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Ahmuck  in ubuntu server, i want to set the domain name.  that would not be set in hostname would it?00:53
nealmcbAhmuck: that has always been a bit confusing.  it may get picked up from /etc/hosts based on IP01:10
nealmcbbut different apps probably handle it differently.  is this for mail? apache?01:10
Ahmucksystem wide, one apache, one mail, dns, etc.01:12
nealmcbAhmuck: well no guarantees that they all take it from /etc/hosts but I think that is a good place to start01:13
Ahmuckk, thx, i'll look at it01:14
nealmcbthe way mine was set up after install was with this line for fqdn - note it is not 127.0.0.1...:    127.0.1.1     mine.example.org mine01:17
nealmcband also this   127.0.0.1      localhost01:18
Ahmucku know i am using a version of *buntu as my desktop, but the hosts file has nothing about the domain in it.  something like "hostname.domainame"01:21
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peanutbdoes anyone have knowlage of getting a dhcp server up to serv thin clients05:52
Kamping_Kaiserpeanutb, any standards compatible server should work08:07
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Ahmuckon the ubuntu-JeOS server, upon using tasksel, after the "server type" such as LAMP, etc. is installed, it never returns to a prompt, and requires a reboot.  i assume that i am not the only one experiencing this19:12
peanutbAhmuck: im trying an install right now. Ill tell you if i run into the same problem19:43
peanutbhmm19:43
peanutbi just get an aptitude failed19:44
Ahmuckpeanutb: just run tasksel.  sudo tasksel19:44
peanutbexactly what i am doing19:44
Ahmuckon the server side, ubuntu, it runs through everything, but never dumps to a prompt on my older machines19:45
peanutb"tasksel: aptitude failed (100)19:51
peanutb'19:51
Ahmuckin a vm?19:51
peanutbno19:52
peanutbits a regualr machine19:52
peanutbrunning edubuntu but a regular machine19:52
Ahmuckah, you have ubuntu-JeOS on a regular machine?19:52
peanutbno19:52
peanutbohh JeOS19:52
Ahmuckah, ok19:52
Ahmuckyep19:52
Ahmucki coulld only get JeOS to install into virtual box because ubuntu-server has a default PAE enabled kernel, and virtual box does not yet support  PAE19:53
peanutbi have used tasksel on regular server installs in vmware19:53
peanutband it seemed to work19:53
Ahmuckin fact, i am guessing this is part what prompted ubuntu to do the JeOS version19:54
peanutbi think it was more, we dont need a million display drivers etcv19:54
peanutband want a smaller image19:54
Ahmuckwell, it works, but when the install process is done, it just sat there, never dumped back to the prompt, and required a reset on the machine.  i had the same problem with ubuntu-server on my older machines as well yesterday19:54
Ahmuckso i have a blue screen, red progress bar at 100% that just sits there19:55
peanutbyeah19:55
peanutbtasksel seems quite buggy to me19:56
Ahmuckactually, i had the same issue upon reboot of ubuntu-server, never dropping to a prompt, just sitting there after the last task.  only drops to a prompt if i hit a key on the keyboard19:56
Ahmucknot sure why19:56
Ahmucki'm guessing it's the machines problem.19:57
Ahmuckbut i did this on five machines of the same config19:57
Ahmucki do have a question however, why do they advise not changing root?  it would seem to me if someone could connect to your *buntu box and you had not changed root, with the default user they could change root password and you would be screwed19:59
Ahmuckthe only reason i can think of not changing it is because of apt and configuration issues that are defualt which *buntu has set up to use the root (ubuntu defalt) to setup and configure19:59
peanutbroot is disabled20:00
peanutbthere is no password20:00
peanutbthey suggest not changing it because its simply better to have that extra layer of security of what is that username20:00
Ahmuckyes, but u can set a password on it using su -i20:00
Ahmuckdisabled?20:00
Ahmuckso essentially it's not really disabled if you can get to it by su -i correct?20:01
peanutbsu -i?20:01
peanutbits login is disabled20:01
Ahmuckya, try it.  drops you to root after you enter your sudo password20:01
peanutbyou can still sudo su to it20:01
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peanutbyes. thats the point20:01
peanutbyou can have root access20:01
Ahmuckseems like a great opportunity to create a back door user20:02
peanutbat install?20:02
peanutbyou have to have sudo rights to be able to set a root password20:02
Ahmuckyes, it would not take much to set up a distro with a user who had sudo rights and then a notifier when it was installed somewhere20:03
peanutbyou should MD5 the iso or image of whatever you are installing20:04
peanutband make sure its from a trusted source20:04
peanutbsure its possable to have a back door20:04
peanutbbut who says you wont just add a user on a regular debian system that has shadow access20:04
peanutbAhmuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo?highlight=%28sudo%29 has much better reasons20:06
Ahmuckwhat is the min ubuntu-server will run?  i am using 64 on my hard machines and 256 on my vm20:14
Ahmucknm, i found it20:26
Ahmuckpeanutb: installing ubuntu-server with 64mb ram tasksel won't come up, and requires me to run it after installation20:34
Ahmuckwhich i would have expected20:35
Ahmucker, which i expected to happen on a low mem mode20:39

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