| poningru | hmm | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| poningru | I think there is something wrong with turning on the fan in my laptop after coming back up from hibernate | 00:19 |
| poningru | as in the cpu temp goes waaay up | 00:19 |
| poningru | but the fan doesnt kick in | 00:19 |
| poningru | but only after I hibernate and then come out of it | 00:20 |
| DanaG | Don't you just love broken BIOSes? | 00:32 |
| DanaG | I've been lucky to only have the opposite problem, and only occasionally: | 00:33 |
| DanaG | My ACPI Thermal Zone will sometimes randomly decide it's really hot, and ramp the fans way up, and stick that way until I reboot. | 00:34 |
| poningru | hmm you think its the bios? | 00:34 |
| poningru | oh that makes sense I guess | 00:34 |
| poningru | whats hibernate? | 00:34 |
| poningru | S5? | 00:34 |
| DanaG | Or rather, the ACPI code -- what's called a "DSDT". | 00:34 |
| DanaG | I find it odd that it'd work after hibernate -- hibernate seems mostly like shutdown, to me. | 00:35 |
| poningru | S4 | 00:35 |
| DanaG | Somewhere the kernel must be poking something in a way that makes the fan work. | 00:35 |
| poningru | no I think its probably the bios | 00:35 |
| DanaG | DSDT is stored in / part of the BIOS. | 00:35 |
| poningru | oh hmm | 00:35 |
| DanaG | But you can override it if you can find a fixed one online. | 00:36 |
| DanaG | You'd have to look up your system (laptop or desktop or whatever) by model number, along with the word 'ACPI'. | 00:37 |
| poningru | yeah tried that already | 00:37 |
| poningru | havent really found anything | 00:37 |
| poningru | oh well not my laptop | 00:37 |
| poningru | just the chipset | 00:37 |
| DanaG | Dang. | 00:38 |
| === tonyyaru1so is now known as tonyyarusso | ||
| crimsun | hmph. We seem to have a problem with the default mixer element being mislabeled in pavucontrol. | 00:54 |
| crimsun | e.g., PCM vice Master | 00:54 |
| DanaG | PulseAudio does odd things to my USB headset. | 00:58 |
| DanaG | The control name in alsamixer is "Speaker". When I try to use the gnome volume control, the left channel repeatedly drops to zero volume. | 00:58 |
| crimsun | DanaG: what're the `lshal` and `asoundconf list` bits for your headset? | 01:03 |
| DanaG | oh | 01:06 |
| DanaG | asoundconf list: "Headset" (without quotes) | 01:07 |
| DanaG | Which part of LSHAL? Just name and Device ID? | 01:07 |
| DanaG | info.product Logitech USB Headset | 01:08 |
| crimsun | DanaG: everything relevant to your headset. | 01:08 |
| DanaG | I'll pastebin the whole thing, then. | 01:09 |
| DanaG | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49369/ | 01:11 |
| DanaG | Oddly, it shows up as a composite device with only one subdevice. | 01:11 |
| DanaG | I guess they must make another model that uses similar chips but adds a HID device, or something. | 01:11 |
| crimsun | unfortunately there's no SSID info | 01:14 |
| crimsun | that's the only way that can be cross-referenced | 01:14 |
| DanaG | SSID? | 01:16 |
| crimsun | subsystem identifier | 01:16 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, another odd thing is that it shows three "USB Audio Interface" devices in hal-device-manager tree, but only one has the sound card subdevice. | 01:16 |
| crimsun | hal just needs to be taught about it. | 01:17 |
| DanaG | Even Windows shows it as a USB Composite Device. Besides that cosmetic issue, the "mutes left channel" is the real issue. | 01:17 |
| DanaG | I believe PulseAudio is what's doing that. | 01:17 |
| crimsun | ... | 01:18 |
| crimsun | why would PA have anything to do with what d- | 01:18 |
| crimsun | h-d-m exposes? | 01:18 |
| DanaG | Oh wait, it's not pulseaudio. Even without PA running, gnome volume control still mutes the left channel. | 01:18 |
| crimsun | so we need to look at GSt if alsamixer/amixer/aumix work correctly. | 01:19 |
| DanaG | AAh. Console alsamixer works correctly. | 01:19 |
| pwnguin | i do wish liferea had proper mime type handling | 01:42 |
| === bigon is now known as bigon` | ||
| romistrub | what's this new sound system being developed? | 02:03 |
| romistrub | I'm entirely new to the linux community (first week) and my friend (who intro'd me) told me about this new sound system | 02:04 |
| DarkMageZ | romistrub, possibly pulseaudio. | 02:25 |
| * DanaG uses PulseAudio. | 02:28 | |
| DanaG | It can do wonderful things, but it also can cause evil bugs in poorly-coded apps. | 02:28 |
| DanaG | For example, one time PulseAudio crashed, and the next time Pidgin went to play a sound, it sat there eating up my memory until it was taking 80% of (RAM + SWAP). | 02:29 |
| DarkMageZ | hehe, pidgin = poorly coded app =D | 02:30 |
| DarkMageZ | is there a way to stop this new xorg from ignoring /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? | 02:49 |
| === tritium_ is now known as tritium | ||
| DanaG | 2+2 = ....buzz..buzz..buzz... 10. In base 4, I'm fine. | 05:33 |
| DanaG | s/=/is/ | 05:34 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I just discovered ANOTHER thing about PulseAudio: | 06:45 |
| DanaG | It uses the "PCM" slider of my Audigy, not the "Front", so I can't upmix. | 06:45 |
| === FunnyHat is now known as FunnyLookinHat | ||
| === Tomcat_` is now known as Tomcat_ | ||
| DanaG | PulseAudio also won't automatically use surround on my Audigy2. | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | your sound setup sounds terrible. | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: fix it :) | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: DanaG's sounds worse than my old frankenstinean laptop, no? | 07:08 |
| DanaG | No, it actually sounds rather good. | 07:09 |
| crimsun | it should sound better. It uses speex's resampler by default. | 07:09 |
| crimsun | also, I noted the mixer element issue above. | 07:09 |
| crimsun | it's 2 AM localtime, so I will have to peer more closely later today. | 07:10 |
| * Hobbsee was meaning level of tempramentalness, not actual sound | 07:10 | |
| DanaG | Oh, and daemon.conf seems to have had all comments removed lately. | 07:11 |
| DanaG | the .dpkg-old version still has them. | 07:11 |
| crimsun | um, no. | 07:11 |
| crimsun | that's very much a local issue for you. | 07:12 |
| DanaG | Odd. | 07:12 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: yes, but [un]fortunately that's not PA's fault. We can blame ALSA for the overly complex mixer elements enumeration for EMU10Ks. | 07:13 |
| crimsun | granted now that we've had that for upwards of a half-decade, we have to carry that legacy compatibility... | 07:13 |
| DanaG | If you need sleep, you should get sleep. | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | true | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | just don't give up sound, whatever you do | 07:13 |
| DanaG | It's 11:13 for me (Pacific) so I should go to bed soon, anyway. | 07:13 |
| Knightlust | hi all, quick question.. i have hardy installed, but i want kde4.. how do i go about that. i tried installing kde4 and kde4-core but aptitude gave me dependency errors and won't install it. | 07:14 |
| DanaG | That reminds me... I've spotted a few bugs in various packages, but I reeeally need to formally file them. | 07:14 |
| crimsun | (speaking of KDE 4, I'm quite pleased that it will be an option for 8.04.) | 07:14 |
| DanaG | ....and not get stuck in an endless cycle of "I'll do it tomorrow". | 07:15 |
| crimsun | memoserv your primary irc nick. | 07:15 |
| crimsun | use tomboy or stickies, etc. | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | use compiz. | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | annotate :) | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | far more effective. | 07:16 |
| DanaG | There's also some "don't forget the milk" site online. | 07:16 |
| * Hobbsee thinks annotate is far more effective | 07:17 | |
| DanaG | It's not permanent, though. | 07:17 |
| crimsun | unfortunately compiz requires enabling dri, and simply enabling dri is strongly correlated to a plummet in work productivity by sig11s. | 07:17 |
| * DanaG uses nvidia. | 07:18 | |
| DanaG | I just hope ATI is better than NVIDIA by the time summer rolls around. | 07:18 |
| DanaG | Oh, one of the bugs I need to file: that scheduler issue. | 07:18 |
| crimsun | (my symptom is similar to #175744.) | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | DanaG: for every bug you file, you either have to fix one, or triage 2. | 07:18 |
| DanaG | Hmm, is src-sinc-fastest better than the speex resampler? | 07:19 |
| crimsun | no | 07:19 |
| DanaG | I guess I need to either give up folding@home or resign myself to running hot. | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Even if I 'nice' the folding@home processes, anything else (such as PulseAudio) using CPU will speed it up. Perhaps I just need to change the thresholds. | 07:20 |
| crimsun | hmm, or be more precise regarding "better". | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Better as in audible quality difference. | 07:21 |
| crimsun | then no, it's most definitely "worse" than the default speex one used. | 07:21 |
| crimsun | you could also just disable resampling period. | 07:22 |
| DanaG | I haven't thought about how that'd work. | 07:22 |
| crimsun | I would definitely disable resampling before burning a hole in my pants. | 07:23 |
| crimsun | granted, if it came to that, I'd chase down a bug in src:linux. | 07:23 |
| crimsun | barring that and using laziness, revert to l-i-2.6.22-14-generic | 07:23 |
| crimsun | ok, time to board the train. | 07:24 |
| crimsun | ^Ad | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Huh? | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Train? | 07:24 |
| crimsun | ^Wmetro, aka "train" | 07:25 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, is there a way to make snd-usb-audio be able to give multiple indexes, but none below a certain number? | 07:26 |
| crimsun | more precise example? | 07:27 |
| DanaG | Eeh, perhaps commas will work. | 07:27 |
| Fjodor | Anecdotal remark of a time long past, but back in the days when 2.6.15 was the supplied kernel (was that the dapper?), my laptop reported a cpu temperature in the high 40's or low 50's. After dist-upgrading, it ran consistently in the high 50's and up to 65-67C... | 07:27 |
| crimsun | yes, commas would work. | 07:27 |
| Fjodor | Just apropos "running hot"... | 07:27 |
| billytwowilly | Is there a way to customize the big black bar at the bottom of kde 4? | 07:27 |
| crimsun | I recommend using slots= for snd.ko instead of index= for snd-*.ko, though. | 07:27 |
| crimsun | unfortunately that [slots] param isn't in 1.0.15 in 2.6.24 | 07:28 |
| crimsun | you'll need hg or a snap | 07:28 |
| DanaG | I indent to have onboard be 0, audigy be 1, and anything usb be 2 or above. | 07:29 |
| DanaG | ...but then again, with PulseAudio, it doesn't matter. | 07:29 |
| crimsun | right, I wouldn't use plug: for PA | 07:29 |
| crimsun | just use PA natively | 07:29 |
| crimsun | (w/ hal) | 07:29 |
| crimsun | I think I made that comment earlier last night | 07:30 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, now I remember why I keep them in a certain order: for the Gnome mixer. | 07:30 |
| crimsun | (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/109439/comments/4) | 07:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109439 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio should use default alsa devices" [Undecided,New] | 07:31 |
| DanaG | Pulseaudio as default, using default: bad. Very bad. I know -- I've tried it, accidentally. | 07:32 |
| DanaG | Gaack, that hotplug sound always catches me by surprise. It's actually kind of funny that I haven't learned not to put headphones on until after I've plugged them in. | 07:33 |
| DanaG | (referring to 'conditioned response', partly.) | 07:34 |
| crimsun | ok, really 'night. | 07:34 |
| DanaG | Good nigh. | 07:34 |
| DanaG | t. | 07:34 |
| DanaG | Next thing I think I'll do: ditch my Audigy and get a CM106-based USB sound card. | 07:35 |
| * DanaG redirects his rant to /dev/null | 07:35 | |
| DanaG | Note to self: don't repeatedly eject and insert my Audigy. | 07:46 |
| Laser88 | Hi! | 07:55 |
| DarkMageZ | anyone know how i can make xorg pat attention to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? | 08:04 |
| scizzo- | DarkMageZ: xorg pat? | 08:07 |
| DarkMageZ | pay* | 08:07 |
| DarkMageZ | it appears to be completely ignoring it :( | 08:08 |
| scizzo- | DarkMageZ: X needs to be restarted for xorg to be reread | 08:08 |
| DarkMageZ | i rebooted the entire syste | 08:08 |
| scizzo- | DarkMageZ: well then what is the change you are trying to do? | 08:09 |
| Laser88 | After the reboot are your changes still in the xorg.conf or are they overwritten? | 08:09 |
| DarkMageZ | still in the xorg.conf | 08:10 |
| scizzo- | still asking what you are trying to change and what you think should happen? | 08:12 |
| Laser88 | yep, would be interesting | 08:15 |
| DarkMageZ | i added a resolution. | 08:16 |
| scizzo- | DarkMageZ: paste the config on pastebin | 08:16 |
| DarkMageZ | http://pastebin.ca/829576 | 08:17 |
| scizzo- | the "1280x960" ? | 08:19 |
| Laser88 | And you cannot choose it? | 08:19 |
| DarkMageZ | yeah. the 1280x960. can't pick it. works without the fglrx package | 08:20 |
| Laser88 | What if you uncomment the other resolutions? | 08:21 |
| DarkMageZ | turn them into comments? shouldn't have to go that far. | 08:22 |
| Laser88 | Shouldn't - but I've heard that it sometimes helps - forces the 1280x960 | 08:23 |
| DarkMageZ | right, i'm gonna give it a shot | 08:23 |
| Laser88 | But you should be able to make this change back without X | 08:24 |
| pwnguin | finally | 08:24 |
| pwnguin | my sd card works | 08:24 |
| DarkMageZ | restarting | 08:24 |
| * pwnguin does a dance | 08:24 | |
| pwnguin | <(o-o)< | 08:25 |
| pwnguin | >(o-o)> | 08:25 |
| pwnguin | \o\ | 08:25 |
| Laser88 | The pwnguin-shuffle^^ | 08:25 |
| pwnguin | oh man, if these new xorg updates bring in fixed wacom | 08:26 |
| pwnguin | im set | 08:26 |
| pwnguin | they do not =( | 08:27 |
| DarkMageZ | no change | 08:27 |
| === macd_ is now known as macd | ||
| Laser88 | Did anybody already create a new user with HardyHeron? | 09:37 |
| Laser88 | Experienced problems? | 09:44 |
| DreadKnight | is anyone using hardy with kde4 allready? | 10:24 |
| stdin | indeed :) | 10:24 |
| bazhang | hehe | 10:24 |
| DreadKnight | how do i upgrade? is it enough to add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main" to the 3rd party repo and update? | 10:28 |
| stdin | don't mix gutsy and hardy | 10:28 |
| stdin | if you want to upgrade just replace gutsy with hardy (and may god have mercy on you) | 10:29 |
| DreadKnight | in the sources.list file? | 10:29 |
| cj_ | perl -p -i -e s/gutsy/hardy/g /etc/apt/sources.list | 10:29 |
| pvandewyngaerde | if you want to spend your hollidays fixing your system | 10:29 |
| DreadKnight | hehe | 10:30 |
| stdin | "sed -i 's/gutsy/hardy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" is a shorter command | 10:31 |
| pvandewyngaerde | what is the last g for ? | 10:31 |
| stdin | without 'g' it would stop after the 1st instance/replace | 10:31 |
| cj_ | stdin: thats non POSIX :o | 10:35 |
| stdin | it's how sed works, blame GNU | 10:35 |
| cj_ | indeed. real sed is a lot less forgiving | 10:36 |
| MaximLevitsky | One question, I updated the system to hardy, and notice that all gtk application use some default and not-good theme. How can I fix this, or is this a bug? | 10:47 |
| MaximLevitsky | I used feisty before, then updated to gutsy, used it for a day, and then updated to hardy. Usially I "update" the system by reinstalling newer version, and this is why I used so outdated version. But now I dicovered that updates aren't bad at all, and now I am back using beta-version of ubuntu | 10:49 |
| MaximLevitsky | Mostly this is the only problem I have | 10:50 |
| MaximLevitsky | I use kubuntu | 10:50 |
| pvandewyngaerde | FF3 is ugly here, also gtk related i think | 10:51 |
| pvandewyngaerde | also kubuntu | 10:51 |
| MaximLevitsky | I have all gtk applications ugly: large fonts, square window98 like buttons, etc | 10:53 |
| MaximLevitsky | I meant square widgets | 10:53 |
| MaximLevitsky | I need to know whenever this is a config-related issue, or a real bug that I will report | 10:54 |
| MaximLevitsky | Before the update all applications, but vmware-server did look right | 10:54 |
| MaximLevitsky | After update to gutsy I got vmware looking right, but few alpplications got ugly | 10:55 |
| MaximLevitsky | Now all are ugly | 10:55 |
| === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian | ||
| travkin | Hello guys. | 11:21 |
| travkin | I have problem. | 11:21 |
| travkin | GTK themes doesnt working, Firefox/Gajim/Pidgin are ugly. | 11:21 |
| travkin | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648099 | 11:21 |
| travkin | how to fix this ? | 11:21 |
| MaximLevitsky | Same here | 11:21 |
| travkin | :( | 11:22 |
| travkin | any ideas ? | 11:22 |
| MaximLevitsky | Don't have any ideas :-( | 11:23 |
| MaximLevitsky | But since you have same issue, this is prbably a bug | 11:24 |
| travkin | Where can i report about this ? | 11:24 |
| MaximLevitsky | Launchpad ? | 11:25 |
| MaximLevitsky | You can report bug on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | 11:31 |
| MaximLevitsky | I probably report it there if you don't wat to do so | 11:31 |
| travkin | and also java doesn't work | 11:35 |
| MaximLevitsky | Yep | 11:40 |
| MaximLevitsky | "java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed." | 11:40 |
| MaximLevitsky | Java doesn't work here too | 11:42 |
| MaximLevitsky | "java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed." | 11:42 |
| travkin | MaximLevitsky: how to fix ? :( | 11:45 |
| MaximLevitsky | Don't know :-) | 11:45 |
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| hit | how do i see if i have alpha 1 or 2 installed? | 13:34 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, kernel version. .22 is alpha 1 .24 is alpha 2 | 13:36 |
| DarkMageZ | tho you can just run the updater on alpha 1 to reach alpha 2 | 13:36 |
| hit | alpha 2 then already, thanks | 13:37 |
| hit | DarkMageZ, any changelog or somthing about what's fixed/added in alpha 2? | 13:43 |
| hit | +e | 13:43 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha2 is all i can think of atm. | 13:44 |
| DarkMageZ | tho there's probably more =D | 13:44 |
| hit | i'm curious about those screen freezes i've had here with alpha 1 | 13:45 |
| hit | so far haven't had any with 2, so maybe it's fixed somehow | 13:46 |
| optx | hi can somebody give me a link how to fix the 'running local boot script' on hardy please ? | 13:50 |
| optx | when i google i just get fixes for 7.10 ??? | 13:51 |
| hit | roar | 13:52 |
| hit | another freeze | 13:52 |
| hit | ctrl alt backsp won't even work | 13:52 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, i haven't experienced any freezing. probably a driver issue. | 13:53 |
| optx | no help 4 this prob ? | 13:54 |
| hit | ati drivers | 13:54 |
| hit | not official | 13:54 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, refering to fglrx or ati 6.7.197? | 13:55 |
| hit | ati | 13:55 |
| hit | fglrx was even worse | 13:55 |
| DarkMageZ | i'm running ubuntu's ati (xorg) driver. stable. chipset version with driver issue i would guess. | 13:56 |
| DarkMageZ | what ati chipset? rv200/300/410 | 13:57 |
| optx | so what can i do to get hardy working ? | 13:57 |
| hit | 9550 | 13:57 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, lspci | grep ati | 13:58 |
| hit | RV350? | 13:58 |
| DarkMageZ | ah. same as my card (probably a different clock rate and stuff) | 13:59 |
| hit | ah and i have 6.7.196 | 13:59 |
| hit | as synaptic says | 13:59 |
| DarkMageZ | yeah. there's no changes in upstream's code that directly references our chipset as unstable. are you sure it's not a hardware issue. | 14:00 |
| hit | i.e gaming in windows is fine | 14:01 |
| hit | can't be hw problem i think | 14:02 |
| DarkMageZ | gaming is a good test. was a previous ubuntu/linux fine? | 14:02 |
| hit | again | 14:03 |
| optx | nobody here to help me ? | 14:03 |
| hit | very often happens when using firefox | 14:03 |
| DarkMageZ | optx, i have nfi about your problem :p | 14:04 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, gaming is a good test. was a previous ubuntu/linux fine? have you applied some tweaks to your xorg conf or something? | 14:04 |
| optx | DarkMageZ: u got hardy running ? | 14:04 |
| hit | didn't have any problems with gutsy and xorg conf should be quite default | 14:05 |
| DarkMageZ | optx, yeah. it's stable here. | 14:05 |
| hit | conf is quite small also imo.. | 14:05 |
| optx | hmm k gonna check a other release .. | 14:06 |
| optx | couldnt even boot the 64bit one :( | 14:06 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, i'm out of ideas. maybe poke the guys in #radeon or #xorg. get some debugging happening =D | 14:06 |
| hit | DarkMageZ, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49415/ | 14:06 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, you might also want to apply this to your xorg.conf | 14:09 |
| DarkMageZ | Section "ServerFlags" | 14:09 |
| DarkMageZ | Option "NoTrapSignals" "true" | 14:09 |
| DarkMageZ | EndSection | 14:09 |
| hit | which is...? | 14:09 |
| DarkMageZ | it disables xorg's own debug handling and will properly crash (so the ubuntu crash handler can do it's work) | 14:10 |
| hit | sounds good | 14:10 |
| DarkMageZ | which reminds me to do it to my own xorg.conf ? | 14:10 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, please do attempt to get this debugged. i'd hate to see yet another bug like that slip into yet another release. | 14:13 |
| DarkMageZ | anyways. i'm out. it's 1:13am here =D | 14:14 |
| hit | 4:14pm :p | 14:14 |
| hit | i've searched ubuntuforums and there are some threads about the same issue | 14:14 |
| hit | some of them had found fixes to it, but they're not working for me | 14:15 |
| === bigon is now known as bigon` | ||
| DarkMageZ | yeah, it's not good for them to hack around the problem. i believe these things shouldn't happen (if possible) in the first place. | 14:15 |
| DarkMageZ | especially with a critical component such as xorg | 14:16 |
| DarkMageZ | hit, yeah, it's not good for them to hack around the problem. i believe these things shouldn't happen (if possible) in the first place. especially with a critical component such as xorg. | 14:17 |
| hit | yep | 14:18 |
| DarkMageZ | anyways, i'm out. laters. good luck. | 14:18 |
| DreadKnight | hey, the PPA kde4 repository from launchad is 'better' than the packages from kubuntu 7.10/8.04? | 14:29 |
| DreadKnight | i mean better as in "more updated" :\ | 14:30 |
| === Knofi_ is now known as Knofi | ||
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| === bigon is now known as bigon` | ||
| DreadKnight | i got kubuntu hardy, i want to install kde4, but seems the packages from ppa are broken (dependencies issues) | 17:22 |
| DreadKnight | can anyone give me some tips on how to install kde4? :| | 17:23 |
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| Artimus | I've got the Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 2 ISO booted in a VM with a blank partition table. I can click ok to make a partition table, but there's no option to create partitions... Am I missing a step here, or is it head-to-launchpad time? | 17:38 |
| === bigon is now known as bigon` | ||
| Mohero | Hi all | 18:06 |
| JohnFlux | Anyone know what's with the kubuntu LTS being dropped at the last moment? | 18:32 |
| JohnFlux | The next Kubuntu LTS seems to have been pushed back to 2010 | 18:32 |
| Dr_willis | I would guess they wanted to play it safe? :) | 18:36 |
| Dr_willis | Linux is growing/evoloving so fast lately.. its scary | 18:36 |
| Tomcat_ | Who cares... it's necessary to have LTS versions. : ) | 18:44 |
| conn | hi, does anyone notice very sluggish gtk menu speed? For example, click on the "Applications" menu and navigate to "Places" and "System"; it's very sluggish on my systems. Gutsy didn't have this problem | 18:46 |
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| nixternal | anyone have issues when using the restricted ati driver (fglrx)? i just selected it in the restricted driver manager and now I don't get anything, just a blank screen | 19:04 |
| DanaG | It might be the new CFS scheduler in 2.6.24. | 19:06 |
| crdlb | it might also be the new fglrx :) | 19:06 |
| DanaG | I've noticed sluggishness on my system, too. | 19:06 |
| Artimus | nixternal: I had to break down and install it manually on a friend's box | 19:13 |
| Artimus | Oh, wait, wrong channel. I had to manually install it in Gutsy... | 19:14 |
| Artimus | No way would I put Hardy on someone else's box. | 19:14 |
| travkin | Hello guys. | 19:14 |
| Artimus | Also, who's idea was it to make it another "H" release? I keep calling it Hoary | 19:14 |
| travkin | GTK+ themes doesn't work under KDE | 19:14 |
| travkin | i get the rather ugly default unthemed GTK+ look | 19:14 |
| travkin | in all GTK applications | 19:15 |
| travkin | what to do? | 19:15 |
| travkin | i tried to choose theme in gtk-qt config page | 19:15 |
| travkin | in system-settings | 19:15 |
| travkin | but its doesnt work | 19:15 |
| travkin | tried to add a new user, but i got same results. | 19:15 |
| DanaG | Gaack, my fonts are all color-fringey! | 19:26 |
| Artimus | Yes, and the fonts look horrible at 800x600 :P | 19:27 |
| DanaG | What happened to my legacy lcdfilter? | 19:29 |
| DanaG | Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/100-legacy-subpixel.conf", line 5: invalid constant used : legacy | 19:30 |
| DanaG | Aieee, it's all cleartype-ey! | 19:33 |
| Artimus | kcontrol is broken in Hardy... I miss it :( (I'm not a fan systemsettings, this will be fixed before the day is over...) | 19:57 |
| WorkingOnWis1 | are the repos down right now? | 20:28 |
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| rb2k | did the gpg keys for the hardy packages change? | 21:13 |
| Dr_willis | WorkingOnWis1, ive heard a few others ask that as well.. I wonder if some of the servers may be down. theres not a lot of people asking. | 21:13 |
| rb2k | I get errors when trying to upgrad to hardy | 21:13 |
| rb2k | (from 7.10) | 21:13 |
| DanaG | Sometime servers can be flaky, and sometimes there can be dependency conflicts. | 21:20 |
| rb2k | but with the standard upgrad procedure too?! | 21:21 |
| DanaG | I usually use Aptitude for nearly everything. | 21:21 |
| DanaG | What kind of errors are you getting? (describe, don't paste.) | 21:21 |
| rb2k | uhm... approximately something like "Can't verify those packets: *insert all the packets here* " | 21:22 |
| DanaG | Aah, try re-updating package lists. | 21:22 |
| DanaG | That usually happens if a connection dies during a package-list update. | 21:22 |
| rb2k | nope, tried several times :) | 21:22 |
| rb2k | including apt-get updates in between | 21:22 |
| DanaG | aah. | 21:23 |
| rb2k | no MD5/SHA1 errors | 21:23 |
| rb2k | simply signing errors afaik | 21:23 |
| DanaG | Hmm. | 21:23 |
| DanaG | Gaack, and I can't find the CD drive in Wine apps. | 22:44 |
| tumbleweed__ | DanaG : you have to add the cd drive manually in winecfg | 23:29 |
| DanaG | I did, but the next time I open winecfg, it's not there. | 23:30 |
| tumbleweed__ | huh | 23:31 |
| DanaG | And the "d::" symlink is still there in ~/.wine/dosdevices | 23:36 |
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