[00:00] <savageone> it's at home
[00:00] <savageone> i got no internet there
[00:00] <savageone> I'm in my office about to go there haha
[00:00] <savageone> I'm a mile from my house
[00:00] <savageone> lemme ask you this, what will i get inr escue mode?
[00:00] <savageone> internet support?
[00:00] <savageone> apt-get support?
[00:00] <savageone> can Ir emove packages in there
[00:00] <NeoFax> savageone: You will need a internet connection or your apt setup with CD capability
[00:00] <drbobb> greg: type : printenv http_proxy
[00:00] <drbobb> at the command line
[00:00] <drbobb> what do you get?
[00:01] <savageone> neo: will I have network access while in rescue mode, chosen from grub
[00:01] <savageone> also, what is the linux restricted module thing there, I apt-get'd that and immediately after this happened
[00:02] <greg> drbobb: http://username:password@franc.cc.strath.ac.uk:8080
[00:02] <NeoFax> Once you are in and apt is setup as CD, do sudo apt-cache search nvidia.  Then do sudo apt-get install (now here you will type the nvidia-newest-driver).  This will install the drivers for the nvidia 100.14.19 set.  After that, do sudo init 3 and then sudo init 5.  You should have a perfect X setup
[00:02] <greg> drbobb: That would be the problem, how do I go about resetting that ?
[00:03] <NeoFax> savageone: No.  rescuer mode is exactly that.  The bare minimum to rescue a system
[00:03] <savageone> neo:  can I do apt-get remove xxx though that wouldn't require internet right?
[00:04] <savageone> UI don't have a live cd
[00:04] <savageone> this is sort of an appliance type distro, all on a dvd, no live boot
[00:04] <drbobb> greg: yes that's it. You certainly don't want it anymore
[00:05] <drbobb> look in .bash_profile and .bashrc in your home dir
[00:05] <greg> drbobb: Will do.
[00:05] <drbobb> there has to be a line like http_proxy=...
[00:05] <drbobb> or export http_proxy=..
[00:06] <drbobb> comment it out by putting a hash (#) in front
[00:06] <NeoFax> savageone: Yes, you can do that, but you will need to install the vanilla nv driver.  It should be like xorg-server-nv or something like that.  Then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg and it should ask to setup your xorg.conf file which you should do.  Or you can manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change nvidia to nv
[00:07] <savageone> the xorg says nv!
[00:07] <greg> drbobb: Will do, just finding it.
[00:07] <savageone> I was told to try changing it to:  nvidia
[00:07] <A|i3N> question: Downloading kubuntu 7.10 - I have a vista system - is there a way to dual boot without having to erase my current o/s first?
[00:07] <savageone> k neofax
[00:07] <savageone> I'm off to give it a go
[00:08] <NeoFax> savageone: And you get a split screen?
[00:08] <drbobb> log out and log back in before it takes effect
[00:08] <soulrider> !nvidia
[00:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:08] <savageone> neo: I DID get split screen, not I just get a splash screen for kubuntu that has a progress bar that goes about 1 inch and stops
[00:08] <savageone> I also think I shouldn't have installed the linux restricted modules thing, do you know what that is?
[00:09] <NeoFax> savageone: Did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see exactly what the problem is?
[00:09] <savageone> nope
[00:09] <savageone> but I'm taking notes on what to try since I don't have internet there atm because it's my router, and I'm going to check that
[00:09] <savageone> anything specific I should look for?
[00:09] <savageone> maybe it's related to this restricted modules thing
[00:09] <NeoFax> savageone: It is ubuntu's way of allowing restricted drivers to be installed, but not be held legally responsible.
[00:09] <savageone> anyone know what the hellt hat is?
[00:10] <savageone> fuck
[00:10] <savageone> that's proably what happened
[00:10] <savageone> restricted drivers as in nvidia drivers?
[00:10] <savageone> or is that a pretty mundane thingand probably not my issue
[00:10] <savageone> you'd think linux would load at least but it doesn't
[00:10] <savageone> then maybe give me a command prompt and an x error
[00:11] <NeoFax> savageone: It is the ubuntu way.  Thousands use it every day with no problem.  I am assuming it is not NVIDIA related and something else entirely.  In the Xorg.0.log look for lines that begin with EE.
[00:11] <savageone> where is that Xorg.0.log file?
[00:11] <NeoFax> savageone: restricted drivers as in proprietary and not open sourced.
[00:11] <NeoFax> It is in /var/log
[00:11] <NeoFax> You new to linux?
[00:12] <savageone> a little
[00:12] <savageone> I've been using it for 10 years
[00:12] <savageone> roflmao
[00:12] <savageone> but in various forms naw mean
[00:12] <savageone> and never much trouble shooting
[00:12] <savageone> I've done a lot of mythtv stuff, and alot of apache/internet related stuff
[00:12] <NeoFax> You have been lucky
[00:12] <savageone> but I'm an idiot when it comes to x
[00:12] <peterbecker_> how do I stop knetworkmanager from connecting to networks I don't want it to connect to?
[00:12] <savageone> because 99.9 percent of what I do doesn't require it
[00:12] <savageone> and I use a lot of pussy-linux stuff like ipcop, etc
[00:12] <savageone> so I don'thave to think much
[00:12] <savageone> ;)
[00:13] <peterbecker_> it is currently annoying the h^&$* out of me by reconnecting to some "default" WLAN all the time
[00:13] <savageone> but I learn by making mistakes like everyone else
[00:13] <peterbecker_> which means all my connections break
[00:13] <savageone> neofax: I'm headed home, thanks for your help, with any luck I'll be back in the channel to thank you in 1/2 hour haha
[00:13] <savageone> pz
[00:13] <NeoFax> NP
[00:15] <rubax> Hiya boys. Need help with knetwork
[00:15] <greg> drbobb: I still can't find it, looked in .bashrc and I don't have a bash_profile..
[00:15] <rubax> it can never connect, neither to wireless or LAN
[00:15] <rubax> I had xubuntu installed, internet worked flawlessly
[00:16] <rubax> so its not my router
[00:16] <drbobb> greg: your buddy was kinda mean ;>
[00:16] <A|i3N> yo can I dual boot 7.1 and vista easily without destroying vista first?
[00:16] <rubax> I tried to configure it, but now all the wireless networks are gone
[00:16] <greg> drbobb: Yup, I think he's became a "Buddy" :P
[00:17] <drbobb> greg: try /etc/bash.bashrc
[00:17] <rubax> any way to reinstall it or something?
[00:17] <drbobb> or /etc/profile
[00:18] <NeoFax> rubax: What was you using to connect to the wireless AP's?
[00:18] <rubax> knetwork
[00:18] <NeoFax> A|i3N: Yes, google for it and there are tutorials.
[00:18] <NeoFax> rubax: You mean knetworkmanager?
[00:18] <rubax> yep
[00:19] <NeoFax> What errors does it give?
[00:19] <rubax> It doesnt give errors
[00:19] <A|i3N> and also does anyone know anything about a program similar to PDANet for linux? I use my spring mogual to get online..
[00:20] <Costasss> guys a quick question: is the AIGLX server subjectively/objectively quicker in redrawing windows/backgrounds/icons than bog standard X these days? Im asking because one of my pet peeves with linux is that the GUI just feels slower than OS X or XP (forget Vista)
[00:20] <A|i3N> er, sprint
[00:20] <greg> drbobb: Nothing, I have however found the bash history, so I could tell you the commands he used to enable the proxy
[00:21] <drbobb> greg: ol
[00:21] <drbobb> ok
[00:21] <NeoFax> rubax: Is the NetworkManager service running along with avahi?
[00:22] <greg> drbobb:
[00:22] <greg> export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/
[00:22] <greg> apt-get export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/
[00:22] <greg> apt-get updates export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080/
[00:22] <greg> apt-get updates export http_proxy=http://www-cache.strath.ac.uk:8080
[00:22] <tehm0nk> Anyone here use a Logitech MX Revolution mouse?
[00:22] <tehm0nk> i want my back/forward buttons to work lol
[00:23] <drbobb> greg: that makes no sense
[00:23] <greg> drbobb: :S
[00:23] <drbobb> only the first command would work
[00:23] <rubax> ok, sorry, Im back. Yes, its running along. when I see the addresses it gives nothing, but it says the wired connection is active
[00:24] <drbobb> and it wouldn't make the setting stick
[00:24] <rubax> and when I try the wireless, it tries to connect but then drops it
[00:24] <drbobb> stick across a reboot or even logout, i mean
[00:24] <rubax> then, neither of them appear on the tray
[00:24] <greg> drbobb: Mmm.. I'll look to see if he creates a file or something..
[00:25] <drbobb> when you get bored of all the sleuthing, just put a line : unset http_proxy
[00:25] <NeoFax> rubax: Try doing ifconfig in the CLI to see if you have an IP
[00:25] <drbobb> at the end of your .bashrc file
[00:25] <tehm0nk> Does Anyone know how to get a logitech mouse working?
[00:25] <tehm0nk> !logitech
[00:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:25] <kub^> tehm0nk: try here i got 5 buttons working on my g5 from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3810042
[00:26] <greg> drbobb: Cheers for your help, if I find where it was in the end i'll let you know :P
[00:26] <ardchoille> tehm0nk: I have three, I just plugged them in and they worked
[00:26] <mjponce> how to use a bamboo tablet in kubuntu ?
[00:26] <NeoFax> tehm0nk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399099
[00:26] <rubax> nope, I dont have one. I set both interfaces to dhcp
[00:26] <tehm0nk> my mx revolution has a ton of buttons, left right and Mwheel work
[00:26] <rubax> Wait. Sorry, Im not running avahi
[00:27] <rubax> it is not showing up in the process table
[00:27] <NeoFax> rubax: So, knetworkmanager said the wired connection is good and nothing shows under the wireless?
[00:27] <rubax> exactly
[00:27] <drbobb> tehm0nk: what makes a logitech mouse special?
[00:27] <drbobb> any mouse i plug in basically just works
[00:28] <NeoFax> drbobb: It has extra buttons.  All you have to do is set the extra buttons in the xorg.conf file.
[00:28] <tehm0nk> drbobb: All the buttons?
[00:28] <mjponce> someone have idea ?
[00:28] <drbobb> ah ok
[00:28] <drbobb> the hard part is deciding what you want to use them for ;>
[00:28] <kub^> forward and back for webpages is nice :)
[00:28] <NeoFax> rubax: Can you do ifup eth0 and see if you get an ip?
[00:30] <rubax> I get: No DHCP offers received
[00:31] <NeoFax> rubax: OK, then can you check your router logs to see what could be causing the problem?
[00:32] <rubax> ok
[00:32] <NeoFax> rubax: Also, is eth0 your nic card?  Probably should have asked this before.  Also, you do have an actual wired connection plus a wireless one?
[00:33] <rubax> ok, my interfaces file seems to be wrong also
[00:33] <rubax> eth0 is not my nic
[00:34] <rubax> Oh, do I need to run avahi?
[00:34] <cowlikk> i need help
[00:34] <cowlikk> pretty please
[00:34] <NeoFax> rubax: before you change the interfaces file, you need to decide if you want to use networkmanager or want to manually connect to wireless AP's
[00:34] <NeoFax> OK, if eth0 is not your nic, what is?
[00:35] <rubax> I'd like to keep using the KNM
[00:35] <NeoFax> cowlikk: What is your problem
[00:35] <cowlikk> when i log out then back in it just loads a peach screen and nothing more
[00:35] <rubax> OH, I see now. In xubuntu, I had eth0 as nic and eth1 as wired
[00:35] <NeoFax> rubax: Then don't touch the interfaces file.  It should only contain auto lo and lo loopback line
[00:36] <NeoFax> eth1 is your nic and eth0 is your wireless card.
[00:36] <rubax> it contains more stuff, let me do the pastebin
[00:37] <Dragnslcr> Any suggestions for a program to rip a CD to .flac?
[00:37] <jerware> hi
[00:37] <cowlikk> :'(
[00:38] <jerware> looking for a usb wireless nic.  are they plug and play?
[00:38] <NeoFax> cowlikk: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see what the error is
[00:38] <rubax> here it is, I have not touched this
[00:38] <rubax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49090/
[00:39] <NeoFax> rubax: delete the iface ath0 and iface eth0 line
[00:40] <cowlikk> no error in it
[00:41] <NeoFax> cowlikk: When you say that you logout, you mean KDE or linux itself?
[00:41] <kub^> i want to get a freeview tv tuner for my pc can anyone recommend one for the UK? and what sort of frontend do you use on linux?
[00:42] <cowlikk> i go to the power button in the top right sorner and go logg off then i try to log in and i get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and that is it and to get out of that i have to restart
[00:42] <NeoFax> kub^: Do you mean a tv tuner card or IPTV?
[00:42] <kub^> tv tuner car NeoFax
[00:42] <NeoFax> cowlikk: Check ~/.xsession-errors
[00:43] <cowlikk> where do i find that
[00:43] <rubax> ok, avahi-autoipd is now running. I can see the available wireless networks
[00:43] <rubax> but I cant connect to the wired and the wireless hangs up trying to configure
[00:43] <NeoFax> kub^: I would suggest the Hauppauge PVR-500 line as it has a decoder built on the board.  I would use mythtv then or tvtime
[00:44] <NeoFax> rubax: Did you delete those two lines?
[00:44] <kub^> will that work out of the box NeoFax ?
[00:44] <rubax> yes
[00:45] <NeoFax> kub^: No, you need to apt-get the ivtv drivers and then it works great.  Also, I take back the tvtime as it doesn't work yet, but mplayer does.
[00:45] <rubax> doublechecked, they are not there anymore
[00:45] <knights> I'm currently using the command
[00:45] <kub^> NeoFax: thanks mate good advice :)
[00:45] <knights> less file.pdf | festival --tts
[00:45] <knights> to read PDFs out for me
[00:46] <NeoFax> rubax: You will need to reboot your system as it needs to correct the setup of the nic and wireless cards.  You could try sudo /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart
[00:46] <knights> It works well enough as I can pause it using CTRL-Z but I'd like to improve the command so that I know how far into the PDF or text file I am, in words or pages or letters or something so that I might resume at that point later?
[00:46] <knights> any ideas how I could do this?
[00:46] <NeoFax> kub^: If you run into any problems check out the ubuntu-mythtv IRC channel
[00:46] <kub^> thanks again :)
[00:47] <rubax> DOH
[00:47] <rubax> my bad
[00:47] <cowlikk> hey where do i find ~/.xsession-errors
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> your home DIR
[00:48] <ardchoille> cowlikk: "~" = /home/your_username/
[00:48] <NeoFax> cowlikk: Do nano ~/.xsession-errors
[00:48] <etfb> cowlikk: open a terminal and type tail -f ~/.xsession-errors  That will sit there updating while you do stuff in other windows, so you don't keep having to refresh.
[00:50] <cowlikk> it sais Refusing to initialize GTK+. at the top
[00:51] <cowlikk> Window manager warning: Log level 8: gtk_menu_shell_insert: assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM (child)' failed
[00:51] <NeoFax> cowlikk: If you are using kubuntu, you shouldn't have a problem with this unless you use GNOME apps.
[00:52] <cowlikk> yeah but i cant log out and come back in without restarting my comp
[00:52] <cowlikk> im using 7.10
[00:52] <cowlikk> and i am very linux noobish
[00:53] <mjponce> well, no success histories about bamboo and Gursy gibbon. =(
[00:53] <mjponce> http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/success
[00:53] <Downix_SPARC> Ya know, porting is a pain
[00:54] <cowlikk> why does it log in fine when i first start the computer
[00:54] <NeoFax> cowlikk: Do you have both GNOME and KDE installed on your system?
[00:54] <cowlikk> i dont know i just installed the whole os last night
[00:54] <mjponce> GNOME is buggy.
[00:55] <NeoFax> Which CD did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:55] <cowlikk> ubuntu
[00:56] <NeoFax> OK, then you are using GNOME and you probably would want to go to that channel as this is KDE centric here.
[00:56] <Pete__> Thats were you went wrong then ;)
[00:57] <cowlikk> ok so #ubuntu ?
[00:57] <NeoFax> cowlikk: Yes
[00:57] <cowlikk> ok thank you all for trying
[00:57] <cowlikk> you guys are great
[00:58] <NeoFax> rubax: Is Knetworkmanager working now?
[00:59] <kub^> NeoFax: i appreciate the advice but the Hauppauge PVR-500 has 2 mpeg encoders and a remote control seems a bit of overkill and its a bit expensive for me, can you advise a lower specced model or am i good to go with any hauppage ?
[01:00] <NeoFax> kub^: I would recommend any Hauppauge as the drivers are built in to linux kernels.  Except for the ivitv stuff
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> HD5500 are good! but probably expensive
[01:00] <NeoFax> I have a PVR-150, PVR-500 and some others
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Any suggestions for a program to rip a CD to .flac?
[01:01] <NeoFax> Dragnslcr: Does k3b have flac?  If so, I would use that.  If not try EAC in wine.
[01:01] <kub^> ok thanks guys :)
[01:02] <NeoFax> kub^: Just before you buy a cheap brand make sure it is recognized and supported by the kernel
[01:02] <Dragnslcr> I checked k3b, looks like it only has .mp3, .ogg, and .wav
[01:03] <NeoFax> Dragnslcr: Mine on Sidux has FLAC.  You may need to install all of k3b's plugins for it though
[01:04] <kub^> NeoFax: i think the pvr 150 looks good for me. silly question tho do you have to hook em up to the tv aerial or do they get a good enough signal without?
[01:04] <NeoFax> You need an aerial or cable connected.  Make sure you buy the PAL version if you are in europe though.
[01:05] <kub^> NeoFax: ok
[01:05] <NeoFax> I think mine came with a cheapo aerial though
[01:05] <ardchoille> Dragnslcr: crip, mp3burn, ripit
[01:06] <NeoFax> rubax: Knetworkmanager working?
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> I figured it out. k3b just needs the flac package (libflac isn't enough)
[01:06] <rubax> Sorry, no
[01:06] <rubax> Now I have an ip for the wireless
[01:06] <rubax> and shows as connected
[01:07] <rubax> but I cant get the internet
[01:07] <rubax> and the wired is still dead :(
[01:07] <dh1> I am using a MS Wireless Laser 5000 it seems Kubuntu does see the 2 side buttons, only problem is it does some weird thing with them in Firefox, I just want it to do BACK and FORWARD
[01:07] <dh1> How can I do this
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> !mouse
[01:07] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:07] <NeoFax> rubax: What is the ip of the wireless?  Does it show as given by your router?  What is the gateway set as in ifconfig?
[01:09] <dh1> nosrednaekim: I am not saying it doesn't work. It works I just want it to do go Back and Forward
[01:09] <kub^> dh1:  try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3810042
[01:10] <sat_> hi
[01:11] <NeoFax> sat_: Hello!
[01:11] <sat_> I'm new to Ubuntu, first time here..
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> hey sat_
[01:12] <sat_> wanted to check what this is about.
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> sat_: this is the support channel for Kubuntu
[01:12] <sat_> I'm really impressed with Ubuntu.
[01:12] <NeoFax> sat_: This channel is normally for Kubuntu problems and help
[01:12] <usr002> hey do anyone knows if is available any kind of systray app that checks pop server and and automatically download messages to thunderbird
[01:13] <Pete__> usr002: Thunderbird will do that itself?
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> usr002: search apt for it... I know there is one for gmail
[01:13] <maybeway36> if you leave t-bird open, it should do that
[01:13] <maybeway36> but it doesn't go to the systemtray
[01:13] <NeoFax> usr002: No, but there are programs that check pop servers and then you can dl the mail
[01:13] <mjponce> ubuntu is another channel  sat_
[01:13] <flaccid> !info alltray
[01:13] <ubotu> alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[01:13] <usr002> uh
[01:13] <Pete__> Theres an addon for it somewhere
[01:13] <usr002> will test that
[01:14] <sat_> ok. I'm kubuntu.
[01:14] <flaccid> so just dock thunderbird.why use another client.
[01:14] <sat_> i meant i running kubuntu.
[01:14] <usr002> what do you recomend flaccid
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> sat :D... how easy was it to use... you know learning curve and all?
[01:14] <mjponce> =) sorry sat_ ,
[01:14] <Pete__> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2110 , might do the trick, although I don't know if its crossplatform or not..
[01:14] <flaccid> usr002: for what?
[01:15] <sat_> it's really easy.. didn't have any difficulty at all.
[01:15] <usr002> MinimizeToTray is not available for Linux
[01:15] <sat_> i bought the Ubuntu official book.
[01:15] <NeoFax> usr002: biff is good, but it does not download the mail it just checks the pop server.
[01:15] <rubax> Hmm. It gives me no ip address on ifconfig, but knm shows the ip. I cant run ifup either, it says: ignoring unknown interface
[01:15] <usr002> mail client
[01:15] <flaccid> usr002: no but alltray is
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> sat_: you had any previous linux/unix experience?
[01:15] <flaccid> usr002: i use opera
[01:15] <NeoFax> rubax: What is the ip 192.x.x.x?
[01:15] <usr002> no x86_64 support
[01:15] <sat_> no, prev. linux exp.
[01:16] <rubax> 192.168.1.100
[01:16] <NeoFax> sat_: Linux today is so easy compared to when I started using it.
[01:16] <sat_> how are you addressing it to me. how can i get your name .
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> sat_: cool! have you tried out installing packages and such things?
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> sat_: type the first two letters and press tab
[01:16] <NeoFax> rubax: Trying running a traceroute to see where the packets drop.
[01:16] <usr002> i started with Corel
[01:17] <usr002> lol
[01:17] <sat_> nosrednaekim: great thanks.
[01:17] <usr002> a long time ago
[01:17] <flaccid> usr002: they will probably do that when its worth doing it
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> sat_: so have you tried using the package manager?
[01:17] <rubax> Cant download the app
[01:17] <flaccid> usr002: you can still run the 32bit version iirc
[01:18] <sat_> nosrednaekim: i did try and istalled some software..
[01:18] <NeoFax> usr002: I have used it since Yggdrassil, then to RedHat like 4 something and then SuSE until pretty much Ubuntu came out and Debian distros since.
[01:18] <rubax> duh, ill install it from here hehe
[01:18] <flaccid> usr002: actually in opera 9.5 kestrel they are doing 64bit builds
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> sat_: how easy was that?
[01:18] <sat_> nosrednaekim: in fact, i've become an advocate for ubuntu
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> sat_: cool :D
[01:18] <usr002> i check it
[01:19] <sat_> nosrednaekim: i've written a review in amazon for the book and Cd. sub: Ubuntu - best product of this decade
[01:19] <flaccid> s opera 9.5 addresses 64bit and qt4 iirc
[01:19] <flaccid> the official ubuntu book needs a head check and so does the wiki. its so unorganised.
[01:19] <NeoFax> sat_: U/K/Xbuntu are all good, but somethings I can't stand how they do.  I would suggest DLing virtualbox and trying different distros to see what is out there.
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> sat_: hehe.... i've been using LInux for 5 years... so it kinda doesn't occur to me how easy Kubuntu is to use.
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> NeoFax: I disagree, I say learn one distro really well....
[01:20] <NeoFax> nosrednaekim: What distro you start on?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> NeoFax: especially when you are just starting out
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> NeoFax: Slackware for 2 years, Suse for 2, finally Kubuntu
[01:20] <maybeway36> try them all, and decide on one :)
[01:21] <maybeway36> i've used kubuntu for about 1.5 yrs, now i'm on mint
[01:21] <maybeway36> they're very similar
[01:21] <sat_> nosrednaekim: i started using kubuntu for everything. i'm using xp only for video chat.. i don't know how i can video chat in ubuntu.
[01:21] <NeoFax> nosrednaekim: I wish there was a bigger fanbase out there when I started.  I would have never went RPM distro as long as I did.  That is why I say check out other distros.
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> NeoFax: true :D
[01:21] <NeoFax> sat_: Skype, Ekiga, Kopete
[01:21] <maybeway36> I say RPM is ok, as long as there is APT
[01:22] <NeoFax> maybeway36: You have never had RPM hell then
[01:22] <maybeway36> it's apt
[01:22] <NeoFax> Kinda like dll hell on Windows
[01:22] <maybeway36> not really
[01:22] <maybeway36> only used fedora and pclinuxos a bit
[01:22] <sat_> NeoFax: i tried ekiga. but, there is some port issue. it says some other program is using it.
[01:22] <maybeway36> but APT managed everythng just fine for me
[01:23] <maybeway36> as long as i got software from the distro
[01:23] <flaccid> windows doesn't have a packaging system
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> well, that was smart....
[01:23] <flaccid> hehe
[01:23] <NeoFax> maybeway36: Apt is just a means to DL and install the package RPM is the actual package and previously RPM had a very messed up way of implementing checks and balances
[01:23] <maybeway36> i do prefer deb
[01:23] <maybeway36> i'll say that
[01:23] <NeoFax> flaccid: Checkout appupdater it is apt for windows
[01:23] <sat_> does kopete support video chat. i don't see any option for it.
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> sat_: yes it does.. only for MSN though
[01:24] <NeoFax> sat_: Open the settings and if your webcam is supported then you will see apicture there. In the webcam tab
[01:24] <flaccid> NeoFax: lol no its not.
[01:24] <Max-P> sat_: amsn and kmess also support video chat
[01:24] <NeoFax> flaccid: As close as it is going to get!!!!
[01:25] <flaccid> lol, yeah perhaps.
[01:25] <sat_> Max-P: thanks. i'll try.
[01:26] <NeoFax> Anyone here have cygwin experience?
[01:26] <sat_> which is the best open source video chat available for ubuntu.
[01:27] <NeoFax> sat_: I say Skype and Kopete, but I can't get my webcam working, so you may want to ask others
[01:27] <flaccid> skype is not really open, but then again neither is the msn protocol. hmm
[01:27] <sat_> NeoFax: i tried skype. i couldn't get it working. i'll try kopete..
[01:28] <NeoFax> How about mounting your host drive in a virtualbox linux session?
[01:28] <sat_> did anyone face port issue in ekiga
[01:30] <flaccid> RTP/XMPP is probably the best open source vide conferencing protocol
[01:42] <cowlikk> im back in here because ubuntu room is not helping
[01:43] <cowlikk> still there neofax
[01:43] <flaccid> whats the problem
[01:44] <cowlikk> when i log out and come back to log in i just get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and thats all that happens
[01:45] <flaccid> this is with kdm?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> no..thats gdm
[01:45] <cowlikk> no with gnome
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> we cannot help then
[01:45] <flaccid> sorry kubuntu doesn't use gdm
[01:46] <cowlikk> so when i am in the peach screen and nothing happens i do ctrl+alt+f5 and do a ps ax and the last thing on that list is gnome-screensaver but the screen saver works fine when i am loged in correctly
[01:46] <flaccid> yeah we don't support gnome here sorry
[01:47] <cowlikk> ok thanks anyway
[01:47] <flaccid> i would help if i knew how but i aint used gnome for years
[01:47] <etfb> I'm getting a bit annoyed with Chatzilla and Konversation. Is there a clear frontrunner for Best IRC Client In KDE?
[01:47] <tehm0nk> how do i get the mouse to do Back Forward?
[01:48] <tehm0nk> without Binding it to ALT+left/Alt-right?
[01:48] <flaccid> konversation does fine at least for most users
[01:48] <tehm0nk> i was going to install a game on here and i was Hoping it would see the buttons as normal...
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> etfb: konversating?
[01:49] <etfb> flaccid: How do you set it to wordwrap?  If I type a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really long line, it doesn't wrap (or at least it didn't when I tried before - I'll be embarrassed if it does now).
[01:50] <etfb> flaccid: Hmmm... never mind, it's working now.  Weird.
[01:50] <tehm0nk> is there a gui type mouse button binder?
[01:50] <etfb> flaccid: OK, I just need to figure out how to get it to stop with all the "[nick] has joined this channel" messages, and I'll be happy.
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> etfb: wraps for me
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> etfb: thats a setting in settings->configure konversation->chat window->hid part/join events
[01:51] <etfb> nosrednaekim: Yep, me too, now.  I was SURE it didn't before.
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> etfb: it doesn't if it doesn't have a space in between, or is a link
[01:52] <etfb> nosrednaekim: I don't have that option, and I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest version.
[01:53]  * etfb checks his version number
[01:53]  * etfb is using Konversation v1.0.1
[01:53] <adz21c> eftb: settings->configure konversation->behaviour->chat window->hide part/join/nick events
[01:53] <NeoFax> etfb: Why not create an ignore pattern if you don't have that setting?
[01:54] <adz21c> theres 2 chat windows in the config dialog
[01:54] <adz21c> caught me out
[01:54] <etfb> adz21c: Me too - what a stupid error for the designers to make.  Ah well; fixed now.  Thanks, all!
[01:55] <etfb> Hey, can someone /part and re/join the channel, just so I can be sure it's working?  Paranoid, I know...
[01:56] <adz21c> etfb: just did
[01:56] <etfb> Excellent.  Thank you!
[01:56] <adz21c> np
[01:57] <flaccid> etfb: sorry mate was afk. um check options. how did you go
[01:57] <flaccid> ah you already helped sweet as
[01:57] <etfb> I guess I can shoot Chatzilla through the head and dump its body in a shallow grave then.  Konversation will do nicely.  Thanks to you too, flaccid.
[01:58] <etfb> Now for something completely different...
[01:58] <flaccid> cool
[01:58] <etfb> Has anyone tried installing PHP4 (not 5) in Gutsy?  I'd like to do it via apt, but it's not in the repositories.  Any hints?
[01:58] <flaccid> this is a monty python free channel. j/k
[01:58] <etfb> flaccid: Well!  I didn't expect the Span
[01:58] <etfb> +++ NO CARRIER
[01:58] <flaccid> etfb: just get the latest from php site, thats what i would do
[01:59] <flaccid> lol
[01:59] <flaccid> inquisition lol
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> So I guess I won't use .flac files on my audio player
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> 300+ MB for a single album
[01:59] <flaccid> use .flaccid instead they are cooler
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[01:59] <etfb> flaccid: Trouble is that it's not covered by the auto-update then.  Also, I'm confused about the non-standard way Ubuntu installs Apache.
[02:00] <etfb> Is there a web page with Ubuntu-specific Apache info, stuff about how to configure it from source to match the standard install?
[02:00] <etfb> Hmmm... maybe our robotic friend knows...
[02:00] <etfb> !apache
[02:00] <flaccid> etfb: well if its not in a repos, then yeah it will be manual update. the implementation of apache in debian/ubuntu sux. i hate it and agree.
[02:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:01] <tehm0nk> !compiz
[02:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:01] <etfb> flaccid: I was hoping it was in a Feisty or Edgy repos, and I could get at it from there.  Might be too much trouble though.
[02:01] <flaccid> there kind of is no standard apache install. if you want normal httpd.conf and none of the rest, re-do it or don't use the apache in repos - install manual/compile
[02:02] <flaccid> etfb: then it would have different deps which probably would not work
[02:02] <etfb> flaccid: You're probably right
[02:02]  * etfb sighs resignedly
[02:02] <flaccid> yeah unfortunately i do this for a living lol. i use freebsd for web servers :)
[02:03] <etfb> flaccid: Ah yes, BSD... for people who hate that Gentoo is too mainstream now...
[02:03] <etfb> flaccid: I bet you won't listen to any band that's popular enough to be played on JJJ, right?
[02:04]  * etfb ducks and runs
[02:04] <flaccid> lol, nah us bsd people don't get caught up in the bs. and yeah bsd kernel not linux kernel
[02:04] <flaccid> well my nickname is actually from a band frequently played on jjj - grinspoon.
[02:05] <tehm0nk> does Compiz Get along with Xinerama?
[02:05] <etfb> flaccid: Ah well, I might to a complete Apache install via apt, figure out where it puts things, then remove and redo it from sources to steal all the good ideas and dump the rest.
[02:05] <flaccid> tehm0nk: usually if you have enough vram.
[02:05] <etfb> flaccid: Hours of time-wasting ahoy!
[02:05] <tehm0nk> flaccid: i just tryied to enable it and my windows got all jacked up
[02:05] <etfb> Lunchtime and battery nearly depleted. Must go.  Bye all.
[02:06] <flaccid> etfb: yeah thats debian/apache for you. i have 1 ubuntu server and i just adopted and used the sites-available/enabled system
[02:06] <flaccid> tehm0nk: #compiz-fusion might be able to help
[02:08] <flaccid> time to chop and make a coffee
[02:12] <tehm0nk> yeah they're no help there everyone is sleeping lol
[02:15] <flaccid> compiz fusion works ok when using xrandr, not sure on xinerama..
[02:40] <blizzzek> gn8
[02:42] <Downix_SPARC> man I hate configure script issues
[02:43] <awag> anyone here have an ipod working in amarok?
[02:44] <Downix_SPARC> awag:  just say no!
[02:44] <cowlikk> can anyone in here help me with gnome
[02:44] <awag> to ipods?
[02:44] <cowlikk> the people in ubuntu room dont like me
[02:45] <flaccid> haha
[02:45] <flaccid> !ipod
[02:45] <awag> that is funny
[02:45] <awag> hmm nothing
[02:45] <cowlikk> thats ok i like kubuntu room better anyway
[02:45] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:45] <awag> there we go
[02:45] <awag> yeah well, the thing is, I got it working
[02:45] <awag> and then something happened
[02:45] <flaccid> did you try #amarok
[02:45] <awag> yeah
[02:45] <awag> :(
[02:45] <flaccid> i would help but i dont have an ipd
[02:46] <awag> np
[02:46] <awag> i'll figure it out
[02:49] <tehm0nk> flaccid: do you use xrandr?
[02:49] <tehm0nk> Does it work with 2 Videocards?
[02:50] <flaccid> yeah and yeah
[02:50] <tehm0nk> can you help me with it?
[02:51] <bazhang> awag: you want to transfer music to your ipod from amarok?
[02:51] <awag> bazhang: yeah, and amarok was autodetecting my ipod, and letting me do whatever until today
[02:52] <bazhang> awag: you need to first open amarok, then connect your ipod--it will autodetect it once that happens
[02:52] <awag> bazhang: today I had a problem after i used a program (windows program mediamonkey i thin) on my friend's computer to try and upload some songs
[02:52] <tehm0nk> !xrandr
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <awag> so i restored it via i-tunes
[02:53] <awag> and then i reedited the sysinfo file
[02:53] <awag> like i had done before
[02:53] <ardchoille> !info xrandr | tehm0nk
[02:53] <ubotu> tehm0nk: xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[02:53] <awag> but now it own't show up in amarok
[02:53] <flaccid> tehm0nk: use xrandr -q to see what can do
[02:53] <bazhang> awag: oh, then that would be a windows issue; once you restored it via itunes now it no longer works--is that it?
[02:53] <awag> it shows up in every other program
[02:53] <flaccid> tehm0nk: if you google this stuff there is lots.. and probably on wiki somwhere
[02:53] <se7en> !kde4
[02:53] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[02:53] <awag> bazhang: right,  even though after the restore, i did the same things in i did to it to get it working the first time around
[02:54] <tehm0nk> But MOST of what i have been reading on it.... is for 1 videocard which... if i set mine up that way
[02:54] <tehm0nk> i'll have 1 screen.
[02:54] <bazhang> awag: so you want to transfer newer music to it? be sure amarok is open then connect it--if it is already connected it will likely not work
[02:54] <jamster545> hello
[02:55] <bazhang> do you have a question jamster545?
[02:55] <jamster545> yeah. how do i install a program from a .deb package?\
[02:55] <bazhang> jamster545: which program?
[02:55] <ardchoille> jamster545: Which app?
[02:56] <jamster545> AVG free edition
[02:57] <jamster545> hello?
[02:57] <tehm0nk> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:57] <bazhang> jamster545: are you running a mail server supporting windows computers? if not then clamav should do the trick, and that is even not really necessary itself
[02:57] <flaccid> maybe you are right tehm0nk
[02:57] <jamster545> no i am not
[02:57] <awag> bazhang: not working :( when i did it exactly like this yesterday, it came right up
[02:57] <ardchoille> jamster545: You don't really need anti vuris for Linux
[02:58] <ardchoille> *virus
[02:58] <jamster545> i need AVG installed because my school IT person said that in order for me to be allowed to connect to my home machine as a proxy i would need antivirus
[02:58] <tehm0nk> with Xrandr does it have a menu across both screens or just 1?
[02:58] <flaccid> tehm0nk: does only 1 card come up in xrandr -q or both?
[02:58] <tehm0nk> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:58] <tehm0nk> that comes up...
[02:58] <flaccid> jamster545: is this on windows or linux?
[02:58] <ardchoille> jamster545: Does this IT person know you run Linux?
[02:59] <bazhang> awag: I have had that issue; quit amarok be sure your ipod is disconnected, restart amarok, then reconnect the ipod--closing the amarok window does not quit it by the way--be sure it is truly closed
[02:59] <flaccid> tehm0nk: i would google that. which version of ubuntu is this
[02:59] <jamster545> yeah, but i stil want it because it is shared linux/windows machine so if something gets on the windows part it could migrate and transmit itsself
[02:59] <tehm0nk> kubuntu, 10.something
[02:59] <sat_> i moved from xp to kubuntu. no issues of virus/adware. performance is much better.
[02:59] <greg> Jamster545: You've got AVG installed *wink* *wink*..
[03:00] <bazhang> jamster545: thinkof kubuntu as AVG on steroids
[03:00] <stdin> jamster545: it can't migrate from windows to linux
[03:00] <jamster545> i just want to be safe bcuz he is also my friend and he has been suspending kids for connect remote to their machines and getting viruses onto the server
[03:00] <tehm0nk> lol duh... Disable Xinerama...
[03:00] <tehm0nk> haha
[03:00] <ardchoille> jamster545: There aren't any active viruses for Linux and windows viruses don't work in Linux: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[03:01]  * BluesKaj has a commercial version of XP Pro with the TOL Symantec anti-everything loaded ...ok so far
[03:01] <jamster545> i know that but still...
[03:01] <tehm0nk> brb
[03:01] <jamster545> THEN WHY WOULD THEY MAKE IT FOR LINUX ANYWAY THEN??? sorry 4 the caps
[03:01] <Downix_SPARC> bazhang: I took it one step further, Kubuntu on SPARC.
[03:02] <bazhang> jamster545: to spread fear uncertainty and doubt (fud).
[03:02] <bazhang> Downix_SPARC: wow that is nice
[03:02] <jamster545> sun micro=ok  solaris=crappy
[03:02] <Downix_SPARC> jamster545: Linux is used as a server in many cases, the scanner would be scanning incoming emails and traffic for the windows boxes behind it.
[03:02] <jamster545> can you please just help me install the .deb? it contains two tarballs and a binary script
[03:03] <stdin> !deb | jamster545
[03:03] <ubotu> jamster545: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[03:03] <sat_> ardchoille: thanks for the link. useful info.
[03:03] <Downix_SPARC> jamster545: you do dpkg -i *deb)
[03:03] <ardchoille> sat_: yw
[03:03] <jamster545> i did and it opened Ark
[03:03] <flaccid> jamster545: probably for commercial purposes
[03:03] <jamster545> i know that ubuntu is debian based
[03:03] <jamster545> no it is a free edition for home use only
[03:04] <flaccid> just because it is free doesn't mean it is not commercial
[03:04] <stdin> jamster545: then try right-clicking and look in the menu, there should be a Kubuntu Installer menu
[03:04] <jamster545> found it
[03:04] <jamster545> kubuntu package menu>install
[03:05] <jamster545> tyvm
[03:05] <flaccid> also if you have fat/ntfs paritions eg. multiboot you could run the av and get rid of viruses on the win partitions without booting into windows
[03:05] <jamster545> g2g moms whining
[03:05] <jamster545> /leave
[03:05] <flaccid> haha
[03:05] <bazhang> AVG? yeesh
[03:05] <Downix_SPARC> jamster545: Incidentally, Sun doessn't have a micro.  I think you're considering the SPARC, which is an open standard CPU produced by Fujitsu, Texas Instruments, and Geisler
[03:06] <awag> bazhang: ok i did that a few times, still not working, can you tell me what you have as your pre-connect command and post-disconnect command in amarok?
[03:06] <Downix_SPARC> I love my new TI SPARC
[03:06] <flaccid> feel free to send me a sparc
[03:07] <awag> bazhang: i tried doing various mount and umount things that i found online for that.. not sure if this is the problem or not
[03:07] <awag> last time it just autodetected
[03:10] <bazhang> awag: you need to be sure that amarok is really and truly quit--it will leave an applet in the menu panel when you close the window--you need to right click--quit on that; then restart amarok--go to devices (left side panel of interface window, connect ipod via usb--the autodetect mechanism should then pick it up--not the kubuntu usb detection (another separate window), but the one within that devices panel
[03:10] <flaccid> can also do a killall amarokapp
[03:10] <flaccid> then check ps aux | grep amarok to see any childs/scripts left over
[03:11] <tehm0nk> ok
[03:11] <tehm0nk> xinerama is off now
[03:11] <awag> bazhang: ok i've been truly quiting amarok, but i've only been just unplugging my ipod from the cable, not the cable from the usb port, i'll try that
[03:11] <Downix_SPARC> flaccid: You can pick up an Ultra 10 for cheap.
[03:11] <tehm0nk> !paste
[03:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <flaccid> i don't need one but a free one is cool :)
[03:12] <bazhang> haha
[03:12] <tehm0nk> and here is what xrandr -q gave me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49104/
[03:13] <Coldwar55> Has anyone tried the new 7.12 Catalyst driver?
[03:13] <flaccid> and boh cards are plugged in i assume, i guess one comes up because only 1 is in xorg.conf or maybe you can't do two cards xrandr sharing virtual ?
[03:14] <Downix_SPARC> got mmy last 2 for free
[03:14] <flaccid> in the screen part of xorg.conf should be a virtual directive in         SubSection "Display" like                 Virtual         3360 1050
[03:15] <flaccid> tehm0nk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588671
[03:15] <bmk789> sweet! 1920x1200 on the liveCD using nv driver
[03:15] <bmk789> impressive
[03:16]  * tehm0nk cries.
[03:16] <flaccid> yep i do that too bmk789 :) and good thing is that it does it auto/native on those monitors unlike winbl0ze
[03:16] <bmk789> flaccid: yep :)
[03:16] <tehm0nk> so unless i run separate x screens, i can't use compiz, cause it freaks out if i use it with xinerama...
[03:17] <tehm0nk> oh well i'll figure it out tomorrow
[03:17] <tehm0nk> off to the movies
[03:17] <flaccid> the good ol 'i'll increase your resolution for you' and it doesn't even go to native/max
[03:17] <tehm0nk> ty tho
[03:17] <flaccid> ok
[03:17] <jnp3134> I know this is probably a frequent question, but does anyone know how to set the default sound card in a dual soundcard system?
[03:17] <awag> bazhang: ok, got it working, my settings that i had manually set in the amarok config had vanished for some reason, and when i put those back in it worked, thanks for the help
[03:17] <bazhang> awag: great news!
[03:17] <awag> :)
[03:20] <Downix_SPARC> I'd just like to get AROS on my SPARC
[03:20] <Downix_SPARC> grr, I hate configure script errors
[03:23] <ardchoille> !nickspam | cpt_moehr
[03:23] <ubotu> cpt_moehr: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:24] <Downix_SPARC> and as configure isn't binary, I can't just gdb it
[03:25] <ganjaman> high
[03:25] <cpt_moehr> totally new user. sorry i upset the room. won't be back.
[03:26] <Downix_SPARC> nobody was upset, but it can cause collisions and lag, basic IRC etiquette
[03:26] <ganjaman> duke nukem forever lol
[03:27] <bazhang> ganjaman: got a question?
[03:27] <Coldwar55> I'm guessing none's tried the 7.12 catalyst driver?
[03:27] <Downix_SPARC> ganjaman: Can't say "coming soon for Amiga OS 5.0" now....
[03:27] <bazhang> ati Coldwar55?
[03:27] <Downix_SPARC> Coldwar55: I tried it for 10 minutes, broke my system
[03:27] <Coldwar55> Yes
[03:27] <Coldwar55> Oh Downix?
[03:27] <Coldwar55> How so?
[03:28] <ganjaman> lol
[03:28] <Downix_SPARC> total system lockup
[03:28] <Coldwar55> What card do you have?
[03:28] <Downix_SPARC> X1050
[03:28] <Coldwar55> Hmm ok
[03:28] <ganjaman> ah
[03:28] <Coldwar55> Brand?
[03:28] <Downix_SPARC> not the newest, but it does me well
[03:28] <ganjaman> ati
[03:28] <Downix_SPARC> ATI
[03:28] <Coldwar55> err
[03:28] <Coldwar55> Oh
[03:28] <Coldwar55> ATI branded?
[03:28] <Coldwar55> I see
[03:28] <ganjaman> you need to install some amd stuff
[03:28] <Coldwar55> I have an X1600 Pro
[03:29] <ganjaman> try using envy for ati or something
[03:29] <ardchoille> !envy
[03:29] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:29] <Coldwar55> lol
[03:29] <Coldwar55> I guess I will wait for more posts to go around about 7.12 since it was only released today.
[03:29] <Downix_SPARC> heh
[03:29] <Coldwar55> I'll stick with 7.11 for now.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> Coldwar55, try the restricted driver in system settings /advanced
[03:30] <ganjaman> ok its not supported, and i had to install and compile my drivers manualy
[03:30] <Coldwar55> "If it ain't broke, why fix it" ^^
[03:30] <ganjaman> because the beta driver supports the cuda, and i do some cudastic things¨
[03:30] <Coldwar55> hmm ok
[03:30] <Coldwar55> Well
[03:30] <Coldwar55> I've been wanting Decent Compiz/AIGLX support for some time now but that's still yet to come.
[03:31] <Coldwar55> I mean the support is there, just the ability is horrible.
[03:32] <Coldwar55> I went through quite a few hoops to get 7.11 working properly so I think I will wait instead of jumping to the new one.
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Coldwar55: i'm planning on Dl it tonight and testing
[03:33] <ganjaman> i hope for linux kernels with included gfx drivers
[03:33] <ganjaman> so nobody has to care about a driver
[03:33] <Coldwar55> I don't see a reason to upgrade since I don't run 3D applications
[03:33] <Coldwar55> So the memory leak doesn't affect me.
[03:39] <tuxwulf_> How do I reconfigure my desktop size?
[03:40] <tuxwulf_> I mean, my monitor complains it can not display the size, and I never see kubuntu. But perhaps I can re-set it in maintenance mode...
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> tuxwulf_: yes, you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:42] <tuxwulf_> nosrednaekim: Exactly what I was looking for! I tried xorg, xserver, x, ... did not think to combine all that... Thanks!
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> NP
[03:46] <Jay-Oh-En> hi guys
[03:46] <Jay-Oh-En> whatchya' doin'
[03:47] <se7en> is someone using kde4 already
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> se7en: yup
[03:48] <se7en> nosrednaekim: did you loose your taskbar after the last update?
[03:50] <no0tic> hi, I want to add my user to fuse group, so in konsole I did: sudo adduser no0tic fuse, closed konsole and reopened, but groups doesn't show I'm in fuse group. In /etc/groups there is. In tty1 I've no problems. I think it's due to non login shell. How do I make konsole run a login shell?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> se7en: in kde3?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> no0tic: you need to log out
[03:51] <no0tic> nosrednaekim, from kde?
[03:52] <se7en> nosrednaekim: no in a kde4 session
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> no0tic: yes
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> se7en: nope.. haven't had that happen.
[03:53] <se7en> nosrednaekim: there is not much to do to get it back or?
[03:53] <tazgodx> is there a terminal command to find out if my firewire PCI card is recognized and working?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> se7en: erase your .kde4/share/config/.plasma-appletsrc
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> tazgodx: sudo lshw
[03:54] <no0tic> nosrednaekim, ok, it worked, thanks
[03:55] <tazgodx> well, looks like its working, thanks :)
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> haveta go all.
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> tazgodx: NP
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> se7en: that work?
[03:57] <se7en> nosrednaekim: wooooooh that worked thanks a lot
[03:57] <se7en> cool
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> se7en: NP
[03:57] <se7en> :)
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> later all
[04:04] <bazhang> bye
[04:07] <mel> hello :)
[04:08] <Jay-Oh-En> !hi | mel
[04:08] <mel> i just installed kubuntu and am wondering how to change the menu settings so that the whole path is NOT displayed?
[04:08] <ubotu> mel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:08] <flaccid_> which menu is this mel
[04:08] <mel> the system menu
[04:09] <flaccid_> the menu with a K on it?
[04:09] <mel> right now it's not really usefol becasue of the looooooong descriptive text. I just want the app name and an icon
[04:09] <mel> yes, the L menu
[04:10] <flaccid_> so take out the description suffix in the listing of items in the menu?
[04:10] <mel> there isn't enought room for the app name because "descriptive" mode is on (or something like this)
[04:10] <mel> there is a setting for that in KDE
[04:10] <flaccid_> that can be changed, just trying to remember where
[04:11] <flaccid_> ok you configure it in the kde panel | menus
[04:11] <flaccid_> goto panel menu | configure panel
[04:11] <flaccid_> you probably want Name only
[04:11] <mel> YAY
[04:12] <mel> thanks so much :)
[04:12] <flaccid> np mel
[04:12] <mel> are there any blender users here?
[04:12] <flaccid> !info blender
[04:13] <mel> i'm a graphics artist and would like to meet blender users on the linux platform (if such animals exist)
[04:13]  * flaccid tries to remember what that is
[04:13] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.44-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7168 kB, installed size 18628 kB
[04:13] <flaccid> right
[04:13] <flaccid> is there a #blender ?
[04:13] <mel> hmmm, i haven't used irc in maybe 10 years
[04:13] <mel> just found this help channel button
[04:14] <flaccid> about 50 people in that chan atm
[04:14] <mel> the reason i'm asking is that after updating is done, I'd like to install a custom compiled blender version and maybe need a bit of help with various libs
[04:14] <mel> cool!
[04:14] <mel> You need to be identified to join that channel :(
[04:14] <flaccid> yeah
[04:14] <mel> how can one be identified?
[04:14] <flaccid> !register
[04:15] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[04:15] <mel> that too is good to know
[04:15] <mel> wow, 234098 pages to read jsut to register :)  lol
[04:16] <ardchoille> mel: /msg nickserv help register
[04:16] <flaccid> lol
[04:16] <seanix> ok, now i need to find a nick that's still available! yikes :)
[04:17] <se7en> !lynx
[04:17] <ubotu> Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[04:17] <vancouv_er> yay, success!
[04:17] <vancouv_er> that wasn't toooo bad
[04:17] <flaccid> cool
[04:19]  * flaccid keeps reading boring doco
[04:20] <vancouv_er> flaccid: are you on 64bit kubuntu?
[04:20] <flaccid> negative
[04:21] <flaccid> Linux lister 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:21] <vancouv_er> k
[04:22] <flaccid> !find cake
[04:22] <ubotu> Found: cakephp, cakephp-scripts
[04:22] <flaccid> hmm
[04:23] <vancouv_er> that blender channel is dead
[04:23] <flaccid> could be wrong time of day for users. idling is recommended/waiting for response over say 2 days lol
[04:23] <vancouv_er> good thing i'm not in my 60's
[04:25] <vancouv_er> great my update is done
[04:25] <vancouv_er> now that fun part :)
[04:25] <vancouv_er> nite all :)
[04:44] <kajsdklajsd> hello, how can i access the folder /Users/My Documents/ from a kubuntu livecd, i can see any other folder but some of the folders in /Users/My Documents/, is there anyway of jumping over the permissions? (sorry if this question is out of place)
[04:45] <flaccid> um is /Users on a hard disk in the computer, not the live cd?
[04:46] <kajsdklajsd> yes, /users is sda1 ntfs windows vista
[04:46] <kajsdklajsd> i want to backup
[04:46] <flaccid> learn how to mount with fstab
[04:46] <flaccid> !fstab
[04:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:46] <flaccid> !ntfs
[04:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[04:47] <kajsdklajsd> i already mounted, the problem is the windows vista permissions
[04:47] <kajsdklajsd> i mounted with ntfs-3g support
[04:47] <flaccid> how do you know that
[04:47] <kajsdklajsd> becouse i can see everything but some folders like My Documents
[04:47] <flaccid> what is the output of mount | grep sda1
[04:48] <flaccid> they are encrypted, not sure how to unencrypt them. its when users say 'make this folder private'
[04:48] <kajsdklajsd> yes, that is
[04:48] <kajsdklajsd> must be some way out there
[04:49] <flaccid> ntfs-3g cannot decrypt those encrypted files. you need to go into windows if its still available and unencrypt them
[04:49] <kajsdklajsd> the so is unusable
[04:49] <kajsdklajsd> =((((
[04:49] <kajsdklajsd> os*
[04:50] <flaccid> reinstall windows on it ie. do a reinstall not a new install
[04:50] <flaccid> or recover it or whatever
[04:50] <kajsdklajsd> the problem is that is an hp notebook and they do not give you vista dvd and the recovery tool is fucked up too
[04:51] <evjunior09> Can someone help me run iTunes with WINE? I know i know, i hateee it! but my iPod Touch won't work untill it connects with iTunes. So I need it or i have 317.00 down the drain
[04:51] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: contact HP.
[04:52] <kajsdklajsd> yes, i will finally end up doing that, but i hate so much those guys...
[04:52] <bazhang> kajsdklajsd: watch the language please
[04:52] <flaccid> ah well
[04:52] <bazhang> evjunior09: does not work with amarok?
[04:52] <kajsdklajsd> now i know that they ONLY support windows vista, so you can not install any other OS with support...
[04:52] <evjunior09> bazhang: it will, but it needs to be activated by iTunes
[04:53] <kajsdklajsd> if you install linux they will tell you "we only help you if you have your computer with it's default os"
[04:53] <evjunior09> it works with Windows XP also, but i don't have windows
[04:53] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: they are doing the right thing.
[04:53] <bazhang> evjunior09: Aha--vendor lock-in :{
[04:53] <kajsdklajsd> so i can not do what i want with my computer?
[04:53] <evjunior09> Vendor Lock In??
[04:54] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: you can do what you want, it doesn't stop you from doing anything. they don't support linux.
[04:54] <kajsdklajsd> i have to do what they tell me to, and i spent 4.000 dollars
[04:54] <flaccid> you chose the vista notebook...
[04:54] <flaccid> not them
[04:54] <kajsdklajsd> yes but they dont tell you this when you buy it
[04:54] <flaccid> there are linux notebooks available and hp doesn't make them
[04:54] <kajsdklajsd> in my country there arent, dell only ships with vista
[04:54] <Downix_SPARC> kajsdklajsd: You should have done your homework.
[04:54] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: they are not obliged to.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> I dont expect ANY support at all from any company.... :)
[04:55] <Downix_SPARC> flaccid: I have a SPARC laptop I've been eye'ing.
[04:55] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: the point is you are trying to recover windows files. we support kubuntu here and hp supports vista...
[04:55] <Zombocom> I need help I have no sound
[04:55] <Zombocom> at all
[04:55] <evjunior09> Kajsdklajsd: I have a Dell and it broke down after 2 years, they wouldnt give me any support or anything thats why im with Kubuntu, and im sooo glas i got it.
[04:55] <Zombocom> !sound
[04:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:55] <evjunior09> bazhang: any help?
[04:56] <kajsdklajsd> i know flaccid, i'm not demanding anything here, just asking for friendly advice
[04:56] <Zombocom> that tip does not work for me
[04:56] <bazhang> evjunior09: do you have a friend with iTunes? otherwise wine with itunes seems to be it
[04:56] <evjunior09> bazhang: I do, but than my iPod will be locked to their computer only
[04:57] <Zombocom> the sound system is enabled
[04:57] <Zombocom> if you're going to do wine with itunes
[04:57] <flaccid> kajsdklajsd: no problem. the problem here is the encryption. microsoft aint going to give that key/algorithm to the ntfs/fuse project...
[04:57] <Zombocom> I don't think it can be done
[04:57] <evjunior09> bazhang: iTunes on WINE wont work?
[04:57] <bazhang> evjunior09: I see; then it is wine and itunes I guess- it stinks they dont have a linux client though
[04:58] <Zombocom> Will reconfiguring the Xserver allow me to get sound?
[04:58] <kajsdklajsd> ok, now i know that livecd is not the answer, thank you very much.
[04:58] <kajsdklajsd> good bye
[04:58] <bazhang> evjunior09: never tried it--though have heard of it working
[04:59] <Zombocom> wait
[04:59] <evjunior09> bazhang: okay thanks. its installing crappy QuickTime so i can try iTunes
[04:59] <Zombocom> nevermind
[04:59] <bazhang> evjunior09: you can also check #winehq
[05:03] <evjunior09> Does anyone else have the problem with WINE apps making your screen all black
[05:04] <ubuntu> hey guys, i'm having a problem booting kubuntu, whenever I try to boot, it gives me an ERROR 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure
[05:05] <Doctor_Nick> I'm on a live cd on the same computer right now, i'm able to mount the filesystem and look at the files, and i've run fsck on it, but its still giving me the error
[05:06] <Doctor_Nick> ext3 filesystem, btw
[05:07] <flaccid> i've done itunes with wine but no sound worked
[05:08] <Doctor_Nick> oh, and this was after a kernel update
[05:10] <flaccid> Doctor_Nick: what error is it
[05:10] <Doctor_Nick> ERROR 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure
[05:11] <Doctor_Nick> whenever i try to boot into any kernel image
[05:11] <flaccid> is that a grub error or from something else?
[05:11] <flaccid> is this after init ?
[05:11] <Doctor_Nick> grub error
[05:11] <flaccid> did you google the grub error to see what else to do
[05:12] <Doctor_Nick> yes
[05:20] <flaccid> you were running fsck off the livecd on the partition/fs ?
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> yes
[05:21] <flaccid> what was the command you ran ?
[05:21] <flaccid> also please pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[05:24] <Doctor_Nick> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/826443
[05:25] <Doctor_Nick> i just ran fsck /dev/sda1
[05:25] <flaccid> probably didn't do write mode
[05:26] <flaccid> lets have a look at man fsck
[05:27] <flaccid> try it with at least -aV
[05:27] <flaccid> and any other options you think are relevant in man fsck. if no luck then im not sure
[05:28] <Doctor_Nick> fsck checked out fine though, no errors
[05:29] <dwisen_> can someone help me with a star menu problem
[05:29] <dwisen_> start*
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> is yours not booting also?
[05:30] <dwisen_> after doing an update from Adept Manager i have noticed that not all of the programs are in my start menu
[05:30] <Sulo_Seppa> Well well, KDE4 will be in 8.04. And stdin didn't believe me :p
[05:31] <dwisen_> is there an ap that will scan for programs and auto install them to my menu like in some other distros?
[05:31] <flaccid> Doctor_Nick:  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/64928 and http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ERROR+16:+Inconsistent+filesystem+structure+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[05:32] <etfb> I keep getting errors and missing documentation when I install KDE software.  Can anyone point me to an explanation of how to set up KDE Help so it's not empty?
[05:32] <dwisen_> hey thats another thing my search from start menu is gone
[05:32] <dwisen_> i just noticed that
[05:33] <dwisen_> what the hell is going on?
[05:33] <flaccid> don't know
[05:33] <flaccid> configure the panel and see if it comes back
[05:33] <dwisen_> i installed some things from Adept and they did not show in my start menu   aps such as ClamAv
[05:33] <dwisen_> and now my search is gone too
[05:34] <dwisen_> is there an auto menu updater for kubuntu?
[05:34] <flaccid> nope
[05:34] <flaccid> there is the menu editor and configure panel
[05:34] <dwisen_> or like an ap search that will ad them to my menu?
[05:34] <dwisen_> shyt
[05:34] <flaccid> not that i know of
[05:34] <dwisen_> all manual?
[05:35] <flaccid> its usually the responsibility of the package to add the menu item iirc
[05:35] <dwisen_> that needs to be changed,,,, i knew i should not have gotten rid of my slackware
[05:35] <dwisen_> nothing but problems with kubuntu
[05:35] <flaccid> how would it be changed?
[05:35] <dwisen_> what do you mean    like missing items?
[05:36] <flaccid> you said it needs to be changed. what would you want changed. if you have missing items then its obvious you have a problem. normal users don't have missing items.
[05:36] <dwisen_> i dunno i did an update with Adept and got some programs    and they never added to my menu and now some are gone
[05:37] <dwisen_> oh i said they need an auto menu updater like in slackware
[05:37] <flaccid> dwisen_: what is the name of it in slackware. its linux..
[05:37] <dwisen_> ummm
[05:37] <dwisen_> i dont remember i only had to use it once
[05:38] <flaccid> i don't get how it would 'update' the menu. what would it be updating it from exactly?
[05:38] <dwisen_> kappfinder
[05:38] <flaccid> !find kappfinder
[05:38] <ubotu> Found: kappfinder, kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
[05:39] <flaccid> !info kappfinder
[05:39] <ubotu> kappfinder: non-KDE application finder for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 312 kB, installed size 1492 kB
[05:39] <flaccid> its available you just need to install it
[05:39] <dibyajyoti> can anybdy tell me where to find this ebook free on the net: DCE/RPC over SMB: Samba and Windows NT Domain Internals
[05:39] <dibyajyoti> by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[05:39] <dwisen_> thank you
[05:39] <flaccid> dibyajyoti: don't ask that here.
[05:39] <dibyajyoti> why??
[05:39] <flaccid> !warez
[05:39] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[05:39] <flaccid> this is also the kubuntus support channel.
[05:39] <dibyajyoti> sorry folks
[05:40] <dwisen_> hey flac
[05:40] <dwisen_> it saus appfinder is installed but its not in my menu    how do i run it?
[05:40] <dwisen_> says*
[05:40] <flaccid> never used it. goto alt+f2 and enter appfinder or kappfinder
[05:41] <dwisen_> ok thanks brb
[05:41] <Sulo_Seppa> how do I search packages in terminal, and is there regex support?
[05:41] <bazhang> apt-cache search packagename/related term
[05:43] <nickv111> Hello, all. I just installed Gutsy on my computer. One of my goals was to get Compiz working. Anyway, after a lot of trouble, I got Xgl and Compiz working. However, the "cube" effect doesn't quite work the way I want it to. Instead of a cube, I have a piece of paper, with two desktops. Increasing the number of desktops I have doesn't help; if I have four desktops, 1 and 3 are just one side of the sheet of paper, and 2 and 4 are the
[05:43] <nickv111> other. That is, they both serve as the same desktop. How can I make a cube like I intended?
[05:43] <flaccid> i have the same problem nickv111. no idea how to fix it... :(
[05:43] <flaccid> is that ati card by any chance?
[05:43] <nickv111> flaccid: No, Nvidia
[05:44] <nickv111> flaccid: Glad someone shares my troubles, at least.
[05:44] <nickv111> flaccid: Though it is pissing me off.
[05:44] <flaccid> yeah i don't know why it does this. maybe #compiz-fusion can help
[05:44] <bazhang> nickv111: turn off wall in ccsm and turn on 3d cube and rotate cube
[05:44] <flaccid> yeah pisses me off bad..
[05:44] <nickv111> bazhang: That's not the problem.
[05:44] <nickv111> bazhang: 3d cube and rotate cube are on
[05:44] <flaccid> really is that?
[05:44] <flaccid> it
[05:44] <nickv111> bazhang: But I don't have a cube. I have a piece of paper. A piece of paper that I can rotate around.
[05:44] <dwisen_> beryl?
[05:45] <nickv111> Compiz
[05:45] <bazhang> nickv111: under general, increase number of virtual horizontal desktops to four
[05:45] <dwisen_> oh Beryl is ALOT better
[05:45] <bazhang> ccsm--general
[05:45] <bazhang> nickv111: ccsm-general--those settings
[05:46] <flaccid> i will try that later, but yeah i never saw a cube only a 'piece of paper'
[05:46] <nickv111> bazhang: Doesn't help. Like I said in my question, every time I increase it, they just alternate
[05:47] <bazhang> nickv111: that is the setting
[05:47] <nickv111> Huh?
[05:48] <nickv111> Also, when I use Desktop Wall, I can only get two desktops to function
[05:48] <nickv111> Basically the same issue.
[05:48] <nickv111> It's really, really annoying.
[05:49] <bazhang> nickv111: you are increasing the desktops in the wrong place, also turn off desktop wall; disabling and re-enabling compiz may help as well nividia card here and those precise things work fine
[05:49] <nickv111> Where am I supposed to increase the desktops?
[05:49] <nickv111> Under ccsm general, no?
[05:49] <nickv111> Because that's where I'm increasing them.
[05:50] <nickv111> And still, no luck.
[05:50] <flaccid> yep same behaviour for me
[05:50] <flaccid> iirc
[05:51] <nickv111> So what am I supposed to do?
[05:51] <flaccid> you are not supposed to do anything but nag the compiz-fusion team
[05:51] <bazhang> ccsm--general--desktop size--horizontal virtual size=4
[05:53] <nickv111> bazhang: Aha!
[05:53] <nickv111> bazhang: Wow, thanks!
[05:53] <nickv111> bazhang: That actually worked. . . :)
[05:53] <nickv111> bazhang: Thanks a lot, dude.
[05:53] <bazhang> no problem.
[05:57] <earthsound> is hotplugging of wacom tablets achievable in 7.10? i have read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTabletIssue and a few other resources & have only one problem:
[05:57] <earthsound> the graphire 4 tablet is plugged into a monitor & when it comes back from power save mode, it loses it's "relative" mode
[05:57] <earthsound> has anyone had any luck getting tablet input devices to keep their settings when the USB comes back up from power save, etc.?
[05:57] <flaccid> i will note that bazhang thanks alot!
[05:57] <bazhang> no worries flaccid :}
[05:58] <earthsound> it keeps going back to absolute mode instead of staying in relative
[05:58] <bazhang> earthsound: you tried plugging it into a usb port on the computer, ie not through the monitor?
[06:00] <Zombocom> I need help
[06:00] <earthsound> no, that's something i overlooked. :|
[06:00] <Zombocom> how do I free the adept manager?
[06:00] <Zombocom> !adept
[06:00] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:00] <Zombocom> I terminated an adept program early
[06:01] <bazhang> !aptfix | Zombocom
[06:01] <ubotu> Zombocom: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:01] <Zombocom> thank you
[06:06] <earthsound> bbiab
[06:07] <xt|away> is there a tutorial for setting up my kubuntu computer to network with my winxp computer, with full read/write both ways?
[06:11] <ardchoille> !away > xt828
[06:11] <bazhang> xt828: you mean sharing files via samba? or something else
[06:11] <dibyajyoti> is there any good tutorial on IRC bot design
[06:12] <nickv111> Use eggdrop ;)
[06:12] <xt828> well, i guess - i just went through the samba tutorial on the ubuntu wiki but it didn't work
[06:13] <dibyajyoti> thanx nick
[06:16] <bazhang> xt828: you can also ask in #samba if you dont get help here
[06:17] <xt828> okay, cheers
[06:21] <Dudebag> what's the command
[06:21] <zombocom> what's the command to run a script?
[06:21] <zombocom> sh scriptname?
[06:25] <mempman> does anybody know if i can find ALSA-driver respository
[06:28] <mempman> anybody..?
[06:29] <earthsound> bazhang: the tablet is plugged into a USB port on the computer...we'll see if it sticks. thanks for the suggestion :)
[06:29] <earthsound> on a side note, does anyone here use firefox?
[06:29] <earthsound> i'm having a problem w/ url bar search going to my dns server's search page
[06:31] <bazhang> earthsound: you can configure the start up page in firefox preferences iirc
[06:31] <earthsound> i have my browser.search.defaulturl and keyword.URL set correctly
[06:31] <earthsound> but it still goes to the dns server's search page :|
[06:32] <earthsound> i saw the same problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417981 but no solution posted as of yet
[06:32] <mempman> so does anybody know where i can find alsa repository?
[06:32] <mempman> on their website they only have info for source code repositories..
[06:33] <earthsound> have you been to http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/
[06:34] <mempman> im checking it out right now
[06:35] <earthsound> or http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/alsa-tools/
[06:35] <mempman> earthsound: so can i just use the link you gave me and put it in my settings for Adept using "deb _link_given_"
[06:38] <mempman> ?
[06:39] <rohan> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html ---> what does this message say that the others didn't ? it just says that kde4 will be released, with the option of having kde3 or kde4 .. wasn't that already the plan ?
[06:40] <flaccid> xt828: why didn't it work
[06:40] <rohan> http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.12.20/kubuntu-804-featuring-kde-4/ ---> this too
[06:40] <flaccid> !doesntwork | xt828
[06:40] <ubotu> xt828: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:42] <rohan> nixternal: maybe you can answer, if you are around ? :)
[06:43] <xt828> sorry flaccid, was trying to wade through the samab docs
[06:44] <flaccid> im a samba junky how can i help
[06:44] <xt828> i got to the part where i mount the windows share into a folder
[06:44] <flaccid> sweet
[06:44] <xt828> and got errors that file_mode and dir_mode weren't expressed in octal, and that it couldn't find the target server
[06:45] <flaccid> how are you trying to mount it
[06:45] <xt828> exactly as it says in the wiki
[06:45] <flaccid> which is
[06:45] <flaccid> fstab and then mount the share point?
[06:46] <xt828> no fstab that i can see
[06:46] <flaccid> can you be specific otherwise i can't help you
[06:46] <flaccid> !samba
[06:46] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:46]  * flaccid goes to look
[06:47] <xt828> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide is the link i followed
[06:47] <flaccid> use the link above ubotu advised
[06:48] <flaccid> the comprehensive guide is more for ubuntu samba server and samba admins, not mounting a windows smb share
[06:48] <xt828> oh, okay
[06:48] <xt828> i did have one question regarding the mounting part:
[06:48] <flaccid> still, i need an error or unexpected behaviour otherwise i need telepathy which is not available yet
[06:49] <xt828> when i give the location of the share, i'm specifying it as it is shared in windows, right?
[06:49] <flaccid> well no
[06:49] <flaccid> you use //server
[06:49] <flaccid> server will need to be resolvable by dns generally
[06:49] <flaccid> i mean //server/share
[06:50] <flaccid> if you can't ping server it probably won't work because you would need to set up NetBT
[06:50] <xt828> but so if on the windows pc i have d:\videos shared as videos, i'd mount //winmachine/vidoes
[06:51] <flaccid> yes as long as winmachine is resolvable by dns eg. try ping winmachine on the ubuntu machine if it doesn't work you need to use IPs or setup DNS or NetBT
[06:52] <xt828> okay, thanks
[06:52] <flaccid> np
[06:54] <fildo> np
[06:55] <bazhang> fildo: do you have a question?
[06:59] <flaccid> fildo: check the user
[07:00] <xt828> erm, how do i put in the fstab entry if the shared folder has a space in the name?
[07:00] <xt828> like, the target is //ipaddress/Downloads 2
[07:01] <flaccid> thats a good question, i've never seen it done successfuly even though it is probably possible
[07:01] <flaccid> im not sure on that..
[07:01] <flaccid> i change share name to no spaces, but google or #samba might be able to advise otherwise
[07:01] <xt828> i'll probably just change the name then
[07:01] <xt828> thanks
[07:04] <flaccid> coolio
[07:04] <flaccid> i might have to work it out soon because my linksys nas uses spaces for share names
[07:05] <flaccid> eg. //server/My\ Documents doesn't work
[07:05] <fildo> yes i do have a question .. why am i here
[07:05] <flaccid> nor encapsulated in quotes
[07:05] <flaccid> lol
[07:07] <flaccid> wb fildo
[07:07] <fildo> thanx
[07:07] <flaccid> np
[07:07] <fildo> why do i keep joining kubuntu when i open konversation
[07:07] <flaccid> because its a kubuntu default
[07:08] <flaccid> goto alt+f2 / Servers and change
[07:08] <flaccid> :p
[07:08] <flaccid> also check the user sir
[07:08] <fildo> thnx flaccid, your a massive help
[07:08] <fildo> u should own this channel
[07:08] <flaccid> np lol
[07:08] <fildo> no one else helps me apart from u
[07:09] <fildo> and atleast u give me the correct info
[07:09] <flaccid> thats because you drink more than me sometimes?
[07:09] <fildo> i dont drink, im only 15
[07:09] <flaccid> oh sorry
[07:09] <fildo> nothing to be sorry about, im a newb in here
[07:09] <fildo> so its ok
[07:10] <flaccid> fair enough
[07:10] <fildo> man would it be fair to say windows vista is better then kubuntu ?
[07:11] <rohan> depends, fildo
[07:11] <rohan> on what your terms of comparison are
[07:11] <flaccid> thats a subjective question dependent on the audience
[07:11] <rohan> i like kubuntu better than xp better than vista
[07:11] <flaccid> i like to call it 'pista'
[07:12] <fildo> yeah windows users blow
[07:12] <rohan> pista is a nut :P
[07:12] <fildo> but i guess it depends on hardware and support sometimes
[07:12] <fildo> aswell
[07:12] <flaccid> this is true, but the problem there is usually vendors at the end of the day
[07:12] <fildo> winblows users are lame
[07:12] <flaccid> im on windows too atm but fildo
[07:12] <flaccid> no ableton live on linux :(
[07:13] <fildo> lol
[07:13] <fildo> well aint u gay
[07:13] <fildo> :P
[07:13] <flaccid> geeez
[07:13] <flaccid> !language | fildo
[07:13] <ubotu> fildo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:13] <xt828> ahh, sweet, i can now see windows shares
[07:13] <fildo> sorry didnt mean to fukn swear
[07:13] <flaccid> nice xt828
[07:13] <flaccid> thats cool fildo, i wish i could swear here too
[07:13] <xt828> how do i set it up to work the other way?
[07:13] <fildo> awesome xt828
[07:14] <fildo> yeah some ppl deserve to be sworn at
[07:14] <fildo> espically noobies like me
[07:14] <flaccid> (k)ubuntu likes to revert/remove the workgroup directive from smb.conf, so watch out!
[07:14] <fildo> being a pain in the ass
[07:14] <fildo> thinking that they are always right
[07:19] <xt828> flaccid, is there a walkthrough for sharing my folders with a winxp system?
[07:25] <no0tic> hi, I can't get amarok work with mysql, it can connect to it and seems to create a collection but nothing is really written.. where could be the problem?
[07:29] <kraut> moin
[07:39] <Lynoure> no0tic: #amarok channel is sometimes quite helpful. I use the sqlite backend myself, as I only have couple of thousand songs in my collection and it works fine for me in that amount
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, for less than 5-6k, sqlite is fine
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i do mysql, and should probably look into postgre
[07:42] <crazy_bus> is there any way to get a itunes feed to open in a linux rss reader?
[07:42] <earthsound> bazhang: turns out that the dns servers have wildcard info :|
[07:43] <earthsound> i switched to some 4.2.2.* servers
[07:43] <bazhang> earthsound: that fix it?
[07:43] <earthsound> yes
[07:45] <Wh1rlw1nd> Do I need a specific kernel for my Xeon 3040 on Kubuntu 7.04 x86
[07:46] <Wh1rlw1nd> this is my current kernel 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:49] <flaccid> xt828: no. what is the error?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[08:03] <flake> why isn't my cd auto-mounting, won't show up in storage device
[08:03] <flake> either
[08:06] <xt828> flaccid: i've set up a bunch of folders to be shared through the folder properties dialog, and none of them are showing up on the windows machine
[08:08] <flaccid> are they on the same workgroup
[08:10] <xt828> i think so?
[08:10] <xt828> how do i check
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> xt828, how are you accessing the linux box from windows?
[08:12] <flaccid> smb.conf
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> ip or name?
[08:12] <flaccid> you might wanna use this xt828
[08:12] <flaccid> !info smb4k | xt828
[08:12] <ubotu> xt828: smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[08:15] <xt828> actionparsnip: i don't know, i guess i'm hoping it'll show up in the network part of windows explorer like windows shares do
[08:15] <flaccid> depends on master browser of workgroup and if they are on same workgroup and when last election was done
[08:18] <xt828> last election?
[08:19] <flaccid> yeah smb election
[08:19] <flaccid> or nmb
[08:19] <flaccid> feel free to pastebin your smb.conf
[08:23] <xt828> any bits in particular?
[08:23] <flaccid> the whole thing
[08:23] <tuxwulf3> Hoe to format a FAT32 partition in kubuntu?
[08:24] <bazhang> tuxwulf3: to ext3?
[08:24] <flaccid> !info qtparted | tuxwulf3
[08:24] <ubotu> tuxwulf3: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[08:24] <flaccid> !format
[08:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:25] <xt828> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49138/
[08:27] <flaccid> xt828: what is the name of the workgroup the windows machine(s) are on?
[08:27] <xt828> MSHOME
[08:27] <xt828> when I open up smb4k, they're all listed as the one workgroup
[08:28] <xt828> oddly enough, i can access shares on the windows machines through it, but trying to access shares on my machine pops up a password dialog that won't accept my login info
[08:28] <flaccid> np
[08:28] <flaccid> 1sec
[08:29] <tuxwulf3> bazhang > No, as FAT32
[08:30] <Lynoure> If he just wants to format it,  mkfs.vfat  should do the trick.
[08:31] <bazhang> tuxwulf3: Lynoure and flaccid gave you some good advice--better listen to them :}
[08:31] <tuxwulf3> bazhang > Ok, thanks!
[08:32] <flaccid> xt828: ok try this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49139/ . failing that you will need to do a user map like this in [global] : username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
[08:36] <angelus_> hallo
[08:36] <romunov> how can i enable ssh login onto my server?
[08:37] <ardchoille> !ssh
[08:37] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:37] <flaccid> install the package openssh-server , romunov
[08:37] <xt828> do i need to restart something to get that working flaccid?
[08:38] <flaccid> do a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:38] <flaccid> you might wanna check as well with testparm
[08:39] <alvaro_> Hi
[08:39] <alvaro_> hola
[08:39] <alvaro_> Anyone can helpme?
[08:39] <flaccid> !help
[08:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:39] <flaccid> oops
[08:39] <flaccid> help with what y0
[08:39] <alvaro_> :p
[08:39] <alvaro_> i dont have sond in my laptop
[08:40] <alvaro_> i have a toshiba satellite A105
[08:40] <alvaro_> =S
[08:40] <flaccid> oopsy doodle
[08:40] <flaccid> you could try this
[08:40] <flaccid> !sound | alvaro_
[08:40] <ubotu> alvaro_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:40] <alvaro_> omg
[08:41] <Daisuke_Ido> flaccid: no dice, the a105 uses a chipset not supported by the current version of alsa.  he's going to have to compile a fresh one.
[08:41] <flaccid> oh dang my bad
[08:42] <romunov> flaccid: i've installed the openssh-server but i can't find the package openssh in the default reposits
[08:42] <flaccid> !info openssh-server | rumunov
[08:42] <ubotu> rumunov: openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[08:43] <flaccid> well its in main and you said its installed, so whats to find?
[08:43] <alvaro_> i have a mark in "Enable sound system"
[08:43] <alvaro_> so i have a problem xD
[08:47] <xt828> flaccid, you're a champ, looks like that's all working
[08:49] <alvaro_> mmm
[08:49] <flaccid> ok sweet as mate
[08:49] <alvaro_> i try whit this-> aplay -l
[08:49] <fildo> yet again, flaccid being a hero :)
[08:50] <bazhang> true
[08:50] <alvaro_> y the shell showme i have a soud car
[08:50] <fildo> mate u dont work for ubuntu @ all ?
[08:50] <fildo> maybe u should
[08:50] <flaccid> haha nope
[08:50] <bazhang> op at the very least
[08:50] <flaccid> nah
[08:50] <bazhang> should be
[08:50] <ZardoZ> Hi there, how can I harden my system up?
[08:50] <ZardoZ> I've recently been concerned with security
[08:50] <flaccid> alvaro_: pastebin the output of aplay -l . did you try to play a .wav with aplay ?
[08:51] <fildo> vote 1 for flaccid to get ops
[08:51] <fildo> haha
[08:51] <flaccid> ZardoZ: disable networking and lock the door
[08:51] <flaccid> pfft this is freenode br0
[08:51] <alvaro_> nope =S
[08:51] <ZardoZ> flaccid, heh practically
[08:51] <alvaro_> how i can do it?
[08:52] <flaccid> ZardoZ: start with iptables. kubuntu no firewall by default.
[08:52] <flaccid> !iptables | ZardoZ
[08:52] <ubotu> ZardoZ: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:52] <alvaro_> but i have kmix
[08:52] <fildo> !flaccid
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <fildo> well maybe ubotu should know something about flaccid
[08:53] <alvaro_> mm
[08:53] <llutz> ZardoZ: use only services you really need, configure them right and keep your system uptodate. no need for any "firewall" then
[08:53] <alvaro_> i can download aplay?
[08:53] <flaccid> alvaro_: try something like: file /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav; aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav
[08:53] <ZardoZ> llutz, yeah
[08:53] <fildo> how many of you guys are running kde4
[08:53] <alvaro_> ok
[08:53] <bazhang> ZardoZ: true, what they all have said--this is not windows :}
[08:53] <ZardoZ> bazhang, indeed
[08:53] <flaccid> firewall reduces packet overhead processing
[08:53] <llutz> bazhang: it's the same in win
[08:54] <ZardoZ> whats a good net proxy?
[08:54] <ZardoZ> for surfing and such
[08:54] <flaccid> !squid
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <flaccid> !info squid
[08:54] <ubotu> squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[08:54] <ZardoZ> !tinyproxy
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tinyproxy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <flaccid> !info privoxy
[08:54] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.6-3 (gutsy), package size 1249 kB, installed size 2808 kB
[08:54] <ZardoZ> !info tinyproxy
[08:55] <ubotu> tinyproxy: A lightweight, non-caching, optionally anonymizing http proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3-3 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:55] <alvaro_> uhmm, i cant =(
[08:55] <alvaro_> i try late
[08:55] <alvaro_> tnx
[08:55] <alvaro_> Bytes
[08:55] <bazhang> llutz: security is good in windows?
[08:55] <llutz> bazhang: nope, but it's not that worse anybody claims. most are user-faults
[08:56] <llutz> bazhang: it needs, like every system, careful systemconfiguration
[08:56] <bazhang> llutz: hmm. I tend to disagree with you there.
[08:57] <llutz> bazhang: feel free :)
[08:57] <ZardoZ> nifty proxy tools
[08:58] <ZardoZ> does anyone else here use squid?
[08:58] <bazhang> llutz: okay! :}
[08:59] <llutz> bazhang: it's just my experience with some dozen win-installations since win 3.0
[09:00] <bazhang> llutz: we agree to disagree--too many bad experiences with windows here :}
[09:01] <ZardoZ> llutz, im with bazhang, i just cant use a windows system seriously anymore
[09:03] <bazhang> llutz: though you do have a point if referring to xp--when set up properly--but this is waaaay offtopic--sorry :}
[09:04] <llutz> bazhang: NT was the same thingy
[09:04] <bazhang> llutz: very true
[09:06] <llutz> but to come back to topic, it makes more sense to configure your linux-system carefully, than to trust into another peace of software (aka firewall) to make you feel save
[09:06] <ZardoZ> llutz, yeah
[09:07] <llutz> i hereby don't say iptables is senseless, but not first choice (imo)
[09:13] <luca> ciaooo
[09:13] <bazhang> hi luca
[09:14] <luca> hi!
[09:14] <luca> =D
[09:14] <luca> italiani?
[09:14] <luca> nada?
[09:14] <bazhang> !it | luca
[09:14] <ubotu> luca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:14] <luca> sorry
[09:16] <bazhang> no worries!
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> has anyone got any interesting firefox tweaks?
[09:29] <Lynoure> Like? Half of the extensions are interesting :)
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> like gui tweaks, css edits etc
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> i'm tweaking to the max
[09:42] <romunov> isn't scp command suppose to show progress of file copy?
[09:43] <llutz> romunov: try scp -v
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> cp -g (?)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-460045.html?sid=fbc59e4c0cb42430ff5cbc7aaa506739
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> its gentoo but it should still apply
[09:46] <llutz> ActionParsnip: scp is something different
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> llutz, aah i see (just googled)
[09:47] <Lynoure> romunov: yes, but much of the time it's just too fast, so nothing really shows :)
[09:48] <intelikey> i have an issue caused by the fact that the ubuntu kernel demands an initramfs.img    it seems that the initramfs uses udev and i do not, that means that all the device nodes are gone; errr well misplaced into /dev/.static/dev/   what's the best way to put them back into /dev upon boot ?
[09:50] <romunov> hum, i have aproblem with mysql
[09:50] <romunov> i ssh to a server and enter mysql
[09:50] <romunov> but it won't accept any of my commands
[09:50] <romunov> for example "show databases" will just give me a new line that starts with "->"
[09:51] <romunov> what do i do?
[09:51] <llutz> show databases;
[09:52] <boguh> hi, i just installed kde4 and all i get when i start it is a grey background and a klipper icon
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> boguh, do you get a mouse cursor?
[09:55] <intelikey> ummm i'll try    cp -ua /dev/.static/dev /   in an init script.
[09:56] <boguh> ActionParsnip yes i do
[09:56] <[ifr0g]> WHy did they ever change kbluetooth now it sucks more..
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> boguh, if you right click can you run a konsole?
[09:57] <boguh> ActionParsnip i get a menu, but did not try to run a konsole
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> boguh, i'd get one up and rename you ~/.kde to ~/.kde_old then reboot
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> boguh, this will give you a fresh kde profile when you next boot
[10:00] <boguh> ActionParsnip can i put export KDEHOME=~/.kde4 to /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde ?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> boguh, not sure what that does. I'd rename anything in ~/ named kde or kde4 or whatever to _old and reboot. You can always roll it back if it does nothing
[10:01] <intelikey> hmm ok. cp -ua worked.  simple enough.
[10:02] <FSHero> Hi everyone: I'm trying to load a .odt document, but OpenOffice stalls after seemingly opening it. I can see text. I think it might be because there are pictures in it which are from the internet.
[10:03] <FSHero> Is there any way to get around this? (e.g. disable loading of pictures)
[10:03] <FSHero> Wait - I did it!
[10:04] <vasilisa> How do i cut down on how much drive space .thumbnails can use?
[10:04] <intelikey> vasilisa it's in kcontrol
[10:04] <vasilisa> k
[10:04] <S_a_m_y> hello, I was upgrading from 7.06 to 7.10 and the upgrader crashed. Now I can't open adept since he tells me the database is already opened by another instance...
[10:04] <FSHero> I went to Tools --> Options. Under the OpenOffice.org Writer section, I selected the View section, and unchecked Display Graphics and objects
[10:05] <intelikey> !adept S_a_m_y
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept s_a_m_y - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <intelikey> !adeptcrash S_a_m_y
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y, just googling
[10:05] <intelikey> well they moved it ?
[10:05] <romunov> does anyone see anything wrong with this command (i'm trying to import a DB)? mysql -u username -p database_name < dumpfile.sql
[10:05] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix S_a_m_y
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y, http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=244
[10:05] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | S_a_m_y
[10:05] <ubotu> S_a_m_y: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:06] <se7en> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:06] <vasilisa> intelikey: whats it under...?
[10:06] <intelikey> vasilisa konqueror settings or some such
[10:06] <intelikey> vasilisa you can get there through konq also
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> se7en, vk is fine. i only asks the user to confirm
[10:09] <intelikey> as far as that goes -k is fine :)
[10:09] <S_a_m_y> You rule people! I'm just worried about the stability of my system now... I've relauched the update, but I'm not anymore in the upgrade tool...
[10:09] <S_a_m_y> adept seems to be upgrading everything
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, true :)
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y, thats what it's good at :)
[10:10] <intelikey> or at least "tries to be"  :)))
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y, you can do it from console too with sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:11] <intelikey> dist-upgrade ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> is there any difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[10:11] <intelikey> ActionParsnip supposed to be. yes
[10:11] <white_eagle> is there any way to install nokia pc suite on ubuntu or other gnu/linux based operating sys?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Upgrade_vs._dist-upgrade
[10:12] <white_eagle> because I don't want to buy a bt. adapter
[10:12] <white_eagle> for connecting because I have a USB cable
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, what does it do?
[10:12] <intelikey> white_eagle wine maybe ?
[10:12] <white_eagle> no
[10:12] <white_eagle> it doesn't work with
[10:12] <white_eagle> wine, it sais that my pc isn't xp
[10:12] <white_eagle> or whatever
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, if you just want to transfer files you can just plug in the phone
[10:12] <white_eagle> I know that
[10:13] <white_eagle> but I want to sync
[10:13] <white_eagle> is it possible
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, do you mean address books etc?
[10:13] <white_eagle> yes
[10:13] <white_eagle> is there any way besides bluetooth connecting
[10:14] <intelikey> should be,   (/me stops before he starts talking through his hat again)
[10:14] <vasilisa> intelikey: I dont see anything relate dto thumbnails :/
[10:14] <white_eagle> I hate bt. connecting
[10:14] <vasilisa> *sigh* i only have 2 gigs iof free space right now
[10:14] <white_eagle> it's very slow
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, googling....
[10:14] <vasilisa> i cant have this thing eating my files
[10:14] <intelikey> vasilisa ok give me a minute and i'll start a gui and find it.
[10:14] <vasilisa> intelikey: thanks.
[10:14] <white_eagle> yeah  I'll do that
[10:15] <white_eagle> I ordered CDs from shipit 3 weeks ago, I know it is slow, but the question is, will they be delivered?
[10:15] <uakkeri> hi all! i get an error "mspluginviewer crashed... signal 11 sigsegv..." when using konqueror... any suggestions how to correct this?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39478
[10:17] <S_a_m_y> what I meant was that the upgrade tool seems to do more than just switch the repositories and upgrade the packages, but maybe it's sufficent to switch to 7.10
[10:18] <white_eagle> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/sync-linux-and-sony-w810i-cell-phone-459854/
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, might give some clues too
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, one more (looks really good) http://kmobiletools.org
[10:19] <white_eagle> but via USB
[10:20] <vasilisa> intelikey: its hidden or something :(
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ddjtHZ-CuLI
[10:22] <white_eagle> kmobiletools, bt only?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, not that ive seen. check the vid
[10:24] <white_eagle> k
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, seems to take usb too :)
[10:24] <intelikey> vasilisa or they changed kcontrol...   i know i have set that before.  now i can't find it either
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, just make sure your phone can file transfer etc and it should be ok
[10:25]  * vasilisa pouts
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> white_eagle, ive not used it so you'll have to have a play. READ EVERYTHING
[10:25] <vasilisa> intelikey: i really hate that
[10:25] <intelikey>     who knows where the adjustment for thumbnail sizes is     ?
[10:25] <intelikey> vasilisa don't give up.
[10:26] <vasilisa> u.u
[10:26] <intelikey> i'm sure it's just moved around,   like you said maybe hidding some where
[10:26] <intelikey>     who knows where the adjustment for thumbnail sizes is,  for konqueror   ?
[10:26] <vasilisa> makes no sense, who wants to have 3 gigs of their drive space commondeered to thumbnails!?
[10:27] <vasilisa> because thats how much i just deleted
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> vasilisa, where does that data hide?
[10:27] <uakkeri> konquerer + nspluginviever = crash. what to do?
[10:27] <vasilisa> ActionParsnip: .thumbnail in my home
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> vasilisa, cheers. I'll add make a cron job a bit later :)
[10:28] <vasilisa> do what
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !cron | vasilisa
[10:29] <ubotu> vasilisa: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[10:29] <uakkeri> to get rid of this frequent crash report. to get rid of nonexisting nspluginviewer
[10:29] <vasilisa> oh okay
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> vasilisa, to remove the thumbs once every hour
[10:29] <vasilisa> ActionParsnip: that sounds kind of .... backdoor. id rather simply restrict the thumb directory
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> vasilisa, will thumbs still get created when it is "full"
[10:30] <vasilisa> it just seems like duct tape to me....
[10:31] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: I have a cronjob that removes the .thumbnails right before the daily backups
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> i'm just trying to keep garbage off my eee :(
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> ive skimmed down firefox too so I get more webpage :)
[10:34] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: You running kde on the eee
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=workpcce1.png
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, yeah its pretty cool man
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> thats my work pc but the firefox config is same
[10:35] <intelikey> vasilisa ~/.thumbnail  is not a kde dir.
[10:35] <ardchoille> :)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> streamlined browsing and i reduced the height of the tabs to take up less screen
[10:35] <intelikey> ooops too late
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> i can strongly reccomend liquifox theme
[10:39] <romunov> how can i disable shit+ctrl+backspace?
[10:39] <romunov> it's really annoying, because i use the ctrl+backspace a lot, and i often accidently press shift along with it
[10:39] <romunov> which throws me out
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> romunov, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=350813
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> romunov, backup any files before editting
[10:40] <romunov> this is for ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:40] <romunov> i'm looking for shift+ctrl
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> shift ctrl + bs ?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> romunov, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430743
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> romunov, any better?
[10:42] <intelikey> ActionParsnip i don't see an answer on that page ???
[10:43] <intelikey> did i miss something ?
[10:43] <night_3> hello
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, what was the question?
 how can i disable shit+ctrl+backspace? <<<<
[10:44] <night_3> can u?
[10:45] <night_3> but why would you do that?
[10:45] <intelikey> i think the k-hotkeys can take care of that,  it's not an xorg thing, it's a kde thang
[10:45] <romunov> you need to edit a file
[10:45] <romunov> i'm still looking where its location is :>
[10:45] <night_3> it helps you in a lot of things
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, its just what others have done. I've not come across this really. seems weird
[10:46] <romunov> type "man xmodmap"
[10:46] <intelikey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=350813 <<< talks about the ctrl+alt+bs   but also says that it's not for ctrl+shift+bs
[10:47] <intelikey> and i just tested xorg,   ctrl+shift+bs   is not recognized by x   so it has to be a kde hotkey
[10:47] <intelikey> s/recognized/captured/
[10:49] <intelikey> romunov what i'm saying is that you need to look closely at those instructions   they are not for    ctrl+shift+bs   but rather for  ctrl+alt+bs   which is an xorg hotkey   and not controled by kde
[10:49] <romunov> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server" removes the shift+ctrl+bs
[10:50] <romunov> hopefully this is perminant now :>
[10:51] <romunov> i can't write (at) anymore - ever since i've installed compiz :(
[10:56] <dojankov> !away
[10:56] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[10:56] <intelikey> what i would like to know is why "startkde" resets xorg three times before loading anything
[10:57] <intelikey> maybe i'll edit startkde and find out...
[10:59] <snarkster> evening
[11:00] <intelikey> howdy
[11:00] <snarkster> so i installed the KDE4 RC2 live cd.. it wasnt to bad
[11:00] <snarkster> but Im back to 3.5.8 got tired of manualky configuring my network all the time
[11:01] <snarkster> manually evem :)
[11:05] <snarkster> night
[11:07] <intelikey>  all i can get out of khotkeys is http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5dc26176
[11:12] <angel> IDENTIFY
[11:12] <angel> hi every1
[11:13] <intelikey> angel
[11:15] <angel> hi
[11:16] <intelikey> !support
[11:16] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:18] <gdistasi> hi guyes
[11:18] <gdistasi> linux sucks
[11:18] <gdistasi> :)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> what makes you say that gdistasi?
[11:20] <basse> hi, i have kubuntu installe don external harddrive, but it just added grub into the primary harddrive without asking me anything (nice surprise) .. primary hd has windows xp on it and i'm wondering how to nicely remove the thing.
[11:21] <basse> google said about fixmbr utility, but this installation doesnt have such thing
[11:21] <basse> is getting an recovery cd of somesort the only possibility?
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here ever hosted a counter strike server on linux? [cs1.6]
[11:26] <intelikey> basse if you don't have fizmbr then maybe   fdisk /mbr    not sure   ##windows might be more help on that
[11:28] <basse> intelikey: you are right..
[11:28] <hypernewbie> hello
[11:28] <hypernewbie> does anyone know about the kubuntu gutsy 7.10 kerner parameter vga=
[11:28] <hypernewbie> kernel*
[11:29] <intelikey> basse i do agree totally that the ubuntu installer assumes far to much.
[11:30] <intelikey> hypernewbie what about it ?
[11:30] <hypernewbie> intelikey i wanna know what value is 1024x768
[11:30] <hypernewbie> intelikey 32 bit
[11:30] <hypernewbie> intelikey 24 bit and 16 bit (in case one fails)
[11:31] <intelikey> hypernewbie i can't quote you the values no.   something like 791 or 793   i don't remember
[11:31] <hypernewbie> intelikey anywhere u know to find em
[11:31] <llutz> hypernewbie: no 32bit, 24bit=792, 16bit=791
[11:31] <llutz> hypernewbie: in german, but modes are "international" http://linuxwiki.de/LutzWillek/Grub_Tricks_de
[11:32] <intelikey> hypernewbie heh the dsl boot screen   lol
[11:32] <hypernewbie> llutz ty vm
[11:32] <hypernewbie> intelikey yeah, i tried using that and ended up with 320x200 instead (i have outdated dsl version :P)
[11:32] <romunov> bah, i need to fix this, my kubuntu is getty really really slow
[11:33] <llutz> hypernewbie: an english one http://marzenada.blogspot.com/2006/08/kernel-vga-parameters.html
[11:33] <intelikey> hypernewbie heh yeah.  well, the kernel does need to match.  that's where the "kernel frame buffering" is you know... :)
[11:34]  * hypernewbie does vga-ing his kernel fingers crossed
[11:35] <basse> intelikey: yes the shitty part is that this is external hd i have grub on.. so now i can't boot the laptop without having it plugged :)
[11:36] <romunov> this is weird
[11:36] <romunov> my kde is slow as hell
[11:36] <romunov> but when i run the command "compiz --replace" everything starts working close to normal, with all the fency effects of compiz
[11:36] <sigma_kubuntu> it should be the other way around!
[11:36] <romunov> tell me about it!
[11:37] <sigma_kubuntu> has it always been that way?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> romunov, before you run compiz. how fast does glxgears go?
[11:38] <intelikey> !grub | basse one doc here that might help
[11:38] <ubotu> basse one doc here that might help: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:38] <intelikey> the last  ^
[11:39] <romunov> hum, i have no idea
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> romunov, run glxgears from cli
[11:39] <romunov> yeah, but i'm already runnig compiz
[11:39] <romunov> and the gears are running just fine
[11:39] <romunov> at 3800 fps
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> romunov, switch back
[11:40] <sigma_kubuntu> run glxgears in konsole to check
[11:40] <romunov> do you think i know how to? :D
[11:40] <romunov> compiz --unload or something? :)
[11:40] <sigma_kubuntu> kwin --replace
[11:40] <romunov> wow
[11:41] <romunov> ok, wait
[11:41] <romunov> something nice happened
[11:41] <romunov> my emerald theme just kicked in
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> wb romunov
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> romunov, ok now you are back to kwin, run glxgears
[11:43] <romunov> damn
[11:43] <sigma_kubuntu> bit offtopic but how is it possible someone to put a virus in a mp3 file?
[11:43] <romunov> shift+ctrl+bs again
[11:43] <romunov> (don't laugh)
[11:43] <romunov> 80 fps in regular kde
[11:43] <romunov> 69...
[11:43] <romunov> 55...
[11:43] <romunov> must be something wrong with my display drivers, huh?
[11:43] <sigma_kubuntu> ouch
[11:43] <romunov> ok, 100 fps.. but that's nothing compared to 2500+ in compiz
[11:43] <angel> i am a girl and i hate linux
[11:44] <sigma_kubuntu> why angel?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> sigma_kubuntu, if its a file it can have a virus
[11:44] <intelikey> angel that sounds like a personal problem.  we only give system advice.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> romunov, just make compiz load when you boot :)
[11:44] <angel> because i can never download anything from the internet
[11:45] <sigma_kubuntu> what happens when u try?
[11:45] <hypernewbie> well that didnt go too well
[11:46] <romunov> ActionParsnip: how would i do that? i've followed some tutorial and created another session and installed a /usr/bin/startgxl.sh file.. but it reports that the file is missing or somethign to that tone
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> romunov, make a bash scrip to run the compiz --replace command
[11:46] <angel> hi
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> romunov, then put it in you ~/.kde/Autorun folder
[11:46] <angel> nothing
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> romunov, or a symlink to the script
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> romunov, remember to chmod +x the file so it is executable
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> romunov, do you know how to create the script?
[11:48] <angel> manyyears ago when some krept away
[11:48] <romunov> not yt
[11:48] <romunov> yet
[11:48] <romunov> googling...
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> romunov, open your favourite text editor
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> romunov, top line: #!/bin/bash
[11:48] <angel> ?????????????????????
[11:48] <angel> is any going to answer
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> romunov, 2nd line: compiz -- replace
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> romunov, or whatever it is
[11:49] <angel> bye bye every one grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:49] <hypernewbie> ActionParsnip: sounds like another compiz victim
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> romunov, save it as runcompiz.sh
[11:49] <intelikey> !ask | angel maybe you havent asked anything
[11:49] <ubotu> angel maybe you havent asked anything: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> romunov, or something similar
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hypernewbie, how do you mean?
[11:50] <hypernewbie> ActionParsnip: nvm
[11:50] <angel> how can i download from the inernet things like screen savers
[11:50] <romunov> thanks a bunch
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> romunov, you got it?
[11:50] <hypernewbie> intelikey: hey, i get a black screen for terminal every single time i stuck a vga in
[11:50] <intelikey> !screensaver
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <romunov> just a sec
[11:50] <romunov> i'm still trying to turn off those glxgears :D
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> romunov, anything in that folder runs at login
[11:50] <angel> i have to go bye bye
[11:50] <intelikey> !theme | angel
[11:50] <ubotu> angel: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:51] <romunov> i imagine, yeah
[11:51] <romunov> ah, it's ctrl'c
[11:51] <intelikey> hypernewbie try vga=0x0f05  it's textmode but should let you watch what is happening.
[11:51] <hypernewbie> intelikey: yeah i get console fine if i omit vga
[11:52] <intelikey> hypernewbie are you a console user ?
[11:52] <intelikey> or is this only a usplash endevour
[11:52] <hypernewbie> intelikey: im more of a konsole uer than console user but id like a sane res console
[11:53] <hypernewbie> intelikey: yeah, usplash gives me a blank screen too, i turned usplash off completely
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> romunov, its that simple
[11:53] <intelikey> hypernewbie if it's not about the eyecandy of usplash  then look into svgatextmode  you can set the vga mode after you get to the console.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> romunov, you can add more if you need
[11:54] <romunov> i've added the two lines
[11:54] <romunov> i'm off to test it
[11:54] <romunov> brb
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> romunov, cool
[11:54] <romunov> shift+ctrl+bs away!
[11:54] <intelikey> hypernewbie what vidio chip are you combating ?
[11:54]  * ActionParsnip hopes he made it executable
[11:54] <soon> I need to convert a avi (divx) video to a format which Microsoft Mediaplayer will display .... any suggestions?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> soon, Windows can show AVI files. Just install DivX free codec from www.divx.com
[11:55] <soon> I'd rather not install anything on the windows box - it isnt mine
[11:55] <hypernewbie> intelikey: hmm, that cross the line of bother to get console res, so meh i'll live with 640x480 console
[11:55] <hypernewbie> intelikey: ati radeon xress 200m
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> soon, they'll need divx for dvd playback too
[11:56] <soon> sure, but its a university PC used only for lecturing :-)
[11:56] <intelikey> hypernewbie ah yeah.  some ati and kernel framebuffering are    shall we say less than friendly
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> soon, hmm
[11:57] <hypernewbie> intelikey: u mean, ati and the-new-version-of-kernel buffering are not friendly
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> soon, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-264157.html
[11:57] <hypernewbie> intelikey: i had 2.6 kernel in 1024x768
[11:57] <hypernewbie> intelikey: on this same comp
[11:57] <hypernewbie> intelikey: :D
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> soon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467179
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hi romunov
[11:58] <intelikey> hypernewbie you may be loading the wrong fb module then.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> romunov, all good?
[11:58] <soon> Thanx !
[11:58] <hypernewbie> intelikey: yeah, or that. not worth worrying about.
[11:58] <romunov> no, it's not working
[11:59] <romunov> looks like the script didn't get executed
[11:59] <romunov> how can i execute it manually to see if its working?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> romunov, did you chmod +x the file?
[11:59] <romunov> i did
[11:59] <romunov> oh, btw, i don't have Autorun directory - i do have autostart, though
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> sh <script name>
[11:59] <romunov> if that makes any difference
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> romunov, should be fine
[11:59] <intelikey> hypernewbie and no i wasn't being kernel version specific.   some ati chips and the kernel frame buffering are almost if not entirely impossable to get to play nice togather.
[12:00] <hypernewbie> intelikey: i see
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> romunov, http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Applications_autostart_in_KDE
[12:00] <usr002> hi mates
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> romunov, make sure the second line is the command to run whatever you want
[12:01] <intelikey> or blank
[12:01] <romunov> weird
[12:01] <intelikey> blank lines in scripts make them more readable.   imo
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> romunov, and that you have #!/bin/bash at the top
[12:02] <romunov> if i run the script, i can't use the keyboard and i don't see the _ (square) X thingy to close, minimize... windows
[12:02] <hypernewbie> sounds like x server crashed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> hypernewbie, looks like his windows managers are missing
[12:11] <usr002> morning mates
[12:12] <usr002> i need a good spot to get games to my machine
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> usr002, in what way
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> !wine | usr002
[12:13] <ubotu> usr002: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> !cedega | usr002
[12:13] <ubotu> usr002: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> usr002, you need to be a bit more exact
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> romunov, hows it going?
[12:16] <romunov> it turns out i can't go into kde session and run compiz --replace
[12:16] <Kohlrabi> usr002: look for applications tagged "games" in adept
[12:16] <romunov> i have to go into that custom made one (glx) and run compiz from there
[12:16] <romunov> only then it works
[12:16] <romunov> and i can't logout and log back in to do this
[12:16] <romunov> i have to reboot
[12:17] <romunov> so from what i can gather, i'm stuck with manually executing the command
[12:17] <romunov> which isn't all that bad, since i don't turn off my pc
[12:17] <romunov> and i reboot/logout only when trouble brews
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> romunov, fair point :)
[12:17] <usr002> i want games that aren't there
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> usr002, what games do you want?
[12:17] <Kohlrabi> usr002: future games? :o
[12:17] <romunov> ActionParsnip: thanks for your time!
[12:17] <usr002> quake and so games
[12:18] <usr002> fps
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> romunov, no worries man. Its all fun and games
[12:18] <Kohlrabi> usr002: what do you mean by "not there"?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> usr002, which quake?
[12:18] <usr002> arena
[12:18] <Kohlrabi> usr002: check out OpenArena or UrbanTerror or Tremulous (sp?)
[12:18] <Kohlrabi> they use the now open q3-engine
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> usr002, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[12:19] <usr002> thank u mates
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> usr002, np man
[12:20] <usr002> know i hope this runs in my 64 bit machine
[12:20] <usr002> lol
[12:20] <romunov> ok, things got funky again. i ran gimp, and everything's back at turtle speed
[12:20] <romunov> sigh
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> romunov, what spec pc you got?
[12:21] <Downix_SPARC> usr002: x86, MIPS, SPARC, Itanium, PowerPC or PA-RISC?
[12:21] <usr002> x86
[12:21] <romunov> hum, i don't recall anymore :D
[12:21] <romunov> i think its athlon 1500 or thereabout
[12:21] <romunov> with 700 something ram
[12:21] <Downix_SPARC> romunov: how is your virtual ram holding up?
[12:21] <usr002> athlon x2 64
[12:21] <romunov> i have two sticks, and they run at different speeds (i've already ordered 1gb in one stick)
[12:22] <Downix_SPARC> romunov: I didn't ask about your RAM, but your VR
[12:22] <Downix_SPARC> romunov: your swap file, in other words
[12:22] <tzd> hey guys & gals! Is it possible to run, say Kubuntu, winxp & another distribution of Linux such as red hat? IF yes, is there anything I should think of before I proceed installing?
[12:22] <Downix_SPARC> usr002: I have an x86_64 here, not impressed with it in comparison to my other 64-bit.
[12:23] <usr002> intel vs amd
[12:23] <Downix_SPARC> tzd: Yes, but why limit yourself?  I have Kubuntu, CentOS, XP, AROS and Amithlon on this machine
[12:23] <romunov> hu,m, my physical ram is 4/5 full, but swap seems to be empty
[12:23] <Downix_SPARC> usr002: no, a real 64-bit.
[12:23] <Downix_SPARC> romunov: is gimp open?
[12:23] <romunov> no
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> tzd, I'd install xp and leave the remaining space unallocated
[12:24] <tzd> Downix_SPARC:  i like the way you think ;) I just don't want to mess things up since I've got my lovely kubuntu running as it should by now and I also have winxp installed...
[12:24] <romunov> let me try to replicate this - fresh boot and run a gimp
[12:24] <romunov> brb
[12:24] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  i have xp installed and kubuntu installed... now i would like to add another linux dist.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> tzd: then add OSs but leave unallocated space until you have allyour systems you want
[12:24] <Downix_SPARC> romunov: Sounds like GIMP on loading might be maxing out RAM, causing a swap fetch, but you'd be swapping while reading the HD... is your swap drive on the same physical HD as your main drive?
[12:25] <Downix_SPARC> tzd: Have you ever tried QEMU?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> tzd: could always have a host OS and run virtual boxes
[12:26] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  i was thinking of deleting an unused ntfs partition and install a linux dist. on that one... the issue i have though is the bootloader... will it work? now im asked every time i boot up if i want to run kubuntu or winxp (using grub)
[12:26] <Downix_SPARC> usr002: it's not an AMD vs Intel thing, it's that they put a 64-bit extention onto a 32-bit extention onto a 16-bit extention of an 8-bit CPU
[12:26] <tzd> Downix_SPARC:  no, never hear of... will look into it now though :)
[12:27] <Downix_SPARC> tzd: Just takes learning it.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> tzd: you may have to configure grub but it should be ok. Just backup your data incase anyhing happens
[12:27] <tzd> Downix_SPARC:  ok ;)
[12:28] <tzd> ActionParsnip: hmm ok... but do all linux distr. use the same bootloader? and how do i make backups of the boot data?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> tzd: they use lilo or grub usually
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> tzd: i meant back up your images / music / porn / whatever
[12:29] <tzd> ActionParsnip: aha ;) Oh well they are all on NTFS partitions that i won't touch... at least not yet ;)
[12:29] <tzd> ActionParsnip: wont lilo and grub be in conflict if i use both?
[12:30] <usr002> Asus M2N-E SLI + ATHLON64 X2 4000+ 2.1GHZ + 2 gb DDR 667mhz + RADEON HD 2400PRO 256MB DDR2 PCI-E 64BIT + 250 gb hdd sata 2
[12:30] <usr002> my hw setup
[12:30] <tzd> sexy
[12:30] <usr002> will it run games smooth
[12:30] <usr002> ??
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> tzd: when you reconfig grub it will write to the boot sector
[12:30] <Kohlrabi> most probably
[12:31] <sourcemaker> Hi Guys... I habe installed a fresh new system with kubuntu... but when I setup the wlan card... the systems freezes.... any solutions?
[12:31] <Kohlrabi> and most linux games for sure :P
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> usr002, yeah but ati can be a pain
[12:31] <usr002> open gl support
[12:31] <sourcemaker> It's the gusty version...
[12:31] <Downix_SPARC> I run a machine with much lower specs and it handles my games fine
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, are you up to date with updates?
[12:32] <sourcemaker> I can't.... because the WLAN is not working...
[12:32] <sourcemaker> It's the version from a Linux Magazine...
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, can you get a wired connection
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, what wireless device do you have
[12:32] <sourcemaker> well... I can disable the wlan key... maybe than it is working
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> i your pc
[12:33] <sourcemaker> It's a cheep wlan card... but in feisty... everthink was working fine
[12:33] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  yes but isn't there a command to make it all go away in case I mess up? :D I tried installing linux 1 year ago and yes i messed up somewhere with the boot sector... i think i wrote something that defaulted the boot sector so that i could boot up again
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, what make / model is it?
[12:33] <usr002> ok
[12:33] <usr002> open quake not running
[12:33] <Downix_SPARC> tzd: Don't install the loader to the boot sector, do it to a floppy.
[12:33] <sourcemaker> I do not know... sorry
 open quake not running | ?
[12:33] <Downix_SPARC> usr002: Do you have DLX installed?
[12:34] <usr002> better get's my xserver nervous
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, is it a usb dongle or an internal device?
[12:34] <tzd> Downix_SPARC: hmm sounds complicated... how do i do that?
[12:34] <sourcemaker> But why does the complete systems freeze?Crashing the application or module is ok... but system freeze..It is a internal device
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, not sure but we'll find out
[12:35] <Kohlrabi> sourcemaker: use lspci to find it
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, can I have you lspci output please
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> !pastes | sourcemaker
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <usr002> downix
[12:35] <usr002>  DLX
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> !paste | sourcemaker
[12:35] <ubotu> sourcemaker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:36] <sourcemaker> I try the WLAN without encryption... maybe I can installed the updates...
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, if you get me what wireless pci you have their may be an issue with it under linux
[12:41] <tzd> i've got another issue with Firefox themes. I'm having a black theme but there are like a white stripe between the title bar and the menu bar.  Theer's also a white space on the left and right side of the menubar. According to theme printscreens it is supposed to be black as well... I've tried with a few different black themes
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> tzd, redownload it
[12:44] <romunov> ActionParsnip: the strangest thing happened - when i start my custom session, evereything works fine and dandy
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> tzd: got a screenshot of what you have?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> romunov, sweet :)
[12:45] <romunov> i wish i knew what i did "right"
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> romunov, yeah i hate that too
[12:45] <romunov> perhaps the session remembered its last state and reloaded itself
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> romunov, retrace steps in your head
[12:45] <XxValetexX> hello people
[12:46] <romunov> i think i'll just enjoy the effects from now on
[12:46] <romunov> i have a lot of stuff to do
[12:46] <romunov> this was a major off course thing for me today :)
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> romunov, fair point :)
[12:46] <romunov> thanks again for your help
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> np man
[12:46] <XxValetexX> ro oh let me guess compiz issues? -.-
[12:46] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i've tried redownloading = no go. I can definitely get a printscreen. should i send it to you via dcc?
[12:46] <romunov> XxValetexX: you bet
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> XxValetexX, sorted :)
[12:46] <romunov> yeah, "sorted"... somehow
[12:46] <XxValetexX> I gave up on compiz =P
[12:46] <romunov> perhaps someone "up there" loves me
[12:47] <romunov> well, perhaps we can try again
[12:47] <romunov> perhaps later this weekend
[12:47] <romunov> i have some stuff to do right now (i'm setting up a page)
[12:47] <romunov> and then i'm going to my friends house
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> i'll see how drunk i am
[12:47] <romunov> i just got dumped, i need to kill the sadness with a lot of booze
[12:47] <XxValetexX> did you guys ever had any luck with AWN in KDE? ;-p
[12:48] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i've tried redownloading = no go. I can definitely get a printscreen. should i send it to you via dcc?
[12:49] <wmsu> hello every body
[12:50] <S_a_m_y> hi, i've upgraded to gutsy and my sound card is not recognized anymore. It's listend in lspci though...
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> tzd: just use imageshack
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !nosound
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nosound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <romunov> XxValetexX: i haven't used that particular thing on kde...
[12:50] <romunov> sorry
[12:50] <Rodge> Hello every body i wannabe a friend to all of here...
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y,https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/17807
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> XxValetexX, I use Kdocker
[12:51]  * Daemon-- is away (Going, Going, Gone, BNC On)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> S_a_m_y, http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1_____ENUK248&q=no+sound+after+upgrade+to+gutsy&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[12:55] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  sorry, had to learn myself imageshack :D Pretty neat site ;)
[12:55] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  http://img141.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img141/8484/screen2ae5.png
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> its sweet
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> tzd: so whats up with it. Looks sweeeet
[12:57] <romunov> well isn't this fine and dandy, my server isn't working anymore
[12:57] <romunov> grrr
[12:59] <tzd> ActionParsnip:  hmm have u looked left to the "File" and to the right of the loading symbol? if you zoom in you can see it's like a white space there
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> i can see what you mean
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> maybe it part of the theme. Go check the preview where you downloaded from
[13:02] <romunov> hum, evereything's moving really slowly again
[13:03] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i did and on there it's all black and sexy... im wondering if it has something to do with compiz fusion?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> tzd: got a link?
[13:06] <sourcemaker_> the wlan interface it's working... without protection.... it is a realteak ... updates are downloading
[13:06] <tzd> ActionParsnip: not yet, i'll get it :)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker, the updates should help
[13:08] <tzd> ActionParsnip: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6111 (see all preview images)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> tzd: if you set your windows colour to black does it go?
[13:10] <tzd> ActionParsnip: do i do that in emerald with a theme or in compiz?
[13:10] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i tried with an all black theme in emerald but that didn't help
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> tzd: its your window colour not just the top bar
[13:12] <tzd> ActionParsnip: ah alright... hmm how do i change that? i've only used linux for a few days ;)
[13:13] <al-_-Gir> LOL
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> got to display properties
[13:14] <tzd> there :)
[13:14] <sigma_> hey guys isn't the 2nd beta of hardy due out today?
[13:15] <sigma_> oh has anyone downloaded amarok 1.4.8? whats so new in it?
[13:19] <raeg> hi, ich habe ein arges problem mit compiz fusion und will es wieder ausstellen - aber wie?
[13:19] <raeg> Wie werde ich das wieder los?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !de | raeg
[13:20] <ubotu> raeg: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:28] <bazhang> sigma_: 2nd alpha, but yeah
[13:30] <sigma_> bazhang: is it out?
[13:30] <sigma_> if it is, where about is it? because theres nothing @ kubuntu.org
[13:30] <bazhang> sigma_: I heard that it was
[13:31] <sigma_> any idea where its been hidden? lol
[13:34] <bazhang> sigma_: I will check just a moment
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> is there any speech recognition software to run apps much like the custom Xandros in the EEE PC
[13:36] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: are u using kubuntu on teh EEE PC?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, I will be yes
[13:38] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: well let us know how it runs, im thinking of getting one but im scared it won't work properly with kubuntu (speed wise)
[13:38] <tzd> ooh the eee pc... i want one of those cute babies! Still hasn't been released over here ;P
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, a UK reseller assures me its fine and dandy :) www.efficientpc.co.uk
[13:39] <bazhang> sigma_: did not find--just the daily  build for 12/21
[13:40] <sigma_> tzd: join the club! south africa is always last on the list
[13:40] <amber_> how do i download screen savers
[13:40] <tzd> sigma_:  haha :)
[13:41] <tzd> sigma_:  isn't there an easy way for you to import it from somewhere?
[13:41] <sigma_> tzd: to think ubuntu linux actually came out of our country:) its a miracle
[13:41] <amber_> i can not work out how to
[13:41] <sigma_> tzd: not really customs is a bit of a problem and then theres the strict foreign exchange laws
[13:41] <tzd> sigma_:  neat, i didn't know that :)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> amber_, www.kde-look.org
[13:42] <sigma_> tzd: you didnt know that mark shuttleworth is a south african?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> amber_,  fire up the package manager tool. search for screensavers, install the extra ones not installed by default is one way.
[13:42] <tzd> sigma_:  it's always the customs :/
[13:42] <amber_> ??????
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, www.zonbu.com
[13:42] <amber_> bye bye bye
[13:42] <Dr_willis> !adept | amber_
[13:42] <ubotu> amber_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> amber_, go there, there are screensavers for kde
[13:42] <sigma_> amber_: yeah kde-look.org is your best bet
[13:42] <tzd> sigma_:  i barely knew that ubuntu is a linux distr.
[13:42] <Dr_willis> !find screensavers
[13:43] <sigma_> tzd: lol
[13:43] <tzd> sigma_:  i've had it for 4 days haha
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> tzd: what did you think it was
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ??
[13:43] <ubotu> Package/file screensavers does not exist in gutsy
[13:43] <Dr_willis> !find screensaver
[13:43] <ubotu> Found: kscreensaver, kscreensaver-xsavers, libxcb-screensaver0, libxcb-screensaver0-dbg, libxcb-screensaver0-dev (and 11 others)
[13:43] <amber_> NO HELP
[13:43] <tzd> ActionParsnip: well i knew it was a linux dist. but that's about it... had it installed for 2 days until i changed to kubuntu
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> amber_,http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=30&PHPSESSID=75f2704bc44bf323a8f27141832e1109
[13:44] <amber_> MERRY CHRISTMAS
[13:44] <Dr_willis> kscreensaver-xsavers-webcollage - webcollage screensaver KDE hook
[13:44] <sigma_> tzd: u also didnt like gnome? its a bit old for my liking
[13:44] <Dr_willis> Cool. not tried that screensaver yet.
[13:44] <Kohlrabi> stop behaving like a 5-year-old, please
[13:44] <sigma_> in looks that is
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, I just like how KDE is laid out and the apps that run natively
[13:44] <Dr_willis> prety,  fire up the adept package manager search for 'kscreensaver-xsavers-webcollage' and it will install it.
[13:44] <Dr_willis> theres other screensacvers in there also.
[13:45] <angel> i am confuded
[13:45] <angel> i am going
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> phew
[13:45] <Dr_willis> angel,  time to read some docs i guess
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> hopeless
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> little bit
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> "read" is one of the things he/seh obviously doesn't want
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> she*
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> plus its all s/he'll find when it googles
[13:46] <tzd> sigma_:  well to be honest, i liked gnome but it seemed that most of the sweet apps was developed for KDE so i changed (mainly because i wanted to try out kirocker ;P)
[13:47] <sigma_> tzd: dont forget amarok
[13:47] <Kohlrabi> ActionParsnip: not that easy, I expereince many people having problems with google because they can't formulate a precise search term
[13:47] <Kohlrabi> experience*
[13:48] <tzd> sigma_: : well i had amarock on gnome :) I love amarock, best thing I ever seen this decade... well the basket note pads as well then ;)
[13:48] <tzd> -c
[13:49] <sigma_> tzd: they just need to make amarok play video and dvds and it will be the perfect media player
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41435
[13:51] <tzd> sigma_:  hmm yeah, i like that idea! :) But then they should also make it a network media server so that i can stream all the lovely things
[13:51] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: no one seems to ship overseas anymore!
[13:51] <Kohlrabi> use videolan :P
[13:52] <tzd> yeah i use videolan... never fails me ;)
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, where are you?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, are you in costa rica?
[13:55] <tzd> think he's trying out that video support for amarok ;)
[13:55] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: south africa
[13:56] <sigma_> tzd: yeah i was, its only playing sound, no video
[13:57] <tzd> sigma_:  i see.... I would like something like vlc included. I'm not a big fan of having tons of different codecs on my computer
[13:57] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: is there something i must do in amarok to activate the video window?
[13:57] <sigma_> tzd: but everything runs off the xine engine
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, no idea, just googled and found it
[13:58] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: so close yet so far:)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, is this right for you http://www.e-3.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=5205
[13:59] <sigma_> oh if any one is interested the new issue of full circle magazine is out
[14:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. we have a 300+ page book out now (free) for Ubuntu! :) wheres the Kubuntu version heh..
[14:00] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[14:00] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: ok thats kinda weird, i trade with the importers of ASUS in SA and they don't have it!
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, i just googled. Q1 2008 theres a 10" screen version (I think with coreduo for better power consumption)
[14:03] <GSF1200S_> anyone know alot about compiz on kde?
[14:04] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: whats the current battery life like?
[14:04] <sigma_> GSF1200S_: whats the question?
[14:04] <GSF1200S_> dont really use compiz much, but it does this:
[14:04] <GSF1200S_> http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot19eg7.jpg
[14:04] <GSF1200S_> for some reason
[14:05] <sigma_> sorry can't visit that website
[14:05] <GSF1200S_> only once in a while, and always on the first window I open after doing compiz --replace
[14:05] <sigma_> GSF1200S_: can you not wait for kde4 with its compositing effects built in?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> whats it doing?  :) and Yes - compiz can have a lot of little quirks.
[14:06] <GSF1200S_> i wont use kde4 until its at least 4.1
[14:06] <GSF1200S_> at least on my main
[14:06] <Dr_willis> but yet you are usign compiz? :)
[14:06] <GSF1200S_> ok... allow me to clarify things
[14:07] <GSF1200S_> i use kwin with no compositing effects
[14:07] <Dr_willis> or just playing with compiz? :) its handy to turn on to show off .. then turn it off to do real work.
[14:07] <GSF1200S_> for weeks on end- once in a great while when im trying to keep myself awake, i run it
[14:08] <GSF1200S_> for some reason, it cuts the right side of the title bar off- but the buttons still register just fine (even though you cant see them)
[14:09] <GSF1200S_> I dont really care- but its been like this for months, and I figured I might as well try and solve it
[14:10] <Dr_willis> Tried any other themes?
[14:11] <Riddell> ** new Kubuntu images to test https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu
[14:11] <GSF1200S_> as in kwin themes? Nah, just using Plastic atm
[14:11] <Lacrymology> ok, I'm tired of this. I upgraded to gutsy, and my sound won't work. I want back until the new kernels are released, how do I do this?
[14:11] <Dr_willis> You can set up compiz, to use the emerald themes, the kde themes, or the gnome themes.. :)
[14:11] <sigma_> Riddell: is that the beta 2?
[14:12] <Riddell> sigma_: alpha 2 candidates
[14:12] <GSF1200S_> i have it use kwin- dont need emerald
[14:12] <Dr_willis> GSF1200S_,  try the emerald ones as a test i guess. or try other kde ones. may be a bug with taht one theme
[14:12] <sigma_> Riddell: ok will there be a feature list @ kubuntu.org shortly?
[14:13] <GSF1200S_> ill give it a shot- although it is odd that it only happens once in a while
[14:13] <Dr_willis> GSF1200S_,  Compiz is odd in many ways. :)
[14:13] <GSF1200S_> agreed
[14:13] <Riddell> sigma_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha2/Kubuntu ?
[14:13] <GSF1200S_> thats why i hardly use it
[14:15] <andreassssssssss> hello i have q problem
[14:15] <andreassssssssss> i placed my memory stick in my laptop
[14:16] <sigma_> Riddell: thanks, was looking for that
[14:16] <andreassssssssss> but how can i find its contents here in Kubuntu?
[14:16]  * GSF1200S_ is listening to Moon Baby by Godsmack (eponymous) [Amarok]
[14:16] <GSF1200S_> wow.. i didnt mean for that to go down
[14:17] <GSF1200S_>  * /media
[14:17] <GSF1200S_> thats the folder it should mount in, but i dont know much about memory sticks
[14:22] <girolamo> !italiano
[14:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:23] <Dr_willis> it also depends on the kind of stick, and some built in  media readers in laptops are sadly NOT supported yet by the linux kernel.
[14:23] <Dr_willis> in some readers only some of the slots are supported.
[14:24] <trappist> andreassssssssss: usb stick?
[14:24] <Dr_willis> you may want to try a external usb media reader thing. that you plug the stick into. those should work.
[14:24] <andreassssssssss> no
[14:24] <Dr_willis> Its just the internal laptop ones ive had issues with.
[14:24] <andreassssssssss> memory stick from my photograph
[14:24] <usr002> Hey again ,,,
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:25] <usr002> " someone whispering ... that pain in the ass again"
[14:25] <usr002> lol
[14:27] <andreassssssssss> pe mou
[14:27] <usr002> what's the best messenger app
[14:27] <usr002> kopete
[14:27] <andreassssssssss> so what should i do now?
[14:27] <usr002> crashes
[14:31] <usr002> anyone
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> usr002, define best and people will help
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> i gtg
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> peace
[14:33] <Downix> ok, back
[14:33] <usr002> ok
[14:33] <usr002> kopete crashes
[14:33] <usr002> amsn got an issue in the visualization but still works
[14:33] <bazhang> usr002: try launching it from konsole and see what the error messages
[14:33] <bazhang> are
[14:33] <usr002> k
[14:34] <usr002> i got to install it again
[14:34] <usr002> but know i'm late for work
[14:34] <gp> hi
[14:34] <usr002> i talk to u latter
[14:34] <usr002> cya
[14:34] <Downix> ok, need to try and figure out how the heck to get AROS to compile on my SPARC
[14:34] <gp> my system is broken after upgrade
[14:34] <gonzalo> some one who tell me how to install a sound drivers that i download from internet???
[14:34] <gp> my x stopped working
[14:34] <gp> man
[14:35] <gp> this latest kubuntu update is dangeros
[14:35] <gonzalo> im very newie
[14:35] <gp> how cann i revert back
[14:37] <Downix> gonzalo: You don't.  Sound drivers are part of the kernel itself, you don't "install" them for-se.  What drivers do you need?
[14:37] <Downix> gp:  what is the x error?
[14:37] <gp> there was a error commiting pakages , possiblily there was downloadinh or commit would break
[14:38] <Downix> oh fun
[14:38] <gp> Downix: where is x logs in unbutu ?
[14:38] <Downix> what error do you get while starting X?
[14:38] <Downix> gp:  /var/log is where everything is logged
[14:39] <gonzalo> downix im new in linux, yes i understent that dosent install, i have a file like zip and I dont what to do?
[14:39] <kalorin`> so digikam does a pretty good job
[14:39] <kalorin`> however, my wife is running windows
[14:40] <kalorin`> and the closest thing to digikam for windows is picasa which is a pretty good piece of software in it's own sense
[14:40] <kalorin`> anyone know how you can make the two compatible wtih regards to the meta data areas you put the tags and stuff in?
[14:40] <gp> it doest start thats
[14:40] <gp> Synaptics DeviceInit called
[14:40] <gp> SynapticsCtrl called.
[14:41] <gp> (II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
[14:41] <gp> Synaptics DeviceOn called
[14:41] <gp> (--) Synaptics Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event4
[14:41] <gp> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event4"
[14:41] <Downix> gonzalo: You don't.  What driver for which sound card, so I can better tell you the correct approach?
[14:41] <gp> (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found
[14:41] <gp> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1152x768"
[14:41] <kub^> !pastebin | gp
[14:41] <ubotu> gp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:41] <gp> (--) NVIDIA(0): No video decoder detected
[14:41] <gp> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x800+0+0"
[14:41] <gp> (--) NVIDIA(0): No video decoder detected
[14:41] <gp> Synaptics DeviceOff called
[14:41] <gp> SetClientVersion: 0 9
[14:41] <gp> SetGrabKeysState - disabled
[14:41] <gp> SetGrabKeysState - enabled
[14:41] <gp> Synaptics DeviceOff called
[14:41] <gp> hi
[14:41] <Downix> gp:  you need nvidia drivers
[14:42] <Downix> gp:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-restricted should do the trick
[14:42] <gp> i had installed nvidea drivers but update broke it
[14:44] <Downix> then reinstall
[14:44] <gp> Building dependency tree
[14:44] <gp> Reading state information... Done
[14:44] <gp> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-restricted
[14:44] <GSF1200S_> !pastebin
[14:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:45] <GSF1200S_> which video card do you have?
[14:45] <gp> Nvidia gforce 8400M
[14:46] <GSF1200S_> not sure if thats the new driver or the beta driver...
[14:46] <Downix> gp:  try this first: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[14:47] <gp> ok ran it successfully no error msg
[14:49] <gp> Downix: whats next
[14:49] <Downix> gp: one sec, looking up the exact
[14:49] <Downix> ok, I was mistaken, it's not nvidia-restricted, it's nvidia-glx
[14:50] <GSF1200S_> you sure it covers the 8400?
[14:50] <Downix> no, not sure
[14:50] <Downix> trying to find out which nvidia one covers what
[14:50] <Downix> I have nvidia-glx for mine, but it's a 6100
[14:51] <GSF1200S_> yeah, glx-new here and im on a 7600
[14:51] <gp> i am on Nvidia gforce 8400M
[14:52] <gp> i think before update i was running nvidia-glx but now on nvidia-glx-new
[14:53] <Downix> ok, glx will work
[14:53] <Downix> glx-new has some issues I'm reading
[14:53] <gp> so i will revert back to glx
[14:54] <Downix> ok!
[14:54] <Downix> *grumbles* We need another GPU vendor!
[14:54] <Downix> two is not enough!
[14:55] <gp> i will be back after the reboot;-)
[14:55] <GSF1200S_> itd be awesome if we could get some OSH
[14:55] <GSF1200S_> open source hardware
[14:55] <Lynoure> GSF1200S_: there is, already...
[14:55] <GSF1200S_> really
[14:56] <Downix> Lynoure: Nothing complete at this time.  OpenGraphics is nowhere near being even a 1988 VGA controller yet.
[14:56] <Lynoure> Downix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware#Computers_and_Computer_Components
[14:56] <Downix> GSF1200S_: I'm pondering opening up my own design ideas, but trying to sort out patent issues.
[14:57] <GSF1200S_> cool... itd be awesome to open the ideas and have everyone have access to develop it
[14:57] <Downix> Lynoure: plenty of CPU's, no GPU's in that list tho.  I have most of the tools.
[14:57] <GSF1200S_> then, simply sell them at a cost that covers cost, you know?
[14:57] <Downix> GSF1200S_: the issue I have is in patents, I based my design on an older one, and need to be sure everything is on the up and up
[14:57] <Lynoure> Downix: No, did not claim there was, just that there is open source hardware already
[14:58] <Downix> Lynoure: Plenty of it, I work with the Leon SPARC for my own projects, beautiful chip
[14:58] <Downix> was one of the core members of F-CPU for a few years
[15:00] <Downix> Lynoure: but no GPU at this time, sad to say
[15:01] <Lynoure> Downix: unfortunately I don't have the skills to fix that.
[15:02] <tzd> ActionParsnip: my FF theme syndrome was due to the KDE desktop setting... you were right ofc ;) Thanks mate!
[15:02] <romunov> is the httpd.conf (apache2) file suppose to have only one line "ServerName localhost"?
[15:03] <Downix> Lynoure: Most of what's needed is input, honestly.  People say "oh, I want a GPU" then can't actually express what they need it to do.
[15:03] <Downix> Lynoure: Example, my own (now 10 years under development) design.  It's technically complete, but design wise uninspiring.
[15:04] <Lynoure> romunov: pastebin your config, if you have trouble with it, makes it easier to troubleshoot
[15:05] <romunov> well that's it
[15:05] <romunov> there's nothing to pastebin
[15:05] <romunov> ServerName localhost is everything there is in that file
[15:08] <romunov> i've searched my /etc/apache2 directory for my IP and changed all 3 files that i found to "localhost"
[15:08] <romunov> ip -> localhost
[15:09] <romunov> when i go to localhost and click on a directory, it still wants to go to my ip
[15:09] <romunov> i've restarted the server inbetween
[15:09] <romunov> perhaps my router is causing trouble
[15:10] <Dr_willis> well if its going to localhost, 127.0.0.1 - Then it shouldent even be going out to the router.
[15:10] <Dr_willis> but im not an apache expert.
[15:10] <benjamin> hi, what I have to to if kde is not starting automaticly. I have to start it manualy with "startx"
[15:10] <Dr_willis> benjamin,  sounds like kdm or gdm is not starting. you could try a 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' for a start.
[15:10] <Dr_willis> then try a 'sudo kdm'
[15:10] <Lynoure> romunov: sounds more like your hosts file having something wronig with it.
[15:11] <Lynoure> s/wronig/wrong
[15:11] <benjamin> Dr_willis: oky thanks I try
[15:11] <Dr_willis> if kdm works that way. well it would seem that the kdm service is not getting loaded at boot.
[15:11] <romunov> Lynoure: what do you suggest i do?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all  : )
[15:12] <Lynoure> romunov: I would not suggest anything without seeing the  /etc/hosts  or/and apache configs...
[15:12] <Lynoure> I don't like working blind when there is no reason for it :)
[15:13] <romunov> lemme see if there's anything in the /etc/hosts
[15:14] <romunov> hum, i don't have "/etc/hosts"
[15:14] <romunov> oops, i do
[15:14] <romunov> it's not a directory but a file
[15:14] <romunov> <- newb
[15:15] <Lynoure> romunov: it's normally a file.  Try  less /etc/hosts
[15:15] <romunov> i find kate or nano quite handy
[15:15] <romunov> this is the /etc/hosts
[15:15] <romunov> http://pastebin.com/d5fa92aff
[15:15] <Lynoure> romunov: whichever you prefer. :)
[15:16] <romunov> i use nano for "simple" edits and kate for root changes
[15:17] <Lynoure> romunov: no edit needed, looked fine
[15:18] <erick> hi
[15:18] <romunov> lemme see if there's anything in the apache2.conf
[15:19] <romunov> hum, nothing special
[15:25] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[15:26] <Dr_willis> so when you go to http://localhost/  - it changes to http://Your.ip.address  ?
[15:27] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that having 127.0.0.1 for both Localhost and your machinename is proper. but im, behind a router here.. so my machine ip is a local lan ip.
[15:27] <NetSKaVeN> anyone with Kubuntu Gutsy 64 bits?
[15:27] <NetSKaVeN> I can't locate java plugin
[15:27] <GSF1200S_> blackdown java
[15:28] <NetSKaVeN> I need java 6
[15:29] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a way to Nuke/wipe a usb harddrive?
[15:29] <llutz> shadowhywind: shred
[15:29] <romunov> Dr_willis: when i go to localhost i can see the directory structure, but when i click on the directory (my page), it wants to go to my IP
[15:30] <shadowhywind> llutz will that work on the entire harddrive or just on files?
[15:30] <llutz> shadowhywind: on entire disks too
[15:30] <Dr_willis> romunov,  Hmm.. well its working here if i go to http://localhost/mythweb/   it seems to be using 127.0.0.1
[15:30] <BluesKaj> shadowhywind, delete the files then reformat , some drives will reformat to nyfs then back to fat32 or 16
[15:30] <llutz> shadowhywind: i just did it a few days ago :)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ntfs
[15:32] <shadowhywind> ok thanks i will try that out. I wanted to use the Boot and Nuke CD but it don't work with usb harddrives
[15:32] <laurentiu> I' need help with this   "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."   I'm beginer
[15:32] <llutz> shadowhywind: that's what i did (with a bit of paranoia):  shred -n6 -z -v /dev/sdb
[15:32] <Dr_willis> laurentiu,  did you try '
[15:32] <llutz> shadowhywind: that gives you time for a lot of coffee, gardening, etc
[15:32] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get update' like it suggested?
[15:33] <laurentiu> try
[15:35] <laurentiu> E: Type 'http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/free/libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.debhttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/free/libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb' is not known on line 80 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:35] <laurentiu> ?
[15:35] <llutz> laurentiu: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[15:35] <romunov> hot dang
[15:35] <romunov> ctrl+shift+bs again
[15:35] <llutz> !pastebin | laurentiu
[15:35] <ubotu> laurentiu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:36] <shadowhywind> llutz do you know what pattern it is using to wipe?
[15:37] <llutz> shadowhywind:  -n6 means 6 times with random-numbers, -z once with zero
[15:37] <llutz> shadowhywind: man shred for further info
[15:37] <shadowhywind> thanks
[15:39] <Dr_willis> laurentiu,  looke like  line 80 in /etc/apt/sources.list is incorrect
[15:41] <romunov> ok, under route i get 192.168.2.0, link-local and default destinations
[15:41] <romunov> gateway *, * and routerIP, respectively
[15:41] <Lynoure> looks normal.
[15:42] <Lynoure> romunov: The symptom was that when you type http://localhost you get to http://yourpublicip instead of localhost? It does sound like apache binds to the public ip...
[15:44] <romunov> solved!
[15:45] <Lynoure> romunov: do tell? :)
[15:45] <romunov> i had to fiddle with wordpress database to set the homepage from http://IP/niphargus to http://localhost/niphargus
[15:45] <romunov> looks like wordpress (installed in the directory that i was trying to reach) was overriding the apache settings
[15:46] <romunov> and since i couldn't enter wordpress i had to use the back door and go straight to the db
[15:46] <Lynoure> lesson of the story might be: always start with a simplest possible url. :)
[15:49] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys would any of you know where the default kubuntu kicker panel bg is located?
[15:50] <adz21c> Paddy_EIRE: /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png
[15:51] <Paddy_EIRE> adz21c, thx man :)
[15:51] <adz21c> np :-)
[15:53] <vit__> quienes son
[15:53] <ccs> qloq
[15:55] <bazhang> vit_: do you have a question?
[15:55] <bazhang> ccs: excuse me?
[15:55] <KarlV> sasasa
[15:56] <bazhang> KarlV: this is an english channel; would you like a different language channel?
[15:56] <KarlV> bazhang Sorry. Misstyping.
[15:57] <bazhang> no worries KarlV
[15:57] <KarlV> You rock! :)
[15:58] <bazhang> KarlV: thanks, but offtopic :} you have a kubuntu question?
[16:02] <KarlV> No, not for the moment. Just dropping by :) But thanks.
[16:03] <bazhang> cheers!
[16:03] <shadowhywind> thanks llutz I now have shred working, I may have went a little crazy and did the normal default 25 passes.. hehe
[16:04] <llutz> shadowhywind: how big is the HDD? on my 15 to 30GB drives that took ages :(
[16:04] <shadowhywind> 160 hehe, I am acraully starting to rethink that idea.. and knock it down to 8.. hehe
[16:05] <bazhang> haha
[16:05] <llutz> shadowhywind: 160? have a nice xmas, shredding will still be running :)
[16:05] <shadowhywind> hehe
[16:05] <shadowhywind> brb
[16:07] <shadowhywind> ok now knocked down to 8, hehe At least i can let it run on another comp and not have to worry bout it for a day or so
[16:07] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im running kubuntu on my Dell D620 laptop. There is a video out on it, but its not working. How can I get this video out to work?
[16:10] <ostlund> having problem with latest kopete in kubuntu 7.10. Just about 1/3 of my contacts are showing up, but in gaim/webmsn all contacts are showing up. What can be the problem?
[16:11] <Ryiel> !irda
[16:11] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[16:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ostlund, offline contacts are set to "not shown" by default
[16:11] <ostlund> i know
[16:12] <ostlund> i have enable to show offline contacts as well, but still just 1/3
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> ostlund, then I have no idea.... unless you have them split into some odd group/s that kopete can not see??
[16:12] <ostlund> strange issue beacuse it has allways worked before, but yesterday i reinstalld kubuntu and after that i get this erris
[16:13] <ostlund> nope, have used the same for a long time and kopete has allways worked.
[16:13] <Paddy_EIRE> what error?
[16:14] <ostlund> the error that just some contacts are showing up
[16:14] <Paddy_EIRE> and....?
[16:14] <sat_> i've dual boot - xp & kubuntu. xp has some virusus. can i just reinstall xp without disturbing kubuntu?
[16:14] <cloneyin> how can ie enable remote desktop on my machine?
[16:14] <Paddy_EIRE> !vnc
[16:14] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[16:15]  * fora voltou.
[16:15] <adz21c> ostlund: have you tried deleting the kopete config files and launching it from scratch? it could have just got a bit confused or something
[16:15] <angel> what do you meen by stop behaving like a 5 year old
[16:15] <Paddy_EIRE> oh dear
[16:15] <ostlund> adz21c: i should test that
[16:15] <cloneyin> but my boc would not allow me to connect through vnc
[16:15] <cloneyin> box*
[16:15] <Paddy_EIRE> cloneyin, you do not need to use vnc exclusively afaik
[16:16] <sat_>  i've dual boot - xp & kubuntu. xp has some virusus. can i just reinstall xp without disturbing kubuntu?
[16:16] <arielle> hello????
[16:16] <bazhang> hi arielle
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !screen | cloneyin
[16:16] <cloneyin> how come i cannot remote desktop to my box
[16:16] <adz21c> sat_ yes
[16:16] <ubotu> cloneyin: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[16:16] <cloneyin> how do i configure to allow
[16:16] <arielle> hi that is not my real name
[16:16] <sat_> adz21c: thank you.
[16:16] <trappist> cloneyin: remote desktop is a windows protocol.  there are other ways to do it for linux, like VNC
[16:16] <adz21c> sat_: just reinstall window and then use the kubuntu CD to restore the grub or lilo bootloader
[16:16] <arielle> ????????????????????????????????????/
[16:17] <adz21c> sat_: as windows will replace it removing ur access to kubuntu
[16:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !offtopic | arielle
[16:17] <ubotu> arielle: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:17] <arielle> sorry i never knew
[16:18] <BluesKaj> phoenixz, which kubuntu version ?
[16:18] <arielle> how do i go on to a googlemail messenger
[16:18] <Minataku> sat_: You could also try to devirus XP from Kubuntu
[16:18] <Minataku> !av
[16:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:18] <Minataku> !antivirus
[16:18] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[16:18] <sat_> adz21c: ok. thanks
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> you mean google talk arielle
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[16:18] <arielle> yep
[16:18] <sat_> Minataku: how can i do that.
[16:19] <Minataku> Well, it takes skill
[16:19] <Paddy_EIRE> arielle, http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=57557
[16:19] <Minataku> To know what's needed and what isn't, and what will cause Windows to stop working if cleaned by deletion
[16:19] <ostlund> adz21c: i feel stupid that i not have tried that ;) , it solved it!
[16:19] <Minataku> If you don't have that level of knowledge/skill, then just reinstall
[16:19] <Minataku> BUT
[16:19] <Minataku> !mbr
[16:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:19] <adz21c> ostlund: good stuff
[16:19] <ostlund> adz21c: but still dont understand why
[16:19] <Minataku> Note that first link there
[16:19] <Paddy_EIRE> arielle, install kopete using apt-get
[16:19] <Minataku> You'll need it after reinstalling Windows
[16:20] <ostlund> adz21c: anyway, thanks
[16:20] <Minataku> Because Windows is a dick and just rewrites the MBR without asking
[16:20] <adz21c> ostlund: i don't know, i sometimes get issues with contacts lingering about in kopete, i delete them, log into offical client, come back to kopete and they are back
[16:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Minataku, yeah thats never nice..
[16:20]  * Minataku nods
[16:20] <sat_> Minataku: thanks for the links.
[16:20] <Minataku> Good think I remembered that one
[16:20] <Minataku> sat_: No problem
[16:21] <Minataku> sat_: Good luck, not that you should particularly need it
[16:21] <Minataku> :3
[16:21] <phoenixz> BluesKaj, Im running the latest Kubuntu, 7.10 .. Is it possible to use the external video?
[16:21] <sat_> Ubuntu rocks.
[16:21] <Ryiel> !infrared
[16:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:21] <Ryiel> damn...
[16:21] <Minataku> !irda
[16:21] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[16:21] <Minataku> You had that one earlier
[16:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Minataku, this is by far the best dual booting guide for new users http://apcmag.com/node/5162/
[16:21] <Ryiel> thanks mate, tried that but that led me nowhere
[16:21] <Minataku> Ah.
[16:21] <Minataku> What's the issue?
[16:21] <bazhang> Paddy_EIRE: that does rock
[16:22] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[16:22] <Minataku> Heh
[16:22] <phoenixz> !bluetooth
[16:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[16:22] <Ryiel> Minataku: i've got an usb irda dongle, i wanna get it to work
[16:22] <BluesKaj> phoenixz, pls explain "exactly" wht you are trying to do ?
[16:22] <Minataku> Ah
[16:22] <Minataku> That might be a problem, Ryiel
[16:22] <Minataku> Ryiel: Those USB dongles tend to be quite proprietary
[16:22] <Minataku> Especially wireless ones
[16:22] <Ryiel> :(
[16:23] <Minataku> If it didn't work when you plugged it in, it may never work.
[16:23] <Ryiel> oh, it should work as plug and play?
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Ryiel, whats the brand
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> chipset even
[16:23] <Ryiel> good question...
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[16:23] <phoenixz> BluesKaj, well, very simple.. I have a Dell latitude D620 laptop. Like most other laptops, it has an external VGA connector where I can connect another display. With the Fn F8 key combination, I should be able to switch between these displays. Problem is, none of that works, and I have not found any method of configuration in KDE for this..
[16:23] <arielle> didn't work
[16:24] <Minataku> USB ones, yes
[16:24] <Ryiel> usd-irda y-160 thats all...
[16:24] <Minataku> If there's a driver for it, it should autoprobe the module
[16:24] <arielle> hello arielle
[16:24] <Minataku> Check that it is indeed working
[16:24] <arielle> here
[16:24] <Minataku> If it made a device node for it, then it's ready to go
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !dual display
[16:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual display - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !dual head
[16:24] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:25] <BluesKaj> phoenixz, got that ?
[16:25] <Ryiel> Minataku: shouldnt there popup something that new device or something?
[16:25] <Ryiel> how can i test it?
[16:25] <phoenixz> !Xinerama
[16:25] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[16:25] <phoenixz> BluesKaj, gottit yeah, thanks!
[16:25] <Minataku> Check if it made a device entry for it
[16:25] <Ryiel> kinfocenter says nothing
[16:25] <Minataku> Open up Konsole and type "dmesg | tail"
[16:25] <Ryiel> it doesnt see it
[16:25] <Minataku> Oh
[16:25] <Minataku> Okay, then it's not working
[16:26] <Minataku> lol
[16:26] <Minataku> I do things without a GUI, so I forget that there are GUI ways to do things
[16:26] <bazhang> haha
[16:26] <Ryiel> Minataku: dmesg tail sees it
[16:26] <LjL> arielle: yes?
[16:26] <Ryiel> let me pastebin it
[16:26] <Minataku> Ryiel: Okay
[16:27] <BluesKaj> phoenixz, i hope you find your answer , if not there are ppl here that are quite knowledgable about your task other than me :)
[16:27] <Ryiel> Minataku: http://rafb.net/p/SzjAfX15.html
[16:27] <Minataku> Oh, okay, it's all working, supposedly
[16:27] <Minataku> It should be accessible via /dev/irda0
[16:28] <Ryiel> oh...
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Minataku=purist!
[16:28] <Minataku> You'll likely need access to r/w to the device node
[16:28] <Minataku> BluesKaj: The pure way was the one that worked
[16:28] <Minataku> So there
[16:28] <Minataku> lol
[16:28] <Ryiel> what if i wanna send pictures to my mobile or something? :D I followed that guide on the site but lead nowhere
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Minataku, :)
[16:29] <Minataku> I don't know anymore past this point, sorry
[16:29] <Minataku> Ryiel: I've never used IRDA
[16:29] <Minataku> lol
[16:29] <Ryiel> Minataku: http://rafb.net/p/DAxh8l81.html
[16:29] <Minataku> Sorry
[16:29] <Minataku> X3
[16:29] <Minataku> Hm
[16:30] <Minataku> Why is it trying to probe that? It would seem that it's already probed.
[16:30] <Minataku> IRDA is already running
[16:30] <Minataku> Likely it was all put into place when you first plugged the thing in
[16:31] <Ryiel> oh
[16:31] <Ryiel> should i remove those entries then?
[16:31] <Minataku> I... don't know
[16:31] <Minataku> I can't read... Finnish?
[16:32] <Minataku> I don't even know what language that is
[16:32] <Minataku> lol
[16:32] <Minataku> Or what command you typed to get that
[16:32] <BluesKaj> looks hungarian
[16:32] <Ryiel> it is :D
[16:32] <Minataku> lol
[16:32] <Ryiel> Minataku: i followed that guide
[16:32] <Ryiel> what ubotu gave me
[16:32] <Minataku> Heh
[16:33] <romunov> those two languages are "pretty similar"
[16:33] <Ryiel> should i undo it?
[16:33] <Jeroi> lo
[16:33] <Minataku> Does it end in actually using the IRDA device?
[16:33] <Minataku> No, the guide should be good
[16:33] <Minataku> !irda
[16:33] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[16:33] <Jeroi> Change attribute of ftp directory from
[16:33] <Jeroi> drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Jun 13 18:42 docs
[16:33] <Jeroi> To
[16:33] <Jeroi> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 13 18:42 docs
[16:33] <Ryiel> it fails at step 12
[16:33] <Jeroi> how do <i do that?
[16:33] <Jeroi> ftpo folder is: /home/jeroi/ftp
[16:34] <BluesKaj> there are reports of a hungarian-finnish common root language , group went northe=west the southeast :)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> other
[16:34] <Jeroi> whta kind of chmod command is needed to do?
[16:34] <Minataku> Okay, undo that guide
[16:34] <Minataku> Because it's for some incredibly ass-old version of Ubuntu
[16:35] <Minataku> ubotu: !irda is way too old to be of any use
[16:35] <Minataku> I've forwarded an edit request to the ops channel
[16:35] <Minataku> That stupid guide shouldn't even be linked to anymore
[16:36] <Ryiel> hehe
[16:36] <Ryiel> at least this mess had some use for the ubuntu community
[16:36] <Ryiel> :D
[16:37] <Minataku> lol
[16:37] <Minataku> I've been in here several months now, and that's the first time I've seen anyone asking for IRDA
[16:37] <Minataku> XD
[16:38] <Ryiel> ok, so its recognized by kubuntu :D
[16:38] <Ryiel> any idea how to transfer files or something with it?
[16:38] <Minataku> No clue.
[16:38] <Minataku> Try Google, perhaps
[16:38] <Minataku> lol
[16:38] <Ryiel> yeah nobody uses irda nowdays, i just didnt want to give my bluetooth to my sis
[16:38] <Ryiel> :D
[16:38] <Minataku> Or hang around
[16:38] <Ryiel> i kept that for myself
[16:38] <Minataku> Maybe SOMEONE knows
[16:39] <Minataku> Ryiel: Sorry I couldn't help that much
[16:39] <Minataku> XD
[16:40] <Ryiel> no problem mate
[16:52] <LjL> Minataku: irda is too old, or perhaps the guide is too old? i don't quite see how irda would be too old. i'm not aware of any protocol superseding it.
[16:57] <TimS> How can I list network devices from CLI?
[16:57] <tsdgeos> ifconfig
[16:58] <TimS> Thanks
[16:59] <KkValetekK> hello
[17:02] <admin___> Hola
[17:03] <admin___> +buenos dias, disculpen que arcvho tengo que instalar para el Adobe Flash Player????TAR.GZ,  .RPM,
[17:04] <jpatrick> !es | admin___
[17:04] <ubotu> admin___: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:04] <admin___> gracias
[17:36] <r0tu47> Hey, I have installed kubuntu a couple times now, my menu always ends up with the  "Entries in K-Menu:" Then the menu item... is there a way to remove all the "Entries in K-Menu:" in the menu?
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> r0tu47: are you sharing a /home with another distro?
[17:38] <r0tu47> no
[17:38] <RogueJediX> Hey. From a CLI, how do I find out the host machine's processor architecture?
[17:38] <r0tu47> this is a new installation, happens on all installations I have done.. even on my laptop
[17:39] <llutz> RogueJediX:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> RogueJediX: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[17:39] <r0tu47> A friend of mine said it happened to him as well
[17:39] <cloneyin_> ls
[17:39] <cloneyin_> hello
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> r0tu47: odd, well, you can do it the hard way and manually edit the Kmenu
[17:39] <r0tu47> That's what I thought, just was hoping for an easy way out
[17:39] <RogueJediX> Thanks llutz, r0tu47
[17:40] <r0tu47> RogueJediX: ?
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> hey cloneyin_
[17:42] <RogueJediX> r0tu47: Yikes, sorry. I meant to thank nosrednaekim
[17:42] <RogueJediX> So...sorry and thanks, nosrednaekim :P
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> RogueJediX: :D
[17:43] <r0tu47> RogueJediX: No prob... lol
[17:51] <cloneyin_> hello people
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> hello cloneyin_
[17:53] <cloneyin_> how do i enable remote desktop using ssh from remote location
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> !VNC
[17:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[17:54] <cloneyin_> hi all
[17:55] <cloneyin_> ubotu, i can use vnc but need to setup the remote computer
[17:56] <cloneyin_> nosrednaekim, is there a way to enable remote desktop from remote location
[17:57] <cloneyin_> I can ssh in my box @ home but need to enable remote desktop through shh
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin_: if ssh is installed, yes
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> cloneyin_: i'm sure you can do it then... those directions probably tell you how.
[18:07] <cloneyin_> hello
[18:07] <cloneyin_> anyone out there?
[18:09] <r0tu47> hi
[18:13] <miglo> hallo! gibt es die kernel option "noquiet" als gegenstück zu "quiet" ???
[18:14] <llutz> miglo: lösche "quiet" aus den optionen
[18:14] <sourcemaker_> My WLAN Card is not working... after starting the interface... I have a kernel panic... illegal interrupt... without WEP protection... everthing is working fine...
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker_: what type of chipset in your WLAN card..
[18:14] <sourcemaker_> is a realtek
[18:15] <miglo> ja, dass muß ich dann jedoch nach jedem update machen, daher möchte ich es als default wert vorgeben
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> !de
[18:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:15] <llutz> miglo: editiere menu.conf
[18:15] <sourcemaker_> nosrednaekim: with feisty... it was working fine
[18:15] <llutz> !de | miglo
[18:15] <ubotu> miglo: please see above
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker_: I've heard about alot of problems with realteks and gutsy...may be worth your while to go back to fiesty
[18:15] <miglo> oh, I am sorry
[18:15] <miglo> it's the english channel
[18:16] <sourcemaker_> nosrednaekim: bad idea
[18:16] <llutz> miglo: change: # defoptions=quiet splash  into # defoptions= splash
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker_: well, look around on the forums, i'm sure someone else has had the problem
[18:17] <miglo> ok, I will try this - thanks a lot, llutz  :-)
[18:18] <miglo> hm, there is no "defoptions", so I will add it
[18:19] <llutz> miglo: it should be there,
[18:19] <llutz> miglo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:19] <miglo> indeed, you are right
[18:19]  * nosrednaekim feels sorry for anyone editing etc files that doesn't know english
[18:19] <MaTiAz> :D
[18:20] <miglo> but it's only set to ...
[18:20] <miglo> # defoptions=vga=0x0317
[18:20]  * llutz feels sorry for anyone using linux that doesn't know at least a bit english
[18:25] <romunov> meeeh, compiz/emerald are weird
[18:25] <romunov> they run "smooth" up till one point
[18:25] <romunov> if i resize a window, they slow down to a point when i start throwing chairs through the window
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> romunov: Steve Ballmer should hire you.
[18:26] <romunov> nosrednaekim: who that?
[18:27] <romunov> a wrestler or something? :)
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> romunov: CEO of Microsoft
[18:28] <romunov> ah
[18:28] <romunov> i was pretty close :)
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> heh
[18:30] <cloneyin_> remote desktop to my pc @ home, connection refused, how can I configure this?
[18:30] <cloneyin_> error 111
[18:31] <icewaterman> why is there no java support for firefox on amd64?
[18:32] <icewaterman> java6 itself is working fine.
[18:35] <Arielle> IDENTFY<password>
[18:36] <Arielle> go to www.iamarealmermaid.piczo.com
[18:42] <cloneyin_> hello
[18:43] <notizblock> hi
[18:44] <notizblock> is there a possibility to use more signatures in kmail
[18:44] <notizblock> ?
[18:45] <Arielle> ?
[18:46] <Arielle> in the villAGE
[18:46] <Pete__> in the village?
[18:46] <Arielle> yep
[18:46] <Arielle> i am a gal
[18:47] <thomas> good for you
[18:47] <Arielle> is jamie lynn spears pregnant
[18:48] <Arielle> why do people leave when i type a message
[18:48] <Pete__> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iamarealmermaid.piczo.com%2F%3Fcr%3D5%26rfm%3Dy&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
[18:49] <Arielle> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iamarealmermaid.piczo.com%2F%3Fcr%3D5%26rfm%3Dy&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
[18:49] <Arielle> bye bye everyone
[18:52] <jac0b> I installed compiz but decided I didn't want it so I unstalled it and now I am back to using kde but my problem is when I ALT+TAB I don't get my window chooser how do I get that back
[18:52] <jac0b> nm I found the problem
[18:57] <ardchoille> Ho wow, when you select more than one file in krusader and then hover them with the mouse, it shows previews of all the files you have selected.
[19:07] <cloneyin_> ardchoille, how to setup rote desktop
[19:07] <cloneyin_> remote*
[19:07] <tc> h
[19:09] <ardchoille> cloneyin_: I use Internet > krdc for that
[19:10] <jussi01> !vnc | cloneyin_
[19:10] <ubotu> cloneyin_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[19:11] <cloneyin_> ls
[19:11] <cloneyin_> krdc
[19:11] <cloneyin_> thanks
[19:11] <helge_> I hav all of my mp3s on a separate disk and they are now "owned" by root and in the group of root, How can I change them back to being owned by helge and group helge?
[19:11] <helge_> I tried sudo konqueror but no avail
[19:11] <llutz> helge_: sudo chown -R user:group /mp3-collection
[19:14] <cloneyin_> ardchoille, when i use krdc, I  cannot click connect button
[19:14] <ardchoille> cloneyin_: Did you enter an address into the Remote desktop textbox?
[19:16] <ardchoille> cloneyin_: You need to enter rdp:/255.255.255.255   (where 255.255.255.255 is the ip of the machine you wnat to access)
[19:16] <cloneyin_> thanks
[19:17] <ardchoille> cloneyin_: Or click on the "Examples" link just above the Help button
[19:18] <helge_> I tried the above but it says I am not permitted... (I did sudo)
[19:21] <ardchoille> helge_: Is your user an admin user?
[19:22] <Pete__> It could be this second disk is mounted read only.
[19:23] <helge_> ahem, I don't now. I am the only user. Fresh Feisty install. But I might have to do a restart cause I can't enter the file and disk system as an admin now
[19:23] <helge_> I'll be back
[19:25] <sourcemaker_> why is it possible for a wlan module to kill the kernel?
[19:29] <biovore> sourcemaker_: a module is part of the kernel.. works in kernel space.. thus is can kill the kernel..
[19:29] <biovore> userspace can't
[19:34] <helge_> the disk is writeable. When i try to change ownership on the folders by using sudo konquror it says that I don't have the authority to do so.
[19:34] <genii> sudo <> kdesu
[19:34] <helge_> kdesu is better?
[19:35] <genii> !kdesu
[19:35] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:36] <frost> how can one install kubuntu onto a pre-formatted /?
[19:38] <frost> (I have a /backups/ directory and nothing else on the drive. I'd like to preserve the /backups/ directory. thanks!)
[19:44] <helge_> Ok, I restartet again and used kdesu konqueror, looked slightly better but when I tried to change ownership from root to helge it still says I dont hav the permission necessary
[19:45] <ardchoille> helge_: open a terminal and do: grep adm /etc/group
[19:46] <ardchoille> See if helge is in there
[19:46] <helge_> adm:x:4:helge
[19:46] <helge_> lpadmin:x:113:helge
[19:46] <helge_> admin:x:118:helge
[19:47] <ardchoille> helge_: Ok, now type "mount" (without quotes) and see how that second disk is mounted
[19:47] <helge_> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[19:47] <helge_> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:47] <helge_> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:47] <helge_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[19:47] <helge_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[19:48] <helge_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[19:48] <helge_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[19:48] <helge_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[19:48] <helge_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[19:48] <helge_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[19:48] <helge_> /dev/hdd1 on /home/helge/ATA300 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:48] <helge_> the ATA300 is the troubled one
[19:48] <ardchoille> !paste | helge_
[19:48] <ubotu> helge_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:49] <romunov> oh man, my kubuntu has gone from terribly slow to i wanna kill myself
[19:49] <romunov> installing compiz wasn't the best idea so far
[19:49] <romunov> any ideas how can i revert back to "default" settings?
[19:49] <romunov> i've already uninstalled compiz.. i think
[19:49] <ardchoille> romunov: You want to stop using compiz?
[19:49] <skarface> reverse whatever guide you followed? ;)
[19:49] <romunov> yes, it's clogging up my pc
[19:50] <ardchoille> romunov: Are you using compiz right now?
[19:50] <romunov> i've uninstalled it
[19:51] <romunov> it's even hard for me to type this damn message
[19:51] <romunov> everything laggs like there's no tomorrow
[19:51] <ardchoille> romunov: kwin --replace
[19:51] <romunov> i don't wanna open glxgears to see the refresh rate
[19:51] <romunov> i'm not running compiz - i've already uninstalled it, as i've stated
[19:52] <romunov> so there's no "default" option?
[19:54] <helge_> Sorry if you wrote me something just now it seems that I was out of the chat for a minute or so
[19:59] <snarkster> hi how do i configure knetworkmanager to see my ndiswrapper wifi card?
[20:01] <zidgel> I am new to linux and just loaded kubuntu.  I am trying to share a folder to the network, but it tells me that I need to load SMB & NFS.  How do I go about doing that?
[20:01] <snarkster> apt-ger install samba*
[20:01] <lg188> hello
[20:01] <snarkster> sorry apt-get install samba*
[20:02] <snarkster> that will grab all the smb packages you need
[20:02] <zidgel> Doesn't samba just load the SMB only?
[20:02] <mschiff> why do current kde4 packages not set KDEHOME to .kde4 anymore?
[20:03] <mschiff> zidgel: samba is mostly for windows shares, nfs mostly for unix shares
[20:04] <snarkster> man this networkmanager thing is very confusing
[20:04] <zidgel> Thanks for explaining that mschiff
[20:04] <sigma_> whats the easiest way to install kde4 if you need to download the packages off a windows machine via internet explorer?
[20:05] <snarkster> just download the packages to a cd or zip drive type of thing and then dpkg -i them
[20:05] <zidgel> I just ran samba and it came back with 0 newly installed, 0 upgraded.  Is this alright?
[20:05] <sigma_> snarkster: where can i get a list of packages? possibly one that i can right click and say "save target as" to download
[20:06] <devinus> snarkster: did you try to enable the restricted drivers in the restricted drivers manager?
[20:06] <devinus> snarkster: also, try going to /etc/network/interfaces and commenting out everything, and restarting knetworkmanager
[20:09] <mschiff> devinus: I would not comment aut lo entries..
[20:09] <devinus> right. don't comment the lo interface
[20:10] <mschiff> The bad thing is that if you use the "configure manually" thing from knetworkamanager and use knetconf pops up
[20:10] <mschiff> to use a static adress
[20:11] <mschiff> you cannot revert this in the gui
[20:11] <mschiff> only chance is to edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the entries there...
[20:23] <ax1s> Hi .. I'm having problem sending/receiving webcam with kopete/gutsy, I've read to install libjasper but still no luck
[20:23] <ax1s> can anyone help?
[20:24] <ax1s> ports are forwarded. tcp/udp
[20:28] <adz21c> ax1s: what ya mean having problems? as in its not connecting? webcams not loading?
[20:28] <ax1s> exactly
[20:28] <ax1s> getting the requests..
[20:29] <adz21c> have u tried running kopete in console see if that tells u anything
[20:30] <ax1s> adz21c: no, thx.. will try  and see what it says.. it's not a common problem then tho eh.. weird, pretty stock install here
[20:31] <adz21c> ax1s: well i needed to add a line of code so it could use my cam, but after that connecting etc worked like a charm
[20:31] <ax1s> yah.. its picking up my cam.... that is not the prob
[20:32] <ax1s> it just won't let me send or receive..
[20:32] <snarkster> thank you for the information about the interfaces file..
[20:32] <ax1s> QObject::connect: No such slot MSNContact::slotWebcamSend()
[20:33] <adz21c> thats .... weird
[20:33] <ax1s> :/
[20:33] <snarkster> knetworkmanager is working but it doesnt detect my wifi automatically
[20:37] <ax1s> OH, I remember on the install.. the updater broke on QT3
[20:37] <ax1s> i had to go through console to find that out.. .. i think i need to upgrade or revert qt
[20:40] <ax1s> any ideas on how to do that ? :)
[20:40] <snarkster> apt-get install qt3
[20:41] <snarkster> anyone know anything about superkaramba
[20:42] <snarkster> i wanted to try out the yahoo avatar thing but there arent any instructions
[20:42] <ax1s> not how to get my downloads to stick and settings to save :/
[20:42] <utente> buonasera
[20:43] <ax1s> snarkster: .. there are a bunch of qt3 packages..
[20:45] <ax1s> fuckbeans
[20:45] <ax1s> how has nobody had the updater crash on them
[20:45] <ax1s> brand new disc/iso/install
[20:50] <ax1s> nobody here has installed gutsy, and tried to update via adept, and had it crash
[20:51] <ax1s> this is happening on two different machines
[20:51] <ax1s> like come on
[20:53] <utente_> buonasera
[20:54] <rwarner__> axls
[20:54] <rwarner__> yes it happened to me
[20:54] <ax1s> did you figure out what it is?
[20:54] <rwarner> it appears it's a problem with there update mechanism
[20:55] <rwarner> i had to reinstall :( twice before i figured it out
[20:55] <ax1s> do you select "yes or no"
[20:55] <rwarner> just do not upgrade
[20:55] <ax1s> to that package it gets stuck on
[20:55] <ax1s> hahah wow
[20:55] <rwarner> i say no
[20:55] <ax1s> after updating it, it is crashing hard
[20:55] <ax1s> randomly
[20:56] <rwarner> because it says you can update even if you are most up to date
[20:56] <rwarner> maybe we are having different issues
[20:56] <ax1s> well i went in through console to see where it was breaking
[20:56] <ax1s> and when i updated it was stuck waiting for user input on a question
[20:56] <rwarner> ah, you probably know more then i then
[20:56] <rwarner> ah .. i ususaly say yes to those
[20:57] <ax1s> same, accept default answer
[20:57] <ax1s> which is what i did.. :/
[20:57] <rwarner> k
[20:57] <ax1s> i can't believe this isn't more widely known/documented
[20:57] <rwarner> think it;s a quirk of this setup system
[20:57] <rwarner> neevr had this problem with SuSE
[20:58] <Jeroi> does vsftpd work in gutsy?
[20:58] <Jeroi> I cant make it work
[20:58] <ax1s> yeah :/ .. these hiccups all the time is making me want to figure out gentoo
[20:58] <florianr> Hello!
[20:58] <Jeroi> using amd64 architechture
[20:58] <rwarner> jeroi ... no idea
[20:59] <florianr> I am looking fo a tool to make a audio rekording for a cd ...
[20:59] <Jeroi> chmod uog-w /home/jeroi/ftp/
[20:59] <Jeroi> did that
[20:59] <florianr> What could you sugest?
[20:59] <Jeroi> now firefox does indeed show anonymour account
[20:59] <ax1s> florianr: audacity
[20:59] <jussi01> ax1s: can you quickly summarise your issue ?
[20:59] <rwarner> later all
[20:59] <ax1s> jussi01: after installing gutsy, fresh, adept crashes
[20:59] <jussi01> florianr: or ardour
[20:59] <Jeroi> but if I try to open folder or view picture firefox says error 505 file cant be openend
[20:59] <ax1s> jussi01: i go in through console, and its stuck waiting for user input on some package
[21:00] <jussi01> ax1s: ax1s which pkg?
[21:00] <ax1s> jussi01: something to do with QT .. and now kopete wont let me send/receive webcam.. and certain things crash
[21:00] <ax1s> jussi01: i wish i knew exactly, is there an update log?
[21:01] <florianr> jussi01: , ax1s Danke
[21:01] <florianr> werde ich mir beides ansehen ...
[21:01] <jussi01> ax1s: yes but im nnot on kubuntu atm
[21:01] <jussi01> !de
[21:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:01] <jussi01> florianr:
[21:03] <ax1s> errors such as.. "QObject::connect: No such slot MSNContact::slotWebcamSend()"
[21:03] <jussi01> ax1s: curious ...
[21:03] <florianr> jussi01: ax1s: Hmmm sorry, that is is the problem if talking in de and en channels at the same time ...... Thanks for your help!
[21:04] <ax1s> florianr: np
[21:04] <ax1s> florianr: hope it works well for you :)
[21:04] <jussi01> ax1s: im on a handheld so a little slow here
[21:04] <jussi01> sorry
[21:04] <ax1s> jussi01: ha, cool.. no worries
[21:05] <jussi01> ;)
[21:06] <ax1s> jussi01:  i'm re installing on a laptop right now..   i just had my desktop setup all nicely before realizing the issue..
[21:06] <ax1s> i am going to pay a bit more attention this time around [=
[21:06] <jussi01> ax1s: the logs should be avlble through adept menus somewhere iirc
[21:07] <jussi01> ax1s: which arch?
[21:07] <ax1s> 32
[21:07] <jussi01> hmm i have no such issue
[21:08] <mempman> hey guys, how can i check the version of my alsa base ???
[21:08] <jussi01> ax1s: don't forget to file a bug.
[21:08] <crimsun> alsa "base"?
[21:08] <crimsun> what do you mean by that?
[21:08] <jussi01> !bug
[21:09] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[21:09] <crimsun> do you mean driver (kernelspace)?  utils (userspace)?  libs (userspace)?  tools (userspace)?
[21:09] <mempman> uh..the base of alsa?
[21:09] <mempman> yeah the driver i guess
[21:09] <crimsun> cat /proc/asound/version
[21:09] <mempman> sweet
[21:09] <mempman> let me give that a shot
[21:10] <ax1s> jussi01: I am recreating the bug now.. also checking out how to file it properly.. thx
[21:10] <crimsun> note that is not "alsa-base"
[21:10] <crimsun> "alsa-base" is a package and has nothing to do with the driver itself, which may or may not be included with linux-image
[21:10] <mempman> hmm
[21:10] <mempman> what does this package consist of?
[21:10] <jussi01> mempman: perhaps if you tell us what you want it for then we wil know what you need?
[21:11] <jussi01> ax1s: great
[21:11] <crimsun> mempman: blacklist files and the old initscript.
[21:11] <mempman> okay, well since i installed kubuntu, i have had no sound, its was very strange because
[21:11] <crimsun> (the "alsa-base" package does not have anything to do with your sound driver.)
[21:11] <jussi01> mempman: which card?
[21:12] <mempman> the sound card of my laptop was detected, but i just didn't have any output, this was due to a known bug with nvidia chipset mcp51, so i read on a post somewhere that i should upgrade my alsa-base to version 1.0.15 from 1.0.14
[21:12] <crimsun> mempman: then you're looking at the wrong package.  You need to install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r) if you're using gutsy.
[21:12] <OrionFyre> mempman, when i boot of hte live cd i get no sound until i plug in headphones, then there is sound wether they remain plugged or not... give it a shot.
[21:12] <mempman> i went into Adept and uninstalled alsa-base 1.0.14, and i downloaded and installed alsa-base 1.0.15 and now i have sound..
[21:13] <crimsun> there is no such thing as alsa-base 1.0.15, mempman.
[21:13] <coverer> hallo
[21:13] <mempman> guys, the exact name of what i installed last night is "linux-sound-base_1.0.15-3_all.deb"
[21:13] <crimsun> mempman: that's a Debian package generated from the alsa-driver source.
[21:14] <mempman> i installed the pacakge above after uninstalling alsa-base via adept, and now i have sound
[21:14] <crimsun> that alone will not magically make things work.
[21:14] <mempman> well, i haven't changed anything else at all and now i have sound
[21:14] <mempman> ?? im clueless
[21:14] <crimsun> look at the version of your sound driver.  `cat /proc/asound/version`
[21:15] <SpookyET> hi
[21:15] <mempman> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14 (Thu May 31 09:03:25 2007 UTC).
[21:15] <SpookyET>  I need an easy script that enables/disables Internet Connection Sharing. Messing with IPTables is complicated and Firestarter does not work
[21:15] <crimsun> mempman: now look at your mixer output.
[21:15] <crimsun> linux-sound-base and alsa-base are packages that do not affect your sound driver _at all_.
[21:15] <jussi01> !iptables
[21:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:16] <mempman> crimsun: everything looks the same
[21:16] <crimsun> mempman: I doubt it's the same.
[21:16] <jussi01> SpookyET: try guarddog
[21:16] <mempman> guys, i haven't changed anything other than uninstalled alsa-base and installed linux-sound-base_1.0.15-3_all.deb
[21:17] <mempman> crimsun: what exactly is the alsa-base package?
[21:17] <girolamo> !italiano
[21:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:17] <crimsun> mempman: it really does not at all matter which version of linux-sound-base or alsa-base you have installed.
[21:17] <OrionFyre> neither do i when all i do is plug in and unplug my headphones to get sound :-)
[21:17] <SpookyET> jussi01: I just need 2 scripts. One to enable connectino sharing. one to disable
[21:17] <crimsun> mempman: it provides a blacklist and the old (deprecated) alsa initscript.
[21:18] <mempman> but according to many posts that i have read, people have posted the contrary.
[21:18] <mempman> let me get some get some links
[21:18] <MGalaxy> Hello, I wanna plug 2 ADSL ethernet modems to 1 hub (switch), but only one of them works, any solution?
[21:18] <mempman> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69076
[21:18] <coverer> тест
[21:18] <fannagoganna> you need a router to allocate local IP addresses
[21:19] <mempman> crimsun: i guess ther is a bug with my specfic chipset
[21:19] <crimsun> mempman: that post does not reference "linux-sound-base" at all.
[21:19] <mempman> NVidia http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69076
[21:20] <crimsun> mempman: I've just read that entire thread.  Nothing references the package you mention.
[21:20] <mempman> crimsun: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=868053
[21:20] <crimsun> mempman: nothing there references "linux-sound-base" either.
[21:21] <MGalaxy> fannagoganna: u addressed me?
[21:21] <fannagoganna> yes
[21:21] <fannagoganna> you need a router to allocate and route traffic
[21:22] <fannagoganna> a hub just provides a physical path for the wired traffic
[21:22] <mempman> crimsun: so i guess the following package "linux-sound-base_1.0.15-3_all.deb" must not be alsa-base
[21:23] <crimsun> mempman: ... of course it's not.  Look at the name of the file.  :)
[21:24] <mempman> crimsun: so what exactly is in that package, i would guess that its alsa-base, alsa-driver and a lot more stuff
[21:24] <mempman> hence "all"
[21:24] <crimsun> mempman: no, it's a list of modules.  Either it's the blacklist for OSS/Free or for ALSA.
[21:25] <crimsun> mempman: the alsa-base package will set a symlink to the proper blacklist depending on what you configure.  In *ubuntu, we blacklist OSS/Free by default and just use ALSA.
[21:26] <crimsun> mempman: seriously, I've maintained these packages for *ubuntu for upwards of a couple years.
[21:26] <MGalaxy> fannagoganna: but my modems allocate their own IPs and they have different IPs (192.168.1.7 & 192.168.1.254), I think they have own router in theirs, dont they?
[21:26] <mempman> crimsun: so what excatly did i do when i installed that package?
[21:26] <crimsun> mempman: nothing related to what you think you did, apparently :)
[21:27] <mempman> yeah, but sound is working for me now
[21:27] <mempman> crimsun: honestly, i have not changed anything else at all!!!!
[21:27] <crimsun> mempman: _you_ didn't have to change anything.  I'm positive a program adjusted a mixer element.
[21:27] <mempman> that is very interesting........
[21:28] <crimsun> seriously, nothing in the linux-sound-base package touches anything related to your active sound driver.
[21:28] <crimsun> if you don't believe me, see the output from `dpkg -L linux-sound-base` and read each file.
[21:28] <mempman> when you say "linux-sound-base" and "alsa-base" , are you refering to the same thing?
[21:28] <crimsun> no, I am not.
[21:29] <mempman> what is the difference?
[21:29] <crimsun> linux-sound-base and alsa-base are completely different packages.
[21:29] <crimsun> (the only thing in common is that they are both generated from the alsa-driver source package.)
[21:29]  * jussi01 hugs crimsun 
[21:30] <mempman> what do you mean generated from same source package?
[21:30] <MGalaxy> fannagoganna: but my modems allocate their own IPs and they have different IPs (192.168.1.7 & 192.168.1.254), I think they have own router in theirs, dont they?
[21:30] <crimsun> mempman: your *buntu installation is comprised of various binary packages [e.g., linux-sound-base, linux-image-$(uname -r), ...]
[21:30] <fannagoganna> i don't think so
[21:31] <mempman> yes
[21:31] <fannagoganna> u need special hardware to allocate IP addresses. How did these modems get their own IP's?
[21:31] <fannagoganna> the IP address is usually 192.168.0.1
[21:31] <crimsun> mempman: each of those binary packages has a source package (for the majority, just source code, not compiled form - for compiled languages)
[21:32] <crimsun> mempman: if you look at `apt-cache showsrc alsa-driver|grep ^Bin`, you'll note that the alsa-driver source package generates several binary packages
[21:33] <mempman> crimsun: the above command didn't turn anything up
[21:33] <crimsun> mempman: do you have an active deb-src line for main?
[21:33] <crimsun> crimsun@Box:~$ apt-cache showsrc alsa-driver|grep ^Bin
[21:33] <crimsun> Binary: alsa-base, alsa-source, linux-sound-base
[21:34] <mempman> it didn't do anything for me once again
[21:34] <mempman> no output whatsoever
[21:34] <MGalaxy> fannagoganna: my LAN IP is 192.168.1.1 and the default gate way is 192.168.1.254 which is ADSL Modem IP, but when I want to connect to another ADSL Modem from another PC in the network, It fails
[21:34] <crimsun> mempman: did you check /etc/apt/sources.list for an active deb-src line for main?
[21:34] <mempman> crimsun, i don't know exactly what you mean by active deb-src
[21:35] <mempman> wait
[21:35] <mempman> sorry
[21:35] <mempman> yes i didn
[21:35] <mempman> *yes i did
[21:35] <crimsun> mempman: `grep ^deb-src /etc/apt/sources.list`
[21:36] <mempman> adnan@adnanslaptop:/proc/asound$ grep ^deb-src /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:36] <mempman> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[21:37] <crimsun> mempman: so the answer to my question is "no."
[21:37] <crimsun> mempman: that's the straightforward explanation for why you don't have any output for that apt-cache command
[21:38] <crimsun> mempman: we can bypass your local configuration and look at how it's done on the Ubuntu build infrastructure.  Take a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/1.0.14-1ubuntu2/+build/403321
[21:39] <crimsun> mempman: in the top left pane, look at "Resulting binaries"
[21:39] <mempman> crimsun:
[21:39] <mempman> alsa-base 1.0.14-1ubuntu2
[21:39] <mempman> alsa-source 1.0.14-1ubuntu2
[21:39] <mempman> linux-sound-base 1.0.14-1ubuntu2
[21:39] <crimsun> mempman: yes.  You can drill down further to see precisely what files are in each binary package.
[21:40] <alfonso> join azzurra
[21:41] <mempman> crimsun: is there a simple howto i can read and figure out exactly what is going on
[21:41] <crimsun> mempman: what do you mean by "what is going on"?
[21:41] <mempman> cause i swear, i changed nothing but installed the linx-base-sound pacakage
[21:42] <mempman> i haven't installed any program that may change my mixer settings
[21:42] <mempman> and now i have sound
[21:42] <crimsun> mempman: your installing that package is a red herring, plain and simple.
[21:42] <crimsun> mempman: further, you don't need to have installed _anything_.  Any audio program is capable of fiddling with your mixer settings.
[21:43] <mempman> crimsun: this is a post that discusses the bug with my audio chipset
[21:43] <mempman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/77024
[21:46] <mempman> crimsun: im back
[21:46] <mempman> crimsun: did you get a chance to check that post out?
[21:46] <crimsun> mempman: yes, I know that bug.  I'm "Daniel T Chen".
[21:47] <mschiff> does anybody know a way to tell kde apps "network online" via dbus?
[21:47] <mempman> crimsun: hahaha
[21:47] <mempman> small world
[21:47] <emilsedgh> mschiff: dbus?
[21:47] <emilsedgh> mschiff: kde 3.x uses DCOP not DBUS, use the command dcop to start using it
[21:48] <mschiff> emilsedgh: I know there is dbus-send.. but how can i do it with that?
[21:48] <mempman> well, i think that post goes on to discuss that they had to upgrade their alsa-base to 1.0.14rc
[21:48] <mschiff> emilsedgh: I thin networkmanager is using dbus....
[21:48] <mempman> *1.0.14rcdl
[21:48] <mempman> *1.0.14rcl
[21:48] <emilsedgh> mschiff: i dont know about that
[21:49] <crimsun> mempman: 1.0.14 as shipped is newer than 1.0.14rc1.
[21:49] <crimsun> mempman: 1.0.14rc1 was the first release candidate for what became 1.0.14 final.
[21:50] <Kernel> hmm ive got a very large file(30 gigs) and i went to rm -rf the file...when i ran rm -rf it was done in like 1 second.....that much data takes longer to delete....so i did a ls and it still using all 30 gigs of space
[21:50] <Kernel> using reiserfs
[21:50] <Kernel> but the file is no longer there
[21:51] <alfonso> Xdcc
[21:51] <Kernel> i ran locate file and its no where on my system
[21:51] <Kernel> what about xdcc?
[21:51] <crimsun> Kernel: so commit the transaction.  `sync`
[21:51] <Kernel> crimsun: hmmm not sure i follow..how do i sync?
[21:52] <Kernel> and is there risk of data loss?(other then the file i actualy want gone)
[21:52] <crimsun> you type sync in the Konsole/Terminal/...
[21:52] <mempman> crimsun: thank for all your help.....i have some figuring out to do
[21:52] <mempman> crimsun: i will talk to you later (hopefully)...seasons greetings
[21:53] <Kernel> crimsun: i ran sync and i still dont have the space
[21:54] <ax1s> libqt3-mt ??
[21:54] <Kernel> this is weird...and a pain in the butt
[21:54] <crimsun> Kernel: does it persist after a reboot?
[21:54] <Kernel> crimsun: havent tried rebooting yet.....
[21:54] <Kernel> seems so windows'ish
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> ATI 7.12 drivers are better with KDE4...
[21:57] <alfonso> alll
[22:01] <Kernel> ugh. i guess ill try a reboot. :-|
[22:04] <cloneyin_> reboot, on linux
[22:04] <cloneyin_> ?
[22:04] <cloneyin_> very odd
[22:06] <yuriy> !aptfix
[22:06] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:06]  * devinus excitedly awaits the 8.04 KDE4 cd...............
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> devinus: there is already one....
[22:06]  * devinus also excitedly awaits Firefox 3.
[22:07]  * devinus also excitedly awaits MySQL 6.
[22:07] <devinus> nosrednaekim: where?
[22:07] <guba> и
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> devinus: hmm maybe its a 7.10 cd
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[22:07] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[22:07] <devinus> oh right
[22:07] <devinus> the RC2 live cd
[22:07] <devinus> it's broken bad tho
[22:07] <devinus> no way i'm putting that on my laptop
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> oh..
[22:08] <david__> I just installe kubuntu 7.10 after wiping out ubuntu 7.10. The grub menu still says ubuntu. grub-update didn't change it.
[22:08] <mneisen> Hello, can anybody guess the solution to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646827 ? Thanks in advance!
[22:08] <mneisen> david__: That's normal.
[22:09] <david__> eh? Shouldn't is say kubuntu?
[22:09] <david__> mneisen &
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> david__: no... it uses the ubuntu kernel package
[22:09] <mneisen> david__: You may want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect your preferences.
[22:09] <david__> mneisen, I know how to do that but never realised from days gone by that kubuntu said ubuntu on grub. thx
[22:10] <mneisen> david__: you are welcome.
[22:10] <david__> mneisen - btw I'm glad to be back on k. I gave gnome a good year. don't like it;) cya
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> mneisen: can you boot one of the older kernels?
[22:11] <romunov> hi. i had to reinstall kubuntu, and during the installation, i unplugged the backup drive - to prevent any hickups i might cause. anyways, i've installed kubuntu and i can't see the drive... do i have to mount it?
[22:11] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: No, because the new kernel package has replaces the old one.
[22:11] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: it was only a minor change, so no new grub entry was generated.
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> romunov: look for it in systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> mneisen: that stinks... does recovery mode work?
[22:12] <mneisen> no, stops at the same point. only takes a little longer ... :-)
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> whats the exact message?
[22:13] <crookshanks> what are the 'proposed' and 'updates' repositories for?
[22:15] <crookshanks> ah, found the wiki page that explains
[22:16] <romunov> nosrednaekim: i guess i have to reboot now that i've enabled it at startup?
[22:16] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: I would have to reboot and write it down.
[22:16] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: Could take a little while.
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> romunov: yeah...
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> mneisen: you in windows then?
[22:16] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: WIl you be here in 5-10 mins.
[22:16] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: No, I use the live cd.
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> mneisen: mmm probably not.... someone else should though
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> mneisen: try mounting your disk and reading /var/log/syslog
[22:17] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks.
[22:17] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: already did that. there is nothing in there, all messages are from before the reboot.
[22:17] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: Problem is, the boot hangs after about 4 secs.
[22:18] <mneisen> nosrednaekim: I think nothing is mounted that early, so nothing can get written to syslog.
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[22:18] <mneisen> Well, i will get the exact message.
[22:18] <mneisen> Bye.
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> k
[22:18] <mneisen> plus, thanks for the help so far.
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> mmhm
[22:21] <sigma_kubuntu> how do i check if dma is enabled on my dvd writers?
[22:21] <romunov> does anyone have that start logo of a penguin urinating on windows logo?
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: smart_ctl should tell you
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> you'll probably need smartmon-tools
[22:23] <sigma_kubuntu> isnt there anything i can run in konsole 2check?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> sudo smart_ctl <device name>
[22:30] <angelus_> hallo
[22:37] <bogdomania> hello ..
[22:37] <bogdomania> 1 question
[22:37] <kaskado__>   /msg SiLENT-021 XDCC SEND #1
[22:38] <bogdomania> im trying to install lg3d on my 7.04..but it says that gdm package is not installed...
[22:38] <bogdomania> what can i do?
[22:41] <ere4si> bogdomania, you can install gdm in kubuntu
[22:42] <bogdomania> how?
[22:42] <bogdomania> :)
[22:42] <bogdomania> im trying to get an .deb pack
[22:42] <bogdomania> but i cant find anywhere
[22:42] <bogdomania> one
[22:44] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:45] <bogdomania> ere4si but that 3d desktop works on kubuntu?
[22:45] <sigma_> my k3b was working perfectly a few days ago, now its doing the weirdest things, first it started burning a dvd rw, got to 11% and failed, i tried with another disc and the exact same thing happened
[22:45] <bogdomania> if everything is installed proprely?
[22:45] <sigma_> please help
[22:46] <ere4si> bogdomania, I don't know that package - only that you can use gdm in kubuntu - sorry :)
[22:46] <bogdomania> :) ok thanks ere4si
[22:46] <ere4si> k
[22:51] <cloneyin_> I want to bench my i/o bandwidth on my Sata drive, any utilities I can use?
[22:54] <wolf0129> i currently have kde as my main desktop but want to run kubuntu next to it
[22:54] <wolf0129> how do i do it
[22:54] <cloneyin_> can you do that?
[22:56] <wolf0129> i also have a friend who is running kubuntu but can not get online with it
[22:56] <wolf0129> i have applied the IP address
[22:57] <wolf0129> but it does not recognize the connection
[22:57] <wolf0129> what else can i try
[22:57] <ere4si> wolf0129, is it wireless?
[22:57] <wolf0129> no wired
[22:59] <kub^> wolf0129: can you ping the default gateway?
[22:59] <cloneyin_> quit
[22:59] <cloneyin_> exit
[22:59] <wolf0129> i dont know how to try
[22:59]  * ardchoille hands cloneyin_  a "/"
[23:00] <mith__> hello all! :)
[23:00] <kub^> wolf0129: whats the address of the network gateway ?
[23:00] <wolf0129> hcpd i think
[23:01] <kub^> wolf0129: it will be something like 192.168.0.254 or 192.168.0.1
[23:02] <wolf0129> the later looks right
[23:02] <kub^> wolf0129: ok so what IP did you give the kubuntu machine ?
[23:02] <wolf0129> the assigned address from isp
[23:03] <wolf0129> but i pulled the ip address from his windows tower
[23:04] <kub^> wolf0129: i take it you have a dsl router connecting to the internet ?
[23:04] <wolf0129> yes
[23:04] <kub^> wolf0129: ok then what IP did you borrow from the windows box ?
[23:06] <wolf0129> kub^ i am not familliar with his system i told him i would look for suggestions
[23:08] <kub^> wolf0129: ok mate you shouldnt use the IP from the windows machine coz it will cause a conflict, if the windows box is running get him to do an "ipconfig /all" from the command line and tell you the default gateway and host IP
[23:08] <wolf0129> k
[23:09] <kub^> wolf0129: then you need to give the linux box an IP on the same network eg windows = 192.168.0.10 then make linux 192.168.0.11 with netmask 255.255.255.0 and set the default gateway as the one from the windows machine
[23:11] <wolf0129> k
[23:12] <kub^> wolf0129 back in 10 mins if you need me
[23:13] <romunov> i could use a few hints on how to install this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kore+%26+More++BG+for+Kooldock%2BAWN+%2B+Icons?content=67013
[23:16] <ardchoille> romunov: That seems to be some Backgrounds and reflective Icons for Kooldock. Do you have kooldock installed?
[23:16] <ardchoille> !info kooldock
[23:16] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[23:20] <wolf0129> kub^ ?
[23:27] <wolf0129> kub^  /
[23:27] <wolf0129> kub^ if what you have suggested does not work where should i go from there
[23:44] <limac> hi
[23:49] <kub^> hi wolf0129: im back
[23:50] <limac> I inserted a dvd and my CAN read dvds, but while trying to play it with kaffeine, it shows n error saying: -+
[23:50] <wolf0129> k if what you suggested earlier doesnt work where should i go from there
[23:51] <vzduch> limac: saying what?
[23:52] <limac> vzduch; hold on a sec
[23:52] <wolf0129> kub^ k if what you suggested earlier doesnt work where should i go from there
[23:52] <kub^> wolf0129: you need to find out that default gateway for your friend's network
[23:52] <kub^> wolf0129: what is the IP of the windows machine ?
[23:53] <wolf0129> kub^ im not sure i am not in front of his machine and he is not home
[23:53] <limac> kaffein somehow crashed
[23:53] <limac> and it isn't starting
[23:54] <wolf0129> kub^ i am just looking for suggestions to try
[23:54] <kub^>  wolf0129: i think i gave enough really you shuld be able to get the gateway and subnet ip range from an "ipconfig /all" on the windows machine
[23:54] <limac> i guess i have to restart my computer
[23:55] <wolf0129> kub^ thank you for your help
[23:56] <kub^> wolf0129 thats np mate any time
[23:57] <david__> Can anyone help me. Kmenuedit doesn't doesn't save changes.
[23:57] <_Sebulba_> david__, theres a save option
[23:57] <_Sebulba_> under the file menu
[23:58] <david__> yes... but doesn't save
[23:58] <_Sebulba_> make sure u do that
[23:58] <david__> even tried running it as sudo from command line.
[23:58] <_Sebulba_> hmm it does for me, it rearranages the menu with a progress bar
[23:58] <david__> Says it's saving, shwo the progress bar and nada.
[23:58] <_Sebulba_> takes a few secs, then it's applied
[23:58] <david__> reopen and still the same
[23:59] <_Sebulba_> hmm
[23:59] <david__> using adept add remove is fine.