[05:46] <peanutb> i have installed edubuntu server on an extra computer, but i cant seem to get the dhcp server running
[05:48] <peanutb> ah. i havent configured a subnet yet
[06:15] <Burgundavia> peanutb: you need to configure a subnet wherein the static IP of one of the nics is in that subnet
[06:21] <peanutb> Burgundavia: after some looking, i slapped myself ont he head for forgetting to set an ip for eth2
[06:21] <peanutb> thanks
[06:25] <Burgundavia> no worries
[06:25] <Burgundavia> sometimes it is the simplest stuff that gets you
[06:25] <Burgundavia> what are you using LTSP for?
[06:48] <peanutb> just messing around with it
[06:49] <peanutb> my school already has a laptop program, so it would be sorta useless here
[06:49] <peanutb> well
[06:49] <peanutb> edubuntu would be great
[06:49] <peanutb> but the netadmins are macheads
[06:50] <peanutb> Burgundavia: do you know if the lockdown manager needs something special for the settings to take affect
[06:51] <Burgundavia> nope
[06:51] <Burgundavia> it should just work
[06:51] <peanutb> hmm
[06:51] <Burgundavia> you need the profile editor as well
[06:51] <johnny> sabayon has some bugs in it that prevent it from being that useful tho
[06:51] <johnny> i have reproducible crashes all over the place
[06:52] <johnny> i do have some patches for them tho
[06:52] <peanutb> it seems to be letting the test account change its own lockdown privlages and doesnt implement them at all
[06:52] <johnny> were you trying to run the lockdown thingy inside the profile session?
[06:52] <johnny> or in the containing window
[06:52] <peanutb> in the Thin client manager
[06:53] <johnny> thin client manager? that has options for lockdown?
[06:53] <peanutb> yes
[06:53] <Burgundavia> johnny: sabayon really truly needs an upstream maintainer
[06:53] <johnny> i'd suggest you just go in the menu in your ubuntu install
[06:53] <peanutb> doesnt seem to work very well tho
[06:53] <johnny> Burgundavia, i'm applying for an svn account
[06:53] <Burgundavia> afaik, peanutb, that only works in the running session
[06:53] <Burgundavia> ie: it does not save it
[06:53] <johnny> federico vouched for me
[06:53] <johnny> we'll see
[06:53] <peanutb> ah
[06:54] <johnny> i don't know if i want to be the "maintainer"
[06:54] <johnny> but i am going to make it work
[06:54] <johnny> and apply all the patches i've seen
[06:54] <peanutb> ohh maintaining is easy... you just get others to do the work for you
[06:54] <johnny> and my own
[06:54] <johnny> sure.. but then you get yelled at for not doing any work :)
[06:54] <johnny> this is more like a serial patch spree
[06:54] <johnny> ocne it gets up to where i need it to
[06:55] <johnny> i prolly won't have time.. as then i need to focus on other junkz
[06:55] <johnny> our lil organization is pretty tech
[06:55] <Burgundavia> johnny: have you chatted with federico?
[06:55] <johnny> yes
[06:55] <johnny> he wouldn't have vouched for me otherwise now would he :)
[06:56] <johnny> we rely on tech.. but don't have enough techies
[06:56] <johnny> makes me a bit sad
[06:56] <johnny> working on it
[06:57] <Burgundavia> why does working on it make you sad
[06:57] <Burgundavia> ?
[06:57] <Burgundavia> because nobody else does?
[06:57] <johnny> i wasn't speaking about sabayon..
[06:57] <johnny> i mean in general
[06:57] <johnny> yes
[06:57] <johnny> the required skillset is pretty deep
[06:58] <johnny> to be ableto float around to the different areas that need taclked at any given time
[06:58] <johnny> tackled*
[06:58]  * peanutb shakes his head
[06:58] <peanutb> terminal doesnt seem to want to be locked
[06:59] <johnny> did you to to System | Administration | User Profile ... | Lockdown ?
[06:59] <peanutb> yes
[06:59] <johnny> not just System | Administration | User Profile Manager
[06:59] <johnny> err
[06:59] <johnny> not just System | Administration | Lockdown Editor
[07:00] <johnny> it's very rare to find folks who have deep experience in so many areas Burgundavia
[07:00] <johnny> basically.. up and down the OSI stack :)
[07:01] <peanutb> hmm... error starting gnome settings daemon
[07:02] <johnny> yeah.. i get that in the profile editor sometimes
[07:02] <johnny> that's something i'm going to work on
[07:02] <peanutb> despite my trials, i cannot block terminal
[07:02] <johnny> aha.. didn't notice that
[07:02] <johnny> cuz we don't block terminals
[07:02] <peanutb> i know
[07:02] <johnny> only locking the panel
[07:03] <peanutb> im going for a theoretical situation where the admins are nazis
[07:03] <peanutb> aka my school
[07:03]  * peanutb mumbles about how they are going to block all websites not on an allow list next semester
[07:04] <johnny> that'll be impossible to maintain
[07:04] <johnny> there will be a riot
[07:04] <peanutb> thats what i am thinking... but we shall see
[07:04] <peanutb> those are the very words i told the net admin
[07:04]  * peanutb is a pseudo intern with them
[07:05] <johnny> there are tons of pages out there that will be asked to be added
[07:05] <johnny> they won't be able to keep up with the demand
[07:05] <peanutb> my point exactly
[07:05] <Burgundavia> peanutb: sabayon needs to have a white/black list of allowed apps
[07:05] <peanutb> but of cource the staff get less restricted access because they will be on a different subnet
[07:05] <johnny> and then if they rely on kids to ask teachers for access to certain websites, how is the teacher gonna know the site isn't exploited to pull you right out via some browser in a browser technique :)
[07:05] <peanutb> Burgundavia: exactly
[07:06] <peanutb> its only on the teacher's encrypted wifi access
[07:06] <peanutb> Burgundavia: OSX 10.5 does that really well, signing all applications
[07:07] <johnny> your school is going to be training the next generation of hackers for real
[07:07] <peanutb> they already did
[07:07] <johnny> excuse me..
[07:07] <johnny> crackers
[07:07] <johnny> my bad
[07:07] <peanutb> thats actually how i got the pseudo job
[07:08] <peanutb> well
[07:08] <peanutb> it was by association
[07:08] <peanutb> but others figured out that there is a vnc server running on every laptop and cracked the password for it
[07:08] <peanutb> it was hellish for a week or so
[07:09]  * peanutb decides to reboot so the new image will take affect
[07:10] <peanutb> its not regualr vnc its apple remote desktop but same difference
[07:13]  * peanutb stops rambling
[07:13] <peanutb> has
[07:14] <peanutb> has anyone gotten x11vnc working?
[07:15] <johnny> not in gutsy
[07:15] <johnny> there's another way
[07:15] <peanutb> how?
[07:15] <johnny> the thin client manager thing is outmoded
[07:15] <peanutb> ah
[07:15] <johnny> from  my understanding
[07:15] <johnny> italc is the new thing or something
[07:15] <johnny> but i haven't read the details
[07:25] <peanutb> mmm more time consumeing setup
[07:26] <johnny> all i noticed was that it required a daemon
[07:26] <johnny> so i ignored it for no
[07:26] <johnny> now*
[07:27] <peanutb> i cant seem to find helpful docs
[07:29] <peanutb> its getting late
[07:29] <peanutb> goodnight
[08:27] <lns-eee> blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh