[00:00] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys.. keep it on topic
[00:00] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:00] <flyback> my favorite in lemmings II was the highland tribe I would pause and listen to that adlib bagpipe synth tune for hrs
[00:00] <flyback> :P
[00:00] <brobostigon> i also loved the very first prince os persia
[00:00] <brobostigon> of
[00:00] <eldkraft> Slart: yeah to orsakringskassann and such. I never got it to work in 64bit ubuntu though.. just SUSE
[00:00] <PriceChild> !offtopic | flyback brobostigon
[00:00] <ubotu> flyback brobostigon: please see above
[00:00] <Pici> This is a support channel, we have other channels for chatter.
[00:00] <dessnr> did you hear the panpipes in lev 22 in easy level of lemmings 1?
[00:00] <flyback> ok :)
[00:00] <PriceChild> dessnr, offtopic
[00:00] <Pici> dessnr: offtopic
[00:00] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:00] <dessnr> sorry :|
[00:00] <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK"
[00:00] <flyback> there now I am really off topic :P
[00:00]  * flyback wanders off
[00:00] <brobostigon> sorry, just reminiscing
[00:01] <Jerr> quick nvidia question: Twinview = DualView in windows?
[00:01] <Phusion> :)
[00:01] <Phusion> twinview = two monitors one card
[00:01] <Slart> eldkraft: oh.. currently I'm using firefox32  when I have to do that stuff.. it's only a couple of times per year.. deklarationsdags =)
[00:01] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:01] <exploid> Anyone got dual monitor working easyly? I
[00:01] <brobostigon> good night all
[00:01] <Jerr> I might after this
[00:01] <savageone> exploid: nope but I'd like to
[00:01] <exploid> I'm trying to make it work on my laptop but doesn't want to
[00:01] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:02] <timewriter> !tvtuner
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <MacTheMad> slart: 2 lines: line 1 reads: 192.168.2.0     *     255.255.255.0     U     0     0     0   eth0 and line 2 reads: default     192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0     UG     100     0     0     eth0
[00:02] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:02] <Spzatt> jesus answer me then
[00:02] <eldkraft> Slart: haha yeah and I use it for pappadagar
[00:03] <musikgoat> MacTheMad: do you have problem with dhcp as well?
[00:03] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes.. that looks right to me.. gateway is 192.168.2.1.. which you can't ping.. odd
[00:03] <Jerr> well I screwed that one up, whats the command again to reset my x.conf (sorry it's been a while...)
[00:03] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:03] <tsukasa_> question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
[00:04] <timewriter> anyone knows how to install Tv tuner on feisty ?
[00:04] <Lyco> has anyone ever seen a bootscreen like this one after installing Gutsy? http://picasaweb.google.com/lycoloco/RandomJunk/photo?authkey=IDvsa9PplsM#5146209518028959650
[00:04] <Slart> MacTheMad: would you try another thing,please. "sudo iptables -L" .. it should just be 3 lines.. all with "policy ACCEPT"
[00:04] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:04] <Jerr> timewriter: I think I saw that on the community support
[00:05] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:05] <MacTheMad> on that machine with ubuntu yes... it's turned on in the router but on my windows installation I hard coded it to 11 so I would always pull down the same ip I have set for p2p
[00:05] <Slart> eldkraft: hehe... have you tried the other variants available? there is one from posten.. one from nordbanken, I think..
[00:05] <musikgoat> Lyco: thats the windows bootloader
[00:05] <Lyco> it is?
[00:05] <timewriter> i have Leadtek Tv2000 Xp Global
[00:05] <Lyco> hmm... so how do I get grub to show up instead of that, musikgoat?
[00:05] <Spzatt> guys!?
[00:05] <Lyco> that's what showed up after a fresh install of gutsy
[00:05] <grout> is there an app that can make iso images from cdrom?
[00:05] <musikgoat> sounds like you might not have installed gutsy to the first system disk?
[00:05] <musikgoat> is it on a second disk?
[00:05] <Lyco> nope, you're right. I didn't
[00:05] <Lyco> yup
[00:05] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:06] <dessnr> grout: k3b is a good one for that
[00:06] <grout> thanks
[00:06] <Lyco> I've got 2 SATA drives with OSes on them. The first has XP, teh second has Ubuntu
[00:06] <musikgoat> lyco, go into bios and set your second disk to be the first disk boot
[00:06] <timewriter> grout , there is a command for that i guess
[00:06] <MacTheMad> slart: yes 3 entries all with policy accept
[00:06] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:06] <musikgoat> there should be some boot menu to do that Lyco
[00:06] <Lyco> so should I put grub on HD1 when I'm installing the bootloader, musikgoat?
[00:06] <Slart> Spzatt: if you leave it for a while, doesn't it continue?
[00:06] <tsukasa_> question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
[00:06] <Spzatt> Slart : no
[00:06] <musikgoat> lyco, that will do it too
[00:06] <Lyco> yeah, I know how to get to that, so that's not a problem, musikgoat. I appreciate your help  :)
[00:07] <musikgoat> sure thing
[00:07] <Jerr> oh man, I forgot now how to start up X again
[00:07] <snkmad> anyone else had problems booting ubuntu after latest kernel header update?
[00:07] <Slart> MacTheMad: and the error when you tried ping 192.168.2.1 was "network unreachable"?
[00:07] <Spzatt> What can i do?
[00:08] <Spzatt> Can i bring the destkop up in recovery mode? (use the command?)
[00:08] <Jerr> ubotu: !help > Jerr
[00:08] <MacTheMad> slart: all 4 lines "destination host unreachable"
[00:08] <rafael_> good evening can somebody, please, direct me to an easy way to make the 64 bit Ubuntu sun-java work.
[00:08] <Slart> Spzatt: hmm.. well.. mda is a raid-device I think.. and that message indicates that dms for some reason didn't work out (dma makes hard drive transfers faster, kind of).. it shouldn't keep you from booting though.. it should continue
[00:08] <shadowblade> Don't know if people here can help with this...When I try to boot into my vista partition from grub, my computer just restarts and comes back to grub. Anyone have any ideas?
[00:09] <Spzatt> Ok, ill restart and let it go then.
[00:09] <musikgoat> mdadm is slart, i think his is dma
[00:09] <musikgoat> direct memory access?
[00:09] <timewriter> it seems like i need the driver for cx8800
[00:09] <Slart> musikgoat: usually there's a device name first in that error.. and I think mda, mdb, mdc etc are raid-devices..
[00:09] <nickrud> shadowblade, sudo fdisk -l , does that show your partitions? (just stab in the dark)
[00:09] <musikgoat> your right
[00:10] <shadowblade> nickrud: yep, theyre all there
[00:10] <musikgoat> ahh, didn't see the first part
[00:10] <musikgoat> heh
[00:10] <shadowblade> nickrud: i can see the partition just fine from here (ubuntu)
[00:10] <Slart> musikgoat: or perhaps that was md0, md1.. I don't really remember
[00:11] <nickrud> shadowblade, ok, my partition table got trashed by an install once, had to reinstall vista. Thats good for you. Is your vista on partition 1?
[00:11] <dessnr> nickrud: is there no way that you can rebuild the grub boot block?
[00:11] <shadowblade> nickrud: sda3
[00:11] <Slart> MacTheMad: do you get any output if you run "arp"?
[00:12] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:12] <MacTheMad> slart: should I try a different ip from the one coded on the windows install?
[00:12] <nickrud> shadowblade, hm, a sec
[00:12] <timewriter> lol i guess the module is already loaded
[00:12] <Slart> MacTheMad: you dualboot with windows on this machine?
[00:12] <Urim> hi guys.. installing ubuntu7.10 for the first time with winxp.. have some trouble booting winxp.. anyone willing to offer help.. would appreciate it a lot
[00:13] <MacTheMad> not on this machine but on that one yes
[00:13] <timewriter> night .
[00:13] <nickrud> shadowblade, sorry, I thought I had some down time at work. brb
[00:13] <shadowblade> nickrud: np
[00:13] <mwilsonemt> I have a volume problem on a Toshiba lap top, anyone able to help trouble shoot?
[00:13] <Slart> MacTheMad: well.. might as well try another ip.. can't do any harm
[00:13] <MacTheMad> slart: not on this machine but on the one having trouble yes
[00:13] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: whats your issue?
[00:14] <mwilsonemt> Musikgoat, I have extreamly low volume.  Already checked my music player, ALSA mixer and the laptop volume controle
[00:14] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: i have the same problem, you have to modify the hda driver... let me find the commands again
[00:15] <mwilsonemt> Thanks
[00:15] <MacRafy> Do somebody know a website with a complete how to for sun java 6 64bit
[00:15] <wols> Urim: what problems?
[00:15] <Urim> hi wols :D
[00:16] <Slart> MacTheMad: you can try this too.. "ping -I eth0 192.168.2.1" ... just to be sure it picks the right interface for the traffic
[00:16] <nickrud> shadowblade, while I'm finishing here, could you put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:16] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:16] <ryancr> is anyone using atl1 network driver?? I am having a heck of a probem
[00:16] <ryancr> problem*
[00:17] <wols> Garath531: a) why not use the ubuntu apache2  b) your need build-essential
[00:17] <wols> !anyone | ryancr
[00:17] <ubotu> ryancr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:17] <Garath531> How do I get the ubuntu apache2 ?
[00:17] <wols> Garath531: by installing it via apt or another package management tool
[00:17] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314383    follow the instructions for the toshiba satellite
[00:17] <nickrud> !info apache2 feisty
[00:18] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[00:18] <l21logan99> hello
[00:18] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: except for me, only model=auto worked, not model=3stack
[00:18] <l21logan99> i need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
[00:18] <wols> Urim: do you have a problem or not?
[00:18] <mwilsonemt> musikgoat, thanks again
[00:18] <Garath531> !info apache2 Feisty
[00:18] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[00:18] <ryancr> I just got a new asus motherboard that has gigabit network on it that uses the atl1 driver, I am getting an ip etc, but cannot get 'out' of the computer, cannot ping anything, any ideas?
[00:19] <jacob_> how can i scan the area for access points and connect to them in the terminal?
[00:19] <wols> rafael_:pastebinthe output of sudo ifconfig -a, route and cat /etc/resolv.conf to a pastebin
[00:19] <Garath531> Where can I get ubuntu apache2?
[00:19] <musikgoat> oh and mwilsonemt  you may just need the following line, this is what worked for me:  options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[00:19] <wols> jacob_: install wireless tools. iwlist for example
[00:20] <Garath531> Does it come with the live CD?
[00:20] <MacTheMad> slart: nope didn't help only how do I get it to stop?
[00:20] <Slart> MacTheMad: ctrl+c
[00:20] <wols> Garath531: from your ubuntu repostiroy.
[00:20] <l21logan99>  need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
[00:20] <l21logan99> i need the driver
[00:20] <Slart> MacTheMad: just have to ask this.. the network cable is connected, right? little lights blinking?
[00:20] <wols> !wireless l21logan99
[00:20] <nickrud> dessnr, yes there is, use the instructions from the 'after installing windows' section in the next factoid
[00:20] <nickrud> !grub | dessnr
[00:20] <wols> !wireless | l21logan99
[00:20] <ubotu> dessnr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:20] <ubotu> l21logan99: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:20] <wols> l21logan99: what chip?
[00:21] <Lyco> is there any way to check and see which drive is which as far as grub would be concerned when I'm in the live cd? I wanna make sure I'm putting this bootloader in the right place this time
[00:21] <shadowblade> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49088/
[00:21] <l21logan99> 	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.13.1)
[00:21] <wols> l21logan99: grub has nothing to do with drivers or the live cd
[00:21] <musikgoat> Lyco: you can look for the ntfs partition
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub dessnr
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub dessnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:21] <Garath531> !repository
[00:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub | dessnr
[00:21] <Garath531> !info repository
[00:21] <wols> !msg the bot
[00:21] <ubotu> Package repository does not exist in gutsy
[00:21] <wols> !msgthebot
[00:21] <Lyco> musikgoat: it's mounted, so what do I do to find out which one the current one that i'm on is?
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub
[00:22] <MacTheMad> slart: well it tried 87 times... all destination host unreachable... I'm gonna take a few minutes & type out those files into pastebin & contact u shortly w/ the url
[00:22] <wols> Garath531: please don't abuse the bot
[00:22] <Lyco> hey ConstyXIV, long time no see
[00:22] <dessnr> hmm, what am i doing wrong?
[00:22] <musikgoat> Lyco: look at gparted
[00:22] <l21logan99> any ideas?
[00:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[00:22] <Bjornalf> anyone know how to move the datastore for a mysql database? mine filled up my root partition and now won't start
[00:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:22] <wols> l21logan99: I asked you something
[00:22] <l21logan99> the chipset is 	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.13.1)
[00:22] <dessnr> nickrud: thanks mate.
[00:22] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: it will be whichever like /dev/sda that has ntfs on it that is the primary disk
[00:22] <wols> l21logan99: bcm43xx
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart
[00:23] <Spzatt> It did not continue
[00:23] <wols> !bcm43xx | l21logan99
[00:23] <ubotu> l21logan99: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:23] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: so do I wanna install the bootloader (in this case GRUB) on the same drive that XP is on or that I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on?
[00:23] <jacob_> bcm43xx has to be blacklisted and install the driver with ndiswrapper
[00:23] <jacob_> it works on my laptop
[00:23] <wols> jacob_: you are mistaken
[00:23] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: in your case, on the XP disk
[00:23] <Slart> MacTheMad: I'm not sure it will change anything.. to me it looks like your settings are correct.. can't think of anything else that might be disturbing it.. well.. there's one thing.. I dualbooted, switched network cables and stuff.. and all of a sudden everything stopped working.. turned out I had confused the switch so much it just gave up.. had to power-cycle the switch.. then it worked
[00:23] <musikgoat> as that is primary
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart : it didnt continyue
[00:23] <Urim> hi wols, thank you for replying.. really appreciate offering your help.. i am installing ubuntu 7.10 on a toshiba satellite... i want to double boot it with winxp.. first i reformated my winxp.. created on partition.. used the default winxp home edition that comes with my toshiba laptop.. i downloaded Ubuntu 7.10.. i burned the CD.. i booted from CD.. checked it first.. no errors.. so i started installing.. i used the typical settings.. all was working fine.. 
[00:23] <jacob_> wols, i'm using it right now
[00:23] <l21logan99> thank you
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart : it didnt continue *
[00:24] <wols> !wfm | jacob_
[00:24] <ubotu> jacob_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[00:24] <Slart> Spzatt: ok.. what was the error-message again?
[00:24] <LycoLoco> ooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
[00:24] <Spzatt> dma: timeout waiting for MDA     (or mda timout waiting for dma)
[00:24] <jacob_> wols: on some laptops the driver is different so i can work on some but on others it wont
[00:24] <testuser> hi I do before 7.4 it is good work  after I download 7.10 and install but it is connect or update wizard or add-remove tools not connect work :(
[00:24] <MacTheMad> slart: well I haven't tried rebooting the router so let us see
[00:25] <wols> jacob_: I know, but do YOU know which one l21logan99 has?
[00:25] <jacob_> i have the files
[00:25] <jacob_> i can send it to him
[00:25] <Invert314> ubuntu won't boot
[00:25] <Invert314> for error mesage at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644810
[00:25] <Slart> Spzatt: can you find out which one it was?
[00:25] <Bjornalf> better qiuestion how do i find what files are eating up 100+ gigs of space?
[00:25] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: disk usage analyzer?
[00:26] <jacob_> or her
[00:26] <musikgoat> applications -> accessories -> DUA
[00:26] <Bjornalf> oh.. forgot to mention running ubuntu server so no GUI
[00:26] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: ooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
[00:26] <jacob_> to black list it go to the terminal and type gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:26] <jacob_> at the end of the file add a new line and put blacklist bcm43xx
[00:27] <Johnson_> anyone here have the 200 dollar everex?
[00:27] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: maybe... XP could have its bootloader on SDA, but you won't find out till you try
[00:27] <jacob_> before doing that you need the files
[00:27] <Usiu> Hi
[00:27] <Spzatt> uh i gotta get back then
[00:27] <Spzatt> and restart
[00:27] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: didn't you install the grub bootloader on the ubuntu disk already?
[00:27] <Spzatt> it was DMA
[00:27] <wols> XP can boot from sdb IF it was installed that way
[00:27] <Usiu> how to make such a nice bottom Mac like menu bar /
[00:27] <jacob_> after blacklisting the driver, restart the computer
[00:27] <Usiu> under gnome
[00:27] <Spzatt> slart : hda : timeout waiting for DMA
[00:27] <Zaerath> I am getting the error on boot:
[00:27] <Zaerath> siocsifaddr: no such device
[00:27] <Zaerath> Anyone have any solutions?
[00:27] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: I'm sitting in the LiveCD now trying to make sure that I got everything set up right this time.
[00:27] <nickrud> shadowblade, sorry, still here
[00:28] <wols> Zaerath: sudo ifconfig -a
[00:28] <jshriver> in dosbox how can you eject or remount another floppy image?
[00:28] <shadowblade> nickrud: np
[00:28] <LycoLoco> I was thinking it was Grub that was having issues, so I formatted the partition and am starting from scratch this time
[00:28] <MacTheMad> slart: didn't work however I just ran ifconfig only forgot to type eth0 after and below the entry for eth0 theres another entry for lo... could that be the problem?
[00:28] <musikgoat> ok LycoLoco when you installed the first time, did you follow the general instructions?
[00:28] <Zaerath> wols: That only displays lo, and ifconfig eth0 tells me the device cannot be found.
[00:28] <Bjornalf> musikgoat: so is there a CLI way to find large files?
[00:28] <Usiu> ?
[00:28] <Slart> Spzatt: ah.. googling
[00:28] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: ohh
[00:28] <Usiu> Where I can find nice shiny bottom icon bar ?
[00:28] <wols> Zaerath: then theris no driver loaded for your ethernet
[00:28] <Usiu> for gnome
[00:28] <Usiu> ?
[00:28] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: du
[00:28] <Slart> MacTheMad: nope.. that's just localhost.. your loopback interface.. just goes back to yourself
[00:28] <Urim> wols : xp won't boot if it was installed from toshiba-ms CD ? .. any trick or configuration i should do.. or no matter how hard i try .. it wouldn't work.. like some kind of limitation from MS
[00:28] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: du will help you show disk usage
[00:28] <Zaerath> wols: I figured that much; I just ran dist-upgrade today, and that was when it stopped working. Solutions?
[00:29] <shadowblade> nickrud: only a couple thing i still use windows for
[00:29] <Bjornalf> musikgoat: ahh ty i just couldn't remember that one
[00:29] <wols> Urim: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:29] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: yw
[00:29] <jacob_> who is having problems with their bcm43xx wireless driver?
[00:29] <wols> Zaerath: what NIC do you have?
[00:29] <spartacus> Hi. Has anyone managed to downgrade Gutsy to Xorg 7.1?
[00:29] <wols> spartacus: downgrades are not supported. why'd you want to do that?
[00:29] <Zaerath> wols: Some OnBoard crap, I'm unsure, this is just my server computer and the NIC worked before I did a dist upgrade (btw I'm running a 2.4 kernel).
[00:30] <wols> Zaerath: what version of ubuntu is this?
[00:30] <Spzatt> Slart any answer yet?
[00:30] <Slart> Spzatt: some people report success after disabling dma
[00:30] <Zaerath> wols: Debian, but the same arch, and Debain's support sucks.
[00:30] <Slart> Spzatt: but that seems like a rough solution..
[00:30] <Zaerath> wols: Every fix I have done for Ubuntu works great in Debian. ^_^
[00:30] <wols> Zaerath: you suck for asking in #ubuntu. ask in #debian. good day
[00:30] <testuser> how to fıx 7.10 connect and upgrade problems
[00:31] <Spzatt> Slart : How do i disable dma in recovery mode?
[00:31] <Usiu> ??????????????????
[00:31] <Usiu> Where I can find icon bar for gnome
[00:31] <spartacus> wols: because I've got ATI graphics, and the better tested FireGL release only supports up to Xorg 7.1
[00:31] <Usiu> Like the bottom one on this pictures http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OneBaaadMuthaShutYoMouth?content=71800
[00:31] <Usiu> any help?
[00:31] <wols> spartacus: as I said, not supported
[00:31] <theLichKing> hi
[00:32] <MacRafy> Need some help with the flash plugin in my 7.10 64bit Ubuntu. It don´t work in Firefox.
[00:32] <Slart> Spzatt: try using the boot option "ide=nodma"
[00:32] <wols> spartacus: and pretty useless too since all gutsy packages would depend on the newer Xorg packages
[00:32] <spartacus> darn
[00:32] <wols> MacRafy: there is no 64bit flash plugin
[00:32] <musikgoat> Usiu: isn't that a theme?  system -> preferences -> themes
[00:32] <wols> spartacus: what ati card is it?
[00:32] <Slart> Spzatt: when you boot.. press 'e' and add that to one of the lines there.. then boot using that
[00:32] <theLichKing> i installed the flashplayer-nonfree package but firefox still tells me that i need to install the flashplayer plugin... is installing that package enough or is there something else i gotta do?
[00:33] <Spzatt> slart : How do i do that?
[00:33] <musikgoat> sorry Usiu appearances
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, I am interested what application serves such a gnome-panel
[00:33] <mutable> hello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
[00:33] <Spzatt> slart : add it to startup command?
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, bottom pabel
[00:33] <nickrud> shadowblade, back for real now. Your grub looks good, has vista booted before?
[00:33] <wols> !flasissue | theLichKing
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flasissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <wols> !flashissue | theLichKing
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, its not a normal gnome panel
[00:33] <ubotu> theLichKing: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[00:33] <Slart> MacTheMad: sorry.. I can't think of any more reasons why you wouldn't be able to ping your gateway.. ask the channel again.. perhaps they have some more ideas to try
[00:33] <theLichKing> oh
[00:33] <FlareMage> hi i'm a limited vision ubuntu user and i'm looking for a good mud client that is good with larger text sizes and doesn't spread off of the screen
[00:33] <musikgoat> Usiu: oh are you talking about the bottom part of the last picture?
[00:33] <Urim> wols:
[00:33] <Urim> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[00:33] <Urim> root            (hd0,1)
[00:33] <Urim> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro quiet splash
[00:33] <Urim> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:33] <Urim> quiet
[00:33] <FlareMage> terminal clients are ok
[00:33] <Urim> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
[00:33] <Urim> root            (hd0,1)
[00:33] <Urim> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro single
[00:34] <Urim> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, yeeees
[00:34] <musikgoat> Usiu: that is AWN avant-window-navigator
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks! :)
[00:34] <musikgoat> Usiu: that is modified a bit, but its nice
[00:34] <wols> Urim: I told you p PASTEBIN, not to spam the channel!
[00:34] <Slart> Spzatt: when you get to grub.. ie where you select which kernel to run.. there are usually the current one and the one with "recovery mode".. press e when the top one is selected
[00:34] <wols> !paste | Urim
[00:34] <ubotu> Urim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <musikgoat> it requires compositing effects usiu
[00:34] <Spzatt> Ok.
[00:34] <theLichKing> wols: you think it will work if i install it through the firefox plugin manager?
[00:34] <Spzatt> Then add what you said?
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, I use debian
[00:34] <shadowblade> nickrud: yea
[00:35] <Spzatt> The top one = The normal or the recovery one?
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, and I didnt know how is this thing called :)
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: here's a thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9988
[00:35] <spartacus> wols: X1400
[00:35] <wols> MacRafy: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:35] <musikgoat> Usiu: as long as you install compiz or beryl, and that works, awn should work
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: the normal one
[00:35] <musikgoat> cool
[00:35] <Spzatt> Press E, then add what you said?
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, well I have working compiz-fusion
[00:35] <nickrud> shadowblade, then I'm clueless, it's usually a problem with windows not being on the first partition (I never install it otherwise). Sorry
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: yes
[00:35] <Spzatt> Ok, will do.
[00:35] <testuser> ???? hey ubuntu 7.10 not install new programs add/remove tools how to fix?
[00:35] <musikgoat> Usiu: have fun then
[00:35] <wols> MacTheMad: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks
[00:36] <musikgoat> wols: he cannot, he has no internet access
[00:36] <musikgoat> lol
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: can i just like rename and rearrange the partitions so vista is on sda1
[00:36] <Slart> Spzatt: not at the top.. but where it says "nosplash" or "vga=XXX" or..whatever options there are
[00:36] <wols> musikgoat: either he does or noe one can help. endo of story
[00:36] <Urim> sorryyyy :S
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: in gparted
[00:36] <wols> musikgoat: and there are ways. e.g. a usb stick
[00:36] <musikgoat> true
[00:36] <testuser> I do gedit modprobe.d vpi6 off firefox connect ok but system not normal runing
[00:36] <nickrud> shadowblade, not to my knowledge, no. Slart seems to know editing grub, maybe when he's done he can take a look
[00:36] <FlareMage> please pm me if anyone knows of a good mud client for ubuntu as i mentioned i'm limited vision and can't keep up with the chat room
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: ok
[00:37] <Slart> gaah.. I don't hang out with grub.. stop making accusations =)
[00:37] <shadowblade> nickrud: thanks for trying
[00:37] <nickrud> *seems, I always leave myself a cranny to sqeeze out ouf :)
[00:37] <wols> !tr´| testuser
[00:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr´ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:37] <wols> !tr | testuser
[00:37] <ubotu> testuser: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[00:38] <wols> shadowblade: if you do this the vista bootloader will be unhappy to say the least
[00:38] <jac1> why my laptop T43 always beep when it started, how I can stop it?
[00:38] <shadowblade> wols: .... will it work?
[00:38] <wols> shadowblade: I just told you. read
[00:39] <wols> jac1: beeping when exactly? beeping before grub menu shows?
[00:39] <shadowblade> wols: so what is it that will make it unhappy
[00:40] <wols> shadowblade: moving a partition so it changes device nodes
[00:40] <Slart> shadowblade: I think you can do some switching around to fool the windows loader, using grub
[00:40] <wols> possibly even move it on disk
[00:40] <wols> Slart: you can but it's bad. usually you don't need to
[00:40] <h-town> hi, what's the easiest and most painfree way to erase my vista partition so that i can devote my computer to ubuntu?
[00:40] <musikgoat> format
[00:40] <h-town> i have a dual vista and ubuntu going on
[00:40] <fsckr> does anyone know of another media application for linux other than mythtv?  I thought there was one in production but for the life of me can't remember the name
[00:40] <finchx6> format
[00:40] <wols> h-town: format the partitione xt3
[00:40] <shadowblade> wols: how exactly do i do it, i've never seen anything to actually change the number
[00:40] <Slart> wols: no.. it's more of a last resort.. I had to do it because I moved my hard drives around.. was the only way to make it work
[00:41] <musikgoat> finchx6: beat ya :-P
[00:41] <finchx6> lol
[00:41] <young> beep when the system boot was about to finished, more exactly is the process bar was at the end.
[00:41] <Fezzler> Update Manager shows 6 or so Samba-related files ready for updating, but clicking install does nothing.  Is there another way to update these files?
[00:41] <wols> shadowblade: tell me your problem again please
[00:41] <l21logan99> I need help again
[00:41] <Slart> shadowblade: what do you want to do?
[00:41] <h-town> format my vista partition, how do i absorb my two partitions together?
[00:41] <Slart> h-town: are there data on either of them?
[00:41] <warriorforgod> Has anybody successfully setup vnc-java and tight vnc to remote into a machine using a web browser in 64bit desktop?
[00:41] <h-town> is there a way with keeping all my ubuntu files?
[00:41] <h-town> yea
[00:41] <tiagoboldt> need _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
[00:41] <wols> h-town: boot from a live cd after you deleted te vista partition. then use gparted to resize your ubuntu one
[00:42] <finchx6> h: download a tool like the Ultimate Boot CD... it will let you format both of them and then merge them
[00:42] <shadowblade> wols: vista just doesnt load from grub...i arrow down to it, hit enter, get the cursor flashing at the top right of the screen for about 3 secs, and my computer restarts
[00:42] <wols> tiagoboldt: what chip?
[00:42] <l21logan99> im trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
[00:42] <wols> shadowblade: ask a windows channel
[00:42] <h-town> ah, so i can't get away with not formating my ubuntu partition then huh
[00:42] <tiagoboldt> wols, not sure :| lsusb: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[00:42] <rencore_> how can i view the widgets in gnome
[00:42] <wols> h-town: yes. if you have currently ubuntu installed
[00:42] <finchx6> you CAN, but its not the easiest way, like you requested.. heh
[00:43] <noelferreira> how can i export all my messages from all accounts of mozila-thunderbird from one computer to other computer?
[00:43] <musikgoat> h-town: i would backup everything before you attempt any resizing
[00:43] <Slart> shadowblade: I had to do something like this to make my xp partition boot properly "map             (hd0) (hd1)    ,  map             (hd1) (hd0)".. look it up in the grub manual
[00:43] <rencore_> im theming and wanna see all the widgets
[00:43] <h-town> it's a lot to back up :(
[00:43] <musikgoat> rencore_: i think you find them in a pixmaps folder
[00:43] <musikgoat> i cant remember where though
[00:44] <h-town> i figured i'd have to back everything up
[00:44] <rencore_> no there is a program but i forgot the name
[00:44] <musikgoat> h-town: just your home dir should be important
[00:44] <rencore_> and it has the buttons and sliders
[00:44] <finchx6> back it up or lose it, man..  unfortunately, those are your options...  yeah, they've got "non-destructive" programs for all of this, but honestly, I still don't trust them
[00:44] <rencore_> and i can see everything
[00:44] <musikgoat> oh sorry rencore_ i know not what you speak of
[00:44] <h-town> yea but i got like 60 gigs of stuff going on.. i was hoping i could take a short cut
[00:44] <delfi> hi everybody, i have installed ubuntustudio with gnome on my pc, and after some configuration, i've found that sometimes gnome gives me an error on startup like "cannot start gnome settings daemon". is this a common problm? what can i do?
[00:44] <wols> noelferreira: ls -l ~/.*  there will be a folder "mozilla" or "thunderbird or such
[00:44] <musikgoat> h-town: not reliably
[00:45] <l21logan99> m trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
[00:45] <noelferreira> wols, i just need to copy that folder ?
[00:45] <h-town> i see, thanks
[00:45] <finchx6> H: I lost 95gb of mp3s when switching over my older desktop machine..  lol
[00:46] <h-town> ouch
[00:46] <finchx6> yeah, luckily I'd backed them up on my newer desktop.
[00:46] <wols> l21logan99:it isn't needed, since it's already in the kernel that driver. you only need the broadcom firmware extracter from the windows driver
[00:46] <ronnie> finchx6: just format it@@
[00:46] <l21logan99> how do i do that?
[00:46] <Urim> Sorry Wols :$:$:$:$:$ is that the info u needed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49092/
[00:46] <finchx6> ronnie: huh?? I'm not the one asking what to do, I was trying to help h-town
[00:46] <mutable> hello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
[00:47] <musikgoat> hehe
[00:47] <ronnie> @@..
[00:47] <h-town> do i have to merge the drives.. couldn't i just format my vista partition and use it as a seperate partition like a storage closet?
[00:47] <musikgoat> yes h-town that would be fine
[00:47] <finchx6> yeah... just make sure its a linux file system and mount it
[00:47] <drumline> I have a server that has services that go down for 20 minutes periodically and I need to know of a way to monitor it.  What's the best way to monitor things like qmail, CPU, memory, etc?
[00:47] <wols> Urim: what does windows say?
[00:48] <wols> Urim: cause it looks alright if your windows is on sda1
[00:48] <askand> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html New atidriver released!!!
[00:48] <spartacus> askand, don't do it man
[00:48] <h-town> so execpt for formating it, is there anything i have to do to the partition to use it as storage, like some linux file structure magic or something
[00:48] <wols> askand: irrelevant and OT
[00:48] <pauliukas> drumline: SNMP using Cacti or something
[00:48] <askand> spartacus: oh why?
[00:48] <l21logan99> wols: how do i do what you suggest
[00:48] <wols> l21logan99: by useing the fwcutter
[00:48] <finchx6> h-town, it would be more stable and easier to access
[00:48] <drumline> pauliukas: sweet.  Cacti is a good one eh?   Is MRTG the same thing as Cacti?
[00:48] <spartacus> askand, because i just installed it :-( read the release notes...
[00:48] <finchx6> as opposed to leaving it NTFS
[00:48] <musikgoat> h-town gparted -> delete partition, and create new linux partition
[00:48] <l21logan99> wols: i installed it, how do i use it?
[00:49] <Torchwood> a (temporary we hope) fix for flashplayer-nonfree. you can download the fp9 archive from adobe and extract the last (9.0.48) version. it's a bit of a big archive, but that's adobe for you. http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp9_archive.zip
[00:49] <h-town> oh so gparted will do everything, sweet
[00:49] <Slart> drumline: I think there applications that monitor and send mail etc when something happens
[00:49] <musikgoat> h-town: yes
[00:49] <pauliukas> drumline: Pretty much, except Cacti looks nicer, is easily customizable and is easier to use.
[00:49] <h-town> can i do that from ubuntu or do i have to use my gparted cd and reboot
[00:49]  * Slart uses cacti
[00:49] <askand> spartacus: "no longer supports XFree86 4.3 or Linux Kernel 2.4" :O
[00:49] <pauliukas> But I think MRTG is more for doing it locally...
[00:49] <wols> by running it against the windows drivers for you card to extract the firmware. the wiki gave you the way to do it
[00:49] <musikgoat> h-town: you can do it in ubuntu
[00:49] <h-town> right on, thanks for your help
[00:49] <musikgoat> yw
[00:50] <spartacus> askand: "Connecting a display device that supports 1680x1050 to a system running Linux may result in a maximum display resolution of 1280x1024 only being available"
[00:50]  * spartacus is posting from 1280x1024 right now
[00:50] <MacTheMad> slart: still trying 2 solve problem on my own... checking settings says my interrupt for eth0 is 16... does ubuntu support interrupts that high?
[00:50] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes, I think it does
[00:50] <askand> spartacus:  oh ok
[00:50] <drumline> pauliukas: awesome.  Thanks dude!
[00:50] <pauliukas> np
[00:50] <askand> spartacus:  thanks for the warning mate
[00:50] <l21logan99> wols: i cant find how to do that
[00:51] <l21logan99> wols: excuse my stupidity please
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: huh.. I'm running 1680x1050 with gutsy
[00:51] <spartacus> Slart: with ATI 7.12 driver?
[00:51] <Joe_> Hey, I'm thinking about switching over to Ubuntu (from XP) and was wondering if ubuntu supports the broadcom BCM4318 chipset from the start?
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: ahh.. ati.. they always crash the good parties =)
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: I'm using nvidia
[00:51] <yubwyub> vad bestämmer vad som finns med i lägg till/ta bort, eller som man måste ta från Synaptic istället?
[00:51] <Urim> wols : windows says : error29: Disk Write Error(thanks for help)
[00:52] <musikgoat> Joe_: i think there are issues to start
[00:52] <Slart> !english | yubwyub
[00:52] <ubotu> yubwyub: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:52] <musikgoat> !bcm43xx
[00:52] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:52] <yubwyub> oups.. wrong tab :-}
[00:52] <spartacus> Slart: yup, and 7.11 supported 1680x1050! damn
[00:52] <Fezzler> How would I use "apt-get update" for Samba to update the program files.  Update Manager isn't working.
[00:52] <Slart> yubwyub: I think ubuntu (canonical) decides what goes in there..
[00:52] <yubwyub> aha. ok thanks
[00:52] <shigutso> When I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
[00:52] <askand> spartacus it wasnt a long time between 7.11 and 7.12...maybe we get another soon?
[00:53] <Fezzler> I asked in #Samba but they called me a clueless Ubuntu user and told me to get lost.  :)
[00:53] <Slart> spartacus: I thought the ati drivers were improving?
[00:53] <Jerr> so I have dual monitors working with the nvidia driver
[00:53] <Joe_> okay is it difficult to get it working as ive tried fedora core and debian etch and neither worked
[00:53] <Jerr> but, I can't get compiz working
[00:53] <nickrud> Jerr, what video chip?
[00:53] <finchx6> Joe: I did a quick google search and there are several forums saying they're having trouble with them
[00:53] <musikgoat> Joe_: i'm not speaking from experience, sorry
[00:53] <Jerr> nv 6800 gs
[00:53] <spartacus> askand: not long... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=4
[00:54] <spartacus> Slart, the packaging and integration has been.
[00:54] <Spzatt> Slart : didnt work
[00:54] <nickrud> oh, nvidia, don't use that. But, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then    restricted-manager  and installing the nvidia driver should do it
[00:54] <Joe_> ah okay, i realise there a pain to get working its just im a bit new to linux and cant get them working at all ive tried every tutorial out there and none seem to work
[00:54] <MacTheMad> slart: buddy stopped by & has him stumped too (only knows windows tho) and he's saying something about if all the cables on my network are type a and the one on this machine is type b... but again when I just booted same machine to windows I get a connection... same settings? I'm quite stumped & frustrated
[00:54] <warriorforgod> I need to get vnc access to my machine through a web browser.  Anybody know how to do this in 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:55] <spartacus> Slart, They even support building Ubuntu debs from the installer
[00:55] <Slart> Spzatt: same error?
[00:55] <Myrmidon> where are the programs saved at by default in xubuntu?
[00:55] <finchx6> Joe: I'm in the same boat with my laptops sound card...  lol
[00:55] <Myrmidon> cuz i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
[00:55] <musikgoat> Joe_: it seems it would be easier to just cough up the $30 or so for a decent atheros or ralink card
[00:55] <Jerr> nickrud: I'm using nvidia driver already
[00:55] <Urim> wols: windows is giving error 29:  Disk write error just right after i choose winxp in the OS menu choice... it doesn't reach a status bar or something.. just gives this and press any key to continue
[00:56] <nickrud> Jerr, does glxinfo | grep direct say yes?
[00:56] <Spzatt> yes
[00:56] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes.. we've checked the firewall.. we've checked the route table..we've checked ip-nbr etc.. I don't know what else to look at
[00:56] <Jerr> nickrud: yes
[00:56] <spartacus> warriorforgod, you'll probably need a host with a java vnc client applet, or something
[00:56] <Joe_> yeah i dont really have the money though, i bought a cheap etec wireless usb adapter for my desktop but that didnt work either, i couldnt even find out what chipset was in that
[00:57] <Slart> spartacus: ah.. sounds like it will be good once they get things together
[00:57] <shigutso> When I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
[00:57] <nickrud> Jerr, then system->prefs->appearance , last tab, you selected some effects?
[00:57] <musikgoat> Joe_: i understand that
[00:57] <Jerr> nickrud: yes and it couldnt do it
[00:57] <spartacus> warriorforgod, and of course, running vnc-server on your system
[00:57] <MacTheMad> slart: yeah, thanks... gonna call it a night & start again tomorrow... have a good one
[00:57] <Slart> Spzatt: well.. if that didn't work then I don't know what else to try.. try asking the channel again.. mention the exact error message
[00:57] <Slart> MacTheMad: you too.. good night
[00:57] <nickrud> Jerr, try typing  compiz --replace   in a terminal
[00:57] <Myrmidon> where are programs saved at by default?
[00:58] <preaction> Myrmidon, the executables are saved in /usr/bin, why?
[00:58] <nickrud> Myrmidon, in /etc/ , /usr/bin , /usr/share , a few others.   dpkg -L <packagename> will spit out all files & locations
[00:58] <Myrmidon> because i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
[00:58] <Jerr> nickrud: segfault
[00:58] <warriorforgod> spartacus: I am running vncserver and have a session running on display :1.  I also have port 5801 and 5901 forwarded to the machine on my router.  When I browse to the machine through a web broser I get page cannot be displayed.
[00:58] <Joe_> okay thanks anyway, im off now bye!
[00:58] <cowlikk> can anyone help me with some problems i am having
[00:59] <boobsbr> hi, i tried to configure my notbook to use my desktop's monitor and now everything is messed up
[00:59] <warriorforgod> spartacus: And nothing at all shows up in the log file.
[00:59] <Fezzler> Anyone else having trouble getting Update Manager to install Samba file updates?
[00:59] <nickrud> Jerr, so you have an install problem somehow, did you install anything but ubuntu stuff while trying to get this to work?
[00:59] <boobsbr> can't even get the screen app running
[00:59] <warriorforgod> spartacus: Also when I do a ps -ef | grep vnc I get nothing as well.
[00:59] <ogre> hey guys, what do i install to get ubutustudio stff from repos?
[00:59] <Jerr> nickrud: I didn't install anything I don't think
[01:00] <cowlikk> when i log out and try to log in i just get a peach screen and an arrow then nothing happens can anyone help me
[01:00] <nickrud> Fezzler, try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade , you should see some errors. It end of shift, my ride is leaving.
[01:00] <sainzeo> cowlikk: have you tried restarting your computer?
[01:00] <eugman> orge, have you done a seach for ubuntu studio package? I think there is one
[01:01] <cowlikk> yeah when i restart the computer it logs in and everything goes well but if i click log out and come back to log in then it dont work
[01:01] <sainzeo> cowlikk: is this on a fresh install?
[01:01] <oaki> hi
[01:02] <Jerr> I have a problem with compiz
[01:02] <cowlikk> yes just installed and installed nvidia driver
[01:02] <oaki> me too
[01:02] <Jerr> it segfaults
[01:02] <oaki> hmm
[01:02] <Jerr> The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'. (Details: serial 352 error_code 181 request_code 157 minor_code 8)
[01:02] <oaki> look at the name of the error or write the text on google search
[01:02] <oaki> and you will find the answer to your problem
[01:03] <finchx6> well, I was kind of sitting in here waiting for a good time to ask my question, but I was trying to get this working all yesterday evening and today during lunch.  I got a laptop thats using the STAC Sigmatel 9200 soundcard... which has some issues, and every how-to I try and follow, I can't get to work.  Theres a forum on it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614903 but it didn't help me any... infact, last night I was follow
[01:03] <oaki> sorry
[01:03] <Jerr> oaki: xinerama is the problem
[01:03] <oaki> I'm new to linis too
[01:04] <oaki> sorry
[01:04] <oaki> linux
[01:04] <spartacus> warriorforgod, sorry, it's not something i've actually set up myself. i'm as green as you are on that.
[01:04] <warriorforgod> spartacus: ok. thx anyway
[01:05] <oaki> linux is funny
[01:05] <oaki> and different of windows
[01:05] <oaki> :P
[01:05] <musikgoat> !enter
[01:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:05] <oaki> k
[01:05] <boobsbr> alright, i tried to set up my desktop monitor to work with my laptop and now the screen resolution is all messed up and i can't even run the screen and video card GUI configurer. how do i fix this? it is very annoying
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ogre: There is a channel for ubuntustudio
[01:06] <oaki> try to download the programs from add/remove application
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: can you boot to recovery mode..
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > oaki
[01:07] <Benalex> Hello all , Is there a program that lets me ping ranges of ips??
[01:07] <boobsbr> how do i get into recovery mode? the grub menu?
[01:07] <Mawbid> I have an X keyboard problem on Gutsy. With pc105 model and US layout, the key I expect to yield backslash or bar (keycode 51, left of enter, middle row) instead yields plus or asterisk (as it does with Icelandic layout, which I also use).
[01:07] <musikgoat> Benalex: nmap
[01:07] <CarlFK> what is the command to sync the date from a date server ?
[01:07] <LjL> Benalex: for IP in list-of-IPs ; do ping $IP ; done
[01:08] <LjL> !ntp > CarlFK    (CarlFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: yes if you can get to grub menu.. recovery mode... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    set card to vesa.. max res to 1024 to get back into gui
[01:08] <CarlFK> thanks
[01:08] <boobsbr> will try
[01:08] <Urim> if i use a winxp home edition from toshiba.. the recovery CD to install winxp ... does that cause any problem to winxp once i am done installing ubuntu ?
[01:08] <boobsbr> brb
[01:08] <Benalex> musikgoat: Thank you, LjL I prefere frontend programs :)
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: IF you have a backup and know the name... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to edit manually
[01:09] <tiagoboldt> need _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
[01:09] <musikgoat> Benalex: nmap -v -sP 192.168.0.0/16  is an example
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Urim: it will overwrite your grub menu and not let you into ubuntu
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > Urim
[01:10] <finchx6> tiago: it sees the card but isn't working???  Are you connecting to a secure network?? like with WEP for example?
[01:10] <Benalex> musikgoat: what 192.168.0.0/16 will scan?
[01:11] <musikgoat> 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.255.255 i believe
[01:11] <tretle> how do i fix broken packages?
[01:11] <musikgoat> what are you trying to ping Benalex
[01:11] <tretle> synaptic doesnt do the job
[01:11] <musikgoat> Benalex: the /16 is CIDR notation
[01:12] <tretle> using hardy
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: What have you done as far as changing your sources or using non-official repos
[01:12] <Benalex> I am trying to ping all pcs on my home network... 192.168.1.*
[01:12] <tretle> iv dont the dist upgrade
[01:12] <musikgoat> nmap -v -sP 192.168.1.0/24  then
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: that would be #Ubuntu+1
[01:12] <Urim> Jack_Sparrow: i installed winxp first from toshiba recovery disk.. then installed ubuntu 7.10... but i am not able to boot back to winxp getting error 29: disk write error... is that cuz the toshiba-ms disk is a recovery disk not installer
[01:12] <tretle> more active here usually isnt it?
[01:13] <musikgoat> tretle: 1126 people isn't active?
[01:13] <daedrik> anyone knows a good hardware store in europe, that dispatches to all europe ?
[01:13] <musikgoat> what cause its not 1400+ people like around gutsy release?
[01:13] <finchx6> uhm, apparently I need to update my alsa to the newest release 1.0.15...  can anyone walk me through this???
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Urim: can you get into ubuntu?
[01:14] <maybeway36> finchx6: why?
[01:14] <Torchwood> the 9.0.48 flashplugin-nonfree - http://rapidshare.com/files/77997350/install_flash_player_9_0_48_linux.tar.gz.html
[01:14] <finchx6> because my laptop's soundcard (Sigmatel STAC9200) isn't supported by earlier versions, and I have no sound  :[
[01:15] <maybeway36> are you on gutsy?
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: Yes it is more active here.. but questions and problems with the future release/version belong in that channel
[01:15] <finchx6> not on THIS computer, but its on my laptop right beside me
[01:15] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to chat with more than one person using pidgin and yahoo?
[01:15] <maybeway36> hmm...
[01:16] <sainzeo> shane2peru: like a group/conference chat?
[01:16] <maybeway36> finchx6: try enabling backports
[01:16] <musikgoat> shane2peru: i don't think you can cross clients in a chat
[01:16] <maybeway36> not sure if it's there or not
[01:16] <Torchwood> shane2peru: just double click on their names. a seperate tab will open for each one
[01:16] <shane2peru> sainzeo: yes
[01:16] <finchx6> I've found several forums that walk you through how to get this sound card working, but I can't get them to work for me.  I'm a bit a noob, unfortunately
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Torchwood: great show.. but why did you post the link?
[01:17] <Torchwood> Jack_Sparrow: cos 9.0.115 is broken and they've stopped supplying (the working) 9.0.48
[01:17] <shane2peru> Torchwood: is there any way to have them all in the same tab?
[01:17] <shane2peru> Torchwood: kind of like here?
[01:17] <Torchwood> shane2peru: don't think so. don't know. maybe one of the plugins
[01:18] <musikgoat> shane2peru: have you tried the join chat option in buddies list?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Torchwood: The problem is.. that still does not work for people using opera and others.. just firefox.. and when the fix comes down.. doing that could cause them real problems
[01:18] <lastelement1> has anyone been able to set up RipIt4Me in wine and get it too function?
[01:18] <Torgoton> bazhang, you around?
[01:18] <shane2peru> musikgoat: ahh, I overlooked that
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: we tend to use k9copy to rip dvd's...  You might try in #winehq
[01:19] <lastelement1> jack_sparrow does k9copy work in the same/similar manner?
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: yes  rip down sized to single layer etc..
[01:21] <shane__> musikgoat, I don't think that worked.
[01:21] <lastelement1> jack_sparrow does it also burn the disk following the rip or do i need other software?
[01:21] <Torchwood> Jack_Sparrow: to uninstall : find /usr/lib/ -name "libflashplayer.so" -delete. it's a hack, but i want working flash so i'm gonna use it. it's just the adobe manual installer. the gutsy .deb simply downloads v115 and unpacks it to the same place
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[01:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:21] <musikgoat> shane__: #pidgin can verify if yahoo chatrooms are supported by pidgin
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: check it out.. it is in the repos
[01:22] <shane__> musikgoat, I think I got it
[01:22] <musikgoat> used add a chat.. instead?
[01:22] <shane__> the other person was invisible so it didn't give me the option
[01:22] <musikgoat> oh
[01:23] <Torchwood> later dudes
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> later
[01:23] <ryancr> I could use some help with my atl1 network card driver, i am getting an ip etc but I can not get anywhere no ping etc
[01:23] <arubin> is it relatively simple to install Ubuntu without an traces of X?
[01:23] <brophat> bought a linksys wireless nic but it is not connecting to the lan
[01:23] <Pelo> running away from me Jack_Sparrow ?
[01:23] <maybeway36> arubin: yes - use "Install a command-line system"
[01:23] <maybeway36> on the alternate cd
[01:23] <arubin> maybeway36: thank you
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Howdy.. nope
[01:23] <Pelo> arubin, use the alternate install cd and use the minimal install option or something similar
[01:24] <arubin> I'm just investigating options at the moment
[01:24] <arubin> long time FreeBSD user
[01:24] <boobsbr> jack! thank you, it worked!
[01:24] <{Nathan}> I need to set ~/bin in my path so I can put my own scripts and such in my path safely. How can I do this (.bashrc?)
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Just waving goodbye to torchwood
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: glad to hear it..
[01:24] <boobsbr> i was going mad, and i could hear cthulhu calling me and telling me to switch to vista...
[01:24] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  personnaly I can'T wait for torchwood to start again
[01:24] <Perff> hi all
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: You might want to write that down..
[01:25] <Perff> I have a question. How do I install grub in ubuntu, if I don't have stage1 file?
[01:25] <boobsbr> never going to forget
[01:25] <{Nathan}> Perff: download it. Or run grubinstall
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I have them all on tivo.. as well as Dr Who...  which I am watching now... sorry all for the ot
[01:25] <boobsbr> need to write down a reminder to learn the dpkg tool
[01:25] <Pelo> Perff, grub should have been installed with ubuntu
[01:25] <shane__> musikgoat, ok, when I invite them to chat nothing happens. :)
[01:25] <magnetron> !grub > Perff
[01:25] <{Nathan}> boobsbr: dpkg is _really_ easy
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: good idea to have a backup as well
[01:25] <Perff> somehow gutsy installer screwed
[01:26] <shane__> musikgoat, or join in chat
[01:26] <musikgoat> hmm shane__ past that, i'm out of ideas, the pidgin channel may have a better answer for you
[01:26] <boobsbr> now, 1 more thing, why is fsck eating 2 minutes of my life every time i boot the laptop?
[01:27] <shane__> what is that channel musikgoat
[01:27] <musikgoat>  /j #pidgin
[01:27] <shane__> musikgoat, thanks
[01:28] <warriorforgod> I have a webserver running and my isp blocks port 80, so I have apache listen on 81.  Is there anyway I can make it so people don't have to type :81 at the end of the address?
[01:28] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:28] <Perff> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[01:28] <Perff> hmmm
[01:28] <magnetron> warriorforgod: no. your ISP is effectively stopping that.
[01:29] <Pelo> Perff, try  sudo grub-install hd0
[01:29] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:29] <Perff> Pelo,  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:29] <Perff> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[01:29] <Perff>  sudo grub-install hd0
[01:29] <Perff> /dev/sda10 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:29] <Perff> o
[01:29] <Perff> the same
[01:29] <Tomterer> warriorforgod seriously. CHANGE ISP if they harrass you like that
[01:29] <warriorforgod> Tomterer: Only other thing around here is DLS which I don't want.
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff, grub uses another skeem to identify hardrives   hd0 = sda
[01:30] <warriorforgod> s/DLS/DSL/g
[01:30] <Tomterer> but you can get a blabla.no-ip.com address that will transparently connect to your port 81
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, and?
[01:30] <Perff> both ways don't work
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff, hd0,0 = sda1
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, i know that
[01:30] <{Nathan}> warriorforgod: I think you could get dyndns to do the same.
[01:30] <Tomterer> (and no-ip.com addresses are free warriorforgod)
[01:30] <musikgoat> yeah Tomterer? i didn't know they can do that
[01:30] <Tomterer> yeah exactly {Nathan}
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, i know that scheme, but I don't know how to make grub fix my boot
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff,  my mistake I missread your second post
[01:30] <musikgoat> nice
[01:31] <wols> Perff: what is in your /boot/grub/device.map
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> hello.  I have a toshiba m115 here that suddenly stopped being able to hibernate properly after upgrading to Gutsy.  It worked fine in Feisty and worked for a little while using the old kernel, but now the older 2.6.20 kernel won't boot.  If I select 'suspend' from the 'log out' dialogue, it does a bit of the process, turns off the screen, then hangs with the computer still 'on'.  This runs down the battery and the only
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> way to continue is to to a hard reboot.
[01:31] <Perff> wols it's empty
[01:31] <Pelo> Perff, get the supergrub cd and do it from te menues
[01:31] <Tomterer> unless I'm delusional atm they can musikgoat :)
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone have any ideas for figuring out how to fix this?
[01:31] <Perff> Pelo, what's that?
[01:31] <wols> Perff: (hd0) /dev/sda  then
[01:31] <Perff> wols,  sudo grub-install (hd0) /dev/sda
[01:31] <Perff> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[01:32] <wols> Perff: I meant in your device.map, not grub-install
[01:32] <Pelo> Perff, a boot cd to fix stuff in grub,  it has a menu system ( of sorts ) that will perform various task for you , like isntalling stage 1 and specifying where stage 2 is etc
[01:32] <nickrud> Jerr, still here?
[01:33] <Perff> wols, nice.. now
[01:33] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:33] <Perff> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[01:33] <Perff> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[01:33] <Perff> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[01:33] <Perff> can be ignored.
[01:33] <Perff> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
[01:33] <Shirakawasuna> *poke poke*
[01:33] <shane__> ok, how about using Kopete and yahoo and a conference?
[01:33] <Pelo> Perff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[01:33] <Perff> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:33] <Perff> This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
[01:33] <Perff> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[01:33] <Perff> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[01:33] <kyu_flux> you guys probably get this all the time, but I want to connect to a vista share anonymously (guest)
[01:34]  * magnetron pokes Shirakawasuna
[01:34] <Pelo> !pastebin | Perff
[01:34] <ubotu> Perff: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <kyu_flux> what I see is how to make it to connect using a specific account - how do you do this with guest?
[01:34] <Pelo> Perff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[01:34] <keithclark> Hi everyone!  Glad to report that Ubuntu installed on my laptop with no issues.  Even the ATI and Broadcom work!
[01:34] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: fix this computer!
[01:34] <magnetron> !attitude > Shirakawasuna
[01:35] <Perff> Pelo, thx, i'll try
[01:35] <keithclark> Now, I just have I last question.  How to enable Compiz?
[01:35] <Pelo> keithclark, congrasulations
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[01:35] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:35] <keithclark> Thanks Pelo.
[01:35] <Pelo> keithclark, menu > system > prefs > appearance,  last tab
[01:36] <Perff> Pelo, is it possible to run it just supergrub as it is, or i should burn a cd? strange..
[01:36] <Shirakawasuna> what are the chances of using a 2.6.23 kernel in ubuntu without compiling?
[01:36] <wols> Shirakawasuna: nil?
[01:36] <keithclark> Pelo, says it is not available.
[01:36] <nickrud> keithclark, run  restricted-manager , enable ati restricted. Then   sudo modprobe fglrx  . Log out, log in.   fglrxinfo , be sure you are using ati driver 8.37.6 .   sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl emerald compizconfig-settings-manager , logout , login
[01:36] <Pelo> Perff, supergrub is a boot cd but I guess you can try and unpack the image to a usb flash drive if you know how to boot from one
[01:36] <Shirakawasuna> darn non-rolling-release distro
[01:37] <Pelo> keithclark, you might need to insall opengl support,  not quite sure how,  try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:37] <keithclark> Pelo, thanks....I'll look into that.
[01:37] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: how much ram and swap do you have?
[01:38] <Shirakawasuna> lemme check
[01:38] <Perff> Pelo, it's too complicated.. no simpler way? :(
[01:38] <{Nathan}> How do I set ~/bin into my path on startup? I'm guessing it's in .bashrc.
[01:38] <Pelo> Perff, just burn to a cd and boot from it
[01:38] <Perff> i don't need windows and stuff, i just want to fix stage1 and menu.lst and so on
[01:38] <Perff> Pelo, where could i find a cdddd
[01:38] <Perff> at 2AM
[01:38] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: looks like ~450 M ram and 1.3 G swap
[01:39] <Pelo> Perff, sigh
[01:39] <wols> Perff: do you use a xfs filesystem?
[01:39] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: this occurs with nothing but the default desktop loaded
[01:39] <Shirakawasuna> (GNOME)
[01:39] <Perff> wols ext3
[01:39] <musikgoat> {Nathan}: add this to .bashrc  export PATH =$PATH:/new/path/to/add:/other/new/path
[01:39] <Pelo> Perff, make a small partition on your hdd and unpack the iso to it , then boot from that
[01:39] <qwaz> I have fetchmail set as a cron job to check my work email every 5 minutes. However, I'm getting mail from cron telling me that it did it's job.Is there a way to stop this?
[01:39] <Perff> Pelo, how could I boot from that partition?
[01:39] <Pelo> qwaz, lol
[01:40] <Shirakawasuna> I'm trying to figure out some ways to determine the problem, but I'm fairly sure it's just this kernel version
[01:40] <wols> Perff: I don't see any error in the outpu you pasted here. are you sure it hasn't installed properly?
[01:40] <musikgoat> {Nathan}: then logout and login, and test with $PATH
[01:40] <qwaz> Pelo: am I an idiot?
[01:40] <Pelo> Perff, nevermind , I ugess i'm an idiot
[01:40] <gvsa123> if i download and install unrar from synaptics, it doesn't add an additional program right? it justs adds to ubuntu's default archive manager, the ability to handle rar files?
[01:40] <Shirakawasuna> and waiting 4 months doesn't sound so great
[01:40] <wols> qwaz: run fetchmail as a daemon
[01:40] <Moult> Can somebody help teach me how to install apps (not in add/remove app program) i'm new to ubuntu
[01:40] <Pelo> qwaz, no, just a realy cute cunnundrum
[01:40] <musikgoat> gvsa123: it installs unrar
[01:40] <nickrud> qwaz, add   > /dev/null at the end of your cron fetchmail invocation, that will dump it into a bit bucket
[01:40] <gvsa123> Moult: use synaptics
[01:40] <qwaz> wols: I would prefer to run it as a cron
[01:40] <Perff> wols: hmmm... i guess i have to reboot to check?
[01:40] <tretle> hey.... does anyone know why upnp isnt working in rhythmbox?
[01:40] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: there there are a lot of different laptop models out there, and almost everyone implement their "suspend"-feature differently. so a lot of laptop owners are facing the same problem as you.
[01:40] <musikgoat> gvsa123: which works with ubuntu's archive manager
[01:40] <Perff> or is there any other way? :)
[01:41] <wols> qwaz: and usually cron mails if there was an error with the cronjob, not otherwise
[01:41] <nickrud> qwaz, if you have an error, you should get a mail telling you
[01:41] <Pelo> Moult, what kind of file do you have to instal from ?
[01:41] <mongo1> im trying to connect to my home network but i dont know where to input my information
[01:41] <mongo1> wireless network
[01:41] <qwaz> wols: I was getting an email from cron saying "8 new messages for bla bla"
[01:41] <qwaz> nickrud: Thanks man
[01:41] <Pelo> mongo1, menu > system > admin > network I guess
[01:41] <snkmad> how do i know what nvidia driver version i have installed here?
[01:41] <Perff> wols thanks i'll try to reboot now...
[01:41] <gvsa123> musikgoat: then i can simply right click on a rar file and choose open with archive manager and it'll work just like any other archive
[01:41] <ipx_laptop> Is it possible that the latest linux kernel that came in the update manager of ubuntu gutsy gibbon broke my sound drivers?
[01:41] <musikgoat> gvsa123: yes
[01:41] <wols> snkmad: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[01:41] <nickrud> qwaz, although wols 's advice about running it as a daemon is a better idea
[01:41] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: if you check the ubuntu wiki though, there MAY be info about your model and its linux support
[01:42] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: yes.  I remember finding once that it had to do with the 2.6.22 version, but now I can no longer find that page.  I belive it specifically affected radeon x200m laptops, but not positive.
[01:42] <Pelo> Moult, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:42] <mongo1> is there any way for ubuntu to search for wireless networks in range?
[01:42] <kyu_flux> don't see it in the FAQ - how do I connect to an anonymous vista share?
[01:42] <gvsa123> musikgoat: thanks
[01:42] <qwaz> nickrud: I had "fetchmail $> /dev/null" was the $ not needed?
[01:42] <wols> kyu_flux: iwlist for example
[01:42] <snkmad> wols thx
[01:42] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: I think I'm going to try compiling a 2.6.23 kernel first.  Will I break a whole lot of things that way, like ndiswrapper and the radeon driver?
[01:42] <qwaz> wols: Why is running fetchmail as a daemon a better solution?
[01:42] <mongo1> Pelo: do i want to enable "Roaming Mode" or no?
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: fglrx, really
[01:43] <nickrud> qwaz, no
[01:43] <wols> qwaz: cause it was designed for it
[01:43] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: i don't knom
[01:43] <kyu_flux> wols: iwlist - how is wireless related to it?
[01:43] <musikgoat> mongo1: you are trying to file share?  i don't think that menu is going to help
[01:43] <nickrud> qwaz, that is, no you don't want the $ :)
[01:43] <Pelo> mongo1, wireless  I think you want to yes, but I am not an expert on this
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> I'd think they would break
[01:43] <wols> kyu_flux: have you checked what iwlist is?
[01:43] <qwaz> nickrud: Gotcha
[01:43] <mongo1> no im not trying to file share just trying to connect to my home wireless network
[01:43] <gvsa123> musikgoat: so which is better? the free or non-free of unrar?
[01:44] <kyu_flux> man iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
[01:44] <wols> gvsa123: morally or technically?
[01:44] <Pelo> mongo1, did you mean you want to be able to connect to the other computers on your home network ? I think you need to use samba for that but again , not an expert
[01:44] <tretle> anyone know how to get the upnp plugin in rhythmbox working?
[01:44] <gvsa123> wols: lol... technically.
[01:44] <musikgoat> good question, i think i have both installed, i think either one works with archive manager for what you are looking for
[01:44] <jorge__> r irc.cl
[01:44] <mongo1> no i just wanna connect to my router so i can connect to the internet
[01:44] <Pelo> !wifi | mongo1
[01:44] <ubotu> mongo1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:45] <gvsa123> musikgoat: i see...
[01:45] <gvsa123> <examines conscience>
[01:45] <wols> mongo1: roaming mode is iirc unencrypted
[01:45] <kyu_flux> wols: man iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
[01:45] <mongo1> i dont know what that means
[01:45] <wols> kyu_flux: yes
[01:45] <Pelo> gvsa123, just sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[01:45] <kyu_flux> wols: i'm not using wireless
[01:45] <musikgoat> roaming mode, from what i've seen, allows network manager to manage it
[01:45] <nickrud> nicely even
[01:45] <Pelo> mongo1, iirc = if I recall correctly
[01:46] <kyu_flux> wols: all wired
[01:46] <ipx_laptop> The new update linux kernel broke my sound! No sound card in asoundconf anymore :(
[01:46] <wols> kyu_flux: sorry then I mxed up the nicks
[01:46] <kyu_flux> wols: np
[01:46] <gvsa123> Pelo: hmmm... but i don't think i need the rar capability... what's with the different archiving format anyway
[01:46] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, review the sound stuff first
[01:46] <Pelo> !sound | ipx_laptop
[01:46] <ubotu> ipx_laptop: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:46] <Pelo> gvsa123, everyone wants their fav
[01:46] <qwaz> is it normail for the amount of time Mutt says "Sending mail" to be around 30-40 seconds?
[01:47] <wols> kyu_flux: smbmount takes a "guest" option which doesn't prompt for a passwd
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: sorry i was afk
[01:47] <qwaz> normal...i've got mail on the brain
[01:47] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: thx
[01:47] <Cr3ature> i don't see Ubuntu users doing this: riradio pitää asentaa
[01:47] <ipx_laptop> will look em through
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: ok i want to install this thing  http://www.vim.org/download.p
[01:47] <wols> qwaz: depends on mail sizw and badnwith to the MTA
[01:47] <mongo1> Pelo: I found this thread but i dont know what its saying to do... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: sorry wrong link http://www.vim.org/download.php
[01:47] <cowlikk> when i log out and come back to log in i just get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and thats all that happens
[01:47] <qwaz> wols: This was just a test message
[01:47] <nickrud> Cr3ature, wrong channel, I'm sure the do in another language
[01:47] <musikgoat> gvsa123: alot of people fight about whats better, rar compression or 7lza or whatever it is
[01:47] <Pelo> mongo1, did you check the links ubotu gave you first ?
[01:47] <qwaz> wols: MTA is sendmail
[01:47] <wols> qwaz: why?
[01:48] <Pelo> Moult, vim is already in the repos
[01:48] <Moult> Pelo: i want to learn more about linux, and i thought by learning how to compile/install manually programs was a good start
[01:48] <mongo1> Pelo: ya thats what lead me to that link.
[01:48] <cowlikk> so when i am in the peach screen and nothing happens i do ctrl+alt+f5 and do a ps ax and the last thing on that list is gnome-screensaver but the screen saver works fine when i am loged in correctly
[01:48] <musikgoat> Moult: isn't vim installed by default?
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: ? because im a noob
[01:48] <Pelo> Moult,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:48] <cowlikk> can anyone helpme
[01:48] <gvsa123> Pelo: musikgoat: so what's the "default" or preferred archiving format for ubuntu? is there?
[01:48] <wols> qwaz: especially when you are a noob you should NEVER use sendmail
[01:48] <Pelo> mongo1, give me a minute to read the link
[01:48] <wols> dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: im a noob, but not a dumb noob
[01:48] <mongo1> Pelo: ok, thanks alot mucho appreciated.
[01:48] <Pelo> gvsa123, tarball,  they are already availalbe by default
[01:48] <Moult> musikgoat: i do not see any Vim
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: the sendmail configuration made plenty of sense
[01:49] <musikgoat> gvsa123: yeah tar.gz is common
[01:49] <Moult> Pelo: by the way what repository are you talkign about?
[01:49] <LycoLoco> hey guys - while I believe that ubuntu is now getting loaded from the bootloader properly, I'm now getting dumped into BusyBox 1.1.3 - anyone have any clue what would cause that? TTY1 just displays "Loading, please wait..." and TTY5 and 8 show BusyBox.
[01:49] <qwaz> wols: configured mutt, fetchmail and sendmail...im not stupid
[01:49] <wols> qwaz: I tend to disagree. what is the package name of the dpkg command I just told you?
[01:49] <Pelo> Moult,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[01:49] <musikgoat> gvsa123: tar creates on long file, and gzip or bzip2 are the popular linux compression formats
[01:49] <Mokilok> can someone please tell me what directory programs like Xchat are kept in my default, so i know where to put my Xchat plugins like obsidian?
[01:49] <gvsa123> Pelo: musikgoat: oh.... what about the variations in tar? .bz, gz, ezwizi... lol
[01:50] <nickrud> lol, anyone that gets mutt nicely configured is either masochistic or does have an idea
[01:50] <wols> LycoLoco: it couldn't find your / partition
[01:50] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh they;'re different format altogether
[01:50] <musikgoat> gvsa123: tar is separate from compressing, don't get them confused
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> is there an easy way to reinstall an old kernel?
[01:50] <Pelo> gvsa123, those are all supported natively in ubuntu,  stick with tar-gz for your own archiving I suggest seems to be the most common
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> perhaps a repo keeping legacy versions?
[01:50] <cowlikk> can anyon in here help me
[01:50] <kyu_flux> wols: thanks (I didn't get it to work yet) - it's amazing that I'd have to use smbmount when there's a perfectly good file browser)
[01:50] <qwaz> wols: you disagree with my assesment of my own intelligence? or you disagree with sendmail's config making sense?
[01:50] <wols> nickrud: if said person uses snedmail without a good reason pretty much narrows it down what he is
[01:50] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh tar doesn't compress?
[01:50] <musikgoat> the tar is just stringing all the files together into one file,  then, compressing it is the next step
[01:50] <LycoLoco> wols: good to know (seriously) - right now it's using ntldr instead of grub to load, so is there an easy way to get that to work instead of using ntldr?
[01:50] <kyu_flux> wols: but thanks for your help, i'll play around with this a little longer
[01:51] <Moult> Pelo: what is the use of this package manager?
[01:51] <wols> kyu_flux: not saying you can't do ti with the filebrowser
[01:51] <Pelo> mongo1, I suggest you just follow the instructions in tha tlink , the are a bit over my head
[01:51] <gvsa123> musikgoat: i see...
[01:51] <wols> LycoLoco: yes, install it
[01:51] <wols> it being grub that is
[01:51] <nickrud> wols, me, if I do local transport I use exim. Brain dead configuration (and I'll accept that appellation)
[01:51] <LycoLoco> already did
[01:51] <musikgoat> gvsa123:  the .extention  is just an extention... so you will see   filename.tar.gz  and you will see filename.tgz  which are the same
[01:51] <wols> qwaz: both
[01:51] <qwaz> wols: what makes you think I'm unintelligent?
[01:51] <mongo1> Pelo: :O if they're over your head then theyre certainly over mine ;( hmm maybe someone else can help
[01:51] <LycoLoco> wols: yeah, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and this is the same result that I've gotten 3 times over, sadly
[01:51] <wols> nickrud: I use postfix
[01:51] <Pelo> Moult,  add/remove and synaptic are both frontend for apt ,  where add/remove only shows you the applications,  synaptic shows you all the packages available, apps, libs,  scritps etc
[01:51] <sunogbaga> help.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
[01:51] <wols> qwaz: your use of MTA
[01:51] <qwaz> wols: I'm unintelligent because I used sendmail?
[01:52] <Moult> Pelo: oh ok thanks!
[01:52] <gvsa123> Moult: that's where you can find most if not all of the applications you would need in ubuntu
[01:52] <LycoLoco> wols: for some reason grub isn't taking priority over ntldr, and for the life of me I can't figure out why that would be
[01:52] <qwaz> wols: are you sure unintelligent means what you think it means?
[01:52] <kyu_flux> wols: any place you can refer me to to read on how to get it to work with the file browser?
[01:52] <wols> qwaz: It's still not sure what you use. cause every MTA on the planet has a sendmail wrapper
[01:52] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: been reading through and following the troubleshooting-guide now but im pretty sure its after the latest linux kernel update that came from the repos
[01:52] <qwaz> wols: Ok
[01:52] <wols> kyu_flux: I don't do gnome or GUI, sorry
[01:52] <eric> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some assistance on mounting a fat32 hdd
[01:52] <Pelo> mongo1, I suggest you skip the big intros and jump to the instructions, if you hit a snag , come back with a specific question
[01:52] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: you have any clue?
[01:52] <kyu_flux> wols: fair... thanks for your help =)
[01:52] <Pelo> Moult, did you check this our http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:52] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: you havent installd grup on MBR
[01:52] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: you havent installd grub on MBR
[01:52] <froek> any admins online?
[01:52] <musikgoat> eric do you know what the drive location is?
[01:53] <eric> yes Musikgoat
[01:53] <musikgoat> like /dev/sda or /dev/hda ?
[01:53] <sunogbaga> help.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
[01:53] <eric> /dev/sdb1
[01:53] <Perff> hi all again
[01:53] <Moult> Pelo: yes. i'm trying to learn how to install for example, a random program online for linux, therefore i have chosen vim to test it out
[01:53] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: then I'm not sure how to do that if the installer for ubuntu isn't doing that automatically. It's installing it to hd0, which I'm not sure if that's where my MBR is or not.
[01:53] <wols> sunogbaga: your nick being what kind?
[01:53] <musikgoat> mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
[01:53] <eric> it is a fat32 filesystem
[01:53] <qwaz> well, mail is going out, mailing lists are filtered and sorted, applicable ones are forwarded off to my blackberry
[01:53] <Moult> Pelo: now i'm confused as to which file i should download in the first place
[01:53] <ipx_laptop> How can I see my kernel version via the terminal easy?
[01:53] <qwaz> i must have just stumbled into all that
[01:53] <wols> ipx_laptop: uname -a
[01:53] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: I've got 3 HDDs, two SATA, one PATA, so I'm not sure which drive to point it to install grub onto, and just went with the default of HD0
[01:53] <ipx_laptop> thx
[01:53] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, I get the cause, but the fix should still be the same,  start with the basics and go from there,  if your say your card is not present you probably have to install it again, no idea how however
[01:53] <mongo1> Pelo: well i tried to download the offline file but it doesn't exist.
[01:53] <musikgoat> eric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat too
[01:54] <Perff> wols, I've rebooted, and now I'm screwed. There's just command-line of GRUB, no menu any more, so I can't even edit the options and manually boot.
[01:54] <wols> LycoLoco: what happens when you install grub? and how do you install it?
[01:54] <qwaz> good to see the old linux attitude is creeping its way into #ubuntu
[01:54] <struio> Hello, all time when I enter on my session/machine to do login, I see 'machine.(none)' how can I have only machine name without none? thanks.
[01:54] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: ok thx
[01:54] <Pelo> Moult, hold on
[01:54] <LycoLoco> wols: I'm just letting the ubuntu 7.10 installer do its thing, nothing special
[01:54] <wols> Perff: chroot into your system again.
[01:54] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: is grub installed in a different HDD?
[01:54] <Perff> wols: if I write root (hd0,9) and then setup (hd0), it works nicely, but next reboot I again get to commandline
[01:54] <Pelo> mongo1, hold on
[01:54] <Perff> it looks like I don't have menu.lst or something
[01:54] <Moult> Pelo: here is the link to the vim download site again http://www.vim.org/download.php
[01:54] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: i mean ubuntu.. is it installed in another hdd?
[01:54] <wols> Perff: what did you boot right now? the ubuntu install?
[01:54] <nickrud> qwaz, lol, we gotta have some curmudgeons , otherwise it's no fun
[01:55] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: I'm not sure, tbh. I'm not sure what the naming nomenclature of grub is, so I"m not sure if it's on teh same drive as ubuntu or not,
[01:55] <eric> sorry guys i got dropped, could you repeat the msdos mount script again?
[01:55] <Mokilok> can anyone who has a minute please tell me where i can find my installed programs like Xchat?
[01:55] <wols> nickrud: the curmudgeons are the sendmail users. they've been around much longer than us exim and psotfix folks
[01:55] <Perff> so i have to chat from my laptop :(
[01:55] <musikgoat> eric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat   instead
[01:55] <Pelo> Moult, join me in #pelo and wait for me a bit
[01:55] <wols> Mokilok: dpkg -L <package name> | grep bin
[01:55] <nickrud> Mokilok, in general , dpkg -L <pkgname> | grep /bin will show you the executables
[01:55] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: hehe look what i found :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3979768
[01:55] <eric> thank you, ill try that
[01:55] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: try rebooting your box.. each time trying a different hdd
[01:55] <wols> Perff: well?
[01:56] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, congrats,  bit busy atm but good luck with it
[01:56] <aolaus> hey how can I download an ogg codec?
[01:56] <ipx_laptop> =)
[01:56] <serenityUK> eric first make a dir such as /media/mountpoint
[01:56] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: you mean installing it to a different drive each time or booting from a different drive each time?
[01:56] <Perff> hey
[01:56] <musikgoat> thanks serenityUK
[01:56] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: boot at a different hdd each time you reboot
[01:56] <wols> Perff: do you want a menu.lst or not? if so answer my questions
[01:56] <Pelo> mongo1, accept the file , I am sending it to you right now
[01:56] <eric> I have my mount point set up
[01:56] <nickrud> wols, very true. I spend some time on the sendmail lists when I was doing lfs, moved on to postfix lists because I couldn't stand it
[01:56] <qwaz> nickrud: anyway, thanks for the /dev/null tip :)
[01:56] <LycoLoco> ok, I'll give that a shot, sunogbaga
[01:56] <eric> the error I keep getting is as follows
[01:56] <mongo1> Pelo: try again it was ignored
[01:56] <wols> sunogbaga: what NIC?
[01:56] <eric>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[01:56] <eric>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:56] <eric>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:56] <eric>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:56] <wols> !paste | eric
[01:56] <ubotu> eric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <eric> sorry
[01:57] <serenityUK> eric use   -t vfat   instead
[01:57] <sunogbaga> wols: i remember it was 3com when i first plugged it in
[01:57] <mongo1> :( failed
[01:57] <musikgoat> eric that sounds like its not fat32
[01:57] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: thanks for your help, hopefully I'll see ya on the other side : )
[01:57] <wols> sunogbaga: answer my question ins auseful manner please
[01:57] <mongo1> where did you get the file from and i'll go get it
[01:57] <LycoLoco> you too wols, thanks!
[01:57] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: np :P
[01:57] <eric> fdisk says that it is a fat32 win95 lba
[01:57] <eric> vfat doesnt work either
[01:57] <sunogbaga> wols: wait, i'll check the nic
[01:58] <gvsa123>  the archive manager still says that rar is not supported..... i got unrar free
[01:58] <qwaz> wols: dude...relax man...you're not getting paid for this
[01:58] <qwaz> wols: have some fun, that's why you're here...I would guess
[01:58] <eric> ive tried to mount as NTFS but that doesnt work either.  I have the hdd connected to a pci sata card.  would that interfere?
[01:58] <aolaus> hey
[01:58] <wols> eric: not with the filesystem
[01:58] <aolaus> neither mplayer or rhythmbox will play ogg
[01:58] <aolaus> any thoughts?
[01:59] <eric> On the live cd, the system mounts everything fine.
[01:59] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  are you still here?
[01:59] <mackarill> hi guys hope someone can  help me, iv just installed 7.10 on my laptop and in visual effects there is no custom option. I'm using a dell inspiron 6000 and it has share intel graphics.
[01:59] <shane2peru> aolaus, is your sound muted?
[01:59] <aolaus> I have the codec because audacity works
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Lurking
[01:59] <serenityUK> eric do you use gnome.. you can also mount via icon... goto places->computer and rightclick
[01:59] <musikgoat> gvsa123: did you try the nonfree version?
[01:59] <aolaus> I'm listening to dire straits on this editing program.. it's ghetto
[01:59] <sunogbaga> wols: yah, its 3com. ethernet adapter... i remember ubuntu recognizing it before I restarted
[01:59] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, sorry, had supper in there
[01:59] <nickrud> aolaus, that's very odd, neither use the same codes
[01:59] <eric> ok im here
[01:59] <aolaus> audacity imported the ogg just fine
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: np.. I was chatting in another channel...
[01:59] <musikgoat> eric  you got it?
[01:59] <gvsa123> musikgoat: not yet. this is not normal?
[01:59] <nickrud> *codecs
[01:59] <eric> hmm
[01:59] <underdawg> how do I change my administrator password?
[02:00] <underdawg> I'm not seeing it in Site menu
[02:00] <eric> what do i need to create?
[02:00] <wols> sunogbaga: still not answering my question. it's about as useful if i said I have a realtek NIC
[02:00] <shane2peru> aolaus, ok, try shutting all sound programs off, and then try and play them?  Sometimes the other sound programs take over the sound card.
[02:00] <aolaus> perhaps I don't have the "official" ubuntu codecs
[02:00] <musikgoat> gvsa, after i installed it, it worked fine...
[02:00] <underdawg> whoops
[02:00] <aolaus> oy, ok
[02:00] <l21logan99> wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
[02:00] <underdawg> wrong channel
[02:00] <Perff> wols: yep
[02:00] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow: do you have time to help me figure this Mcencoder thing?
[02:00] <aolaus> hoy, that worked
[02:00] <aolaus> thanks
[02:00] <eric> im in the computer, i right click, then what do i need to do?
[02:00] <aolaus> laters
[02:00] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh there.... i needed the nonfree... hmmm... i wonder why
[02:00] <musikgoat> gvsa123: try just installing unrar   not unrar-free
[02:00] <serenityUK> eric there should be mount volume in the menu.. it will ask for password
[02:01] <Perff> wols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
[02:01] <Perff> wols: and it boots into grub commandline
[02:01] <wols> Perff: either you give me the answer I asked you for, or you have to fix your problem on your own
[02:01] <aeGIs> jackster: You are too cool.
[02:01] <wols> what ahve you booted right NOW?
[02:01] <musikgoat> gvsa123: I'm not too sure why
[02:01] <jackster> aeGIs: why thankyou :)
[02:01] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh well... whichever works... :)
[02:01] <aeGIs> jackster: no problem
[02:01] <sunogbaga> wols: not really sure what youre saying.. however lspic gave me this Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)... but doesn't show up in network manager
[02:01] <nickrud> Perff, translated, that means he can't help you unless he gets useful information :)
[02:01] <aeGIs> Can anyone tell me how to make Ubuntu better?
[02:02] <eric> i dont see an option to mount a drive when i right click in the window for computer...
[02:02] <serenityUK> eric are you right clicking on the drive icon?
[02:02] <jackster> aeGIs: take a time machine into the future?
[02:02] <nickrud> aeGIs, join your area's locale team, work on the wiki, work with the doc team, become a master of the universe
[02:02] <Perff> wols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
[02:02] <Perff> wols?
[02:02] <eric> oh, for the sdb1?  it isnt showing up
[02:02] <jackster> meh, I still say go to the future
[02:02] <magnetron> aeGIs: are you saying you would like to contribute?
[02:02] <jackster> it's like the song, things can only get better :)
[02:02] <aeGIs> jackster: is there a deb for that?  apt-get ubuntu-time-machine
[02:03] <aeGIs> magnetron: No
[02:03] <eric> doesnt show an icon in the computer - file browser at all
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: ON the phone atm... that should not be hard.. wols or maybe pelo if you can catch him
[02:03] <aeGIs> I want the windows to stop being unresponsive when I open more than 4
[02:03] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, I'm going over to the coffee shop again
[02:03] <wols_> sunogbaga: 3c59x should be it
[02:03] <wols_> Perff: I asked you how you booted right now. either you tell me or fix your stuff yourself. good day
[02:03] <musikgoat> all we want to do is eat your brains...  we're not unreasonable, we wont eat your eyes...  jonathan coulton rocks
[02:03]  * |rat| says "Save the cheerleader, save the world!"
[02:03] <l21logan99> wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
[02:04] <wols_> l21logan99: there are errors
[02:04] <serenityUK> eric an empty window?  not even a CD icon and one saying filesystem?
[02:04] <aeGIs> oh, and bluetooth capabilities would be nice :)
[02:04]  * nickrud wants to be in |rat| 's movie
[02:04] <eric> i see two cd drives and a filesystem, but no second hdd icon
[02:04] <l21logan99> wols: i just cant seem to get anything to work
[02:05] <sunogbaga> wols_: how can I use it again? do i just need a reboot or something else?
[02:05] <Johnson> when i go to suspend for a long time, i log back in get an an errror message saying computer failed to "hibernate", and then the computer hibernates. any ideas how to fix this problem i have no settings on that tell my computer to hibernate it never should
[02:05] <wols_> l21logan99: you can't seem to make proper problem descriptions either
[02:05] <wols_> sunogbaga: modprobe it, if it then works put it in /etc/modules
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: me too... I worked on Attack of the Killer TOmaotes.. long ago...  can I join in..
[02:05] <h-town> hey i got a question about gparted
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> h-town: sure just ask
[02:05] <aeGIs> Sabra Hummus is awesome...  I just had the Pine Nuts version.  Tasty!
[02:06] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, absolutely, if |rat| will let us in
[02:06] <calm> Does anyone know when the Flash plugin installation will be fixed?
[02:06] <l21logan99> wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme siad, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was no valid
[02:06] <h-town> i'm trying to format my vista partition, so that I can use it as a storage partition and comit my pc to ubuntu
[02:06] <aeGIs> h-town: Dearly gparted, we are gathered here today to celebrate this thing we call life...
[02:06] <sunogbaga> wols_: ok
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> calm: No idea yet...
[02:06] <nickrud> calm, that is the 64 dollar question here
[02:06] <h-town> ha, that's funny
[02:06] <musikgoat> h-town: whats wrong?
[02:06] <aeGIs> Flash would be awesome!  It blows without it.
[02:06] <bmt2> hello to all
[02:07] <h-town> i'm just getting rid of windows
[02:07] <h-town> tired of it
[02:07] <bmt2> i am tryin to install LIVES....and it says I need gtk2.0
[02:07] <KNRO> Hello, I'm trying to port a package to Ubuntu, however, I'm having problem. I already have RPM, but need to release it for deb as well, anyone experience in packaing here can help me a bit?
[02:07] <h-town> so, in gparted, i've unmounted my windows partition, when I go to format it i have options
[02:07] <musikgoat> h-town: i remember,  whats wrong with what your are doing
[02:07] <wols_> h-town: you STILL haven't told us what the problem is you're having. will you ever?
[02:07] <bmt2> i thought i did using synaptic...but the ./configure for LIVES is giving me the same error
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Flash works, but just for firefox, and you run the risk of the real fix conflicting with the current workaround
[02:07] <musikgoat> !fs
[02:07] <bmt2> can anyone help !
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <chickenFuego> eric, you have a second hard drive, but you don't see it?
[02:07] <eric> yes
[02:07] <musikgoat> !filesystem
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Flannel> bmt2: Do you have build-essential installed?
[02:07]  * |rat| remember: "You cannot die McCloud, accept it!"
[02:07] <eric> correct.  its located at /dev/sdb1 according to fdisk
[02:07] <nickrud> aeGIs, run cfdisk, change the partition to Linux , then sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd(a1?)
[02:08] <chickenFuego> eric, please type "mount" in a console and paste the output in a pastebin.
[02:08] <bmt2> Flannel: no i do not...what is build-essential ?
[02:08] <wols_> bmt2: install the gkt2.0 dev package
[02:08] <Flannel> !offtopic > |rat|
[02:08] <Flannel> !compile | bmt2
[02:08] <ubotu> bmt2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:08] <h-town> well i have options for formating it, what do i select, so that it's ubuntu compatible but will be it's own partitions
[02:08] <h-town> partition
[02:08] <bmt2> wols_:can i apt-get install gtk2.0 dev package ?
[02:08] <aeGIs> jack_sp: But you don't have the functions...  like on xxxstash.com you can't make the videos go to full screen.
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> |rat|: It only takes ma an hour to get over to Hollywood/Burbank
 wols: yep
 wols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
 wols: and it boots into grub commandline
 wols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
 wols?
[02:08] <Flannel> bmt2: Its got gcc and all the standard libs and stuff (and then you'll need gtk as well)
[02:08] <wols_> h-town: ext3
[02:08] <musikgoat> h-town: ext3 is the most common but slow
[02:08] <wols_> bmt2: yes
[02:08] <NoorulIslaam> oh wow today's naruto is gonna be awesome :P
[02:08] <h-town> well my primary partition is already ext3
[02:08] <chickenFuego> eric: e.g. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:08] <wols_> Perff: you are here, hence you managed to boot _somthing_
[02:08] <musikgoat> h-town: xfs is faster, but less recoverable on hard shutdowns
[02:09] <bmt2> wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
[02:09] <|rat|> Flannel: sorry...
[02:09] <wols_> bmt2: I will NOT tell people how to use gtk
[02:09] <Flannel> h-town: That doesn't matter, you can have all of them ext3 if you want
[02:09] <Perff> wols no, I'm chatting with you from windows laptop
[02:09] <wols_> erm use apt-get
[02:09] <troythetechguy> I'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
[02:09] <bmt2> Flannel: can i apt-get install build-essentials ?
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: use the livecd then
[02:09] <Perff> wols: i can't boot any linux
[02:09] <calm> Ah. Oh well.
[02:09] <musikgoat> build-essential
[02:09] <Perff> wols: and?
[02:09] <Flannel> bmt2: apt-get install build-essential, yes.  no "s" on the end
[02:09] <h-town> ok i understand, i was worried that ext3 was like number 3 drive and they would merge
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: use it
[02:09] <Perff> wols: livecd CAN'T boot my hard drive linux
[02:09] <Perff> wols: and?
[02:09] <musikgoat> h-town: no, that wont happen
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: it doesn't need ot. you have a linux, it can mount the harddisk, it can chroot into it
[02:09] <h-town> great, well i'm going to go for it...
[02:09] <chickenFuego> eric?
[02:10] <Perff> wols: it will just take me to the same screen with command line of grub...
[02:10] <Perff> :(
[02:10] <bmt2> okay Flannel i am doing that now..thanks
[02:10] <bmt2> you seed that it gives me gcc...but what about gtk ?
[02:10] <wols_> Perff: the livecd will NOT do this. think before you type
[02:10] <bmt2> wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
[02:10] <Perff> wols: what is "chroot"?
[02:10] <l21logan99> wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme said, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was not valid
[02:10] <|rat|> sudo apt-get install gtk2?
[02:10] <wols_> Perff:  command.
[02:10] <wols_> !grub | Perff
[02:10] <ubotu> Perff: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:11] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49101/
[02:11] <eric> there ya go
[02:11] <bmt2> |rat|: is that all i have to do is : sudo apt-get install gtk2 ?
[02:11] <eric> shows both vfat and msdos
[02:11] <eric> and my fdisk -l
[02:11] <wols_> Perff: instead of running the grub-install in those howtos to install grub after you chrooted, simply run sudo update-grub and you have a menu.lst
[02:11] <Perff> wols i read all these docs, and i don't need windows
[02:11] <Perff> wols ok it looks like i need to find out what is chroot
[02:11] <wols_> Perff: but you need a menu.lst
[02:12] <wols_> chroot is a command
[02:12] <wols_> "change root" literally. changes /
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> I have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
[02:12] <Perff> wols: ok i'll try now
[02:12] <musikgoat> eric, is it possible that your fat32 is corrupted?
[02:12] <wols_> RenatoSilva: upgrading will work too
[02:12] <h-town> so i have 2 ext3 partitons plus a space of about 30 gigs unallocated, how do i merge the new ext3 partition with that unallocated space?
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> I have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
[02:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes
[02:12] <Perff> wols: thx
[02:12] <eric> i dont think so.  It shouldnt be.
[02:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, not required to backup home, but it's as good a time as any
[02:12] <|rat|> bmt2: is sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> wols_: I'm in a dialed conn
[02:13] <wols_> h-town: you don't. you resize the ext3 partition to encompass the unallocated space
[02:13] <chickenFuego> eric, did you try without the -t option?
[02:13] <h-town> ah, ok thanks
[02:13] <eric> no i didnt.  ill try that now
[02:13] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you can upgrade witht he CD too
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> RenatoSilva: That is gonna take awhile..
[02:13] <l21logan99> wols:????
[02:13] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: only if he has a 1x CD drive
[02:13] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: so I create a user with the same name and restore the /home/myuser and everything will work fine?
[02:13] <eric> that just gives me a lot of options
[02:13] <wols_> l21logan99: either you show us the errors you get or you fix your own problems. your choice
[02:13] <h-town> so if i resize it all the way it won't affect my original ubuntu partition? like in the window that pops up with a slider?
[02:13] <eric> if i dont include the -t
[02:14] <wols_> RenatoSilva: that is bass ackwards
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: No.. if he tries to upgrade with dialup
[02:14] <musikgoat> eric  mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
[02:14] <h-town> the slider represents all my free space? or all my total hard drive?
[02:14] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes. If you're reinstalling completely , you should consider making a /home partition.
[02:14] <RenatoSilva> wols_: upgrade from cd? it's a new feature of gutsy don't?
[02:14] <wols_> h-town: it shouldn't affect, but if you haven't backed up your stuff it's not important anyways
[02:15] <wols_> RenatoSilva: no it's not a new feature. it always wa there. always
[02:15] <eric> it tells me i must specifiy the file system type
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: try "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:15] <musikgoat> eric, oh well, worth a shot
[02:15] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: not necessary, I have just one user, is it possible to create a different user, restore and rename the profile?
[02:15] <l21logan99> wols: i get the error  No rule to make target `installfw'
[02:15]  * nickrud doesn't really trust the upgrade path anymore :(
[02:15] <h-town> well so far so good, thanks for the help guys
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: or "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:15] <wols_> l21logan99: what howto do you use?
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: or "mount -t FAT32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:16] <gvsa123> is there a way for ubuntu to tell you when you have minimized windows in other desktops when you are logging out or shutting down or whatever
[02:16] <wols_> chickenFuego: it would be -t vfat. which he already tried
[02:16] <l21logan99> wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
[02:16] <eric> it says maybe i ment vfat
[02:16] <RenatoSilva> wols_: that's funny because I never have noticed it tough desiring it so much. It happens when analysing the partitions right?
[02:16] <wols_> eric: dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=bootsector count=1 bs=512
[02:16] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes, you'll have to chown the files & dirs in your home, but easily doable
[02:16] <wols_> eric: then show us the result
[02:16] <l21logan99> wols:and i get that error
[02:16] <wols_> RenatoSilva: no
[02:16] <chickenFuego> please paste the output of "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows", It shouldn t give options as output..
[02:17] <serenityUK> eric try the eqivilent of scandisk....   sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[02:17] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[02:17] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you do not boot from the CD ever when upgrading
[02:17] <aeGIs> don't be a hater
[02:17] <nickrud> !upgrade | RenatoSilva
[02:17] <ubotu> RenatoSilva: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:17] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you ad the CD to your sources.list and do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all
[02:17] <musikgoat> chickenFuego: he used no t but still added the filesystem the first time, then corrected it
[02:17] <aeGIs> !stop unresponsive windows
[02:17] <RenatoSilva> wols_: hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:18] <gnychis> I added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
[02:18] <eric> wols -  permission denied
[02:18] <wols_> RenatoSilva: and that's supposed to tell me what?
[02:18] <l21logan99> ubotu: if you are speaking to me then i have already checked there and there is nothing about the problems i am having
[02:18] <wols_> eric: use sudo then
[02:18] <nickrud> gnychis, ________ isn't a command ;)
[02:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: hummm, what about if the backup was in a NTFS partition?
[02:18] <Perff> wols:
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ubotu is a bot
[02:18] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[02:18] <aeGIs> gynch: you have to put a command in
[02:18] <aeGIs> ubotu is a bot?
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:19] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I beleive you'd need to copy it over to an ext2/3 or other linux partition
[02:19] <Perff> wols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
[02:19] <aeGIs> Oh, I didn't know ubotu is a bot
[02:19] <musikgoat> lol
[02:19] <RenatoSilva> wols_: hum means hum
[02:19] <l21logan99> wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
[02:19] <gvsa123> aeGIs: cool
[02:19] <wols_> RenatoSilva: if you want a backup, make a tarfile of what you want ot backup. you can put this easily on a ntfs drive without any problems
[02:19] <chickenFuego> eric - as far as I know, the vfat linux kernel driver can read/write fat16, but only read fat32.
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: Did you use fwcutter?
[02:19] <wols_> RenatoSilva: have a nice day and learn to speak properly. good bye
[02:19] <aeGIs> ntfs!
[02:19] <musikgoat> chickenFuego: i'm not sure if that is correct
[02:20] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[02:20] <wols_> chickenFuego: not true
[02:20] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: otherwise what'd happen?
[02:20] <wols_> musikgoat: it isn't
[02:20] <musikgoat> vfat writes fine to fat32
[02:20] <musikgoat> ok
[02:20] <l21logan99> bcm43xx-fwcutter FILE
[02:20] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: What problem are you having, all of those have worked fine for me
[02:20] <serenityUK> i use fat32 r/w
[02:20] <RenatoSilva> wols_: you too
[02:20] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, tarring is excellent advice , it stands for tape archive. Standard procedure for backups
[02:20] <gnychis> I added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
[02:20] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow make installfw
[02:20] <eric> there is the paste for both wols and serenities scripts
[02:21] <l21logan99> i get  No rule to make target `installfw'
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> wols_: have some sex, you need it I guess
[02:21] <neep2h> i need help on setting up wireless connection from laptop to router so i can get on teh interwebs :( can someone plz help me?
[02:21] <wols_> eric: can you put up the bootsector file somewhere
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: good idea that of TAR
 wols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: but i'm curious about what would happen
[02:21] <musikgoat> eric, fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1 ?
[02:22] <wols_> Perff: pastebin your menu.lst and your fdisk -l output
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: Where are you getting the request to make installfw?
[02:22] <KyleS> I'm having a weird issue
[02:22] <Perff> wols: and if I fix the script (it for somewhat stupid reason set "root (hd0,0)", it kernelpanics
[02:22] <KyleS> The following partially installed packages will be configured:
[02:22] <KyleS>   linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:22] <l21logan99> in terminal
[02:22] <KyleS> And it's failing
[02:22] <wols_> musikgoat: since it's no vfat or not recognized as such it will eithernot work or destroy data
[02:22] <eric> boot sector should be in the same paste
[02:22] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
[02:22] <l21logan99> ohh the BCM43xx README
[02:22] <KyleS> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:22] <KyleS>  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:22] <Perff> wols: ok i will
[02:22] <wols_> !paste | KyleS
[02:22] <ubotu> KyleS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:22] <KyleS> ah...sorry
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: And this is the help page you are using..   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[02:23] <wols_> Perff: and paste ALL the output. not just parts
[02:23] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, happen? permissions and ownership isn't carried properly
[02:23] <l21logan99> yes
[02:23] <eric> yeah its at the bottom
[02:23] <musikgoat> eric, thats just the dd command
[02:23] <eric> musikgoat, i dont know what that means either
[02:23] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: my backup is already as a folder on a NTFS filesystem, I guess restoring it would let the owner as root:root or maybe the current user...
[02:23] <musikgoat> eric cat bootsector
[02:23] <l21logan99> but i got a Restricted Drivers not needed error, so i have to manualy install the firmware in terminal
[02:23] <wols_> musikgoat: bootsector is a binary file...
[02:23] <l21logan99> via the README
[02:23] <musikgoat> oh
[02:23] <eric> err, how do i show the boot sector?
[02:23] <KyleS> http://pastebin.com/d604360af
[02:23] <KyleS> sorry bout that
[02:23] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if you haven't started the upgrade/install yet, redo it as a tar.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: what did you put into term that generated the error
[02:24] <l21logan99> make installfw
[02:24] <wols_> eric: that is the problem :(
[02:24] <wols_> info ht
[02:24] <l21logan99> right after the extraction completed
[02:24] <wols_> !info ht
[02:24] <ubotu> ht: Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (gutsy), package size 570 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[02:24] <eric> im lost hehe... what is the problem?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter           that worked or not
[02:24] <eric> no boot sector?
[02:25] <eric> bad boot secotr?
[02:25] <wols_> eric: install ht
[02:25] <l21logan99> i didnt do that
[02:25] <eric> ht?
[02:25] <wols_> eric: the bootsector can help us to see if it's actually a FAT drive
[02:25] <l21logan99> was never told to
[02:25] <wols_> eric: yes ht
[02:25] <eric> ah ok
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: that is step one on the page I just linked
[02:25] <eric> i dont know what that is =/
[02:25] <wols_> eric:  package. as I said: install ht
[02:25] <young> is it normal when system booting beeps once, I am using a laptop T43
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh              is step 2
[02:26] <wundaboy> has anyone had trouble upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 with the update manager?
[02:26] <l21logan99> i do not have any internet
[02:26] <l21logan99> that is for an online install
[02:26] <musikgoat> eric, looks like you have to install tex4ht
[02:26] <gvsa123> what's the command to see the devices connected if you forgot the /dev/xxx so you can mount for example.
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: anotehr question: at job, the upgrade doesn't work. After downloading the upgrade tool, it tells me there was a fault regarding PGP authentication or something like this...
[02:27] <wundaboy> im having trouble having it automatically download
[02:27] <eric> ok
[02:27] <serenityUK> gvsa123: sudo fdisk -l
[02:27] <eric> im getting those packages now
[02:27] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try sudo aptitide update , then run the upgrade again
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> YOu can download on another machine and copy those files over.
[02:27] <serenityUK> gvsa123: that's l for larry
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99:
[02:27] <wols_> nickrud: why would aptitude install gpg keys?
[02:27] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if you get the same error, paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: what does this command do?
[02:28] <KyleS> http://pastebin.com/d604360af <---any suggestions with that? :(
[02:28] <nickrud> wols_, if his sources hasn't been read recently, they're marked as unauthenticated
[02:28] <XPertKnobTwiddlr> is there a quick guide somewhere for setting up distcc on ubuntu?
[02:28] <chickenFuego> "ht - Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables" I am curious now..
[02:28] <gvsa123> serenityUK: this is the same for devices that are not storage?
[02:28] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm going back to job only next year
[02:28] <musikgoat> man, that is alot of dependancies for a text editor
[02:28] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: you were saying something?
[02:29] <musikgoat> !info tex4ht
[02:29] <ubotu> tex4ht: LaTeX and TeX for Hypertext (HTML) - executables. In component main, is optional. Version 20070717-2 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 916 kB
[02:29] <NotSoGutsy> anybody good with QT ?  #qt isn't respoding
[02:29] <eric> ht is installed, im getting tex4ht now
[02:29] <gvsa123> serenityUK: like webcams, etc...
[02:29] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, updates your sources, clears the most common authentication error
[02:29] <NotSoGutsy> I'm trying to compile a program, it's throwing a lot of errors, and I'm not sure why
[02:29] <wols_> eric: why? that's not needed
[02:29] <kyu_flux> wols: got it - vista guest account wasn't enabled
[02:29] <eric> oh
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: HAve you put a copy of bcm43xx-fwcutter   on that system
[02:29] <kyu_flux> wols_: thanks for helping me out
[02:29] <eric> um.. alright
[02:29] <wols_> eric: hte bootsector    paste the output of that
[02:29] <mackarill> my firefox stops responding when i go on youtube
[02:29] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, you might need to do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:29] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: yes via the link in that link
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mackarill: Flash is broken
[02:30] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: my sources were updated through synaptic, and all feisty updates was applied as well
[02:30] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: already done
[02:30] <f_0_0> anyone able to get their usb camcorder to work
[02:30] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: i dont thing you understand, the extraction worked, the install wont
[02:30] <Arsenic> Hi there!  I'm trying to install a perl script that is requires some Perl Modules.  One of the module is List::MoreUtils version 0.22 and I have v 0.21.  When trying to install the latest version through 'perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' ' it tells me that I have the latest version...
[02:30] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then show the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:30] <eric> whoah, it put me in this blue screen with lots of zeros... how do i not break this?
[02:30] <serenityUK> gvsa123: there are a few different commands...   lspci   and  lsusb    will list  pci and usb devices... use -v for more detail
[02:30] <gvsa123> serenityUK: lsusb!... i remembered now...
[02:30] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, can you paste your compilation errors msg?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> what about a copy of wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[02:30] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: it throws a lot of errors, mostly ones like "error: invalid use of undefined type ‘struct <name>’" or "error: ‘<name>’ was not declared in this scope"
[02:30] <baudolino> hey all - I've somehow borked my ubuntu installation which now boots to a text console login rather than into X, anyone have any ideas of settings that I may have somehow screwed up that could cause this to happen?
[02:30] <wols_> l21logan99: what firmware binary did you get from the extraction? and where did you copy it?
[02:31] <baudolino> if I log in and startx all is fine, X just doesn't start at boot
[02:31] <wols_> baudolino: your xorg settings
[02:31] <gvsa123> serenityUK: yeah... i just couldn't remember... should have a notebook for this....
[02:31] <wols_> baudolino: that is the S99gdm symlink
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols: i used wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o which was on my home desktop
[02:31] <eric> and how do i copy and paste this stuff?
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: regarding this I've noticed that always when updating package list it shows me an alert about unauthenticated sources
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols: i got it cia a link on the wiki
[02:31] <nickrud> baudolino, if you run sudo invoke-rc.d gdm at the console, do you get the graphical login screen?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: or just wl_apsta_o
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'll verify it later
[02:31] <wols_> l21logan99: was that file created by the extraction?
[02:31] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, some missing libraries? paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:31] <serenityUK> gvsa123: use -v  for verbose...   yes  I use google notebook to write these down.. can acess form any pc with a browser lol
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols:no
[02:31] <musikgoat> eric, i'm trying to see if i can get any output,  wols_ do you have experience with ht?
[02:31] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yeah, that's the error I'm talking about.
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: thank you very much for everything
[02:31] <wols_> l21logan99: what file DID you get from extraction?
[02:31] <Arsenic> How can know which CPAN mirror i'm getting my perl packages from?
[02:32] <gvsa123> serenityUK: so is there a command to list down all commands?
[02:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and that is _upgrading_ , not updating. Two different actions
[02:32] <eric> im very new to this whole linux thing so im just trying to understand exactly what i need to do.
[02:32] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: do you know the download size for an upgrade?
[02:32] <l21logan99> wols: a variety of bcm43xx*.fw files in the .tmp folder
[02:32] <finchx6> will someone please help me get my sound working in gutsy?
[02:32] <h-town> resizing a partition sure take a long time
[02:32] <wols_> l21logan99: you need to copy one of them to /lib/firmware. possibly all of them
[02:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, depends on how much stuff you installed from the net. could be as little as 700mb , or more than 2
[02:33] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: yeah, i've *updated* feisty before trying to *upgrade* to gutsy
[02:33] <serenityUK> gvsa123: there are too many..   try info xxx   if looking for something... .    also  sudo lshw  is big list of all dectected hardware.. even memory etc
[02:33] <musikgoat> eric, i've never read a bootsector before, so i'm trying along with you, but i don't know the syntax for ht
[02:33] <eric> got it
[02:33] <wundaboy> this is what i get when i try to upgrade: http://pastebin.ca/826261
[02:33] <wundaboy> how do i fix it?
[02:33] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and you got authentication errors? Reminds me, you should disable any non-ubuntu repos before you upgrade
[02:33] <troythetechguy> I'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux | grep, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
[02:33] <baudolino> nickrud, it would be kdm i guess since im trying to fire up kde at this stage but kk I'll give that a shot, ty :)
[02:33] <wols_> eric: pastebin the output of hte now
[02:33] <serenityUK> gvsa123:   sudo  lshw    is  the daddy
[02:34] <l21logan99> wols: i did copy them all but it didnt work, the README said it needs to be in FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR
[02:34] <eric> how do i copy the output?
[02:34] <l21logan99> inlib/firmware
[02:34] <serenityUK> gvsa123:   (list hardware)
[02:34] <gvsa123> serenityUK:  i see.... i'd better go google for basic linux commands.... any manual you might want to recommend... will try those out
[02:34] <eric> its in some wierd window
[02:34] <baudolino> wols_, there is a s99kdm symlink, its pointing to /etc/init.d/kdm like I'm guessing its meant to
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: al least a CD-like? Well, it's a bad idea trying to do it on dialed connection rs
[02:34] <l21logan99> wols: "After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
[02:34] <l21logan99> FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
[02:34] <l21logan99> usage by the bcm43xx driver. "
[02:34] <l21logan99> After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
[02:34] <l21logan99> FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
[02:34] <l21logan99> usage by the bcm43xx driver. An alternative way is using the -w option.
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: hummmmmmm :)
[02:34] <wols_> l21logan99: yes in /lib/firmware. then you modprobe -r your bcm43xx and modprobe it again to load it. then you should have an interface for it which you can configure
[02:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, oh, yes you are absolutely correct. Unless you're willing to let it run all night for a a while :)
[02:34] <bascule> gvsa123: linuxcommand.org
[02:35] <gvsa123> bascule: thanks.
[02:35] <wols_> l21logan99: do NOT paste in here!
[02:35] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: in fact I think there is non-ubuntu repos...I'll try it next year, thank you!!!
[02:35] <l21logan99> wols: so how do i mobprobe
[02:35] <nickrud> l21logan99, did you run that as sudo make installfw ?
[02:35] <wols_> l21logan99: modprobe
[02:35] <l21logan99> nickrud: yes
[02:36] <nickrud> bummer, thought I had fought thru the thicket
[02:36] <gvsa123> serenityUK: i like this... lshw.... lol
[02:36] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: a night is not enough, maybe a month rs...
[02:36] <aeGIs> Would you like an apple pie with that?  Ding fries are done....
[02:36] <l21logan99> wols: yes, but you said to mobprobe -r your bcm43xx, what did you mean by "your bcm43xx"
[02:36] <DIL> how can i tell which version of Ubuntu is installed on a computer?
[02:37] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: sorry that took so long: http://pastebin.ca/826268
[02:37] <wols_> I said modprobe. read more carefully. your bcm43xx which is currently loaded but won't work
[02:37] <nickrud> DIL, lsb_release -a  in a terminal
[02:37] <eric> hmm... it is telling me it cant load the configuration file and then it says it is loading a default
[02:37] <DIL> ty
[02:37] <aeGIs> dil: system > about
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Boot_Record   fyi
[02:37] <wols_> eric: where is the paste of the htw output?
[02:37] <KyleS> nvm~
[02:37] <KyleS> figured it out
[02:37] <baudolino> nickrud, just tried sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start, telling me its not the default display manager (although /etc/default-display-manager tells a different story)
[02:37] <Billy_> guys ....... while running ubuntu 7.10 with compiz enabled I sometimes at the top window bar of firfox missing. the minimize, maxime & close button are missing, when I hover my mouse over they come back. Is there any solution ?
[02:37] <DIL> ty
[02:37] <serenityUK> gvsa123: sorry i looked through my bookmarks cant find the cheatsheet...  there are tutorials I just lost them lol...  I use www.ubuntuforums.org for most things
[02:37] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[02:38] <eric> ive already said that i dont know how to copy the hte much less get an output from it.  all i see is a blue and green screen with a bunch of 0's
[02:38] <l21logan99> wols: so i would type bcm43xx-fwcutter modprobe
[02:38] <nickrud> baudolino, sudo update-alternatives --config kdm   should allow you to set it as the default
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: Have you copied it to a file yet with dd
[02:38] <wols_> l21logan99: no
[02:38] <Perff2> wols http://pastebin.com/m12a53c96
[02:38] <mackarill> woo got utube to work
[02:38] <Perff2> http://pastebin.com/m1b7930f6
[02:38] <mrdinkles> Using Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
[02:38] <l21logan99> wols: just modprobe
[02:38] <finchx6> Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
[02:38] <wols_> Perff2: and the menu.lst?
[02:38] <recoy> hello! looking for someone to help me set up a TeamSpeak 2 server!
[02:38] <nickrud> baudolino, but but the login manager is desktop agnostic, you can start any desktop from kdm or gdm
[02:38] <NotSoGutsy> anybody else want to tell me what I'm doing wrong?: http://pastebin.ca/826268
[02:38] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not having a problem, i'm trying to learn to use ht like eric is, based off wols_ guidance
[02:39] <RenatoSilva> what about ubuntu's promisse "winmodems out-of-the-box" on Gutsy? Does anyone know how things are going...
[02:39] <gvsa123> serenityUK: thanks though... trying to look for something i can print out... no need for elaborate descriptions... just what they do basically...
[02:39] <Perff3> wols? i got offline, could you plz repeat
[02:39] <sunogbaga> wols_: thx.. it's working now.. although network manager won't show the devices, which i think i can live with. :D
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: ok.. just saw your comment and wanted to link info on the mbr
[02:39] <musikgoat> no prob Jack_Sparrow
[02:39] <DIL> the lsb_release command is that general linux command
[02:39] <recoy> how do i get set up a server in teamspeak 2?
[02:39] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, you are missing the package libqt4-dev or libqt3-headers or lsb-build-desktop3.
[02:39] <eric> musikgoat, how do i get this file to output what i need to copy?
[02:39] <cowlikk> can anyone help me
[02:39] <nickrud> NotSoGutsy, you need the right hader files
[02:40] <VB_Pulse9> alguien que hable espanol?
[02:40] <nickrud> !find qapplication.h
[02:40] <wols_> Perff3: which partition has your /boot?
[02:40] <RenatoSilva> what about ubuntu's promisse "winmodems out-of-the-box" on Gutsy? Does anyone know how things are going...
[02:40] <ubotu> File qapplication.h found in libqt3-headers, libqt4-dev, lsb-build-desktop3
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !es | VB_Pulse9
[02:40] <ubotu> VB_Pulse9: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:40] <bazhang> !es | VB_Pulse9
[02:40] <Billy_> guys ....... while running ubuntu 7.10 with compiz enabled I sometimes have the top window bar of firfox missing. the minimize, maxime & close button are missing, when I hover my mouse over they come back. Is there any solution ?
[02:40] <musikgoat> eric, i'm not able to output anything from the bootsector file either...   wols_  do you know what do do with ht?
[02:40] <VB_Pulse9> !es
[02:40] <wols_> eric: hte bootsector
[02:40] <eric> thats what i typed
[02:40] <VB_Pulse9> como entro ahi en los canales en espanol?
[02:40] <cowlikk> HELP ME PLEASE
[02:40] <wols_> eric: so you get a mostly blue screen?
[02:40] <eric> yeah
[02:40] <musikgoat> ahh
[02:40] <bazhang> VB_Pulse9: type /join #ubuntu-es
[02:40] <eric> mostly
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps | cowlikk
[02:40] <ubotu> cowlikk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:41] <VB_Pulse9> gracias
[02:41] <RenatoSilva> !br
[02:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:41] <nickrud> musikgoat, you see that file search above? You need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and figure out what packages will have the files that weren't found
[02:41] <eric> there is some green, some options, file, edit and so on at the top
[02:41] <recoy> need help with teamspeak 2 server setup
[02:41] <wols_> eric: copy it and paste it into a pastebin
[02:41] <cowlikk> well it got your attention
[02:41] <RenatoSilva> !sp
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <wols_> cowlikk: you got my ignore instead. have a niec day
[02:41] <baudolino> nickrud, --config kdm doesn't have alternatives, I thought I remembered there being a setting x-display-manager but update-alternatives doesn't seem to want to play ball with that, all I can find related to X are x-session-manager (currently set to startkde) and x-window-manager (set to kwin)
[02:41] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego / nickrud :: the lsb-build-desktop3 is required too, it's rather large for this use alone
[02:41] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, the first header file missing is: qapplication.h, just paste this filename in packages.ubuntu.com, under "Search the contents of packages" (second form) and you will see the corresponding package.
[02:41] <RenatoSilva> !es
[02:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:41] <harushimo> I can't play dvds on my computer
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> cowlikk: and got you ignored...
[02:41] <l21logan99> wols: im sorry but i am not familiar with modprobe commands
[02:41] <eric> how do i copy all of that information?
[02:41] <DIL> you all are some smart people!!
[02:41] <cowlikk> you guys are gay
[02:41] <wols_> !dvd | harushimo
[02:41] <ubotu> harushimo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:41] <cowlikk> get over it
[02:41] <mrdinkles> Using Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
[02:41] <l21logan99> !wireless
[02:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:42] <RenatoSilva> VB_Pulse9:  #ubuntu-es
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops | cowlikk
[02:42] <ubotu> cowlikk: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[02:42] <bazhang> cowlikk: you got a question?
[02:42] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, not sure if you need qt3 or qt4..
[02:42] <baudolino> nickrud, but if gdm will work just as well I might see if I can get that to run
[02:42] <Arsenic> Anybody can give me a hand with perl packages?
[02:42] <nickrud> baudolino, yeah, the alternatives system seems to get bypassed sometimes,  just try the gdm invocation for now
[02:42] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: the site I got the program from says I need 3.3
[02:42] <l21logan99> !modprobe
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <wols_> l21logan99: modprobe -r bcm43xx
[02:42] <eric> everytime i try and copy something, all i get is 'ex4h'
[02:42] <l21logan99> ok
[02:43] <l21logan99> you said do it twice
[02:43] <recoy> can anyone help me with teamspeak 2 setup?
[02:43] <wols_> l21logan99: I did not. "modprobe -r"  is not "modprobe"
[02:43] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, which ubuntu distri do you have? type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <wols_> recoy: can you ask specific questions?
[02:43] <mackarill> can someone help me please =D, iv just installed 7.10 on my laptop and in visual effects there is no custom option. I'm using a dell inspiron 6000 and it has share intel graphics.
[02:43] <harushimo> it says an error occurs on my cd rom
[02:43] <harushimo> it can't read from source
[02:43] <l21logan99> wols: so after modprobe -r i do modprobe
[02:44] <baudolino> nickrud, trying to invoke gdm gives the same result as kdm, it just tells me its not starting because its not the default display manager
[02:44] <recoy> wols_: how do i set up a server in teamspeak i cant figure it out
[02:44] <cowlikk> you guys all fucking suck dick . haha have a nice day
[02:44] <nickrud> mackarill, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:44] <bazhang> recoy: what is that? where is the website--do they have a faq?
[02:44] <wols_> baudolino: what IS the default display manager?
[02:44] <nickrud> baudolino, hrm, try xdm
[02:44] <Grandslammaster> can any one help me with apache
[02:44] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: I'm on Gutsy
[02:44] <NotSoGutsy> hence my rather clever name
[02:44] <gvsa123> ??
[02:44] <baudolino> nickrud, /etc/X11/default-display-manager claims /usr/sbin/kdm is
[02:44] <wols_> baudolino: some VoIP program mainly for games. clan talk for example
[02:44] <baudolino> not sure if there would be another setting elsewhere overriding that?
[02:44] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, it might work with qt4, try "sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev" and compile again. paste the errors if any.
[02:44] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: I just haven't done anything with QT before this
[02:44] <recoy> http://www.goteamspeak.com/
[02:44] <wols_> baudolino: /etc/init.d/kdm start no workie?
[02:44] <mrdinkles> Using Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
[02:44] <mackarill> cowlikk was right i do suck dick XS
[02:45] <recoy> the forums are all old
[02:45] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: libqt4-dev is already newest version
[02:45] <nickrud> baudolino, doh, dumb me.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:45] <Arsenic> Anybody can give me a hand with perl packages?
[02:45] <l21logan99> wols: i will try that and be back if it does not work
[02:45] <wols_> mrdinkles: install the OS and decide which OS has the booatloader. if it's ubuntu, add the other OS to menu.lst. you ahve to do it manually
[02:45] <bazhang> recoy: take a look at the site; do they have a faq or setup instructions?
[02:45] <recoy> bazhang: they are old
[02:45] <baudolino> wols_, nah, it just gives me that line about not being the default display manager so it wont start
[02:45] <baudolino> nickrud, kk
[02:45] <wols_> Perff: which of your partitions is the linux / one? which one has your /boot?
[02:45] <recoy> bazhang: already looked at them
[02:46] <bazhang> recoy: what is the purpose of the package?
[02:46] <eric> oh well, alright, have a good night everyone
[02:46] <wols_> recoy: either you tell us the problem more precisely or I doubt anyone will or can help you
[02:46] <wols_> eric: where is the paste?
[02:46] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, your make wants qt3: "-I/usr/share/qt3/include"
[02:46] <wols_> baudolino: to talk with friends
[02:46] <recoy> bazhang: its a program like ventrilo but free and for linux
[02:47] <harushimo> does totem read dvds
[02:47] <eric> ive told you several times that i cant copy the information.
[02:47] <baudolino> nickrud, hmm...well, it gave me a choice between gdm and kdm, went with kdm and tried again but same thing about not the default-display-manager ><
[02:47] <mrdinkles> wols_: how though, your talking to newcomers-- Ubuntu has the bootloader, i think its grub-- should i start out on Ubuntu or using the live ubuntu cd or the other OS?
[02:47] <Perff_last> hi all
[02:47] <Perff_last> wols
[02:47] <Perff_last> wols_, did you receive my pastebins?
[02:47] <bazhang> recoy: no clue what that means
[02:47] <wols_> Perff: which of your partitions is the linux / one? which one has your /boot?
[02:47] <recoy> wols_:  the problem is it wants me to input a ip address for my "own server" and i dont know how or where to get my ip
[02:47] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, is thee a "configure" script available for your program?
[02:47] <wols_> Perff: I asked you tons of things and you never answered
[02:47] <musikgoat> eric,  i'm going to capture a screenshot, and have you compare it
[02:47] <Perff_last> wols_: all on /dev/sda10
[02:47] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: no there is not
[02:47] <eric> alright, thanks musikgoat
[02:47] <Perff_last> wols_: and while i run update-grub it said "Cannot determine root device.  Assuming /dev/hda1
[02:47] <Perff_last> "
[02:47] <kjm> does ubuntu have better HFS or UFS support?
[02:47] <chickenFuego> well, the package libqt3-headers should do the trick.
[02:47] <baudolino> nickrud, im thinking there'd have to be a setting somewhere that supersedes /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:47] <nickrud> baudolino, that's a bug then.  Search bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs filed against kdm , file one if you can't find it
[02:47] <wols_> Perff_last: then change the groot line in your mneu.kst to (hd0,9) and run update-grub again
[02:48] <orkun> hey there. when i use ndiswrapper i can connect to my only wpa2 network. i cannot connect to wep networks(it just asks me again for enryption). when i try to connect to my only wpa1 router, it kills it for 1-2 minutes(every client loses internet connection). using native drivers(rtl8187b-modified) ONLY wep works - but the driver is really buggy. connectivity etc. is not shown. using ndiswrapper i CAN connect to wep networks using iwconfig withou
[02:48] <orkun> t ANY problems. how come networkmanager cant handle it? using wicd does not help either, as it does neither work with "wepkey" nor with wepkey entered. how come there are noooooo tools available on this purpose? i mean, don't they have to simply follow 3 to 4 command-line commands? instead people get confused having to choose between 10 kinds of encryptions hex/ascii etc. i miss the way mac does it by simply asking to enter the protection key, a
[02:48] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, look at this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=qapplication.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[02:48] <wols_> Perff_last: menu.lst rather
[02:48] <mrdinkles> wols_: also, when i put in the other OS and run the installation, it only shows hd1 to install on-- I dont want it to overwrite ubuntu
[02:48] <orkun> s routers cannot have both wpa and wep activated. why should the user bother? any solutions to get nm to work with wep encrypted networks. i see some people having that problem. any alternatives to nm? somewhere i read, nm should be used with wext only. best regards and i appreciate your help!
[02:48] <kjm> orkun - learn how to be concise
[02:48] <wols_> mrdinkles: that's not our problem but the other OS' problem. ask their support
[02:48] <baudolino> nickrud, lol just got it
[02:48] <recoy> bazhang: can u tell me how to find my ip cuz im a newbie lol
[02:48] <musikgoat> eric http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottimcompy386lwp9.png
[02:48] <baudolino> nickrud, my default-display-manager file was pointing to /usr/sbin/kdm
[02:49] <RenatoSilva> how do I do to clean all messages?????
[02:49] <nickrud> baudolino, what did you find?
[02:49] <eric> looking now
[02:49] <baudolino> nickrud, but 'which kdm' returned /usr/bin/kdm
[02:49] <harushimo> !dvd
[02:49] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:49] <orkun> i apologize
[02:49] <wols_> recoy: ifconfig. won't be the right one if you are behind a router. use http://whatismyip.org then. or wimply do a /whois recoy
[02:49] <kjm> RenatoSilba = messages from what/who/where?
[02:49] <eric> No, my bootsector is completely blank
[02:49] <mrdinkles> wols_: fine, but how can i make a separate partition on ubuntu, that the other os can install on?
[02:49] <baudolino> nickrud, and when i changed the default-display-manager file to /usr/bin/kdm its now fine
[02:49] <nickrud> baudolino, yup, that is a bug alright.
[02:49] <baudolino> nickrud, just wish I knew what triggered it heh
[02:49] <wols_> mrdinkles: with gparted or cfdisk
[02:49] <ianq> does anyone know how i can restore the privilege table in mysql on ubuntu?
[02:49] <musikgoat> eric, ok this is what a fat32 bootsector should look like
[02:49] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, and edit the MakeFile and replace "/usr/share/qt3/include" with "/usr/include/qt3/"
[02:50] <recoy> wols_: alright ill try it
[02:50] <wols_> eric: consisting of zeros?
[02:50] <mrdinkles> wols_: using gparted-- do i need to be unmounted to make a partition?
[02:50] <eric> yes wols
[02:50] <kjm> trying to share a external drive between OS X and Ubuntu - HFS support in ubuntu is lacking - how is UFS support for read/write?
[02:50] <wols_> eric: then the sdb1 is most likely not formatted
[02:50] <mrdinkles> wols_: if its unmounted-- should i use the ubuntu cd, install gparted then unmount ??
[02:50] <eric> i have files on it... thats really wierd
[02:50] <musikgoat> why would fdisk see it?
[02:50] <baudolino> nickrud, thanks a bunch for the help :)
[02:50] <Perff_last> wols_: i changed groot to hd(0,9), uncommented, rerun update-grub - but it reset everything (same menu.lst, and groot back to hd(0,0))
[02:50] <baudolino> wols_, and you ty as well :)
[02:50] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: I installed that lsb-build-desktop3 package, and it seems to be compiling now
[02:50] <musikgoat> eric, do you have another computer?
[02:50] <nickrud> baudolino, you mean the hand holding, you fixed it yourself :)
[02:51] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: just really, really slowly :P
[02:51] <wols_> mrdinkles: what is unmounted? if you create a partition it is from unallocated space you cannot unmount since it was never mountable
[02:51] <eric> not here
[02:51] <baudolino> nickrud, lol well yeah pretty much :P
[02:51] <finchx6> Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
[02:51] <wols_> Perff_last: I did NOT say to uncomment it
[02:51] <baudolino> nickrud, got me thinking in the right direction :)
[02:51] <Perff_last> wols_: ok
[02:51] <mrdinkles> wols_: so using gparted-- wilst on ubuntu, i can make a new partition of free space? and then install the other os on that separate partition?
[02:51] <Perff_last> wols_ didn't uncomment now. changed. still the same result
[02:52] <wols_> mrdinkles: sure. but the other OS should be able to partition on its own
[02:52] <Perff_last> wols_: no, sorry
[02:52] <serenityUK> wols_: i think eric said he could see the drive using the livecd?
[02:52] <Perff_last> wols_:not completely the same... funny:
[02:52] <Perff_last> root            (hd0,9)
[02:52] <Perff_last> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:52] <eric> yeah i could see it using the livecd
[02:52] <eric> this whole thing doesnt make any sense
[02:52] <Perff_last> wols_:root is crazy, I don't have IDE disks
[02:52] <wols_> Perff_last: paste the full groot line as you edited it please
[02:52] <mrdinkles> wols: When i attempted to let ubuntu partition itself it overwrote windows, i just dont wanna lose ubuntu =/
[02:53] <Benitito> anybody successfully got the Ipod Nano syncing with ubuntu? (gtkpod / rhythmbox ) ?
[02:53] <Perff_last> # groot=(hd0,9)
[02:53] <smultron> what's a virtual package (in terms of aptitude's search output)
[02:53] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, I found the webpage of the software you are compiling. It seems quite simple. making lists of files.
[02:53] <wols_> Perff_last: delete the kopt_2_6=root line
[02:53] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: it seems to be working now :)
[02:53] <musikgoat> eric,  seems odd,  maybe testdisk would help
[02:53] <NotSoGutsy> I know it's simple, the version I made didn't work nearly as well as this one seems to, though
[02:54] <nantax> im using opera as my main browser (system-preference-preferred application)... i recently installed the gimp help files and when i open it, it pops up in firefox, how do i change this?
[02:54] <wols_> mrdinkles: again, not a ubuntu problem
[02:54] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, cool ;-)
[02:54] <eric> is that another package?
[02:54] <kitche> smultron: it installs other packages it's doesn't have anything in it just installs other ones to make it easier to install more then one really
[02:54] <musikgoat> eric  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[02:54] <Perff_last> wols_: ok
[02:54] <Benitito> noone experience with Ipod's ( NANO ) with Ubuntu ?
[02:54] <Perff_last> wols_: now I have
[02:54] <Perff_last> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[02:54] <Perff_last> root            (hd0,9)
[02:54] <Perff_last> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=220a0303-5841-4f18-a364-a53b105690c1 ro quiet splash
[02:54] <Perff_last> quiet
[02:54] <RenatoSilva> how do I do to clean all messages?????
[02:54] <smultron> kitche: ah, ok. makes sense. do you know what the 'p' and 'c' stand for too?
[02:54] <Perff_last> wols_: does it look like it should work?
[02:54] <wols_> Perff_last: how often have you been told not to spam in here?
[02:54] <RenatoSilva> !clean
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <wols_> yes it should work
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> humm
[02:55] <musikgoat> eric you could try running that to recover your bootsector
[02:55] <eric> hmm... not sure how to work with tars but ill check the repo's for a copy
[02:55] <bascule> RenatoSilva: what messages?
[02:55] <wols_> Perff_last: if the UUID is the right one that is :)
[02:55] <RenatoSilva>  "/clear"
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> nice!
[02:55] <Zoohouse> I installed Compiz-kde along with all the other files. Where do I configure compiz? I kinda ran compiz from konsole then closed it and now I don't have title bars...
[02:55] <Perff_last> wols_ : thanks. ok next time i don't paste more than... (how many lines? 2?)
[02:55] <Perff_last> wols_: going to reboot to check. thanks much
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> bascule: these messages we write
[02:55] <serenityUK> Zoohouse: you need to install  compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:55] <bascule> Zoohouse: alt+F2 --> compiz --replace
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> bascule: "/clean" :D
[02:56] <bascule> RenatoSilva: yes /clear will do it :)
[02:56] <RenatoSilva> bascule: "clear"
[02:56] <RenatoSilva> bascule: so nice uahauhsuh
[02:56] <UbuntMe> Hi
[02:56] <bascule> hey
[02:56] <UbuntMe> How do i romove a folder
[02:56] <musikgoat> but eric, i'm not familiar with that utility, my buddy at work used it to recover his data from an accidently formatted ntfs disk
[02:56] <Zoohouse> bascule, now i don't have a kicker... lol
[02:56] <UbuntMe> like, if i wanted to remove /usr/lib/vlc/visualization
[02:57] <bascule> Zoohouse: alt+f2 -> kicker
[02:57] <UbuntMe> how do i remove that from a terminal?
[02:57] <musikgoat> UbuntMe: rm -r /usr/folder
[02:57] <eric> hmm alright
[02:57] <Zoohouse> bascule, alt + f2 doesn't work anymore..
[02:57] <UbuntMe> thanks, merry christmas!
[02:57] <chickenFuego> UbuntMe, if the folder is empty: rmdire /mydir
[02:57] <UbuntMe> tks!
[02:57] <chickenFuego> UbuntMe, if the folder is empty: rmdir /mydir
[02:57] <bascule> Zoohouse: oh ... that's problematic, restart desktop
[02:57] <Zoohouse> i will try ctr+alt+deleate...
[02:57] <Zoohouse> brb
[02:58] <serenityUK> Zoohouse: to restore type   metacity --replace    for gnome....    or  kwin --replace    for kde
[02:58] <serenityUK> damn
[02:58] <happy1> What filesystem do i use to mount a dvd?
[02:58] <bascule> auto
[02:58] <chickenFuego> how do I select a default user in gdm?
[02:58] <musikgoat> happy1: i think scd0
[02:58] <bascule> or iso9660 or udf depends really
[02:59] <Zoohouse> bascule,  Everything is back to normal :)
[02:59] <happy1> i tried -a and it rejected it
[02:59] <eric> well, ill have to work on this later.  thanks wols, musik and serenity and whoever else.
[02:59] <chickenFuego> kdm selects the last one automatically.
[02:59] <bascule> Zoohouse: excellent
[02:59] <Lobinho> hello, im getting a weird effect where my cursor will snap to snap to seemingly random places when i close a window or change between windows? any way to get rid of this behavior?
[02:59] <musikgoat> good luck eric
[02:59] <bascule> Zoohouse: alt+f2 -> compiz --replace
[02:59] <chickenFuego> I managed to have a user list in gdm ,, but no default selection.
[02:59] <jijutm> hi all, during the past six months, I have successfully migrated our web application dev team to ubuntu.. Now I wish to do the same for the java team also.. what should i look into first
[02:59] <eric> thanks
[03:00] <baudolino> hey all again, worked out that throwing a link in /home/$USER/.kde/Autostart will cause it to start when I log my account in, is there anywhere I could put it to get it to start when X first fires up (thinking setting up X11 for remote logins)
[03:00] <serenityUK> jijutm: there is a new version of netbeans just out..  6.0    made by sun especially for java dev
[03:00] <bascule> jijutm: what editor/IDE do they use
[03:00] <jijutm> netbeans
[03:00] <chickenFuego> jijutm, I am developping with java on ubuntu. Where is the java team programing on now?
[03:00] <jijutm> yea
[03:00] <jijutm> all the guys are having exp only on win platforms
[03:01] <Notos> hello some one wants to help me se up a Raid0
[03:01] <chickenFuego> jijutm, ok, which ide are they using?
[03:01] <bascule> jijutm: should be easy enough for them to use the same IDE :)
[03:01] <jijutm> netbeans
[03:01] <serenityUK> jijutm: netbeans is for linux too!
[03:01] <LetterRip> Hi all, any suggestions for scaling of the distance moved for the mousepointer by the touchpad in a single stroke?
[03:01] <bascule> Notos: is that mirror or linear, I forget all the time
[03:01] <jijutm> i heard that netbeans is having an integrated tomcat
[03:01] <LetterRip> currently it takes 6 or 7 finger strokes to move my mouse pointer from one side to the other
[03:01] <poppy75> how can i access a connected samba share via the terminal like "cd samba", i can get to it by going to places and network i just dont know how in the terminal
[03:02] <jijutm> will it create prob when run as a user ?
[03:02] <chickenFuego> jijutm, I can only say that the eclipse integration is pretty perfect as soon as you know where to select sun java instead of the gcj..
[03:02] <kitche> poppy75: with smbclient
[03:02] <Zoohouse> bascule, thanks, it is working now :)
[03:02] <Notos> bascule: im not realy sure im just following a guide i found
[03:02] <bascule> Zoohouse: welcome
[03:02] <musikgoat> bascule: raid0 is striping
[03:02] <jijutm> cF: i think i should try both
[03:02] <kitche> poppy75: but you can mount it to a directory as well if you wish
[03:02] <chickenFuego> It might be the same crap with netbean. gcj by default with ubuntu for licenses reasons.
[03:02] <bascule> musikgoat: heh, wrong from me on both counts
[03:02] <poppy75> how do i mount it to a dir?
[03:03] <bascule> Notos: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:03] <jijutm> poppy75: you use smbclient
[03:03] <Notos> bacule, Join to 500gb SATAII hd into one magnificent 1tb hd :)
[03:03] <finchx6> Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
[03:03] <jijutm> poppy75: mount using smbmount
[03:03] <bascule> Notos: that's linear
[03:04] <happy1> question:  how to fix mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist ?
[03:04] <musikgoat> Notos: for what reason, you are doubling your chances of data loss?
[03:04] <Notos> i like my hd tidy
[03:04] <musikgoat> ok
[03:04] <jijutm> happy1: find your device by checking dmesg
[03:04] <qwerty121> hi all! how can i install a grub splash?
[03:04] <musikgoat> Notos: i think jbod is what you want, iirc
[03:04] <jijutm> then create a link to that device in /dev; or even better mount the device
[03:05] <bascule> Notos: using mdadm is trivially easy, but there will be a need to format both drives after wordis into one volume
[03:05] <harushimo> I finally got the dvd playing
[03:05] <poppy75> so to access via terminal i have to mount it manually or add the share to /etc/fstab
[03:05] <harushimo> thank you
[03:05] <gravemind> hey - I accidentally removed the spacer from the toolbar, and now I don't see the wireless manager anymore -- how can I get it back?
[03:05] <finchx6> Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
[03:06] <musikgoat> Notos: if you are wanting it to be easier to recover if a disk goes bad, i would suggest the linear method,  jbod   not the striping method raid 0
[03:07] <serenityUK> gravemind: right click on space in panel and choose  add to panel?   i think you want the notification area...  network manager will start when u login
[03:07] <musikgoat> additionally, you cannot use true raid 0 on two different sized disks
[03:07] <gravemind> serenityUK: thanks,
[03:08] <finchx6> so..  i'm taking this as a no??
[03:08] <gravemind> yeah that's in!
[03:08] <gravemind> I thought it was spacer
[03:08] <bascule> finchx6: no one seems to
[03:08] <Notos> musikgoat, yes im looking at wikipedia jbod its what i want now... how to archive it under ubuntu 7.10
[03:08] <Guest10108408> Hello
[03:08] <HolyAvenger> d/oh
[03:09] <serenityUK> gravemind: i deleted my whole bottom panel before lol..  you can recreate by choosing new  anel
[03:09] <haiti305> 2pac
[03:09] <gravemind> haha
[03:09] <gnychis> I added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
[03:09] <wols_> finchx6: ran asoundconf? the driver sould be snd-intel-hda
[03:09] <musikgoat> Notos: is this going to be separate from your OS, or do you want to install Gutsy on to the spanning disks?
[03:09] <nadio> Where can i find loggs about ethernet connections?
[03:09] <finchx6> the only thing that comes up when I run that is NVidia
[03:10] <finchx6> or, I mean, when I run asoundconf list    all it returns is Nvidia
[03:11] <Notos> musikgoar: i am going to install ubuntu on the disks just ubuntu no windows at all
[03:11] <chickenFuego> nadio, sudo tcpdump -i eth0
[03:11] <tazz> how do i get a list of unmainitaned packaes for ubuntu? Somthing like http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned
[03:11] <nadio> chickenFuego: Yes but is this logged anywhere?
[03:11] <nadio> chickenFuego: logged by default, for say example for iptables
[03:11] <sonic> hi
[03:12] <soldats> hi
[03:12] <chickenFuego> nadio, dunno sorry.
[03:12] <musikgoat> Notos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279134  this isn't alot of help but it says to start with the alt install disk
[03:12] <sonic> my name is sun yong le china
[03:12] <Condoulo> who here knows how I can do dotted tabs in Openoffice.org?
[03:12] <bascule> nadio: it depends of you had --log set in iptables rule(probably not)
[03:12] <sexcopter> hi, in rhythmbox, is there a way to exclude a subfolder from the library (thinking: not have audiobooks in the library but contained in my audio folder)?
[03:12] <nadio> chickenFuego: okey thanks anyway for your help and time :)
[03:12] <Condoulo> heya Lumpy. :)
[03:13] <nadio> bascule: No I was just asking if it does that by default.
[03:13] <chickenFuego> nadio, you can use etherreal to write to log files.
[03:13] <bascule> nadio: no, you have to state it
[03:13] <musikgoat> Notos: maybe this as well, looks more how to'ish http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[03:13] <Pici> tazz: Let me ask a dev about it...
[03:13] <chickenFuego> nadio, ethereal with one "r"
[03:13] <l21logan99> wols: i tried what you suggested with the modprobe -r, then the modprobe and on modprobe i got a FATA l ERROR- Operation  Not Permitted
[03:13] <Notos> musikgoat, lets see....
[03:14] <nadio> bascule: thanks
[03:14] <nickrud> tazz, as I understand it, there's only the core developers and the masters of the universe, no one person is "owns" a package like in debian
[03:14] <onats> how do i add a keyboard shortcut to the show desktop command?
[03:14] <nadio> chickenFuego: I know of that app :)
[03:14] <wols_> l21logan99:start to think
[03:14] <nadio> chickenFuego: but thanks anywa
[03:14] <finchx6> wols: i tried going through what they mention on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614903&highlight=MT3421  with no luck
[03:14] <tazz> ah i see
[03:15] <l21logan99> wols: start to think about what?
[03:15] <nibsa1242b> Hello, I need someone to help with a DVD burning issue. Ubuntu refuses to recognize that there is a blank DVD-R in my burner. I have used normal DVDs, DVD+RWs, and DVD-RWs and DVD-Rs from this same spindle in the past, and tried multiple disks in an attempt to pin point the problem. Any ideas?
[03:15] <wols_> l21logan99: what you are doing. using your brain once in a while really helps
[03:15] <poningru> nibsa1242b: that sounds like a dvd driver problem
[03:15] <l21logan99> wols: i appreciate the help and understand that i am pretty bad at this stuff, but i tried doing it under "root" and "sudo: and nothing worked
[03:16] <poningru> nibsa1242b: can you burn this type of dvd in the dvd drive in windows? or another os?
[03:16] <Notos> musikgoat, so should i desactivate the Raid i set up on the bios?
[03:16] <poningru> !ndiswrapper
[03:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:16] <Pici> nickrud: ack, you stole my answer (I was asking a motu for tazz)
[03:16] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I've used the same exact brand of disk from the same spindle on this same drive in the past. I can burn this type of dvd in windows, and I've done it in Ubuntu before.
[03:16] <wols_> l21logan99: sudo mpdprobe -r bcm43xx"
[03:16] <l21logan99> i did that
[03:16] <judgement> network problem. can someone help?
[03:17] <Syco54645> i just installed gutsy and now any time i go to youtube it says that i need codecs... how can i fix that?
[03:17] <l21logan99> it worked but then the sudo modprobe failed
[03:17] <bascule> l21logan99: it won't let you remove a module that is depended upon by others, in lsmod you can see the dependees listed in brackets of a given mod
[03:17] <nibsa1242b> poningru: However, I'd rather not reboot just to burn dvd. I don't use windows for much of anything anymore, and I don't know if I currently have dvd burning sw installed.
[03:17] <chickenFuego> judgement, paste the output of "sudo ifconfig" and describe your problem plz.
[03:17] <poningru> nibsa1242b: how are you attempting to burn it?
[03:18] <l21logan99> bascule: ok, so i am getting frustrated. what do i have to do to get the wireless working?
[03:18] <poningru> nibsa1242b: as in what software?
[03:18] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I've tried with k3b & Brassero, both applications I've used in the past. I'm trying to burn from an iso I created earlier today (and burned to a DVD-RW).
[03:18] <poningru> k3b? gnomebaker?
[03:18] <l21logan99> wols: what should i do to fix my current problem?
[03:18] <paladin_> hi
[03:18] <nickrud> Pici, didn't see your reply to him, sorry
[03:19] <poningru> nibsa1242b: can you right click on the iso and do burn to disk?
[03:19] <musikgoat> notos, if your mobo has hardware raid, that is different than the LVM software raid I'm discussing
[03:19] <poningru> what error does it give?
[03:19] <judgement> chickenFuego: well i have a router w/only one network plug in it. i tested out both pc. and they connect to the internet. but when i try to connect to the internet thru this pc it doesnt work
[03:19] <Pici> nickrud: Nah, just joking around, thanks :)
[03:19] <wols_> l21logan99: ifocnfig down the interface it currently provide. or simply reboot
[03:19] <wols_> l21logan99: for you, a reboot is easier me thinks
[03:19] <paladin_> I am trying to get my laptop to connect to my wireless network, but i cannot, since i choose not to broadcast my SSID
[03:19] <musikgoat> Notos: hardware raid is probably better, but i have my doubts
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici: got a sec in ops...
[03:19] <Ljorring> I got proprietary drivers for radeon 9600 installed, and I got xgl installed. do I need to install more for advanced desktop settings enabled? I cant get it to work!!
[03:19] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I'll try gnomebaker, never used it before. I think it'll give the same error. I don't even get the message when I insert the blank media about burning to it.
[03:19] <harrisony> paladin_: in the wireless options you can type your ssid in
[03:20] <l21logan99> wols: ill try that, and should i do all the commands again?
[03:20] <paladin_> I looked up the documentation pages, and wpasupplicant, however i cannot see my network manager
[03:20] <paladin_> on the panel
[03:20] <paladin_> how do i add it?
[03:20] <ogre> how do I re-enable nm-applet? I messed it up somehow
[03:20] <bascule> paladin_: just type it in, in wi-fi amnagement thingy say manual configure and go from there
[03:20] <finchx6> ok..  how do i use a makefile??
[03:20] <nickrud> Ljorring, did you modprobe fglrx or reboot?
[03:20] <poningru> ogre: just do alt+f2 and then type in nm-applet and press enter
[03:20] <musikgoat> finchx6: cd dirwithmakefile/ && make && sudo make install
[03:21] <bascule> paladin_: ah, no networkmanger dock, well
[03:21] <paladin_> i do not have a wi - fi management thingy
[03:21] <paladin_> yeah
[03:21] <poningru> finchx6: what are you trying to install?
[03:21] <Ljorring> nickrud: how do I modprobe?
[03:21] <finchx6> these sound drivers released from alsa
[03:21] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I'm wondering if it might be a permissions/ automount issue. However, I can't remember how to check that.
[03:21] <poningru> finchx6: you should probably install build-essential first
[03:21] <poningru> !buildessential
[03:21] <nickrud> Ljorring, sudo modprobe fglrx , log out, log back in. If all is good, you should be able to enable the effects
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <geoffthefish> How do I change the way that my filesystem/devices are set up?  I have 400Gb on /home /dev/sd8 but only 5GB on / /dev/sda6, can i change this?
[03:21] <finchx6> !buildessential
[03:21] <poningru> !build-essential
[03:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[03:22] <chickenFuego> judgement, I can't help for routing problems...
[03:22] <finchx6> !build-essential
[03:22] <paladin_> right now i'm using an ethernet cable in a different room, however it isn't a permanent solution
[03:22] <bascule> paladin_: alt+f2 and then type in nm-applet
[03:22] <Notos> musikgoat, yah im thinking im going the Raid Way
[03:22] <kye> installing another os with vmware does windows play games well on vmware?
[03:22] <bascule> kye: no
[03:22] <paladin_> bascule: doesn't work
[03:22] <gravemind> kye: it's emulation
[03:22] <gravemind> emulation = bad
[03:22] <nickrud> kye, not at all (the directx or opengl ones)
[03:23] <bascule> paladin_: run it from a shell instead of f2, see if there is any output
[03:23] <ogre> poningru:*  well i guess nm-applet is working I just cant see any wireless connections
[03:23] <kye> thank you
[03:23] <musikgoat> Notos: there is hardware raid, which you seem to have on your mobo, and there is the software raid we were discussing,  the hardware raid would have nothing to do with ubuntu and you have to set that up within the BIOS or raid utilities
[03:23] <Ljorring> it didn't do it...
[03:23] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I've got gnome baker, I'm trying to figure out how to use it to burn an iso.
[03:23] <judgement> its not routing. i'm just trying to share the connection of this computer w/another computer
[03:23] <Ljorring> when I type 'fglrxinfo' in console, it logs out
[03:23] <nickrud> Ljorring, ok. Do you have any compiz effects working?
[03:24] <nickrud> logs out? you mean the terminal closes ?
[03:24] <bascule> judgement: you need to setup a packet forwarding firewall
[03:24] <chickenFuego> judgement, you can do that with iptable and ipchain...
[03:24] <Ljorring> no, my whole interface is running graphically 'slow', like graphics is using no drivers
[03:24] <ogre> nm-applet isnt showing me my wireless connections. any idea how to fix it?
[03:24] <nibsa1242b> poningru: ok, I found the option and tried to burn it and it said ":-( /dev/hda: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"
[03:24] <yimmmy> whats up guys
[03:24] <nickrud> Ljorring, how did you install the accelerated driver?
[03:25] <yimmmy> i love ubuntu
[03:25] <yimmmy> just came here to tell every one
[03:25] <bazhang> yimmmy: you got a question?
[03:25] <bascule> yimmmy: ubuntu loves you back :)
[03:25] <DARKGuy> lol
[03:25] <Ljorring> I downloadet a package from the www.ati.com and compilated it
[03:25] <LiraNuna> lol
[03:25] <paladin__> bascule: there is no output
[03:25] <LiraNuna> lol
[03:25] <Ljorring> but I dont think it worked
[03:25] <LiraNuna> eh
[03:25] <judgement> ok thanks alot. time to dig for gold
[03:25] <LiraNuna> system lag
[03:25] <LiraNuna> virtual machines sucks cpu
[03:25] <bazhang> !enter | LiraNuna
[03:26] <yimmmy> thanks i dont have a questoin just trying out x chat
[03:26] <LiraNuna> hmm?
[03:26] <yimmmy> seems nice
[03:26] <nickrud> Ljorring, erm. Did you do the --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy method ?
[03:26] <bascule> paladin__: well  that snookers things a bit, need to use iwconfig
[03:26] <ubotu> LiraNuna: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:26] <DARKGuy> it -is- nice
[03:26] <DARKGuy> :D
[03:26] <Ljorring> that one fails
[03:26] <ogre> nm-applet isnt showing me my wireless connections. anybody have any idea how to fix it?
[03:26] <nibsa1242b> poningru: I'm googling that error msg now. Lots of responses, maybe one of them will help me fix it.
[03:26] <Ljorring> just a sec and I will fetch the error message, ok?
[03:26] <LiraNuna> *sigh* that wasn't meant to be sent here anyhow.
[03:26] <nibsa1242b> ogre: if you are on a laptop, make sure the wireless card is turned on
[03:26] <bascule> ogre: is the wi-fi switched on. just a thought
[03:27] <paladin__> bascule: sorry, just needed some time i guess "** Message: <information>       You are now connected to the wired network."
[03:27] <tazz> Pici, nickrud so who has the responisebility of updating a perticular package? The entire MOTU team?
[03:27] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  bascule  I dont have a switch to turn it off on my lappy
[03:27] <paladin__> because right now i'm using wired but in a different room
[03:27] <bascule> paladin__: are you o
[03:28] <bascule> hmm
[03:28] <n3rdboi> Anyone got a second to help a n00b with an install question?  I'm trying to install curl on 5.04 but I can't find the package.
[03:28] <thor> .
[03:28] <Ljorring> the result : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49106/
[03:28] <nickrud> Ljorring, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide , start up with where it talks about blacklisting the old fglrx.
[03:28] <bazhang> n3rdboi: 5.04? that is no longer supported
[03:28] <IdleOne> !info curl edgy
[03:28] <judgement> chickenFuego & bascule: what do we call this kind of configuration so i can search for solutions online?
[03:28] <nibsa1242b> ogre: you don't have an FN+(some key) combo that turns it on and off? or a wireless light somewhere? (if its a built in card that is normally standard)
[03:28] <ubotu> curl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.4-1ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 256 kB
[03:28] <n3rdboi> sigh.
[03:28] <Notos> musikgoat, yes i know but aparently i have to set up it with dmraid as this guide states http://wiki.eyermonkey.com/My_Ubuntu_(7.10)_Installation
[03:28] <yimmmy> could some one throw me a compiz instalation guied?
[03:28] <chickenFuego> n3rdboi, for packages issues: check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:29] <bascule> judgement: packet forwarding firewall iptables
[03:29] <Ljorring> I have been on that exact guide for some hours now...
[03:29] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  nope. not that i've ever seen after 2 years
[03:29] <bazhang> !ccsm | yimmmy
[03:29] <ubotu> yimmmy: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:29]  * n3rdboi is rtfming that url.
[03:29] <nickrud> tazz, how they do it internally, I'm not sure. I'm sure they allocate the work, but you'd be better off asking those details on #ubuntu-motu
[03:29] <serenityUK> yimmmy:  goto http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/  and look at the howto/tutorial section
[03:29] <judgement> bascule: this is to configure sharing of internet connection berween two pcs?
[03:29] <chickenFuego> judgement, google something like: "two computers iptable howto"
[03:29] <yimmmy> thanks bud
[03:30] <serenityUK> yimmmy:  they have an installation section actually too
[03:30] <nibsa1242b> ogre: Interesting, I've never seen a lappy with built-in wireless without a light. does it report as hardware present?
[03:30] <judgement> ok thanks alot! merry x-mas my fellow beings
[03:30] <tazz> will do nickrud
[03:30] <tazz> :-
[03:30] <yimmmy> i see thats great
[03:30] <tazz> :-)
[03:30] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  how do i check?
[03:30] <nickrud> Ljorring, did you say you installed xserver-xgl ?
[03:30] <serenityUK> judgement: happy new year
[03:31] <Ljorring> yes
[03:31] <Ljorring> from the package manager
[03:31] <nickrud> ok, you definitely don't need that with the 8.42.x drivers
[03:31] <judgement> & a happy new years! :)
[03:31] <bascule> judgement: yeah, I am googling for something useful
[03:31] <chickenFuego> u welcome judgement
[03:31] <nibsa1242b> ogre: I can't remember. I'd look it up for you, but I'm sure someone else can field it faster. I'm trying to solve my own problem right now.
[03:31] <paladin__> bascule: do you think i would have to use ndiswrapper?
[03:32] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  i guess i do have a wireless light & its on
[03:32] <nickrud> Ljorring, that's the important point of those drivers. For me, their performance sucks so I went back to 8.37.6 from ubuntu
[03:33] <bascule> paladin__: well if you have a wifi0 or somw wifi dev showing no, else yes
[03:33] <nibsa1242b> ogre: ok well thats pretty much the extent of my suggestion... other then that make sure your router broadcasts the SSID... generally makes it easier to find for wireless cards
[03:33] <paladin__> i think i found the problem, at boot the bcm43xx module doesn't load properly during startup
[03:33] <Ljorring> I should use the proprietary drivers from ubuntu?
[03:33] <paladin__> and i have a broadcom 4311 chip
[03:33] <sonja> how do i rename my keyboards in ubuntu
[03:33] <sonja> right now they're just USA and USA2
[03:33] <sonja> by default
[03:33] <UbuntMe> my vlc just stoped working for no reason, a little help? please!
[03:34] <sonja> but I want to give them specific names like Qwerty, Dvorak, etc.
[03:34] <ogre> does anyone know why nm-applet would stop showing wireless access points?
[03:34] <nickrud> Ljorring, I do, with Xgl. No suspend with any ati in gutsy, so I went for performance
[03:34] <bazhang> UbuntMe: that is not much info to go on--try running it from the terminal and giving error messages (pastebin them)
[03:34] <serenityUK> ogre: did u try and click on manual config?
[03:34] <UbuntMe> bazhang:  ok, how do i do that?
[03:35] <ogre> serenityUK:*  yeah how do i configure it/
[03:35] <bazhang> UbuntMe: do what
[03:35] <nibsa1242b> ogre: quick thought you hve wireless enabled & networking enabled on right?
[03:35] <UbuntMe> launch it from terminal
[03:35] <bazhang> UbuntMe: try typing vlc for starters
[03:35] <Ljorring> I got it working once with proprietary drivers, and it was pure hell to get there... I will try and use the ubuntu suggested fglrx drivers now
[03:35] <paladin__> so now my question is where do i get the bcm4311 module?
[03:35] <Ljorring> I will do a restart now
[03:35] <UbuntMe> ok, lol ;)
[03:36] <bascule> judgement: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[03:36] <UbuntMe> bazhang:  luke@luke-laptop:~$ vlc
[03:36] <UbuntMe> VLC media player 0.8.6c Janus
[03:36] <UbuntMe> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:36] <UbuntMe> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[03:36] <l21logan99> wols: I redid the modprobe and it all worked, but i am still not getting any wireless
[03:36] <judgement> bascule: :) thanks
[03:36] <college> how many updates are there for ubuntu ? i had a message that that there was 178 that my update manager desplayed. is that right?
[03:36] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  its not giving me option to
[03:36] <bazhang> UbuntMe: looks like a segfault
[03:37] <wagner_br|se> help... how can i install the creative live! pro webcam?
[03:37] <Syco54645> gnash is causing problems when watching youtube, is there any other plugin that i can use?
[03:37] <IdleOne>  college possibly if you havent ran any updates in a while
[03:37] <nibsa1242b> ogre: right click
[03:37] <bazhang> !webcam | wagner_br|se
[03:37] <ubotu> wagner_br|se: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:37] <bascule> judgement: it's involved but you seem keen to learn :)
[03:37] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  networking is there but no wireless
[03:37] <UbuntMe> bazhang:  whats that? how do i fix it?
[03:37] <college> Idle0ne: i did a fresh install
[03:38] <serenityUK>  !flash  | Syco54645
[03:38] <ubotu> Syco54645: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:38] <l21logan99> wols: are you still here
[03:38] <bascule> paladin__: loks like you are in the same boat as ogre
[03:38] <IdleOne> college: then indeed you have 178 updates. go ahead and apply them
[03:38] <nibsa1242b> ogre: I really don't know then, sorry.
[03:38] <l21logan99> !wireless
[03:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:38] <bazhang> UbuntMe: what are you trying to open with vlc? try using another media app to open it and see what happens
[03:38] <ogre> nibsa1242b:*  well thanks for trying :)
[03:38] <Ljorring> I think that Im using the 'normal' proprietary drivers now
[03:38] <paladin__> ogre: i just found this: http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
[03:38] <paladin__> trying it now
[03:38] <sonja> how do i set ubuntu aspect resolution and change it to my monitor's native one?
[03:38] <nibsa1242b> ogre: np
[03:38] <Ljorring> can u use a pastebin of some of my logs/configs?
[03:39] <bascule> UbuntMe: vlc is nasty in linux anyway
[03:39] <sonja> i want to change it to 1280 x 1024
[03:39] <ogre> paladin_:*  ill check it out now
[03:39] <serenityUK> sonja   do you have nvidia?
[03:39] <UbuntMe> bazhang:  cuz vlc is better than kaffeine, move player, and all that
[03:39] <UbuntMe> bascule:  whats the best then?
[03:39] <sonja> i have a sapphire video card
[03:39] <college> Idle0ne: also it told me that some where not from a  secure sorce
[03:39] <sonja> serenityUK
[03:39] <sonja> radeon
[03:39] <bascule> UbuntMe: xine imo, the standard xine, not xine anything or *xine, just xine-ui
[03:40] <IdleOne> college: did you change/add anytyhing to your sources.list?
[03:40] <nickrud> Ljorring, first , uninstall xserver-xgl , and log out and back in. Lets check your driver first.
[03:40] <ogre> well im on a fresh install so ill just reformat
[03:40] <college> Idle0ne: yes its all installed
[03:40] <Ljorring> ok
[03:40] <nickrud> Ljorring, and use my nick in your replies, it shows up red and I won't miss them (almost missed your last)
[03:40] <college> Idle0ne: no its i fresh install
[03:40] <l21logan99> wols is gone i assume
[03:40] <college> Idle0ne: no editing
[03:40] <mongo1> can someone help me on installing a Broadcom 4311 driver via ndiswrapper? Im new to linux and dont really know what to do. thanks
[03:41] <Syco54645> serenityUK, it says to use nspluginwrapper on amd64, but that is not in the repos
[03:41] <Ljorring> nickrud: mkay :)
[03:41] <college> Idle0ne: i just did an update
[03:41] <IdleOne> college: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[03:41] <IdleOne> !paste | college
[03:41] <ubotu> college: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:41] <serenityUK> sonja   sorry i don't have ati....    i believe there is a control panel try typing   sudo aticonfig  ??
[03:41] <bascule> !ndiswrapper | mongo1
[03:41] <ubotu> mongo1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <nickrud> Ljorring, ah, better :)
[03:42] <college> its not that big
[03:42] <Ljorring> nickrud: a relog is enough after xgl-removal?
[03:42] <zach382> Is the new Nvidia Linux driver 169.07 going to be available to upgrade to through thre restricted manager?
[03:42] <mongo1> someone sent me there earlier and it screwed meh lappy up and i just now fixed it
[03:42] <nickrud> Ljorring, yes
[03:42] <nibsa1242b> I need help. I think my permissions for BLANK burnable media are not allowing me to burn on to blank media. I can, however, overwrite/append to non-blank media. Anyone help?
[03:42] <IdleOne> college: please use pastebin. dont paste in here
[03:43] <UbuntMe> bascule:  will xine play dvds good? because thats all i want, i good dvd player program
[03:43] <college> Idle0ne: i cant cppy it
[03:43] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, im on
[03:43] <IdleOne> college: why not?
[03:43] <nickrud> Ljorring, ok, fglrxinfo, last line should tell you the driver number
[03:43] <bascule> UbuntMe: beautifully, load the dvd, cance; the auto run thingy, open xine, hit the dvd button
[03:43] <college> Idle0ne: i dont know it wont let me
[03:43] <mackarill> how do i add more desktops lol
[03:44] <maverickAlex> what do i edit to add different sessions to the login choices?
[03:44] <friedtofu> hey hey hey - anyone know how to change the X's DPI to 96?... its 50 atm and i dont know how to change it
[03:44] <IdleOne> college: then I dont know how I can help
[03:44] <nickrud> mackarill, right click the window switcher bottom right, preferences
[03:44] <serenityUK> Syco54645: there is a script to install it easity... i am 64bit too...
[03:44] <college> Idle0ne: what is more secure debian or ubuntu
[03:44] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, if I suddenly disappear, then its because I auto-relog after using that command
[03:44] <Syco54645> serenityUK, i must have missed that then...
[03:44] <bazhang> maverickAlex: download different wm or de's
[03:44] <serenityUK> Syco54645: uninstall gnash first  then follow this tutorial  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[03:44] <nickrud> Ljorring, :)
[03:44] <mackarill> ahh cool
[03:44] <mackarill> thanks
[03:44] <maverickAlex> bazhang: wm?
[03:45] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, now It worked :)
[03:45] <maverickAlex> window manager?
[03:45] <Ljorring> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49108/
[03:45] <Ljorring> oops
[03:45] <bascule> college: security is a process not a state, both need knowledge, both are secure out the box in relative terms and both supply regular updates
[03:45] <Ljorring> nickrud: OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
[03:45] <Jay-Oh-En> subzero2000:
[03:45] <Jay-Oh-En> oops
[03:45] <brontos> Good Evening all!  Anyone here know about kino?
[03:45] <bazhang> maverickAlex: xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc
[03:45] <serenityUK> Syco54645: it does the work for u just follow instructions on that threead
[03:45] <Vaalth> hey, do you guys know if openoffice files are compatible with microsoft word 2007?
[03:45] <Jay-Oh-En> #booze
[03:45] <Vaalth> with text formatting
[03:45] <maverickAlex> ya but that not what i need.  i want one so i can pick gnome with out using xgl
[03:45] <Syco54645> serenityUK, thanks a ton.  gnash really was bad
[03:45] <thor> Vaalth  for the most part yes
[03:46] <college> Idle0ne: can i hack my pc so i can copy it
[03:46] <college> Idle0ne: do you know how i could do it/
[03:46] <college> ?
[03:46] <serenityUK> Syco54645: gnash is not meant for youtube...  just for free software monks lol...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924  will install adobe 32bit on 64bit
[03:46] <Vaalth> thor, what isnt compatible? i just need to be able to write a paper with a header, footer, etc and text formatting and be able to open it in word 2007
[03:46] <brontos> I need to know which packages are required to export mpeg in kino
[03:46] <Vaalth> is that possible?
[03:46] <bascule> Vaalth: save it as html :)
[03:47] <Syco54645> serenityUK, i thought that i just needed to run this script
[03:47]  * teh_mudkipz says hi
[03:47] <thor> Vaalth your best bet will be to save it as an older format...maybe word 2000 or word xp, that can also be read by word2007
[03:47] <nickrud> Ljorring, now, sudo aptitude reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx ubuntu-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) libgl1-mesa  . You aren't using the kernel module, so lets make sure you have the ubuntu stuff.
[03:47] <bazhang> can ms office open html?
[03:47] <serenityUK> Syco54645: yes i posted the same linnk twice lol incase u missed it
[03:47] <Vaalth> ah cool. is word 2003 supported?
[03:47] <college> Idle0ne: also can people reprogram a adsl box... i think soeme onw did
[03:47] <wagner_br|se> webcam!
[03:47] <Syco54645> serenityUK, ah ok.  thanks again
[03:47] <thor> Vaalth but I have often encountered problems with headers footers and tables
[03:47] <serenityUK> Syco np
[03:47] <bascule> bazhang: well a browser will, so it's readable :)
[03:47] <bazhang> college: offtopic
[03:48] <bazhang> bascule: good point ;}
[03:48] <serenityUK> Syco54645: forums are great.. look around
[03:48] <Ljorring> nickrud: done. status: no crash/error
[03:48] <Rico> hi
[03:48] <Vaalth> well thank you for your help :)
[03:48] <thor> Vaalth  word2003 xml is supported, but I don't think doc is
[03:48] <Syco54645> serenityUK, i did, i find them to be hard to search because they are too cluttered.  i had searched for about 20 minutes before i came into here.
[03:49] <nickrud> Ljorring, ok, now sudo modprobe fglrx . After that, log out and back in, and do the fglrxinfo again
[03:49] <Lennalf> I'm setting up ubuntu for the first time on a home theatre PC... I am not sure how to get ubuntu to recognize my USB RF wireless keyboard...
[03:49] <Lennalf> can anybody help?
[03:49] <nickrud> Ljorring, for fun, hit ctl-alt-backspace while you're logged out
[03:49] <Syco54645> serenityUK, been looking for why the show desktop in the compiz doesnt work either.  i tried to set it to a hot corner to no avail... it will show my application windows, just not the desktop
[03:49] <bascule> bazhang: I really am of the opinion that sending html docs to people is a way ahead for all compatibility issues
[03:49] <Ljorring> nickrud: just to understand a tiny bit... the 'modprobe fglrx' says 'use this driver', mkay?
[03:49] <Ljorring> nickrud:  mkay ^
[03:49] <bazhang> bascule: agreed
[03:50] <nickrud> Ljorring, not quite. It means use this kernel module, which the driver will make use of
[03:50] <bazhang> Lennalf: does it require certain drivers--try plugging it in
[03:50] <Ljorring> nickrud: ah, ok
[03:50] <Lennalf> bazhang: it comes with drivers on a CD, but it was plug-and-play on Windows XP
[03:51] <bazhang> Lennalf: plug in the base station and see if it works
[03:51] <nickrud> ok, do the fglrxinfo and hope for ati on the driver
[03:51] <Syco54645> serenityUK, well the flash player is fixed.  thanks again
[03:51] <Lennalf> sorry, base station?
[03:51] <Ljorring> nickrud: haha, what was that double ctrl+alt+backspace... 'the greeter thing crashed....' it popped up ^^
[03:51] <Ljorring> nickrud: done*
[03:51] <nickrud> Ljorring, that's KIll X Now
[03:52] <Lennalf> bazhang: sorry, base station?
[03:52] <sonja> how do i rename the keyboards in ubuntu? halp
[03:52] <Ljorring> nickrud: ahh...
[03:52] <serenityUK> Syco54645: nice one....  trying compiz here..  expo works if i set to top left corner bu not show deesktop hmmmm
[03:52] <nickrud> Ljorring, what about the last line of fglrx
[03:52] <Ljorring> nickrud: OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
[03:52] <bazhang> Lennalf: how does the wireless connect? to the cpu? likely to a dongle that you plug into a usb port, yes?
[03:52] <nickrud> Not good.
[03:52] <Ljorring> nickrud: damn..
[03:53] <Lennalf> bazhang: yes it is a USB dongle.  It is listed in my hardware information screen
[03:53] <Syco54645> serenityUK, that is the same boat i am in... finding all of these annoyances.  still better than windows though, linux has been for me for 7 years now.  windows free! WOOOOOOOO!  At any rate, I cannot figure out why the show desktop does not work.
[03:53] <chickenFuego> sonja, on the top right, click "System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layouts"
[03:53] <Syco54645> serenityUK, the button on the panel works but not the hot corners nor the key combo
[03:53] <nickrud> Ljorring, ok, put on the pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf  , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , the output of  lspci | grep -i vga
[03:53] <Ljorring> nickrud: on it
[03:54] <Lennalf> bazhang: It sees a Wireless Keyboard/Mouse in my USB UHCI Controller #2
[03:54] <sonja> chickenFuego:  ok i'm there, how do i rename them now?
[03:54] <bazhang> Lennalf: try syncing it with the keyboard--there should be buttons on both base station and keyboard that may need to be pressed simultaneously
[03:54] <serenityUK> Syco54645: hmmm   the button on the panel gives me a nice animation too.. they go to all 4 corners
[03:54] <nickrud> Ljorring, when you did that aptitude install run, did it talk about unpacking and setting up the packages?
[03:54] <sonja> for example if i pick U.S. English Dvorak and I want to just rename it to Dvorak
[03:54] <sonja> and U.S. English rename it to Qwerty
[03:54] <Lennalf> bazhang: hmm okay, I'll look...
[03:54] <Syco54645> serenityUK, so that means that it works, just not correctly.  i mean that is what it should do
[03:55] <bazhang> Lennalf: so it works now? if it is recognized then just try using it--othewise try the sync
[03:55] <sonja> so when i go and switch between keyboards it shows the name, rather than swapping between USA and USA2
[03:55] <DARKGuy> Does anybody knows a good player that can support shoutcast and uses WinAmp skins?
[03:55] <Lennalf> bazhang: I'll try to sync... the button isn't clear.... one says ID...
[03:55] <chickenFuego> sonja, click on the +Add button and you can select the keyboards you want from a huge list.
[03:55] <Ljorring> nickrud: I dont remember it so.. but not sure
[03:55] <maverickAlex> DARKGuy: xmms
[03:55] <serenityUK> Syco54645: ah....
[03:55] <bazhang> DARKGuy: winamp? :}
[03:55] <serenityUK> Syco54645: crtl-alt-D !
[03:55] <sonja> chickenFuego:  yes i added the ones i want. i want to rename them now.
[03:55] <DARKGuy> maverickAlex: but, does it have shoutcast integrated like BMPx?
[03:56] <DARKGuy> bazhang: lol yes, but emulating it through WINE is just silly :p
[03:56] <nickrud> Ljorring, run it again , you can do ctl-r fglrx to search back in the terminal for the command
[03:56] <maverickAlex> DARKGuy: it can stream shoutcast  but i don't know if its like BMPx
[03:56] <Lennalf> bazhang: no luck yet.  Thanks for your help btw :)
[03:56] <Syco54645> serenityUK, well it doesnt work if i try to set it to something.  and the hot corner does not work for that matter.  that is what i really want.
[03:56] <Ljorring> ok
[03:56] <DARKGuy> maverickAlex: well I guess I'll give it a try, thanks for the suggestion :p
[03:56] <serenityUK> Syco54645: if you goto general settings instead of the showdesktop plugin.....  then actions... there is  "Hide all windows and focus desktop" set to crtl-alt-D
[03:57] <bazhang> DARKGuy: not sure about the skins, but amarok/rhythmbox should support shoutcast
[03:57] <Ljorring> xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49110/
[03:57] <bazhang> Lennalf: what keyboard by the way
[03:57] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49110/
[03:57] <nadio> what family should Intel Duo 32bit be placed in?
[03:57] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.log.0 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49111/
[03:57] <maverickAlex> DARKGuy: check out streamtuner
[03:57] <Syco54645> serenityUK, what tool are you using.  i am using the gldesktop thing because the other is way too bloated for my tastes
[03:57] <Ljorring> nickrud: lspci | grep -i vga : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600]
[03:57] <bascule> nadio: a good and loving one
[03:57] <Lennalf> bazhang: It is the SpecResearch 01027; although the box actually says X-Gene :-P
[03:57] <DARKGuy> bazhang: I've tried rhythmbox and it doesn't, dunno about Amarok yet - maverickAlex: Okay I will
[03:58] <serenityUK> Syco54645: no i'm using the advanced one
[03:58] <serenityUK> Syco54645: still not triggering with corner but works on keyboard
[03:58] <nickrud> Ljorring, need to change the xorg.conf.  do this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg  , when it's done , sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and look for ati. Replace with fgrlx
[03:58] <nadio> bascule: for kernel configuration, I doubt there is one.
[03:58] <Syco54645> serenityUK, well that one krunks my settings.  i prefer the gldesktop.  at any rate, i think it may be a bug.
[03:59] <bascule> nadio: well yoy can built x86_64 if you want
[03:59] <Syco54645> serenityUK, the ctrl alt d isnt that bad to have to hit, i just miss my hot corners (has a mac at work)
[03:59] <Ljorring> nickrud: roger
[03:59]  * bascule has a finger failure
[03:59] <paxton> hello?
[03:59] <serenityUK> Syco54645: you can change it to something easier like  win+D
[03:59] <bascule> hi
[03:59] <bazhang> http://www.altgamer.org/?p=1496&page=4 Lennalf this one?
[04:00] <maverickAlex> Syco545654: you can set up the hot corners (If i am thinking of the same think as you)  with compiz
[04:00] <Ljorring> nickrud: done
[04:00] <paxton> can someone help me out with a unichrome pro resolution issue? I have tried EVERYTHING :9
[04:00] <Syco54645> serenityUK, i will do that tomorrow, i need to get up for work in a few hours.  maybe i will get sick
[04:00] <Syco54645> serenityUK, thanks again for the help
[04:00] <paxton> I just cant get higher than 800X600 and I have tried everything
[04:00] <Lennalf> bazhang: yes :)
[04:00] <serenityUK> Syco54645: cya.. happy youtubing lol
[04:00] <bascule> paxton: if you have tried *EVERYTHING*, then no, there is nothing left
[04:01] <paxton> *every thing I know*
[04:01] <paxton> can you at lest help me out? I am totaly lost :(
[04:01] <nickrud> Ljorring, now, do   find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)  -iname '*fglrx*'  , delete any you find. We're still using the wrong kernel module.
[04:01] <mrdinkles> Using ubuntu 7.10. Created a separate partition and installed another OS onto it, How do i put that partition on the grub bootloader?
[04:01] <bazhang> Lennalf: the writer of that article seems to suggest that it is no prob with ubuntu
[04:02] <Ljorring> nickrud: I found two files. I am to manually remove them?
[04:02] <bascule> paxton: tried xorg.conf changes, dpkg-reconfigureand all that stuff?
[04:02] <nickrud> Ljorring, yes. Once we're sure we've gotten rid of any possible bad one, we'll reinstall the right one
[04:02] <bazhang> mrdinkles: have you seen the GRUB factoid?
[04:02] <Ljorring> nickrud: sounds good to me :)
[04:02] <Ljorring> nickrud: on it
[04:02] <paxton> Yes, I have changed xorg.conf to driver via
[04:03] <paxton> and it boots xwindow, but no higher resolutions
[04:03] <mrdinkles> bazhang: nope, what is it?
[04:03] <paxton> it only goes to 800 x 600 and lower
[04:03] <Ljorring> nickrud: done
[04:03] <bazhang> !grub | mrdinkles
[04:03] <ubotu> mrdinkles: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:03] <bascule> paxton: have you added higher resolutions on the relevent sections of xorg?
[04:03] <Lennalf> bazhang: yeah... hmm :(  I guess I'll just keep tinkering.  Thanks for the help though.
[04:03] <Ljorring> nickrud: I am to do the sudoapt on the fglrx now?
[04:03] <paxton> i dont think so
[04:03] <nickrud> Ljorring, sudo aptitude reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) libgl1-mesa
[04:03] <paxton> How could I do that?
[04:03] <bascule> paxton: that's what to do then
[04:04] <paxton> How?
[04:04] <nickrud> Ljorring, watch for the unpacking and setting up
[04:04] <mrdinkles> is ubotu a bot?
[04:04] <bazhang> lennalf was it plugged in when you started up? just a thought
[04:04] <robdig> mrdinkles: yes
[04:04] <mrdinkles> thanks ^^
[04:04] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, done now. it was working for a bit
[04:04] <Ljorring> nickrud: unpacking, installing etc...
[04:04] <nickrud> Ljorring, now, reboot
[04:04] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, brb
[04:04] <bascule> well tyoe them in in the section labled "Screen"
[04:04] <paxton> I think i added more resolution options, but they dont show up in prefrences > resolution
[04:04] <bazhang> mrdinkles: if you need a better walkthrough let me know
[04:05] <UbuntMe> bascule:  its npt very clear
[04:05] <bascule> UbuntMe: what isn't?
[04:05] <mrdinkles> bazhang: thanks, im readin through it
[04:05] <paxton> Im completely lost and I almost want to go back to windows. I just cant figure this out
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: If you paste your xorg into the pastebin (Not into this channel) and give the link it will help them help you
[04:05] <bascule> paxton: paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf to some pastebin
[04:06] <paxton> whats a pastebin?
[04:06] <bascule> !pastebin | paxton
[04:06] <ubotu> paxton: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp mrdinkles
[04:06] <UbuntMe> bascule:  xine
[04:06] <bascule> UbuntMe: as in picture quality or usability?
[04:07] <UbuntMe> bascule:  kinda blury and not very smooth
[04:07] <bascule> UbuntMe: works for me
[04:07] <sqlnoob> Hi there, I just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to set up my wireless connection and it doesn't give me a connection, hehe..
[04:07] <Ljorring> nickrud: done.. I think something is wrong. Im running 320x200 resolution now I think :)
[04:07] <UbuntMe> bascule:   ya, works
[04:07] <paxton> ok
[04:07] <paxton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49112/
[04:07] <Vad3> How can I shut down apache thats on localhost?
[04:08] <nickrud> Ljorring, lol, that would be bad. paste up the log file, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , log out and back in
[04:08] <maverickAlex> Vad3: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[04:08] <sqlnoob> im in network settings, i filled out the ESSID, they password type for the wireless connection and a static IP (dynamic doesnt work either)
[04:08] <sqlnoob> the* password type
[04:08] <Vad3> Thanks maverick
[04:09] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49113/
[04:09] <Ljorring> nickrud: brb
[04:10] <CarlFK> paxton: why? (your question sounds odd)
[04:10] <onats> which vmware version should i download, running ubuntu 7.10, 64 bit version
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: what kind of a monitor are you running
[04:10] <bascule> paxton: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , paste thet to a shell, take your time
[04:10] <paxton> an lcd
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: Make and model
[04:10] <Ljorring> nickrud: done
[04:10] <jwpaine_> looking for a lite ubuntu installation disk.... is there such thing as a ubuntu network install disk, similar to debian's netinstall disk which is 164MB ?
[04:10] <paxton> gateway mx3231
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: and that card needs to drop back to 16 bit depth
[04:10] <CarlFK> paxton: er, sorry, wrong person...
[04:10] <Ljorring> nickrud: I am still running ms-dos resolution (8
[04:11] <paxton> what?
[04:11] <paxton> i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg in konsle
[04:11] <sqlnoob> nobody then? huh, ok thanks
[04:11] <paxton> then what
[04:11] <nickrud> Ljorring, I hate those ati installers.
[04:11] <bazhang> sqlnoob: for apache?
[04:11] <Ljorring> nickrud: I think.. I feel alike hehe
[04:11] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: server install is the smallest.. about 500mb, just command line no X
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: Laptop?
[04:11] <tsukasa_> hey guys, anyone know of something that i can install to host aim to a webserver
[04:12] <paxton> yes laptop
[04:12] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: i use that on my old laptop
[04:12] <Xamuzk> what the hell is console-kit-daemon?
[04:12] <sqlnoob> bazhang: no, to make my wireless work in a brand new installation
[04:12] <paxton> woa I just ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and told it via driver
[04:12] <paxton> it made the screen go screwy and then it came back
[04:13] <bazhang> sqlnoob: sorry; what wireless card
[04:13] <Extravert> anyone here use gpg?
[04:13] <pope22> i'm having sound problems (as i could tell many have after perusing the forums). My headphone jack works, but the speakers do not, even when jack is removed.  However, i am at a loss after trying the suggested fixes. I ran alsamixer, "speakers" were indeed muted, but after toggling them on (and rebooting for good measure) nothing. I also ran aplay -l, and from what i read my results were supposedly what they should, as far as i had r
[04:13] <nickrud> Ljorring, a sec
[04:13] <paxton> ok it spit this out:
[04:13] <paxton>  overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[04:13] <paxton>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071220231245
[04:13] <sqlnoob> bazhang: bult-in from dell...
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: tell it vesa mode 1024 max res and if asked 16 bit depth
[04:13] <Xamuzk> I have many of those processes running, but ps only reports one, but htop reports dozens of them
[04:13] <jwpaine_> serenityUK: no... not installation size - installation /disk/ size. I don't want to use a fat ubuntu live desktop installation gui.... plus it has seemed buggy in the past....are there any ubuntu netinstall disks or non-x installation disks?
[04:13] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, i will try some console stuff meanwhile
[04:13] <Ahmuck> how do i get apt to use a local repository?
[04:13] <sqlnoob> bazhang: it's dual boot, from windows it works fine, from ubuntu it doesnt
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: Do you have a link to your laptop secs.. as in refresh rate for v & h
[04:14] <bazhang> sqlnoob: open a terminal and type lspci--that should give the card make and model --just tell me dont paste here
[04:14] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: the alternate install disk is without lice cd but still fullsize .iso im afraid
[04:14] <paxton> No I do not, I know the screen is 1024 X 768 at 60 hertz
[04:14] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: *liveCD...
[04:15] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: alternate is text mode installer for lower memory etc
[04:15] <CarlFK> is "packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic"  causing  "libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000040gl " ? http://dpaste.com/28716/
[04:15] <jwpaine_> serenityUK: ok.. so the alt install disk: thanks
[04:15] <sqlnoob> bazhang: broadcom mini-PCI
[04:15] <bazhang> sqlnoob: broadcom 4311?
[04:15] <serenityUK> jwpaine_: yes it is recommended for less than 256.. also gives more control over install
[04:15] <bascule> CarlFK: no a broken nvidia driver is causing that
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: tell it vesa mode 1024 max res and if asked 16 bit depth
[04:16] <paxton> wait
[04:16] <sqlnoob> bazhang: 4401
[04:16] <paxton> look at the new xorg.conf
[04:16] <paxton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49114/
[04:16] <mutable> hi all. what controls output format size of ps? i have trimmed output of "ps -e" ---> "5698 ?        00:00:00 evolution-excha"
[04:16] <pope22> how can i adjust the suround sound settings in Gutsy? I didn't see option for this in Preferences>Sound
[04:17] <sqlnoob> bazhang: 4401-B0 to be exact
[04:17] <bascule> mutable: format size?
[04:17] <tsukasa_> hey guys, anyone know of something that i can install to host aim to a webserver
[04:17] <mutable> bascule: ok, column size (?)
[04:17] <bascule> mutable: you want to see more chars per column? If so I dunnin if you can
[04:18] <paxton> is that xorg.conf safe to reboot the xwindow session with?
[04:18] <nickrud> Ljorring, put up your xorg.conf again, and the output of aptitude search fglrx and aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-ati
[04:18] <paxton> or should I hurry up and restore the origional
[04:18] <bascule> mutable: except with a bigger console :)
[04:18] <CarlFK> bascule: how can I go back to previous version from before I apt-get upgrad ed ?
[04:18] <Ljorring> nickrud: on it
[04:18] <mrdinkles> bazhang: yep... i did it wrong, thats okay though, that one tutorial was really effective- even had screenshots ^^ thanks
[04:19] <bascule> CarlFK: I wish I knew, it is hard to roll back I think there is a version < switch to dpkg, hang on
[04:19] <mutable> bascule: i have big console, the output of "ps -e" is trimmed, CMD column
[04:19] <bazhang> mrdinkles: great news!
[04:19] <Ljorring> nickrud: search fglrx :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49115/
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> paxton: I dont see any resolutions in that config...          So one last time... tell it vesa mode           1024 max res                       and if asked 16 bit depth
[04:19] <mutable> bascule: i see "evolution-data-" instead of "evolution-data-server"
[04:19] <bazhang> sqlnoob: no, that is the ethernet card--you have the 4311; here is a link http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[04:20] <Ljorring> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49116/ <--- xorg.cond
[04:20] <musikgoat> is there a better video playing combo than totem-xine ?  i can see a noticable difference between a dvd played in that and played from windows?   is there a better player to work with deCSS?
[04:20] <Ljorring> nickrud: conf*
[04:20] <bazhang> sqlnoob: and another link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459684
[04:20] <Extravert> anyone use GPG?
[04:20] <bazhang> bye Jack_Sparrow
[04:20] <bazhang> Extravert: that is your question? you are allowed only one you know
[04:20] <sqlnoob> bazhang: the 4311? how do u know that? i don't see that in the lspci, im so noob at this
[04:20] <musikgoat> nn Jack_Sparrow i'm about to watch pirates 3, is it worth it ^_^
[04:20] <Delvien> Ok.. Gutsy laptop , running an e100 intel ethernet card, the link goes up and down and most times I do not have internet/networking
[04:20] <semaja2> anyone have any ideas on why applications like tuxpaint and gcompris wont load *they start to load in the terminal but stop* but other applications like blackjack work fine
[04:20] <Extravert> bazhang: lol
[04:21] <sqlnoob> bazhang: thanks tho! I'm going to go and read on what you sent me
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: Very much so...
[04:21] <Extravert> bazhang: you know how to use GPG?
[04:21] <musikgoat> hehe
[04:21] <bazhang> sqlnoob: no worries :}
[04:21] <Ljorring> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49117/ <--- search xserver-xorg-video-ati
[04:21] <bazhang> Extravert: that is your question? yes I do
[04:21] <semaja2> anyone?
[04:21] <hockeyfan5000> semaja2:  I am not sure, my son uses tuxpaint and he is 3 and never has any problems
[04:21] <sqlnoob> bazhang: mine is a 1720 Inspiron, does it work the same way? that's why i said it's a 4401
[04:21] <Extravert> bazhang: gpg doesnt work in the console so how else could I use it?
[04:22] <semaja2> it was working fine, but then today it wont work :S
[04:22] <musikgoat> anyone else notice the quality difference in playing a dvd in ubuntu vs windows?
[04:22] <nickrud> Ljorring, I found out that your 9600 has a bug that sometimes shows up when using the ati driver.
[04:22] <kahrytan> musikgoat➲  which one is better?
[04:22] <hockeyfan5000> musikgoat I havent seen any
[04:22] <Extravert> bazhang: I tried decrypting my file and the console keeps jamming up
[04:22] <nickrud> Ljorring, so, run restricted-manager , and tell it to install the restricted ati driver
[04:22] <bascule> CarlFK: seems to be no downgrade facility, well no easy way, perhaps you need to update everything?
[04:22] <musikgoat> my quality of dvd's in totem-xine is pretty fuzzy
[04:22] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, I will disable, then re-enable it
[04:23] <JensenDied> so, kernel upgrade issue, one worked fine, one did not.
[04:23] <Ljorring> nickrud: thats the procedure?
[04:23] <hockeyfan5000> musikgoat, you sure your using the right video driver?
[04:23] <Extravert> bazhang: it is fixed in the newer versions but im just wondering if theres a way around it
[04:23] <kahrytan> musikgoat➲  did you try vlc?
[04:23] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gnome/gpgp Extravert; also http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Chip/3708/gpgp/gpgp.html
[04:23] <nickrud> Ljorring, run restricted-manager in a terminal, it should have a checkbox for using the restricted driver
[04:23] <musikgoat> let me install that, i didn't give it a try, that should work
[04:23] <CarlFK> bascule: um... isn't that was "sudo apt-get upgrade" does?
[04:23] <musikgoat> thanks kahrytan
[04:23] <kahrytan> musikgoat➲  I dont have an dvds myself :(
[04:23] <Ljorring> nickrud: oh, its not checked.. I will check the proprietary driver now
[04:24] <bascule> CarlFK: yeah, well it seems to be a bug, is this when you run a game?
[04:24] <bazhang> sqlnoob: 4401 is the ethernet driver
[04:24] <Ljorring> nickrud: 'needs a computer restart' <-- brb
[04:24] <earlmred> hmm, off my sw raid5 w/ 4 7200.10 500GB drives, i'm getting 136MB/s reads, 56MB/s writes ...
[04:24] <earlmred> does that seem right?
[04:24] <kahrytan> musikgoat➲  but keep in mine. Linux uses libdvdcss2 .. ie a crack to css.
[04:24] <sqlnoob> bazhang: oh yeah my bad, sorry
[04:24] <musikgoat> thanks
[04:25] <CarlFK> bascule: it's when X starts
[04:25] <bascule> CarlFK: nasty
[04:25] <Extravert> bazhang: so I have to install the new version?
[04:25] <bazhang> Extravert: are you on Gutsy?
[04:25] <Extravert> bazhang: ya
[04:26]  * musikgoat <3 vlc!!  thanks kahrytan
[04:26] <bazhang> Extravert: that is the front end, ie the gui
[04:26] <Extravert> bazhang: oh thanks =)
[04:26] <kahrytan> musikgoat➲  I love vlc too. plays most codecs thrown at it. no need to install gstreamer codecs.
[04:26] <bazhang> Extravert: no worries ;}
[04:27] <nickrud> vlc runs really nice for dvd's as well. Can't believe I only started using it a few months ago
[04:27] <Delvien> Ok.. Gutsy laptop , running an e100 intel ethernet card, the link goes up and down and most times I do not have internet/networking, I cant seem to get internet nor networking to work correctly on this laptop, anyone have an idea
[04:27] <alain> hi guys.. got this problem.. i already installed the restricted driver but still cant to display .. it works b4 but after i installed the nvidia driver from nvidia website cant make it work again
[04:27] <bascule> CarlFK: I read the paste,only thing for now is to go back to nv driver in xorg.conf
[04:27] <Ljorring> nickrud: now I got my 1280z1024 up running again
[04:27] <hockeyfan5000> Delvien:  Did you try to manually set a static IP address?
[04:27] <bazhang> Delvien: could it be a router issue?
[04:27] <nickrud> Ljorring, what does fglrxinfo say?
[04:27] <Ljorring> nickrud: I have sensed a difference now. the graphics seem to run smoother
[04:28] <jwpaine_> I'm surprised with how popular Ubuntu is, that they don't have a netinstall :(
[04:28] <Delvien> hocketfan5000 actually trying that now, :P
[04:28] <Ljorring> nickrud: OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[04:28] <nickrud> Ljorring, sucess!
[04:28] <Ljorring> nickrud: great stuff xD
[04:28] <Delvien> bazhang router is fine, other 2-3 computers are accessing the internet and pinging eachother
[04:28] <JensenDied> kernel seems to not be mounting /proc and failing on others after that
[04:28] <chickenFuego> Delvien, you might try "sudo echo 'blacklist intel_rng' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklistand reboot.
[04:28] <nickrud> Ljorring, now, sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager emerald . Log out and back in
[04:29] <bazhang> Delvien: you using the network manager? or via command line
[04:29] <Delvien> bazhang net manager
[04:29] <chickenFuego> Delvien, you might try "sudo echo 'blacklist intel_rng' >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklistand" reboot.
[04:29] <Delvien> chickenfuego is that a known issue with that card or something?
[04:29] <Ljorring> nickrud: whats with the emerald?
[04:29] <chickenFuego> Delvien, with the two >> !!!
[04:29] <chrisn_> hey
[04:29] <CarlFK> bascule: nv doesn't error, but now I don't get any output on the svideo port
[04:29] <nickrud> Ljorring, it's a pretty window decorator, it'll be in the preferences menu
[04:29] <Ljorring> nickrud: I have never had that package installed I can see
[04:29] <Ljorring> nickrud: nice :)
[04:29] <bazhang> Delvien: is this the computer you are on now? if so, how are you connected; if not, can you access that computer now
[04:29] <Ljorring> nickrud: relogging
[04:30] <Delvien> bazhang no its another laptop i have connected to ethernet
[04:30] <chickenFuego> Delvien, some ethernet wireless card on laptop have a problem with this (intel), It was making mycard hanging on boot and sometimes unstable.
[04:30] <Delvien> bazhang yes i can access it
[04:30] <bascule> CarlFK: yeah, it's a workaround not a fix, a fix is way beyond me, but you could try a manual nvidia install with their own package
[04:30] <bazhang> Delvien: open network, wep, wpa, wpa2 what
[04:30] <Ljorring> nickrud: now the graphics seem slow again... :S
[04:30] <bascule> CarlFK: after removing the ubunto one fo course
[04:31] <Delvien> bazhang its not wireless, its ethernet
[04:31] <bazhang> Ljorring: turn off compiz :}
[04:31] <nickrud> Ljorring, do alt-f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace
[04:31] <nickrud> bazhang, ;p
[04:31] <Ljorring> nickrud: but the fglrx says OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[04:31] <bazhang> Delvien: ethernet wont work? I thought this was a wireless question...
[04:31] <Delvien> bazhang nope, ethernet
[04:31] <chickenFuego> Delvien, if you have the same message on boot with your intel network card... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/102982
[04:32] <Ljorring> nickrud: done
[04:32] <bazhang> Delvien: do you start up the computer with the ethernet cable plugged in, or plug it in after start up
[04:32] <Extravert> bazhang: the app is so unstable. Just crashed and it doesnt import my key files
[04:32] <nickrud> Ljorring, you should have different window borders
[04:32] <Ljorring> nickrud: the settings work xD though I feel some lag
[04:32] <Ljorring> nickrud: yep, I got some nasty red borders ^^
[04:33] <Delvien> bazhang with it already plugged in
[04:33] <Ljorring> nickrud: there is something, that my adapter doesnt like. I will have to investigate that
[04:33] <Ljorring> nickrud: but else it seems as if the compiz is working
[04:33] <bazhang> Extravert: you want to import key files? from a trusted source? how about wget
[04:33] <nickrud> Ljorring, it's even worse with the new ati drivers.  Go to the emerald preference, pick a different one.  then alt-f2 emerald --replace to change it
[04:33] <Extravert> bazhang: its on my computer
[04:34] <bazhang> Extravert: you want to import keys?
[04:34] <Ahmuck> if i want to use an aptoncd backup for my packages, can i just insert a cdrom line in my sources.list?
[04:34] <Extravert> bazhang: yes
[04:34] <bazhang> Extravert: from a trusted source?
[04:34] <Extravert> bazhang: /.gnupg/secring.gpg
[04:35] <bazhang> Extravert: import means from an outside source, right?
[04:35] <bascule> Ahmuck: there is a way to do it specifically, can't remeber off hand bit synaptics/adept allow you to do this throught the sources options
[04:35] <Ljorring> nickrud: some of the other emerald borders doesnt like it
[04:35] <Ljorring> nickrud: can I for debugging turn of emerald?
[04:36] <Extravert> bazhang: "Bad fd number"
[04:36] <Delvien> chickenFuego that is for an ethernet card right?
[04:36] <nickrud> Ljorring, it's probable that there's some file left over from the ati installer, I don't know where though
[04:37] <bazhang> http://www.stillhq.com/extracted/gnupg-api/doc/faq.html Extravert take a read of that
[04:37] <chickenFuego> no the FWH bug was for wireless intel card, but it is related to the random numbers generator or so.. might be also on yours? Check the if you get the FWH error message on bootmaybe?
[04:37] <Ljorring> nickrud: the emerrald effect is cool  :)
[04:37] <Extravert> bazhang: dead link =(
[04:37] <nickrud> Ljorring, yes, you can alter the themes yourself too
[04:37] <Ljorring> nickrud: I have gotten compiz to work now, and I am truly thankful for your time, nickrud
[04:38] <Ljorring> nickrud: but there is something crreating huge lag in the interface
[04:38] <Ljorring> nickrud: I will investigate that matter tomorrow...
[04:38] <Extravert> bazhang: I should install 1.4.8 then
[04:38] <nickrud> Ljorring, like I said, something left over most likely
[04:38] <verb3k> The new flash plguin is really slow, can anyboy tell me how to get the older version?
[04:38] <bazhang> http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/faqs.html Extravert
[04:38] <Ljorring> nickrud: do you know how to find it?
[04:39] <stuporglu1> Anyone know what font Gvim uses by default?
[04:39] <bascule> some mono space
[04:39] <Old_Gregg> Hello.  I'm getting no sound on my interweb browser.
[04:39] <stuporglu1> bascule: yeah, I've got 100+ fonts on my system though and I can't find which one it is :-/
[04:40] <nickrud> Ljorring, not off the top of my head
[04:40] <chickenFuego> Old_Gregg, within a flash video in your browser, you might have to right-click on it and select "allow access to ..."
[04:40] <Ljorring> nickrud: mkay
[04:40] <nickrud> Ljorring, if nothing else, you've learned the danger of installing stuff that's not in a deb package :)
[04:41] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[04:41] <verb3k> please anybody.....The new flash plugin is really slow, can anyboy tell me how to get the older version?
[04:41] <Old_Gregg> chickenfuego: no luck
[04:41] <Delvien> chickenFuego heres the error "FWH not detected"
[04:42] <sonja> how do i install a bunch of TTF fonts i have on another hard drive to my ubuntu?
[04:42] <sonja> can i drag and drop them somewhere?
[04:42] <Ljorring> nickrud: yes, ofc :) and I have gotten smarter on the driver area
[04:42] <Notos> hai !!! quick question what kernel should i install for a Intel Q6600 *(Quad Core)
[04:42] <chickenFuego> Delvien, do you have a lag at boot when it is displaying that?
[04:42] <Oddie_grove> #manado
[04:42] <Dr_willis> sonja,  in the fonts:// or fonts:/ dir is one way.
[04:42] <sonja> okay
[04:42] <Ljorring> nickrud: what I really would miss in ubuntu, is an interface from where you could manage all the driver issues
[04:42] <sonja> i'll hunt for that dir
[04:43] <Ashfire908> Notos, standard?
[04:43] <Delvien> chickenFuego not noticable, but lanchpad is telling me to blacklist intel_nrg so..
[04:43] <Dr_willis> sonja,  enter it in the file manager.
[04:43] <Oddie_grove> #kristen
[04:43] <chickenFuego> lauchpad??
[04:43] <anton___> Hey, I'm wondering if I could partition my drive post-installation, and then install windows on that new partition...?
[04:43] <Ljorring> nickrud: cause you have to know the location of all the files & commands related to a driver issue
[04:43] <Old_Gregg> I have sound on World of Warcraft and up until tonight had sound on the internet
[04:43] <Notos> Ashfire908, no im using Debootstarp as in the FakeRaid Howto
[04:43] <Ljorring> nickrud: but thx for ur help :) I will surf around a bit
[04:44] <nickrud> Ljorring, for nearly every driver, it's all automated. Just the ones from manufacturers that won't release specs are problematic
[04:44] <ifireball> sonja: System->Preferences->Fonts->Details->Go to Fonts Folder
[04:44] <sonja> how do i open this file manager?
[04:44] <sonja> Dr_willis?
[04:44] <Ashfire908> notos: ? idk then
[04:44] <Ljorring> nickrud: perhaps its also just me
[04:44] <Ljorring> nickrud: im new to ubuntu
[04:44] <signal9> After an update this morning, including a new kernel and headers, I can no longer load the nvidia graphics drivier
[04:44] <ultraz> sonja where are you from ?
[04:45] <sonja> Toronto
[04:45] <nickrud> Ljorring, so it's impractical to build handlers for unknown crap. No, it was that ati driver install
[04:45] <Notos> Ashfire908: well i think i will go with the apt-get linux-386 :(
[04:45] <sonja> (Canadia)
[04:45] <ultraz> nice name ...
[04:45] <kajsdklajsd> hello, how can i access the folder /Users/My Documents/ from an ubuntu livecd, i can see any other folder but some of the folders in /Users/My Documents/, is there anyway of jumping over the permissions? (sorry if this question is out of place)
[04:45] <Nergar> hello
[04:45] <sonja> you, ultraz?
[04:45] <nickrud> signal9, are you using the ones from nvidia?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> sonja,  the normal gnome file manager.. you use it every time ya click on a directory icon... type in fonts:/ in the address
[04:45] <ultraz> Serbia
[04:45] <hamadooo> hi guys
[04:45] <paxton> Ok, that was close
[04:45] <sonja> ok thanks willis
[04:45]  * nickrud is a masochist
[04:46] <anton___> any way to make a partition post-installation? and then install another os on that partition...
[04:46] <signal9> yes, though installed using the restricted driver manager
[04:46] <Ashfire908> notos: oh. is your sys a 64-bit?
[04:46] <paxton> i tried using the vesa driver, and It kept saying there was an xwindow running allready
[04:46] <Dr_willis> sonja,  installing/removing fonts under linux is so much nicer then how windows does it. :)
[04:46] <Delvien> chickenfuego by blacklisting that it halfed my boot time, so i guess it was slowing it down lol
[04:46] <Nergar> i have a problem, i updated my system today (i saw some linux headers in the updates), restarted and now it wont boot. Grub says: File not found
[04:46] <hamadooo> i got an error msg everytime i open the ubuntu it's about the setting deamon ..... and when i restart the computer everything goes alright
[04:46] <chickenFuego> Delvien, so  and is your card stable now??
[04:46] <paxton> It kept saying that so i changed the xorg.conf back to via driver and it booted, but still in low res
[04:46] <ultraz> Dr_willis: never did it, i will give it a try
[04:47] <soulsucker> Hi all... i have a minor issue..I just installed 64 bit version of ubuntu... and I can not get flash videos to play in firefox... swf and flash player and java are installed..any suggestions...?
[04:47] <Notos> Ashfire908: good question but i dont think so as i am runing the x86 live cd
[04:47] <Delvien> chickenfuego looks like it
[04:47] <Delvien> chickenfuego ill come back if its not :)
[04:47] <paxton> it also poped up a window when I stared up Ubuntu saying it was in low graphics mode
[04:47] <Ashfire908> notos: then the 386 is fine.
[04:47] <Ashfire908> notos: *the 386 is fine.
[04:47] <nickrud> signal9, then you're using the ubuntu ones. My tidbit wouldn't help, sorry
[04:47] <paxton> I changed it to a higher resolution, tested it, and it worked
[04:47] <hamadooo> i got an error msg everytime i open the ubuntu it's about the setting deamon ..... and when i restart the computer everything goes alright?
[04:47] <paxton> then it went back to 800 by 600
[04:47] <paxton> now i am lost again
[04:48] <alain> guys i have enabled the restricted driver.. but still cant work..
[04:48] <kr00l> can someone help me install a .tar.bz2 file?
[04:48] <rainwalker> kr00l: what's the file?
[04:48] <Notos> Ashfire908, so it takes advantage of the 4 cores?
[04:48] <paxton> Can someone help me fix my resolution then.?
[04:49] <kr00l> rainwalker: it's a "mupen64-0.5.tar.bz2"
[04:49] <hamadooo> anyone knows about the setting deamon ???
[04:49] <verb3k> kr00l, that file is an archive, it is like .zip and can contain anything from source code to executables
[04:49] <ifireball> hamadooo: what about it?
[04:49] <alain> paxton have u installed the restricted drivers
[04:49] <rainwalker> kr00l: never heard of it...what is it?
[04:49] <paxton> I think so, ill check again
[04:49] <Ashfire908> Notos: 386 is the processor architecture. the amount of cores doesn't matter
[04:49] <kr00l> Nintendo 64 emulator
[04:49] <signal9> so, I'm wondering if this morning's kernel updates just bork the nvidia driver outright?
[04:49] <kr00l> rainwalker: can you help me install it
[04:49] <paxton> IT says it has no restricted drivers
[04:50] <verb3k> kr00l, right click and "extract here" and see what you get
[04:50] <hamadooo> ifireball .. i have an error msg everytime i try to log in .. and it tells me to restart and when i restart everything goes alright
[04:50] <rainwalker> kr00l: well first I'd say to extract the archive and see if there's anything in it telling you how to install
[04:50] <bazhang> kr00l: problematic with Ubuntu--install at your own risk
[04:50] <paxton> but I am still at 800 by 600 :(
[04:50] <alain> wat video card are u using
[04:50] <Ashfire908> Notos: (except the cell processor in the ps3. (8 are cell cores and one is powerpc))
[04:50] <rainwalker> bazhang: what's problematic?
[04:50] <paxton> I am using a via unichrome pro igp s3
[04:50] <kr00l> rainwalker: OK
[04:50] <bazhang> rainwalker: mupen :}
[04:50] <Notos> Ashfire908, oh thanks the so no need to complie a kernel after install ?
[04:50] <rainwalker> bazhang: how so?
[04:51] <ifireball> hamadooo: can you log in after you restart?
[04:51] <bazhang> rainwalker: doesnot work
[04:51] <nickrud> the kernel is the one thing they should release new instead of updating, at least you could go back to the old one
[04:51] <Ashfire908> Notos, why do you think you need to?
[04:51] <rainwalker> bazhang: ah...I can see how that might be problematic haha
[04:51] <bazhang> hehe
[04:51] <hamadooo> ifireball yes i can .. but i have to restart the computer everytime i open the ubuntu
[04:51] <paxton> can someone help me then
[04:51] <Old_Gregg> Hello.  Can someone help me?  I have no sound whatsoever.
[04:51] <sqlnoob> bazhang: :( I got the firmware but i havent been able to install it so I can enable the card, i've looked online but when i do "sudo make install" the packet throws C programming errors
[04:51] <Ashfire908> !ask
[04:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:52] <sqlnoob> bazhang: I don't think my install is working as it should =/
[04:52] <IdleOne> !sound | Old_Gregg
[04:52] <ubotu> Old_Gregg: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:52] <Notos> Ashfire908, i dont know before when Warty was new there where linux-image-dual and the like if i remeber corectly
[04:52] <Old_Gregg> Scratch that, I have sound in World of Warcraft, but no where else.
[04:52] <paxton> I asked if someone would help me fix my resolution, but nobody is helping :(
[04:52] <hamadooo> ifireball it's some thing about gnome .. cuz when i tells me the error msg .. i lost all the icon and color
[04:52]  * nickrud hugs his laptop, it's so generic
[04:52] <ifireball> hamadooo: let me see if I get this right: comp on -> log in -> log out -> can`t log in back ?
[04:52] <jhhh> hi
[04:52] <rainwalker> nickrud: what laptop?
[04:53] <jhhh> i fanyone is here i need a hand with something kind of newb :/
[04:53]  * paxton bashes his laptop with a thick book. he now hates via
[04:53] <rainwalker> jhhh: go ahead and ask
[04:53] <jhhh> I just installed tonight to check out an alternative to vista because i think its total garbage
[04:53] <IdleOne> jhhh: the any key is actualy not on the keyboard. use the enter key instead
[04:53] <nickrud> rainwalker, a gateway  (looks at the bottom) mt6451
[04:53] <jhhh> and i somehow corrupted my display -- and i cant see anything on it now, and i cant figure out a way to reset it to defaults :/
[04:53] <Old_Gregg> Idleone:  I have no sound in anything but World of Warcraft, which leads one to believe (and I have verified) all settings are go.  Additionally, I had sound last night.  Now I don't.  Nothing has changed.
[04:53] <jhhh> IdleOne  :P
[04:53] <rainwalker> nickrud: Inspiron 8600 haha
[04:53] <ifireball> hamadooo: these errors usually come about when it has trouble reading/writing to your home dir
[04:53] <hamadooo> ifireball first time i log in it gives me an error msg that gnome could not find something and you have to restart the computer in order to fix the problem
[04:53] <nickrud> rainwalker, the salesman let me boot an ubuntu live cd
[04:53] <zubaer> how do i check load cycles on ubuntu?
[04:53] <Ashfire908> Notos, warty was a looooonnnnggggg time ago.... (i started using ubuntu at 6.10)
[04:54] <Ljorring> nickrud: my now installed drivers, fglrx, seem to do just fine without xgl - and without the desktop effects. when I then install the xgl without effects, it seems to lag, like something is wrong... can you come up with a hint?
[04:54] <IdleOne> jhhh: not that noob? :P
[04:54] <jhhh> if anyone can show me how to kill my gnome settings id appreciate it
[04:54] <Ashfire908> Notos, you don't nned to compile
[04:54] <bazhang> sqlnoob: which thing did you install? the firmware from the repos? or something else
[04:54] <Nergar> i have a problem, i updated my system today (i saw some linux headers in the updates), restarted and now it wont boot. Grub says: File not found
[04:54] <paxton> omg... so nobody is going to help me with the resolution on my via unichrome pro igp s3 then
[04:54] <rainwalker> jhhh: why do you want to do that?
[04:54] <nickrud> Ljorring, let me see both logs, maybe something will jump out
[04:54] <jhhh> i tried killing .gnome .gnome2, etc...but it keeps going to the edited settings
[04:54] <hamadooo> ifireball ok and do you know how can i fix this problem
[04:54] <zubaer> how do i check load cycles?
[04:54] <jhhh> well i want my screen back so i can see :>
[04:54] <IdleOne> Old_Gregg: I know the factoid. that about it sorry
[04:54] <Ljorring> nickrud: ok, 2 sec
[04:54] <Old_Gregg> paxton: relax.  be patient.  You aren't the only one in here.
[04:54] <alain> guys.. i installed the nvidia driver from nvidia site but it doesnt work.. so i installed the restricted driver again.. now i cant make it work again.. anyone knows?
[04:55] <sqlnoob> bazhang: I haven't been able to install it lol, it's sitting on my desktop, I tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 and nothing yet
[04:55] <ifireball> hamadooo: and once you've restarted you can log in fine? so when do you get it again?
[04:55] <paxton> I understand that, but I have messed with this all day, and every thing i try doesnt work
[04:55] <ifireball> hamadooo: well, we still need to figure out what the problem is exactly...
[04:55] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49122/
[04:55] <rainwalker> paxton: have you checked the forums too? I've seen a lot of stuff about resolution problems on there
[04:55] <bazhang> sqlnoob: from what source? the software repositories, or something downloaded off the web?
[04:55] <nickrud> jhhh, log out , hit ctl-alt-f1 , log in, type killall gconfd-2 , the rm ~/.gconfd
[04:55] <Notos> Ashfire908, well thanks may be i will compile one just for fun :P
[04:55] <paxton> yes, I have checked everywhere on ubuntu forums and google
[04:55] <nickrud> jhhh, clt-alt-f7 to get back to the login
[04:55] <hamadooo> ifireball yeah when i restart i be fine .. i have the problem only the first time i open the computer
[04:56] <jhhh> nickrud ill try that now
[04:56] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.conf --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49123/
[04:56] <Nergar> no one is having the same issue?
[04:56] <Delvien> anyone have a clue how to fix this : http://pastebin.com/m70ea34a8 (GNOME-SYSTEM-MONITOR) error, will not start
[04:56] <sqlnoob> bazhang: from that tuto link
[04:56] <Ljorring> nickrud: oops, I havent enabled the xgl... sry
[04:56] <Ljorring> nickrud: new log in 1 min
[04:56] <paxton> I can not get these via drivers to work, and i used this following tutorial to install them, but i had one issue with modprobe via
[04:56] <ifireball> hamadooo: hmm... what kind of machine is that? do you have a hardware protection mechanism of some sort?
[04:57] <hamadooo> ifireball with the error msg .. i can still use ubuntu .. but there are no icons and graphic  in the desktop
[04:57] <hobbit_> when using apache2 i get the error Could not reliably determine hte the qualified domain name using localhost. What does that mean?
[04:57] <paxton> http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Compiling%20the%20source%20code
[04:57] <rainwalker> Nergar: I wish I could help, but I'm holding off updating my kernel
[04:57] <hamadooo> ifireball no i don't have anything i just installed ubuntu before 2 days
[04:57] <paxton> I used that tutorial and modprobe via would not work
[04:58] <ifireball> hamadooo: do you have the ubuntu on right now?
[04:58] <jhhh> nickrud thank you very much :>
[04:58] <bascule> hobbit_: if you have a registered domain it needs set in /etc/resolv.conf so apache knows where it's at
[04:58] <jhhh> +1 for nickrud :>
[04:58] <rainwalker> jhhh: did it work?
[04:58] <jhhh> yes
[04:58] <Ljorring> nickrud: xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49124/
[04:58] <rainwalker> sweet
[04:58] <hamadooo> ifireballyeah im on ubuntu now
[04:58] <jhhh> i logged into xterm from login prompt
[04:58] <jhhh> then did that rm command
[04:58] <Ljorring> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49125/ <-- xorg.0.log
[04:59] <hobbit_> bascule, no i don't have a registered domain name.
[04:59] <ifireball> hamadooo: ok, open up a terminal please type down "df -h" and paste the output to pastebin
[04:59] <bascule> hobbit_: a non-issue then :)
[04:59] <Farquad> anyone know if a music player exists that would allow me to add files to a playlist on one computer, then have another node pc play those files when i click play? (a remote controlled client)
[04:59] <Ljorring> nickrud: my graphics are very slowly drawn - even without any effects
[04:59] <nickrud> Ljorring, in your xorg.conf, set composite to 0
[04:59] <Ashfire908> hobbit_, ignore it.
[04:59] <hobbit_> bascule, so any idea what else could be causing the failure of it not working? localhost works but the ip address no longer works
[04:59] <nickrud> Ljorring, that jumped out at me :)
[04:59] <ifireball> Farquad: MPD
[05:00] <Flannel> Farquad: with the media on which computer?
[05:00] <bascule> Farquad: I am sure there are amarok extensions to allow web control
[05:00] <Farquad> Flanger, on either
[05:00] <Farquad> it would be nice to stream from server though..
[05:00] <Ljorring> nickrud: done. ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:00] <nickrud> Ljorring, yup
[05:00] <Flannel> Farquad: Put it on the playing computer, and use mpd with your choice of frontend.  If you want to listen on anothre computer, check out icecast (mpd can source music to icecast)
[05:00] <hamadooo> ifireball filse system size . used . avail . use% monted on ......... and some numbers
[05:01] <bascule> hobbit_: in /etc/resolv.conf do you have a localhost set?
[05:01] <Delvien> anyone have a clue how to fix this : http://pastebin.com/m70ea34a8 (GNOME-SYSTEM-MONITOR) error, will not start
[05:01] <Farquad> Flannel thanks
[05:01] <Delvien> (sorry for repeat) im sleepy and i disconnected just in case someone sent me the answer or question
[05:01] <ifireball> hamadooo: yeah, I know what "df" does, please paste the output to pastebin
[05:01] <Ljorring> nickrud: same.... new log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49126/
[05:01] <hamadooo> ifireball i paste them in privite ok ?
[05:01] <ifireball> !paste| hamadooo
[05:01] <ubotu> hamadooo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <wldx> Hello um... i have wubi installed in my pc and i updated the ubuntu and when i go to install any program it has errors
[05:02] <ifireball> hamadooo: ok
[05:02] <wldx> WTF
[05:02] <hamadooo> your privite is closed
[05:02] <rainwalker> wldx: what errors?
[05:03] <wldx> it is the compiler errors
[05:03] <Nergar> I updated my system today (i saw some linux headers in the updates), restarted and now it wont boot. Grub says: File not found
[05:03] <hamadooo> ifireball could you open your privite plz
[05:03] <hobbit_> bascule, right now all that is in that file is nameserver and then my internal ip
[05:03] <rainwalker> wldx: what did it say?
[05:03] <ifireball> hamadooo: just /msg ifireball <whatever> I'm not going to allow DCC
[05:03] <bascule> hobbit_: seems reasonable
[05:04] <wldx> 1 sec
[05:04] <hamadooo> /msg ifireball
[05:04] <bascule> hobbit_: add localhost 127.0.0.1
[05:04] <hamadooo> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:04] <hamadooo> /dev/sda1             108G  2.3G  100G   3% /
[05:04] <hamadooo> varrun                501M   96K  501M   1% /var/run
[05:04] <hamadooo> varlock               501M     0  501M   0% /var/lock
[05:04] <hamadooo> udev                  501M   72K  501M   1% /dev
[05:04] <hamadooo> devshm                501M     0  501M   0% /dev/shm
[05:04] <hamadooo> lrm                   501M   34M  468M   7% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[05:04] <Flannel> hamadooo, ifireball, queries from unregistered users are disabled by default on freenode.
[05:04] <ifireball> hamadooo: what IRC client are you using?
[05:04] <hamadooo> konversation
[05:04] <soldats> !enter
[05:04] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:05] <bascule> he isn't registered
[05:05] <ifireball> Flannel: what? he can't /msg ?
[05:05] <Flannel> ifireball: Correct.
[05:05] <nickrud> Ljorring, I'm stumped
[05:05] <rainwalker> Flannel: when did that start?
[05:05] <bascule> ifireball: it is to foil spam bots
[05:05] <ifireball> Flannel: weird, I never thought that could be disabled...
[05:05] <hobbit_> bascule, it worked a few days ago so now i have no idea why it has gone bizurck
[05:05] <wldx> well i am on windows right now and i can't get the errors so i come back in about 10 mins
[05:05] <ifireball> bascule: yeah I see the reason
[05:05] <Ljorring> nickrud: mkay
[05:05] <bascule> hobbit_: me neither, but there will be an answer, try #apache
[05:06] <soldats> i thought it still allowed you to do it as long as the persont their trying to message accepts unregistered pms
[05:06] <hobbit_> thanks
[05:06] <Flannel> rainwalker: Its been freenode policy since as far as I can remember
[05:06] <keithclark> Why does it take Ubuntu around 3 minutes to boot up???
[05:06] <Flannel> soldats: Yes
[05:06] <ifireball> hamadooo: next time use pastebin please
[05:06] <hamadooo> ok sorry
[05:06] <Flannel> ifireball: `/msg nickserv set unfilted on`
[05:06] <hamadooo> but you got it right ?
[05:06] <rainwalker> Flannel: odd...I could have sworn I've /msg'd with this nick before I registered it
[05:06] <Arun> hello folks
[05:06] <soldats> Flannel, ahh i get it
[05:06] <Flannel> ifireball: that, if it wokrs iwth unregisted users, will allow you to recieve it
[05:06] <soldats> oops
[05:06] <ifireball> hamadooo: everyone else did as well...
[05:07] <Nergar> c'mon guys please help me
[05:07] <hamadooo> lol ok sorry
[05:07] <Flannel> Nergar: You're on the machine now?  with liveCD or whatnot?  Also, do any other of the kernels work?
[05:08] <ifireball> hamadooo: ok, so it seems you got everything in one big partition
[05:08] <hamadooo> yes that what i did when i install ubuntu
[05:08] <ifireball> hamadooo: I'm going to need you to run some mildly difficult experiment
[05:08] <hamadooo> ok
[05:08] <jhhh> Ok, now for another question that may seem kind of newbish -- I run on a laptop (1920x1200), and it runs fine on the laptop screen, but doesn't seem to want to acknowledge the external monitor i have plugged into it.  I usually leave my laptop closed and use the big monitor.  Any ideas?
[05:09] <Doctor_Nick> hey, is anyone getting the "inconsistent filesystem structure" error in GRUB after this last kernel update?
[05:09] <Nergar> Flannel: yes i am but im the server install, no X. ls /mnt/boot/
[05:09] <Nergar> abi-2.6.22-14-generic     grub                          initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak  System.map-2.6.22-14-generic
[05:09] <bascule> jhhh: is that a sony, just as a matter of interest?
[05:09] <Nergar> config-2.6.22-14-generic  initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic  memtest86+.bin                    vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[05:09]  * nickrud has decided, no kernel update for him
[05:09] <rakyr> anyone have any favorite shell accounts?  i'm looking for a fun open or free BSD one
[05:10] <jhhh> no, its a dell monitor and a dell laptop
[05:10] <Flannel> Nergar: don't need to paste here.  You're in a server install?  what?
[05:10] <ifireball> hamadooo: 1. turn foo comp; 2. start up ubuntu; 3. go to text mode with ctrl+alt+f1; 4. login there with your user; 5. try to write a file with "touch filename.txt"; 6. come back here and tell me if it gave you any error
[05:10] <jhhh> 2407wpf 24" wide
[05:10]  * rainwalker agrees with nickrud, and is glad he held off updating
[05:10] <ifireball> hamadooo: I mean turn comp off*
[05:10]  * bascule has yet to reboot after updating ...
[05:10] <hamadooo> ok i'll do it
[05:10] <hamadooo> brb
[05:10] <nickrud> rainwalker, I always wait on kernels since the dev's want to replace the old ones, not give us new ones :(
[05:10] <Nergar> Flannel: the machine has Ubuntu 7.10 and Ubuntu server 7.10, im in the server install.
[05:11] <ifireball> hamadooo: make sure you write down the exact error
[05:11] <bascule> up 5 days,  7:20,  1 user,  load average: 0.16, 0.19, 0.21
[05:11] <rainwalker> nickrud: what do you mean?
[05:11] <rexus> is there any tutorial to create wireless hotspot using ubuntu?
[05:11] <neep2h> how do i get a wireless manager?
[05:11] <neep2h> 4 ubuntu?
[05:11] <Flannel> Nergar: thats... interesting.  Why would you have two different Ubuntu installs on the same box?  anyway... pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:11] <nickrud> rainwalker, bump the point release, like -14.1-generic , so we can keep the old -14-generic just in case.
[05:11] <aram> hi
[05:12] <aram> good morning every one
[05:12] <cool> yuuk
[05:12] <rainwalker> nickrud: I'm confused...
[05:12] <aram> can any one please help me how can i login as admin
[05:12] <Extravert> bazhang: I can't uninstall gpg?
[05:12] <IdleOne> !root | aram
[05:12] <ubotu> aram: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:12] <alfermp> aram login where?
[05:13] <Doctor_Nick> sudo su
[05:13] <aram> i just want to install yahoo massanger
[05:13] <nickrud> rainwalker, we can have more than one kernel in grub, and choose between them, like the normal and recovery choices.
[05:13] <aram> and it says i need to login as root
[05:13] <aram> i am just new user
[05:13] <aram> just about a week
[05:13] <bascule> aram: pidgin not doing it for you?
[05:13] <tritium> aram: pidgin supports the yahoo messenger protocol
[05:14] <rainwalker> nickrud: oh, yeah, I knew that; but what were you saying about replacing old ones?
[05:14] <aram> sorry
[05:14] <tritium> Doctor_Nick: sudo -i would be preferable to sudo su
[05:14] <dsio> I'm trying to install gutsy on a new machine with an 8400GS and as soon as I select "start or install ubuntu" or "safe graphics mode" i just get a blank screen
[05:14] <sonja> how do i set my videos to open with vlc instead of other program when i double click them?
[05:14] <Flannel> aram: Ubuntu doesn't use the root password, just use sudo.
[05:14] <alfermp> yahoo messenger???? yea use pidgin aram
[05:14] <aram> what does pidgin mean
[05:14] <jhhh> wow seems to be a lot of ubuntu updates after fresh install
[05:14] <sonja> sudo make me a sandwich
[05:14] <tritium> aram: Applications -> Internet -> Pidgin
[05:14] <Flannel> jhhh: Thats because there have been a lot of fixes since October
[05:14] <nickrud> rainwalker, the new kernel that's just been release replaces the current one, rather than getting installed alongside.
[05:14] <alfermp> sonja jajajaja
[05:14] <Dr_willis> jhhh,  every security update :)
[05:14] <bascule> sonja: right-click open with
[05:14] <jhhh> flannel, im doing that now
[05:14] <rainwalker> sonja: in nautilus, right-click on the file and choose Properties, and under the Open With tab, choose VLC
[05:14] <jhhh> maybe that will fix some of my screen issues
[05:14] <wldx> ok i got the error  C compiler cannot create executables
[05:15] <sonja> how do i set it to permanently always open with that new program as default behaviour
[05:15] <sonja> ok thanks rain
[05:15] <aram> but there is no pedgin n this address tritium
[05:15] <Flannel> wldx: You'll need to install build-essential
[05:15] <tritium> wldx: install build-essential
[05:15] <tritium> aram: address?
[05:15] <nickrud> rainwalker, anyway, we're a bit off topic
[05:15] <bascule> wldx: you broke it with flags?
[05:15] <wldx> Flag?
[05:15] <alfermp> aram go to
[05:15] <jhhh> im new to this so if i have dumb questions, just say thats dumb and give me an answer anyway :>
[05:15] <aram> tritium:i mean there is no pedgin in application>internet
[05:15] <alfermp> aram : Aplications> internet> Pidgin
[05:16] <rainwalker> aram: Pidgin is neat in that it can handle all different kinds of chat accounts. you can have your yahoo, aim, etc. accounts all in one place
[05:16] <tritium> aram: Pidgin Instant Messenger
[05:16] <nickrud> jhhh, lol, there are no stupid questions, just a fear of appearing stupid :)
[05:16] <bascule> wldx: forget it, install build-essential
[05:16] <IdleOne> jhhh: no dumb questions. ask and someone will answer if they can
[05:16] <aram> alfermp there is not any prgram with pedgin name
[05:16] <r3n0c> hey can somebody help me, i an't get hibernate/suspend to work
[05:16] <jhhh> oh i have no fear of that heh
[05:16] <wldx> where i get ir
[05:16] <wldx> t*
[05:16] <tritium> aram: are you running gutsy (7.10)?
[05:16] <alfermp> aram do u use ubuntu?
[05:16] <bascule> wldx, synaptics
[05:16] <wldx> k
[05:16] <aram> tritium :no it is 7.04
[05:16] <rainwalker> nickrud: wait, so the 2.6.22-14 update listed in my update manager replaces what?
[05:16] <aram> yes i use ubuntu#
[05:16] <tritium> aram: it was called "gaim" in 7.04
[05:16] <r3n0c> anybody? b/c i can't get my laptop to go into suspend
[05:17] <r3n0c> it says that i don't have access to effect that policy
[05:17] <Flannel> wldx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[05:17] <aram> ok thanks so much
[05:17] <tritium> wldx: it's in the repositories
[05:17] <aram> tritium : is there any root user in ubuntu
[05:17] <r3n0c> yea
[05:17] <jhhh> But does anyone know the answer to what I asked before about using external monitors?  I want my laptop closed and to use the big screen -- but it doesnt appear to operate...shows the load screen, but then goes dead and reverts to the laptop screen, pressing fn-f8 doesnt seem to switch it properly, either.
[05:17] <r3n0c> sudo su
[05:17] <aram> thanks alfermap
[05:17] <Flannel> aram: No, the root account is locked.  Use sudo instead.
[05:17] <rainwalker> aram: then it will be under Applications > Internet > Gaim instant messenger
[05:17] <nickrud> rainwalker, 2.6.22-14 . I would prefer a 2.6.22-14.1 , so if it fails, I can go back to 2.6.22-14
[05:17] <aram> sorry what is sudo
[05:17] <alfermp> no problem aram gaim is the old version from pidgin
[05:18] <Flannel> !sudo | aram
[05:18] <r3n0c> Gaim is now pidgin
[05:18] <ubotu> aram: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:18] <tritium> aram: do not use sudo su, please
[05:18] <nickrud> irrc, we used to get them
[05:18] <rainwalker> nickrud: will we get a 14.1?
[05:18] <r3n0c> can somebody help me get my laptop to go into suspend/hibernate mode
[05:18] <nickrud> rainwalker, no idea
[05:18] <r3n0c> i get a message that i am not able to effect that policy
[05:18] <aram> tritium :why
[05:18] <tritium> aram: sudo -i is preferred
[05:19] <rainwalker> nickrud: well I'm going to hold off updating, then. thanks for warning me :)
[05:19] <Schmick> aram: I wrote some instructions on a private message.. read it.. check your windows
[05:19] <sonja> bascule and rainwalker how do i set it to permanently always open with that program as default behaviour in future double clicks?
[05:19] <aram> sorry man i dont know what is sudo at all
[05:19] <Nergar> Flannel: im installing openbox and a browser so i can paste it. just one sec
[05:19] <aram> schmick how can i read my privet massage
[05:19] <bascule> aram: just use gaim for now
[05:19] <sonja> it's like sudoku except not
[05:19] <tritium> aram: Flannel had ubotu send you some info
[05:19] <jhhh> hah that Advanced graphics trick is cool where you move windows and they kinda turn to jello :>
[05:19] <aram> ok i will do
[05:20] <r3n0c> anybody know how to get hibernate to work, ubuntu 7.10
[05:20] <aram> thank a lot guys
[05:20] <Flannel> Nergar: You dont need to do that, check out the package "pastebinit"
[05:20] <rainwalker> sonja: in the properties window, if you set it to open with VLC under the Open With tab, all files of that type will open with VLC
[05:20] <Schmick> aram: it must have poped up on a tab with my nick on it.. or another window.
[05:20] <aram> schmick where ?
[05:20] <jhhh> whats a good xwin based irc client for ubuntu, i see a few in the install packages, which is pretty good?
[05:20] <rainwalker> jhhh: gotta love the wobbly windows haha
[05:20] <aram> because know i am using gaim
[05:20] <nickrud> jhhh, xchat is good
[05:20] <Kuropon> any reason why my firefox doesn't want to remember the position it's at in my Ubuntu 7.10 but remembers its size?
[05:20] <r3n0c> gaim is now pidgin
[05:20] <robdig> jhhh: xchat
[05:20] <jhhh> ill check it out
[05:20] <harushimo> I got my dvds to play. Now totem is automatically exiting
[05:21] <tritium> jhhh: xchat
[05:21] <jhhh> systems updating right now
[05:21] <r3n0c> xchat is a good irc client
[05:21] <harushimo> how I do fix the software
[05:21] <sonja> so is irssi
[05:21] <sonja> pidgin does irc too
[05:21] <jhhh> so i have to wait for the security patches to finish
[05:21] <rainwalker> r3n0c: yeah, but on Feisty it's still Gaim, it hasn't updated to Pidgin yet
[05:21] <nickrud> aram, the people in #compiz-fusion can show you all the goodies :)
[05:21] <jhhh> had to enable it to check for those, i figured that'd be defaulted
[05:21] <jhhh> but its not
[05:21] <harushimo> anyone
[05:21] <r3n0c> rainwalker, o, didn't know, you could still do it yourself tho...
[05:21] <rainwalker> harushimo: I'd recommend using VLC instead of totem
[05:21] <aram> any onw can help me how can i see my privet massage
[05:22] <Schmick> aram: are you using xchat or what to access this channel?
[05:22] <r3n0c> aram,  top left corner
[05:22] <rainwalker> r3n0c: yeah, but I prefer to let the devs do it for me haha
[05:22] <harushimo> rainwalker: I could do that
[05:22] <r3n0c> rainwalker,  haha ok then
[05:22] <aram> i dont know  i just login with irc by gaum
[05:22] <aram> sorry gaim
[05:22] <harushimo> rainwalker: the streaming video doesn't work with VLC
[05:22] <rainwalker> aram: in the window you're typing in, look around for a new tab. It will probably be red, or highlighted, or something like that
[05:22] <Kuropon> any reason why my firefox doesn't want to remember the position it's at in my Ubuntu 7.10 but remembers its size?
[05:22] <r3n0c> rainwalker, umm do you know how to get hibernate/suspend to work with gutsy?
[05:22] <jhhh> i have to say im pretty suprised thus far with this being my first install tonight
[05:22] <Nergar> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2899/
[05:23] <Schmick> aram: ok.. first thing.. get xchat and run it.. it'll get to this channel by default..
[05:23] <aram> no there is not
[05:23] <harushimo> that's not the real issue at hand. I just want to know how I fix totem or what they call gsstreamer
[05:23] <albech> .
[05:23] <rainwalker> Kuropon: that depends what you have set for window placement
[05:23] <r3n0c> rainwalker,  i modified the power settings, but when i close the lid... a popup says that i don't have access to modify the policy
[05:23] <aram> what is xchat?
[05:23] <Schmick> aram: its easier with xchat.
[05:23] <rainwalker> r3n0c: hibernate hasn't worked for me since dapper, sorry
[05:23] <jhhh> irc client
[05:23] <Kuropon> rainwalker, qustion mark question mark
[05:23] <sonja> xchat is aprogram to connect to irc
[05:23] <r3n0c> lol balls
[05:23] <aram> ok s chmick  where can i  get xchat
[05:23] <rainwalker> harushimo: gstreamer is what lets you play that dvd
[05:23] <Extravert> can someone help me with GPG?
[05:23] <harushimo> rainwalker: it didn't work
[05:24] <r3n0c> aram, sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:24] <rainwalker> Kuropon: are you using Compiz Fusion?
[05:24] <sainzeo> aram: Add/Remove Programs
[05:24] <Kuropon> rainwalker, no
[05:24] <r3n0c> aram,  or that yea, use the add/remove
[05:24] <harushimo> rainwalker: I install what they told me on the ubuntu website
[05:24] <aram> where do i have to type this command
[05:24] <Schmick> aram:  go to system->administration ->synaptic...
[05:24] <Kuropon> rainwalker, can't get it to work my my video card
[05:24] <rainwalker> aram: if you want install programs there are two main ways you can do it
[05:24] <keithclark> Hi everyone....what is the easiest way to enable DVD playback?
[05:24] <r3n0c> aram just go to the add/remove applications
[05:25] <aram> ok i am in add and remove application know
[05:25] <Schmick> aram:  there scroll down.. select xchat and apply.. .. it'll download and install it for you.
[05:25] <rainwalker> Kupon: well...hm. I only know about window placement using CF, I don't know how it's handled otherwise, I'm sorry
[05:25] <aram> ok hang on a secound
[05:25] <Schmick> aram:  that's good too.. it's the same..
[05:25] <Kuropon> rainwalker, /facepalm
[05:25] <robdig> !dvd | keithclark
[05:25] <ubotu> keithclark: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:25] <aram> ok i think i have installed xchat
[05:25] <rainwalker> aram: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3978530#post3978530
[05:26] <aram> what should i do know
[05:26] <Kuropon> run it ^^
[05:26] <nickrud> rainwalker, my laptop does suspend and hibernate (without fglrx of course) Love that salesman
[05:26] <sainzeo> aram: look under Applications, Internet - should be listed there i believe
[05:26] <Schmick> aram: close this and runn xchat :).. it's in applications, internet.. .. yes sainzeo
[05:26] <bazhang> Extravert: uninstall it? I thought you wanted to get the most recent one.
[05:26] <rainwalker> nickrud: lucky!
[05:26] <aram> because currently i run ubuntu with virtual mashine
[05:26] <noor> you guys
[05:26] <Flannel> nickrud: you have different partitions for your server and desktop install?
[05:26] <Schmick> that's ok aram
[05:26] <Extravert> bazhang: it removes critical components
[05:26] <aram> because i have got difficualty to install ubuntu on my actual system
[05:27] <Nergar> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2899/
[05:27] <noor> i need to separate a video file (avi) but i dont know hwo to
[05:27] <Flannel> Nergar: you have different partitions for your server and desktop install?
[05:27] <aram> i just want to know how can i come to this chat room again
[05:27] <aram> to ask my remaining quistion
[05:27] <noor> download
[05:27] <Nergar> Flannel: yes, want to se my disk layout?
[05:27] <nickrud> Flannel, no, I just have a desktop. I had two breezy installs, one for me, one for troubleshooting here.
[05:27] <noor> aram: i downloaded X-chat
[05:27] <Schmick> aram:  opening xchat will bring you back here.
[05:28] <aram> ok schmick  i will come again now
[05:28] <sainzeo> aram: xchat is setup to automatically connect to this channel
[05:28] <Extravert> bazhang: When im decrypting a file, the console becomes filled with unicode and at the end the console becomes corrupted.
[05:28] <rainwalker> sainzeo: I didn't know that, cool
[05:28] <Flannel> Nergar: Please, yes.  And, is this /boot/grub/menu.lst?  or /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:28] <noor> can some one help me split a .avi file? i need em in two parts
[05:28] <rainwalker> noor: two parts as in a beginning and end?
[05:29] <noor> rainwalker: yeah
[05:29] <rainwalker> noor: you could check out kino or avidemux
[05:29] <guero> could someone help me get rmvb files to play properly? i've managed to get video playback but there's no sound.
[05:29] <wldx> thanks it works now
[05:29] <nickrud> Flannel, a chainloader for an ubuntu server?
[05:29] <aram_> hi
[05:29] <etfb> !channels
[05:29] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:29] <rainwalker> hey aram_
[05:29] <aram_> i am comming again
[05:29] <rainwalker> aram_: everything working?
[05:29] <Schmick> aram_:  well done!
[05:29] <Flannel> nickrud: I'm a bit confused by that as well.  Also the fact that his desktop and server are both on the same partition.
[05:30] <aram_> ok i have got another problem with installing ubuntu
[05:30] <aram_> yes every this is ok thanks a lot
[05:30] <noor> rainwalker: ill do that right now
[05:30] <aram_> but the only problem is i can not type that much fast
[05:30] <aram_> and you are all so fast
[05:30] <aram_> :)
[05:30] <noor> aram: good job ^___^
[05:30] <rainwalker> aram_: practice haha
[05:30] <Schmick> ok.. can you see the private message now?.. in the list on the left?
[05:30] <nickrud> Flannel, I could see using a server kernel on the same partition, same packages otherwise and all
[05:30] <jhhh> do i install xchat or xchat-gnome?
[05:31] <aram_> that was what i was thinking about
[05:31] <rainwalker> aram_: also, if you need to type names really fast, you can start typing and press Tab and it will complete it for you
[05:31]  * GreySim thinks xchat-gnome is nicer, personally.
[05:31] <rainwalker> jhhh: xchat
[05:31] <sainzeo> jhhh: i've found "xchat" to much more friendly to the eyes than "xchat-gnome"
[05:31] <robdig> jhhh: xchat
[05:31] <Nergar> Flannel: it is /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst (ubuntu). heres my disk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2900/
[05:31]  * nickrud holds up a cross towards GreySim 
[05:31] <rainwalker> jhhh: xchat-gnome is horrible
[05:31] <Flannel> nickrud: Theyre on separate partitions, or thats what he said.  Except thats not what his grub reflects.  It is what the contents of his /boot supports though
[05:31] <aram_> rainwalker what does that mean
[05:31] <GreySim> Heh, I'm not surprised to be in the minority on that one actually.
[05:32] <aram_> if i pres tab what would happen
[05:32]  * GreySim should've thought about that before making recommendations to others.
[05:32] <NoorulIslaam> hey there's an Ubuntu Me . cool :D
[05:32] <rainwalker> aram_: if yo need to type out someone's name, like "rainwalker", instead of typing out the whole word you can type "rain" and press tab and it will finish the word for you
[05:32] <wldx> now i found a new error
[05:32] <wldx> error: *** termcap support not found
[05:32] <aram_> rainwalker:  thanks a lot
[05:32] <Schmick> aram_:  TAB auto completes names of ppl in the chat
[05:32] <aram_> thats is gera
[05:32] <aram_> great
[05:32] <Flannel> Nergar: alright, this is what you need to change on your mounted boot's menu.lst, change lines 131 and 137 to be hd0,2
[05:32] <aram_> ok
[05:32] <rainwalker> aram_: yeah, it really helps :)
[05:33] <keithclark> robdig:  Those instructions do not work, thanks.
[05:33] <sainzeo> rainwalker, never knew that either - thanks for the tip
[05:33] <Schmick> aram_: .. did you receive the private message now?
[05:33] <rainwalker> aram_: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3978530#post3978530
[05:33] <Flannel> nickrud: and then the other interesting thing is its actually trying to boot his home partition, for both of them (server is hd0,5, desktop is hd0,2)
[05:33] <aram_> rainwalker:  no
[05:33] <aram_> how can i see it
[05:33] <rainwalker> sainzeo: you're welcome :)
[05:33] <rainwalker> aram_: click the link
[05:33] <Consty> is fedora a good platform for the redhat certifications?  Or do I need the retail version?
[05:33] <jhhh> ok now
[05:33] <Flannel> Nergar: and I'm a bit amazed you've been able to boot your server at that, for the record.
[05:33] <jhhh> im all updated, i have xchat installed
[05:34] <aram_> rainwalker:  which link
[05:34] <jhhh> now -- how the hell do i get my external monitor to work :>
[05:34] <rainwalker> aram_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3978530#post3978530
[05:34] <nickrud> Flannel, that is a world class interesting menu.lst
[05:34] <Nergar> Flannel: why?
[05:34] <ifireball> Consty: out of topic, but no, you need the real RHEL
[05:34] <Consty> ifireball: Sorry wrong channel.. meant to say it in #fedora :)
[05:34] <Flannel> Nergar: because you're trying to boot to your home partition, instead of your server one.
[05:34] <Consty> ifireball: Thanks though!
[05:34] <aram_> rainwalker:  i have opend it
[05:34] <keithclark> Any other ideas to get DVD playback to work?
[05:34] <nickrud> I've obviously missed a pastebin somewhere
[05:35] <Flannel> Nergar: hd0,6 is sda7, hd0,5 is sda5.  If this works (the hd0,2), we need to make it permanent
[05:35] <zero0x> test
[05:35] <sainzeo> keithclark: have you tried using VLC?
[05:35] <Nergar> Flannel: lol!
[05:35] <rainwalker> aram_: that's just a thread about keeping your system up-to-date, and the different ways you can install software
[05:35] <aram_> the other problem i have got is that i can not install ubuntu on my system
[05:35] <Nergar> Flannel: I pasted it wrong!
[05:35] <Flannel> nickrud: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2899/ and 2900
[05:35] <zero0x> please help me i deleted /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/sis_drv.so and I need it BACK
[05:35] <keithclark> sainzeo, you still need some type of decoder, no?
[05:35] <rainwalker> aram_: why can't you install it?
[05:36] <zero0x> can any1 help me how to get my driver back ?? (now I'm running on vesa)
[05:36] <aram_> when i try to install i put the ubuntu live cd and it will boot and i press enter to boot from cd
[05:36] <aram_> and it says
[05:36] <sainzeo> keithclark: have you tried installing "ubuntu restricted extras" from Add/Remove?
[05:36] <nickrud> Flannel, if he booted of sda7 , it can't be home :(
[05:36] <aram_> /bin/sh:cant access tty :job center turned off
[05:36] <_Casey_> i did an update and now my sound isnt working
[05:36] <rainwalker> zero0x: want me to email a copy of mine to you?
[05:36] <aram_> and in below it says (initramfs)
[05:36] <keithclark> sainzeo, yes, I had to to get my vid card and wireless running.
[05:36] <zero0x> rainwalker: that would be great (for gutsy)
[05:37] <noor> aram: did you try safe graphics mode?
[05:37] <zero0x> rainwalker: can I give you my email?
[05:37] <rainwalker> zero0x: pm your email address
[05:37] <aram_> no
[05:37] <_Casey_> anyone?
[05:37] <aram_> noor :no
[05:37] <Nergar> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2901/
[05:37] <Extravert> bazhang: ahaa found it.  no valid Openpgp data found
[05:37] <noor> aram: because when i had problems i it solved em
[05:37] <aram_> but most of the option deos not work
[05:37] <zero0x> rainwalker: zero0xxx@gmail.com (i'm not registered!)
[05:37] <aram_> they just give me error
[05:37] <rainwalker> zero0x: okay, just a sec....
[05:37] <noor> aram: sorry i guess you can try google
[05:38] <nickrud> ok, that's more reasonable
[05:38] <zero0x> rainwalker: thank you and hope it will work :)
[05:38] <_Casey_> anyone?
[05:38] <aram_> noor :try google to find an answer?
[05:38] <keithclark> sainzeo:  Nothing there about a DVD decoder though
[05:39] <Flannel> Nergar: Interesting.  Alright, well, you need to change the first stuff to hd0,5 then.  Lines 131 and 137 "root (hd0,6)" is the current contents
[05:39] <sainzeo> keithclark, "Ubuntu restricted extras" is different than "Restricted Drivers Manager"
[05:39] <noor> aram: yeah it should help
[05:39] <Flannel> Nergar: and again, if that works, we need to make it permanent
[05:39] <Nergar> Flannel: ok, gona try
[05:39] <_Casey_> what happens when my volume thingy says "No volume control GStreamer plugins/and or devices found"
[05:39] <rainwalker> zero0x: sent
[05:39] <aram_> noor :thanks
[05:39] <keithclark> sainzeo, ok.  I'm new.....the extras are where?
[05:39] <aram_> noor :i just in room again maybe some one can help
[05:39] <aram_> can any one please help me what should i do with the error i get whn i try to install ubuntu
[05:40] <rainwalker> keithclark: Applications > Add/remove
[05:40] <sainzeo> keithclark, if you go to Applications - Add/Remove Applications, make sure that you switch the Show: to All available applications, then type restricted in the search bar
[05:40] <_Casey_> what happens when my volume thingy says "No volume control GStreamer plugins/and or devices found" ?
[05:41] <aram_> the erroris /bin/sh:can not access tty: job central turned off
[05:41] <aram_> that is the error i get
[05:41] <rainwalker> _Casey_: hmm...sounds like you're missing something
[05:41]  * Schmick is away
[05:41] <_Casey_> rainwalker
[05:41] <keithclark> sainzeo, ok, because VLC just crashes.
[05:41] <_Casey_> i did an update and now my sound is missing
[05:41] <Flannel> !away > Schmick
[05:41] <rainwalker> aram_: try searching the forums for that, I've seen people having that error before
[05:41] <_Casey_> also i installed some things to get my dvd to play and when i restarted my sound is mising
[05:41] <rainwalker> aram_: http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:42] <aram_> rainwalker how can serach
[05:42] <sainzeo> keithclark, were you able to add the "Ubuntu restricted extras" package from Add/REmove?
[05:42] <aram_> i mean what should i type
[05:42] <Doctor_Nick> is there something like a "grub repair" tool, that reconfigures grub after it
[05:42] <Doctor_Nick> 's been messed up?
[05:42] <rainwalker> aram_: search for "job control turned off"
[05:42] <keithclark> sainzeo, it was already added.
[05:42] <Nergar> Flannel: but why did it happened?
[05:42] <Flannel> Doctor_Nick: Define messed up?
[05:42] <aram_> rainwalker:  thanks a lot
[05:42] <Nergar> whas it the update?
[05:42] <rainwalker> ah, I have to sleep now, g'night all!
[05:42] <rainwalker> aram_: no problem
[05:42] <Flannel> Nergar: Does that work?
[05:42] <bazhang> bye rainwalker
[05:42] <rainwalker> peace
[05:42] <aram_> and also because i have just began to learn linux #
[05:42] <_Casey_> ok no help i guess :/
[05:42] <ogre> what do I type in terminal to re-enable wireless? I installed a security hardening tool and it disabled wireless then I removed tool
[05:42] <_Casey_> ogre
[05:42] <sainzeo> keithclark, open a terminal window (Applications - Accessories - Terminal), then type vlc
[05:43] <_Casey_> use modprobe
[05:43] <Alloos1> hi, in windows I use traceroute domain, how about ubuntu?
[05:43] <aram_> i want to learn the linux which is the best for networking
[05:43] <Doctor_Nick> Flannel: I'm getting the problem with not being able to boot after the kernel header upgrade, inconsistent filesystem structure
[05:43] <_Casey_> and your wireless driver name
[05:43] <Myrtti> tracepath
[05:43] <sainzeo> keithclark, that should start VLC up - attempt to open a DVD and watch what the terminal displays when VLC crashes
[05:43] <Doctor_Nick> but my menu.lst has the correct values, correct drive and uuid
[05:43] <keithclark> vlc started but when I tried to open the disc, it just shut itself down
[05:43] <_Casey_> mine is "modprobe ipw3945"
[05:43] <aram_> could you help me which version is the best linux for networking and security
[05:43] <bazhang> _Casey_: it could be muted
[05:43] <jhhh> i like xchat btw
[05:43] <_Casey_> no its not muted
[05:43] <Flannel> Doctor_Nick: I see.  I imagine thats not a GRUB issue.  If I had to pick something, that is.
[05:43] <Nergar> Flannel: haven't tried.
[05:43] <ifireball> Doctor_Nick: vesious stuff comes up when you do grub<tab> on terminal, I didn't try any of those so you'll need to research then a little with man/google
[05:43] <_Casey_> keith
[05:43] <ogre> _Casey_,  I have the same nic
[05:43] <jhhh> now plz get my external monitor working gurus :>
[05:43] <tritium> !best | aram_
[05:43] <ubotu> aram_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:43] <_Casey_> ogre
[05:43] <ifireball> Doctor_Nick: various*
[05:43] <_Casey_> type "modprobe ipw3945"
[05:43] <neur1> in xubuntu where is the volume ? tried adding an applet to the panel but it's a no-go
[05:44] <aram_> no i mean the best os
[05:44] <_Casey_> keithclark try xine
[05:44] <Nergar> Flannel: be right back
[05:44] <_Casey_> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[05:44] <aram_> for example suse ,debian,ubuntu ,fedora
[05:44] <Doctor_Nick> has there been an official statement on these issues with not being able to boot after these upgrades, it seems that alot of people are getting htem
[05:44] <aram_> i have mcse for windows xp
[05:44] <ogre> _Casey_,  then what?
[05:44] <sainzeo> keithclark, i believe i know what the problem is but i'm trying to remember what the fix was...VLC will work fine though once we figure that out
[05:44] <aram_> sorry windows 2003 server
[05:44] <Pelchflum> Anyone mind helping a n00b get their Siemens SS1022 USB working in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[05:44] <hockeyfan5000> aram, hush..lol
[05:44] <aram_> and just want to leran about linux as well
[05:44] <_Casey_> it should be on
[05:44] <jhhh> anyone know a good software based spam filter that will tie into evolution (or should I use firefox email client?) recommendation?
[05:44] <keithclark> sainzeo, libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[05:45] <eddy> My system is simply screwed up, is there a way to use linux update even though I'm up to date?
[05:45] <Flannel> Nergar: Alright, well, if it does, you need to change line 74 the same way.  That'll make it permanent.  As it why it happened, I imagine something got crossed up in your server install that made it edit this boot instead.  Why do you have two different installs anyway?  They'll happily coexist on the same partition(s)
[05:45] <earthsound> is hotplugging of wacom tablets achievable in 7.10? i have read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTabletIssue and a few other resources & have only one problem:
[05:45] <aram_> i just want to start from that one which is best for me any suggestion
[05:45] <aram_> ?
[05:45] <_Casey_> !hdaintel > _Casey_
[05:45] <aram_> which linux is best for networking ?
[05:45] <earthsound> the graphire 4 tablet is plugged into a monitor & when it comes back from power save mode, it loses it's "relative" mode
[05:46] <earthsound> aram_: what kind of networking are you trying to do?
[05:46] <aram_> domain
[05:46] <Mini-Me> heya, very quick noob question for anyone who knows this:  What file are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:46] <hockeyfan5000> aram_: Any linux version that uses TCP/IP should be good...;-)
[05:46] <aram_> i know what do you mean
[05:46] <ifireball> aram_: "networking" is such a huge word, you have to be more specific
[05:46] <aram_> but i heard that some one says for example
[05:46] <earthsound> aram_: like a domain controller?
[05:46] <eddy> is there a way to use linux update even though I'm up to date?  (To download new system files)
[05:46] <aram_> yes in two ways
[05:46] <Pelchflum> Does anyone know how to get a SS1022 wireless adapter working under Ubuntu 7.10?
[05:47] <aram_> security and domain controller
[05:47] <_Casey_> !wireless
[05:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:47] <sainzeo> keithclark, try typing in the terminal: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[05:47] <ifireball> aram_: if you want it to "join your windows domain" Ubuntu may not be the best choice, it can do that it it lacks the tools to make it easy to accomplish
[05:47] <Pelchflum> thx
[05:47] <aram_> for example the one which most people use them as server
[05:47] <aram_> for big comapny
[05:47] <_Casey_> gah i want my sound issue fixed
[05:48] <hockeyfan5000> SUSE Enterprise is fairly popular
[05:48] <aram_> that is the thing
[05:48] <earthsound> aram_: you can you samba or openLDAP
[05:48] <Memot> Can anyone tell me if i can run the downloaded version of Gutsy Ribbon as a live CD?
[05:48] <ifireball> aram_: most "big companies" use RedHat/Suse for "big servers" nowdays
[05:48] <aram_> i want to start from the one which would be the best choise
[05:48] <earthsound> best choice depends on your skill level
[05:48] <aram_> i have suse 10.3
[05:48] <noor_> i need help T___T on how to Corp a video
[05:48] <sainzeo> keithclark, what did that command do for you?
[05:49] <hockeyfan5000> aram_: FreeBSD hehe
[05:49] <aram_> sorry open suse
[05:49] <keithclark> sainzeo, i will try
[05:49] <eddy> how long until ubuntu updates?
[05:49] <aram_> hockeyfan5000: what do you mean ?
[05:49] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[05:49] <keithclark> sainzeo, already installed the latest version
[05:49] <_Casey_> greenman
[05:49] <sainzeo> keithclark, damn...umm...
[05:49] <_Casey_> be lucky, i have no sound anymore
[05:49] <earthsound> has anyone had any luck getting tablet input devices to keep their settings when the USB comes back up from power save, etc.?
[05:49] <Memot> Can anyone tell me if i can run the downloaded version of Gutsy Ribbon as a live CD?
[05:49] <noor_> wait no not corp i just need help taking a scene from a video and just saving that scene
[05:50] <keithclark> sainzeo, it is not a total loss.  I can always do video under pclos.
[05:50] <keithclark> sainzeo, video worked out of the box there.
[05:50] <aram_> in other for example if  try to work with ubuntu
[05:50] <ifireball> aram_: if you really want to learn to be a sysadmin, I suggest starting by reading a basic UNIX book that will teach you the basics of file permissions/devices/etc.
[05:50] <aram_> and leran how to do things
[05:50] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:50] <aram_> ifireball: thanks
[05:50] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> Memot, it depends on which version you downloaded....the server version can't, the desktop version IS a LiveCD
[05:51] <aram_> i mean if i learn ubuntu would all the linux use same method
[05:51] <keithclark> sainzeo, I was warned about dvds and wireless in Ubuntu before installation.
[05:51] <aram_> like some basic method
[05:51] <alain> hello again.. i installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run from there site.. and it mess up my display.. it wont detect the driver and displays 800x600 only.. how can i enable again the driver... plss
[05:51] <Memot> Geoffrey2: Thanks :-)
[05:51] <aram_> sorry guys i am asking some simple and rediculous quistion
[05:51] <hola> hola
[05:51] <earthsound> Memot: yes. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:51] <sainzeo> keithclark, well i know it works fine as I've been using, but at the same time, I had your same problem and was able to fix it so I"m trying to remember what i did haha
[05:51] <aram_> but i am new to linux and dont know any thing about it
[05:51] <ifireball> aram_: the basics are the same for all Linux/Unix systems
[05:51] <hockeyfan5000> que pasa hola
[05:52] <_Casey_> is there some command to reenable sound or something
[05:52] <keithclark> sainzeo, thanks for trying.  I had no issues with the wireless or my ATI card, so they were wrong about those two!
[05:52] <aram_> ifireball:  if i learn how to work with ubuntu would it be the same as suse
[05:52] <Flannel> !es | hockeyfan5000
[05:52] <ubotu> hockeyfan5000: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:52] <ifireball> aram_: in so respects, yes
[05:53] <aram_> ifireball: thanks a lot
[05:53] <ifireball> aram_: but there are differences, for example, package management is different
[05:53] <alain> hello again.. i installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run from there site.. and it mess up my display.. it wont detect the driver and displays 800x600 only.. how can i fix this
[05:53] <ifireball> aram_: but if you understand what "package management" is, learning a new system is easy
[05:53] <aram_> ifireball: do you think ubuntu is nice one i mean good chose for me for start
[05:53] <aram_> or no
[05:53] <tritium> alain: if you want support here, use the ubuntu packages, not nvidia .run files
[05:54] <aram_> no i dont under stand
[05:54] <jhhh> hmm
[05:54] <Nergar> Flannel, back to my desktop!!
[05:54] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:54] <mrdinkles> i need to check which partition the other OS is on-- I.e (hd0, 1 or 2 or 3)-- any ideas?
[05:54] <tritium> aram_: yes, it is a very good choice to start with
[05:54] <jhhh> for the life of me i cant get my external monitor to work with this, does anyone have a similar situation?"
[05:54] <Memot> Wow
[05:54] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:54] <ifireball> aram_: its a good starting point because of the emphasis put on making stuff "just work" it'll mean you'll have to solve less problems on the get go
[05:54] <aram_> ifireball: how can i find informatin about packege managment
[05:54] <sainzeo> keithclark, okay i think this is what I did to fix it...in the terminal, type: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:54] <Memot> Ubuntu is not even installed and my internet is faster.
[05:55] <alain> tritium: i want to use the restricted package again.. i enable it on the administration section but still wont fix..
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> aram_: personally, I'm still rather a newbie at linux, and I really like Ubuntu because you can set up a working system without having to learn a brand new language first
[05:55] <Memot> Naming of Ubuntu makes everything faster :P
[05:55] <keithclark> sainzeo, I tried that and got an error
[05:55] <bazhang> Memot: do you have a question? this is a support channel
[05:55] <sainzeo> keithclark, what was the error?
[05:55] <jhhh> oh, and another thing -- anyone know a ntfs file reader so i can access my ntfs partition and copy some files over?
[05:55] <ifireball> aram_: the same way you find information about anything nowdays... google :P or wikipedia maybe
[05:55] <aram_> ifireball: hehe
[05:55] <T1m0thy> jhhh: ntfs-3g
[05:56] <aram_> thank a lot
[05:56] <keithclark> sainzeo, command not found
[05:56] <Extravert> bazhang: found the solution! gpg --decrypt-files <file.gpg>
[05:56] <aram_> ifireball: you know i have  heard  most of the people saying
[05:56] <jhhh> lol thats already installed and working...dumb of me :>
[05:56] <bazhang> Extravert: great news!
[05:56] <mrdinkles>  i need to check which partition the other OS is on-- I.e (hd0, 1 or 2 or 3)-- any ideas?
[05:57] <aram_> thats linux has much more security that windows
[05:57] <Flannel> mrdinkles: sudo fdisk -l (thats a lower case L)
[05:57] <jhhh> now srsly, stop ignoring my plea for help with my external monitor :> google returns about 50000000000 hits on it :(
[05:57] <Extravert> bazhang: I think you have to use that when decypting archives
[05:57] <Memot> bazhang: I just asked something, i'm just commenting it, i am still here to ask any further questions.
[05:57] <sainzeo> keithclark, sorry about that, i made a mistake type this instead: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:57] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:58] <Nergar> Flannel, thanks for the help, i think the problem was in grub root (hd0,6) maybe thats what happened
[05:58] <aram_> ifireball: like they say it is not that easy to hack as windows is
[05:58] <_Casey_> can you uninstall the alsadrivers and reinstall them?
[05:58] <h1st0> T1m0thy: do a memory test
[05:58] <_Casey_> yes, no?
[05:58] <Flannel> Nergar: That is.  Did you change it in line 74?  That got changed, and then the update commited those changes to the menu itself.  But, why do you have a separate server/desktop install anyway?
[05:58] <keithclark> sainzeo: No prebuilt binary available.  Will try to build and install it.
[05:58] <keithclark> You need to have debhelper and fakeroot installed.
[05:58] <keithclark> If not, interrupt now, install them and rerun this script.
[05:58] <keithclark> This is higly experimental, look out for what happens below.
[05:58] <keithclark> If you want to stop, interrupt now (control-c), else press
[05:58] <keithclark> return to proceed
[05:58] <h1st0> _Casey_: what is your problem exactly?
[05:58] <aram_> is it possible to run domain controller on ubuntu
[05:58] <T1m0thy> h1st0: Okay. That should be in my GRUB menu, right?
[05:58] <Flannel> !paste | keithclark
[05:58] <ubotu> keithclark: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <keithclark> sainzeo....are you sure about this?
[05:59] <h1st0> T1m0thy: yeah memtest should be one of the options in grub menu.  Start there make sure your hardware is good.
[05:59] <_Casey_> i did an update on ubuntu and now ubuntu wont recognize my sound, i have no options now
[05:59] <aram_> like dhcp server ,dns server
[05:59] <sainzeo> keithclark, pretty sure
[05:59] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Im updating my menu.lst to add another OS-- the partition is showing as /dev/sda2-- when putting the drive, will i label ass (sda0,2)??
[05:59] <_Casey_> its default on mute, and no sound at all
[05:59] <T1m0thy> h1st0: Alright, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow.
[05:59] <h1st0> _Casey_: a distribution upgrade or just an update to the new kernel?
[05:59] <bazhang> Memot: sorry; just sometimes there are disruptive individuals around--my apologies
[05:59] <Flannel> mrdinkles: No, just like a b c d start at 0; 1,2,3... start at zero as well in grub.  So sda2 is hd0,1
[05:59] <aram_> does any one now
[06:00] <h1st0> _Casey_: and did you ever install sound drivers before or it just worked out of the box?
[06:00] <aram_> know if it is possible to run domain controller on ubuntu or ny
[06:00] <aram_> not
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Okay, thats what i put in, but says invalid device O.o
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel when i try and boot from grub
[06:00] <keithclark> sainzeo...nope, nothing worked there
[06:00] <h1st0> aram_: like windows domain controller?
[06:00] <_Casey_> i had to do the hdaintel thing to get my sound to work
[06:00] <Flannel> mrdinkles: Are you mixing sata and ide drives, by any chance?
[06:00] <_Casey_> then i did a normal ubuntu-update
[06:00] <aram_> h1st0:  yes
[06:00] <keithclark> sainzeo....Install debhelper and fakeroot
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: honestly.. i have no clue
[06:00] <_Casey_> and the sound isnt working
[06:00] <h1st0> _Casey_: yeah the kernel updated so whatever you did before to get it to work you will probably have to do again.
[06:00] <biabia> hi. i installed dvd decrypter in wine but its not detecting my cdrom/dvdroms, and none of the interface options in devd decrypter make it detect the drives either. something to do with ASAPI or ATAPI
[06:00] <Nergar> Flannel, to try out the server and hava a backup install for emergencies like this one. i think the problem was caused when i removed and partition and i created it again
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: title           BackTrack
[06:00] <mrdinkles> root            (hd0,1)
[06:00] <mrdinkles> makeactive
[06:00] <mrdinkles> chainloader     +1| that whats in the menu.lst
[06:01] <Flannel> mrdinkles: Alright, well, what partitions/harddrives do you have?
[06:01] <keithclark> sainzeo....no worries.  I guess it was not meant to work on this machine.
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: or boot to the old kernel in the grub menu.
[06:01] <_Casey_> no, i just went to update manager and installed the new stuff it had
[06:01] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[06:01] <sainzeo> keithclark, it has to work!
[06:01] <Flannel> mrdinkles: pastebin (not here) the output of that fdisk -l
[06:01] <aram_> ?
[06:01] <gluonman> For some odd reason I cannot get video to work right in Firefox.
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: yes and that was a kernel update
[06:01] <aram_> h1st0 :?
[06:01] <_Casey_> ahh ok
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: reboot your machine and hit esc at the grub menu select the old kernel and I bet your sound will work.
[06:01] <logan_> #republican
[06:01] <gluonman> Can anyone help me diagnose and fix my problem? Video not working well in Firefox.
[06:02] <_Casey_> can i just do the whole hdaintel thing again
[06:02] <h1st0> aram_: like a microsoft domain controller?
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, don't worry.  You tried.  It is not the only problem with Ubuntu.  It takes over 3-4 minutes to boot is the biggest one.
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda1   *           1        2404    19310098+  83  Linux
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda2            4677        4864     1510110    5  Extended
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda3            2405        4676    18249840   83  Linux
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda5            4677        4864     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:02] <h1st0> _Casey_: yeap should work if it worked before.
[06:02] <aram_> h1st0:  yes
[06:02] <_Casey_> ok well it takes a while, ima try it now
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, For whatever reasons, pclos just seems to work on this laptop.  I'm not sure why.
[06:02] <sainzeo> keithclark, hmm, ive experienced very good booting times, but who knows what's causing your problem
[06:02] <mrdinkles> Flannel: ??? whats pastebin?
[06:02] <Flannel> mrdinkles: please dont paste here.  But, its because your next install/whatever is actually sda3, so hd0,2 is right
[06:02] <Flannel> !paste | mrdinkles
[06:02] <ubotu> mrdinkles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <h1st0> aram_: not that I know of.  But there are dns and dhcp server options availible.
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, exactly.  Ubuntu is just not going to work out on this laptop.
[06:03] <aram_> ok thanks a lot
[06:03] <Nergar> anyhow thanks a lot Flannel
[06:03] <mrdinkles> Flannel: sorry =/ had a feeling that was bad
[06:03] <sainzeo> keithclark, well, i'm sure there is a workaround, just can't figure it out at the moment :( wish you wouldn't give up on ubuntu so fast :P
[06:03] <aram_> any one know if i can update from linux 7.04 to 7.10?
[06:03] <aram_> ubuntu
[06:03] <h1st0> keithclark: most likely it is just a driver issue if another distro works fine.
[06:03] <_Casey_> ki have ubuntu on my laptop, i had to make it work right
[06:03] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Now what was your reasoning for it being hdo2?? I thought i put the actual partition as the second one?
[06:03] <keithclark> sainzeo, life is short and I must move on.  I was impressed with the rest though.  Very impressive and responsive.
[06:04] <h1st0> aram_: just dist upgrade with the update manager
[06:04] <sainzeo> keithclark, glad to hear it
[06:04] <h1st0> !upgrade > aram_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:04] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[06:04] <keithclark> sainzeo, pclos has no 64 bit version which is one of the reasons why I tried ubuntu.
[06:04] <bigadam> Hey all
[06:04] <aram_> h1st0: thanks a lot
[06:04] <h1st0> aram_: np
[06:04] <aram_> the other think for install my graphic card
[06:05] <h1st0> aram_: what type of card
[06:05] <bigadam> I have a Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 on gusty running on a Dell 6400
[06:05] <aram_> i dont know i can not install vmware toll
[06:05] <aram_> too
[06:05] <sainzeo> keithclark, oh, so you're using the x64 version of ubuntu currently? maybe theres something with that...i run the 32bit because i've run into far less problems with it
[06:05] <aram_> tool
[06:05] <bigadam> I can not seem to mount cards and nothing shows as fdisk -l
[06:05] <bigadam> why !?
[06:05] <h1st0> aram_: lspci should tell you what type of video card
[06:05] <earthsound> Mini-Me: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <Flannel> mrdinkles: No, counting starts at 0 in GRUB, and at 1 (or a) in linux.  So sda1 is hd0,0
[06:05] <ifireball> aram_: Samba (which is available on any Linux including Ubuntu) can act as an NT-compatible DC, the next Samba version should also be able to imitate a w2k AD
[06:05] <keithclark> sainzeo, I will stick with the 32 bit version of pclos for the time being.
[06:06] <aram_> sorry i didnt get it
[06:06] <mrdinkles> Flannel: so isnt the partition sda2 considered hd0,1?
[06:06] <keithclark> sainzeo, I wanted to take advantage of my 64 bit processor
[06:06] <sainzeo> keithclark, maybe you would be up for trying the 32bit version of ubuntu? :)
[06:06] <h1st0> ifireball: really didn't know samba can act as dc nice
[06:06] <sainzeo> keithclark, yeah i hear ya
[06:06] <aram_> because my graphic quality is so low
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: type lspci | grep VGA
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: in a console
[06:06] <Flannel> mrdinkles: yes.  But your other linux install is sda3 not sda2
[06:06] <aram_> and vmware saying that i need to install vmware tools
[06:06] <keithclark> sainzeo, I'm not sure that there is any difference, really, between pclos and ubuntu.  Both are awesome from what I've seen.
[06:06] <aram_> h1st0 : in where?
[06:06] <mrdinkles> Flannel: But the partition with the OS is on sda2 =/
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: do you need to use vmware because virtualbox is a nice alternative.
[06:06] <Mini-Me> earthsound:  thanks, but I've tried looking in there, and I didn't find any settings obviously related to the acceleration or sensitivity :/
[06:07] <h1st0> aram_: in a terminal
[06:07] <Flannel> mrdinkles: no its not.
[06:07] <aram_> ok
[06:07] <aram_> i mean i can not install virtual box
[06:07] <ifireball> h1st0: there is actually a nice HOWTO on HOWTO-Forge about accomplishing this with Ubuntu
[06:07] <h1st0> aram_: applications > accessories > terminal    then when it opens type in lspci | grep VGA
[06:07] <mrdinkles> Flannel: how do you know lol?
[06:07] <aram_> how can i install it?
[06:07] <h1st0> ifireball: nice
[06:07] <aram_> ye i know where it is thabks
[06:07] <h1st0> !virtualbox > > (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:07] <Flannel> mrdinkles: mrdinkles because you pasted your filesystem
[06:07] <mrdinkles> Flannel: your godlike linux abilities are frightening
[06:07] <h1st0> !virtualbox > aram_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: but i could have sworn the partition was second in line
[06:08] <aram_> h1st0:when you send me a massage the color is yellow
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: because i'm typing your name first
[06:08] <keithclark> sainzeo, I don't see a real need to dual boot two comparable 32 bit o/s
[06:08] <Flannel> mrdinkles: 22:02 < mrdinkles> /dev/sda3            2405        4676    18249840   83  Linux
[06:08] <sainzeo> keithclark, oh no, i def understand
[06:08] <h1st0> Open a terminal and type in lscpi | grep VGA
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: ^^^^^^^^^
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: ima try it flannel, i trust you, you keep me warm in the winter
[06:08] <aram_> ok if i get yellow means you are typing for me
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: brb
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: yeapers
[06:08] <ifireball> aram_: yeah, when you want to tell someone something type their name, of the won't see your message in the flow of other messages
[06:08] <aram_> and any one else type for me show yellow?
[06:09] <h1st0> aram_: and when you type my name first it highlights the line for me.  Its the way we keep track in a busy room like this.
[06:09] <aram_> h1st0 :what does other color mean
[06:09] <keithclark> sainzeo, I just did some research in the background here and the DVD does seem to be a big downside to ubuntu.
[06:09] <Chris|> aram_ it depends on  your client
[06:09] <h1st0> aram_: dunno what color you are talking about and it depends on the client you are using.
[06:09] <keithclark> sainzeo, at least with what I've read online so far.
[06:10] <Geoffrey2> for right now, fglrx is the driver I want for ATI cards, correct?
[06:10] <sainzeo> keithclark, i haven't really had many problems with the DVD stuff, other than what I thought your problem was :(
[06:10] <aram_> h1st0:  because i think ind just will be online every day a just want to know the secruts:d
[06:10] <ajmorris_> uh oh, are there any freenode staff around?
[06:10] <sonja> how do i install this keyboard? http://freshmeat.net/projects/intdvorak_xkb/
[06:10] <aram_> h1st0:  what blue mean ?
[06:10] <keithclark> sainzeo, it appears like people spend hours to get it working.
[06:10] <aram_> does it mean any thing
[06:10] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: why?
[06:11] <_Casey_> ok time for reboot to see if sound works
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:
[06:11] <h1st0> aram_: it depends on your client
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:  what do you mean
[06:11] <_Casey_> h1st0 wish me luck
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:  what is my client?
[06:11] <keithclark> sainzeo, at least according to what Dell has been saying.  They are going to implement some changes to their own distro of Ubuntu to solve the problem.
[06:11] <keithclark> sainzeo, with LinDVD I think.
[06:11] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: someone changed the pswd on my channel
[06:11] <sainzeo> keithclark, yeah i heard that too that it would be working out of the box from Dell
[06:11] <izanbardprince> just get libdvdcss
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0: for example i receive blue ,purpule and load of color
[06:11] <bazhang> linDVD? wow
[06:11] <izanbardprince> and have at it
[06:11] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: are you a staffer? or do you know what teh command is to find the list of staff?
[06:11] <mrdinkles> Flannel: I got the error needs a specific pathname
[06:12] <h1st0> aram_: what ever program you are using to talk to us right now.
[06:12] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...I can't find any relevant settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, either :(
[06:12] <aram_> ok
[06:12] <mrdinkles> Flannel: how can i send you a print out of what i have int here without flooding?
[06:12] <aram_> h1st0:how could i find this information ?
[06:12] <Flannel> Mini-Me: User configurations are all stored in your homedir (in the dotfiles in your homedir)
[06:12] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: I would try in #freenode
[06:12] <Flannel> !paste | mrdinkles
[06:12] <ubotu> mrdinkles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <nickrud> sonja, system->prefs->keyboard, layouts. Hit the add button, and on the variants, choose dvorak
[06:12] <keithclark> sainzeo, Like I said, it's just what I read
[06:12] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: ah kewl, tks
[06:12] <nadio> Do I need PCI IDE Chipset support, for mobo IDE by any chance?
[06:12] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: np
[06:13] <aram_> h1st0:  is there any source that i can learn about terminal command ?
[06:13] <keithclark> sainzeo, I know that pclos worked out of the box, but that was the 32 bit version.  Not comparable here.
[06:13] <Flannel> !cli | aram_
[06:13] <ifireball> Mini-Me: most of your preferences are in your home dir, the gnome stuff is under .gconf
[06:13] <ubotu> aram_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:13] <bazhang> sainzeo: get the package you want from www.medibuntu.org it's called libdvdcss2 the instructions are there to install it
[06:14] <nickrud> Mini-Me, the mouse conf is kept in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse
[06:14] <keithclark> bashang, it was me that was looking for help and that did not work
[06:14] <Mini-Me> Flannel:  thanks - I'll poke around a bit more in there - in that case, are the sensitivity and acceleration specific to Gnome?
[06:14] <aram_> h1st0: i know what do you mean i men how can i learn the codes
[06:14] <_Casey_> ccongrats to me the alsa driver worked ;x
[06:14] <sainzeo> keithclark, did you see what bazhang wrote?
[06:14] <aram_> h1st0: like any sources?
[06:14] <Mini-Me> ifireball:  thanks to you, too :)
[06:14] <Flannel> Mini-Me: I imagine so, yes.  Infact nickrud just told you exactly where
[06:14] <sainzeo> keithclark, i would try that
[06:14] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  thanks to you, too :)
[06:14] <keithclark> bazhang, no big problem.
[06:14] <h1st0> aram_: just google linux console howto
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:?
[06:15] <nickrud> Mini-Me, you should just back up all the dot files, that covers just about everything :)
[06:15] <keithclark> sainzeo, I tried that with no luck.
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  what does it mena
[06:15]  * AutoMatriX told you : I'll be back
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  you mean i could search on google?
[06:15] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[06:15] <aram_> h1sto:i mean any book or learning matrial
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  any good source
[06:16] <ifireball> greenmanspirit: that really depends on your hardware...
[06:16] <sainzeo> greenmanspirit: when you plug your headphones in, try double-clicking the sound icon near the clock and look for a checkbox labeled "Front" - uncheck that and you shouldn' thear it out the front anymore
[06:16] <aram_> h1st0: that could teach me linux from fundumental
[06:16] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  well technically, I'm actually porting some settings over to a second box, so I'm not wanting to backup everything :)  this is something I'll be doing on a regular basis as I move from house to house every few days (run a script to backup to a MyBook, then back to each computer).  If I backed up ALL of home, I could run into some nasty version mismatch problems, especially if I try another distro :o
[06:16] <h1st0> aram_: google
[06:16] <mrdinkles> Flannel: How can i find the Pathname to that partition
[06:16] <aram_> h1st0: thanks a lot
[06:17] <keithclark> sainzeo, like I said, thanks for your help here.  I am not going to delete Ubuntu just yet.  I will try for another day to solve the problems.
[06:17] <aram_> could you please help me how could i type I
[06:17] <ifireball> aram_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/ <- a good place to start
[06:17] <sainzeo> keithclark, sounds good - sorry again i couldn't help ya out
[06:17] <greenmanspirit> sainzeo, I dont have a front option
[06:17] <aram_> ifireball: thanks a lot
[06:17] <nickrud> Mini-Me, ah. Well, nearly all the gnome settings are kept in that dir. if you run gconf-editor, you can browse through the settings, and the tree on the left matches the directory structure. That way you can find what you want to carry over
[06:17] <Flannel> mrdinkles: there is no pathname to that partition.  the pathname is (hd0,2)  You must need something else.  Like root and kernel lines
[06:18] <greenmanspirit> what the weird thing is, it used to work
[06:18] <aram_> i dont know who but some one send me a massage which how i could fix my graphic card
[06:18] <mrdinkles> Flannel: what should i put for Kernal?
[06:18] <aram_> and it says to type lspci I grep vgn
[06:18] <Flannel> mrdinkles: That depends on what youre trying to boot.  Really you should consult their documentation on all of that.
[06:18] <aram_> i dont know how to type I because know i am using i letter
[06:19] <aram_> the letter i need to type is near number 1 on keyboard
[06:19] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  thanks!  I'll check that out.  Since mouse settings are specific to Gnome, that raises some interesting questions:  If I installed KDE and Gnome, would the settings used depend on the active window (KDE or Gnome app) or the active desktop environment (i.e. if I run Amarok in Gnome, it would use Gnome's mouse settings)?
[06:19] <nickrud> Mini-Me, desktop settings
[06:19] <Flannel> Mini-Me: I suspect the latter
[06:19] <aram_> can any one help please?
[06:19] <paxton> When I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set some of the video modes, NONE of them show up in screen resolution
[06:20] <paxton> What am i doing wrong?
[06:20] <bazhang> aram_: what is the problem?
[06:20] <Dombre> I have a problem.  When trying to install my nvidea driver via the restricted drivers manager I got an error:  you need to install the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server for this program to work.  Upon searching for the package in synaptic I was unable to find it.  I'm working with ubuntu 7.10 64bit. any ideas?
[06:20] <soldats> paxton, i did that as well and they didnt show up either but it worked so i left it
[06:20] <aram_> bazhang:  i just want to type I but using the key near number one on keyboard
[06:20] <nickrud> Dombre, run a different kernel. the server kernel doesn't have the video drivers
[06:20] <aso> http://milou.myminicity.com/
[06:21] <aram_> bozhang: i dont know how to do it
[06:21] <paxton> But my screen is still at 800X600
[06:21] <aram_> and i am using i letter currently
[06:21] <JensenDied> lame kernel update and modules changing...
[06:21] <paxton> I still cant see much and  I just cannot get a higher resolution
[06:21] <bazhang> aram_: near number one? the ~ character? there are several near the 1 on the keyboard :}
[06:21] <aram_> bazhang: yes
[06:21] <ifireball> Mini-Me: that really depends on how the particular setting is implemented, for example I expect mouse settings to be desktop-global, however theme settings may depend on which environment the app is built upon
[06:21] <soldats> paxton, when you selected the res setting did you use the spacebar to select it. if so it should have used the selected setting
[06:22] <alain> guys i enabled the restricted driver but wen i restart it says its running on low-graphics screen graphic card could not be detected... how can i fix this
[06:22] <paxton> yes I used the spacebar and it marked it with a star
[06:22] <soldats> wierd
[06:22] <paxton> then I hit tab then ok
[06:22] <aram_> bazhang: because if i just press it ,it type ` and if i hold shift it type ¬
[06:22] <bazhang> aram_: what keyboard layout do you have? qwerty? you may need to adjust that if so
[06:22] <aram_> i can not type I
[06:22] <Dombre> nickrud:  How does one go about changing there kernel, all I've ever done is used the automatic updater.
[06:23] <soldats> i havent done it in a wile id have to look at it,
[06:23] <aram_> bazhang: it is dell and it is qwerty?
[06:23] <soldats> sorry but i gotta sleep
[06:23] <aram_> how could i adjust it/
[06:23] <aram_> bazhang: how could i adjust it?
[06:23] <Mini-Me> nickrud, flannel, ifireball:  thanks...I still haven't actually found my perfect sensitivity yet, but I'm working on it, and I was wanting to make sure I could transfer the settings back and forth between boxes.  It's only a moderate concern with regular desktop stuff, but in Windows, I know that Windows mouse settings greatly affected sensitivity in games.  Is this generally the case in Linux?  Do Linux games tend to take into account d
[06:23] <Mini-Me> esktop environment mouse settings, or do they ignore them in favor of more direct input?
[06:23] <bazhang> aram_: is it qwery? are you asking me or telling me? check the keyboard layout settings and adjust if so
[06:24] <nickrud> Dombre, you can look for linux-generic in synaptic and install that. That will pull in a kernel that has restricted drivers, and the restricted drivers themselves. When you reboot, you would choose the generic kernel in the boot menu. If it says starting grub and you don't see a choice, press escape
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: it is qwerty
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: how could i do that in linux ubuntu
[06:24] <bazhang> aram_: what about language? it may be set to another language
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: uk
[06:24] <Dombre> nickrud thanks.
[06:25] <ifireball> Mini-Me: that depends on the game, many games use SDL which bypasses the DE to go directly to the GFX hardware and therefore may also ignore DE mouse settings
[06:25] <nickrud> Mini-Me, don't play many games in linux, so I don't have any opinion on that. I seem to have to change the settings to different values on different machines, though
[06:25] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im trying to get my wifi working, i just formatted and installed Ubuntu... now when i go into Restricted drivers, i see broadcom 43xx ... but when i try to enale it, it says that the software source for this package is not enabled.... could someone help me please <--noob
[06:25] <aram_> ok thanks a lot every single thing was so useful
[06:25] <aram_> thansk
[06:25] <aram_> have good night
[06:25] <aram_> bye
[06:26] <sainzeo> ToddEDM: sounds like software repositories aren't enabled - go to System - Administration - Software Sources
[06:26] <nickrud> ToddEDM, system->admin->software sources, make sure the first 4 items are selected
[06:26] <ifireball> Mini-Me: when it comes to mouse, there is a difference between where the settings are stored and what the actually are in runtime, what the DE does is store the settings in its own file, and send a command to Xorg to implement the settings when the DE starts
[06:27] <ToddEDM> Thanks guys... im trying it now
[06:27] <ifireball> Mini-Me: some games change the mouse settings with a similar command when they start up
[06:27] <mempman> does anybody know of ALSA-driver respository online somewhereee?
[06:27] <ifireball> Mini-Me: games may also run in different screen resolution which would require different settings
[06:28] <mochaRHW> Has anyone using Ubuntu ever seen the Gnome menus get totally corrupted?
[06:28] <paxton> can someone tell me how to install "`xserver-xorgxrandr"?
[06:28] <paxton> its a package I think
[06:28] <mempman> anybody..?
[06:28] <Mini-Me> ifireball, that makes sense - I had kind of been wondering why the settings were Gnome-specific (and not in xorg.conf).  That's a good sign for games, though - it would definitely be a comforting thought if I knew that the same settings in "game x" resulted in the same control on different systems
[06:28] <amedx> maybe I
[06:28] <ifireball> mempman: the alas developers site has a huge repository with compatibility charts/etc.
[06:28] <Mini-Me> ifireball - of course, nickrud has apparently had different experiences, so either my hopes are misplaced or it's very game-dependent
[06:28] <paxton> does anyone have the package`xserver-xorgxrandr?
[06:29] <bazhang> mempman:  a google search turned up nothing? would you like me to try my google-fu?
[06:29] <ifireball> mempman: alsa*
[06:29] <mempman> yes alsa
[06:29] <mempman> im looking for debian repository for latest release
[06:29] <mempman> so that i can install via package manager
[06:29] <amedx> how install java jre in ubuntu 64 bits?
[06:30] <bazhang> paxton: an apt-cache search xserver will give you a list of packages; packages.ubuntu.com will show some items as well
[06:30] <nickrud> Mini-Me, no, nothing ifireball disagrees with what I said, I'm talking about different screen sizes, different base sensitivity of mice, that kind of thing. Not how the software messes around on top of that
[06:30] <amedx> i hate 64 bits version
[06:30] <biabia> hi. i installed dvd decrypter in wine but its not detecting my cdrom/dvdroms, and none of the interface options in devd decrypter make it detect the drives either. something to do with ASAPI or ATAPI
[06:31] <sonja> how do i set my mouse wheel to scroll more text at a time in firefox?
[06:31] <ifireball> Mini-Me: actually, you can place mouse settings in xorg.conf but gnome/kde will override them (other DEs may not though)
[06:31] <Mini-Me> nickrud - good point - I forgot about how different mouse hardware behaves differently
[06:31] <macogw> what does this mean?  Dec 21 01:31:41 downstairs kernel: [  481.661554] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[06:31] <amedx> ciao bambini
[06:32] <TNDT> hey, im having problems with the temperature on my acer laptop, and i was just wondering what kind of temperature monitoring and fan control software there is out there
[06:32] <ToddEDM> hey guys , i was having problems withthat broadcom 43xx driver... well i checked those 4 boxes in Software sources, still same thing... i cant get it working
[06:32] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  I just noticed the directory you led me to has an xml file with mouse settings, but it only mentions accleration (and a few other settings), not sensitivity.  How did you locate this in the first place?  I might have to do a bit more poking around in the same general area...
[06:32] <nickrud> amedx, I used this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[06:33] <drgeb> what does this mean ? (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[06:33] <nickrud> Mini-Me, use that gconf-editor I mentioned. Only the things you actually changed will show up there
[06:34] <nickrud> drgeb, it means that when X tried to read the monitor specs directly from the monitor, it couldn't
[06:34] <drgeb> why is X trying to do this and can I turn this off ?
[06:34] <nickrud> ToddEDM, is that machine on the net?
[06:34] <nickrud> ToddEDM, I think it needs to be to download the firmware
[06:34] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  oh, right...and actually, the sensitivity might be in there after all, if it's "motion_threshold" - I'll install that package right now though.
[06:35] <ToddEDM> no... i cant get my wifi working, thats what the driver is for
[06:35] <nickrud> Mini-Me, it's already installed, just run it from the terminal. Or, right click the menu bar and turn on the menu item
[06:35] <Mini-Me> hehe
[06:35] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  just noticed that :)
[06:35] <ToddEDM> ok , actually i think i have it on a usb stick here somewhere .... maaaaaybe, i think i did that last time
[06:35] <nickrud> Mini-Me, under apps->system
[06:36] <drgeb> nickrud why is X trying to do this and can I turn this off ?
[06:36] <ifireball> drgeb: you can turn that off by adding Option "UseEdid" "false" to your "Device" section in xorg.conf
[06:36] <nickrud> !wifi | ToddEDM then you'll need this page, there are instructions on how to do it on an unconnected machine
[06:36] <ubotu> ToddEDM then you'll need this page, there are instructions on how to do it on an unconnected machine: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:37] <nickrud> drgeb, see ifireball :)
[06:37] <ifireball> drgeb: that is, assuming you use Nvidia
[06:37] <nickrud> ToddEDM, unless you can wire it up temporarily (that's what I did)
[06:38] <drgeb> ifireball yes I am using nvidia and amd64 and I am having many strange issues with gdm login in using compiz and mythtv frontend
[06:38] <mempman> so, anybody?
[06:38] <TNDT> hey, im having problems with the temperature on my acer laptop, and i was just wondering what kind of temperature monitoring and fan control software there is out there
[06:39] <drgeb> nickrud ifireball let me reboot and see if this first solves this worning brb
[06:39] <ifireball> drgeb: I suspect the EDID thing may just be a side-effect and not the main problem then
[06:39] <amidaniel|away> TNDT: Look at sensors and gkrellm
[06:39] <nickrud> drgeb, no need to reboot, just log out and back in
[06:39] <ifireball> drgeb: no need to reboot, just restart GDM
[06:39] <paxton> I need a package called lbxutil aparently and there is nothing on google/ubuntu
[06:40] <ifireball> nickrud: log/out/in may not actually restart X (it depends...)
[06:40] <TNDT> ok, thanks amidaniel|away
[06:40] <nickrud> ifireball, does here, but you're right to suggest gdm restart. I sometimes mention the three finger salute just in case
[06:40] <paxton> how can I get the package lbxutil?
[06:40] <bazhang> amidaniel|away: you might want to change your nick from away...
[06:41] <AJ> guys in enable the restricted driver.. but i still get low-graphic mode.. it says screen graphic cant detect hardware... how can i fix this
[06:41] <ifireball> nickrud: like I said, it depends, I also seen it change between Ubuntu versions... but yeah, 3-finger works
[06:41]  * amidaniel|away is away, I swear! :)
[06:41] <nickrud> paxton, do you mean xutil ?
[06:41] <paxton> Yes
[06:41] <paxton> is there an apt-get for that?
[06:42] <Mini-Me> nickrud, ifireball, flannel:  thanks guys - that's all I needed, and it's time for bed now! :)
[06:42] <nickrud> paxton, it is already, it's a normal part of X . Are you trying to compile something?
[06:42] <paxton> yes
[06:43] <nickrud> ifireball, that's why I mention the three finger, I still see breezy now and then here
[06:43] <AJ> guys in enable the restricted driver.. but i still get low-graphic mode.. it says screen graphic cant detect hardware... how can i fix this
[06:43] <paxton> No package 'lbxutil' found
[06:43] <ifireball> nickrud: do you notice that despite all the failsafe stuff we're still spending most of the time here debugging video trouble...?
[06:43] <nickrud> ifireball, lol, yes, that's how I got sucked in, that and media :)
[06:44] <pazu> Hi everyone. I would like to know if anyone here know how to perform the proper procedure in order to save settings to USB while running Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD persistence (on CD)
[06:44] <nickrud> AJ, which restricted driver?
[06:44] <pazu> I tried the online community document but no luck.
[06:44] <AJ> nickrud: nvidia
[06:44] <bazhang> pazu: you should check out pendrivelinux.com for that
[06:44] <nickrud> AJ, I don't know nvidia, I'm ati only these days
[06:45] <pazu> i actually checked out the fix offer by pendrivelinux, but still nothing.  but if i plug that USB with a 6.06.1 ubuntu, it works
[06:46] <bazhang> pazu: I would suspect that the error is on your end; those folks really know their stuff--I have botched a usb key deal many a time before getting it right
[06:46] <fwaokda> im having to do: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" && "sudo depmod -a" everytime i boot up to make my wireless work does anyone know a way around this?
[06:46] <ifireball> AJ: lets start with the basics, which Nvidia card do you have?
[06:46] <nickrud> fwaokda, add   ndiswrapper   on a line by itself in /etc/modules
[06:46] <AJ> gforceFX
[06:47] <AJ> ifireball: nvidia GeForceFx
[06:47] <ifireball> AJ: ok, you're getting to the failsafe screen?
[06:47] <fwaokda> nickrud: alright im new to all this but let me take a peek at it and see if i can figure it out! ty
[06:47] <AJ> yes
[06:47] <nickrud> fwaokda, soon as you see it, you'll see example lines :)
[06:48] <ifireball> AJ: can you paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[06:48] <AJ> it says ubuntu is running on low graphic mode..screen graphic cant detect device
[06:48] <pazu> bazhang: alright. is there a way to check which part having the error during the process? because i followed their step competely, even the fixed from pendrivelinux - having to create a new modified OS LiveCD. Everything is covered up by graphic, i couldn't find anywhere to tell me the error
[06:48] <AJ> k wait
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud: did you mean /etc/modutils ?
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud: i dont have a /etc/modules
[06:48] <fwaokda> errr nvrmind
[06:48] <pazu> I am sure the USB i created is right, because it work off the bat with Ubuntu 6.06.1 LiveCD
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud, i made a goof
[06:49] <bazhang> pazu: you want to boot from usb? or install from usb? or something other
[06:49] <nickrud> fwaokda, used to be, that file had *lots* of entries, someday it might actually disappear for real :)
[06:49] <pazu> bazhang, I want to right from CD, but only save the setting to USB.
[06:49] <pazu> bazhang, I want to run from CD, but only save the setting to USB.
[06:50] <bazhang> pazu: okay; boot from livecd and save to usb? is that the gist of it?
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: i created my casper-rw usb using Ubuntu 7.10, but couldn't make it work. but if i put in my 6.06.1 CD, it work with that USB
[06:50] <ifireball> AJ: xorg.conf as well please
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: eys
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: yes
[06:50] <bazhang> haha
[06:51] <fwaokda> nickrud: so i just add "ndiswrapper" to the list there? and that should fix my problem?
[06:51] <GodBressAmericka> does anybody here want to make the holiday season special for a young boy? a young wide eyed boy?
[06:51] <wasabi_> anyone know any repo with evolution 2.21.4?
[06:51] <wasabi_> i'm having trouble building evolution-data-server from svn
[06:51] <nickrud> fwaokda, yes, that's a list of modules that for whatever reason don't get loaded automatically by the kernel on demand
[06:51] <chraso> >wols< i gets this output when run ps aux |grep -i xgl "chraso 6610 0.0 0.0 2880 744 pts/0..... xgl
[06:51] <GodBressAmericka> WHERE IS AN OINK REFUGEE SUPPOSED TO GO!?!?!!
[06:51] <nickrud> fwaokda, so the startup reads that and loads them in
[06:51] <portablejim> I am running a small buisness doing tasks for people for a price (eg, printing and Burning CDs). What sort of software would manage what i do?
[06:52] <bazhang> stop it GodBressAmericka
[06:52] <nickrud> GodBressAmericka, please
[06:52] <GodBressAmericka> what the fuck is this
[06:52] <GodBressAmericka> nerds are so whack
[06:52] <fwaokda> nickrud, k im gonna try it thanks
[06:52] <nickrud> GodBressAmericka, no, this is working channel, there's plenty of chatty ones
[06:52] <wasabi_> anyone know any repo with evolution 2.21.4?
[06:52] <wasabi_> i'm having trouble building evolution-data-server from svn
[06:53] <bazhang> wasabi_: apt-cache search evolution should give you that info
[06:53] <bazhang> !info evolution
[06:53] <ubotu> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2461 kB, installed size 7868 kB
[06:53] <wasabi_> yes i know
[06:53] <wasabi_> i have 2.12.1
[06:54] <bazhang> then the answer would be no wasabi
[06:54] <chraso> >wols_< i gets this output when run ps aux |grep -i xgl "chraso 6610 0.0 0.0 2880 744 pts/0..... xgl
[06:54] <pazu> Just for reference, here are the two links with instruction i followed.
[06:54] <pazu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence?highlight=%28livecd%29%7C%28persistence%29
[06:54] <pazu> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/27/making-ubuntu-710-casper-persistent/
[06:54] <wasabi_> bazhang, i've checked before asking. that's why i'm asking
[06:56] <AJ> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49130/
[06:56] <ifireball> AJ: ok.
[06:57] <andy_> does anyone here do I.T. work
[06:57] <mrdinkles> Using Ubuntu 7.10, Have a second Partition sda3 to be used as a boot option in grub-- I need to find out the Kernal file path-- how can i find this?
[06:57] <mochaRHW> can anyone in here answer question about the Gnone menus and alacarte's stability?
[06:57] <fwaokda> nickrud, thanks man that worked like a charm
[06:58] <nickrud> fwaokda, yw
[06:58] <andy_> not speciffically, but i do think gnome is a little bit bloated
[06:58] <andy_> try KDE
[06:58] <ifireball> AJ: hmm... that's the log for the failsafe mode, it doesn't show your problem...
[06:59] <ToddEDM> ok guys , i got my WIFI working...thanks... now whats the easiest way to update everything?
[06:59] <ifireball> when are you getting the error message, when you try to set nvidia and hit "test" ?
[06:59] <chraso> someone help me with my ATI Readon Xpress 200 on fiesty 7.05 with fglrx driver given in the disto dvd. when i installs the drivers and tries to start the desktop-effects it says "The composite extension not available"
[06:59] <andy_> use adept manager
[06:59] <mochaRHW> I had a problem where the Gnome applications menu got totally corrupted for no reason
[06:59] <tabman> there is a reported problem with some mouse, after a kernel upgrade whether its Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, the mouse cannot control the cursor, I don't know if its a driver issue or what ?
[06:59] <chraso> 7.04
[06:59] <ifireball> andy_: no starting flamewars
[07:00] <mochaRHW> I had to go into the applications.menu file and manually edit it to get it back to normal
[07:00] <andy_> my bad
[07:00] <nickrud> ToddEDM,  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:00] <fwaokda> anyone have a nice theme they use in ubuntu they could show me? im on the lookout for a new theme
[07:00] <cristhian> i have a problem with wine.  i cant play a flash player under wine.. any help?
[07:00] <alex__> wtf
[07:00] <ToddEDM> ok, nickrud ..thanks
[07:00] <keitherz> ok
[07:00] <andy_> you can use flashplayer in ubuntu without wine
[07:00] <bazhang> pazu: I read those threads--the persistence is not working? did you hit f6 and add option persistent?
[07:00] <ifireball> AJ: when are you getting the error message, when you try to set nvidia and hit "test" ?
[07:00] <keitherz> if i build my own GTK
[07:00] <AJ> here from the start.. i try to install the driver from the nvidia site.. it works .. but wen i restart.. it display low graphic and screen graphic not detected..
[07:01] <ifireball> andy_: yes.
[07:01] <nickrud> ToddEDM, for terminal types :) Otherwise, you'll see an orange thingo in your task bar when updates are available, click it
[07:01] <keitherz> would it replace my currently installed from apt-get
[07:01] <AJ> now i re enable the restricted driver and still dont fix
[07:01] <ifireball> AJ: why did you install from nvidia instead of from Ubuntu? the nvidia install pretty much breaks stuff in Ubuntu afaik...
[07:01] <keitherz> because i need to pu a patch in GTK
[07:02] <AJ> so wat can i possibly do to fix this ..
[07:02] <falieson> during the ubuntu install - can I setup a software raid?
[07:02] <cristhian> are there repositories for wine ?
[07:02] <nickrud> keitherz, if you're looking to patch gtk, you really should look at how ubuntu packages are put together, so you can create a package with your patch.
[07:03] <nickrud> !packaging
[07:03] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[07:03] <AJ> are there any fix for this problem ?
[07:03] <ifireball> AJ: we need to somehow get the right error log so we can understand whats happening
[07:03] <keitherz> nickrud where can i see that
[07:03] <ifireball> AJ: can you set it to use the "nv" driver 1st?
[07:03] <AJ> i did
[07:03] <nickrud> keitherz, I gave a link look just above
[07:03] <keitherz> any link on how packages are built
[07:04] <keitherz> oh sry
[07:04] <devilin> can anyone help me get my wireless network card to work?
[07:04] <nickrud> keitherz, np :)
[07:04] <ifireball> AJ: does it work? the log file you pasted seems to indicate you're using the VESA driver
[07:04] <andy_> devilin.... what kind of card do you have
[07:04] <nickrud> !wifi | devilin
[07:04] <ubotu> devilin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:04] <keitherz> nickrud thanks
[07:05] <liyang_> Bloody hell this channel is busy. :3
[07:05] <andy_> does anyone have experience with packet sniffing?
[07:05] <liyang_> (stupid autojoin. :p)
[07:05] <AJ> there are 2        Driver          "nv"
[07:05] <nickrud> keitherz, you will be very happy you did, since you can then easily back it out if you ever want to
[07:05] <AJ> i change it.. ok let me try it
[07:05] <fwaokda> how do i get the menu bar on the bottom to look like the one here? http://phorolinux.com/quick-tip-installing-ubuntu-studio-theme-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[07:05] <nickrud> liyang_, crowded, not always busy :)
[07:06] <liyang_> nickrud: yeah, that's probably what I meant. :3
[07:06] <ifireball> AJ: paste xorg.cong + log file when you're done plz
[07:06] <ifireball> AJ: e.g. xorg.conf
[07:06] <ifireball> andy_: yes...
[07:07] <andy_> ifireball, you have experience with packet sniffing?
[07:07] <nickrud> fwaokda, install avant-window-navigator , then alt-f2 avant-window-navigator
[07:07] <drgeb> nickrud That got rid of the WW about EID that I saw however now I am seeing and EE  Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[07:07] <keitherz> nickrud, so when they build packages they are default
[07:07] <nickrud> drgeb, I don't know much about nvidia, sorry
[07:07] <ifireball> andy_: yeah, using wireshark
[07:08] <andy_> yep
[07:08] <keitherz> cause when i build i need to replace the existing one
[07:08] <andy_> i have been using it for awile, but i have allways wanted to find out how to get text out of the packets
[07:08] <anditosan> hey, I am trying to connect to a wireless network, I got the password and it is 3 feet away from me and I can't connect
[07:08] <andy_> well i have just been experimenting really
[07:08] <anditosan> help me please
[07:08] <nickrud> keitherz, yes. you replace the existing one with your new one. This way you don't have stray files mucking up your system.
[07:08] <devilin> the broadcom43xx restricted driver seemed to work but then it would not allow me to connect to my home wireless network
[07:09] <ToddEDM> does anyone find ubuntu to be less stable than XP?
[07:09] <ifireball> andy_: you can right-click any TCP packet and select "follow TCP stream"
[07:09] <ToddEDM> or is it just me?
[07:09] <andy_> thanks
[07:09] <keitherz> nickrud: so i dont have to use --prefix=
[07:09] <falieson> can I setup a software raid from the ubuntu install?
[07:09] <Ali_ix> ToddEDM: no OS can be foon and bullet proof :) trust me! every one can mess an OS in less than five minutes :)
[07:09] <nickrud> keitherz, all that is preset in the package. You'd add your patch to the patching system in the package, and when you build it the patch would be automatically applied. All the dirty stuff is done for you
[07:10] <Ali_ix> *fool
[07:10] <ifireball> andy_: note that it'll setup a filter  so you'll see only packets of that stream, you'll need to clear it if you want to see other packets afterwards
[07:10] <keitherz> nickrud: no my patch is to edit one file in the source
[07:10] <ogre>  I installed all packages for ubuntustudio from synaptic from a previous ubuntu install now my wireless isnt working. I have an ipw3945. any ideas what it could be?
[07:10] <nickrud> keitherz, any special configure options used to meld it with other software are already set
[07:10] <nickrud> keitherz, exactly.
[07:11] <andy_> thanks, so you will be able to see text of what is being sent
[07:11] <keitherz> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463773
[07:11] <andy_> i am trying to learn at home where nothing i do is wrong. I just want to learn how things work
[07:12] <devilin> has anyone else had problems getting a broadcom wireless adapter (mine is built into my laptop). The restricted driver does not fix my connectivity issues.
[07:12] <ifireball> andy_: please type my name when you talk to me, you'll, see the text unless its encrypted
[07:12] <Memot> I asked this question before, but i want to make sure of it. Can i run Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon as a live CD on my Windows XP computer, not from a CD, but from the computer itself? If i can, how so, the file i DL says Ubuntu 7.10-desktopxxxx.RAR, i though they were supposed to be a .iso file so i could burn them on a CD. (Sorry for my bad English)
[07:12] <fwaokda> how do i search for packages i can download/install in terminal
[07:12] <fwaokda> devilin, umm i just got through setting mine up ha... i just dont really know what i did to fix it :(
[07:12] <dryrot> how do i get xfce4 to work as my window manager for vnc ?
[07:13] <nickrud> keitherz, enable the source repos (system->admin->software sources) then do apt-get source <what was it again?> in a clean directory, look around
[07:13] <Ali_ix> Memot: .rar? where did you got it? :|
[07:13] <keitherz> ok
[07:13] <smultron> fwaokda: sudo aptitude search <package name>
[07:13] <andy_> ifireball_: is that better
[07:13] <fwaokda> thanks smultron
[07:13] <Memot> www.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Ali_ix> fwaokda: use aptitude search PACKAGE coomand
[07:13] <ifireball> andy_: yeah
[07:13] <devilin> fwaokda, lol funny but not exactly helpful
[07:14] <nickrud> keitherz, gtk+2.0 is the source package
[07:14] <Memot> Oh.
[07:14] <keitherz> thanks
[07:14] <fwaokda> devilin, sry i didn't mean anything by it which one you have 4311?
[07:14] <ifireball> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-12-20-025-26-NW-MS-LL <- great news to mixed env sysadmins
[07:14] <andy_> ifireball_: can you see other traffic, such as web traffic in plain text or just tcp?
[07:14] <keitherz> i found the patching system guide
[07:14] <tabman> ?
[07:14] <devilin> fwaokda, lol it is ok i am not mad. did you use ndiswrapper?
[07:14] <Memot> God, sorry for any trouble i caused you. My mistake.
[07:15] <fwaokda> ya i did
[07:15] <nickrud> keitherz, it's been a few years since I modified a package, so if I say much beyond this, I'd almost certainly get it wrong :)
[07:15] <andy_> ifireball_: so it works with https traffic?
[07:15] <ifireball> andy_: well, its a little hard to follow UDP, most important stuff with any meaningful amounts of text is TCP anyway (web is TCP y'know...)
[07:15] <Scusio> hi, i've just installed ubuntu 7.04 with dual boot, everything works fine except i dont have internet on ubuntu, but when i switch to windows i do have internet, any1 got an idea?
[07:15] <steelwolf> Hi i have only 2 files listed on http://203.116.63.66/dl/ but when i did ls -l there's other 2 tar files but its not showing up.is it permission problem?i have it all chmod 777
[07:15] <fwaokda> devilin, and had to add it to /etc/modules for it to work on boot up
[07:15] <andy_> ifireball_:
[07:16] <ifireball> andy_: you wouldn't be able to see HTTPS becasue its encrypted, you'll just see "junk"
[07:16] <Ali_ix> Scusio: what is your connection type?
[07:16] <fwaokda> devilin, if you dont add it to modules then you have to do modprobe ndiswrapper or something like that to get it to pick up
[07:16] <Ali_ix> Scusio: adsl, local network, wireless?
[07:16] <steelwolf> Hi i have only 2 files listed on http://203.116.63.66/dl/ but when i did ls -l there's other 2 tar files but its not showing up.is it permission problem?i have it all chmod 777
[07:16] <andy_> ifireball_: do you know of an IRC channel that is dedicated to sniffing and web security?
[07:16] <devilin> fwaokda, i see.... that is what i did the first time i got this laptop to work.... i will have to look up the ndiswrapper setup section in the forums again i suppose.
[07:17] <Ali_ix> steelwolf: what is file name? does the two hidden files start with "."? do you set any extra rule in apache conf?
[07:17] <ifireball> andy_: nope
[07:17] <fwaokda> devilin, sry im new to linux stuff but i did somehow get it to work with some other ppl helping me
[07:17] <steelwolf> Ali_ix, there isnt
[07:17] <steelwolf> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 376657920 Dec 21 07:52 lester.tar
[07:17] <devilin> fwaokda, what precisely did you add to the /ect/modules ? just so i can get an idea
[07:17] <tabman> can anyone help me with the mouse problem please ?
[07:17] <steelwolf> something like this
[07:17] <jackal_> can someone help,  i installed flash plugin but it keeps telling me to install flash when i click install it tells me its already installed i rebooted but it doesnt go away
[07:17] <andy_> has anyone tried anything but ubuntu?
[07:18] <carenet> how do i install plugins
[07:18] <redd0t> tabman: whats the problem
[07:18] <fwaokda> devilin, "ndiswrapper"
[07:18] <redd0t> andy: i ran gentoo a while back
[07:18] <daryl_> hey guys, I removed compiz from my system but now there is no window manager starting only gnome, I have to force metacity to launch, how do I fix this?
[07:18] <Scarey> andy_, yes.. lots
[07:18] <keitherz> whats the package name for gtk+2
[07:18] <Ali_ix> steelwolf: no idea, try the #ubuntu-server channel :)
[07:18] <macd> daryl_, add it to your session
[07:18] <ifireball> andy_: you name it...
[07:18] <hunteke> question re: the new init: does it actually improve startup time?
[07:18] <nickrud> keitherz, should be gtk+2.0
[07:18] <fwaokda> im trying to install avant-window-navigator but its giving me an error about unmet dependencies... how do i get around this?
[07:18] <redd0t> i also tried to use fedora, but i got tired of it too quickly
[07:18] <macd> System --> preferences --> sessions
[07:18] <daryl_> macd, is there a non gui way of doing this?
[07:18] <redd0t> and knoppix was my first
[07:18] <andy_> red0t: i have used suse, fedora, ubuntu, and knoppix
[07:19] <keitherz> no it wont work nickrud
[07:19] <Ali_ix> !flashissues
[07:19] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[07:19] <andy_> oh and mandriva
[07:19] <devilin> fwaokda, ok cool thanks for the help i am off to find the ndiswrapper i used before.... i think i will ask around here for someone to give em a hand two but hearing that you used ndiswrapper was very helpful
[07:19] <hunteke> I know the event based system makes things easier to deal with devices that are constantly coming and going, but how about speed of startup and shutdown
[07:19] <redd0t> oooo suse.. i used to get into arguements with my housemate over mandriva.
[07:19] <nickrud> fwaokda, system->admin->software sources, enable the first 4 items
[07:19] <hunteke> I haven't noticed a significant speedup on my box
[07:19] <hunteke> any one else?
[07:19] <macd> daryl_, umm, off hand I'm not sure, most likely, .xsession
[07:19] <daryl_> OK
[07:19] <daryl_> THANKS
[07:19] <andy_> i love fedora, but it does not offer great wireless support
[07:19] <fwaokda> devilin,  np gluck i'll be around i think for awhile maybe there is something else i remember that might help you
[07:20] <andy_> i run fedora 8 on my desktop
[07:20] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok i'll try that
[07:20] <nickrud> keitherz, system->admin->software sources, enable the source repo
[07:20] <devilin> can anyone help me set up ndiswrapper to use a windows driver to get my broadcom43xxx wireless adapter to work
[07:20] <Symmetria> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[07:20] <glaucous> I need some help with crontab, my entries don't seem to be running :(
[07:20] <redd0t> i always get tired of fedora after like 3 hours
[07:20] <odracir34> wtf is fedora 8
[07:20] <Scusio> euhm
[07:20] <ifireball> macd: .xsession != gnome session... making such a file will probably break his system...
[07:20] <andy_> it is a different linux opperating system
[07:20] <fwaokda> nickrud, the first four are already checked :(
[07:20] <Memot> odracir34: different Linux OS
[07:21] <odracir34> i see
[07:21] <redd0t> last time i think it was the no filesystem support for xfs by default. and kde wasnt in the default repos
[07:21] <keitherz> oh poof i forgot i disable it
[07:21] <FAJALOU4197> im wondering about mp3's and ubuntu.
[07:21] <Scusio> Ali_ix: im connected through i router
[07:21] <odracir34> and what is the problem woth ot
[07:21] <andy_> odracir34: are you new to linux?
[07:21] <Scusio> home network
[07:21] <FAJALOU4197> relatively
[07:21] <nickrud> fwaokda, strange, I got it just fine. do sudo aptitude install avant-window-navigator in a terminal, and put all the error stuff on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:21] <odracir34> yes i'm
[07:21] <glaucous> does cron keep a log or something?  my entries aren't running
[07:21] <fwaokda> k
[07:22] <odracir34> i have now running the 7.10 ubuntu desktop
[07:22] <redd0t> yeah, i keep coming back to ubuntu.
[07:22] <Ali_ix> Scusio: ok, how to you get IP in windows? dhcp? or static ip? if it is static one, you should set ip, gateway and dns settings in ubuntu, so you can access network and internet
[07:22] <andy_> odracir34: you might fall in love with it enough to dump windows
[07:22] <odracir34> and i have found al my tools i need to do illegaal stuf
[07:22] <andy_> lol
[07:22] <redd0t> hahah
[07:22] <Ali_ix> glaucous: cron can mail the user on failuers
[07:23] <andy_> odracir34: hacking?
[07:23] <redd0t> for that i just try to watch a dvd in mplayer
[07:23] <tabman> redd0t: here is a reported problem with some mouse, after a kernel upgrade whether its Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, the mouse cannot control the cursor, I don't know if its a driver issue or what ?
[07:23] <odracir34> i have dumpt windows
[07:23] <liyang_> andy_: If I didn't have to use Aperture I'd dump OS X, with the new Compiz in Gutsy.
[07:23] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok that worked. whats the differ between what you got me to type and this "sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator"
[07:23] <Ali_ix> !cron
[07:23] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:23] <glaucous> Ali_ix: thanks, but it's not even doing a touch
[07:23] <liyang_> (that was a lie.)
[07:23] <odracir34> i have format it
[07:23] <odracir34> i only use ubuntu
[07:23] <FAJALOU4197> mp3s
[07:23] <Ali_ix> !cron > glaucous
[07:23] <nickrud> fwaokda, nothing , they both do the same thing. If one works, the other should
[07:23] <ifireball> andy_: I think he means watching DVDs, playing MP3s, etc...
[07:23] <FAJALOU4197> what do you convert them to in ubuntu.
[07:23] <glaucous> Ali_ix: I've read the howtos
[07:23] <odracir34> its easy to work with.
[07:24] <odracir34> little diffrent
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: well, what is your command?
[07:24] <nickrud> fwaokda, just different front ends to the package management system
[07:24] <redd0t> tabman: okay. what mouse do you have. run lsmod and tell me what you see
[07:24] <kenboo> can I remove tracker package safely?
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: do you have the right syntax in file for times?
[07:24] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: ogm
[07:24] <Varka> odracir34, but at least you can't smoke it ;)
[07:24] <glaucous> Ali_ix: * * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/crontest
[07:24] <nickrud> kenboo, yes
[07:24] <fwaokda> nickrud, hmm well yours did i think... i cant find it though lol
[07:24] <macd> glaucous, have you looked at /var/log/syslog, it shows the cron runs
[07:24] <odracir34> Varka:  yes
[07:24] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: i don't use ubuntu, but i have an mp3 player and was wondering if it would work
[07:24] <Memot> Is there any way to isten to mp3 in Ubuntu?
[07:24] <liyang_> (Compiz, or rather, its setup tool is still a bit buggy; but I'm impressed. Well done Canonical et al.)
[07:24] <glaucous> macd, I'll go check that out, thanks
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: * * * * *? are you sure? :}
[07:24] <nickrud> fwaokda, in that same terminal, type avan<tab> <-- hit the tab key
[07:24] <andy_> ifireball_: oh? lol. i will be an Computer Science major, but i have to get in my hacking spree every now and then. It has gotten better though
[07:24] <kenboo> nickrud: thanks.  this makes my machine so slow.
[07:24] <macd> !mp3 > Memot
[07:25] <odracir34> my english is not o good , i'm from holland the land of the weed and paddo's
[07:25] <nickrud> kenboo, I don't use it either
[07:25] <glaucous> Ali_ix, that's every minute, right?
[07:25] <Ali_ix> glaucous: * * * * * mean every second. minute, hour, day and month :}
[07:25] <FAJALOU4197> notice ifireball:test
[07:25] <redd0t> memot: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-mad or maybe its fluendo-mp3
[07:25] <glaucous> oh :)
[07:25] <glaucous> well, it still isn't working every second
[07:25] <Ali_ix> glaucous: :)
[07:25] <kenboo> nickrud: ah. hehe.
[07:25] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: yeah, I don't think I understand what you're asking for
[07:25] <tabman> redd0t: I'm not on linux right now as its so difficult to the use the OS with a not working mouse
[07:25] <genesis> hello all  where do I put my downloads for my motherboard at on ubuntu 7.04?
[07:25] <macd> glaucous, yeah 1 * * * * is every minute
[07:26] <fwaokda> nickrud, nothing happens just a beep, after looking at the terminal after i type what you said it said it didn't find any packages
[07:26] <redd0t> tabman: what mouse do you have
[07:26] <odracir34> do i need a virus scanner for ubuntu or is o it so save im dont need it ?
[07:26] <glaucous> ok, but it isn't touching the file no matter how often it's supposed to
[07:26] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball; ok so i have a creative mp3 player, do you know if they work on ubuntu, and what do you use to play mp3s on ubuntu?
[07:26] <tabman> redd0t: iits a normal laser mouse
[07:26] <redd0t> tabman: what brand and model
[07:26] <tabman> redd0t: 3D Optical Mouse
[07:26] <Scusio> lol @ virusscanner
[07:26] <andy_> odracir34: you do not need a virus scanner, but clamv makes a nice one
[07:26] <B> list c++
[07:26] <ifireball> andy_: why don't you try doing something useful, like writing better AD support for Ubuntu...
[07:27] <tabman> redd0t: Twiser, chinese made
[07:27] <odracir34> i  see
[07:27] <redd0t> hmm..
[07:27] <Ali_ix> glaucous: try this for every five minutes: */5 *   * * *   | i was wrong about second, it starts with minute
[07:27] <redd0t> tabman: hang on
[07:27] <odracir34> and do i need a forrewall?
[07:27] <macd> glaucous, is that cron running as root? though I think /tmp would be fine as any users
[07:27] <odracir34> firrewall
[07:27] <glaucous> macd: I want it to run as root, yes.  currently it isn't running at all :(
[07:27] <macd> glaucous, k, so your editing crontab as root right?
[07:27] <tabman> redd0t: sure
[07:28] <glaucous> macd: sudo crontab -e
[07:28] <nickrud> fwaokda, one minute, my mind is sleepy
[07:28] <andy_> ifireball: well, ... that might be an idea. Looking through the colleges packets might be interesting and educational also... :)
[07:28] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: I use Exile media player, the built-in players totem an rythmbox can also play MP3s with the right codecs installed
[07:28] <fwaokda> nickrud, np
[07:28] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: do you know if that's compatible with most mp3 players
[07:28] <redd0t> tabman: in windows, does this mouse require special drivers, or does it run off of the generic mouse driver
[07:29] <macd> glaucous, let me try what your doing one sec, this a gutsy box?
[07:29] <tabman> redd0t: generic mouse driver
[07:29] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: that really depends on your player, if it has mass USB storage support it'll be no problem
[07:29] <glaucous> macd: yes, gutsy
[07:29] <_Casey_> how come i cant "modprobe -r ipw3945" and switch to ipwraw
[07:29] <macd> works for me
[07:29] <andy_> redd0t, he might be using a bluetooth mouse that needs interface support
[07:29] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: I suppose you should just try it with the live-CD
[07:29] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: usb storage? no it's a harddrive player.
[07:29] <Pelchflum> I'm trying to blacklist prism2_usb so ndiswrapper won't spot it. I made the blacklist-prism2_usb file in modprobe.d, but to no avail. Can anyone give me advice? Thanks.
[07:29] <kraut> moin
[07:29] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: true true.
[07:29] <macd> sudo crontab -e, then */1 * * * * /usr/bin/.......
[07:29] <nickrud> fwaokda, doh, I had to add another repository to install it.  I did   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , and added the line:  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/ gutsy avant-window-navigator    .  This is a third party repo, it's not signed so you will get a warning about authentication. Use at your own risk.
[07:29] <redd0t> tabman: is it a bluetooth mouse?
[07:30] <fwaokda> nickrud, k let me try that
[07:30] <tabman> redd0t: it used to work fine with older version of linux, the problem is with the newer versions I guess its to do with the kernel upgrade, no its not bluetooth mouse, connected through PS/2
[07:30] <glaucous> macd: ok, I added the /1.  I'll tell you in a minute if it works better
[07:30] <_Casey_> what all wifi apps are there
[07:30] <glaucous> but my real crons aren't running either
[07:30] <ToddEDM> ok another question guys... whats the easiest way to get all the plugins i will need to view stuff on the internet
[07:30] <andy_> _Casey_ what are you talking about?
[07:31] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: mass USB storage support means it works like a USB pen drive, it doesn't have to be harddrive-based
[07:31] <tabman> redd0t: I used it fine with ubuntu 6.06
[07:31] <_Casey_> andy_ the ipw3945 question or after?
[07:31] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: my mp3 player is harddrive
[07:32] <Memot> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to be able to play MP3, DVD, Flash, Quicktime, WMA and WMV.
[07:32] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok now after adding that line i do the cmd from earlier?
[07:32] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: well, like I said, just try it, that'll give you the best answer
[07:32] <_Casey_> andy_ ?
[07:32] <andy_> _Casey_ : gotcha
[07:32] <nickrud> !restricted | ToddEDM
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: and you upgraded to 7.10 and it didnt? it might be a problem with your xorg.
[07:32] <ubotu> ToddEDM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <andy_> thinking....
[07:32] <fwaokda> it still says 0 packages instaled
[07:32] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok, live cd you find that on the main site?
[07:32] <nickrud> fwaokda, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install avant-window-navigator
[07:32] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: yes.
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: xorg.conf
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: sry its getting late.
[07:33] <_Casey_> i want to unload the ipw3945 driver and load ipwraw but it wont let me
[07:33] <andy_> sleep is for newbs.... lol
[07:33] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok thank you, what about windows games, is there like an emulator or something?
[07:33] <tabman> redd0t: yeah it didn't work after upgrade either on Ubuntu or openSUSE 10.3, what is xorg.conf ? what to do with it
[07:33] <_Casey_> faj
[07:33] <_Casey_> use wine
[07:33]  * nickrud is going to bed in ...  10 minutes
[07:33] <_Casey_> winehq.org
[07:33] <glaucous> macd: it appears I didn't have a line break after that line so it didn't take.  I can't think of any situation where that behaviour would be desireable
[07:33] <fwaokda> nickrud, still no worky
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: hmmm..... xorg.conf is the configuration file for the xorg server
[07:34] <thyko> hi
[07:34] <thyko> what can one not 'apt-get' on ubuntu64 right now?
[07:34] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: that a hit or miss thing, some games work with wine (the emulator), some don't, some have native Ubuntu versions, it really depends on the game
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: it resides in /etc
[07:34] <fwaokda> nickrud,  says no candidate version found
[07:34] <tabman> redd0t: and what do you want me to do with it ?
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: idk.. im thinking
[07:34] <nickrud> fwaokda, did you do aptitude update ?
[07:34] <fwaokda> yes
[07:34] <macd> glaucous, nor can I, maybe you should test it again and submit a bug on launchpad.net/ubuntu
[07:34] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok thank you, where are those found?
[07:35] <Memot> !google wine halo pc
[07:35] <glaucous> macd: but my two real entries above it still don't work :( :(
[07:35] <Memot> :-(
[07:35] <thyko> anyone on amd64 here?
[07:35] <fwaokda> me
[07:35] <chraso> where should i paste some outpur lines?
[07:35] <fwaokda> thyko, meh
[07:36] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: there are games in the "Add/Remove" application in Ubuntu, also there is a lot of information in the Ubuntu wiki about games
[07:36] <nickrud> fwaokda, bummer. I just check for myself, and they've taken the package out of the repo. Sorry for the red herring, I got it less than a week ago
[07:36] <fwaokda> :(
[07:36] <redd0t> tabman: you might need to reconfigure the xserver, try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in another virtual console.
[07:36] <glaucous> macd: /var/log/syslog says it completed successfully so I'm thinking it's not cron.  I'll investigate further
[07:36] <glaucous> macd, Ali_ix: thanks for your help
[07:36] <fwaokda> nickrud, where can i go get it then? im new to ubuntu idk where to look
[07:36] <macd> glaucous, thats pretty wierd, have you tried cleaning the whoe thing out by hitting crtl+k a few times
[07:36] <macd> glaucous, disregard that last line ;P
[07:36] <thyko> fwaokda: what critical apps are not on there?
[07:36] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: alright thank you, i think i will try the live cd overbreak, im sick of windows, and also i have wireless, will that still work.
[07:36] <redd0t> tabman: it will prompt you in the terminal for your choices with hardware.
[07:37] <fwaokda> thyko, ! idk
[07:37] <ifireball> can anyone say why would I want to use AWM as oppsed to the normal Gnome panel?
[07:37] <tabman> redd0t: I'm not on linux right now, also my current linux installation is openSUSE10.3
[07:37] <cylence> is apt-get ubuntu-specific or at least the default app manager on ubuntu?
[07:37] <macd> ifireball, its eye candy, other than that Ithink gnome panel is a better interface
[07:37] <B> cylence: it's debain specific
[07:37] <redd0t> tabman: oh. i have never used SUSE.
[07:37] <macd> cylence, it comes from debian, and ubuntu is a debian derivitive
[07:37] <thyko> fwaokda: what?
[07:37] <cylence> B: ah, good to know!!
[07:38] <keitherz> what does pushd command do?
[07:38] <cylence> macd: and thank you as well
[07:38] <tabman> redd0t: but the problem is across all distro, faced it on Ubuntu as well as SUSE
[07:38] <nickrud> fwaokda, join #awn here for the latest, they may know a repo that's up
[07:38] <Sonic> apt-get works in all debian based distros
[07:38] <keitherz> and sed
[07:38] <nickrud> goodnight all
[07:38] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: wireless depends on your card, some card "just work" other need some effort to get working, in any case year learning a whole new OS it'll take time a patience, but I think that eventually EVERYTHING can be made to work
[07:38] <cylence> I'm a tad unfamiliar with it. I understand "apt-get application", but I'm looking to upgrade apache2.0 to 2.2, is there an easy way to do this?
[07:39] <chraso> can anyone tell me the paste bin link?
[07:39] <macd> later nick
[07:39] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: talk about irc noob, how do you notice?
[07:39] <fwaokda> thyko, im new to ubuntu idk what your talking about sry
[07:39] <Vaalth> hey, im having some problems playing audio in ubuntu. ive tried xmms, amarok, and rhythmbox
[07:39] <Vaalth> the sound is really quiet
[07:39] <thyko> oh
[07:39] <Vaalth> anyone have any ideas on what to do?
[07:39] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: why would you want to do that
[07:39] <morghanphoenix> anyone know what driver I should use for 3d acceleration on a laptop with a nVidia Quadro NVS 120M video card?
[07:40] <tekcop> Vaalth, this may sound stupid, but did you check PCM volume?
[07:40] <B> cylence: try apt-get update apache2
[07:40] <redd0t> tabman: well the other option is xorgcfg from the command line. you can run this the next time you are in linux. it is a text based menu driven configuration tool
[07:41] <Ademan> where should i be looking to get game controllers/joysticks working?
[07:41] <B> cylence: also you could use synaptic to install it
[07:41] <cylence> B: That didn't work, but "apt-get upgrade apache2
[07:41] <cylence> did work
[07:42] <cylence> but it is staying at 2.0.*
[07:42] <cylence> not sure what that is
[07:42] <cylence> is it another package manager?
[07:42] <tabman> redd0t: and what to do after running xorgcfg ?
[07:42] <keitherz> ok so how can i apply my patch after patching it
[07:42] <keitherz> should i build it manually
[07:42] <redd0t> xorg will need to be restarted.
[07:42] <quaal> anyone use electricsheep
[07:42] <ifireball> morghanphoenix: the restricted "nvidia" driver
[07:43] <tabman> redd0t: ok I'll just switch right now & try, so lets see but I doubt it'll work
[07:43] <B> cylence:what ubuntu version do you have?
[07:43] <cylence> 6.0.7 or something to that affect
[07:43] <Scusio> Ali_ix: i've tried to set my ip and gateway etc.. but couldn't find where...i tried to contact my router through firefox typing 192.168.1.1 which will work at windows, but it said firefox couldn't find that location
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> there isn't a listing for the quadro on the nVidia page
[07:43] <redd0t> tabman: okay
[07:43] <cylence> it's the one that is supported for 5 years
[07:43] <B> mm
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> They don't even have windows drivers for this card, only dell released drivers
[07:43] <ifireball> cylence: the LTS doesn't include 2.2 afaik
[07:43] <Wh1rlw1nd> Hi all I just installed Ubuntu-desktop-7.04 on a Xeon 3040. I see my two cpus, but I would like to know if I can install a specific prebuilt kernel for the XEON?
[07:43] <redd0t> tabman: if its a driver problem you might have to find and download the old mouse driver and install it
[07:44] <FAJALOU4197> ifirefox: do you know about netgear stuff?
[07:44] <B> ifireball: thought so
[07:44] <Ali_ix> Scusio: you can go to windows and note ip and gateway you have there, then get back to ubntu and set them up
[07:44] <cylence> that is correct, but does that mean I can't even upgrade to it?
[07:44] <Scusio> where
[07:44] <ifireball> B. cylence : it may me in the backports repository though, I never looked int it
[07:44] <Scusio> do i set them
[07:45] <cylence> ifireball: you mean the version of apache 2.2 that would work on the LTS?
[07:45] <Vaalth> tekcop, yeah the system volume and the volume in all the media players were maxed
[07:45] <ifireball> cylence: yeah
[07:45] <Scusio> Ali_ix: where do i set them up
[07:45] <macd> cylence, hardy will have apache2.2, as does gutsy
[07:46] <jonnymac> how would I go about opening .rar files in gutsy?
[07:46] <cylence> macd: :s
[07:46] <bazhang> Scusio: who are you addressing? In a busy channel like this its a good idea to use someone's nickname (nick) in your response or they may miss it
[07:46] <macd> cylence, its possible you could get a dapper backport request, not sure there was alot of changes
[07:46] <redd0t> jonnymac: install unrar-free and use archive manager
[07:46] <Ali_ix> Scusio: administration > network in menues
[07:46] <aram> hello
[07:46] <ifireball> macd: you sure feisty didn't have it?
[07:46] <aram> hi
[07:46] <aram> <-- Moniker42 has quit (Connection timed out)
 does any one could please help me
[07:46] <aram>  how can i install linux ubuntu
[07:46] <aram>  i am new user and just want to install the linux by manual partitoan configration
[07:46] <aram>  and i dont know what partition do i need
[07:46] <aram>  and how should i do it
[07:46] <jonnymac> thanks kindly reddot
[07:46] <Wh1rlw1nd> Which kernel do I install for Xeon? I am currently using 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:46] <macd> ifireball, it does
[07:47] <redd0t> jonnymac: no problem
[07:47] <cylence> you mean to reinstall ubuntu altogether?
[07:47] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:47] <B> cylence: no, use upgrade the dist
[07:47] <redd0t> :)
[07:47] <aram> cylence: i mean clean install
[07:47] <chraso> please read the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49134/ contains my output of desktop-effects
[07:47] <cylence> macd: sadly, this is a production web server, its too late for me to completely redo the server
[07:48] <aram> hi
[07:48] <aram> <-- Moniker42 has quit (Connection timed out)
 does any one could please help me
[07:48] <aram>  how can i install linux ubuntu
[07:48] <aram>  i am new user and just want to install the linux by manual partitoan configration
[07:48] <aram>  and i dont know what partition do i need
[07:48] <aram>  and how should i do it
[07:48] <compwiz18_> !enter | aram
[07:48] <ubotu> aram: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:48] <compwiz18_> !install
[07:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:48] <somerville32> !install | aram
[07:48] <ubotu> aram: please see above
[07:48] <ifireball> aram: on the most basic level you need 2 partitions, root and swap
[07:48] <fwaokda> anyone running AWN in 7.10 that can help me get it installed???
[07:49] <nny_1> lol so i am updating some packages from hardy's repos on a dapper box
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: what should be size for boot?
[07:49] <nny_1> this should be interesting
[07:49] <bazhang> fwaokda: if you dont get an answer here, you can always go to #awn
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: what should be the size for swap which is virtual mashine?
[07:49] <fwaokda> bazhang, :-/ already tried in awn got no answer there ha
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: virtual ram
[07:49] <ifireball> aram: unless you intend to use something weird such as LVM for root you don't need a separate /boot
[07:50] <macd> cylence, I hear ya.
[07:50] <cylence> macd: am I screwed? lol
[07:50] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:50] <aram> ifireball: ok for now if i want to install how many partition do i need to create ?
[07:50] <ifireball> aram: swap should be twice the size of your real RAM
[07:50] <compwiz18_> my computer is switching rapidly back and forth between charging the battery and not charging the battery (and the battery is about 10% charged) is that probably my computer's/hardware's fault, or gnome-power-manager's fault? if it helps, I can see if it does the same thing in Windows.
[07:50] <aram> ifireball: ok and what about other one which is root?
[07:51] <ngirard> Hi all, I need to print a number of booklets using my deskjet printer, but the prints get shifted. Do you know about a tool to help me get perfectly aligned prints ?
[07:51] <andy_> compwez18: it sounds like a hardware problem
[07:51] <aram> ifireball: because i know i should create /boot as well?
[07:51] <redd0t> tabman: how did it go
[07:52] <tabman> redd0t: I'm on linux right now
[07:52] <compwiz18_> aram: you need 2 partitions, one root, one swap. Swap should be about twice the amount of ram that you have. root should be at least 3gb for normal install
[07:52] <aram> ifireball: could you please send me instruction that i can read and understand that what should i do to install ubuntu
[07:52] <compwiz18_> andy_: yeah, sadly
[07:52] <redd0t> tabman: okay
[07:52] <CruX> hello all. how can i update nvidia drivers in ubuntu ? is there any repository for latest drivers ?
[07:52] <tabman> redd0t: xorgcfg opened up some utility, saying use the keyboard to navigate but pressing key doesn't do anything
[07:52] <andy_> compwiz18: i had a problem with my old laptop that was similar to that
[07:52] <macd> cylence, not if you like extra work ;P
[07:52] <CruX> i dont wanna use install program from nvidia
[07:52] <B> aram: for a simple installation  (specifily of your installing for the first time) you only need two partitions one for spap and the other for root
[07:52] <ifireball> aram: root will need about 6G, why do you think that you need /boot? you may also want to create a separate /home partition though so you can reinstall without losing your settings and data
[07:52] <redd0t> keyboard doesnt work in the menu?
[07:52] <hippychick> aram, just create swap at twice the size of your ram and root at any size but say a minimum of 5gb you do not need boot
[07:53] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX:look on the nvidia webiste...
[07:53] <cylence> haha, well, if it's between not having Apache 2.2 and extra work, I'm afraid I'm up for extra work, hah
[07:53] <compwiz18_> andy_: ok, thanks.
[07:53] <compwiz18_> !install | aram
[07:53] <ubotu> aram: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:53] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: there is no .deb archive
[07:53] <cylence> the problem is, I'm just not all that efficient with linux yet
[07:53] <ifireball> aram: a few ppl sent you a link to an install HOWTO before, look above
[07:53] <hippychick> aram, why not use auto it does this for you
[07:53] <cylence> macd: getting there, just not "efficient"
[07:53] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: oh..wait..let me see...
[07:53] <macd> cylence, canonical offers commercial support ;)
[07:53] <tabman> redd0t: it says use numeric keypad but cursor doesn't move with the numeric keys
[07:53] <cylence> hah, joy
[07:54] <bazhang> aram: there is lots of info for you to read--additionally, the ubuntu installer can guide through each step graphically
[07:54] <cylence> macd: point taken ;p
[07:54] <andy_> compwix18: my laptop powersuppily finally went kaput. so it sounds like time to back up all of your data and cross your fingers
[07:54] <redd0t> tabman: try using the regular arrows
[07:54] <cylence> macd: no worries, thanks for the help anyway
[07:54] <macd> cylence, hehe, just in a bind, nothing beats a commercial support option
[07:54] <tabman> redd0t: no nothing with the regular arrows
[07:54] <macd> but, what exactly are you trying todo, I was just skimming
[07:54] <cylence> macd: you are so very right.
[07:54] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:54] <Neronious> what is the name of the screen that shows the loading bar for Kubuntu?
[07:54] <aram> hippychick: because i want to learn it and start it from base
[07:54] <redd0t> tabman: is numlock on?
[07:54] <tabman> redd0t: yes its on
[07:54] <sivang> morning all
[07:54] <cylence> macd: I'm thinking I'll go lean on my web host for a little support in this
[07:55] <cylence> macd: see how far that gets me
[07:55] <aram> hippychick: i have already installed with automutic and just want to try manual
[07:55] <aram> ok
[07:55] <tabman> redd0t: i tried both ways, on & off
[07:55] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: yes youre right...sad...there is no readme at all...("File not found.")...
[07:55] <aram> and just for root
[07:55] <Chris|> Neronious that is the usplash
[07:55] <cylence> macd: but I do sincerely appreciate the help!
[07:55] <sivang> I have a problem with suspend, in stable gutsy (ubuntu 7.10) on a T43p machine that used to work nicely with the previous version of ubuntu
[07:55] <aram> which switch do i need to use ?
[07:55] <Neronious> chris|: thanks
[07:55] <sivang> anyone an idea what I should do to make it work ?
[07:55] <aram> or just /
[07:55] <Chris|> np dude
[07:55] <aram> or what?
[07:55] <macd> cylence, no worries, if you dont get anywhere, try again here, but I still didnt catch your exact issue
[07:55] <compwiz18_> aram: if this is your first time with Linux, it's probably best to learn how it works before worrying about how it is installed
[07:55] <redd0t> tabman: hmm.. idk.. that is really weird
[07:55] <chraso> >compwiz18< thinks u can help me on this
[07:55] <ifireball> cylence: this is really the kind of stuff the backport repo was meant for, include that "factor" in your web search...
[07:56] <cylence> macd: I'm simply trying to upgrade from apache 2.0 to 2.2
[07:56] <hippychick> just / for root
[07:56] <tabman> redd0t: the whole linux is weird :)
[07:56] <aram> compwiz18_: i have already installed and work with it for a week and want to go furthure
[07:56] <macd> cylence, is there a particular reason?
[07:56] <compwiz18_> aram: ok.
[07:56] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/HTML/chapter-03.html
[07:57] <aram> could any one help me with my isuue please
[07:57] <cylence> ifireball: thanks! that's really good to know. and to be honest, I'd not even heard the term "backport" until tonight from you, so I've got some researchin' to do lol
[07:57] <compwiz18_> andy_: right. I forgot about that if the powersupply dies...
[07:57] <kenboo> I removed 'tracker' package, and now logout icon takes 30sec to show logout dialog.
[07:57] <redd0t> tabman: haha. man i hate to do this, but its really late here. and i have to run some errands in the morning. i would tell you to use the forums online either at ubuntu forums, or elsewher
[07:58] <bazhang> aram: you have been given some links--are you finished reading them?
[07:58] <andy_> compwiz18_: you can allways take out the hardrive and hook it up to a desktop, but that is not any fun
[07:58] <aram> no
[07:58] <cylence> macd: yes, it's a Ruby on Rails server, and I'm trying to serve the apps using mongrel, which requires apache 2.1+
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: no
[07:58] <macd> cylence, oh man
[07:58] <tabman> redd0t: ok Thanks
[07:58] <macd> you hit the right person
[07:58] <macd> Im a rails dude.
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: do they explain every thing ?
[07:58] <bazhang> aram: you should read those links first, instead of repeating help here
[07:58] <compwiz18_> andy_: no, it isn't. I'll just go with backing up
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: ok sorry
[07:58] <compwiz18_> andy_: which I already do, so...
[07:59] <macd> cylence, we recently moved over to feisty server for apache2.2 using proxy balkancer to hit a cluster of mongrels on gutsy
[07:59] <tabman> redd0t: I disconnected the mouse, restarted xorgcfg, its responding to the keyboard now
[07:59] <macd> and feisty has been super reliable
[07:59] <redd0t> tabman: oh.. thats interesting.
[07:59] <ifireball> cylence: please tell me how it goes, when I faced similar problem I (did the cowardly thing and) simply upgraded do whole OS, however I do want to know if the LTS idea stands up to its reputation
[07:59] <aram> other quistion is how can i access teh file that i have shared in windows xp?
[07:59] <aram> from linux
[07:59] <andy_> compwiz18_: also to conserve your battery power on your notebook when you turn your notebook off, you should take out the battery and just plug in the power suppily when you are using it for extended periods plugged in
[07:59] <tabman> redd0t: now what :)
[08:00] <compwiz18_> andy_: been doing that. charging the battery and using the computer makes the screen flicker
[08:00] <redd0t> tabman: try running through the menus. and selecting everything.
[08:00] <cylence> ifireball: I'm starting to wonder that as well lol, but I will stop by and let you know if I find a solution to it :)
[08:00] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: The downloaded file is a self-extracting installer, and you may place it anywhere on your system.  - how can i uninstall this package ?
[08:00] <redd0t> tabman: http://www.x.org/wiki/ConfigurationHelp#head-3723efeee6f3e0f057d8a792bda330479eca1fcc
[08:00] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: i don't wanna mess up system with tons of files from nvidia
[08:00] <cylence> macd: I'm wondering if I won't just have to take a weekend to kill my server and upgrade the whole darned thing, taking my other sites down in the mean time
[08:00] <andy_> compwix18_: sounds good. what kind of laptop is it again?
[08:01] <macd> cylence, it wouldnt be a bad idea
[08:01] <cylence> macd: :/
[08:01] <macd> cylence, if the sites are important just grab a rails machine for a month, or something on media temple
[08:01] <cylence> macd: I'm starting to get that bad feeling that you might be right
[08:01] <aram> can any one please help how can i access the files that i have shared in windows xp?
[08:01] <macd> one month 20 bux and give you all the time you needed to migrate
[08:01] <B> cylence: should be able to do a distupgrade
[08:01] <andy_> compwiz18_: I am using a lenovo t60p and i am in love with it
[08:01] <cylence> macd: again, not a horrible idea
[08:01] <cylence> B: hmm?
[08:01] <macd> I'd rather do a fresh install for that myself
[08:02] <macd> cylence, I'm full of good ideas ;)
[08:02] <cylence> well, it *is* a fairly recently installed system
[08:02] <compwiz18_> andy_: no funny power supplies?
[08:02] <cylence> macd: haha, humble too!!
[08:02] <macd> hardy is getting a full rails stack on the server version b/c of me ;)
[08:02] <cylence> macd: oh, very nice!!
[08:02] <macd> yeah actually I am most of the time
[08:02] <macd> jyust had a rought week, have to pat myself on the back
[08:02] <aram> helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[08:02] <cylence> macd: lol
[08:02] <ifireball> cylence: like B said you can upgrade rather then reinstall, you'll have to upgrade to all the versions since LTS one by one though...
[08:02] <sivang> anyone an idea regarding laptop suspend ?
[08:02] <cylence> macd: sometimes ya just have to
[08:02] <B> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:03] <andy_> compwiz18_: I used to have a dell and it was a royal pain in the rear end. That was back in the day of the prescott core p4
[08:03] <cylence> ifireball: geesh. I'm wondering if it would not just be easier/faster to save my apache conf file and do that upgrade.
[08:03] <Eeyore-Jr> where do i set the domain name in ubuntu server?  hostname is set in /etc/hostname
[08:03] <macd> cylence, well apache is different in going from 2.0 to 2.2
[08:03] <cylence> it makes me cry just thinking about it
[08:03] <bazhang> !repeat | aram
[08:03] <ubotu> aram: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:03] <macd> its modular, and your configs will be different
[08:03] <compwiz18_> andy_: I've got a compaq v2000, starting to show some wear, I think. works great, except for the aforementioned problems
[08:04] <macd> cylence, I can point you to all the config info for the setup we run, apache2.2 + mongrel_cluster
[08:04] <Eeyore-Jr> !domainname
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domainname - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <B> cylence: make sure you backup the system though
[08:04] <macd> cylence, and the instructions, I wrote the doc, its not bad
[08:04] <ifireball> cylence: it may, YMMV...
[08:04] <cylence> macd: fair enough, I suppose I meant to keep what settings I have currently in the VirtualDirectory department, not to just drop it in place
[08:04] <cylence> B: *very* good point
[08:04] <aram> bazhang: how can accsess my file from linux which are shared in xp
[08:05] <macd> yeah, your vhosts change alot, but its still easy, just all split up into multiple files now rather than one big file
[08:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy aram
[08:05] <andy_> Compwiz18_: lenovo makes the best laptops. hands down. I found a site to get mine up to 40% off. www.laptopbroker.com
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: thanks a lot
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: bye for know
[08:05] <macd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RubyOnRailsStack  towards the bottom has the config files and mongrel scripts
[08:05] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: I am sry...i dont have more informations on this...my 8600 is not supported bey nVidia yet so...
[08:05] <ifireball> B: simply doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" will probably break the system... aptitude may work better, but back in LTS that was a bupmy ride in any case...
[08:05] <cylence> ifireball: I have no doubt
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: now
[08:05] <cylence> alright then, thanks as always guys!
[08:06] <compwiz18_> andy_: theres no way I'm getting a new one until this one doesn't start... so I have to hope it keeps chugging along
[08:06] <flake> why isn't my cd auto-mounting
[08:06] <B> ifireball: I'm only familar with 7.10, so I have no i dear how any other version works (what quirk may be in them versions)
[08:07] <bazhang> flake: audio cd?
[08:07] <ifireball> B: then please don't give this kind of tips...
[08:07] <flake> data dvd
[08:07] <flake> backed stuff off my old pc
[08:08] <andy_> compwiz_: I am going to put my old laptop parts in a tower so i can use them even if the laptop power suppily is bad. you might end up doing that
[08:08] <kaxi> i'm looking to do a minimal install of ubuntu - is there a version that is very tiny? i minimal install of debian ends up being about to 380mb. i'm looking for something smaller.
[08:08] <bazhang> !minimal
[08:08] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:08] <andy_> kaxie_: look at minix
[08:08] <bazhang> kaxi:  see above
[08:09] <keitherz> there was a minimal cd?!?
[08:09] <keitherz> i didn't know that
[08:09] <ifireball> hmm... was that too much of an insult?
[08:09] <andy_> kaxi_: you could also try DSL (damn small linux) that is 50 mb
[08:09] <MatthewV> I have a compro videomate u500 usb dvb-t tuner - i have the tuner all working great, but I am unable to get the included remote to work?
[08:09] <Memot> Can i run Ubuntu with Daemon tools? Oo
[08:10] <Myrtti> does anyone have any hints on how to set a Ubuntu server to permanently use other keyboard layout than it's configured currently? (the system doesn't have X in it)
[08:10] <Myrtti> I've tried almost evertything I've googled into
[08:10] <amoo> hello
[08:10] <kaxi> andy_ DSL is like 150mb installed. i also need something that is maintained.
[08:10] <Benalex> Memot, why??... you can mount any image you want from command line or GMOUNT
[08:10] <keitherz> DSL is 50 mb
[08:10] <keitherz> cd
[08:11] <keitherz> but
[08:11] <keitherz> everything is missing
[08:11] <andy_> kaxi_: are you looking for a system to run an ftp server on?
[08:11] <ifireball> Myrtti: you're trying to get keyboard layouts to work in the console?
[08:11] <ifireball> Myrtti: or over SSH from some putty/etc. window?
[08:12] <kaxi> andy_ yes. basically.
[08:12] <andy_> kaxi_: yellowdog linux (ppl help me out here) does anyone know how big this is?
[08:12] <Myrtti> ifireball: yep. I've added loadkeys just to be sure again on rc2, I've got the environment settings in .bash_profile... but still I need to do loadkeys again after login and to get them to work in nano I have to run kbd-config
[08:13] <flake> apparently this automounting of dvd is an issue, according to the forums, like a small bug
[08:13] <kaxi> andy_ yellowdog is for non-x86 systems. i'm looking for x86 distros.
[08:13] <andy_> kaxi_: well my professor runs a distro off of a floppy, it is headless though
[08:14] <Myrtti> they keep resetting, I'm not sure if the problem exists because it's runnin in vmware
[08:14] <ifireball> Myrtti: running loadkeys from .bash_profile doens't work for you?
[08:14] <kenboo> pls help me removing tracker.  it seems not possible to remove tracker without affecting nautilus
[08:15] <Myrtti> ifireball: well, in .bash_profile I don't have permissions to run them
[08:15] <Myrtti> ifireball: but I've got LANG and LC_ALL set there
[08:15] <flake> I mounted it using K3b
[08:16] <ifireball> Myrtti: well the LANG and LC_* variables influence how programs work they don't influence key afaik
[08:17] <tonyr1988> My desktop is connected through my Linksys router, and I wanna access it remotely. I have a DynDNS account, and my router can successfully update the DNS to the correct IP address. But....that just points to my "network" IP address, how do I access my desktop? (if that makes sense)
[08:17] <tonyr1988> My desktop's name is tony-desktop....do I use that somewhere?
[08:18] <bazhang> !info ssh
[08:18] <ubotu> ssh: secure shell client and server (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[08:18] <Benalex> What kind of access you mean? tonyr1988 ??
[08:18] <tonyr1988> Well, I have MythTV installed, so I mainly want to access MythWeb (it's just a site via the apache server)
[08:19] <jklock> tonyr-1988: its something nice you can call your computer when it is bad :)
[08:19] <tonyr1988> From my laptop, I can just go to 192.168.1.100/mythweb
[08:19] <tonyr1988> But, how can I access that from outside my network?
[08:19] <ifireball> Myrtti: do you have usplash (graphical boot) running on the system?
[08:20] <scguy318> tonyr1998: what is your question? just came here
[08:20] <Myrtti> ifireball: no
[08:20] <Benalex> tonyr1988: then you should do a port forward to your computer
[08:20] <tonyr1988> Benalex, Would that be through my router or my computer?
[08:20] <scguy318> tonyr1998: router
[08:20] <tonyr1988> scguy318: Thanks
[08:20] <andy_> kaxi_: sorry i was not able to be helpful, you could try googleing
[08:21] <ifireball> Myrtti: seems that /etc/init.d/keyboard-setup should be doing all the work for you, I'm looking into it
[08:21] <Benalex> tonyr1988: through your router... for instructions go www.portforward.com and select your router and follow instructions
[08:21] <kaxi> andy_ i'm investigating. i think i need something that has a reduce sized kernel
[08:21] <Thornsberr1> Can someone please help me install Java?
[08:22] <falieson> so um, I put the ubuntu install disc in - and I'm staring at a peach background
[08:22] <tonyr1988> Benalex: Ohhh.....so if I set up the port forward properly, and my network IP address is 70.178.xxx.xx, then I could do 70.178.xxx.xx:123 and access my desktop?
[08:22] <hobojohn3> what is the offtopic channel
[08:22] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: want a factoid link?
[08:22] <andy_> kaxi_: do you mind headless systems... without a GUI
[08:22] <Benalex> tonyr1988: PINGO!! :))
[08:22] <Perff> hi all
[08:22] <tonyr1988> Benalex: Awesome - thanks a ton!
[08:22] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well I tried going through what java.com said and it didn't install properly.
[08:22] <ifireball> Myrtti: have you tried changing /etc/default/console-setup ?
[08:22] <Perff> could someone help me with grub?
[08:22] <scguy318> falieson: wait a bit
[08:23] <Eyemean> hi, is there an easy way to convert flash files to avi or something? cheers
[08:23] <Myrtti> ifireball: yup
[08:23] <jklock> Perff: I will
[08:23] <scguy318> falieson: or is there no ongoing system activity?
[08:23] <scguy318> Eyeman: ffmpeg probably
[08:23] <bazhang> !java | Thornsberr1
[08:23] <ubotu> Thornsberr1: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:23] <ifireball> Myrtti: what did you put there?
[08:23] <hobojohn3> how do i find my network ip address?
[08:23] <kaxi> andy_ i actually need to install x on the system and a few other programs. in the end it'll have to be under 1gb with applications i need. the basic system though without x has to be less than 380mb.
[08:24] <falieson> scguy318: asked me about the clock, I said 'sure i'll chagne it' and it said ti couldn't configure clock right now... and now I still have this peach background
[08:24] <Perff> jklock: i can't find what to pass to root= (at kernel line) so it can boot. any parameter makes kernel panic. i tried update-grub. with removing one or two kopt lines.
[08:24] <Perff> my root is on /dev/sda10 and this line doesn't work also.
[08:24] <Eyemean> k cheers scguy318
[08:24] <hobojohn3> !offtopic
[08:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:24] <andy_> kaxi_: allright, i understand now
[08:24] <scguy318> falieson: interesting, mm, could you possibly check the integrity of your CD?
[08:24] <kaxi> andy_ i have figured out how to reduce the size of x. the kernel and modules seem to be taking up the largest portion of space on the basic base debian installs.
[08:25] <jklock> Perff: pastebin your menu.lst
[08:25] <Perff> jklock: not to mention that i tried to install ubuntu from livecd several times and it always failed to set up grub
[08:25] <falieson> scguy318: I verified it when I burned it
[08:25] <andy_> kaxi_: you are running it off of a pen drive then? www.pendrivelinux.com
[08:25] <falieson> scguy318: but I'll use the CD test
[08:25] <Myrtti> ifireball: let mee see...
[08:25] <scguy318> falieson: if the LiveCD is not working out for you see !install
[08:25] <scguy318> falieson: there are many other options besides the LiveCD
[08:25] <falieson> !install
[08:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:25] <ronnie> i have a server run on linux and use to be fileserver to support download  how can i limit the upload speed of it??
[08:25] <kaxi> andy_ not exactly. but it is safe to assume that same basic setup.
[08:26] <falieson> yeah... maybe I'll just do gentoo instead
[08:26] <falieson> I have had success with gentoo
[08:26] <Perff> jklock http://pastebin.com/m37d0f952
[08:26] <falieson> freind said i should try ubuntu
[08:26] <andy_> kaxi_: my bad. I am of no help
[08:26] <falieson> you guys tell me any particular advantaeg that I should keep trying this ubuntu jazz?
[08:26] <ifireball> Myrtti: also check of just running "setupcon -k" works instead of running "loadkeys"
[08:26] <scguy318> falieson: sure, try whatever suits you
[08:26] <scguy318> falieson: um, APT, comes with lots of hardware support out of box
[08:27] <bazhang> falieson: not really. this is a support channel
[08:27] <Chris|> falieson its secure, free, customizable, easy etc...
[08:27] <hobojohn3> how do i find my network ip address?
[08:27] <kaxi> andy_ that's ok- i appreciate any suggestions.
[08:27] <andy_> falieson_: it is more stable than windows, it is free, you actually learn things when you are using it...
[08:27] <fwaokda> how do i install the flash plugin for firefox?
[08:27] <scguy318> hobojohn3: ifconfig
[08:27] <falieson> thanks guys
[08:27] <falieson> um, i was trying to say advantage over gentoo
[08:27] <Chris|> ah
[08:27] <andy_> OH
[08:27] <Chris|> well its easier in my opinion
[08:28] <ifireball> falieson: essentially, I find that APT makes life easier then portage, though it may not be as flexible
[08:28] <Chris|> portage ick
[08:28] <scguy318> fwaokda: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173890
[08:28] <Chris|> i hated portage :<
[08:28] <ifireball> falieson: note that ubuntu is a binary distro rather then a source one
[08:28] <Ben_Cs> hello
[08:28] <Myrtti> ifireball: thanks, you helped me so much :-)
[08:28] <Ben_Cs> could it be that editing xorg.conf to add languages, when compiz is running, will crash the system?
[08:29] <ifireball> Myrtti: i did? how?
[08:29] <falieson> ifireball: yeah, that's so far been the selling point to me, not have to wait 8hours for kde
[08:29] <gorilla3d> Anyone know of any software I can use to sync my hard drive to my server via ftp?
[08:29] <Drixx> how do i install compiz ??
[08:29] <Eyemean> hi does anyone know if ffmpeg is a command line tool?
[08:29] <Myrtti> it was the /etc/default/console-setup
[08:29] <ifireball> falieson: that's why I switched as well ;)
[08:29] <Chris|> Drixx command: sudo apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[08:29] <ifireball> Myrtti: syntax error?
[08:29] <Perff> (08:26:15 AM) Perff: jklock http://pastebin.com/m37d0f952
[08:30] <Drixx> thnx dude
[08:30] <scguy318> Drixx: its sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:30] <Chris|> np and enable the desktop effects
[08:30] <Chris|> ah sorry :/
[08:30] <Neronious> ok on the usplash screen my monitor has a fit whenever it pops up saying it dosnt support the resolution settings on the usplash screen so i made a change on /boot/grub/menu.lst to the entry where it says "# defoptions=quiet splash" to "# defoptions=quiet splash vga=788" that is supposed to set the resolution to 800x600 my monitor still says it dosnt support the settings on the usplash screen any ideas? maybe the screen refresh rate b
[08:30] <fwaokda> scguy318,  umm can i not get it form apt-get in terminal some how?
[08:30] <ifireball> falieson: though in may case I was a long time Debian user by the time I tried Gentoo, so Ubuntu was natural for me...
[08:31] <Perff> anyone can help me to understand how to fill root= parameter in grub?
[08:32] <falieson> ifireball: I've used a lot of freebsd before I went to gentoo, I never figured out the debian isntall... but that was almost 8 years ago... I'm sure things have changed since then :-)
[08:32] <cesco> ciao
[08:32] <Drixx> Chris.. it says Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[08:32] <dgjones> !ccsm | Drixx
[08:32] <ubotu> Drixx: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:32] <ifireball> Perff: yeah, (0,0) = partition 1 on disk 1, (0,1) = partition 2 on disk 2, etc...
[08:33] <Perff> ifireball - i mean root= for kernel
[08:33] <Drixx> how to install compiz manager ?
[08:33] <Perff> ifireball: obvious variants like /dev/sda10 don't work
[08:33] <ifireball> falieson: if you're a BSD jokie, Ubuntu may just be too easy for you :P
[08:33] <NoorulIslaam> (0,1) is partition 2 on disk 1 not 2!
[08:33] <Chris|> Drixx for the easier way go to synaptic package manager and search for compiz then install the settings manager for compiz
[08:33] <linxeh> falieson: i never figured out the debian install either. ubuntu just works :o
[08:34] <Perff> linxeh: i would like ubuntu to just work, for me installer fails miserably
[08:34] <linxeh> falieson: but again, debians last visit here was like 7 years ago :) if you want a challenge try open-darwin
[08:34] <linxeh> Perff: did you use the alternate cd ?
[08:34] <bazhang> offtopic
[08:34] <Perff> linxeh: i used ordinary gutsy live cd
[08:35] <Drixx> thnx chris
[08:35] <ifireball> Perff: because /dev/XXX are files on root, they can't work before its mounted... I see that the current Ubuntu convention is to user UUID identifiers
[08:35] <falieson> I'm not looking for a challenge, heh - I'm setting up a home theater Pc
[08:35] <Eyemean> is there anythign else i can use to convert flash to avi apart from ffmpeg
[08:35] <Chris|> your welcome
[08:35] <Perff> ifireball: nice, nice, how can i find out those UUID?
[08:36] <ubnuut> blkid
[08:36] <dgjones> !uuid | Perff
[08:36] <ubotu> Perff: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:36] <ifireball> Perff: yeah, see ubotu
[08:37] <falieson> doing safe graphic install mode, why does it go to like 1650x1050 res? lol
[08:37] <Perff> hmmm it looks like UUID is correct
[08:37] <falieson> I'm at the peach screen of death again
[08:37] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I'm having a problem installing a program and I keep getting an error saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java5-jre"
[08:37] <ifireball> Perff: once you got the UUID you just put root=UUID=XXXXX in the menu.lst file
[08:37] <Perff> i will retry rebooting then
[08:37] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, any ideas as to what I could do to fix it?
[08:37] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: installed from the repos?
[08:37] <Perff> ifireball: i suspect that it is the same UUID for which I already failed to boot several times with kernel panic
[08:38] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, what is repos?
[08:38] <Perff> ok i'll try
[08:38] <bazhang> !repos
[08:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:38] <ifireball> Perff: then maybe its something else rather then it simply not finding the FS, what kind of FS is it, what kind of disk/partition ?
[08:39] <falieson> how long do I have to wait?
[08:39] <Drixx> from where to run compiz ??
[08:40] <Chris|> Drixx go to system > admin > enable desktop effects
[08:40] <Chris|> you might have to install the driver for your graphics card
[08:41] <kane77> what is the name of the program that can search and replace in multiple files at once? (it was kde program if I remember correctly)
[08:42] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I still can't get it to install.
[08:42] <Drixx> how do i get to compiz to change some settings ?
[08:42] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: where did you try to install it from? the repos?
[08:42] <clay3482> some please help me - I upgraded my Kernel on my desktop and now my system will not boot I have renamed the Boot/initrd to .old.bad and then named the .bak one to generic but it still hangs
[08:43] <Perffff> hi all
[08:43] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, When I download it it tries to install automatically and I get the error every time.
[08:43] <Perffff> my ubuntu grub problem persists
[08:43] <falieson> still waiting.. this is ridiculous
[08:43] <clay3482> Me 2 Perfff
[08:43] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: from where did you download it
[08:43] <Perffff> with UUID it says on boot: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[08:44] <Drixx> how do i open compiz ??
[08:44] <Perffff> ifireball
[08:44] <Perffff> ifireball uuid doesn't help :(
[08:44] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, from their website.
[08:44] <clay3482> is their anyway to install a previous version on top of this bad version? without having to format the whole drive?
[08:44] <Chris|> Drixx system > preferences > look in here
[08:45] <Drixx> okk
[08:45] <Moult> is there an experienced person here who can teach me compiling and stuff? i've read the online website but i'm not too sure about some things.
[08:45] <Moult> well, more of just guide me through the process of compiling from source
[08:45] <Perffff> anyone can help me with grub? .. :(
[08:46] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: and why not from the ubuntu software repositories? that would be the *recommended* method
[08:46] <macd> Moult, typically source programs have a README, INSTALL files that explain howto configure/compile that specific app
[08:46] <ubuntu> Hello
[08:46] <macd> Moult, but in general, ./configure && make && sudo make install
[08:46] <macd> within the source directory
[08:46] <kr00l> anyone know how to get Opera Web browser to play youtube videos?
[08:47] <ubuntu> I'm using a LiveCD right now, because I need to format and repartition my hard drive. Unfortunately, it seems that I can't back up some of my files in my home directory: It says that I don't have permission. How do I fix that?
[08:47] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, whenever I download it it opens with GDebi Package installer and I get the same error message every time.
[08:47] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I don't know how to install with the repositories, I haven't used Linux for more than a week.
[08:47] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: thus the reason to install from within ubuntu--this is not windows :}
[08:48] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I can tell.  I like it better so far, I think I just need to learn how to use it a little more.
[08:48] <Perffff> ah kernel panic kernel panic
[08:48] <Perffff> anyone?
[08:48] <falieson> so, guys - I changed my system clock and ubuntu loads fine
[08:48] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: you want to open up synaptic and then enable the first four repositories
[08:48] <falieson> doesn't that seem kinda wrong?
[08:48] <Perffff> jklock?
[08:48] <Perffff> ifireball?
[08:48] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I've done that already.
[08:48] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: then hit reload and then search for ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:48] <Moult> macd: yes but i am having some problems during the ./configure process
[08:49] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, give me a second to do that.
[08:49] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: no rush :}
[08:49] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright I found it.
[08:50] <Drixx> how do i give my desktop cube the transparent look ??
[08:50] <macd> Moult, such as? and is the program your trying to install available via synaptic/apt-get ? (please post your errors in pastebin)
[08:50] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, and mark it I assume?
[08:50] <Moult> macd: yes it is, but i want to learn how to install it manually
[08:50] <Perffff> it seems that one can wait for a help for ages here...
[08:51] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: that would be a safe assumption :}
[08:51] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, then apply the changes?
[08:51] <ifireball> Perffff: then maybe its something else rather then it simply not finding the FS, what kind of FS is it, what kind of disk/partition ?
[08:51] <macd> Moult, that a big waste of time, when its already built for the platform, by professionals.
[08:51] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: bingo!
[08:51] <Moult> macd: learning is never a waste of time.
[08:51] <Drixx> Chris: how do i get the transparent cube ??
[08:51] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, it's downloading now.
[08:52] <macd> Moult, but your configure errors are most likely due to missing/wrong versions of libs, so you'll need tonfind and install those
[08:52] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, then what will I do after it downloads?
[08:52] <Perffff> ifireball: it's ext3, disk SATA
[08:52] <macd> Moult, if you want to stick ./configures output on a pastbin I'll look@it
[08:52] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: when it comes to the java install, you will need to go to details and click ok on the user agreement
[08:52] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright.
[08:53] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: otherwise it will just hang
[08:53] <ifireball> Perffff: can you paste fdisk -l for me plz, also, what is the grub root set to?
[08:53] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I was trying to install it the way java.com told me to using the terminal and it wasn't working for some reason.
[08:54] <Moult> macd: http://pastebin.com/d495d8f33
[08:54] <Perffff> ifireball: ok after my livecd loads...
[08:54] <ifireball> Perffff: just paste menu.lst maybe?
[08:54] <Perffff> i pasted menu.lst 10 mins ago or so
[08:54] <Perffff> i can do it again surely
[08:54] <ifireball> Perffff: I guess the live cd sees the disk ok?
[08:54] <ifireball> Perffff: you got the link from 10 mins ago?
[08:54] <Perffff> ifireball: yes, livecd ok
[08:54] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: always avoid using outside sources when at all possible--the built in installers are loaded with everything you could possibly need
[08:55] <Perffff> ifireball: no, i haven't - no chat history
[08:55] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Alright, well that's good to know.  I'm just waiting for the marked changes to be applied now.
[08:55] <macd> Moult, looks like your missing ncurses, you can use apt-cache search ncurses to find that, then use sudo apt-get install packagename to install it
[08:55] <ifireball> Perffff: let me see if I can find it...
[08:56] <Cubexombi> is anyone familiar with a way to set up a ghetto wifi access point using a laptop, it's nearly 4 am, I'm stuck in my cubical for 4 more hours and wouldn't mind plaing some DS online..
[08:56] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: that way suspected cough spyware cough stuff doesnt get installed
[08:56] <Arelis> My experience with Arch Linux so far hasn't been pleasant. How can i install an Ubuntu system that
[08:56] <Arelis>                           isn't as heavyweight as the default one? Faster, but still everything works, and maybe GNOME too?
[08:56] <falieson> do I need internet to install ubuntu?
[08:56] <falieson> I can't find my lan cable
[08:56] <fwaokda> im trying to install flash plugin for firefox on ubuntu but its not working can someone help me?
[08:56] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well then maybe you could help me find a program.  With Windows, I used to use LimeWire.  Is there anything that might be better for Linux that I could use?
[08:57] <Perfff2> ifireball: fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/d2ad4fc0d
[08:57] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: frostwire
[08:57] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I think I've heard of that.  Just frostwire.com?
[08:57] <bazhang> !info frostwire | Thornsberr1
[08:57] <ubotu> thornsberr1: Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[08:57] <bazhang> huh?
[08:57] <Perfff2> ifireball: menu.lst http://pastebin.com/mad381e3
[08:58] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: ignore the bot--frostwire
[08:58] <fwaokda> bazhang you have flash installed on ubuntu?  i installed my through firefox but then when i went to the page it still acted like it wasn't installed
[08:58] <user11_011> can i connect to cdrom of a remote machine and install ubuntu from there
[08:58] <fwaokda> i tried to install again but said it was already installed
[08:58] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Alright, I'm downloading it now.  I knew there had to be something better.
[08:58] <user11_011> can i connect to cdrom of a remote machine and install ubuntu from there on my machine
[08:58] <Moult> mcad: nope not working can you join #moult?
[08:58] <bazhang> fwaokda: why through firefox--should be through the software repositories
[08:59] <damike> hi
[08:59] <Moult> macd: nope not working can you join #moult ?
[08:59] <Perfff2> ifireball: how do i get list of uuids?
[08:59] <ifireball> Perfff2: wtf? you don't have an "initrd" line, is it your own kernel?
[08:59] <viking09> Anyone guru on WiFi PCMCIA cards? I have checked drivers, the card identifies the WiFi router, but I can not get it to connect :/
[08:59] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: whatever windows has, with the exception of photoshop and CAD stuff, Ubuntu has in spades
[08:59] <Perfff1> ifireball: just usual gutsy installation
[08:59] <damike> yesterday i played with samba on 7.10. now my name is away. my first and last name are deleted and now everywhere "No value has been set" is displayed. where can i set the name again?
[08:59] <Perfff1> ifireball: where can i get initrd line?
[09:00] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Yeah I'm noticing that.  How would I install Flash through the repositories?  I don't think I've done that yet either.
[09:00] <macd> Moult, yeah
[09:00] <ifireball> Perfff1: add "initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic" in menu.lst under the "kernel" line
[09:01] <ifireball> Perfff1: make sure you have that file there though
[09:01] <fwaokda> bazhang, i did it through terminal too but it does alot of stuff then says, Flash Plugin NOT installed
[09:01] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: I believe it is called flashplugin-nonfree; you need to enable the partner (canonical) repos for that I believe
[09:01] <fwaokda> bazhang, something about a md5sum mismatch
[09:01] <Perfff1> ifireball: no such file, only /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak there
[09:01] <bazhang> fwaokda: were you running firefox at the time?
[09:01] <TNDT> hey, im following a guide for configuring lm-sensors, and it says to run a sh in the lm-sensors source, how can i figure out where that is?
[09:01] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, I found the flashplugin-nonfree.
[09:01] <Perfff1> ifireball: but with .bak it looks like it works!!!! OMG
[09:01] <bazhang> fwaokda: oh that--that is a bug on adobe's part--should be fixed shortly
[09:02] <fwaokda> :(
[09:02] <Perfff1> ifireball: I spent like 6 hours of my life on this stupid thing... why wasn't it there from the start?
[09:02] <fwaokda> bazhang, how do i get it b4 they fix it?
[09:02] <ifireball> Perfff1: crappy.... for some reason it failed generating the initrd image on install....
[09:02] <Cubexombi> fwaokda: I've got the .deb sitting around here
[09:02] <Perfff1> ifireball: why is it .bak? is it bad or so? should i use it?
[09:02] <bazhang> fwaokda: before or after? best to wait a bit for the fix
[09:02] <fwaokda> oooh can you hook me up with it plz
[09:03] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, I got it.  Thanks again.
[09:03] <ifireball> Perfff1: the .bak is probably a generic file, it should generate a file specific to your system on the fly
[09:03] <Cubexombi> lemme know if you're getting that?
[09:03] <user11_011> can i connect to cdrom of a remote machine and install ubuntu from there on my machine
[09:03] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, not working is it something im doing wrong?
[09:03] <Perfff1> ifireball: how can i do it?
[09:03] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: come back when other issues arise--well be here :}
[09:04] <Perfff1> ifireball: i successfully booted into my system
[09:04] <Cubexombi> fwaokda: could be my connection here ..
[09:04] <ifireball> Perfff1: if its a new install you'll probably get a new kernel on the next update, so it should sort things out (make a new initrd/etc.)
[09:04] <fwaokda> try again
[09:04] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well I've found this chatroom to be the most helpful out of anything I've read online.
[09:04] <Perfff1> ifireball: ok i'll try
[09:04] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: thus the advantage of Ubuntu :}
[09:05] <ifireball> Perfff1: you can generate initrd by hand, but its just hard work, and like I said, next kernel upgrade should sort that
[09:05] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, still not working... where did you get this from?
[09:05] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Yeah, it's much more effective.  I remember when I tried getting all my music on Windows to show up on my 360 it took me hours of time on the phone only for them to tell me they didn't know why it wouldn't work.
[09:05] <Cubexombi> fwaokda: could e-mail it if you need, it's a patch, I'll see if I can't find where i got it from for you
[09:06] <fwaokda> k thnks
[09:06] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: come for the help, stay for the ambience haha
[09:07] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, haha
[09:07] <bazhang> :}
[09:07] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Ubuntu doesn't seem too difficult to use it's just still all foreign to me.
[09:08] <thyrax_afk> can some one please help me identify this window system???? http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7539/newgraysmv4lw1.png
[09:08] <minus_> Hi there, is it possible to scroll in a TTY? How do I do that then?
[09:08] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: wait til wireless though; if you have a poorly supported card that is--the one big weak point of linux
[09:09] <Cubexombi> fwaokda: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 Look for the blue text.. you'll see the download link
[09:09] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, found it here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 but seems i need to register yeah?
[09:09] <Cubexombi> oh.. I'm registered.. that would be why
[09:09] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I'm using my wireless card right now and it said it's not supported but I haven't run into a problem with it yet.
[09:10] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: well that is nice then :}
[09:10] <Cubexombi> fwaokda: I'll get it to you in a sec
[09:10] <TNDT> hey, im following a guide for configuring lm-sensors, and it says to "run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source", how can i figure out where that file should be?
[09:10] <fwaokda> i just registered
[09:10] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, that's the same thing I said.  I don't care if it is supported or not as long as it is working as it should be; which it is.
[09:10] <bazhang> sweet
[09:10] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, ty though you've been a big help!
[09:11] <thyrax_afk> what desktop is this http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7539/newgraysmv4lw1.png
[09:11] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Alright, I have another question if you don't mind.
[09:11] <Cubexombi> hey no sweat.. it's either this Or I play with my DS
[09:11] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: shoot!
[09:11] <linxeh> Thornsberr1: fluxbox ?
[09:12] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I installed frostwire and it's running and working fine without a problem.  But whenever I go to the applications and to click on the program instead of the frostwire icon next to the name it just has a blank window.
[09:12] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, is there any way that I could change that little icon to show the frostwire icon?
[09:12] <thyrax> linxeh you mean me?
[09:12] <linxeh> Thornsberr1: but seriously, it looks like what we were using in the early 90's, or before maybe
[09:12] <linxeh> thyrax: yes
[09:12] <linxeh> sorry
[09:12] <linxeh> blurry eyed :)
[09:12] <thyrax> lol
[09:12] <thyrax> is it fluxbox I wouldn't know have never used it
[09:12] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, haha nice well it works now! :D
[09:13] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: not sure there--perhaps some other folks could step in? sorry... :}
[09:13] <thyrax> can fluxbox run on ubuntu?
[09:13] <bazhang> thyrax: yes
[09:13] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright, it's not that big of a deal I was just wondering.
 the patch did it for ya? good...
[09:13] <thyrax> is it hard to install I have only ever run gnome i tried xubuntu and xfce but went back to gnome
[09:13] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, what you playing on ds?
[09:14] <bazhang> thyrax: not hard to install; somewhat more difficult than gnome to configure though
[09:14] <thyrax> If I do a full install of gutsy 7.10 can I go back and install fluxbox over it or am I better off starting from scratch or installing flux box over ubuntu server or mini iso install
[09:14] <fwaokda> Cubexombi, i had a m3lite but it keeps losing my saves so i quit using it... bummed me out when i lost my Dragon Quest Slime saves :(
[09:14] <Cubexombi> Current;y .. just about everything, trying to get my Laptop working as an AP though (have an R4DS)
[09:15] <ifireball> thyrax: you can add it to an existing install
[09:15] <SPOPPO> Hello
[09:15] <unixslut> hey
[09:15] <skullhead> Dos any one have a solution yet for the no sound in firefox when you watch videos like on youtube?
[09:16] <thyrax> ok then I guess ill look into it. I like the clean interface. thanks guys!
[09:16] <ifireball> skullhead: do you have sound on other apps like totem or rythmbox?
[09:17] <skullhead> ya all my media players work
[09:18] <fwaokda> skullhead, i just got a patch for flash plugin have you gotten it?
[09:18] <Cubexombi> skullhead http://sendderek.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/how-to-fix-the-no-sound-issue-in-firefox-flash/
[09:18] <fwaokda> nvm cubexombi got ya :)
[09:18] <skullhead> thx guys
[09:19] <skullhead> do i have to restart firefox after the package is installed?
[09:19] <skullhead> ok nvm ya i have this allready
[09:20] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I got it.
[09:20] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: great news!
[09:20] <Cubexombi> anyone know the Q&D way to set up a laptop as a wifi AP?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> was wine updated in the new release? ever since I upgraded it crashes a lot more often
[09:21] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, just a matter of going to system > preferences > main menu and then changing the icon to whatever you want it to be.
[09:21] <fwaokda> whats up with all this ron paul stuff
[09:21] <Cubexombi> skullhead, didn't work?
[09:21] <fwaokda> my mother told me never to trust a person with two first names
[09:21] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I had to download a small picture of the icon but that's not much.
[09:21] <skullhead> nope
[09:21] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: good to know, thanks!
[09:22] <skullhead> im looking at wat i should have my mixer set to
[09:22] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, I know that question was a little unusual but at least if anyone asks it again you'll have the answer.
[09:22] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: you have already begun to give back to the community. Cheers!
[09:23] <kxfen> hi
[09:23] <kxfen> guys
[09:23] <fwaokda> anyone here know of a way i can fix a windows xp partition on my computer through linux? its missing the boot.ini file but i dont have a xp cd around to do a recovery console
[09:23] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well I'll try as much as I can.  I helped one of my friends by telling him how to fix the backspace button on Firefox.
[09:23] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, that annoyed me for a while.
[09:23] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: nice work!
[09:24] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Oh, I have another question while I'm thinking of it if you don't mind.
[09:24] <ifireball> fwaokda: you might be able with ntfs3g, I didn't try it though
[09:24] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: ok..last one though--you are at your limit already :}
[09:24] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, what is the Linux equivalent to the windows command prompt ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew?
[09:24] <fwaokda> whats ntfs3g?
[09:25] <ifireball> fwaokda: and you'll need to get the boot.ini file from somewhere
[09:25] <fwaokda> oh well thats my problem... i dont have the file it somehow disappeared
[09:25] <ifireball> fwaokda: its a linux module to allow reading/writing of NTFS filesystems
[09:25] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: in the terminal ifconfig? is that what you mean? to check the devices? or something else
[09:26] <skullhead> no that dident work cube
[09:27] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well I got that but from what I know, which is very little, ipconfig /release would release the IP address that you'd have and then /renew would get another one.  Kind of like repairing the connection.  I'd have to do that every now and again with my old ISP cause sometimes it'd just stop working and that'd be the only thing that would fix it.
[09:27] <TNDT> hey, im following a guide for configuring lm-sensors, and it says to "run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source", how can i figure out where that file should be?
[09:27] <bazhang> ifup ifdown though I'm just guessing at this point Thornsberr1 would have to google for it :}
[09:28] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, alright.  I'll do that sometime.
[09:28] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: cheers!
[09:28] <ifireball> fwaokda: well, it might be possible to replace it with something from linux (for example ntldr can be replaced with grub) but I don't know what that file does so can't help you there
[09:28] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Where are you from to always be on at this time?  UK?
[09:28] <staykovmarin> hi, what is the package name for the graphical dialer?
[09:29] <skullhead> ya my sound in firefox still isent working after that fix
[09:29] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: offtopic but TW; you should join #ubuntu-offtopic :}
[09:29] <Pelchflum> Could someone please help a newbie set up usb wifi adapter?
[09:29] <Pelchflum> I've tried the documentation and the advice in the forums, but to no avail.
[09:30] <ifireball> skullhead: what DE are you using?
[09:30] <Pelchflum> The prism2_usb driver should work for it, but it doesn't.
[09:30] <Pelchflum> At least, what I've done hasn't worked.
[09:30] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Maybe sometime.  But I'm headed off for now.  Thanks again for the help and I'm sure I'll be back sooner rather than later.
[09:31] <bazhang> see you later Thornsberr1; it's been a pleasure :}
[09:31] <skullhead> sorry still a little new wats DE?
[09:31] <ifireball> skule: desktop environment, e.g. Gnome or KDE
[09:31] <skullhead> gnome
[09:32] <ifireball> what ubuntu version?
[09:32] <skullhead> 7.10
[09:35] <vb> how can I get notified about mail , when thunderbird is not running ?
[09:36] <ifireball> vb: you can install gnubiff
[09:36] <ifireball> vb: then add it to your gnome panel
[09:36] <skounis> hello, i'm new to ubuntu and i have a problem with my nvidia 8500gt card and its driver
[09:37] <vb> I installed mail-notification , but the icon is clumsy, it works though, but clicking the icons opens Evolution, WTF !
[09:38] <skullhead> so is that fix spos to work with 7.10?
[09:39] <ifireball> skullhead: try to see if you can get the sound to work if you don't run any other media player
[09:39] <ogre> !screenlets
[09:39] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[09:40] <ifireball> skullhead: also check if you have "esd" running "ps -ef | grep -i esd" should return just one line
[09:40] <ICEcoffee> has anyone successfully installed virtualbox with win2k?
[09:41] <ifireball> skullhead: I don't really know what that "fix" does, I'd be careful not to use "fixes" like that
[09:41] <ifireball> ICEcoffee: I have it running XP
[09:42] <ICEcoffee> did you get any errors loading OS?
[09:42] <skullhead> ok
[09:42] <ifireball> ICEcoffee: unless you mean to have VB run _inside_ w2k...
[09:42] <ifireball> ICEcoffee: nope, it "just worked"....
[09:42] <vb> why do you want to run me
[09:43] <ICEcoffee> ifireball: did you download virtualbox from repos?
[09:43] <ifireball> vb: meant VirtualBox, sorry
[09:43] <ifireball> ICEcoffee: yep
[09:44] <ICEcoffee> ifireball: thanks, I'll try again
[09:44] <skounis> can someone plz help me?
[09:44] <ICEcoffee> skounis: what's the problem?
[09:45] <skounis> i can't make the driver to work for my nvidia 8500 gt card
[09:46] <skounis> my screen turns black every time after i install the driver
[09:46] <Wh1rlw1nd> Hi all. Can somebody tell what is generating a file called core in the homedirs of the users???
[09:47] <skounis> i tried glx and glx_new
[09:47] <mavi-> Wh1rlw1nd: thats like a bug-report-file
[09:47] <kane77> is there any tool I can use to replace the html &eacute; characters with proper characters?
[09:47] <skounis> i tried both dvi and analog
[09:47] <mavi-> Wh1rlw1nd: when something crash it generates a core
[09:47] <Wh1rlw1nd> mavi- it is 33 MB
[09:47] <mavi-> Wh1rlw1nd: its machine-readable and contains a memory dump and stuff
[09:47] <Wh1rlw1nd> and is only stings
[09:47] <ifireball> Wh1rlw1nd: type "file core" and find out
[09:48] <ToastGuy> Hey guys
[09:48] <Wh1rlw1nd> ifireball : core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style  This is the output
[09:48] <tom17bombadil> i have trouble watching videos on gutsy
[09:48] <ToastGuy> Is there any alternative to iTunes for ubuntu
[09:48] <ToastGuy> ??
[09:48] <tom17bombadil> seems to be a common problem
[09:48] <ifireball> Wh1rlw1nd: "core" files are generated when apps crash, they are basically memory dumps of the apps at crash-time
[09:48] <ToastGuy> I need to sync my iPod to ubuntu
[09:49] <theelbermungster> ToastGuy , Songbird is a pretty good alternative.
[09:49] <mavi-> ToastGuy: the default media player can do that
[09:49] <Wh1rlw1nd> so I can delete it, before I backup, ifireball right
[09:49] <xmas> join
[09:49] <mavi-> sure
[09:49] <tom17bombadil> as i found quite a lot other people having the same prob in forums
[09:49] <rudihawk> toastguy - rythem box is able to sync with your ipod
[09:49] <ToastGuy> on ubuntu?
[09:49] <mavi-> Wh1rlw1nd: delete ahead, nothing can go wrong from it =)
[09:49] <rudihawk> (which is the default player)
[09:49] <ifireball> Wh1rlw1nd: yeah
[09:49] <tom17bombadil> is there any known workaround?
[09:49] <Wh1rlw1nd> ;) thanks mavi- ifireball
[09:49] <rudihawk> toastguy, yes ubuntu
[09:50] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: thanks
[09:50] <ToastGuy> iPod Touch?
[09:50] <theelbermungster> can someone remind me how to execute BASH instead of GNOME at startup?
[09:50] <ToastGuy> I'm sure it's using the same protocols
[09:50] <skounis> so, someone, plz?
[09:50] <rudihawk> have you tried using rythem box and your ipod?
[09:51] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, Could I get one more quick question in before the night is done with?
[09:51] <daniele> there's somone italian
[09:51] <daniele> is there someone italian?
[09:51] <rudihawk> toastguy - have u enable the portable played - "ipod" plugin
[09:51] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: i didn't know it existed before you told me
[09:51] <ToastGuy> rudihawk:  ok
[09:52] <ifireball> theelbermungster: they are not interchangeable, gnome is a graphical environment, bash is a textual shell...
[09:52] <rudihawk> *player
[09:52] <ifireball> theelbermungster: do you want your system to not load the graphical environment?
[09:52] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: how does the sharing work?
[09:52] <theelbermungster> yes, I need to run e2defrag.
[09:52] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: does it share the same way iTunes shares?
[09:53] <ifireball> theelbermungster: oh so you want to do this just one time?
[09:53] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: unfortunately I'm still stuck with some windows machines
[09:53] <rudihawk> toastguy, do you mean when you would like to transfer music your ipod?
[09:53] <theelbermungster> yes ifireball
[09:53] <rudihawk> toastguy,oh, do you mean like over a network?
[09:53] <ToastGuy> ya
[09:54] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: like you would normally be able to do from iTunes app
[09:54] <ifireball> theelbermungster: just reboot, press [ESC] when it tells you to get the Grub menu and select the 2nd line (recovery mode)
[09:54] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: i'm just asking
[09:54] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: I can test it out of course
[09:54] <Tova> ciao
[09:55] <Tova> !list
[09:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:55] <rudihawk> toastguy, I wouldnt really know about syncing it, i dont have an ipod :P
[09:55] <rudihawk> sorry man
[09:55] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: okay here's another stupid question...
[09:56] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: is there anyway to view files over the network on a windows machine?
[09:56] <rudihawk> toastguy, - there are no stupid questions
[09:56] <ToastGuy> lol
[09:56] <rudihawk> toastguy - yea!
[09:56] <ulaas> hi! anybody on intel imac with ubuntu?
[09:56] <ToastGuy> oh really
[09:56] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: how so?
[09:56] <ToastGuy> \\mywindowscomputer\mydir\
[09:56] <rudihawk> toastguy there is: system>administration>shared folders
[09:57] <rudihawk> you will have to install samba
[09:57] <rudihawk> and then you should be able to browse your windows network as per normal
[09:57] <ToastGuy> samba is a windows app?
[09:57] <theelbermungster> thanks, ifireball.
[09:58] <rudihawk> toastguy - just let me check
[09:58] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: I see what your talking about now
[09:58] <simimi> I just installed 7.10 on a friend's notebook for her, and we have a no sound issue. I added noacpi to the boot line of the kernel and nothing, tried booting with no power (the normal fixes) and still no sound. Alternative ideas anyone?
[09:59] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: it's asking me to install "Samba to share folders with Windows/Linux systems"
[09:59] <davf> Anyone know of a way to delete all unneeded library packages?
[09:59] <simimi> davf, sudo apt-get autoremove or sudo apt-get autoclean maybe?
[09:59] <ToastGuy> < Installing Samba now
[10:00] <rudihawk> toastguy - thats what you would like it to do
[10:00] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: cool
[10:01] <thyrax> is this also fluxbox? http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8923/20070303moparxgf3.png
[10:01] <davf> did that but I still find that I can manually choose library packages for removal and they don't show dependencies in synaptic
[10:01] <davf> simimi ^
[10:01] <davf> deborphan doesn't show them either.
[10:02] <simimi> davf, then I am not sure after that... perhaps they are not completely independent?
[10:02] <rudihawk> toastguy - do you want to browse the windows folders from your linux computer, or the other way around?
[10:02] <gluonman> Question: I have a Logitech Quickcam Express that works just fine in camorama and xawtv, etc. I can test it using any program and it runs smoothly. However, when I begin to broadcast my cam on my Yahoo! account using Kopete it freezes the moment it is being viewed. What can I do to fix this?
[10:03] <baya> does anyone know what it's called if you click down on the mouse wheel in firefox, and you can scroll the page by moving the mouse up and down?
[10:03] <wotamuckinfuddle> hi all, im trying to get into the yahoo.com chat im getting " an external application must be launched to handle ymsgr: links. requested link: ymsgr:chat? Application: purple-url-handler "%s"  i click on launch application and nothing happens, any ideas anyone?
[10:03] <davf> simimi, when I click on them for complete removal they don't show dependent files to be also deleted.
[10:03] <vasilisa> Hey guys, this .thumbnails folder is EATING my hard drive
[10:03] <vasilisa> how can i tone it down?
[10:03] <skounis> plz, help :-(
[10:03] <davf> simimi no big deal anyway. just wondering.
[10:03] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: I want to see the MUSIC files on my windows machine
[10:04] <davf> I've been having problems with vlc and audacity the past two days and I'm just trying to figure out what might be the problem.
[10:04] <thyrax> is this fluxbox? http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8923/20070303moparxgf3.png
[10:04] <rudihawk> toastguy - ok i understand, well samba should work nicely in that case :)
[10:04] <ifireball> vasilisa: d/l less images? :P
[10:04] <simimi> How can I see what sound card is on a system, lspci ?something
[10:05] <vasilisa> ifireball: c.c
[10:05] <rudihawk> toastguy - you can then go to places>network, and see if you can see your folder then
[10:05] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: Okay I'm confused... how do I browse that machine. I don't see anywhere to enter my Windows Network address
[10:05] <gluonman> Did anyone read my question? I'm having difficulty with my webcam freezing as soon as I broadcast it on Kopete. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about it.
[10:05] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: you read my mind
[10:05] <ifireball> simimi: yeah. lspci will give you a hint
[10:05] <rudihawk> toastguy - let me know if that works....
[10:05] <davf> none of the filters are working in audacity and the preview starts before the popup that says previewing and it says the equaliser filters are missing.
[10:05] <rudihawk> toastguy - haha, ;)
[10:06] <simimi> gluonman, normally if you have a question, people will jump on it, but some questions may be outside our current expertise, so ask a bit later
[10:06] <soho> after last update my sd-cards are not mountet automatically anymore. how can i repair this?
[10:06] <simimi> ahh... got it, many thanks!!
[10:06] <ifireball> vasilisa: but really, unfortunately I don't currently know of a feature to limit it
[10:06] <gluonman> simimi, I figured as much. But with no one saying anything it's hard to know if I'm being ignored or asking a question to which no one knows the answer.
[10:07] <ifireball> vasilisa: you can delete it from time to time though and it'll get recreated (hopefully smaller)
[10:07] <soho> has somebody an idea about that?
[10:08] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: I don't have a decoder?
[10:08] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: okay, I see the files now
[10:08] <ifireball> ToastGuy: you can either select "Connect to Server" from the places menu or type ctrl+L in nautilus and type smb://SERVER/share
[10:08] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: now what about getting this to show
[10:08] <simimi> soho, when you boot into grub, try going into the recover mode and see what happened, or look through your log to see what was installed and see if anything was changed. Also, check fstab just incase
[10:09] <thyrax> Can this desktop be installed on ubuntu? can anyone identify it? http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8923/20070303moparxgf3.png
[10:09] <rudihawk> toastguy - how do u mean?
[10:10] <soho> simimi; i know what it is. it is caused by the latest update of image and headers. but  a downgrade didn't repair the problem. sd-cards gets not mounted anymore
[10:10] <soho> any idea about that?
[10:10] <simimi> thyrax, yes, Openbox, sudo apt-get install openbox menu obconf
[10:10] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: Okay, I'm looking at my files on the windows server. Now I need to be able to view them using the Music Player.
[10:10] <ifireball> thyrax: its says it right in the picture, its openbox
[10:10] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: like import the list
[10:11] <thyrax> lol I had never heard of open box so I wasn't sure :)
[10:11] <thyrax> thanks guys
[10:11]  * thyrax is a linux noob
[10:11] <rudihawk> toastguy - ok, go to your rythm box
[10:11] <CroX> Anyone here know how to get the videos of stage6.com (not porn..) to work?
[10:11] <ToastGuy> rudihawk:  ok
[10:11] <rudihawk>  edit>plugins
[10:12] <rudihawk> toastguy DAAP music sharing
[10:12] <ifireball> thyrax: it'll probably take alot of work to get your desktop to look like that, screenshots are misleading
[10:12] <rudihawk> toastguy - then click configure
[10:12] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: i don't see plugins under EDIT
[10:12] <ifireball> thyrax: also note how there are no graphical apps in the screenshot....
[10:12] <ToastGuy> Preferences?
[10:12] <simimi> thyrax, no worries I was a noob too and asked the same question once. Questions breed answers, share the wealth and all that
[10:13] <thyrax> ^_^
[10:13] <rudihawk> toastguy - plugins should be right above preferences
[10:14] <ToastGuy> Not on my version... I'm running an older version of ubuntu
[10:14] <thyrax> ifireball: I wish I could get gnome to look like that
[10:14] <ToastGuy> rudihawk:  Rythmbox 0.9.3.1
[10:15] <soho> how to mount sd-cards manually?
[10:15] <ifireball> thyrax: you can, with some smart wallpapers and color settings
[10:15] <thyrax> I managed to set up 2TB(formatted) software raid 5 server so now I want to focus on making the desktop as clean as I can :) maybe have an embedded terminal as well
[10:15] <rudihawk> toastguy, oh all right i see now. Well i am also still very much a linux noob, maybe ask someone with more expertise, sorry man. :|
[10:15] <ifireball> thyrax: this is what all those screenshots are, some bored guy with too much time to play with themes...
[10:16] <thyrax> ifireball: any suggestions? can I download addettional themese for gnome?
[10:16] <thyrax> lol
[10:16] <ifireball> thyrax: try gnome-look.org
[10:16] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: thanks for getting me this far
[10:16] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: what is a linux noob?
[10:16] <Marlon_> I have a hp paviion tx1320  but the wireless doestn't work :(
[10:17] <Marlon_> some can help me ??
[10:17] <rudihawk> toastguy - someone that is still new to the OS
[10:17] <ToastGuy> ah
[10:17] <rudihawk> yea, so good luck!
[10:17] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: haha, thanks
[10:17] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: you've been a ton of help
[10:17] <rudihawk> toastguy, no problem.
[10:18] <Marlon_> this wireles doesn't work    broadcom 4321AG 802.11 a/b/g draft-n Wi-Fi Adapter
[10:18] <Marlon_> whit ubuntu 64
[10:18] <ifireball> thyrax: fastest way do get a desktop like that though -> ctrl+alt+f1 :P
[10:18] <thyrax> is it possible to install xubuntu with a kubuntu installation disk? Besides the desktop and file system are there any fundamental differences? I hear xubuntu is good for systems with out many resources
[10:18] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: where is ZA?
[10:19] <rudihawk> toastguy - south africa =]
[10:19] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: you're in south africa?
[10:19] <thyrax> ifireball what does that do (ctrl)alt+f1)
[10:19] <rudihawk> toastguy, i am in indeed, where are you?
[10:19] <ToastGuy> crazy
[10:19] <skullhead> hopw do you get in root access in terminal agian sorry dumb question?
[10:20] <ToastGuy> California
[10:20] <ToastGuy> U.S.A
[10:20] <rudihawk> toastguy lol - why crazy?
[10:20] <Marlon_> broadcom 4321AG doesn't work in HP Paviion tx1320us  help!!!!!
[10:20] <ifireball> thyrax: switch the system to text mode (ctrl_alt_f7/8) returns to graphics
[10:20] <NeT_DeMoN_> question, what commands would show me my DNS files??
[10:20] <Marlon_> CA me too
[10:20] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: You could be just down the street...  I wouldn't know.
[10:20] <ifireball> !virtual
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <thyrax> cool I'll write that down
[10:20] <ToastGuy> Marlon_: Go Arnold!
[10:20] <ifireball> !tty
[10:20] <ubotu> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[10:21] <Marlon_> Go Arnold XD
[10:21] <ifireball> !tty | thyko
[10:21] <ubotu> thyko: please see above
[10:21] <ifireball> !tty | thyrax
[10:21] <ubotu> thyrax: please see above
[10:21] <ToastGuy> lol
[10:21] <ifireball> ugh, too much tabbing....
[10:21] <ToastGuy> We have the Terminator as our governor
[10:21] <skullhead> dos any one know the command in terminal for root?
[10:21] <ifireball> skullhead: sudo?
[10:21] <NeT_DeMoN_> anyone???
[10:22] <thyrax> nice. thanks for that ifireball
[10:22] <Marlon_> sudo skullhead
[10:22] <skullhead> ok thx
[10:22] <rudihawk> toastguy - haha, old arnie, "ill be back"
[10:22] <Busybyeski> hi there everyone
[10:22] <Marlon_> hi
[10:22] <ToastGuy> that's the guy...
[10:22] <ifireball> NeT_DeMoN_: I'm not sure what you mean by "dns files"
[10:22] <ToastGuy> he runs California
[10:22] <Busybyeski> i have a pretty important question in my mind
[10:22] <Marlon_> shot
[10:22] <Marlon_> shoot
[10:22] <Busybyeski> i've got a liveCD of gutsy that i want to install in a new partition so i can dual boot with vista
[10:23] <user11_011> can i connect to cdrom of a remote machine and install ubuntu from there on my machine
[10:23] <Busybyeski> i'm down to step 7 in the installer
[10:23] <rudihawk> toastguy - lol, yea we know...we might live in africa but we do have internet
[10:23] <rudihawk> and TV ;)
[10:23] <ToastGuy> haha
[10:23] <Busybyeski> but i'm afraid i'm going to be overwriting my windows partition
[10:23] <Busybyeski> how do i tell which is which and which are even created yet?
[10:23] <ifireball> Busybyeski: Ubuntu will DESTROY vista on install... (or so I'd like to say... but it wont...)
[10:23] <Busybyeski> i was confused by manual partition creation
[10:23] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: you seriously could live in the same area... Sometimes it amazes me how local the internet makes everyone.
[10:24] <Busybyeski> so i went with guided, but it's not as easy as i had hoped for
[10:24] <Marlon_> Busybyeski, i don' remenber the step 7
[10:24] <Busybyeski> marlon, it's confirmation
[10:24] <Busybyeski> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[10:24] <Busybyeski>  partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[10:24] <Busybyeski>  partition #5 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[10:24] <rudihawk> toastguy, lol - yea for all you know, i could be your next door neighbour
[10:24] <Busybyeski> is that what i want?
[10:24] <Busybyeski> i can't really tell
[10:25] <rudihawk> toastguy, cheers, its lunch time :)
[10:25] <Marlon_> first make partion in vista them install ubuntu Busybyeski
[10:25] <Busybyeski> i'll run into the same issue
[10:25] <Busybyeski> i can't identify the partitions
[10:25] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: effin crazy
[10:25] <ToastGuy> rudihawk: enjoy your lunch
[10:26] <ifireball> rudihawk: seeing that its easy to know your IP, you're not my neighbor  :P
[10:26] <rudihawk> toastguy - haha, were u worried?
[10:26] <Busybyeski> or you could walk outside and yell each others irc names
[10:26] <Marlon_> broadcom 4321AG 802.11 a/b/g draft-n Wi-Fi Adapter  Help  with this wireless
[10:26] <ToastGuy> why would I be worried?
[10:26] <ToastGuy> your an awesome person. thanks for the help
[10:26] <wols_> Busybyeski: what does fdisk -l say?
[10:26] <rudihawk> toastguy - no idea...
[10:27] <Busybyeski> wols_ what? :$ i've heard of fdisk but i don't think i have it anywhere
[10:27] <wols_> Busybyeski: what OS are you in right now?
[10:27] <Busybyeski> ubuntu
[10:27] <Busybyeski> using pidgin for irc
[10:27] <Shahab> Hi, sorry can someone help me with how to change the priority of my GRUB, to load windows as default ?
[10:27] <wols_> the what does fdisk -l say?
[10:27] <ifireball> wols_: he's staring at the install screen...
[10:27] <Busybyeski> how can i run it
[10:27] <wols_> *then what
[10:27] <wols_> ifireball: he has a live cd?
[10:27] <Busybyeski> yes
[10:27] <ToastGuy> Hey you guys, I just want to say the Ubuntu community is awesome...
[10:28] <tobias> How do I automatically launch a command as root at wake-up from suspend? Is there a file I could put those commands in? Thanks!
[10:28] <wols_> then he has fdisk
[10:28] <oddd> I'll drink to that.
[10:28] <oddd> (?)
[10:28] <ifireball> wols_: yeah... right forgot about that... carry on...
[10:28] <Busybyeski> i think i executed it, where do i look for the result haha
[10:28] <wols_> the same place you executed it
[10:28] <Busybyeski> i used the little button next to the user name =\
[10:28] <wols_> open a xterm
[10:29] <wols_> run it there
[10:29] <kbingham>  How do I build 2.6 kernel with a separate destination directory ... want to build outside the sources
[10:29] <kbingham>  I don't seem to be asking google the right questions :(
[10:29] <ifireball> Busybyeski: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[10:29] <Busybyeski> i get no response?
[10:29] <Paavi2_0> Shahab: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Configuration
[10:29] <skounis> i need help with nvidia driver
[10:30] <wols_> kbingham: use kernel-package
[10:30] <Busybyeski> just a new prompt
[10:30] <ifireball> Busybyeski: then type "sudo fdisk -l<Enter>" in there
[10:30] <wols_> Busybyeski: and at this prompt enter the command
[10:30] <Busybyeski> sudo worked
[10:30] <kbingham> wanted to build my own :)
[10:30] <Busybyeski> can i paste the whole thing here
[10:30] <wols_> kbingham: yes and you use kernel-packag for this
[10:30] <wols_> !paste | Busybyeski
[10:30] <ubotu> Busybyeski: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:30] <ifireball> !paste | Busybyeski
[10:31] <Busybyeski> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49142/
[10:32] <Busybyeski> my two partitions now are my hard disk and a recovery thing that came with HP that i don't think i'll ever use
[10:32] <wols_> Busybyeski: do you have and free unallocated space on your harddisk?
[10:32] <Busybyeski> i'm pretty sure all the space is allocated
[10:32] <wols_> *any free
[10:32] <Busybyeski> but a lot is free
[10:32] <wols_> but ubuntu can only install if you have some free space or ext3 formatted space
[10:32] <wols_> unallocated space only
[10:33] <wols_> make some space unallocated
[10:33] <Busybyeski> i thought the installer could do a little partition magic to unallocate some of my space
[10:33] <NekoKun> Guys... I tried to resize my main partition (NTFS) but it just failed. Tried to defrag, to remove any files, and it still fails. Any idea?!
[10:33] <Busybyeski> can i do that through the installer or through ubuntu or do i have to boot back to vista to unallocate space?
[10:34] <wols_> first defrag your windows disks
[10:34] <wols_> then run gparted on the disk from ubuntu and resize
[10:34] <Busybyeski> gparted is on the liveCD and can be run from vista?
[10:34] <Busybyeski> or can i defrag through ubuntu?
[10:35] <falieso1> hey... so I just did an install of ubuntu, what's the pass for root?
[10:35] <lazz0> yea its on the livecd
[10:35] <lazz0> the installer will ask you how to partition
[10:35] <Paavi2_0> gparted can be run from livecd, not from vista that is
[10:35] <Oddd> there is no root password
[10:35] <Busybyeski> can i defrag from livecd?
[10:35] <wols_> and gparted does not defrag
[10:35] <Oddd> sudo -i will get you a root shell
[10:35] <wols_> I said defrag THEN resize
[10:35] <Oddd> if you are labeled as an administrator
[10:35] <Busybyeski> i know
[10:36] <ifireball> Busybyeski: you can't defrag from Ubuntu, you have to do that from vista, and you can't run gparted from vista you have to do that from ubuntu
[10:36] <Busybyeski> wols_: can i defrag from ubuntu
[10:36] <wols_> Oddd: don't tell people that please
[10:36] <Busybyeski> so i'm looking at a few reboots here?
[10:36] <wols_> Busybyeski: no
[10:36] <Oddd> oh.. sorry
[10:36] <Oddd> (?)
[10:36] <Busybyeski> okie doke
[10:36] <falieso1> Oddd: is there a root user? isn't that something that is kinda concerning?
[10:36] <Oddd> there is
[10:36] <Oddd> but you cannot login as root
[10:36] <wols_> !toor | falieso1
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Busybyeski> so defrag both of my drives?
[10:36] <wols_> !root | falieso1
[10:37] <ubotu> falieso1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:37] <Paavi2_0> if you sudo you should only run one command per "session" :)
[10:37] <user11_011> can i connect to cdrom of a remote machine and install ubuntu from there on my machine
[10:37] <lazz0> falieso1, linux cannot live without a super user
[10:37] <wols_> !install | user11_011
[10:37] <ubotu> user11_011: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:37] <ifireball> user11_011: possible, but quite difficult
[10:37] <Busybyeski> wols_:  how much longer are you looking to stay around? think you'll be here after a defrag?
[10:37] <Oddd> (one command.... like /bin/sh?)
[10:38] <lazz0> Busybyeski, what defrag are you talking about? defrag is win only?
[10:38] <falieso1> sorry, I'm just used to gentoo
[10:38] <Paavi2_0> Oddd: i guess shell doesn't count :P
[10:38] <ifireball> Oddd: yeah, you can do that "su -" as well if you want to be cleaner about it
[10:38] <Busybyeski> lazz0: it was recommended that i defrag before i create a new partition with gparted
[10:38] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have lost my email password ... but its stored in evolution is there a way to see it ? as we know we can do that in Thunderbird ...
[10:39] <NekoKun> wols_: I defraged in windows, and used Ubuntu's default particion manager...
[10:39] <wols_> NekoKun: and?
[10:39] <NekoKun> wols_: still error...
[10:39] <wols_> what error?
[10:40] <wols_> NekoKun: did I ever give you any advice?
[10:40] <Busybyeski> i'll go defrag
[10:40] <Busybyeski> bbl
[10:40] <Busybyeski> thanks for the help if you're not back when i am
[10:40] <ifireball> Busybyeski: bakup!!!!
[10:40] <ifireball> Busybyeski: backup!!!!
[10:40] <Busybyeski> :\ i don't have anything to backup with
[10:40] <falieso1> it's disconcerting to not be root
[10:40] <falieso1> so sudo -i gives me admin privledges, right?
[10:40] <lazz0> Busybyeski, are you trying to make the partition without formatting?
[10:40] <NekoKun> wols_: Nah, I misread your reply
[10:41] <Oddd> yeah... so be careful
[10:41] <falieso1> when I run fdisk /dev/sdb why does it say it's unable to open?
[10:41] <Paavi2_0> falieso1: that's a bad habit
[10:41] <ifireball> Busybyeski: don't you have any backup tool on vista?
[10:41] <wols_> NekoKun: you ignore my question too
[10:41] <wols_> falieso1: sudo fdisk...
[10:41] <Busybyeski> lazz0: wols_ suggested that i create unallocated space to work with in gparted
[10:41] <Oddd> best to put an sudo before the command you want to run as root
[10:41] <ifireball> Busybyeski: it would be a wise thing to do before playing with partitions...
[10:41] <falieso1> wols_: tried that too
[10:41] <wols_> falieso1: dmesg | grep sdb
[10:41] <Oddd> (or gsudo if you like gnome heaps)
[10:41] <Busybyeski> ifireball: i would be backing up to the same partition i'm trying to play with
[10:41] <falieso1> ah I see
[10:41] <falieso1> I got it
[10:41] <Paavi2_0> falieso1: if you do need root priviledges for ex. on apt-get, just run sudo apt-get...
[10:42] <allnet> helo
[10:42] <lesshaste_> I can turn off "tapping" in gsynaptics but how do I make that permanent? It gets turned back when I reboot
[10:42] <allnet> who knows ubuntu template that like vista / xp
[10:42] <ifireball> Busybyeski: inedeed
[10:43] <Busybyeski> ifireball: all i'll be doing on vista is defragging anyway
[10:43] <Busybyeski> which shouldn't hurt too much i hope ;)
[10:43] <ifireball> Busybyeski: just in case, y'know... partition resizes can be dangerous...
[10:43] <Paavi2_0> allnet: there aren't any "ubuntu templates"
[10:43] <allnet> owh
[10:43] <Busybyeski> it should stay safe if i keep the size above what i'm using, shouldn't it?
[10:43] <NekoKun> I tried to resize my windows main partition (NTFS) but it just failed. Tried to defrag, to remove any files, and it still fails. Any idea?!
[10:43] <Busybyeski> PS: what's this irc server in case i need to get on from vista?
[10:43] <lesshaste_> I use "nm-applet" to manage my wireless networking but how do I get it to save my WPA PSK permanently? It's a pain to type in each time.
[10:44] <ifireball> Busybyeski: theoretically, yyes, but better smart then sorry...
[10:44] <ifireball> Busybyeski: irc.freenode.net
[10:44] <Busybyeski> oh i'll wait around for a solution to NekoKun's problem in case i run in to it also
[10:44] <wols_> NekoKun: either you tell us the error messages or you solve your problems alone
[10:45] <Busybyeski> when i do create a new partition for ubuntu, what kind should i make?  ntfs?
[10:45] <Busybyeski> or ext3
[10:45] <wols_> Busybyeski: ext3
[10:45] <Paavi2_0> ext3
[10:45] <ifireball> Busybyeski: ext3
[10:45] <NekoKun> wols_: It didn't gave any error. Just said that got an error
[10:45] <wols_> NekoKun: I told you what we need. have fun. good bye
[10:46] <Busybyeski> i'm going to go back to the manual partition selection in the installer to see exactly what i'm dealing with sortof
[10:46] <lazz0> Busybyeski, hope you make a swap partition
[10:46] <Paavi2_0> wols_: maybe it really just said "error!"
[10:46] <NekoKun> wols_: Ok, I have that crappy interface, how do I get the error messages from there?
[10:46] <Busybyeski> what's a swap partition?
[10:46] <wols_> Paavi2_0: doesn't help us to diganose it, does it?
[10:46] <Busybyeski> won't i deal with that in the installer in ubuntu?
[10:47] <ifireball> Busybyeski: indeed you will
[10:47] <Paavi2_0> wols_: you're right, but then the coders are s***heads :(
[10:47] <Busybyeski>  If you proceed with creating a new partition table on the device, then all current partitions will be removed.
[10:47] <Busybyeski> that won't format anything, will it?
[10:47] <Busybyeski> just remove partitions? i don't quite understand what that means
[10:47] <ifireball> Busybyeski: it will.
[10:47] <wols_> Paavi2_0: have fun programming your own OS. please come back when you're finished. good day
[10:47] <cruox> How can I set up a keyboard layout switcher like the one in Windows? (sorry for being Windows-centric, I just like that feature of the Redmonder os :) )
[10:48] <paritosh1010_> join #videolan
[10:48] <wols_> Busybyeski: can't you just DO what we told you? there is no other way unless you are fine with dataloss
[10:48] <ifireball> Busybyeski: the partitions are *sorta* below the filesystems, removing then pretty much destroys everything
[10:48] <Busybyeski> ifireball: what can i do in vista to prepare for the installer
[10:48] <Paavi2_0> wols_: sorry
[10:48] <wols_> Busybyeski: defrag!!!
[10:48] <Busybyeski> defrag and unallocate 10 gb of space?
[10:48] <lazz0> cruox, look around in language settings
[10:49] <lazz0> there are options to add this
[10:49] <Busybyeski> ok
[10:49] <ifireball> Busybyeski: so please 1st go to vista, defrag and BACKUP, then come back to ubunto, and resize
[10:49] <Busybyeski> i'll defrag and be back =O
[10:49] <Paavi2_0> cruox: on gome there's a panel "gadget" for that
[10:49] <Busybyeski> k
[10:50] <wols_> !ops botattack
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops botattack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <roundyz__> Hello
[10:50] <wols_> !ops | botattack
[10:50] <ubotu> botattack: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[10:50] <NekoKun> What's Ubuntu's install default partition application?
[10:50] <roundyz__> NekoKun: qparted init?
[10:50] <wols_> roundyz__: definitely not qparted
[10:50] <wols_> gparted if anything
[10:50] <roundyz__> oh ,yerh it uses gnome...
[10:51] <cole> does anyone know what purple-url-handler is?
[10:51] <NekoKun> roundyz__: I used Ubuntu 7.10 install, just used the installation 'wizard'
[10:51] <roundyz__> forgot for a min, don' even use ubuntu..
[10:51] <PriceChild> cole, purple is behind pidgin.
[10:51] <roundyz__> dont think fdisk takes command line arguments..
[10:51] <Paavi2_0> it does
[10:51] <wols_> roundyz__: parted does
[10:51] <roundyz__> thats proberbly it then
[10:52] <NekoKun> ._.
[10:52] <roundyz__> the 'wizard' is the front end
[10:52] <greenmanwitch> hello
[10:52] <roundyz__> HellDragon:
[10:52] <roundyz__> hello
[10:52] <NekoKun> roundyz__: And wich command line should I use?
[10:52] <PriceChild> !pm | cole
[10:52] <ubotu> cole: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:53] <pedro> Irene@ShineBal.info
[10:53] <greenmanwitch> In my Xubuntu livecd, my ethernet to wireless adapter worked without me even having to touch anything, which surprised me because I have a WEP key.
[10:53] <cole> i pm you pricechild because i needed to enter quite a few lines of txt
[10:53] <greenmanwitch> Anyway, I booted and now it isn't working :(
[10:53] <roundyz__> NekoKun: use gparted or fdisk .
[10:54] <roundyz__> i prefer fdisk myself..
[10:54] <Naxa> hi!
[10:54] <wols_> greenmanwitch: what is a ethernet to wireless adapter? and what chip does it use?
[10:54] <roundyz__> its with allmost every distro that is installable..
[10:55] <NekoKun> ok
[10:55] <theLichKing> hi
[10:55] <roundyz__> wols_: just works on layer 1/2 dont think youd need a driver for that
[10:55] <theLichKing> where does firefox store the search strings i used in google?
[10:55] <greenmanwitch> wols_: basically, it is a little d-link box that you attatch into an ethernet port and it acts as a wireless card. You configure it as ethernet and it works
[10:55] <Busybyeski> turns out my defrag is a weekly scheduled event =D
[10:55] <Filled-Void> Is anyone else having a problem with Playing OpenArena . Mines crashes after about 5 minutes each time
[10:55] <roundyz__> your need a module for the ethernetcard though,..
[10:55] <Naxa> My problem is that i need to connect somehow an ubuntu laptop with root priviliges and a windows xp pc with user priv. only. I need to copy files from the winxp to the ubuntu. there is a workgroup specified (and a network) on winxp, but i cannot change settings, and all i have is an ethernet cable (e.g. no switch/router)
[10:55] <wols_> greenmanwitch: you don't configure it at all. what is your ethernet card?
[10:55] <cole> usually its the power trippers that say pm's are rude
[10:56] <wols_> cole: it's the ops. you are free to look for help elsewhere if it bothers you
[10:56] <greenmanwitch> wols_: I will go find out. I don't understand wny it doesn't just work like the live cd did, though
[10:56] <wols_> cole: it doesn't beother us if you do that
[10:56] <theLichKing>  where does firefox store the search strings i used in google?
[10:56] <wols_> greenmanwitch: lspci |grep -i net
[10:56] <roundyz__> Naxa: use ifconfig to set the ip of the card to a private ip range with no gw, is the cabn;le an xover?
[10:56] <greenmanwitch> yeah, I know
[10:57] <wols_> theLichKing: somewhere under ~/.mozilla   you can delete them from the ffox UI tho
[10:57] <theLichKing> wols_: i want to delete specific search strings.. not the whole thing
[10:57] <wols_> Naxa: can you ping ubuntu from the windows box?
[10:58] <wols_> theLichKing: run grep -r under the directory I mentioned
[10:59] <Busybyeski> windows defrag used to have a cute gui to go along with it =(
[10:59] <roundyz__> Defrag is a fix for a shite filesystem.
[10:59] <abhi> hey how do i defrag my hard disk in Ubuntu? do i need to dfrag my hdd like windoze?
[10:59] <roundyz__> abhi: no, not really.
[10:59] <wols_> abhi: you don't
[11:00] <abhi> wols_: how does Linux manage to organize the hdd so efficiently then?
[11:00] <roundyz__> abhi: it uses inodes
[11:00] <Naxa> roundyz: i am sorry but i am not sure if i understand what are you saying actually :(
[11:00] <roundyz__> abhi: look it up on wikipedia
[11:00] <ifireball> greenmanwitch: it may be a simple issue of telling netmanager to use a _wired_ connection
[11:00] <abhi> roundyz__: ahhh
[11:01] <abhi> roundyz__: got any link where i can read more about how it's done?
[11:01] <lesshaste_> I use "nm-applet" to manage my wireless networking but how do I get it to save my WPA PSK permanently? It's a pain to type in each time.
[11:01] <Naxa> roundyz_ what is no gw? and xover? how will i now if its on or not?
[11:01] <wols_> Naxa: please answer me
[11:01] <roundyz__> wikipedia.org/ext2
[11:01] <roundyz__> maybe..
[11:01] <wols_> lesshaste_: use /etc/network/interfaces
[11:01] <roundyz__> gw= gateway and xover is a crossover cable
[11:01] <wols_> roundyz__: it's still greek to him
[11:01] <wols_> Naxa: please answer my question
[11:01] <Naxa> wols_ i'm actually not set it up yet one minute 'couse i wanted to be aware
[11:02] <Naxa> wols_: will answer in 5 minutes
[11:02] <greenmanwitch> ifireball: I did. It doesn't offer wireless because it doesn't know my wireless card is wireless since it plugs into the ethernet port
[11:02] <roundyz__> i hope now that i have 2 gigs of ram i can load all of alt.bin.hdtv without it slowing to a grind...
[11:02] <greenmanwitch> wols_: ok, it ir a RTL-8139
[11:02] <greenmanwitch> wols_: I KNOW that works in Linux
[11:02] <roundyz__> a well suported card in linux
[11:02] <wols_> greenmanwitch: then it should work just fine. sudo ifconfig -a
[11:03] <greenmanwitch> ok
[11:03] <roundyz__> is that fails check to see if the modules is loaded..
[11:03] <roundyz__> ..lsmod
[11:03] <roundyz__> i would grep it but i fgorgot the module name of hand..might be r8139...
[11:03] <lesshaste_> wols_, instead of nm-applet?
[11:04] <wols_> lesshaste_: yes
[11:04] <ifireball> greenmanwitch: what is your wireless AP, some kind of a router? is it supposed to hand out DHCP?
[11:04] <wols_> ifireball: it doesn't matter with the device he uses much
[11:04] <greenmanwitch> ifireball: yes, yes
[11:04] <lesshaste_> wols_, that looks like I hard code which network I want to use
[11:05] <Busybyeski> god if i defragged yesterday you would think this defrag would be quick
[11:05] <ifireball> wols_: it matters if Ubuntu doesn't send out the hostname on the DHCP request...
[11:05] <lesshaste_> wols_, how do I use it?
[11:05]  * roundyz__ is now lost...
[11:05] <wols_> ifireball: why would a hostname be necessary for the dhcp request?
[11:06] <LM22> I am trying to watch a video but it is too dark, ive tried upping my contrast and brightness on my monitor but it doesn't help... any ideas?  btw it looks fine on windows
[11:06] <ifireball> wols_: some DHCPs servers (notably AD) don't hand out IPs unless a hostname is specified
[11:06] <roundyz__> LM22: what engine are you using, mplayer, xine, gstreamer?
[11:06] <toutoun02> hello everybody
[11:06] <LM22> mplayer and ive also tried vlc
[11:06] <wols_> ifireball: then why would the install cd do it and the installed OS not? not much sense
[11:07] <roundyz__> mplayer has many contrast options you can play about with.. do man mplayer and see ;)
[11:07] <ifireball> wols_: http://ifireball.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/dhcp-trouble-on-debian/ <- apparently, the most hit article in there ;)
[11:07] <roundyz__> sounds like a module issue to me...
[11:07] <LM22> do they have a gui to config the contrast options
[11:07] <Paavi2_0> LM22: yes
[11:07] <ifireball> wols_: bugs ususally don't make sense, but I've seen netmanager mess up things more then once...
[11:08] <roundyz__> LM22: can't remember off hand, sorry.
[11:08] <LM22> ooh cool
[11:08] <LM22> ok
[11:08] <LM22> im retarded
[11:08] <LM22> lol
[11:08] <LM22> thanks
[11:08] <LM22> :D
[11:08] <Paavi2_0> LM22: on mplayer a right-click-menu
[11:08] <LM22> that fixed it
[11:08] <lesshaste_> I thought network manager was meant to be improved in gutsy gibbon
[11:09] <lesshaste_> it looks just the same and still missing 90% of the desired features :)
[11:09] <ifireball> lesshaste: still, it was improved....
[11:09] <roundyz__> I though netmanager had loads of bugs, your better of doing it all manually, then throwing it in a cript then running it in local...
[11:09] <roundyz__> any ways , i'm off to deliver some xmas cards..
[11:10] <roundyz__> => goes outside
[11:10] <lazz0> LM22, vlc has contrast options also
[11:10] <Busybyeski> wols_: what exactly will defragmenting help with in the partition process?
[11:10] <ifireball> roundyz__: plenty of other things you can do before resorting to that, there is /etc/network/interfaces for example...
[11:10] <wols_> it will make resizing possible in case the disk is fragmented
[11:11] <Busybyeski> if a defragmentation was performed yesterday, could it possibly be fragmented enough to not resize?
[11:11] <lazz0> wols_, couldnt he use paragon partition manager for example, it can resize partitions with no data loss
[11:11] <LM22> thanks everyone
[11:11] <LM22> ttly
[11:11] <Fracture> hey, whenever i try to play some music, sound or log on (when the logon music plays) i get this ear piercing screeching noise out o my laptop
[11:12] <wols_> lazz0: do you want to tell him he has to buy software?
[11:12] <Busybyeski> i was hoping to use default software haha
[11:12] <gluonman> Question: When following kidcharles' famous How-To on installing Wine and WoW, he instructs the download of the 0.9.6 Wine source code from sourceforge. Of course, he wrote that How-to in January of 2006. Is it better for me to download and extract a more recent version of the source code? Or is 0.9.6 alright?
[11:12] <lazz0> well services are expensive
[11:12] <wols_> gluonman: getting a deb should be fine
[11:12] <gluonman> wols_, what do you mean?
[11:12] <wols_> lazz0: yes cause ubuntu costs you so much money
[11:13] <wols_> gluonman: a WINE deb
[11:13] <Arilou> hi hi, sorry to bother but when I was installing it said it couldn't install some stuff, I think from internet, now I can't get to sudo apt-get install  xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:13] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: i think you'd be better of installin the default ubuntu package of wine through synaptic
[11:13] <Busybyeski> i would be willing to use either vista or ubuntu's partition managers
[11:13] <lazz0> not me but mr african millionaire
[11:13] <wols_> Arilou: give us the error message(s)
[11:13] <gluonman> wols_, you mean I don't need the source code after doing apt-get build-dep wine?
[11:13] <Busybyeski> people are telling me ubuntu's will be better
[11:13] <ifireball> gluonman: you should find a link with instructions how to add the wine repository to ubuntu on the wine website
[11:13] <wols_> gluonman: you don't need to apt-get build-dep wine
[11:13] <lesshaste_> I can turn off "tapping" in gsynaptics but how do I make that permanent? It gets turned back when I reboot
[11:14] <gluonman> Paavi2_0, the how-to strongly recommends not just installing wine from the repos to get WoW to work.
[11:14] <lene> join #ubuntu.de
[11:14] <gluonman> wols_, the How-To instructed me to.
[11:14] <ifireball> gluonman: no reason to compile from source code at all
[11:14] <khermans> lesshaste, MaxTapTime 0 in xorg
[11:14] <lene> join/#ubuntu.de
[11:14] <wols_> the howto is more than 2 years old! the world has turned since then
[11:14] <gluonman> ifireball, I'm just trying to follow the how-to.
[11:14] <wols_> !de | lene
[11:14] <ubotu> lene: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:14] <Arilou> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:14] <Arilou> wols_: E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:14] <ifireball> gluonman: the win in the "regular" repos is old, but there is a "special" repo with newer wine version
[11:14] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: that was a year ago, this isn't a "you'll get the service-pack within 8 months"-world :)
[11:14] <Busybyeski> khermans is that regarding a laptop touchpad tapping?
[11:15] <ifireball> gluonman: well, like you said its old
[11:15] <wols_> !ati | Arilou
[11:15] <ubotu> Arilou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:15] <khermans> Busybyeski, believe so
[11:15] <Arilou> !ati
[11:15] <ifireball> gluonman: alos I find that may HOWTOs are writen by newbes that make you do too much work...
[11:15] <Busybyeski> khermans i feel like my touchpad is more sensitive to tapping than in windows, what would i make taptime to stop that?
[11:15] <Arilou> wols_: I'm following that guide
[11:15] <gluonman> ifireball, right. Okay. I'll ignore the how-to, then. What is the new repo with the newer version of wine?
[11:15] <wols_> Arilou: you lack some repositories
[11:15] <gluonman> ifireball, how do I add it?
[11:16] <wols_> Arilou: to be exact: you miss restricted
[11:16] <Arilou> wols_: is there any way I can get them?
[11:16] <khermans> Busybyeski, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[11:16] <wols_> gluonman: just install wine
[11:16] <Busybyeski> thanks
[11:16] <ifireball> gluonman: like I said, there should be instructions on the wine website
[11:16] <Naxa> wols_: There are some complications so i think 20 minutes after can i answer only
[11:16] <wols_> !restricted | Arilou
[11:16] <ubotu> Arilou: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <Arilou> wols_: it says I got the latest restricted
[11:16] <gluonman> ifireball, okay.
[11:16] <gluonman> wols_, I had already run the command apt-get build-dep wine. How do I reverse that? Or will installing wine replace that?
[11:17] <wols_> Arilou: then paste the FULL output and apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx  too
[11:17] <wols_> gluonman: those things have nothing to do with the wine binaries
[11:17] <ifireball> gluonman: it just installed some packages you don;t need, no harm in that
[11:18] <gluonman> wols_, it used more than 300mb of space. If I don't need those packages, I just want to reverse the installation of them.
[11:18] <wols_> gluonman: apt-get autoremove  try that
[11:18] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: if you want the cutting edge things then have a look at http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[11:18] <gluonman> wols_, okay.
[11:18] <wols_> othrewise, check your dpkg.log to see what it installed and remove it again
[11:18] <linduxed2> urgent problem: i made an update that required me to reboot the system and now i get kernel panic
[11:18] <gluonman> Paavi2_0, thanks.
[11:18] <ifireball> gluonman:  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[11:18] <linduxed2> i think the last line said something about VFS
[11:18] <wols_> linduxed2: what error exactly?
[11:18] <wols_> linduxed2: full output please
[11:18] <gluonman> ifireball, thanks.
[11:19] <linduxed2> wols_
[11:19] <wols_> linduxed2: also pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:19] <linduxed2> i cant remember right off the bat but ill reboot and see
[11:19] <gluonman> wols_, apt-get autoremove did nothing.
[11:19] <Zweisteine> Hello, I want to build a custom kernel with SLAB (to use fglrx and have suspend working on my laptop). Will using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile produce a kernel with the snd-hda-intel module and all the other modules under /lib/modules/,,/ubuntu?
[11:19] <linduxed2> wols_ i cant get into the systemm
[11:19] <wols_> linduxed2: first the fdisk output and your menu.lst
[11:20] <wols_> linduxed2: where are you right now, what OS?
[11:20] <linduxed2> windows xp
[11:20] <Arilou> wols_: It doesn't let me install Ubuntu Restricted Extras, it says "The List of applications is not available"
[11:20] <lesshaste_> khermans, just saw your comment.. interesting so synaptics is completely irrelevant?
[11:20] <wols_> then install expore2fs and you can get the menu.lst
[11:20] <wols_> Arilou: use synaptic and anebaled restricted
[11:20] <khermans> lesshaste, not necessarily -- but you can utilize that command though
[11:20] <khermans> or synclient
[11:21] <khermans> or maxtaptime in xorg
[11:21] <linduxed2> wols_: livedisk?
[11:21] <wols_> linduxed2: that's a possibility too
[11:21] <khermans> anyone have any really hard questions?
[11:21] <khermans> just interested!
[11:21] <linduxed2> wols_: then what?
[11:21] <wols_> I told you what then
[11:21] <linduxed2> oh sorry
[11:21] <lesshaste_> khermans, yes.. how do you get network manager to save your wpa psk key
[11:21] <lesshaste_> khermans, so you don't have to type it in each time
[11:21] <khermans> lesshaste, works for me
[11:22] <lesshaste_> khermans, eh? What does
[11:22] <khermans> lesshaste, keyring
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> !cs
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <lesshaste_> khermans, can you explain further?
[11:22] <khermans> lesshaste, first time you enter any passwords for services, keyring manager will ask you to save them
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here ever hosted a counter strike server on linux? [cs1.6]
[11:22] <wols_> !anyone | Stevethepirate
[11:22] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:22] <khermans> Stevethepirate, yes!
[11:23] <lesshaste_> khermans, not with me it doesn't .. how do you set that up?
[11:23] <haary> which file system would you recommend for a large filesystem with large files on it (up to 1 TB)?
[11:23] <Stevethepirate> khermans: really?
[11:23] <khermans> lesshaste, gnome-keyring-manager
[11:23] <wols_> haary: xfs. but have a UPS
[11:23] <lesshaste_> khermans, there are many threads online where people have the same problem as me so I am very interested in your solution
[11:24] <khermans> lesshaste, are you familiar with keyring?
[11:24] <lesshaste_> khermans, not really
[11:24] <lesshaste_> installing it now
[11:24] <thyrax> haary: I just built a 2TB server I used xfs much better than ext3
[11:24] <lesshaste_> do I need to do anything else apart from install it?
[11:24] <khermans> lesshaste, if you use gnome, its already installed
[11:25] <thyrax> 2TB formatted :)
[11:25] <khermans> haary, or reiser4 :-p
[11:25] <lesshaste_> khermans, I am on xubuntu
[11:25] <thyrax> 2TB formatted raid 5 :)
[11:25] <khermans> lesshaste, oh then you dont have it
[11:25] <lesshaste_> khermans, I do now .. just installed it :)
[11:25] <khermans> hehe but you may need to start it manually
[11:25] <wols_> khermans: please don't give jokes to people asking serious questions
[11:25] <khermans> wols_, what do you mean sir?
[11:26] <wols_> you know what I mean, so stop it
[11:26] <khermans> wols_, no i seriously dont
[11:26] <wols_> *plonk*
[11:26] <glitch-> merry christmas
[11:26] <haary> thyrax: wols_: thanks, I myself thought of xfs. An no, I will not consider reiser4:)
[11:27] <khermans> wols_, you mean reiser4?
[11:27] <lesshaste_> glitch-, happy Kwanzaa :)
[11:29] <glitch-> lesshaste_ : Kwanzaa ?
[11:29] <lesshaste_> glitch-, :) check the wikipedia
[11:29] <wols_> glitch-: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[11:30] <matrix> Hello
[11:30]  * Matrix wonders why vista dont want to boot a ubuntu cd :S
[11:31] <ikonia> wols_: got a minute in -offtopic
[11:31] <glitch-> wols_ is ubuntu 8 out?
[11:31] <ikonia> Matrix: vista can't boot a cd
[11:31] <ikonia> Matrix: vista is an operating system, so if it's running it's already booted
[11:31] <Matrix> how i dual boot ubuntu?
[11:31] <ownlinux> ?
[11:31] <Matrix> i heard its been done
[11:31] <lesshaste_> wols_, was the keyring advice wrong?
[11:31]  * ifireball wonders why ppl wonder about vista
[11:31] <ikonia> Matrix: boot from the ubuntu cd and install vista
[11:31] <ownlinux> grub
[11:31] <ikonia> oops
[11:31] <wols_> lesshaste_: the reiser4 thing was
[11:31] <ikonia> Matrix: boot from the ubuntu cd and install ubuntu
[11:31] <lesshaste_> wols_, oh.. i missed that
[11:32] <lesshaste_> wols_, do I need to start the gnome-keyring-manager somewhere?
[11:32] <Matrix> damn Lol (I only have a recovery cd (I Diden want to buy vista when i boet this pc)
[11:32] <wols_> Matrix: install windows, then install ubuntu and it's done
[11:32] <wols_> lesshaste_: probably, dunno where
[11:32] <Matrix> I have installed windows
[11:32] <Matrix> its on my compute
[11:32] <epifanio> hi
[11:33] <epifanio> i'm on 7.10 (apache2)
[11:33] <Matrix> so i have to run the ubuntu setup IN Windows
[11:33] <khermans> lesshaste, you can also store the key in /etc/network/interfaces if you like
[11:33] <Paavi2_0> Matrix: definitely no
[11:33] <epifanio>  i'm able to connect from internet on a web page on my ubuntu, pointing the browser to http://"ip-number"/apache2-default/path/to/index.html
[11:33] <khermans> Matrix, wubi
[11:33] <Matrix> wubi?
[11:33] <khermans> Matrix, yes
[11:33] <Matrix> arhh hehe
[11:33] <epifanio> how can i set an alias in the apache configuration file ?
[11:34] <nikglass> When I try to put my wireless into monitor mode my system generates this problem: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[11:34] <nikglass>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
[11:34] <nikglass>  Please help me with this
[11:34] <ifireball> epifanio: what do you mean?
[11:34] <khermans> Matrix, http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wubi/Wubi-7.04.04.exe
[11:34] <epifanio> i need to use something like :  www.malink.something.com  .. instead of ip-number :-/
[11:34] <ifireball> epifanio: redirects?
[11:34] <ifireball> epifanio: virtual hosts?
[11:34] <Matrix> What is wubi?
[11:34] <epifanio> yes, virtualhost
[11:34] <khermans> nikglass, you prolly use ndiswrapper
[11:34] <Matrix> arh
[11:34] <khermans> this is not possible
[11:35] <wols_> epifanio: ae2nsite
[11:35] <Matrix> Wait have to logon with windows then lol
[11:35] <epifanio> tring to follow apache docs ... without success
[11:35] <ikonia> Matrix: wubi is not supported - don't use it
[11:35] <nikglass> khermans, what do I need to do?
[11:35] <khermans> nikglass, are you using ndiswrapper?
[11:35] <ifireball> epifanio: afaik, that's not configured in Apache, you need to have the proper domain name pointing to your server
[11:35] <Ademan> for some reason "keyboard repeat" is turned off (i mean when you hold down a given key it normally would repeat after a short pause, but it stopped doing that) i've no idea what happened, but if anyone knows how to fix it i'd be very grateful, it's driving me nuts
[11:35] <khermans> ikonia, he said he had no other way
[11:36] <khermans> Ademan, check BIOS
[11:36] <ikonia> khermans: thats nonsense
[11:36] <ifireball> epifanio: do you want the Apache to server more then one site?
[11:36] <nikglass> dont know I dont think so... I'm new to this :)
[11:36] <khermans> ikonia, thats what he said
[11:36] <ifireball> epifanio: do you want the Apache to serve more then one site?
[11:36] <linduxe1> wols_: ok im ubuntu livecd now
[11:36] <DIA_XO_Matrix> hre i am with windows Lol
[11:36] <wols_> linduxe1: I asked you to pastebin a few things
[11:36] <Ademan> khermans: well, it happened in the middle of a session, not between a reboot, still could be bios?
[11:36] <epifanio> no just one index.html (only one sites)
[11:36] <J-E-L-L-0> Quick, and probably dumb question, is Samba installed by default on Ubuntu Server 6.06?
[11:36] <khermans> ---> <Matrix> so i have to run the ubuntu setup IN Windows
[11:37] <khermans> adante, prolly not
[11:37] <DIA_XO_Matrix> yes?
[11:37] <wols_> Ademan: considering ubuntu doesn't care about BIOS to access hardware: it never could be BIOS
[11:37] <khermans> DIA_XO_Matrix, why cant you use ubuntu live cd to install?
[11:37] <ifireball> epifanio: does the server have a real IP (visible from the internet) ?
[11:37] <Ademan> J-E-L-L-0: i don't really know, but that sure is old ubuntu
[11:37] <epifanio> yes
[11:37] <DIA_XO_Matrix> Becaus it gave me an error (Now ofc i cant rember it lol)
[11:38] <Ademan> wols_: ah, well then is there a setting in GNOME or something?
[11:38] <linduxe1> wols_: http://pastebin.ca/826715
[11:38] <epifanio> i'm able to coonect from internet
[11:38] <wols_> no clue, sorry
[11:38] <J-E-L-L-0> wasn't sure i should use the newer server on older (p3 server) hardware.  all i want is a file server....
[11:38] <ifireball> J-E-L-L-0: afaik, no
[11:38] <ikonia> jenda: a P3 box is great !
[11:38] <wols_> linduxe1: menu.lst too
[11:38] <Naxa> i've got 2 gb of ram... is it enough to do a 0.5 gb swat?
[11:38] <jenda> ikonia: not me ;)
[11:38] <Ademan> J-E-L-L-0: i don't think a newer version is going to be significantly more hardware intensive than an older version, i highly reccomend using a newer version
[11:38] <linduxe1> wols_: i switched to lilo from grub so youll get that
[11:39] <khermans> J-E-L-L-0, file serving is not CPU intensive
[11:39] <ikonia> jenda: ?
[11:39] <J-E-L-L-0> ok thanks ifireball, i'll see about installing it myself then
[11:39] <ikonia> ooh
[11:39] <ikonia> oops
[11:39] <ifireball> epifanio: do you own that domain name that you want pointing to your server?
[11:39] <ikonia> jenda: sorry
[11:39] <Fracture> why every time i try to do sudo apt-get .... does the package have no installationg candidate
[11:39] <J-E-L-L-0> i was thinking more along the lines of hardware recognition and compatibility
[11:39] <Ademan> J-E-L-L-0: but if it's not installed by default it's very easy to install on your own
[11:39] <wols_> Fracture: which package?
[11:39] <ikonia> J-E-L-L-0: a P3 box will be fine
[11:39] <ifireball> J-E-L-L-0: simple mater of apt-getting it...
[11:39] <Fracture> well
[11:39] <J-E-L-L-0> this server is way overkill then.. 1Ghz Xeon P3's x 2...
[11:39] <Fracture> realplayer
[11:39] <khermans> Fracture, it might not e in repos
[11:40] <Fracture> same with install opera
[11:40] <wols_> !info realplayer
[11:40] <J-E-L-L-0> ok will do ifireball
[11:40] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in gutsy
[11:40] <Fracture> ok
[11:40] <Fracture> wat bout opera?
[11:40] <wols_> Fracture: see how that doesn't exist
[11:40] <wols_> !real | Fracture
[11:40] <ubotu> Fracture: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <J-E-L-L-0> i have no problem doing it, just wasnt sure if i would need to and though i owuld ask while downloading.. though now i'm downloading 7.10 instead : )
[11:41] <Ademan> J-E-L-L-0: haha, wow, unless you're serving a lot of people that's more than enough, but in the future don't be afraid to use more recent versions, with very few exceptions hardware support can only improve :-p
[11:41] <Fracture> o ye another thing, when ever i try playing music or sound a massive screeching noise comes out, that pierces my ears
[11:41] <Fracture> it happens when i log on aswell
[11:41] <Ademan> Fracture: your sound is broken, horribly
[11:41] <Busybyeski> wow this is my first windows backup, which i thought was happening automatically. talk about a halt to the whole install process
[11:41] <J-E-L-L-0> yeah and i think its got like 2 or 3gb RAM too.. maybe i'll run some other things on it too... though i don't know what just yet.....
[11:41] <ifireball> where is the guy that wanted hard questions?
[11:41] <Ademan> Fracture: normally there'd be a sound clip that plays when you log in, so it seems every time a sound should play you get that screeching
[11:42] <J-E-L-L-0> thanks for teh help guys : )
[11:42] <khermans> wols_, how do i get rid of the "free the fish"
[11:42] <Fracture> no i can hear the sound clip under it
[11:42] <Fracture> i have vista dual booted on here
[11:42] <Fracture> and
[11:42] <Fracture> that sound works fine
[11:43] <Ademan> Fracture: huh, unfortunately i don't know jack squat, but if you found out your sound chipset other people here might be able to help you
[11:43] <Fracture> would be in lspci wouldnt it
[11:43] <linduxe1> wols_: i think i know what the problem is
[11:43] <linduxe1> wols_: my lilo.conf is gone
[11:44] <epifanio> ifireball: yes i've it (mybe it isn't already active,  i request it yestarday,  i need to see if the dns are ready)
[11:44] <wols_> linduxe1: that's not the problem
[11:44] <Fracture> Audio device : intel corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[11:44] <ifireball> epifanio: and you asked for it to point to your server's IP ?
[11:44] <minus> hijay, I'm trying to get my WLAN working, but there is no WLAN device in ifconfig. I have a Atheros AR5413 802.11abg WLAN card
[11:44] <linduxe1> wols_: but its still gone...
[11:44] <wols_> yes that is a probelm but not the one causing your kernel panic
[11:45] <linduxe1> ok
[11:45] <J-E-L-L-0> Fracture: do you actualy use a high def (like 5.1) speaker setup?
[11:45] <linduxe1> ive chrooted to the disk
[11:45] <Fracture> err
[11:45] <Fracture> idno
[11:45] <linduxe1> wols_: think i can dmesg to get the last output_
[11:45] <Fracture> im pretty new to linux
[11:45] <J-E-L-L-0> Fracture: how many speakers are hooked up to your computer?  2? 5?
[11:45] <wols_> linduxe1: what has dmesg to do with your problem?
[11:45] <Ademan> Fracture: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)   is mine (heh) it works fine, i guess your sound chipset is a bit too new, are you on gutsy or what?
[11:45] <Fracture> its a laptop
[11:45] <Fracture> so 2 at the front
[11:46] <linduxe1> wols_: honestly im not very familiar with the command, its just that a lot of ppl tend to ask for it...
[11:46] <khermans> how do i reverse the "free the fish" action in Gnome/
[11:46] <khermans> ?
[11:46] <J-E-L-L-0> i would say theres a setting in the bios to change the sound from high def to regular ac97... but im not sure that would affect ubuntu
[11:47] <wols_> linduxe1: you recreate a proper lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo again
[11:47] <linduxe1> wols_: roger
[11:47] <Busybyeski> lazz0 the only backup that vista will do for me are documents/media, should i backup system files etc.?
[11:49] <minus> So no one knows how to enable an Atheros AR5413 802.11abg NIC
[11:50] <Fracture> i also get no sound if i play music through amarok or xmms
[11:50] <khermans> minus, ifconfig up ?
[11:50] <gluonman> minus, have you tried installing ndiswrapper?
[11:51] <EnigmaDude23> yo anyone here?
[11:52] <enigmadude> yesh i'm hee
[11:52] <J-E-L-L-0> nope, no one
[11:52] <J-E-L-L-0> :)
[11:52] <EnigmaDude23> cool just chekcing
[11:52] <epifanio> ifireball:  :-( i checked, it isn't already active
[11:52] <epifanio> maybe a solution to undstand "how figure out"... can i work  locally, the project link is on : http://127.0.0.1/apache2-default/maywebproject/htdocs/
[11:52] <enigmadude> sweet i just built my own IRC client using Python
[11:53] <EnigmaDude23> that is cool
[11:53] <EnigmaDude23> now get to bed
[11:53] <enigmadude> yeah that's a plan
[11:53] <ronnie> python!!!!!
[11:53] <ronnie> cool
[11:53] <enigmadude> yeah i wasn't bad
[11:54] <ronnie> XD
[11:54] <enigmadude> using wxPython for the GUI
[11:54] <keegan> enigmadude can u write a program for me
[11:54] <enigmadude> the only program i'm gonna write right now is one to go to bed
[11:54] <enigmadude> laters allll
[11:54] <EnigmaDude23> yeah laters
[11:54] <J-E-L-L-0> that sounds like a good idea.. i think ill do the same :P
[11:54] <ninnghizidha> test
[11:54] <khermans> enigmadude, sleep
[11:55] <EnigmaDude23> sleeeeeeep
[11:55] <khermans> ^^ written many years ago
[11:55] <EnigmaDude23> sleeeep is good
[11:55] <enigmadude> bye alllll
[11:55] <khermans> enigmadude, have a good usleep
[11:55] <enigmadude> thx
[11:57] <Busybyeski> wols_: defrag and backup complete
[11:57] <Busybyeski> now do all the partitioning in gparted?
[11:58] <minus> gluonman, No, I'll try that out.
[11:59] <wols_> Busybyeski: yes
[11:59] <Busybyeski> alrighty
[11:59] <minus> khermans, how am I supposed to be able to do that when I don't know what name the device uses? I tried ath0 and wifi0 with no result.
[12:00] <wols_> minus: have you installed the madwifi drivers?
[12:01] <xiaohu> 大家好啊
[12:01] <xiaohu> 有人在吗
[12:01] <passbe> does anyone have any sort of temp monitoring in ubuntu on a macbook core 2 due ?
[12:01] <wols_> !cn | xiaohu
[12:01] <ubotu> xiaohu: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:01] <wols_> passbe: lm-sensors
[12:02] <Fracture> my sound doesnt work on ubuntu gutsy(im new and recently installed it) my Audio device : intel corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[12:02] <huwr> Hello. My Gutsy installer keeps dropping into BusyBox every time I start up. Anyone know what's going on, please?
[12:02] <minus> wols_, I'm doing it now actually
[12:02] <gluonman> Does anyone here know the reason why my webcam keeps freezing completely when I broadcast it in Kopete? Works fine testing it in camorama, etc.
[12:03] <wols_> !sound | Fracture
[12:03] <ubotu> Fracture: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:03]  * Matrix getsv very sad when he write down the error message he gets when he tryed to duel boot vista and ubuntu
[12:04] <passbe> wols_:  ive installed that and run sensors-detect, what do i do now ?
[12:04] <khermans> Matrix, sounds like vista and ubuntu are dueling
[12:05] <Matrix> yeah
[12:05] <Matrix> a war
[12:05] <Matrix> [0.468000] ..mp-bios timer not connected to I0-APIC[0.468000] kernel panic - not syncing: L0-APIC + timer dosent  work  boot with apic=debug and send a report then try booting with the 'noapic' option
[12:05] <minus> wols_, Though I got stuck here. After I've done "make". What am I supposed to do? Is it just to modprobe ath_pci+
[12:05] <minus> ?*
[12:05] <intelikey> anyone know anything about getting thermal readding form the cpu ?
[12:05] <khermans> Matrix, try to append to kernel parameters this: noapic nolapic apic=off
[12:05] <minus> intelikey, "lm-sensors"
[12:05] <gluonman> Webcam works fine when testing it in camorama, but it freezes as soon as I broadcast it on Kopete and the other person in the chatroom accepts the webcam invitation. Is there a way around that?
[12:05] <khermans> acpi=off
[12:06] <Busybyeski> okay, i'm going through the install process now
[12:06] <Matrix> well im not that good at computer that i know what that means
[12:06] <wols_> passbe: run sensors
[12:06] <Busybyeski> where can i access gparted from the liveCD
[12:06] <passbe> hmm none detected
[12:07] <passbe> a reboot maybe ?
[12:07] <wols_> minus: you are not suppsoed to run make
[12:07] <wols_> minus: who told you to?
[12:07] <gluonman> Busybyeski, Applications --> System Tools?
[12:07] <minus> wols_, "nano INSTALL" told me so.
[12:07] <intelikey> minus not really needing an app to read them i just need to get the system to spot the thermometer
[12:07] <Busybyeski> got it
[12:07] <Busybyeski> thanks
[12:07] <lesshaste_> khermans, http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/ seems to be what you were referring to?
[12:08] <wols_> minus: where did you get the madwifi drivers from?
[12:08] <BentBriar> join #cross-lfs
[12:08] <gluonman> Does anyone have a clue what's going on with my webcam? It works fine in testing, but freezes when I broadcast it in Kopete.
[12:08] <intelikey> minus a p3 coppermine does support thermal doesn't it ?
[12:08] <lesshaste_> khermans, I'm on gibbon but I hope it's the same
[12:08] <minus> wols_, From their homepage.
[12:08] <wols_> minus: then ask them and not #ubuntu?
[12:08] <minus> intelikey, I don't know..
[12:08] <lesshaste_> gluonman, does it work in skype video for example?
[12:08] <minus> wols_, maybe I should.
[12:08] <gluonman> lesshaste_, I haven't actually used skype.
[12:08] <intelikey> minus ok.
[12:08] <lesshaste_> gluonman, might be worth testing
[12:09] <gluonman> lesshaste_, but it works fine using camorama.
[12:09] <lesshaste_> gluonman, ah... then maybe it's a kopete issue
[12:09] <wols_> minus: fyi, ubuntu ships with madwifi drivers by default
[12:09] <lesshaste_> gluonman, have you asked them?
[12:09] <gluonman> lesshaste_, It could be. I was hoping that I might be able to install a plugin or something to make it work.
[12:09] <Busybyeski> wols_:  i've got a /dev/scd0 and a /dev/sda
[12:09] <khermans> lesshaste, yes
[12:09] <gluonman> lesshaste_, asked who?
[12:09] <Busybyeski> is the cd0 the cd drive?
[12:09] <lesshaste_> gluonman, the kopete people
[12:09] <gluonman> lesshaste_, no.
[12:09] <wols_> Busybyeski: /dev/sda is your disk, /dev/scd0 is a cdrom
[12:10] <minus> wols_, Yeah, I noticed when I did "make install" cause there where already a bunch of modules in /lib/modules/
[12:10] <Busybyeski> so i'm going to unallocate some space from /sda
[12:10] <wolfeySI> gluonman: if you want MSN, aMSN is better than one-for-all messengers
[12:10] <Fracture> ive checked through all that site
[12:10] <Fracture> but still nothing
[12:10] <wolfeySI> gluonman: cam works great in aMSN
[12:10] <gluonman> lesshaste_, what is skype anyway? Is it an IM client?
[12:10] <gluonman> wolfeySI, I already have aMSN. I'll give it a try there.
[12:10] <wolfeySI> skype for linux doesnt yet have video
[12:10] <wolfeySI> but sounds works :)
[12:10] <cookie> hello
[12:10] <gluonman> wolfeySI, okay. Thanks.
[12:11] <cookie> How can I view .mkv movies on ubuntu 7.10
[12:11] <Busybyeski> ahhh gross i have to run stuff in vista again
[12:11] <minus> cookie, Yes. VLC works fine for that.
[12:11] <cookie> View them properly...not in slow motion
[12:12] <cookie> I have totem and they view in slow-motion
[12:12] <gluonman> cookie, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:12] <minus> cookie, "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[12:12] <aladdinsane> how do i get the UUID of my SD flashcard, its mounted as /dev/sdd1/ (and works) but when i run sudo vol_id /dev/sdd1 i get ID_FS_UUID= (that is = to nothing), anyone?
[12:12] <cookie> is vlc a movie player
[12:12] <cookie> ?
[12:12] <minus> cookie, yes.
[12:12] <cookie> ok
[12:12] <crush_groove> mornin room
[12:13] <MrKirby1984> howdy
[12:13] <Pici> !uudid | aladdinsane
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uudid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Pici> !uuid | aladdinsane
[12:13] <ubotu> aladdinsane: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:13] <cookie> thanks
[12:13] <cookie> installing vlc now
[12:13] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, skype for linux has video
[12:13] <gluonman> lesshaste_, is skype an alternative to kopete?
[12:13] <minus> cookie, no problemo :)
[12:14] <lesshaste_> gluonman, sort of ... skype is a very famous chat/voip/video call tool
[12:14] <cookie> btw...how can I use yahoo voice chat with pidgin
[12:14] <cookie> or webcam
[12:14] <lesshaste_> gluonman, I am amazed you haven't heard of it
[12:14] <gluonman> lesshaste_, okay. I'll look into it.
[12:14] <gluonman> lesshaste_, well, I've heard the name, I've just never used it or seen someone use it.
[12:14] <lesshaste_> cookie, no chance..the pidgin people won't support voice/video
[12:14] <aladdinsane> Pici: ok thnx, bu now i got uuid 0000-0000 instead, so i guess same problem, or doesn't my flash card have a UUID?
[12:14] <lesshaste_> gluonman, can I ask which country you are in?
[12:14] <cookie> Or which yahoo messenger is best for linux? to support voice/video
[12:15] <gluonman> lesshaste_, I'm in Polynesia.
[12:15] <cookie> except gyachy...which is a piece of crap?
[12:15] <lesshaste_> gluonman, oh :)  and wow!
[12:15] <intelikey> anyone can help me get some info into  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/   or is that beyond the scope of the official ubuntu support channel ?
[12:15] <sKy\> cookie depends on what you want
[12:15] <cookie> I want a yahoo messenger client that supports voice/webcam
[12:16] <Pici> aladdinsane: I would think that it would get a uuid, but I havent actually checked... and no flash drives for me to test here.
[12:16] <MrKirby1984> who here knows anything about ati problems, related to 7-11
[12:16] <gluonman> lesshaste_, my father's from kenya and my mother is French/Irish.
[12:16] <lesshaste_> cookie, you are really going to have trouble... can you switch to another protocol?
[12:16] <lesshaste_> gluonman, cool :)
[12:16] <cookie> not really
[12:16] <cookie> all my friends use yahoo
[12:16] <lesshaste_> cookie, then you may be SOL as they say in the states :)
[12:16] <cookie> I can not make them switch
[12:16] <cookie> SOL
[12:16] <cookie> wtf is SOL
[12:16] <aladdinsane> Pici, my other flash drive does have one so i dont know either..
[12:16] <lesshaste_> try asking in #kopete and #pidgin
[12:17] <cookie> thanks
[12:17] <lesshaste_> cookie, S out of luck
[12:17] <intelikey> anyone ?
[12:17] <Pici> SOL is a bit outside of the family friendly language that we ask that users abide by in this channel.
[12:17] <aladdinsane> anybody know why my flash drive gets/has UUID 0000-0000? and if this is normal..
[12:17] <lesshaste_> cookie, ideally you get them all to move to something SIP compatible
[12:17] <sKy\> lesshaste_ pidgin supports no audio/vidoe right now. but it`s planed, or got it dropped?
[12:18] <lesshaste_> sKy\, it did for a bit then got mostly dropped
[12:18] <lesshaste_> sKy\, they basically aren't interested
[12:18] <MrKirby1984> this is what I get when I disable desktop effects:  http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k110/macnkirby/crapola.png       if anybody knows what that is please assist
[12:18] <g00se> Running Gutsy LiveCD. What's best way to take strain off RAM when installing new packages by using mounted partition on local HD?
[12:18] <lesshaste_> sKy\, skype does a good job so it's hard to get excited by an alternative I think
[12:18] <MrKirby1984> *enable
[12:18] <neus> Hey guys, I want to transfer files between my ubuntu machine and my windowsxp machine. They are both on the same roter and there is a lot of data: I'd like to write to a share on the windows machine -- how do I do this?
[12:18] <sKy\> well, there is no messenger like skype for voice chats, working out of the box
[12:18] <sKy\> there is sip, but sip is complicated, buggy...
[12:19] <sKy\> no real floss alternative to skype
[12:19] <intelikey> neus samba
[12:19] <apfel_> what is the password I need to enter for "System / Administration / ..." (in gnome)?  I set the root password but this does not work there
[12:19] <Pici> apfel_: You need to use your users password.
[12:19] <Pici> !sudo | apfel_
[12:19] <ubotu> apfel_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:19] <lesshaste_> sKy\, that's right.. it's sad really
[12:19] <sKy\> apfel_ in ubuntu there is no root afaik. you must use sudo
[12:19] <MrKirby1984> for samba windows sharing there are a few good how tos online
[12:20] <lesshaste_> sKy\, you can be root if you really want to be..sudo bash :)
[12:20] <g00se> neus: Mount the share using smbfs
[12:20] <Pici> sKy\: There is root, just the password is locked.
[12:20] <rhorstkoetter> hi@all. i read kubuntu 8.04 will not be LTS release. same for ubuntu as well?
[12:20] <apfel_> Pici: aah, stupid me. thank you<1
[12:20] <lesshaste_> how do you run something in the background that you run with sudo?
[12:20] <lesshaste_> sudo foo &
[12:20] <lesshaste_> doesn't work
[12:20] <sKy\> apfel_ there are some instructions on google to enable root anyway, but you won`t need it. just use sudo
[12:20] <Pici> rhorstkoetter: No. Kubuntu will not be LTS only because it is going to include KDE4.
[12:20] <lesshaste_> sudo "foo &" ?
[12:21] <wolfeySI> lesshaste_: since when?
[12:21] <Pici> lesshaste_: That should work.
[12:21] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, ?
[12:21] <lesshaste_> Pici, which one?
[12:21] <Pici> rhorstkoetter: er. and Ubuntu 8.04 will be LTS, sorry if that wasn't clear.
[12:21] <wolfeySI> skype for linux doesnt have video, i checked their page and forums and blogs zillion times
[12:21] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, sudo foo &  puts sudo into the background so you can't enter your password
[12:21] <rhorstkoetter> Pici: also read this, but does it make sense to release ubuntu 8.04 as LTS and kubuntu not? *confused*
[12:21] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, it does :)
[12:21] <apfel_> sKy\: thanks but I already enabled it and I like stuff like "su"ing without a password (wheel).  I just didn't know the other password, which is just the one of my user
[12:21] <Pici> wolfeySI: iirc, the skype beta has video.
[12:21] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, I am running it
[12:21] <sKy\> ok
[12:21] <lesshaste_> wolfeySI, check version 2 beta
[12:22] <Pici> apfel_: You don't know your user's password???
[12:22] <wolfeySI> ahh so that's new
[12:22] <lesshaste_> yep :)
[12:22] <lesshaste_> it's pretty cool and as always almost works perfectly :)
[12:22] <g00se> wolfeySI: Tried wengo?
[12:22] <Pici> rhorstkoetter: We had a long discussion over this in #ubuntu+1 (which is probably where we should be discussing this) yesterday..
[12:22] <apfel_> Pici: nah, I just didn't know I had to use it when clicking system / administration / ... :)
[12:22] <wolfeySI> i last checked some half year ago, there was no date set for that
[12:22] <wolfeySI> although users complained about video for two damn years
[12:22] <sKy\> lol wengo :|
[12:23] <rhorstkoetter> Pici: ok
[12:23] <gluonman> I just tried to play a music file but it said it could not play it because my sound card is busy and might be in use by another program.
[12:23] <gluonman> What does that mean?
[12:23] <neus> exit
[12:23] <Arilou> hi there, sorry to bother again, I do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" and I get "E: Broken packages"
[12:23] <g00se> sky\: Why you laugh?
[12:24] <wols_> gluonman: it means another program has it already open
[12:24] <wols_> gluonman: dsp or alsa?
[12:24] <gluonman> wols_, but I don't see any program that would tie up the sound card so much that it would prevent sound from coming from my laptop.
[12:24] <NeT_DeMoN_> how do i look at my DNS files?
[12:24] <gluonman> wols_, all I have open is xchat, an installer, and a file folder.
[12:25] <wols_> gluonman: gnome already opens the sound device via esd
[12:25] <ifireball> NeT_DeMoN_: what do you mean by that exactly?
[12:25] <g00se> Running Gutsy LiveCD. What's best way to take strain off RAM when installing new packages by using mounted partition on local HD?
[12:25] <sKy\> g00se i couldn`t recommend wengo. it`s very bad... (this unless) acitivation doesn`t come, server is often not working, online status is messed up, connections break, to much bugs...
[12:25] <MrKirby1984> so, anybody that can help me with a compiz problem with a radeon x1600 and latest ati drivers?  I ALMOST have it working
[12:25] <NeT_DeMoN_> ifireball: like my host files
[12:25] <gluonman> wols_, The only thing I can think of is that I ran WoW briefly and then shut it off. maybe that did something to the sound card.
[12:25] <g00se> sky\: Thanks - i haven't tried it yet ;-)
[12:25] <wols_> MrKirby1984: you need xserver-xgl
[12:25] <gluonman> wols_, probably something I could easily fix with a reboot.
[12:25] <ifireball> NeT_DeMoN_: just type "cat /etc/hosts" from the console
[12:25] <MrKirby1984> yeah, but that sux
[12:26] <MrKirby1984> already did that
[12:26] <gluonman> wols_, but I was just hoping I could fix it without a reboot.
[12:26] <lesshaste_> gluonman, have you tried openwengo?
[12:26] <MrKirby1984> trying to get aiglx to work
[12:26] <neus> g00se: I've installed samba now: how do I mount a windows share?
[12:26] <NeT_DeMoN_> ifireball: ok, thanks
[12:26] <gluonman> lesshaste_, what the hell is that?
[12:26] <wols_> MrKirby1984: where did you get your fglrx?
[12:26] <MrKirby1984> it enables desktop effects, but screen gets all messed up
[12:26] <MrKirby1984> wondering if anybody knows a fix
[12:26] <J-E-L-L-0> I'm getting messages like the ncurses-base deb file is corrupt on teh cd and the setup couldnt download it..  should i worry about these?
[12:26] <lesshaste_> gluonman, :) google is your friend
[12:26] <g00se> neus: try something like sudo mount -t smbfs windowsbox:/share /winbox
[12:26] <lesshaste_> gluonman, which google do you get where you are?
[12:26] <Arilou> hi there, sorry to bother again, I do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" and I get "E: Broken packages"
[12:26] <MrKirby1984> compiled straight from ati
[12:26]  * wolfeySI took a nice pic of himself... amsn+gimp http://wolfey.si/tmp/webcam1b.jpg
[12:26] <gluonman> English Google.
[12:27] <lesshaste_> I notice no one has asked in #kopete or #pidgin about yahoo voice :)
[12:27] <wolfeySI> it looks like drawing
[12:27] <MrKirby1984> latest one supposedly supports it
[12:27] <gluonman> !google openwengo
[12:27] <wols_> Arilou: you get more than that. FULL output please
[12:27] <lesshaste_> clearly only feel comfortable here :)
[12:27] <wolfeySI> i think it will do for 'adultsexfinder'
[12:27] <wolfeySI> :)
[12:27] <lesshaste_> gluonman, .com ?
[12:27] <lesshaste_> !google openwengo
[12:27] <gluonman> !openwengo
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwengo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <J-E-L-L-0> i verified the cd when i burnt it, but i didnt have ubuntu check it for defects before i installed...   can the install continue if it can't download some of the packages?
[12:28] <lesshaste_> gluonman, try actual google :)
[12:28] <ikonia> J-E-L-L-0: depends on the packages, probably not
[12:28] <gluonman> lesshaste_, way ahead of you.
[12:28] <ifireball> J-E-L-L-0: well, ncurses is rather important...
[12:29] <lesshaste_> gluonman, :)
[12:29] <J-E-L-L-0> hmm, so i should probably burn a new cd and then have ubuntu check it for defects eh?
[12:29] <Arilou> wols_: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[12:29] <ifireball> J-E-L-L-0: why wsn't the setup able to d/l is it not connected to the inet?
[12:29] <dave81> !clam
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <J-E-L-L-0> it is, and it was able to pull an ip via dhcp.. so i dont know
[12:30] <gluonman> lesshaste_, interesting.
[12:30] <crush_groove> !clam-av
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clam-av - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <crush_groove> !clamav
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <crush_groove> hmm
[12:30] <crush_groove>  thought I saw it b4
[12:30] <dave81> ye odd hur
[12:30] <yimmmy> hola and good morning
[12:31] <yimmmy> every one
[12:31] <dave81> i had update download clam today but i cant find the program on my system
[12:31] <gluonman> lesshaste_, I'm assuming that giving WoW-Trial version a run messed up my sound.
[12:31] <gluonman> lesshaste_, perhaps if I reboot it will be back to normal.
[12:31] <ifireball> crush_groove, dave81 : just ask apt: aptitude search clam ;)
[12:31] <dave81> dude leave wow alone there are far better mmorpgs out there
[12:31] <crush_groove> ty ifireball
[12:32] <lesshaste_> gluonman, :)
[12:32] <g00se> sky\: When did you last try wengo?
[12:32] <dave81> thank you firball
[12:32] <gluonman> dave81, if you don't like WoW, don't play it yourself. But that's where it's at for me.
[12:33] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to set my screen size on bootup?  it complains saying it should be set at 1024X768
[12:33] <dave81> thats cool wasnt haveing a go at you just saying why pay each month to play a mmorpg when there are one off payment games or even free ons
[12:34] <neus> exit
[12:34] <gluonman> dave81, I understand. The only thing really keeping into it is the fact that I have soooo many friends there.
[12:34] <pawan> hi
[12:34] <dave81> thats cool
[12:34] <dave81> have you tried guild wars?
[12:35] <gluonman> dave81, my brother plays that, but I haven't personally tried it.
[12:35] <dave81> its quite good
[12:35] <gluonman> dave81, is that one free?
[12:35] <wols_> gluonman: no. and it's OT here
[12:35] <gluonman> wols_, Right. sorry.
[12:36] <dave81> about £10 to buy but well worth it as thats the only time you pay
[12:36] <dave81> sword of the new world is free
[12:36] <dave81> also ok]
[12:36] <Arilou> sorry to bother, but when I do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, I get  "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable E: Broken packages"
[12:36] <pawan> how to install yahoo messenger
[12:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all. I am looking for the syntax and file to edit to make a cron job that will run about every 5-10 minutes. (Simply restart my wifi card - it randomly stops working and needs the /etc/init.d/networking restart command before its up).
[12:37] <Paavi2_0> pawan: use pidgin
[12:37] <wolfeySI> why new ubuntu kernel .22 complains boot partition is beyond 'cylinder supported by bios', .20 version works
[12:37] <wolfeySI> help please
[12:37] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to set my screen size on bootup?  it complains saying it should be set at 1024X768
[12:37] <wolfeySI> hmmm now it doesnt complain when i disable IBM recovery partition
[12:37] <wols_> Arilou: apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:37] <guyvdb_> Hi, I am trying to get a wirless network card working... it uses the RT61 driver. I read rt61pci is broken and downloaded and compiled rt61 from ralinktech. I do a modprobe --remove rt61pci and then modprobe rt61 and get error unknowen symbol pci_module_init ... any ideas?
[12:37] <gluonman> Paavi2_0, pawan, Kopete is better than Pidgin.
[12:37] <NineTeen67Comet> 0,15,30,45 * * * * /etc/init.d/networking restart .. this correct for every 15 minutes?
[12:38] <ifireball> NineTeen67Comet: that's not such a good idea
[12:38] <Arilou> wols_:thanks I¡ll try =)
[12:38] <elkbuntu> dave81, you almost sound like an ad bot :Þ
[12:38] <wols_> Arilou: I want to see the output of that
[12:38] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: might be...haven't used it
[12:38] <ifireball> NineTeen67Comet: correct syntax though, also, you probably need that in the root crontab
[12:38] <NineTeen67Comet> ifireball: I've been hacking at that box for about 2 months with no results. The drop isn't predictable and there are no errors to read through .. running a cron is about my last resort.
[12:38] <dave81> lol sory
[12:38] <gluonman> Paavi2_0, it's more capable than Pidgin.
[12:38] <g00se> ifireball: Agreed. At most, just bring the one interface back up
[12:39] <wols_> NineTeen67Comet: what driver do you use? and what chip is it?
[12:39] <ifireball> NineTeen67Comet: like g00se said, use ifdow/up to mess with just the relevant interface
[12:39] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: pidgin is the ubuntu default, so the newbies should stick to it
[12:39] <wolfeySI> shane2peru: try VGA= at boot.. (google: vga modes) ... it should be added as parameter to kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst or something
[12:39] <wolfeySI> gaim sucks
[12:39] <wolfeySI> amsn!
[12:39] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, yeah I was looking in my menu.lst and didn't see anything to change.
[12:40] <shane2peru> I have never had this problem with Ubuntu before
[12:40] <gluonman> Paavi2_0, sure, but Kopete isn't difficult for newbies. The only difference is that it's better and you have to install it.
[12:40] <Arilou> wols_: Installed (none)   Candidate: 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4.-14.20   Version table 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10 0   500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Packages
[12:40] <NineTeen67Comet> wols_: Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI .. I'm just running what Gutsy installed for it (every time I've messed with it before it hard broke, and it is about 50' from the nearest lan drop so fixing it when it breaks sux)
[12:40] <wols_> Arilou: pastebin your menu.lst
[12:40] <Paavi2_0> gluonman: right. nevermind
[12:40] <lesshaste_> anybody had any experience with openwengo?
[12:40] <g00se> NineTeen67Comet: Try and avoid even that kludge. See wols_
[12:40] <endofnite> try pidgin
[12:40] <wolfeySI> shane2peru: try adding VGA=<somenumber> at kernel line, after location of kernel
[12:40]  * NineTeen67Comet prolly autta run lsmod n see waht driver .. 
[12:41] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, ok, I will give that a try
[12:41] <dave81> !linuxvirus
[12:41] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:41] <lesshaste_> endofnite, pidgin has no voice
[12:41] <endofnite> heh
[12:41] <ifireball> NineTeen67Comet: are you maybe on a DHCPed network and running a firewall?
[12:41]  * NineTeen67Comet looks like  rt61pci
[12:41] <Arilou> wols_: Sorry you lost me, I don't know what or how to do a pastebin or what is menu.1st
[12:41] <Pici> shane2peru: wolfeySI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub for vga framebuffer modes.
[12:41] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, it should be set in the menu.lst somewhere though correct?
[12:41] <shane2peru> Pici, thanks
[12:41] <endofnite> how so lesshaste
[12:41] <NineTeen67Comet> ifireball: no .. Static IP and the only firewall is my Linksys and it is about as loose as a goose ..
[12:41] <wols_> Arilou: sorry, my bad. pastebin your sources.list
[12:42] <wols_> !paste | Arilou
[12:42] <ubotu> Arilou: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:42] <wolfeySI> shane2peru: it should be set at some kernel, that you boot
[12:42]  * NineTeen67Comet I went static to avioid having to scan for the ip everytime I wanted to ssh in ..
[12:42] <wolfeySI> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/lilo-vga-modes-152575/
[12:42] <wolfeySI> title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel...
[12:42] <wolfeySI> root...
[12:42] <gluonman> It's nap time, fellas! Be back in an hour or two.
[12:42] <wolfeySI> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.. root=
[12:43] <Fracture> my sound card is not supported by ALSA , is there anyway possible to get my souund working apart from buying a lil' USB sound card :)
[12:43]  * gluonman is away: I'm deciding to get up off my ass and do something productive for a change........... like sleep.
[12:43] <wolfeySI> see as root is some value, so you add vga=some value
[12:43] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, ok, found it, Pici, gave me a good link
[12:43] <wolfeySI> good
[12:43] <wols_> !away | gluonman
[12:43] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub  this explains it
[12:43] <ubotu> gluonman: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[12:43] <shane2peru> wolfeySI, thanks
[12:46] <snkmad> nVidia driver 169.07 will be released to gutsy, or only to hardy heron?
[12:47] <wols_> snkmad: hardy
[12:47] <uselezz> ich möchte opensuse in die menu-lst von ubuntu schreiben, aber ich weiß nich wie nie ich den befehl aus der opensuse menu.lst umschreiben kann. hilft mir bitte jemand?
[12:47] <Pici> !de | uselezz
[12:47] <ubotu> uselezz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:48] <uselezz> oh sry
[12:49] <windego40> hello
[12:49] <Arilou> wols_ I found the trouble was some settings for the updater, it's now downloading it automatically, thanks ^_^
[12:49] <windego40> anyone know how i can input the "nonempty" mount option?
[12:49] <b-real> alguien ke hable español para ayudrme a configurar evolution con hot-mail ?
[12:50] <Pici> !es | b-real
[12:50] <ubotu> b-real: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:50] <ifireball> windego40: I'm not sure there IS such and option, where did you find it?
[12:51] <g00se> windego40: -o nonempty ?
[12:51] <b-real> ubotu, por ke hablan aleman e ingles aki ? no puedo expresarme en español ?
[12:51] <windego40> ifireball: i was trying to mount my ipod touch using instructions from a forums but on the last step it says the mount point is not empty
[12:51] <mario84> hi, how do i get the groups my user belongs to?
[12:51] <mario84> from console
[12:52] <ifireball> oh, it mouns there ars some files already in the mount point
[12:52] <Pici> mario84: type `groups`
[12:52] <ifireball> oh, it means there are some files already in the mount point
[12:52] <mario84> Pici, thanks
[12:52] <ifireball> windego40: oh, it means there are some files already in the mount point
[12:52] <ifireball> windego40: what was the exact mount command you've used?
[12:53] <windego40> ifireball: iphone-mount.....dunno if that helps
[12:54] <ifireball> windego40: nope, it doesn't...
[12:54] <dave81> can any one help with networking my pc to a xbox 360?
[12:54] <ifireball> win-X-perts:  where is the mount point?
[12:55] <ifireball> windego40: where is the mount point?
[12:55] <Belisarivs> Hi all.
[12:55] <lesshaste_> why on earth is only a broken version of azureus in the standard packages for gusty gibbon and the (quite old) fixed version in backports??
[12:55] <Belisarivs> I have problem with Ubuntu. Could someone help me?
[12:55] <lesshaste_> gutsy
[12:55] <g00se> windego40: you need to find out what iphone-mount does
[12:56] <Pici> !ask | Belisarivs
[12:56] <ubotu> Belisarivs: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:56] <dave81>  Belisarivs:  ask away
[12:56] <lesshaste_> azureus 2.5.0.4 came out a long time ago
[12:56] <Belisarivs> OK
[12:56] <Pici> lesshaste_: When?
[12:57] <windego40> hhhmmm well im following the instructions from "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone" if that helps :|
[12:57] <Belisarivs> After logging in, GNOME takes ages to start when not connected to the internet.
[12:57] <windego40> im sorta new to all this
[12:57] <g00se> man iphone-mount (?) | windego40
[12:58] <Belisarivs> Also gnome apps and mc rake too much time to start.
[12:58] <lesshaste_> Pici, certainly before March 2007
[12:58] <Belisarivs> I have Core Duo notebook with 2GB RAM.
[12:58] <Belisarivs> What if I did strace of mc and upload it somewhere?
[12:59] <Pici> lesshaste_: Likely the amount of changes needed to get a newer version to work properly were too big of a task.
[12:59] <lesshaste_> Pici, any idea what is going on?  The version that comes with gutsy is basically broken
[12:59] <windego40> just says it handles the mounting basically
[12:59] <Belisarivs> Any idea?
[12:59] <ifireball> Belisarivs: its a reverse resolution problem, upload your /etc/hosts file to pastebin
[12:59] <lesshaste_> Pici, hmm.. that's odd
[12:59] <Pici> lesshaste_: But you said yourself that the one in backports is fixed.
[12:59] <lesshaste_> Pici, yes
[13:00] <micr> Hello to all !
[13:00] <lesshaste_> Pici, it was actually released in 2006 it seems!
[13:00] <ifireball> Belisarivs: what does running "hostname" on the terminal give you?
[13:00] <void> some one can write my nick
[13:00] <g00se> windego40: can't you mount it somewhere that *is* empty?
[13:00] <Pici> lesshaste_: Azureus's sourceforge page says it was released on 01/25/2007
[13:00] <micr> Hello all !
[13:00] <Belisarivs> name of my book "clibanarius"
[13:01] <lesshaste_> Pici, ok... that's still 11 months ago! :)
[13:01] <windego40> is there a command to see what is already mounted?
[13:02] <g00se> windego40: mount
[13:02] <ifireball> Belisarivs: ok, now what does "grep `hostname` /etc/hosts" give you
[13:02] <micr> I have some proble after distro upgrade to 7.10 ... I have two keyboard layouts installed , in console whene i press ctrl+something it writes with non english language...
[13:02] <micr> so i can't do ctrl+x and so on...
[13:02] <Paavi2_0> just updated kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic and now my system (7.10 amd64) refuses to boot cleanly and i get repeated error messages like: "[  98.234539] device-mapper: table: 254: 7: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed" i was able to boot cleanly and start gnome, when i selected the previous kernel on grub...what should i do?
[13:03] <Belisarivs> I'm planning to upload /etc/hosts at pastebin
[13:03] <Belisarivs> pastebin.com?
[13:03] <micr> any one have knows what cant be aproblem ?
[13:03] <chazco> Hi... my USB keyboard doesnt always work (no response from it at login screen, cant get any further without it)... any ideas?
[13:03] <Pici> Belisarivs: any pastebin os fine.
[13:03] <chazco> on 7.10
[13:03] <ifireball> !paste | Belisarivs
[13:03] <ubotu> Belisarivs: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:03] <windego40> g00se: dunno what to make of it
[13:03] <Pici> lesshaste_: I really don't have an answer for you.  I know that there was someone working on the Azeurus problems, but I dont know what the problems actually were.
[13:04] <lesshaste_> Pici, ok... it's all very odd as version 3 is the current one in any cased
[13:04] <lesshaste_> case
[13:04] <lesshaste_> which doesn't seem to have an ubuntu package at all
[13:05] <Belisarivs_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49149/
[13:05] <Belisarivs_> I switched to my notebook
[13:05] <g00se> windego40: Where are you at now
[13:05] <lesshaste_> does any repo have azureus version 3?
[13:06] <Pici> lesshaste_: Not official repo, I can't speak for 3rd party ones.
[13:06] <shane2peru> ok, I changed the line in my menu.lst and it didn't help
[13:06] <windego40> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[13:06] <lesshaste_> ok..maybe someone here knows
[13:06] <windego40> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[13:06] <windego40> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[13:06] <windego40> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[13:06] <windego40> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[13:06] <windego40> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[13:06] <windego40> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[13:06] <windego40> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[13:06] <windego40> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[13:06] <windego40> securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[13:06] <shane2peru> I added vga=ask, vga=791, vga=normal, vga=792
[13:06] <windego40> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[13:06] <shane2peru> !pastebin | windego40
[13:06] <ubotu> windego40: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:07] <windego40> sorry about that everyone
[13:07] <shane2peru> !pastebin | windego40
[13:07] <ifireball> Belisarivs_: ok, you need to change the 2nd line to: "127.0.1.1 clibanarius.doma.cz clibanarius"
[13:07] <Belisarivs_> ok
[13:07] <shane2peru> I added vga=ask, vga=791, vga=normal, vga=792 one at a time to my menu.lst, and still not working correctly at boot
[13:07] <Filled-Void> #wesnoth
[13:08] <Filled-Void> gah
[13:08] <Belisarivs_> Thanks. Is that all?
[13:08] <ifireball> Belisarivs_: I think so, try it
[13:08] <lesshaste_> does any 3rd party repo have the latest azureus?
[13:09] <Belisarivs_> OK. Thank you. I'll give it a try and teport back in several minutes.
[13:09] <ifireball> Belisarivs_: (its a complex problem with a simple solution...)
[13:09] <shane2peru> ok, back to the splash screen on bootup is not at the right size and my monitor complains
[13:09] <shane2peru> anyone have any ideas?
[13:09] <lesshaste_> hmm..no one here uses azureus?
[13:10] <arturo> nessun italiano
[13:10] <danja> anyone recognise this problem? : the network seems to work ok but every time I try to get anything it slows to a halt at about 5k bytes. Same effect wired or wireless, I think I've knobbled all the ipv6 stuff, nothing obvious in tcpdump (although I don't really know what I'm looking for)
[13:10] <arturo> ?
[13:10] <Pici> !it | arturo
[13:10] <ubotu> arturo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:10] <arturo> mi dice kad off
[13:10] <ifireball> shane2peru: the desktop itself is in the right size?
[13:10] <shane2peru> ifireball, yes, everything else works fine, this is a fresh install of Gutsy
[13:10] <Pici> shane2peru: Did those changes have any effect? Are you sure you were making them to the right grub line?
[13:11] <g00se> windego40: According to those docs you should be mounting with sshfs
[13:11] <shane2peru> Pici, no, I tried a bunch of different settings, even used vga=ask and didin't get anywhere.
[13:11] <uchazco> Hi.. on 7.10 I have to keep rebooting to get my USB keyboard to work... didnt happen on 7.04... any ideas?
[13:12] <shane2peru> Pici, I had Gutsy installed before, and didn't have a problem, then I re-installed, it doesn't work. ??
[13:12] <windego40> g00se: i just tried it using sshfs but still says mount point isnt empty
[13:12] <ifireball> shane2peru: well, one thing you can do is disable the splash screen altogether, boot with the "nosplash" parameter
[13:12] <Pici> shane2peru: What video card?
Thank you kindly. It works. Perfact.
[13:13] <g00se> windego40: Why not empty it then?
[13:13] <Belisarivs> Perfect.
[13:13] <shane2peru> ifireball, yes, I could, but it has worked on everything I have ever run it since Breezy days. :)
[13:13] <ifireball> Belisarivs: glad to help
[13:13] <shane2peru> Pici, i910 Intel
[13:13] <Pici> shane2peru: And have you done all your updates?
[13:13] <Belisarivs> May I shoot in one morequestion?
[13:13] <shane2peru> Pici, yep that was my first step.
[13:13]  * danja wonders what a polite pause is before asking again
[13:13] <ifireball> Belisarivs: shoot
[13:14] <windego40> g00se: i dont know what point im supposed to empty
[13:14] <snkmad> whats a good value for glxgears?
[13:14] <Pici> snkmad: glxgears is NOT and has never been a benchmark
[13:14] <Ward1983> is it possible to use SLI in ubuntu?+ and if not, is there an alternative?
[13:14] <danja> anyone recognise this problem? : the network seems to work ok but every time I try to get anything it slows to a halt at about 5k bytes. Same effect wired or wireless, I think I've knobbled all the ipv6 stuff, nothing obvious in tcpdump (although I don't really know what I'm looking for)
[13:14] <g00se> windego40: What  sshfs are you issuing?
[13:14] <shane2peru> Pichi, the only thing I did was backed up my installed menu.lst and replaced it with my old menu.lst because I have a bunch of stuff in there
[13:15] <guyvdb_> I am trying to setup a wirless card. I have managed to compile and install RT61 driver. I am not sure what needs to be configured. If I iwlist iface scan on my laptop i see a bunch of AP's. If i do it on my desktop... none...
[13:15] <tuna> Is there a way to set a proxy to be used systemwide by everything that supports it?
[13:15] <snkmad> Pici and thx
[13:15] <shane2peru> It worked before with a Gutsy install, same hardware, nothing else has changed.
[13:15] <Pici> shane2peru: Are you sure that you were editing the right grub line?
[13:15] <g00se> windego40: i.e. what sshfs command are you issuing?
[13:15] <windego40> g00se: its at /var/root/Media/ /media/ipod
[13:15] <tuna> I can only connect the web by proxy from one place, and looking for the settings for each individual program is a pain
[13:15] <shane2peru> yes, when I added vga=ask it asked me to pick from a list
[13:16] <Pici> shane2peru: Okay.
[13:16] <ifireball> danja: what do you mean by "try to get" ?
[13:16] <Ward1983> guyvdb_, i never had to compile drivers for my wifi cards, but are you sure that there actually are AP's in the neighbourhood?
[13:16] <Belisarivs> How to start terminals in other screens (to switch to them by Ctrl+Alt+F*). After pressing these, I could switch to another terminal. But now there is just black screen where it is impossible to log in? Is my question clear or too confusing?
[13:16] <Belisarivs> It's perhaps harder to explain.
[13:16] <shane2peru> Pici, I'm going to replace it with the original it had and reboot and see if it works with the original.
[13:16] <Pici> shane2peru: Okay, good luck
[13:16] <g00se> windego40: Try emptying /media/ipod (Backup first if you need stuff in it)
[13:16] <shane2peru> this is crazy it should work the way it is though.
[13:17] <guyvdb_> Ward1983: I have my laptop and my desktop. Wirless working in laptop and sees AP's ... desktop tying to config sees no aps
[13:17] <Pici> shane2peru: do a diff between the two files first, perhaps they are identical.
[13:17] <ifireball> Belisarivs: you press ctrl+alt+F1 and get a blank screen?
[13:17] <Ward1983> guyvdb_, no idea then, my cards allways got detected plug and play in ubuntu
[13:17] <guyvdb_> Ward1983: what needs to be set with iwconfig before you can see ap on iwlist ... scan
[13:17] <shane2peru> Pici, never used that before 'man diff' I assume will give me the idea?
[13:18] <void> some can write my nick ? (void)
[13:18] <ifireball> Belisarivs: can you get back to the graphical screen afterwards?
[13:18] <danja> void
[13:18] <Pici> void: please test your hilighting in a different channel, like #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <Ward1983> void highlighttest
[13:18] <Ward1983> lol sorry
[13:18] <Belisarivs> Yes. Without option to log in. There was usually text asking for log in. Perhaps I screwed something and I don't know how to fix it.
[13:18] <Paavi2_0> has anyone got any idea how to fix this problem?: just updated kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic and now my system (7.10 amd64) refuses to boot cleanly and i get repeated error messages like: "[  98.234539] device-mapper: table: 254: 7: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed" i was able to boot cleanly and start gnome, when i selected the previous kernel on grub...what should i do?
[13:18] <windego40> g00se: hmmm it looks like the folders has the things fromy my ipod but i dont see it mounted on my comp
[13:18] <Pici> shane2peru: It should, but You could just do a visual comparison of the kernel lines, that might be faster.
[13:18] <Belisarivs> Yes, I can go back to Xes.
[13:19] <shane2peru> pici, no, I know there are a bunch of diferences, I have commented out and kept all old installations of Suse, PCLinux OS, Gentoo, Slack etc.
[13:19] <Belisarivs> There just isn't running tty
[13:19] <osman123> hi I do new install 7.10 but first problems dns after ubuntu not install update status faild? why problems?
[13:19] <Pici> shane2peru: okay.
[13:19] <Belisarivs> Where is problem? Should be getty run on startup?
[13:19] <windego40> g00se: think a reboot will remove the mount?
[13:20] <Ward1983> guyvdb_, sorry i don't know how tot setup using iwconfig, never needed to do that
[13:20] <Pici> Belisarivs: Try `sudo modprobe vga16fb
[13:20] <Pici> Belisarivs: and sudo modprobe fbcon
[13:20] <g00se> windego40: Yes
[13:20] <osman123> I insert ubuntu cd and open after install hdd
[13:20] <windego40> g00se: brb
[13:20] <Ward1983> guyvdb_, but maybe some people can help if you pastebin the output of iwconfig (and maybe ifconfig too)
[13:20] <osman123> but it is not update packet
[13:20] <g00se> windego40: Anyway it looks like it's mounted - isn't that the objective?
[13:20] <ifireball> Belisarivs: getty is supposed to be run by init, there sould be 6 such lines in /etc/inittab
[13:21] <Belisarivs> Cool. Thanks Pici.
[13:21] <Sharpie> i messed alot with the startup services and now i just want to return it all to default, is there any reference to it or anything (so i can see how everything was by default)?
[13:21] <Pici> Belisarivs: Unfortunately, its a known issue.
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[13:21] <Belisarivs> Thanks for your time guys.
[13:22] <Pici> Sure thing.
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[13:22] <ifireball> Belisarivs: I suppose you should put those in /etc/modules then
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[13:23] <dave81> SparX_: quit it
[13:23] <_ruben> !ops
[13:23] <SparX_>  
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[13:23] <Ward1983> SparX_, can you stop doing that? its not allowed here
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[13:23] <Belisarivs> I will.
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[13:23] <Sharpie> lol
[13:23] <Sharpie> it's the A team
[13:23] <shane2peru> ok, that didn't work
[13:23] <ifireball> Belisarivs: just the module names, without the "sudo modprobe" commands...
[13:24] <IdleOne> Pici: why didnt the FloodBot's pick that up?
[13:24] <elkbuntu> Sharpie, they dont deserve attention, dont give it to them
[13:24] <shane2peru> Pici, if I remove the splash it will get rid of the splash screen correct?
[13:24] <osman123> do you know first install 7.10 net connect probe???
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[13:25] <Sharpie> i messed with the startup services and i want to return it to default, is there anywhere where i can see what the defaults are? (like an online reference)?
[13:25] <ikonia> Sharpie: download the deb and unpack it
[13:25] <ifireball> Belisarivs: just making sure. wouldn't want you hosing your system because of me ;)
[13:25] <Sharpie> ikonia: the deb of what?
[13:25] <ikonia> Sharpie: whatever you messed with
[13:26] <Belisarivs> bah, no need to worry. :)
[13:26] <Sharpie> ikonia: i just cancelled some of the services
[13:26] <shane2peru> if I delete the splash out of my menu.lst that should get rid of my boot screen thing?
[13:26] <Sharpie> ikonia: and i can't remember how it was before
[13:26] <ikonia> Sharpie: I you said you messed with them and want to see the defaults
[13:26] <ikonia> Sharpie: so download the deb and unpack it, it will contain the startup script
[13:27] <Sharpie> ikonia: but services don't come in debs >_<
[13:27] <dave81> !pm
[13:27] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:27] <ikonia> Sharpie: services ??? the daemons do
[13:27] <Belisarivs> So, all problems are gone (for now :). Thanks guys.
[13:27] <ikonia> Sharpie: eg: sshd is a deb
[13:27] <Sharpie> ikonia: i'm talking about stuff like klogd
[13:27] <Sharpie> ikonia: or sysklogd
[13:27] <ikonia> Sharpie: syslog is a package
[13:27] <ikonia> Sharpie: so download the deb for it and unpack it
[13:27] <Sharpie> ikonia: i can't just redownload everything :/
[13:27] <Ward1983> lol virtually everything is a package
[13:27] <ikonia> Sharpie: then you should have taken a backup before messing around
[13:28] <Sharpie> ikonia: isn't there like a screenshot of the defaults online somewhere? :/
[13:28] <ikonia> Sharpie: no
[13:28] <Sharpie> ikonia: sux :|
[13:28] <ikonia> Sharpie: a screen shot of every init script
[13:28] <ikonia> Sharpie: not really,
[13:28] <Sharpie> ikonia: i'm talking like, sysv-rc-conf
[13:28] <ikonia> Sharpie: why would there be a screenshot of every init script
[13:28] <roundyz__> \quit
[13:29] <ifireball> Sharpie: update-rc.d <service> defaults
[13:29] <ikonia> Sharpie: nope
[13:29] <Andycasss> how to rename???
[13:29] <ikonia> Andycasss: mv
[13:29] <Ward1983> Andycasss, on IRC or a file?
[13:29] <shane2peru> Andycasss, can you clarify that?
[13:29] <osman123> I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 but I cant connect to internet and I cant make update?Can you help abouut this problem
[13:29] <ikonia> !de | abhi
[13:29] <ubotu> abhi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:29] <ikonia> oops
[13:30] <osman123> do you know any solution  about this
[13:30] <Ward1983> osman123, but... you are... connected to the internet...
[13:30] <shane2peru> osman123, wireless , dialup, or wired?
[13:30] <osman123> wiht wired
[13:30] <patrick_> hey would this video card work with compiz? http://tinyurl.com/2mwd2m
[13:30] <osman123> adsl
[13:30] <osman123> with adsl
[13:30] <shane2peru> osman123, in a terminal run 'sudo ifup eth0'
[13:31] <shane2peru> osman123, are you connected to a router?
[13:31] <[chr0n0s]> hey, can anyone help me with installing Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Card Reader under gutsy
[13:31] <osman123> adsl modem
[13:31] <shane2peru> osman123, with dhcp I assume?
[13:31] <osman123> ı havent got router
[13:31] <shane2peru> osman123, ok, run 'sudo ifup eth0' in a terminal window.
[13:31] <Ward1983> a adsl modem sometimes has a router (and dhcp server) baked in
[13:32] <thor> [chr0n0s] you should just have to plug it in. When you insert a card it should automatically show up in the filemanager
[13:32] <osman123> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifup eth0
[13:32] <osman123> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[13:32] <Ward1983> osman123, you can get online on IRC but not with a webbrowser?
[13:33] <shane2peru> osman123, paste the results of this:  sudo ifconfig in the pastebin
[13:33] <shane2peru> !pastebin | osman123
[13:33] <ubotu> osman123: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:33] <osman123> I changed firefox ıpv 6 and I connected the internet
[13:33] <Ward1983> loool
[13:33] <shane2peru> ha ha, osman123, ok, glad you got it. :)
[13:34] <abhi> ikonia: hehe :)
[13:34] <osman123> but ubuntu does not make updates
[13:34] <Ward1983> shane2peru, if he allready was online here it was kindof impossible to be a problem with a interface
[13:34] <ikonia> abhi: sorry
[13:34] <abhi> ikonia: i speekz englizszh! :D
[13:34] <shane2peru> Ward1983, true, I figured maybe he was on another computer, but I guess if he doesn't have a router, that ain't happening
[13:34] <shane2peru> :)
[13:34] <danja> ok, let me preface this with a "pretty please":
[13:35] <danja> anyone recognise this problem? : the network seems to work ok but every time I try to get anything it slows to a halt at about 5k bytes. Same effect wired or wireless, I think I've knobbled all the ipv6 stuff, nothing obvious in tcpdump (although I don't really know what I'm looking for)
[13:35] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[13:35] <osman123> I wanna do updetes but not succesed
[13:35] <ikonia> danja: your isp ?
[13:35] <danja> telecom italia
[13:35] <Ward1983> shane2peru, i thought that first too
[13:35] <Paavi2_0> i have a problem with newest kernel (doesn't work/boot correctly). can anybody help me?
[13:35] <danja> I've got a win2k machine (this one) running through the same router ok
[13:35] <[chr0n0s]> thor, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49155/
[13:35] <rysiek|pl> what virtual machine/virtualization technique would you suggest to use on a Ubuntu server (i.e. no GUI, pure command-line system)
[13:35] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: define doesn't work
[13:35] <[chr0n0s]> hey, can anyone help me with installing Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Card Reader under gutsy, some info -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49155/
[13:36] <bascule> dangan`: firewall issues?
[13:36] <dangan> kinda
[13:36] <osman123> synaptic maneger gave fail
[13:36] <bascule> danja: ^^
[13:36] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: can you be more expecific?
[13:36] <bascule> sorry dangan :)
[13:36] <osman123> shane2 peru do you know any solution
[13:36] <danja> bascule, where do I look? both this machine and the ubuntu one should be connecting the same
[13:36] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: you said your new kernel doesn't work, in what way
[13:37] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: just updated kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic and now my system (7.10 amd64) refuses to boot cleanly and i get repeated error messages like: "[  98.234539] device-mapper: table: 254: 7: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed" i was able to boot cleanly and start gnome, when i selected the previous kernel on grub
[13:37] <membrive> danja you have the problem all the time?
[13:37] <bascule> danja: is it the same on both machines or just ubuntu?
[13:37] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: are you using any fakeraid partitions
[13:37] <danja> bascule, this winxp machine works fine
[13:38] <arturo> o
[13:38] <danja> bascule, the ubuntu one e.g. loads half a page in FF then stops
[13:38] <arturo> italiano
[13:38] <ikonia> !it > arturo
[13:38] <bascule> danja: so it is probably firewall, maybe not, try iptables -F
[13:38] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: i'm sorry, i don't know...how can i check that? the previous kernel worked just fine :/
[13:38] <arturo> ikonia per andare nella parte in italiano
[13:38] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: is this a dual boot machine ?
[13:39] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: no
[13:39] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: lvm ?
[13:40] <osman123> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[13:40] <osman123> Err http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg
[13:40] <danja>  bascule, iptables -F returns nothing, no change in problem
[13:40] <osman123>   Could not connect to tr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (110 Connection timed out)
[13:40] <osman123> Err http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-tr
[13:40] <osman123>   Could not connect to tr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (110 Connection timed out)
[13:40] <osman123> Err http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Translation-tr
[13:40] <osman123>   Could not connect to tr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (110 Connection timed out)
[13:40] <osman123> 0% [Connecting to tr.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]
[13:41] <ifireball> danja: did you run that with "sudo" ?
[13:41] <bascule> danja: weird, what about wget, does it stop dead too? wget http://www.1clickcd.com/upload_files/mixupload/file-44416-1196690443.mp3
[13:41] <danja>  I sudo bash'd first
[13:41] <_ruben> 1.0.0.0 ? that doesnt look well
[13:41] <Arilou> !wine
[13:41] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:41] <danja> wget starts working, gets to about 5k then slows to a halt
[13:41] <bascule> danja: sure, sudo  was needed
[13:42] <osman123> how to change or modify
[13:42] <bascule> danja: crazy
[13:42] <osman123> or fix it problem
[13:42] <ifireball> danja: working through a router?
[13:42] <danja> bascule, the root cause may well be router weirdness -
[13:43] <bascule> osman123: add new/different sources using synaptc
[13:43] <danja> ifireball, yes
[13:43] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: mdadm running, don't know about lvm though, might be...
[13:43] <kakoonia> hey
[13:43] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: ok, so do you have a raid array
[13:43] <ifireball> danja: ok. do you know which network interface you're using?
[13:43] <bascule> danja: could be, I have seen dhcp fail for no reason on some routers
[13:43] <Ward1983> is there a bot that i can query to see when someone was last online in the channel?
[13:44] <ifireball> bascule: it may be an MTU problem
[13:44] <osman123> how to it
[13:44] <bascule> ifireball: never thought of that, seen MTU break SSL
[13:44] <danja> bascule, I get the same effect giving the machine a static ip :-(
[13:44] <osman123> I beginner
[13:44] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: so it's raid problem :( what can i do? (anything else that removing/outcommenting the lines for newest kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst?)
[13:45] <ifireball> danja: run "ifconfig" see that is the MTU value for your network interface
[13:45] <kakoonia> ive got a sound problem, i think its because i installed a kernel update, suddenly my sound card device name, disappeared from the sound propeties menu.. now i cant hear nothing, i was wondering if someone can help me out with updating the module back again.. with modprobe.. if thats the solution needed in this situation?
[13:45] <Pici> Ward1983: If the person is registered you can do `/msg nickserv info username`  But thats just for last time they were on Freenode. We dont have anything on a channel by channel basis.
[13:45] <Killerpope> does anybody know why ubuntu 7.10 amd64 wont install on my laptop (acer aspire 5920 with Intel 64 Core 2 Duo T7300)?
[13:45] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: are you running a raid array
[13:45] <^sa^> hello. i need help for the configuration of my wlan
[13:45] <rudihawk> killerpope - what error do you get?
[13:45] <Pici> osman123: Go to System>Administration>Software Sources
[13:45] <rudihawk> ^sa^ shoot :P
[13:46] <danja> ifireball, MTU is 1500 on both i/fs I've been using
[13:46] <Paavi2_0> Killerpope: its _amd_ 64, your laptop is _intel_
[13:46] <Ward1983> Pici, so nothing if they're not registered? (i ran into someone who askedabout linux yesterday, promised him i would try to bed here)
[13:46] <Ward1983> want to make sure i didnt miss him
[13:46] <^sa^> the problem is that i tried to do almost anything
[13:46] <^sa^> but the solution must be very simple
[13:46] <Killerpope> Paavi2_0: on ubuntu.com it says that it's for 64 bit processors of amd and intel
[13:46] <Pici> Killerpope: Paavi2_0: AMD64 install will work on any CPU that is EMT64 compatible.
[13:46] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: i only have one sata-disk attached
[13:46] <^sa^> because on live cd wireless works so fine
[13:46] <bascule> danja: can you check the MTU on the router?
[13:46] <ifireball> danja: ok, we need some host you can ping, do you know the address for your ISPs home page?
[13:46] <Pici> Killerpope: Which is practically all consumer 64bit cpus.
[13:46] <Killerpope> rudihawk: my screen simply shuts down
[13:46] <osman123> pici open it what do now
[13:47] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: so why is mdadm running
[13:47] <xjdriver69> !gpg
[13:47] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[13:47] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: no idea, puzzles me
[13:47] <^sa^> rudihawk you read?
[13:47] <Pici> osman123: From the 'download from' box, pick 'other' then find your country and any listing under that.
[13:47] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: please put the boot lines of your menu.lst in a pastebin
[13:47] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: ok
[13:48] <danja> ifireball, now pinging what I think is the isps homepage
[13:48] <osman123> pici: Download from sever for türkiye
[13:48] <^sa^> can anybody help?
[13:48] <ifireball> danja: ok, stop it, do you get any packet loss?
[13:48] <danja> 203ms-ish (on the win machine it measured about 300 kbs)
[13:48] <osman123> Change it?
[13:49] <danja> ifireball, 0 packet loss
[13:49] <Pici> osman123: Change it to something else then, perhaps some other close country's server.
[13:49] <ifireball> danja: the times arn't that important right now
[13:49] <ifireball> danja: ok, now ping with "-s 1500"
[13:49] <Pici> !wifi | ^sa^
[13:49] <ubotu> ^sa^: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:49] <osman123> pici: ı select other and click best server waiting now
[13:49] <^sa^> the problem is pici that on live cd works without doing anything
[13:50] <^sa^> and i already tried any solution....
[13:50] <^sa^> installing winxp driver,
[13:50] <danja> ifireball "ping -s 1500 208.69.32.139"
[13:50] <danja> not responding!
[13:50] <danja> 55 transmitted, 100% loss
[13:50] <ifireball> danja: I'm right ^^;;
[13:51] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  you did compare what modules the live cd is loading with what modules the Installed version is using?
[13:51] <bascule> ifireball: top marks :)
[13:51] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49159/
[13:51] <ifireball> danja: now try with, say, 1400
[13:51] <danja> ifireball, yup, that respond
[13:51] <^sa^> yes somebody suggested it in ubuntu-it
[13:51] <GSF1200S_> I hardly use compiz, but this is getting aggravating.. hehe
[13:51] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: nevermind the rt-kernel
[13:51] <Killerpope> the funny thing is that x86 live cd works perfectly, but on amd64 i get a blank screen
[13:51] <Nocturn> Hi guys
[13:51] <danja> 0% loss so far
[13:51] <^sa^> if you want dr_willis i can paste
[13:52] <ifireball> danja: ok, you need to play with the numbers until you find the point between 1400 and 1500 where it stops working
[13:52] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: what the heck is going on in there
[13:52] <Nocturn> Anyone know how to close a DVD session that was not closed properly?
[13:52] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: you have like 20 kernels !
[13:52] <Nocturn> it happened with a crashed DVD recorder (a box, not a PC)
[13:52] <danja> ok (nice problem recognition!)
[13:52] <ifireball> danja: do you know the "lion in the desert"?
[13:52] <^sa^> Dr_Willis do you want to read the differences?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,   just use diff on the output of the live cd's file and the installed cd's file and compare the modules loaded. Load any that are not in the list of both setuos. Is all ic an tell ya. I dont use wireless any more. good luck.
[13:52] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: my parents computer, i do only the most necessary maintenance :)
[13:53] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: why is there 3 distros and about 20 kernels on it ?
[13:53] <ip00n> if i install 7.04 desktop now, is it easy to upgrade to 7.10?
[13:53] <ip00n> and what is the difference?
[13:53] <bryan_w[wkr]> Why not just install 7.10?
[13:53] <Dr_willis> ip00n,  install 7.10 if you can.
[13:53] <^sa^> so you mean i gotta install all the packs not installed and that runs on the live cd?
[13:53] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: i'm lazy, ain't i?
[13:53] <ip00n> but then i have to download 7.10 :(
[13:53] <ifireball> danja: (while you play with the numbers I'll find where to you configure the MTU value exactly...)
[13:53] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: thats very scrappy
[13:53] <ikonia> ip00n: you'll have to download it if you upgrade
[13:53] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: which kernel is failing to boot
[13:53] <ip00n> oh, right. :p
[13:53] <RantingHuman> is there some program that adds a number to the file names in a directory depending on their modification date?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  the Modules, are in the kernel. there souldent be any extra installing, just 'sudo modprobe whatevermoduleisnotgettingloaded'
[13:54] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: the both 2.6.22-14s
[13:54] <danja> ifireball, thanks - 1464 ok, 1465 0%
[13:54] <^sa^> i dont know how to do...
[13:54] <^sa^> -_-
[13:54] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: can you try booting one of them in single user mode
[13:54] <^sa^> cant i use synaptic?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  lsmod on the live cd, lsmod on the isntalled cd. save output from both commands to 2 files, compare the 2 files.
[13:54] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: 2.6.20 works fine...
[13:54] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  loading Modules has Nothing todo with the package manager.
[13:54] <GSF1200S_> can someone tell me what may compiz to do this, but only sometimes...
[13:55] <GSF1200S_> http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot19eg7.jpg
[13:55] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: can you boot one of the 22's in single user mode
[13:55] <kakoonia> ive got a sound problem, i think its because i installed a kernel update, suddenly my sound card device name, disappeared from the sound propeties menu.. now i cant hear nothing, i was wondering if someone can help me out with updating the module back again.. with modprobe.. if thats the solution needed in this situation?
[13:55] <ip00n> omg, its gonna take 40 minutes to dl 7.10 :( what on earth will i do meanwhile?
[13:55] <^sa^> so i do it on hd and then when i run the live cd
[13:55] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  for example 'sudo modprobe emu10k1_gp' loads my soundcard module.
[13:55] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: i'll try now
[13:55] <^sa^> i see
[13:55] <^sa^> well i can try...
[13:55] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  boot live cd. 'sudo lsmod > /media/WHEVER/livecd.module.list'
[13:56] <Dr_willis> ^sa^,  boot installed Disrto 'sudo lsmod > /media/WHEVER/installed.module.list'
[13:56] <cabrioleur> kakoonia, what's you sound card?
[13:56] <ifireball> danja: go into /etc/network/interfaces
[13:56] <Sgt> hello everyone
[13:56] <Dr_willis> ^sa^, then compare the 2 files.
[13:56] <troythetechguy> My current kernel is (Linux debian 2.6.18-5-486 ).  When I run apt-get update/upgrade, I'm told the following package will be upgraded, " linux-image-2.6.18-5-486"  Is this not already installed?
[13:56] <^sa^> how?
[13:56] <ikonia> troythetechguy: this is ubuntu support, not debian
[13:57] <danja> iifireball, ok I'm in interfaces
[13:57] <ifireball> danja: add "mtu 1464" line to the lines configuring your interface (assuming you're not using DHCP)
[13:57] <Sgt> Is anyone familiar with the error message: "Unable to allocate resources in region 7" during boot?
[13:57] <marex_v2> is it possible that formating a drive from ntfs to ext3 could make you loose 30GB of free space? I mean a friend of mine formated his drive from ntfs to ext3. he claims that the real size of the drive would be 464Gbyte ("500GB") but with ext3 its only 434GB. ntfs gives him the full space.
[13:57] <^sa^> and i have to do it once? once i install the right thing i dont have to do it anymore, right?
[13:57] <a514> Hi the window border disappears when i use compiz, how do i fix it.
[13:57] <Dr_willis> marex_v2,  5% is 'reserved' by default. that can be changed with the
[13:57] <Dr_willis> marex_v2,  tune2fs command.
[13:57] <bascule> marex_v2: it reserve 5% look at tune2fs
[13:58] <bascule> Dr_willis: heh :)
[13:58] <danja> ifireball, ok - reboot?
[13:58] <Dr_willis> marex_v2,  thers also rounding issues - with HOW you look at the sizes of the disks.
[13:58] <ifireball> danja: nope
[13:58] <danja> er, networking restart?
[13:58] <ifireball> danja: yep
[13:58] <marex_v2> Dr_willis, ah thanks that reserving issue might be the problem :)
[13:58] <ifireball> danja: then confirm it was set properly with "ifconfig"
[13:59] <Sgt> Is anyone familiar with the error message: "Unable to allocate resources in region 7" during boot?
[13:59] <marex_v2> what are that 5% for anyway?
[13:59] <a514> Hi When i enable Compiz the window border does not show
[13:59] <bascule> Sgt: see it all the time, apic issue AFAIK, not a problem
[13:59] <Dr_willis> marex_v2,  space for the fsck to recover lost/found files mainly I think
[13:59] <cabrioleur> a514, install emerald or use metacity window manager
[14:00] <a514> thanks cab i read about that
[14:00] <Sgt> thanks bascule, but it takes about 2-3 minutes for my system to boot up.....which doesn't seem normal at all
[14:00] <bascule> Dr_willis: also for forced boots with 0 space on the drive which linux hates
[14:00] <marex_v2> Dr_willis, ok thanks for your help :)
[14:01] <Dr_willis> bascule,  try it with windows see what happens. :)
[14:01] <bascule> Sgt: is it right at the start prior to boot splash?
[14:01]  * Dr_willis waits patiently for 1 TB hds to get under $100
[14:01] <Sgt> Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by boot splash?
[14:01] <bascule> Dr_willis: never seen it on either actually, but linux needs to log or it won't start
[14:01] <a514> I think this irc channel should be on by default in pidgin
[14:01] <bascule> Sgt: the ubuntu logo with the bar moving
[14:02] <brobostigon> a514: thats a good idea.
[14:02] <Sgt> I don't see that at all...
[14:02] <bascule> Sgt: then something is wrong
[14:02] <a514> Hey cab what is the default window manager for 7.10
[14:02]  * danja has to do a little fiddling - was on the /other/ interface...
[14:02] <Sgt> After that message, the screen is blank (where the delay takes place), then finally I'm promted with the logon
[14:02] <brobostigon> a514, if its ubuntu then gnome
[14:02] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: both kernels' recovery modes just gave same device lookup error messages
[14:03] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: 2.6.22-14-generic & 2.6.22-14-rt
[14:03] <ikonia> Petrov_: add "single" to the end of the kernel boot line (not recovery mode) and boot it, please also get the exact error
[14:04] <bascule> Sgt: try removing the splash screen from boot, in grub
[14:04] <todobg> when we get vlc 0.8.6d in ubuntu ???
[14:04]  * bascule doesn't know how to do this from the esc option at start up
[14:04] <kakoonia> cabrioleur: my sound card is AC97 high definition or something like that
[14:04] <paulo-falcao> can anyone help me with amarok in ubuntu 7.10?
[14:04] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: what the matter ?
[14:04] <paulo-falcao> no sound
[14:04] <paulo-falcao> since update
[14:05] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: ? ok that stuff matters
[14:05] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: you use alsamixer?
[14:05] <paulo-falcao> ??
[14:05] <paulo-falcao> i m a newbie in linux
[14:05] <Sgt> Bascule: Do this in the boot menu? Or is there a way to access this in Gnome?
[14:05] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: ok. no problem. open an terminal and type in alsamixer
[14:05] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: open an console
[14:06] <paulo-falcao> ok
[14:06] <paulo-falcao> a window with bars
[14:06] <bascule> Sgt: not from gnome, using grub, either menu.lst or on the escape menu at startup
[14:06] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: line beginning with "kernel"..?
[14:06] <ikonia> yes
[14:06] <Sgt> OK, thanks bascule.  Hopefully, I won't be back  :)
[14:07] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: whatever you mean by bars. its an black window with an prompt an you can type something.
[14:07] <paulo-falcao> no after typing alsamixer appears a window with bars :)
[14:07] <todobg> amarok>settings>engine> ...put alsa
[14:08] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: ah yes. thats it
[14:08] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: you can also try what todobg tells you
[14:08] <intelikey> is there any good use for a fritz chip?     or is (evil)DRM  all they are good for ?
[14:08] <TwigEther> Hi all - I'm trying to download the source to mpd using "apt-get source mpd", am getting (13 Permission denied) error... any clues?
[14:08] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: that only differs from recovery mode by quiet and splash :o
[14:09] <paulo-falcao> ??
[14:09] <Paavi2_0> then
[14:09] <flokuehn> paulo-falcao: what kind of soundcard do you use. onboard card or extra card ?
[14:09] <ikonia> thats finbe
[14:09] <paulo-falcao> onboard
[14:09] <Paavi2_0> TwigEther: add "sudo" in front of that
[14:09] <paulo-falcao> acer Aspire 5610
[14:09] <TwigEther> Paavi2_0: yeah, I was already doing that :)
[14:09] <flokuehn> ok. this is the whole machine eh?
[14:09] <ifireball> intelikey: they can be used for secure computing, but I havn't heard of such implementation yet..
[14:09] <a514> Hi i want to install KDE debs from the Kubuntu 7.10 cdrom to the synaptic repository. Will it work?
[14:10] <danja> ifireball, ok I made the mtu change, I *think* it's reduced the amount of the page I'm getting through - hard to tell, it was a planet blog and someone else has posted :-( I tried reducing the value a bit more and the got dns errors
[14:10] <TwigEther> Paavi2_0: hm, looks like the mirror I'm using doesn't actually have that package
[14:10] <KinPumpkinKing> I've installed kubuntu-desktop and didn't like it. So I formatted my PC. When I installed Ubuntu again these errors kept happening: systemlocks, session closing and programs closing out of the blue. help, please?
[14:10] <chazco> Hi... since the flash plugin is broken how can I install it manually?
[14:10] <paulo-falcao> have to go now
[14:10] <Paavi2_0> TwigEther: why are you trying to get the source anyway, why don't you just install the binaries?
[14:10] <paulo-falcao> will be back at night
[14:11] <TwigEther> Paavi2_0: I need to rebuild the mpd package to add libsamplerate support
[14:11] <intelikey> ifireball hmmm,  ok.   seems this box has hardware i don't want/like/need and lacks hardware i feel that it should have like a thermal sensor for the cpu
[14:11] <cabrioleur> chazco, download it from adobe website
[14:11] <TwigEther> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/ <-- source packages ought to be here, no?
[14:12] <Paavi2_0> TwigEther: ok. sorry, you just have to google for sources, there might not be any sources for that in ubuntu repos
[14:12] <TwigEther> ah
[14:12] <TwigEther> That's a bit of a pain :)
[14:12] <TwigEther> Oh well. Cheers :)
[14:12] <ifireball> danja: now that is weird... souldn't give you DNS trouble in any case... are you seeing the right value in ifconfig?
[14:13] <Paavi2_0> i'll get out ->
[14:13] <todobg> where can i found howto create shotdown button in desktop ?
[14:13] <ifireball> danja: can you try the wget test again?
[14:13] <Lacrymology> ok, I'm tired of this. I upgraded to gutsy, and my sound won't work. I want back until the new kernels are released, how do I do this?
[14:13] <SoLe> hi there
[14:14] <Lacrymology> or at the very least, how do I get a 2.6.20 kernel?
[14:14] <Dr_willis> Lacrymology,  you sure its a kernel issue and not an alsa issue?
[14:14] <KinPumpkinKing> I've installed kubuntu-desktop and didn't like it. So I formatted my PC. When I installed Ubuntu again these errors kept happening: systemlocks, session closing and programs closing out of the blue. help, please?
[14:15] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, you can just download kernel for 7.04 and install it manually with dpkg.
[14:15] <Dr_willis> You could try instaling the latest alsa from source, may be a bug. Well off to work.. byess.
[14:15] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, or you can figure out the problem with the card :-)
[14:15] <Lacrymology> cabrioleur: it's a known issue
[14:15] <besquare> hi'ya mates
[14:15] <danja> ifireball, gotta go eat, but thanks a million - the issue is a "Black Hole router", right? I should be ok from here
[14:15] <ifireball> Lacrymology: maybe the 2.20 kernel is still installed? do you have it in /boot ?
[14:15] <Lacrymology> apparently it gets fixed installing alsa 1.0.15, but alsa-project's ftp and my ISP are not getting along
[14:16] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, yeah, I had a couple of them. And there _is_ a solution for everything.
[14:16] <Lacrymology> ifireball: no, it's not
[14:16] <moldy> hi
[14:16] <Lacrymology> anyways
[14:16] <ifireball> danja: probably, I'm quite convinced it have to do with mtu though
[14:17] <danja> boo, wget still running out at below 5k
[14:17] <Lacrymology> apparently INTEL chipset support is not enabled for the newest kernel, and I'm tired of looking. I'm quite positive it's a kernel issue
[14:17] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, make menuconfig? :-D
[14:17] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, I know your problem
[14:18] <besquare> lspci
[14:18] <besquare> modprobe
[14:18] <besquare> !
[14:18] <Lacrymology> besquare: that for me?
[14:18] <Lacrymology> I've already done all that time and again
[14:18] <besquare> if you like
[14:18] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, add "options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo" to alsa-base file and reload snd-hda-intel module.
[14:18] <minus> Does anyone know a GOOD wlan connectivityprogram? nm-applet sucks!
[14:19] <Lacrymology> cabrioleur: where's that alsa-base file?
[14:19] <besquare> tried installing kmixer?
[14:19] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, /etc/modprobe.d/
[14:19] <Lacrymology> besquare: not going to help. aplay dies horribly
[14:19] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, I have slackware so I cannot confirm.
[14:20] <cabrioleur> mindframe_, wifiradar
[14:20] <ifireball> cabrioleur: I confirm
[14:22] <Lacrymology> cabrioleur:
[14:22] <Lacrymology> cabrioleur: aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such device
[14:22] <cabrioleur> My connection is so slow that I cannot load google :-D
[14:22] <a514> Hi i d/led a emerald theme imported it but does not list it?
[14:23] <KinPumpkinKing> I've installed kubuntu-desktop and didn't like it. So I formatted my PC. When I installed Ubuntu again these errors kept happening: systemlocks, session closing and programs closing out of the blue. help, please? My cpu is onboard...
[14:23] <brobostigon> KinPumpkinKing: no idea,sorry.
[14:23] <cabrioleur> Lacrymology, does lspci | grep hda gives you something? Or cat /dev/soundstat?
[14:23] <KinPumpkinKing> brobostigon, thanks anyway D=
[14:24] <silverhawk_184> can someone please help me install my ati driver, ive followed this tut. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide but i cant get all of the fglrx modules, here is my current modules http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49162/
[14:24] <Lacrymology> cabrioleur: nope
[14:24] <Lacrymology> /dev/soundstat doesn't exist
[14:24] <asterisk2216> any hope to when flash will be back again?
[14:24] <brobostigon> KinPumpkinKing: could be a hardware problem, as you tootally replaced all software
[14:24] <KinPumpkinKing> silverhawk_184, if you want to install your video driver, you can just run Envy
[14:25] <asterisk2216> ....or if it possible to go around it and download the correct flashplugin some other way?
[14:25] <Lacrymology> no
[14:25] <Lacrymology> envy is evil!
[14:25] <Pici> !envy | KinPumpkinKing silverhawk_184
[14:25] <ubotu> KinPumpkinKing silverhawk_184: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[14:25] <Toolmakr> Hello !!!!
[14:25] <KinPumpkinKing> Pici, I used envy and it worked just fine :3
[14:25] <asterisk2216> hello toolmakr.
[14:25] <Lacrymology> KinPumpkinKing: you were very lucky
[14:25] <Pici> !wfm | KinPumpkinKing please read
[14:25] <ubotu> KinPumpkinKing please read: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[14:26] <silverhawk_184> thanks, wow, that looks easy, should i remove all the changes i had made via the tut
[14:26] <bazhang> KinPumpkinKing: bad idea--it may come back to bite you
[14:26] <KinPumpkinKing> Pici, fine, I won't :3
[14:26] <KinPumpkinKing> I thought it was a good idea, really
[14:26] <pete1> hi all
[14:26] <KinPumpkinKing> oh, well.
[14:26] <Toolmakr> Can someone tell me if there are file sharing scripts I can use on Gnome X-chat ?
[14:27] <KinPumpkinKing> Pici, oh, and restricted manager didn't do a good job for me :3
[14:27] <a514> Hi How do i select emerald as the window manager?
[14:27] <pete1> can someone help with scanner install on ubuntu 7.10 ? printer is working perfectly, but xsane cant find scanner
[14:28] <Lacrymology> ok, screw this
[14:28] <Lacrymology> I think I'm saving my ~ and doing a fresh install
[14:28] <machososjon> hello all
[14:28] <Lacrymology> of ubuntu, too, Kubuntu not likey
[14:28] <andreassssssssss> hello i have a question
[14:29] <bazhang> andreas what is it?
[14:29] <machososjon> does anyone know what i can do to enable my visual effect and not run into the issue with getting a white terminal screen and not getting the minimize option on my windows?
[14:29] <andreassssssssss> i am trying to get mprictures from my memory stick but i dont know how
[14:29] <andreassssssssss> I placed it in my Dell laptop, but i cant find it anywhere, so what should i do?
[14:30] <ifireball> machososjon: buy more video memory :P
[14:30] <andreassssssssss> anybody?
[14:31] <Pici> andreassssssssss: patience.
[14:31] <slestak> anyone good with find syntax that can tell me how to skip files that begin with an underscore?  I've looked at the man page, but I'm missing it so far.
[14:31] <^sa^> help please
[14:32] <machososjon> any one have an idea of where to begin to search for some more help with compiz?
[14:32] <KinPumpkinKing> ^sa^, name your problem... :p
[14:32] <^sa^> sudo modprobe iwlwifi_rc80211_simple
[14:32] <^sa^> FATAL: Error inserting iwlwifi_rc80211_simple (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/iwlwifi/mac80211/origin/net/mac80211/iwlwifi_rc80211_simple.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[14:32] <^sa^> i was pasting sorry
[14:32] <slestak> machososjon: #ubuntu-effects maybe
[14:32] <^sa^> the problem is about my wifi
[14:32] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion machososjon
[14:33] <Lacrymology> slestak: have you tried find . ! -name _*
[14:33] <machososjon> thank u both!
[14:34] <^sa^> anybody knows what i can do for my problem about wifi?
[14:34] <^sa^> on live cd it works!
[14:34] <andreassssssssss> ANYBODY?
[14:34] <^sa^> on installed ubuntu not
[14:34] <bazhang> ^sa^: learn to do pastebin :}
[14:34] <a514> How do i use emerald window manager as default
[14:34] <silverhawk_184> with envy i get the error "ENVY ERROR: ATI's legacy driver does not support your operating system" i am on ubuntu 7.10
[14:34] <slestak> Lacrymology: I tried find ./ -print ! -name "_*" , withthe double quotes and that didnt work.  let me try your version.
[14:34] <^sa^> it was 3 lines. sorry i thought there was no need
[14:34] <Pici> silverhawk_184: Envy is not supported.
[14:35] <Pici> silverhawk_184: And I had the bot give you that before.
[14:35] <bazhang> !envy > silverhawk_184
[14:35] <chazco> Hi...Can anyone tell me how to create a bluetooth PAN / NAP on Gusty?
[14:35] <chazco> (hosted on Gusty, not connect to)
[14:35] <silverhawk_184> (09:24:44 AM) KinPumpkinKing: silverhawk_184, if you want to install your video driver, you can just run Envy
[14:35] <Pici> silverhawk_184: See ~9:25
[14:35] <bicz> anyone know if i'm able to play music from itunes? i'm on 7.10
[14:36] <Lacrymology> slestak: find . ! -name _* -print should work
[14:36] <slestak> Lacrymology: nah, quotes required, barks about Missing conjunction without them.
[14:36] <bazhang> bicz: on linux itunes is not available
[14:36] <cabrioleur> bicz, encrypted?
[14:36] <Pici> !itunes | bicz
[14:36] <ubotu> bicz: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[14:36] <silverhawk_184> thanks
[14:36] <Lacrymology> slestak: find . ! -name _* -print works for me....
[14:36] <bicz> cabrioleur: yes i think i see the cursor go, but no music
[14:37] <bicz> !players
[14:37] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[14:37] <Lacrymology> slestak: find . ! -name "_*" -print works too
[14:37] <klyk> My box was shut down with the power button. When I try to restart it says 'Kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)' But I didn't do anything to the kernel.. is this fixable?
[14:37] <andreassssssssss> i am trying to get mprictures from my memory stick but i dont know how.... anybody knows?
[14:37] <machososjon> ok i tried the other suggested channels
[14:37] <machososjon> and nothing so far
[14:37] <machososjon> any other ideas for help with compiz?
[14:37] <bicz> Pici: i have only one track to play, one friend give me :|
[14:38] <Lacrymology> slestak: unless your expression is longer
[14:38] <Pici> bicz: Its an mp3 file?
[14:38] <Pici> bicz: or mp4?
[14:38] <Pici> !codecs | bicz
[14:38] <ubotu> bicz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:39] <KinPumpkinKing> silverhawk_184, everyone here advised against it
[14:39] <slestak> Lacrymology: it works until I pipe it into xargs grep.  then it searches all files.  crap.  With my db app, source code and binary executables are in the same dir so my grep is hitting binaries.
[14:39] <poningru_> ^sa^, whats wrong?
[14:39] <bicz> Pici: it was m4p, my friend convert to mp3 with her "applentosh" but still not playng on VLC, gxine kaffeine
[14:39] <^sa^> help please i got an error installing iwlwifi_rc80211_simple
[14:39] <KinPumpkinKing> silverhawk_184, try something else before using envy :P
[14:39] <Pici> bicz: Can you play other mp3 files?
[14:39] <^sa^> it does not allow me to use my wifi
[14:39] <^sa^> but on live cd it work
[14:39] <^sa^> works
[14:40] <bicz> pici yeop ssure
[14:40] <poningru_> ^sa^, did it work on the live cd without any config?
[14:40] <^sa^> yes
[14:40] <poningru_> ^sa^, what wifi card do you have?
[14:40] <bicz> Pici:  i think i need codec but i dont know if exist :)
[14:40] <Pici> bicz: Then I dont know, sorry. It should 'just work' then.
[14:40] <bicz> Pici: i know tnx anyway
[14:40] <Pici> bicz: Perhaps try with totem and see if it suggests that you need other codecs
[14:41] <bicz> Pici: ok i will now i'm@work
[14:41] <Pici> ^sa^: What 'doesnt work' about it?
[14:41] <slestak> klyk: is your machine an AMD athlon 64 ?
[14:41] <klyk> no
[14:41] <klyk> Intel
[14:42] <slestak> klyk: ok.  i had that message a lot with an A64 machine.  never quite figured it out.
[14:42] <gorilla3d> anyone know how to program run at startup?
[14:42] <Pici> gorilla3d: bootup or startup (login)?
[14:43] <^sa^> back
[14:43] <^sa^> sorry
[14:43] <gorilla3d> Pici: um.. startup I guess
[14:44] <Pici> !startup | gorilla3d
[14:44] <ubotu> gorilla3d: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[14:44] <^sa^> poningru i'll check what's my wificard
[14:45] <^sa^> Gemtek WL-850FJx
[14:45] <gorilla3d> Pici: ah thanks
[14:45] <^sa^> i'm getting mad by trying to make it work
[14:46] <poningru_> ^sa^, do an lspci -vv
[14:46] <poningru_> and search for you wifi card
[14:46] <minus_> Hi.. My WLAN NIC is running in 802.11a mode, and I want it to run in 802.11b or g mode. How do I change the mode?
[14:47] <poningru_> go into applications->terminal
[14:47] <poningru_> err applications->accessories->terminal
[14:47] <^sa^> network controller?
[14:47] <poningru_> yes
[14:48] <^sa^> Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)
[14:48] <kirrie> hello guys!
[14:48] <kirrie> check http://www.gnome-dock.org/ out
[14:48] <kirrie> what's wrong with that domain stuff?
[14:48] <gorilla3d> kirrie: >.>
[14:48] <Pici> kirrie: Check out #ubuntu-offtopic, this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[14:48] <Vad3> How can I tell which process is using my harddrive? It's making my laptop be really slow.
[14:48] <kirrie> sorry.
[14:49] <poningru_> ^sa^, hmm yeah that should just work out of the box
[14:49] <poningru_> like in the live cd
[14:49] <poningru_> when did it stop working?
[14:49] <poningru_> Vad3, lsof
[14:49] <^sa^> since i installed ubuntu
[14:49] <poningru_> !prism
[14:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <Pici> ^sa^: When its 'not working' what exactly is wrong? do you see it in iwconfig?
[14:50] <poningru_> ^sa^, can you do an iwconfig in the terminal
[14:50] <^sa^> done
[14:50] <poningru_> what do you get?
[14:51] <^sa^> can i past it in private?
[14:51] <poningru_> just pastebin it dude
[14:51] <poningru_> !pastebin
[14:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:51] <[chr0n0s]> hey, can anyone help me with installing Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Card Reader under gutsy, some info -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49155/
[14:51] <poningru_> highlight the stuff in the terminal and just middle click it into the browser
[14:52] <poningru_> as in hover your mouse over where you want to paste and middle click
[14:52] <poningru_> or in the terminal you can copy by doing ctrl+shift+c
[14:52] <^sa^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49165/plain/
[14:53] <poningru_> ^sa^, ok that means it is detected
[14:53] <poningru_> can you do a dmesg in the terminal and pastebin that
[14:53] <^sa^> ok
[14:53] <Pici> poningru_: I would think he just needs to set an essid name
[14:53] <poningru_> Pici, no my guess is firmware
[14:53] <Yancho> can ubuntu for 64bit run on dual core t7200?
[14:53] <poningru_> i.e http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30445.html
[14:53] <^sa^> it's so long
[14:53] <poningru_> Yancho, yes
[14:54] <poningru_> ^sa^, thats fine
[14:54] <Yancho> cool poningru so it uses dual 64bith?
[14:54] <^sa^> eissd name is detected on live cd
[14:54] <poningru_> Yancho, yes
[14:54] <^sa^> here it does not find 1 wireless connection
[14:54] <poningru_> ^sa^, right give me dmesg
[14:55] <Andycasss> Do I need to change the hostname of my ubuntu for Zimbra? It would probably screw up my mythtv mysql db
[14:55] <Yancho> cheers poningru_ :)
[14:55] <poningru_> ^sa^, go into system->admin->restricted drivers manager
[14:55] <poningru_> and see if you have anything to turn on in there
[14:55] <Azjo> I am in the process of installing ubuntu 7.10-386 on microsoft virtual pc 2007. when i have reached the desktop the first time, the vga is fucked and nothing is reacting. what is the problem?
[14:55] <Pici> !language | Azjo
[14:55] <ubotu> Azjo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:56] <^sa^> all already done poningru_
[14:56] <poningru_> Andycasss, err I would only install zimbra in its own machine
[14:56] <Ljorring> is xgl supposed to create a directory '~/.config/xserver-xgl'?
[14:56] <poningru_> if you want something that is similar and plays nicer use Citadel
[14:56] <poningru_> Andycasss, we fracked up our * box at work installing zimbra on it
[14:56] <poningru_> ^sa^, dmesg please
[14:57] <Pici> Ljorring: I wouldn't think so...
[14:57] <Azjo> noone has heard of my issue?
[14:57] <^sa^> ok wait
[14:57] <besquare> have you tried suicide? just kidding!
[14:57] <poningru_> Azjo, dude I dont think anyone here will have much exp with the ms virtual pc
[14:57] <poningru_> use virtual box or vmware
[14:57] <Pici> !o4o | besquare
[14:57] <ubotu> besquare: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[14:57] <crush_groove> what creates modules when you biuild a package .. is it the "make" command?
[14:58] <poningru_> crush_groove, modules?
[14:58] <poningru_> what are you trying to do?
[14:58] <poningru_> as in kernel modules?
[14:58] <^sa^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49166/
[14:58] <besquare> exit
[14:58] <Andycasss> poningru_: But still? Do i need to change my machines hostname?
[14:58] <Ljorring> Pici: ok. Im having trouble using XGL. I can enable desktop effects, but everything drawn runs extremely slow. approx 1frame/sec
[14:58] <brabbit> i have got a cuple of questions, 1)can you extract .rpm packages in ubuntu? 2)isn't .rpm for red hat linux? 3) can you install adobe acrobat reader in a AMD64....thankQ
[14:59] <Pici> brabbit: 1) you can, but we dont support it, 2) yes, 3) probably, perhaps someone else can answer this
[14:59] <Pici> Ljorring: What video card? What driver?
[14:59] <Ljorring> I have installed xgl and I am able to enable the advanced desktop effects. But with or without the effects, my graphics are running 'buggy-slow'. I think something is wrong
[14:59] <jason> well I upgraded from feisty to gusty from the update manger,took 2 hour all was going well,but right at the end of the installation it crashed on the gunit ,so I had to do a fresh install of feisty 7.04 and all is fine again ,
[14:59] <ruffleS> bardun, you can use alien to get rpm packages converted into deb ones
[14:59] <klyk> I just got a 'kernel panic' so I booted an older kernel. What do I do now?
[14:59] <poningru_> Andycasss, I have no clue sorry dude
[14:59] <poningru_> Andycasss, I dont think so
[14:59] <^sa^> poningru_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49166/ read?
[15:00] <poningru_> I am pretty sure if you just point your browser at that hostname it should just work
[15:00] <poningru_> ^sa^, yeah hold on
[15:00] <Ljorring> Pici: I have radeon 9600. And I use the proprietary drivers in ubuntu
[15:00] <poningru_> I see the problem
[15:00] <Ljorring> Pici: I have got it to work before, where the graphics went smooth
[15:00] <Pici> Ljorring: Is it 1fps for everything? or jsut video?
[15:01] <Ljorring> Pici: when something is redrawn on my screen
[15:01] <AngryElf> what are the chances i can get dual-screen + compiz effects working w/ a NVIDIA card?
[15:01] <Kin_Away> sorry
[15:01] <crush_groove>  poningru  its offtopic for this room //  sorry Ill get it man .. thank you
[15:01] <Pici> Ljorring: What version of Ubuntu?
[15:01] <Ljorring> Pici: I am using gutsy
[15:02] <don_pucci> i am having such issues with gusty and my wireless network card
[15:02] <don_pucci> after the kernel updates...it no longer works
[15:02] <^sa^> poingru_ any clue?
[15:02] <don_pucci> network-manager says it is connected
[15:02] <Pici> Ljorring: does fglrxinfo say you are using mesa or something ATI?
[15:02] <don_pucci> but cannot get a inet connection
[15:03] <^sa^> poningru_ any clue?
[15:03] <dundel> does anybody know how to allow dns clients on a different subnet to my ubuntu dns server?
[15:03] <Orfintain> no but i figured out how to format my hardrive without meaning too
[15:03] <don_pucci> nice
[15:04] <don_pucci> u mean the 5 warnings before werent enuf?
[15:04] <Ljorring> Pici: it says 'OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)', and it looks good. no 'mesa', but two lines above says: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. & OpenGL renderer string: ATI RADEON 9600 Series
[15:04] <mfi> namd :)
[15:04] <Orfintain> what 5 warnings
[15:04] <don_pucci> lol
[15:04] <cabrioleur> don_pucci: did you try to restart the modem :-) ?
[15:04] <Pici> Ljorring: hmm..
[15:04] <poningru_> ^sa^, looking
[15:04] <^sa^> ok
[15:04] <don_pucci> i tried everything
[15:04] <poningru_> for more help google prism54: Your card/socket may be faulty, or IRQ line too busy
[15:04] <don_pucci> reinstall drivers
[15:04] <^sa^> hope it's easy to solve
[15:04] <Ljorring> Pici: as I said, I can enable my desktop effects
[15:04] <don_pucci> reinstall network-manager
[15:05] <Orfintain> there was the "use entire harddrive" but ..
[15:05] <Pici> Ljorring: With desktop effects is it smooth?
[15:05] <don_pucci> uninstall/reinstall wpasupplicant
[15:05] <don_pucci> tried dhcp
[15:05] <Ljorring> Pici: I am in a unique situation, I cant google it..
[15:05] <don_pucci> tried static
[15:05] <Ljorring> Pici: with or without, it is 1fps
[15:05] <Ljorring> when I open a window, it lags for 3 sec
[15:05] <bloodniece> i know this isn't ubuntu specific, but which pairs from cat5/ethernet are actually needed?  is it the orange and blue?
[15:05] <Ljorring> its only smooth, when I dont move windows
[15:05] <poningru_> ^sa^, what ubuntu are you using?
[15:05] <^sa^> 7.10
[15:05] <Pici> Ljorring: Does it lag in the virtual terminals?
[15:06] <^sa^> 32 bit version
[15:06] <Pici> bloodniece: try ##networking
[15:06] <Ljorring> Pici: minimizing, maximizing, yes
[15:06] <bloodniece> pici, i know. that channel is dead
[15:06] <Ljorring> Pici: the redrawing of text in this xcat session lags too
[15:06] <Pici> Ljorring: I mean ctrl-alt-F1 - F6
[15:06] <Pici> bloodniece: then #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <Ljorring> Pici: ahh
[15:06] <don_pucci> is there an updated release of gutsy that includes the 148 updates?
[15:07] <Ljorring> Pici: when I press ctrl+alt+f1, how do I come back to my UI?
[15:07] <Ljorring> Pici: I remember myself to be stuck there :)
[15:07] <bloodniece> thanks
[15:07] <Pici> Ljorring: ctrl-alt-f7 (or f8)
[15:07] <Ljorring> Pici: ok, brb I will try
[15:07] <ruffleS> don_pucci, aptoncd would help you
[15:08] <don_pucci> wow
[15:08] <Ljorring> Pici: they seem to run fine
[15:08] <don_pucci> sweet
[15:08] <don_pucci> thx
[15:08] <^sa^> poningru_ you thinkt you can do something?
[15:08] <young> mine is ctrl+alt+f8
[15:08] <pete2> hello
[15:08] <poningru_> ^sa^, in the terminal do a sudo modprobe -r prism54
[15:08] <Ljorring> Pici: if I remove xserver-xgl package, my graphics are smooth. But ofc I cant get desktop effects
[15:08] <crush_groove>  is a module a 'patch" ?
[15:08] <Torrent> I installed uwsusp, but when I type sudo s2disk, it says could not stat the resume device file. reason: no such file or directory
[15:08] <poningru_> and then do a sudo modprobe prism54
[15:08] <Pici> crush_groove: -offtopic, you can ask there.
[15:09] <^sa^> and now?
[15:09] <Pici> Ljorring: Have you asked in #compiz-fusion?
[15:09] <pete2> can someone help with m1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier. i cant get scanner to work. printer works flawlesly but xsane refuses to detect scanner,i have found some info that might be helpfull but i am neewb for creating that driver. any help is appriciated, tnx
[15:09] <crush_groove>   sorry pici ..
[15:09] <Ljorring> Pici: nopes, I will do that now, I guess :)
[15:09] <poningru_> ^sa^, do an iwconfig
[15:09] <EtteSB> im looking to see if i have a package. skype says it needs Qt 4.2.1 altho it doesn't give me a package name. i've looked in synaptic but theres loads of QT's so i dunno which one i need
[15:09] <poningru_> and a ifconfig
[15:09] <bazhang> pete2: is that HP?
[15:09] <poningru_> what do you see?
[15:09] <pete2> yes bazhang
[15:10] <Pici> Ljorring: I just don't see why it would be doing this, My ATI card just needs fglrx and xgl-server.
[15:10] <^sa^> lo        no wireless extensions.
[15:10] <Stevop> can anyone help find out why i cant install apache on 7.10?
[15:10] <^sa^> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[15:10] <crush_groove>  pici we need a list of "Ontopic" topics .because ubuntu is linux and I asked a linux question
[15:10] <crush_groove> linux derivitive anyway
[15:10] <poningru_> ^sa^, if its more than 1 line always pastebin
[15:10] <bazhang> crush_groove: getting an ubuntu installation to work is the main on-topic topic iirc
[15:10] <Pici> crush_groove: /join #ubuntu-offtopic  and we'll talk about it
[15:11] <mitchp> Pici; my ATI card won't work no matter what I do.  What card does he have (i forgot his name)?
[15:11] <Stevop> hello can anyone help me?
[15:11] <crush_groove>  aha /. ty bazhang  ..
[15:11] <^sa^> ok sorry
[15:11] <Pici> mitchp: radeon 9600 iirc
[15:11] <Torrent> I installed uwsusp, but when I type sudo s2disk, it says could not stat the resume device file. reason: no such file or directory
[15:11] <^sa^> anyway now it does not recognise the wifi
[15:11] <crush_groove>  ok pici /..
[15:11] <mitchp> Pici; my roommate got that one to barely work.  Still didn't like compiz.
[15:12] <Ljorring> Pici: I dont get it either..
[15:12] <pete2> bazhang: yes, HP M1005 MFP
[15:12] <poningru_> ^sa^, thats it?
[15:12] <poningru_> nothing else in iwconfig?
[15:12] <^sa^> when i use livecd it gives an error about iwlwifi_rc80211_simple
[15:12] <Stevop> hello?
[15:12] <poningru_> ^sa^, I think the best thing you can do now is ndiswrapper
[15:13] <poningru_> I think I can fix it the right way...
[15:13] <^sa^> already done
[15:13] <^sa^> and doesnt work
[15:13] <poningru_> oh?
[15:13] <poningru_> just use the latest one
[15:13] <Ljorring> Pici: my history is: first I got it working through flgrx + xgl... it took a whole weekend and irc+google. then I screwed it up again... a guy in #compiz made it work again with the open source drivers+direct rendering.. the effects were good, but not as fast as with flgrx
[15:13] <mitchp> Ljorring; in all honesty, I would get an nVidia card.  As much as it pains me, i think that's what i'm going to do
[15:13] <^sa^> done
[15:13] <poningru_> !ndis
[15:13] <Torrent> ^sa^: Try compiling ndiswrapper from source.
[15:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:13] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: adding single to end of line beginning with kernel on boot options didn't solve the problem, still the same devicemapper error
[15:13] <bazhang> http://suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=42788 pete2; oddly enough the last listing in that thread is for ubuntu :}
[15:13] <^sa^> i've done anything i can...
[15:13] <SpookyET> HI all
[15:13] <poningru_> ^sa^, you compiled from source?
[15:13] <^sa^> i expect i gotta delete ubuntu and go back to windows
[15:13] <Pici> Ljorring: Wait, so you had the open source driver installed? /methinks its not fully removed.
[15:13] <SpookyET> I have found Beagle 0.3.1 deb packages at http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/beagle/
[15:13] <drgeb> when i try to log in I am immediately kicked out. Now I did a grep WW on Xorg.log and grep EE and there are know errors. So where can the problem lie ?
[15:13] <poningru_> ^sa^, ok
[15:13] <^sa^> i'm not able to
[15:14] <Ljorring> mitchp: hehe, yes... I dream of nvidia all night & day.. if only I was not a poor studendt xD
[15:14] <bazhang> pete2: I would like to see if that can made to work as I would like to buy one as well
[15:14] <^sa^> and by the way on the live cd it works. and that's strange
[15:14] <Ljorring> Pici: yes, I got it up running w the open source stuff
[15:14] <^sa^> i dont install any driver on live cd
[15:14] <^sa^> and goes fine
[15:14] <pete2> bazhang: yes i am there on sane-backends , http://www.nabble.com/sane-driver-for-hp-laserjet-m1005-mfp-to12469670.html , but i am too new to linux to be able to compile
[15:14] <mitchp> Ljorring; yea, same situation as me.  Hoping for xmas money :-P
[15:14] <Ljorring> mitchp: xD
[15:15] <pete2> bazhang: can u help me try to set it up ?
[15:15] <Paavi2_0> ^sa^: your cd might be damaged
[15:15] <Ljorring> Pici: can you help me investigate for old ati drivers?
[15:15] <^sa^> you think so?
[15:15] <^sa^> it gives this error
[15:15] <^sa^> !paste
[15:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:15] <Pici> Ljorring: I don't think I could really help with that, sorry :(
[15:16] <^sa^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49168/
[15:16] <bazhang> http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/ this seems to be the answer! pete2
[15:16] <Ljorring> Pici: okay, I will take it to the guys in compiz
[15:16] <bulmer> drgeb-> are you able to log in as any user at all?
[15:16] <EtteSB> im looking at the skype site and synaptic. they have diffrent dependancies. anyone know which ones are right?
[15:16] <sadaiyappan> How do I mount images?
[15:16] <sadaiyappan> How do I mount images?
[15:16] <pete2> bazhang: let me check
[15:16] <Pici> !iso | sadaiyappan
[15:16] <ubotu> sadaiyappan: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:17] <poningru_> !skype | EtteSB
[15:17] <ubotu> EtteSB: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[15:17] <^sa^> paavi2_0 read the error?
[15:17] <gorilla3d> I had my webcam working ~_~ but I unplugged it and its in another usb port and now its not working. the apps that use it look for /dev/vide0 but that doesn't exist...
[15:17] <minus_> How do I change the mode of my WLAN card? Its running 802.11a but I want 802.11b org g
[15:17] <drgeb> bulmer just tried it and for one user I can
[15:17] <pete2> bazhang: that is only for printer, which works really good atm
[15:17] <KiD_ChAoS> has anyone used kooka for OCR?
[15:18] <Paavi2_0> ^sa^: there might be an error in that script that's supposed to install your wifi drivers
[15:18] <gorilla3d> How do I make my webcam go back to being /dev/video0 ? the light is on so I know linux detects it
[15:18] <pete2> bazhang: i dont think that has to do anything with xsane for scanner
[15:18] <^sa^> how can i do then?
[15:18] <KiD_ChAoS> the kooka's settings it mentions ocrad binary not found
[15:18] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: yes
[15:18] <poningru_> minus_, it should automatically switch based on the ap
[15:18] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, did you have to manually install the ocrad binary
[15:18] <rinaldi_> im having problems installing flashplayer-nonfree, is the installation still broken?
[15:18] <drgeb> bulmer: found something interesting in my .xsession.errors "gnome-session: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0." how can I fix this ?
[15:18] <bazhang> pete2: ah, my mistake--in my zeal I misread
[15:18] <poningru_> rinaldi_, yes
[15:18] <minus_> poningru_, ok...
[15:18] <cabrioleur> do you have ocrad installed?
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> rinaldi_: yes
[15:19] <^sa^> paavi2_0 how can i do?
[15:19] <pete2> bazhang: this is the solution i think : http://www.nabble.com/sane-driver-for-hp-laserjet-m1005-mfp-to12469670.html
[15:19] <minus_> poningru_, but it cant connect. I cant get an IP
[15:19] <KiD_ChAoS> im not sure cabrioleur
[15:19] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, i thought it might have came with kooka
[15:19] <poningru_> minus_, do an iwconfig
[15:19] <Paavi2_0> ^sa^: i'm sorry, i have no idea what you could do :(
[15:19] <minus_> poningru_, done
[15:19] <pete2> bazhang: but i dont know how to compile all of that
[15:20] <^sa^> nobody does...
[15:20] <^sa^> i think i'll go back to windos :(
[15:20] <^sa^> at least i can surf wherever i want
[15:20] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: it should be as dependency. Try "whereis ocrad" in terminal and see if you have it. If not, "sudo install ocrad"
[15:20] <cabrioleur> "sudo apt-get install ocrad"
[15:20] <KiD_ChAoS> ok cabrioleur
[15:20] <cabrioleur> ^sa^: a good idea :-)
[15:21] <Paavi2_0> ^sa^: if you find a way, you should try to disable iwlwifi_rc80211_simple
[15:21] <^sa^> i dont know how. i'm a newbie
[15:21] <chinmay> .net
[15:21] <judgement> anyone in here have worked on a discover station pc? can it be used on a regular pc?
[15:21] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, when i type 'whereis ocrad' it spits out 'ocrad:' and then thats it
[15:21] <^sa^> go to win anyway. bye and tnx a lot for your help. i'll try next version
[15:21] <^sa^> bye
[15:21] <dooglus> how can I view webcams in ubuntu?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > ^sa^
[15:22] <dooglus> I had a message from a hot chick saying "watch me naked on my live web cam at >> http://www.bayanbul.net/webcam.exe" but when I try to view it, firefox just asks me if I want to "save or open"
[15:22] <Lycalopex> dooglus: several options vlc is handy for testing at least since its pretty easy to capture vid using it
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus: that is a windows exe file.. they are trying to send you a virus
[15:22] <Paavi2_0> dooglus: "lol"
[15:23] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: type "sudo apt-get install ocrad"
[15:23] <Lycalopex> ie4linux| dooglus
[15:23] <judgement> dooglus: try to view it w/kino and video4linux
[15:23] <dooglus> Jack_Sparrow: no, she said she wants to see my lovely big <censored>
[15:23] <Torrent> When i install uswsusp, it doesnt find my swap.. what do I do?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus: enough
[15:23] <bulmer> drgeb-> if you can log on as one user and not as another user, check the /etc/passwd file and see what is the user's log on shell
[15:23] <judgement> there are also webcams in the add/remove
[15:24] <bulmer> drgeb-> also check the users home directory if you have set itup properly
[15:24] <Torrent> whats the name of the swap drive
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycalopex: ie4linux   is a fast way to lose all support from people at #Wine... they feel it is in the same catagory as automatix and wont touch it
[15:25] <wols_> Torrent: sudo fdisk -l
[15:25] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: what do they want one to use for IE then?
[15:25] <drgeb> what do I need to look for in user home directory ?
[15:25] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, i installed it, but when i restarted kooka it still says binary not found
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: they have some other options, but even their topic says they wont help you if you have used it
[15:26] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: go to setup and type a proper path to the file.
[15:26] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, do you know where the path is?
[15:27] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: the proper path will be displayed when you type "whereis ocrad"
[15:27] <dooglus> if I use wine to run a .exe file, and the file turns out to be a virus, can it cause much damage?
[15:27] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, ok
[15:27] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: probably /usr/bin/ocrad
[15:27] <Paavi2_0> dooglus: no
[15:27] <wols_> dooglus: it sometimes can infect your wine
[15:27] <Juhaz> dooglus, yes.
[15:27] <judgement> dooglus: just wine itself
[15:27] <dooglus> hahah.  I got three answers - yes, no, and maybe.  nice!
[15:27] <Orfintain> hi, i'm stuck in 640X480
[15:28] <dundel> .
[15:28] <Paavi2_0> dooglus: i meant not much but some
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus: Not to your ubuntu install but if you have mapped Z drive to your root folder, there are some potential problems
[15:28] <Orfintain> on an laptop
[15:28] <bazhang> pete2: well, from searching it seems that no one has full capabilitiies on that model; not Vista, Not Leopard and not yet Ubuntu--HP has quite good support for Linux generally, so likely will release something in the next few weeks
[15:28] <Dr_willis> dooglus,  in theory a windows executable could remove all your users files.. but that wouldent hurt the system. :) just your home dir.
[15:28] <KiD_ChAoS> ok cabrioleur , it worked but i didn't understand a single word.. do i have to tell it what font im using? or should i scan the page into a paticular format?
[15:29] <lesshaste_> how do I find which ubuntu package has psfig.sty?
[15:29] <wols_> !firxres | Orfintain
[15:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firxres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:29] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a way to Nuke/wipe a usb harddrive?
[15:29] <Dr_willis> dooglus,  ive used wine to run spyware and other malware to see what it does.
[15:29] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  formating it is not good enough?
[15:29] <wols_> lesshaste_: by using packages.ubuntu.com
[15:29] <Juhaz> who cares about the bloody system? that's half an hour reinstall, all your important data is in your home dir
[15:29] <gorilla3d> how do yo load a module into the kernel? modprobe?
[15:29] <LjL> gorilla3d: yes
[15:29] <wols_> shadowhywind: dd if=/dev/urandomg of=/dev/<device node of usb stick>
[15:29] <LjL> with sudo
[15:30] <lesshaste_> wols_, umm..nothing!
[15:30] <cabrioleur> KiD_ChAoS: experiment with the options to get the best results. The rest is a personal preference.
[15:30] <dooglus> Dr_willis: except I have sudo access, so I guess it could do whatever it wanted to really.
[15:30] <KiD_ChAoS> cabrioleur, ok thankyou
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Juhaz: Wine suggests you create a different user with access only to wine
[15:30] <Paavi2_0> dooglus: don't mix sudo and wine, it kills
[15:30] <krim> Is there a way to clean out all "system files" in /home, so if I install Debian I won't have the old config files for Ubuntu left in there?
[15:30] <gorilla3d> LjL, um.. how would I make it fine the module I want to load, keeps saying not found
[15:30] <dundel> oke this is strange, i'm testing my dns server and i got a mirc connection but i can't browse the web :S
[15:30] <y2hh> Question, new user -- I'm using 7.10 (patched), and I'm having issues getting my external display to operate with the nVidia restricted driver enabled.  The built in control panel for multiple monitors doesnt seem to work for me...anyone else with a similar issue or a known fix?
[15:31] <bazhang> pete2: you get that?
[15:31] <wols_> gorilla3d: which module?
[15:31] <LjL> gorilla3d: perhaps you don't have it? :) what module is that.
[15:31] <gorilla3d> a module I compile
[15:31] <gorilla3d> for my webcam
[15:31] <dooglus> krim: you can remove all files that begin with a dot - that's close to what you asked for
[15:31] <gorilla3d> gspca.ko
[15:31] <Azjo> How do i change default depth in ubuntu 7.10? in console im reading a guide that tells me to search for depth but it wont find it
[15:31] <wols_> gorilla3d: NAMES. and what did you do after compiling it?
[15:31] <gorilla3d> wols_: nothing...
[15:31] <cabrioleur> gorilla3d: did you do make install?
[15:31] <lesshaste_> wols_, ah... my mistake..texlive-generic-extra :)
[15:31] <wols_> gorilla3d: you need to install it
[15:32] <Dr_willis> dooglus,  it would proberly ask for the sudo password. :) that would be a red flag. of course that would be an impressive virus.  well acgtually it would be a 'trojan' i guess
[15:32] <gorilla3d> oh pff im a moron
[15:32] <judgement> what do i need to run multiple terminals or koisk?
[15:32] <wols_> gorilla3d: it needs ot end up somewhere in /lib/modules/
[15:32] <judgement> has anyone tried discoverstation?
[15:32] <Azjo> How do i change default depth in ubuntu 7.10? in the console.
[15:32] <krim>  dooglus But will I be able to do that from Ubuntu itself without causing weird problems? Somehow it seems like something would go wrong if I deleted all the 'important' files in /home
[15:32] <pete2> bazhang: yes, i got that
[15:33] <gorilla3d> wols_: rm -f /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca.ko
[15:33] <Pici> !fb | Azjo
[15:33] <ubotu> Azjo: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[15:33] <wols_> gorilla3d: why do you want to delete it?
[15:33] <gorilla3d> wols_: it did that.....
[15:33] <pete2> bazhag ; i think this is solution , http://www.nabble.com/sane-driver-for-hp-laserjet-m1005-mfp-to12469670.html , but i dont know how to compile that :/
[15:33] <wols_> gorilla3d: what did that?
[15:33] <dooglus> krim: you could log in as a different user I guess, so the dot-files aren't in use as you move them around
[15:33] <lesshaste_> I am really impressed by the texlive packages!
[15:33] <lesshaste_> Everything is there
[15:33] <lesshaste_> I love ubuntu :)
[15:33] <dooglus> krim: have the 2nd user su to your main account, then move them
[15:34] <gorilla3d> wols_: make install, but yeah just dump the compiled files in /lib/modules
[15:34] <the> oh no
[15:34]  * lesshaste_ wonders is that is a crime in some states of the US
[15:34] <Azjo> how do i change it when i am already in the desktop? as far as i can understand, that guide is only for boot? :)
[15:34] <the> hi
[15:34] <y2hh> Question, new user -- I'm using 7.10 (patched), and I'm having issues getting my external display to operate with the nVidia restricted driver enabled.  The built in control panel for multiple monitors doesnt seem to work for me...anyone else with a similar issue or a known fix??
[15:34] <Torren2> How do I activate my swap?
[15:34] <bazhang> pete2: it looks like a solution, but not an easy one--probably someone will cobble something together (ending in .deb hopefully) shortly
[15:34] <Pici> Azjo: You want to change the color depth for the desktop? or for the ttys?
[15:34] <wols_> Torren2: do you have swap?
[15:34] <dooglus> Dr_willis: I guess I would have it create an alias for 'sudo' in the user .bashrc and wait for them to start a new shell and run sudo.  that would probably be the easiest way to avoid detection
[15:35] <Dr_willis> Torren2,  'swapon' command - but it shoudl be getting actuvated at boot up if your fstab is right
[15:35] <krim> dooglus: thanks for the tip
[15:35] <the> have you got the playstation 3
[15:35] <Torren2> wols_: Yeah I did, but after I used s2both -resume_device /dev/sda4, my swap is ianctive
[15:35] <Azjo> for the desktop
[15:35] <Torren2> Dr_willis: I tried that, but it says invalid argument.. I typed swapon -a
[15:35] <wols_> Torren2: swapon -a.  How much memory do you have and how much swap do you have?
[15:35] <gorilla3d> wols_: it is install there hm.. /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko & /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/media/gspca.ko
[15:35] <Pici> Azjo: Are you concerned that its not high enough?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> Torren2,  your fstab entry may be invalid.
[15:36] <Torren2> wols_: 2GB RAM, 4GB SWAP
[15:36] <Pici> the: What do you mean?
[15:36] <the> i can speak german
[15:36] <Pici> !de | the
[15:36] <Azjo> no, its a bug in microsoft VPC 2007
[15:36] <pete2> bazhang: yes, that is .deb option :/
[15:36] <ubotu> the: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:36] <wols_> Torren2: what does "free" say
[15:36] <wols_> gorilla3d: so what's the problem now?
[15:36] <Torren2> wols_: It says 0
[15:36] <gorilla3d> wols_: and then sudo modprobe gspca.ko returns "FATAL: Module gspca.ko not found."
[15:36] <Pici> Azjo: A bug that needs to be fixed by changing something in Ubuntu?
[15:36] <wols_> Torren2: swapon /dev/sda4
[15:36] <Azjo> i have a guide which tells me to go console and write sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then press ctrl + w and search for depth
[15:36] <Azjo> however, i dont find depth
[15:37] <Ljorring> where do I check the value of LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT ?
[15:37] <wols_> gorilla3d: depmod -a then try again
[15:37] <the> könnt ihr mich verstehen
[15:37] <Pici> the: not here, /j #ubuntu-de
[15:37] <H4v1s_> Hi! I want to ask what driver should I use with Radeon X1650,  fglrx or radeonhd?  ...I'm running on vesa at the moment...and it's rather slow
[15:37] <Azjo> its supposed to find DefaultDepth
[15:37] <wols_> the: please go to #ubuntu-de
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Azjo: depth is in xorg.. guaranteed
[15:37] <Torren2> wols: It says /dev/sda4 invalid argument
[15:37] <the> könnt ihr mich verstehen
[15:37] <krim> H4v1s_: fglrx, radeonhd isn't ready yet I think
[15:37] <bazhang> pete2: not quite--it's compiling stuff in quite a complicated procedure--if you keep an eye on ubuntuforums and discussion sites, someone will come up with an easier fix
[15:37] <Pici> Azjo: Can you link me to the place where you are reading this?
[15:38] <wols_> Torren2: mkswap /dev/sda4 then try swapon -a again
[15:38] <H4v1s_> krim and is fglrx stable? cause friend told me it locks his PC on boot...
[15:38] <Azjo> http://blogs.msdn.com/mikekol/archive/2007/08/06/making-ubuntu-7-04-work-under-virtual-pc-2007.aspx its for 7.04 though..
[15:38] <Pici> Azjo: Also, can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[15:38] <Pici> !paste | Azjo
[15:38] <ubotu> Azjo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:38] <Torren2> wols_: Okay, it works now :)
[15:38] <Pici> H4v1s_: fglrx are the Official ATI drivers (just repackaged for ubuntu)
[15:39] <pete2> bazhang: ok, tnx m8
[15:39] <bazhang> pete2: the only drivers that apparently work are for Tiger and XP :{
[15:39] <gorilla3d> wols_: same error...
[15:39] <gizmoarena> if anyone needs help, pm me
[15:39] <H4v1s_> Pici, ahh ok, thx very much
[15:39] <krim> H4v1s_: It's as stable as you'll get for now :)
[15:39] <roro_> roro
[15:39] <pete2> bazhang: ok, i try forum. tnx m8
[15:39] <steph_> I've installed gutsy and there is an applet for networking management. When I changed properties (DHCP or anything else) it looks like I need to restart the network daemon. Am I wrong?
[15:39] <wols_> gorilla3d: where exactly is your module. full path
[15:40] <wols_> steph_: what is this "network daemon" you speak of?
[15:40] <Hee_Haw> hi
[15:40] <Delvien> anyone have the eyecandy repos for gutsy ? or a link to the website?
[15:40] <Dr_willis> eye candy repos?
[15:40] <steph_> nm-applet 0.6.5
[15:40] <gorilla3d> wols_: http://paste2.org/p/10893
[15:41] <K4k-laptop> Can someone help me find out why my mozilla flash plugin isn't working?
[15:41] <Ljorring> is some components of glx required to get glfrx to work?
[15:41] <Torren2> someone pls help me with uswsusp..
[15:41] <Ljorring> can I remove every glx package?
[15:41] <wols_> gorilla3d: and your modprobe line?
[15:41] <mitchp> the "network daemon" is likely /etc/init.d/networking
[15:41] <gorilla3d> wols_:  sudo modprobe gspca.ko
[15:41] <mitchp> every time i change my network settings i do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:41] <wols_> Ljorring: only the fglrx glx
[15:41] <Ljorring> wols_: mkay, ty
[15:41] <bazhang> !flashissues | K4k-laptop
[15:41] <wols_> gorilla3d: modprobe wants a module name, not a filename
[15:41] <mitchp> K4k; use easyubuntu
[15:42] <ubotu> K4k-laptop: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[15:42] <K4k-laptop> bazhang: is there a known fix?
[15:42] <bazhang> mitchp: please stop. that is not a good bit of advice and will break your system
[15:42] <wols_> !easyubuntu
[15:42] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[15:42] <gorilla3d> wols_: oh... <,< i knew that....
[15:43] <bq> I'm looking for a program to render plain text in a nice format with scrolling for reading ebooks.. Can anyone recommend something?
[15:43] <wols_> bq: FBReader maybe
[15:43] <bq> wols_ thanks
[15:43] <bazhang> K4k-laptop: there is a workaround; Jack_Sparrow should be able to tell you (he may not be here)
[15:44] <Torren2> someone pls help me with uswsusp..
[15:44] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, are you around anywhere?
[15:44] <stefkoo> people somebody can tell me why i have error in "tor" error msg ( 16:47:11 libtsocks(10885): SOCKS V4 connect rejected:
[15:44] <Torren2> Everytime I resume, my swap disappears
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[15:44] <Orfintain> i've haveing resolution issues with inspiron 600m
[15:45] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, I was told you could tell me about a workaround for the adobe problems
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> K4k-laptop: what did I miss
[15:45] <stefkoo> people somebody can tell me why i have error in "tor" error msg ( 16:47:11 libtsocks(10885): SOCKS V4 connect rejected:
[15:45] <Orfintain> i've haveing resolution issues with inspiron 600m
[15:45] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, for the broken flash tarball thing
[15:45] <stefkoo> people somebody can tell me why i have error in "tor" error msg ( 16:47:11 libtsocks(10885): SOCKS V4 connect rejected:
[15:45] <bazhang> !repeat | Orfintain
[15:45] <ubotu> Orfintain: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:45] <ToddEDM> !ati
[15:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:46] <Orfintain> right i was just looking at that
[15:46] <Orfintain> it's not supposed to have to use that on 7.1
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> K4k-laptop: First off.. a warning... It only works for Firefox, not opera and others.  Second, you can have other problems when they do release the real fix
[15:46] <mitchp> easyubuntu hasn't broken anything yet.  I've been using it for over 6 months on various installs.
[15:46] <bazhang> !worksforme | mitchp
[15:46] <ubotu> mitchp: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:47] <stefkoo> !Tor stefkoo
[15:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor stefkoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:47] <mitchp> but i understand why not to recommend it in the official channel and i apologize
[15:47] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, I am using Firefox and if I do the workaround, is it reversable so I can install the official fix?
[15:47] <stefkoo> :/
[15:47] <stefkoo> somebody CAN HELP me about TOR !!?!?
[15:47] <filo86> how to download real player 10?
[15:47] <bazhang> please be patient stefkoo
[15:47] <CoasterMaster> Is Medibuntu 3rd party?
[15:47] <stefkoo> bazhang: ok
[15:47] <Pici> stefkoo: check in #tor
[15:47] <stefkoo> Pici: there have NO helpers online
[15:47] <Pici> stefkoo: Then join the offical channel thats in that channel's topic
[15:47] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | filo86
[15:47] <ubotu> filo86: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:48] <bazhang> filo86: you can go to www.real.com and get it; this will require assembly which they have instructions for
[15:48] <chazco> filo86 - installing it from the realplayer website is quite easy, just make the installer executable and run it as sudo
[15:48] <Torren2> someone pls help me with uswsusp..  I dont know if Im doign it right.. when I resume, its like a booting from a power off state, and the swap disappears
[15:48] <stefkoo> Pici: i'm banned on that server the ip with 79.* its glined :S
[15:48] <Pici> CoasterMaster: Its 3rd party, but we'll help you install it.
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> K4k-laptop: Without the official fix, I dont know how reversable it will be..
[15:48] <K4k-laptop> stefkoo: I can't imagine why...
[15:48] <Pici> stefkoo: I can't help you then. Don't get impatient because no one is answering you here.
[15:48] <stefkoo> ok.
[15:48] <CoasterMaster> Pici, thanks....just curious if it was 3rd part (already using it, but I was just wondering).....
[15:49] <bazhang> K4k-laptop: haha
[15:49] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, hmmm..then any word on the official fix yet?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> K4k-laptop: the only sure way would be a quick backup....  and no we dont know when the official fix will come down
[15:50] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, Ok, thanks for the assistance, I'll give Gnash a shot in the meantime
[15:50] <steph_> mitchp: thanks, it works. Can you tell me why the file is green when i do a ls command?
[15:50] <douviss> n #ubuntu-fr
[15:50] <douviss> oups
[15:50] <douviss> sorry
[15:50] <mitchp> steph_; im sorry, i don't remember what i helped you with (lol).  please refresh my memory
[15:50] <steph_> Network restart... :)
[15:51] <Torren2> someone pls help me with uswsusp..  I dont know if Im doign it right.. when I resume, its like a booting from a power off state, and the swap disappears
[15:51] <mitchp> steph_; right, thanks.  I believe green means executable?  I'm sure someone here knows.  But the colors signify things about the file, like directories and excecutables
[15:51] <brobostigon> torren2: add your swap to fstab, so that when you reboot its activated.
[15:51] <howard> HI
[15:52] <steph_> oh thanks
[15:52] <kurei> hi
[15:52] <Pici> mitchp: steph_: yes, green means that it has the executable bit set
[15:52] <temple> hi
[15:52] <Torren2> brobostigon: It's already there in fstab.. i didn't chaneg anything..  It was working till an hour ago
[15:52] <gizmoarena> if anyone needs help, PM me
[15:52] <temple> is there any way to tranfer my account settings from evolution to thunderbird?
[15:53] <brobostigon> torren2: does top and df tell you that there is some swap??
[15:53] <mitchp> does anyone use wicd and has anyone installed it recently?  I wasnt able to last time i tried, and before i suggest it I'd like to know if it's broken
[15:53] <kurei> for some reason, my ubuntu does not play any form of sound... can anyone help me out? :)
[15:53] <chazco> hi... i have an infrared remote control (part of Nova-T DVB stick)... some keys are recognised (numbers, arrows) but others are not... how can i make the other keys work?
[15:53] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-export-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html temple
[15:53] <Torren2> brobostigon: It's not there.. that's what I'm saying.. It was working before but now it's not there when I boot.. I never changed anything in my fstab
[15:54] <temple> thanks
[15:54] <ShredZ> I updated to gutsy and now I get Blacklisted PCIID found aborting and using fallback window manager... q3 works fins so my glx is running, please help ?
[15:55] <brobostigon> torren2: well some thing must have changed, for it to have happened, it doesnt change all on its own, do the system logs say anthing has been cjanged??
[15:55] <kye> whats a good and easy app used for converting AVI to DVD?
[15:55] <kurei> how do i reinstall my sound card?
[15:55] <mitchp> kurie; i can't help you now because I'm not at my linux machine, but if you don't get help, look for me here later, around 6PM CST
[15:55] <mitchp> kurei*
[15:55] <Torren2> brendonw: I installed uswsusp to try to get my hibernate to work... And then I did s2disk -resume_device /dev/sda4 .. that's when the swap started disappearing after boot
[15:56] <kurei> mitchp, thanks
[15:56] <kye> whats a good and easy app used for converting AVI to DVD?
[15:56] <K4k-laptop> Jack_Sparrow, I found /a/ workaround for the adobe thing on the forums just now, it's getting the tar.gz file and installing manually, however, when I go to install it, it asks me for a valid install directory, but /usr/lib/mozilla is apparently not it. What is the proper location?
[15:57] <Torren2> brobostigon: I installed uswsusp to try to get my hibernate to work... And then I did s2disk -resume_device /dev/sda4 .. that's when the swap started disappearing after boot
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> K4k-laptop: Join me in #Voyager and I will show you...
[15:58] <kbrosnan_> K4k-laptop: you can just extract the file and place it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrosnan_: assuming he has a folder called plugins
[15:58] <brobostigon> torren2: i dont understand those commands, they are boyond my knowlege, i dont even know what those commands do, sorry i can help with those commands.sorry.
[15:59] <Torren2> :(
[15:59] <jpiccol1> how would i stop gdm from starting when bringing up a system?
[15:59] <giggsey> I've tried to partition my hard drive using gparted on the gutsy livecd, and it's said that my ntfs drive has bad sectors. So I did as it said, rebooted into Windows, run chkdsk fully, and tried again, and it's still saying it. What should I do?
[15:59] <rakyr> are there any tools to monitor the health of my HDD?
[15:59] <anka-ar> patria o muerte!
[15:59] <jpiccol1> giggsey: sounds like your harddrive is dying
[16:00] <Dr_willis_> !find smart
[16:00] <ubotu> Found: libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, smartdimmer, smartmontools, xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin (and 16 others)
[16:00] <steph_> mitchp: just in case you would like to know      $dircolors --print-database
[16:00] <giggsey> great...
[16:00] <Dr_willis_> !info smartmontools
[16:00] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.37-5ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 280 kB, installed size 684 kB
[16:00] <giggsey> jpiccol1: Is there a way I could ignore the errors and do it anyway?
[16:00] <mitchp> steph_; oooo, thanks.  lol
[16:01] <bazhang> anka-ar do you have a support question?
[16:01] <jpiccol1> giggsey: i dont think you would want too, if your starting to get bad sectors the harddrive is corrupting
[16:02] <giggsey> jpiccol1: but saying I liked to live on the wild side, and had no important data (apart from my firefox cookies :(), and still wanted to do it
[16:03] <|DrEaMeR|> hi hi !
[16:03] <bazhang> hi |DrEaMeR|
[16:03] <Peppermint_Roo> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10, and recently downloaded a required update that said I needed to reboot the system.  After rebooting, I could no longer boot into Ubuntu, but get: MP_BIOS bug: 8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC.  Followed by: Kernel Panic -- not syncing: IO-APIC timer doesn't work!  Boot with apic=debug and send a report.  Then try booting with the "noapic" option.  Could anyone offer me some insight into this situation, par
[16:03] <ElReNGo73> hola
[16:03] <Pici> !es | ElReNGo73
[16:03] <ubotu> ElReNGo73: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:04] <|DrEaMeR|> lol
[16:04] <Peppermint_Roo> I have an emergency XP partition in case the Linux goes down.  It boots into that just fine.  I also can get access to a terminal when I boot in Ubuntu recovery mode.
[16:04] <bazhang> Peppermint_Roo: have you tried booting with that option (noapic)?
[16:04] <ElReNGo73> Pici, hay que ser bilingue
[16:04] <Pici> ElReNGo73: No, only english
[16:04] <Peppermint_Roo> bazhang:  I don't know how to set that option, could you please tell me?
[16:05] <ElReNGo73> soy bilingue yo por eso entro aca
[16:05] <|DrEaMeR|> Which is the best IRC client for gnome? X-Chat sometimes crashes :S
[16:05] <MasterShrek> !es | ElReNGo73
[16:05] <ubotu> ElReNGo73: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:05] <Pici> ElReNGo73: /j #ubuntu-es
[16:05] <jpiccol1> giggsey: i would google fdisk and see if you can force it to format
[16:05] <ElReNGo73> bue otro, paaaaaa no me entienden
[16:05] <ElReNGo73> xD
[16:05] <MasterShrek> |DrEaMeR|: you can use pidgin, or a cli based client like irssi or bitchx
[16:05] <bazhang> ElReNGo73: just click on #ubuntu-es
[16:05] <pythondasnake> I downloaded jdk-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin to Ubuntu so I could code in Java with Eclipse or another IDE. I'm new to Ubuntu, how do I install the java JVM ?
[16:06] <giggsey> Okay thanks, I'll look into running ntfs resize via terminal
[16:06] <ElReNGo73> yes, yes yes #ubuntu-es yes yes yes yes yes
[16:06] <mitchp> does the chatzilla firefox extension work with the linux version of firefox?  thats the one i'd recommend if you don't like xchat
[16:06] <pythondasnake> double clicking doesn't seem to work lol
[16:06] <kbrosnan_> mitchp: yes
[16:06] <SpookyET> DAMN IT
[16:06] <Pici> pythondasnake: We have a package for java in the repositories, did you try using that?
[16:06] <Peppermint_Roo> bazhang:  Do you know where/how to set up such a boot parameter?
[16:06] <Pici> SpookyET: calm down.
[16:07] <usta> hi everyone I installing qmail but looking that err msg make: *** No rule to make target `str_cpyb.c', needed by `str_cpyb.o'.  Stop.
[16:07] <pythondasnake> Pici no I didn't nor do I know how to do that.
[16:07] <|DrEaMeR|> Pici: good job
[16:07] <usta> can anyone help ?
[16:07] <Tilllinux> okay guys, I've got a problem  ;) : There's a screensaver called (german) "Verflechtung" which is causing my whole system to freeze (ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't help either). I'd like to change the screensaver, but I can't use the nice screensaver-selection-gui, as it's previewing this "verflechtung" which will then freeze my system :D ("verflechtung" looks like some small lines in a circle, very colorful)
[16:07] <SpookyET> beagle 0.3.1 depends on a newer version of libc6.Upgrading libc6 is a pain since everything depends on it
[16:07] <pythondasnake> Does that include the JVM ?
[16:07] <Pici> pythondasnake: yes.
[16:07] <emsalsiz> Enter text here...
[16:07] <emsalsiz> selam
[16:07] <Pici> pythondasnake: Even eclipse is in the repos.
[16:08] <UstA> emsalsiz SELAM
[16:08] <pythondasnake> How do I access this Pici ?
[16:08] <ArsHermetica> mornin folks
[16:08] <|DrEaMeR|> pidgin recomended for irc ?
[16:08] <Pici> !tr | emsalsiz
[16:08] <ubotu> emsalsiz: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[16:08] <Pici> !software | pythondasnake please read
[16:08] <ubotu> pythondasnake please read: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[16:08] <|DrEaMeR|> it seems to be a little small client, is it?
[16:08] <pythondasnake> k
[16:08] <torren3> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=8707 <---- Whats wrong with this? My swap doesn't work anymore after boot
[16:08] <UstA> I installing qmail but looking that err msg make: *** No rule to make target `str_cpyb.c', needed by `str_cpyb.o'.  Stop.
[16:08] <Pici> |DrEaMeR|: Pidgin is kind of weak for a irc client.
[16:09] <|DrEaMeR|> Then, after x-chat?
[16:09] <MasterShrek> i agree with Pici this is the first time im using it for an irc client cuz im not on my pc, im not very impresse
[16:09] <MasterShrek> d
[16:09] <Delvien> When I run gnome-system-monitor i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49175/
[16:09] <ArsHermetica> Odd thing happened today. I cannot access my files. Home folder or otherwise
[16:09] <|DrEaMeR|> I'm using Kvirc.. and I would like to user another one
[16:10] <torren3> irssi is good
[16:10] <rakyr> what do ppl want out of irssi that makes it so good?
[16:10] <Lycalopex> clean simple irc client
[16:10] <mitchp> |DrEaMeR|; I'm using chatzilla, which is a firefox extension.  I don't know if it's good or not, but it's easy to both install and use.
[16:11] <torren3> i like that its very easy to script
[16:11] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2552245&postcount=10 peppermint-roo
[16:11] <UstA> I installing qmail but looking that err msg make: *** No rule to make target `str_cpyb.c', needed by `str_cpyb.o'.  Stop. can anyone help me pls? thanks a lot.............
[16:11] <Tilllinux> hm... I like pidgin, though it's not the most visually attractive client ;)
[16:11] <Tilllinux> however... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/95506 this is the problem I'm experiencing as well
[16:11] <brobostigon> i like pidgin, easy to setup, use and very stable in my eperience.
[16:11] <ArsHermetica> Could anyone help me to figure out why I can no longer access my files. I.E. Home folder, pictures etc et all
[16:12] <Tilllinux> I think I'll try deactivating compiz
[16:12] <young> ls
[16:12] <Lycalopex> ArsHermetica: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER
[16:12] <torren3> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=8707 <---- Whats wrong with this? My swap doesn't work anymore after boot
[16:12] <|DrEaMeR|> mitchp: can you use dcc ?
[16:12] <ArsHermetica> Lycalopex: thank you
[16:12] <pythondasnake> pici so I just go to add/remove programs .. I don't see java in this list
[16:13] <pythondasnake> Is it named something else ?
[16:13] <mitchp> |DrEaMeR|; don't know what that is, sorry
[16:13] <MasterShrek> pythondasnake: open synaptic: system > admin > synaptic
[16:13] <Pici> pythondasnake: Try from System>Adminstration>Synaptic Package Manger
[16:13] <mitchp> is there an easy way to reply to somone besides typing their whole name?
[16:13] <brobostigon> pythondasnake: try synaptic.
[16:13] <MasterShrek> !tab | mitchp
[16:13] <ubotu> mitchp: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:13] <bazhang> tab completion
[16:13] <mitchp> thanks
[16:13] <MasterShrek> :)
[16:14] <kurei> for some reason, my ubuntu does not play any form of sound... can anyone help me out? :)
[16:14] <pythondasnake> Ok..
[16:14] <ArsHermetica> Lycal: Nothing happened or changed
[16:14] <bazhang> !sound | kurei
[16:14] <ubotu> kurei: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:14] <MasterShrek> kurei: is it muted?
[16:14] <Delvien> When I run gnome-system-monitor i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49175/
[16:14] <MasterShrek> =P
[16:15] <badiane> ehlo
[16:15] <UstA> I installing qmail but looking that err msg make: *** No rule to make target `str_cpyb.c', needed by `str_cpyb.o'.  Stop. can anyone help me pls? thanks a lot.............
[16:16] <badiane> I have a udev question relating to hard disk permissions
[16:16] <badiane> is someone able to help me with this
[16:16] <brobostigon> usta: no idea,sorry.
[16:16] <MasterShrek> badiane: i usually add my user to the plugdev and disk groups, maybe give that a try
[16:16] <UstA> brobostigon: thanks
[16:17] <vincenz> Hello
[16:17] <badiane> let me explain what I'm doing an maybe someone may help with a better way
[16:17] <badiane> thanks MasterShrek
[16:17] <badiane> I have install virtualbox
[16:17] <torren3> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=8707 <---- Whats wrong with this? My swap doesn't work anymore after boot
[16:17] <badiane> and I'm using a raw partition
[16:17] <vincenz> My harddrive is failnig so I went out and got a new one (along with a case).  Do you recommend I do a non-local install onto the newharddrive while having it externally, or what is the suggested manner of installing onto the new disk
[16:18] <|DrEaMeR|> dd maybe?
[16:18] <badiane> it requires that the regular user has permissions to access the drive
[16:18] <MasterShrek> torren3: try changing the uuid to the actual device name. like /dev/xxxx
[16:19] <vegeta> hello
[16:19] <MasterShrek> hi vegeta
[16:19] <vegeta> im looking for a soft to make iso from cd/dvd
[16:19] <MasterShrek> dd
[16:19] <vegeta> dd
[16:19] <MasterShrek> vegeta: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/file.iso
[16:20] <vincenz> how do I start an installation ?
[16:20] <vincenz> if I do not wish to use a live cd
[16:20] <MasterShrek> !install
[16:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:20] <vegeta> ok let me chek :P
[16:20] <bazhang> vincenz: using the alternate?
[16:21] <Tilllinux> hm... is it possible to tell wine not to be "connected to the internet" ?
[16:21] <vincenz> bazhang: I'm replacing my hd
[16:21] <tomkirby> can anyone help me work out why I'm getting green vertical lines on the edges of text/windows on my screen?
[16:21] <vincenz> got ubuntu on my current one, but it is broken
[16:21] <MasterShrek> Tilllinux: i dont think so, but im not 100% sure
[16:21] <bazhang> vincenz: you want to migrate an existing install to a new hard drive?
[16:21] <Torren2> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=8709 <---- MasterShrek, that's my whole fstab
[16:21] <Torren2> MasterShrek: It's /dev/sda4 .. So what do I put there exactly? what is UUID? There's a UUID for my NTFS partitions but they all work fine
[16:21] <pythondasnake> I'm sorry for all the questions.. I just don't know what I am doing... I have two monitors and with xp is appears to be one big monitor but when I boot Ubuntu it is the same screen on both monitors.. How do I change the settings for this ?
[16:22] <qcode> My computer flies after removing compiz...
[16:22] <vincenz> bazhang: no, since the package system is broken (faulty sectors)
[16:22] <qcode> Xgl takes away too many CPU cycles
[16:22] <MasterShrek> Torren2: replace UUID=4350603b-feb3-48fd-ac96-a949304b8837 with /dev/sda4
[16:22] <Tilllinux> pythondasnake: ati or nvidia?
[16:22] <qcode> At time I noticed the CPU peaks 100% for a while
[16:22] <bazhang> vincenz: the minimal install; the alternate, or the live?
[16:22] <MxD> hi guys! I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to get my nVidia card to work :D
[16:22] <qcode> Xgl bug?
[16:22] <pythondasnake> nvidia
[16:23] <MasterShrek> MxD: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[16:23] <vincenz> bazhang: I would prefer not using a cd
[16:23] <ip00n> !nvidia
[16:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:23] <vincenz> bazhang: I'd preferp lugging the new hd into my usb
[16:23] <Pici> !dualhead | pythondasnake
[16:23] <ubotu> pythondasnake: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:23] <badiane> isn't plugdev for pluggable devices
[16:23] <vincenz> bazhang: intalling a min system remotely onto it
[16:23] <vincenz> and then using that to boot and finish
[16:23]  * MasterShrek bbiab
[16:24] <MxD> MasterShrek: the network card doesn't work either :/
[16:24] <vegeta> MasterShrek, thx :)
[16:24] <bazhang> vincenz: from usb key? not sure what you mean--your getting a new hard drive--internal presumably; and you dont want to use the live cd--lost you after that
[16:24] <vincenz> bazhang: nono
[16:24] <vincenz> bazhang: my curreent laptop drive has faulty sectors, so I wish to replace it.  I boug a new one and an enclosure
[16:24] <vincenz> bazhang: I'm in ubuntu right now, I'd like to install ubuntu onto that new hd and the swap it with my current hd
[16:25] <badiane> you would have to first prepare the hard drive
[16:25] <bazhang> vincenz: okay, so you want to install to an external usb hdd attached to your laptop?
[16:25] <badiane> and mount it
[16:25] <badiane> then use debootstrap
[16:25] <vincenz> bazhang: yep
[16:25] <badiane> well if you want to go that route
[16:26] <bazhang> badiane: you want to help out here?
[16:26] <badiane> sure
[16:26] <bazhang> vincenz: listen to badiane :}
[16:26] <badiane> vincenz give me a bit more details about your setup
[16:27] <vincenz> badiane: currently I have a laptop with ubuntu the latest
[16:27] <badiane> ok
[16:27] <JustMe> anyone: please how do you set up a password for root
[16:27] <vincenz> badiane: I'm in it right now, but my hd has some faulty sectors
[16:27] <vincenz> so my package system is screwy
[16:27] <badiane> ok
[16:27] <vincenz> got a new 2.5 disk and an enclosure
[16:27] <vincenz> (which I plan to swap once I can boot from it)
[16:28] <AnsweR> hi
[16:28] <Pici> !tab
[16:28] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:28] <badiane> ok
[16:28] <badiane> any corruption
[16:28] <vincenz> badiane: on the old drive, yes, some pacages are corrupt
[16:28] <badiane> is any of your data corrupt
[16:29] <vincenz> oh no
[16:29] <vincenz> and I have backups
[16:29] <badiane> ok
[16:29] <vincenz> it's mostly about how to transition
[16:29] <vincenz> without having to download live cd and burn a cd
[16:29] <JustMe> when I installed there were't a prompt for root to type a password, how do i get a password for root
[16:29] <badiane> now you can get a list of your installed packages
[16:29] <korny|UTF-8> hi
[16:29] <brobostigon> !root | justme
[16:29] <ubotu> justme: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:29] <badiane> by doing dpkg --get-selections > selections.`date +%F`
[16:30] <korny|UTF-8> i have a very stupid question: how can i umount a cd in gnome?
[16:30] <vincenz> badiane: oh, I can manually install extra packages after, I do not mind that, my main problem is with how to get a minimal system onto it
[16:30] <badiane> that's cool
[16:30] <Pici> korny|UTF-8: Right click icon on desktop, there should either be an unmount or eject option
[16:30] <badiane> the reason for the selection is that you can have your old system back from that list
[16:30] <vincenz> but thx for tip
[16:30] <dundel> help please, i configured my dns propally now but i can't browse when i'm on a diffrent subnet, i looked on the net and i found the solution but i don't know what i got to do with it it says that is need to do this allow-recursion { localnets; 192.168.0/16; };
[16:30] <badiane> now
[16:31] <JustMe> yeah
[16:31] <badiane> as long as you can see the external drive
[16:31] <badiane> have you decided how you want to partition it
[16:31] <badiane> or do you want to keep the same partition
[16:31] <vincenz> most likely like my current one
[16:31] <korny|UTF-8> Pici, Desktop ^^ Thanks ^^ tooo idiot proof ;)
[16:31] <JustMe> thanks
[16:31] <preaction> dundel, recursive lookups means that your DNS will also look up names that it is not the authority for. you want to enable them for your local networks. #bind has more information
[16:31] <badiane> ok there is a package called sfdisk
[16:31] <badiane> check to see of you have it
[16:31] <Pici> !enter | badiane
[16:31] <ubotu> badiane: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:32] <badiane> ok
[16:32] <vincenz> badiane: we can pm
[16:32] <badiane> sure.
[16:32] <badiane> thanks ubotu
[16:32] <jjjh> Q: pretty new user, my install is working but I want to know the proper way to login -- the username i created is in root, i want to remove it from root and just use root for installs and whatnot, is that what i do?
[16:32] <jjjh> or should i create a new user completley?
[16:33] <Pici> !sudo | jjjh
[16:33] <ubotu> jjjh: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:33] <jjjh> no but i mean with the default user i craeted on install
[16:33] <jjjh> is that safe to use?
[16:33] <jjjh> because it shows it in the root group
[16:33] <MadRaven> hi all
[16:33] <Pici> jjjh: The admin group you mean?
[16:34] <MadRaven> anybody in here keen with emacs ?
[16:34] <jjjh> no says root
[16:34] <vishal> hi, I removed the bottom panel and i want my windows to maximize using that bottom space, anyone know how i can do that?
[16:34] <Pici> jjjh: Are you using Ubuntu?
[16:34] <jjjh> user settings | group settings (im in root group)
[16:34] <jjjh> yes 7.10
[16:34] <dundel> hmm oke preaction i will check it out, thanks
[16:34] <Pici> jjjh: Are you logged in as root?
[16:34] <jjjh> oh i see
[16:34] <jjjh> no
[16:34] <dundel> but do you know it which file i need to put it?
[16:34] <jjjh> i logged in as the user i created
[16:34] <Pici> jjjh: oh you see what?
[16:35] <kane77> is there anything like synergy, but that would allow files to be dragged between computers?
[16:35] <jjjh> i just wanted to make sure thats the user i should be using
[16:35] <vincenz> badiane: if you do not identify I will not be able to see your PM
[16:35] <jjjh> or should i create a new one
[16:35] <mitchp> kane77: what's synergy?
[16:35] <badiane> how do I identify?
[16:35] <PaulEU> helo!
[16:35] <Pici> jjjh: Did you add your user to root's group?
[16:35] <Pici> !register | badiane
[16:35] <ubotu> badiane: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[16:35] <jjjh> pici no
[16:36] <PaulEU> I have question: Actually I have 7.04 and I
[16:36] <korny|UTF-8> kane77: samba?
[16:36] <jjjh> i just left it default, however it installed it
[16:36] <mitchp> korny|UTF-8: that's what i was going to suggest
[16:36] <PaulEU> I'd like upgrade to 7.10
[16:36] <Pici> jjjh: Can you pastebin the output of `groups` on a terminal?
[16:36] <vincenz> badiane: so I plug it in (I have no idea why USB enclosures have two plugs on one side, I plugged them both in), but nothing is mounted
[16:36] <badiane> ok
[16:36] <kane77> mitchp, a cool program that allows you to use multiple computers just like you had multiple screens..
[16:36] <Pici> !paste | jjjh
[16:36] <ubotu> jjjh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:36] <MxD> hey all!! could someone help me get my integrated ethernet card working?
[16:36] <PaulEU> I inserted CD (shippit) and I'm running from this FAQ: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-to-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[16:36] <korny|UTF-8> mitchp: synergry distributes your mouse an keyboard via ip
[16:37] <PaulEU> and Question is: why it doesn't get packages from CD?
[16:37] <Pici> PaulEU: An alternate CD?
[16:37] <mitchp> kane77: well, if you set up samba on both of them, then you could drag a file into it from one screen, and you'd have it on the other.  You wouldnt' be able to, say, drag it directly from one screen to the next
[16:37] <mitchp> wow that sounds awesome
[16:37] <jjjh> nm i got it pici
[16:37] <jjjh> im not root
[16:37] <PaulEU> Pici: no, I have actually CD ubuntu desktop
[16:37] <Pici> jjjh: You shouldnt be.
[16:37] <PaulEU> Pici: its possible ?
[16:38] <Pici> PaulEU: The Desktop CD cannot be used for upgrades sadly.
[16:38] <PaulEU> Pici: why?
[16:38] <Pici> jjjh: You should be in the admin group, that way you can use sudo to gain root acces, but you will not always have root access.
[16:38] <kane77> korny|UTF-8, yes, I have samba working, but something like that (just dragging files to other computer) would be extra cool :)
[16:38] <vincenz> badiane: how do I find where it is?
[16:38] <Delvien> When I run gnome-system-monitor i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49175/ (repeat again, hopefully someone has seen this )
[16:38] <badiane> if it isn't mounted automatically it doesn't mean that it's not seen by the os.  type fdisk -l and see what that shows
[16:38] <vincenz> aha
[16:38] <vincenz> sdc
[16:39] <mitchp> kane77: there was a program that excecuted a command when you dragged your mouse to the edge of the screen (don't remember what it was called).  you could use that to send the file via samba
[16:39] <PaulEU> Pici: actually synaptic is downloading packages (31 from 1221 packages) Can I must stop download it?
[16:39] <Pici> PaulEU: Because in order to make it a LiveCD and an install CD, changes had to be made to the structure of the disk which precludes it from being used to upgrade.
[16:39] <badiane> cool and you shouldn't have to plug both cables, it may be a slave or uplink
[16:39] <hellboy195> hi, would somebody help me to interpret a smartctl stats overview? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/16850/
[16:39] <Pici> PaulEU: You dont have to stop, but if you dont have broadband, its going to take a long time.
[16:39] <badiane> check to see if you have sfdisk installed
[16:39] <vincenz> I do
[16:39] <Pici> PaulEU: But its not using that CD at all right now.
[16:39] <mitchp> kane77: it would still be a bit clunky, because you'd have to let it go at the edge, and pick it up again from your other desktop, but it would definitely be closer
[16:40] <PaulEU> Pici: oh, I understand.. Now It will take about 8h
[16:40] <kane77> mitchp, heh, yeah... but it's not a bad idea
[16:40] <Guza> hi
[16:40] <PaulEU> Pici: thx for help, on my local channel # nobody know about it
[16:40] <Guza> how can i make install cd from my running kubuntu
[16:41] <Guza> to be same as my kubuntu
[16:41] <Guza> :)
[16:41] <skullhead> hello im using crossover to run counterstrike source but have no audio in menu or in game dos any one know what i can do?
[16:41] <bundagan> i just upgraded to Gusty, i am noticing that python and pygtk seem unstable
[16:41] <bundagan> is apt-get update; upgrade advised?
[16:41] <Guza> does someone know
[16:41] <badiane> ok now  sfdisk -d <your original drive>  > sdc.out
[16:41] <vincenz> badiane: I do have sfdisk installed, if you would like, I made a channel #badiane, less spammy
[16:42] <Javid> If I wanted to remove Ubuntu from a dualbooting system, how would I restore the bootloader? I don't have a CD drive I can stick a windows cd in and fixmbr from, is it possible to keep grub?
[16:42] <brobostigon> bundagan: !apt
[16:42] <vincenz> badiane: I do not wish for an exact copy tho, since my original disk has a windows partition :D
[16:42] <Delvien> lol gnash flash player locks up my computer .. :(
[16:42] <mitchp> bundagan: you should be upgrading regularly anyway.  apt-get upgrade isn't any different from the icon that shows up in gnome.  however i dont know if it does an update first or not (I would think so)
[16:42] <badiane> hold on before you do that I have to aks you if the drives are of the same size
[16:43] <badiane> do you want to keep that windows partition
[16:43] <PaulEU> Pici: ups.. I forgot one question: can I pause downloading packages for upgrade?
[16:43] <vincenz> badiane: yes, but I don't want an exact copy, where can I find that textual gui you get at install to setup the drive?
[16:43] <mitchp> bundagan: and i could be wrong, but i think it's always a good idea to do a quick upgrade if something's misbehaving
[16:43] <Tilllinux> you won't believe it! heroes of might and magic V is running with wine very nicely... the only thing that doesn't work is the rotation by mouse, but that work's with the keyboard ;)
[16:43] <guipenguin> Hello... has anyone else had a probem getting flash to work in firefox? I couldn't get Adobe flash to work.. so I isntalled that open source flash player through firefox..... bad idea, it's complete crap. How do I go about uninstalling it?
[16:43] <Pici> PaulEU: If you cancel in the middle of the download process (not the install process) it should left off from where it began.
[16:43] <badiane> I use cfdisk
[16:44] <badiane> try cfdisk
[16:44] <PaulEU> Pici: ok, thx
[16:44] <schlonzo> hello, can anybody pls tell me how to add a new session to my system?
[16:44] <skullhead> hello im using crossover to run counterstrike source but have no audio in menu or in game dos any one know what i can do?
[16:45] <brobostigon> schlonzo: menu /system/prefs/sessions
[16:45] <VSpike> My firefox is not showing a java plugin in about:plugins, but I do have the sun JRE installed.  Can anyone help me diagnose?  I have a libjavaplugin.so link in  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[16:45] <schlonzo> i just can add programms there
[16:45] <schlonzo> i want something to choose like "GNOME" or "failsafe mode"
[16:45] <micro_cz> ufff
[16:45] <micro_cz> sorry
[16:46] <Pici> skullhead: Crossover is third party, you should have support through them.
[16:46] <vincenz> badiane: three primaries?
[16:46] <brobostigon> schlonzo: system/admin/login window
[16:47] <zobban> hi there, i had a user named mike now when i deleted him i can not delet his files i deleted they went to .baschcr somthing now iwant to delete all his files they are till there it says i dont have the permission to do that i am admin of my pc
[16:47] <brobostigon> maybe?
[16:47] <Pici> zobban: how did you delete his user?
[16:47] <badiane> ok is cfdisk the kind of tool you were looking for
[16:47] <vincenz> badiane: it seems fine :)
[16:47] <zobban> system>admin>users from GUI
[16:47] <vincenz> badiane: three primaries is ine, right? with my swap as last
[16:47] <badiane> ok do you want to use lvm
[16:48] <schlonzo> there are the sessions i already have,but how can i add?
[16:48] <badiane> I like to use one primary for boot and use one large logical for lvm
[16:48] <vincenz> lvm?
[16:48] <qcode> It's 36 freezing degrees outside...
[16:48] <bundagan> looks like my problems are in the new c-types based pyopengl
[16:48] <Pici> zobban: Are you using sudo when you try to delete the directory?
[16:48] <qcode> freezing my balls
[16:48] <Pici> !offtopic | qcode
[16:48] <bazhang> qcode: offtopic
[16:48] <ubotu> qcode: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:48] <vincenz> badiane: I'm not certain what lvm is.  I just want a 10GB for /, then the rest -2GB for /home and then 2GB for swap
[16:48] <VSpike> zobban, "sudo rm -rf /home/mike" .. be careful to get the right path as this will delete what you tell it
[16:48] <Tilllinux> how is the software (some kde program) called, that's able to convert mdfs/... to iso?
[16:49] <zobban> nope i am from GUI i open his mapp directory i click to remove them it says i dont have permissions
[16:49] <qcode> oooppps.. sorry
[16:49] <qcode> couldn't help it
[16:49] <badiane> that give me a lot of flexibility.  LVM is logical volume management.  It allows you to use only the space that you need and if you want to create a new partition it's ok and if you want to extend your partition it's ok too
[16:49] <Javid> If I wanted to remove Ubuntu from a dualbooting system, how would I restore the bootloader? I don't have a CD drive I can stick a windows cd in and fixmbr from, is it possible to keep grub?
[16:49] <vincenz> badiane: oh, no need :)
[16:49] <Pici> zobban: Like I said, you need to use sudo from a terminal or run `gksudo nautilus` to delete it.  Your use has sudo access, not full admin access.
[16:49] <butcherbird> !fixmbr > Javid
[16:50] <AngryElf> I downloaded and installed the ATI driver from ati.com -- now i have working dual monitors, but I can't enable ant effects -- It's saying that the composite extension isn't availble -- there is Option "Composite" "0"  in my xorg.conf -- should that be "1"??
[16:50] <butcherbird> Javid: wait you want to restore the windows loader?
[16:50] <Javid> I want to make it boot after I nuke and pave my ext3 partition
[16:50] <MxD> Hi all. Could someone help me get X started? when it starts, the screen goes black
[16:50] <Javid> the means to do so are irrelevant to me
[16:50] <bundagan> MxD, using ATI?
[16:50] <badiane> it's extremelly flexible but if you don't want too it's ok, I would suggest one primary and on logical on which you will set swap and root
[16:50] <bazhang> Javid: best ask in ##windows
[16:51] <butcherbird> Javid: thats why i usually install grub to its own partition /boot  you can i think fdisk /mbr or somesuch
[16:51] <butcherbird> Javid: the fdisk is command from windows rescue disk
[16:51] <vincenz> badiane: not all primaries?
[16:51] <Javid> I do not possess a drive in which to put a rescue disk of any kind.
[16:51] <MxD> bundagan: nVidia
[16:51] <ifireball> AngryElf: sounds right, why don't you just try it, worst case you change it back from the console...
[16:52] <vincenz> badiane: right now I have three primaries, 1 bootable, for /, 1 big one for /home and then 1 for swap
[16:52] <bonheurd> yé
[16:52] <zobban> well i did like this su then it went to root promt i am removin from terminal and i will see if they are still there now
[16:52] <badiane> no just boot as primary and then create a logical which you will subdivide into swap and root
[16:52] <bazhang> Javid: this is about installing windows and wiping ubuntu; not an ubuntu issue
[16:52] <pteague_work> how do i change the default application that a file opens in?
[16:52] <vincenz> badiane: when you say root, you mean /home?
[16:52] <ifireball> pteague_work: in Gnome?
[16:52] <pteague_work> &/or is it possible to do it based on a location (i.e. localhost vs elsewhere)
[16:52] <pteague_work> yes, in gnome
[16:52] <Pici> !sudo > zobban (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:52] <Javid> I figured I'd get a resounding "Not it!" if I asked for help uninstalling.
[16:53] <ifireball> pteague_work: right clieck a file -> properties -> open with
[16:53] <bazhang> this is a support channel Javid, not a chat channel
[16:53] <badiane> root the top of the filesystem tree.  you can separate all of the subdirectories when you install and I've taken the habbit of separating my boot partition where the kernels and ramdisk reside from the rest of the system
[16:53] <zobban> i deleted i used rm  -rf user now i go to gui i search for there files the files are still there
[16:54] <pteague_work> ifireball> yes, but that doesn't set the default
[16:54] <Javid> Fine. I need to know how to get rid of ubuntu and keep grub. If you don't know, don't answer. ^^
[16:54] <Pici> zobban: Did you actually delete /home/user ? or what?
[16:54] <vincenz> badiane: how big is the bootable one then
[16:54] <neverblue> zobban, can you cd into it from command line ?
[16:54] <zobban> no i deletede just the user rm -rf user
[16:54] <MxD> bundagan, nVidia
[16:54] <zobban> do i need to delete allso /home
[16:54] <ifireball> pteague_work: you can add things to the list, and you can set the default by putting the dot next to it
[16:55] <MxD> bundagan, yt?
[16:55] <schlonzo> join #ubuntu-de
[16:55] <badiane> but you can do it your way also it will be simpler with grub.  The boot partition could be around 100M to be safe if you are not going to be having a lot of kernels like I do
[16:55] <neverblue> zobban, i would strongly recommend against that
[16:55] <Pici> zobban: You said you want to delete that users home directory, right?
[16:55] <bazhang> zobban dont
[16:55] <vincenz> badiane: how do I split up the logical one?
[16:55] <zobban> yes i want to remove all their files and that user is not that enough rm -rf user
[16:56] <Pici> zobban: What directory are you doing that command in?
[16:56] <zobban> i mean sudo rm -rf user
[16:56] <zobban> i am doing from root>
[16:56] <badiane> cfdisk will ask you to chose either primary or logical
[16:56] <YeTr2> zobban: don't use rm just yet
[16:56] <vincenz> badiane: right, but then the logical one ... is just one partition
[16:56] <badiane> you can make the remainder of the drive after you've created a boot partition
[16:56] <YeTr2> zobban: use the find command to locate all files owned by the user in the machine
[16:56] <badiane> yes and then you can subdivide it by selecting it and creating another partition
[16:56] <opapo> I followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox and can't get my virtual box to network boot
[16:57] <Pici> YeTr2: There shouldnt be anything outside of home thats owned by that user.
[16:57] <neverblue> zobban, helps 'alot' if you reply to previously asked questions
[16:58] <YeTr2> Pici: there are places in /var and /tmp that a user's files can end up.
[16:58] <zobban> well now there are some users say do that some says dont do that who to listen
[16:58] <Pici> YeTr2: /tmp is cleared on boot
[16:58] <neverblue> thats the choice you have to make zobban
[16:58] <vincenz> badiane: not in cdisk
[16:58] <zobban> listen i have a user and he has files i want to remove this user and his files forever
[16:58] <neverblue> zobban, can you cd into it from command line ?
[16:58] <YeTr2> Pici: and the mail/cron/at stuff in /var ?
[16:59] <neverblue> ill repeat, as it appears necessary
[16:59] <vincenz> badiane: you can't split up logical partitions in cfdisk
[16:59] <fivre> I'm trying to run a 7.10 LiveCD on a PowerMac G4 and not getting very far, any help?
[16:59] <Pici> YeTr2: I doubt he has those to be honest.
[16:59] <badiane> yep
[16:59] <YeTr2> Pici: and that would be what the find command is for.
[16:59] <zobban> yes i did cd and rm -rf user and now i open gui search for files the files are still there in baschs something
[16:59] <vegeta> Anyone know a good burning soft for iso files ????
[16:59] <MxD> I'm having problems with getting the GUI started. I have an integrated gfx crd, and a pcie gfx crd
[16:59] <Delvien> Whats up with installing flash ? every single time it fails when installing from repos / downloading from adobe site
[16:59] <Pici> YeTr2: Would you like to continue helping him?
[16:59] <butcherbird> vegeta: your file manager can do this
[16:59] <Pici> !who | zobban
[16:59] <ubotu> zobban: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:59] <brobostigon> fivre: whats the problem??
[17:00] <butcherbird> vegeta: for general cd burning though i like k3b
[17:00] <durand> #debian.fr
[17:00] <Redbull16_138179> redet deutsch
[17:00] <vincenz> badiane: ok, got it :)
[17:00] <YeTr2> Pici: not a chance, I'm having to master HPUX right now, I just can stand to see bad/incomplete advice given
[17:00] <vincenz> badiane: using fdisk
[17:00] <LjL> !de  | Redbull16_138179
[17:00] <ubotu> Redbull16_138179: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:00] <badiane> that's why they exist.  it to get around the limitations of only four primary partitions.  If you wanted to separate your logs, www, lib under var and still have home, user, opt as separate partitions you wold run out of primary partitions quickly
[17:00] <neverblue> zobban: 'cd /home/user' then type 'ls' :: do you see anything in that users directory ? (this has nothing to do with a GUI )
[17:00] <fivre> brobostigon: I get a screen that says "Loading, PLease Wait" and then a black screen with a cursor
[17:00] <Pici> YeTr2: I understand, I didn't think of the cron stuff (/me makes mental note)
[17:00] <fivre> Boglizk: nothing happens from there
[17:00] <fivre> bleh
[17:00] <fivre> brobostigon: nothing happens from there
[17:00] <Pici> YeTr2: Although I would think that the gnome remove user thing *should* do that.
[17:01] <brobostigon> fivre: does it say initramfs at the start
[17:01] <YeTr2> Pici: I don't know, I don't use gui tools
[17:01] <fivre> oh wait, now it's doing something
[17:01] <fivre> just slow
[17:02] <zobban> this is what error i get now when i use gksudo nauiltiuts to delete all their files
[17:02] <zobban> totem-video-thumbnailer couln't open file 'file:///root/.Trash/aaa.wmv'
[17:02] <[locke]> replaced mobo and proc after burn out.  processor went from 2gHz to 3 gHz.  Conky still reads CPU info at 2gHz.  Do I have to reconfigure something for faster processor to be recognized?
[17:03] <neverblue> [locke] do you see the CPU speed at boot ?
[17:03] <ampex> locke: what type of processor? does it support dynamic frequency scaling?
[17:03] <[locke]> BIOS reads correctly
[17:03] <vincenz> badiane: pming you
[17:03] <[locke]> intel core2duo
[17:03] <zobban> their files ended up in .Trash how can i remove forever those stupid files
[17:03] <vincenz> badiane: does that look ok?
[17:04] <neverblue> [locke], then maybe its the app 'conky' thats incorrect
[17:04] <kunami> have a problem with amarok on ubuntu 7.10
[17:04] <neverblue> could cache the data....
[17:04] <kunami> can anyone help?
[17:04] <[locke]> and I'm not sure about dynamic freq scaling
[17:04] <neverblue> kunami, maybe describe the problem, as we will not know if we can help until then
[17:04] <brobostigon> !ask | kunami
[17:04] <ubotu> kunami: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:04] <kunami> since the upgrade i have no sound
[17:04] <kunami> :)
[17:04] <neverblue> [locke], try other sources to confirm your CPU speeds
[17:05] <yasuo> hi, i just wanted to ask if a can ask a question?
[17:05] <ampex> locke: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[17:05] <neverblue> kunami, why is that, im assuming you have checked some settings...
[17:05] <ampex> locke: what does it show?
[17:05] <kunami> default
[17:05] <kunami> i'm using amarok defaults
[17:06] <neverblue> kunami, if you reply directly to the questions ask, this goes alot smoother
[17:06] <Emperor_Norton> anybody know anything about ffmpeg?
[17:06] <[locke]> ampex, 2997000.  looks like it scales frequency.  cool!  thanks for the help.
[17:06] <kunami> i can play everything with rhytmbix
[17:06] <kunami> i can play everything with rhytmbox
[17:06] <sonja> i'm using Exaile, it's Ubuntu version of amarok?
[17:06] <zobban> i have 80gb hardrive , but when i click on my computer filesystem it shows its 39gb drive where is my other 40gb how can i see that
[17:06] <badiane> ok! so you have 9G for root and 66G for home and 2G for swap
[17:07] <kunami> neverble: ok
[17:07] <brobostigon> zobban: sudo fdisk -l, df -h
[17:08] <hellboy195> sonja: hmm ubuntu version? jo mean gtk version ;)
[17:08] <badiane> the advantage of using lvm
[17:09] <Cyber34> I tried enabling the restricted driver in the Restricted Driver window, and on rebooting I get a lovely black screen, I haven't had a similar issue in a while, so can Anyone tell me where xorg.conf and the xorg.conf.default is that I have to copy over it to fix the issue is?
[17:09] <Azzmodan> /etc/X11
[17:09] <kunami> can anyone help?
[17:10] <Cyber34> Thankee Sai
[17:10] <badiane> sorry for the enter as punctuation thing.  The advantage of using LVM is that if you make a mistake in the size of a partition you can add to it or create more dynamically.  Let's say that for some reason you have a lot of programs and your logs or whatever it is, packages from not having updating the system in a long time start to take a lot of space the you are kind of screwed and have to do a lot of management stuff
[17:10] <vincenz> badiane: interesting, that's why I always keep my number of partitions reduced
[17:10] <|DrEaMeR|> badiane: and disadvantages ?
[17:10] <kunami> have a problem with amarok on ubuntu 7.10, since the upgrade i have no sound
[17:11] <Azzmodan> Now you just need to make it 1 lvm partition and then you can grow it forever!
[17:12] <Drixx> how do i back up my system to restore it if required ?
[17:12] <Pici> !backup > Drixx (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:12] <kunami> have a problem with amarok on ubuntu 7.10, since the upgrade i have no sound, anyone to help??
[17:12] <brobostigon> !backup | drixx
[17:12] <ubotu> drixx: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:13] <chmoder> Hey Guys!  I just got back home for Christmas Break and I need to know if there is a way to forward port 80 from my isp to my house?
[17:13] <kunami> is there any other channel where to post my question?
[17:13] <chmoder> I think my ISP is blocking it
[17:13] <Pici> kunami: Do you have sound anywhere?
[17:14] <kunami> pici: yes
[17:14] <ttt--> how can i make ubuntu run faster if i only have 256mb ram, and firefox takes ages
[17:14] <Pici> chmoder: Thats kind of offtopic for here, you can try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps ##networking
[17:14] <brobostigon> chmoder: port 80, is the http port, if you can access http, its not blocked.
[17:14] <Pici> brobostigon: incorrect, and offtopic.
[17:14] <chmoder> Pici: Thanks very much
[17:15] <chmoder> --> Blocked incoming i believe
[17:15] <brobostigon> sorry, i thought that was right.
[17:15] <Pici> brobostigon: hes trying to run a webserver, but this is offtopic./
[17:15] <kbrosnan_> ttt--: try Epiphany as a replacement for firefox, it is much better on low ram systems
[17:15] <Pici> kunami: If you run amarok from a terminal, and try to play something, do any errors come up in the terminal?
[17:15] <Delvien> So I run gnome system monitor and I get the following error ---------"terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::FileError' Aborted (core dumped)"--------
[17:15] <ttt--> thanks kbrosnan_
[17:16] <kunami> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[17:16] <kunami> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8097f18 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[17:16] <kunami> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[17:16] <kunami> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8097f18 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[17:16] <kunami> QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow
[17:16] <kunami> QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments
[17:16] <kunami>         StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)
[17:16] <brobostigon> !pastebin | kunami
[17:16] <ubotu> kunami: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:17] <lvdave> Question: how does one upDATE 7.04 SERVER via command line? I don't want to upGRADE to 7.10.. I tried apt-get update-manager, and it appeared to be installing the entire GUI system, which I dont want on the server. Is there a command line equiv for update-manager?
[17:18] <brobostigon> lvdave: sudo apt-get upgrade, i think it is
[17:18] <lvdave> brobostigon: doesnt that upGRADE to 7.10 though?
[17:19] <Delvien> lvdave sudo apt-get upgrade only does upgrades for the current version
[17:19] <brobostigon> no,try it
[17:19] <lvdave> ok will do ty!!!
[17:19] <Delvien> lvdave now if you were to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, that would upgrade it to 7.10
[17:19] <kunami> Don't have sound on amarok since upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10, have soung
[17:20] <Pici> kunami: can you pastebin that error that you were getting...
[17:20] <Pici> !paste | kunami
[17:20] <ubotu> kunami: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:20] <lvdave> Thanks all!! that seems to be working fine!!!
[17:20] <brobostigon> welcome lvdave
[17:20] <Delvien> :)
[17:21] <kunami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49181/
[17:23] <kaddict> hi all
[17:24] <kaddict> I'd like to know how to launch an app onto desktop #2 on startup (or with command) please if anyone knows. thanks alot
[17:24] <bluefox83> !songbird
[17:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:24] <bluefox83> hrm
[17:25] <qcode> kaddict: try app --display 0:2  or something like that
[17:25] <kunami> Don't have sound on amarok since upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10, have sound in every other apps, can anyone help?
[17:26] <sqlnoob> someone please help, I've spent the whole morning trying to make the sound work with no luck
[17:26] <sinnlos> does anyone know how to install an web'n'walk stick from tmobile ( hsdpa modem )  lsusb ausgabe: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0af0:6971 Option
[17:26] <grout> kunarmi: was it a clean install or upgrade?
[17:26] <kunami> upgrade
[17:26] <brobostigon> !sound | sqlnoob
[17:27] <ubotu> sqlnoob: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:27] <Arvid> I have a 70GB file on a 100GB harddrive which I wish to compress (tar.gz is fine). how do I do?
[17:27] <sqlnoob> I've downloaded the alsa-firmware and alsa-drivers but i can't make it work
[17:27] <ToddEDM> ?
[17:27] <ToddEDM> is there a way to open a MS WORKS document in Ubuntu?
[17:28] <Ttech> Open Office ToddEDM
[17:28] <_mug> hoi
[17:28] <ToddEDM> its not opening my .wps file
[17:29] <UstA> how can i find qmail autoisntaller for Ubuntu 4
[17:29] <ToddEDM> ok Ttech , it worked
[17:29] <kye> whats a good and easy app used for converting AVI to DVD?
[17:29] <ToddEDM>  thank you
[17:29] <sqlnoob> so I see the alsa-firmware-loaders in synaptic but it doesn't want to install from there
[17:29] <Ttech> ToddEDM, No problem. :)
[17:29] <kunami> Don't have sound on amarok since upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10, have sound in every other apps, can anyone help?
[17:29] <pteague_work> anybody know how i can get conflicts in aptitude for packages that aren't installed &/or are virtual ?
[17:29] <kye> whats a good , FAST, and easy app used for converting AVI to DVD?
[17:29] <kaddict> qcode: not working, no display there. I'm using compiz so xgl is on 0:1 and normal 0:0 if I remember well, but I'd like to start an application on the second *virtual* desktop.
[17:29] <sqlnoob> i mark it for installation and it says "alsa-firmware-loaders: Depends: fxload but it is not installable"
[17:30] <UstA> how can i find qmail auto install script for Ubuntu 4 ?
[17:30] <kaddict> sqlnoob maybe you miss some more sources for deb packages?
[17:30] <sqlnoob> Please help I've spent all morning and no luck, i've read many forums and troubleshooters and nothing..
[17:31] <sqlnoob> kaddict: im very new at linux, what other packets would I need?
[17:31] <onionz> i've been trying to boot from my ubuntu cd on mac os x but holding down the "c" key while powering on isn't working. anyone have any ideas?
[17:31] <kaddict> you need another dependancy but can't download/install it so I just guess that your synaptic can't fetch it because it does not know about it
[17:31] <sqlnoob> kaddict: I've downloaded everything from alsa's website, I just don't know what to do with it anymore.. nothing compiles
[17:32] <kaddict> my linux is french but in synaptic under configuration which should be the same for you, I can configure the sources. add some more
[17:32] <tim167> I'm making a website, I use Gedit now to just edit the html code, I'm kinda limited that way (duh), can you suggest a good program for making a website? preferably easy to use, i havent got much experience in this... thanks
[17:32] <sqlnoob> kaddict: I added the firmware and drivers folder downloaded from alsa, i dont know what else to add
[17:32] <erUSUL> sqlnoob: got to System>dmin>Software Sources and check all boxes from the first tab to get all sources
[17:32] <kaddict> dont get alsa from the site, but with synaptic, once it will be properly configured. try a google hit for "adding synaptic sources"
[17:33] <velko> tim167, try something designed especially for html editing like bluefish or quanta
[17:33] <sqlnoob> erUSUL: even the "source code" option?
[17:34] <tim167> velko, does such a program allow for example changing fonts for the whole site ?
[17:34] <erUSUL> sqlnoob: you may no  need it but it does not harm
[17:35] <herbi1> hi everyone
[17:35] <sqlnoob> erUSUL: ok done
[17:35] <sqlnoob> erUSUL: it's downloading the packets, what should be my next step?
[17:36] <velko> tim167, i don't quiet understand your question. what these programs do is easing the input of raw html, js, css etc. if you use (global) css definition for the  site fonts, than yes
[17:36] <sqlnoob> kaddict: I downloaded them and added them to synaptic.. is that correct?
[17:36] <kunami> Don't have sound on amarok since upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10, have sound in every other apps, can anyone help?
[17:36] <herbi1> im using aMSN and when i configure my webcam it says its checking to see if 'snack' is loaded...  I have looked everywhere for snack.. what the heck is it and how do i load it?   cant find any references to 'snack'
[17:36] <kaddict> should be sqlnoob, I can't say
[17:36] <velko> tim167, what they _don't_ do is visual editing a la frontpage
[17:37] <kunami> is there any other channel where to post my question?
[17:37] <kaddict> If anyone could help me please: im looking for a way to launch an application on another virtual desktop under gnome (like starting a console on desk 2 while im in desk 1 or at startup)
[17:37] <bazhang> sqlnoob: you downloaded from a website and tried to add them as a source for synaptic? that is not what you want to do
[17:37] <velko> kunami, you may try #alsa
[17:38] <herbi1> m using aMSN and when i configure my webcam it says its checking to see if 'snack' is loaded...  I have looked everywhere for snack.. what the heck is it and how do i load it?   cant find any references to 'snack'
[17:38] <kunami> velko thanks!
[17:38] <mrc> hi, am i in the right place for help connecting to a network in a new ubuntu install
[17:38] <arnath01> there's a software technology that allows you to boot over a network (ie without a harddisk), what is it called again?
[17:38] <sqlnoob> bazhang: oh.. ok then.. what am i supposed to do to get it to work? I don't even get the firmware listed on  restricted drivers manager
[17:38] <magic_ninja> how do you reconfigure your mouse
[17:38] <bazhang> sqlnoob: is synaptic open now?
[17:39] <Orfintain> give it some cheese idk)
[17:39] <bascule> arnath01: PXE
[17:39] <Orfintain> how do i get to the terminal?
[17:39] <rbmorse> arnath01: Is that pxe?
[17:39] <LjL> !terminal > Orfintain    (Orfintain, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:39] <sqlnoob> bazhang: it's downloading all packages from all sources as erUSUL suggested
[17:39] <arnath01> bascule: rbmorse hmm, could be, depends on how it works hehe :)
[17:40] <snowbird> how  do i configure   dial up modem
[17:40] <snowbird> will it be  picked  up  as new hardware?
[17:40] <bascule> arnath01: pxe is intel, there is another afaik
[17:40] <Lun4t1c> Does any body know how to open ports for SSH?
[17:40] <velko> arnath01, ltsp? tftp?
[17:40] <bazhang> sqlnoob: okay. in the future install packages from synaptic,and not random stuff from websites; that is what the repos are for.
[17:41] <RioCunliffe> Heyy, i have a problem.. my volume isnt working and whenever i click on volume control i get the error 'No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.' can anyone help???
[17:41] <sqlnoob> bazhang: by the way, thanks for your help yesterday about the wirless, I fixed it although it runs slow and it behaves weird at times, but it works
[17:41] <bascule> Lun4t1c: iptables -A INPUT -p 22 -j ACCEPT
[17:41] <arnath01> bascule: velko the idea here would be to load an entire system into the memory (albeit a small one) over LAN, then possibly NFS some dirs and work like that
[17:41] <tim167> velko do you know of a 'visual editing' program a la frontpage ?
[17:41] <bascule> Lun4t1c: assuming you use 22
[17:41] <sqlnoob> bazhang: the reason I downloaded it is cause it wasn't in the synaptic packets
[17:41] <Lun4t1c> tnx bascule :)
[17:41] <bascule> arnath01: good luck with that :)
[17:42] <RioCunliffe> tim167: KompoZer is your best bet
[17:42] <arnath01> bascule: that hard? :<
[17:42] <velko> arnath01, look if this suits your need http://www.ltsp.org/
[17:42] <bascule> Lun4t1c: maybe change A to I
[17:42] <mrc> anyone know why my NIC doesn't report an IP with ipconfig
[17:42] <arnath01> velko: ah, that's the one i was looking for i think! :)
[17:43] <RioCunliffe> Heyy, i have a problem.. my volume isnt working and whenever i click on volume control i get the error 'No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.' can anyone help???
[17:43] <tim167> RioCunliffe ah thanks I'll have a look at that
[17:43] <velko> tim167, i know that mozilla has some visual editor, open office also. i don't know how they compare to frontpage, because i never used any of them. they all tend to create messy code imho
[17:43] <RioCunliffe> tim167: No Problem :)
[17:44] <tim167> velko, well my code has become just as messy editing by hand ...so... :p
[17:44] <mrc> having very basic network problems and I need some experienced help
[17:44] <velko> tim167, :-)
[17:44] <herbi1> m using aMSN and when i configure my webcam it says its checking to see if 'snack' is loaded...  I have looked everywhere for snack.. what the heck is it and how do i load it?   cant find any references to 'snack'
[17:45] <sqlnoob> herbi1: Snack is a library
[17:46] <PaulEU> hello! I have question: is it possible to retrieve list packages in stage upgrade? Actually I'm downloading packages (upgrade 7.04 -> 7.10). I'd like retrieve list packages on other machine with better connection
[17:46] <herbi1> sqlnoob ok.... how does it get loaded?
[17:46] <sqlnoob> sudo cp /lib/libsnackstub2.2.a /usr/lib/
[17:46] <sqlnoob> sudo cp -R /lib/snack2.2 /usr/lib/
[17:47] <PaulEU> is it possible to get this list of packages?
[17:47] <herbi1> thanks  sqlnoob
[17:47] <sqlnoob> no problem
[17:47] <nono_> hasta luego
[17:47] <sqlnoob> you can get it from Gutsy
[17:47] <joco> valaki magyarul?
[17:47] <ip00n> ENGLISH
[17:48] <PaulEU> who anybody know? ;)
[17:48] <brendonw> Torren2: You solved your swap problem?  You replied to my by mistake... but I can help!
[17:48] <cilou> ya des francais ?
[17:48] <Orfintain> hey
[17:48] <joco> magyarul?
[17:48] <Orfintain> dumb question
[17:49] <Pici> !fr | cilou
[17:49] <ubotu> cilou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:49] <PaulEU> Pici: can you give me one advice?
[17:49] <Orfintain> how to know what video card you have?
[17:49] <hyper___ch> is there any known problem with today's mysql update?
[17:49] <Pici> PaulEU: perhaps
[17:49] <Jolinar> Hi, i'm trying to get idjc to allow me to add music to the playlist, i have been told it might be my encoders that i need to meddle with but i have no idea how to fix it
[17:49] <PaulEU> Pici: I have question:
[17:49] <ifireball> Orfintain: lspci
[17:49] <PaulEU> Is it possible to retrieve list packages in stage upgrade? Actually I'm downloading packages (upgrade 7.04 -> 7.10). I'd like retrieve list packages on other machine with better connection
[17:50] <Pici> PaulEU: I'm not sure what you mean by that.
[17:50] <ifireball> Orfintain: also preferneces -> Hardware Information
[17:50] <herbi1> sqlnoob   no such file   /lib/libsnackstub2.2.a
[17:50] <PaulEU> Pici: I'd like retrieve packages on other machine with better connection speed
[17:50] <Orfintain> thanks
[17:51] <PaulEU> Pici: my 256Kbit/s is too slow, and after 2h synaptic download 217 packages (must be 1221)
[17:52] <Pici> PaulEU: There really isnt a way to download just the packages from a different machine. but you could download the alternate CD and use that to upgrade.
[17:52] <PaulEU> and I'd like to retrieve packages remaining
[17:52] <quaal> anyone know about uninstalling ubuntu studio?
[17:53] <quaal> i'm trying to upgrade to 7.10
[17:53] <Pici> PaulEU: Unless you can move the connection to the machine thats downloading, there is no way to do that.
[17:53] <Tilllinux> quaal: me ;)
[17:53] <quaal> and i get this http://pastebin.ca/827282
[17:53] <quaal> im pretty much over ubuntustudio though
[17:53] <quaal> so i would like to uninstall it
[17:53] <quaal> or if the upgrade to 7.10 restores it back to normal ubuntu that would be fine
[17:53] <quaal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484651
[17:53] <quaal> i found this
[17:54] <quaal> Tilllinux, how did you do it
[17:54] <sqlnoob> herbil: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/9.3/i386/suse/i586/snack-2.2.9-4.i586.html
[17:55] <Jolinar> Hi, i'm trying to get idjc to allow me to add music to the playlist, i have been told it might be my encoders that i need to meddle with but i have no idea how to fix it
[17:55] <sqlnoob> erUSUL: ok everything was downloaded, what should I do next?
[17:55] <Emperor_Norton> idjc is a bitch to get working
[17:55] <sqlnoob> how do I install the alsa drivers? I do ./configure and it doesn't work..
[17:57] <Pici> sqlnoob: What was that rpm link for?
[17:57] <nono_> Anyone know any program to record the webcam? Thanks
[17:57] <Pici> sqlnoob: Ubuntu does not use rpms, you know that right?
[17:57] <sqlnoob> Pici: he needs the snack packet to make his webcam work
[17:57] <velko> nono_, i do it with mencoder
[17:57] <Tilllinux> quaal: yes it indeed does
[17:57] <quaal> Tilllinux, yes to which
[17:57] <quaal> sorry
[17:57] <sqlnoob> Pici: it doesnt? ah.. my bad.. sorry
[17:57] <Pici> sqlnoob: So installing a package intended for suse is the answer??
[17:58] <Tilllinux> I upgraded from a 7.04 studio to a more or less vanilla 7.10 gutsy and then again to a 7.10 studio
[17:58] <Pici> !rpm | sqlnoob
[17:58] <ubotu> sqlnoob: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[17:58] <nono_> Velko, thxs
[17:58] <quaal> Tilllinux, ah i see
[17:58] <quaal> so you just removed those lines from the sources.list
[17:58] <velko> nono_, for my webcam i use: mencoder tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:forceaudio:adevice=/dev/dsp -fps 25 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=64:mode=3 -o test.avi
[17:58] <LjL> nono_: i suggest typing « apt-cache search webcam » in a terminal. there is plenty
[17:58] <sqlnoob> Pici: sorry im very new oto Ubuntu, I'm used to red hat.
[17:59] <nono_> ok thxs
[17:59] <Ome> Salut tout le monde :)
[17:59] <vishal> HI, I need help, I cant get my sound card working
[17:59] <LjL> !info cheese > nono_ just an example
[17:59] <Ome> oups ! sorry
[17:59] <Ome> Hello Everybody
[17:59] <sqlnoob> Ome: slt
[17:59] <sqlnoob> hahaha
[18:00] <sqlnoob> wheres erUSUL :(
[18:02] <butcherbird> !sound | vishal
[18:02] <ubotu> vishal: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:02] <sqlnoob> Yes, I already got that before and I already did that and it's not working
[18:02] <herbi1> sqlnoob  cannot find   any reference to snack on the CD   any other ideas?
[18:03] <Amfetameen> ?
[18:03] <Amfetameen> lo lo
[18:03] <sqlnoob> herbil: to google for Ubuntu's Snack packet
[18:03] <Pici> herbi1: just do this:  `sudo apt-get install libsnack2`
[18:04] <herbi1> thanks again  sqlnoob    ill give it a try
[18:04] <sqlnoob> herbil: no problem, sorry i can't be of more help
[18:05] <krabador> hi people,  i followed this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[18:05] <krabador> for building a pendrive with gutsy
[18:05] <krabador> it works
[18:05] <krabador> but when i load in persistent mode
[18:05] <krabador> i load live session
[18:06] <krabador> without any saving
[18:06] <Pici> !enter | krabador
[18:06] <ubotu> krabador: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:06] <no_name> has anyone tried installing Ubuntu with Wubi?
[18:06] <krabador> sorry!
[18:06] <vishal>   
[18:06] <vishal>  
[18:06] <vishal>  
[18:07] <vishal>  
[18:07] <vishal>  
[18:07] <vishal>  
[18:07] <Palomides> :/
[18:07] <Pici> vishal: please dont.
[18:07] <michael_> hi, how can I see if a package is installed or not, using aptitude, apt-get, or the like?
[18:07] <krabador> someone had build a ubuntu pendrive with gutsy succesful_
[18:07] <Odd-rationale> michael_: You can use synaptic
[18:08] <judgement> anybody uses userful in here?
[18:08] <michael_> thanks odd-rationale, i'm looking for a command-line way of doing it?
[18:08] <opapo> where can I find VBoxAddIF
[18:08] <Pici> judgement: This is a support channel... so yes.
[18:08] <velko> krabador, by the way - there are easier methods for creating live cd/dvd/flash disks. you type just two commands and have the live image: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> michael_: Then I would use aptitude
[18:09] <michael_> Odd-rationale: thanks, although i don't know the command to see if a package is installed.  For instance, apt-cache showpkg shows a bunch of crap, but not if it's installed.
[18:09] <Odd-rationale> michael_: Try sudo aptititude
[18:09] <Pici> michael_: dpkg -l package or aptitude show package will both tell you if they are installed or not or even apt-cache show package
[18:09] <herbi1> many thanks SQLNOOB  that did it.
[18:09] <michael_> Pici: got it!  thanks!
[18:09] <herbi1> thanks again sqlnoob
[18:09] <sqlnoob> herbil: glad I can help
[18:09] <judgement> Pici: what hardware do i need for userful? i have 1 computer 2 monitors 2 keyboard and mouse... do you know what elese i might need?
[18:10] <herbi1> maybe ill be the terminator and say    Ill be back
[18:10] <mrc> anyone know why i get a network is unreachable error when I ping my router?
[18:10] <Pici> judgement: I'm sorry, I misread your question,.  I thought you were asking if anyone was useful in here.
[18:10] <herbi1> see yall later
[18:10] <Pici> judgement: I'm not familiar with userful.
[18:10] <no_name> can somebody answer me a question?
[18:10] <judgement> oh okay, thanks.
[18:10] <trakz> Folks! Please can a guru help. I performed a Kernel upgrade 2.6.22-14-generic (and other associated upgrades) and for some reason my GDM fails on startup - works ok on recovery mode. Any ideas on best way to troubleshoot. /var/log/syslog doesn't show anything that immediately jumps out.
[18:10] <Drixx> i have installed compiz but the settings would'nt take effect ...
[18:10] <krabador> velko: with savings?
[18:10] <shanubuntu> hi, I'm having some issues trying to figure out how to reinstall/downgrade to an older kernel.  Will I need to completely roll back to feisty?  If so, I can't figure out how.
[18:11] <||drake||> alright, so my audio works fine with every program except firefox... where are firefox's audio settings options?
[18:11] <shanubuntu> I'll note that I'm an ubuntu/debian noob, but I have experience with rolling release distros like gentoo and archlinux
[18:11] <velko> krabador, what do you mean by savings?
[18:11] <Drixx>  i have installed compiz but the settings would'nt take effect ...
[18:11] <sqlnoob> I'm installing alsa-firmware from synaptic but then it says I have to install fxload first but I can't find it, anyone?
[18:12] <MR^ChArMeR> whats the difference b/w ubuntu and xbuntu ?
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Do you have a supported video card?
[18:12] <Drixx> yes
[18:12] <Pici> no_name: Wubi isnt really supported by us, as its a 3rd party install method.
[18:12] <LjL> MR^ChArMeR: Xubuntu? it comes with Xfce instead of GNOME.
[18:12] <Drixx> beryl used to work just fine
[18:12] <n2diy> ! ubuntu
[18:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[18:12] <krabador> (i`m italian....) when i update something
[18:12] <MR^ChArMeR> what makes it different?
[18:12] <MR^ChArMeR> actually new to linux
[18:12] <n2diy> ! xbuntu
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:13] <Emperor_Norton> !xubuntu
[18:13] <LjL> !xubuntu
[18:13] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[18:13] <LjL> !flavors > MR^ChArMeR    (MR^ChArMeR, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:13] <velko> krabador, if your usb stick is big enough you can create second partition on it and put all your data there
[18:13] <Phusion> timotimotimo: cool nick :) I'm also a Timo
[18:13] <velko> krabador, every software you install during the live session is lost
[18:13] <dragonforce99> does Flash Projector work in Ubuntu?
[18:13] <no_name> Ok I understand but has anyone tried it? I just want to know if it would affect performance, etc?
[18:13] <krabador> velko: 2gb
[18:13] <Drixx>  Odd-rationale: what to do now ??
[18:13] <maria> Hello. I was using Kubuntu Gutsy and my built-in bluetooth adapter worked out-of-the-box... But now I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy and it seems to work, but it's not visible. What can I do? TIA
[18:13] <krabador> i would load in persistent mode
[18:13] <judgement> anyone familiar with desktop multipliers?
[18:14] <velko> krabador, it's enough for / and data partitions
[18:14] <timotimotimo> phusion: every time I tried to connect w/ timo, it was always used, hence timotimotimo
[18:14] <Phusion> ahhh
[18:14] <MR^ChArMeR> !gnome
[18:14] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[18:14] <LjL> !msgthebot > MR^ChArMeR    (MR^ChArMeR, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:14] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: How did you install compiz? Do you have Gutsy?
[18:14] <JonDeeeh> LiVES, is it good video editor?
[18:14] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: ys
[18:14] <shanubuntu> does anyone here know how to downgrade a package or reverse a distupdate?
[18:14] <shanubuntu> if that's the right word
[18:14] <trakz> Any help? - Folks! Please can a guru help. I performed a Kernel upgrade 2.6.22-14-generic (and other associated upgrades) and for some reason my GDM fails on startup - works ok on recovery mode. Any ideas on best way to troubleshoot. /var/log/syslog doesn't show anything that immediately jumps out.
[18:14] <Drixx> and i installed it thru d terminal
[18:14] <LjL> !downgrade > shanubuntu    (shanubuntu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:14] <Phusion> Odd-rationale: having problems installing compiz?
[18:14] <JDStone> i like p3nis
[18:15] <shanubuntu> hmm, that's unpleasant
[18:15] <dragonforce99> I just installed Ubuntu, and every other time I've installed ubuntu and installed the "restricted graphics drivers for my nvidia 7600 gt... its killed my ubuntu
[18:15] <Phusion> trakz: if you can get back into a console, you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:15] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Gutsy comes preinstalled with compiz-fusion
[18:15] <LjL> shanubuntu: you can *try* downgrading single packages using « sudo apt-get install packagename=version », but it's not guaranteed to succeed
[18:15] <dragonforce99> so what is the procedure for installing the drivers?>
[18:15] <michael_> trakz: i'm not a guru, but check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for gdm (well, X really) errors
[18:15] <Drixx> the compiz manager opens ... n i gave the settings ..but nothin happens after i close it
[18:15] <MR^ChArMeR> its hard to understand
[18:15] <MR^ChArMeR> so many versions with different variations
[18:15] <velko> krabador, if you put your data on the second partition you'll be able to carry it with you. but your customization settings won't be saved. the programs you install during the live session also. they are put in ram and are volatile
[18:15] <Pici> JDStone: This is a support channel, please keep things on topic and family friendly.
[18:16] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: should i try to restart the system ??
[18:16] <trakz> Phusion; sure. Any idea why it would work under recovery mode and not standard?
[18:16] <dragonforce99> can anyone help me?
[18:16] <Phusion> trakz: well, there are a lot of reasons that could happen
[18:16] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Have you tried that before?
[18:16] <jpiccol1> man, look at this speed:  speed=77056K/sec
[18:16] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: not yet ..
[18:16]  * velko looks at this speed
[18:16] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: You can try...
[18:16] <Drixx> okk
[18:17] <Phusion> trakz: do you have anything you need to save on your ubuntu install? if it's broken you can reinstall and start from scratch
[18:17] <jpiccol1> building my raid5
[18:17] <LjL> MR^ChArMeR, Linux is only the "core" (kernel) of the operating system. It doesn't handle your mouse and windows and menus. Application programs use various libraries to do that, and there are also a couple of "desktops", where all applications act together in a coherent fashion - just like the Windows or MacOS desktop. the most well known of those desktops are GNOME, KDE and Xfce
[18:17] <shanubuntu> LjL: hmm.  The real issue is that the current kernel version (2.6.22) seems to have broken my sister's laptop's suspend/hibernate function, which is pretty important for a student laptop.  Upgrading to a less stable 2.6.23 would also be conceivable, how workable is that (including a working ndiswrapper + fglrx with it)?
[18:17] <Leeworthy> Hey
[18:17] <shanubuntu> closing the lid results in nada, so the acpi must be busted in some fashion, and if I manually select 'suspend' or 'hibernate', it locks up
[18:17] <LjL> shanubuntu: if it's just the kernel, you don't need to downgrade at all. the old kernel should have remained installed. just go to the GRUB menu and select it, instead of selecting the latest kernel. to make the change persistent, edit the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:18] <shanubuntu> LjL: I'll test that again, but the last time I tried the older kernel it simply didn't work.  Perhaps I should attempt a reinstallation of it?
[18:18] <LjL> shanubuntu: however, Gutsy *always* had 2.6.22 as far as i'm aware
[18:18] <shanubuntu> hmm
[18:18] <sainzeo> dragonforce99, did you get my PM?
[18:18] <trakz> michael_ (EE) NVIDIA(1): Unable to find available Display Devices for screen 1.
[18:18] <michael_> Hi, I just moved my 3D card (Voodoo 3dfx) and monitor from one ubuntu box to another, and on the new box, when I try to run an OpenGL application I get: "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'. I brought the relevant sections of my xorg.conf with me to the new box.  Any ideas?
[18:19] <Phusion> Voodoo 3dfx! wow thats ancient
[18:19] <nickrud> michael_, you probably need to install libglide3 on the new box
[18:19] <michael_> trakz: i would suggest what someone else suggested - using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to try to fix yoru xorg.conf file.
[18:19] <Phusion> trakz: yah
[18:19] <trakz> Phusion: Arghh, I was hoping I wouldn't need to do that
[18:19] <shanubuntu> LjL: I upgraded her computer to Gutsy from Feisty to show her how cool linux + free updates are.  Bad idea ;)
[18:19] <kevin_> hello, i was wondering if anyone could recommend me an external dvd burner...
[18:19] <michael_> nickrud: you were very helpful getting the 3dfx card up in the first place a few days ago, so i'll take your advice :)
[18:19] <Phusion> run dpkg-reconfigure?
[18:20] <shanubuntu> LjL: so 2.6.20-16 is still there
[18:20] <Phusion> trakz: its really easy
[18:20] <michael_> nickrud: what is libglade3's purpose?
[18:20] <shanubuntu> in theory
[18:20] <LjL> Phusion, would you mind avoiding comments that are not relevant to the question being asked? this channel has a lot of traffic.
[18:20] <Phusion> sure thing
[18:20] <trakz> Ok for some reason I can get to prompt
[18:20] <trakz> sorry cant
[18:20] <nickrud> michael_, didn't realize that was you. It provides hooks for the tdfx driver into dri
[18:20] <trakz> get to prompt
[18:20] <LjL> shanubuntu: uhm, isn't that the Feisty kernel though? did you upgrade from Feisty?
[18:20] <shanubuntu> yes
[18:20] <shanubuntu> so both kernels are present, in theory
[18:20] <trakz> Alt F* goes to blinking cursor and nothing else
[18:20] <michael_> nickrud: great.  i'll try it.  do i need an X restart or box restart after installation?
[18:20] <Phusion> trakz: what can you get to?
[18:21] <LjL> shanubuntu: but Gutsy (not Feisty) worked *before* the very latest upgrade?
[18:21] <trakz> seems to lock up when I get the GDM failed to start due to internal error message
[18:21] <sqlnoob> ok alsa-firmware was installed, fxload was also installed... and sound doesn't work yet... what am I missing!!
[18:21] <nickrud> michael_, just a restart of X , and it libglide3 not glade by the way
[18:21] <michael_> nickrud: yes, typo, thanks for checking.
[18:21] <Highlife> hey guys I'm having a problem with python element tree and pymediaserver can anyone help me?
[18:22] <dragonforce99>  I just installed Ubuntu, and every other time I've installed ubuntu and installed the "restricted graphics drivers for my nvidia 7600 gt... its killed my ubuntu. is there something special I'm supposed to do?
[18:22] <Fud-> so are the ATI drivers screwed up or am i doing something wrong?
[18:22] <shanubuntu> LjL: no... 2.6.22 was the current kernel version present when I updated her computer, so she has 2.6.20-16 from when she had Feisty and 2.6.22-14, the current Gutsy kernel.  Her computer worked fine when I was able to select the older kernel, but for some reason it won't boot off of it now.
[18:22] <nickrud> Fud-, they're screwed up, which makes it easy to do something wrong :)
[18:22] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Your computer takes a long time to reboot. :)
[18:22] <Highlife> When I try to run pymedia server I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49185/
[18:23] <Fud-> ATI was just as bad when they were closed source
[18:23] <Highlife> Anyone know how I can fix that?
[18:23] <dragonforce99> can anyone help me?
[18:23] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: brb...
[18:24] <filthpig> Hi, how do I import bookmarks and everything from a user profile in WinXP to ubuntu -after- installation?
[18:24] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: thnx dude ...
[18:24] <Drixx> it works
[18:24] <LjL> shanubuntu: you could try reinstalling version 2.6.22-14.46, which should be the original Gutsy version i think (now it's .47, updated a couple of days ago). i really don't guarantee anything though - and if it then doesn't boot, you *may* be left with no booting kernel.
[18:24] <sainzeo> dragonforce99: did you get my PM?
[18:25] <Ali_G> hello, my system doesnt ask for any updates, is this normal?
[18:25] <shanubuntu> LjL: no worries, I have a liveCD and am quite used to chrooting ;)
[18:25] <michael_> nickrud: since you seem to be all-knowing... when i click the logout button in Gnome, it takes something like 30 to 60 seconds to get my logout modal.  gnome-display-manager is running the whole time.  any idea how i can debug it, or what the problem might be?
[18:25] <Phusion> Ali_G: when you install Gutsy, there should be some updates
[18:25] <prakriti> is there an amarok update?
[18:25] <LjL> prakriti: yes
[18:25] <shanubuntu> I can always get the latest kernel
[18:25] <prakriti> I got a new amarok on my desktop, but not my laptop
[18:25] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: u there ??
[18:25] <dragonforce99> no i didnt sainzeo
[18:25] <LjL> prakriti: probably using different mirrors. it'll come in time.
[18:25] <dragonforce99> send it again please
[18:25] <dragonforce99> wait, yes i did and i responded
[18:25] <dragonforce99> but i got no reply
[18:25] <sqlnoob> I don't understand I've done everything I've seen in troubleshooting and I can't get ubuntu to recognize the sound card, what's wrong with this
[18:26] <LjL> !enter | dragonforce99
[18:26] <ubotu> dragonforce99: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:26] <shanubuntu> LjL: sudo apt-get install linux-generic=2.6.22-16 didn't work, and I'm guessing it's because there's another level of versioning.  Where do I check for the packages in a repo to get the exact versions available?
[18:26] <sainzeo> dragonforce99: i just sent you another
[18:26] <Ali_G> Phusion: well, it didnt happen, also im stuck with firefox 2.0.0.6 since a month ago and never asks for update
[18:26] <shanubuntu> LjL: sorry for the newb questions, I guarantee I do google searches before them
[18:26] <__filip_> I have installed some older nvidia driver(96.43.01), i use envy to install them. The newer versions dont work for. Anyhiw when i try to switch compiz on it says i need to install the nvidia driver(beacause i didnt use the buildin function from ubuntu) so how can i switch compiz on?
[18:27] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: I'm back. Does it work?
[18:27] <Phusion> Ali_G: well, I'd imagine your apt repositories are screwy-- ever done a sudo apt-get update
[18:27] <zelda`> is it possible to burn .iso images to cd's with ubuntu
[18:27] <sainzeo> zelda`: yes
[18:27] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes ... thanx ...
[18:27] <wols_> zelda`: yes. gnomebaker or k3b
[18:27] <nickrud> michael_, no, I'm not sure why it would take that long.
[18:27] <dragonforce99> sain, did you get my reply?
[18:27] <sainzeo> zelda`: you can also simply right-click on an ISO and click "Write to Disc" i believe
[18:27] <michael_> nickrud: libglide3 did it, thank you, although stillnot running as smoothly as on the previous (slower and less RAM) box.
[18:28] <sainzeo> dragonforce99: no
[18:28] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Lol i didn't do anything.
[18:28] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: in the compiz options , theres a super key ..what is that ??
[18:28] <velko> Highlife, i'm not familiar with pymediaserver but it's not in the repos. i assume you have downloaded the python package and tried to run the program. maybe you should check if you have to install it before
[18:28] <LjL> shanubuntu: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic=2.6.22-14.46 (and same with modules etc, do "dpkg -l | grep linux")
[18:28] <michael_> nickrud: rather than showing 1FPS it's running smoothly with a momentary freeze every .5s or so.
[18:28] <kbrosnan> Ali_G: you need to run with write access to the firefox folder
[18:28] <dragonforce99> I just installed Ubuntu, and every other time I've installed ubuntu and installed the "restricted graphics drivers for my nvidia 7600 gt... its killed my ubuntu. is there something special I'm supposed to do?
[18:28] <Phusion> Ali_G: you also can take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the default repo's aren't commented out
[18:28] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: The "Windows Logo" key
[18:28] <nickrud> michael_, run top , see if some process is sucking up the processor
[18:28] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: still thnx dude ... lol ..
[18:28] <zelda`> lol
[18:28] <shanubuntu> LjL: ok, so dpkg -l will list all available versions of packages?
[18:28] <sqlnoob> ok then, another simple question.. how do I install the alsa-drivers? I have the forder on my desktop.. now what?
[18:28] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: ohkk...
[18:28] <shanubuntu> LjL: so that in the future I'll know that 2.6.22-16.46 is the right one, I mean
[18:28] <Highlife> velko: I have all the dependancy's and ive installed it
[18:29] <wols_> dragonforce99: it certainly didn't kill it. next time you have this problem pastebin the xorg log for us
[18:29] <giggsey> Is there a way I can force an ntfs partition to be mounted?
[18:29] <shanubuntu> or 2.6.20-16.47, etc
[18:29] <Ali_G> i'll do that, ty
[18:29] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Of course, they don;t want to call it that...
[18:29] <ompaul> sqlnoob, they are already installed - this is a package based distro you should never have to compile something (well mostly never)
[18:29] <dragonforce99> wols: i can't, it won't let me even get past the ubuntu load screen.
[18:29] <michael_> nickrud: funny, apt-check is taking 4% CPU, and i didn't explicitly run that command... and nautilus (!!) is taking 94%, and i have no nautilus windows open.
[18:29] <velko> Highlife, strange. do you run it from the directory you have unpacked the sources?
[18:29] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yup ...
[18:29] <michael_> nickrud: i can kill them, of course, but... what??
[18:29] <LjL> shanubuntu: no, it will list what you have installed. but note that in linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic, the "2.6.22-14" is NOT a version (well it is, but technically it's just part of the package name), the version is 2.6.22-14.47, and before that it was 2.6.22-14.46, and this latter version should still be installable
[18:29] <zelda`> pentium is o386 right
[18:29] <zelda`> * i386
[18:29] <sainzeo> i have a FreeAgent external harddrive (USB) and it doesn't automatically mount upon plugging it in in Ubuntu - any suggestions?
[18:29] <linrunix> check this out http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-QUAD-CORE-Q6600-8GB-DDR-2-800MHZ-500GB-HDD_W0QQitemZ350006431866QQihZ022QQcategoryZ140075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[18:29] <dragonforce99> wols: the screen goes black and I have access to nothing
[18:29] <michael_> zelda: yes
[18:29] <sainzeo> zelda`: yes
[18:29] <brobostigon> giggsey: if you put it into fstab with specific params, you can.
[18:29] <linrunix> is a quad core
[18:30] <filthpig> how do I import bookmarks and everything from a user profile in WinXP to ubuntu -after- installation?
[18:30] <LjL> !ot | linrunix
[18:30] <ubotu> linrunix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:30] <sqlnoob> ompaul: then how come there's no sound, if not drivers nor firmware, then what else am i supposed to do?
[18:30] <Tilllinux> How is/was that program called, that mounted iso/cue images and was able to convert mdf/mds/bin/... to iso/cue ?
[18:30] <giggsey> brobostigon, what would the fstab line be for an ntfs partition?
[18:30] <Tilllinux> (i think it was a kde app)
[18:30] <linrunix> thanks LjL
[18:30] <sainzeo> filthpig: i believe if you have Windows already installed, and you're making a separate partition for Ubuntu, the Ubuntu install will see that there is a user profile on your Windows partition and ask if you would like to import it...not positive on this though
[18:30] <brobostigon> giggsey: look in man fstab
[18:30] <giggsey> Thanks
[18:31] <brobostigon> i cant remember
[18:31] <Tilllinux> sainzeo: no, it won't... it'll say "there's no suitable os to import [the user data] from"
[18:31] <filthpig> sainzeo: it's that it does that. But I was wondering how to get that app running after the installation..
[18:31] <ompaul> sqlnoob, so you open a terminal, Applications Accessories Terminal
[18:32] <brobostigon> !fstab | giggsey
[18:32] <ubotu> giggsey: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[18:32] <toby> Hi
[18:32] <filthpig> I'm running Ubuntu right now, but my mom wanted me to import all of her files for her
[18:32] <toby> im a little stuck with Ubuntu
[18:32] <ompaul> sqlnoob, then you type in it alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted
[18:32] <giggsey> sexeh :D
[18:32] <sainzeo> filthpig: and the partition with Windows still exists?
[18:32] <Phusion> !ask | toby
[18:32] <ubotu> toby: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:32] <filthpig> of course, I can do it manually, but if Ubuntu could do it for me I would save some time ;)
[18:32] <filthpig> sainzeo: sur
[18:32] <filthpig> sure*
[18:32] <nickrud> michael_, nautilus does that sometimes. kill it, it comes back clean normally
[18:33] <sainzeo> filthpig: you should be able to get access to those files while in Ubuntu to mess around with
[18:33] <shanubuntu> LjL: ok, thanks.  All of the 2.6.22 versions have this problem, though, it's an upstream bug.  I've tried to reinstall 2.6.20-16.32 but it's not available :(
[18:33] <sqlnoob> ompaul: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_ open failed for default: No such driver"
[18:33] <filthpig> yes, I can, but I want ubuntu to do it for me, like it offers during installation
[18:33] <shanubuntu> I tried by running "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic=2.6.20-16.32 --reinstall"
[18:34] <toby> I got some music which is covered by the Creative Common Licence so it ok to copy but I cant work out how to get Rhytumplayer to burn it as an audio CD
[18:34] <ompaul> sqlnoob, on the top right hand corner of the machine
[18:34] <sainzeo> filthpig: hmm, i'm not sure then, sorry, maybe someone else knows of a way to do what you're looking for
[18:34] <ompaul> there is a picture of a speaker double click on it
[18:35] <toby> Thanks
[18:35] <derenrich> is there anyway to disable the screen shot button? I sometimes lean on it by accident and it crashes my computer by opening 100 save screenshot windows
[18:35] <dXr> how to configure dial up internet connection for internal modem
[18:35] <giggsey> brobostigon, I've added it in there, tried to mount it now, and it's giving me NTFS is either inconsistent - Can I _force_ it to mount?
[18:35] <toby> Where the speaker
[18:35] <cgs_bob> helo all.  I am about to install a program that needs to install gcc 3.4.  Since I already have gcc 4.1, would this downgrade me to 3.4 or will I have both 3.4 and 4.1?
[18:35] <sainzeo> derenrich: i believe you should be able to change that under "Keyboard Shortcuts" in System - Preferences
[18:35] <velko> toby, you do this with a program called serpentine
[18:35] <filthpig> sainzeo: yeah, I'll check back later. Off for some jolly pre-christmas dinner and booze now, so have a nice day/evening/night, folks!
[18:35] <derenrich> alright
[18:35] <toby> ok I try that
[18:36] <sainzeo> filthpig: you too - Merry Christmas
[18:36] <shanubuntu> cgs_bob: I'd hope they were slotted.
[18:36]  * derenrich still hitting cancel on 1000 windows
[18:36] <toby> Thank is Serpentine in Synaptic
[18:36] <sqlnoob> ompaul: "no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[18:36] <shanubuntu> derenrich: killall <process>
[18:36] <brobostigon> giggsey: what precisly is the error message, very importent??
[18:36] <cgs_bob> shanubuntu: I would hope so too...how can I tell?
[18:36] <shanubuntu> cgs_bob: dunno, I'm new to ubuntu.  I'm trying out some theories atm :D
[18:37] <giggsey> brobostigon, I know why it's saying the errors. It's because I have bad sectors on the partition, and I know I do. I want to get to the data regardless
[18:37] <ompaul> sqlnoob, click on "file -> Change Device" - if you can't then your hardware is not talking the kind of sound system that ubuntu can talk with - which is most strange
[18:37] <sqlnoob> ompaul: ubuntu doesn't even recognize I have a soundcard, that's why i downloaded the alsa-firmware cause i thought that would do the trick...
[18:37] <michael_> echo $?
[18:37] <cgs_bob> shanubuntu: I'm new to ubuntu too.  I know in gentoo I would have both
[18:37] <michael_> oops, guess i'm not at the prompt lol
[18:37] <shanubuntu> cgs_bob: yes, it's called gcc-3.4, look in synaptic and search for 'gcc'
[18:37] <brobostigon> giggsey: try fsck on it first, to try and get rid of the errors on the hdd.
[18:37] <Jadd76> Can any one give me a hint on how to make my headphone jack work?
[18:37] <sqlnoob> ompaul: file->change device ... what file?
[18:38] <shanubuntu> cgs_bob: the 'add/remove' programs interface is handy, but synaptic has gobs more packages
[18:38] <michael_> anyone know how to scroll upscreen in irssi?
[18:38] <wraund> Jadd76: check around in sound settings?
[18:38] <ompaul> sqlnoob, when you clicked on the speaker
[18:38] <brobostigon> giggsey if it still wont mount its then to damaged to read off.
[18:38] <Jadd76> Right now, plugging in a headphone disables the speakers, but no sound comes out of the headphones
[18:38] <cgs_bob> shanubuntu: thanks for the tip...I'll go take a look
[18:38] <shanubuntu> np
[18:38] <velko> michael_, does "shift + pageup" does it?
[18:38] <michael_> velko: fraid not
[18:39] <sqlnoob> ompaul: I don't see any file nor change device option
[18:39] <michael_> velko: oh, hey, it's ctrl-pageup
[18:39] <Jadd76> Thanks wraund, I've tried that
[18:39] <michael_> velko: you'd think i'd trya  few more options before asking thec hannel...
[18:39] <ompaul> sqlnoob, how old is your hardware?
[18:39] <bigdog_> Can update from a standard Ubuntu install, to a studio install via the studio installer?
[18:39] <sqlnoob> ompaul: only mute, open volume contro, preferences, help, about, remove from panel
[18:39] <toby> Serpentine is a defualt Application - Woo Hoo Thanks great Gods of Ubuntu
[18:39] <toby> bye until next time...
[18:39] <michael_> nickrud: thanks for the help with graphics card, nautilus info, etc.  bye!
[18:39] <sqlnoob> ompaul: it's a brand new laptop, Inspiron 1720
[18:40] <ompaul> sqlnoob, left double click on that speaker
[18:40] <shanubuntu> I'm going to restart and see if I can get the older kernel working...
[18:40] <velko> michael_, i didn't knew the answer also. shift+pageup is standard for moving up in a shell. it was a (unsuccessful) shot in the dark
[18:40] <wraund> Jadd76: just making sure, sometimes ninnys come in who havent checked
[18:40] <brandon__> i just installed ubuntu and i think i installed over windows vista, how do i tell? :/
[18:40] <sqlnoob> ompaul: double click only gives me that error i pasted before.. the no volume control GStreamer....
[18:41] <Jadd76> Everything is unmuted
[18:41] <ompaul> sqlnoob, have you been installing other things by hand?
[18:41] <brobostigon> giggsey, if it wont mount evenafter an fs check, then its to dameged to mount,
[18:41] <Jadd76> PCM, Front, Microphone, Capture, Digital
[18:41] <sqlnoob> ompaul: no, only using synaptic
[18:41] <lesshaste_> how can I play a flac file in xmms? I tried installing xmms2-plugin-flac
[18:41] <erUSUL> brandon__: run the partition editor and check how many and what type of partitions you have
[18:41] <lesshaste_> but it seems to have no effect on xmms
[18:41] <Jadd76> And for OSS: Volume, microphone, in-gain
[18:41]  * atm0sph tackles katibi
[18:42] <katibi> ouch
[18:42] <erUSUL> lesshaste_: afaics there is no flac xmms1 plugin use bmp or audacious
[18:42] <brandon__> what is partition editor under
[18:42] <lesshaste_> erUSUL, ok.. so what is this xmms2?
[18:42] <Jadd76> I know I can get it to work, because I installed OSS 4 once and running oss-test (I think) gave me headphone results!
[18:42] <ompaul> sqlnoob, what version did you try to install?
[18:42] <brobostigon> giggsey: if it wont mount evenafter an fs check, then its to dameged to mount
[18:42] <giggsey> brobostigon, I was using vista on it this morning, I knew it had a bad sector. Run the windows disk check, tried again, and it had bad sectors still. Resized it regardlessly, installed ubuntu. Am now trying to get my files
[18:43] <Azjo> i cant get online from ubuntu on my VPC, changing manual configuration to DHCP and etc wont help, how do i make it go online?
[18:43] <lesshaste_> erUSUL, seems I need an xmms2 client??
[18:43] <sqlnoob> ompaul: The latest on their website Ubuntu 7.10 if that's what you mean
[18:43] <wols_> Azjo: that's a virtualPC problem not a ubuntu one most likley. sudo ifonfing -a. do you have a ethX ?
[18:44] <wotamuckinfuddle> hi all, im trying to get into the yahoo.com chat, using ubuntu fiesty fawn. im getting An external application must be launched to handle ymsgr:links. requested link:  ymsgr:chat? Application: purple-url-handler "%s" when i click on launch application nothing happens. any ideas anyone?
[18:44] <sqlnoob> ompaul: for alsa, the latest too, 1.0.15
[18:44] <ompaul> sqlnoob, good, that was question one then the second part  32bit or 64bit
[18:44] <Jadd76> The headphone problem is the only thing that's stopping me from using Ubuntu all the time
[18:44] <brobostigon> giggsey: if it wont mount, however much you want to get your files, if its dameged enough, it wont mount and cant get files off it, unless you send it t pro hdd recovery.
[18:44] <Azjo> i just found out that it CAN ping the local server on in my network, but it wont ping google.com
[18:44] <sqlnoob> ompaul: uh.. i'm not sure.. where can I check that?
[18:44] <Jadd76> wotamuckinfuddle: have you tried Pidgen or GAIM?
[18:44] <Azjo> whats the problem here?
[18:44] <Phusion> Azjo: you dont have DNS or a gateway specified somewhere
[18:45] <Phusion> Azjo: are you behind a router?
[18:45] <giggsey> brobostigon, I have faith, I'll get them off :)
[18:45] <Azjo> no router
[18:45] <wotamuckinfuddle> i use pidgin jadd76
[18:45] <wols_>  Phusion he hasn't enabled proper networking in vpc most likely. and there is no router involved in his problem
[18:45] <Phusion> Azjo: how connected to the internet?
[18:45] <brobostigon> giggsey, if its damaged enough no mount, and cant get files off,
[18:45] <ompaul> sqlnoob, in a terminal (applications - accessories - terminal) type uname -r and report what you have there
[18:45] <Phusion> mmkay wols_
[18:45] <wols_> Phusion: his ubuntu is in a virtual machine Phusion
[18:45] <Phusion> ohhh
[18:45] <Jadd76> Just checking!
[18:45] <Phusion> yeash
[18:45] <Azjo> rj45 plugged to wall? :p
[18:46] <giggsey> brobostigon, Well, when I was using gparted, it was saying I have one bad sector.
[18:46] <Phusion> well there IS a router somewhere
[18:46] <talcite> hey guys, I've got a small problem... I'm trying to install a package on my headless server, but it's asking me for a CD
[18:46] <sqlnoob> ompaul: 2.6.22-14-generic.. that's what I get
[18:46] <talcite> is there any way to download the package?
[18:46] <Highlife> velko: it runs out of usr/src/
[18:46] <brobostigon> giggsey: try fsck it, to test and repair it, man fsck.
[18:46] <Phusion> talcite: in your /etc/apt/sources.list see if CDROM is in there
[18:46] <Jadd76> wotamuckinfuddle: seemed to me like you clicked on a link in a browser
[18:46] <talcite> Phusion: thanks
[18:46] <Azjo> well, i could do a ipconfig in windows, but since im not sure what the problem is..
[18:47] <giggsey> brobostigon, Okay, currently running testdisk on it, then I'll do fsck
[18:47] <Phusion> talcite: you can comment (#) it out if it is, then your apt should look at the repositories and not CDROM
[18:47] <Jadd76> talcite: Can't you disable the CD from the repositories?
[18:47] <Phusion> working on it Jadd76 :)
[18:47] <Azjo> nvm, i found some information, working on it
[18:47] <sqlnoob> ompaul: to be more specific, this is how I installed it: http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[18:47] <ompaul> sqlnoob, you got me beat there - that should work out of the box afik
[18:47] <velko> Highlife, try to launch it from the directory you installed it (python searches for modules first in the current directory). this might help
[18:47] <nickrud> talcite, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list , comment out the cdrom line near the top (you may need to uncomment [remove the # at the beginning of the line] for all lines starting with 'deb '])
[18:47] <Jadd76> Phusion: on my headphone problem?
[18:48] <Phusion> neg.
[18:48] <AngryElf> how do I get JRE 1.5?
[18:48] <Jadd76> ?
[18:48] <Phusion> no, disabling in his repo's
[18:48] <wotamuckinfuddle> when i click to open the list of chat rooms, it gives that message in a small window, there 2 options, 1 launch application and 2 cancel jadd76
[18:48] <Jadd76> Oh, OK :)
[18:49] <talcite> perfect. Thanks Phusion, nickrud, Jadd76
[18:49] <Phusion> you're welcome, it worked?
[18:49] <sqlnoob> ompaul: maybe I should get the alsamixer packet?
[18:49] <Jadd76> wotamuckinfuddle: sorry, can't help you anymore, I never use Yahoo chat
[18:49] <talcite> Phusion: yup, like a charm
[18:49] <MacTheMad> could anyone help me with a couple questions? Where can I go to find clear, concise instructions to set up a dns server? 2nd what might I be doing wrong that firestarter fails to start the firewall for eth1?
[18:49] <wotamuckinfuddle> thanx anyways jadd76
[18:50] <ompaul> sqlnoob, search synaptic first
[18:50] <sqlnoob> ompaul: I see a alsamixergui in synaptic that's not installed
[18:50] <Phusion> talcite: awesome.
[18:50] <arnath01> hi, what does "karma" indicate on the launchpad site?
[18:50] <arnath01> i seem to have an elevated karma but not sure where i got it from
[18:50] <Jadd76> Is there something similar to oss-test for alsa?
[18:50] <sqlnoob> ompaul: basically I only have alsa-base and alsa-firmware-loaders in synaptic installed
[18:50] <sqlnoob> ompaul: isn't that enough?
[18:51] <ompaul> sqlnoob, go for it - but I would not build it
[18:51] <Azjo> typing the static ip address wont help either
[18:51] <brandon__> what do i type in terminal to see all partitions
[18:51] <sqlnoob> ompaul: what other packet appart from those 2 would I need from alsa?
[18:51] <Fud-> df
[18:51] <ompaul> !audio | sqlnoob
[18:51] <ubotu> sqlnoob: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:51] <Cyber34> Attempting to enable the restricted drivers in the Restricted Driver manager kinda breaks my system, after rebooting, I'm greeted with a black screen on reboot instead of a login prompt
[18:52] <Cyber34> ATI Card
[18:52] <sqlnoob> ompaul: I already checked those pages, none of them had anything that would help me
[18:52] <Marfi> Cyber34, use nvidia. ;)
[18:52] <sainzeo> brandon__:sudo fdisk -l
[18:52] <negativo-> grrrls grrrls grrrls where are the geek ones?
[18:52] <negativo-> lol
[18:52] <zelda`> lol
[18:52] <Cyber34> Well I know NVidia support is a bit better but I'd like to get this working
[18:53] <Phusion> Cyber34: what ATI card?
[18:54] <Cyber34> X1600 Pro
[18:54] <Phusion> hrmm
[18:54] <Phusion> Cyber34: so, when you enable in restricted, on reboot its a black screen?
[18:54] <Cyber34> Well where the login screen should be, I get blackness
[18:54] <smultron> anyone had any problems with skype in terms of security?
[18:54] <Cyber34> I can then rename my xorg.conf to something else, reboot into Ubuntu, rename it back, and disable the drivers
[18:55] <timothy00> Hello
[18:55] <kye> how do i see all my partition drives in terminal?
[18:55] <Phusion> Cyber34: boy, that is a pain in the butt eh? well... I'd imagine you may need to get a diff driver from ATI
[18:55] <osman123> hi how to 80 GB usb hdd mount ubuntu 7.10??
[18:55] <Jadd76> Can anyone give any hints on where the problem might be for my headphone problem?
[18:55] <brobostigon> kye: df
[18:55] <negativo-> smultron, its true what they say about skype uses ticks interval to execute some stuff and this couldnt be detected?
[18:56] <osman123> I do connect usb port but mount error it
[18:56] <Cyber34> Which driver in particular?
[18:56] <timothy00> how do i delete a partition in the terminal ?
[18:56] <Azjo> still cannot get online, how do i make it work?
[18:56] <negativo-> timothy00, fdisk /dev/yourdisk
[18:56] <osman123> usb disk NTFS format and one partition
[18:56] <timothy00> thanks
[18:57] <Phusion> Azjo: PM me your /etc/network/interfaces
[18:57] <smultron> negativo-: so is it a pretty big security hole? say, on a windows machine?
[18:58] <osman123> before install edubuntu 7.04 is worked disk but ubuntu 7.10 is not mount?
[18:58] <verb3k> any way to obtain the older version of flash plugin?
[18:58] <negativo-> smultron, i read something about that. it use a time space betwen interrupts do some stuff, on windows and unix based systems.
[18:58] <sainzeo> verb3k: are you having problems viewing flash video in firefox?
[18:59] <Delvien> Anyone know if there is a way to auto identify in gnome-xchat
[18:59] <golyadkin> hmm, i cant see what i type in opod touch colloquy
[18:59] <wols_> Azjo: "/bin/route"
[18:59] <golyadkin> ipod
[19:00] <golyadkin> black on black
[19:00] <verb3k> sainzeo, I was having trouble until I installed the new package, I can now play flash videos in firefox but the really big problem is that the videos are EXTREMELY slow, really unbearable to watch, that's why I am looking for the older version
[19:00] <sainzeo> Delvien: can you edit the server that it first connects to and look for Identify Password or something like that
[19:00] <Delvien> sainzeo ty
[19:00] <mrc> any advice for a new ubuntu user trying to get connected to ny network?
[19:00] <Phusion> mrc: wired?
[19:01] <oliver_g1> hey, do you happen to know the launchpad bug# for the current flash breakage?
[19:02] <sainzeo> verb3k: i believe i have an older version that you could use, but there are some instructions you have to go through to get it installed
[19:02] <mrc> yep
[19:02] <mrc> that's 'my' not 'ny'
[19:02] <verb3k> sainzeo, Please ...I really appreciate it
[19:02] <katibi> does anyone know commands to enter at the grub console when ubuntu will not boot?
[19:02] <mrc> Phusion - been all over the forums all day with no luck
[19:03] <sainzeo> verb3k: how do you prefer I send it to you?
[19:03] <Phusion> mrc: ok, well maybe I can help, can you privmsg?
[19:03] <MacTheMad> can anyone help me? Firestarter fails to start on my internal connection (eth1) when I run the wizard... I'm thinking this may have something to do with the fact I swaped out dhcpd pkg for dhcp3. Any ideas?
[19:04] <mrc> yeah i think
[19:04] <verb3k> sainzeo, I am trying to accept it but there seems to be a problem... I'll give you my email ok?
[19:04] <wols_> MacTheMad: why do you need a firewall?
[19:04] <mrc> wait i have to register
[19:04] <brandon__> so i installed ubuntu and i installed over windows vista so now im trying to reinstall vista and when i pop cd in and click setup it says setup.exe cannot be opened no app suitable for automatic installation
[19:04] <sainzeo> verb3k: sounds good
[19:04] <wols_> brandon__: you need to boot with the vista CD
[19:04] <Phusion> mrc: check your private mesg I just queried you
[19:05] <MacTheMad> windows machines hooked thru this server
[19:05] <Phusion> Brandon_: you cant run windows from Linux
[19:05] <wols_> MacTheMad: apt-get install ipmasq. done
[19:05] <MacTheMad> wols: windows machines hooked thru this server
[19:05] <wols_> MacTheMad: and dnsmasq makes a better dhcp server (and does dns caching too) than dhcpd
[19:05] <wols_> MacTheMad: and you need NAT, right?
[19:05] <brandon__> so if i want to uninstall linux and reinstall vista i gotta boot from cd
[19:05] <wols_> as I said: ipamsq
[19:06] <wols_> brandon__: just like you had to boot from CD to install ubuntu
[19:06] <brandon__> lol
[19:06] <zelda`> lol
[19:06] <brandon__> kthx
[19:06] <thefoxx> hello - I have a question concerning package building with Launchpad PPA
[19:06] <Phusion> Brandon_: and dude, is there anything we can do to persuede you not to go back to Vista, for Chrissake man, its the devil
[19:06] <wols_> Phusion: think postitive. one guy less to support
[19:07] <thefoxx> when I locally build with pbuilder I have the complete package with translations (mo files)
[19:07] <thefoxx> but when I do this with PPA all is perfect except the translations
[19:07] <Phusion> :)
[19:07]  * Phusion hugs wols_ 
[19:07] <thefoxx> errors I found in log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/16871/
[19:07] <MacTheMad> wols: yes I'd like NAT... so I should uninstall dhcp3 & install dnsmasq & ipmasq? What if I want to run dns server (as "name".local)?
[19:07] <brandon__> linux seems to complicated for me :(
[19:07] <thefoxx> complete log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11024365/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.ogmrip_0.11.1-5jbbr3_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[19:07] <proprietarysucks> is there any way to get nvidia card working on ubuntu 7.10 64-bit?
[19:07] <wols_> MacTheMad: you can put it in your /etc/hosts file
[19:07] <n2diy> wols_: and one guy less to help us, eventually.
[19:08] <wols_> n2diy: don't get me wrong but the chance that a ubuntu user is actually capable of helping someone in the future is less than .5
[19:08] <judgement> does anyone run a thin client.. or know if a thin client can be acheived using ancient computerS?
[19:08] <kye> Does anyone here use "Tor"?
[19:08] <Phusion> Brandon_: there is a learning curve, but there are also no viruses, no spyware/malware and no Microsoft! and it's free.
[19:08] <wols_> "Linux for the rest of us". rest of us means non technically inclined people
[19:09] <wols_> !anyone | kye
[19:09] <ubotu> kye: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:09] <MacTheMad> wols: you mean I shouldn't use bind?
[19:09] <wols_> MacTheMad: you cerainbly shouldn't
[19:09] <MacTheMad> wols: why?
[19:09] <kye> Can someone help me use "Tor"?
[19:09] <kye> :)
[19:09] <n2diy> wols_: yep, if you haven't wrestled with RH 5.2, you don't know what suffering is. :)
[19:09] <judgement> thin client, anyone uses?
[19:09] <Phusion> 5.2?? try 3.0!!
[19:09] <wols_> n2diy: I used RH4
[19:09] <proprietarysucks> how do I enable my nvidia card in ubuntu 7.10 64-bit?
[19:09] <Phusion> ahhh cheapbytes
[19:10] <wols_> and that was the first and last one
[19:10] <Phusion> proprietarysucks: checked the Restricted Drivers Manager in System -> Administration?
[19:10] <n2diy> Phusion: wols_, I feel your pain!
[19:10] <proprietarysucks> it just says not enabled
[19:10] <Phusion> group hug!
[19:10] <proprietarysucks> I check the box and hit ok and it just says it's not enabled
[19:10] <eldkraft> prop: so check the box to enable it
[19:10] <n2diy> Phusion: wols_, Was Xwindow around then?
[19:10] <wols_> n2diy: XFree86
[19:11] <MacTheMad> wols: also don't know if this makes a difference... my ip from my provider isn't dynamic, it's static
[19:11] <Phusion> ??
[19:11] <mirdin_>  /msg nickserv link mirdin l8cky
[19:11] <wols_> mcp: no difference
[19:11] <lazz0> mirdin_, owned ?
[19:12] <mirdin_> ha!
[19:12] <lazz0> :)
[19:14] <soccer_hawk10> hey all how do i check my default charset?
[19:14] <Drixx> compiz was workin just fine untill i installed avant window navigator ...now none of them are workin ... what to do ??
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Did you try to reboot?
[19:15] <m4xxx> sd
[19:15] <Drixx> after compiz i installed avant wn ... now none are workin ...
[19:15] <Drixx> i've tried to reeboot ...
[19:15] <Drixx> reboot
[19:15] <bjorn_> anyone german in here?
[19:15] <Pici> !de | bjorn_
[19:15] <ubotu> bjorn_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:15] <andruk> \me sees channel topic
[19:16]  * andruk sees channel topic
[19:16] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: can i somehow uninstall awn ??
[19:16] <andruk> anybody got the md5sums for the new flash?
[19:16] <bjorn_> no no, i need something transelated from german to englisch nothing specific for ubuntu
[19:16] <bjorn_> dont know where to as kit
[19:16] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Yes. Let me get link...
[19:16] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: okk
[19:16] <wols_> andruk: download it and run md5sum on it
[19:16] <Pici> bjorn_: try #linguistics
[19:17] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[19:17] <mirdin> still around Phusion?
[19:18] <Phusion> yeah
[19:18] <brubelsabs> jerch: are you there?
[19:18] <jerch> hi, yo
[19:18] <Lattyware> hmmm... When I try to run Firefox or Epiphany (Hence I am presuming it is a Gecko bug) I get a 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)'
[19:18] <Lattyware> Anyone know why?
[19:19] <FreeDom-Linux> who here user the ubuntu as server?
[19:19] <Jadd76> My headphone problem...
[19:19] <jerch> only suse and debian
[19:19] <jerch> as server
[19:19] <Jadd76> I guess I'll pop in another day
[19:19] <butcherbird> FreeDom-Linux: most people here use ubuntu as a server to some degree or other but for prod boxes id use debian
[19:21] <Pici> FreeDom-Linux: Many people use Ubuntu on production servers.  Try #ubuntu-server if you're looking to talk to them.
[19:21] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: it says " *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop. "
[19:21] <ifireball> FreeDom-Linux: do you have a technical question or are you just conducting a survey?
[19:22] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Are you in the correct directory?
[19:22] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: i think so
[19:22] <vincenz> o
[19:22] <vincenz> ok
[19:22] <vincenz> I've installed gutsy on a separate hd
[19:22] <vincenz> using debootstrap
[19:22] <vincenz> and then aptitude et al
[19:22] <Pici> !enter | vincenz
[19:22] <ubotu> vincenz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:22] <vincenz> apparently I need to do some final grub things after swapping.  Any suggestions?
[19:23] <vincenz> Pici: apologies
[19:23] <Phusion> mirdin: ok I'm ready, talk in priv
[19:23] <soul9> hi
[19:23] <soul9> i just made an x264 encoded video, and some people on gutsy are complaining they can't play the file
[19:23] <soul9> does anyone know what the issue can be?
[19:24] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Did you try running the sudo rm commands found near the bottom of the post?
[19:24] <lonnie> how do i capture the date string in seconds from 1970-01-01?
[19:24] <ifireball> lonnie: date -U is far as I remember
[19:24] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: i tried that .. but not the synaptic package manager ... jus gimme a min ...
[19:25] <mak1084> hey i just lost my all aplication i was just checking all the things in settings and i clicked the some thing......in xubutnu and i lost my application. now when i press apllication i get only settings, help, about xubuntu and quite  please tell me what to do now
[19:25] <lonnie> date -U doesn't work, but thx
[19:26] <soul9> lonnie, are you looking for date +%s
[19:26] <ifireball> lonnie: yeah, my bad its "date +%s"
[19:26] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: the package manager removed it successfully but its still there in the menu ... n compiz ain't workin ...
[19:26] <Odd-rationale> mak1084: Try going to ~/.config/xfce4/desktop see if there is a menu file. delete that and try logging back in.
[19:27] <Pici> lonnie: date +%s
[19:27] <Pici> oops, too late
[19:27] <soul9> so
[19:27] <soul9> ???
[19:27] <osmosis> where can I download from ?
[19:27] <Pici> osmosis: Download what from?
[19:27] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: That is strange. I'm really lost what to do now. Sorry.
[19:28] <soul9> does anyone know?
[19:28] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: shud i try to re-install compiz ??
[19:28] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: What compiz stuff did you install via the terminal?
[19:29] <osmosis> Pici: get ubuntu ?
[19:29] <Neyuth> hi all!
[19:29] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: i went to te compiz fusion site n followed the instructions ..
[19:30] <mak1084>  Odd-rationale: how should i use terminal
[19:30] <soul9> !x264
[19:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x264 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:30] <Odd-rationale> mak1084: Thunar should be find. Just make sure to show hidden files.
[19:30] <soul9> !codecs
[19:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:31] <Neyuth> someone know which is the name of these console?
[19:31] <Neyuth> http://cerros.ndk.com.mx/upload/desktop11.jpg
[19:31] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: what to do now ??
[19:31] <sqlnoob> can anyone help me? i'm running ./snddevices in the alsa-driver directory and it says it cannot access /dev/snd/*
[19:31] <sqlnoob> what am i supposed to do to fix this sound issue!
[19:31] <Pici> !download | osmosis
[19:31] <ubotu> osmosis: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[19:31] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Did you install from source?
[19:31] <Tezasaurus> Hey guys. The volume control keys on my laptop (Function+F5/F6) are adjusting the Line In volume- how do I change it to adjust the master volume of the speakers?
[19:32] <sqlnoob> all this to fix alsamixer
[19:32] <lesshaste_> when I try to play something in audacious I get ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[19:32] <lesshaste_> how do I tell what is using the sound ?
[19:33] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: i did from the following site  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:33] <sqlnoob> ok i give up.. i've been trying to make things work under ubuntu and nothing works, i'll go back to windows
[19:33] <Newuserr> eh guys i cannot watch moviestreams, well not fluent moviestreams what do i need to change that, i have downloaded all the codecs, flashplayer an so on
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: That is for feisty. In gutsy, all should have done is "sudo apt-get install ccsm"
[19:34] <mak1084> Odd-rationale: let me come back
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> mak1084: sure
[19:34] <ifireball> Tezasaurus: Syste->Preferences->Sound->Devices->Adjust default mixer tracks
[19:34] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: ohh ... wat to du now ??
[19:34] <Newuserr> i am using ubuntu 7.10 everything was working well with ubuntu 7.06 really strange
[19:34] <andruk> sqlnoob: what isnt working for ya?
[19:35] <sqlnoob> andruk: sound.
[19:35] <andruk> sqlnoob: out of my league, sorry
[19:35] <sholden> has anyone experienced issues with sound on a macbook pro?  My sound works through the headphones, but not through the internal speakers.
[19:35] <Tezasaurus> ifireball: That did it. Thanks so much :)
[19:35] <sqlnoob> andruk: no problem, nobody's been able to help me so I guess there's no solution.
[19:35] <Newuserr> eh guys i cannot watch moviestreams, well not fluent moviestreams what do i need to do to  change that, i have downloaded all the codecs, flashplayer an so on
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try this. Open synaptic. Then on the left column. select origins. find the repository that you added from the wiki
[19:35] <andruk> sqlnoob: have you tried the forums?
[19:35] <Newuserr> i am using ubuntu 7.10 everything was working well with ubuntu 7.06 really strange
[19:36] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: then ??
[19:36] <andruk> Newuserr: do you mean movie streams as in Youtube stuff?
[19:36] <Newuserr> andruk : yes i dont get fluent streams there :(
[19:37] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: In the right. do you have any packages installed from those repos you added?
[19:37] <andruk> Newuserr: what do you mean by "fluent"?
[19:37] <Newuserr> andruk: well i just see one picture after the other
[19:37] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:37] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Completely remove them.
[19:37] <sqlnoob> andruk: I've tried everything in this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:38] <Newuserr> andruk: not really like a movie
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Wait.
[19:38] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:38]  * You_ have been disconnected from the server. Please reconnect.
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: How many are there and what are their names.
[19:38]  * You_ have been disconnected from the server. Please reconnect.
[19:38] <genii> I asked this also in #ubuntu-server but no one responding there yet, someone here may know: If I have 2 identical drives with identical uuid and contents if I use the uuid for grub and fstab will it write to both drives?
[19:38] <mak1084> Odd-rationale: hey thanks budy my problem is solved.
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> mak1084: np
[19:38] <andruk> sqlnoob: try posting your problem on ubuntuforums.org
[19:39] <sholden> Hi everyone.  Does anyone know if there are known issues with the using the internal speakers on a macbook pro with linux?  I can hear sound fine through headphones, but when the headphones are removed the speakers will not work
[19:39] <andruk> Newuserr: do you have gnash installed?
[19:39] <Newuserr> andruk: yes but it doesnt really seem to work well dont know why
[19:39] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: avant-window-navigator-bzr
[19:39] <sqlnoob> andruk: meh, everytime i follow one thing there's something else wrong, and so on.. I'll go back to Windows, everything works there. Thanks for your help anyways
[19:39] <andruk> Newuserr: i would uninstall it and use flashplugin-nonfree instead
[19:39] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: libawn-bzr
[19:40] <Drixx> Odd-rationalepython-libawn
[19:40] <Newuserr> andruk: ok thnx i try that
[19:40] <jp30> how can I mount my flashdisk?
[19:40] <andruk> sqlnoob: well, i hope it works out for you.  good luck!
[19:40] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: OK Stop. Is there a lot?
[19:41] <ABC> i'm having a little problem with comp fusion, how do i make it get custom setup, i did it be for(on accadent) and now i reinstalled it and can't figure out that i did
[19:41] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: there are two more sites of the same but they ave libcompizconfig-backend-gconfig... n so on
[19:41] <Newuserr> andruk: i ot everything working well on ubuntu 7.06 bit strange
[19:41] <sainzeo> ABC: you have to install the advanced compiz settings program from Add/Remove
[19:42] <Newuserr> andruk: i got everything working well on ubuntu 7.06 bit strange
[19:42] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Does any of the repos in the left column have the name feisty in it?
[19:42] <ABC> thank you let me give it a whurl
[19:42] <mirdin> back
[19:42] <sainzeo> ABC: no problem
[19:43] <newbieee> how should i disable compiz
[19:43] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: no
[19:43] <dragonforce99> i just installed the nvidia_glx_new driver thing from restricted drivers, and now whenever I try to boot it sends me to a black screen. from this black screen i can get to a terminal and login, but 'startx' doesnt work for getting the GUI to start. i'm using a live CD right now, and I've got the partition mounted. what can I do to fix this so i get my GUI back?
[19:43] <sainzeo> newbieee: System - Preferences - Appearance - on the Effects tab, click "None"
[19:43] <andruk> Newuserr: tis strange indeed
[19:43] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: How about launchpad?
[19:43] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: no
[19:44] <dragonforce99> anyone?
[19:44] <chaosrl> does anyone know if it is possible to run an already installed copy of Vista in a virtual machine in 7.10 gutsy?
[19:44] <Newuserr> andruk: i did what u told me but now when i am on youtube.com they tell me to install the flashplayer but i have installed the flashplugin-nonfree???
[19:44] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all, did anybody know, how can i select the working one from two active sound card?
[19:44] <cableroy_> hi, i'm looking for a linux livecd with bbr kernel patch, anyone know of one? (for evms volume)
[19:44] <cGc2> chaosrl, you need to get the p2v assistant
[19:45] <dragonforce99> can someone help me? i've been having this issue for 2 days now :/
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: OK let me see... Did you add the repos from the link you were following to install compiz?
[19:45] <dragonforce99> i just installed the nvidia_glx_new driver thing from restricted drivers, and now whenever I try to boot it sends me to a black screen. from this black screen i can get to a terminal and login, but 'startx' doesnt work for getting the GUI to start. i'm using a live CD right now, and I've got the partition mounted. what can I do to fix this so i get my GUI back?
[19:45] <chaosrl> cGc2, is that free in the repos?
[19:45] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: awn is from download.tuxfamily.org
[19:45] <cGc2> chaosrl, vmware has it as a download on their site
[19:45] <andruk> Newuserr: yeah, as it says in the channel topic, the flashplugin-nonfree is currently broken (by Adobe), so it will be a little while before somebody updates it
[19:45] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes i did ..
[19:45] <cGc2> chaosrl, you need to run it on the vista install and it will make a virtual image for you
[19:45] <andruk> Newuserr: the issue should be fixed "soon"
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Is that repo showing up in the origins?
[19:46] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:46] <mirdin> hey Phusion, you still here?
[19:46] <butcherbird> Newuserr: just grab it from adobe site and drop in firefox/plugins folder
[19:46] <chaosrl> cGc2, not VMware Player, i assume?
[19:46] <dragonforce99> anyone?
[19:46] <Newuserr> butcherbird: ok thnx
[19:46] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Alright, try completely removing all packages from those repo. Those are for feisty.
[19:46] <newbieee> sainzeo:System - Preferences - Appearance i'm using xubuntu there is no Preference in System
[19:46] <andruk> Newuserr: however, if you need Flash now, theres always the tutorial here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[19:46] <mrbrdo> hey, i configured mod_mono like it says in the help, it works, i'm just having one problem. if there is an error in a .aspx file, i get an error page but it doesn't contain any information about the error (debugging), but only that i must add something like customerrors=off to web.config. i tried creating this file and pasting that code in, but it didn't change anything.. note i only have .aspx files, not asp applications, but that page says i should p
[19:47] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: its download.tuxfamily.org
[19:47] <KinPumpkinKing> is there a way to run in 32bit?
[19:47] <KinPumpkinKing> (graphics)
[19:47] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: but some have compiz too ... even those ones ??
[19:47] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: the same repo has compiz
[19:47] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Did you add the repos from here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:47] <sainzeo> newbieee: i'm sorry, thought you were using ubuntu
[19:47] <Drixx> yes
[19:47] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:48] <Newuserr> andruk: thnx
[19:48] <jp30> ls
[19:48] <KinPumpkinKing> is there a way to run under 32bit graphics?...
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Remove the packages from that repo. tuxfamily is OK
[19:48] <jp30> ls
[19:48] <mrbrdo> hey, i configured mod_mono like it says in the help, it works, i'm just having one problem. if there is an error in a .aspx file, i get an error page but it doesn't contain any information about the error (debugging), but only that i must add something like customerrors=off to web.config. i tried creating this file and pasting that code in, but it didn't change anything.. note i only have .aspx files, not asp applications, but that page says i should p
[19:48] <jp30> how can I make my ubuntu recognize my flashdisk?
[19:49] <sainzeo> newbieee: i'm not sure where to go if you're using xubuntu :(
[19:49] <dragonforce99> i just installed the nvidia_glx_new driver thing from restricted drivers, and now whenever I try to boot it sends me to a black screen. from this black screen i can get to a terminal and login, but 'startx' doesnt work for getting the GUI to start. i'm using a live CD right now, and I've got the partition mounted. what can I do to fix this so i get my GUI back?
[19:49] <mrbrdo> dragonforce99 read the error log and read the forums?
[19:49] <newbieee> sainzeo: its ok
[19:49] <dragonforce99> i dont know where to find the error log
[19:49] <dragonforce99> or where to look in the forums
[19:49] <mrbrdo> dragonforce99 it's usually in /var/log
[19:50] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: awn was from http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=DistributionGuides
[19:50] <mrbrdo> you're looking for Xorg logs, or X11 or whatever
[19:50] <dragonforce99> and for the forums?
[19:50] <sholden> http://pastie.caboo.se/131418 -> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
[19:50] <sholden> anyone see something wrong?
[19:50] <mrbrdo> dragonforce99 ubuntuforums.com
[19:50] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: n packages from which repo shud i remove ?
[19:50] <jp30> how can I make my ubuntu recognize my flashdisk?
[19:50] <dragonforce99> right, im there. do I post this there? i've been having this issue for 2 days and last time I posted in the Ubuntu forums it was never responded to
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: The one from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:50] <mirdin> hey Phusion
[19:50] <mrbrdo> dragonforce99 you check the error log and copypaste the error into search.. try that..
[19:51] <dragonforce99> okay thank you
[19:51] <mrbrdo> np
[19:51] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: this repo is not there on the left
[19:51] <dragonforce99> mrbrdo: what will it be named?
[19:51] <butcherbird> jp30: unplug/replug and do dmesg | tail  do you see an sda or sdb1 or something?
[19:51] <andruk> Newuserr: here is another helpful link, look at post #30: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632322&page=3
[19:51] <GHOST> YO!
[19:51] <mirdin> hey Phusion
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Strange. Let's try something else then.
[19:52] <Newuserr> ok
[19:52] <mirdin> can someone help me with the command for invite to private message?
[19:52] <GHOST> HEY IM FRENCH LOL
[19:52] <mirdin> can't seem to... ug figure it out
[19:52] <Pici> !fr | GHOST
[19:52] <ubotu> GHOST: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:52] <dragonforce99> mrbrdo: nothing appears when i search
[19:52] <GHOST> lol ok :)
[19:52] <zelda`> lol
[19:52] <GHOST> :)
[19:52] <KinPumpkinKing> I heard there is a way to isntal GLSL and run in 32bit graphics mode... can anyone help me with that?
[19:52] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: on the left i have archive.canonical.com ..... ke.archive.ubuntu.com ....security.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <jp30> dmesg | tail  = no sda or sdb
[19:53] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: In synaptic do a search for "compiz"
[19:53] <jp30> I am using Vmware
[19:53] <KinPumpkinKing> **install
[19:53] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: now ??
[19:54] <GHOST> hey i cant remove metacity from my xubuntu
[19:54] <butcherbird> jp30: oh you need to enable usb in vmware and make sure windows doesnt have it mounted i think
[19:54] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: OK Check whether you have the following packages installed. If you do mark them for reinstall. if not, install them:
[19:55] <jp30> o.k.
[19:55] <Veterini> Lylat
[19:55] <Hamlet> hi
[19:55] <butcherbird> jp30: assuming youre on xp
[19:55] <GHOST> some french fries here :)?
[19:55] <ulises> hi
[19:55] <jp30> no, VISTA
[19:55] <GHOST> :)
[19:56] <Newuserr> andruk: THANKS it works now :))
[19:56] <vishal> HI, after i hibernate or suspend, i get a grey screen, anyone know why this happens?
[19:56] <jp30> how can I see my Windows C: drive in UBUNTU ( in Vmware)
[19:56] <andruk> Newuserr: np
[19:56] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: u there ??
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: hold on..
[19:57] <mirdin> hey anyone familiar with a device or resource busy messag from ifup eth0?
[19:57] <mirdin> can't get my network card working on a new Ubuntu install
[19:57] <suresh> hi
[19:57] <vishal> HI, after i hibernate or suspend, i get a grey screen, anyone know why this happens?
[19:58] <wy> I can't even hibernate or suspend!
[19:58] <mirdin> anyone with experience getting connected after ubuntu install?
[19:58] <rohan> suspend/hibernate is very delicate in linux
[19:58] <rohan> wy: what error do you get while suspending?
[19:59] <vishal> it works, but my screen goes grey when i bring it back up
[19:59] <rohan> vishal, wy : try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowto
[19:59] <KinPumpkinKing> jp30, it's the sda1 thingy on your desktop
[19:59] <prakriti> is there anyway to force aptitude update to hit another mirror?
[19:59] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Check these packages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49199/
[19:59] <adelie> #bash is very quiet. Anyone know what do you put at the end of a script for it to start over again, as opposed to putting the whole thing in a loop, or spawning a second instance?
[19:59] <ifireball> mirdin: the mesage you;re seeing can be the result of one of 2 things; either the interface is already up, or you're not running the command with sudo
[20:00] <vishal> i have to blindly click the off button at the top and then click the switch user, thats when it starts working
[20:00] <prakriti> adelie : what is wrong with a loop?
[20:00] <rohan> vishal: which video card do you have ?
[20:00] <prakriti> loops are good
[20:00] <mirdin> it's run with sudo so it must be #1
[20:00] <thehcdreamer> Hello, i have created an user from the terminal but now i would like to permit it to use the sudo command, how can i do that?
[20:00] <aram> hi
[20:00] <mirdin> if the interface is up, why can't I ping my router?
[20:00] <rohan> thehcdreamer: add that user to the admin group
[20:00] <jp30> I am using Vmware and somehow, nothing shows up on my desktop.
[20:00] <aram> can any one please help me what is the diffrent between ex2 and ex3 ?
[20:00] <wy> rohall: When I tried to suspend, my suspend LED was blinking and monitor off, but the fan is still turning...
[20:00] <vishal> rohan: its a intergrated chip, (intel)
[20:00] <mirdin> i get: Network is unreachable
[20:00] <thehcdreamer> rohan: thanks
[20:00] <GHOST> any french here :) ?
[20:00] <aram> can any one please help me what is the diffrent between ex2 and ex3
[20:01] <tritium> !fr | GHOST
[20:01] <ifireball> mirdin: up without the right ip...
[20:01] <ubotu> GHOST: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:01] <lousygarua> can anyone help me install webcam on gutsy? that linux-uvc thing that is
[20:01] <GHOST> ok sry!
[20:01] <tritium> aram: please don't repeat, and please clarify what you're referring to
[20:01] <rohan> aram: ext3 == ext2 + journalling
[20:02] <aram> tritium: what shall ll i do then i am just repeating my quistion if anyone can help me
[20:02] <tritium> !repeat | aram
[20:02] <ubotu> aram: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:02] <adelie> prakriti: Considering the context, it makes a bit more sense. also, it is a HUGE script, and saying "do that again" would be more practical than having to make marks at the beginning and end of script. I also heard that it was a command that existed.
[20:02] <rohan> wy, vishal : also look at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend
[20:02] <vishal> rohan: the link doesnt help, oh and btw it only happens on a hibernate not a suspend
[20:02] <mirdin> ifireball: I set up a static IP which pings ok
[20:02] <ifireball> aram: ext3 is a logginf filesystem wheil ext2 is not
[20:02] <rohan> vishal: oops sorry, no idea then
[20:02] <tritium> aram: go with ext3.  ext2 is essentially obsoleted now
[20:02] <mirdin> and same network setup works on my other machine
[20:02] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: for emerald it says     emerald:
[20:02] <Drixx>  Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed
[20:02] <Drixx>  Depends: libwnck18 (>=2.15.90) but it is not installable
[20:03] <rohan> ext2 is good for small fs - like /boot
[20:03] <ifireball> mirdin: so static IP works, just DHCP doesn't?
[20:03] <aram> rohan: what is jou
[20:03] <tritium> yes, but for someone new, I recommend all ext3 for now
[20:03] <adelie> also, "do again" can be the product of an argument, where as a conditional loop wouild be very sloppy
[20:03] <vishal> rohan: its weried because as soon as i switch user and log back on it works
[20:03] <aram> ifireball: what is logginf file system
[20:03] <verb3k> aram, don't use ext2, it's old and lacks many things, if you don't know the difference then go with ext3
[20:03] <ifireball> aram: I meant logging*
[20:03] <prakriti> adelie : I don't think there is a goto in bash, it sounds like you want while
[20:03] <tritium> aram: it's more robust to power failures, etc.
[20:03] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try reloading your package lists.
[20:04] <rohan> aram: journal keeps track of filesystem changes and makes operations atomic - that way it's better suited to data recovery after crashes etc
[20:04] <Dar234532> anyone here run a colo?
[20:04] <mirdin> static IP doesn't see the network either
[20:04] <aram> thanks a lot
[20:04] <tritium> Dar234532: you mean a LoCo?
[20:04] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: and there are some extra marked in my list
[20:04] <cGc2> jp30, you figure it out?
[20:04] <mirdin> but DHCP doesn't even get an IP
[20:04] <aram> the other thing is i spend 2 hour and can not find answer for problem i have
[20:04] <ifireball> aram: "logging" is a technique for preserving data integrity, please refer to wikipedia for further info
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: That is fine. Let it install any needed dependancies.
[20:05] <KinPumpkinKing> I heard there is a way to install GLSL and run in 32bit graphics mode... can anyone help me with that?
[20:05] <Lattyware> hmmm... When I try to run Firefox or Epiphany (Hence I am presuming it is a Gecko bug) I get a 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)'
[20:05] <Lattyware> Anyone know why?
[20:05] <mirdin> ifireball: could this be a driver thing?
[20:05] <adelie> prekriti: certaintly not a goto. I know it is something i read / heard about before. It keeps a single instance, and with each iteration, it basically gets a new process ID, and "resets" uptime.
[20:05] <ifireball> mirdin: please say my name when you talk to me, can you see the card when you type "ifconfig" ?
[20:05] <tritium> Lattyware: if it were a gecko bug, I think a lot more of us would also be experiencing that
[20:06] <mirdin> yeah ok
[20:06] <aram> when i try to install ubuntu on my system
[20:06] <mirdin> ifireball: if I type ipconfig i get lo
[20:06] <Lattyware> tritium: Well, it seems odd that two things crash, and they have Gecko in common. They all the software that that happens to.
[20:06] <aram> it give me error which it says /bin/sh:can not access tty:job central turned off
[20:06] <mirdin> ifireball: if I type ipconfig eth0 I see the card, with static it has an IP, with DHCP it doesn't
[20:06] <aram> can any one help me with that?
[20:06] <sbacheler> where can I configure the password for ubuntu remote access?
[20:06] <rohan> wc
[20:07] <aram> because i have tried so many times to find answer but i couldent
[20:07] <tritium> Lattyware: yes, it is odd, but also apparently unique to your system.  Likely it is something on your end.
[20:07] <aram> does any one know what is that mean it give me error which it says /bin/sh:can not access tty:job central turned off
[20:07] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: the same problem with emerald ..... shud i reinstall the rest ??
[20:07] <ifireball> mirdin: config it to static IP, the do "sudo /etc/inid.d/networking resatrt" then see what you get in ifconfig
[20:08] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try not installing emerald for now.
[20:08] <evan__> my firefox keeps using all of either one or both of my processor cores via a process called gtk-gnash.  this is a rather serious problem, since im on a laptop
[20:08] <suresh_> hi
[20:08] <ifireball> aram: that's not the error, thats just the massage the busybox you're dropped into gives you, look for the real error in the lines above it
[20:08] <GHOST> i
[20:09] <evan__>  anyone have an idea what the problem might be?
[20:09] <genii> heh massage
[20:09] <skarface> evan__: flash uses resources?
[20:09] <Montego> Used update manager 2 days ago. Now having problems with programs not opening and ope very slowly. Is there an easy way to roll back the updates?
[20:09] <Lattyware> tritium: Great.
[20:09] <aram> ifireball: when i try to install that is the thing it give me
[20:09] <mirdin> ifireball: I get * reconfigureing network interfaces... SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy 3 times then Failed to bring up eth0
[20:09] <tritium> Lattyware: what are you running?
[20:09] <twobits2> I have an extremely newbish question: I cannot find my xorg.conf file, where should it be... ?
[20:09] <Lattyware> Ubuntu Gutsy.
[20:09] <tritium> twobits2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:09] <GHOST>  cant i remove metacity from xubuntu?
[20:09] <adelie> or... is there a PID that means self, like localhost? For example `kill -1 foo' would tell a script to restart itself?
[20:10] <ifireball> mirdin: did you run that with sudo?
[20:10] <flibberdy> Hi all, I installed xubuntu on an Hp Compaq NC4010 laptop yesterday, everything works except the xfce battery monitor plugin
[20:10] <mirdin> ifireball: then with ifconfig I get the static IP I assigned
[20:10] <evan__> skarface: no simple flash advertisement i've had in the past used 100% of a 2.33 Ghz C2D
[20:10] <flibberdy> it reads for battery information from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT01, whereas my battery information appears in /proc/acpi/battery/C13A. anyone know how to change where it gets info from
[20:10] <bucky1> i just switched to an nvidia video card because of the better linux support than ATI.  And now i have nothing but problems.  My machine wont boot unless I take out "splash" from grub, and it also dies when I try to boot into my xen kernel.. .what is wrong??
[20:10] <skarface> evan__: have you tried using the binary flash rather than gnash?
[20:10] <GHOST> me its about metacity...
[20:10] <mirdin> ifireball: yeah
[20:10] <mirdin> ifireball: actually with ifconfig I get 'lo'
[20:10] <mirdin> but not 'eth0'
[20:10] <evan__> skarface: no, thanks, I will look into that. ill also disable flash ads via adblocker
[20:11] <lonejack> hi guys, problem: what packages have I to install for firefox or in general application made in java? I tried to install java6 from synaptic but not all packages reach the complete download/installation. Any advices?
[20:11] <evan__> skarface: whats the package called?
[20:11] <ifireball> mirdin: can you paste the output of "ifconfig eth0" plz?
[20:11] <adelie> or... is there an environment variable that stores ones own process ID?
[20:11] <mirdin> I can't paste but I can type
[20:11] <skarface> evan__: flashplugin-nonfree I believe
[20:11] <GHOST> how can i remove metacity from xubuntu?
[20:11] <poningru_> lonejack, just go install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:11] <aram>  ifireball: the full massage is busy box v.1.13 c debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu)built in shell (ash)and then it show /bin/sh:can not access tty:job central turned off and in below it says (initramfs): and it does not go any furthure even on live cd
[20:11] <evan__> skarface: I have that and gnash installed, should I remove gnash?
[20:11] <tritium> skarface: see the /topic regarding flashplugin
[20:12] <mirdin> ifireball: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr (MAC)
[20:12] <skarface> tritium: neat.
[20:12] <ifireball> aram: above that
[20:12] <skarface> evan__: see the topic ;)
[20:12] <mirdin> ifireball: i can't paste -sorry, i can type
[20:12]  * genii ponders sudo apt-get remove metacity
[20:12] <evan__> !flashplugin
[20:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:12] <aram> ifireball: there is nothing above it
[20:12] <adelie> GHOST: apt-get remove metacity?
[20:12] <mirdin> ifireball: inet addr: 192.168.1.160
[20:12] <ifireball> !paste | mirdin
[20:12] <ubotu> mirdin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:12] <lonejack> poningru_: from terminal "sudo install ubuntu-restricted-extras"?
[20:12] <poningru_> http://uploader.ws/upload/200701/emrocamariolanddesktop3oe4sg.jpg
[20:12] <poningru_> err
[20:12] <evan__> skarface: what topic? I tried !flashplugin is that not it?
[20:13] <poningru_> lonejack, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:13] <GHOST> ok i will try :) ty
[20:13] <poningru_> lonejack, or just find it in synaptic
[20:13] <tritium> evan__: no, it's !flash
[20:13] <mirdin> ifireball: i can't paste - no internet to the machine I'm workin on another
[20:13] <Montego> Is there an easy way to roll back the updates? Used update manager 2 days ago. Now having problems with programs not opening and opening very slowly.
[20:13] <evan__> !flash
[20:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:13] <tritium> evan__: note that you can query ubotu
[20:13] <skarface> evan__: /topic ... but you already have it installed so I guess removing gnash may be all you need to do
[20:13] <kmac> !flash
[20:13] <GHOST> cauz i also have gnome with xubuntu...
[20:13] <Dar234532> where can I talk aobut windows?
[20:13] <ifireball> mirdin: ok, what does the 4th line say?
[20:13] <evan__> !Restricted
[20:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:13] <aram> ifireball: this is the error the system give me when i try to boot linux because of i want to install on my actual systenm because know it is just installed on my pc
[20:13] <eldkraft> lonejack: I don't know if they have fixed it yet but when I tried to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree last week it came up with a mismatch. The workaround is to enable the pre-release repos. Then you'll get an updated version that will work
[20:13] <adelie> Dar234532: #windows
[20:13] <mirdin> ifireball: Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[20:14] <aram> ifireball: on my virtual mashine
[20:14] <evan__> !Gnash
[20:14] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[20:14] <EADG> aram: Had that problem on a friends HP DV9K, found a fix for it on www.ubuntuforums.org. Search for "cannot access tty"
[20:14] <mirdin> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[20:14] <tritium> evan__: note that you can query ubotu in private so as not to spam the channel
[20:14] <mirdin> ifireball: RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[20:14] <eldkraft> lonejack: it's a known bug
[20:14] <jp30> I have added USB in vmware, but I still cannot see anything listed in dmsg
[20:15] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: u there ??
[20:15] <ifireball> mirdin: above the line that begins with "RX"
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Yes
[20:15] <aram> eadg: it nothing i can find i have tried last night for 2 hour
[20:15] <mirdin> ifireball: or do you want BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[20:15] <evan__> tritium: thanks, sorry.
[20:15] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: emerald is showing the same problem ...what to du ??
[20:15] <ifireball> mirdin: yes, so it just begins with "BROADCAST" no "UP" there?
[20:15] <EADG> aram: gimme a few, I'll see if I can track it down for you...
[20:15] <Montego> Anyone know how to rollback updates?
[20:16] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try not installing emerald at this time.
[20:16] <skullhead> dos any one else have this problem were if you watch a video on youtube you sound is off from the video? and no its not internet lagg
[20:16] <mirdin> ifireball: no "UP"
[20:16] <Orfintain> hi
[20:16] <Orfintain> basic Q here
[20:16] <aram> eadG:thank a lot
[20:16] <Orfintain> envy
[20:16] <ifireball> mirdin: ok, lets try this "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[20:16] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: i've reinstalled the rest ...
[20:16] <Orfintain> is envy part of ubbuto
[20:16] <wols_> !envy
[20:16] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:17] <tritium> Orfintain: *no*
[20:17] <mirdin> ifireball: Device or resource busy
[20:17] <wols_> Orfintain: no, and when you use it you better look elswhere for support
[20:17] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: can't i just remove awn .. ?? will that help ?
[20:17] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try restarting X (ctrl+alt+bkSp) then see if compiz works.
[20:17] <ifireball> mirdin: "ps -ef | grep ifconfig" tell me if it gives you more the one line
[20:17] <Whitor> Hxcopy \\server1\data\installs\base c:\ /E /Y /C /I /R /Dow do I change desktop resolution in KDE ?
[20:17] <Whitor> How do I change desktop resolution in KDE ?
[20:18] <Whitor> Sorry for the inadvertant paste in there
[20:18] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Well/
[20:18] <Odd-rationale> ?
[20:18] <Orfintain> thanks wols
[20:18] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: no luck ...
[20:19] <HPM_> Where does Ubuntu store font (ttf) files?
[20:19] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: how about removing awn n compiz n then reinstalling compiz ??
[20:19] <skullhead> do's anyone know what to do if your sound starts before or after i start a youtube video????
[20:19] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Is AWN running right now?
[20:19] <Orfintain> @wols that link is for <7.1..
[20:19] <ifireball> HPM_: lots of places, you've a user friendly front-end for that in the "virtual directory" "fonts:"
[20:19] <Drixx> Odd-rationale : none of them are running ...
[20:20] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: none of them open ...
[20:20] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: OK if AWN is not running, then it should not be effecting compiz.
[20:20] <mirdin> ifireball: one line only
[20:20] <HPM_> ifireball: I'm setting up a script that requires the path to a few font files...
[20:20] <lonejack> poningru_,eldkraft: I'm trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras. Thank you
[20:20] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: but i've clicked on it several times ...
[20:21] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: n compiz was workin just fine before i installed awn ...
[20:21] <nickrud> HPM_, /usr/share/fonts/truetype , your personal fonts would go into ~/.fonts , create it if it doesn't exist
[20:21] <aram> eadG :any answres please?
[20:21] <Montego> skullhead Im not a ubuntu tech by any means. But if your using Firefox there are some players it has trouble with. Try another browser has worked for me. Like Opera or Konqueror.
[20:22] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Ok Let's try that and see what happens.
[20:22] <_Johny> Hello, Is there any way to play ape in Ubuntu, not only by mplayer?
[20:22] <arturo> scusate in italiano?
[20:22] <nickrud> !it | arturo
[20:22] <ubotu> arturo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:22] <ifireball> HPM_: you may want to look into interfacing with fontconfig, the font management library, it won't be wise to hard-code the paths into the script
[20:22] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: so shud i delete everything from the .downloadtuxfamily repo .. ?
[20:22] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Yes, completely remove,
[20:23] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: kk
[20:23] <skullhead> ok thx montego
[20:23] <Phusion> hahaha oh man, I had all this trouble connecting to wifi and all I had to do was right click on the stupid icon in the sys tray, yeash.
[20:24] <Montego> NP firefox is especially screwy with shock wave players.
[20:24] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: okk ... so from where shud i install compiz ??
[20:25] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: If you have all the packages from that list I linked you, you should have compiz.
[20:25] <Drixx> kk
[20:25] <andresCanavesi> evideolibre
[20:25] <EADG> aram: found what you need, follow this link;  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&highlight=cannot+access+tty+gutsy
[20:26] <aram> eadG:thanks a lot
[20:26] <ng0n-ubuntu> what plugin is required to run streaming MP3 in 'Music Player' ?
[20:26] <aram> eadg :i will go to check it
[20:26] <EADG> aram: g/l
[20:27] <KinPumpkinKing> does anyone know how to lower from 24bit to 16 bit graphics, or raise to 32?
[20:27] <prakriti> is there anyway to force aptitude update to hit another mirror?
[20:27] <ax1s> Hey. I'm having trouble sending/receiving webcam with kopete/gutsy. Ports are forwarded (tcp and udp) ..  can anyone help?
[20:27] <verb3k> nickrud, you are often happy :)   http://ubuntuircstats.org/ubuntu.html
[20:27] <keithclark> Hi everyone!
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Here's the list again if you need it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49199/
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> Ignore emerald for now.
[20:27] <rohan> has anyone here used tasksel ?
[20:28] <jp30> how can I have my Ubuntu recognize my C: drive in windows?
[20:28] <rohan> i used "sudo tasksel isntall lamp-server" and it's hung at 100% .. everything seems installed and fine but now i dunno how to close tasksel !
[20:28] <ax1s> control-c ?
[20:28] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: emerald is showing the same problem ... shud i leave it ?
[20:28] <guest946> Hey... could someone please tell me approx minimum specs for a computer running Ubuntu, without X, a www/ftp server, rTorrent, cPlay and so on?
[20:28] <Whitor> How do I change the resolution of my desktop in KDE ???
[20:28] <Whitor> Don't tell me to edit my xorg file ...
[20:28] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Don't mark emerald for now.
[20:28] <rohan> Whitor: would be better to ask in #kubuntu
[20:28] <GHOST> thanx adelie!
[20:29] <ax1s> Whitor: are you using nvidia?
[20:29] <rohan> Whitor: just use krandrtray
[20:29] <Whitor> ax1s: yep nvidia m140
[20:29] <esteth> Is there a way to hibernate ubuntu, and then boot to windows, and then resume ubuntu on a future boot, or is this unsupported when both OS are on the same physical drive?
[20:29] <Whitor> rohan: TYVM !
[20:29] <GHOST> hey xubuntu is da one
[20:29] <rohan> Whitor: :)
[20:29] <ax1s> Whitor: run sudo nvidia-settings     then find where to change it in there, and don't forget to click "save config to x-org.conf"
[20:29] <GHOST> :)
[20:29] <skullhead> dos any one know what to do when your audio is off from your video on youtube??
[20:30] <ip00n> ChanServ	often changes the modes	292
[20:30] <GHOST> yea sam prob here
[20:30] <ip00n> lol
[20:30] <zelda`> lol
[20:30] <Whitor> ax1s: Ty VM too... I will try both ways and see which sticks
[20:30] <GHOST> :)
[20:30] <guest946> the ftp/www servers would just be for a small home network... it would also need to run ssh and so on..... would 400mhz be enough?
[20:30] <GHOST> hey im french!
[20:30] <flibberdy> anyone know of a good battery monitor which works with acpi and X?
[20:30] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: it ain't workin
[20:30] <zelda`> how do I compile a c program, it's named program.c
[20:30] <butcherbird> guest946: yes
[20:30] <GHOST> wow
[20:30] <rohan> zelda`: "gcc -o program program.c"
[20:31] <ripdisk> how does one convert an avi to an mp4 on ubuntu?
[20:31] <rohan> zelda`: and then to run it "./program"
[20:31] <GHOST> dunno
[20:31] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Hmm. Try reboot. It may not help though... just try.
[20:31] <butcherbird> guest946: you want a gui interface? if so id recommend a server install and maybe just xserver-xorg base xfonts and fluxbox or blackbox
[20:31] <ifireball> ripdisk: one way is to use mencoder from the command-line
[20:31] <RyZ-NBG> HOLA AY ALGIEN POR AQUI Q ME PUEDA AUXILIAR???
[20:31] <aram> q
[20:31] <ripdisk> ifireball: is there a gui for it?
[20:31] <GHOST> u guys ar from us?
[20:31] <VVelox> probally a odd question
[20:31] <l21logan99> wols: hey its me again. the guy with the wireless driver issue. I did as you suggested last night with modprobe -r and modprobe and it worked, but i still cant get the card to be recognix=zed
[20:32] <mint> hi , can someone help me with kmobiletools?
[20:32] <rohan> GHOST: not me .. i'm from india
[20:32] <GHOST> o kool!
[20:32] <guest946> butcherbird,no gui interface.... just a little server to seed torrents, play music and so on to which I can get from putty.
[20:32] <GHOST> me im french lol
[20:32] <RyZ-NBG> ALGUIEN Q HABLE SPANISH?
[20:32] <ifireball> ripdisk: I don't know, I never used a gui for that...
[20:32] <zelda`> it's saying I don't have unistd.h
[20:32] <GHOST> buenos dia amigo!
[20:32] <VVelox> If I install ubuntu to a flash drive, how hard is it to then migrate it from the flash drive to a hard drive?
[20:32] <dgjones> !es | RyZ-NBG
[20:32] <ubotu> RyZ-NBG: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:32] <ripdisk> ifireball, how would i use the command line then?
[20:32] <keithclark> Any thoughts on why Ubuntu takes about 3-4 minutes to bootup?  No title screen or anything.  Just blank until the login screen.
[20:32] <GHOST> ok amigo!
[20:32] <EADG> ripdisk: winff, kmencoder, convertit are front-ends for converting... there's also quit a few web pages that list cli if you want to go that route.
[20:32] <ifireball> ripdisk: try runng a search in synaptic and see what comes up...
[20:32] <jp30> how can I have my Ubuntu recognize my C: in Windows?
[20:33] <flibberdy> jp30: ntfs drive?
[20:33] <zelda`> it's saying I don't have unistd.h
[20:33] <zelda`> wtf
[20:33] <butcherbird> !ntfs | jp30
[20:33] <GHOST> yea
[20:33] <ubotu> jp30: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[20:33] <ripdisk> HI NENOLOD LAWL
[20:33] <guest946> jp30, add it into /etc/fstab... if it's ntfs it might be read-only.
[20:33] <GHOST> windows=ntsf
[20:33] <flibberdy> zelda`: have you tried just using make ?
[20:33] <mint> anithin can help me with kmobiletools?
[20:33] <ifireball> ripdisk: first install mencoder with synaptic
[20:33] <zelda`> I'm compiling a program
[20:33] <ripdisk> synaptic?
[20:33] <jp30> yes, it is NTFS
[20:33] <zelda`> thats .c
[20:33] <Whitor> ax1s: I like your way better... It sticks, where using krandrtray... I have to change the resolution each time... it works ... but doesn't 'stick'
[20:33] <ripdisk> ifireball, i've never used synaptic before..
[20:34] <GHOST> ubuntu its ext3 i think
[20:34] <rohan> Whitor: yes, because krandrtray doesn't edit xorg.conf i think
[20:34] <ripdisk> ifireball: i use apt-get usually
[20:34] <flibberdy> zelda, what program? does it have an INSTALL file?
[20:34] <dgjones> !ntfs | jp30
[20:34] <ax1s> ntfs-3g /dev/windows /media/wherever
[20:34] <ubotu> jp30: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[20:34] <flibberdy> or a README?
[20:34] <GHOST> freebsd ist ufs ar some thig
[20:34] <genii> better yet a Makefile
[20:34] <ifireball> ripdisk: all the same "apt-get install mencoder"
[20:34] <rohan> zelda`: you're compiling some shit DOS program ?
[20:34] <ax1s> ntfs-3g /dev/windows /media/wherever
[20:34] <GHOST> lol
[20:34] <GHOST> right
[20:34] <ax1s> Whitor:  groovey
[20:34] <zelda`> ...
[20:34]  * Whitor grooves
[20:34] <zelda`> it's not dos
[20:34] <GHOST> hey!
[20:34] <flibberdy> GHOST: linux/bsd can use pretty  much whichever partition type the user wants
[20:34] <rohan> zelda`: oops my bad ..
[20:34] <ripdisk> ifireball, it says i already have the newest version
[20:35] <GHOST> o ok!
[20:35] <guest946> butcherbird, what minimum specs would I need so it uses little power?
[20:35] <sidewalk> i just switched graphics card on my pc running ubuntu 7.10 and tried having some effects working in gnome
[20:35] <ripdisk> so apparently i downloaded and installed it already
[20:35] <jalen> anybody know of a good terminal 'edit' that I can install?
[20:35] <rohan> zelda`: you've done "sudo aptitude install build-essential" ?
[20:35] <ifireball> ripdisk: also, synaptic should be obvious enough for you, it also pops up a help screen when you run it for the 1st time...
[20:35] <GHOST> i have xubuntu in dualboot with desktopdsb
[20:35] <Flannel> jalen: nano, vim.
[20:35] <flibberdy> zelda, have you tried just typing "make"  in the directory with all the files? is there a filed called "makefile" ?
[20:35] <sidewalk> but when i try to load "special settings" it says that it cant enable the new settings
[20:35] <zelda`> wtf theres only 1% disk space left!
[20:35] <GHOST> lol
[20:35] <ifireball> ripdisk: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide; or google for another mencoder howto...
[20:35] <butcherbird> guest946: id think 64-128MB ram and pII or above would work
[20:35] <ripdisk> ifireball: i don't use any of the stuff that game with this distro, i switch to kde and stuff
[20:35] <butcherbird> guest946: basically any 30 dollar ebay computer
[20:35] <sidewalk> how do i reinstall and reconfigure my graphics card, and more important, how do i get special 3d effects working?
[20:36] <GHOST> xubuntu is fine 4 128mb
[20:36] <flibberdy> jalen: edit? you mean a text editor? there are holy wars fought over less.. vim/emacs are hardcore, nano or pico are lightweight. I like nano and vim
[20:36] <GHOST> me its xfce!
[20:36] <nickrud> verb3k, how do we get ourselves banned from that stats page :) :)
[20:36] <ifireball> ripdisk: then use adept, whatever, any package manager with a search function will do...
[20:36] <guest946> butcherbird, I'd rather just build it from old parts I can scab off other people =).... I haven't used ubuntu in ages... how much disk space does a minimal install use?
[20:37] <verb3k> nickrud, ask the site admin :)
[20:37] <ripdisk> ifireball: ok, i'm reading that page right now..
[20:37] <GHOST> first time im using irc...
[20:37] <mint> please help with kmobiletools file system!!!
[20:37] <GHOST> on xubuntu!
[20:37] <butcherbird> guest946: not sure about minimal ubuntu ive done recent debian installs at 900MB with fluxbox gui
[20:37] <zelda`> how do i empty the trash folder
[20:37] <butcherbird> guest946: old ubuntu full install was 1.8G
[20:37] <GHOST> lol
[20:37] <ifireball> ripdisk: note: I havn't read it so don't ask me about it, its just the 1st result form google...
[20:37] <guest946> butcherbird, ah excellent... I am on gentoo right now so it's atleast 10 GB >_<
[20:38] <ripdisk> ifireball: gotcha
[20:38] <GHOST> hey nice
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> zelda`: Right-click the applet on the panel. say empty
[20:38] <GHOST> lol tats it
[20:38] <butcherbird> guest946: yeah source increases it a bit :)
[20:39] <Whitor> Does VTC software exist for Ubuntu? Some sort of app that does h.323 video and audio ?
[20:39] <zelda`> how do i see how much disk space is left
[20:39] <Flannel> Whitor: check out ekiga
[20:39] <Whitor> ekiga... I'll check it out
[20:39] <EADG> zelda`: df -h in a terminal
[20:40] <zelda`> is this important
[20:40] <zelda`> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[20:40] <ripdisk> ifireball: thanks alot, it's working
[20:41] <GHOST> hey merry x mas to all by the way!
[20:41] <zelda`> next to say xmas gets a DoS
[20:41] <ip00n> it's still 3 days till xmas
[20:41] <zelda`> lol jk
[20:41] <GHOST> lol
[20:41] <ip00n> :/
[20:42] <ifireball> ripdisk: n/p just torrent the results ;)
[20:42] <GHOST> me a life lol
[20:42] <skullhead> how do you choose to install flash player 9 in to a diffrent browser besides firefox????
[20:42] <GHOST> yea how?
[20:42] <ip00n> install into a browser?
[20:42] <Flannel> skullhead: which browser?
[20:42] <ip00n> like.. get a plugin
[20:42] <zelda`> LOL theres 69% free space now
[20:43] <ifireball> skullhead: installing on firefox should make it available for all gecko browsers on your system
[20:43] <skullhead> konqueror
[20:43] <GHOST> and epiphany
[20:43] <nenolod> ripdisk, hi.
[20:43] <Flannel> skullhead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[20:43] <TBotNik_u> Resolution problem documented at: >> PB of files: http://pastebin.ca/827078, >> PB of script: http://pastebin.ca/827044, and >> log of actions taken at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645751 and: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637969 (problem #2).
[20:43] <ripdisk> nenolod, yo
[20:43]  * ripdisk vanishes
[20:43] <nenolod> ripdisk, why are you bothering me? do you have problems with my packages in ubuntu?
[20:43] <nenolod> :D
[20:44] <GHOST> lol
[20:44] <Flannel> skullhead: looks like you need to have konqueror search for new plugins, and it ought to find it
[20:44] <nickrud> verb3k, it's true, wols never sleeps
[20:44] <Drixx> it does'nt work ...
[20:44] <verb3k> nickrud, :)
[20:45]  * wols_ snores loudly
[20:45] <skullhead> ok thx flannel
[20:45] <lonejack> hi all, I installed java on system but firefox doesn't see it. What is the plugin to install:j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin? Is it good with java6?
[20:45] <GHOST> ill also try it
[20:45] <Drixx> compiz nt workin ....
[20:45] <GHOST> hum
[20:46] <verb3k> nenolod, excuse me, are you a packager or a developer ?
[20:46] <the_padawan> hello all, what distribution would you recommend for an oldish laptop, 384 Mb ram and 1.5Ghz pentium?
[20:46] <verb3k> the_padawan, ubuntu :D
[20:46] <wols_> the_padawan: any will do and such a lappie is FAR from oldish
[20:46] <nenolod> verb3k, packager. Ubuntu syncs them from Debian. :P
[20:46] <Whitor> the_padawan: ubuntu
[20:46] <GHOST> xubuntu lol
[20:46] <zelda`> why is / only editable by root
[20:47] <Whitor> security reasons
[20:47] <nenolod> verb3k, http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=nenolod@sacredspiral.co.uk
[20:47] <zelda`> well now I can't delete these files i don't need
[20:47] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: u there ??
[20:47] <ifireball> zelda`: becasue you're not meant to put files there
[20:47] <Whitor> sure you can... use sudo
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Yup. I'm really don;t know what to do now...
[20:47] <EADG> How do I get ath0/wifi0 to load and aquire an ip at boot time? This box is my remote server...
[20:47] <verb3k> nenolod, I have a little app and and want to make a .deb of it ... I have been looking for someone to package it for me...could you help?
[20:48] <nenolod> verb3k, depends on if i find it useful. :P
[20:48] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: can i somehow get my compiz workin ??
[20:48] <tritium> zelda`: really, don't threaten DoS here, please
[20:48] <verb3k> nenolod, it's useful for gamers :)
[20:48] <lonejack> hi all, I installed java on system but firefox doesn't see it. What is the plugin to install:j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin? Is it good with java6?
[20:48] <Whitor> Drixx: Check out #Compiz-fusion
[20:48] <verb3k> nenolod, PSX game CD backup tool using cdrdao as a backend
[20:48] <nenolod> verb3k, hmm. the only games i play are PS1 games in my emulator, UPE.
[20:48] <Odd-rationale> Drixx: Try taking this to the expert at #compix-fusion Sorry couldn't help more.
[20:48] <nenolod> verb3k, sure. I can do that.
[20:48] <wols_> lonejack: no. 64 or 32bit ubuntu?
[20:49] <Odd-rationale> *#compiz-fusion
[20:49] <Drixx> Odd-rationale: thnx for ur time ..... :)
[20:49] <lonejack> wols_:64
[20:49] <nenolod> verb3k, do you have a URL to a website?
[20:49] <verb3k> nenolod, yes http://psxim.googlecode.com
[20:50] <Montego> Does anyone know If there Is a Plan to offer a roll back tool for the updates? Dare I say Like Windows XP.
[20:50] <wols_> lonejack: there is no java plugin for 64bit Linux. either run nspluginwrapper with the 32bit plugin or use a 32bit firefox and the plugin. same for flash. no other way
[20:50] <wols_> monshin: no
[20:50] <wols_> Montego: no. downgrade is not possible and not anticipated
[20:51] <ifireball> Montego: you can start such a plan on the Dev. wiki....
[20:51] <MoxJet> Hello. What is the font package named with the fonts nu and clean?
[20:51] <nenolod> verb3k, i'll look into it.
[20:51] <Montego> Wols Hmm there has been problems with some Updates packages in the past. Thats why I am asking
[20:52] <tritium> Montego: that is a rare occasion, and when it happens, it is fixed.
[20:52] <flibberdy> anyone here know how i can move my gkrellm "window" in XFCE4?
[20:53] <verb3k> nenolod, I will be waiting here :)  note the program is only one file ( if you can make a menu item for it I really appreciate it. Use the Icon "media-optical" for it)
[20:53] <ifireball> Montego: seeing that some of the newer package management systems can do this kind of stuff, someone may ush that into APT eventually, like I said, if there is demand stirring up on the wiki/bug-list ppl may work on it sooner...
[20:53] <ax1s> am i the only one who has had a brand new install of kubuntu gutsys updater crash on them
[20:54] <nenolod> verb3k, can you include a Makefile to install your packages?
[20:54] <GHOST> i think so...
[20:54] <wraith> This was not the plan at all.
[20:54] <verb3k> nenolod, I don't know anything about make
[20:54] <wols_> ifireball: 21:54 <dpkg> methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently.  No future support is anticipated.  Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade.  You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>.
[20:54] <Montego> Am Not a Developer. But for us that are new to Ubuntu sure would be nice little tool when we screw things up. Will Look at Wiki. Thanks
[20:55] <GHOST> BYE ALL
[20:55] <verb3k> nenolod, that's why I am looking for a volunteer packager :)
[20:55] <MoxJet> MoxJet: They are called the artwiz fonts
[20:55] <MoxJet> n00b
[20:55] <lonejack> wols_: nspluginwrapper is already installed but when I go to page:http://javatester.org/version.html, the java doesn't work...
[20:55] <verb3k> nenolod, it's a python script and doesn't need compilation
[20:55] <ifireball> wols_: I never said its easy, but its not impossible, switching to the new init system wasn't any simpler, and it was done eventually
[20:56] <wols_> lonejack: you also need to load the javaplugin via nspluginwrapper....
[20:56] <wols_> ifireball: package management is a bit more complicated than a init system
[20:57] <nenolod> verb3k, http://nenolod.net/psxim.diff
[20:57] <alesan> hi, any idea if there is a software to access exchange 2007?
[20:57] <l21logan99> !ndiswrapper
[20:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:57] <alesan> !exchange
[20:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exchange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:58] <ifireball> wols_: that is a very academic question, and I don't necessarily agree, any case the hard stuff is never the technical details, but the developer coordination
[20:58] <aslam> i have a SAA7130 TV Tuner and it detects it but i cant get any video to show
[20:58] <verb3k> nenolod, thanks, what is the function of this file ?
[20:58] <klky> The newest kernel gives me kernel panic,suddenly after a reboot. no changes were made. What do I do? (VFS can't mode root file system etc)
[20:59] <wols_> klky: pastebin your menu.lst and sudo fdisk -l output
[20:59] <nenolod> verb3k, apply it with patch to your psxim source and it'll allow psxim to be installed via make install.
[21:01] <Owner> hi
[21:01] <Owner> hi
[21:01] <verb3k> nenolod, ok, then I first go to my source's root and then use the patch command, but I am missing the syntax ( I told you I have no clue about packaging :) )
[21:02] <n4t> hi all
[21:02] <nenolod> patch -p1 < psxim.diff
[21:02] <klky> wols_, http://paste.maxdamantus.uni.cc/170. fdisk output isn't all english
[21:02] <mirdin> ls
[21:02] <n4t> I have a problem with gutsy with the refresh rate of the screen... how can I solve the problem?
[21:02] <wols_> klky: I still want to see it
[21:02] <klky> yea I added it
[21:03] <GHOST> hey i there
[21:03] <smokie> hi all, does anyone has experience with linux-abi, i need to emulate sco unix ? Tried compiling 2.6.22 kernel with no luck ??
[21:04] <GHOST> salut !
[21:04] <wols_> klky: ls /boot/initrd*
[21:04] <Jordan_U> smokie, ##linux is probably a better place to ask
[21:04] <smokie> thanks, jordan
[21:05] <lonejack> wols_: now seems quite clear what I have to do (http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux-amd64.html). Thx
[21:05] <klky> wols_, http://paste.maxdamantus.uni.cc/171
[21:05] <Jordan_U> smokie, np, why do you need to emulate sco Unix out of curiosity?
[21:05] <n4t> I have a problem with the refresh rate of the screen
[21:05] <n4t> how can I solve?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> n4t, I assume that problem is the the refresh rate is incorrect?
[21:06] <n4t> how can I change it?
[21:06] <n4t> by console...
[21:06] <monshin3> file-roller supports the creation of password protected rars?
[21:06] <stefano> flash doesnt work, firefox says that it's not installed, flashplugin-nonfree and ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed and firefox has been restarted, has anyone any idea why?
[21:07] <kyu_flux> stefano: amd64?
[21:07] <Jordan_U> n4t, The configuration file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you edit it you should probably create a backup first
[21:07] <stefano> kyu_flux, no, standard 32bit
[21:07] <n4t> in that file isn't any information about refresh
[21:07] <kyu_flux> stefano: sorry, can't help. I had that problem with amd64 yesterday...
[21:07] <Jordan_U> n4t, You can also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[21:07] <thebreak31> org
[21:08] <n4t> Jordan_U, is a problem with the hardware .... also in the live cd I noticed that... problem
[21:08] <CB_> hey
[21:09] <CB_> hey which is better, debian or ubuntu
[21:09] <ifireball> CB_: it depends...
[21:09] <ere4si> stefano, is it for you tube?
[21:09] <wols_> CB_: depends where you ask
[21:09] <klky> ^
[21:09] <stefano> ere4si, yes
[21:09] <ifireball> CB_: also depend on what you're trying to do
[21:10] <ere4si> stefano: the shockwave plugin from firefox then :)
[21:10] <CB_> which is faster
[21:10] <stefano> ere4si, what do you mean?
[21:10] <tommy> I am running aircrack atm, just for security reasons. but Im wondering when do things appear under detected wireless' when I am scanning? If you understand;P network activity maybe?
[21:10] <verb3k> nenolod, sorry if I said anything wrong
[21:10] <CB_> oh
[21:10] <SpookyET> I need an easy script that enables/disables Internet Connection Sharing. Messing with IPTables is complicated and Firestarter does not work.
[21:10] <maxo> hi
[21:10] <maxo> is there a way I can change /var/mail/myusername so that other users can also access my mailbox?
[21:10] <GHOST> hi!
[21:10] <Ryan52> I have ubuntu 6.06 and I can't do a fresh install on this machine. Is there any way for me to get to gutsy without having to go to 6.10, then 7.04, then 7.10?
[21:11] <CB_> well im new with Ubuntu (and linux)
[21:11] <neopsyche> cool
[21:11] <GHOST> me xubuntu
[21:11] <CB_> so i dont really know
[21:11] <GHOST> da best!
[21:11] <ere4si> stefano: the shockwave plugin from here - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[21:11] <neopsyche> CB_ welkom to the linux wereld. ;-)
[21:11] <CB_> ya
[21:11] <neopsyche> lol
[21:11] <neopsyche> ;-)
[21:11] <kbrosnan> ere4si: shockwave is windows only
[21:11] <ere4si> no
[21:12] <CB_> im trying to figure out how to use terminal commands
[21:12] <GHOST> me too im noob
[21:12] <CB_> like copying files
[21:12] <CB_> oh
[21:12] <macd> CB_, well first you type them, to copy a file "cp file file"
[21:12] <kbrosnan> ere4si: yes it is, you linked to Adobe Flash Player a completely different product
[21:12] <kyu_flux> CB_: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[21:12] <mehrab1131> is there any way to change the panel,s behaviour in gnome?
[21:12] <ere4si> read further down fool
[21:12] <CB_> ok
[21:12] <Neyuth> hi! someone knows how i can see system evens in the conole or watch what is going on?
[21:12] <maxo> CB_: if you ever need documentation for a command, you type: man    followed by the command, eg. man cp
[21:12] <macd> mehrab1131, such as?
[21:13] <Neyuth> just monitorizing events
[21:13] <ifireball> CB_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[21:13] <bdancer> hallo
[21:13] <CB_> ok
[21:13] <mehrab1131> to make somthing like kde panel
[21:13] <tommy> 1 question
[21:13] <bdancer> can u help me?
[21:13] <tommy> I am running aircrack atm, just for security reasons. but Im wondering when do things appear under detected wireless' when I am scanning? If you understand;P network activity maybe
[21:13] <GHOST> o daz kool ty!
[21:13] <macd> Neyuth, pop a terminal open type "tail -f /var/log/syslog"
[21:13] <CB_> hey is gnome better than kde
[21:13] <kyu_flux> CB_: that's like asking which religion is better
[21:13] <GHOST> xcfe is better
[21:14] <maxo> lol
[21:14] <GHOST> :)
[21:14] <kyu_flux> CB_: why not try a bunch yourself and then settle on what you like the best
[21:14] <macd> mehrab1131, you can right click a panel and app/remove applets to it, and right click the applet itself once added to move, change its settings
[21:14] <hypn0> fluxbox is better than xfce :-)
[21:14] <verb3k> Neyuth, another way is dmesg or dmesg | tail
[21:14] <CB_> well what is gook in kde
[21:14] <bdancer> I've download ubuntu for 64bit AMD and Intel computers but I cant install it on my q6600... ?
[21:14] <GHOST> tats wat idid
[21:14] <maxo> CB_: try both, then make your own mind up
[21:14] <nenolod> verb3k, patch -p1 < psxim.diff
[21:14] <CB_> ok
[21:14] <GHOST> right
[21:14] <nenolod> verb3k, that's how you use the file i gave you
[21:14] <nenolod> ;p
[21:14] <Neyuth> thanks verb3k just whai i wanted!!
[21:14] <macd> bdancer, are you getting some specific error?
[21:14] <Neyuth> :D
[21:14] <kyu_flux> bdancer: not that i'm the best person here to help, I just installed ubuntu yesterday, but I have a Q6600, too, and it's up
[21:14] <verb3k> nenolod, Thank you
[21:15] <verb3k> nenolod, did you try it? what do you think if so?
[21:15] <bdancer> macd, nothing... its just shutdown my monitor after kernel load... and then nothing
[21:15] <GHOST> (0.o)
[21:15] <verb3k> Neyuth, no problem :)
[21:15] <mehrab1131> macd : I want to change its behaviour. Iwant it to hide when a window is open. I dont mean autohide
[21:15] <mehrab1131> I want it to act like a dock
[21:15] <CB_> i like gnome better
[21:15] <Arvid> I'm trying to transfer some music between my two computers. But for some reason it just goes over the internet which means it's really really solw
[21:15] <bdancer> kyu_flux, do u install 64bit verstion?
[21:15] <Arvid> any idea what to do about that?
[21:15] <mehrab1131> I tried awn but it didnt pleased me
[21:16] <GHOST> gnome is faster than kde
[21:16] <mirdin>  any unbuntu/networking experts round here?
[21:16] <CB_> yup
[21:16] <GHOST> :)
[21:16] <kyu_flux> bdancer: yup
[21:16] <macd> bdancer, does it work as a livecd, rather than installingh?
[21:16] <kyu_flux> bdancer: the problem I had was trying to setup raid
[21:16] <GHOST> yep it works
[21:17] <macd> mehrab1131, I gotcha, Im not sure you can do that, but there are alternatives like awm  to the gnome panel
[21:17] <Montego> dumb chatter. How do I get to off topic chat?
[21:17] <maxo> GHOST: I actually find KDE to be slightly faster
[21:17] <bdancer> macd, when i press "install or load or something" in grub it do nothing after kernel load
[21:17] <CB_> oh
[21:17] <macd> Montego, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <Montego> ty
[21:17] <CB_> are there other enviroments
[21:17] <GHOST> o mayby got old folk hardware lol
[21:17] <mehrab1131> but I have some problems with awn
[21:17] <mirdin> i read HP is real iffy with ubuntu
[21:17] <macd> bdancer, I'd try the 32bit one for troubleshooting reasons, but I have a feeling it doesnt like a piece of your hardware, OR you just got a bad disc burn
[21:17] <mirdin> anyone know that?
[21:18] <Montego>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <macd> mirdin, older HP's
[21:18] <Flannel> CB_: theres tons of environments
[21:18] <aslam> i have a SAA7130 TV Tuner and it detects it but i cant get any video to show
[21:18] <CB_> like what
[21:18] <macd> Montego, take the space out.
[21:18] <kyu_flux> macd: do you know if the alternative disc kernel is different than the regular disc?
[21:18] <mirdin> macd:  i'm learning that
[21:18] <Montego> oops
[21:18] <ifireball> mehrab1131: you mean, right click on panel->properties->auto hide ?
[21:18] <kyu_flux> macd: if it is, I would suggest bdancer try amd64 alternative
[21:18] <bdancer> macd, disk burn is ok, 32bit version works fine.. suse 10.3 64bit works fine but i want ubuntu ))
[21:18] <Flannel> kyu_flux: They install the same kernel
[21:18] <kyu_flux> Flannel: damn
[21:19] <GHOST> anyone got a virus on linux :( ?
[21:19] <mirdin> ifireball:  sorry to disappear, my second machine died!
[21:19] <ifireball> mirdin: oh...
[21:19] <CB_> can you get a virus in linux
[21:19] <Flannel> kyu_flux: Whats your problem?
[21:19] <kyu_flux> Flannel: of course, what do I know, I only installed this yesterday =)
[21:19] <GHOST> i thin so :(
[21:19] <kyu_flux> Flannel: the problem wasn't for me, it was for bdancer
[21:19] <bdancer> kyu_flux, i think they both have the same kernel
[21:19] <GHOST> not in bsd thoug
[21:19] <mirdin> yeah, right at the key moment when i think you were bout to solve me up
[21:19] <kyu_flux> Flannel: my box is up =)
[21:19] <ARAM> HI
[21:19] <mehrab1131> macd: how should I set awn to make it apear in startup?
[21:19] <ifireball> CB_: the theoretical possibility exists, I never heard of it happening to anyone though
[21:19] <Flannel> ah, that explains why your chat history doesnt show anything
[21:19] <GHOST> hey i the!
[21:19] <mehrab1131> and also screenlets
[21:20] <CB_> wow, need to update my security
[21:20] <macd> kyu_flux, they have the same, just different graphics options
[21:20] <Andycasss> how to create a blank file in terminal?
[21:20] <kyu_flux> Flannel: i'm just trying to figure out what I should start doing next
[21:20] <macd> mehrab1131, I dont know anything about awn
[21:20] <CB_> how do i do tha
[21:20] <CB_> that
[21:20] <mirdin> ifireball:  yeah, right when you were about to solve all my problems too, heh
[21:20] <ARAM> again i have tried the method that aedg suggest but still doesn work
[21:20] <macd> mehrab1131, but I think clicking system-->prefs-->sessions you can add it to startup
[21:20] <ARAM> it says that x server can not be...
[21:20] <Flannel> bdancer: What Have you tried so far?  The desktop CD installs, but then it wont boot the installed system? or you cant get the liveCD to boot?
[21:20] <ARAM> what shall i do?
[21:21] <mehrab1131> macd, aha, i should test it
[21:21] <ARAM> any help?
[21:21] <kyu_flux> snap, XMMS! I almost forgot about it!
[21:21] <macd> bdancer, hmm, lets see If I can find you a link to debugging the livecd boot, I think I've seen one then maybe you can get some more info byond it just sits there
[21:21] <mehrab1131> macd, thanks alot
[21:21] <ifireball> mirdin: yeah, you do have one crazy problem there... I'm reluctant to ask this when linux is involved, but did you try rebooting?
[21:21] <raf> Salut à tous, j'ai un disque dur formaté à la base pour windows (en NTFS) sur lequel j'ai installé ubuntu. Je voudrai formaté le tout pour ne réinstaller que seulement ubuntu. Comment dois-je faire en ligne de commande pour formater le tout. Thanks
[21:21] <bdancer> macd, tnx )
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Which problem, the blank file or the Xorg problem?
[21:21] <macd> !fr | ref
[21:21] <ubotu> ref: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:21] <macd> !fr | raf
[21:21] <ubotu> raf: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:21] <brobostigon> !fr | raf
[21:21] <GHOST> non reste lol!!
[21:21] <bdancer> Flannel, it doest go further then kernel load
[21:21] <maxo> raf: fdisk
[21:21] <ifireball> mirdin: I.e. seems to me something is locking your ifcae and we need to kill it somehow
[21:22] <Flannel> bdancer: In the installed system? or the liveCD?
[21:22] <mirdin> ifireball:  yeah, i did. I think it has to do with it being an old HP which i hear is shaky with ubuntu
[21:22] <raf> oui j'y suis allé mais je ne m'y retrouve pas dans tous les forms
[21:22] <Andycasss> how to create a blank file in terminal?
[21:22] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it says x server
[21:22] <macd> Flannel, the livecd
[21:22] <bdancer> Flannel, from install cd
[21:22] <mirdin> ifireball: ifcae? hmm
[21:22] <Jordan_U> Andycasss, touch <filename>
[21:22] <brobostigon> !fr | raf
[21:22] <ubotu> raf: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:22] <macd> bdancer, the livecd or the alternate install cd?
[21:22] <mirdin> ifireball: that's a clue, thanks
[21:22] <ifireball> mirdin: iface* == interface
[21:22] <bdancer> macd,  live
[21:22] <Andycasss> Jordan_U: thanks
[21:22] <Flannel> bdancer: Alright, try the alternate CD.
[21:22] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i will type all the error that it give me my graphic card is nvidea geforce
[21:22] <Zaerath> Does anyone know if you can use the normal Cisco VoIP network at a business with Ekiga, or some other VoIP software?
[21:22] <brobostigon> raf: wir verstehen nicht
[21:23] <bdancer> Flannel, they have diffrent kernels?
[21:23] <ARAM> Jordan_U: wait i will type the full massage now
[21:23] <MacTheMad> could someone take a look at these bind configs & tell me what/how I need to fix? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7021d3cb
[21:23] <maxo> raf: si vous mettez le cd d'installation ubuntu, ca formatera tout le disque dur si vous voulez
[21:23] <ifireball> mirdin: maybe try to unload/load the relevant module
[21:23] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Is this the LiveCD or an actual installed system?
[21:23] <mirdin> ifireball: ah, hmm, strange
[21:23] <GHOST> OUI C CA
[21:23] <mirdin> ifireball: i think I'm going to have another shot at it but I'll need help cause I'm new to this
[21:23] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it is live cd i want to boot and then install ubuntu on my labtop
[21:23] <Jordan_U> ARAM, There is probably no need for the whole output, and you can put the output on a thumb drive so you don't have to retype it all
[21:23] <Flannel> bdancer: no, but a lot of people have issues with the liveCD not working, but the installed system works fine.  Alternate CD will allow you to install the system
[21:24] <ifireball> mirdin: k. paste lsmod
[21:24] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Have you tried booting into safe graphics mode?
[21:24] <mirdin> ifireball: i wouldn't know which module or where
[21:24] <raf> maxo, OK merci je teste
[21:24] <bdancer> Flannel, tnx )
[21:24] <GHOST> salut :)
[21:24] <maxo> raf: bonne chance
[21:24] <macd> good like bdancer :)
[21:24] <kyu_flux> amd64 install - rhythmbox is my "preferred" multimedia application but opening a MP3 in the file browser opens up Totem
[21:24] <bdancer> macd, )
[21:24] <kyu_flux> any ideas?
[21:24] <maxo> GHOST: vous etes francais alors?
[21:24] <GHOST> heu oui!
[21:24] <ifireball> mirdin: k. paste lsmod, also lspci
[21:24] <bdancer> and what is "OEM install option"?
[21:24] <RioCunliffe> Heyy im trying to install adobe flash player and when i run the installer i get a massage Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[21:24] <RioCunliffe> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): " and no matter what dir i put it it tells me it is wrong :S can anyone help???
[21:24] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it syas fails to start the x server (your graphical intergace)
[21:24] <maxo> GHOST: ou en france?
[21:25] <macd> kyu_flux, thats due to the totem-gstreamer browser plugin
[21:25] <GHOST> a lyon :)
[21:25] <mirdin> ifireball: i gotta find a second monitor now to do more because my laptop is dead and the ubuntu box is off
[21:25] <ifireball> mirdin: btw we're talking wired here not wireless right?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> bdancer, An option for OEM's like Dell, you probably don't want it :)
[21:25] <mirdin> ifireball: wired
[21:25] <mirdin> ifireball: although I have a wireless card in there too
[21:25] <Flannel> bdancer: It allows people who sell computers to install and configure ubuntu before they sell them, and then allows the end user to setup his language, timezone, username, etc.
[21:25] <mirdin> ifireball: buut, i figure walk first
[21:25] <ARAM> Jordan_U: and then it says it is likely that it is not set up correctly
[21:25] <bdancer> Jordan_U, its like automate install>
[21:25] <kyu_flux> macd: recommend to uninstall it?
[21:25] <kbrosnan> RioCunliffe: /usr/lib/firefox
[21:26] <macd> kyu_flux, not if you want it to play in your browser
[21:26] <ifireball> mirdin: yeah
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Again, have you tried safe graphics mode ?
[21:26] <RioCunliffe> kbrosnan: cheers ill try it :)
[21:26] <ifireball> mirdin: btw did it ever work with any Linux?
[21:26] <ARAM> Jordan_U: no
[21:26] <GHOST> gotta learn about using irc chat lol!
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Please try that, it is an option when you first boot the LiveCD
[21:26] <ARAM> ok
[21:26] <GHOST> yup
[21:27] <kyu_flux> macd: what do you recommend?
[21:27] <macd> kyu_flux, rhytmbox and totem use the same backend to play your mp3's so its possible uninstalling totem could do thet, but there must be a setting somewhere
[21:27] <Arvid> anyone who are familiar with "route" ?
[21:27] <MacTheMad> can someone take a look at my bind configs & tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7021d3cb
[21:27] <ARAM> Jordan_U:  in the guide i read it says i need to press f6 and then type breakl=top and then hit return
[21:27] <macd> kyu_flux, let me dig around for a minute
[21:27] <ARAM> Jordan_U: shall i do that?
[21:27] <kyu_flux> macd: right on, thanks
[21:27] <GHOST> rythmbox is nice buddy
[21:27] <ifireball> Arvid: yes
[21:27] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Can you link to the guide?
[21:27] <bdancer> Flannel, macd, Jordan_U u greate tnx )
[21:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm on gutsy and my USB mouse and USB flash drive only work if they were plugged in when I boot. If I plug them in once it's already running, I get just a flash of light out of my mouse, and then nothing. Any ideas?
[21:28] <bdancer> kyu_flux, u2 )) tnx
[21:28] <ARAM> Jordan_U: wait
[21:28] <cyzie> how to list the content of a deb package?
[21:28] <kyu_flux> bdancer: no problem
[21:28] <kyu_flux> bdancer: hope it works out for you (i'm new, too)
[21:28] <macd> cyzie, dpkg -L package
[21:28] <kaddict> hi there
[21:28] <brobostigon> !gdebi
[21:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdebi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:28] <GHOST> hi !
[21:28] <Flannel> cyzie: dpkg -c package
[21:28] <macd> oops!
[21:29] <maxo> is it possible to specify the password when running a program through su, eg. su someuser <somethingherespecifyingpassword> -c somecommand ?
[21:29] <Arvid> ifireball: I'm trying to transfer files to my laptop but for some reason the go all they way out on the web and back. I had this problem before and last time a friend fixed it by running some route command which directed de traffic directly to the laptop
[21:29] <kaddict> could anyone tell me how to launch an app on gnome's virtual desktop 2 on boot?
[21:29] <GHOST> hey merry x mas all !
[21:29] <macd> maxo, if your user is in sudo group, you can add a line to sudoers and have it not ask for the password when it runs
[21:29] <Flannel> maxo: What are you trying to do?
[21:29] <Arvid> ifireball: (both computers (and my modem) are just plugged into a switch)
[21:29] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i dont know where is the link but i have coiped the instruction to work file do you want me to pasted here ?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ARAM, NO
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Use pastebin instead
[21:30] <ARAM> Jordan_U: what shall i do then ?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ARAM
[21:30] <maxo> Flannel: I need a php script to be able to access local mailboxes, such as /var/mail/myusername , but I'm having permissions problems
[21:30] <ubotu> ARAM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:30] <macd> maxo, so something like "%admin ALL= NOPASSWD: /path/to/run"  in /etc/sudoers
[21:30] <larry> hi, i need help for a network scanner, someone can help me?
[21:30] <cyzie> dpkg -c
[21:30] <macd> maxo, but I wouldnt dream of giving a webapp access to like that
[21:30] <GHOST> is kevin mitnick alive?
[21:30] <macd> larry, nmap? etherape?
[21:30] <Flannel> maxo: You'll want to make those mailboxes read by the user that runs the php script.
[21:30] <maxo> macd: well only one local mailbox really
[21:31] <ifireball> Arvid: what's the IPs and subnet maskes of all computers involved?
[21:31] <FlyingSquirrel32> Arvid: curious, how do you know it's going out to the internet?
[21:31] <take0n> guys please help me.. Ubuntu 7.10 KDE how do I change themes? I downloaded emerald I downloaded themes from kde-look.org, I imported those themes in emerald (I see them in the list) but.. nothing happens when I double click!!
[21:31] <Jordan_U> GHOST, AFIK yes, why don't you wikipedia him?
[21:31] <larry> hi macd
[21:31] <GHOST> o ok!
[21:31] <maxo> Flannel: I've set the mailbox as readable by others, but when a new message is received, the permissions resort to only allowing the user to read it
[21:31] <Arvid> FlyingSquirrel32: I'm getting ~100kb/s which is the same rate I can upload with
[21:31] <macd> kyu_flux, I can't find anything maybe someone else here can help you, sorry!
[21:31] <Arvid> ifireball: I'm not sure :)
[21:31] <Flannel> maxo: Ah, right.  Change the mask that new mail is created with in the mail program.  I imagine thats doable.
[21:31] <kyu_flux> macd: no problem, thanks for your help
[21:31] <kaddict> any advice about starting an application on a specific gnome desktop?
[21:31] <macd> hi larry
[21:31] <Jordan_U> take0n, Are you using emerald as the window decorator ( it's not the default in KDE or compiz ) ?
[21:32] <larry> i have a multifunction printer on a multi function print server
[21:32] <quaal> okayyy
[21:32] <ifireball> Arvid: both comps are Ubuntu?
[21:32] <quaal> i just updated to 7.10
[21:32] <maxo> Flannel: I think the mail is just received by the mail server on the computer
[21:32] <quaal> and i have no window title bars
[21:32] <GHOST> sry but i can i change a theme on xubuntu?
[21:32] <Arvid> ifireball: kubuntu, so yes
[21:32] <quaal> something wrong with compiz
[21:32] <take0n> jordan_U I know it's not but the themes I found in kde-look are for emerald so I installed it
[21:32] <larry> the printer is ok
[21:32] <take0n> what do you suggest?
[21:32] <take0n> (those theme are .emerald filetypes)
[21:32] <GHOST> sry but i can i change a theme on xubuntu?
[21:32] <maxo> Flannel: and what do you mean by mask?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> quaal, Try turning off desktop effects in System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[21:33] <Jordan_U> take0n, But are you using Emerald?
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way I can burn a audio cd to an ISO?
[21:33] <ifireball> Arvid: ok, paste results of "ipconfig" and "route -n" from both comps to pastebin (put results from both commands from one comp in the same paste plz)
[21:33] <quaal> Jordan_U, ah there it is
[21:33] <take0n> jordan_U I can't use emerald
[21:33] <quaal> thanks couldnt find it
[21:33] <ifireball> !paste | Arvid
[21:33] <ubotu> Arvid: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:33] <Montego> Will sudo apt-get remove All the system updates from 2 days ago?
[21:33] <Flannel> maxo: Right, but that still goes through a program.  A mask sets the permissions on files created by that program.  Lots of servers have configurations for it.  I'm unsure if the mail program youre using does, but its certainly worth a look.
[21:33] <take0n> thats the prob window decoration doesnt change
[21:33] <FlyingSquirrel32> could someone help me get my usb mouse to work on gutsy? It works only if it's plugged in when I boot
[21:33] <take0n> as it supposed to do
[21:33] <take0n> and I don't know how to change themes..
[21:34] <Slart> Odd-rationale: you can make a copy of the cd to a iso-file... was that what you mean?
[21:34] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it works in safe mode
[21:34] <take0n> its driving me crazy
[21:34] <Arvid> ifireball: got it - hang on
[21:34] <quaal> Jordan_U, now.. any idea what is wrong with compiz-fusion? it was working fine on 7.04 using compiz
[21:34] <maxo> Flannel: the other problem is I'm not the admin of this box (though I can ssh to it), so I have to work with what I've got.
[21:34] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it can boot in saFe mode can i install it in safe mode ?
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> Slart: No, I want to burn some .wav files to an iso.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Then I would install in safe mode then use System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager to get the right drivers for your card AFTER you have restarted into the installed system
[21:35] <Slart> Odd-rationale: oh.. you want to create a iso-file.. instead of burning the an actual cd
[21:35] <GHOST> sry but how can i change a theme on xubuntu?
[21:35] <Arvid> ifireball: the desktop:
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> Slart: Exactly.
[21:35] <MikeH> I have a problem, I restarted X, and I got a message saying that no valid graphics driver could be found (even though I've been using the ATI restricted one for weeks)
[21:35] <Arvid> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/827591
[21:35] <MikeH> Now I'm stuck in 800x600
[21:35] <MikeH> any ideas?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> MikeH, How did you install the ATI driver?
[21:35] <GHOST> its ur drivers
[21:35] <ARAM> ok wait a sec
[21:35] <MikeH> Jordan_U, through restricted drivers.
[21:36] <Montego>  "sudo apt-get remove" Will this remove all the system updates from 2 days ago?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Montego, No
[21:36] <Montego> Dam LOL
[21:36] <Montego> what about --Purge?
[21:36] <MacTheMad> hello? anyone? can someone please take a look at these bind configs & tell me what's wrong? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7021d3cb
[21:36] <ARAM> Jordan_U: in safe mode resoulation is so big 800x600 i can not access the next button
[21:36] <Slart> Odd-rationale: I'm pretty sure you can do this.. I just don't know how.. perhaps cdrecord (newest version is named something else) has something..
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Montego, No
[21:37] <Montego> Dam Strike 2
[21:37] <ARAM> Jordan_U: and also i can not change the resoulation
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> Slart: I read here that you can mount an iso as writable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[21:37] <take0n> so Jordan_U what should I do?
[21:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: Places->CD Creator.   Put your .wav files there and click Write to disc.
[21:37] <raf> c'est quoi la ligne de commande pour savoir si c'est un 32 ou 64 bit ??
[21:37] <Jordan_U> ARAM, Yeah, they really need to deal with that, you can move the window up by holding alt and dragging the window
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> FlyingSquirrel32: Will that be data or audio?
[21:37] <Kl4m> #ubuntu-fr
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > raf
[21:37] <larry> macd, you are there?
[21:38] <GHOST> hey bonne vacances aux lycéens :)
[21:38] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i didnt get it say that again
[21:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: you said wav files, so I assumed data, which do you want?
[21:38] <macd> larry, yes can I help you?
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> FlyingSquirrel32: I wanted audio.
[21:38] <larry> i hope
[21:38] <Sindri> Hi, I need some help with a first time install.
[21:38] <ARAM> Jordan_U: it doesnt work
[21:38] <Jordan_U> take0n, If you want to use an emerald theme then you need to use emerald as your window decorator, that also means that you will need a composited window manager like compiz or xcompmgr
[21:38] <GHOST> wat is it
[21:38] <larry> i need toconfigure a network scanner
[21:38] <Jordan_U> ARAM, What doesn't work?
[21:38] <Slart> Odd-rationale: mkisofs can create iso-files.. don't know how to convince to create an audio-cd instead of a regular data cd
[21:38] <take0n> ooh thanks!!
[21:38] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i hold alt but nothing happen hold alt and press up arrow
[21:39] <MikeH> how can I get ubuntu to reconfigure my display?
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: I think he wants to encode wavs to create audio cd's
[21:39] <Jordan_U> ARAM, No, you need to hold alt then click on the window and drag it up
[21:39] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i can not move the position of windows
[21:39] <butcherbird> MikeH: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:39] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: he wants to create a cd-image.. not burn the actual cd
[21:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: Oh, let me see.
[21:39] <macd> larry, what do mean by configure? you mean use?
[21:39] <butcherbird> wait just create an image of cd? cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso or use dd
[21:39] <Jordan_U> Odd-rationale, I think k3b will let you do that
[21:39] <ARAM> Jordan_U: but there is no place to drag it up it stick to the panel
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: HIs questions are not well worded
[21:40] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: a cd-image that, if burnt to a cd, would give him an audio cd.. at least that's how I understood it
[21:40] <GHOST> lol extropiens sux
[21:40] <Arvid> ifireball: sorry it took some time. here they are: desktop: http://pastebin.ca/827591 laptop: http://pastebin.ca/827597
[21:40] <MikeH> can anyone also tell me what driver an at x800xt should be using?
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> Jordan_U: OK I'll take a look.
[21:40] <macd> MikeH, fglrx, or ati.
[21:40] <bdancer> guys!!! sorry for my panic )) i just need to wait for about a minute and then install continues greate!! )) tnx for all ))
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> Sorry for the confusion.
[21:40] <butcherbird> MikeH: or vesa in case of badness
[21:40] <Jordan_U> ARAM, It will work, just try it ( you can also hide the panels if you want, but that is not neccisary )
[21:41] <andrej> Hello, is there an easy way to retrieve packages for a version I don't have installed? I've installed my brother in law a dapper 6.06.01 server (running 7.04 myself). He's on dial-up, and I'd like to d/l the packages he needs to get on my broadband and burn them onto CD
[21:41] <Montego> If I post a launchpad topic in here could someone check it out and let me know what i need to do to get it taken seriously by Ubuntu developers? Or is this not that chat to do this?
[21:41] <macd> MikeH, if you've recently upgraded to a new version of ubuntu, you may have to reconfigure your xserver
[21:41] <MacTheMad> am I an unwanted stepchild or something?
[21:41] <take0n> ok Jordan I installed xcompmgr
[21:41] <take0n> what do I do next?
[21:41] <bdancer> macd: it all ok ))
[21:41] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i have hide the up and down pannel and the try to drag but there is no place for mouse to go upper
[21:41] <ifireball> Arvid: what a mess... both machines get real internet addresses, and on different subnets, no wonder you need to mess with routs
[21:41] <macd> Montego, post the url, maybe its not even beebn looked at
[21:41] <Sindri> I have never used linix before. downloaded latest version and burned. when installing it gets to 21%. says loading libc6-vdeb and zreezes. tried redownloading and burned another copy, but it does the same thing.  trying to run it on a dell server 933 P3 x2 with mirrored raid
[21:41] <Jordan_U> take0n, I think it's "emerald --replace"
[21:41] <Slart> Odd-rationale: Brasero lets you chose if you want to burn to a cd or to a image
[21:41] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i can drag it down but not up
[21:41] <larry> please, someone can help me with a network scanner?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> take0n, To start emerald
[21:41] <Slart> Odd-rationale: and it handles audio cd's
[21:41] <Montego> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemRestore
[21:41] <Arvid> ifireball: I don't know any thing about networking :) I just plug them in
[21:41] <MikeH> macd, I'm still on gutsy, as originally installed
[21:42] <Odd-rationale> Slart: OK Thanks for that!
[21:42] <kyu_flux> anyone: totem visualization broken after xmms install
[21:42] <MikeH> however there were alot of updates that I installed previous to this happening actually
[21:42] <ifireball> Arvid: you should real consider getting a router and setting up a real home network, it'll be more secure too...
[21:42] <kyu_flux> anyone: any ideas how to fix the vis?
[21:42] <bdancer> Jordan_U: no need to download alternate )) everything works )
[21:42] <GHOST> lol how can i awser to a dude here?
[21:42] <take0n> do you mean I should type xcompmgr emerald --replace ?
[21:42] <take0n> in terminal?
[21:42] <macd> larry,what are you trying todo? use a network scanner, like nmap? launch a terminal type "sudo apt-get install nmap" then type "man nmap" to see howto use it.
[21:42] <MikeH> How can I get ubuntu to automatically configure my display as it did before.
[21:42] <ifireball> Arvid: anycase let me see about routs...
[21:42] <macd> MikeH, and it just magically stopped working, or?
[21:42] <MikeH> macd, well, it was fine, until I restarted X a minute ago
[21:42] <macd> MikeH, you can run from console, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure it
[21:43] <MikeH> macd, That requires input from me, ubuntu originally configured my X server automatically, this must be possible again.
[21:43] <macd> MikeH, if you applied the updates from earlier, and didnt reboot only restarted X you might have a problem till you reboot
[21:43] <butcherbird> MikeH: just select driver then enter for defaults on everything you dont know the answer to
[21:43] <larry> i need help for a image scanner
[21:43] <Jordan_U> ARAM, OK, right click the top and / or bottom panel and choose preferences, there should be an option to add hide buttons to the panel
[21:43] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: Wikipedia says in the second paragraph that the .iso format doesn't support audio CD's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_image
[21:43] <macd> MikeH, yes, just tell it your card, then hit enter throughout the rest of the process
[21:43] <MikeH> brb, I'll restart X, and macd, I have rebooted
[21:43] <staykovmarin> hi, i have a computer that cannnot be connected to the internet, but needs the restricted packages. is there a way to get them off the cd?
[21:44] <ifireball> Arvid: on the desktop: sudo route add -host 85.235.18.100 dev eth0
[21:44] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: Ever try imaging an audio cd you already have?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> take0n, No, likely "xcompmgr --replace && emerald --replace" But that is just a guess
[21:44] <larry> macd, i need help for a ethernet image scanner
[21:44] <KiD_ChAoS> OK, i got my Ubuntu machine plugged into my 42 Inch LCD flat screen, but it when i do that it changes my resolution to like 800 X 600. does anyone know how to fix this
[21:44] <tuxke> 1~q
[21:44] <GHOST> ENTROPY HERE
[21:44] <ifireball> Arvid: no w8
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> FlyingSquirrel32: That is interesting. I'll have to try and find out.
[21:44] <andrej> staykovmarin : which CD?
[21:44] <macd> Jordan_U, they also have that compiz-fusion tray icon that does that with a right click
[21:44] <Arvid> ifireball: too late :/
[21:44] <staykovmarin> andrej: not the live one, the other one
[21:44] <ranok> ok, here's my problem
[21:45] <quaal> ownt
[21:45] <ifireball> Arvid: ok, it was ok
[21:45] <MikeH> macd, I think I've figured it
[21:45] <Arvid> ifireball: well - now I'm transfering with 1megabyte/second
[21:45] <Kernel> hmm ive got a very large file(30 gigs) and i went to rm -rf the file...when i ran rm -rf it was done in like 1 second.....that much data takes longer to delete....so i did a ls and it stll using all 30 gigs of space
[21:46] <MikeH> I think ubuntu has defaulted back to xorg, instead of xgl.
[21:46] <FlyingSquirrel32> Odd-rationale: I never knew that either.
[21:46] <macd> larry, if you worded your questions where I could understand them, I could possibly help, and there is no cuh thing as an ethernet image scanner
[21:46] <lesshaste_>  any idea where I can download some legal flac audio?
[21:46] <take0n> Jason isn't there a way to do this throu a tool not through terminal?
[21:46] <Kernel> lol clonex is for 13 year olds...go flood somewhere else
[21:46] <MikeH> macd, I'll write that again with the mass join/quit, I think the problem is that it's defaulted back to xorg instead of xgl
[21:46] <Montego> what the . How do I stop this flooding
[21:46] <SuperQ> lesshaste_: linnrecords
[21:46] <GHOST> WTFF
[21:46] <quaal> dddddddddddbags
[21:46] <macd> oh my
[21:46] <ifireball> Arvid: on the laptop: sudo route add -host 213.185.7.8 dev eth0
[21:46] <GHOST> IS TCP FLOODING WORK HERE,
[21:46] <macd> help!
[21:46] <ifireball> Arvid: on the laptop: sudo route add -host 213.185.7.8 dev eth0
[21:46] <GHOST> lol
[21:46] <macd> MikeH, xorg and xgl are not the same thing
[21:46] <MikeH> Montego, turn off join/quit notifications
[21:46] <macd> they work with each other
[21:46] <macd> MikeH, xorg and xgl dont do the same thing, you use both.
[21:46] <Montego> ok
[21:46] <lesshaste_> SuperQ, thx...checking it out
[21:46] <MikeH> macd, ok, fair enough.
[21:46] <Arvid> ifireball: right
[21:47] <Invert314> are there any Ubuntu users here who are extremely knowledge able with regards to networking and startup daemons?
[21:47] <verb3k> what's happening in this channel?
[21:47] <Kernel> how can i reclaim this 30 gigs?
[21:47] <MikeH> I'm sure its related to this though. and after running reconfigure, nothing has changed macd
[21:47] <Kernel> i cant find the file anywhere on my puter
[21:47] <macd> MikeH, if you want to fix it, use the command I gave you earlier, I can even walk you through the questions
[21:47] <macd> MikeH, ohhh
[21:47] <staykovmarin> any ideas on how to install them?
[21:47] <KiD_ChAoS> OK, i got my Ubuntu machine plugged into my 42 Inch LCD flat screen, but it when i do that it changes my resolution to like 800 X 600. does anyone know how to fix this
[21:47] <thinh> where is the gdm resolution stored at?
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> FlyingSquirrel32: Which should i try first? Burn my "audio iso" to disk and see if it plays and standard CD players? Or create an image of an existing cd?
[21:47] <ifireball> Arvid: essentially its: sudo route add -host <IP address of other machine here> dev eth0
[21:47] <radioaktivstorm> I have a question why does my gksu respond so slowly when i input my password?
[21:47] <MikeH> macd, I'm quite capable of going through x config, but give me a minute, I just re-enabled restricted driver, rebooting
[21:47] <lesshaste_> SuperQ, I meant for free.. i just want to test a flac tool!
[21:47] <quaal> anyone have a link/guide for getting the titlebars back on windows in compiz-fusion? it was working fine in compiz on 7.04 before i upgraded
[21:47] <Invert314> are there any Ubuntu users here who are extremely knowledge able with regards to networking and startup daemons?
[21:48] <Arvid> ifireball: what does it actually do?
[21:48] <ifireball> Arvid: you see the IP address when running "ifconfig"
[21:48] <macd> MikeH, what does "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" tell you
[21:48] <snarkyFish> Anyone else using ubu + vmware and having network problems?
[21:48] <andrej> staykovmarin : does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625360&highlight=add+cdrom+repo%2A
[21:49] <Kernel> :-)
[21:49] <RandyboY> Im having a problem with my wireless nic. When shutting down it hangs on "stopping wpa_supplicant interfaces" or something. _And_ cupsys hangs the machine in boot... Whats this? Any known problem?
[21:49] <ifireball> Arvid: it tells it that despite the fact that the IP addresses make it look otherwise, the specified machine is connected directly or through a switch to the eth0 network card
[21:49] <staykovmarin> andrej: i dont have a dvd burner :(
[21:49] <Arvid> ifireball: got it - I'll write it down this time. ...untill I get a router
[21:50] <staykovmarin> i only need mp3 support, the rest i can take care of later
[21:50] <ziyax> staykovmarin, try medibuntu
[21:50] <andrej> staykovmarin :  I was thinking about the bits where it talks about adding the media with packages to your sources.list
[21:51] <andrej> staykovmarin : if the packages from restricted were on the CD they should show up in your package manager then
[21:51] <andrej> If they're not - tought luck
[21:51] <andrej> tough
[21:51] <staykovmarin> well i added the cd as a repo
[21:51] <staykovmarin> and it still wants to download them
[21:52] <andrej> Did you add it at the top of the list?
[21:52] <Jordan_U> !offline | staykovmarin
[21:52] <ubotu> staykovmarin: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[21:52] <scragar> staykovmarin: if the files on the CD then it'll use the CD, otherwise it uses the net
[21:52] <Arvid> ifireball: however, now it's transfering with about 3.5MByte/s which is acceptable here. but shouldn't it be able to go with ~10MB/s
[21:53] <ifireball> Arvid: what are you transferring with? the actual speed depends on many factors
[21:53] <ARAM> Jordan_U: i want to create manual partiton i have create 150 mb for /boot which is primiry
[21:53] <Arvid> just scp'ing with konqueror (fish://)
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[21:53] <ARAM> Jordan_U: do all partition need to be primiry ?
[21:54] <MacTheMad> hello?????
[21:54] <Jordan_U> ARAM, No
[21:54] <KiD_ChAoS> OK, i got my Ubuntu machine plugged into my 42 Inch LCD flat screen, but it when i do that it changes my resolution to like 800 X 600. does anyone know how to fix this
[21:54] <ARAM> Jordan_U: what shall do make boot and swap primary and rest like home and root logical?
[21:55] <staykovmarin> okay so after i generate teh download script, and download them, do i just install them indivigually on the target machine?
[21:55] <zelda`> how do i set firefox's homepage
[21:55] <MikeH> macd, got a bit further this time, managed to  get 1152x768 even though I told xorg-config to do 1600x1200
[21:55] <MikeH> but lots of stuff is broken.
[21:55] <scragar> KiD_ChAoS: change it back under preferences > screen resolution, then edit the screen in settings > screens to set the screen defaults
[21:55] <andrej> 3rd time lucky? :D Is there an easy way to retrieve packages for a version I don't have installed? I've installed my brother in law a dapper 6.06.01 server (running 7.04 myself). He's on dial-up, and I'd like to d/l the packages he needs to get on my broadband and burn them onto CD
[21:55] <sidewalk> which kernel should i use in my ubuntu?
[21:55] <froek> zelda`, edit->preferences
[21:55] <sidewalk> -generic, or the one without -generic?
[21:55] <MikeH> Surely there is a way to run whatever script ubuntu uses to initially configure your display?
[21:55] <ARAM> Jordan_U: or just i need one primary ?
[21:56] <RandyboY> How do i "ignore" og "jump over" the startup of cupsd?
[21:56] <zelda`> in windows it was tools - options -,- why was it changed
[21:56] <kbrosnan> zelda`: visit the page you want and drag the icon in the addres bar to the home icon
[21:56] <KiD_ChAoS> ok scragar thank you
[21:56] <ifireball> Arvid: so you're coping over ssh, its not very fast, so the speeds you're getting are normal for a 100mbit network
[21:56] <Arvid> ifireball: what should i then use? ftp?
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeH: sudo dpkg is how it is done, there is no automagic script
[21:57] <ARAM> Jordan_U: any help?
[21:57] <MikeH> Jack_Sparrow, I certainly didn't make any input to xorg-config
[21:57] <ifireball> Arvid: you may get better results with NFS, but it may not be worth the trouble of setting up, it may also be a security risk in your case since your computers are on the real internet and not behind any kind of firewall
[21:57] <MikeH> and if this was the case Jack_Sparrow, why is it yielding different results now?
[21:57] <vincenz> Hello, this is a bit OT, but anyone that is familiar with internal laptop hds?  I bought a new one to relace my current ne, since my current one is breaking.  I have an external case. However, taking out my old harddrive, it has this flat divider with connectors on both sides so it does not fit in the casing.  That being said, the new harddrive has unique pins, will this fit in the laptop?
[21:57] <Montego> ifireball have you had time to check out the url I posted?
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeH: I am aware of that, but there is no stand alone script to configure that.
[21:57] <Arvid> ifireball: okey - I'll just let it be as it is now then
[21:58] <ifireball> Arvid: FTP will most probably be slower
[21:58] <kyu_flux> is there anything better than gDesklets?
[21:58] <Zerhash> does anyone in here know how to get nvidia going on ubuntu when it keeps trying to use vesa
[21:58] <Pici> vincenz: Indeed it is offtopic, try ##hardware
[21:58] <Arvid> ifireball: it works - no reason to break it now. I need the data tomorrow :)
[21:58] <Invert314> ubuntu won;t start...full error message at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644810
[21:58] <vincenz> Pici: thx
[21:58] <ere4si> !nfs
[21:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[21:58] <ifireball> Montego: sorry, I must have lost you in all the floods, remind me what are we talking about (and paste again)
[21:58] <Arvid> ifireball: but thank you a lot for your help!
[21:58] <Zerhash> hrnn
[21:59] <Montego> ok
[21:59] <soho> where can i find the devices that are showed in nautilus-sendto?
[21:59] <ARAM> any help would be appreciated about how to create a manual partiton
[21:59] <soho> where are they stored?
[21:59] <MacTheMad> PLEASE!!!!! It would be really nice if someone would kindly take a look at this... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7021d3cb & tell me what I did wrong or how to fix... r u guys answering me & it's just not coming thru? this is like the 5th time I asked & nobody even told me to po or anything
[21:59] <chx> I tried installing the firefox-3.0 package and it's an early alpha. Is there an easy way to up it to Firefox 3.0 beta 2?
[21:59] <Montego> launchpad topic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemRestore
[21:59] <Synx_hm> Is there a way to del selective files recusive, ie i want to  del all the *.ini and *.db files in my entire music folder
[21:59] <Zerhash> does anyone know how to set up an nvidia driver
[21:59] <Synx_hm> I am not familiar with all the switches for del
[22:00] <chx> Synx_hm: find music -name \*.ini
[22:00] <chx> Synx_hm: if that lists the files you want, then
[22:00] <ARAM> any one can help?
[22:00] <soho> where can i find the devices that are showed in nautilus-sendto?
[22:00] <zelda`> My internet speed is 128 kb/s but this download is going at 90 kb/s whys it doing that -.-
[22:00] <chx> Synx_hm: find music -name \*.ini -exec rm {} \;
[22:01] <Synx_hm> chx: thanks ;)
[22:01] <ARAM> i need to create partiton
[22:01] <mitchp> how do I find the address for my bluetooth headset?
[22:01] <fwaokda> where can i find the perform in xChat
[22:01] <Invert314> won't somebody help me?
[22:01] <mitchp> ARAM: install gparted
[22:01] <Drule> Merry christmas and happy new year ubuntu
[22:01] <ifireball> Montego: noce
[22:01] <ifireball> Montego: nice*
[22:01] <Invert314> i feel so pathetic begging for help like this
[22:01] <proprietarysucks> Invert314: what's your situation
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ARAM: You can do it with gparted if you want a gui tool to do it...
[22:01] <mitchp> Invert314: what was your question?
[22:01] <Invert314> ubuntu won;t start...full error message at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644810
[22:02] <Zerhash> why does ubuntu keep using the vesa driver when it should be using nvidia
[22:02] <zelda`> My internet speed is 128 kb/s but this download is going at 90 kb/s whys it doing that -.-
[22:02] <Zerhash> this is such a pain in the ass
[22:02] <Drule> http://tunez.drule.net/merry_christmas_from_drule.mp3
[22:02] <Drule> a gift from me
[22:02] <Drule> to you
[22:02] <zelda`> w/e then >:(
[22:02] <Montego> ifireball How would I get Ubuntu Developers to take it serious?
[22:02] <Jimmy_saint> can not install ATI driver, getting error message: The software source for the package xorg-driver-fglrx  is not enabled.
[22:02] <mitchp> ARAM: can you get into a terminal?
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Zerhash: because something else is wrong in there like v / h refresh rates etc
[22:02] <ARAM> Jack_Sparrow: i know how to do it i ask about information like how many primery i can have an how many logical
[22:03] <mitchp> sry, not ARAM
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | Drule
[22:03] <ubotu> Drule: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:03] <ARAM> mitchp: i am in safe mode and try to install
[22:03] <mitchp> Invert314: can you get into a terminal?
[22:03] <ifireball> Montego: if you're not gonna write the code yourself, you can only hope...
[22:03] <Invert314> mitchp, no
[22:03] <mitchp> ARAM: install what
[22:03] <Invert314> i can't log in with vts
[22:03] <Drule> Yes, just wanted to bring a bit of christmas spirit to #ubuntu.
[22:03] <mitchp> Invert314: load into safe mode, that should prevent GDM from starting and give you a terminal
[22:03] <ifireball> Montego: and keep making noise everywhere, on forums/etc...
[22:03] <Invert314> right now i'm on a live cd
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ARAM: 4 ptimary max
[22:03] <zelda`> how do I make netstat only show internet connections
[22:03] <Invert314> mitchp, yes, that works
[22:04] <mitchp> Invert314: ok wait
[22:04] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i got an old IPOD shuffle, that i just use as a USB stick..... how can i format the damn thing?
[22:04] <mitchp> Invert314: on a live cd you should be able to access your filesystem
[22:04] <ARAM> mitchp: i have create 150 for /boot as primery and 4gb for swap as logical and 10gb root as logical and 10gb /home as logical as well
[22:04] <mneisen> Hello, can anybody guess the solution to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646827 ? Thanks in advance!
[22:04]  * vincenz sighs :(
[22:04] <Zerhash> how do i check the xorg config that nvidia-xconfig sets up?
[22:04] <Montego> I can do make noise. LOL
[22:04] <mitchp> Invert314: open a terminal and cd to /etc/rc2.d
[22:04] <Invert314> mitchp, i can access my filesystem easily
[22:04] <zelda`> how do I make netstat only show internet connections >:(
[22:04] <Invert314> will do
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> ToddEDM: use gparted
[22:04] <ARAM> mitchp: i just want to know which is better primary or logical which one shall i use/\
[22:05] <ToddEDM> nosrednaekim:  thanks
[22:05] <Grandslammaster> i just installed apache how do i get it working
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> !LAMP
[22:05] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:05] <zelda`> seriously how do I make netstat only show internet connections
[22:05] <mitchp> ARAM: I believe you want primary for everything except swap
[22:05] <Invert314> mitchp, i am at /mnt/hda1/etc/rc2.d
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> zelda`: -n I think.
[22:05] <zelda`> klol ty
[22:05] <zelda`> nope
[22:06] <ifireball> mitchp: that would be just the opposite of what you'd want
[22:06] <Jimmy_saint> can not install ATI driver, getting error message: The software source for the package xorg-driver-fglrx  is not enabled.
[22:06] <ARAM> mitchp: could you please explain why swap do not need primary ?because when i create swap as primary then it says the rest of the hard drive are unusable
[22:06] <mitchp> Invert314: hmm, I thought there was a networking script there that you could disable temporarily to stop that error, however that would also stop you from having a network connection.  I'm thinking you need to reinstall network-manager
[22:06] <Grandslammaster> how do i fugure out my websights ip
[22:06] <ARAM> if i have 2gb ram what is the best choise to creat e swap
[22:06] <ARAM> 4gb?
[22:07] <ifireball> ARAM: if you can avoid using extended partitions (e.g. use less then 5) by all means do so
[22:07] <Acxty> HI, I have a movie in avi that I want to convert it to dvd format. Is there any tool for that on debian or ubuntu?
[22:07] <ARAM> because often is double of am
[22:07] <Invert314> mitchp, how would i reinstall networkmanager?
[22:07] <bundagan> is there anything better than avidemux for editing videos?
[22:07] <Slart> ARAM: ye old books says twice the ram.. so 4 GB
[22:07] <bundagan> why doesn't ubuntu come with a video editor by default?
[22:07] <Slart> ARAM: but ye old books are getting old.. it might have changed
[22:07] <scragar> Grandslammaster: from a terminal ping it, it shows what it works the IP to be
[22:07] <macd> bundagan, you can install one from synaptic.
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> zelda`: no clue then
[22:07] <butcherbird> ARAM: swap isnt a big deal these days also you can format a swap file and use that
[22:07] <ARAM> Slart: what shall i do the 2gb?
[22:08] <butcherbird> ARAM: er create a swap file
[22:08] <Slart> ARAM: I'd do 4GB
[22:08] <scragar> Acxty: Devede is perfect for the job
[22:08] <ToddEDM> nosrednaekim:  gparted is just sitting there Scanning all Devices.....................................taking forever
[22:08] <mneisen> Hello, can anybody guess the solution to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646827 ? Thanks in advance!
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> butcherbird: IT is still best for the average user to create a swap partition
[22:08] <Acxty> thanks
[22:08] <ziyax> Jimmy_saint, try to use Envy
[22:08] <ARAM> Slart: why i can not create swap as primary ?
[22:08] <mitchp> Invert314: You would need to download the .deb package for it onto your hard drive while using the liveCD, then disable the networking script so it'll boot, then apt-get remove network-manager.  Then double click the .deb package to reinstall it.  However when you remove it you might delete your dependencies.  Let me go look at the debian site
[22:08] <ifireball> ARAM: primary/extended has to do with the way dos-compatible partitions work on PC, technically its very ugly, though not that important
[22:08] <Grandslammaster> how do i ping it
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ziyax: bad idea.. envy is evil
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> ToddEDM: let it run.... if it never starts, do it from the command line with cfdisk
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimmy_saint: DOnt use envy
[22:08] <Slart> ARAM: you can only have 4 primary partitions.. that could be it?
[22:08] <ziyax> Jack_Sparrow, not for me i'm happy with it
[22:09] <scragar> ToddEDM: fdisk is faster, although it is a little more likly to delete things
[22:09] <Zerhash> how do i get the nvidia driver working? anyone?
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme > ziyax
[22:09] <ziyax> haha^^
[22:09] <Grandslammaster> scragar: how do i ping it
[22:09] <ActySofts> hello all
[22:09] <ToddEDM> scragar:  i want the whole thing wiped
[22:09] <ifireball> ARAM the more important factor is WHERE the partitions are on the disk, the closer they are to the beginning the faster they work, so you want / (root) and swap as close to the beginning as possible
[22:09] <Invert314> thank you mitchp
[22:09] <scragar> Grandslammaster: from a teminal type "ping URL"
[22:10] <Grandslammaster> i dont know the url
[22:10] <ActySofts> k3b says me that the charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968 and that it shouldn't be like that
[22:10] <Grandslammaster> right now it is an ip but i dont know it
[22:10] <ActySofts> it suggests me to check if the LC* eviro variables are set, how?
[22:10] <mitchp> Invert314: I would think there'd be a way to reinstall it from the data on the LiveCD but that's over my head
[22:10] <Grandslammaster> i just installed apache
[22:10] <zelda`> is initrf.img important or can I delete it
[22:10] <ARAM> ifireball: ok i mean i have external hard drive which is 80 gb and i want to install ubuntu on it
[22:10] <zelda`> * initrd.img
[22:10] <head____________> zelda`: why would you delete it>
[22:11] <head____________> ?
[22:11] <Invert314> mitchp, this livecd isn't ubuntu, it's elivecd
[22:11] <ranok> zelda`: keep it
[22:11] <ifireball> ARAM: ok?
[22:11] <zelda`> to free space
[22:11] <Grandslammaster> i know it will start with 65.xx.xxx.xxx
[22:11] <mitchp> Invert314: Oh, ok
[22:11] <scragar> ToddEDM: then choose fdisk, but fdisk unlike gparted doesn't build lists of tasks, it does them as you choose to, so if your planning on setting up something complicated use gparted
[22:11] <ARAM> ifireball: but the problem is that i have to ntfs partiton which is my personal thing on it and i dont want to use it
[22:11] <ranok> zelda`: it's the initial ram image
[22:11] <Zerhash> anyone know how to get the nvidia driver going on ubuntu
[22:11] <head____________> zelda`: to free <10M space?
[22:11] <bundagan> how can i quickly uninstall all games?
[22:11] <ARAM> ifireball: but ubuntu want to use the as /boot
[22:11] <zelda`> ok what can I get rid of to clear about 200MB of space
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Invert314: Elive caused me nothing but grief.. no support what so ever...
[22:11] <head____________> zelda`: the porno.
[22:12] <zelda`> I don't have any
[22:12] <ifireball> ARAM: you don't need a /boot, just make "/", "/home" ans swap
[22:12] <ranok> zelda`: /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[22:12] <ifireball> and*
[22:12] <ARAM> ifireball: i dont know what to do because they are to partiton ntfs at the end of hard and each are 20gb and i just wan to use another 40 gb of hard and just leave them without making any change to them
[22:12] <ranok> Zerhash: the OSS one, or the official Nvidia one?
[22:12] <ActySofts> k3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. how can I fix it?
[22:12] <mitchp> Invert314: Try this before anything else:  boot into safe mode (terminal) and run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[22:12] <vincenz> ok, I debootstrapped onto a new harddrive that is in a USB case.  Installed grub on it and installed all the necessary packages.  how would I now replace this with my laptop hd, do I -need- a livecd to finalize or will it work?
[22:12] <ifireball> ARAM: then you'd have only 4 partitions and all can be primary
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> zelda`: "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[22:12] <Tyczek> there is available 7.12 Ati driver
[22:12] <Invert314> mitchp, i did that already
[22:12] <fwaokda> if AWN isn't in the repos is there another way of getting it?
[22:12] <zelda`> LOL this download is at 69% done
[22:12] <scragar> Grandslammaster: wait, you just installed apache? then run ifconfig, the IP is listed after "inet addr:"
[22:12] <head____________> zelda`: as a rule, don't touch anything that lives in {/,/boot,/root,/usr,/var} and is owned by root
[22:12] <Zerhash> ranok: official nvidia
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> Tyczek: yep... works well for me
[22:12] <Invert314> a fresh kernel was doanloaded and installed
[22:13] <Tyczek> nosrednaekim, yep... for me too
[22:13] <Invert314> didn't allow me to boot gdm
[22:13] <Tyczek> they added new option
[22:13] <Zerhash> ranok: pm?
[22:13] <zelda`> I'm the owner of the computer so I'm root
[22:13] <ifireball> ARAM: there is more then one NTFS partition?
[22:13] <ARAM> ifireball: i know but when prepare partiton windows show a partitons the problem is
[22:13] <ranok> Zerhash: yeah
[22:13] <ARAM> ifireball: yes 2
[22:13] <Tyczek> powerplay- and resolution is not reseting after restart ;}
[22:13] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:13] <mitchp> Invert314: after reading some more things, it appears this may be more complicated than anticipated.  Do you not have an Ubuntu CD?
[22:13] <ranok> ok, here's my question: I have gusty installed, (fully updated), using LILO rather than grub, and all of a sudden it stops working
[22:13] <ranok> after a minor kernel update
[22:13] <ARAM> ifireball: linux know then as unknown and when i click on edit partiton it shows linux use this two ntfs as /boot
[22:13] <ActySofts> ranok: why use lilo?
[22:13] <Invert314> mitchp, i do have an ubuntu cd
[22:13] <zelda`> lol I'm using ubuntu to burn a debian CD
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> zelda`: You can take everything from var/cache/apt/archives/ and burn it to disk so that you will not need to download it again later shold you want to reinstall
[22:13] <ifireball> ARAM, the existing partitions, are they primary or extended?
[22:14] <Invert314> should i boot into that?
[22:14] <ARAM> ifireball: that is what make me crazy
[22:14] <chickenFuego> how do I set a default user to be selected in gdm? (like in kdm)?
[22:14] <ranok> ActySofts: grub fails to install, it's a rather complex sata setup
[22:14] <ActySofts> oh
[22:14] <ARAM> ifireball: i am not sure but probebly extended
[22:14] <jimmy__> everytime i try to install tomcat5.5 from synaptic i get E: tomcat5.5: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1.....can anyone help me out please?
[22:14] <ARAM> ifireball: and in front of my 2 file show /dev/sed1 and sed 2
[22:14] <scragar> zelda`: aptonCD will make a disk of all the installed programs the easy way.
[22:15] <mitchp> Invert314: I think it may be an issue in the kernel.  Thinking you may want to reinstall if possible.  Unless there's anyone on here who knows more.  Did you say safe mode works or have you not tried it?
[22:15] <AnthroTechie> can someone tell me how to find the device name for my wireless router, like where in my system files it would be located?
[22:15] <Gabby> hello everybody
[22:15] <AnthroTechie> hi
[22:15] <ActySofts> !hi | Gabby
[22:15] <ubotu> Gabby: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:15] <zelda`> I'm not doing anything the easy way, that's why I'm getting debian
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> AnthroTechie: "iwconfig
[22:15] <ARAM> ifireball: and the partition i want to use show as /dev/sda3 and 4
[22:15] <zelda`> so I can be more 1337
[22:15] <Gabby> thank youtr
[22:15] <Invert314> mitchp, safe mode works fine
[22:15] <Gabby> wat do we do in here
[22:15] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, I installed tomacat 5.5 on feisty. It worked fine. Can you paste your output to a pastebin please?
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !topic > Gabby
[22:16] <ranok> and when I boot up using a live cd, it sees the drives, though if I chroot into the HDD, and goto /dev, there is no /sda
[22:16] <zelda`> My internet speed is 128 kb/s, so why is this download going at 90 kb/s
[22:16] <Gabby> wat?
[22:16] <ifireball> ARAM: that's ok, it has to do with the order they appear in the partition table
[22:16] <jimmy__> chickenFuego : sorry can you explain what you want me to paste in? I'm new to linux
[22:16] <Invert314> mitchp, you said: <mitchp> Invert314: after reading some more things, it appears this may be more complicated than anticipated.  Do you not have an Ubuntu CD?
[22:16] <Invert314> what things were you reading?
[22:16] <TBotNik_u> Finally recovered in the "recovery" mode.  That "greeter application crashing" error was wierd and it was trying to show better res, but kept failing.  Don't understand why I lost my sound though?  Are they in anyway related?
[22:16] <butcherbird> zelda`: because everyone between you and the server isnt giving their all to your download
[22:16] <ranok> anyone?
[22:16] <ARAM> ifireball: is it going to copy any thing on it ?
[22:16] <scragar> zelda`: you will never get your full download speed, too many factors
[22:16] <Pici> Gabby: This is the Official Ubuntu Support channl
[22:16] <Invert314> how can i better describe my problem to  ppl on the ubuntu forums?
[22:16] <butcherbird> zelda`: id write a letter
[22:16] <Jimmy_saint> can not install ATI driver, getting error message: The software source for the package xorg-driver-fglrx  is not enabled.
[22:17] <butcherbird> Invert314: screenshots are handy
[22:17] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, please copy/paste here and give me the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[22:17] <mehrab1131> is there anyway to change ubuntu 7.10 to ubuntu studio?
[22:17] <zelda`> firefox should tell you when your about to download something bigger then your remaining HDD space
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabby: If you want to know what we do it would help to read the topic...  THis is the ubuntu support room
[22:17] <fitopaisa> nas
[22:17] <mitchp> Invert314: That error message seems like it's trying to load hardware either incorrectly or unsuccessfully
[22:17] <ActySofts> Jack_sparrow: there's no !topic
[22:17] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !topic
[22:17] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[22:17] <ActySofts> hmm...
[22:17] <ranok> Zerhash: dl the .deb, and the dpkg -i it
[22:18] <ActySofts> I messaged ubotu and it doesn't tell me anything, weird...whatever
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[22:18] <mitchp> Invert314: I don't have a /org directory and I have no idea what hal is.  Is that a different desktop manager maybe?
[22:18] <ifireball> ARAM: not sure about that, been a while since I've seen the installer...
[22:18] <ActySofts> aww, still no flash plug-in? =(
[22:18] <ARAM> ifireball: what is sda for infront od the partito for example sda 1 or dev/sda 2
[22:18] <jimmy__> ChickenFuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49216/       thats what I get in the error window of Synaptic
[22:18] <Invert314> mitchp, HAL stands for Hardware Abstraction Layer
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy__: You would need to enable the correct source repo for that...
[22:18] <Invert314> that's about all i know about it lol
[22:19] <ActySofts> LjL: ?
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ActySofts: Housekeeping
[22:19] <jimmy__> Jack_sparrow: how? in synaptic somewhere?
[22:19] <ActySofts> oh
[22:19] <ifireball> ARAM: thats the name of the device in Linux, sda1 is partition #1 on scsi/usb disk A, and so forth
[22:19] <LjL-Zelazny> ActySofts: i know what i'm doing, trust me :)
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy__: yes..  what file did you want?
[22:19] <Pici> LjL-Zelazny: Famous last words...
[22:19] <mitchp> Invert314: so does it stop doing things altogether or does it keep spitting out those hal messages
[22:19] <kanton> buenas noches
[22:19] <ranok> can anyone help me?
[22:19] <ranok> PLEASE?
[22:19] <Invert314> mitchp, it stops
[22:19] <ActySofts> LjL-Zwlazny: yeah, but could you do it all on one commands, please?
[22:19] <mehrab1131> topic
[22:19] <jimmy__> Jack_sparrow: I'm not sure, I just need tomcat setup so I can start some Java dev work
[22:20] <LjL> ActySofts: no
[22:20] <ARAM> ifireball: thanks you very much for that and also
[22:20] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, you could try the following at the command line: "sudo apt-get install tomcat5.5" - It might solve the dependencies in a better way. paste the outputplz.
[22:20] <inet> If i want to setup a crontab on saturday, which weekday index shall I use?
[22:20] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy__: Sorry I dont know what tomcat is
[22:20] <inet> is it 6?
[22:20] <Phusion> inet: http://www.clickmojo.com/code/cron-tutorial.html
[22:20] <ARAM> ifireball: when i am in page which is for ready to install when i click on advance
[22:20] <Slart> inet: I think standard is start on sunday.. so I'm guessing 6?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !find tomcat
[22:20] <ubotu> Found: libtomcat5.5-java, tomcat5.5, tomcat5.5-admin, tomcat5.5-webapps
[22:21] <thyrax_afk> I added more ram to a new install of ubuntu. Is the swap automatically made bigger? does it matter?
[22:21] <MacTheMad> can anyone tell me what's wrong with these settings? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7021d3cb
[22:21] <Flannel> inet: 6, yes. 0 is sunday
[22:21] <wy> does the current version of fglrx from ATI work with suspend ?
[22:21] <Slart> inet: but surely that is explained in the man-page?
[22:21] <mehrab1131> is there anyway to upgrade gutsy to ubuntu studio?
[22:21] <ARAM> ifireball: it shows device fir boot loder installation and in below show (hd0)
[22:21] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49217/
[22:21] <mitchp> Invert314: ok well renaming the networking script in rc2.d (put a _ in front of it to prevent it from loading but so you can easily change it back) and if that works then that should help narrow it down.  It seems like the problem is iwth hardware that network manager is trying to load.
[22:21] <ARAM> ifireball: where this hd0 come from
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !info tomcat5.5
[22:21] <ubotu> tomcat5.5: Servlet and JSP engine. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.5.25-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 58 kB, installed size 368 kB
[22:21] <Flannel> mehrab1131: You don't need to "upgrade" just add the u-s repository and install the metapackage.  You should ask in #ubuntustudio
[22:21] <ARAM> ifireball: is it stand for hard drive 0?
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy__: SO you need to enable universe repo
[22:22] <mitchp> Invert314: something like S80network-manager.  Mine's different cuz I use wicd, but mine's S80wicd.
[22:22] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, no problem.. you just need to close all applications related to package management, and rerun apt-get.
[22:22] <ARAM> ifireball: if i want to tell it to install boot files on /sda3 what should i type?
[22:22] <dave81> is there a p2p program that is good to use on linux?
[22:22] <chickenFuego> "Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" is an error if another app is locking the apt cache.
[22:23] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: sorry, do i just run the command line install command u typed earlier?
[22:23] <AnthroTechie> I'm trying to make open DNS my default DNS settings for my wireless connection, so I'm following the instructions from opendns.com, but in the last part of the instructions for ubuntu my computer says that eth1 in not configured?
[22:23] <wy> Is gparted safe to be used to reside the partitions? I found I don't have enough swap space for my 2GB ram
[22:23] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, yes.
[22:23] <ifireball> ARAM: its a "grum drive name", grub has a different way of naming disks then linux (hd0) is hard drive 0
[22:23] <ifireball> ARAM: do you have options to choose from there?
[22:23] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:23] <mitchp> wy it's always dangerous to resize partitions, but in theory yes, it should be safe.  I would backup data first jic
[22:23] <IamOptimus> anybody know about to make upgrade in ubuntu version breezy 5.10
[22:23] <wy> mitchp: Thanks!
[22:24] <chickenFuego> btw jimmy__, are you using eclipse-wtp for jsp/servlets/tomcat?
[22:24] <ARAM> ifireball: it has checklist which says participate in package usage survey
[22:24] <Invert314> mitchp, i can't find the network manager script you speak of
[22:24] <Phusion> AnthroTechie: eth1 isn't your wifi adaptor I doubt
[22:24] <ARAM> ifireball: but in below of device for boot loader installition there is place to change the hd0
[22:24] <Invert314> mitchp, i am going to make post in my thread which does ls for inside rcd.2
[22:24] <ifireball> go back, there should be a screen for grub somewhere
[22:24] <mitchp> Invert314: no scripts with the word networking in it?
[22:24] <Invert314> no
[22:24] <ifireball> ARAM: go back, there should be a screen for grub somewhere
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> Phusion: alot of Intels are called eth1
[22:25] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: still errors :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49218/ I havent done any dev work on this pc and have no other IDEs etc installed
[22:25] <Slart> inet: here's what the man page says about this.. "day of week    0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names)"
[22:25] <ifireball> ARAM: you probably don't want it to install grub on (hd0)
[22:25] <Phusion> nosrednaekim: oh yeah? hrmm
[22:25] <wy> mitchp: Does this command enough for the backup? tar cf /backup.tar .
[22:25] <ARAM> ifireball: because i create .boot with the size of 150 i wan to mount boot
[22:25] <cocox> hi there i was reading articles how to install java on ubuntu and in each one says that "java-packages" must be downloaded i m not able to found them neither by apt and synaptic.... im currently using gutsy... do you know if is necesary to install it or there is other package????
[22:25] <ARAM> ifireball: sorry what is grub
[22:25] <mitchp> Invert314: sorry, its in /etc/rcS.d   S40networking
[22:25] <cocox> hi there i was reading articles how to install java on ubuntu and in each one says that "java-packages" must be downloaded i m not able to found them neither by apt and synaptic.... im currently using gutsy... do you know if is necesary to install it or there is other package????
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> !patience | cocox
[22:25] <Invert314> ah ty mitchp
[22:25] <ifireball> ARAM: it has nothing to do with /boot, which. like I said countless times, you DON'T NEED
[22:25] <zelda`> Sound Juicer won't recognize the title/other information on music CD's, it just says unknown, lol
[22:25] <zelda`> o.o
[22:25] <ubotu> cocox: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:26] <mitchp> wy I haven't used tars before, but it seems like it.  I always just backup everything manually
[22:26] <Flannel> !java | cocox
[22:26] <ubotu> cocox: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[22:26] <fluxy> Hello everyone. My once very fast ubuntu installation has become quite sluggish - probably because I didn't shut it down properly. Anyone has any ideas to get it going fast again? Thx...
[22:26] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, which ubuntu version do you have? type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list to know the name
[22:26] <EtteSB> does anyone know of a music editing/production program?
[22:26] <Invert314> mitchp, there is S40networking
[22:26] <ifireball> ARAM: grub is the boot loader that is responsible for starting up the system and loading the most basic parts from the disk
[22:26] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, feisty?
[22:26] <wy> mitchp: tar preserves permissions, dates etc
[22:26] <Slart> fluxy: chech what's running with top or htop
[22:26] <Invert314> so i put an underscore before S40networking
[22:26] <Invert314> ?
[22:27] <varsendaggr> hey i am looking for a live workspace switcher   please point me in the right direction
[22:27] <AnthroTechie> Phusion: your right. . .  but I get the same error message if I use eth0, so what do I do?
[22:27] <ARAM> ifireball: do you know why i do that because some one told me if i have boot the os is faster because of going to load boot on one partitiona dn the other on other partiton which is faster
[22:27] <mitchp> Invert314: yes
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> chickenFuego: "lsb_release" is a bit easier method
[22:27] <Phusion> AnthroTechie: well eth0 is most likely your ethernet device
[22:27] <zelda`> how many kb are in a MB?
[22:27] <fluxy> 1024
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> zelda`: 1000
[22:27] <EtteSB> zelda`: about 1024
[22:27] <zelda`> klol
[22:27] <IamOptimus> 1024 bits
[22:27] <Pici> zelda`: 1000
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> fluxy: true :D
[22:27] <IamOptimus> obivious
[22:27] <thor> varsendaggr which window manager? kde, gnome, and xfce all have one included
[22:28] <chickenFuego> lol nosrednaekim : didn't know this one. thx.
[22:28] <Invert314> mitchp, done
[22:28] <zelda`> is there an internet connection that can get you 1 MB/s
[22:28] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I'm on 7.10, but heres the output of that command anyway :D
[22:28] <jimmy__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49220/
[22:28] <bryan_w[wkr]> how many kiloBITS are in a megaBYTE?
[22:28] <zelda`> thats would be 1024 kb/s lol
[22:28] <AnthroTechie> Phusion: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[22:28] <Invert314> gimme 10 minutes to document the change in my forum thread and to reboot
[22:28] <Invert314> and then i will report back here
[22:28] <ranok> bryan_w[wkr]: 8*1028
[22:28] <mitchp> Invert314: ok.  I'm thinking network-manager will still try ot start, but hopefully I'm wrong, since there's no script for it anywhere.  Try to boot now and see what happens
[22:28] <ranok> **1024
[22:28] <ARAM> ifireball: there is no grub at all
[22:28] <thor> bryan_w[wkr] 8192 kb = 1MB
[22:28] <ifireball> ARAM: that is just silly, because its the same physical disk anyway, /boot was invented back in the time where computers had problems working with harddrives bigger then 1G, its not needed today
[22:28] <fluxy> Slart: uh thx, but what am I supposed to do :S
[22:28] <chickenFuego> ok jimmy__, the critial line in the install/config error is: "* no JDK found - please set JAVA_HOME"
[22:29] <AnthroTechie> ifdown: interface ethO not configured
[22:29] <ifireball> ARAM: it might be called "boot loader"
[22:29] <ranok> and, technically, its mibibyte
[22:29] <varsendaggr> thor i am looking for two things a workspace swicher that has more detail than the default gnome   and then a window selector that has updated images of the windows in that have been minimizded
[22:29] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I don't know how to, can I be a pain and ask?
[22:29] <ranok> **mebibyte
[22:29] <ARAM> ifireball: i love linux because of this online help
[22:29] <varsendaggr> ala enlightenment
[22:29] <zelda`> would 1024 kb/s internet be possible
[22:29] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, just do a "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk"
[22:29] <mitchp> I'm trying to setup alsa to use my bluetooth headset, but I don't know the phys. address for it.  How do I find it?
[22:30] <Slart> fluxy: run top in a terminal.. see if there are any processes that are using lots of cpu.. if you're not doing anything you shouldn't be using more than say.. 5-10%
[22:30] <EtteSB> i love linux cause of the lack of viruses and "apt-get" :3
[22:30] <ARAM> ifireball: but there isnt i have just back and next and cancel and advance which advance is for hd0
[22:30] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:30] <ublender> Is there a command to list all hardware information?
[22:30] <inSanity_909> !Xen
[22:30] <ranok> alright, I guess you guys don't know
[22:30] <erUSUL> ublender: lshw
[22:30] <butcherbird> ublender: lspci -v or sudo lshw
[22:30] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[22:30] <ublender> thx
[22:30] <ifireball> you can only choose (hd0) in advanced?
[22:31] <chickenFuego> if you installed java already, paste me the output of "ls -lha /etc/alternatives"
[22:31] <ifireball> ARAM: can you type there?
[22:31] <soho> DCC SEND startkeylogger
[22:31] <thor> varsendaggr I am familiar with the e switcher...I miss e. I use xfce now and the workspace switcher is just a little shy of e...but ahead of gnome and kde (in my opinion)
[22:31] <EtteSB> does anyone know of a music editing/production program?
[22:31] <ARAM> yes
[22:31] <ranok> EtteSB: Audacity
[22:31] <workdammit> can someone explain how i go about getting monit 4.10.1 onto ubuntu?  aptitude only gets me 4.8
[22:31] <ifireball> ARAM: w8
[22:31] <EgoElf> LjL: why did the bot ban him?
[22:31] <ARAM> ifireball: in a place which is type hd0
[22:31] <LjL> !exploit | EgoElf
[22:31] <ubotu> EgoElf: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[22:31] <ARAM> ifireball: that is the only place i can change
[22:32] <thor> workdammit you can always download the source and compile it yourself
[22:32] <EgoElf> LjL: please dont send me bot-related answers
[22:32] <EgoElf> LjL: i want an answer from YOU
[22:32] <ifireball> ARAM: w8
[22:32] <LjL> !attitude | EgoElf
[22:32] <ubotu> EgoElf: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:32] <ARAM> ifireball: what is w9?
[22:32] <EtteSB> ranok: tbh i should of thought of that one
[22:32] <tritium> EgoElf: watch your attitude
[22:32] <mitchp> anyone know how to find the physical address for my bluetooth headset?
[22:32] <ARAM> ifireball: sorry w8?
[22:32] <EgoElf> LjL: he didnt do anything, he was banned after being removed off AFTER the exploit was sent
[22:32] <workdammit> thor: right but that's too hairy for my skillset - is there a way to get aptitude to do it or do i just wait until a new package comes out?
[22:32] <fluxy> Slart: it seems pretty decent, but apps take quite some time to load (longer than before)
[22:32] <ifireball> ARAM: w8 == wait; paste "sudo fdisk -l" to pastebin plz
[22:32] <EgoElf> LjL: I'm going to repeat myself, please do not send me bot-related replies.
[22:33] <Slart> fluxy: hm.. done anything special? installed anything?
[22:33] <thor> workdammit the only two ways I know to make it work...compile it yourself or wait til the repo is updated
[22:33] <LjL> EgoElf: he didnt do anything, he was banned after being removed off AFTER the exploit was sent <--- that shows you have NOT READ THE FACTOID.
[22:33] <ARAM> ifireball: where is past bin?
[22:33] <workdammit> thor: that's what i thought, ok thanks anyway
[22:33] <ifireball> !paste | ARAM
[22:33] <ubotu> ARAM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:33] <inSanity_909> !Xen
[22:33] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[22:33] <thor> workdammit you might try getting a more recent rpm or deb from somewhere else, but there are no guarantees it will work
[22:33]  * EgoElf looks at LjL
[22:33] <fluxy> Slart: nothing out of the common, but I think it might be coz I turned power off without shutting down :(
[22:33] <LjL> EgoElf: further questions -> #ubuntu-ops
[22:34] <KiD_ChAoS> does anyone know which monitor to choose in 'screen and graphics'? i have a dell laptop and im confused
[22:34] <LjL> EgoElf: i said "further questions -> #ubuntu-ops", not "further questions -> PM"
[22:34] <ARAM> ifireball: where is paste bin you mean terminal?
[22:34] <EgoElf> LjL: my questions have not been answered here.
[22:34] <Slart> !paste | aram
[22:34] <ubotu> aram: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:34] <LjL> EgoElf: and they won't be anymore than they have.
[22:35] <EgoElf> LjL: *sigh*, they havent been answered to begin with. So that comment made exacly zero sense.
[22:35] <Slart> fluxy: I don't think shutting the computer down can break something that only would make it slower..
[22:35] <ifireball> ARAM: run the command I gave you in the terminal and paste the results to the pastebin site
[22:35] <ARAM> ubutu:what should i type in paste bin ifireball say i need to type sudo ... i get confused
[22:35] <IamOptimus> please . Who use ubuntu breezy 5.10 I want to make update in my version
[22:35] <ifireball> ARAM: then give me the link the site goves you
[22:35] <ARAM> ok
[22:35] <Slart> fluxy: anything in the syslog? less /var/log/syslog
[22:35] <ARAM> wait a sec
[22:35] <wols_> LjL: quick question: won't those imbeciles get k-lined anymore?
[22:35] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, once you have sun-java installed, change the following line in /etc/default/tomcat5.5. : "#JAVA_HOME=xxx" to "JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun" - everything should work after that (rerun  apt-get install ...)
[22:35] <KiD_ChAoS> does anyone know which monitor to choose in 'screen and graphics'? i have a dell laptop and im confused
[22:35] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:36] <LjL> wols_: they do
[22:36] <inSanity_909> anyway familiair with creating Xen guest os's on Ubuntu?
[22:36] <mrga_cro> hi i need ethernet controller  driver for dell optiplex gx270
[22:36] <mrga_cro> where can i download it
[22:36] <inSanity_909> mrga_cro try http://linux.dell.com
[22:36] <mrga_cro>  no for linux
[22:37] <KiD_ChAoS> HEY! does anyone know which monitor to choose in 'screen and graphics'? i have a dell laptop and i'm confused
[22:37] <mrga_cro> need for win
[22:37] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: thanks for all the help, I will try that in one moment when the download is done :D
[22:37] <inSanity_909> try support.dell.com :)
[22:37] <Phusion> mrga_cro: you're in the wrong channel for win32 support
[22:37] <fluxy> Slart: uh yeah, lots of stuffs in it
[22:37] <mrga_cro> i know
[22:37] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, the installation script of tomcat should actually ask for the java version you want to use..but it doesn't -so I had to set it manually.
[22:37] <mrga_cro> but here people also use win
[22:37] <Phusion> mrga_cro: well..... we get a lot of legit questions here
[22:37] <inSanity_909> http://support.dell.com is you place
[22:37] <AnthroTechie> I think that my wireless network device uses a "non-standard" name (meaning NOT eth0) so does anyone know how I would change that?
[22:37] <ARAM> ifireball: i typed that in terminal but the only thing is i am using my other labtop
[22:37] <Phusion> mrga_cro: yes, but this is not a win support channel
[22:37] <mneptok> mrga_cro: Ubuntu questions only, please
[22:37] <Slart> fluxy: ok.. anything that looks like "oh my god -error-,  I'm dying over here.. fix this now!!" ?
[22:37] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, which download??
[22:37] <mrga_cro> ok
[22:37] <ARAM> ifireball: i am not using the labtop i want to install linux on it
[22:37] <nano__> ubuntu is dying
[22:38] <inSanity_909> dying?
[22:38] <erUSUL> KiD_ChAoS: Generic LCD Panel??
[22:38] <inSanity_909> call 911! :p
[22:38] <mitchp> is there a channel for bluetooth?
[22:38] <inSanity_909> #bluetooth? :p
[22:38] <ifireball> ARAM: you can't get to the internet from the laptop you're installing on?
[22:38] <IamOptimus> :D what answer is this
[22:38] <Pici> inSanity_909: This is a support channel, try to keep the joke answers to a minimum... or zero please.
[22:38] <ARAM> ifireball: no?
[22:38] <mitchp> yea i would guess, but that could be any OS or not even a computer at all
[22:38] <ARAM> no
[22:38] <Phusion> are there repo's for the firefox 3.0 beta?
[22:38] <inSanity_909> Pici: alright :p
[22:39] <ifireball> ARAM: ok, w8
[22:39] <Slart> fluxy: anything that looks like an error at all? you could do a "grep -i error /var/log/syslog"
[22:39] <thor> Phusion no repos, but there is a download page
[22:39] <ogre> can someone explain these (short) directions to install weatherget for me?
[22:39] <Pici> inSanity_909: We have #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want random chatter
[22:39] <Phusion> thor: yeah, just a firefox-bin ?
[22:39] <ARAM> but the result is i have /dev/sda1 to sda 4
[22:39] <ogre> can someone explain these (short) directions to install weatherget for me? http://pastebin.com/m65c511bf
[22:39] <inSanity_909> I need to build a Xen image for Centos
[22:39] <thor> Phusion well...a tar.gz with the entire directory...firefox is a whole package <smile>
[22:39] <fluxy> Slart: umm i duno much. lemme see my synaptic again, maybe u cud b rite abt the app install
[22:40] <inSanity_909> and would like to build it under Ubuntu
[22:40] <inSanity_909> anyone have a little clue for me?
[22:40] <fluxy> Slart:thx
[22:40] <bogdomania> hello all..
[22:40] <Phusion> thor: yeah I just mean a binary w/ no installer, word I'll give it a try
[22:40] <ifireball> ARAM: type "sudo fdisk -l | grep "Disk /dev" | wc -l" in terminal, what number does it give you ?
[22:40] <bogdomania> i have 1 question
[22:40] <Phusion> !ask | bogdomania
[22:40] <ubotu> bogdomania: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:40] <ogre> inSanity_909,  lives in inland empire :)
[22:40] <thor> Phusion the tar.gz contains a firefox directory. I usually put that whole thing in /opt and then link firefox to /usr/bin
[22:40] <zelda`> my hdd is 14 GB so why does ubuntu think it's 3.6
[22:40] <bogdomania> im trying to install lg3d on my kb. 7.04 ..but the gdm package is not installed..
[22:40] <bogdomania> what can i do?
[22:41] <Phusion> thor: ok, sounds good, I'll give it a shot
[22:41] <inSanity_909> ogre: uh?
[22:41] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I installed the java-6-sdk, changed the JAVA_home (although it was correct anyway) and reran apt-get install tomcat5.5 here is teh output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49221/
[22:41] <zelda`> what happens if my HDD is 100% full
[22:41] <ARAM> ifireball: ARAM: type "sudo fdisk -l | grep "Disk /dev" | wc -l" in terminal, what number does it give you ?    gow should i type I
[22:41] <ogre> inSanity_909,  nm netherlands
[22:42] <ARAM> ifireball: i just use i letter now i dont know how to type I
[22:42] <IamOptimus> anybody know to resolve problem of dependencies with package in ubuntu
[22:42] <ogre> can someone explain these (short) directions to install weatherget for me? http://pastebin.com/m65c511bf
[22:42] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, JAVA_HOME was commented out in the original file, no?
[22:42] <inSanity_909> ogre: haha yeah that's right :)
[22:43] <ifireball> ARAM: "l" is lower case L (L without shift) not "I"
[22:43] <ARAM> ?
[22:43] <ifireball> ARAM: its an EL not an AI
[22:43] <ARAM> ifireball: i know that i mean this part ARAM: type  | grep "Disk /dev" | wc -l
[22:43] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: ah yes my bad :P so how can i be sure it installed ok?
[22:43] <Pici> ARAM: thats the pipe key, its shift \
[22:44] <ifireball> Pici: thx...
[22:44] <Slart> Pici: if you're using an .. american keyboard?
[22:44] <ARAM> pici thanks a lot
[22:44] <ARAM> pici it workd
[22:44] <chickenFuego> sjimmy__, congratulation: it is working now. use "sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start" and point your browser to "localhost:8180" - do you see the little cat?
[22:44] <Slart> nevermind =)
[22:44] <Pici> Slart: I assume ;)
[22:44] <IamOptimus> anybody know about support of protocol h.425 in gnomemeeting
[22:45] <Kuropon> what is the grep cmd to view all the things that are running?  ls aux | grep or something
[22:45] <AngryElf> i ran the NVIDIA installer off their website -- and it works fine until I reboot, then I have to run the thing again--something isn't getting linked or started correctly....any ideas what that may be?
[22:45] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:45] <Phusion> AngryElf: tried using the restricted drivers util?
[22:46] <Les_Caesars> is there a way I can look at the addresses of all incoming connections?
[22:46] <AngryElf> Phusion: i'm not using the ubuntu provided driver...?
[22:46] <ARAM> ifireball:  gave me 0
[22:46] <jimmy__> chickenFuego : Thank you so much! *gives you a beer* , just one last thing, where will my "public_html" or the place I put my JSPs etc be? (like /var/wwwroot/htdocs for apache)?
[22:46] <thor> Les_Caesars wireshark
[22:46] <Les_Caesars> thanks thor
[22:46] <Kuropon> what is the grep cmd to view all the things that are running?  ls aux | grep or something
[22:46] <ifireball> ARAM: are you sure you typed _exactly_ what I told you ?
[22:47] <thor> Kuropon ps ax  will show everything
[22:47] <ARAM> ifireball: yes
[22:47] <ARAM> ifireball: i type it for three time
[22:47] <ActySofts> doesn't anyone know why k3b is giving me that charset message?
[22:47] <ifireball> ARAM: does typing "sudo fdisk -l" give you anything ?
[22:47] <ARAM> yes
[22:47] <thor> Kuropon you can use 'ps ax | grep <something> to find out if 'something' is in the list
[22:47] <MacTheMad> could someone tell me how I can open terminal as root not my user name?
[22:48] <ARAM> ifireball: all details of partiton
[22:48] <ActySofts> MacTheMad: sudo i
[22:48] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, the place is: "/usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/", but I really recommend to use an IDE (eg. eclispe with wtp plugin) to automatically generate the config files of tomcat..
[22:48] <ActySofts> *sudo -i
[22:48] <ifireball> ARAM: how many lines in there begin with "Disk /dev" ?
[22:48] <ifireball> manual grep....
[22:48] <MacTheMad> actysofts: ty
[22:48] <ARAM> ifireball: what do ou mean ?
[22:48] <AnthroTechie> where do I find the device name of my wireless router?
[22:48] <Kuropon> thor, Im trying to kill a window that is stuck three
[22:49] <Kuropon> thor, Appearance Preferences window wont close
[22:49] <thor> Kuropon if you know the name of the program put that in the grep
[22:49] <thor> Kuropon not sure what that will be called
[22:49] <Kuropon> thor, didn't work
[22:49] <ifireball> ok, nevermind, just type "sudo grub" and tell me when it gives you "grub>"
[22:49] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I've been advised to not use an IDE so I learn how it "really" comes together, is it relatively easy to configure eclipse to tomcat? (I've got some basic experience of eclipse)
[22:49] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy.
[22:49] <ifireball> ARAM: ok, nevermind, just type "sudo grub" and tell me when it gives you "grub>"
[22:49] <wy> Strange. I got the message that "Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary." when I use fdisk. But my partition says: /dev/sda3            6001        9000    24097500   83  Linux
[22:50] <ubuntuisloved> Merry Christmas to All Ubuntu Users ! :)
[22:50] <chickenFuego> btw, there is an incompatibility between tomcat5.5. in ubuntu and eclipse-wtp. You need to do a "sudo ln -s /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ /usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/" -- otherwise, eclipse-wtp is not seeing a "proper" tomcat.
[22:50] <Malachi> What's a good Python IDE that uses GTK? IDLE makes my eyes bleed.
[22:50] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, want a free gift?
[22:50] <ARAM> ifireball: it give me
[22:50] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: sure
[22:50] <khaotik> can anyone help with installing/enabling nvidia driver
[22:50] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, I would say: no it is not that easy and logical to set-up. But with a good tutorial you need 10min!
[22:50] <Malachi> khaotik: What's the problem?
[22:51] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, ok. pick something on which you want to learn about ;-)
[22:51] <ifireball> Malachi: vim :P
[22:51] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: C++
[22:51] <Malachi> khaotik: Try going to System > Administration > Restriced Drivers Manager and see if it's there.
[22:51] <Malachi> ifireball: GTK. :P
[22:51] <khaotik> its there and its enabled
[22:51] <ARAM> ifireball: do you know what i want to do i try to unmount  my ntfs but it ignore and say it is not possible to eject ..
[22:51] <ifireball> Malachi: gvim :P
[22:51] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: or whatever i can use to work with to build apps in ubuntu
[22:51] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, the trick with the eclipse wtp plugin is that eclipse can stop/start/restart your tomcat, republish files after editing etc. It is great!
[22:51] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I just install eclipse from synaptic? and btw, how do I send PMs here? :P
[22:51] <Malachi> ifireball: Thanks :D
[22:52] <Malachi> khaotik: It should be enabled then.
[22:52] <Ttech> Hi, I have 2 questions, my first question , is  what is the percentage of each partition on a drive?
[22:52] <khaotik> cant change my screen resolution to 1200x
[22:52] <Malachi> kahotik: Ah. I see.
[22:52] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, here is the wininig tutorial ;) http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-eclipse-tomcat/index.html
[22:52] <khaotik> it only has option for 800x600
[22:53] <Ttech> khaotik: I have had the same problem, exept its my resoution keeps resetting to an overly large 1900 by ****
[22:53] <ubuntuisloved> Got a quick question for you all is it possible to revert after a update is done using update manager?
[22:53] <Ttech> khaotik: did you setup the display drivers correctly?
[22:53] <Malachi> kahotik: Well, let's see if the drivers are actually installed.
[22:53] <ifireball> ARAM: no, but I don't think it matters for anything, have you got "grub>" yet?
[22:53] <ARAM> yes
[22:53] <chickenFuego> jimmy__,  but you need the "sudo ln -s /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ /usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps/" on ubuntu for this tutorial to work.
[22:53] <khaotik> dont know. my friend installed and had everything workin lovely
[22:53] <Malachi> khaotik: Open a terminal. Type this: glxinfo | grep direct
[22:53] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, see you in 10 min? ;)
[22:53] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: well ?
[22:53] <Malachi> khaotik: It should say yes.
[22:53] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, well, you can use python if you like, here is a good tut, http://www.swaroopch.com/byteofpython/ ... and the real free gift pertaining to that: feel free to contact me for anything, anotequaltob at gmail dot com
[22:54] <adelie> Whenever I go to quit, th computer seems to freeze ofr about 1 minute where I can't do anything but move the mouse before the logout / shutdown window appears. I have always having to alt-f2 gksudo init 0 to shutdown
[22:54] <mirak> I have this command in my /etc/rc.local, hdparm -d1 -X udma5 -m16 /dev/hda , but I realised my drive was in udma4 . I don't understand why it's not to the max of my drive automatically. Is there a way to kind of reset that ?
[22:54] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: sweet but is there anything thats not script driven for gui development in ubuntu?
[22:54] <ifireball> ARAM: ok, type "root (" and press the tab key, it shuld say something like "Possible disks are hd0 hd1" tell me what it says exactly
[22:54] <khaotik> yea it says yes
[22:55] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, i'm sorry? hang on, i need to reread your phrasing...
[22:55] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: Ok thanks for the guide, I've made the "ln" link and now setting up eclipse, are you sticking around? bound to get stuck somewhere :P
[22:55] <Malachi> khaotik: Good. Okay, do this:
[22:55] <Malachi> khaotik: Type Alt+F2 and type in "gksudo gedit" without the quotes.
[22:55] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, yes I am here. This story is fresh for me. I did it two weeks ago.
[22:55] <ARAM> it says possibe comman are :root rootnoverify
[22:55] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: i use php but i wanted something like C or C++ to use in ubuntu to write apps?
[22:56] <adelie> help :( Can anyone tell me why my computer freezes for a minute when I click 'quit'?
[22:56] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, you say "is there anything thats not script driven (...)". why do you think scripts are bad? Python is a fully featured programming language
[22:56] <khaotik> okay
[22:56] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, for that you can get
[22:56] <ARAM> ifireball: it says possibe comman are :root rootnoverify
[22:56] <ifireball> ARAM: dod you type the "(" ?
[22:56] <kbrooks> !info build-essential
[22:56] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[22:56] <ARAM> ifireball: no
[22:56] <chickenFuego> oooh jimmy__ do you have the "tomcat5.5-webapps" package installed already?? (type "sudo dpkg -l | grep tomcat" to see what you have.)
[22:56] <ifireball> ARAM: the "(" is important...
[22:56] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:56] <ubuntuisloved> well i wanted protection from modifying source
[22:56] <ARAM> ifireball: could you tell me exctly how to tp it ?
[22:57] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: is python OOP ?
[22:57] <Ttech> what is the crecommended partition sizes for each part of Ubuntu?
[22:57] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, it uses various paradigms, but at its core it is essentially OOP
[22:57] <Malachi> khaotik: File > Open. Look on the left hand side, find "File System." Double-click that, then browse to the etc folder.
[22:58] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: they its time i start learning it
[22:58] <ifireball> ARAM: from where you are now, type the spacebar and then "(" and then the tab key
[22:58] <Milotin> evenin'
[22:58] <Malachi> khaotik: (Or just type /etc/ in the Location bar.)
[22:58] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: do you recommend an app or have an app i can view to see some of code of a current gui in ubuntu?
[22:58] <Milotin> any Ubuntu 7.10 masters around ?
[22:58] <wy> What does " cylinder boundary " mean?
[22:58] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, i gave you a link to a tutorial. there's #python. and i gave you my e-mail. that's your free gift ;-)
[22:58] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[22:58] <ARAM> ifireball: you mean type:root "("
[22:58] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: this room is full of those
[22:58] <ARAM> ifireball: ?
[22:58] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, um, an app... hmm..
[22:58] <orkun> hi, is there a way to completely stop gnome-panel from starting, next time i boot ubuntu?
[22:59] <ubuntuisloved> sweet thanks
[22:59] <Milotin> well i will need one of them in private :P
[22:59] <ifireball> ARAM: without the quotes
[22:59] <ifireball> ARAM: just (
[22:59] <orkun> without an ugly way of starting it and autokilling it via script?
[22:59] <Milotin> it`s kindah hard to explain in the main
[22:59] <ARAM> ok
[22:59] <wy> My first partition starts at 1, end 3500. My second partition starts at 3501, ends at 6000. Is that wrong?
[22:59] <adelie> Ok, different issue, My monitor blinks (like it is changing screen resolutions) at rendom intervals, but more often the higher the resolution. I get this in both windows and ubuntu. Any ideas?
[22:59] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: yes I think, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49227/
[22:59] <Milotin> my i pm you ubuntuisloved
[22:59] <Milotin> ?
[22:59] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, i'm unsure, altho you can find packages that depend on the python package and look in there for the source code
[22:59] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: throw out the question lets all see it
[22:59] <ARAM> ifireball:  i have typed root ( and it says error 21:selected disk does not exist
[23:00] <khaotik> dont have file>open. maybe places?  using 7.10 gutsy
[23:00] <ActySofts> help?
[23:00] <ubuntuisloved> kbrooks: cool i sent u a test email
[23:00] <Milotin> well it`s a networking problem
[23:00] <MacTheMad> following instructions for internet connection sharing I'm supposed to reconfigure ipmasq to start after networking has been started but after typing in dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq I'm asked "Should PPP connections recompute the firewall?" Should they? How do I answer & why?
[23:00] <ere4si> orkun: you can right click and delete the panels
[23:00] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: shoot the question
[23:00] <ifireball> ARAM: it doesn't say anything else?
[23:00] <Malachi> khaotik: If you typed "gksudo gedit" after you pressed Alt+F2, you should have a text-editor open.
[23:00] <ARAM> no
[23:00] <Milotin> i`ve got a DHCP connection ... i got the reply from everything i ping but i can`t connect to anywhere
[23:01] <orkun> ere4si: not the last one :(
[23:01] <ifireball> ARAM: from the way it looks, if you're gonna install now, it'll fail
[23:01] <orkun> i can only get it to shrink down to a button
[23:01] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: so are you able to get into your router
[23:01] <kbrooks> ubuntuisloved, i have some hints over here. i will e-mail you the command in a second
[23:01] <ARAM> ifireball: do you know what i do
[23:01] <kazol> Is anyone here familiar with metacity?
[23:01] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: also you need to verify its using correct DNS
[23:02] <Milotin> get into router ?
[23:02] <ARAM> ifireball: i am in safe mode and i try to install create 2 partiton and install and lets see what error it give me
[23:02] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: do command ifconfig
[23:02] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: pm me
[23:02] <Milotin> ok
[23:02] <ifireball> ARAM: reboot then try what we just did again, see if it gives you better results
[23:03] <ARAM> ifireball: i will do but first let me try install see what result i get
[23:03] <ifireball> ARAM: do you know how many disks do you have connected to that machine?
[23:03] <ARAM> ifireball: i just take out my labtop disk
[23:03] <ifireball> ARAM: it will probably ruin what ever you got on the machine
[23:03] <steph_> hi everybody
[23:03] <ARAM> ifireball: and just have external one
[23:03] <stefano> hi steph_
[23:03] <ARAM> ifireball: nothing else just 1
[23:03] <steph_> :)
[23:03] <kazol> How do I install a theme in metacity?
[23:04] <ere4si> orkun: this seems the best solution - http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594729
[23:04] <ifireball> ARAM: there is no disk inside the laptop?
[23:04] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin:????
[23:04] <ARAM> ifireball: no because i thougt it could damage the boot and just takle it out and just use external one
[23:04] <steph_> stefano: Do i have a twin brother?
[23:04] <khaotik> alright have an open text box
[23:04] <Milotin> ubuntuisloved
[23:05] <Milotin> i messaged you
[23:05] <orkun> thanks found it 2 seconds ago in sessions
[23:05] <Milotin> are you sure you`re not silenced?
[23:05] <stefano> kazol, go to the appearence menu in system - preferences, select the theme options (i dont know the exact names because i'm running a localised version) and add your theme (i suppose you've downloaded a tar.gz file)
[23:05] <Malachi> khaotik: File > Open. Browse to the /etc/ directory. (You can just type in /etc where it says location)
[23:05] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[23:05] <Montego> How do I verify a plug in i installed fro Firefox is actually installed?
[23:05] <stefano> steph_, i dont know :>
[23:05] <stefano> Montego, go to about:plugins
[23:05] <ubuntuisloved> Milotin: one sec
[23:06] <Milotin> just join channel milotin
[23:06] <Milotin> it`s easier :)
[23:06] <stefano> Montego, i mean type about:plugins in the url bar
[23:06] <ifireball> ARAM: did you take it out before or after you loaded up the live-CD ?
[23:06] <ARAM> ifireball: could it cause any probelm "
[23:06] <ARAM> ifireball: before
[23:06] <Montego> ahhh I see ty
[23:06] <stefano> yw
[23:06] <ifireball> ARAM: oh hack... try telling the installer to install on (hd0) it may just work
[23:06] <kazol> stefano: Thanks, I didn't know the default were metacity themes.
[23:07] <Ttech> what is the crecommended partition sizes for each part of Ubuntu?
[23:07] <skullhead> dos anyone know what to do if the sound is off in video's on youtube?
[23:07] <ARAM> ifireball: it has been already configed to install on hd0
[23:07] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[23:07] <stefano> kazol, metacity is just the window decoratior, there are gtk-themes as well for window content and controls
[23:07] <ifireball> ARAM: yes, ok
[23:07] <ata4ix> anybody knows how to add the daemon to autoboot?
[23:07] <ata4ix> rc0.d etc
[23:07] <ata4ix> have a command?
[23:08] <Pici> ata4ix: update-rc.d
[23:08] <stefano> ata4ix, in ubuntu i think it's called just init.d but i could be wrong
[23:08] <Pici> ata4ix: check its manpage
[23:08] <khaotik> okay its open
[23:08] <ARAM> ifireball: oh when i click install the box come with that details and have goback and contunue button
[23:08] <ata4ix> i have eggdrop and i want that system starts them automaticly
[23:08] <ata4ix> how i can do this?
[23:09] <stefano> ata4ix, does it have to be started as a deamon?
[23:09] <Ttech> ata4ix: I beleve you use the session thing in the Admistation menu, and put the command you want to run
[23:09] <ARAM> ifireball: the installer need to commit changes to partiton table .but can not do so because the partiton on the following mount point could not be mounted :
[23:09] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: got eclipse up, trying the tutorial you linked me, got as far as selecting the callisto details but when i select the ones required it greys out the "Next" button, error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49230/
[23:09] <Ttech> That auto starts it at least
[23:09] <ata4ix> yes
[23:09] <LordMetroid> Sorry for being a newb, trying to install JOGL and need to find out where java.library.path is located. How do I find out?
[23:09] <ata4ix> as daemon
[23:09] <vincenz> How do I write cds in ubuntu?
[23:09] <wy> I need help for the partition table
[23:09]  * vincenz wants to burn an iso
[23:09] <Pici> !burning | vincenz
[23:09] <ubotu> vincenz: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[23:09] <Ttech> :P
[23:09] <skullhead> my audio if off from my video on youtube with firefox and all other browers what can i do? and no its not lagg
[23:09] <vincenz> !thankyou | Pici
[23:09] <ubotu> Pici: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[23:10] <Pici> ;)
[23:10] <stefano> skullhead, do you mean it doesnt play audio at all?
[23:10] <steph_> Ok, I'll try to explain my problem (which I don't understand that much). I have 2 network intefaces: one goes to the web, the other to the router. If I ping the router, it says "Destination Host Unreachable". I'm on the same subnet. When I try to admin the router from a M$, everything is well (conclusion: the router works). Do I have to setup something like firewall, conf file or something else ? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
[23:10] <khaotik> now which file do i open
[23:10] <ata4ix> there is present a command in console to put the eggdrop or other module as daemon?
[23:10] <Malachi> khaotik: xorg.conf
[23:10] <skullhead> no i mean the audios always about 2-3 secs ahead of the video
[23:10] <ARAM> ifireball: /media/external... it is my hard drive and partiton which is for ntfs and then inbelow say that please close any application using these mount point which i  dont have any application open and
[23:10] <kazol> stefano: Are you familiar with emerald?
[23:10] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, typical dependency crap with eclipse plugins.. you might have a checkbox "select dependencies" or so in your eclipse dialog.
[23:10] <Ders> My Firefox flash player is showing jumbled flash images, when loading games specifically.  I installed Adobe and the other one, then uninstalled Adobe, same result
[23:11] <khaotik> the one thats in the X11 folder
[23:11] <ARAM> ifireball: at the end say would you like the installer to try to unmount ths
[23:11] <ata4ix> or i just can create symlink in /etc/init.d/ ?
[23:11] <khaotik> ??
[23:11] <stefano> kazol, a bit, but i don't recomment it, metacity works just fine and there is  tons of themes as well, i suppose you already know gnome-look.org?
[23:11] <ARAM> ifireball: to unumount these partiton again
[23:11] <Pici> !boot | ata4ix
[23:11] <ifireball> ARAM: do you have the terminal open?
[23:11] <ata4ix> symlink to program wich i want to start automatically?
[23:11] <ARAM> ifireball: yes
[23:11] <ata4ix> !boot
[23:11] <ifireball> ARAM: close it
[23:11] <ata4ix> nothing
[23:11]  * Pici boots the bot
[23:11] <Deets> hello
[23:11] <ubotu> ata4ix: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:11] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, the button "select required" on the right I think.
[23:11] <ifireball> ARAM: then tell it to try again
[23:11] <ARAM> ifireball: done
[23:11] <skullhead> stefano: no i mean the audios always about 2-3 secs ahead of the video
[23:12] <ata4ix> thanks!
[23:12] <Pici> ata4ix: check the message from ubotu on how to properly add things to bootup
[23:12] <Ttech> anyone with my questions ? :)
[23:12] <ata4ix> Pici, gracias!
[23:12] <erisco> I am having troubles mounting a floppy. I have a floppy drive... and a floppy disk...
[23:12] <jimmy__> chickenFuego : problem existed between chair and keyboard :P
[23:12] <stefano> skullhead, do you have a fast machine or is it rather old? and do you have desktop-effects enabled?
[23:12] <Ders> I'll take my question to Mozilla
[23:12] <kazol> stefano: Yeah, but I like a particular emerald theme because it has more window controls. Why don't you recommend it? Stability?
[23:12] <ARAM> ifireball: oh then it goes to partiton disk windows which means all of the configration has gone
[23:12] <erisco> but I don't think ubuntu is recognizing it... there is no mount point
[23:12] <Deets> when I write a WPA-PSK key in ubuntu it connects well, but after a reboot it doesn't connect, I have to write the WPA Personal key again and it works, but after a reboot it doesn't... and so on...
[23:12] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, lol.
[23:12] <Deets> How can I mantain the WPA Personal key?
[23:13] <ARAM> ifireball: i dont know in some way linux use these two partiton i mean ntfs one and know them as sda 1 and 2
[23:13] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[23:13] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: have you also set up mySQL yourself?
[23:13] <skullhead> stefano: o i know my computer can run youtube videos its got 2.0ghz but ya i have deskyop effects enebled and i have a nvidia graphic card
[23:13] <ARAM> ifireball: if i can unmount them then i think this problem will be solved
[23:13] <stefano> kazol, the product is discontinued, there are no further updates and that means that it's not stable in combination with conpiz-fusion. but if you want to use it anyways, see the ubuntu wiki, there should be an artice on how to install it. you could also try to find a similar theme for metacity
[23:13] <KiD_ChAoS> what is GDM ?
[23:14] <SyntaxError55> KiD_ChAoS: GNOME Display Manager
[23:14] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, yes, but this is a easier piece of cake as compared to tomcat/eclipse-wtp!
[23:14] <erisco> !floppy
[23:14] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[23:14] <ata4ix> how i can add my cdrom iso with ubuntu to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:14] <kazol> stefano: Ok, thanks for the help.
[23:14] <ifireball> if you type "mount" in terminal do you see those partitions there?
[23:14] <stefano> skullhead, try to download the adobe flash plugin from adobe and install it manually. there should also be a howto on that in the ubuntu wiki
[23:14] <ifireball> ARAM: if you type "mount" in terminal do you see those partitions there?
[23:14] <KiD_ChAoS> GDM and gnome desktop same thing
[23:14] <skullhead> stefano: ok thx
[23:15] <stefano> skullhead, hope that helps
[23:15] <ifireball> KiD_ChAoS: not really
[23:15] <ARAM> ifireball: yes
[23:15] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, the coolest with mysql is that if you install phpmyadmin and then go to http://localhost/, you can just do everything with some clicks!
[23:15] <Pici> stefano: emerald is discontinued??
[23:15] <ARAM> ifireball: and it shows that system is currently using them ?
[23:15] <stefano> thought so, isnt it?
[23:15] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[23:15] <erisco> ubuntu isn't recognizing my floppy drive. help!
[23:15] <Pici> stefano: I dont know, I'm asking you.
[23:15] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: sounds like a plan to me ;))
[23:16] <Deets> when I write a WPA Personal key in ubuntu it connects well, but after a reboot it doesn't connect, I have to write the WPA Personal key again and it works, but after a reboot it doesn't... and so on...  what can I do to make Ubuntu  keep the correct key between boots?
[23:16] <stefano> Pici, i think it is, at least in ubuntu. allthou other distributions may use it, the updates don't get ported back in to the ubuntu repositories
[23:16] <khaotik> do i just switch that line to 1280x1024
[23:16] <ifireball> ARAM: yes, type "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[23:16] <khaotik> ????
[23:16] <KiD_ChAoS> ifireball, what screen type are you using? Like if you were to go to 'screen and graphics' what does it say
[23:16] <Pici> stefano: No updates get ported back to Ubuntu repositories. Thats why we have releases.
[23:16] <omaremad> hi
[23:17] <ActySofts> help?
[23:17] <omaremad> my mouse freezes when i hold a keyboard button > 5 secs
[23:17] <ARAM> ifireball: thanks a lot man t workd
[23:17] <omaremad> its useful for blender and fps games
[23:17] <ifireball> KiD_ChAoS: i meant the GDM/gnome desktop thing, nothing about screens
[23:17] <ARAM> ifireball: wait see what do i get
[23:17] <Malachi> khaotik: No, you don't.
[23:17] <khaotik> what i do???
[23:17] <stefano> Pici, right. and that also enables the developers to choose metacity and exclude emerald. at least thats what i think.
[23:18] <KiD_ChAoS> ok ifireball but this pertained to that
[23:18] <compengi_> what's the best reliable application to work with new ipod nano
[23:18] <wy> I need help for the partition table. Isn't cylinder 3500 and 3501 consequtive cylinders?
[23:18] <khaotik> it still says i have a generic video card
[23:18] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, seems like you will need to now where to put the java jdbc drivers for mysql soon ;)
[23:18] <Slart> !ipod | compengi_
[23:18] <ubotu> compengi_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[23:18] <stefano> compengi_, i think rythmbox, but i don't know if your ipod is already supported.
[23:18] <Malachi> khaotik: Find where it says Section "Screen", and Modes under that.
[23:19] <ActySofts> K3b complains about the charset being ANSI_X3.4-1968, saying that data projects could get corrupted. How can I fix it? I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), with Gnome (obviously).
[23:19] <KiD_ChAoS> ifireball, i tried to connect a my 42 inch lcd to my dell laptop running ubuntu. played with the screen resolutions and got my resolution on my laptop really screwed up
[23:19] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: yes, my colleagues "shudder" at the mention of JDBC, is it that bad?
[23:19] <Malachi> khaotik: ADD, not replace, your resolution. Put it in quotes.
[23:19] <quaal> anyone use avant
[23:19] <Malachi> khaotik: Don't save though.
[23:19] <tacone> I don't remember where to configure module (modprobes) to be loaded at startup
[23:19] <Malachi> quaal: I do.
[23:19] <KiD_ChAoS> ifireball, now im trying to correct it but i don't know what screen type i had designated in 'screens and graphics' to bring everything back to normal
[23:19] <quaal> Malachi, the new version 2.0 ?
[23:19] <khaotik> should i add all the dif resolutions i want to be able to switch to??
[23:19] <ActySofts> !ipv6> me
[23:19] <Malachi> quaal: I run SVN.
[23:20] <quaal> 0.1.2 then
[23:20] <Malachi> quaal: But I have no idea of the current.
[23:20] <ARAM> ifireball: this time it worke but give me another error which mean that system couldent create another partiton
[23:20] <ifireball> KiD_ChAoS: ah... this can be fixed, but Im way to tired to deal wit that kind of problem right now, sorry...
[23:20] <ARAM> and faild and come back to partiton page again
[23:20] <stefano> khaotik, if you don't want to edit the xorg.conf manually you can use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", that gives you a kind of "wizard"
[23:20] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, I had only good experiences with jdbc, and with ubuntu.
[23:20] <Malachi> quaal: The launchpad page says .2
[23:21] <KiD_ChAoS> ifireball, simply tell me what screentype you are using
[23:21] <compengi_> Slart, The Third Generation iPod Nano does NOT currently work out of the box with the latest version of Ubuntu. =/
[23:21] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: sounds good :D Ok, eclipse updated OK and restarted, now what?
[23:21] <KiD_ChAoS> im sure they all operate the same lcds and what not
[23:21] <Slart> compengi_: oh?... not amarok either?
[23:22] <kazol> stefano: I still can't find a metacity theme equivelent to http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/69942-1.jpg
[23:22] <khaotik> now what??
[23:22] <chickenFuego> now, continue the tutorial until you get your first hello world.. you *might* have problems to find the tomcat from eclipse-wtp...
[23:22] <skullhead> Dos any one know what would cause dellays in youtube video besides computer or internet lagg?????
[23:22] <ifireball> KiD_ChAoS: it'll be irrelevant to you since I don't expect that window to show anything useful on my system, I write my xorg.conf manually, also I got old CRTs here, nothing that would work anywhere near the way a laptop screen does
[23:22] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: Ok, one sec...
[23:22] <KiD_ChAoS> is anyone using a dell laptop in here?, if so can they tell me what type of screen they have designated in 'screens and graphics'
[23:23] <inciner9> What would be the best virtual machine to use if I wanted graphics acceleration and I had KVM support?
[23:23] <compengi_> Slart, didn't try it
[23:23] <Malachi> khaotik: Go to System > Administration > Screens and Graphics
[23:23] <KiD_ChAoS> ifireball, ok thanx ayway
[23:23] <stefano> kazol, well, you could use emerald then. type apt-cache search emerald and see what packages you might need
[23:23] <quaal> Malachi, yea i'm using 0.2.0
[23:23] <stefano> kazol, are you familiar with installing and searching packages in the terminal?
[23:23] <quaal> i'm trying to turn the text off
[23:23] <Slart> compengi_: I think this list is pretty up to date http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#Supported_Devices
[23:24] <ifireball> inciner9: that is no VM I know of that can to GFX acceleration
[23:24] <ARAM> ifireball: i thinks it is going to install every thiing would befine but my problem is that
[23:24] <kazol> stefano: Of course, but I can't load emerald.
[23:24] <quaal> i set all the text opacity to 0 but its still showing black text
[23:24] <khaotik> what do i do with the gedit i have open? save it?
[23:24] <kazol> stefano: emerald --replace & doesn't work.
[23:24] <inciner9> ifireball: Well, I know VMWare Workstation can, but I'm not sure about any others...
[23:24] <Malachi> khaotik: Not yet. We may not have needed to change it.
[23:24] <stefano> kazol, one second pls
[23:24] <ARAM> ifireball: i have tried to create 3 partiton 1 for swap 1 for root and 1 for home
[23:24] <gherbil> DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[23:24] <Malachi> quaal: I'm not sure. :\
[23:25] <ifireball> inciner9: impossible, they emulate a very basic VESA card, no real acceleration there
[23:25] <khaotik> okay i got screen and graphics open
[23:25] <Malachi> khaotik: Go to the graphics tab. What is your video card?
[23:25] <lonran> hi
[23:25] <JonaTh> Where can I find drivers for my soundcard?
[23:25] <ARAM> ifireball: but it say fail but when i do it like 1 for swap and 1 for root then it work like now and going to install but if i chose 3 it say formation partion ... faild
[23:25] <lonran> whats the best and easiest way to have videoconference between lin and win?
[23:25] <ARAM> ifireball: what is the reason for that
[23:25] <ARAM> ?
[23:26] <Phusion> lonran: probably Skype
[23:26] <khaotik> it says " graphics card (VESA driver generic)
[23:26] <stefano> kazol, sorry i can't find anything, you might want to search the ubuntu forums, if you don't find anything start a new thread, hope that helps
[23:26] <ARAM> ifireball: are u there ?
[23:26] <khaotik> i dont think its picking my card up
[23:26] <bofh80> hi people, does anyone else use or wish to use or know of any projects that will say grab desktop images off the web from rss or whatever, and change the desktop. ie a proper wallpaper / desktop manager?
[23:26] <Phusion> khaotik: what kind of video card do you have?
[23:26] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: it wont accept my tomcat installation directory, its /etc/tomcat5.5 isnt it?
[23:26] <Malachi> khaotik: What graphics card do you have in your computer?
[23:27] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, no, I think it is: /usr/share/tomcat5.5
[23:27] <ifireball> ARAM: please, I'm too tired, if its your first install DO A NORMAL ONE, you're trying too complicated stuff
[23:27] <khaotik> i think its a nvidia 7150
[23:27] <Malachi> khaotik: If you click where it says VESA, you'll have the option to select your card by model.
[23:27] <ifireball> ARAM: install on a normal empty INTERNAL disk
[23:27] <ARAM> ifireball: ok thanks sorry i make you feel tired
[23:28] <KiD_ChAoS> any suggestion what screen i should choose in screens and graphics? i have an intel 945 graphcs card in a dell laptop
[23:28] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, and it fails at this point if you are missing the soft-link trick.
[23:28] <ARAM> ifireball: it was so useful thanks a lot
[23:28] <skullhead> would desktop_effects being enabled cause youtube to be off?
[23:28] <ifireball> ARAM: its not you, its 2am here...
[23:28] <kazol> stefano: I also have a problem installing a GTK 2.x theme-it doesn't show up in the window.
[23:28] <ARAM> ifireball: where do you live?
[23:28] <SpookyET> What causes fat titlebars?
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> skullhead: I would think not.
[23:28] <KiD_ChAoS> any suggestion what screen i should choose in screens and graphics? i have an intel 945 graphcs card in a dell laptop
[23:28] <erisco> how can I make ubuntu recognize my floppy drive?
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> skullhead: You need flash in order to view youtube vidoes.
[23:28] <ifireball> ARAM: GMT+2 :P
[23:29] <ARAM> ifireball: any way thanks a lot i will try to make it work if any problem i get back to you later on
[23:29] <khaotik> its not showing i have  a graphics card. it just says what driver i have.
[23:29] <Malachi> KiD_ChAos: Find Dell under Model. Choose the laptop option.
[23:29] <Deets> when I write a WPA Personal key in ubuntu it connects well, but after a reboot it doesn't connect, I have to write the WPA Personal key again and it works, but after a reboot it doesn't... and so on...  what can I do to make Ubuntu  keep the correct key between boots?
[23:29] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49231/
[23:29] <KiD_ChAoS> oh ok Malachi
[23:29] <Malachi> khaotik: You have to click the existing driver.
[23:29] <stefano> kazol, the window only shows complete theme packs, go to "customise" or something alike and set up the window content theme there
[23:29] <skullhead> odd-rationale: ya i have flash manulkay installed it but my audio in youtube videos is 3 secs ahead and sounds a little messed up
[23:29] <ARAM> ifireball: if you need any hel with windows xp or 2003 let me know i think i can help you but if you use them :D
[23:30] <kazol> stefano: Thanks again, it works.
[23:30] <ARAM> ifireball: thanks a lot bye for now
[23:30] <mitchp> omg bluetooth is INFURIATING
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> skullhead: And does it work when you disable desktop effects?
[23:31] <khaotik> i got ya
[23:31] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, ok here goes
[23:31] <vincenz> Hello, I've debootstrapped onto an external hd, I've burned a livecd, I've swapped my hds, and I've booted from the cd.  How do I now finalize the install for the new hd?  Apparently I need to do something with grub
[23:31] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, is it an eclipse crash???!?!?
[23:31] <khaotik> i have a dv6500. googling to see which graphics card i got
[23:31] <kbrooks> UBUNTUISLOVED, i replied.
[23:31] <stefano> vincenz, doesnt the installer ask you if you want to write grup to the master boot record (mbr)?
[23:31] <wols_> kbrooks: lspci will tell you
[23:32] <vincenz> stefano: what installer?
[23:32] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: yes, after i clicked "finish" on teh create dynamic web project
[23:32] <vincenz> stefano: it's a livecd
[23:32] <kbrooks> wols_, you hilighted the wrong person
[23:32] <skullhead> Odd-rationale: nope lol
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> vincenz: If your external hard drive is the only drive attached to your computer, then grub will automatically install in the correct place.
[23:32] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, but was is ok just before? tomcat was found??
[23:32] <vincenz> Odd-rationale: when I was installing, it was not, since I was using my old hd to do the install
[23:32] <stefano> vincenz, right but i suppose you've clicked the install icon on the desktop, normally it should ask you do do so
[23:33] <Beererde> hi. i installed epiphany with apt-get, but i have no binary on my system
[23:33] <Beererde> what is wrong?
[23:33] <vincenz> stefano: doing that now, I hope it won't repartition or re-mkfs?  I've installed -all- the relevant packages already, including gnome
[23:33] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, hmm. heres what happened. i tried to connecta 42 inch lcd screen to my laptop running ubuntu. i played around with the resolution and now it won't go back to normal on my laptop
[23:33] <vincenz> stefano: already made user accounts as well...
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> skullhead: I didn't think so...
[23:33] <J-E-L-L-0> im so used to RH based linux.. whats the command i would use to restart the ftp server?  sefvice doesn't work lol
[23:34] <skullhead> any one know where to get a drivers for a creative soundblaster live audigy sound card?????
[23:34] <wols_> J-E-L-L-0: /etc/init.d/<daemon> restart for example
[23:34] <vincenz> stefano: I want to skip all the steps
[23:34] <stefano> Beererde, epiphany is a builder dash clone, if you want to install the epiphany web browser the package is named epiphany-browser
[23:34] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, i can't get a resolution above 1280 X 800 and even so when i do choose 1280 X800 i think it's lying because it doesn't look it
[23:34] <wols_> sjoerd: emu10k1. already shipped with ubuntu
[23:34] <Beererde> stefano: aah ok i see :) thanks
[23:34] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: strange, eclipse closed down but was able to re-open and open the .project
[23:34] <stefano> vincenz, if you install packages on the live system it doesnt make any difference to the hard drive, you have to take the installer
[23:35] <bofh80> does anyone know of any projects that will grab images off the web from rss or whatever, and change the desktop. ie a proper wallpaper / desktop manager?
[23:35] <vincenz> stefano: it tells me t has to reformat
[23:35] <Beererde> it works now :)
[23:35] <ifireball> J-E-L-L-0: "apt-get remove --purge <ftp-server>" :P now seriously FTP is not a good idea...
[23:35] <vincenz> "Filesystems used b the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted...
[23:35] <vincenz> I did all that work while I had the harddrive externally mounted through chroot
[23:35] <stefano> vincenz, well it has to install itself _somewhere_ so it has to repartition the hard drive
[23:35] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, you might report a bug to eclipse, ask the expert at #eclipse to know were to do it.
[23:35] <bofh80> ifireball, why do you say that about ftp?
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> bofh80: There's something that gets pictures from flickr.
[23:36] <vincenz> stefano: I already installed the system through chroot, I just want to setup the bootloader
[23:36] <bofh80> Odd-rationale, cool. i'll check it out
[23:36] <stefano> vincenz, why do you make it so hard for yourself?
[23:36] <vincenz> stefano: I followed advice by someone from here...
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> bofh80: I'll get the link...
[23:36] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: can i go back onto the project settings dialog? missed a setting...
[23:36] <Malachi> Kid_CHaos: Hm...
[23:36] <notonnetwork> quit
[23:36] <stefano> vincenz, is there data on this particular hard drive you have to preserve?
[23:36] <vincenz> yes
[23:36] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, keep on going. As I said the setup is not that easy. But when you are done, this environment is highly productive!
[23:36] <vincenz> I already moved over my /home dir
[23:37] <vincenz> made my user account already
[23:37] <vincenz> installed some stuff in /etc
[23:37] <Malachi> Kid_Chaos: What happens when you autodetec the monitor?
[23:37] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, i got an E1505 inspirion, wish i could go back like two hours
[23:37] <ifireball> bofh80: clear text passwords for once, and complex control/data connections that make firewall admins cry, you would really get better results with http nowdays
[23:37] <khaotik>   	NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M (UMA)    thats what hp site say i have
[23:37]  * vincenz just wants to setup the grub-bootloader with the livecd
[23:37] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, try to delete/recreate a wtp project I would say.
[23:37] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi i don't think it detects it right lemme try again
[23:37] <Flannel> !grub | vincenz
[23:37] <ubotu> vincenz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:37] <Flannel> vincenz: first link there
[23:37] <kbrooks> bofh80, did anyone help with the ftp question that u asked yet
[23:37] <Malachi> khaotik: Well, select that from the Model list.
[23:38] <Malachi> khaotik: (Choose GeForce 7)
[23:38] <jacob> how do i connect to a wireless access point in the terminal?
[23:38] <Ttech> Hi,  should I do extended or primary for the swap partiotion?
[23:38] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, it see's a plug n' play with a resolution of 640 x 480 only
[23:38] <wols_> jacob: install wireless-tools and configure your /etc/network/interfaces
[23:38] <stefano> vincenz, okay, the installer should offer you to rezise a partition, so you could resize the partition and make a new one in the empty space, but as always, when reformatting, back up anything on that hard drive for it might be broken and has to be reformatted afterwards. this chroot thing won't work unless you have already repartitioned the hard drive to have a linux partiton
[23:38] <bofh80> ifireball, sure, you'd want to base your webhosting updates with a http front end, sure you'd base it on firefox on internet explorer, ftp is a slim line excellent protocol. http is extremely bloated. seriously. get real. technically you don't know where your coming from, ftp is easy enough to secure. http is a dog
[23:38] <khaotik> good looking people. yall rock. gots to reboot
[23:39] <kbrooks> bofh80, ummm
[23:39] <stefano> Ttech, primary usually, if you don't have a lot of partitions on that drive
[23:39] <kbrooks> bofh80, may i kindly pm you?
[23:39] <Stormx2> Ttech: Depends.
[23:39] <Malachi> khaotik: Yay!
[23:39] <vincenz> stefano: I had my old hd in my laptop.  I set up my partitions with fdsisk, I did mkfs, I chrooted, I installed the system, I movd over my iles.  Then I opened my computer and swappedh ds.  All I want to do is finalize the grub in the bootloader.  I do not wish to reformat
[23:39] <bofh80> kbrooks, sure
[23:39] <Ttech> Stormx2:  Ah, care to elaborate?
[23:39] <Les_Caesars> how do I change how my computer identifies itself on the internet? I want Microsoft.com to think I'm Windows XP
[23:39] <Malachi> kid_chaos: I assume you already tried Laptop: 1280x800? And clicked Widescreen if need be?
[23:39] <ifireball> bofh80: there is nothing you can do against the clear text thingie, and there are some really simple and light HTTP implementations there
[23:40] <KiD_ChAoS> let me try Malachi
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> bofh80: Here's the link:
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> http://www.webilder.org/
[23:40] <stefano> vincenz, oh sorry, sure wait a second.
[23:40] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, brb
[23:40] <Stormx2> Ttech, heh, sorry. Extended partitions are needed if you have over a certain number of partitions, I can't remember the exact number. ie x primary partitions or (x-1) primary partitions and a logical. Where the swap partition resides won't matter though
[23:41] <stefano> vincenz, the command to do so would be "grub-install /dev/hda1" (replace hda1 with the appropreate device of course)
[23:41] <wols_> Stormx2: max number of primaries is 4
[23:41] <skullhead> dos anyone know where to get the drivers for soundblaster cards??
[23:41] <wols_> so after 3 partitions you make an extended one
[23:41] <Stormx2> wols_, :)
[23:41] <wols_> skullhead: I told you
[23:41] <BUDD}{A> does anyone here use a psp with ubuntu
[23:41] <vincenz> stefano: after chcrooting?
[23:41] <Stormx2> BUDD}{A: paint shop pro?
[23:42] <Stormx2> Oh
[23:42] <BUDD}{A> playstation portable
[23:42] <Stormx2> PlayStation portable
[23:42] <wols_> skullhead: emu10k2
[23:42] <Stormx2> yeah.
[23:42] <CentHOGG> yo, happy holidays
[23:42] <UBUNTUISLOVED> happy holidays CENT
[23:42] <Les_Caesars> how do I make my computer pretend to be Windows on the internet?
[23:42] <skullhead> thx
[23:42] <jacob> wols_ how would i use the terminal with wireless-tools to access an access point step by step
[23:42] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, ya know i think what i got now is good enouph
[23:42] <stefano> yes, from your new system. if you want to be safe and all, you can download the "super-grub-disk", burn it to a cd and boot from it, this will allow you to start your system from the disk without touching the mbr. but it should usually work
[23:42] <Malachi> kid_chaos: You sure?
[23:42] <wols_> jacob: /usr/share/doc/wirelss-doc
[23:42] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I have no projects to add to the server... no idea what I'm doing here..
[23:43] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, yeah, i mean i don't know what else to try
[23:43] <Slart> Les_Caesars: pretend in what way? you could always tell people you use windows.. does that count? =)
[23:43] <CentHOGG> i remember this tip page for ubuntu that was really nice, would anybody have that link
[23:43] <BUDD}{A> i am haveing alot of trouble finding a converter to convert video so i can play on the playstation portable
[23:43] <CentHOGG> i'm looking to network to windows with linux
[23:43] <Slart> Les_Caesars: and why would you want to pretend that you're using windows?
[23:43] <UBUNTUISLOVED> CentHOGG: use samba
[23:43] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, you see when i plugged in my 42 inch LCD it resized my desktop to put it on the screen
[23:44] <generalsnus> Ihave downloaded a flash game (.swf) , how can i play this game in ubuntu?
[23:44] <Malachi> kid_chaos: You could ask someone else who knows more than me. :|
[23:44] <stefano> Les_Caesars, you have to add some option to your firefox' about:config. ask your friend (google) what this option is
[23:44] <Slart> generalsnus: flash is currently broken.. see topic
[23:44] <_Sebulba_> Les_Caesars, u can change ur firefox profile to do that
[23:44] <ompaul> !samba | CentHOGG
[23:44] <ubotu> CentHOGG: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[23:44] <alvaro442> hi to everyone
[23:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> hi alvaro442
[23:44] <CentHOGG> yeah, would I need to config samba or just samba-client?
[23:44] <stefano> Slart, some sites are still windows-only :(
[23:44] <Les_Caesars> hm. Is there a lower-level way to do that? I was meaning to use wget
[23:44] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, i tried to get my screen resolution huge because the 42 should handle it but no go
[23:44] <_Sebulba_> the latest linux reality podcast had a listeners tip on how to do it
[23:44] <ompaul> CentHOGG, samba for server side stuff
[23:44] <chickenFuego> create new project will create all the settings for an empty jsp/serlvets tomcat. Add an helloworld example from the tutorial to check if it is working.
[23:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> stefano: use ieforlinux
[23:45] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, create new project will create all the settings for an empty jsp/serlvets tomcat. Add an helloworld example from the tutorial to check if it is working.
[23:45] <KiD_ChAoS> i couldn't find the brand in the monitor model list in ubuntu
[23:45] <Malachi> kid_chaos: If you want, you could open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to reset everything.
[23:45] <stefano> UBUNTUISLOVED, i didnt ask the question, Les_Caesars did
[23:45] <vincenz> stefano: anything else I need to do?
[23:45] <generalsnus> Slart: i have no problem playing flash games in firefox, is there no standalone players? firefox wont open swf it seems
[23:45] <Slart> stefano: ah.. so he wants firefox to pretend it's IE on a windows machine.. I thought he wanted to emulate tcp packet timings and such
[23:45] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Les_Caesars: try ie4linux
[23:45] <prakriti> how can I change my repository mirror?
[23:46] <Slart> generalsnus: you can download a standalone flash 9 player from adobe.... or at least you used to be able to
[23:46] <_Sebulba_> pragma_,  software sources
[23:46] <prakriti> I still havn't got the amarok update and the lockups really bug me
[23:46] <KiD_ChAoS> Malachi, that would reset the screen to out-of-box default?
[23:46] <UBUNTUISLOVED> prakriti: look under /etc/apt/source*
[23:46] <Rebel52> yo there
[23:46] <Malachi> Kid_Chaos: Yes.
[23:46] <stefano> vincenz, i dont think so but i'm not absolutely sure. just give it a try :-) you can always chroot back to the system if something goes wrong
[23:46] <vincenz> stefano: right :)
[23:46] <Malachi> Slart: If you just want Firefox to pretend, you can get the User Agent Switcher extention.
[23:46] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: I can't create a new project cos of that error/exiting eclipse, can I give u an RDP so you can see for yourself?
[23:46] <stefano> hope it works
[23:46] <generalsnus> was never able to play any swf games with the one from adobe
[23:46] <Les_Caesars> UBUNTUISLOVED: not helping me. I'm on dialup and it fails roughly every 100KB. I was hoping on getting the files another way, and then using ies4linux. There's an iceberg below the tip--I just want to download ie from Microsoft.com
[23:46] <Rebel52> how do you patch a kernel module?
[23:46] <Pici> prakriti: System>Administration>Software Sources
[23:46] <JonaTh> !update
[23:46] <Slart> Malachi: wasn't me asking.. tell Les_Caesars
[23:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:46] <stefano> Les_Caesars, <Malachi> Slart: If you just want Firefox to pretend, you can get the User Agent Switcher extention.
[23:46] <Rebel52> or get my kernel source and rebuild it with the patch
[23:46] <chickenFuego> jimmy__, RDP?
[23:47] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: remote desktop / ssh
[23:47] <_Sebulba_> some sites refuse to work unless it detects ur using M$ or Apple because they have some deal with M$ or Apple
[23:47] <Les_Caesars> thanks stefano
[23:47] <chickenFuego> oh yes jimmy__ .
[23:47] <stefano> you're welcom
[23:47] <stefano> e
[23:47] <chickenFuego> lets say just ssh.
[23:47] <_Sebulba_> its a PITA but sometimes ya just gotta pretend to be what they want
[23:47] <Slart> _Sebulba_: seems like those sites don't deserve the traffic =/
[23:47] <stefano> !ssh
[23:47] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:47] <Slart> _Sebulba_: but sure.. you can't change the world..
[23:47] <jimmy__> chickenFuego: can you MSN me for details/login? mine is jimmy@teamstag.co.uk
[23:48] <_Sebulba_> I agree, but sometimes there is no choice
[23:48] <chickenFuego> fine.
[23:48] <kazol> I extracted cedega while working in the desktop, and two directories named "share" and "bin" appeared-could I delete these?
[23:48] <GHOST> yo there
[23:48] <Slart> kazol: if they are on the desktop they should be fairly safe to delete.. I don't know how happy cedega will be though
[23:49] <MacTheMad> Could someone please tell me when setting up internet connection sharing ipmasq "Should PPP connections recompute the firewall?"
[23:49] <Eyemean> hi i wanted to try kdenlive video editing software but it is for KDE and i am using gnome, will it work ok in gnome?
[23:50] <stefano> MacTheMad, doesnt sound wrong to me. you can check your ports afterwards with nmap
[23:50] <stefano> :>
[23:50] <GHOST> it will dude
[23:50] <_Sebulba_> Eyemean, I dont see why it wouldnt, it will probably need extra libraries from kde, but these will be installed automatically
[23:50] <MacTheMad> stefano: ok thanks I'll try it
[23:51] <naxa> i have a hp notebook pavilion dv6000 and my ubuntu keeps _freezing_, mouse stops and sometimes everything continues after a few minutes and sometimes dont.
[23:51] <_Sebulba_> u may find some icons have blacked out icons but they should function ok
[23:51] <stefano> MacTheMad, for checking ports you can use (example!) sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.188
[23:51] <Eyemean> _sebulba_ cheers, sorry its just that im new to linux and not sure of what can and cant be done, i dont want to mess up ubuntu yet, lol
[23:51] <GHOST> reinstall it
[23:51] <_Sebulba_> they just look a bit like cut outs
[23:51] <Lin1> i'm over my neck with the forum
[23:51] <GHOST> lol
[23:51] <_Sebulba_> np, if it dont work, just unisntall it
[23:51] <GHOST> me too
[23:51] <stefano> Eyemean, well
[23:51] <Lin1> can anyone help me with one stupid problem
[23:51] <Lin1> ?
[23:51] <_Sebulba_> try kino too, it's a gnome package
[23:51] <GHOST> entropy here
[23:52] <stefano> Eyemean, if you want to use kde software in gnome you have to install all the bloated kde packages. but it works, with slight downsides :-)
[23:52] <vincenz> stefano: I think I'm missing an mbr
[23:52] <khaotik> okay i have no idea what im doing wrong here. now i cant get a resolution over 600x400
[23:52] <GHOST> how can a use a irc ?
[23:52] <Lin1> my problem is internet shareing from Ubuntu to Win XP
[23:52] <stefano> vincenz, explain that :>
[23:52] <khaotik> sorry 640x480
[23:52] <vincenz> stefano: I reboot without cd, I get no bootprompt, just blank screen
[23:52] <JonaTh> !alsa
[23:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:52] <Pici> GHOST: This is a support channel, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:53] <GHOST> oOK DUDE
[23:53] <stefano> vincenz, so it is a usb hard drive?
[23:53] <MacTheMad> stefano: I'm just trying to get dhcp working
[23:53] <Eyemean> stefano, ahaaa, i dont like downsides, hahaha, I managed to get cinrerlla working but still messing around with that, thought i would try others aswell
[23:53] <Lin1> need help with Internet sharing
[23:53] <Lin1> please
[23:53] <_Sebulba_> I'd agree with stefano there, try to sticj where possible to gtk+ apps with gnome and qt apps with kde.....sometimes it's not always possible, just a rule of thumb if all else is equal
[23:54] <stefano> Eyemean, kino is pretty good though, you might want to ignore that you have to install kdelibs to use it
[23:54] <_Sebulba_> it'll help avoid bloat
[23:54] <chickenFuego> oh jimmy__ , an easy trick to recover from a crash from eclipse might be to: 1) delete de .eclipse directory in your home and 2) delete the workspace directory in your home. You don t loose anything at this point, as you just installed it? or do you have already code in ther?
[23:54] <vincenz> stefano: No.  So... I had my old hd with ubuntu.  I bought a new hd.  I put this new hd in a usb-case, partitioned it, formatted it, debootstrapped it, chrooted to it, aptitide installed the packages I want, moved over my data files.  Then I took the hd in the usb-case and put it in my laptop and booted with a livecd
[23:54] <SpookyET> My Ubuntu Desktop looks so good.
[23:54] <Eyemean> stefano, do u mean wen it install kino to deny installing kdelibs?
[23:55] <MacTheMad> Linl: Yeah, me too... the clear, concise instructions I found at http://ubuntuforums.org are anything but
[23:55] <Lin1> FROM 1097 PEOPLE, NO ONE CAN HELP MY WITH MY PROBLEM????????????
[23:55] <stefano> Eyemean, no you have to install them. that's the downside.
[23:55] <Pici> !caps | Lin1
[23:55] <ubotu> Lin1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:55] <Eyemean> stefano, oh right, ok, guess i will try messing around with cinerella then, lol
[23:56] <_Sebulba_> Eyemean, anything your package manager tells u it needs when u try to install a package, say YES to
[23:56] <stefano> vincenz, uh, i'm not sure if i understand it but, why don't you just put the new drive in your computer and install ubuntu normally?
[23:56] <JonaTh> I'm having soundproblems in 7.10
[23:56] <_Sebulba_> these are dependencies
[23:56] <Eyemean> _sebulba_sure thing, thanks
[23:56] <MacTheMad> fed up... try again tomorrow... later guys
[23:56] <Lin1> none from the topics at ubunntuforums.org help
[23:56] <stefano> Eyemean, cinerella is better then kino but more complicated.
[23:56] <JonaTh> E: Package alsa-utils has no installation candidate
[23:56] <JonaTh> E: Package alsa-utils has no installation candidate
[23:56] <vincenz> Does anyone else know how to make a hd where I installed ubuntu on bootable?
[23:56] <_Sebulba_> linux is excellent at keeping track of what u already have and what u need
[23:56] <NotSoGutsy> is there any program I can use to identify what codec was used to create audio files ?
[23:56] <JonaTh> @ sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[23:56] <Slart> Lin1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370  .. next time try googling before shouting at people
[23:57] <stefano> vincenz, super grub disk should help you there
[23:57] <stefano> it has the ability to write the mbr built in
[23:57] <Slart> Lin1: that one didn't work?
[23:57] <Eyemean> stefano, yes i noticed its complicated, but heard it one of the best, so i went round in circles to get it working in ubuntu with alot  of peoples help
[23:57] <vincenz> stefano: that's aanother cd?
[23:57] <ultraz> anyone on thinkpad here?
[23:57] <stefano> vincenz, it's a bootable cd for all your master bood record and grub needs :-)
[23:57] <seqizz> hi, now i'm on a live cd, i must flash the bios, i'cant access my hdd (actually my sata option has crashed at bios) what can i do?
[23:58] <Lin1> no
[23:58] <Neff> Hi people, I need your help, I'm trying to install an integrated webcam in my DELL SP2208WFP according to lsusb it's an OmniVision Tecnologies Inc. component. I tried to install the webcam by compiling the ov51x-jpeg driver (following this howto: http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Main_Page) but it doesn't work... can you please help me?
[23:58] <Ubunto> hi
[23:59] <Slart> Neff: doesn't work? any error messages?
[23:59] <Ubunto> can any one please help me how can i install  my graphic card
[23:59] <stefano> seqizz, i don't think that's possible. but if you need to reset your bios, theres normally a battery at your mainboard, if you remove it, power up the system, power down again put it back in and start the system again your bios should be set to factory settings
[23:59] <RD579> I have a problem with Pidgin. When I type my chat bounces up and down but if I continued to an additional line it does not bounce. It works fine but the bouncing is terribly distrcting and driving me bonkers.
[23:59] <Slart> Ubunto: nvidia or ati? or something else?
[23:59] <Ubunto> nvidia
[23:59] <Ubunto> slart:nvidia