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| svg | Hi Folks - I'm looking for some opinions on the sizing of an edubuntu server - anyone around on this? | 12:41 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | !ask | 12:41 |
| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 12:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 12:41 |
| svg | Kamping_Kaiser: I know, just not if this is the proper channel | 12:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dont see why it wouldnt be ;) | 12:42 |
| svg | well, I guess I went around too much channels with bofh style people :) | 12:43 |
| svg | anyway, need to make an offer for an edubuntu server project - school with classroom of about 30 clients, for a total of maybe 200 user accounts | 12:43 |
| svg | with possible growth to a second 30 clients classroom | 12:44 |
| svg | my take, I'll need lots of RAM, not sure if going 64bit is a good idea, as tis server is "desktop oriented" and students might want to use flash and other stuff | 12:45 |
| svg | not sure if SCSI is a must, not sur how to size processors | 12:45 |
| svg | as far as I'm told, pupils will use pretty much only the default edubuntu installed software | 12:46 |
| svg | firefox being the most important app | 12:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | imho you want to over engineer it if your budget allows. | 12:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | with 30 concurernt users, probably 4-8gb of ram would be desired. if flash is involved that number could go up (no idea, we dont allow flash where i am) | 12:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | well, much flash | 12:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | someone else can probably comment on flash support under 64 bit, but it would be ideal to use 64 bit cpus. probably 2 (a dual core would do i expect) | 12:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | scsi isnt a 'must', but if theres lots of disc work, its a 'nice' | 12:48 |
| stgraber | according to the handbook, RAM should be : 256+(60*x), I'd personally go with : 512+(60*x) | 12:49 |
| stgraber | so 4gb should do it | 12:49 |
| stgraber | dual-CPU is also a good idea especially bi dual-core CPU (so 4 virtual CPUs), 64bit is fine but will need some hack to have firefox running correctly (nspluginwrapper) | 12:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, dual dual core is 4 physical cores. nothing virtual about them. | 12:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !flash | 12:52 |
| ubotu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 12:52 |
| ubotu | The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix. | 12:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | waho. double entry? | 12:52 |
| svg | ok, thanks for that, this confirms my own general first idea | 12:58 |
| svg | I'll definitely wil go to multicore | 12:58 |
| svg | actually, I'm using Intl serevrs with quad cores already | 12:59 |
| svg | fyi, i was told also to look here, which looks quite complete: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing | 13:01 |
| svg | 64bit sounds like a big plus, and flash seems apt-get-eable since gutsy | 13:05 |
| ericb2 | hello | 13:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | morning | 13:38 |
| ericb2 | FYI, I do represent OpenOffice.org project, Education projet exactly | 13:39 |
| ericb2 | and I wanted to say we'll add your project on our mainsite | 13:40 |
| ericb2 | http://education.openoffice.org/gen_index.html | 13:40 |
| YoP_YoP | bijour | 13:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ericb2, not sure who to talk to about that | 13:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | riched, when hes around i guess | 13:42 |
| ericb2 | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, thank a lot. Anyway, we'll keep a link for edubuntu on our site | 13:43 |
| ericb2 | Kamping_Kaiser: the current website is old and crappy, but we are working for a new one | 13:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ericb2, hope it helps :) | 13:44 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser is only slightly involved in this project, so cant really talk for it | 13:45 | |
| ericb2 | Kamping_Kaiser: no problem. I'll be back soon here. | 13:45 |
| * ericb2 wishes a Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year to all of you . Bye :-) | 13:46 | |
| ericb2 | bye | 13:46 |
| YoP_YoP | bye :) | 13:46 |
| paolob-parroquia | hi ogra! Could you tell me if I can use two nics with two groups of clients with the same edubuntu server? | 14:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm not ogra, but i dont see why not | 14:35 |
| pygi | hello folks | 14:59 |
| pygi | how ya all doing? :) | 15:00 |
| das-t_ | kind of relaxed and well ;-) | 15:18 |
| pygi | nice :) | 15:20 |
| das-t_ | hope you are too ;-) | 15:26 |
| pygi | ofcourse, just a bit busy :) | 15:28 |
| svg | hi all - if i'm running 64bit edubuntu server - what's the consequences on the clients? can i mix 32 bit clients with 64 bit clients? do the 32bit clients benefit? | 16:37 |
| johnny_ | hell.. 64bit clients hardly benefit | 16:43 |
| johnny_ | the concensus so far is that nobody benefits | 16:43 |
| johnny_ | it just turns out to be more hassle than its' worth to use 64bit mode at all for desktop apps on linux | 16:44 |
| johnny_ | or windows for that matter really .. | 16:58 |
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