| armin76 | Ubulette: http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ffdialog.png | 00:02 |
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| armin76 | works fine with the binary from mozilla.org | 00:03 |
| Ubulette | what was that ? | 00:04 |
| armin76 | that shows up after filling an username/password form and hitting submit | 00:06 |
| armin76 | maybe it's cairo's fault | 00:07 |
| armin76 | i'll try tomorrow with the bundled one | 00:07 |
| Ubulette | any site I can test ? i've tried to login on tvrage.com (I don't have a login there so I used random stuff), I'm getting the usual bar "Do you want firefox to remember this password" + 2 buttons | 00:08 |
| Ubulette | it's not a dialog, but a bar | 00:09 |
| armin76 | that screenshot was from gmail | 00:09 |
| armin76 | with the binary from mozilla i get the same as you said | 00:10 |
| armin76 | so maybe it's something i build externally, like cairo | 00:10 |
| Ubulette | i'm using external cairo too | 00:10 |
| Ubulette | but this has nothing to do with cairo | 00:11 |
| armin76 | we'll see tomorrow, night :) | 00:11 |
| Ubulette | 'night | 00:12 |
| asac | Ubulette: please shed some light on what --enable-startup-notifcation does ... for me it doesn't do anything except linking against libstartup-notification | 01:34 |
| asac | no includes enywhwere | 01:35 |
| asac | appears like a hoax | 01:35 |
| Ubulette | it's requested by some users. it shows a notification when you start an app | 01:36 |
| asac | hmm | 01:36 |
| asac | ok | 01:36 |
| asac | its used in GtkWidget.cpp | 01:36 |
| asac | ok | 01:36 |
| Ubulette | i've read the code, it's in xul only so ff3 inherits it | 01:36 |
| asac | yes sure ... but please check back before adding new depends of the core package | 01:37 |
| Ubulette | sorry for the missing builddep, i was stuck by your nss/nspr~1.9 | 01:37 |
| asac | doesn't look like it can be modularized like gnome | 01:37 |
| asac | no thats not a problem ... the problem is adding a new binary depends | 01:37 |
| asac | (not a big problem in this case either) | 01:37 |
| asac | but i have to check that with people | 01:38 |
| Ubulette | i've built it in my ppa if you care to try | 01:38 |
| asac | maybe xubuntu people or fluxbuntu people will hit me because of tusch a thing ... you know | 01:38 |
| Ubulette | it's hardy, we can still disable it | 01:39 |
| Ubulette | +later | 01:39 |
| Ubulette | +if it hurts more than it brings | 01:39 |
| Ubulette | btw, your nss is NEW | 01:39 |
| asac | well ... better check that first ... if nobody has a problem we don't need to wake up the devil ;) | 01:39 |
| asac | yeah that was expected | 01:39 |
| Ubulette | yep, soname | 01:40 |
| asac | where is the bug that asks for startup-notification? | 01:41 |
| Ubulette | no bug, got that from users who tried my rc1 preview | 01:42 |
| Ubulette | they recompiled it just for that | 01:43 |
| asac | yeah ... i think its all ok ... just want to raise awareness that adding depends to xulrunner-1.9 core binary should be considered twice and we should definitly have a bug for these kind of extensions to track the argument. | 01:44 |
| asac | after all i want xulrunner to be everywhere ... its not the most lightweight application, but i don't want to blow it up | 01:45 |
| asac | otherwise people will always ask for "replace this here and there with something slink as webkit" ... bla bla ble | 01:45 |
| Ubulette | i've checked | 01:45 |
| asac | what did you check? | 01:46 |
| Ubulette | it just drags libstartup-notification0 in dep | 01:46 |
| asac | yeah ... but that might be too much for some | 01:46 |
| asac | its a _new_ dep | 01:46 |
| asac | every new dep has to be carefully selected | 01:46 |
| asac | otherwise we will blow this off ... if things can be done in a component there is no need to argue ... just package it as its own package ... done. | 01:46 |
| asac | anyway ... this is done | 01:47 |
| Ubulette | yep bug this dep is part of ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, xubuntu-desktop, gobuntu-desktop so i figure it was safe | 01:47 |
| asac | if someone complains we can revert | 01:47 |
| Ubulette | s/bug/but/ | 01:47 |
| Ubulette | btw, you're the master, I can't push without you so feel free to drop | 01:48 |
| asac | no ... i like new ideas :) ... just like them more if things get a bug :) | 01:48 |
| asac | so you say its in all seeds? | 01:49 |
| asac | i will ask joejaxx if its also in fluxbuntu ... then it should be no problem | 01:49 |
| Ubulette | well it's in all Tasks | 01:50 |
| asac | ok i asked for bin NEWing ... its weekend so it might take a bit though | 01:52 |
| asac | our main bug is now: mozilla bug 408791 | 01:52 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 408791 in Password Manager "nsLoginManagerPrompter.js does not work with TestGtkEmbed prompt." [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408791 | 01:52 |
| asac | if we don't get a fix soon, we need to revert ephy to allow people to do HTTP auth again :) | 01:53 |
| asac | chpe's evaluation looks a bit unclear though | 01:55 |
| asac | lets see ... maybe i understand before nss is newed :) | 01:56 |
| Ubulette | mozilla bug 408238 | 01:57 |
| [reed] | you all should tie in dbus notification to Firefox | 01:57 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 408238 in Embedding: GTK Widget "back out unreviewed microb changes." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408238 | 01:57 |
| [reed] | mozilla bug 404738 :) | 01:58 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 404738 in OS Integration "Use dbus notification daemon to show alerts/notifications on the desktop" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404738 | 01:58 |
| Ubulette | asac, i've built trunk and because of this, your microb packages are dropped | 01:58 |
| asac | Ubulette: ? | 01:59 |
| asac | my microb packages? | 01:59 |
| Ubulette | bz404634_att290373.patch and bz373196_att281782.patch | 01:59 |
| asac | mozilla bug 404634 ... mozilla bug 373196 | 02:00 |
| Ubulette | patches | 02:00 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 404634 in Embedding: GRE Core "http urls don't render in TestGtkEmbed" [Critical,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404634 | 02:00 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 373196 in Embedding: GTK Widget "text selection with the mouse not working" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373196 | 02:00 |
| asac | Ubulette: ok thanks ... is it fixed too? or just doesn't apply? | 02:00 |
| Ubulette | no, they reverted all changes to Nov 2006 | 02:00 |
| asac | right ... but i don't know if it worked before Nov | 02:01 |
| asac | :) | 02:01 |
| asac | does ephy still work? | 02:01 |
| asac | does yelp work? | 02:01 |
| Ubulette | no idea, i'm not yet running this xul | 02:01 |
| asac | ah ok | 02:02 |
| Ubulette | i've built it | 02:02 |
| asac | ok, lets keep it on the radar | 02:02 |
| Ubulette | i'm waiting for my ppa to finish ff3 b2 | 02:02 |
| Ubulette | yep, it's in .head already | 02:02 |
| asac | [reed]: doesn't thunderbird already show notifications of some kind? | 02:03 |
| Ubulette | oh, sugar is in NEW src | 02:04 |
| asac | what is sugar? | 02:04 |
| Ubulette | one more xul1.9 app | 02:04 |
| Ubulette | remember olpc ? | 02:04 |
| asac | ah right | 02:05 |
| asac | great ... good for edubuntu i guess | 02:05 |
| [reed] | asac: not with the native dbus notification | 02:05 |
| [reed] | for non-Mac OSes, we use a gecko-only notification thing | 02:06 |
| [reed] | For Linux, we should be passing off to dbus | 02:06 |
| [reed] | on Mac, we pass off to Growl | 02:06 |
| asac | [reed]: not sure if every desktop has a dbus client for notfications | 02:06 |
| [reed] | well, it'll fall back to the gecko-based one | 02:06 |
| [reed] | if that fails | 02:07 |
| [reed] | (that's what Mac does if Growl isn't installed) | 02:07 |
| Ubulette | [reed], any change that patch is committed before b3 ? | 02:09 |
| Ubulette | chance | 02:09 |
| [reed] | what patch? | 02:09 |
| Ubulette | dbus | 02:09 |
| asac | Ubulette: there isn't a patch from what i see so far | 02:09 |
| [reed] | there's not one yet for what I'm talking about | 02:09 |
| [reed] | we already integrate with dbus for online/offline checking | 02:09 |
| [reed] | (new in Firefox 3) | 02:10 |
| [reed] | so, the framework is mostly there | 02:10 |
| [reed] | just needs somebody to write the notification part to send stuff off to dbus | 02:10 |
| Ubulette | i've added dbus a few weeks ago for mozilla bug 388743 | 02:11 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 388743 in Build Config "build dbus on linux by default (--enable-dbus) to auto-detect online/offline state" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388743 | 02:11 |
| asac | yad | 02:11 |
| Ubulette | asac, you reviewed that right ? | 02:12 |
| Ubulette | is was just a builddep, not a flag | 02:12 |
| Ubulette | it | 02:12 |
| asac | he? | 02:12 |
| asac | at least it appears to be a shared lib ... so we could move it to gnome-support or something | 02:12 |
| asac | dbusservice | 02:12 |
| Ubulette | dbus isn't everywhere ? | 02:13 |
| Ubulette | it's started even before X | 02:13 |
| Ubulette | it's hal->dbus->gdm | 02:13 |
| asac | no .... its not about having dbus everywhere ... its about not having a client everywhere ... and in this case its about not having NetworkManager everywhere | 02:14 |
| Ubulette | NetworkManager ? eh? | 02:14 |
| asac | but if its smart enough then fine | 02:14 |
| asac | to auto-detect online/offline state == ask network manager through dbus | 02:15 |
| asac | anyway, i think we should give it a try | 02:15 |
| asac | see how it behaves on non-nm systems | 02:16 |
| Ubulette | what about the backport bug for gutsy? | 02:18 |
| asac | b1 wasn't good enough because of the bad toolbar | 02:19 |
| asac | b2 will go up i guess | 02:19 |
| asac | at least it looks promissing | 02:19 |
| Ubulette | btw, the dbus thing was already in our b1 | 02:22 |
| asac | then when did it sink? | 02:22 |
| asac | ok its implicitly defined ... then fine | 02:23 |
| Ubulette | good thing is now, firefox is supra easy to maintain. | 02:30 |
| asac | thats true | 02:30 |
| asac | package is pretty good now that we don't even have problems with system-nspr/nss | 02:31 |
| asac | and of course all is on xul :) | 02:31 |
| asac | but xul package is getting better as well. | 02:32 |
| Ubulette | ok, my ppa is ready, upgrading... | 02:45 |
| Ubulette | totem also needs to be xulified | 02:46 |
| Ubulette | i'm still running the hack i've made 6 months ago | 02:46 |
| asac | Ubulette: totem is xulified | 02:51 |
| asac | there is a patch in bzr | 02:51 |
| asac | will be uploaded soonish | 02:51 |
| Ubulette | i mean in hardy | 02:51 |
| asac | yes | 02:51 |
| Ubulette | then it should also install the plugins at the right place | 02:52 |
| Ubulette | does it ? | 02:52 |
| asac | sure ... figure out how to fix the lookup | 02:52 |
| asac | i think my patch also has example debian/ modifications | 02:52 |
| asac | but not sure | 02:53 |
| asac | its documented in wiki where to install ... but not all places documented there are actually considered ;) | 02:53 |
| Ubulette | ok, b2 is nice. moving to b3 now | 03:06 |
| Ubulette | good too | 03:20 |
| Ubulette | going to bed now. 'night | 03:21 |
| asac | b | 03:21 |
| asac | ye | 03:21 |
| asac | me 2 | 03:21 |
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| armin76 | i wonder when they're going to put the nspr-4.6.8 tarballs | 10:52 |
| armin76 | and nss 3.11.8 | 10:52 |
| armin76 | shrug | 11:29 |
| armin76 | so something is broken on sparc after b1 | 11:29 |
| armin76 | that, or some external dep i added after b1 is broken on sparc... | 11:34 |
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| armin76 | Ubulette: the gnome thing doesn't work, it still moves | 15:06 |
| Ubulette | i don't know what to say, for me, it doesn't | 15:07 |
| * armin76 makes a ubuntu chroot | 15:09 | |
| Ubulette | i'm using metacity, no autoraise, no raise_on_click, focus_mode = mouse | 15:09 |
| Ubulette | (it's far from the default) | 15:09 |
| armin76 | i hope 8G is enough | 15:10 |
| Ubulette | just boot on a live cd, should be enough | 15:11 |
| Ubulette | oh, the new compositing_manager in metacity is great :) | 15:12 |
| armin76 | Ubulette: heh | 16:11 |
| armin76 | Ubulette: around? | 16:12 |
| Ubulette | yep | 16:15 |
| armin76 | have vncviewer installed? | 16:15 |
| Ubulette | why? | 16:16 |
| armin76 | so you can reproduce it | 16:17 |
| armin76 | i'm using firefox-3.0 %s and doesn't fix it | 16:19 |
| Ubulette | well, i trust you have the issue, but i don't know why | 16:19 |
| armin76 | maybe you wanted to try to change some gnome config :) but okay | 16:22 |
| armin76 | i have nfc about gnome, so... | 16:23 |
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| Ubulette | damn, because of the mass microb back out, xul b3pre is no longer working for miro | 18:05 |
| asac | yeah ... does respinning gnome + miro work? | 18:27 |
| Ubulette | respinning gnome ? | 18:46 |
| Ubulette | [reed], what's left to commit on the gnome/gtk integration front ? same for kde (if any) ? | 19:04 |
| [reed] | hmm, still more new icons to land | 19:04 |
| [reed] | most of the Tango stuff isn't done yet | 19:04 |
| [reed] | nothing done for kde | 19:05 |
| [reed] | (we aren't doing anything for kde) | 19:05 |
| [reed] | and there are some other patches waiting for review, I think | 19:05 |
| [reed] | are there places that you think we need to work on? | 19:06 |
| [reed] | or emphasize? | 19:06 |
| [reed] | I mean, you're the real Linux people | 19:14 |
| [reed] | you need to let us know what you want/need | 19:14 |
| [reed] | :) | 19:14 |
| Ubulette | i'm curious. I initially disliked the new icons, now i love them | 19:17 |
| armin76 | lottery winning numbers prediction! | 19:17 |
| Ubulette | a small glitch though: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/forward.png | 19:17 |
| Ubulette | (the bottom is there, there was a yellow balloon hidding it but not visible in the screenshot) | 19:18 |
| [reed] | Ubulette: file that? | 19:19 |
| Ubulette | hm, no :p | 19:19 |
| [reed] | please file bugs when you see them! | 19:19 |
| [reed] | or we can't fix them | 19:19 |
| armin76 | Ubulette: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408373 | 19:38 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 408373 in Password Manager "Typo in a comment in nsLoginManagerPrompter.js" [Trivial,Verified: fixed] | 19:38 |
| armin76 | that was the problem i had | 19:38 |
| armin76 | http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ffdialog.png | 19:38 |
| armin76 | that | 19:38 |
| Ubulette | [reed], which section should i use ? os.integration ? | 19:47 |
| [reed] | Core :: Widget: Gtk | 19:48 |
| [reed] | since that's probably a gtk integration problem | 19:48 |
| [reed] | rather than a Firefox-specific issue | 19:48 |
| Ubulette | damn, I can't change product | 19:50 |
| Ubulette | i'll change it afterwards | 19:52 |
| Ubulette | [reed], I see core but I can't find widget / gtk. Please change it: mozilla bug 409655 | 19:53 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 409655 in OS Integration "[gtk2] foward/backward buttons" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409655 | 19:53 |
| Ubulette | oh, done | 19:54 |
| [reed] | :) | 19:54 |
| Ubulette | mozilla bug 409655 | 19:55 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 409655 in Widget: Gtk "[gtk2] forward/backward buttons" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409655 | 19:55 |
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| CheGuevara | w000t Ubulette_ | 20:52 |
| CheGuevara | the icons on KDE are back :P | 20:52 |
| Ubulette_ | good | 20:52 |
| CheGuevara | very :) | 20:52 |
| CheGuevara | they are so gnomish though :P | 20:52 |
| Ubulette_ | you can thank asac, he fixed it by moving one lib from the gnome-support deb to the main one | 20:53 |
| Ubulette_ | now that it's possible at runtime | 20:53 |
| Ubulette_ | it was not possible before | 20:53 |
| CheGuevara | thank you asac :) | 20:53 |
| CheGuevara | are these the icons staying or are they still gonna chem them upstream? | 20:54 |
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| CheGuevara | oh they are the gtk native icons | 20:57 |
| Ubulette_ | yes | 20:58 |
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| CheGuevara | ff3 windows icons look nice | 21:01 |
| cosmodad | hi all -- can anyone explain to me why movemail support has been removed from the Gutsy package of Thunderbird? See also this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/148942 | 21:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148942 in thunderbird "thunderbird 2.0 not compiled with UNIX (movemail) acccount option." [Undecided,New] | 21:01 |
| cosmodad | and if this bugs seems to be worthwhile fixing, when will someone be assigned to it? | 21:03 |
| cosmodad | The bug has been around for liek 2 months. I'm not sure about your human resources... | 21:03 |
| Ubulette | seems it's no longer supported upstream | 21:17 |
| Ubulette | MOZ_MOVEMAIL was in aviary (ie 1.7) but not in 1.8 (tb2) nor 1.9 (tb3) | 21:18 |
| Ubulette | well, aviary is pre 1.7 | 21:21 |
| Ubulette | nm, it's still there | 21:23 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: how'd I re-include it myself again? | 21:25 |
| cosmodad | I have downloaded the source package, but cannot find the appropriate switch. | 21:25 |
| cosmodad | Ubuntu source package, that is. | 21:27 |
| Ubulette | there's none. it's supposed to be always there for unix | 21:30 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: the bug-reporter of LP #148942 mentioned that he rebuilt from source and found a movemail account, so apparently it seems to be Ubuntu-specific. | 21:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148942 in thunderbird "thunderbird 2.0 not compiled with UNIX (movemail) acccount option." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148942 | 21:31 |
| cosmodad | specifically, from official Mozilla source. | 21:32 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: so any idea on what the fault could be? | 21:32 |
| Ubulette | yep, movemail.rdf is built but not installed in the debs | 21:33 |
| Ubulette | it's built in dist/bin/isp/movemail.rdf but missed at install time | 21:34 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: ok so apparently, these lines from Feisty/TB seems to be missed in Gutsy/TB: | 21:36 |
| cosmodad | mozilla-thunderbird.install:build-dir/mozilla/mailnews/base/ispdata/movemail.rdf usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/isp | 21:36 |
| cosmodad | mozilla-thunderbird.install:build-dir/mozilla/mailnews/base/ispdata/movemail.rdf usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/isp/US | 21:36 |
| cosmodad | it's clear I need to re-insert the first one, but what is the latter one responsible? localization? | 21:37 |
| cosmodad | responsible for | 21:37 |
| Ubulette | you need both | 21:39 |
| Ubulette | but not sure about usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird vs usr/lib/thunderbird | 21:39 |
| cosmodad | that's fine and due to the Debian package building process. | 21:39 |
| cosmodad | files get installed relative to the base building directory. | 21:40 |
| cosmodad | afterwards, they are moved into the real FS root. | 21:40 |
| cosmodad | again, is the isp/US for localization purposes? I'm asking because I'm in need of a German locale version. | 21:41 |
| cosmodad | oh sorry I got your last statement wrong. | 21:43 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: it should be thunderbird in the new package due to the renaming. | 21:43 |
| Ubulette | yes | 21:45 |
| Ubulette | i can do a debdiff but it's a mess as gutsy is ahead of hardy | 21:46 |
| Ubulette | seems hardy is far from up-to-date... 2.0.0.6 vs 2.0.0.11 | 21:46 |
| CheGuevara | huh | 21:48 |
| CheGuevara | i got .10 on hardy | 21:48 |
| Ubulette | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/thunderbird | 21:50 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: can you see whether hardy re-includes movemail? | 21:50 |
| CheGuevara | oh thunderbir | 21:52 |
| CheGuevara | duh | 21:52 |
| CheGuevara | was thinking firefox | 21:52 |
| Ubulette | cosmodad, it doesn't | 21:53 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: ok. Do you know who will be assigned to this bug? It should be fixed by the release of hardy, shouldn't it? | 21:54 |
| Ubulette | it will | 21:55 |
| Ubulette | now that the cause is known | 21:55 |
| Ubulette | cosmodad, uploaders are on holidays so let's way a bit more. if you know how to create a deb, you should have no problem fixing it locally | 21:56 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: ok. Yeah, I know how to build deb packages. Just have to figure out how the new TB 2.0 file system hierarchy differs. | 21:59 |
| cosmodad | compared to 1.5 | 21:59 |
| \sh | Ubulette, hmm? you say that tb in hardy is older then the gutsy tb? | 22:00 |
| Ubulette | yes | 22:01 |
| \sh | hmm...that shouldn't be the deafult... | 22:01 |
| Ubulette | indeed | 22:01 |
| Ubulette | hardy: thunderbird 2.0.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 22:01 |
| Ubulette | gutsy: thunderbird 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 | 22:02 |
| \sh | well..somehow I trggered a bug on ELP | 22:02 |
| Ubulette | it's a security update | 22:02 |
| \sh | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/thunderbird/+changelog should show hardy changelog | 22:02 |
| Ubulette | yep | 22:04 |
| \sh | bug #178352 yay | 22:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178352 in launchpad "LP doesn't honour the distro release when grabbing the changelog of a package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178352 | 22:08 |
| cosmodad | Ubulette: how did you figure out where movemail.rdf is built? | 22:09 |
| cosmodad | if you did at all... | 22:09 |
| Ubulette | from the logs | 22:10 |
| Ubulette | and from reading sources too | 22:11 |
| cosmodad | the TB package is too big for my deb-building skills... | 22:15 |
| Ubulette | tb is not something i maintain myself but i do similar things so it was not difficult | 22:17 |
| cosmodad | I think it's due to cdbs, never used that before. | 22:17 |
| Ubulette | not only. all mozilla packages are more complex than the average | 22:20 |
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| cosmodad | I'll keep trying later. Thanks for all the help. | 22:21 |
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