[00:23] <nwidger> if i want to customize the lirc button mappings for my remote, what should i do?
[01:31] <solarbaby> tazgodx: in about a year from now fireware is going to quadroople in speed
[01:31] <solarbaby> tazgodx: its expected to be fast enough for HD
[01:32] <tgm4883> whats fireware?
[01:32] <solarbaby> Firewire
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> isn't firewire already fast enough for HD?
[01:33] <solarbaby> I doubt it
[01:33] <tgm4883_laptop> thats strange, i was under the impression that I could stream HD over cat5e
[01:33] <solarbaby> I have no real experience with it
[01:33] <solarbaby> but I do know it will quadroople in speed, and thats good news
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> I was also under the impression that HD could be streamed via firewire from a cable box
[01:35] <solarbaby> read this about firewire if your interested
[01:35] <solarbaby> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6223102.html?tag=nl.e550
[01:35] <solarbaby> you may be correct..
[01:35] <solarbaby> I really hadn't played around with it.. but in about a year I sure will
[01:36] <tgm4883_laptop> I hope im correct, otherwise my mythtv setup is defying technology
[01:36] <solarbaby> in that case, you already know your correct
[01:37] <solarbaby> hopefully the next myth server I build will be HD capable..
[01:38] <solarbaby> I'd love my myth server to be the size of a pack of cigerettes, with a firewire hub
[01:38] <solarbaby> and HD capable
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> well, you really should build the frontends capable
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> as most backends are already capable of some form of HD
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> and while not as small as a pack of cigerettes, the via's are pretty small and HD ready
[01:39] <solarbaby> im using a Hauppauge 350, that for sure wouldn't be HD capable for recording
[01:39] <solarbaby> via would be a great way to go
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, an HDHomerun would be better :)
[01:40] <solarbaby> I could settle for a myth server the size of a cartoon of smokes
[01:41] <solarbaby> carton
[01:41] <solarbaby> I really am having a hard time spelling today
[01:41] <solarbaby> must be the holiday jitters
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf, my master backend is totally screwed
[02:44] <tgm4883_laptop> that was pretty strange
[02:44] <tgm4883_laptop> looks all fixed now
[04:21] <tazgodx> hmm
[04:21] <tazgodx> whenever im in here im alone lately
[04:29] <tazgodx> ok so i have my firewire set up to control my STB, and it all works. but when i go to watch that tuner, i jsut see a black screen and then it kicks me back to the menu.
[04:29] <tazgodx> when i first set it up, and turned to that tuner it showed me video of what was on, so i know it was somewhat working
[04:29] <tazgodx> but when i went to change channel it did this
[04:29] <tazgodx> and now won't do anything but this
[04:30] <tazgodx> any ideas?
[06:32] <javatexan> howdy all
[06:33] <GWillakers> I just upgraded my myth box and I have been pulling my hair out trying to get the font sizes right... the EPG descriptions are so small I can hardly see them (the column headings are normal).  Anyone run up against this before?
[06:33] <javatexan> I have a question for all you seasoned guys with mythtv.  What is the 'best', i know this is a loose term format to convert movies and tv programs into for storage.  in a storage-friendly way without terrible pixelation etc
[06:34] <javatexan> seems like the stuff I am trying plays back terrible....mpeg4 mainly is what I've been trying
[06:35] <javatexan> it plays back fine in mpeg format tho....
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[16:48] <nettow0822> tgm4883 you here?
[17:00] <nettow0822> foxbuntu...did you see the fix I found for the snapstream remote channel id?
[17:02] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, yes...good work
[17:02] <nettow0822> so it looked ok to you?
[17:02] <foxbuntu> I am actually working on a GUI Interface for remote mapping and config...I will try to add that as well
[17:02] <nettow0822> ok ty
[17:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[17:43] <MilhousePunkRock> How much of this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI do I still need to do to have my Nova-T 500 fully working?
[17:48] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: you need to wget the firmware for some of the 500's stil yes
[17:48] <Daviey> pretty painless.. just wget it and shove it in the firmware folder
[17:50] <Daviey> Although i have heard of some problems with the IR reciever still not working, i'd love to hear how it goes with you
[17:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: Well, I got the firmware from here already, http://www.omskakas.se/2007/01/howto-hauppauge-nova-t-500-pci-under-linux.html
[17:51] <MilhousePunkRock> And in fact, my IR receiver is not working, it does not even seem to be recognised
[17:51] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: thats not the most recent one
[17:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I wonder if that is because of the firmware I use, the blog author mentiones he does not use the remote/receiver
[17:51] <Daviey> the most recent is from ~Sept this year
[17:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: From when is the firmware mentioned on the wiki?
[17:53] <Daviey> http://www.wi-bw.tfh-wildau.de/~pboettch/home/linux-dvb-firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw <- i belive that is the most recent
[17:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: OK, time for a change... Turning on the amplifier as mentioned on the wiki reduced the bit erros to 0, by the way
[17:55] <Daviey> cool
[17:55] <Daviey> let me know how you get on with that firmware
[17:55] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: "dmesg | grep input" is your friend btw
[17:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: I've gone through dmesg completely, no sign of the IR receiver
[17:56] <Daviey> after that firmware from above ^?
[17:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Now I wonder why the resolution of MythTV now is lower than it should be... Note to self: Change one thing at a time ;)
[17:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: Right now I use the firmware from the blog, that will change in a few moments though
[17:58] <Daviey> change it now, and reboot to be sure - do it now, you know you should
[17:58] <Daviey> come on charlie
[17:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[18:02] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: ?
[18:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Hang on
[18:03] <Daviey> tick tock
[18:04] <MilhousePunkRock> rebooting now
[18:07] <Daviey> Okay, should be up now - how's the dmesg?
[18:11] <MilhousePunkRock> No sign of the IR receiver
[18:11] <MilhousePunkRock> :(
[18:17] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: bah, let me know what you find out - where did you buy it out of interest?
[18:18] <MilhousePunkRock> seems like the card needs to be in cold state for the other firmware to be loaded
[18:18] <MilhousePunkRock> ebay... Is supposed to be used only for testing purposes, remote, ir receiver and batteries were still sealed
[18:20] <Daviey> ah, good point!
[18:21] <pdragon> For video input to a TV, would the regular VGA port be better or worse than Component video?
[18:21] <Daviey> better
[18:21] <pdragon> TV actually has a VGA port
[18:21] <Daviey> DVI/HDMI > VGA > Component
[18:21] <pdragon> cool, thanks!
[18:22] <pdragon> yeah, doesn't have  DVI port. Has HDMI, but dont have a video card with one of those connectors
[18:23] <pdragon> think onboard video on the motherboard would be good enough for HD, or still get an inexpensive video card?
[18:23] <Daviey> pdragon: HDMI = DVI + sound
[18:23] <pdragon> yeah i know
[18:23] <Daviey> ebay has some cheapo DVI to HDMI converter cables
[18:24] <pdragon> how would the sound go in with one of them?
[18:24] <Daviey> doesn't
[18:24] <pdragon> ok
[18:24] <Daviey> i used to use dvi -> hdmi cable with seperate amo
[18:24] <Daviey> amp*
[18:25] <pdragon> cool. this is for my parents. they just have an HD LCD TV. no stereo
[18:25] <pdragon> tv has a PC audio connector on it, tho
[18:25] <Daviey> that might work, what model tv?
[18:26] <Daviey> PC audio connector with DVI/HDMI cable worked on mine - but no promise
[18:26] <pdragon> Sony Bravia
[18:27] <pdragon> think I'd need a video card or would the onboard video be good enough?
[18:27] <pdragon> they may get an HDHomerun at some point, but aren't for now
[18:27] <pdragon> so, just Standard TV right now, with possibility of HD
[18:29] <Daviey> hard to say, sorry
[18:29] <Daviey> don't touch ATI tho (IMO)
[18:30] <pdragon> oh i know
[18:31] <pdragon> /qhttp://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814125041
[18:31] <pdragon> woops
[18:31] <pdragon> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814125041
[18:31] <pdragon> that's what i've got planned right now
[18:33] <Daviey> you could look into cards with HDMI on.. but the audio driver for many of them is currently borked
[18:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: There was a typo in my cp line, the new firmware never got where it belongs... ;)
[18:34] <tgm4883> pdragon, what onboard video?
[18:35] <tgm4883> heh, i have that exact video card on my desktop
[18:35] <pdragon> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813121319
[18:35] <pdragon> that motherboard
[18:35]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:35] <tgm4883> I use an onboard nvidia 6200
[18:36] <tgm4883> and it plays HD just fine
[18:36] <pdragon> cool
[18:36] <tgm4883> wouldn't hurt to try it
[18:37] <tgm4883> also, you might be able to get that video card intown for about the same price.  I paid about $45 for mine in town about 10 months ago
[18:38] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: it now works?
[18:38] <tgm4883> anyone have a hvr-950 picking up HD?
[18:40] <tgm4883> heh, i'll take that as no
[18:41] <MilhousePunkRock> The wiki is a bit imprecise, cp <firmwarefile> /lib/firmware is not sufficient, since the version at the end is then not the file the kernel wants to load... I fixed it now and the reboot is almost done
[18:41] <Daviey> sudo cp dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/
[18:41] <MilhousePunkRock> The .10 is wrong
[18:42] <Daviey> ah
[18:42] <MilhousePunkRock> And I thought it was supposed to go into /lib/firmware only, without the kernel folder
[18:43] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: so, sudo cp dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/dvb-usb-dib0700-01.fw
[18:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: And another reboot
[18:44] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: cremove the power for a few mins
[18:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Will do if it does not work now, technically the card should be "cold" since the last two reboots the firmware was not in place
[18:46] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: dmesg will  tell you if it is col or warm following a reboot
[18:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: I prefer removing the power cable and pressing the power button until I hear a little hissing sound (probably some transistors, resistors, whatever getting rid of the last volts)
[18:47] <Daviey> you could test it with your tongue?
[18:47] <MilhousePunkRock> hehe
[18:48] <MilhousePunkRock> well, firmware loads fine now, TV works, but still no sign of the remote receiver
[18:51] <Daviey> awwww
[18:51] <Daviey> dmesg grep.. showed nothing?
[18:52] <Daviey> Don't know if upgrading v4l-dvb would help
[18:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: Well, more on that tomorrow... Dinner's almost ready...
[18:59] <Daviey> MilhousePunkRock: okay, let me know if you have success
[19:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Daviey: Will do... See you tomorrow...
[19:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Have a nice evening everyone!
[19:11] <Daviey> tgm4883: are you using the binary drivers for your graphics card?
[19:30] <rinaldi_> i am currently installing mthbuntu 7.10 and i selected standard settings to configure the backend, i have a hauppuage nova-t dvb-t cx8800, does anyone know which card type i should be selecting in capture card settings? i have tried all of the options and nothing seems to find any channels. im still running the live cd. any ideas?
[19:34] <Daviey> rinaldi_: DVB
[19:34] <Daviey> rinaldi_: is it the nova 500 per chance?
[19:35] <rinaldi_> daviey: no its the cx8800, well at least thats what it says when the video device is /dev/video0
[19:35] <rinaldi_> daviey: il try dvb again then
[19:38] <rinaldi_> Daviey: should i need to configure things like "dvb card number" or "signal timeout"?
[19:38] <Daviey> yes
[19:39] <Daviey> probably card "0"
[19:39] <Daviey> signal timeout leave
[19:39] <rinaldi_> Daviey: yeh thats already there, and the timeout is already 1000. and the tuninng timeout is 3000
[19:39] <Daviey> rinaldi_: if you can't get it working, try something like gxine or vlc as video players and see if it works outside myth
[19:40] <Daviey> when you select the device it should state the model in card setup
[19:41] <rinaldi_> Daviey: in the Frontend ID is says Could not open card #0 Subtype: No such file or directory
[19:42] <rinaldi_> Daviey: sould i try vlc through the livecd?
[19:50] <rinaldi_> Daviey: i tried through vlc and xine as dvb and it says it can't find it
[19:51] <Daviey> hmm
[19:51] <Daviey> Ah, are you currently in the livecd?
[19:52] <rinaldi_> Daviey: yes well it hasnt asked me for reboot so i continued setup, should i go through hardrive?
[19:53] <Daviey> rinaldi_: yeah, i would just carry on and sort it once installed
[20:01] <rinaldi_> Daviey: wow, never realised the livecd wouldnt have the same functionality, its found the card and its scanning. thanks, though i would have come across it eventually!
[20:32] <rxbandit> alright guys got a mythbuntu problem
[20:32] <rxbandit> tried two diffent iso's now
[20:32] <rxbandit> i can't run mythtv-setup after i install
[20:32] <rxbandit> running mythtv-setup.real produces a Segmentation fault(core dumped)
[20:32] <rxbandit> what gives?
[21:29] <nettow0822_> tgm4883 are you here?
[22:37] <nettow0822_> tgm4883 you there?
[22:45] <nettow0822_> can anyone answer a question in setting up apcie tuner card?
[22:47] <nettow0822_> i updated the linuxtv drvers which included the card I have...dvico fusion hdtv 5 express
[22:48] <nettow0822_> the sys log see the card ok but mythtv doesn't
[22:48] <nettow0822_> I have the pci version of the fusion card already installed and it is functioning ok
[22:50] <nettow0822_> myth backend doesn't see it correctly....when i setup a new dvb...it sees the other pci fusion card
[22:50] <nettow0822_> so I can't run both at th same time
[22:51] <nettow0822_> I can remove the pci tuner and just use the pcie card fine but not both together
[23:55] <levander> Should the Mythbuntu LiveCD work when your graphics card is hooked up to its monitor via TV out?
[23:58] <levander> Damn, there's no documentation for GDM whatsoever.