| troy_s | <rainwalker> is there a set release when hardy's new theme will be used? | 00:01 |
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| troy_s | No. Ultimately it must pass up the channels and be decided upon. | 00:01 |
| troy_s | <rainwalker> who actually decides what theme to use? does the design team have a vote or something? | 00:01 |
| troy_s | Ultimately? That would be sabdfl (Mark Shuttleworth). | 00:02 |
| troy_s | Vote? No. | 00:02 |
| rainwalker | Mark makes the final decision? I didn't know that | 00:02 |
| troseph | Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life. Nice. | 00:05 |
| tretle | hey | 01:31 |
| troy_s | tretle: Ho. | 01:34 |
| tretle | till a big debate over the new theme? | 01:35 |
| tretle | till - still | 01:35 |
| troy_s | tretle: Not really. | 01:35 |
| troy_s | tretle: The pointless discussion comes out of a lack of a clearly stated audience, concept, etc. | 01:35 |
| troy_s | tretle: It is a complete cyclical waste of time up to that point. | 01:35 |
| tretle | lol | 01:36 |
| tretle | What about that mockup then... the very brown one that makes use of compositing by the looks of it | 01:36 |
| tretle | would it even be sane to think that a theme like that could be implemented in time for hardys release | 01:37 |
| tretle | when breakthroughs in compositing with themes are only really just happening now | 01:38 |
| troy_s | tretle: Spot on. | 01:39 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I don't think sabdfl has a history of wanting to push the envelope, visually | 01:39 |
| DanaG | Right now I'm using this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/jellyfish?content=69939 (the Aurora variant). I miss orange, but that theme doesn't work in orange. | 01:39 |
| troy_s | tretle: Not to mention questioning the validity of the rather lacking 'concept' and other minor details such as icon set pairing, font, etc. | 01:39 |
| BHSPitMonkey | though I do remember hearing that hardy was going to be a major step | 01:39 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: 100% correct. The only 'major step' has been a push from Ken (Wimer). Whether that happens is a whole other question. | 01:40 |
| tretle | hopefully | 01:41 |
| troy_s | DanaG: I would argue that from the standpoint of someone completely unfamiliar with Ubuntu there is little difference between that and whatever else GTK is already in place. | 01:41 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I get the feeling that the visual presentation is going to be similar to how it's always been for a long, long time | 01:41 |
| troy_s | tretle: Doubtful if I look to history and experience... but we shall see. | 01:41 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: Yes. Ultimately it is a byproduct of sabdfl's taste (yikes) and that will always be the case until he choses to either mature or bet on risk. | 01:42 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I don't think it's his taste | 01:42 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: I do. He has zero clue. | 01:43 |
| tretle | well wasnt there an update a few hours ago with the compositing hack included but switched off for default | 01:43 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I think it's him being conservative | 01:43 |
| BHSPitMonkey | and willfully keeping things simple | 01:43 |
| BHSPitMonkey | read: boring | 01:43 |
| DanaG | I tried the compositing Metacity, and boy are those grey rectangles on alt-tab ugly. | 01:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | not wanting to risk doing something to throw off the growth of the software | 01:44 |
| DanaG | If they'd keep the regular alt-tab behavior, that'd be better. | 01:44 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: He is indeed conservative. And worse, it appears he bases his creative knowledge on 'what the other kid is doing'. Look no further than bug 1. | 01:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 01:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | which, frankly, I don't understand; Ubuntu already gets picked on left and right for its appearance (from morons, albeit, but still) | 01:44 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: He is a genius in many respects and I completely am envious of his mind and abilities. Innovation and creativity however, I'd suggest he is lacking both formal knowledge and the ability to risk. | 01:45 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: Perhaps ultimately it is all about a level of 'care'. Steve Jobs cares about the fine arts. Shuttleworth seems rather agnostic. | 01:46 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: And the results show. | 01:46 |
| tretle | so do u all think the theme will stay unchanged? | 01:54 |
| troy_s | tretle: If I were betting in Las Vegas, I would bet against change, yes. | 01:59 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yeah | 02:04 |
| BHSPitMonkey | those tech industry bookies are hard to come by though | 02:04 |
| tretle | lol | 02:06 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: You clever bugger. | 02:43 |
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