[00:00] it's at home [00:00] i got no internet there [00:00] I'm in my office about to go there haha [00:00] I'm a mile from my house [00:00] lemme ask you this, what will i get inr escue mode? [00:00] internet support? [00:00] apt-get support? [00:00] can Ir emove packages in there [00:00] savageone: You will need a internet connection or your apt setup with CD capability [00:00] greg: type : printenv http_proxy [00:00] at the command line [00:00] what do you get? [00:01] neo: will I have network access while in rescue mode, chosen from grub [00:01] also, what is the linux restricted module thing there, I apt-get'd that and immediately after this happened [00:02] drbobb: http://username:password@franc.cc.strath.ac.uk:8080 [00:02] Once you are in and apt is setup as CD, do sudo apt-cache search nvidia. Then do sudo apt-get install (now here you will type the nvidia-newest-driver). This will install the drivers for the nvidia 100.14.19 set. After that, do sudo init 3 and then sudo init 5. You should have a perfect X setup [00:02] drbobb: That would be the problem, how do I go about resetting that ? [00:03] savageone: No. rescuer mode is exactly that. The bare minimum to rescue a system [00:03] neo: can I do apt-get remove xxx though that wouldn't require internet right? [00:04] UI don't have a live cd [00:04] this is sort of an appliance type distro, all on a dvd, no live boot [00:04] greg: yes that's it. You certainly don't want it anymore [00:05] look in .bash_profile and .bashrc in your home dir [00:05] drbobb: Will do. [00:05] there has to be a line like http_proxy=... [00:05] or export http_proxy=.. [00:06] comment it out by putting a hash (#) in front [00:06] savageone: Yes, you can do that, but you will need to install the vanilla nv driver. It should be like xorg-server-nv or something like that. Then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg and it should ask to setup your xorg.conf file which you should do. Or you can manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change nvidia to nv [00:07] the xorg says nv! [00:07] drbobb: Will do, just finding it. [00:07] I was told to try changing it to: nvidia [00:07] question: Downloading kubuntu 7.10 - I have a vista system - is there a way to dual boot without having to erase my current o/s first? [00:07] k neofax [00:07] I'm off to give it a go [00:08] savageone: And you get a split screen? [00:08] log out and log back in before it takes effect [00:08] !nvidia [00:08] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [00:08] neo: I DID get split screen, not I just get a splash screen for kubuntu that has a progress bar that goes about 1 inch and stops [00:08] I also think I shouldn't have installed the linux restricted modules thing, do you know what that is? [00:09] savageone: Did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see exactly what the problem is? [00:09] nope [00:09] but I'm taking notes on what to try since I don't have internet there atm because it's my router, and I'm going to check that [00:09] anything specific I should look for? [00:09] maybe it's related to this restricted modules thing [00:09] savageone: It is ubuntu's way of allowing restricted drivers to be installed, but not be held legally responsible. [00:09] anyone know what the hellt hat is? [00:10] fuck [00:10] that's proably what happened [00:10] restricted drivers as in nvidia drivers? [00:10] or is that a pretty mundane thingand probably not my issue [00:10] you'd think linux would load at least but it doesn't [00:10] then maybe give me a command prompt and an x error [00:11] savageone: It is the ubuntu way. Thousands use it every day with no problem. I am assuming it is not NVIDIA related and something else entirely. In the Xorg.0.log look for lines that begin with EE. [00:11] where is that Xorg.0.log file? [00:11] savageone: restricted drivers as in proprietary and not open sourced. [00:11] It is in /var/log [00:11] You new to linux? [00:12] a little [00:12] I've been using it for 10 years [00:12] roflmao [00:12] but in various forms naw mean [00:12] and never much trouble shooting [00:12] I've done a lot of mythtv stuff, and alot of apache/internet related stuff [00:12] You have been lucky [00:12] but I'm an idiot when it comes to x [00:12] how do I stop knetworkmanager from connecting to networks I don't want it to connect to? [00:12] because 99.9 percent of what I do doesn't require it [00:12] and I use a lot of pussy-linux stuff like ipcop, etc [00:12] so I don'thave to think much [00:12] ;) [00:13] it is currently annoying the h^&$* out of me by reconnecting to some "default" WLAN all the time [00:13] but I learn by making mistakes like everyone else [00:13] which means all my connections break [00:13] neofax: I'm headed home, thanks for your help, with any luck I'll be back in the channel to thank you in 1/2 hour haha [00:13] pz [00:13] NP [00:15] Hiya boys. Need help with knetwork [00:15] drbobb: I still can't find it, looked in .bashrc and I don't have a bash_profile.. [00:15] it can never connect, neither to wireless or LAN [00:15] I had xubuntu installed, internet worked flawlessly [00:16] so its not my router [00:16] greg: your buddy was kinda mean ;> [00:16] yo can I dual boot 7.1 and vista easily without destroying vista first? [00:16] I tried to configure it, but now all the wireless networks are gone [00:16] drbobb: Yup, I think he's became a "Buddy" :P [00:17] greg: try /etc/bash.bashrc [00:17] any way to reinstall it or something? [00:17] or /etc/profile [00:18] rubax: What was you using to connect to the wireless AP's? [00:18] knetwork [00:18] A|i3N: Yes, google for it and there are tutorials. [00:18] rubax: You mean knetworkmanager? [00:18] yep [00:19] What errors does it give? [00:19] It doesnt give errors === Carnage` is now known as Carnage\ [00:19] and also does anyone know anything about a program similar to PDANet for linux? I use my spring mogual to get online.. [00:20] guys a quick question: is the AIGLX server subjectively/objectively quicker in redrawing windows/backgrounds/icons than bog standard X these days? Im asking because one of my pet peeves with linux is that the GUI just feels slower than OS X or XP (forget Vista) [00:20] er, sprint === fsckr_ is now known as fsckr [00:20] drbobb: Nothing, I have however found the bash history, so I could tell you the commands he used to enable the proxy [00:21] greg: ol [00:21] ok [00:21] rubax: Is the NetworkManager service running along with avahi? [00:22] drbobb: [00:22] export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/ [00:22] apt-get export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/ [00:22] apt-get updates export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/ [00:22] apt-get updates export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080 [00:22] Anyone here use a Logitech MX Revolution mouse? [00:22] i want my back/forward buttons to work lol [00:23] greg: that makes no sense [00:23] drbobb: :S [00:23] only the first command would work [00:23] ok, sorry, Im back. Yes, its running along. when I see the addresses it gives nothing, but it says the wired connection is active [00:24] and it wouldn't make the setting stick [00:24] and when I try the wireless, it tries to connect but then drops it [00:24] stick across a reboot or even logout, i mean [00:24] then, neither of them appear on the tray [00:24] drbobb: Mmm.. I'll look to see if he creates a file or something.. [00:25] when you get bored of all the sleuthing, just put a line : unset http_proxy [00:25] rubax: Try doing ifconfig in the CLI to see if you have an IP [00:25] at the end of your .bashrc file [00:25] Does Anyone know how to get a logitech mouse working? [00:25] !logitech [00:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:25] tehm0nk: try here i got 5 buttons working on my g5 from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3810042 [00:26] drbobb: Cheers for your help, if I find where it was in the end i'll let you know :P [00:26] tehm0nk: I have three, I just plugged them in and they worked [00:26] how to use a bamboo tablet in kubuntu ? [00:26] tehm0nk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399099 [00:26] nope, I dont have one. I set both interfaces to dhcp [00:26] my mx revolution has a ton of buttons, left right and Mwheel work [00:26] Wait. Sorry, Im not running avahi [00:27] it is not showing up in the process table [00:27] rubax: So, knetworkmanager said the wired connection is good and nothing shows under the wireless? [00:27] exactly [00:27] tehm0nk: what makes a logitech mouse special? [00:27] any mouse i plug in basically just works [00:28] drbobb: It has extra buttons. All you have to do is set the extra buttons in the xorg.conf file. [00:28] drbobb: All the buttons? [00:28] someone have idea ? [00:28] ah ok [00:28] the hard part is deciding what you want to use them for ;> [00:28] forward and back for webpages is nice :) [00:28] rubax: Can you do ifup eth0 and see if you get an ip? [00:30] I get: No DHCP offers received [00:31] rubax: OK, then can you check your router logs to see what could be causing the problem? [00:32] ok [00:32] rubax: Also, is eth0 your nic card? Probably should have asked this before. Also, you do have an actual wired connection plus a wireless one? [00:33] ok, my interfaces file seems to be wrong also [00:33] eth0 is not my nic [00:34] Oh, do I need to run avahi? [00:34] i need help [00:34] pretty please [00:34] rubax: before you change the interfaces file, you need to decide if you want to use networkmanager or want to manually connect to wireless AP's [00:34] OK, if eth0 is not your nic, what is? [00:35] I'd like to keep using the KNM [00:35] cowlikk: What is your problem [00:35] when i log out then back in it just loads a peach screen and nothing more [00:35] OH, I see now. In xubuntu, I had eth0 as nic and eth1 as wired [00:35] rubax: Then don't touch the interfaces file. It should only contain auto lo and lo loopback line [00:36] eth1 is your nic and eth0 is your wireless card. [00:36] it contains more stuff, let me do the pastebin [00:37] Any suggestions for a program to rip a CD to .flac? [00:37] hi [00:37] :'( [00:38] looking for a usb wireless nic. are they plug and play? [00:38] cowlikk: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see what the error is [00:38] here it is, I have not touched this [00:38] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49090/ [00:39] rubax: delete the iface ath0 and iface eth0 line [00:40] no error in it === Extrapan100^BNC is now known as Extrapan100 [00:41] cowlikk: When you say that you logout, you mean KDE or linux itself? [00:41] i want to get a freeview tv tuner for my pc can anyone recommend one for the UK? and what sort of frontend do you use on linux? [00:42] i go to the power button in the top right sorner and go logg off then i try to log in and i get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and that is it and to get out of that i have to restart [00:42] kub^: Do you mean a tv tuner card or IPTV? [00:42] tv tuner car NeoFax [00:42] cowlikk: Check ~/.xsession-errors [00:43] where do i find that [00:43] ok, avahi-autoipd is now running. I can see the available wireless networks === Extrapan100 is now known as Extrapan100^BNC [00:43] but I cant connect to the wired and the wireless hangs up trying to configure [00:43] kub^: I would suggest the Hauppauge PVR-500 line as it has a decoder built on the board. I would use mythtv then or tvtime [00:44] rubax: Did you delete those two lines? [00:44] will that work out of the box NeoFax ? [00:44] yes [00:45] kub^: No, you need to apt-get the ivtv drivers and then it works great. Also, I take back the tvtime as it doesn't work yet, but mplayer does. [00:45] doublechecked, they are not there anymore [00:45] I'm currently using the command [00:45] NeoFax: thanks mate good advice :) [00:45] less file.pdf | festival --tts [00:45] to read PDFs out for me [00:46] rubax: You will need to reboot your system as it needs to correct the setup of the nic and wireless cards. You could try sudo /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart [00:46] It works well enough as I can pause it using CTRL-Z but I'd like to improve the command so that I know how far into the PDF or text file I am, in words or pages or letters or something so that I might resume at that point later? [00:46] any ideas how I could do this? [00:46] kub^: If you run into any problems check out the ubuntu-mythtv IRC channel [00:46] thanks again :) [00:47] DOH [00:47] my bad [00:47] hey where do i find ~/.xsession-errors [00:47] your home DIR [00:48] cowlikk: "~" = /home/your_username/ [00:48] cowlikk: Do nano ~/.xsession-errors [00:48] cowlikk: open a terminal and type tail -f ~/.xsession-errors That will sit there updating while you do stuff in other windows, so you don't keep having to refresh. [00:50] it sais Refusing to initialize GTK+. at the top [00:51] Window manager warning: Log level 8: gtk_menu_shell_insert: assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM (child)' failed [00:51] cowlikk: If you are using kubuntu, you shouldn't have a problem with this unless you use GNOME apps. [00:52] yeah but i cant log out and come back in without restarting my comp [00:52] im using 7.10 [00:52] and i am very linux noobish [00:53] well, no success histories about bamboo and Gursy gibbon. =( [00:53] http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/success [00:53] Ya know, porting is a pain [00:54] why does it log in fine when i first start the computer [00:54] cowlikk: Do you have both GNOME and KDE installed on your system? [00:54] i dont know i just installed the whole os last night [00:54] GNOME is buggy. [00:55] Which CD did you install ubuntu or kubuntu? [00:55] ubuntu [00:56] OK, then you are using GNOME and you probably would want to go to that channel as this is KDE centric here. [00:56] Thats were you went wrong then ;) [00:57] ok so #ubuntu ? [00:57] cowlikk: Yes [00:57] ok thank you all for trying [00:57] you guys are great [00:58] rubax: Is Knetworkmanager working now? [00:59] NeoFax: i appreciate the advice but the Hauppauge PVR-500 has 2 mpeg encoders and a remote control seems a bit of overkill and its a bit expensive for me, can you advise a lower specced model or am i good to go with any hauppage ? [01:00] kub^: I would recommend any Hauppauge as the drivers are built in to linux kernels. Except for the ivitv stuff [01:00] HD5500 are good! but probably expensive [01:00] I have a PVR-150, PVR-500 and some others [01:00] Any suggestions for a program to rip a CD to .flac? [01:01] Dragnslcr: Does k3b have flac? If so, I would use that. If not try EAC in wine. [01:01] ok thanks guys :) [01:02] kub^: Just before you buy a cheap brand make sure it is recognized and supported by the kernel [01:02] I checked k3b, looks like it only has .mp3, .ogg, and .wav [01:03] Dragnslcr: Mine on Sidux has FLAC. You may need to install all of k3b's plugins for it though === litbang is now known as riefzu [01:04] NeoFax: i think the pvr 150 looks good for me. silly question tho do you have to hook em up to the tv aerial or do they get a good enough signal without? [01:04] You need an aerial or cable connected. Make sure you buy the PAL version if you are in europe though. [01:05] NeoFax: ok [01:05] I think mine came with a cheapo aerial though [01:05] Dragnslcr: crip, mp3burn, ripit [01:06] rubax: Knetworkmanager working? [01:06] I figured it out. k3b just needs the flac package (libflac isn't enough) [01:06] Sorry, no === dh is now known as dh1 [01:06] Now I have an ip for the wireless [01:06] and shows as connected [01:07] but I cant get the internet [01:07] and the wired is still dead :( [01:07] I am using a MS Wireless Laser 5000 it seems Kubuntu does see the 2 side buttons, only problem is it does some weird thing with them in Firefox, I just want it to do BACK and FORWARD [01:07] How can I do this [01:07] !mouse [01:07] Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto [01:07] rubax: What is the ip of the wireless? Does it show as given by your router? What is the gateway set as in ifconfig? [01:09] nosrednaekim: I am not saying it doesn't work. It works I just want it to do go Back and Forward [01:09] dh1: try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3810042 [01:10] hi [01:11] sat_: Hello! [01:11] I'm new to Ubuntu, first time here.. [01:12] hey sat_ [01:12] wanted to check what this is about. [01:12] sat_: this is the support channel for Kubuntu [01:12] I'm really impressed with Ubuntu. [01:12] sat_: This channel is normally for Kubuntu problems and help [01:12] hey do anyone knows if is available any kind of systray app that checks pop server and and automatically download messages to thunderbird [01:13] usr002: Thunderbird will do that itself? [01:13] usr002: search apt for it... I know there is one for gmail [01:13] if you leave t-bird open, it should do that [01:13] but it doesn't go to the systemtray [01:13] usr002: No, but there are programs that check pop servers and then you can dl the mail [01:13] ubuntu is another channel sat_ [01:13] !info alltray [01:13] alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB [01:13] uh [01:13] Theres an addon for it somewhere [01:13] will test that [01:14] ok. I'm kubuntu. [01:14] so just dock thunderbird.why use another client. [01:14] i meant i running kubuntu. [01:14] what do you recomend flaccid [01:14] sat :D... how easy was it to use... you know learning curve and all? [01:14] =) sorry sat_ , [01:14] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2110 , might do the trick, although I don't know if its crossplatform or not.. [01:14] usr002: for what? [01:15] it's really easy.. didn't have any difficulty at all. [01:15] MinimizeToTray is not available for Linux [01:15] i bought the Ubuntu official book. [01:15] usr002: biff is good, but it does not download the mail it just checks the pop server. [01:15] Hmm. It gives me no ip address on ifconfig, but knm shows the ip. I cant run ifup either, it says: ignoring unknown interface [01:15] mail client [01:15] usr002: no but alltray is [01:15] sat_: you had any previous linux/unix experience? [01:15] usr002: i use opera [01:15] rubax: What is the ip 192.x.x.x? [01:15] no x86_64 support [01:15] no, prev. linux exp. [01:16] 192.168.1.100 [01:16] sat_: Linux today is so easy compared to when I started using it. [01:16] how are you addressing it to me. how can i get your name . [01:16] sat_: cool! have you tried out installing packages and such things? [01:16] sat_: type the first two letters and press tab [01:16] rubax: Trying running a traceroute to see where the packets drop. [01:16] i started with Corel [01:17] lol [01:17] nosrednaekim: great thanks. [01:17] a long time ago [01:17] usr002: they will probably do that when its worth doing it [01:17] sat_: so have you tried using the package manager? [01:17] Cant download the app [01:17] usr002: you can still run the 32bit version iirc [01:18] nosrednaekim: i did try and istalled some software.. [01:18] usr002: I have used it since Yggdrassil, then to RedHat like 4 something and then SuSE until pretty much Ubuntu came out and Debian distros since. [01:18] duh, ill install it from here hehe [01:18] usr002: actually in opera 9.5 kestrel they are doing 64bit builds [01:18] sat_: how easy was that? [01:18] nosrednaekim: in fact, i've become an advocate for ubuntu [01:18] sat_: cool :D [01:18] i check it [01:19] nosrednaekim: i've written a review in amazon for the book and Cd. sub: Ubuntu - best product of this decade [01:19] s opera 9.5 addresses 64bit and qt4 iirc [01:19] the official ubuntu book needs a head check and so does the wiki. its so unorganised. [01:19] sat_: U/K/Xbuntu are all good, but somethings I can't stand how they do. I would suggest DLing virtualbox and trying different distros to see what is out there. [01:19] sat_: hehe.... i've been using LInux for 5 years... so it kinda doesn't occur to me how easy Kubuntu is to use. [01:20] NeoFax: I disagree, I say learn one distro really well.... [01:20] nosrednaekim: What distro you start on? [01:20] NeoFax: especially when you are just starting out [01:20] NeoFax: Slackware for 2 years, Suse for 2, finally Kubuntu [01:20] try them all, and decide on one :) [01:21] i've used kubuntu for about 1.5 yrs, now i'm on mint [01:21] they're very similar [01:21] nosrednaekim: i started using kubuntu for everything. i'm using xp only for video chat.. i don't know how i can video chat in ubuntu. [01:21] nosrednaekim: I wish there was a bigger fanbase out there when I started. I would have never went RPM distro as long as I did. That is why I say check out other distros. [01:21] NeoFax: true :D [01:21] sat_: Skype, Ekiga, Kopete [01:21] I say RPM is ok, as long as there is APT [01:22] maybeway36: You have never had RPM hell then [01:22] it's apt [01:22] Kinda like dll hell on Windows [01:22] not really [01:22] only used fedora and pclinuxos a bit [01:22] NeoFax: i tried ekiga. but, there is some port issue. it says some other program is using it. [01:22] but APT managed everythng just fine for me [01:23] as long as i got software from the distro [01:23] windows doesn't have a packaging system [01:23] well, that was smart.... [01:23] hehe [01:23] maybeway36: Apt is just a means to DL and install the package RPM is the actual package and previously RPM had a very messed up way of implementing checks and balances [01:23] i do prefer deb [01:23] i'll say that [01:23] flaccid: Checkout appupdater it is apt for windows [01:23] does kopete support video chat. i don't see any option for it. [01:24] sat_: yes it does.. only for MSN though [01:24] sat_: Open the settings and if your webcam is supported then you will see apicture there. In the webcam tab [01:24] NeoFax: lol no its not. [01:24] sat_: amsn and kmess also support video chat [01:24] flaccid: As close as it is going to get!!!! [01:25] lol, yeah perhaps. [01:25] Max-P: thanks. i'll try. [01:26] Anyone here have cygwin experience? [01:26] which is the best open source video chat available for ubuntu. [01:27] sat_: I say Skype and Kopete, but I can't get my webcam working, so you may want to ask others [01:27] skype is not really open, but then again neither is the msn protocol. hmm [01:27] NeoFax: i tried skype. i couldn't get it working. i'll try kopete.. [01:28] How about mounting your host drive in a virtualbox linux session? [01:28] did anyone face port issue in ekiga [01:30] RTP/XMPP is probably the best open source vide conferencing protocol [01:42] im back in here because ubuntu room is not helping [01:43] still there neofax [01:43] whats the problem [01:44] when i log out and come back to log in i just get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and thats all that happens [01:45] this is with kdm? [01:45] no..thats gdm [01:45] no with gnome [01:45] we cannot help then [01:45] sorry kubuntu doesn't use gdm [01:46] so when i am in the peach screen and nothing happens i do ctrl+alt+f5 and do a ps ax and the last thing on that list is gnome-screensaver but the screen saver works fine when i am loged in correctly [01:46] yeah we don't support gnome here sorry [01:47] ok thanks anyway [01:47] i would help if i knew how but i aint used gnome for years [01:47] I'm getting a bit annoyed with Chatzilla and Konversation. Is there a clear frontrunner for Best IRC Client In KDE? [01:47] how do i get the mouse to do Back Forward? [01:48] without Binding it to ALT+left/Alt-right? [01:48] konversation does fine at least for most users [01:48] i was going to install a game on here and i was Hoping it would see the buttons as normal... [01:49] etfb: konversating? [01:49] flaccid: How do you set it to wordwrap? If I type a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really long line, it doesn't wrap (or at least it didn't when I tried before - I'll be embarrassed if it does now). [01:50] flaccid: Hmmm... never mind, it's working now. Weird. [01:50] is there a gui type mouse button binder? [01:50] flaccid: OK, I just need to figure out how to get it to stop with all the "[nick] has joined this channel" messages, and I'll be happy. [01:51] etfb: wraps for me [01:51] etfb: thats a setting in settings->configure konversation->chat window->hid part/join events [01:51] nosrednaekim: Yep, me too, now. I was SURE it didn't before. [01:52] etfb: it doesn't if it doesn't have a space in between, or is a link [01:52] nosrednaekim: I don't have that option, and I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest version. [01:53] * etfb checks his version number [01:53] * etfb is using Konversation v1.0.1 [01:53] eftb: settings->configure konversation->behaviour->chat window->hide part/join/nick events [01:53] etfb: Why not create an ignore pattern if you don't have that setting? [01:54] theres 2 chat windows in the config dialog [01:54] caught me out [01:54] adz21c: Me too - what a stupid error for the designers to make. Ah well; fixed now. Thanks, all! [01:55] Hey, can someone /part and re/join the channel, just so I can be sure it's working? Paranoid, I know... [01:56] etfb: just did [01:56] Excellent. Thank you! [01:56]