[01:55]  * Fujitsu kicks kohnen.
[01:55]  * Hobbsee kicks Fujitsu
[01:56]  * Fujitsu is a good buildd.
[01:57] <Hobbsee> heh :)
[01:57]  * Fujitsu is glad to see the hppa queue backlog again.
[02:00] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: ah yes, good luck with that
[02:00] <Hobbsee> lamont: can fix it, iirc
[02:00] <Fujitsu> .......
[02:00] <Fujitsu> The queues are going crazy.
[02:01]  * Hobbsee has no power to cancel builds, etc
[02:01] <Fujitsu> i386 has gained 25 in the past 10 minutes, hppa has lost nine.
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #177797 in malone "Bug feeds should list source package name(s) in titles and descriptions in content" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177797
[02:08]  * Fujitsu wonders why Soyuz has dug up builds from April to build now...
[02:08] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: dogfood or normal?
[02:08]  * Nafallo|THM wonders why Fujitsu isn't on jabber
[02:08] <Fujitsu> Normal.
[02:08] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: mass giveback, perhaps.
[02:08] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: I didn't see one, but perhaps.
[02:09] <Fujitsu> Nafallo|THM: Because I got up half an hour ago, am sick, and forgot.
[02:09] <Nafallo|THM> Fujitsu: you always forget. you should have gajim in your session :-)
[02:09] <Fujitsu> I do.
[02:09] <Fujitsu> But my session doesn't get closed overnight.
[02:10] <Nafallo|THM> :-P
[02:10] <Nafallo|THM> stop killing gajim then
 gajim eh?
 you could always try empathy
[03:22]  * Fujitsu loves Gajim.
 Yeah, I used that too until I got the hang of empathy on gusty....
[03:23]  * Hobbsee ponders trying that, instead of gaim
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Note that it only does Jabber.
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Oh, Empathy?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> either
[03:25]  * Fujitsu should probably try that at some point.
 the zeroconf/avahi piece is nifty as well.  More or less the same functionality as pidgin ...just simpler
 but I'm off topic for this channel :-)
[03:25]  * Hobbsee thought you could get the other varieties also working thru jabber
[03:26] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: That's what I do.
[03:26] <Fujitsu> Rinchen: Gajim does that too, of course.
 true
 ** Rinchen runs way
[03:28]  * Fujitsu is a bit suspicious of queue-mangler at the moment. 100 hppa builds have left Pending in the past 2 hours, with two buildds...
[03:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: sacrifice more goats.
[03:30] <Hobbsee> and try a few pigeons
[03:43] <Hobbsee> lamont: so what is the ppa meaning of "trusted" for the ppa builders?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> seeing as i didn't get the benefit of cprov looking over my shoulder
[04:45]  * lamont waves, gets ready to head to bed
[04:46] <Hobbsee> night lamont 
[04:46] <Fujitsu> Night lamont.
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #177824 in soyuz "Build page for currently building builds has duplicate fields" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177824
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #177827 in soyuz "Automatic depwait giver-back should know about ogre-model" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177827
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #177833 in rosetta "percentages superimpose themself and become disorder in update session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177833
[08:06] <sivang> moring all!
[08:06] <Fujitsu> Hi sivang.
[08:06] <sivang> It seems that my membership for ubuntu-members has expried today, can somebody fix that up and extend my membership period ? :)
[08:06] <sivang> hey Fujitsu ! how you been doing ?
[08:06] <Fujitsu> sivang: You'll have to poke a CC person about that.
[08:08] <Fujitsu> sivang: Note that your membership won't lapse for a while, as you're in motu which is in ubuntu-dev which is in ubuntumembers.
[08:08] <sivang> Fujitsu: I'm even still in ubuntu-dev for that matter 
[08:08] <Fujitsu> sivang: Ah, they must have never got around to removing everyone.
[08:09] <sivang> (and I certainly intend to do some more real work on hubackup for hardy, so I think my request is in place)
[08:09] <sivang> who is a good CC person these days ? :)
[08:10]  * Fujitsu isn't sure if anybody is around.
[08:14] <sivang> shame I was bit too busy to notice the expiration messages
[08:50] <sivang> oh dear, only now I saw an email from kiko
[08:50] <sivang> does anybody know if he already went on his trip or still available online ?
[08:50] <sivang> SteveA, stub : ^^ (hi btw, long time)
[09:00] <daou> Has anyone tried to download translations from launchpad in the past week? I have been unable to do so since last Saturday
[09:01] <daou> Could someone try to download a .po file from my project and send it to me? Would be much appreciated.
[09:06] <daou> Nevermind, saw the the channel topic :P
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #177857 in launchpad-answers "The "Select a project" search box won't disappear when clicking cancel under Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177857
[10:15] <Fujitsu> bigjools: So, er, what actually caused my bug?
[10:15] <Fujitsu> Or is that verboten?
[10:15] <bigjools> just some bad code :(
[10:16] <Fujitsu> Why have things gradually been getting superseded throughout the day? I would have thought they would have been done at once...
[10:18] <bigjools> I'm not entirely sure!  
[10:18] <bigjools> Does it look ok for you now?
[10:19] <Fujitsu> It looks pretty good, but the queue is a bit shorter than I would have expected, and is getting shorter as things that had their sources superseded a month ago are getting superseded.
[10:19] <Fujitsu> It could well be correct, though.
[11:54] <sivang> hi matsubara !
[11:54] <sivang> matsubara: do you know if kiko should be around?
[11:55] <matsubara> hey sivang!
[11:55] <matsubara> I don't know, he might.
[11:59]  * Fujitsu knows he's leaving within a day or two, maybe already.
[12:00] <matsubara> yeah, he told me he would be on holidays starting yesterday, but yesterday he's here all day :-)
[12:01] <mwhudson> canonical employees aren't very good at being on holiday :)
[12:06] <Fujitsu> Shouldn't Soyuz be marking DEPWAIT builds SUPERSEDED as it does with NEEDSBUILD?
[12:31] <sivang> matsubara: hmm, I need to help him on a trip to here :)
[12:31] <sivang> matsubara: he mailed me 10 days ago but I was too busy to notice :(
[12:32] <sivang> matsubara: I hope he's getting well and to meet him, I understood he wanted to visit here
[12:34] <matsubara> sivang: right. He'll likely contact you then.
[12:35] <sivang> matsubara: do you know if he already went on the trip or took a flight ?
[12:35] <matsubara> sivang: no idea, sorry.
[12:36] <matsubara> sivang: he was in the London office, that's why I don't know.
[12:36] <sivang> matsubara: sure np, how's stuff otherwise ? how are you doing ?
[12:37] <matsubara> sivang: pretty good, thanks! looking forward for the holidays :-) How about you?
[12:37] <sivang> matsubara: Coming back after a while of a break
[12:38] <sivang> matsubara: I noticed you closed a couple of bugs of mine, good work :)
[12:38] <sivang> (some of them I opened quite a while ago)
[12:42] <matsubara> sivang: LP team has been busy :-)
[12:44] <sivang> yes indeed
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #177873 in soyuz "MANUALDEPWAIT builds should migrate to SUPERSEDED as NEEDSBUILD does" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177873
[12:46] <sivang> matsubara: if he comes here tell him to call me, I sent him my cell number
[12:46] <sivang> thanks
[12:47]  * sivang is off for a while
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #177875 in soyuz "Builds for old releases not correctly superseded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177875
[12:52] <Kmos> MOTU Q&A session in 11 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #177876 in malone "~user/+assignedbugs should not show bugs when a bugtask is assigned to user, and nomination exists for that bugtask but is assigned to a different user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177876
[14:52] <kiko> hey there
[14:52] <kiko> somebody looking for me?
[14:52] <kiko> sivang!
[15:19] <Rinchen> Hi kiko
[15:25] <kiko> hey Rinchen 
[15:25] <kiko> getting the hell out of here
[15:26] <Rinchen> good good
[15:26] <Rinchen> enjoy
[15:26] <kiko> cheers
[15:26] <Rinchen> ack the mobile number
[15:26] <kiko> Rinchen, oh
[15:26] <Hobbsee> holidays...you people suck.
[15:26]  * Hobbsee is very jealous
[15:27] <kiko> Rinchen, about the bugzilla document
[15:27] <kiko> I don't know what to do with mark's comments
[15:27] <Rinchen> I had a simple chat with BT last night. I'll contact him this morning and sort it out so we can send it through
[15:28] <kiko> Rinchen, okay. please call me I'm happy to help
[15:28] <kiko> on my way out now
[15:28] <kiko> enjoy!
[15:28] <Rinchen> safe flight
[15:29] <kiko> flight? it's a taxi ride. :)
[15:30] <Rinchen> hehe
[15:30] <Rinchen> Rush hour you know...
[15:30] <Rinchen> ever see one of those taxi's take a corner so tight it rides up on 2 wheels?
[15:30] <Rinchen> :-)
[15:30] <kiko> it's shabat dude
[15:30] <kiko> nothing's happening
[15:31] <kiko> fuck it, let's go bowling
[15:31] <Rinchen> lol
[15:44] <sivang> kiko: you here? :)
[16:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[16:08] <matsubara> mpt!
[16:08] <mpt> hi matsubara 
[16:13] <Rinchen> mpt!
[16:13] <Rinchen> you're ears must have been ringing
[16:15] <mpt> Rinchen, actually, I arrived 5 minutes too late for the fire alarm
[16:16] <Rinchen> lol
[16:19] <mpt> This channel's topic is too long
[16:29] <jdstrand> hi! please point to the right forum if this is the wrong place, but I recently 'Nominated for release' a bug for all the releases.  I then updated the status for Hardy to 'Fix Released'.  Unfortunately, because it says 'Status tracked in Hardy', the bug disappeared off bug list for the package.
[16:29] <jdstrand> bug #172260
[16:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172260 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "[mysql] multiple vulnerabilities" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172260
[16:30] <jdstrand> Is there a way to change it to 'Status tracked in Dapper'?
[16:30] <jdstrand> (or really anything other than hardy)
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #177919 in rosetta "Translators should be pointed to untranslated strings not to ALL." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177919
 This channel's topic is too long
[17:11] <Rinchen> mpt, yeah, I've been toying with the idea of stuffing it in help.lp.net and then just including the link above
[17:11] <mpt> For me it ends with "| Join the beta team: ht"
[17:11] <Rinchen> same here
[17:11] <mpt> The existence of separate "Help" and "Support" sections is a symptom of something
[17:14] <Rinchen> ya
[17:14] <Rinchen> I just copied that into a text file so I can read it
[17:14] <Rinchen> a good portion of the stuff after the meeting info is on the front page of help.lp.net
[17:14] <Rinchen> maybe I should just update the frontpage with that info
[17:15]  * Rinchen goes off to view the frontpage again
[17:20] <Rinchen> oh mpt this is dangerous
[17:20] <Rinchen> I'm rewriting a number of things on the front page
[17:21] <Odd_Bloke> Danger, mpt Robinson.
[17:23] <mpt> whoo
[17:23]  * mpt wonders why Launchpad is offering to let him delete a packaging link
[17:26] <mpt> ha, it's because bug 4556 is fixed
[17:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 4556 in launchpad "Can't remove link between project and source package" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4556 - Assigned to David Allouche (ddaa)
[17:28] <Rinchen> ok mpt, I'm done tinkering with  https://help.launchpad.net
[17:30] <mpt> ddaa, should I really have permissions to delete Ubuntu packaging links? I don't feel as if I should
[17:30] <mpt> Don't get me wrong, everyone having permission is much better than the previous situation of no-one being able to
[17:31] <mpt> but I'm not sure of the wikiality of packaging links
[17:36] <gspr> I guess you people must be tired of this by now, but is it possible to have my PPA cleaned out? I posted a launchpad question, and the packages were removed from the overview, but the deb and source files still remain, so no new upload is possible.
[17:37] <Rinchen> bigjools, ^^  we should add that to FAQ sir
[17:37] <bigjools> Rinchen: +1 :)
[17:37] <Rinchen> gspr, bigjools is building up an extended PPA FAQ to help with these sort of questions. 
[17:38] <bigjools> gspr: unfortunately it's an admin procedure at the moment, but the next cycle should see new functionality that will enable you to delete packages yourself
[17:38] <gspr> ok
[17:38] <gspr> thanks guys
[17:38] <gspr> the PPA is a great idea, by the way
[17:39] <bigjools> it sure is!
[17:39] <bigjools> but I might be slightly biased
[17:39] <gspr> you're one of the creators?
[17:44]  * gmb chuckles at the idea of bigjools as a god
[17:44] <bigjools> lol
[17:44] <bigjools> gspr: I work on the code, yes
[17:45] <gspr> hehe
[17:46] <gspr> it must be extremely practical for for example a small business with a few computers that doesn't need/want to run their own repository but still needs a few packages customized
[17:49] <bigjools> indeed
[17:49] <bigjools> we have a lot of improvements planned for PPAs
[18:22] <pochu> \o/ yay for the SF bug status sync!
[18:22]  * pochu expects a lot of bug mail soon :-)
[18:24] <oly-> hi, can anyone help me i have hit a problem with bzr, it says it cannot rename a file and refuses to p[ull my code down exact error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49186/
[18:25] <oly-> its also stopping me from push code changes to launchpad as well
[18:31] <mwhudson> huh wtf!
[18:31] <mwhudson> oly-: what bzr version?
[18:32] <oly-> 0.90-1 the one in gutsy
[18:33] <oly-> i tried bzr commit at work to upload my code and got that error, came home and did a bzr pull and got the same error 
[18:33] <oly-> so thats on 2 different computers
[18:33] <mwhudson> oly-: file a bug, i guess
[18:33] <mwhudson> but i've no real idea
[18:34] <mwhudson> sadly, it's 30 minutes after i stop work for the last day for ten days...
[18:34] <oly-> okay, where should i post the bug against bzr or launchpad ?
[18:35] <oly-> i would guess launchpad, 
[18:36] <oly-> i will ask in the bzr channel they might have some ideas as to whats wrong
[19:04] <oliver_g1> hi
[19:06] <oliver_g1> why is it that when searching in Ubuntu bugs for "flash md5" the "FlashPlayer installation problem, because of the MD5 Check ..." bug is not found?
[19:06] <oliver_g1> yet when trying to report a new bug, it suggests this one?
[19:07] <oliver_g1> did I mess up my search settings somehow?
[19:09] <oliver_g1> oh I see... the bug it found is a duplicate; and the original one doesn't have md5 in title :-(
[19:09] <oliver_g1> unfortunate :-(
[19:12] <pochu> oliver_g1: feel free to edit the title to add it ;)
[19:12] <oliver_g1> pochu: heh yes :-)
[19:13] <oliver_g1> i can imagine the flood of subscribers who will tear down on poor me for spamming them :-D
[19:15] <ubotu> New bug: #177949 in launchpad "Non-existent feeds url causing an oops instead of not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177949
[19:24] <mpt> oliver_g1, you've just encountered bug 30307
[19:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 30307 in malone "Use terms from duplicate bugs to return originals in searches" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30307
[19:28] <oliver_g1> mpt: yeah exactly
[19:28] <oliver_g1> I would set it to confirmed if it wasn't already :-)
[20:24] <blueyed> You don't get karma anymore for closing bugs from a changelog/sponsored upload?
[20:26] <blueyed> ..because they now seem to get closed by LP Janitor instead.
[20:39] <jelmer> is there a way to merge teams in launchpad?
[20:43] <gmb> jelmer: If you file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad an admin should be able to tell you. I don't know for sure that it can be done, though.
[20:44] <jelmer> gmb, ok, thanks
[20:44] <gmb> np.
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #177980 in launchpad "branch register should be harder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177980
[22:57] <frenchy> Hi all, I'm trying to `bzr push` my branch but I'm getting "Unable to obtain lock lp--1221006420:///lock".
[22:57] <frenchy> I know exactly why this is ... I killed the push half way through safe in the knowledge that bzr can do atomic transactions.
[22:58] <frenchy> How can I kill the lock?
[23:06] <frenchy> From what I've googled, this does not happen automatically.
[23:12] <soren> frenchy: bzr break-lock
[23:17] <frenchy> soren: Thanks, sorry, I should've checked the man page before google.
[23:17] <soren> frenchy: :)