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Riddellhi all10:58
* Jucato waves hello10:58
Hobbseeheya Riddell10:58
Riddellwe'll start in a few minutes with membership then other stuff10:58
smarterhello10:58
Riddellbut first, one of the items is wallpapers, and I have a selection we can review from the oxygen people10:58
Riddellbut it's not to be given out to the public10:58
Riddellso if you want to have a look at them please /msg me and I'll give you the URL10:58
* Hobbsee would10:58
* mhb would11:00
Riddellnobody else?11:00
jpatrickrouzic isn't around -> skip11:00
* jpatrick would11:00
Hobbseehow pretty11:00
Jucatoare there pink ponies? :)11:00
RiddellGood Morning Friends11:00
HobbseeRiddell: are these in widescreen too?11:00
Riddellwelcome to the Kubuntu Christmas party11:01
Hobbseeyay, party!11:01
RiddellHobbsee: dunno11:01
Riddellwearing of paper hats from crackers is compulsary11:01
sigma_lol11:01
Riddellwho do we have from the council?11:01
Riddellme, Hobbsee, mhb11:01
RiddellLure?11:02
mhbnot me, I'm afraid :o)11:02
LureRiddell: just joined11:02
Jucatoum... I have to excuse myself... family stuff... sorry to drop out so suddenly. I'll try to catch up later11:02
Riddellnot mhb... yet :)11:02
jpatrickI'll write the minutes if you'd like11:02
Riddellnixternal?11:02
Jucatowe seem to be missing the minutes for the past 2 meetings btw...11:02
Jucatoanyway... gone... sorry again...11:02
Riddellagenda at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings11:03
Riddellfirst up is membership11:03
Riddellno rouzic?11:03
Riddelldo we have smarter?11:03
smarterRiddell: yes :)11:03
Riddellwelcome along smarter, could you introduce yourself?11:03
smarterokay11:03
* Hobbsee curses rotten parents11:04
smarterI'm a 14 yo, French guy, I'm admin of the french ubuntu forum and a KDE-lover :) Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuillaumeMartres11:04
Hobbseei'm going to need to belatedly vote on this.  *sigh*11:04
Hobbseememberships first would be great.11:04
Riddellsmarter: how long have you been involved?11:05
Luresmarter: what is the area that you think your contributions are the stronger?11:05
Riddellis there anyone here to support smarter?11:07
smarterRiddell: I first used Linux 2,5 years ago I became a moderator on the french forum 1 year ago, admin six months ago and medibuntu packager since yesterday ;)11:07
smarterLure: For the moment, bug reporting, but I hope to make cool patches for Kubuntu/KDE in the future11:07
smarterRiddell: I asked some french MOTU but it looks like they forgot to wake up ;)11:08
Riddellsmarter: why are the packages of amarok and kaffeine different in medibuntu?11:08
smarterRiddell: amarok is compiled with --enable-mp4v2 and kaffeine with lame support11:09
smarterbut they're based on Kubuntu packages11:09
smarterand the description clearly state that they are not official Ubuntu packages11:09
Luresmarter: and afair, they only change build-depends11:09
smarterLure: yes, kaffeine build-deps on liblame-dev and amarok on libmp4v2-dev11:10
Luresmarter: how long are you doing bug triage and are you focusing on particular areas?11:10
smarterLure: I started bug triaging recently and I focus mostly on kde, 'cause it's easier for me to try to make patches11:11
Luresmarter: kde in general or are some packages of particular interest?11:11
smarterLure: I started with kdebase11:12
smarterand kdelibs11:12
Riddellwe always need more of that being done11:12
nixternalYAY \O/11:12
Luresmarter: you are a brave man!11:12
nixternalI can't believe I woke up11:12
Lure;-)11:12
Riddellmorning nixternal, any questions for smarter before we vote?11:12
smarterthanks Lure ;)11:12
Luresmarter: we really need bug triagers11:12
nixternalerr11:12
nixternalwho is the smarter? :)11:12
Riddellnixternal: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GuillaumeMartres11:13
nixternalso many new people :)11:13
nixternalw/o a doubt his future is definitely bright, considered he was 12 when he started11:14
Jucatothat's a good sign right? (trying to sneak in a line or two before dinner)11:14
Jucato:)11:14
Riddelllets vote11:14
Riddell+1 from me for adding to the francophone cabal and doing the slog of bug triage11:15
RiddellLure, nixternal, Hobbsee?11:15
nixternalthat is pretty impressive to me11:15
LureI would prefer a bit longer contribution, but based on couple of bugs, comments I have just reviewed I can give a +111:15
nixternal+1 - simply amazed at just how accomplished one is at 1411:15
Riddellcongratulations smarter11:16
smarterhuzzah! \o/11:16
* Lure remebers jpatrick being that age when I joined - and he helped me getting into packaging ;-)11:16
Riddellany other memberships?11:16
nixternalcongrats11:16
Hobbseegrrr, parents.11:16
smarterThat's a cool christmas present ;)11:16
* Hobbsee quickly reads11:16
jpatrickLure: ;)11:16
nixternalcan I go back to bed :)11:16
nixternalhehe11:16
jpatrickrouzic's asleep/missing11:16
Luresmarter: welcome and rock on!11:17
yuriycongrats smarter11:17
Hobbsee+1 from me11:17
jpatrickcongrats smarter!11:17
Lutinsmarter: congrats :)11:17
smarterthanks everyone :)11:17
Riddellso next is the big item for today, the non LTS change11:17
nixternalWHAT? NON-LTS? You are kidding right?11:17
nixternalp11:18
Riddelldiscussion of the way that was decided should be left to the canonical members of the tech board, keybuk says he's happy to answer questions11:18
Hobbseeoh, i thoguht there was a background decision first :P11:18
nixternaloh ya, the tongue and no eyes11:18
LureRiddell: he is not around11:18
Riddellno, you'd have to catch him at some other time11:18
nixternalLure: do you blame him after such a big decision? :)11:18
smarterdoes that mean that 8.10 will be a LTS?11:19
HobbseeRiddell: so presumably the question is abotu where to focus our attention - kde3, kde4.11:19
mhbI would suggest deciding on the further steps we take in order to help Kubuntu the most11:19
Riddellsmarter: no11:19
Hobbseesmarter: no11:19
LureRiddell: I know that Keybuk wears several hats: so in which authority was decision made? Canonical or TB?11:19
RiddellLure: LTS is Canonical's decision11:19
smarter9.04 then?11:20
LureRiddell: and I suspect dapper is first and last LTS for Kubuntu, right?11:20
Riddellsmarter: I can't see us having an LTS out of step with ubuntu11:20
rouzichi akk11:20
rouzicall*11:20
RiddellLure: I hope not, I don't think so11:20
Lurerouzic: will cover your membership later, ok?11:20
nixternalRiddell: by chance, is there any reasoning that can be publically displayed for this decision?11:20
Hobbseenixternal: probably a better question for keybuk11:20
rouziclure: :(11:21
Riddellnixternal: as Hobbsee says11:21
nixternalroger that11:21
LureRiddell: but we will break LTS upgrade chaing, therefore LTS ->LTS upgrade will not be possible anymore11:21
HobbseeLure: apparently there are no support contracts anyway11:21
LureRiddell: unless dapper Kubuntu will be supported until next LTS which I doungt11:21
Luredounbt even11:21
Luredoubt even ;-)11:21
Hobbseeand i'd imagine that we'll vaguely support dapper --> hardy, with metapackages11:21
Hobbseebut not test overly much11:21
nixternalHobbsee: there are, I know a few people and places here with the support contracts11:21
Hobbsee(as in, default installs to hardy)11:22
Hobbseenixternal: kubuntu dapper?11:22
nixternalactually no11:22
nixternalno LTS support contracts :)11:22
LureHobbsee: problem is that new users cannot install something today that is LTS supported and be able to upgrade to LTS in future11:22
Hobbseenixternal: right, yes, those are the ones that we care about for the purposes of this discussion11:22
mhbwell I think we're settled on that we will do 2 Kubuntu CDs, one with KDE3 as default desktop and the other one would be a KDE4-KDE3 mix, I guess.11:22
FlannelSo, we only care about paying customers now?11:22
nixternalunfortunately so11:23
HobbseeLure: this is true, but that debate is for the tb, not general kubuntu.11:23
LureFlannel: I hope not ;-)11:23
Riddellunfortunatly making a KDE 4 CD is blocked on the seeds being rejigged so we don't have a clear idea of what packages would be on it11:23
Riddellbut as mhb we should have both a KDE 3 CD and KDE 4 CD, and the question is the status of each11:23
HobbseeLure: it would, of course, be nice to have a reasonably working upgrade, if a community member wanted to work on it somewhat11:23
yuriyFlannel: well LTS = long term support = paying customers. i don't see why anybody else would care about the LTS moniker11:23
FlannelLure: You'll still be able to install Hardy and upgrade to the next LTS, you just may have to do the upgrade as a GUI-less upgrade, and then convert back to Kubuntu11:23
nixternalI don't see why 3.5 release couldn't be LTS11:23
RiddellHobbsee: mvo says he's making sure upgrade works, but the Kubuntu upgrade tool will be missing11:24
Hobbseenixternal: because canonical has decided.11:24
HobbseeRiddell: right11:24
Lureyuriy: it is message to the marked and such decision does not help making kubuntu viable alternative11:24
Flannelyuriy: There are plenty of people, myself included, that are still on Dapper and not paying customers, because we prefer stability.11:24
HobbseeRiddell: probably safer, seeing as how it usually does11:24
Lureyuriy: and I am the first one to agree that Canonical can drop it11:24
HobbseeFlannel: then i'd suggest helping out checking that it works, to upgrade it.11:24
Lureyuriy: just that they should do well though decision first and discuss other aspects with community11:24
Hobbseeregardless, we're bikeshedding, and wasting valuable time11:25
mhbindeed11:25
Riddellof course if someone else or a company wants to get the upgrader running and tested in it's meny different combinations that's entirely welcome, although slow and boring work11:25
Riddellso, I have a proposal11:25
Riddell...11:25
nixternaldrum roll...11:26
cheguevara:P11:26
HobbseeRiddell: shoot11:26
Riddellwe keep the KDE 3 CD as the commercially supported (18 months) and based on the kubuntu-desktop seed, and the one that 7.10 upgrades to...11:26
Riddellbut we big up the KDE 4 CD as being the interesting and exciting one, we put it on release.u.c, have it on shipit and generally make it the focus of our messaging11:26
nixternal+111:27
mhb+1 from me11:27
HobbseeRiddell: if we're allowed to do that, +25.11:27
cheguevara+111:27
Riddellit would be community supported, so 6 months only11:27
jpatrick+111:27
mhbthe only problematic part is whether they'll allow us to do that11:27
Riddellbut it would be the main Kubuntu CD for non-commercial users11:27
HobbseeRiddell: that's reasonable enough.  it's not like montreal would know kde4 stuff anyway - nor that they'd be writing patches11:28
HobbseeRiddell: what do we support upgrades from after hardy, then?11:28
nixternalHobbsee: its not like montreal know's 3.5 stuff either11:28
* Lure_ dropped of11:28
Hobbseenixternal: true, but they probably know a bit more than that11:28
* Hobbsee grabs a pastebin11:29
RiddellLure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49274/11:29
* Riddell wins11:29
Lure_Riddell: thanks11:29
mhbHobbsee: I'd assume Hardy+1 would have one KDE again, which would both CDs upgrade to11:29
Hobbseeawww11:29
* Hobbsee blames au connection11:29
Riddellyes, hardy+1 should be KDE 411:29
Riddellsupported upgrade path would be from KDE 3 (which is the tricky bit)11:29
Hobbseeso the kde3 --> kde4 would work11:29
HobbseeRiddell: not if you really want kde3,4 to be coinstallable, though11:30
Riddellupgrading from KDE 4 should be fine too since that's comparitavly easy11:30
Hobbseeif you can just put a global replaces on it...11:30
Hobbseeer, don't want them to coinstall11:30
Lure_Riddell: so hardy+1 will still have kde3 in, just not default?11:30
HobbseeLure_: commercial customers would get it by deafult11:31
mhbRiddell: have you talked with Steve Langasek or anyone else from the Release Team about your plan?11:31
Hobbseemhb: he's one of them, i'm another.11:31
RiddellLure_: that I'm unsure, how soon we clear kde 3 from the archives, but it's pretty much a question for hardy+1 not now11:31
Lure_Riddell: agreed11:31
mhbHobbsee: I know, but Canonical can block it again, as they do the shipping ...11:31
* Hobbsee can't see why you'd keep kde3 around11:31
mhbHobbsee: I wouldn't like that to happen11:31
Hobbseemhb: i doubt they would.  they haven't blocked MOTU so far11:32
Riddellmhb: we can have whatever we like on shipit really, just send them the ISO and tell the marketing person what to put on the cover text11:32
Hobbseeso i doubt they would this either11:32
RiddelliRon, vorian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49274/11:32
Lure_Hobbsee: because all apps would not have kde4 port yet?11:33
HobbseeLure_: i thought you could run kde3-based stuff in kde4.11:33
Lure_Hobbsee: right, but we need libs, base...11:33
yuriyhence why would you get rid of it?11:33
nixternalyou can11:33
HobbseeLure_: right11:33
Riddellapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49274/11:33
yuriyi would think kde3 stuff would get demoted to universe though11:33
mhbLure_: it may not fit on the CD, we don't know yet.11:34
apacheloggerhi11:34
txwikinger+1 for the paste11:34
mhbLure_: but I guess the sane KDE4 CD would have a KDE4 desktop, some KDE4 apps, and some KDE3 apps (amarok, kaffeine, digikam and so on)11:34
Riddellmhb: that it would11:34
vorianRiddell, big +1 :)11:34
Hobbseemhb: amarok, etc, has been ported.11:34
Riddellopenoffice, dunno about11:34
apachelogger+111:35
RiddellHobbsee: not in time for hardy11:35
Lure_Riddell: I would go with koffice beta11:35
HobbseeRiddell: oh, true, yes11:35
jpatrickcouldn't we use koffice?11:35
apacheloggerHobbsee: amarok2 is unusable11:35
Hobbseedoes it support windows file formats reasonably, though?11:35
Riddellwe could go with koffice but I'd want to ask the koffice devels if they're happy with that11:35
yuriyyou don't think amarok2 and digikam will be ready in time for hardy?11:35
apacheloggerstill, since amarok1.4 only depends on kdelibs that's not a biggy11:35
Riddellanyway, this isn't a good time to discuss the exact apps11:35
yuriyand kword2 seems quite usable already11:36
Riddellwe need to get the KDE 4 CDs started first, then argue over the finer details11:36
apacheloggeragreed11:36
nixternalditto11:36
Riddellanything else to discusson that, or can we move on?11:36
mhbRiddell: so when can we expect it to be unblocked?11:36
jpatrickRiddell: rouzic's around11:36
Riddellmhb: cjwatson says it's high on his priority, so hopefully soon in the new year11:36
Lure_Riddell: koffice is expected to be released in April, so beta should be good enough for preview11:36
Lure_http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KOffice2/Schedule11:36
rouzicit's here11:37
* yuriy keeps thinking hardy is 8.06 not 8.04 because of dapper11:37
nixternalheh11:37
Riddellrouzic: could you introduce yourself?11:37
yuriyas in, 2 extra months to get apps in11:37
* Riddell reads https://wiki.kubuntu.org/rouzic11:37
rouzicriddell: I have been the admin of kubuntu-es.org for the last two years. And now run the xubuntu-es.org and edubuntu-es.org websites11:38
Riddellrouzic: I notice kubuntu-es.org is still broken, what's happening there?11:39
jpatrickRiddell: the guys with the DNS don't want to hand it over to us11:39
Riddelljpatrick: hrm11:40
Riddellanything I can do to help with that?11:40
jpatrickhe erased his user account (because of lack of activity), and now he doesn't exist for them11:40
Riddellrouzic: so what's on kubuntu-es.org what it is working?11:40
jpatrickthe site can be accessed from the xubuntu-es and edubuntu-es.org since they both use the same DB11:41
jpatricks/both/all three11:42
Riddelland which is rouzic here? https://edge.launchpad.net/~rouzic :)11:42
Riddellanyone here to support rouzic?  jpatrick presumably?11:42
nixternalthe one with long hair :)11:42
apacheloggerlol11:42
rouzicriddell: I have to right a fax to the DNS guys11:43
rouzicriddell: i'm the boy, left on the photo11:43
Lure_rouzic: any other community member that you worked with?11:43
apacheloggerbetter visit him personally ;-)11:43
jpatrickRiddell: well he has been working on the site for two years :)11:43
jpatrick+1 from me11:43
Riddellrouzic: what is your relationship with ubuntu-es.org ?11:44
Lure_rouzic: are that also es support channels on irc?11:44
apacheloggerrouzic: any future plans for your contribution to kubuntu?11:44
rouzicriddell: contact with the administrador's ubuntu-es every day11:44
Lure_rouzic: that is the other person on the picture? ;-)11:45
rouzicapachelogger: Translations and bug reports11:45
cheguevarasorry, have to leave for work, bye11:46
Lure_rouzic: not much activity in LP though?11:46
Lure_bye cheguevara11:46
rouzicapachelogger: #kubuntu-es.org11:46
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apacheloggerrouzic: how about representing Kubuntu @ linux events in es?11:46
rouzicgood bye cheguevara11:47
jpatrickLure: he rarely comes on irc, but I maintain the #kubuntu-es channel11:47
* LongPointyStick sighs at how her screen only sometimes unlocks11:47
LureRiddell: I am fine to give +1 on jpatrick support - LoCo presence is important and can just improve for kubuntu11:48
Lurerouzic: but you need to fix kubuntu-es.org or replace with some other name ;-)11:48
Riddell+1 from me too, good luck with that DNS11:48
* Lure wants to see kubuntu theme11:48
Riddellnixternal awake? Hobbsee?11:49
nixternalif jpatrick is supporting, I would have to consider -1 :P  but seeing as you all like jpatrick, I guess I will do a +1 :p11:49
nixternal+111:49
rouzicapachelogger: yes ;)11:49
Hobbseesee LongPointyStick comment11:49
apacheloggerhrrhrr11:49
apacheloggerI love event promo :D11:49
apachelogger+1 from me11:49
Riddellah nixternal, always windind us up like the office joker11:49
Riddellhe'll be doing silly things with the photocopyer next11:50
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apacheloggeroioi11:50
Riddellcongratulations and welcome rouzic11:50
apacheloggercongrats rouzic11:50
Lurerouzic: rock on!11:50
jpatrickrouzic: bienviendo!11:50
nixternalhahahaha11:50
Hobbseerouzic: -1 from not meeting him in sevilla.11:50
* apachelogger hands out cookies11:50
Riddellwallpapers is next on the agenda11:50
nixternalmy photocopier is to small to do silly things with11:50
Riddelleveryone have the url?  /msg me if not11:50
jpatrickRiddell: I don't11:50
nixternalsee /msg11:50
rouzicriddell: thanks :)11:50
Hobbseerouzic: how do you go for ops, etc, in -es?11:51
RiddellHobbsee: jpatrick says he's not an irc man11:51
Riddelland that jpatrick runs #kubuntu-es11:51
Hobbseeoh.  that's weird, as i've seen him around somewaht :)11:51
Hobbseeahhh.  had forgotten that11:51
jpatrickHobbsee: I have minimumal access, but we both have ops on #kubuntu-es (trying to get the other guy to give more access), I also have ops on #ubuntu-es :p11:51
Hobbseeright11:52
nixternalRiddell: are we supposed to take a vote on what we like with the wp's?11:52
Riddelljpatrick: I can get you whatever access is needed in #kubuntu* channels if a freenode staffer is around11:52
* Hobbsee can too11:52
Riddellso wallpapers11:52
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RiddellI think the final decision should be taken by kwwii11:52
jpatrickoh, pretty11:52
* Hobbsee wants occthecodepoet.jpg11:52
Riddelland it's not limited to the ones here, I just thought since the oxygen team had collected them it would be nice to make use of them11:52
Hobbseewhat's the colour theme for hardy?11:53
Riddellin my mind a wallpaper should not distract at all and fit in the with colour scheme11:53
* Hobbsee notes that the blue ones don't really do it for her11:53
RiddellHobbsee: well of course we have both KDE 3 and 4 to consider11:53
RiddellKDE 3 will be blueish as usual, KDE 4 is a whole new land11:53
mhbriddell-compliant are not much mhb-compliant here either.11:53
Riddellthe ones in riddell-compliant are the non distracting ones that fit in with KDE 3 in my opinion11:54
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nixternalthere are some bubbles i actually like for once in there :)11:54
mhbthe photographic ones tend to be too blurry at higher resolutions11:54
Riddellof course if you've seen the hoary wallpaper I made, you'll know I'm not always the best at chosing these things11:54
nixternalI don't like the "KDE 4 Winner" honestly11:54
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nixternaltop-left in the riddell-compliant section11:55
Riddellso once Ken gets back from the US I think we should give him our preferences and he can chose one11:55
mhbthat sounds sensible.11:55
Riddell'632-img 2760' is my favourite currently11:55
nixternaldoes anyone know if he is in the Chicago land area with his folks by chance?11:55
apacheloggerRiddell: mine too11:56
Riddellnixternal: he hasn't said, but it seems likely11:56
jpatricklooks fishy11:56
nixternalthat is pretty cool11:56
_StefanS_Riddell: got an url for that image?11:56
mhbI like the colour scheme of the Feather wallpaper11:56
nixternalI will have to try and get in touch with him then since he would be right up the road then11:56
apacheloggeryeah, feather is currently my 2nd fav11:56
apacheloggerthough, it might make the whole desktop too darkish11:57
nixternalmy favorite, well it was 282 Colorado Farm, but there are some really nice onces in this list that I haven't seen before11:57
nixternalI like the fish that Riddell likes, and KDE 4 Wall Ts9 is kind of sharp11:57
Riddellnixternal: too Windows XP11:57
nixternalheh11:57
nixternalbut the photo is brilliant :)11:57
_StefanS_Riddell: I like 479-fresh morning11:57
nixternal252 bubbles is kind of neat11:57
RiddellI'm not much of a fan of photos in general, too distracting11:57
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_StefanS_Riddell: your favourite is not in very high quality11:58
mhbI find the fish too cyan to make a good wallpaper11:58
* LongPointyStick curses compiz11:58
mhbalso it suffers from the "blur at high resolution"11:58
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mhbwhich is why I don't make photos anymore :o)11:58
nixternalhehe11:59
nixternal160-The Wall is kind of neat11:59
nixternalOMG11:59
mhbwhat I don't like on the Feather is the feather11:59
nixternal282 Lake Dillon is beautiful11:59
* txwikinger likes the Colorado Farm too11:59
apacheloggermhb: replace it with the logo11:59
mhbbut I assume the wallpaper is SVG, so that could be changed if the author agrees11:59
Hobbseeah yes, the colorado farm is *nice*11:59
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apacheloggerreplace the text with Kubuntu11:59
mhbapachelogger: we don't really like branded wallpapers12:00
* Hobbsee still likes the autumn leaf.12:00
mhbthat's the policy.12:00
apacheloggermhb: but it looks best :P12:00
Riddellso last item on the agenda is a related item12:01
nixternalHobbsee: autumn leaf == img 3101?12:01
_StefanS_hmm the only wallpapers that present nicely in highres is the *oxygen* ones (in riddell-compliant)12:01
Riddellthe artwork team want someone to represent Kubuntu12:02
mhb_StefanS_: the Feather doesn't? :o)12:02
Hobbseenixternal: erm, no, occthecodepoet.jpg12:02
Hobbseenixternal: below TheClouds12:02
_StefanS_mhb: in riddell-compliant12:02
mhb_StefanS_: ah12:02
mhb_StefanS_: right12:02
nixternaloh ya, that is a nice one too12:02
* Hobbsee wonders why it seems that bright desktops seem more distracting than photos12:03
apacheloggermy favs: oxygen, 632 and feather12:03
_StefanS_mhb: I guess thats the ones we have to choose from12:03
Riddellany volunteers to represent Kubuntu on the artwork team?12:03
Hobbseeapachelogger: ooh, yeah.  oxygen is nice12:03
* mhb reads12:03
HobbseeRiddell: i will, if i can get my favorite artwork in :P12:03
nixternalRiddell: do we have to be good at doing graphics?12:04
Hobbseefeather.  oh, shudder.12:04
Riddellnixternal: no I don't think so12:04
nixternalwhat all is involved, any ideas?12:04
apacheloggerwell, one should have an idea of what is going on in kubuntu artwork I guess ;-)12:04
Riddellapachelogger: that should be easy12:04
* nixternal would think Ken would represent us :)12:04
_StefanS_anyone liking those nature photos should definitely check out vplants on deviantart.com12:04
apacheloggernixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings12:04
Riddellken is kindae busy representing everything artwork12:04
apacheloggerpd: List of representative duties:12:05
Riddell* Be active in the IRC channel12:05
Riddell* Be active in list12:05
Riddell* Attend meetings (wherever posible)12:05
nixternalahh, I didn't pay attention to that email thing12:05
apachelogger* Familarity with the structure of their distribution12:05
mhbnixternal: we need someone kubuntu-biased :o)12:05
nixternalumm, I don't see artwork, I see derivative team12:05
* Hobbsee wonders where to get the panorama one at higher resolution12:05
apacheloggernixternal: Subject: Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team12:05
nixternalya, but nothing in that email is about artwork12:06
nixternalRiddell: I was apart of the whole derivatives thing, and never seen much work, so I recently departed from it12:06
Riddellwell if nobody wants to do it, that's ok12:07
Riddellany other business?12:07
mhbwell I can hang around -artwork if that's it12:07
nixternalbut that team has nothing to do with artwork12:07
nixternaldon't let the subject fool ya :)12:07
apacheloggerRiddell: maybe call for someone on -devel?12:07
mhbwell they have ideas12:08
nixternalthis is an "Ubuntu Derivatives" team for helping distros based off of Ubuntu12:08
steveirewas oxygen1 decided on?12:08
Hobbseenixternal: that's what i thought....12:08
apacheloggersteveire: we decided nothing :P12:08
apacheloggerwe are just not in a decideful mood I guess12:08
steveireAh right. It's a nice one though.12:08
Hobbseesteveire: uh, no?12:08
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nixternalRiddell: I will work with the Derivatives team12:09
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* Hobbsee notes you should all use her old background, for something a bit disturbing :P12:09
Riddellok, I think we're done12:10
Riddellthanks nixternal12:10
nixternalhahaha, if it is anything like your MySpace page, then heck no!12:10
Riddellno snogging under the mistletoe12:10
nixternalno problem12:10
nixternaldamn Riddell, just ruin my Holiday why don't ya :)12:10
apachelogger-.-12:10
apacheloggermeh12:10
* nixternal returns the 30 pounds of mistletoe12:10
Riddellnext meeting would be on wednesday 2nd jan12:10
mhbthat's what I wanted to do!12:10
mhb:o(12:10
nixternalgroovy12:10
Hobbseenixternal: they took that down.  but good idea!12:10
mhbokay, looking forward to it12:10
Riddelloh ok, you can snog under the mistletoe if you want12:10
nixternaloh no12:11
apachelogger-.-12:11
nixternalI just returned it!12:11
nixternalhaha12:11
apacheloggermeh^212:11
mhbsee you folks, and merry christmas12:11
tomanice holidays everyone!12:11
* Hobbsee grumbles. no holidays yet12:12
apacheloggernice holidays and merry christmas from the Amarok team :)12:12
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