[00:01] <s34n> Yoques: you boot up with now password?
[00:02] <s34n> s/now/no/
[00:02] <Yoques> :-?
[00:02] <s34n> Yoques: does your pc boot up?
[00:03] <Yoques> when I start, automatically enter after 3 seconds in first kernel, and enter directly to desktop
[00:03] <s34n> Yoques: graphical desktop, yes?
[00:04] <Yoques> yes
[00:04] <s34n> you wrote that your font is too big in "tty"
[00:04] <s34n> you mean in a terminal?
[00:05] <s34n> or do you mean in your graphical desktop?
[00:07] <Yoques> in "tty"
[00:08] <s34n> Yoques: what do you mean by that?
[00:10] <Yoques> ... Don't understand
[00:10] <Yoques> why it succes?
[00:10] <Yoques> why i need?
[00:10] <s34n> Yoques: "tty" means terminal?
[00:11] <Yoques> yes
[00:11] <s34n> gnome-terminal?
[00:11] <Yoques> no
[00:11] <Yoques> control alt Fx
[00:11] <s34n> Yoques: don't do that
[00:11] <Yoques> why?
[00:12] <s34n> Yoques: if you want a command line, open gnome-terminal
[00:13] <Yoques> someone time the sistem fall down, and only can resolve someone problem with control alt F1, F2
[00:13] <s34n> gnome-terminal will be just another app running under X and manageable as such
[00:13] <s34n> Yoques: are you resolving a system failture? or just regular use?
[00:13]  * s34n shakes head
[00:14] <Yoques> too a regular use
[00:14] <s34n> I just realized we are talking xubuntu--no gnome
[00:14] <Yoques> I like w3m like a ultra-plus... :D
[00:14] <s34n> Yoques: forget gnome-terminal. use xterm, or whatever you get in the Xfce desktop
[00:15] <Yoques> the problem is to before today, I have it correct, all was to my preferds options
[00:16] <Yoques> but today I made a dist-upgrade (mistake, I know) and now it don't works correctly
[00:16] <Yoques> but I know that's possible
[00:16] <s34n> Yoques: use xterm inside X, not ctl+alt+f? virtual consoles
[00:16] <Yoques> why?
[00:17] <s34n> Yoques: because then it will be a well-behaved X citizen
[00:17] <s34n> you can manage it, configure it, etc.
[00:40] <Yoques> :S
[00:40] <Yoques> then, no-one possibility to resolve my problem?
[00:42] <Cygnet> Yoques, if no one's answering you in here, try #ubuntu, it gets more traffic
[00:42] <Yoques> OK
[00:48] <Cygnet> I got my nvidia card working and successfully booted xubuntu and reconfigured xserver-xorg but now when I try to startx it goes to the xfce loading screen (with the flashing mouse) and gets stuck there
[00:49] <Cygnet> the mouse stops flashing and it doesn't finish logging in
[02:12] <Ahmuck> what does LVM do ?
[02:12] <Ahmuck> does it auto adust, or must one manually adjust?
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> Hi, I'm looking for ways to tweak Xubuntu.  I have a default install that boots and runs reasonably okay on a P3 (500MHz) with 512 MB of RAM, but a) it could be faster, and b) I have two other computers to do, that have lower specs.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> The second is a P2 (250-350 MHz I think), but also with 512 MB RAM (I got a box of RAM that happened to fit these two), the third is from the Bronze Age.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Well, 1990, but close enough.
[02:53] <Ahmuck> tonyyarusso: i tried xubuntu on that as well on lowerend machines, but moved to a differen *buntu desktop that worked well in low mem/proc configurations
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> Ahmuck: Flux?
[02:53] <Ahmuck> E
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> Ah.  16 or 17?
[02:54] <Ahmuck> 17
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> good choice
[02:54] <Ahmuck> ubuntu server, xserver-xorg, and e17
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> I like E, but I don't think it's most appropriate for this case.
[02:54] <Ahmuck> it's about as stripped down as you can get at that point
[02:54] <Ahmuck> i actually enjoyed e
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> These are donated machines that will be either given away or sold at very low cose to low-income families through a charity thrift store, so I need something that's a) stable, and b) very, very intuitive (many have never had a computer before)
[02:55] <Ahmuck> i have not tried fluxbuntu on that lower end machine.  i tried it in a vm and am going to wait until it becomes more polished, however it may come in below e for sys requirements
[02:56] <Ahmuck> tonyyarusso: yes, that is what i have been doing for the last two weeks as well.  picked up 10 ~500Mhz and 128Mb ram for 1.00/machine
[02:56] <Ahmuck> what they are great at is web servers
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> Very true.  I doubt a web server is going to be much help for the kid that just needs to do his homework though :P
[02:57] <Ahmuck> heh.  i installed scribus, oo.o writer, and firefox.  at 64mb ram.  it was a challenge, but it did work, though i don't know if i would donate something that low mem
[04:11] <NullName> Anyone know an easy way to use an ssh client with an http proxy?
[04:12] <NullName> OR does anyone know the correct room for me to ask this?
[04:42] <newbieee> is monodevelop works in 256mb ram and in xubuntu?
[04:42] <EdWarbucker> Ok, I could use a hand in getting the Forward and Back buttons to work on my Microsoft Intellimouse Optical.  I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons but the only thing that did is disable my scrollwheel...
[04:48] <XwarlokX82> EdWarbucker, you aren't the only one... i didn't realize just how valuable those buttons were till i had to do without em.
[04:50] <EdWarbucker> Yeah, for so many years I happily ran my mouse cursor up to click on the back button and never thought about it.  But now, every trip up there seems to take an eternity... :)
[04:51] <newbieee> is monodevelop works in 256mb ram and in xubuntu?
[05:09] <newbieee> i think all 69 ppl are sleeping here..;)
[05:10] <web_knows> yeah
[05:10] <web_knows> and i think you're right
[05:20] <jjmiv> yo
[05:21] <EdWarbucker> Arg, well, that didn't work either, though at least my scrollwheel works again now.  Is anybody available yet to assist with getting my Forward and Back buttons working on my MS Intellimouse Optical?
[06:48] <VVelox> Any suggestions for wireless connection managers?
[07:17] <William> finaly
[07:17] <William> my firewall was blocking irc and vpn, so I ended up turning it off
[07:19] <William> I am installing xubuntu on an old hp and don't see the menu bars, anyone know the shortcut for the programs menu?
[07:23] <William> nickserv
[07:27] <NullName> HELP! I'm having trouble monitoring ALL packets going through my wireless adaptor.  I've tried using wireshark, but was wondering if I could monitor a file or something from /dev?  Where is my wireless card running?  How can I view exactly what is going on behind the scenes?
[07:29] <NullName> bummer
[07:37] <newbieee> how do i get my panel back...
[07:38] <newbieee> by mistacally i deleted that from system manager
[07:50] <scizzo-> newbieee: think I manage to do that once also
[07:53] <newbieee> how should i do this?
[08:46] <mikubuntu> does anybody know if the cnr software program works with xubuntu?  i have it on my ubuntu machine, but i want to reccomend to my friend that runs x ...
[10:27] <gerro> I noticed something odd about xfce4-panel while browsing the web
[10:27] <gerro> it seems if there is a picture in the browser and I drag it over to the bar then take it away the bar dissappears and I can move it in and out and the bar goes in and out then it stays down so I have to customize panel to get the bar to come up
[10:28] <gerro> hmm maybe I should make a video of this...
[15:27] <redwyrm> hi
[15:28] <redwyrm> does the window manager (xfwm) in Xubuntu 7.10 have a good "Run" command?
[15:28] <redwyrm> like, does it use tabbing similar to the way bash uses it?
[15:29] <redwyrm> actually, wait, it's not the window manager. it's probably some other xfce component
[15:29] <redwyrm> because I switched to the ion window manager, and I think it sucks _except_ for its Run command
[15:58] <garuhhh> am installing xubuntu 7.10, it always hangs at the part when detecting CD-ROM,,any idea what's the problem?
[16:11] <gerro> !xgl
[16:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:11] <gerro> don't really care for compiz or any fancy eye candy just interested in the xgl performance benefits..
[16:11] <gerro> anyone know where I can find more about that?
[16:13] <sgronblo> Hey, running this eeeXubuntu on my new eee PC. I installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras when trying to get youtube to play videos. But it didn't help, so I've tried uninstalling/re-installing both firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. But firefox keeps saying that I don
[16:13] <garuhhh> gerro: if imay ask.. what's a XGL?
[16:13] <sgronblo> t have flash.
[16:13] <gerro> garuhhh: xgl uses video card more so when doing 2d apps and other things
[16:13] <gerro> garuhhh: its an alternative to xorg meant to surpass it in the future
[16:14] <gerro> it used to be the only way to have fancy apps for your desktop until xorg caught up a bit
[16:15] <gerro> I installed it but nothing is happening and I think I'm still using xorg I'm afraid to reboot....
[16:15] <garuhhh> gerro: wow! haven't heard of that...am really new to linux :D
[16:18] <gerro> garuhhh: I think I have to edit some scripts to get it working like I did before. It has a few problems with shading and other things might make certain games crash but overall is a lot more speedier
[16:19] <gerro> garuhhh: you any good with proftpd or lighttpd?
[16:19] <garuhhh> gerro: speedier??? hmmm.. that's what i need..
[16:19] <garuhhh> gerro: ooopss..haven't heard of them. what are they?
[16:20] <gerro> garuhhh: ftp and http stuff like the name implies trying to setup some web stuff for a few friends
[16:20] <garuhhh> gerro: am not really quite of help here :D
[16:20] <gerro> garuhhh: what sort of system you got?
[16:21] <garuhhh> gerro: oh.. i see.. ddin't notice the http, and ftp letters:D
[16:21] <garuhhh> gerro: naaaah.. all i have is an AMD k6-2..
[16:21] <garuhhh> gerro: was on ubuntu, but i was trying xubuntu..
[16:22] <garuhhh> gerro: then i encountered this weird "hanging" when detecting CDrom (during installation)
[16:22] <gerro> yeah
[16:22] <gerro> unplug ethernet when you install that doesn't happen
[16:22] <garuhhh> gerro: 500MHz cpu, 256MB ram, 16MB vcard.. quite old!
[16:22] <gerro> its towards the end of install right?
[16:22] <garuhhh> gerro: actually, i don't have a lan card installed
[16:22] <gerro> wireless?
[16:23] <garuhhh> gerro: nope,, it's at the start
[16:23] <gerro> odd
[16:23] <garuhhh> gerro: it's alternative cd, by the way..
[16:23] <gerro> what vid card is that?
[16:23] <garuhhh> gerro: i tried the livecd, it went well, but during installation,the same case
[16:23] <gerro> remove the hard drive and install it using the computer your on now
[16:24] <gerro> just be sure your current hard drive isn't still in else will mess up the bootloader on it
[16:24] <garuhhh> gerro: the box said, it's a RIVA tnt2 m64, but every OS i install says its an SIS (weird vcard)
[16:24] <gerro> oh intel right?
[16:24] <gerro> there was a posting I read some where about that
[16:24] <garuhhh> gerro: nope...not an intel..
[16:24] <gerro> ah I must be thinking mirage one
[16:25] <gerro> does it have a tv tuner?
[16:25] <garuhhh> gerro: nope. no tv tuner
[16:26] <garuhhh> gerro: in windows, if the vcard drivers are installed a 32MB card is reported, without the provided drivers installed it's only 16mb
[16:26] <gerro> glxinfo | grep direct?
[16:26] <garuhhh> gerro: well anyway, it's still in the text mode when it hangs..
[16:27] <garuhhh> gerro: when i was in ubuntu, yep i was in direct rendering
[16:27] <gerro> kk just checking cause some guy back in february had issue with it on forums
[16:28] <garuhhh> gerro: even at ubuntu, it says SiS card...
[16:28] <gerro> so?
[16:28] <garuhhh> gerro: as far as iknow,it's not an SIS, it's an nvidia, even a sticker on the board says it's a RIVA TNt2 m64
[16:28] <gerro> but is it working?
[16:29] <garuhhh> gerro: yep working at 16mb memory, but it's supposed to be 32..
[16:29] <garuhhh> gerro: weird eh?
[16:29] <gerro> I've had that issue with an ati card
[16:29] <gerro> anyway if its an older computer might want to update its bios
[16:29] <garuhhh> gerro: what was the culprit?
[16:30] <gerro> I have no clue I never fixed it
[16:30] <garuhhh> gerro: i already used 2 mobos, and results are the same...
[16:30] <garuhhh> gerro: hehe.. you trashed the ati?
[16:31] <gerro> yeah it sucked pretty hard, I couldn't log out and had to keep restarting it to switch users, ctrl alt backspace crashed it and couldn't run in anything but 24 color mode
[16:31] <garuhhh> gerro: well, me, too,got tired with my videocard, i leard to live with it like that :D
[16:31] <gerro> I mean the driver said it was made in 2001
[16:32] <garuhhh> gerro: oh... in one forum said, ati's are not so good at OPENGL support...that's what linux uses!
[16:32] <gerro> garuhhh: if you want a few tips you might want to try blackbox on that machine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084 with slim instead of gdm
[16:32] <garuhhh> gerro: they said, that if you're planning on using linux, asmuchas possible, stay away from ati..that's what they said
[16:32] <gerro> turn it down to 16 color in xorg too help it a bit
[16:33]  * gerro mumbles and compaq laptops those demonic toasters
[16:34] <redwyrm> "demonic toaster" haha.... that's a pretty apt description of my computer :/
[16:34] <redwyrm> laptop*
[16:34] <garuhhh> gerro: i really can't afford "cool" desktops right now...  am on the speed side..
[16:34] <gerro> well my little bro got this discounted floor model laptop it probably had alot of milage and perhaps did get that amd bios virus thingy I heard about *cringe* but whole system died
[16:36] <gerro> garuhhh: your box sounds really nice
[16:36] <garuhhh> gerro: anyway,how do i turn off the installation of the module: ide floppy?
[16:36] <garuhhh> gerro: me? nice? lol
[16:36] <gerro> garuhhh: you mean remove floppy support?
[16:36] <redwyrm> gerro, wait, what? a _BIOS_ virus?
[16:36]  * redwyrm shudders
[16:36] <garuhhh> gerro: it's quite old?!
[16:36] <garuhhh> gerro: yes..maybesomething like that... in installation proper..
[16:37] <garuhhh> gerro: like an installation parameter...
[16:37] <garuhhh> gerro: or at least specify what my cdrom is, so it won't scan and probe for what hardware i have..
[16:37] <gerro> garuhhh: if you want to remove floppy support you'd have to recompile the kernel or like remove its module
[16:37] <gerro> rmmod it some how
[16:37] <gerro> lsmod should show it
[16:37] <garuhhh> gerro: but haven't installed linux yet..
[16:38] <garuhhh> gerro: am still installing when it hangs during cdrom detection
[16:38] <gerro> ohhh
[16:38] <gerro> I had that problem before!
[16:38] <garuhhh> gerro: really? how'd you solve it?
[16:38] <gerro> but I couldn't boot live cd or use alternate cd
[16:38] <garuhhh> gerro: that never happened tome in 7.04
[16:38] <gerro> and the usb was 1.0 and didn't feel like messing with usb install
[16:39] <gerro> I ended up running instlux through the old os that was on it
[16:39] <gerro> got 6.06 ubuntu on there
[16:39] <garuhhh> gerro: so am stuck with 7.04?
[16:39] <gerro> I doubt it
[16:39] <garuhhh> gerro: :(
[16:39] <gerro> you said you can use the livecd right?
[16:39] <garuhhh> gerro: yep!
[16:39] <gerro> then why doesn't alternate work?
[16:40] <garuhhh> gerro: i can... but if i install the livecd on the hdisk, ithangs in the same spot.
[16:40] <gerro> perhaps you have a floppy in the drive? that messing up detection?
[16:40] <garuhhh> gerro: duringthe installation of themodule : ide floppy
[16:40] <garuhhh> gerro: no floppy, even turned off my floppy in the BIOS
[16:41] <gerro> that's booting from the floppy right? that shouldn't matter
[16:41] <garuhhh> gerro: nope, boot from cdrom
[16:41] <gerro> look it doesn't really matter cause you said that computer has no network connection yet you have a net connection now right
[16:41] <gerro> use computer your on now to format and install to the others hard drive
[16:41] <gerro> then just reconfigure xorg
[16:41] <garuhhh> gerro: am not sure why it even scans formy cdrom.. yet i booted right frommy cd!
[16:42] <garuhhh> gerro: am on a friend's pc, can't do anything on her pc...she uses it alot..
[16:43] <gerro> you don't even have to hook your hard drive up to her pc just run an ide cable between it and the other hard drive with her hdd unplugged
[16:43] <garuhhh> gerro: won't it have any issue with the hardware if i installed it on other pc, then use the OS on mine?
[16:43] <gerro> not at all just will need to know what size monitor and what video card
[16:43] <gerro> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server should take care of that though
[16:43] <garuhhh> gerro: oh.. i see..
[16:44] <gerro> I would have done that to the laptop but its hard drive was too small and hard to get out think it was super glued
[16:45] <garuhhh> gerro: i think an iso install would work on that laptop..
[16:45] <gerro> the whole reason it had a problem with cdrom was that it could slide out and switch between cdrom and floppy
[16:46] <gerro> was weird...
[16:48] <garuhhh> gerro: oh.. i've seen one of those before
[16:52] <gerro> garuhhh: want to buy one? damn friend left it over house and still won't take it back too hyped about this ps3
[16:52] <garuhhh> gerro: oh yeah?! what's the specs?
[16:53] <gerro> garuhhh: hmm think its 1.6ghz and 512mb mem some old nvidia
[16:53] <gerro> I got this belkin wireless usb device I was going to pop the hood and see if I can solder it to the thing
[16:53] <garuhhh> gerro: wow! that's good enough forme, i'll be interested inanything higher than 500MHz! :d
[16:53] <gerro> because it doesn't have wireless in it
[16:54] <garuhhh> gerro: naaah... don't need wireless now..so it won't hurt me :D
[16:55] <garuhhh> gerro: am really in need of a higher specs pc..
[16:55] <garuhhh> gerro: atleast in terms of cpu and vcard.
[16:55] <gerro> just plug it into a cellphone or someone elses wireless lappy heck even use a ds gameboy to get wireless
[16:55] <gerro> so its all good
[16:56] <gerro> garuhhh: try /join #garuhhh
[16:57] <garuhhh> gerro: didn't get that...
[16:57] <gerro> garuhhh: just type it
[17:43] <gerro> any idea why task list of firefox has the icon transparent if its minimized?
[17:44] <gerro> oh nvm pidgin wasn't minimized that why it wasn't the same
[17:44] <gerro> everything looks odd with this panel size :/
[18:48] <billy_idle> CU :)
[18:48] <billy_idle> Merry Xmas :D
[19:00] <atarinox> hi, i'm having a problem w/ gutsy...I just installed and everytime I try to adjust network settings everything locks up and I have to do a hard reset...
[19:00] <atarinox> anybody have an idea of what's going on?
[19:03] <redwyrm> atarinox, you could try asking in #ubuntu :/
[19:06] <atarinox> well is the upgrade from feisty really worthwhile?
[19:07] <atarinox> I was actually thinking of going back to edgy, seemed like that was the most stable on my box
[19:28] <Maconga> When I Open the Terminal the computer restarts. How can i stop this ?
[19:34] <redwyrm> Maconga, what happens when you do a Run Command?
[19:34] <redwyrm> and type in "xfterm4"
[19:35] <Maconga> how do i do a run command, I'm new to Ubunto
[19:36] <redwyrm> Maconga, hold on, I need to start up my Xubuntu session
[19:36] <Maconga> ok
[19:37] <redwyrm> (I'm not using the normal desktop right now)
[19:38] <Maconga> It's been happening since i installed from the cd, I updated everything and it still restarts my computer when i try to open Terminal
[19:38] <ere4si> alt-F2 will get the run dialog box :)
[19:39] <Maconga> ok
[19:42] <Maconga> now that i got the Run Program open, how do i install "jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin" ?
[19:43] <redwyrm> ere4si, lol, after all that work, I couldn't find a menu item for that, and I forgot the keyboard command (if I even knew it in the first place!)
[19:45] <ere4si> Maconga: what happens when you type xfterm4 in the run box?
[19:45] <Maconga> I dont know, ill try that now
[19:45] <ere4si> k
[19:45] <Maconga> Select the Run in terminal box ?
[19:46] <ere4si> yep
[19:49] <Maconga> That just restarted my computer ....
[19:49] <redwyrm> Maconga, what about xterm?
[19:49] <redwyrm> type that (no "f" or "4" in the command name)
[19:50] <Maconga> Do i select "run in terminal" ?
[19:50] <redwyrm> no
[19:50] <redwyrm> don't select that
[19:50] <redwyrm> or keep it unchecked if it's checked right now
[19:51] <Maconga> ok... i got a Program open "jj@jj~desktop: ~"
[19:51] <redwyrm> awesome
[19:51] <redwyrm> so that narrows it down a bit
[19:52] <redwyrm> and you have a bare-bones terminal until the problem is totally fixed
[19:52] <Maconga> ok
[19:52] <redwyrm> bbl
[19:53] <Maconga> bbl ?
[19:53] <redwyrm> be back later
[19:53] <Maconga> ok
[19:53] <redwyrm> as in, I'm going to do stuff in the real world :)
[19:53] <Maconga> ok c ya later
[19:54] <Maconga> how do i install this "jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin"  ?
[19:57] <ere4si> Maconga: ubuntu's don't use rpm  packages - you need a deb - it's java yes?
[19:57] <Maconga> yes java
[19:57] <Maconga> su
[19:58] <Maconga> sorry, wrong window^^
[19:58] <ere4si> Maconga: there should be a package for that in synaptic
[19:58] <ere4si> !java
[19:58] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[20:05] <Maconga> I'm totally lost right now
[20:18] <Ben_Cs> hello
[20:18] <Maconga> hi
[20:18] <Ben_Cs> how are you?
[20:18] <Maconga> fine, trying to get java too work
[20:18] <Maconga> downloading right now
[20:19] <Ben_Cs> good luck
[20:19] <Ben_Cs> btw, are you experiensing any slowness sometimes in xfce?
[20:20] <Maconga> i dont know, iv only been using xubuntu for 2 days now ....
[20:25] <Ben_Cs> ok
[21:01] <Maconga> I have a problem, I just ran out of hard drive space, and i cant delete anything
[21:02] <Maconga> There was an error moving "j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip" to "Trash":
[21:02] <Maconga> Failed to copy "/home/jj/Desktop/j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip" to "trash:///j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip": Error creating directory '/home/jj/.local/share/Trash/info': No space left on device
[21:32] <Maconga> Is there a way too search for files ?