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poningruhey guys quick question04:43
poningruI have a 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)04:44
poningruwith hardy running 2.6.2404:44
poningrushould it be using the b43 driver?04:44
poningruI had ndiswrapper installed04:45
poningrubut now its not working04:45
crimsunyes, it should be using b43.04:48
poningruI am going to assume no one has said anything04:54
krautmoin07:29
sivanghi all08:53
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Kanohi,when will be rc6 merged?14:34
zulKano: probably not til the new year15:01
Kanonot the answer i wanted to hear15:05
zulwell it is christmas basically15:09
Kanonext monday evening15:09
Kanonot before15:09
Kanonot today15:10
BenCKano: the kernel devs (and all of canonical for that matter) are on holiday till Jan 215:11
Kanowhat was the option to disable abi checks?15:12
BenCIt's on the wiki15:12
Kanobut doesnt that change the version?15:13
BenCskip_abi=true15:13
Kanook, will try my own patchset then15:13
Kanohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/17772515:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177725 in linux "pnpacpi: exceeded the max number of mem/IO resources" [Undecided,New] 15:14
Kanodo you know if that is fixed in rc6?15:15
Kanoalso a mini mac did not boot with current 2.6.2415:15
Kanoalso does somebody know how to add a hook for initramfs to add a blacklist option15:28
Kanoi have such an optin a custon initrd for kanotix, as i need to blacklist prism5415:28
Kanosometimes ehci-hcd15:29
Kanoprism54 is also loaded together with p54pci but my card only needs p54pci15:37
Kanosoftmac cards never work with prism5415:40
zulhave a good christmas everyone17:14
Keybukso, if I have a built kernel source19:29
Keybukand I've changed the code to one module19:29
Keybukhow do I rebuild just that one module?19:29
soren"make M=/path/to/module modules" I belive.19:33
sorenThe top-level makefile is richly commented. I'm certain there's an example describing just that.19:33
sorenKeybuk: ^^19:33
Keybukthanks19:41
JanCsomeone should fix gcc/make to know that by itself  ;)19:42
Keybukthat seems to try and build an external module19:44
sorenKeybuk: Stop pointing it at an external directory?19:56
Keybukthat didn't work19:57
Keybukmake path/to/module.ko worked from the top level19:57
sorenHmm... I'm sure I've done in-tree builds the same way. Oh, well. 19:58
mjg59Keybuk: Yeah, that's the way I always do it20:05
mjg59Keybuk: You can actually do it from an unbuilt tree as well, as long as you mkdir .tmp_versions20:05
Keybukmjg59: so far, I know it's not just insertion that's broken21:33
Keybukbut any kind of detection of the card21:33
TorgotonHey all. The folks in #ubuntu-installer sent me here. I'm trying the bare minimum install on a very old machine, using only the linux and initrd.gz files. Dapper and Edgy start the installer, but Feisty and Gutsy both crash, even when using the 386 versions. I can point you to the gutsy crash output if you like. Also, my keyboard gets mapped all crazy, but I can start an install (with dapper and edgy) if I use a serial console.23:28
ln-you are very optimistic by assuming that someone cares.23:30
TorgotonIndeed. An optimist I am.23:31
TorgotonI thought someone might care that the kernels built for low-spec machines crash on some of them.23:31
ln-let me quote what i was told about a crash: 23:32
ln-12:36 < amitk> ln-: If you want JustWorks (TM), you have to either help during beta testing or get a support contract. It is unrealistic to expect that a distribution will hit all your target usecases.23:32
TorgotonI was hoping it would hit this one. I know the wiki is a community project and could be out of date, but it claims a 486 with 32MB RAM will be just enough machine for the job.23:34
Kanohaha, you get better pcs for free ;)23:35
TorgotonThis machine has 36MB RAM, but I paid a lot for it... when it was new... 15 years go.23:35
Kanonow you have to pay when you want to give it back ;)23:36
TorgotonIt's a ThinkPad 750P, and I have Woody on it, and the netboot files for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty and Gutsy, and I can load each of them with Lilo.23:36
Torgotonindeed, kano!23:36
ln-insignificantly small number of people run ubuntu on 486, i doubt anyone cares to investigate and fix your problem.23:38
TorgotonIn-, do you need a hug? Where's the holiday spirit?23:38
TorgotonIf anyone else cares, here's the Gutsy crash output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49098/23:38
ln-i'm only telling the facts.23:40
TorgotonWhere I'm from, programmers tend to like challenges, especially low-level programmers... like the kind who would know about CPU initialization.23:40
johanbrTorgoton: I think your best best might be to build your own minimalistic kernel and see if the error still occurs.23:44
JanCI remember that mdz (I think it was him?) ran Ubuntu on a soekris in the past23:45
JanCbut that might have been dapper or even an older version  ;)23:45
JanCTorgoton: is this a real 486 _with_ FPU ?23:46
Torgotonjanc, it's a 486SL which is supposed to have the FPU.23:46
JanChm, SL ?  I would have to check what that was again  ツ23:47
TorgotonI'm pretty technical (i've written i960 initialization code years ago), and a long-time linux use, but mostly with Fedora.23:47
Torgotonso I am comfortable running suggested commands and capturing logs.23:47
JanCah, 486SL = low power 486DX, yeah, that should have a FPU I guess23:48
Torgotonand as I wrote, Dapper and Edgy boot fine (except for the keyboard thing)23:48
JanCAFAIK the -386 kernel is compiled with the 486DX as lowest supported CPU in mind23:50
Torgoton(and yet they call it the 386 kernel :) )23:51
JanCIIRC it's impossible to make a secure i386 kernel23:51
JanCsome bug in that CPU  ;)23:52
TorgotonWhat?! a bug? in the CPU?!?23:52
JanC"invalid opcode" → sounds like it tries to do something not supported by your CPU ?23:54
JanCI know nothing more about it  ツ23:55
Torgotonwell, I'll capture the Feisty output and see what's different.23:55
TorgotonBTW, anyone know the kernel parameter to make it not mess with the keyboard? Is it keyboard=reset or something like that?23:56
JanChow does it mess with the keyboard?  ツ23:56
TorgotonI type shift, and it shows "v"... the arrows, tab, space and enter don't work in the installer.23:57
JanCand it doesn't do that with debian?23:57
Torgotonnot with Woody.23:57
Torgoton2.2.20 kernel23:58
JanCI wonder if this is just a weird keyboard and recent kernels just don't include support for it anymore (at least by default) ?23:58
KanoTorgoton: maybe 486SX?23:58
TorgotonKano, nope. 486SL.23:58
JanCKano: 486SL has all DX features + some power saving features, according to wikipedia23:59

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