[03:03] <Ahmuck> what version of server do i need for a "list of server types" such as ltsp, dns, dhcp, etc. to install?
[03:09] <somerville32> Ahmuck, say again? :S
[03:13] <Ahmuck> somewhere i booted a ubuntu-server disc, and at some point was presented with a menu to install and it had dhcp, dns, etc. on the menu
[03:13]  * somerville32 nods.
[03:13] <Ahmuck> i've been combing my ubuntu-server, alternate, etc. to find that menu
[03:14] <Ahmuck> but i can't find it on any install, i must be missing a step
[03:18] <mralphabet> Ahmuck: you are looking for task select
[03:19] <Ahmuck> mralphabet: nope, i'm looking for a install menu for which type of server to install, dhcp, dns, ltsp, etc.
[03:19] <Ahmuck> as dedicated servers
[03:20] <mralphabet> Ahmuck: see my previous comment
[03:20] <mralphabet> Ahmuck: sudo tasksel list
[03:20] <Ahmuck> hrm, guess i'm lost
[03:20] <mralphabet> Ahmuck: sudo tasksel install mail-server
[03:20] <mralphabet> etc
[03:21] <Ahmuck> when my current vm install is complete, i'll boot another and look again
[03:21] <Ahmuck> ah, once the server is installed?
[03:21] <mralphabet> that "usually" pops up during the actual install from a server install disk
[03:21] <Ahmuck> or command line install
[03:22] <mralphabet> but you can force the issue from command line once you have the base server installed
[03:22] <Ahmuck> ah, i'll bet i saw it on JeOS install.  i'll have to check.  iirc, ubuntu server won't run under vbox because of some PAE thingy
[03:22] <mralphabet> also, 7.04 only has a couple tasks, 7.10 has several more
[03:23] <Ahmuck> ya, that's what i'm after, that's why i noticed it.  7.10 had lots.  so your saying this should pop up on it's own?
[03:23] <mralphabet> that is quite possible, the jeos installer has even more options I believe
[03:23] <mralphabet> on the standard server install cd, it should, i believe
[03:24] <mralphabet> I haven't actually gone through a 7.10 install ;(
[03:24] <Ahmuck> ya, hrm, i'm not getting it for some reason
[03:24] <mralphabet> it did on 7.06 when i did that install
[03:25] <mralphabet> but as I said, once you get something running, just do 'sudo tasksel list' and you can choose options from there
[03:26] <nealmcb> I don't remember tasksel being part of a jeos install, but it is part of a server install
[03:27] <mralphabet> nealmcb: ahh, sorry for my misunderstanding ;(
[03:27] <nealmcb> but I forget when it comes or if it depends on something else
[03:28] <Ahmuck> nealmcb: really, for some reason it is not starting for me and i dont' understand why
[03:29] <Ahmuck> ah, i think i know.  rather than reboot, esc, then a tasklist is presented
[03:29] <Ahmuck> hrm, i'll see in about 10 min
[03:33] <Ahmuck> ah, nm, there is is
[03:33] <Ahmuck> at the end
[03:45] <Ahmuck> ubuntu ume, or mobile and embeded is a small footprint?
[03:48] <Ahmuck> linux-ubuntu-modules.x.x.xx.-server is a server module?
[04:00] <Ahmuck> in ubuntu-server if i select lvm the first time, and then have to do a re-install (testing) and attempt to do lvm the second time i get an error.  this bug is repeatable.  it forces me to select "entire disk" rather than "entire disk with LVM" on the second round
[04:17] <Ahmuck> tasksel is not part of JeOS install
[04:26] <Ahmuck> if i backup my aptoncd, i can set it as a priority for downloads for apt?
[04:27] <mralphabet> Ahmuck: I believe so, you can edit the sources.list
[04:27] <Ahmuck> k, i think i've tried that before, but i'll try again
[04:28] <Ahmuck> i usually just create an iso and mount it in the vbox
[04:40] <Ahmuck> bleh, aptoncd works if you can restore aptoncd ... searching for another method
[05:01] <Ahmuck> ah, apt-cdrom add
[05:32] <Ahmuck> k, what do you do if you want to setup 10 servers the same?  keep downloading from ubuntu servers using aptitude?
[06:03] <mralphabet> preseeding
[06:57] <macd> Ahmuck, I just know howto bootstrap a system, but Im sure google would turn up a doc or two, think livecd+gparted+debootstrap
[06:57] <macd> Ahmuck, or I could throw something together, it might be a good thing for the wiki anywho
[06:57] <macd> but that might take a few days
[06:58] <Ahmuck> what is a bootstrap, just bare debain?
[06:59] <macd> pretty much, kernel+binutils
[06:59] <macd> I use it to make a virtual machine host, then also build guests off the same method
[06:59] <macd> then you can have a base template for all your vm's
[07:00] <macd> thats prolly further than you need
[07:02] <macd> oops
[07:04] <macd> Ahmuck, not sure if you said anything elsae
[07:04] <Ahmuck> well, i was thinking about bootstraping some old pcs if i thought it would make a difference, however after fighting with xserver-xorg install and trying to install just the video driver and input driver i needed, i don't think it's going to work without a lot of work.  i was looking for an install that would reduce the number of processes going on and free memory
[07:04] <macd> its an option to only get a base system
[07:05] <macd> I'd like to see something similar as a tasksel on install
[07:05]  * macd makes a note on that
[07:19] <Ahmuck> something similark, oh, right, a base install.  i think jeos was an attempt at that.  i hope they pursue it further
[07:20] <Ahmuck> actually, i just semi-abort the server install, and so it does not install a particular server
[07:20] <steelwolf> Hi i have only 2 files listed on http://203.116.63.66/dl/ but when i did ls -l there's other 2 tar files but its not showing up.is it permission problem?i have it all chmod 777
[07:22] <Ahmuck> the files are .something?
[07:22] <Ahmuck> ls -al
[07:23] <Ahmuck> or ls -a
[07:29] <kraut> moin
[07:54] <steelwolf> no
[07:54] <steelwolf> without .something
[08:05] <Ahmuck> where is the domain name set for ubuntu server?  hostname is set in /etc/hostname, but domainname is set in ?
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahmuck needs more patience
[10:15]  * kraut slaps ICU with a sun fire v240
[10:15] <ICU> pah
[10:15]  * ICU slaps kraut with a SunFire 3800.
[10:16] <kraut> i bet, after i hurt you with a v240, you got down to the ground :P
[10:35] <ICU> you can't even lift it :P
[14:26] <pete1> hi all
[14:56] <pete2> hello
[14:58] <pete2> can someone help with m1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier. i cant get scanner to work. printer works flawlesly but xsane refuses to detect scanner, any help on this ?
[17:27] <dantalizing> can someone tell me what the issue is with supporting webmin?
[17:40] <leonel> !webmin
[17:40] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[17:45] <dantalizing> generic... webmin has downloadable debs which they claim they test ... i only saw 1 bug related to webmin ...that was for bacula
[19:33] <genii> Hello, If I have 2 identical drives with identical uuid and contents if I use the uuid for grub and fstab will it write to both?
[19:33] <genii> (both drives)
[19:34]  * genii sips a coffee
[19:42] <genii> Maybe I'll experiment on a couple usb sticks
[19:43] <soren> genii: No.
[19:43] <soren> genii: If you have two drives with identical uuid, you're bound to get unexpected results.
[19:43] <genii> soren: So it's a first-found wins thing
[19:44] <genii> eg sda =uuid match so sda gets used?
[19:44] <soren> I'd actually rather guess last-found wins.
[19:44] <genii> Hmm
[19:45] <soren> Given a UUID we won't iterate through block devices looking for it.
[19:45] <soren> When a block device appears, its uuid is detected and a symlink is created in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:45] <genii> ah by udev, yes
[19:47] <soren> Right.
[19:47] <soren> ...but seriously...
[19:47] <soren> Two block devices with the same uuid => trouble.
[19:48] <genii> soren: The idea occurred to me because once by accident I put 2 identical hd both set as master on the old ribbons (without cs twist in them) and the computer wrote to both
[19:49] <soren> erk..