or any gtk/gtk.h to my C program, make sais: No such file or directory
[21:21] <mitchp> im kinda scared too i'm too used to .deb packages
[21:21] <comicinker> where are my includes gone?
[21:21] <Matrix> Who knows a good IRC chat program for Ubuntu(well just linux)
[21:21] <zitsep> what format are man pages in? (e.g. sed.1) I ask 'couse i want to convert them into a single txt, rtf or html file and print it
[21:22] <white_eagle> hello, is there any way to continue the broken downloads in ubuntu, especially those made with the terminal (2-3 times when I try to download KDE the connection brakes and I have to redownload again and it again fails and besides that I have problems with my ISP and the downloads go by 2-3 KB/s)
[21:22] <Turgon> Hello. I use Ubuntu 7.10, and I want Firefox to automatically download certain file types, without asking me for confirmation. My problem is that the checkbox that should enable this behaviour is greyed out, I can't tick it: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2443/pantallazoif1.png How could I do what I want? Thanks a lot for your time. :)
[21:22] <itsjustme> I dont know why but I rebooted to windozzz  and rebooted back to ubuntu and now I have my internet back... I still dont have sound though
[21:22] <timandtom> Matrix: Xchat
[21:22] <wolfeySI> comicinker: did you install  apt-get install build-essential    ?
[21:22] <white_eagle> !repeat > white_eagle
[21:22] <train> okay when my screen saver runs it locks up my system
[21:22] <wolfeySI> comicinker: and to compile you need -dev packages too
[21:22] <train> I think its the braid screensaver thats doing it
[21:22] <wolfeySI> not just binary libs
[21:22] <mitchp> zitsep; can't you print from the command line?  send the output from the man command to the printing command (i've never done it)
[21:22] <goodhabit> Hello. My user is capable to share folders with samba only @ home directory. What can I do for share other sources?
[21:23] <Matrix> hmm xchat Is that Fedira version or source i Should download?
[21:23] <Matrix> Fedora
[21:23] <Matrix> *
[21:23] <zitsep> mitchup: I need ALL man pages (from man1 directory)
[21:23] <mitchp> matrix; you can also use the chatzilla extension for firefox (unless its not for the linux firefox, i've never tried it, i use xchat)
[21:23] <kaur> I'm having random hard lockupswith gutsy. So far they've occured when the computer has been idle for some time (monitor in standby mode etc...). Can these lockups be related to the fact that nicotine is running? I read somewhere that there's a problem with php clients&network...
[21:23] <zitsep> mitchup: how would you do that?
[21:23] <timandtom> Matrix: See if its in Synaptic
[21:23] <kaur> p2p*
[21:23] <mitchp> zitep; wow, no idea.  to be honest, i don't even know where they are
[21:24] <teddy233> i didn't see a reply to my question so i'll post again
[21:24] <teddy233> can i use aliases like eth0:1 eth0:2 for routing ips or MUST I have more than 1 NIC ?
[21:24] <comicinker> wolfeySI: I have build-essential installed. also gtk devs and gst devs. my header files are here: locate gst/gst.h: /usr/include/gstreamer-0.10/gst/gst.h
[21:24] <mitchp> kaur; i have that problem when i leave totem open overnight (fell asleep, lol)
 Well since im new What Version of Xchat should i download? i have no idea if its Fedora Or source :S
[21:24] <Matrix> (I only have 3 version Windows and fedora and source
[21:25] <silent_> timandtom: type "waproamd" in console
[21:25] <timandtom> Matrix: go to System>Administration>Synaptic
[21:25] <mitchp> Matrix; there should be a debian package.  if you can't find it with apt, go to add/remove programs.  i didn't compile it, i know that much
[21:25] <timandtom> Matrix: And use that to find/install Xchat
[21:25] <comicinker> wolfeySI: maybe I lost path information from some "global variable"
[21:25] <Matrix> Can i really use syn for that :O COOOL!!
[21:25] <jakonj> Does anyone knows where to find Range software FEA program for ubuntu 7.04
[21:25] <jakonj> ?
[21:26] <kaur> mitchp: I usually don't use totem. It's weird that whatever causes the lockups they're really hard... Even the capslock button doesn't react...(light stays dead). The only way is to manually power off which is not good for the hd
[21:26] <white_eagle> hello, is there any way to continue the broken downloads in ubuntu, especially those made with the terminal (2-3 times when I try to download KDE the connection brakes and I have to redownload again and it again fails and besides that I have problems with my ISP and the downloads go by 2-3 KB/s)
[21:26] <mitchp> kaur; i haven't tried the caps lock button, that would be interesting.  I know my screen is still on (black.  i have a tough time getting power saving to work properly in general)
[21:26] <Lycalopex> white_eagle: wget can do this also you can install a download manager or something
[21:27] <patrick_> my school changed it's wireless to wpa security, and has 4 equifax certificates that i need to use to log in, i downlaoded the certificates, but how to i use them?
[21:27] <jakonj> @white-eagle: it should continue the donwload anyway!
[21:27] <OldSpice> phusion: im back on windows, ubuntu is too hardcore for me. i think i'll research a bit more on everything i need to fun ubuntu smoothly :[.
[21:27] <Gssands> Hello I a newbe
[21:27] <white_eagle> Lycalopex: in the repos?
[21:27] <teddy233> can i use aliases like eth0:1 eth0:2 for routing ips or MUST I have more than 1 NIC ?
[21:27] <sagar> where does gnome store information about icons? for example, if i set a file to have a custom icon, where does it save that information?
[21:27] <white_eagle> jakonj: i have to reconect manually
[21:27] <Lycalopex> white_eagle: im sure there are a few in repos
[21:27] <mitchp> Matrix;  there's two different things, there's synaptic which is all the packages themselves, and there's also add/remove programs (in the program[?] menu) which just has the programs themselves, then resolves the dependencies).
[21:27] <Lycalopex> white_eagle: prob a plugin too
[21:27] <void^> comicinker: normally you use something like 'pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0' to get the required cflags like include paths for a package (gtk+-2.0 in this case). autoconf is useful to take care of that.
[21:27] <mneptok> white_eagle: use a torrent
[21:28] <RazzoRz> i have one hard drive that has 104gigs of free space as /dev/sda1  and i have it partitiond with Ubuntu on a 37gig /dev/sda3   How can i make the two partitions into one big drive!!
[21:28] <mitchp> Gssands; lol, welcome.  any questions?
[21:28] <kaur> mitchp: I had problems with it too but then I read that it'd be a good idea to remove the hibernate package as it causes a conflict. I did that and standby/hibernate started to work
[21:28] <goodhabit> Hello. My user is capable to share folders with samba only @ home directory. What can I do for share other sources?
[21:28] <white_eagle> mneptok: i need to download KDE not kubuntu
[21:28] <Matrix> So add/remove programs can also be used to search the internet for programs? (well im use to windows)
[21:28] <mitchp> kaur; interesting.  the lack of suspend is very annoying on my laptop
[21:28] <jakonj> yes but it will save the partial downloaded file in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial!
[21:29] <mneptok> white_eagle: installing the -desktop package?
[21:29] <mitchp> Matrix; not quite.  it searches a database, whcih has a very large amount of programs.  you can add or remove databases in the options.  ti does it this way so you dont add programs that could be harmful
[21:29] <kaur> mitchp: I have a laptop too so I know what you're talking about. Try to remove the hibernate package
[21:29] <mitchp> kaur; thanks I'll try that when i get home
[21:29] <jakonj> ok since there is not so many cnc programers on linux i need to ask something else: how can i convert 4000 svg icons in one folder (with several subfolders) to png (22px, 32px) in ubuntu?
[21:30] <Matrix> Is it true that ther is almost Non viruses for linux? (brb gona test is my xchat works)
[21:30] <mneptok> jakonj: sounds like a job for ImageMagick
[21:30] <kst-> yes?
[21:30] <poningru_> Matrix, yes
[21:30] <jakonj> but how to do that?
[21:30] <Guest16155> hello , does it possible to merge files with cat command ?
[21:30] <patrick_> my school changed it's wireless to wpa security, and has 4 equifax certificates that i need to use to log in, i downlaoded the certificates, but how to i use them?
[21:30] <matrix_> Hehe nice :P
[21:31] <Lycalopex> Matrix: linux itself is a virus and so somewhat immune
[21:31] <matrix_> another reason to love linux
[21:31] <poningru_> !wpa
[21:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:31] <kst-> Matrix while my windows install gets infected within 20mins when i dont put in effort, i havent experienced any problems after several months without doing anything to secure my linux install
[21:31] <jakonj> @guest: cat file1 file2 file3
[21:31] <Phusion> OldSpice: you gotta stick with it-- go back to windows when you're stuck, but keep playing with ubuntu
[21:31] <matrix_> That's Just cool :O
[21:31] <white_eagle> i have a virus HELP!!!
[21:31] <white_eagle> LOLZ
[21:31] <OldSpice> phusion: ya, i came back on windows to sort things out xD
[21:31] <RazzoRz> I have one hard drive.. the main Partition is /dev/sda3 with 37gigs on it.( 2 gigs remaining )  the other half is /dev/sda1 with 104 gig's on it... can can i merge them without formatting!!
[21:31] <white_eagle> not in linux
[21:31] <Guest16155> jakonj: cat file1 file2 file3 > output ?
[21:32] <Phusion> OldSpice: I started using linux in '96-97 or so, and I still don't know much--- keep at it :)
[21:32] <jakonj> yes... i forgot about that.
[21:32] <comicinker> void^: well.... I just want to figure out whats broken
[21:32] <jakonj> sorry
[21:32] <matrix_> Too bad games arent made for linux then  i would throw My Vista To hell hehe
[21:32] <OldSpice> phusion: wow, that is some major dedication!
[21:33] <itsjustme> when adding repositories. what do I add before the website   thx
[21:33] <mitchp> matrix; my server got hacked onto, and all i had to do was change my passwords and delete the scripts that were put on there.  it wasn't possible to do permanent damage to my core files.  however, my server was pry used to hack windows machines :-P
[21:33] <Phusion> OldSpice: well, its offtopic but I was addicted to MUDs, which I could only connect to through a linux shell at the time, so my thirst for slaying dragons helped.
[21:33] <brobostigon> matrix_: there are game sfor linux, look on packages.ubuntu.com, there are lots.
[21:33] <SimNI1> greetings
[21:33] <comicinker> even I include the full path "/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10/gst/gst.h" make cannot resolve the dependend header files (glib.h....) so ther is something broken I think. what could it be?
[21:33] <mitchp> matrix; yea the only reason i still have windows is for WoW
[21:33] <Phusion> OldSpice: and you'll see, as you learn Ubuntu and *nix in general, you'll start to see its advantages over Windows
[21:34] <comicinker> void^: even I include the full path "/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10/gst/gst.h" make cannot resolve the dependend header files (glib.h....) so ther is something broken I think. what could it be?
[21:34] <mitchp> til i get an nVidia graphics card that is
[21:34] <matrix_> Would it work to Duel boot vista with Ubuntu ?
[21:34] <RazzoRz> can anyone help with merging two partitions ??
[21:34] <Lycalopex> matrix_: for fps tremulous is pretty good also quake wars has a demo
[21:35] <OldSpice> phusion: i already know that it may be an advantage over windows, however the learning curve isn't that great. i'm not really used to running the terminal as i've always been a windows/mac guy.
[21:35] <mitchp> matrix_; yes, that's what I do
[21:35] <matrix_> Gona check those 2 out
[21:35] <jakonj> wow... there is so many linux users here... In my environment there is only one person who use linux :(
[21:35] <XVampireX> Hi
[21:35] <void^> comicinker: and do you include /usr/include/glib-2.0 /usr/lib/glib-2.0/include?
[21:35] <mitchp> I installed ubuntu with windows already on there and it did it almost automatically
[21:35] <matrix_> and ther is no problem When you uninstall Ubuntu =? :O
[21:35] <XVampireX> Does anyone have a good tutorial to get pulseaudio up and running in ubuntu, and some tips on debugging problems?
[21:35] <Phusion> OldSpice: well, I'm just a term junkie, you can install things graphically with much ease using that Synaptic Package Manager
[21:35] <matrix_> That dosen't sounds like windows aka bill gates
[21:36] <Phusion> OldSpice: its just good to get a feel for the command line, it gives you a better understanding of the internal workings of linux.
[21:36] <mitchp> not windows that makes it work, its ubuntu
[21:36] <OldSpice> phusion: ah, i never gave that synaptic package manager a try, maybe i'll check it out again.
[21:36] <Phusion> jakonj: well, you need to enlighten those around you to the wonders of Linux and OSS :)
[21:36] <matrix_> lol
[21:36] <itsjustme> what gets added before the http when updating the repository sites?
[21:36] <Phusion> OldSpice: yeah man, it's whicked easy, it will ask for your password, then you just select what you want to install and hit Apply
[21:37] <jakonj> belive me i tried... but they just love Windoz games ;)
[21:37] <Phusion> OldSpice: don't go removing stuff though, that can cause problems, only uninstall if you installed it in the first place
[21:37] <Phusion> jakonj: well yeah, so do I, thats why I dual boot.
[21:37] <matrix_> Let me gues Simple as Putting ubuntu cd in and install it on a partition on my Hdd? :p
[21:37] <OldSpice> phusion: so are there already programs i can choose to install? or would i have to download than install?
[21:37] <Phusion> gotta download
[21:37] <Phusion> OldSpice: but you can search
[21:37] <mitchp> alright guys i gotta get back to work b4 i get fired
[21:37] <Phusion> or just browse whats there
[21:37] <Phusion> work??!?
[21:37] <white_eagle> ???
[21:38] <white_eagle> yeah
[21:38] <Phusion> I'm at work too hehe, lucky for you guys I have nothing to do
[21:38] <white_eagle> work
[21:38] <OldSpice> phusion: i also had a problem making directors. i forgot the terminal command but every time i ran it, it said it can't be completed
[21:38] <RazzoRz> can anyone help me with Gparted!!
[21:38] <comicinker> void^: please have a look here: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22946/
[21:38] <white_eagle> RazzoRz: tell...
[21:38] <itsjustme> what gets added before the http when updating the repository sites?  does anyone know?  i think its dev something
[21:38] <lovedeatm> what the comand to move files
[21:38] <RazzoRz> I have one hard drive.. the main Partition is /dev/sda3 with 37gigs on it.( 2 gigs remaining )  the other half is /dev/sda1 with 104 gig's on it... can can i merge them without formatting!!
[21:38] <Phusion> OldSpice: mkdir
[21:38] <matrix_> cool
[21:38] <encompass> is imagemagick part of the liveCD?
[21:38] <usr> hello
[21:38] <encompass> hi
[21:39] <matrix_> I have 3hdd  (or was it  2:S) On around 500gb
[21:39] <itsjustme> what gets added before the http when updating the repository sites?
[21:39] <OldSpice> phusion: hold on, let me go boot back on ubuntu and tell you what i see.
[21:39] <Viper550> Okay, you remember when I (ironically) was having problems with the ATI driver on my ATI Raedon 7000 video card (and I had to use the Vesa driver)?
[21:39] <comicinker> void^: and the code: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22947/
[21:39] <usr> I am in need of help concerning sound issues
[21:39] <MacTheMad> could someone please tell me how to do a network configuration from the command line (terminal) I know all the settings I need to enter I just need to know the command (sudo ???? ???? etc.)
[21:39] <RazzoRz> White_eagle:  the 37 gig has a lock on it .. i want that to merg with the 104 gig...
[21:39] <encompass> usr: just ask
[21:39] <Phusion> Viper550: the vesa driver should work with mosthardware, but doesn't have 3d accel or much 2d performance at all
[21:39] <encompass> usr: we will do our best
[21:39] <Phusion> !ask | usr
[21:39] <ubotu> usr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:40] <white_eagle> I got a mad idea, does anyone know anything similar to quakes ~ for linux's terminal?
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !pidgin > Jack_Sparrow
[21:40] <void^> comicinker: uh.. "gcc -Wall -g -lgst -o gstreamer_cli_test gstreamer_cli_test.c" there's not a single -I there. did you set $INCLUDE or are you hoping gcc will find your header files magically?
[21:40] <HPM_> If my home router forwards port 2200 to my desktop on 22 (so 2200 -> 22), is there a way to use that ssh connection to tunnel my web traffic from work in such a way that I can browse my home lan from work (say to connect to my router remotely) ?
[21:40] <encompass> white_eagle: tilda
[21:40] <white_eagle> encompass: wow!
[21:40] <white_eagle> jeez
[21:40] <encompass> white_eagle: ;)
[21:40] <matrix_> ohh well gona try find out how to install my Vnc server (and how it work) so i can Use my "good" keyboard
[21:40] <Phusion> HPM_: an easier way might be to just install VNC and remotely use your home machine
[21:41] <Viper550> Yeah, but do you know if there are known issues with the Raedon 7K and the ATI driver? When I originally started it up, it wouldn't go into X (it just turned off the monitor with no signal), until I safe moded to dpkg-reconfigure X (and select Vesa)
[21:41] <white_eagle> trevortwining has quit ("what does this button do?")
[21:41] <encompass> matrix_: have you tried synergy?
[21:41] <usr>  I have an Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[21:41] <white_eagle> lolz
[21:41] <encompass> usr: I have the same
[21:41] <matrix_> ill do that aright away
[21:41] <usr> and there is no sound
[21:41] <encompass> usr: let me get you what I did to fix it
[21:41] <Phusion> Viper550: well, you may have compat issues
[21:41] <usr> thanks
[21:41] <jakonj> bwt is there any cnc programmers here right now?
[21:42] <kst-> command & conquer???
[21:42] <white_eagle> i love the matrix screen saver for ubuntu
[21:42] <encompass> usr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> comouter numerically controlled
[21:42] <OIM> is there a channel for windows problems
[21:42] <encompass> usr: jsut remember you ahve to do that every time there is a kernel update
[21:42] <HPM_> Phusion: I need a solution that I can setup purely through an SSH connection. I can't setup a VNC without tweaking my home router, correct?
[21:42] <white_eagle> but, does anyone know can I make a moving background?
[21:42] <encompass> unless they fix it soon, but I doubt it will happen
[21:42] <jakonj> jack_sparrow: yes
[21:42] <proprietarysucks> whats the package called with libc headers?
[21:42] <Phusion> HPM_: correct
[21:42] <matrix_> found it :D
[21:43] <RazzoRz> can anyone help me with Gparted!!
[21:43] <MacTheMad> could someone please tell me terminal command to set up networking?
[21:43] <Phusion> HPM_: this isn't exactly an ubuntu related question, more of a SSH tunneling question, have you asked google?
[21:43] <white_eagle> OIM: ##windoze oh, ##windows
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jakonj: HAvent done any for a long time   faunc
[21:43] <comicinker> void^: yes;) but when I did a small app with libusb, it did so. so I wondered why It's not working now. so can I include "/usr/include/*/*" ?
[21:43] <encompass> RazzoRz: ask don't ask to ask
[21:43] <OIM> thanks white_eagle
[21:43] <encompass> MacTheMad: what are you needing to do?
[21:43] <matrix_> now the hard part to find out were it did install it lol
[21:43] <HPM_> Phusion: Yes, I wasn't able to think of a search query that returned anything relevant.
[21:43] <usr> thanks encompass
[21:43] <lovedeatm> what the delete command
[21:43] <RazzoRz> i love that.. thats the only responce i can get... Is not to ask to ask . just ask!.. lmao
[21:43] <ptr1234> hi, do you know any program that would save a web page and all web pages linked on it?
[21:44] <Shadow147> how do I remove a program that I installed be using sudo make install
[21:44] <comicinker> MacTheMad: sudo ifconfig et0 ....
[21:44] <cafuego> matrix_: dpkg -L <packagename>
[21:44] <white_eagle> encompass: bad grammar:  "what are you needing to do?" :D
[21:44] <Phusion> HPM_: ooo search query, someone with a vocabulary, awesome. so, did you check this page out? http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20030309.html
[21:44] <cafuego> Shadow147: Manually, with a lot of effort.
[21:44] <comicinker> MacTheMad: sudo ifconfig eth0 I meant
[21:44] <HPM_> Phusion: The whole point is so I can get into my router from here. I tried lynx but the router's interface doesn't work in lynx.
[21:44] <encompass> white_eagle: tilda :P
[21:44] <Dark-Dx> any lucj with a via chrome graphics card?
[21:44] <jakonj> i´m still trying to find some programs but.. I found apt360 but their irc channel is working on some weird hours (for my time zone).
[21:44] <Phusion> yeah, the router might have a TFTP server or something, but that doesn't help-
[21:44] <Dark-Dx> any luck with a via chrome graphics card?
[21:45] <encompass> RazzoRz: is it a wireless network?
[21:45] <void^> comicinker: libusb is a small library that only has one header file in /usr/include. for bigger libraries you usually want to use pkg-config. anything else is only guesswork (as in, randomly adding paths to the include path until everything is found).
[21:45] <HPM_> Phusion: I did. I was never able to get it to work with http
[21:45] <RazzoRz> encompass:   HUH
[21:45] <MacTheMad> encompass: installed ubuntu server edition on another machine & I couldn't get setup to take during install (prolly cause of windows install on another hard disk) & I only know how to do it from the gui
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jakonj: that is more of a niche , not sure many people know what a tpp is...
[21:45] <comicinker> void^: I see
[21:45] <Phusion> HPM_: I've never actually done that before, so I'm sorry I can't help much
[21:45] <matrix_> AWSOM THANK YOU:)
[21:45] <matrix_> AWSOM THANK YOU:)
[21:45] <encompass> MacTheMad: ok that is alot more informative... let me get you a link
[21:46] <RazzoRz> encompass:  Not sure G parted has something to do with my wireless network
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> encompass: OT.. but are you in San Diego
[21:46] <Dark-Dx> any luck with a via chrome graphics card?
[21:46] <encompass> RazzoRz: oh sorry
[21:46] <proprietarysucks> whats the package called with libc headers?
[21:46] <encompass> Jack_Sparrow: nope... finland
[21:46] <MacTheMad> ty encompass & comicinker
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> encompass: Sorry, thought I knew you
[21:47] <RazzoRz> encompass:  Gut if you can throw me a bone about G parted.. i will let ya
[21:47] <RazzoRz> BUT**
[21:47] <brobostigon> gparted doesnt have anything to do with wireless networking
[21:47] <proprietarysucks> nvidia install says I need to install my distro's libc headers
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: nothing to do with wireless
[21:47] <encompass> MacTheMad: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[21:47] <encompass> MacTheMad: about half way down
[21:47] <RazzoRz> DUDE.. your all kidding me...
[21:47] <void^> comicinker: usually, -dev packages install a .pc file in /usr/lib/pkgconfig. you can use 'pkg-config --cflags <library>' to get -I and friends, and 'pkg-config --libs <library>' to get -l/-L and friends. makes things easy and portable.
[21:47] <RazzoRz> never asked anything to do with my wireless ....
[21:47] <MacTheMad> ty again encompass
[21:47] <jakonj> jack_sparrow: i have some nice MS dos programs but... How to start them under Dosemu is a question... Stupid emulation (it´s so hard)
[21:48] <RazzoRz> my original Question was ...:::::
[21:48] <encompass> RazzoRz: what do you need to do with gparted?
[21:48] <RazzoRz> I have one hard drive.. the main Partition is /dev/sda3 with 37gigs on it.( 2 gigs remaining )  the other half is /dev/sda1 with 104 gig's on it... can can i merge them without formatting!!
[21:48] <matrix_> Thank you all
[21:48] <matrix_> bye
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jakonj: dosbox, wine or any of the vm's should work
[21:48] <encompass> RazzoRz: not that I know of...
[21:48] <infbliss> hello all, I had tried Breezy Badger two years back. Although I was much impressed with the user interface, it was sluggish compared to XP. Please let me know the responsiveness of the 7.10 version as compared to XP
[21:48] <RazzoRz> the 37 gig has a lock on it
[21:49] <encompass> infbliss: hehe... depends on your computer
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> infbliss: get the live cd and check it out..
[21:49] <encompass> infbliss: what kind of computer do you have?
[21:49] <Lycalopex> infbliss: its like the difference between an plymouth duster 340 and  gremlin
[21:49] <infbliss> encompass: I have a 2 gigs laptop with 120Gb hard disk
[21:49] <encompass> infbliss: also remember that the live cd IS slow... cause it is a cd
[21:49] <encompass> infbliss: and your ram?
[21:49] <Phusion> infbliss: it's faster, more things work out of the box now (3d accel + compiz) and there's a nice Windows migration tool in install that will move My Docs over to linux
[21:49] <jakonj> jack_sparrow: wine failed and i still have to try in dosemu (or dosbox)
[21:49] <encompass> infbliss: you should be jsut fine
[21:50] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi, I need help
[21:50] <encompass> infbliss: I find XP slow
[21:50] <ReVo-Eirik> Are someone available?
[21:50] <Lycalopex> infbliss: there is no reason you cant install ubuntu and have it usable on even 128mb ram you just might want to use xubuntu instead but yeah livecd will be slow
[21:50] <Phusion> !ask | ReVo-Eirik
[21:50] <ubotu> ReVo-Eirik: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:50] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: that's nice... what can we do for you?
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jakonj: YOu will find something that will work for you
[21:51] <encompass> Does anyone know if the livecd has imagemagick installed on it?
[21:51] <white_eagle> !pony
[21:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <Phusion> lol
[21:51] <Lycalopex> encompass: i dont think so. you can install it on the livecd though
[21:51] <encompass> Lycalopex: dang it...
[21:51] <comicinker> void^: wow. I thought I will never understand what pckconfig acutally does. thanks. no I have to look for the correspondending name of the gstreamer library
[21:51] <Lycalopex> encompass: no net access?
[21:52] <jakonj> encompass: there is no imagemagik on livecd!
[21:52] <encompass> Lycalopex: I am making the memaker and avatar program and it would be nice to have that on the livecd because memaker could use it for the install process
[21:52] <Lycalopex> ah
[21:52] <PurpleFool> Is there a channel with active xen users? ubuntu-xen seems a little quiet.
[21:52] <jakonj> before i go i need to ask you: what irc client are you using (@all users)?
[21:52] <encompass> If anyone hasn't tried it... they should give it a try... memaker.org we need your advise and artwork!
[21:53] <white_eagle> !pony
[21:53] <jakonj> i use sirc but i need to somehow color nicks...
[21:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:53] <Phusion> jakonj: X-Chat
[21:53] <dan> bitchX!
[21:53] <Phusion> jakonj: BitchX is groovy too, and irssi
[21:53] <encompass> irssi on my 600mhz lappy with 200mb ram
[21:53] <Phusion> dan = the man
[21:53] <encompass> 150 days uptime woot!
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jakonj: I use Konversation as I used to use mirc in XP
[21:53] <LycoLoco> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 7.10 and when I try to boot into it, I get dumped into BusyBox 1.1.3. If I press Alt + F1, I'm taken to a s creen that says "Loading, please wait...". I took the advice of someone on the forums and did aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[21:53] <ReVo-Eirik> OK, here's my question: When I boot with the install CD (everything's OK with it, I've checked) and click install in the startup screen, I don't end up in a graphic installer, but in some DOS-like environment. Could you tell me how to get out of it?
[21:53] <hipshooter> uh hi...may I ask about ubuntu help here?
[21:53] <LycoLoco> but that didn;'t work either
[21:53] <hipshooter> I have a quick question.
[21:54] <proprietarysucks> nvidia install says I need to install my distro's libc headers
[21:54] <proprietarysucks> whats the package called with libc headers?
[21:54] <encompass> hipshooter: shoot from the hip dude
[21:54] <_MMA_> encompass: I saw you post to the ML. You might want to talk to people in #ubuntu-desktop, #ubuntu-devel or maybe #ubuntu-artwork. But it will be damn slow for the next week so it might be best to wait.
[21:54] <talcite> hey, is anyone else able to access www.harrysufehmi.com?
[21:54] <Phusion> !ask | hipshooter
[21:54] <ubotu> hipshooter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:54] <encompass> _MMA_: I will sure enough :D
[21:54] <hipshooter> I just installed ubuntu on an external on another laptop
[21:54] <LycoLoco> oh crap, I forgot to chroot the directory
[21:54] <talcite> It's been unresponsive for a few days for me, but I haven't seen any news about it going down
[21:54] <LycoLoco> brb
[21:54] <hipshooter> and i want to use it on my desktop
[21:54] <jakonj> ok konichiva people :)
[21:54] <hipshooter> but there's no boot loader or whatsoever to launch Ubuntu from the external; the GRUB loader has error
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVo-Eirik:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and select vesa mode 1204 max res and 16 bits if asked
[21:55] <hipshooter> so I'm wondering how to change settings so I could launch ubuntu from whatever computer on a portable hard drive
[21:55] <Phusion> hipshooter: probably not the best idea to install to an ext drive
[21:55] <hipshooter> oh?
[21:55] <Phusion> hipshooter: use the LiveCD
[21:55] <Phusion> hipshooter: it has many drivers that are computer specific
[21:55] <encompass> hipshooter: you need do a special type of install
[21:56] <hipshooter> what kind of special install?
[21:56] <ReVo-Eirik> When I try to install, I end up in a text-thing
[21:56] <encompass> hipshooter: let me see if I can find something that might help
[21:56] <ReVo-Eirik> Could you help me?
[21:56] <Phusion> the LiveCD is the best way for a portable ubuntu install, having a USB stick helps for perm config
[21:56] <hipshooter> well the thing is I want to use the my external for space
[21:56] <hipshooter> it'd be nice to use one central ubuntu between laptops and desktops
[21:57] <mrdinkles> I need to make a 700mb partition on meh hardrive-- Want to duel boot backtrack2-- Anyone know of a good partition walk through for newcomers?
[21:57] <encompass> hipshooter: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[21:57] <Phusion> hipshooter: ehhh you're better off doing an install on each drive imo
[21:57] <encompass> mrdinkles: partitioning at install is pretty straight forward
[21:57] <ReVo-Eirik> HELP ME, WHEN I TRY TO BOOT WITH THE CD, I CHOOSE INSTALL AND END UP IN A TEXT ENVIRONMENT INSTEAD OF A GRAPHIC INSTALLER!
[21:57] <ReVo-Eirik> I just had to be heard
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVo-Eirik: Not appreciated...
[21:58] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: you could get booted for that... ironic how that aplies to what your saying
[21:58] <Phusion> ReVo-Eirik: not the way to receive help
[21:58] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: tell me aobut your computer
[21:58] <ReVo-Eirik> It's a store bought HP
[21:58] <brobostigon> ReVo-Eirik: you may have the alternate cd??
[21:58] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: what kind of graphics card do you have... do you know?
[21:58] <Phusion> heh, probably running the alt cd
[21:59] <ReVo-Eirik> It's an Nvidia
[21:59] <ReVo-Eirik> GeForce 6600
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> encompass: he was already given... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg            but chose to ignore it
[21:59] <ReVo-Eirik> It's pretty new
[21:59] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: where did you get the cd?
[21:59] <hipshooter> Oh, I better guess i should ask another ubuntu question here
[21:59] <encompass> hipshooter: ask away... jsut don't ask to ask to ask to ask
[22:00] <vorudude> ... or the server version?
[22:00] <hipshooter> i installed ubuntu on a gateway laptop and the resolution doesn't go higher than 800 x 600 or whatever, but it could go higher than that
[22:00] <hipshooter> i tried doing reconfigure-dpkg and such
[22:00] <Phusion> hipshooter: from command line sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:00] <Phusion> !fixres | hipshooter
[22:00] <ubotu> hipshooter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:00] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: what cd did you use... where did you get it from?
[22:00] <hipshooter> but the resolution doesn't get higher, then the GDM goes bork
[22:00] <comicinker> void^: could you please have a look at my makefile: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22950/
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> hipshooter: did you try setting it to vesa mode and not a specific card?
[22:01] <Phusion> hipshooter: refer to ubotu's link
[22:01] <hipshooter> yeah, what i'm wondering, is it's possible that ubuntu doesn't have drivers for my laptop
[22:01] <encompass> hipshooter: what is your graphics card?
[22:01] <ReVo-Eirik> I got the CD from the STudent society in norway
[22:01] <mrdinkles> encompass: So for backtrack-- Just click on install and itll give me a partition option?
[22:01] <encompass> ok
[22:01] <hipshooter> this VIAS brand...but when I manually chose graphics card (it couldn't auto detect)
[22:01] <mrdinkles> encompass: I dont want my linux removed :(
[22:01] <hipshooter> to VIAS, it's still stuck in text, the GDM wouldn't start
[22:01] <encompass> backtrack... have no idea... never used it
[22:01] <hipshooter> i did this like two times with different installs
[22:01] <Phusion> no, he's asking you to be sure
[22:01] <Phusion> mrdinkles: yes, make sure to chose Manual Partition Editing
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hipshooter: VESA mode?
[22:02] <slimjimflim> can anyone suggest any good documentation for configuring apache2 w/ ssl on gutsy?
[22:02] <ReVo-Eirik> Help, could someone help me with my installation?
[22:02] <Phusion> mrdinkles: the other ones will arrange your space automatically, which you may not want to do if you have data on the drive
[22:02] <sn0> slimjimflim apache.org docs are very good :)
[22:02] <hipshooter> VESA is weird, it actually produces graphics but it's of WINDOWS loading screen...it was the only one that didn't display in text
[22:02] <sn0> the ubuntu wiki however has steps for LAMP + SSL
[22:02] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: I thought we were
[22:02] <slimjimflim> sn0 is there gutsy-specific info there?
[22:02] <hipshooter> but it didn't bring back the GDM
[22:02] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: tell you what...
[22:02] <hipshooter> also, there's no sound for the gateway laptop either
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> hipshooter: see the link for setting !res above
[22:03] <brobostigon> ReVo-Eirik: if it boot to cli, then its the alternate cd, and it meant to do that, if its the live cd and goes to cli, insted of gnome , then somethuings wrong somewhere.
[22:03] <sn0> slimjimflim a quick search on help.ubuntu.com shows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/apache2/SSL
[22:03] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: personal messages
[22:03] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: you there?
[22:03] <AKX> Heya. Is there a graphical tool in Ubuntu for setting up ad-hoc WLAN?
[22:04] <encompass> AKX: I think network manager does it
[22:04] <Phusion> AKX: sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[22:04] <hipshooter> alright thanks guys, i'll try these links out
[22:04] <slimjimflim> sn0 k thanks
[22:04] <sn0> np
[22:04] <encompass> ReVo-Eirik: you there?
[22:04] <AKX> Apparently the default network manager doesn't do it, anyway, encompass
[22:05] <AKX> (Xubuntu, though, if it matters)
[22:05] <silent_> is there a place to view applied updates and perhaps uninstall an update? A recent update (within the last few days) has disabled my sound card. I have reinstalled libasound2 and alsa, but the device is not detected. I have a feeling it is a kernel-level problem
[22:05] <silent_> The sound card is the Creative Audigy
[22:05] <encompass> AKX: you can try wifi-radar but not sure if that would do it... I don't remember it doing that
[22:05] <JeevesMoss> does anyone know what package mencoder is apart of?  I'm running a bash only server and I only need mencoder and the required files
[22:05] <Phusion> AKX: wifi-radar
[22:05] <AKX> Okay, thanks :)
[22:06] <Phusion> you want to be an AP? or just connect?
[22:06] <rukuartic> Oy, any server gurus here? It looks like /etc/resolf.conf is missing in the CD I downloaded... Because of that I couldn't resolve DNS and I think its a bug, a few other people on a forum reported having it too.
[22:06] <Phusion> cuz wifi radar only connects you to an AP
[22:06] <Phusion> rukuartic: you may have incorrect DNS servers specified
[22:06] <vorudude> I'm having issues getting my interal WiFi to be recognized by the system--  Wireless networks isn't an option in "NetworkSettings"    I think I see the wirelss device in device manager, a WLAN Adapter bade by Realtek, new Gateway Laptop.  Cheap. (Celeron processor)
[22:06] <AKX> Well, I can use iwconfig anyway, just wondering if there was a graphical tool. So well, thank you :)
[22:06]  * AKX waves.
[22:07] <Phusion> rukuartic: you can try putting in 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as DNS servers and see if that fixes it
[22:07] <mrdinkles> Phusion: See this is were im worried.. I installed linux and had them automatically partition and it erased windows...
[22:07] <PurpleFool> Why does a xen domU boot hang after printing "         DSsDSsDSsDSs" on the console? 7.10 install on core2 duo repos xen tools.
[22:07] <mrdinkles> Phusion: at least i think it did, unless windows is hidden somewhere
[22:07] <rukuartic> Phusion: No, its not that I have a problem, its a bug...
[22:07] <Phusion> mrdinkles: if Windows isn't an option at boot, its damaged or gone
[22:07] <rukuartic> Phusion: I fixed it by running 'touch /etc/resolv.conf'
[22:07] <Phusion> rukuartic: welll, are you sure? have you tried alt dns servers?
[22:08] <Phusion> so you created a resolv.conf
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I installed Pidgin 2.0.2 in Feisty...  I hope it does not come back to bite me later....  Any others try it...?
[22:08] <rukuartic> Phusion: No, its not DNS resolution. When I ran dhclient it spewed out an error message saying /etc/resolv.conf didn't exist, and it couldn't write to it.
[22:08] <Phusion> rukuartic: right, then you created one, only now its blank
[22:08] <JeevesMoss> does anyone know what package mencoder is apart of?
[22:09] <Phusion> you need the following lines in your resolv.conf
[22:09] <Phusion> search yourdomain.net
[22:09] <comicinker> can somebody help me with my makefile: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22950/
[22:09] <Phusion> I don't know what your ISP is, so they know what your search domain is
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !find mencoder
[22:09] <nickweb> hey guys and gals - i know the flash plugin installation isnt working - but i downloaded the rpm from adobe and aliened it - but it still didnt instal for firefox - any reccomendations?
[22:09] <ubotu> Found: mencoder
[22:09] <mrdinkles> Phusion: =( i miss it a little, except now that i have compiz *tear* its so beautiful. So for the the partition, do i have to make a partition before i try to install, or hope backtrack has a partitioner that will make room without removing anything?
[22:09] <Phusion> rukuartic: nameserver your.nameserver.ip
[22:09] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  hey Jack, how's your night going?
[22:09] <Phusion> mrdinkles: ahhhh thats touchy.. yeah compiz is nice eh?
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nickweb: there is a workaround.. BUT, it can come back to bite you later.. and it has been tested to work only with Firefox at this point
[22:10] <germ77> hey i lost the top of my windows like the X and everything when i rebooted, how do i enable that again?
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Long time no see buddy
[22:10] <nickweb> Jack_Sparrow: back to bite me?
[22:10] <Phusion> mrdinkles: the best way to do it is have Windows installed, shrink the partition to make room for Linux, create an ext3 and swap partition, then install linux
[22:10] <Phusion> mrdinkles: the GRUB boot loader will find Windows and give you the option
[22:10] <PurpleFool> comicinker: What's up with your makefile?
[22:10] <Phusion> and as a general comment to everyone having trouble editing GRUB config files
[22:10] <Phusion> there's a great program for gnome
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nickweb: yes, when they do fix it and release it you may well... get hosed..
[22:10] <Phusion> called GrubED
[22:10] <pawalls> bouchecl, Hey
[22:10] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  yea man.  the servers been up and running so far.  and now that I've started a new job, I'm trying new things.  currently, I just need to get mencoder installed and the package managment system won't let me install it
[22:11] <Phusion> which is a graphical GRUB config editor
[22:11] <Phusion> check it out.
[22:11] <nickweb> Jack_Sparrow: is the workaround posted anywhere?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !info mencoder
[22:11] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3277 kB, installed size 8148 kB
[22:11] <Scumie> hi.. any way to recover admin directory ? Friend states he was uploading via ftp across lan and when he came back to check progress had been logged out and couldnt log back in via ftp, only could login via telnet. disc space suggests that dir/files would still be there however i am unable to find them. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
[22:11] <MacTheMad> encompass: I went to that site & followed instructions but somethings not right... got a min?
[22:11] <Lycalopex> Scumie: lost and found?
[22:12] <Scumie> nothing there
[22:12] <JeevesMoss> ubotu: you suck.
[22:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:12] <Phusion> rukuartic: hows it coming?  put those lines into resolv.conf?
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> nickweb: Since you already hosed it up with the rpm I will show you what I have.. please /j #Voyager
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Behave...
[22:12] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  lol, trust me, there's LOTS I'd like to say to that bot.
[22:12] <comicinker> PurpleFool: it is not working: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22963/ using variables. but the output is like that: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/22964/
[22:12] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  the error I'm getting is that the package is refed by another package.
[22:13] <mrdinkles> Phusion: I was using Windows as an example-- its long gone, I have linux right now, but i want to install ?Backtrack2 so i can dualboot backtrack and linux-- Now i dont want to replace linux with backtrack-- so do i need to make a special partition or room and name it something to install backtrack onto?
[22:13] <Phusion> mrdinkles: ubuntu support chan :/
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: So you have dependency issues?
[22:13] <Phusion> mrdinkles: you know, all the security stuff in backtrack is very much installable in Ubuntu.
[22:14] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow: no idea.  it jsut says that mencoder is apart of another package.  of course, it won't tell you WHAT package it's apart of.
[22:14] <comicinker> PurpleFool: any idea?
[22:14] <gucci> hello der
[22:14] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  I just need the encoder part.  I'm encoding trafic cams into a time lapse movie
[22:14] <Enigma--> I am having trouble forwarding X11 from a CentOS box to an Ubuntu box, when I ssh -X (or -Y) the DISPLAY var is not getting set on the CentOS box.  I have X11Forwarding enabled on both sides and been through all the forum threads on the topic.  Any Ideas?
[22:14] <PurpleFool> comicinker, looking at it.
[22:15] <gucci> need help on gconf-editor.it not saves my choices
[22:15] <lovedeatm> My flash drive wont pickup. it not visible in fstab or mtab it shows up in the disk and file system HELP!!
[22:15] <Flare183> !repeat | lovedeatm
[22:15] <ubotu> lovedeatm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:15] <TAFU|POK> hi, does anyone knows whats the meaning of this symbol: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/9/0/e90c9e4f4fa398e387938829896f3604.png
[22:16] <white_eagle> .
[22:16] <MacTheMad> encompass: how do I enter information after I enter "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces"? something comes up but it's nothing like what's on the site
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: LEt me see what I can find out by installing it here.
[22:17] <purpleposeidon> The fudge was a disaster. ;)
[22:17] <osmosis> where can I download feisty server 386 iso ?
[22:17] <gucci> woohoo
[22:17] <Flare183> !download > osmosis
[22:17] <gucci> gconf-editor saving problem
[22:17] <rukuartic> Phusion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/177767 There... I put in a bug report.
[22:17] <comicinker> TAFU|POK: always bigger than
[22:17] <PurpleFool> comicinker I do''t see missing variable subs.  It looks like you don't have some build dependencies installed.  Did it ever work?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I already have 2:1.0 installed
[22:17] <TAFU|POK> comicinker .....$
[22:17] <mrdinkles> Phusion: Im lazy phusion!!! they have cool backgrounds and im dieing to play with it... :P  ima check out the backtrack installer-- see if it can make a partition, if it doesnt, and i lose linux-- ima reinstall it and find you and send you multiple angry messages hahaha ^^
[22:17] <Phusion> rukuartic: ok, I still dont think its a bug
[22:17] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks.  you know this is just a server, so I don't need a lot of other stuff running on it
[22:18] <Phusion> mrdinkles: you think backtrack is cool? you obviously haven't played with compiz-fusion and gnome-look.org
[22:18] <Phusion> mrdinkles: INSANE amounts of cool stuff there, mate
[22:18] <comicinker> TAFU|POK: or: nver zero
[22:18] <mrdinkles> Phusion: dwaahhh??? they have aircrack in compiz-fusion?
[22:18] <comicinker> PurpleFool: no. I just tried. I thought I have everything installed...
[22:18] <TAFU|POK> idiot this is not the same symbol as u say
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: YEa, but you are going to need some of that stuff to get the job done
[22:19] <Phusion> mrdinkles: hahaha they have aircrack for linux, compiz-fusion is just an OpenGL layer for the X server system
[22:19] <Phusion> mrdinkles: you can install kismet, aircrack, all that stuff in Ubuntu man
[22:19] <Phusion> mrdinkles: and ubuntu is Debian based, unlike Backtrack which is just a LiveCD and hasn't been updated in years
[22:20] <Phusion> super easy install
[22:20] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  I'll have it play death rock every 15 mins then in the rack. that should make the sys admins go insaine trying to find it
[22:20] <esoterik> backtrack was updated march of this year :)
[22:20] <mrdinkles> Phusion: im not getting rid of linux-- replace teh cube!!!! never! but backtrack is nice, neat and has everything there on a cd-- why would i need to install separatly-- aside from all this, how can i make a  700mb partition of free disk space with a unque name O.o
[22:20] <mrdinkles> Phusion: my backtrack cd is right here and can see us typing... careful
[22:20] <Phusion> like I said before Michael, this is an ubuntu support channel :)
[22:21] <Phusion> so if you love it so much, go find the Backtrack support chan.
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I dont know how to bring up the dependencies for mencoder from cli... If you really want I can figure out how to post them for you, but knowing how much you need would be trieal and error for me
[22:21] <comicinker> PurpleFool: i have dev packages of gstreamer installed. what else could I need?
[22:21] <encompass> MacTheMad: don't use vi
[22:21] <mrdinkles> Phusion: forget i ever brought up backtrack-- How can i make a partition?
[22:21] <encompass> MacTheMad: replace it with nano
[22:21] <Phusion> vi = the great satan
[22:21] <Phusion> mrdinkles: uhm, well gparted is good I hear.
[22:21] <mrdinkles> Phusion: thanks i look into it
[22:21] <MacTheMad> encompass: ty I'll try that
[22:22] <Viper550> Having some issues
[22:22] <mrdinkles> Phusion: that was intense
[22:22] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  there should be an install package that has it included and all the deps then
[22:22] <flush> yo im trying to compile amsn 0.97rc1 and it says it need TkCximage... how do i find this package
[22:22] <Flare183> !ask | mrdinkles
[22:22] <ubotu> mrdinkles: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:22] <Flare183> sorry
[22:22] <Flare183> wrong nick
[22:22] <Phusion> mrdinkles: ?
[22:22] <Flare183> !ask > Viper550
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: It may be part of the desktop meta package or restriced formats stuff w32codecs etc..
[22:23] <Viper550> Basically, so I could have xfce, I installed xubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: do you have gstreamer and w32 and all that installed?
[22:23] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  not that I know of.  I just want to encode to MPEG4.
[22:23] <Viper550> I'm having several issues. First, Gnome isn't starting. Second, when I launch OpenOffice, it has NO ICONS.
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I am just guessing based on what I saw in synaptic dependency list
[22:24] <ganjaman> something is wrong with gnomes Xmanager
[22:24] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ahhh, ok.
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Just.. encode mpeg4...
[22:24] <ganjaman> if i install or modify xwindow crap
[22:24] <ompaul> Viper550, that is xfce - do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop and maybe you also need to know
[22:24] <r00723r0> i have a laptop and i'm trying to get xorg to run on it from the livecd
[22:24] <ompaul> !usplash > Viper550
[22:24] <r00723r0> but it's telling me no devices detected
[22:24] <r00723r0> what do i do?
[22:24] <Viper550> I didn't get a different usplash.
[22:25] <ganjaman> now i try to write protect the xconf
[22:25] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  unless you can think of an easier way of converting a glob of jpegs into a time lapse video from shell that's not too CPU intensive
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Try asking ompaul   he might know better than myself
[22:25] <agent> What program will allow me to translate KDE/QT .ts files? qt4-linguist is the only one I found, but it is not available as a deb.
[22:25] <void^> comicinker: eh, pkg-config isn't an option to gcc. it's a command. you could use $(shell pkg-config --cflags ...), for example.
[22:25] <r00723r0> anyone know?
[22:25] <white_eagle> i want to get bliss
[22:25] <white_eagle> how can I do that
[22:25] <white_eagle> :D
[22:25] <Flare183> agent: install the deb
[22:25] <white_eagle> just kiddin
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > white_eagle
[22:25] <Flare183> agent: then you can use the program
[22:25] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, no worries.  it's no rush right now.
[22:26] <bouchecl> agent: yes qt-linguist is available. I'll check which package
[22:26] <agent> Flare183: I do not understand, I just said that it is NOT available as a deb. :)
[22:26] <ganjaman> goddamn starforce
[22:26] <tacone> white_eagle: sudo apt-get install a_real_life
[22:26] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm just compiling a video from the government's traffic cams
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I think you are going to install a lot of overhead to do it
[22:26] <tacone> white_eagle: then bliss should compile :-)))
[22:26] <Flare183> agent: then put it as a bug to be packaged
[22:26] <white_eagle> is bliss dangeutruous?
[22:26] <bouchecl> agent: it's part of qt4-dev-tools
[22:27] <sroberts> hey, if my firefox crashed, how can i kill it? its not going away
[22:27] <ose> There's some app that I can't find that lets extra mouse buttons work.. X something is all I remember. Anyone know?
[22:27] <rukuartic> ! language > ganjaman
[22:27] <Lycalopex> sroberts: pkill firefox or killall firefox or use -9 if that doesnt work
[22:28] <white_eagle> sroberts: lol
[22:28] <white_eagle> it already crashed
[22:28] <white_eagle> didn't it?
[22:28] <Phusion> sroberts: I know a complicated way to do through the command line, does that help?
[22:28] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  is there any light weight encoders that'll do what I want that you can think of?
[22:28] <rukuartic> sroberts: actually, use 'killall firefox-bin' ... its a weird one.
[22:28] <bobbob1016_> sroberts, killall firefox-bin
[22:28] <fjfalcon> why ubuntu dont wont to use 2.6.23.13
[22:28] <Flare183> !enter > white_eagle
[22:28] <sroberts> Lycalopex: pkill worked, i was doing 'kill firefox' which wasn't working
[22:28] <ganjaman> how can i add uxtheme to wine?
[22:28] <Lycalopex> sroberts: xkill is of course more fun
[22:28] <rukuartic> sroberts: if you try to start it again though, you'll get an error saying its already running.
[22:28] <Flare183> ganjaman: wineconifg
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Not that I know of.. but that isnt my area.. not that I have an area :)
[22:28] <Flare183> ganjaman: wineconfig
[22:28] <sroberts> i forgot the command to view processes that are running
[22:28] <agent> bouchecl: Thank you, I will try that out!
[22:28] <ose> There's some app that I can't find that lets extra mouse buttons work.. X something is all I remember. Anyone know?
[22:28] <r00723r0> i have a laptop and i'm trying to get xorg to run on it from the livecd, but it's telling me "no devices detected"... what do i do?
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ps
[22:29] <rukuartic> sroberts: If you do, just press alt+f2 and type 'killall firefox-bin'
[22:29] <rukuartic> sroberts: ps aux
[22:29] <Phusion> ose: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:29] <Phusion> ose: it will ask if you want to emu 3 buttons
[22:29] <ubunt1> sera a tutti c'è qualcuno che può darmi una mano?
[22:29] <r00723r0> Phusion, that won't work
[22:29] <jatt> !it
[22:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:29] <Phusion> oh?
[22:29] <rukuartic> !fr | ubunt1
[22:29] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, no worries, I'll let it sit there and harvest a few gigs of pics, then I'll work on it.  thanks again.  have a good night
[22:29] <ubotu> ubunt1: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:29] <ganjaman> i don't have a theme
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: you too
[22:30] <rukuartic> jatt: Whoop XD I thought it was french.
[22:30] <r00723r0> Phusion, he's talking about other buttons
[22:30] <bouchecl> seems obotu mixes Italian and French :)
[22:30] <r00723r0> emu 3 buttons is for a two-button-only mouse
[22:30] <rukuartic> No that was me...
[22:30] <Viper550> Okay <ompaul>, Gnome starts up a bit, but the Panels only show up as white rectangles (where there are supposed to be panels)
[22:31] <ose> r00723r0: Do you know the program I'm talking about? I had it but didn't writ e the name down after I formatted.
[22:31] <comicinker> void^ thanks. its compiling fine!
[22:31] <white_eagle> LINUX IS NOT AN OS
[22:31] <Phusion> uhm... yes it is.
[22:31] <white_eagle> ok, we got that out
[22:31] <Flare183> !caps > white_eagle
[22:31] <white_eagle> its kernel
[22:31] <r00723r0> Phusion, it is not
[22:31] <brobostigon> linux is an os and kernel
[22:31] <r00723r0> GNU/Linux is the OS
[22:31] <ne0h> linux is a kernel
[22:31] <r00723r0> Linux is the kernel
[22:31] <Phusion> white_eagle: no... the kernel is the heart of the Linux OS.
[22:31] <white_eagle> gnu/linux is the os
[22:31] <white_eagle> yes
[22:31] <ne0h> only the kernel
[22:31] <rukuartic> Oy guys. Oooon topic.
[22:31] <Phusion> oh for crissake
[22:31] <Daeshim> lol
[22:31] <ganjaman> Linux is a operating system, it doesn't need a frontend
[22:32] <Phusion> ganjaman <--------
[22:32] <ganjaman> linux from scratch
[22:32] <white_eagle> linux ISN'T an os
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> People.. please keep it on topic and stop playing symantics
[22:32] <ne0h> linux is only the kernel
[22:32] <Flare183> !offtopic
[22:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:32] <rukuartic> !topic
[22:32] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[22:32] <Phusion> you're not an os white_eagle
[22:32] <ompaul> Viper550, guess you have not done sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop yet
[22:32] <white_eagle> gnu/linux is AN OS
[22:32] <rukuartic> Ty Flare183
[22:32] <ganjaman> psychosemantic blockage
[22:32] <Flare183> np
[22:32] <white_eagle> we got a debate heree
[22:32] <Phusion> ganjaman: HAHAHAH!!!
[22:32] <tacone> ubunt1: read my private message
[22:32] <r00723r0> white_eagle, good job at completely disrupting #ubuntu
[22:32] <Phusion> ganjaman: back out! back out!
[22:32] <r00723r0> and there was no debate
[22:32]  * Flare183 says quit it
[22:32] <ompaul> !offtopic
[22:32] <sroberts> no one is going to say gnu/linux all the time, it's loosely referenced as linux. get over it.
[22:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:32] <white_eagle> r00723r0: lolz
[22:33] <ganjaman> whatever
[22:33] <rukuartic> here comes the ban hammer...
[22:33] <sroberts> :P
[22:33] <Flare183> yeap
[22:33] <ganjaman> a cat is not a dog
[22:33] <ompaul> lets get back ontopic
[22:33] <white_eagle> sroberts: but let him say GNU is the os
[22:33] <Flare183> i agree with ompaul
[22:33] <white_eagle> not linux
[22:33] <ganjaman> but both are animals
[22:33] <ompaul> ganjaman, white_eagle OI!
, DID actually. I seem to have found a possibility, since gnome-settings-daemon seems to have been broken in a way
[22:33] <white_eagle> i disrupted you
[22:33] <white_eagle> lol, it was easy
[22:34] <ganjaman> i am the great cornholio
[22:34] <r00723r0> wow
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> NOw can we get back on topic
[22:34] <Flare183> yeah
[22:34] <brobostigon> look up the linux/kernel-os thing up in the dictionary, that will tell you.
[22:35] <MacTheMad> encompass: when done editing in nano & I want to save do I just exit or does WriteOut = save?
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bobbob1016_: Enough
[22:35] <ompaul> Viper550, just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure WhatEverYouSuspect
[22:35] <infinital> i just recently installed ubuntu, and booted into it. when i booted in i installed everything in the synaptics packages, and the nvidia drivers. now I can't boot.  everytime i boot, it goes thru the loading screen, to a black screen, no login screen etc. the monitor gives me no signal. when i hit ctrl alt delete nothing happens, and when i hit the power button i temporarily see what it is doing. i see a couple messages with OK's next to them, then a ton of
[22:35] <Highlife> Does anyone know how to convert a windows registry file to ascii?
[22:35] <infinital> what did I do wrong, and how do I fix it?
[22:35] <sroberts> MacTheMad: you just hit ctrl+X and then hit Y and enter (assuming it has the correct name you want and all)
[22:35] <hdevalence> how long to fixing the flash issue?
[22:35] <kane77> what do I view .ps files with? (postscript) or how do I convert them to pdf?
[22:36] <rukuartic> infinital: Sounds like xorg -- the name of the program that runs the graphical part of linux, broke when you installed the drivers.
[22:36] <Flare183> infinital: try reinstall xorg
[22:36] <hdevalence> just curious
[22:36] <ompaul> hdevalence, as long as it takes note the topic - blame adobe
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> infinital: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    set it to vesa mode 1024 max res to get to the gui
[22:36] <Flare183> infinital: and the drivers
[22:36] <infinital> how do I do that when I can't even login?
[22:36] <ganjast> hi
[22:36] <infinital> i am running off of a live cd right now
[22:36] <Flare183> infinital: then use the terminal
[22:36] <replman> Hi! I have problems reading the cpu-temperature using sensors. I always get "no sensors found" :-(
[22:36] <hdevalence> ompaul: it's obviously adobe's fault. I'm just curious.
[22:37] <rukuartic> infinital: Well you'll need to get a little down and dirty with the terminal in that case... It's gonna be a little rough.
[22:37] <Highlife> Does anyone know how to convert a windows registry file to ascii?
[22:37] <infinital> okay, i got my linux partition to mount using this live cd, so i can look at it.
[22:37] <infinital> can anyone walk me thru it>?
[22:37] <rukuartic> infinital: I can try, but I'm no good with xorg things.
[22:37] <ompaul> !windows | Highlife
[22:37] <ubotu> Highlife: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[22:37] <Ose> For anyone looking for the mouse app.. It's btnx. I found it.
[22:38] <Flare183> infinital: you can't you have to boot into ubuntu without the cd
[22:38] <MacTheMad> ty sroberts: linux noob... windows always held my hand & asked me if I was sure I wanted to save 2 or 3 times
[22:38] <webspiderus> Is there any way to install ubuntu without having to redo my partition table? ( I want to dual boot ubuntu with vista, which I have installed right now)
[22:38] <infinital> flare: i cant boot into ubuntu, thats my issue
[22:38] <rukuartic> Flare183: no, he can /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf through the mounted part...
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> infinital: when you boot.. non-live you should be able to hit escape and get to recovery mode from a grub menu which is the cli
[22:38] <soccer_hawk10> hey all, i'm having trouble installing vmware.  i get an odd error " Depends: vmware-server-kernel-modules but it is not installable"
[22:38] <sroberts> MacTheMad: hehe, yeah..you can use Gedit or something and feel more at home
[22:38] <Flare183> rukuartic: oh yeah ok
[22:38] <silent_> is there a place to view applied updates and perhaps uninstall an update? A recent update (within the last few days) has disabled my sound card. I have reinstalled libasound2 and alsa, but the device is not detected. I have a feeling it is a kernel-level problem
[22:38] <silent_> The sound card is the Creative Audigy
[22:38] <infinital> okay, so i reboot and hit esc?
[22:39] <Flare183> infinital: yep
[22:39] <infinital> do i do this when the screen is black, or when it is loading? i see a short grub prompt when I boot, but its not very long at all, barely a flash
[22:39] <bkruse> can you embed a vnc viewer into a webpage?
[22:39] <Flare183> infinital: and go down to where is says "ubuntu (kernel version) recovery mode"
[22:39] <CraiZEH> Hello
[22:39] <ganjast> i have no glue
[22:39] <soccer_hawk10> hey all, i'm having trouble installing vmware. i get an odd error " Depends: vmware-server-kernel-modules but it is not installable" help?
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > infinital:
[22:40] <CraiZEH> Can I dual boot ubuntu & Vista ?
[22:40] <webspiderus> Is there any way to install ubuntu without having to redo my partition table? ( I want to dual boot ubuntu with vista, which I have installed right now)
[22:40] <sroberts> CraiZEH: yes.
[22:40] <Flare183> !repeat > soccer_hawk10
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> CraiZEH: yes
[22:40] <Flare183> !dualboot > CraiZEH
[22:40] <brobostigon> !dualboot | CraiZEH
[22:40] <ubotu> CraiZEH: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:40] <Flare183> already done that
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: Only if you have a spare partition that you can format ext3 and 2 gigs or less for a swap partition
[22:40] <Slart> webspiderus: depends on how your partition table looks at the moment.. if there is free space, then sure..
[22:41] <infinital> okay so i just hit esc, is there any specific time? after i get the little intel thing, which leads to my BIOS?
[22:41] <skarjoko> After installing avant-window-navigator, my graphics seem to look a little worse now, looking like its 16 bit colors or something. How do I fix this?
[22:41] <Slart> webspiderus: and by free space I mean unpartitioned space
[22:41] <webspiderus> well, I managed to shrink one of my partitions, so I have about 7+ gigs of unallocated space
[22:41] <CraiZEH> seems like a pain
[22:41] <CraiZEH> to get it to work with vista
 I'm on a lunix based operating system which means i get laid as many times as I have to restart my computer | //timer 3 1 <marky-b> same, but i run windows
[22:41] <BloodElf> Shit
[22:41] <Slart> webspiderus: that will get you up and running.. but it's not a lot
[22:41] <BloodElf> O well
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: not enough for more than a small test...
[22:41] <brobostigon> vistas is a pain allround
[22:41] <CraiZEH> How well is newer hardware supported?
[22:41] <CraiZEH> no vista is quite the OS
[22:41] <CraiZEH> i <3 it very much
[22:42] <webspiderus> well - would I use guided partitioning in that case?
[22:42] <Slart> CraiZEH: depends.. I don't think there's support for creatives x-fi for example.. what else have you got in the computer?
[22:42] <webspiderus> or manual partitioning? because those are the only two options. and if I choose manual, it doesn't seem to let me do anything but create a new partition table
[22:43] <Slart> webspiderus: afaik it will let you change the existing one.. which you will have to do anyway
[22:43] <CraiZEH> I have a Geforce 8800GTS, Core 2 Duo E6600, 4GB Ram, only SATA hdd's (jmicron controller)
[22:43] <CraiZEH> using the AC97 audio from the mainboard :)
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > CraiZEH
[22:43] <Slart> CraiZEH: sounds kind of like my setup.. except the intel processor
[22:43] <CraiZEH> !annoypeopleforonetinyenter > Jack_Sparrow
[22:43] <CraiZEH> GO HOME PIRATE :P
[22:44] <Flare183> !guidelines > CraiZEH
[22:44] <Slart> CraiZEH: try the live cd first.. that way you'll see what works and what doesn't
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> CraiZEH: Behave... every time you speak it is two lines...
[22:44] <CraiZEH> I dont need guidelines, thank you
[22:44] <mckdreaddy> need dell m1210 mic help
[22:44] <rukuartic> Well, this is gonna be short lived...
[22:44] <CraiZEH> Jack_Sparrow, and I enjoy, Its freedom of speech, in practice, on IRC
[22:44] <Flare183> yeahp
[22:44] <mckdreaddy> need dell m1210 mic help
[22:44] <Slart> oh man.. and I wasted all those keystrokes on that dude.. =)
[22:45] <minus> Hi there, I'm having a bit of a problem here.. I'm trying to enable Big-desktop, But I cant get it to work. Can anyone help me out?
[22:45] <minus> I tried using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773544 But I cant get it to work
[22:45] <ikonia> minus: using the nvidia drivers and twinview ?
[22:45] <Slart> minus: big desktop? a compiz feature?
[22:45] <silent_> is there a place to view applied updates and perhaps uninstall an update? A recent update (within the last few days) has disabled my sound card. I have reinstalled libasound2 and alsa, but the device is not detected. I have a feeling it is a kernel-level problem
[22:45] <minus> ikonia, ATI card
[22:45] <confused> hey ppl
[22:45] <ikonia> Slart: oooh, sorry, I'm not up on the ati drivers
[22:45] <minus> Slart, no. Dual Monitor and use them as a single big one.
[22:45] <confused> any help concerning compiz-fusion?
 I'm on a linix based operating system which means i get laid as many times as I have to restart my computer
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: thanks... I needed a break....
 same, but i run windows
[22:46] <ikonia> Slart: ati version  of twin view
[22:46] <GodFather> LOLOL
[22:46] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: ha ha ha, tag
[22:46] <Slart> ouch.. ati.. I don't do ati-cards.. sorry
[22:46] <Vinno> !myth20 Promo_Only_-_Dance_Radio_November_2007_-_01_-_Erika_Jayne_-_Stars_(Moto_Blanco_Radio_Edit).mp3
[22:46] <ompaul> !offtopic | GodFather
[22:46] <ubotu> GodFather: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:46] <Vinno> osp
[22:46] <Flare183> !spam > Vinno
[22:46] <sroberts> anybody know if powertab will work on linux
[22:46] <Slart> minus: I'm sure there are other people here who know ati-cards..
[22:47] <minus> Slart, Yeah, there must be someone :P
[22:47] <Flare183> minus: i know alittle about them
[22:47] <ikonia> minus: what problems are you having, I know the official issues with ati, just not the physical weird ones
[22:47] <minus> Flare183, ok.
[22:47] <confused> i've formatted my pc for million times 2 install compiz-fusion .. followed a million guides but still didnt work :(
[22:47] <Flare183> !compiz > confused
[22:47] <ikonia> confused: what version of ubuntu are you using
[22:48] <Flare183> or try it here
[22:48] <confused> 7.10
[22:48] <Flare183> ok
[22:48] <Flare183> sorry about the enter
[22:48] <ikonia> confused: compiz-fusion is already installed, you don't need to install it
[22:48] <mrpur> i have java appllication to run so i went in advanced in creation shortcut and choose allow, but doesn't work.. some have a solution ?
[22:48] <confused> hmmm sorry im a noob
[22:48] <ikonia> mrpur: ?
[22:48] <Flare183> ikonia: Can I help?
[22:48] <confused> how should i start it?
[22:48] <ikonia> Flare183: with what ?
[22:48] <ikonia> confused: compiz-fusion is already installed in ubuntu 7.10
[22:49] <Flare183> with "confused"
[22:49] <minus> ikonia, Flare183; The problem is that, when I follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773544 . At the end,when I enable the monitors, something just makes it all go weird. Either the resolution is wrong. Or only one of the monitors are functioning. etc.etc.
[22:49] <ompaul> mrpur,  An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[22:49] <komputes> GodFather: BloodElf: Whats linix? and lunix?
[22:49] <ikonia> confused: go to system --> administration and check advanced desktop effects, enable it
[22:49] <ikonia> Flare183: sure !
[22:49] <mrpur> ikonia, advanced is in the java sun control panel
[22:49] <Flare183> ok
[22:49] <confused> ok hold on
[22:50] <komputes> GodFather: get the quote right - it's on bash.org - <komputes> I'm on a unix based operating system which means i get laid as many times as I have to restart my computer <marky-b> same, but i run windows
[22:50] <ikonia> mrpur: what are you actually trying to do
[22:50] <ganjast> minix
[22:50] <Montego> If I don't want to use  compiz-fusion, or any of it's effects, how do I turn it off?
[22:50] <rukuartic> !offtopic
[22:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:50] <ganjast> a precessor of linux
[22:50] <confused> after system administration .. which tab should i choose?
[22:50] <ikonia> komputes: GodFather can you please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:50] <eldkraft> montego, jsut choose disable
[22:50] <ikonia> Flare183: you want to deal with confused  ?
[22:51] <Flare183> ikonia: not completly
[22:51] <ikonia> Flare183: ok
[22:51] <Oli``> Is there an update log? I set my updates to auto-install but I'd like to see what just updated
[22:51] <mrpur> i have to run often a java applicatio, but the only way i can do is to go in java control panel, view, run. instad i'd like to have a shortcut in the desktop
[22:51] <ikonia> confused: do you see something along the lines of "advanced desktop effects"
[22:51] <Montego> eldkraft I haven't seen the option just to disable?
[22:51] <confused> nop
[22:51] <Flare183> confused: ccsm
[22:51] <Flare183> right?
[22:51] <r00723r0> ok... this is weird
[22:51] <mrpur> ikonia, i have to run often a java applicatio, but the only way i can do is to go in java control panel, view, run. instad i'd like to have a shortcut in the desktop
[22:51] <FLUxXxX> hello all! please help! how can i discover all computers on a LAN?
[22:51] <ikonia> mrpur: what is your shortcut linked to java $application for example
[22:51] <r00723r0> i'm modprobing nvidia and the module isn't found
[22:51] <r00723r0> but i just installed glx and kernel-common
[22:51] <ikonia> r00723r0: di you have the restricted drivers installed
[22:52] <eldkraft> montego: system/preferences/appearance/visual effects and choose none
[22:52] <rukuartic> FLUxXxX: What do you mean discover?
[22:52] <r00723r0> ikonia, what's the restricted driver package?
[22:52] <ikonia> r00723r0: kernel-common is not nvidia
[22:52] <r00723r0> ikonia, nvidia-kernel-common
[22:52] <ikonia> r00723r0: what version of ubuntu are youusing
[22:52] <ikonia> you using
[22:52] <r00723r0> and nvidia-glx
[22:52] <mrpur> ikonia, now there is not a shortcut
[22:52] <ikonia> eldkraft: thank you
[22:52] <eldkraft> np
[22:52] <r00723r0> ikonia, 6.06 (it's an old livecd)
[22:52] <Montego> eldkraft will look thanks.'
[22:52] <ikonia> r00723r0: ok - that sounds reasonable
[22:52] <ikonia> mrpur: what have you linked the short cut to (short cut command)
[22:53] <confused> nothing called advanced desktop effects under "administration"
[22:53] <ikonia> r00723r0: you've installed nvidia-glx , what happens when you modprobe it
[22:53] <britton> I need help with this world of warcraft error.  I keep getting these messages then it goes back to the command prompt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49082/
[22:53] <ikonia> confused: visual effects
[22:53] <r00723r0> ikonia, the module isn't found
[22:54] <eldkraft> confused: you aare using 7.10 right
[22:54] <ikonia> r00723r0: as I recall don't you have to reboot to see that module, which is a problem in a livecd
[22:54] <confused> yeah 7.10
[22:54] <daniel92> does anyone know a good place to find out how to set up dual monitors? I want to use the external on my laptop.
[22:54] <ikonia> britton: join #winehq and ask
[22:54] <Montego> eldkraft got it ty
[22:54] <Slart> hmm.. I have a nvidia card and there are all kinds of auto-overclocking/power adapting/quality adapting stuff on it.. are there any config files for this? or I have to use the nvidia X system settings utility?
[22:54] <britton> ok thanks ikonia
[22:54] <eldkraft> confused : and you are tryong to enable desktop effects?
[22:54] <confused> yeah
[22:54] <r00723r0> ikonia, so what do i do?
[22:54] <ikonia> Slart: overclocking....seriously ?
[22:54] <georgel> hello
[22:54] <Flare183> confused: then run this: compiz --replace
[22:54] <ikonia> r00723r0: a good question, as your not running a running kernel that can support those modules
[22:55] <eldkraft> confused: system/preferences/appearance/visual effects and choose extra
[22:55] <r00723r0> sweet.
[22:55] <confused> do u mean visual effects should be set to extra settings?
[22:55] <Slart> ikonia: yes.. I'm into underclocking at the moment.. but yes
[22:55] <confused> ok done that
[22:55] <confused> how can I run the compiz manager and change the themes?
[22:55] <eldkraft> confused: no wobbly windows?
[22:55] <ikonia> Flare183: over to you
[22:55] <Flare183> ok
[22:55] <georgel> ubuntu 5 don't have 4D grafics
[22:55] <confused> yeah wobby windows working fine
[22:55] <georgel> ?
[22:55] <georgel> like 7
[22:55] <eldkraft> confused: so what is your problem?
[22:55] <Flare183> confused: umm  run emerald --replace
[22:56] <ikonia> georgel: 4d graphics ?
[22:56] <georgel> 3D
[22:56] <r00723r0> ikonia, fine
[22:56] <r00723r0> so i'm running with nv now
[22:56] <webspiderus> is there a reason why a ubuntu installation wouldn't recognize my current partitions?
[22:56] <georgel> :D but have 4 desktops
[22:56] <r00723r0> but i'm still getting the no screens found error
[22:56] <ikonia> georgel: ubuntu5 doesn't have the 3d graphics effects like ubuntu 7.10
[22:56] <confused> i need 2 install emerald first
[22:56] <ikonia> r00723r0: thats a weak driver
[22:56] <daniel92> confused: get compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:56] <Flare183> do that then
[22:56] <r00723r0> ikonia, i know
[22:56] <Flare183> and that too
[22:56] <confused> ok hold on
[22:56] <Flare183> k
[22:56] <r00723r0> ahh, just realized
[22:57] <r00723r0> this video card is newer than this nv and nvidia
[22:57] <r00723r0> fuck, guess i gotta use 7.10
[22:57] <mrpur> ikonia, i have to create a shortcut to a java application that is in java control panel => view => nameofapplication
[22:57] <r00723r0> that's weird though
[22:57] <daniel92> that is the advanced desktop effects settings
[22:57] <r00723r0> it should still work
[22:57] <ikonia> r00723r0: sorry, the livecd is the limiting factor
[22:57] <ompaul> !langauge | r00723r0
[22:57] <ubotu> r00723r0: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:57] <ikonia> mrpur: thats not the way to do it
[22:57] <ikonia> ompaul: well spotted
[22:57] <r00723r0> sorry
[22:57] <ikonia> mrpur: you need to link to "java application" as a shortcut rater the "application"
[22:57] <r00723r0> ikonia, i'll try to use vga
[22:57] <TIRC_3338> salve
[22:58] <ikonia> r00723r0: try vesa driver
[22:58] <TIRC_3338> !lista
[22:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <r00723r0> ikonia, well, vga still doesn't work, i'll try vesa
[22:58] <ompaul> !botabuse | TIRC_3338
[22:58] <ubotu> TIRC_3338: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:58] <mrpur> ikonia, i don't know how to do it, can you help me ?
[22:58] <daniel92> anyoe know anything about getting multiple monitors to work on a gateway laptop?
[22:59] <confused> I made emerald --replace and now no windows borders
[22:59] <ikonia> mrpur: your creating a short cut, instead of linking to "your_application" link to "/usr/bin/java your_application"
[22:59] <r00723r0> ikonia, well... it did SOMETHING
[22:59] <TIRC_3338> !lista
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <r00723r0> my screen is black
[22:59] <r00723r0> and i'm hearing sound
[22:59] <r00723r0> i don't see my desktop
[22:59] <ikonia> r00723r0: vesa is normally slow but solid
[22:59] <r00723r0> this is very odd
[22:59] <r00723r0> the monitor seems to be shut off
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> HIt escape and really see odd
[23:00] <Flare183> ikonia: help confused i got to go
[23:00] <georgel> the ubuntu version 7 works on a P4 1700 Mhz with 394 SDRAM????
[23:00] <ikonia> confused: what's up
[23:00] <yubwyub> Anyone knows if there is a Amiga-emulator to download to ubuntu? are there any special repository I should enable then somehow?
[23:00] <ikonia> Flare183: ok
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> georgel: yes
[23:00] <georgel> yes
[23:00] <confused> well no windows borders after I runned emerald --replace
[23:00] <georgel> oo good
[23:00] <ikonia> confused: intel card ?
[23:00] <confused> intel card and nvidia fx
[23:01] <ikonia> confused: nvidia fx ?
[23:01] <confused> yup
[23:01] <georgel> I have a FX 5200
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> georgel: run the livecd and check it out
[23:01] <georgel> 128 Mb end Pixel Shading 1
[23:01] <ikonia> confused: this is a common problem with intel video cards, sometimes fixable, others not.
[23:01] <georgel> :D
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> georgel: Note: running the live cd will  be slower than a hard drive install
[23:01] <georgel> it works
[23:01] <georgel> '?
[23:01] <ikonia> confused: your best bet is to ask in #compiz-fusion for some specialist help.
[23:01] <confused> no the motherboard is intel but the video card is nvidia
[23:02] <abcd> Do you have any problems with playing broadband movies on websites. I have no problem with playing them on Windows XP with Windows Media Player. When i switch to Ubuntu the same multimedia are buffering every one minute. I use kmplayer with xine (or sometimes mplayer engine). Any advices?
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> georgel: YEs nvidia 5200 will work.. that may be legacy driver but we can find that out
[23:02] <ikonia> confused: for the no boarder issue, I strongly suggest asking the specialists in #compiz-fusion
[23:02] <confused> ok
[23:02] <confused> 1 more question
[23:02] <ikonia> confused: some solid guys in there
[23:02] <nope327> hello there mates
[23:02] <void^> yubwyub: uae
[23:02] <confused> after running emerald --replace
[23:02] <confused> ok
[23:02] <confused> i'll go there and see thanx for the help
[23:03] <webspiderus>  is there a reason why a ubuntu installation wouldn't recognize my current partitions?
[23:03] <MacTheMad> can anyone tell me if I'm behind a router do I want to enter the dns addresses from my service provider or do I want to enter the router (gateway) address
[23:04] <ruif13> hi ;)
[23:04] <Phusion> MacTheMad: enter it where?
[23:04] <thor> MacTheMad your service provider unless your router does dns
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: are you running scsi controllers or raid setup
[23:04] <ruif13> anyone have a good themes site for gnome?
[23:04] <nope327> ok so i ihave a question about the broadcom adapter... i have a dell ispiron e1705 with a broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX wireless card... i can see wireless networks, that i normally connect to, but when i type in the wep key... it can never connect me....
[23:04] <nope327> anyone have any ideas
[23:04] <webspiderus> well, definitely not running a raid setup - i only have one sata 500 gig drive
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[23:04] <infinital> can someone give me a definitive answer on how to fix this XORG stuff? i ran the recovery console and nothing works there
[23:04] <infinital> i tried sudo wget and typed in the XORG url
[23:04] <infinital> nothing
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: What os is on the system now.
[23:05] <webspiderus> Vista
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: How many partitions...
[23:05] <MacTheMad> thor: no router doesn't do dns as far as I know but when setting up the router I did need to type them there
[23:05] <Phusion> infinital: what do you want to do? whats the error? what are you running
[23:06] <webspiderus> right now, I have a primary 11.82 GB primary, partition, 420 gig logical partition, 20 gig logical partition, and about 7 gigs of unallocated space
[23:06] <webspiderus> i used to have a 20 gig primary, and 420 and 20 gig logical partitions
[23:06] <infinital> phusion, i asked my question earlier and was told to go to the recovery console,b ut that didnt work.  i installed ubuntu, booted in, installed all drivers and packages that it said i needed, specifically nvidia drivers, rebooted, and now it wont get past this black screen that it gives me
[23:06] <infinital> it wont respond to ctrl alt del
[23:07] <nope327> ok so i ihave a question about the broadcom adapter... i have a dell ispiron e1705 with a broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX wireless card... i can see wireless networks, that i normally connect to, but when i type in the wep key... it can never connect me....  i am running the latest ubuntu (gimpy?)
[23:07] <infinital> so i hit the power button and it brings me a whole bunch of prompts it entered, and then it shuts down with some network issue
[23:07] <Phusion> infinital: what nvidia hardware?
[23:07] <infinital> 7600 gt
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: No idea why it isnt seeing them.. live cd gets you to a desktop right?
[23:07] <Phusion> hrmm, that should work ok
[23:07] <Phusion> not sure infinital :/
[23:07] <webspiderus> i had XP running on the primary partition, and I have vista running on the 20 gig logical partition - but then I took out XP, so the primary partition's empty. I decided to run shrink it so I could get some unallocated space
[23:07] <Phusion> not enough info
[23:07] <infinital> what else do you need?
[23:07] <infinital> i was told it was a xorg error
[23:07] <infinital> but i have no idea how to fix that
[23:07] <webspiderus> yeah, I get to a desktop (it displays a little weird, but I can get around in it)
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> get to a terminal screen...  and type fdisk -l    last letter is l
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> L
[23:08] <nope327> ok so i ihave a question about the broadcom adapter... i have a dell ispiron e1705 with a broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX wireless card... i can see wireless networks, that i normally connect to, but when i type in the wep key... it can never connect me....
[23:08] <webspiderus> once I boot to the livecd?
[23:08] <dn4> Dell now ships with Ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:08] <dn4> http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/12/19/38924.aspx
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[23:08] <cafuego> of you though that was a 1 (one), or I (capital i) please change your font.
[23:08] <dn4> GNU revolution!
[23:08] <MacTheMad> thor: that's the way I have other machine setup now but can't connect to install packages nor can I ping an internet address
[23:09] <webspiderus> ok, one sec
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cafuego: What?
[23:09] <infinital> so no answers...?
[23:09] <Ljorring> how do I install AIGLX on Ubuntu?
 You already got it if you have a recent version
[23:10] <ompaul> dn4, very old news ;-) can we stay ontopic please
[23:10] <Ljorring> Viper550: how do I enable it then?
 depends on your video card
[23:10] <Ljorring> Viper550:  radeon 9600
[23:10] <Viper550> hmm
[23:11] <nope327> ok so i ihave a question about the broadcom adapter... i have a dell ispiron e1705 with a broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX wireless card... i can see wireless networks, that i normally connect to, but when i type in the wep key... it can never connect me....  can some one please help me... i have been in so many forums... i just cant think of what i can do.... it just doesnt allow me to connect to the wireless network, i can see all of them around.
[23:11] <jorgp> is the new kernel update for gutsy corrupting things for anyone else?
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !wep > nope327
[23:11] <wols> nope327: install wireless-tools and edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[23:12] <dn4> what is some new news withubuntu
[23:12] <nope327> i am brand new to this... i have no idea how to do any of this
[23:12] <infinital> some news with ubuntu is that it doesnt work
[23:13] <martyn_> nope> i used to use wifi-radar - in a terminal type sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nope327: wols is good with that stuff....  I would trust him
[23:13] <jorgp> it seems the new kernel update completely messed up my / FS 2 times
 I would go with wols too - I am a newb too but have got a working wireless card :-). Deffo go with someone with greater experience.
[23:15] <mzanfardino> I have an unwanted user on my system and need to kick them off.  How do I force off another user?
[23:15] <xipietotec> I accidently deleted part of my ubuntu main menu, how do I reset it? I clicked reverte, but it did not come back
[23:15] <nope327> yeah i am installing the radar now
[23:16] <snkmad> i have grub problems: error 22: no such partition
[23:16] <nope327> i beleive that i have finished installing the wireless tools
[23:16] <nope327> where should i go from here
[23:17] <Ray_at_UW> #hardware
[23:17] <Ray_at_UW> excuse me, could someone point me in the right direction for hardware support?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[23:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[23:19] <lonejack_> hi, I've to install java runtime. What I've to do? Get it from sun site or it is possible to do this by synaptic? what's the name of the java run time? Thnak you
 wireless radar will be present on your network submenu --> run it.
[23:19] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: fdisk -l had no output
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !jave > lonejack_
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: sudo
[23:19] <webspiderus> sudo fdisk -l?
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[23:20] <daniel92> lonejack_: try the add/remove programs
[23:20] <gogeta> lonejack ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:20] <gogeta> all that fun for you
[23:20] <webspiderus> whoops, silly me.
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !java > lonejack_
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: sorry, I should have made myself clear, but as soon as I am done with you I am siging off
[23:21] <Benalex> Hello all, is there a program than can ping a range of ips, and scan for open ports?
 OK?
[23:22] <nope327> hey guys so... back with the WLAN thing... i still cant get it going.. it never
[23:22] <nope327> gives me an ip
[23:22] <Ray_at_UW> Hi, is there a way to detect what kind of motherboard I have?
[23:22] <xipietotec> I accidently deleted part of my ubuntu main menu, how do I reset it? I clicked reverte, but it did not come back
[23:23] <dcordes> is there a place in launchpad where I can mourn about laptop machine specific issues?
[23:23] <lonejack_> gogeta, how can I get these "ubuntu-restricted-extras"? Can I by Synaptic?
 Are you able to obtain an IP when security is switched off (temporarily - for testing purposes?).
[23:24] <jatt> Ray_at_UW: System->Preferences->Hardware Information contains information about the chipset and other parts of the motherboard...
[23:24] <nope327> what do you mean can i get an ip when it is off? when the WLAN card is on, i can see the networks...
[23:24] <nope327> but i cant connect
[23:24] <nope327> i am hardwired right now
[23:25] <dcordes> I wonder if support for hardware switchse for wifi and other peripheral is welcome in ubuntu. if so one should add up acer_acpi for acer machines
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> nope327: He is asking if you can connect if you turn off wep in your system
[23:25] <nope327> how would i go about doing that
[23:26] <nope327> oh you mean turning off the wep key?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nope327: I dont have time to start another conversation..
[23:26] <toni_> hi, would anybody know where to get that key: quinn.key.asc  the links I found wont exist actually.
[23:26] <nope327> alright thanks
[23:26] <martyn_> Jack - yes. I don't profess to know everything about WLAN. But I have got mine working after a while - with WPA.
[23:27] <eldkraft> xipoetotec: right click on upper bar, choose 'add to panel' and then scroll down to utilities and and choose the 'menu bar' with the ubuntu logo
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
 You would need to switch it off at the network router.
[23:27] <MacTheMad> can anyone tell me what else I have to edit other than "/etc/network/interfaces" and "/etc/resolv.conf"? to get internet connection working?
[23:27] <nope327> hmmm.... that i do not have access to...
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> martyn_: wep is worthless so he should change it anyhow
[23:28] <keithclark> Hi everyone.  I currently have a laptop running an ATI card and a Broadcom wireless adapter under PCLinuxOS.  I just received my Ubuntu 7.10 CDs and would like to install it as well.  Will it pick up on the current drivers, that work, for the video and wireless?
[23:28] <Phusion> keith80403: ubuntu 7.10 has a lot of stuff that works out of the box, I have an Acer Aspire 5100 w/ broadcom and ATI gfx
[23:28] <nope327> i have tried it at two different locations with working wep keys (i use them on vista)
[23:28] <dessnr> my old laptop has an ati-rage and it runs ubuntu just fine.
[23:28] <Phusion> keith80403: the ATI graphics work fine, but I've had issues getting wifi to work, but I dont think its a limitation of the chipset
[23:28] <dcordes> Phusion, do you have a switch for wifi?
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark: it is a live cd.. it runs in ram and will not touch the hd unless you tell it to install.
[23:28] <Phusion> dcordes: yes
[23:29] <dcordes> Phusion, does it work/is it required in ubuntu?
[23:29] <Phusion> it works, I just haven't gotten it to work yet
[23:29] <tsukasa_> hey guys - my ssh server is running *really* slowly.. if i do ls 3 or 4 times quickly in a small directory it will type like 1 character a second
[23:29] <nope327> keith: make sure your connected to the internet during installation... thats what got my graphics working
[23:29] <dcordes> Phusion, acer_acpi?
[23:29] <tsukasa_> what can i do the see whats wrong with it?
[23:29] <Chase> how can i add my custom SSL cert into the keyring on ubuntu? I need to be able to use it from the shell
[23:29] <keithclark> Phusion:  I tried the live version, and it did not use drivers for my ATI or Broadcom.  This will be corrected when I install?  I will hook it up to the net wired when I install.
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: Did I miss your response to sudo fdisk -l      ?
[23:30] <tsukasa_> i already rebooted the server and the router
[23:30] <Phusion> dcordes: I installed that yesterday I think--  it recognizes the wifi card, I just have issue connecting, even with wpasupplicant
[23:30] <dessnr> nope327:  thats nice to know.  perhaps thats why my ati on the old lappy went off without a hitch.
[23:30] <Phusion> keith80403: the livecd may not install them, otherwise you may need to go to "Restricted Drivers Manager" and turn them on
[23:30] <savageone> hey guys
[23:30] <olimpico> Can anybody tell me how to install ubuntu though a shell?
[23:30] <martyn_> Again - only as a temporary measure. If you can obtain an IP from the router with WEP or WPA switched off, then you know the problem is with security and not the connection in general.
 What wireless router do you have?
[23:30] <dcordes> Phusion, if your wifi switch is off you will see the card with iwconfig and also will be able to up it but won't be able to connect. Is that the case?
[23:30] <Benalex> Hello all, is there a program than can ping a range of ips, and scan for open ports?
[23:30] <Phusion> dcordes: no, its on.
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > olimpico
[23:31] <nope327> the one next to me is a linksys
[23:31] <dcordes> Phusion, turned on by acer_acpi?
[23:31] <Phusion> dcordes: I get ath0 in iwconfig
[23:31] <savageone> if I were to apt-get the linux restricted modules, and a different nvidia driver (called legacy) and my machine didn't boot up afterwards anyone know how I could solve it?  It starts to boot and sticks at the splash screen.
[23:31] <keithclark> Phusion: Ok, I will give it a shot.  Ubuntu installs along side another distro with no problems?
[23:31] <Phusion> dcordes: no, I installed acer_acpi yesterday, how do I enable it or use it, is it just a module?
[23:31] <tsukasa_> hey guys - my ssh server is running *really* slowly.. if i do ls 3 or 4 times quickly in a small directory it will type like 1 character a second. what can i do to see whats wrong with it?
[23:31] <Phusion> keith80403: yes, if you partition correctly.
[23:31] <Phusion> keith80403: GRUB should work fine.
 IMHO - I completely agree. No sec vs WEP are not a world apart from someone with a bit of knowledge. Hopefully once he is up and running we can sort out a harder security solution.
[23:31] <dcordes> Phusion, where did you get it? I think it should be added up on the cd
[23:32] <keithclark> Phusion:  Ok, that should be no problem.
[23:32] <Phusion> I googled for it
[23:32] <keithclark> Phusion:  I need to create a / and a /home partitions?
[23:32] <liquidfiree> not perse
[23:32] <Phusion> dcordes: I have a /etc/modules.acer_acpi
[23:32] <liquidfiree> but its better for your documents
[23:32] <Tornadochas3r01> hi
[23:32] <liquidfiree> so you can backup in case something goes wrong keithclark
[23:33] <liquidfiree> :)
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> martyn_: take care....
[23:33] <Benalex> Hello all, is there a program than can ping a range of ips, and scan for open ports?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> martyn_: My only point was wep could be keeping him out while at the same time being worthless as a security feature
[23:33] <dessnr> all:  a friend of mine installed winXP on one harddrive and ubuntu on a second one.  he said that grub does not boot.  windows does.  is it better to have it on one harddrive?  thats how i have it and i have had no problems.
[23:33] <keithclark> liquidfiree:  lol, no worries, this is my experimental machine.  If it runs on this laptop, it will have no problems on my other 4 machines!
[23:33] <dcordes> Phusion, everything on my aspire 5024 wlmi works ootb except of wifi button. really a pity
[23:34] <savageone> what is this addon I'm hearing about w/ crazy visual features, the "vista killer?"
[23:34] <liquidfiree> keithclark, allright well the / partition is just the installation partitation the /home is just like my documents kinda thingy on Windows
[23:34] <dcordes> Phusion, read acer_acpi-0.10/README
[23:34] <liquidfiree> saves your personal settings/ downloads
[23:34] <Tornadochas3r01> hey can someone help me with the apt-get command, install Virtual box and it failed and now i cant remove it or install anthing else this is the error i get :  The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:34] <liquidfiree> so its not really required :)
[23:34] <daniel92> savageone: compiz fusion?
[23:34] <Phusion> dcordes: where is that?
[23:34] <MacTheMad> can anyone tell me any files I need to edit other than "/etc/network/interfaces" and "/etc/resolv.conf" to get to the internet?
[23:34] <nope327> like i said though... and maybe i am just oblivious to what your saying, is that these wireless networks work with any windows computer... or even on leopard
[23:34] <keithclark> liquidfiree:  Understood.  Just like I currently have under pclos
[23:34] <Phusion> dcordes: on the ubuntu CD?
[23:34] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49086/
[23:35] <dcordes> Phusion, inside the tarball. no where you got it from.
[23:35] <Phusion> dcordes: ok
[23:35] <dcordes> http://aceracpi.googlecode.com/files/acer_acpi-0.10.tar.bz2
[23:35] <ubunt1> I have a problem with audio card sound, my card is a hda-intel..
[23:35] <ubuntu-user-test> MacTheMad:  probly not, what problems are you having?
[23:35] <dcordes> inside of that
[23:35] <dessnr> the visuals in gutsy are a bit of fun.  when you move the windows around, it's like moving jelly.
[23:35] <Phusion> dcordes: I got a deb
[23:35] <savageone> daniel there we go
[23:35] <Phusion> dcordes: man?
[23:35] <Tornadochas3r01> can anyone help me get apt-get back to normal so i can install things again
[23:35] <savageone> daniel:  any idea on my video issue?  I was having nvidia problems, changed the driver and now I'm screwed
[23:35] <Phusion> bah
[23:35] <dcordes> Phusion, I don't know if it creates a deb
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: You would show up now.. np...  so fdisk did see them...    so now run partition editor    ... gparted
[23:35] <Ax-Ax> anyone play ut?
[23:35] <Phusion> dcordes: no, I downloaded a deb
[23:35] <ShastaMcNasty13> Hey guys I need to uninstall Ubuntu (dont worry it's going back on) but how do I format the disk?
[23:36] <dcordes> Phusion, I don't know what is inside your deb
[23:36] <daniel92> savage: sorry, i use ati (probly worse)
[23:36] <khelll> how to install fonts like windows tahoma on ubuntu
[23:36] <ubuntu-user-test> ShastaMcNasty13: with fdisk, maybe from a live cd?
[23:36] <Phusion> dcordes: hehe yeah, I'm just saying, I don't have the readme because I have a deb
[23:36] <dessnr> Shast: boot your ubunu cd and reinstall, it will format it for you
[23:36] <liquidfiree> ShastaMcNasty13, just use gparted :)
[23:36] <liquidfiree> or a live cd
 You would need to switch security off at router. If you cannot access router directly then you will have to keep working through the WEP key issue. But note what <Jack> says - WEP is not very secure at all and can easily be beaten.
 Have you got WiFi Radar running now? It will ask for SUDO password.
[23:36] <ShastaMcNasty13> thank you!
[23:36] <daniel92> khelll: go to add/remove get windows fonts. search it
[23:36] <dcordes> Phusion, your deb will most likely consist on a compiled http://aceracpi.googlecode.com/files/acer_acpi-0.10.tar.bz2 or older version. So download that tarball and read the README
[23:37] <quittt> !português
[23:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about português - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:37] <quittt> !portuguese
[23:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[23:37] <Phusion> dcordes: got it, thx
[23:37] <Tornadochas3r01> please
[23:37] <nope327> ?
[23:37] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: well everything seems to check out on other machine but I can't ping google and I when I run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" instead of getting packages from the internet it wants to get them from my cd which doesn't have them
[23:37] <liquidfiree> I've got a question myself, anyone got any experience with Radus and Ubuntu or any linux distro in general. Because at my school, I can't login with ubuntu/ Vista works fine though.
[23:37] <Johnson_> hey does anyone know the command to bring up gnome-do. i went to their website and watched the tut video. sounds like the guys says the command is "super space" but i have no clue what that is
[23:38] <dcordes> Phusion, *consist of . Wouldn't it be great to have that deb with our distro?
[23:38] <ubuntu-user-test> macthemad, can you ping 64.233.167.99?
[23:38] <nope327> yeah the wifi radar is up and going
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Tornadochas3r01: Explain what all you did, as in changing sources.list etc .. Sorry, I dont have time to help you with this, just waiting for someone to get back to me on another issue
[23:38] <Phusion> dcordes: hehehe
[23:38] <nope327> just still it says without IP
[23:38] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: let me try
[23:38] <Phusion> dcordes: well, in this distro they got ati working, maybe next release will have working acer/broadcom :P
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: my broadcom's all work fine.. bcm43xx
[23:39] <trakinas> hello all! has anyone here used spumux before?
[23:39] <linux1989> hi
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Phusion: fwcutter worked like a charm
 are you able to see the network you wish to connect to?
[23:39] <nope327> i have a broadcom bcm4401
[23:39] <Tornadochas3r01> Jack_Sparrow: o i havent chaged any soruces lately i installed virtual box form a package from the website it ran fine then the install failed and boom now when i try to install another things with apt-get i get this message :  The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:39] <dcordes> Phusion, my notebook is existing since two years and acer_acpi even longer. I don't think I can hope for a change here.
[23:39] <Phusion> ???
[23:39] <dessnr> fesity ran ati for me no problem.  bear in mind that it is an old ati card.  8meg.  so it has been around long enough to be supported.  it works in gutsy as well of course.
[23:39] <nope327> yeah i can see all of them
[23:39] <Phusion> dcordes: yeah....
[23:40] <Phusion> dessnr: I'm talking integrated xpress 1100
[23:40] <nope327> just i cant connect... and i dont have access to open up the network... i just am allowed to use it
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Tornadochas3r01: that is the downside of going outside official sources
[23:40] <dessnr> phusion:  ahh ok
[23:40] <Phusion> dcordes: do you use ndiswrapper?
[23:40] <liquidfiree> woah i just cried because of a movie
[23:41] <liquidfiree> im such a wuss
[23:41] <MacTheMad> ubuntu_user-test: no, all 4 attempts came back destination host unreachable
[23:41] <liquidfiree> :(!
[23:41] <ubuntu-user-test> MacTheMad:  if not, then you may not have your gateway entered correctly in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:41] <Bucketpants> hi
[23:41] <Tornadochas3r01> Jack_Sparrow: well once bfore this happend and i got evrthing working again i just dont remember the command it was like dpkg or somehting idk
[23:41] <Bucketpants> is Gutsy safe to upgrade to?
[23:41] <grout> anyone here use wargus?
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Tornadochas3r01: Sorry, I dont have time to help you with this, just waiting for someone to get back to me on another issue
[23:41] <ubuntu-user-test> macthemad, look at this recommendation:  http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/319
[23:41] <tsukasa_> hey guys - my ssh server is running *really* slowly.. if i do ls 3 or 4 times quickly in a small directory it will type like 1 character a second. what can i do to see whats wrong with it?
[23:41] <Tornadochas3r01> ok
[23:41] <dcordes> Phusion, my chipset is bcm43* so I use bcm43xx module plus the firmware installed by automagic restricted-manager
[23:42] <dessnr> bucket:  it worked well for my main computer, (newer) but my laptop had some teething problems.  (old lappy)  most things ran fine, but it was a lot slower.  so now i have fesity back on the alppy and gutsy on my main machine.
 Highlight the one you need to connect to. Then click on edit and fill in the boxes - security type WEP, password etc. If you know the router supports it (most do) then choose DHCP - the router will allocate you an IP address. If the router is not your own then it is possible they have all been allocated to other users (they can be limited).
[23:42] <Bucketpants> k, thank you.
[23:42] <Phusion> dcordes: hrmm cuz its "Enabled" and "In Use" in my restricted manager...
[23:42] <Phusion> ahh thats right I have an atheros in this one
[23:43] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: ifconfig says my ip is 192.168.2.11 & my gateway is 192.168.2.1 - same as my windows install on the other hd only it works there
[23:43] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so i ran sudo gparted
[23:43] <Slart> MacTheMad: pastebin output of "ifconfig", "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and "route" ... that ought to give us some info
[23:43] <dcordes> Phusion, maybe you have one of the later atheros chipsets which are not yet supported in linux. lsmod | grep ath_pci ?
[23:43] <thom_> \join #django
[23:43] <Slart> MacTheMad: can you ping 192.168.2.1?
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: does it show your partitions on sda
[23:44] <webspiderus> no, it just says unallocated
[23:44] <webspiderus> 465.76 GiB
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: fyi  always use gksudo for gui apps...
[23:44] <ubuntu-user-test> yes MacTheMad it sounds like your not getting past your router
[23:44] <Phusion> dcordes: ath_pci                98336  0
[23:44] <Phusion> wlan                  206660  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[23:44] <Phusion> ath_hal               192720  3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[23:44] <Phusion> ack
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: Gparted is in the pull down menus...
[23:44] <Phusion> sorry!
[23:44] <MacTheMad> slart: no
[23:44] <ubuntu-user-test> MacTheMad: you can ping your other computer on the network though?
[23:44] <dessnr> jack_sparrow:  whats the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[23:44] <dcordes> Phusion, I have no idea why restricted-manager claims ndiswrapper is in use on your system then
[23:44] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: ok, then - thanks.
[23:45] <Slart> MacTheMad: no? you can't ping your gateway.. sounds like something is wrong .. can you ping your own ip?
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dessnr: sudo and a gui app can really really mess up your permissions..
[23:45] <Phusion> no, it just says the Atheros driver is in use, I haven't installed ndiswrapper
[23:45] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: not with ubuntu but I can with windows
[23:45] <dessnr> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks for that
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dessnr: np
[23:45] <ubuntu-user-test> oh
[23:45] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so I started it through the pull-down menus just in case, but it still just says 'unallocated 465.76 GiB'
[23:46] <hatua> hello
[23:46] <ubuntu-user-test> MacTheMad: like Slart said, pastebin your ifconfig output, /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/route
[23:46] <MacTheMad> slart: yes I can ping my ip
[23:46] <neur1> to refresh the screen . . . is there a command?
[23:46] <ubuntu-user-test> sorry * route only
[23:46] <dcordes> Phusion, <Phusion> "ahh thats right I have an atheros in this one" got this wrong
[23:46] <dessnr> Jack_Sparrow: when should sudo be used most?
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: download the gparted livecd and see what that shows, or use a windows partition program...   Vista does not play nicely with others....
[23:46] <hatua> how remove opera from ubuntu
[23:46] <Phusion> dcordes: ?
[23:46] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes.. I think we need to see those pastebins
[23:46] <Syco54645> anyone know how to fix azureus in gutsy 64bit?
[23:46] <Ax-Ax> my screen is real strange, it is wiewing to big so i can't see everything, but when the mouse aproaches the edge, it follows (as in age of empires)
[23:46] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: I had a windows partition program installed on Vista (not the built-in one) .. but what should I do with that?
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dessnr: sudo nano... sudo dpkg...   cli stuff that are not gui
[23:46] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: kinda hard to paste something when I can't even reach the site
[23:47] <ubuntu-user-test> haha
[23:47] <ubuntu-user-test> didn't think about that
[23:47] <dessnr> Jack_Sparrow: gotcha.  cheers.
[23:47] <Syco54645> i keep getting a core dump and the fix listed ont eh forums to use the new cvs did not work
[23:47] <Slart> Ax-Ax: sounds like you've got a virtual desktop that's larger than your screen.. or more probable.. your screen is in a lower resolution than you expected
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> webspiderus: premake your ext3's and a swap partition.. and see if the live gparted picks it up
[23:47] <ubuntu-user-test> old fashioned reading from the screen MacTheMad
[23:47] <Slart> !res | Ax-Ax
[23:47] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
 You still about?
[23:47] <dcordes> Phusion, thought you'd have ndiswrapperish card because you mentioned this above.
[23:48] <Phusion> ahhh
[23:48] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: what format should the swap partition be?
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> And to all...... a good night...
[23:48] <Ax-Ax> Slart: it was normal a moment ago, and i dont run a virtual desktop
[23:48] <Phusion> dcordes: nope, I just did a make install for ndiswrapper though, I coulda sworn it popped up in my menu last time I installed it, where does the executable go
[23:48] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: alright, good night
 Night - thanks for advice.
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> swap is swap.. no special format..
[23:48] <webspiderus> Jack_Sparrow: ah, ok. thanks for your help!
[23:48] <dessnr> Jack_Sparrow: night, thanks for the help.
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. goodnight
[23:49] <Slart> Ax-Ax: did you install something? new driver from nvidia? change anything?
[23:49] <Ax-Ax> i tried to play ut
[23:49] <dcordes> Phusion, into $PATH
[23:49] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: what should /etc/route look like? mine's blank
[23:49] <dessnr> Ax-Ax: do you play UT in ubuntu or windows?  just curious.  i know that diabloII works superbly in wine.
[23:50] <ubuntu-user-test> MacTheMad: sorry   just route
[23:50] <Slart> MacTheMad: sorry about that.. didn't think the whole pastebin through..
[23:51] <Slart> MacTheMad: I can pastebin my output and you can compare it to yours.. see what's different
[23:51]  * flyback is really starting to like ubuntu
[23:51] <MacTheMad> ubuntu-user-test: route or /route?
[23:51] <Syco54645> does anyone know how to fix azureus in gutsy 64 bit?
[23:52] <dessnr> Syco54645: does the 64bit version of gutsy run better or faster than the 32bit?
[23:52] <snkmad> anyone else here had problems booting ubuntu after latest kernel header update?
[23:52] <grout> its tearin up my heart when im with you but when we are apart i feel it too
[23:52] <Syco54645> dessnr, i have not tried the 32 on my dual core and do not intend to, it is fast on here though.
[23:52] <MacTheMad> slart: shouldn't be necessary... I can check it against this machine which is running... config is slightly diff but I should be able to compensate
[23:53] <brophat> anyone know how Linksys WMP54G wireless nic works with ubuntu?
[23:53] <Slart> MacTheMad: ok.. here's mine anyway.. might as well put it out there
[23:53] <Slart> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2894/
[23:53] <dessnr> Syco54645: understood.  i have the hardware to run the 64bit version, but are yet to test it, because the 32bot version runs beautiful so far.
[23:54] <Slart> MacTheMad: you haven't installed firestarter or anything similar?
[23:54] <Syco54645> dessnr, i suggest making the switch.  i have yet to run into something that doesnt work.  azureus appears to be broken across the boards
[23:54] <MacTheMad> not on that machine yet... I haven't been able to get that far
[23:55] <Slart> Syco54645: there are some stuff... electronic Id for my bank is one thing.. plugin is only available for 32-bit browsers
[23:55] <dessnr> Syco54645: I will try it on my main then.  I have not done much on that machine, in the way of data.  no need to backup.
[23:55] <Syco54645> Slart, what do you mean electronic id?
[23:55]  * flyback is really starting to like ubuntu :)
[23:56] <Slart> Syco54645: well.. in sweden we have this thing called "e-legitimation".. supposed to be an software certificate of some kind.. you use it for taxes and some banking stuff
[23:56] <dessnr> flyback: it's better than XP or Vista if you ask me.  Once you know what you are doing.
[23:56] <Spzatt> Howdy all
[23:56] <Syco54645> Slart, ah i see
[23:56] <MacTheMad> slart: mine ifconfing looks pretty much similar to yours but my route has fewer lines
[23:56] <flyback> yeah I dumped 2k and xp
[23:56] <snkmad> anyone else had problems booting ubuntu after latest kernel header update?
[23:56] <MacTheMad> oops: ifconfig
[23:56] <flyback> only going to run them in vm
[23:56] <Slart> Syco54645: and it needs a plugin.. available for win/mac/linux.. but only 32-bit  so far.. not even vista =)
[23:56] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[23:56] <flyback> mabye a dual boot for the odd game
[23:56] <flyback> otherwise I am done with m$
[23:57] <flyback> at work we don't let customers order
[23:57] <flyback> a) vista
[23:57] <flyback> b) xp homo edition
[23:57]  * flyback bites exploid
[23:57] <flyback> CANUCK! CANUCK! CANUCK! CANUCK!
[23:57] <Slart> MacTheMad: which line was missing? gateway line?
[23:57] <flyback> that's for william shatner singing and other canadian acts of terrorism!
[23:57] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[23:57] <Slart> flyback?.. breathe.. relax.. take it easy
[23:57] <dessnr> flyback: yeah for the odd game.  wine is really starting to support more games now though, and soon we won't need windows for that either.
[23:57] <flyback> slat it's a joke :)
[23:57] <eldkraft> Slart, you mean the java6-plugin right. For the E-ID
[23:57] <flyback> dessnr:  yeah I saw that also
[23:58] <flyback> I can finally play lemmings II again thx to dosbox
[23:58] <MacTheMad> slart: the link-local line
[23:58] <flyback> even my folk's p75 back in the day broke that game :/
[23:58] <Spzatt> anyone?
[23:58] <Slart> eldkraft: nope.. it's a proprietary plugin.. called netID
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > flyback:
[23:58] <dessnr> flyback: you die hard you.  ok ok.  i still play diabloII.  is there a winuae for ubuntu come to think of it?
[23:58] <Slart> MacTheMad: ah.. that's just awahi I think.. I don't think it's important.. but you have the gateway one?
[23:58] <sxp> I have a intel537 ep soft modem, and y was installed the driver .deb for ubuntu 7.10 but it doesn´t work
[23:58] <eldkraft> Slart, aok because I got it to work in 64bit
[23:58] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[23:59] <flyback> well wouldn't be winUAE
[23:59] <flyback> :P
[23:59] <brobostigon> lemmings is a beutiful and great game
[23:59] <flyback> probably another amiga emulator for linux
[23:59] <flyback> I have almost all the lemmings games
[23:59] <flyback> except paintball which was lame
[23:59] <sxp> when i type "pon"
[23:59] <dessnr> flyback: yeah i'll have to look into that
[23:59] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[23:59] <flyback> but been unable to play them for 10 yrs
[23:59] <Slart> eldkraft: e-legitimation? from telia? or some of the other places?
[23:59] <flyback> cayse they broken on newer hw
[23:59] <sxp> nothing
[23:59] <dessnr> i loved lemming i must admit.
[23:59] <dessnr> level 22 i think was my favourite.