[00:00] gerro: test gparted [00:00] gerro: http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/dunlug-0408/msg00134.html [00:01] here's what fdisk -l says: Disk /dev/sda: 2041 MB, 2041839616 bytes [00:01] 65 heads, 32 sectors/track, 1917 cylinders [00:01] Units = cylinders of 2080 * 512 = 1064960 bytes [00:01] This doesn't look like a partition table [00:01] Probably you selected the wrong device. [00:01] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [00:01] /dev/sda1 ? 32267 292296 270429664+ e W95 FAT16 (LBA) [00:02] /dev/sda2 ? 387183 387183 0 0 Empty [00:02] Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. [00:02] /dev/sda3 137382 1169826 1073741824 0 Empty [00:02] Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. [00:02] SoManyQuestions: wow! don't spam! [00:02] /dev/sda4 395233 395249 16384 0 Empty [00:02] Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. [00:02] soorry for that! [00:02] SoManyQuestions: past things like that on pastebin mate... :P [00:02] sorry, didn't realise it would come out like that! [00:02] http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/dunlug-0408/msg00140.html [00:02] what's the pastebin? [00:02] seems like gpart and dd is a good thingy to have [00:03] SoManyQuestions: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [00:03] SoManyQuestions: or http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [00:04] thanks, checking, my connection is a bit slow tonight [00:04] martyn: well if there is no error I remember that my system was strange with ALSA also [00:04] martyn: not that I am using a laptop but still [00:05] ok, i see a sort of web form, what do i do with it once i paste my text? [00:05] scizzo - I am listening! [00:06] SoManyQuestions: well first try to past something in big field thingy and then type a nice little Poster: text....and then click on paste [00:06] martyn: ? [00:06] martyn: nothing comes out? [00:06] martyn: in another terminal type alsa-mixer [00:07] hang on - opening all that is needed now... [00:07] i just typed my alias as Poster, is that right? [00:07] SoManyQuestions: well type: I am testing this cool thingy [00:07] SoManyQuestions: in the Poster place === distrotubux is now known as codenamekt [00:08] SoManyQuestions: and then type: clear ; cat /etc/hosts [00:08] SoManyQuestions: in a terminal [00:08] take the output and past in Content: [00:09] and then click paste [00:11] scizzo - cannot find alsa-mixer AND cannot apt-get install it either (couldn't find package) [00:11] any ideas? [00:11] martyn: hmmm: alsamixer [00:11] then.. :P [00:11] oops - sorry! [00:12] ;) [00:12] I do wonder if the BIOS is overwritting the soundcard [00:12] but linux should be smart enough to avoid that [00:13] hi all, does anyone know how to remove the filesystem icons from my desktop? I've tried the behaviour tab in desktop settings but it has no effect. [00:13] age6racer: try rightclicking on the desktop [00:14] age6racer: Desktop Settings -> Behaviour -> Desktop Icons -> super choices [00:14] super choices? [00:15] age6racer: you see where it says Desktop Icons? [00:15] yeah [00:15] age6racer: in the drop down menu you can choose none [00:15] there is 3 choices there right? [00:16] yeah, but I still want the trash, and removable devices. Just not filesystem. [00:16] when I select the ones I want from the check boxes it does nothing [00:16] age6racer: you need to reload the xfdesktop for the change to take effect, unfortunately [00:17] martyn: how is it going? [00:17] age6racer: you can do it with 'killall -s USR1 xfdesktop' [00:17] ok I think the problem is that some of my disk partitions seem to be recognised as removable devices [00:18] age6racer: it's a lso a good way to swithc the wallpaper to the next one on the list [00:18] I still have a file system icon even with the check box unticked though [00:20] scizzo - got terminals open all over. Been slowed down by HDD activity - it only has 256MB RAM so everything drags! [00:20] martyn: hehe...know the feeling [00:22] I have been able to ID chipset thro' alsamixer - Realtek ALC250 rev. 2 [00:22] eeeepp...realtek... :P [00:22] martyn: toshiba laptop? [00:23] It is an Acer Travelmate 2200 (2201LC). [00:23] About 3 years old and recently had Windows XP dumped off of it... [00:24] All alsamixer settings for playback are at 100%. [00:24] martyn: reading a bit about the card [00:25] martyn: make sure they all have 'OO' not 'MM' under them [00:25] martyn: switch with the 'm' key [00:26] martyn: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | grep snd-hda-intel [00:27] From within alsamixer?? [00:27] seems like this card got something in common with that driver [00:27] TheSheep: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-521854.html [00:28] martyn: we can try one thing [00:29] Yes. Got them all with green OOs apart from IEC958 which doesn't have an option for MM / OO. [00:29] Yes - a hammer? [00:30] martyn: maybe you should test oss [00:31] ran the cat command - what was that for? Yes. Will try OSS. [00:33] this soundcard actually seems to be a big pain in the b** [00:34] martyn: ls -l /dev/dsp [00:35] it seems it to me - a big quiet pain! [00:35] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-12-19 22:43 /dev/dsp [00:36] martyn: btw....do you know if you get any other sound like from programs that uses systemsound or so? [00:37] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp (and cover your ears) [00:37] Ctrl+C when if you hear random noice [00:38] :P [00:39] TheSheep: can pulseaudio be in the way for the normal sound? [00:39] ummm I mean for the sound from other applications... [00:40] scizzo-: yes, if the soundcard has only one channel [00:40] scizzo-: and the othe apps are not smart enough to use pulseaudi and try to use the soundcard directly [00:41] hmmm [00:43] sheep - tried that - both with ears covered and uncovered - still nothing. [00:43] martyn: not even an error message? [00:43] no random noise - unless you count fingers on keyboard. [00:44] nothing - cursor went to far left with no prompt for about a minute so CTRL+C - prompt appeared so repeated procedure x2. Still nothing. [00:45] have got it 'running' now in a terminal but still no noise. [00:45] the diagnosis is simple yet brillaint: your sound doesn't work [00:45] does sound work at all from a live cd like knoppix? [00:45] martyn: you get no "beeps" at all from the machine? [00:46] martyn: have you looked for a volume control on your laptop? [00:46] martyn: its rather fenomenal IMO [00:46] martyn: like you know, a little wheel you could turn up... [00:46] Thank you sheep. SMQ - will put a liveCD in tomorrow. I know it used to work with Mandriva 1 but it was SO slow.... [00:46] martyn: the knoppix CD might overwrite the bios a little different then Ubuntu [00:47] not 100% sure though [00:47] martyn: say, does 'dmesg' say anything about sound? [00:47] martyn: type 'dmesg | less' and look at the end [00:48] Hang on. No to the external volume control (thank god). [00:48] martyn: why, it would solve your problem [00:49] Well - yeah - you are right but I would have felt a bit of an a*** if that was the problem!! [00:50] we are all only humans [00:50] or sheep [00:51] martyn: does 'lsmod | grep snd' show anything? [00:51] Yeah, sorry. Looked thro'a ll of dmesg and only things that might me of interest are PCI slot 1 and 8 cannot be allocated. [00:52] martyn: hmm... you might want to play with irq settings in your bios [00:53] Hey. Could I pester someone for some help? [00:53] sheep - will try that. Also - lsmod shows LOADS of modules to various snd bits. [00:53] !ask | R_M [00:53] R_M: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:53] I have an old Celeron 300A/Abit BH6 mobo box that I've put Xubuntu on, and am planning to give to my Dad as a present for use in his workshop. [00:54] The wireless card I put in is a Dynex DX-WGDTC, which is, according to the reviews I find on the 'net, supposed to be one of the best wireless cards it's possible to get for Linux, and it's supposed to work for Ubuntu right out of the box. And in the Xubuntu box it used to be in, my newer Athlon 2600+ machine, it did indeed work. [00:54] Listen guys and sheep. Thanks for your help. I am off to bed now but will try all of your suggestions (knoppix live and IRQetc). Thank you again for your time and knowledge. Will report back WHEN it is working!!! [00:54] See you. [00:54] But in this older one, Xubuntu won't notice it at all, either the installation on the hard drive or if I boot the CD as a LiveCD. When I do a lspci on the machine it doesn't even notice the card is there, and I've tried it in two different slots. [00:54] Is the mobo just too old to work with this kind of card? Or is there something else I need to do to get it to work? [00:54] * somerville32 waves. [00:55] R_M: it's an usb card? pci? pcimcia? [00:55] PCI. [00:56] it should just work :( [00:56] It doesn't. Either with the installed version or the LiveCD. [00:56] lspci please :) [00:56] R_M: you are sure it connects properly? you did turn off the computer to insert it? [00:56] lspci doesn't even see it. And unfortunately it's not on the 'net right now for me to be able to copy and paste it over. [00:57] Yes I did, and I've tried it in two different PCI slots. [00:57] R_M: did you try to put other pci cards into those slots? [00:57] No. [00:57] R_M: just to see if they work [00:57] (Being dragged away from computer. Will read suggestions and respond when I get back.) [00:58] R_M: another thing, you migth check if they are disabled in bios [00:59] R_M: if it worked, and now isn't working there is always a chance the hardware has failed. When you transfered it between computers maybe you introduced too much ESD. [01:05] well, off to bed for me... thanks for the advice [01:11] has anyone have successfully configured compiz on xubuntu? [01:11] i tried it but i ended up with a system that always boots on the lowest resolution... [01:11] nantax: only using the standard settings really with shadows and so on [01:12] installed ubuntu and now im leaving xubuntu... lol [01:16] !seen jester45 [01:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jester45 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:17] Alpha 2? [01:17] vidd: yes? [01:18] the topic says Alpha 2 to be released Dec 20.... [01:18] vidd: well yes sometime during the night/day [01:18] alpha 2 of what? [01:19] hardy heron [01:19] ah [01:24] vidd: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing [01:24] ty scizzo- [01:24] vidd: however if you are not confortable with the .deb system then I suggest to stick with gutsy [01:25] vidd: hardy willl break.....at some point and is not a stable marked system or even marked as being supported [01:25] heh...i just upgraded my server from fiesty to gutsy today and all kinds of things broke [01:26] but i have a friend helping me to fix it [01:28] nice friends [01:29] only cost me sudo rights and disk-space (and bandwith of course!) [01:30] vidd: hehe [01:30] vidd: you could always screen him and follow the steps he takes for fix the server [01:30] just for fun and then tell him that "big brother is watching" [01:30] i trust these guys [01:31] they helped me to get it going in the first place [01:31] vidd: hehe yeah but for kicks you could do what I said [01:32] i will keep it in mind [01:45] Could the fact that my computer already has an Ethernet card in it (it didn't come with built-in) be preventing it from seeing the wireless ethernet one? [01:45] can someone point me to a how-to to take 80% of one partition and add it to another (without losing any data)? [01:48] vidd: you mean a already formatted and used disk? [01:48] I think you'd really be better off just backing everything up and reformatting. [01:49] the one partition is pretty much empty...but my /var partition is almost full [01:50] vidd: well does not answer my question really [01:51] well...yes...formated and used [01:51] it looks as if we'll back up /var, formatt /tmp and /var so that they can be combined without a problem [01:52] but back up to where? [01:52] do we have space [01:53] whoops...wrong channel [01:53] vidd: a simple way to explain why its not a good idea to try and steal info from a disk that is in use and is formatted is that partitions get information from various places on the disk itself... [01:54] vidd: which means that you can damage them quite easily by stealing space from another disk....to another disk... [01:54] vidd: and..well another thing is....if you want to do what you want to do pretty much means formatting a partition anyway so [01:55] im pretty sure the two partitions are on the same physical drive [01:55] vidd: well yes.....doesnt matter though [01:55] so back-up the one partion...reformat the two partions into one? [01:56] or two redistributed pieces anyway [01:58] did you say it was /var that was full? [01:58] have you ever ran a: apt-get clean [01:58] ? [01:59] yes [01:59] I did [01:59] The-Kernel: was talking to vidd though.. :P [01:59] lol [02:00] scizzo-, he is the freind that is helping me [02:00] =] [02:00] aaa [02:00] didn't know [02:01] and..well have problems reading minds.. ;) [02:01] i figured...thats why i said it [02:01] your cystal ball in the shop too? [02:01] =] [02:01] nah I just read minds [02:02] ok...do you see lotto numbers too? [02:03] nope [02:03] darn! [02:03] well good luck with the machine then [02:03] thanks for your input [02:04] well I need to sleep now...so...hehe [02:05] bye! [02:50] I installed the nVidia proprietary drivers on my machine, decided I didn't like them, and uninstalled and restarted. Now I get an error box about how the x server can't start due to graphical error. So I rebooted into recovery mode. What package(s) do I need to apt-get to fix the graphics? [03:11] R_M, is that a different card than what you normally use [03:27] In re X server question, never mind, I found the problem; I had boogered up my fstab. [03:27] If anyone was here for my wireless card question, I've rebooted my main Linux box with the card in it and it defefinitely detected it. The question's why my old Abit BH6/Celeron 300A system didn't. [03:41] is there a "Run" applet in xubuntu? Well I'm not really on xubuntu...I just installed xfce in kubuntu...any help on how I can run adept manager as root? I am always prompted "You cant make any modifications...blah blah...youi need to become root...".... [03:52] jason: if you open a terminal (under accessories) you can type sudo [03:52] It'll then ask for your password. [03:52] But it'll only do that every few minutes, so you can sudo several commands but only have to enter your password once. [04:08] what's the name of the default window style in xubuntu? [04:08] I have installed xfce on kubuntu and I think the default style I have is different from the xubuntu website's screenshots.... [04:08] no clue but i think its toward the end if the list [04:09] kubuntu is kde [04:10] lol yea i has read error [04:12] what's up soldats [04:13] hey man [04:13] did you get all your stuff solved [04:15] where do you live [04:22] nope, did all the patches but press play and it blinks then turns off [04:22] for dvd playback [04:22] are you guys using the default player or do you have a favorite? [04:22] hawaii usa [04:24] is there a setting to change the font color in the panel? [04:24] lol i has a dvd player for my dvds [04:25] not sure about font color [04:25] what app are you using [04:25] for? [04:26] in the panel [04:27] dvd? [04:27] totem [04:27] ahh, i love it [04:28] do you have the restricted codecs [04:28] it works well in an hp but not in an ibm [04:28] er i really dont remeberwhat they are called [04:28] yes [04:28] some dvds are restricted and wont play right [04:29] followed the directions for both, except ibm has 16 color bit [04:30] so i guess that's the holdup [04:30] lol maybe im not sure [04:30] should work , on paper lol [04:31] ha [04:32] i have had no electricity for a few days but was there something else you needed a few days ago or was that it [04:32] i really dont remember [05:19] I hate to be a bother, but is this where i can come for help? [05:19] sure. [05:20] I just got Xubuntu for the first time on my computer and I've run into a problem [05:20] j #pcmcorega [05:21] is there anyone i should talk to specificly? [05:21] !ask [05:21] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [05:21] heh- [05:22] ok so I just installed Xubuntu on an old dell laptop, a Latitude cs400 [05:22] and I get this odd display error [05:22] The system cant detect my graphics card [05:22] so when I try to log in the screen is very tiny [05:23] and there is a lot of black space around the screen [05:23] anyone know what to do about it? [05:25] hmm [05:27] have you checked the resolution [05:28] tried to set it to what you prefer [05:29] yes, but the system cant detect what moniter the laptop uses, and i have no way of knowing for sure. so what ends up happening is that it reverts to a smaller resolution [05:30] "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" try the defaults and when you get to monitor set to desired resolution. make backups as necessary [05:31] ok sounds good [05:31] I'll try [05:32] sweet [05:32] thanks [05:32] dont take this lightly [05:32] ? [05:32] there is a chance something might mess up [05:33] I have no data on the system as of yet, so there is no serious risk involved [05:33] just use the default when necessary since you dont know the monitor settings [05:33] ohok [05:33] yeah, this is a newly installed system [05:33] ill be back in a bit i goot run to the store [05:33] ill chack back in a few [05:35] thanks for the hekp [05:35] Ill give it a shot === XwarlokX82 is now known as X|Out [07:38] !hotkey [07:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:45] hotkey?? [08:12] mapping keys to functions [08:14] how big is the iso? [08:17] ere4si, like what functions opening something??? [08:18] hotkeys is a service - you can map key combos to open apps etc [08:19] you can also use applications > aettings > keyboard settings [08:39] you can use the menu as well :) [08:40] menu to do what [08:41] ere4si, menu to do what [08:41] soldats: - poor attempt at humor... - menu to open apps :) [08:42] ahh sorry i am a little inebriated [08:42] the menu will open all apps [08:42] if said app is in menu [08:42] the issue was hotkey wasn't running as a service so no buttons could be mapped [08:43] you can map key combos to do anything really [08:43] yes [08:43] not my dishes :) [08:43] it could! [08:43] lol [08:43] hehe [08:44] with some creatvivity [08:45] write a program with pygame to wash dishes and add hot keys ???? profit [08:45] need housr interface [08:46] house [08:46] wireless adaptors [08:50] interface with a dishwasher - the missus would get upset at being connected to the net! [08:52] internet == world domination [08:53] google? did someone say google? [08:55] dishwasher == google [09:47] !rules [09:47] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [09:53] what's the name to input for a terminal laucher, not xterm but . . . [09:57] xfce4-terminal [09:59] thank you [10:11] are there any devs in the room? wonder if anyone ever considered putting the version names or numbers on the splash screen? [10:12] mikubuntu: your best bet to reach devs ia the -dev mailing list [10:12] s/ia/is [10:12] mikubuntu: we are keeping them in a closet and forcing to program, you see [10:13] TheSheep: ahhhh.... [10:14] no, i'm not that ambitious ... lol [10:14] * Pondiboy is away: auto-away [10:15] Pondiboy: can you please disable these messages? [10:15] Pondiboy: thank you [10:16] my real prob tonite is that i don't know why two supposedly good etho cards are not getting detected on either of two machines i had x on... but not sure what version, hence the question about displaying version #s. am reinstalling with fresh burn of 7.10, and hoping/wondering if after all that my etho will get detected. [10:17] mikubuntu: weird, we had someone with similar problem last night [10:17] mikubuntu: it worked in one box and didn't in other [10:17] mikubuntu: might be a coincidence though [10:18] or a conspiracy. [10:18] you never know. lol. [10:18] stealth ninja bunnies are everywhere [10:20] wee little buggers, aren't they [10:21] 89% of base system installed, just checked, got a ways to go still... want to try to have these two machines ready to give away for xmas ... arrrrrgggghhh.... [10:40] Hi! I just installed Xubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and I would really like to go online now with it. I can't do it on my own. The Internet comes from my Windows XP desktop via an ad-hoc wifi connection and worked with xp on the laptop. Anyone in the mood to help me set it up? [10:41] when I use the tool next to the clock, windows says connection established but xubuntu doesn't and kills it after a minute. ther is no web access during that time [10:42] botchy: have you connected it to ethernet for a bit and updated the system? [10:43] it lists a wireless card/interface too right? [10:44] no. my cable modem doesn't allow further ethernet devices. even unplugging the other one won't help, no matter if xubuntu or windows [10:44] but eth1 lists my wireless card, a cisco aeronet 350, so its compatible and preinstalled [10:45] botchy, what's an ad hoc wifi? [10:45] botchy: there info about doing what your working with here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188482.html [10:45] botchy: also what is your essid? if you put number or capitals in weird spots it won't be recognized I think [10:47] well, its directly between the windows desktop and the laptop, no router involved. well the ssid is MaFe86 [10:47] it is in the networks lists, but after entering the wep code, the connection simply doesn't get established [10:48] * Pondiboy is back (gone 00:33:43) [10:49] Pondiboy: please disable these messages [10:51] botchy: hmm I put wep key (hexadecimal) don't know what it means by ascii [10:52] i tried both. but should be hexadecimal, as it consists of 13 numbers [10:54] huh? [10:54] hexadecimal isn't all numbers [10:54] its 1-9 with A-F [10:55] oh and 0 too [10:55] oh. well there is also a 0. [11:01] is there a different tool that i could use to cinfig my settings? [11:01] * Pondiboy is away: auto-away [11:01] Pondiboy has left the building. [11:06] i'll try again later [11:06] thx for trying [12:04] does thunar support tagging (or some other convenient, maybe non-hierarchical, way of organizing)? [12:18] i know that thunar has the media tagging plugin which allows tagging of music files but i want something that could tag and search tags of all files. [12:28] grep maybe? [12:28] depends on file [12:34] may i have some advice [12:40] so is everybody here a devoted xfce fan? [12:44] possibly [12:44] chris_were: no [12:45] chris_were: also, this is a support channel [13:32] I log in, I see the spash, and then my screens turn gray. If I ctl-alt-f1 and back, I see my desktop briefly, then back to gray. Help? [13:50] Greetings. [13:50] anquietas: do you answer questions? [13:51] I answer those I am capable of. [13:56] Though, I am here to ask for an advice. :) I am contemplating switching to Xubuntu. Is Xubuntu stable? What are the disadvantages? Does it look good? (Stupid question, but it's not irrelevant) [13:56] well, consider the question I asked a few moments ago ... I log in, I see the spash, and then my screens turn gray. If I ctl-alt-f1 and back, I see my desktop briefly, then back to gray. Help? [13:57] Graphics driver fails to do its job? [13:57] I'm finding it not all that stable, and that there isn't much evidence of a support community. [13:57] Driver is fine. GNOME works fine. [13:57] xubuntu worked fine yesterday. [13:58] Ah. Hm. Did you change something consciously? [13:58] I plugged my second monitor back in when I returned from my trip. [13:58] Does it help to... plug it out again? [13:59] I ran out of patience before trying that experiment. [13:59] Try it. It might be significant. [13:59] Albeit I can't think of a logical correlation... [13:59] it may be related to a problem I saw before: every so often, some mysterious process 'turns off' the 'xfce manage desktop' preference. [13:59] I can't figure out where it is stored on disk. [14:00] I have never used Xubuntu, nor Xfce. Therefore I haven't experienced such issues (yet!). [14:00] bim: press alt+f2 and type 'xfdesktop' [14:00] bim: that happens whet xfdesktop crashes [14:01] bim: but it should't crash anymore in 7.10 [14:01]