| Ahmuck | in ubuntu server, i want to set the domain name. that would not be set in hostname would it? | 00:53 |
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| nealmcb | Ahmuck: that has always been a bit confusing. it may get picked up from /etc/hosts based on IP | 01:10 |
| nealmcb | but different apps probably handle it differently. is this for mail? apache? | 01:10 |
| Ahmuck | system wide, one apache, one mail, dns, etc. | 01:12 |
| nealmcb | Ahmuck: well no guarantees that they all take it from /etc/hosts but I think that is a good place to start | 01:13 |
| Ahmuck | k, thx, i'll look at it | 01:14 |
| nealmcb | the way mine was set up after install was with this line for fqdn - note it is not 127.0.0.1...: 127.0.1.1 mine.example.org mine | 01:17 |
| nealmcb | and also this 127.0.0.1 localhost | 01:18 |
| Ahmuck | u know i am using a version of *buntu as my desktop, but the hosts file has nothing about the domain in it. something like "hostname.domainame" | 01:21 |
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| peanutb | does anyone have knowlage of getting a dhcp server up to serv thin clients | 05:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | peanutb, any standards compatible server should work | 08:07 |
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| Ahmuck | on the ubuntu-JeOS server, upon using tasksel, after the "server type" such as LAMP, etc. is installed, it never returns to a prompt, and requires a reboot. i assume that i am not the only one experiencing this | 19:12 |
| peanutb | Ahmuck: im trying an install right now. Ill tell you if i run into the same problem | 19:43 |
| peanutb | hmm | 19:43 |
| peanutb | i just get an aptitude failed | 19:44 |
| Ahmuck | peanutb: just run tasksel. sudo tasksel | 19:44 |
| peanutb | exactly what i am doing | 19:44 |
| Ahmuck | on the server side, ubuntu, it runs through everything, but never dumps to a prompt on my older machines | 19:45 |
| peanutb | "tasksel: aptitude failed (100) | 19:51 |
| peanutb | ' | 19:51 |
| Ahmuck | in a vm? | 19:51 |
| peanutb | no | 19:52 |
| peanutb | its a regualr machine | 19:52 |
| peanutb | running edubuntu but a regular machine | 19:52 |
| Ahmuck | ah, you have ubuntu-JeOS on a regular machine? | 19:52 |
| peanutb | no | 19:52 |
| peanutb | ohh JeOS | 19:52 |
| Ahmuck | ah, ok | 19:52 |
| Ahmuck | yep | 19:52 |
| Ahmuck | i coulld only get JeOS to install into virtual box because ubuntu-server has a default PAE enabled kernel, and virtual box does not yet support PAE | 19:53 |
| peanutb | i have used tasksel on regular server installs in vmware | 19:53 |
| peanutb | and it seemed to work | 19:53 |
| Ahmuck | in fact, i am guessing this is part what prompted ubuntu to do the JeOS version | 19:54 |
| peanutb | i think it was more, we dont need a million display drivers etcv | 19:54 |
| peanutb | and want a smaller image | 19:54 |
| Ahmuck | well, it works, but when the install process is done, it just sat there, never dumped back to the prompt, and required a reset on the machine. i had the same problem with ubuntu-server on my older machines as well yesterday | 19:54 |
| Ahmuck | so i have a blue screen, red progress bar at 100% that just sits there | 19:55 |
| peanutb | yeah | 19:55 |
| peanutb | tasksel seems quite buggy to me | 19:56 |
| Ahmuck | actually, i had the same issue upon reboot of ubuntu-server, never dropping to a prompt, just sitting there after the last task. only drops to a prompt if i hit a key on the keyboard | 19:56 |
| Ahmuck | not sure why | 19:56 |
| Ahmuck | i'm guessing it's the machines problem. | 19:57 |
| Ahmuck | but i did this on five machines of the same config | 19:57 |
| Ahmuck | i do have a question however, why do they advise not changing root? it would seem to me if someone could connect to your *buntu box and you had not changed root, with the default user they could change root password and you would be screwed | 19:59 |
| Ahmuck | the only reason i can think of not changing it is because of apt and configuration issues that are defualt which *buntu has set up to use the root (ubuntu defalt) to setup and configure | 19:59 |
| peanutb | root is disabled | 20:00 |
| peanutb | there is no password | 20:00 |
| peanutb | they suggest not changing it because its simply better to have that extra layer of security of what is that username | 20:00 |
| Ahmuck | yes, but u can set a password on it using su -i | 20:00 |
| Ahmuck | disabled? | 20:00 |
| Ahmuck | so essentially it's not really disabled if you can get to it by su -i correct? | 20:01 |
| peanutb | su -i? | 20:01 |
| peanutb | its login is disabled | 20:01 |
| Ahmuck | ya, try it. drops you to root after you enter your sudo password | 20:01 |
| peanutb | you can still sudo su to it | 20:01 |
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| peanutb | yes. thats the point | 20:01 |
| peanutb | you can have root access | 20:01 |
| Ahmuck | seems like a great opportunity to create a back door user | 20:02 |
| peanutb | at install? | 20:02 |
| peanutb | you have to have sudo rights to be able to set a root password | 20:02 |
| Ahmuck | yes, it would not take much to set up a distro with a user who had sudo rights and then a notifier when it was installed somewhere | 20:03 |
| peanutb | you should MD5 the iso or image of whatever you are installing | 20:04 |
| peanutb | and make sure its from a trusted source | 20:04 |
| peanutb | sure its possable to have a back door | 20:04 |
| peanutb | but who says you wont just add a user on a regular debian system that has shadow access | 20:04 |
| peanutb | Ahmuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo?highlight=%28sudo%29 has much better reasons | 20:06 |
| Ahmuck | what is the min ubuntu-server will run? i am using 64 on my hard machines and 256 on my vm | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck | nm, i found it | 20:26 |
| Ahmuck | peanutb: installing ubuntu-server with 64mb ram tasksel won't come up, and requires me to run it after installation | 20:34 |
| Ahmuck | which i would have expected | 20:35 |
| Ahmuck | er, which i expected to happen on a low mem mode | 20:39 |
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