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s34nYoques: you boot up with now password?00:01
s34ns/now/no/00:02
Yoques:-?00:02
s34nYoques: does your pc boot up?00:02
Yoqueswhen I start, automatically enter after 3 seconds in first kernel, and enter directly to desktop00:03
s34nYoques: graphical desktop, yes?00:03
Yoquesyes00:04
s34nyou wrote that your font is too big in "tty"00:04
s34nyou mean in a terminal?00:04
s34nor do you mean in your graphical desktop?00:05
Yoquesin "tty"00:07
s34nYoques: what do you mean by that?00:08
Yoques... Don't understand00:10
Yoqueswhy it succes?00:10
Yoqueswhy i need?00:10
s34nYoques: "tty" means terminal?00:10
Yoquesyes00:11
s34ngnome-terminal?00:11
Yoquesno00:11
Yoquescontrol alt Fx00:11
s34nYoques: don't do that00:11
Yoqueswhy?00:11
s34nYoques: if you want a command line, open gnome-terminal00:12
Yoquessomeone time the sistem fall down, and only can resolve someone problem with control alt F1, F200:13
s34ngnome-terminal will be just another app running under X and manageable as such00:13
s34nYoques: are you resolving a system failture? or just regular use?00:13
* s34n shakes head00:13
Yoquestoo a regular use00:14
s34nI just realized we are talking xubuntu--no gnome00:14
YoquesI like w3m like a ultra-plus... :D00:14
s34nYoques: forget gnome-terminal. use xterm, or whatever you get in the Xfce desktop00:14
Yoquesthe problem is to before today, I have it correct, all was to my preferds options00:15
Yoquesbut today I made a dist-upgrade (mistake, I know) and now it don't works correctly00:16
Yoquesbut I know that's possible00:16
s34nYoques: use xterm inside X, not ctl+alt+f? virtual consoles00:16
Yoqueswhy?00:16
s34nYoques: because then it will be a well-behaved X citizen00:17
s34nyou can manage it, configure it, etc.00:17
Yoques:S00:40
Yoquesthen, no-one possibility to resolve my problem?00:40
CygnetYoques, if no one's answering you in here, try #ubuntu, it gets more traffic00:42
YoquesOK00:42
CygnetI got my nvidia card working and successfully booted xubuntu and reconfigured xserver-xorg but now when I try to startx it goes to the xfce loading screen (with the flashing mouse) and gets stuck there00:48
Cygnetthe mouse stops flashing and it doesn't finish logging in00:49
Ahmuckwhat does LVM do ?02:12
Ahmuckdoes it auto adust, or must one manually adjust?02:12
tonyyarussoHi, I'm looking for ways to tweak Xubuntu.  I have a default install that boots and runs reasonably okay on a P3 (500MHz) with 512 MB of RAM, but a) it could be faster, and b) I have two other computers to do, that have lower specs.02:41
tonyyarussoThe second is a P2 (250-350 MHz I think), but also with 512 MB RAM (I got a box of RAM that happened to fit these two), the third is from the Bronze Age.02:42
tonyyarussoWell, 1990, but close enough.02:42
Ahmucktonyyarusso: i tried xubuntu on that as well on lowerend machines, but moved to a differen *buntu desktop that worked well in low mem/proc configurations02:53
tonyyarussoAhmuck: Flux?02:53
AhmuckE02:53
tonyyarussoAh.  16 or 17?02:54
Ahmuck1702:54
tonyyarussogood choice02:54
Ahmuckubuntu server, xserver-xorg, and e1702:54
tonyyarussoI like E, but I don't think it's most appropriate for this case.02:54
Ahmuckit's about as stripped down as you can get at that point02:54
Ahmucki actually enjoyed e02:54
tonyyarussoThese are donated machines that will be either given away or sold at very low cose to low-income families through a charity thrift store, so I need something that's a) stable, and b) very, very intuitive (many have never had a computer before)02:55
Ahmucki have not tried fluxbuntu on that lower end machine.  i tried it in a vm and am going to wait until it becomes more polished, however it may come in below e for sys requirements02:55
Ahmucktonyyarusso: yes, that is what i have been doing for the last two weeks as well.  picked up 10 ~500Mhz and 128Mb ram for 1.00/machine02:56
Ahmuckwhat they are great at is web servers02:56
tonyyarussoVery true.  I doubt a web server is going to be much help for the kid that just needs to do his homework though :P02:56
Ahmuckheh.  i installed scribus, oo.o writer, and firefox.  at 64mb ram.  it was a challenge, but it did work, though i don't know if i would donate something that low mem02:57
NullNameAnyone know an easy way to use an ssh client with an http proxy?04:11
NullNameOR does anyone know the correct room for me to ask this?04:12
newbieeeis monodevelop works in 256mb ram and in xubuntu?04:42
EdWarbuckerOk, I could use a hand in getting the Forward and Back buttons to work on my Microsoft Intellimouse Optical.  I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons but the only thing that did is disable my scrollwheel...04:42
XwarlokX82EdWarbucker, you aren't the only one... i didn't realize just how valuable those buttons were till i had to do without em.04:48
EdWarbuckerYeah, for so many years I happily ran my mouse cursor up to click on the back button and never thought about it.  But now, every trip up there seems to take an eternity... :)04:50
newbieeeis monodevelop works in 256mb ram and in xubuntu?04:51
newbieeei think all 69 ppl are sleeping here..;)05:09
web_knowsyeah05:10
web_knowsand i think you're right05:10
jjmivyo05:20
EdWarbuckerArg, well, that didn't work either, though at least my scrollwheel works again now.  Is anybody available yet to assist with getting my Forward and Back buttons working on my MS Intellimouse Optical?05:21
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VVeloxAny suggestions for wireless connection managers?06:48
Williamfinaly07:17
Williammy firewall was blocking irc and vpn, so I ended up turning it off07:17
WilliamI am installing xubuntu on an old hp and don't see the menu bars, anyone know the shortcut for the programs menu?07:19
Williamnickserv07:23
NullNameHELP! I'm having trouble monitoring ALL packets going through my wireless adaptor.  I've tried using wireshark, but was wondering if I could monitor a file or something from /dev?  Where is my wireless card running?  How can I view exactly what is going on behind the scenes?07:27
NullNamebummer07:29
newbieeehow do i get my panel back...07:37
newbieeeby mistacally i deleted that from system manager07:38
scizzo-newbieee: think I manage to do that once also07:50
newbieeehow should i do this?07:53
mikubuntudoes anybody know if the cnr software program works with xubuntu?  i have it on my ubuntu machine, but i want to reccomend to my friend that runs x ...08:46
gerroI noticed something odd about xfce4-panel while browsing the web10:27
gerroit seems if there is a picture in the browser and I drag it over to the bar then take it away the bar dissappears and I can move it in and out and the bar goes in and out then it stays down so I have to customize panel to get the bar to come up10:27
gerrohmm maybe I should make a video of this...10:28
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redwyrmhi15:27
redwyrmdoes the window manager (xfwm) in Xubuntu 7.10 have a good "Run" command?15:28
redwyrmlike, does it use tabbing similar to the way bash uses it?15:28
redwyrmactually, wait, it's not the window manager. it's probably some other xfce component15:29
redwyrmbecause I switched to the ion window manager, and I think it sucks _except_ for its Run command15:29
garuhhham installing xubuntu 7.10, it always hangs at the part when detecting CD-ROM,,any idea what's the problem?15:58
gerro!xgl16:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion16:11
gerrodon't really care for compiz or any fancy eye candy just interested in the xgl performance benefits..16:11
gerroanyone know where I can find more about that?16:11
sgronbloHey, running this eeeXubuntu on my new eee PC. I installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras when trying to get youtube to play videos. But it didn't help, so I've tried uninstalling/re-installing both firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. But firefox keeps saying that I don16:13
garuhhhgerro: if imay ask.. what's a XGL?16:13
sgronblot have flash.16:13
gerrogaruhhh: xgl uses video card more so when doing 2d apps and other things16:13
gerrogaruhhh: its an alternative to xorg meant to surpass it in the future16:13
gerroit used to be the only way to have fancy apps for your desktop until xorg caught up a bit16:14
gerroI installed it but nothing is happening and I think I'm still using xorg I'm afraid to reboot....16:15
garuhhhgerro: wow! haven't heard of that...am really new to linux :D16:15
gerrogaruhhh: I think I have to edit some scripts to get it working like I did before. It has a few problems with shading and other things might make certain games crash but overall is a lot more speedier16:18
gerrogaruhhh: you any good with proftpd or lighttpd?16:19
garuhhhgerro: speedier??? hmmm.. that's what i need..16:19
garuhhhgerro: ooopss..haven't heard of them. what are they?16:19
gerrogaruhhh: ftp and http stuff like the name implies trying to setup some web stuff for a few friends16:20
garuhhhgerro: am not really quite of help here :D16:20
gerrogaruhhh: what sort of system you got?16:20
garuhhhgerro: oh.. i see.. ddin't notice the http, and ftp letters:D16:21
garuhhhgerro: naaaah.. all i have is an AMD k6-2..16:21
garuhhhgerro: was on ubuntu, but i was trying xubuntu..16:21
garuhhhgerro: then i encountered this weird "hanging" when detecting CDrom (during installation)16:22
gerroyeah16:22
gerrounplug ethernet when you install that doesn't happen16:22
garuhhhgerro: 500MHz cpu, 256MB ram, 16MB vcard.. quite old!16:22
gerroits towards the end of install right?16:22
garuhhhgerro: actually, i don't have a lan card installed16:22
gerrowireless?16:22
garuhhhgerro: nope,, it's at the start16:23
gerroodd16:23
garuhhhgerro: it's alternative cd, by the way..16:23
gerrowhat vid card is that?16:23
garuhhhgerro: i tried the livecd, it went well, but during installation,the same case16:23
gerroremove the hard drive and install it using the computer your on now16:23
gerrojust be sure your current hard drive isn't still in else will mess up the bootloader on it16:24
garuhhhgerro: the box said, it's a RIVA tnt2 m64, but every OS i install says its an SIS (weird vcard)16:24
gerrooh intel right?16:24
gerrothere was a posting I read some where about that16:24
garuhhhgerro: nope...not an intel..16:24
gerroah I must be thinking mirage one16:24
gerrodoes it have a tv tuner?16:25
garuhhhgerro: nope. no tv tuner16:25
garuhhhgerro: in windows, if the vcard drivers are installed a 32MB card is reported, without the provided drivers installed it's only 16mb16:26
gerroglxinfo | grep direct?16:26
garuhhhgerro: well anyway, it's still in the text mode when it hangs..16:26
garuhhhgerro: when i was in ubuntu, yep i was in direct rendering16:27
gerrokk just checking cause some guy back in february had issue with it on forums16:27
garuhhhgerro: even at ubuntu, it says SiS card...16:28
gerroso?16:28
garuhhhgerro: as far as iknow,it's not an SIS, it's an nvidia, even a sticker on the board says it's a RIVA TNt2 m6416:28
gerrobut is it working?16:28
garuhhhgerro: yep working at 16mb memory, but it's supposed to be 32..16:29
garuhhhgerro: weird eh?16:29
gerroI've had that issue with an ati card16:29
gerroanyway if its an older computer might want to update its bios16:29
garuhhhgerro: what was the culprit?16:29
gerroI have no clue I never fixed it16:30
garuhhhgerro: i already used 2 mobos, and results are the same...16:30
garuhhhgerro: hehe.. you trashed the ati?16:30
gerroyeah it sucked pretty hard, I couldn't log out and had to keep restarting it to switch users, ctrl alt backspace crashed it and couldn't run in anything but 24 color mode16:31
garuhhhgerro: well, me, too,got tired with my videocard, i leard to live with it like that :D16:31
gerroI mean the driver said it was made in 200116:31
garuhhhgerro: oh... in one forum said, ati's are not so good at OPENGL support...that's what linux uses!16:32
gerrogaruhhh: if you want a few tips you might want to try blackbox on that machine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084 with slim instead of gdm16:32
garuhhhgerro: they said, that if you're planning on using linux, asmuchas possible, stay away from ati..that's what they said16:32
gerroturn it down to 16 color in xorg too help it a bit16:32
* gerro mumbles and compaq laptops those demonic toasters16:33
redwyrm"demonic toaster" haha.... that's a pretty apt description of my computer :/16:34
redwyrmlaptop*16:34
garuhhhgerro: i really can't afford "cool" desktops right now...  am on the speed side..16:34
gerrowell my little bro got this discounted floor model laptop it probably had alot of milage and perhaps did get that amd bios virus thingy I heard about *cringe* but whole system died16:34
gerrogaruhhh: your box sounds really nice16:36
garuhhhgerro: anyway,how do i turn off the installation of the module: ide floppy?16:36
garuhhhgerro: me? nice? lol16:36
gerrogaruhhh: you mean remove floppy support?16:36
redwyrmgerro, wait, what? a _BIOS_ virus?16:36
* redwyrm shudders16:36
garuhhhgerro: it's quite old?!16:36
garuhhhgerro: yes..maybesomething like that... in installation proper..16:36
garuhhhgerro: like an installation parameter...16:37
garuhhhgerro: or at least specify what my cdrom is, so it won't scan and probe for what hardware i have..16:37
gerrogaruhhh: if you want to remove floppy support you'd have to recompile the kernel or like remove its module16:37
gerrormmod it some how16:37
gerrolsmod should show it16:37
garuhhhgerro: but haven't installed linux yet..16:37
garuhhhgerro: am still installing when it hangs during cdrom detection16:38
gerroohhh16:38
gerroI had that problem before!16:38
garuhhhgerro: really? how'd you solve it?16:38
gerrobut I couldn't boot live cd or use alternate cd16:38
garuhhhgerro: that never happened tome in 7.0416:38
gerroand the usb was 1.0 and didn't feel like messing with usb install16:38
gerroI ended up running instlux through the old os that was on it16:39
gerrogot 6.06 ubuntu on there16:39
garuhhhgerro: so am stuck with 7.04?16:39
gerroI doubt it16:39
garuhhhgerro: :(16:39
gerroyou said you can use the livecd right?16:39
garuhhhgerro: yep!16:39
gerrothen why doesn't alternate work?16:39
garuhhhgerro: i can... but if i install the livecd on the hdisk, ithangs in the same spot.16:40
gerroperhaps you have a floppy in the drive? that messing up detection?16:40
garuhhhgerro: duringthe installation of themodule : ide floppy16:40
garuhhhgerro: no floppy, even turned off my floppy in the BIOS16:40
gerrothat's booting from the floppy right? that shouldn't matter16:41
garuhhhgerro: nope, boot from cdrom16:41
gerrolook it doesn't really matter cause you said that computer has no network connection yet you have a net connection now right16:41
gerrouse computer your on now to format and install to the others hard drive16:41
gerrothen just reconfigure xorg16:41
garuhhhgerro: am not sure why it even scans formy cdrom.. yet i booted right frommy cd!16:41
garuhhhgerro: am on a friend's pc, can't do anything on her pc...she uses it alot..16:42
gerroyou don't even have to hook your hard drive up to her pc just run an ide cable between it and the other hard drive with her hdd unplugged16:43
garuhhhgerro: won't it have any issue with the hardware if i installed it on other pc, then use the OS on mine?16:43
gerronot at all just will need to know what size monitor and what video card16:43
gerrodpkg-reconfigure xorg-server should take care of that though16:43
garuhhhgerro: oh.. i see..16:43
gerroI would have done that to the laptop but its hard drive was too small and hard to get out think it was super glued16:44
garuhhhgerro: i think an iso install would work on that laptop..16:45
gerrothe whole reason it had a problem with cdrom was that it could slide out and switch between cdrom and floppy16:45
gerrowas weird...16:46
garuhhhgerro: oh.. i've seen one of those before16:48
gerrogaruhhh: want to buy one? damn friend left it over house and still won't take it back too hyped about this ps316:52
garuhhhgerro: oh yeah?! what's the specs?16:52
gerrogaruhhh: hmm think its 1.6ghz and 512mb mem some old nvidia16:53
gerroI got this belkin wireless usb device I was going to pop the hood and see if I can solder it to the thing16:53
garuhhhgerro: wow! that's good enough forme, i'll be interested inanything higher than 500MHz! :d16:53
gerrobecause it doesn't have wireless in it16:53
garuhhhgerro: naaah... don't need wireless now..so it won't hurt me :D16:54
garuhhhgerro: am really in need of a higher specs pc..16:55
garuhhhgerro: atleast in terms of cpu and vcard.16:55
gerrojust plug it into a cellphone or someone elses wireless lappy heck even use a ds gameboy to get wireless16:55
gerroso its all good16:55
gerrogaruhhh: try /join #garuhhh16:56
garuhhhgerro: didn't get that...16:57
gerrogaruhhh: just type it16:57
gerroany idea why task list of firefox has the icon transparent if its minimized?17:43
gerrooh nvm pidgin wasn't minimized that why it wasn't the same17:44
gerroeverything looks odd with this panel size :/17:44
billy_idleCU :)18:48
billy_idleMerry Xmas :D18:48
atarinoxhi, i'm having a problem w/ gutsy...I just installed and everytime I try to adjust network settings everything locks up and I have to do a hard reset...19:00
atarinoxanybody have an idea of what's going on?19:00
redwyrmatarinox, you could try asking in #ubuntu :/19:03
atarinoxwell is the upgrade from feisty really worthwhile?19:06
atarinoxI was actually thinking of going back to edgy, seemed like that was the most stable on my box19:07
MacongaWhen I Open the Terminal the computer restarts. How can i stop this ?19:28
redwyrmMaconga, what happens when you do a Run Command?19:34
redwyrmand type in "xfterm4"19:34
Macongahow do i do a run command, I'm new to Ubunto19:35
redwyrmMaconga, hold on, I need to start up my Xubuntu session19:36
Macongaok19:36
redwyrm(I'm not using the normal desktop right now)19:37
MacongaIt's been happening since i installed from the cd, I updated everything and it still restarts my computer when i try to open Terminal19:38
ere4sialt-F2 will get the run dialog box :)19:38
Macongaok19:39
Maconganow that i got the Run Program open, how do i install "jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin" ?19:42
redwyrmere4si, lol, after all that work, I couldn't find a menu item for that, and I forgot the keyboard command (if I even knew it in the first place!)19:43
ere4siMaconga: what happens when you type xfterm4 in the run box?19:45
MacongaI dont know, ill try that now19:45
ere4sik19:45
MacongaSelect the Run in terminal box ?19:45
ere4siyep19:46
MacongaThat just restarted my computer ....19:49
redwyrmMaconga, what about xterm?19:49
redwyrmtype that (no "f" or "4" in the command name)19:49
MacongaDo i select "run in terminal" ?19:50
redwyrmno19:50
redwyrmdon't select that19:50
redwyrmor keep it unchecked if it's checked right now19:50
Macongaok... i got a Program open "jj@jj~desktop: ~"19:51
redwyrmawesome19:51
redwyrmso that narrows it down a bit19:51
redwyrmand you have a bare-bones terminal until the problem is totally fixed19:52
Macongaok19:52
redwyrmbbl19:52
Macongabbl ?19:53
redwyrmbe back later19:53
Macongaok19:53
redwyrmas in, I'm going to do stuff in the real world :)19:53
Macongaok c ya later19:53
Macongahow do i install this "jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin"  ?19:54
ere4siMaconga: ubuntu's don't use rpm  packages - you need a deb - it's java yes?19:57
Macongayes java19:57
Macongasu19:57
Macongasorry, wrong window^^19:58
ere4siMaconga: there should be a package for that in synaptic19:58
ere4si!java19:58
ubotuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre19:58
MacongaI'm totally lost right now20:05
Ben_Cshello20:18
Macongahi20:18
Ben_Cshow are you?20:18
Macongafine, trying to get java too work20:18
Macongadownloading right now20:18
Ben_Csgood luck20:19
Ben_Csbtw, are you experiensing any slowness sometimes in xfce?20:19
Macongai dont know, iv only been using xubuntu for 2 days now ....20:20
Ben_Csok20:25
MacongaI have a problem, I just ran out of hard drive space, and i cant delete anything21:01
MacongaThere was an error moving "j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip" to "Trash":21:02
MacongaFailed to copy "/home/jj/Desktop/j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip" to "trash:///j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip": Error creating directory '/home/jj/.local/share/Trash/info': No space left on device21:02
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MacongaIs there a way too search for files ?21:32

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