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SchuenemannNickPresta, it's obvious that it won't improve it, I want to know if it will be worse than the source...00:00
nosredna_ekimhey everyone! its Jonathon Riddell's Birthday! everyone go over to #kubuntu-devel and wish him a happy birthday00:00
A|i3N8ok cool cause i can't find it Nosredna00:01
alwrwr2003hi all00:01
nosredna_ekimA|i3N8: http://digitalife.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/using-your-mobile-phone-as-a-gprs-modem-with-ubuntu-linux-via-dku-2-usb-cable/00:02
alwrwr2003guys how can i run compiz? i've installed all the packages but when i run it it said i have to install compiz-gnome-manager but i got a "break install" note when i request to install it.00:03
Hirvinen!compiz | alwrwr200300:03
ubotualwrwr2003: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:03
nosredna_ekimA|i3N8: http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/usb-mobile-phone-modem-under-linux/00:04
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Here is a better spot: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/00:04
A|i3N8Whoa THANK YOU noredna00:05
A|i3N8nosredna00:05
A|i3N8hehe00:05
sourcemakerNeoFax: And now... download and install?00:05
noaXesshow can is see, what type my integrated webcam is? lsusb normally?00:05
A|i3N8wish i had a printer. lol. Can I save that as text and pull it up in kubuntu??00:05
noaXess!webcam00:05
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras00:05
A|i3N8or do i gotta somehow mount the partition which I've forgotten how to do lol00:06
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Yes, but keep the page open as you may need to download some more files00:06
basyHi can anybody help, all my X-browsers: Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon freeze downloading of some pages (www.ubunto.com), but text based like w3m and links are ok...00:06
NeoFaxnoaXess: lsusb or lspci00:07
nosredna_ekimA|i3N8: no... you can't mount that partition with vista00:07
NeoFaxbasy: Try starting one of them from the CLI to see exactly what your error is.00:07
A|i3N8so um.. how um.. can i like, .. yea... get the txt file onto linux? lol00:07
nosredna_ekimA|i3N8: you can probably save it on vista a putll it up with kubuntu though. probably easiest just to write down the essential instructions.00:08
A|i3N8that's what i jeant lol00:08
A|i3N8meant00:08
A|i3N8yea true.00:08
A|i3N8i'll try to retrieve it first i guess. hehe. Thanks :) Be back to let you know if I got it working00:08
basyhow to strat it throu CLI? plz00:09
basyfrom terminal?00:09
sourcemakerNeoFax: I am sorry... I do not know about apt... was is udep?00:09
sourcemakerNeoFax:  what is00:09
NeoFaxsourcemaker: That is the deb files that the installer uses to install the kernel.00:10
NeoFaxThis is probably the one you want: linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb00:10
alwrwr2003guys when ever i try to install compiz it shows me a msg that says Broken Packages!00:12
alwrwr2003what can i do00:12
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: sudo aptitude install -f00:13
Dr_willisthen apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then try again..00:13
alwrwr2003thx Neo i will try00:14
NeoFaxDr_willis: You shouldn't have to do the update and upgrade.  It should fix itself00:14
Dr_willisShould.. :)00:14
alwrwr2003doesn't work :(00:15
alwrwr2003it shows me this msg00:15
alwrwr2003The following packages have unmet dependencies:00:15
alwrwr2003  emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed00:15
alwrwr2003           Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable00:15
alwrwr2003E: Broken packages00:15
NeoFaxOK, then sudo aptitude remove emerald and wait for libwnck18 to be put in the repos00:16
basyHi, all my X-browsers (Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon) freeze downloading of lots of pages (www.ubuntu.com), and never display full page, but text based browsers works OK, check, plz: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg00:16
alwrwr2003thx man i will try00:16
NeoFaxbasy: Did you run one from the CLI like I said before to see the error?00:16
basy<NeoFax>: how can i run it from CLI, what does it mean plz?00:17
alwrwr2003i found libwnck22 installed00:17
alwrwr2003what should i do next?00:17
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: sudo aptitude remove libwnck2200:18
killer_I was told that gutsy had write access to NTFS upon install, but dolphin does not mount the NTFS partition.. any help?00:18
alwrwr2003removed00:18
alwrwr2003it ask me to remove compiz and compiz-gnome00:19
alwrwr2003should i do so?00:19
basy<NeoFax>: i tried this strace konqueror00:19
noaXess!mouse00:20
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto00:20
killer_hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100000:20
sourcemakerNeoFax: which package is required for the firmware? I have installed linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb => /lib/firmware/2.6.24-2-generic: not found00:20
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Yes.  Then install emerald first then install compiz00:20
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Use the modules deb00:20
alwrwr2003ok thx Neo00:21
NeoFaxbasy: What was the error?00:21
noaXess!logitech00:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:21
noaXess!mx70000:21
fulat2khi folks, what's the easiest way to encode xvid/divx files to psp format?  i've tried mencoder, but doesn't seem to be working.00:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mx700 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:21
killer_!anything00:21
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.00:21
killer_cool.. they were thinking :)00:22
basy<NeoFax>; and when it feezes there was infinity loop of: select(22, [3 4 5 7 9 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21], [], [], {0, 49505}) = 0 (Timeout)00:22
basy<NeoFax> but half of page is ok, can you check: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg00:23
sourcemakerNeoFax: There are a lot of modules...00:24
NeoFaxfulat2k: http://pspvc.sourceforge.net/00:24
basy<NeoFax> sorry, i'll wait until you help sourcemaker00:25
killer_in System Settings->Disk&Filesystems  when I click Administrator Mode, I never get administrator mode.. it just goes back to non-admin00:26
dreamcoderhello00:26
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Try: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/00:27
sourcemakerNeoFax: Thank's I will try00:28
NeoFaxbasy: I can't help out with strace.  Try doing what I said and open konsole and type firefox > firefox-error.txt &  When it crashes, upload the text file to pastebin00:28
alwrwr2003Neo i tried to install emerald but i got this msg00:28
alwrwr2003The following packages have unmet dependencies:00:28
alwrwr2003  emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed00:28
alwrwr2003           Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable00:28
alwrwr2003E: Broken packages00:28
alwrwr2003i've already installed libwnck2200:29
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Where are you getting emerald from?00:29
alwrwr2003i just write the command in the terminal sudo apt-get install emerald00:29
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin00:29
dreamcodermeryy xmas to everyone! ho ho ho lol00:29
alwrwr2003sry but what is pastebin?00:30
sourcemakerNeoFax: It seems to be working...00:30
basy<NeoFax>: ok i'm doing thanx00:30
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: http://pastebin.com/00:30
mygotohello00:31
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: You copy and paste your sources.list there.  It will then spit out a webpage.  Copy the URL and paste here.00:31
killer_how do I make hald obey users above 1000 UID?00:32
sourcemakerNeoFax: Thanks for helping me .... I rebooting my system now00:32
alwrwr2003http://pastebin.com/m749480d400:32
NeoFaxkiller_: To mount ntfs do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -L label-for-your-drive-here /media/directory-you-make00:33
alwrwr2003this is the url00:33
someon1does anyone know of a software that will allow me to extract numerical data from a graph?00:33
Alcherag'day receiving (again) this message when i run  ksystemlog >> You do not have sufficient permissions to read '/var/log/syslog' also same with kernel.log00:34
mygotoanyone try kde4?00:34
Schuenemannsomeon1, what kind of graph?00:34
someon1a 2-d image -- pdf, jpeg, whatever00:34
someon1I've seen something for Mac OSX (that isnt freeware) while will do exactly this00:34
Schuenemannhuh... I don't think that's possible... or easy00:34
killer_NeoFax: I'd like to click the /media directory and have it mounted as it is advertised00:34
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someon1you import the image, tell the program what the axis are, and then click on points on the plot00:35
killer_NeoFax: when I click "system menu" icon next to the K{gear},then click Storage Media the NTFS is already on the list00:36
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Comment out the download.tuxfamily line as you are mixing feisty with gutsy and I would comment out the CD line as well.  Then try installing emerald00:37
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alwrwr2003ok00:37
basy<NeoFax>: i tried ( konqueror > kon.log & ) but kon.log was empty, same with firefox :(00:38
NeoFaxkiller_: That is not mounting the system, nor is it write capable as far as I know.  Also, to have the drive to automount you would need to put it into your /etc/fstab file00:38
NeoFaxbasy: Try checking out your ~/.xsession-errors file.  Also, is this website flash driven?00:38
killer_NeoFax: I put it in the fstab, then when I click it in /media  I got an error about something died unexpectedly00:39
killer_NeoFax: also tried to configure it w/ "sudo systemsettings"00:39
killer_NeoFax: that did not work either00:39
NeoFaxkiller_: try doing sudo mount -a and see what error you get.00:40
alwrwr2003ok emerald has been installed !! thank u very much Neo ! should i now install compiz??00:41
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Yes00:41
alwrwr2003ok00:42
killer_NeoFax: I know I can subvert the kubuntu mounting/system administration and manually get the partition mounted00:42
killer_NeoFax: my intent is to learn how to teach people over the phone to get past these everyday hurdles00:42
NeoFaxkiller_: The point is to get the error.  and rule out mount then solve what the error is.  It just may not be a hal problem00:43
killer_NeoFax: currently I just ssh into their box and fix things.. but they should be able to fix their own issues00:43
killer_NeoFax: ok.. try that soon then.. I'm currently googling howto manage hald-storage00:44
joheyWhy is freemind not in Gutsy's repository? Do I need to install it manually?00:45
joheyIf I remember correctly, freemind was in Feisty's main repo.00:45
alwrwr2003neo i've installed all the compiz packages00:45
alwrwr2003how can i run it now?00:45
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Are you in KDE?00:46
alwrwr2003yes00:46
killer_!blkid.tab00:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blkid.tab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:46
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: compiz --replace & then emerald --replace &00:46
killer_figures00:46
alwrwr2003i got this msg when i type compiz --replace00:47
alwrwr2003Checking for Xgl: not present.00:47
alwrwr2003No whitelisted driver found00:47
alwrwr2003aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity00:47
alwrwr2003no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting00:47
jaylc185Is there a KDE development environment in kubuntu like there is in knoppix?00:48
basyI got a lot of => ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)    inside .xsession-errors, is it OK?00:48
NeoFaxbasy: That is fine, as the generic icon will be used.00:49
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: What video card do you have?00:50
il12ok. I have a question of opinion: VMWare or Virt. Box?00:50
alwrwr2003nVedia 850000:50
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: What driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?00:50
Dr_willisil12,  install both. :)00:50
Dr_willisil12,  i find some live cd's and disrtos have issues with one or the other.00:50
il12Dr_willis: tyvm.00:51
firecrotch!madwifi00:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:51
il12is it just apt-get install vmware and apt-get install virtualbox? or..?00:51
alwrwr2003Section "Device"00:51
alwrwr2003Identifier"nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8500 GT]"00:51
alwrwr2003Driver"nv"00:51
alwrwr2003BusID"PCI:1:0:0"00:51
il12dr_willis: install vmware and install virtualbox or....?00:53
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adrian_hola00:55
Schuenemannalwrwr2003, did you install nvidia-glx?00:56
Dr_willisil12,  install them both....00:56
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il12dr_willis: I am asking as to the app name for the command-line installer00:56
alwrwr2003no00:56
Dr_willis!vmware00:56
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers00:56
Dr_willis!virtualbox00:56
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox00:56
Schuenemannalwrwr2003, what happens if you type glxgears?00:57
il12:( not available for Gutsy..... ok. So I suppose the second one will have to do.00:57
alwrwr2003i see some gears moving00:58
Schuenemannmoving fast?00:58
alwrwr2003no00:58
sourcemakerNeoFax: Nice try... but I also have to update the nvidia modules....00:58
alwrwr2003normal i think00:58
Dr_willisThey are both avail for gutsy00:58
Dr_willisYou just have touse vmwareserver for gutsy :)00:59
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Yes, you will have to download that deb as well.00:59
il12Oh. alright.00:59
il12TY! haha. doctor knows best. :P00:59
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NeoFaxalwrwr2003: do sudo dpkg -L | grep nvidia00:59
Schuenemannalwrwr2003, you might try to change that 'nv' to 'nvidia', I had to do that when I had one01:00
Dr_willisWhat one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.01:00
sourcemakerNeoFax: There are a lot of problems for just fixing a minor problem with a WLAN card...01:00
dreamcoderMerry Xmas everyone Night Night ! xxx01:00
killer_!/media system01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about media system - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:00
il12a game.... that's all, for the moment, at any rate. LastChaos by Aeria Games if that makes any difference.01:00
basyI can't install flash (aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree)=> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, i tried 10 times, why?01:00
alwrwr2003i got this01:00
alwrwr2003dpkg-query: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument01:00
il12Dr_Willis: what about Qemu? the Ubuntu VMware page says to also consider that program.01:01
killer_NeoFax: any tips or URLs on how to configure /media mounted filesystems?01:02
sourcemakerNeoFax: It's like going back to gentoo... doing all yourself...01:02
Dr_willis------->   What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.01:02
Dr_willis:)01:02
il12ok.. do you know which would be best for running a game?01:03
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Kinda, but you can use the restricted drivers package from hardy and you should be fine01:03
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: OK try with a lower case l01:04
Dr_willisil12,  for a 3d game.. None of them.01:05
alwrwr2003sry do u mean i should replace nv with nividia in the xorg.conf?01:05
Dr_willisil12,  they are designed to run the whole OS. Not individual apps.01:05
il12Ok, so I suppose I just keep my windows for that then?01:05
alwrwr2003tried and showed me this01:05
NeoFaxkiller_: Check up on hal rules.  That is what actually mounts drives that are not permanently attached01:05
alwrwr2003ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7                  NVIDIA binary kernel module common files01:06
il12I just heard some mention of people playing WoW earlier, so I thought I'd see if I could get LC to work maybe in a similar way.01:06
NeoFaxalwrwr2003: Do you have this package installed along with the nvidia-glx package and xserver-xorg-xgl package?01:07
NeoFaxIf so, then yes, just change nv to nvidia.01:07
Dr_willisil12,  they are running WoW with Wine, or Cedega.01:07
Dr_willisil12,  Wine is different in what it does from vmware/virtualbox/qemu01:08
Schuenemannwhat's so special about cedega?01:08
il12Dr_willis: I've tried wine, and apparently there is some sort of a security protection measure with LC that won't allow it to be run. I get the error that it is already running on my machine.01:08
Dr_willisCedega is wine tweaked out for games. and with a nicer interface01:08
Dr_willisil12,  whats LC ?01:09
alwrwr2003i have this installed "xserver-xorg-core" but i can't see xgl .. the "nvidia-glx" is not installed .. should i install it?01:09
il12LC = LastChaos by Aeria Games01:09
il12the game. sorry01:09
firecrotchil12:  Have you installed it multiple times on any computer?01:10
il12and Cedega is by subscription only so I'll have to pass on that.01:10
killer_NeoFax: cool.. been googling for that info, "man hald" exposes no config info, kinda sad really01:10
il12firecrotch: no. it's a free game, just a 400+MB download, install it, download the patches and login.01:10
firecrotchil12:  Oh, I must have been thinking of some other game then or something01:11
Alcheraokies .. back :) Joyeux Noël 01:11
Dr_willisil12,   You run the game installer with wine and it says the game is allready installed?01:11
il12firecrotch: np, you had a better idea than I did. I've no idea of what to do or to try. apparently it doesn't do this error on Ubuntu Feisty.01:11
[GhOsT]is there anyone have/had any problem with usplash/splashy in (k)ubuntu gutsy 7.10 64-bit ?01:11
il12Dr_willis: no, I attempt to launch the game and it says it is already running.01:12
mani213whats the best place to get mouse theme?01:12
Dr_willisil12,  Interesting.. got a URL? ill try it real fast.01:12
sourcemakeralwrwr2003: it's just have 5,2K --- right?01:13
Schuenemannmani213, kde-look.org01:13
alwrwr2003the nvidia-glx is 13 MB01:13
alwrwr2003i'm downloading it right now01:13
Schuenemann!nvidia | alwrwr200301:13
ubotualwrwr2003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
Schuenemannhave you read that?01:13
Alcherahas anyone installed NUT (Network UPS Tools) ?01:14
alwrwr2003no i didn't01:14
sourcemakerSchuenemann: I will use the lastest version available... not the current kernel version--- this does not work01:14
il12dr_willis: http://lastchaos.aeriagames.com/download01:14
Schuenemannsourcemaker, really? latest version of what?01:14
alwrwr2003i've installed nvidia-glx now01:15
sourcemakerSchuenemann: the kernel version... and all it's dependencies01:15
Schuenemannsourcemaker, how did you set it up?01:16
sourcemakerSchuenemann: It does not work...01:16
Schuenemannwhat doesn't?01:16
il12dr_willis: this site, however, seems to present a 'crack' that you can use to bypass this 'error'..     http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=970801:16
sourcemakerI am sorry... but I will install Gentoo on this system... It's not a option for me for waiting 4 months... for getting the wlan card to work...01:17
killer_dolphin seems to hide any information that is useful01:18
Dr_willisil12,  cracks are normally for copy protection. :) id hope a free game has none01:18
killer_may end up uninstalling it01:18
il12dr_willis: well, apparently there is a 'cheat protection' which is what gives me the error that says it is already running.01:18
sourcemakerNeoFax: I resign...01:19
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Dr_willisil12,  dont see how thats cheating really..  every other MMORPG out allows multi instances. :)01:20
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mani213whats the best msn for linux?01:20
Schuenemannmani213, I think amsn01:20
mani213any other ones01:20
mani213i tried amsn wasnt really all that01:20
il12dr_willis: me neither, it's just what I found on this site: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=970801:20
Schuenemannwell, at least it's what looks more like M$ msn01:20
NeoFaxsourcemaker: What's wrong now?01:20
il12dr_willis: it's in the first comment that it explains the issue. *shrug* now I just need to -find- that app.01:21
Schuenemannmani213, there is also pidgin and kopete, but they are generic IM's and don't look like MSN. Why didn't you like amsn?01:21
sourcemakerNeoFax: nothing is working... :-) I have installed all the modules... but nvidia is not coming up...01:21
Dr_willisil12,  yep. Saw that.. no links given to find it. :)01:21
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Did you installed the restricted drivers module01:21
mani213amsn doesnt have the sound when i get a message01:21
mani213or is it i didnt install the mother board driver yet?01:21
sourcemakerNeoFax: And for the moment... I think.. I do not understand alle the specifics of ubuntu..01:21
Schuenemannmani213, it does01:21
Schuenemannmani213, is your sound working anywhere?01:22
il12dr_willis: yeah.... but I've no other solution. There are other comments that others cannot find this either.01:22
mani213yeye when i log into linux i hear  the sound as well ass logging off01:22
alwrwr2003ok guys i enabled nvidia acceleration through restricted drivers module01:22
alwrwr2003and it's need the computer to be restarted01:22
NeoFaxGoing to watch a movie.  will see you all tomorrow! G'Night!01:22
alwrwr2003thank u all for ur help01:23
alwrwr2003i'm restarting my computer and i will be right back01:23
Schuenemannmani213, well, I there is sound in preferences. I disable because I think it's annoying01:23
mani213lol kk thanks ill play around with it01:24
Schuenemannmani213, I prefer it than M$'s. I can disable most of the annoying things and it has plugins01:25
sourcemakerNeoFax: It's there any internal documentation available... how Kubuntu works... (technical details)?01:25
killer_hmm.. hald is looking more like a winbox util,  no known ways to configure it, users are locked out of when thehy shouldn't be01:25
mani213one more question you know how the mac computers have that shortcut i cons on the dock what do i need to get that for linux01:25
killer_looks like th best way to run kubuntu gutsy is just to use root as your main login01:26
sourcemakerNeoFax: I am not interessted in asking stupid questions... without success... maybe I am wrong... and have forgot a important step...01:26
killer_sorry all for ranting .. but I'm finding kubuntu less useable each distro01:27
killer_I install a new version, then find I spend hours trying to things I need on a daily basis, that I could do previously01:27
il12why is the Kubuntu .iso file larger than the Ubuntu .iso file?01:28
il12ok nvm that's kind of an obvious question.01:30
mani213whats a good program to get that icon dock for linux?01:30
killer_anyone know how to configure hald to allow uid 1000 to have access and not be blocked?01:32
Dr_williskiller_,  ive heard thers some hal/uid1000/mounting some drives issue/bug. but never seen a de-facto reason for it all01:35
Dr_willisI just mount the things manually :)01:35
killer_hmm.. possibly could change my user to uid 500 may resolve it01:36
killer_but I'd actually like to know how to configure it, and not work around it01:36
Dr_willisim wonder ing if its more of a 'all users cant access it'  1000 is the default initial user.01:38
killer_Dr_willis: I mount things manually too, but I'm trying to get people to use kubuntu instead of windows, and problems I could solve with a click or two in Mandrake 9.2 seem increasingly impossible w/ kubuntu01:38
Dr_williskiller_,   i find the problems with 'adding user friendly features' to be the bigger and bigger issue these days.01:38
killer_I've been using kubuntu as my only workstation since 6.101:38
Dr_willissinve ive not experienced the user1000 hald issue.. i cant really say what the deal is or how to fix it.01:39
killer_I thought the 'motto' of ubuntu was to make linux useable to the masses.. so I've been promoting it to lots of people01:39
Dr_willisI imagine theres a 100+ page forume thing is.01:39
Dr_williskiller_,  one bug does not mean the whole OS is trash.. if thats the case. all of them are Trash.01:40
Dr_willisi found gutsy to work fine on all my machines. I cant even recall any issues. I did do Clean installs on them all also. Not upgrades01:40
killer_Dr_willis: no.. it doesn't I still use it dedicatedly.. but win-only users should be able to find answers w/o even calling me, and that hasn't been happeening01:41
killer_-e01:41
Dr_willisIm reminded of all the windows-tech support i do at work all day. :)01:42
Dr_willisBut automounting is still 100% better then it was say 2 years ago.. and i imagine it will only getbetter01:43
BreetaiHi all, I am running gusty on a system where I have loaded the nvidia restricted drivers. How do I get the cool compiz effects?01:43
BreetaiI don't see any way to turn them on or control them.01:44
killer_Dr_willis: I agree.. don't misinterpret me, I'm not dogging the OS.. I like it alot.. I'm trying to learn the changes of the new gutsy distro01:44
firecrotch!compiz-fusion01:44
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:44
Breetaiubotu: thanks alot.01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks alot. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:46
killer_Dr_willis: people say "Im tired of spyware" and tell them to d/l the new kubuntu and install it, call if they have questions01:46
killer_but I almost never update my workstation, I get it working and use it for 3-5 years01:47
Schuenemannkiller_, just curious, who are these "people"?01:47
killer_now I find when I get called, I say "do this" and they respond, "I don't see that"01:47
* Dr_willis checks the forums for hal 1000 refused01:47
killer_customers, cousins, family, strangers who have been pointed to me by others to put onto linux01:47
Dr_willisand what do i find.. one guy basicially teaching the other the linux fundamentals in a thread.. how to sudo.. how to do this.. argh.. time to start skimming :)01:48
killer_and I give them all the advice "just do "man <command>" for all the info you need01:48
killer_now I"m finding more things are missing the man pages01:49
killer_Dr_willis: yep.. someone saying "sudo dolphin" .. I want to configure the OS to work w/ the user, not configure the USER to work around the OS :)01:50
killer_Dr_willis: I think very few need ms windows anymore01:50
killer_most do email, read PDFs browse the web, create documents.. none of which require ms winxp anymore01:51
Dr_willisIm still not even clear on the EXACT PROBLEM. :)01:51
Dr_willisthey go on about the fstab and stuff.. but hald is whats used by the automounting stuff I thought01:51
killer_hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100001:52
Dr_willisan entry in the fstab  makes the automounter ignore it. i thought01:52
Dr_willisand what/when/where is that message appearing?01:52
killer_I need hal-storage-mount-all-options to NOT refuse uid 100001:52
killer_in dolphin, I click one of the hard disk icons that show up01:52
Dr_willisand thers no fstab entry for those hard drives? these are removeable or Non remvoeable hds ?01:53
killer_so I installed gutsy and open storage media, then click an HD, that's as far as I got01:53
nosrednaekimkiller_: modify its settings in systemsettings->advanced->disks and filesystems01:53
killer_nosrednaekim: that brought me to my second problem. I could not get administrator mode,01:53
nosrednaekimkiller_: what happened.01:54
killer_nosrednaekim: I had to do sudo systemsettings01:54
Dr_williskiller_,  ive noticed that in some of the config  apps - the 'administartor mode' button is off the bottom of the screen.01:54
Dr_willismaxamize the window will make it show up properly01:54
nosrednaekimyeah01:55
Dr_willisI thionk part of that is due to how some of them are 'embeded' in the system settings tool01:55
killer_nosrednaekim: I click administrator mode, and it goes gray, then goes bright again and never asks for password01:55
Dr_willisHmm.. now thats different. :)01:55
nosrednaekimkiller_: well, running kdesuso systemsettings should work...01:56
nosrednaekim*kdesudo01:56
killer_nosrednaekim: yep... I've had to do that in the past, and a logout/login may fix that also, but I'd like to know why it's broke,01:57
nosrednaekimkiller_: don't really know... but lets get back to your disk mounting. can you modify it in that tool?01:57
killer_nosrednaekim: I quit using windows in 2001 because I got tired of needless logouts and reboots01:58
nosrednaekimno need for a reboot...01:58
nosrednaekimor logout.01:58
Dr_willisHmm.. all the fix's i see for the uid1000 issue. are basicially 'put a proper entry in the fstab' :)01:59
killer_nosrednaekim: when I try to modify  the partition settings, it places an entry in fstab that breaks dolphin01:59
nosrednaekimkiller_: how does it break it? what does it say?01:59
wryhavin trouble with adept... more or less can't find anything and I've apparently selected the multi and universe repositories02:00
nosrednaekimwry: did you press the "reload(or whatever its called)" button02:00
killer_Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: I don't see an entry for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab, but it's in dolphin..02:00
wryyup02:00
nosrednaekimwry: did you go to adept->manage repositories and check all the options except source code?02:01
wryI've tried to upgrade too, but it crashes at 50%02:01
killer_nosrednaekim: I got a "died unexpectedly" message.. sorry for the generic info, but I deleted the fstab entry and was back to the hald uid 1000 issue02:01
wubbaCould someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?02:01
nosrednaekimkiller_: thats ok.02:02
Dr_williskiller_,  this is where the automounting stuff differes from the fstab :) if its in fstab.. its not gettting autopmounted any more by hald. Its gettuing mounted by the system at boot.02:02
Dr_willisOR you can make it where a user can mount it on the fly.02:02
nosrednaekimkiller_: hmm try this "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sda1"02:02
Dr_willisdisk not in fstab, system tryes the hal automounting.. in fstab..hal ignores it. :)02:02
killer_Dr_willis: but it's not mounted.. that's my problem.. I have no access to the /dev/sda1 data02:03
Dr_willisbut the help/threads i am seeing on this - seem to ignreo that fact.02:03
Dr_willisright click on it see if theres a mount menu item?02:03
* Dr_willis tries the obvious02:03
Dr_willisthis is an Exteral USB NTFS drive? or what exactly?02:03
wryhad everything but canpnical and sourcecode selected. I was faffin about w it a few days ago though and think I've tried all of 'em02:04
nosrednaekimwry: and you have the mirror set to the main us one?02:05
killer_Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: ok. I chmod a+rw /dev/sda1 and and dolphin still won't open it02:05
wryNosre: trying it again now... seems to have frozen @ 30%... I'll give it some time02:05
nosrednaekimkiller_: still with the uid1000 error?02:06
killer_Dr_willis: this is NTFS on main system drive, I have dual boot so I can access mywindows mobile OS phone programs02:06
killer_nosrednaekim: yep.. still complaining that I"m uid 100002:06
nosrednaekimkiller_: heh... try this "kdesudo dolphin"02:07
nosrednaekimand mount it from there02:07
Dr_williskiller_,  Hmm.. every time ive ever installed Ubuntu. it always puts a entry in the fstab for the IDE/Sata disks.  Could be that IS the issue.. hal isent set to auto-mount those drives. only external/removeable ones.02:07
nosrednaekimbut as a warning, you won't be able to read it anywhere else..02:07
killer_nosrednaekim: I get a DCOP error from kdesudo dolpin02:08
Dr_willisfor my needs the proper way to mount my ntfs filesystems is to use the ntfs-3g tool and put the proper entrys in fstab.02:08
nosrednaekimkiller_: that shouldn't be fatal.02:08
alwrwr2003hi guys02:09
killer_nosrednaekim: aah.. so it wasn't fatal, after clicking OK.. I eventually get a dolphin window02:09
alwrwr2003the compiz worked fine with me !02:09
alwrwr2003but how can i use the 3D Box ?02:09
killer_nosrednaekim: Dr_willis: and as root I have a clickable accessable /dev/sda102:09
nosrednaekimalwrwr2003: install the compizconfig-settings-manager02:09
killer_so the drive can indeed be mounted if I want to be root02:10
alwrwr2003installed but i didn't know how to use it02:10
killer_which is the last thing I'm going to tell a newbie to do on the phone02:10
nosrednaekimalwrwr2003: "ccsm"02:10
nosrednaekimkiller_: yeah. I think that issue was just fixed in hardy02:10
wubbaCould someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?02:11
nosrednaekim!hardware | wubba02:11
KkValetekKhello all02:11
ubotuwubba: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:11
alwrwr2003it's worked but what is the shortcut for the 3D box?02:11
gauss_What is some good software for burning an avi to a DVD so it can be played on a DVD player?02:11
Dr_williskiller_,  so as root the device automounted>?02:11
KkValetekKcan anybody tell me how do I put a game in fullscreen? (not wine)02:11
nosrednaekimalwrwr2003: ctrl+alt+arrow keys02:12
nosrednaekim!dvd02:12
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:12
killer_dr_willis yep.. kdesudo dolphin works  as expected02:12
gauss_ubotu: I for some ungodly reason can't get k9copy to work on my system :(02:12
Dr_williskiller_,  it could be the device was mounted beforhand BUT when it got mounted by 'root' and that is why the user couldent access it.02:12
alwrwr2003i see 2 compiz tray icons is that normal?02:12
gauss_well then.. lol02:12
Dr_willisprolem with this problem is that i cant get it to even do it on my system so i cant test it. :)02:13
nosrednaekimDr_willis: very probable...02:13
killer_Dr_willis: "df" showed no mount02:13
nosrednaekimoh.....02:13
Dr_williskiller_,  is there some reason you dont mount the filesystems with ntfs-3g at boot time?02:14
Dr_willisIf the user wants full access to the ntfs disks - thats how to do it,.02:14
killer_Dr_willis: nope.. I think it should be read-only mounted at install w/o asking the user on dual boot machines02:14
Dr_willisI thought the installer asked where to mount the ntfs/windows disks TO.. if you left the mount point blank. I thouhg it dident mount them at all.02:15
Dr_willisThis may be a diff in the alternaive and Live Cd installer02:15
nosrednaekimkiller_: FYI... you can right click on the device in dolphin->actions->open as root...02:15
Dr_willisnosrednaekim,  thats scary02:15
Dr_willis:)02:15
nosrednaekimof course... it'll prompt you for a password02:16
killer_nosrednaekim: I don't mind open as root if read-only02:16
alwrwr2003is it normal to see 2 compiz tray icons?02:16
alwrwr2003how can i cancel 102:16
nosrednaekimalwrwr2003: did the cube ork?02:16
killer_nope I take out "mount as user" and still can't mount02:16
alwrwr2003well i can use it from inside but i don't know how to use it from outside02:17
nosrednaekimthats a setting in the settings manager somewhere02:17
gauss_Does anyone know of any DVD burning software that will burn an avi to player-ready DVD?02:18
Dr_willisgauss_,  they exist.. but they are not 1 click and its done - sort of things...02:18
Dr_willistovid is one.. it also has a guy02:18
Dr_willisgui :) as an option02:19
Dr_willisbut it dident work properly for me the other day02:19
alwrwr2003ok i see 2 compiz icons tray is this normal?02:19
BluesKajgauss_, check the dvdplayer for the divx logo, it may not be necessary to recode the avi files, most are divx or xvid now.02:19
gauss_sweet, thanks02:20
BluesKajI recently discovered that fact about my elcheapo koss player02:20
Dr_willisk3b  has some neat features that i have never used.. :)02:20
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  been wanting to get one of those also.. but too cheap02:20
ArwenI've got a problem with my virtual consoles. When I switch to them, I just get a flashing cursor.02:21
BluesKaj100$ Dr_willis02:21
Dr_williswhats an emovixdvd anyway :) k3b has that. never seen that befor02:21
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  that will make like 6 the # of dvd players i got around here. :)02:21
Dr_williswaiting for the dvd plyares that can also work as UpNP clients. :)02:22
killer_Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: brb.. gonna do a relogin to see if it fixes the administrator mode02:22
nosrednaekimArwen: which ones? f1-6?02:22
Arwenyeah02:22
nosrednaekimArwen: you using ATI?02:23
Arwenyes02:23
nosrednaekimyeah... its a problem with ATI's...02:23
BluesKajgauss_,  make sure you choose the dvd data option when burning avi files due to the fact that K3B balks at avi files in general , silly but true02:23
Arwennosrednaekim, is there a remedy?02:23
nosrednaekimArwen: don't remember... probably. search google for it02:24
Dr_willisHmm  - I only burn dvd data.. :) never really noticed the other features till now02:24
BluesKajDr_willis, yeah, we're on our 4th dvdp , but so far this one has outlasted the others : )02:25
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  we bought like 5 2 yrs ago for $20 a pop.. of course they wouldent play a large # of comercial dvds sadly02:27
Dr_willisCool. K3b can do emovix - making a live cd that plays video files.. heh02:27
killer_nosrednaekim: ok a relogin fixed administrator mode, and I now have dolphin access to read-only /dev/sda102:28
nosrednaekimeven without being root?02:28
killer_I think that's because I did an OEM install, and created my user afterwords02:28
nosrednaekimpossibly..02:29
nonewmsgshow do you run a .bat file with wine02:29
killer_nosrednaekim: I configured the /media/sda1 mount in system settings-> disk&filesystems, then just open dolphin as a regular user02:29
killer_also set it to mount at boot time02:29
nosrednaekimkiller_: cool :D... so everything is good now?02:30
wrynosrednaekim: I tried the main srver, it stalled at 30%. I wen away and came back. Seemed to be done but still no results for my searches. Trying the Australian server now and it's stopped at 30% again02:32
nosrednaekimwry: thats weird.02:32
Arwengah, I need my consokles02:33
nosrednaekimArwen: it has something to do with the fglrx driver and the framebuffer driver02:33
Arwennot using fglrx02:33
wrynosrednaekim: your tellin me! You know where I can get another apt frontend like syaptic or the like?02:33
killer_nosrednaekim: well02:34
ticat85hey, can anyone give me a bit of advice on installing from tar files using Kinstaller?02:34
nosrednaekimwry: well, if "apt-get update" doesn't work from the commandline, nothing will.02:34
killer_nosrednaekim: I'd like to know how to administrate hald, but that can wait for another day I suppose02:34
killer_nosrednaekim: how bout "sudo apt-get update"02:35
nosrednaekimkiller_: heh, yeah... that'd probably get ver complicated :D02:35
Arwennosrednaekim, I'm not using fglrx, so do you have any other idea what might be wrong?02:35
nosrednaekimkiller_: come to think of it.... yes, that would work a bit better...02:35
BluesKajticat85, kinstaller?02:35
ticat85yes, Kinstaller02:35
ticat85running into some ./configure error02:36
nosrednaekimArwen: oh! hmmm. no I don't, though I think I heard tell of that happening with the OSS driver too. again, search google02:36
Arwenyeah, I did, only hearing about fglrx...02:37
BluesKajticat85, some tar files don't have the configure or even make files02:37
ticat85:| humm, well I'm all new to this - installed Kubuntu all of 3 days ago - I wasn't aware of this02:38
ticat85any ideas for installing some files for Sopcast or Gamefu?02:38
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robertshow do i get HD Intel Audio working on feisty 7.04?02:39
BluesKajticat85, which app are you trying to install ?02:39
nosrednaekim!sound | roberts02:39
uboturoberts: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:39
wrynosrednaekim: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.02:40
ticat85BluesKaj, I'm trying to install the Sopcast (P2P Tv client) and Gamefu (multi-emulator frontend)02:40
wrynosrednaekim: that'd be the problem, yaeh?02:40
nosrednaekimwry: thats very odd! switch to the US columbia mirror since I know that one works(i use it)02:40
arrrghhhi can't figure out how to get ls to list everything page by page - i read the man file for ls, there's nothing in there that mentions sectioning out results...02:40
robertsright, the sound system is running02:40
nosrednaekimarrrghhh: you may want du..02:41
wrynosrednaekim: in the command line I assume?02:41
ticat85BluesKaj, or more specifically: Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz02:41
nosrednaekimwry: no... in adept02:41
arrrghhhwell in windows, dir /p did the job.02:41
BluesKajsorry ticat85 , dunnno anything about game apps, and not familiar with Sopcast02:41
arrrghhhnosrednaekim: du is for file sizes and essentially the footprint of that directory on your hdd... am i wrong?02:42
ticat85BluesKaj, well how about this: how would you normally go about installing any program from a downloaded TAR file without the configure file included02:42
nosrednaekimarrrghhh: no... but it does preint them out kinda by page (DIR by DIR)02:43
arrrghhhder you have to pipe it... ls ~ more02:43
arrrghhhwell not tilde but the straight line (for pipe)02:43
Dr_willisls | more02:43
arrrghhhja... that's the one.  someone in the linux channel suggested it.02:43
Dr_willisBash Basics :)02:44
BluesKajticat85, right click on the tar files and choose properties , click the permissions tab and check 'is executable' box before trying to install those files02:44
arrrghhhyea, i just figured it would be a switch from the man ls, like ls -p or something02:44
arrrghhhkinda counter-intuitive if you ask me, having to pipe it but whatever that works.02:44
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  i find it VERY VERY intuituve02:45
ticat85BluesKaj, what would this accomplish in the long run? sorry I just want to know the basics... as I said, new to this02:45
wrynosrednaekim: still stalling at 30%02:45
BluesKajticat85, I've run into that prob myself and have yet to find the answer02:45
Dr_willisexpecting every program to have its own pageing feture is  counter-productive02:45
nosrednaekimwry: which one is it stalling on?02:45
nosrednaekimuniverse?security?02:46
BluesKajticat85, there are ppl here who know02:46
wrynosrednaekim: am I to assume that I've just got a dodgey distro?02:46
arrrghhhDr_willis: i see what you're saying, i am not used to piping output on the cli... new concept to me.  old habits die hard.02:46
nosrednaekimwry: probably not.02:46
ticat85BluesKaj, well if anyone does know :) please chime in anytime now! anyone? please?:(02:46
nosrednaekimwry: probably just a bad sources.list.... are you running gutsy?02:46
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  try          alias lm = 'ls | more'02:46
BluesKajnosrednaekim, how does one install tar files that don't contain configure , make make install02:46
Dr_willishmm thats not ruight.. lets see02:47
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ouch.... with some fancy gcc stuff, but i'm not a C person.02:47
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wrynosrednaekim: cc.columbia.edu02:47
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arrrghhhi think i can remember to pipe the output... i just need to get used to the bash.02:47
flaccidBluesKaj: reading the doco provided with the program02:47
nosrednaekimwry: and...02:47
flaccidor in the archive eg. README, INSTALL02:47
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  try          alias lm='ls | more'02:47
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  heh heh i got all sorts of little scripts/aliases for tasks like that02:48
wrynosrednaekim: stoppin at 30%02:48
IAmWillanyone know how to get "MCP51 High Definition Audio" working??02:48
BluesKajflaccid, that's a pretty glib answer there areno install readmes with some of the files02:48
arrrghhhyea, i've written some bash scripts to like remove all .torrent files from my desktop etc, but the whole piping output is a new concept to me.02:48
flaccidBluesKaj: yeah thats the fault of the packager/maintainer. what are you trying to install?02:48
IAmWillARTS is running, but no sound02:48
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  linux is like 'layers of legos' :) rember that.02:48
Dr_willisNot Like an Onion.. :P02:48
DragnslcrIAmWill- are you using digital output?02:49
arrrghhhDr_willis: certainly... i do like having choices, i just wish they included that little tid-bit in the ls man page...02:49
nosrednaekimwry: what the line its stalling on? pate it here02:49
IAmWillDragnslcr, its a laptop02:49
flaccidthere might be a binary installer in there BluesKaj who knows02:49
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Dr_willisarrrghhh,  its not an ls feature, or issue at all. :)02:49
DragnslcrIAmWill- check all of the channels in alsamixer and kmix, make sure none of them are muted02:49
Dr_willisarrrghhh,  should they also mention, sort, and sed, and awk, and tail, and........ :)02:50
BluesKajticat85 is trying to install install Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz02:50
ticat85BluesKaj, the Gamefu tar file includes a: CMakeLists.txt, Copying, Design, Install, Readme files02:50
Dr_willisarrrghhh,   Joys of Linux FUNdaMENTALS :)02:50
ticat85blueskaj, as well as a Makefile.am02:50
nosrednaekimoh! cmake!02:50
flaccidticat85: what is that and where did you get it from02:50
nosrednaekimticat85: read that "Install" file02:50
flaccidticat85: as advised read the install and readme files02:51
ticat85flaccid, Gamefu-0.2.beta1-source.tar.gz02:51
arrrghhhok, ls lists files right?  wouldn't you thinhk the ls man file would include directions on how to list files line-by-line or in a manner that you can flip through them?  i can't find the words to describe that...02:51
ticat85flaccid, will do... ill remain on the channel :)02:51
ticat85i also have another question though involving mythTV02:51
wrynosrednaekim: there aint no line. Just says 30% down the bottom. Nothing at all written above it02:51
IAmWillDragnslcr, nothing is muted02:51
nosrednaekimwry: this is on the command line?02:51
wrynosrednaekim: in adept02:52
flaccid!ask | ticat8502:52
ubotuticat85: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:52
nosrednaekimwry: ah... kill adept and run "sudo apt-get update" from the command line. and paste the line it stalls on02:52
BluesKajwell, i was trying to install FF 3 beta 2 , but it has no configure. make , or makeinstall files the readmes aren't at all helpfull...no instructins02:52
ticat85flaccid, the install file seems to be saying something i was missing :(02:52
flaccidcool ticat85. yeah INSTALL and README are pretty standard for instructions :)02:53
ticat85haha, alright - in MythTV i am having trouble with my videocard02:53
ticat85err02:53
ticat85capture card02:53
* flaccid dislikes no instructions02:53
ticat85averTV model, fairly old02:53
flaccid!capture02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:53
wrynosrednaekim: k.. hang on02:53
anon32anyone know how I can make Konversation stop flashing my taskbar whenever someone says anything?02:53
flaccidi think there is a support list somwhere02:53
BluesKajticat85, you might consider TVtime02:54
flaccidanon32: i think its in settings | configure notifications02:54
ticat85BluesKaj, tried it - it only recognizes my USB webcam02:54
flaccid!mythtv | ticat8502:54
ubotuticat85: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV02:54
BluesKajok ticat8502:55
nosrednaekimanon32: in settings->configure konversation->behavior->general02:55
flaccidticat85: only thing else to check is google. your card is probably not supported perhaps02:55
flaccidalso check dmesg and logs to see how the system treats the device02:55
BluesKajmythtv is a bit daunting for ppl new to linux02:55
flaccidhopefully mythtv is easier now that they have fixed the package02:55
ticat85flaccid / BluesKaj, *sigh* I hate learning curves, kk ill check it out02:55
anon32nosrednaekim, not seeing it02:55
ticat85it recognizes the device as dev/video1, my webcam as dev/video002:56
Dragnslcranon32- it might be under Configure Notifications02:56
ticat85so why TVtime only sees dev/video0 is beyond me02:56
anon32Dragnslcr, yeah, but according to that, all my notifications are off02:56
ticat85BluesKaj, TVtime will not let me change my video source in the menu :(02:57
flaccidanon32: must be somewhere else sorry. not sure where02:57
Dragnslcranon32- I would guess that it's Configure Notifications -> New message arrived on a channel02:58
BluesKajcomposite 1 -2 etc ?02:58
anon32*shrug* ah well, now back to my framebuffer. Hmm.02:58
flaccidsee man tvtime to see how to specify a different device maybe it has a switch02:58
nosrednaekimanon32: its in there right whee I said..02:58
flaccidi think its tvtime --device=/dev/video102:59
flaccidthere might be a tvtime-configure binary as well02:59
ticat85flaccid, ill try that right now02:59
ticat85flaccid, it wooooork! success!03:00
ticat85now only if my grammar worked :(03:00
flaccidhehe sweet03:01
ticat85flaccid, now why doesn't it work with mythTV?03:01
flaccidnot sure, i aint used that beast in ages03:01
BluesKajbeast is a true term for it03:02
ticat85flaccid, is there a way to permanently keep dev/video1 as the device for TVtime03:02
nosrednaekim'night everyone03:02
BluesKajnight mike03:02
ticat85I restarted the program and its back as dev/video0 is the source03:02
flaccidticat85: yeah via configuration iirc03:03
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ticat85flaccid, say configawhatnow?03:03
flaccidum it uses xml config files iirc. but i can't remember how to use them. google says lots..03:04
ticat85flaccid, is it a file I can find via dolphin?03:04
flaccidticat85: have a look in ~/.tvtime03:04
ticat85flaccid, and that would be...? in the root somewhere03:05
ticat85again, new, normally I'd be "PROGRAM FILES" but alas, no windows03:05
flaccidum ~ stands for home03:06
flaccidits a real location. not sure how to get to address bar in dolphin sorry..03:06
ticat85hmm03:07
ticat85says "no such file or directory"03:07
flaccidwere you running tvtime under root or normal user03:07
ticat85tvtime.xml?03:07
flaccidyes03:07
ticat85found it :)03:07
flaccidi'd say so. still you probably havnt googled yet03:07
ticat85nadda, been looking for the file... now that I have it03:08
flaccidwell i got a tvtuner inbuilt to this notebook so i'll install tvtime03:08
ticat85open with Kate or Kwrite?03:09
flaccidany text editor. not there is a bug and i just got it! ~/.local/share/application03:09
flaccidoops03:09
flaccidi mean look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61250003:09
flaccidmight need to do a sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` ~/.tvtime03:10
jaylc185Hey I installed kdevelop 3.5 but I don't know how to make it, i want to program in perl and C/C++, can anyone help?03:10
ticat85damn, i needed to edit as root03:11
ticat85this root thing is really annoying :(03:11
Dr_willisticat85,  untill it saves your backside03:11
flaccidincorrect. read the above thread which makes the ownership of the config under root when it shouldn't03:11
flaccidonce you know how to use root/sudo and when not to use it etc. there is no frustration03:11
ticat85i know sudo bash :)03:12
Dr_willisIf the file is not in your home dir.. you need to edit/change it as root.. :)03:12
flaccidthats not a command you should run03:12
Dr_willissytem wide chabnges neesd root.03:12
ticat85really? but its so handy03:12
flaccidwell i wouldn't say system wide, i'd say files that require root perms03:12
Dr_willisusing root  when you dont need to or making root shells like that and foreggint them.. can cause problems03:12
flaccidticat85: its not handy. please read !root03:12
dthackersudo is good.  sudo will save your posterior03:12
Voriansudo thank you dthacker03:13
Vorian:)03:13
ticat85why can't I just be root all the time? like administrator03:13
dthacker:003:13
flaccidticat85: because that would be insecure03:13
Vorianticat85, why would you want or need to do that?03:13
ardchoilleticat85: Because one mistake and you system is gone03:13
ardchoille!sudo03:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:14
ticat85hmm I'll take your multi-words for it :|03:14
flaccidan application has a bug that removes files that should be protected for example03:14
Vorianticat85, :) good choice03:14
ticat85flaccid, I've changed:   <option name="V4LDevice" value="/dev/video1"/>03:14
ticat85but now when TVtime comes up i get a grainy green screen03:14
flaccidthink about why windows was considered totally insecure prior to NT and firewall. there was only 1 user which could do anything.03:14
dthackerticat85: I suspect most of us like sudo because we've done something silly and costly as root.03:14
Dr_willisone TYPO with rm -rf    as root = gone system :)03:15
ticat85flaccid, nvm now it's okay :|03:15
ardchoilleRight03:15
flaccidticat85: here is some good info/guide: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/usage.html03:16
ticat85flaccid, ty I will definatly book mark that as of now :)03:16
flaccidcool03:17
ticat85flaccid, now I'm working on my previous install from tar problem03:17
flaccidtvtime does rock besides that stupid bug03:17
flaccidwell im going to find an antennae so i can see something in tvtime heh03:17
ticat85does anyone have good/bad things to say about Fiire?03:17
BluesKajyeah, tvtime is much easier to setup in the later distros , dapper was terrible ...much better now03:18
BluesKajwell, sacktime for me ...lots to do tomorrow , no more procrastination ,it'll be Christmas Eve...Merry Christmas to all & to all a good night :)03:20
Dr_willisI gotta go shopping! egads!03:22
ticat85Dr_willis, well you better hope you have Monday off then :|03:22
Dr_willisi got the week off. :)03:22
ticat85same here, only week of vacation this year though :(03:23
Dr_williswe may have a down week Jan 11-18th.03:23
ticat85wtf the install file says i need a "Autoconf" program to make my configure file :(03:23
Dr_willisBut Nooo.. they couldnet have it right after our vacation week. :)03:23
flaccid!info autoconf03:24
ubotuautoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-4 (gutsy), package size 437 kB, installed size 1676 kB03:24
ticat85blah :( why can't things just be uniform when installing files, like using adapt03:24
flaccidticat85: install the package build-essential03:24
flaccid!compile | ticat8503:24
ubotuticat85: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)03:24
Dr_willisIf you want to use source.. you need to learn to use source.. :)03:24
flaccidticat85: because people make programs differently. you are compiling source code.03:24
Dr_williscompiling from source is a whole lot better then it used to be at least.03:25
ticat85can't it come pre-complied in a nice little bowed package?03:25
Dr_williswhat are you even compiling?03:25
BenjaminDhello. when i install a tar ball, in what folder should i keep the extracted files?03:25
flaccidticat85: yes it can. is it available, did you check?03:25
Dr_willisBenjaminD,  depends on what it is.03:25
ticat85nah, these were the files given on the websites03:25
BenjaminDberyl03:25
BenjaminDbut as a general rule?03:26
ticat85i think they are windows ports made by someone03:26
Dr_willisBenjaminD,  why not just install compiz?03:26
flaccidticat85: yeah so the devs have not packaged for debian/ubuntu03:26
Dr_willis!compiz03:26
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion03:26
ticat85No autoconf in my adept installer :(!03:26
Dr_willisBenjaminD,  a properly done source archive wll uncompress to its own directory.03:26
BenjaminDcompiz put a white border around my menu's03:26
flaccid!repos | ticat8503:26
ubotuticat85: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:26
flaccid!adept | ticat8503:27
Dr_willisyou may want to make a 'workspace' dir to put them in.03:27
ubotuticat85: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:27
BenjaminD/workspace/03:27
Dr_willisBenjaminD,  try some other compiz themes perhaps. From what i gather beryl is dead.03:27
flaccidticat85: need to install the relevant repos first. please read the links03:27
BenjaminDit is03:27
BenjaminDbut i still like it03:27
ticat85kk i will... so much reading to do :(03:27
flaccidyeah half of nix is reading sometimes03:27
makuseruhi, in pidgin, when im a direcrly connected to people, and they send me pictures, or i send pictures, part of the picture will display then the rest will just be black. what causes this and how can i fix it?03:28
Dr_willisother half is rembering where ya saw somthing - so you can go back and reread it.03:28
flaccidmakuseru: not sure try #pidgin or #gaim and or submit a bug via !bugs03:28
ticat85in the adept manager what is the "build-essentials" package called?03:28
Dr_willis'build-essential'03:28
ticat85nvm03:28
ticat85found it03:28
flaccidyeah i guess i just bookmark hectic in opera, but i fail to categorise the bookmarks - at least you can search em in opera quickly03:29
ticat85overlooked it *doh*03:29
flaccidhehe03:29
Dr_willissudo apt-get install build-essential03:29
Dr_willis:)03:29
makuseruflaccid: there all dead in there03:29
flaccidi like to encourage desktop users to use the graphical package manager hahah03:29
ticat85can you tell im new? :( *sigh* how long till I get good at Linux?03:29
flaccidmakuseru: might have to try over a period of days03:29
flaccidticat85: not very long you are already on the path03:29
Dr_willis!training03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about training - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:29
ardchoilleticat85: That depends on how much you read and how fast you learn :)03:29
il12can anyone recommend a good .iso burner for Linux?03:30
Dr_willisBummer03:30
Dr_willisil12,  k3b can do that.03:30
flaccid!info k3b | il1203:30
ubotuil12: k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4916 kB, installed size 9436 kB03:30
ticat85well... i have a week to read03:30
ticat85so no one has comments on Fiire products?03:30
il12Whoot, ty.03:30
ticat85i was thinking about getting the FiireEngine :S03:30
Dr_willisFiire? never heard of them03:30
flaccidnever heard of fiire03:30
ticat85Linux MCE pre-packaged systems03:30
Schuenemannit burns if you touch it03:30
ticat85they have a neat VESA mounted pc thing03:30
flaccidmce ?03:30
* Dr_willis is lost..03:31
ticat85Media Centre Edition... its a port of Kubuntu03:31
flaccidsounds commercial03:31
Dr_willisI just use MythTV03:31
Schuenemannyou have a capture card?03:31
Dr_willisHauppage PVR 15003:31
ticat85www.linuxmce.com03:31
Arwenwtf, I get a blue square when trying to watch any video in Gutsy03:31
flaccidi just use my 24inch monitor with HD heh03:31
Arwenand no, there's no compiz going on03:31
ticat85www.fiire.com03:32
SchuenemannArwen, any error in konsole?03:32
Arwenno03:32
ticat85flaccid, so now I have the build-essentials what did that solve?03:32
Schuenemannmaybe the video is a blue square?03:32
Arwengod, 7.10 is a whole box of nightmares03:32
Dr_willisbuild-essential installs the core essential packages needed to compile stuff03:32
flaccidticat85: well if you read any of the articles we told you to read, it gives you the build suite (including autoconf)03:33
ticat85flaccid, readddding :( fine03:33
flaccidhehe03:33
flaccidin your case autoconf was obviously a dep to compile the program. ubuntu by default does not come with build-essential installed which has the compilers and so forth - people dont need them by default03:34
flaccid!find mce03:34
ubotuFound: mce-dev, mcelog, tinymce, tinymce-doc03:34
flaccid!info mce-dev03:34
ubotumce-dev: development files for mce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.6 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 196 kB03:34
flaccid!info mce03:34
ubotuPackage mce does not exist in gutsy03:34
flaccidsorry.03:34
ticat85nice... autoconf is on its way installing03:36
ticat85flaccid, and everyone, thanks for your help by the way03:36
ticat85it's great having some random strangers to ask questions to03:36
il12yayyy I am on my way to burning Kubuntu onto a disc then I get to install it on my external03:36
flaccidsweet as ticat8503:36
* flaccid has to install windows laterr *cringes*03:37
* dthacker sympathizes with flaccid03:37
il12Flaccid: my cousin installed Ubuntu onto his internal HDD (of which he has three, two main ones), and accidentally wiped out his windows OS so now he has to go and get a new CD for it.03:38
flaccidouchy03:38
flaccidi just need it for ableton live03:38
ticat85flaccid, so ive done autoconf... but when i type autoconf into the shell, i cant create files... do i need to be root for this?03:38
flaccidticat85: why would you type the command? you just follow the instructions in the INSTALL and the scripts will use autoconf..03:40
ticat85flaccid,  i have followed the instructions... but i still have no ./configure03:41
ticat85can i send you the install file?03:41
flaccidticat85: you can pastebin the install file03:42
Dr_willistypical installing from source  setup..03:42
Dr_willistar xzvf whatever.tar.gz03:42
Dr_williscd whateverdiritmade03:42
Dr_willis./configure03:42
flaccidlike the de facto standard for source is configure, make, make install but thats just the de facto method, it could be anything as per the INSTALL03:42
ticat85OoOoOoOo....03:43
ticat85kk ill try that03:43
Dr_willisThen after ./configure does it thing. You do 'make' and 'make install'03:43
Dr_willislet me guess.. ya dident cd to the dir?03:43
ticat85no im in the dir03:43
Dr_willis:)03:43
ticat85it's unzipped03:43
ticat85still can't ./configure03:43
Dr_williswhat is this you are trying to compile anyway? got a URL?03:43
ticat85Gamefu-0.203:44
ticat85http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/03:44
navetzhow do i get vmware server03:44
ticat85and ill have to do this for an N64 emulator whatever that one is for linux03:44
Dr_willis!vmwarew03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmwarew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:45
Dr_willis!vmware03:45
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:45
Dr_willisdownload the packages frm the vmware web site. get a free serial # from them.. install :)03:45
flaccid!find gamefu03:45
ubotuPackage/file gamefu does not exist in gutsy03:45
ticat85it's called Kamefu... comes with feisty03:45
ticat85but its an older version03:46
flaccidwhere is the pastebin of the INSTALL03:46
ticat85doesn't allow me to configure my joystick03:46
flaccidticat85: there appears to be a debian package already http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gamefu?content=36846&PHPSESSID=aea0c494598a28c66cc6ad7d584f79d903:46
ticat85woot :)03:47
ticat85humm03:47
flaccidif thats the same thing you want, you don't have to build anything just install the .deb via adept or apt03:47
ticat85it's still the Kamefu03:47
flaccidwell i don't know about the project ticat8503:47
ticat85ive tried that one... i wanted the newer version :(03:47
Jenniferhi03:47
flaccidits always a good idea to google to see if there is packages available to avoid building03:47
flaccidticat85: ok03:48
BenjaminDwhen i am installing a tarball.. what does C compiler cannot create executable mean?03:48
Dr_willisHmm. No ./configure for gamefu kde version... odd...03:48
ticat85Dr_willis: see it's madness!03:48
ticat85no Sopcast on KDE-APPS.org :(03:48
Jennifermy sound works periodically...perhaps something to do with my sound driver..anybody ever experience this?03:48
Dr_willisthe SDL version has a ./configure03:49
flaccidticat85: its not madness. show me the doco and i'lll advise what should be done..03:49
Dr_willisflaccid,  it has a .kdevelop file03:49
ticat85flaccid, do i just drag and drop it?03:49
flaccidno03:49
* flaccid waits03:49
il12Is there a way to export my settings and accounts in Kopete?03:49
ticat85how do i share it then?03:49
flaccid!pastebin | ticat8503:49
ubotuticat85: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:49
flaccidil12: i don't believe so, however you could copy the profile/config in ~/.kde03:50
Jenniferhas anybody experienced periodic sound disappearance (or appearance) for HP laptops?03:51
ticat85flaccid, k im just pasting it now03:51
il12flaccid: alright, thank you but I'll pass. Way too new and with my luck I'd screw it up. I'll just reenter all my info. lol. it'll help me get more used to these distros I suppose.03:51
ticat85flaccid, pasted under ticat8503:52
flaccidil12: no worries03:52
ticat85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49455/03:52
flaccidticat85: provide the URL03:52
flaccidthanks03:52
il12must dash, gonna install on my external HDD.03:52
Dr_willishttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/03:53
flaccidticat85: ok it has the standard SF install guide basically03:53
ticat85:( man i suck at this03:53
flaccidticat85: so when you goto the directory you untarred it, and run sh ./configure what do you get ?03:53
ticat85"can't open ./configure"03:54
ticat85is what i get03:54
Dr_willisThere is no configure script in the kde version is why03:54
Dr_willis ./ means 'run the program in the current dir'03:55
flaccidok now pastebin the output from (stay in the directory): ls -lahR; file ./configure03:55
flaccidguys can you provide a link to this archive and i'll look at it too03:55
Dr_willisthere is a  CMakeLists.txt  script. and a   gamefu.kdevelop    i see03:55
Dr_willishttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/03:56
Dr_willisthats the homepage. :) looking at the archive now.03:56
Dr_willisI have the sdl version compilng03:56
flaccidbut which actual file03:56
flaccidticat85: please provide a link to the archive you are actually trying03:56
firecrotchI'm running Kubuntu with compiz-fusion, I'm trying to figure out where the file that stores the setting for the desktop background is03:57
ticat85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49456/03:57
fefferJennifer: sound is usually on or off. Can you offer more detail?03:57
Dr_willishttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=126940&package_id=213045&release_id=46672803:57
Dr_willisHmm that link pasted badly..03:57
ticat85that's the html link though03:57
Dr_willishttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/gamefu/Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.bz2?modtime=1164549031&big_mirror=003:57
Dr_willisthere we go.03:57
ticat85flaccid, look at Dr_willis's post03:57
ticat85Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz03:58
flaccidok ticat85 goto the dir and just do make; sudo make install03:58
flaccidsee if that does it, maybe no configure required03:58
flaccidtechnically you should contact the package maintainer and ask them why the INSTALL is incorrect :(03:58
ticat85flaccid, make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.03:59
flaccidright. Dr_willis you are compiling it atm?03:59
ticat85flaccid, do i need to include a dir for my install file?03:59
Dr_willisflaccid,  trying to....03:59
Dr_willisflaccid,  but not seeing how. and the docs are lacking.04:00
Dr_willisthe sdl version fails to compile also.04:00
Dr_willisSo far,., im thinking this is a Work In progress :)04:00
ticat85noooo, but blah... :(04:00
flaccidim thinking so far it sux :)04:00
flaccidi got it d/l too and it doesn't make sense. this is not infrequent however04:01
ticat85www.sopcast.com/download04:01
Dr_willisthey got a CMakeLists.txt file.. whatever thats for,, :)04:02
ticat85can you use rpm files in KDE to install programs?04:03
Dr_willisMakefile.am - Hmm... whats that .am for?04:03
flaccid!alien | ticat8504:03
ubotuticat85: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)04:03
flaccidits a makefile can't remember exactly04:03
ticat85flaccid, so no :( too dangerous... just like sudo bash :)04:04
flaccidticat85: ok i found it this is beta. you need the latest stable which is Kamefu 0.something04:04
flaccidticat85: not necessarily. its dependent on many things. a lot of alien can be fine.04:04
Dr_willisnight all...04:05
flaccid!find kamefu04:05
ubotuFound: kamefu, kamefu-data, libkamefu-dev, libkamefu004:05
flaccid!info kamefu04:05
ubotukamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB04:05
ticat85ya... i'll install Kamefu04:05
flaccidticat85: install that package. can't really help with the rest, its beta and in dev etc.04:05
ticat85only problem with that is i can't configure my joystick and assign buttons using it04:05
flaccidah well. how do you know this other version will do that?04:06
ticat85i don't i was trying to find out :P04:06
flaccidfair enough04:06
ticat85oh well :( atleast i got TVtime working04:07
flaccidcool04:07
ticat85no sound though....04:07
unix_infidelcan anyone tell me how to setup fonts?04:08
unix_infidelwithout a gui tool?04:08
unix_infidelon gtk apps.04:08
ticat85flaccid, thanks again for your help...im going to go rest my brain :( ttyl04:09
flaccidum there is a binary to install fonts dynamically. can't remember the name of it hmm04:09
ticat85g'night all :) merry xmas and such04:09
flaccid!fonts04:10
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer04:10
flaccidmaybe it says in there04:10
flaccidbrb04:10
jdlizardcan anyone help me with jinzora, i try to access jinzora and it says invalid style liquid04:11
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kristjan_can I download 8.04 iso with kde4?04:12
loronenhow do I change the keyboard settings to dvorak in kubuntu?04:14
zylmakhello04:15
defaulthi all.  has anyone else had problems with Kubuntu burning programs, specifically recognizing blank discs as "empty discs"?  I cannot burn- it just says "please insert cd-r/rw"04:16
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defaulti think its something messed up in my hdparm.conf, but i don't think i should go about messing with it just yet04:18
unix_infidelanyone on my fonts question?04:18
defaultunix_infidel: what was your question?04:19
unix_infideldefault: how do i set them up so they dont look so ugly.04:19
unix_infidelespecially on gtk apps.04:19
unix_infideli've installed msttcorefonts.04:19
Sylphidanyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it04:19
defaultunix_infidel: i've got the perfect tutorial for you... hang on04:19
il12ok, I have started the installer from the LiveCD of Kubuntu and I want to install it on my external HDD.04:20
il12but I'm not -exactly- sure how to do it. I've gotten the installer setup to the part where you select the partitioning configs.04:20
unix_infideldefault: great!04:20
defaultunix_infidel: this was written for Hoary, but it works on all versions of Kubuntu, and your fonts (including GTK) will look much more like M$ "Cleartype" fonts, which i think look rather nice.  ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097604:21
il12what do I need to do to makesure that it goes to the external HDD but does NOT wipe it first?04:21
defaultunix_infidel: read closely and follow each step, and your fonts will be beautiful04:22
unix_infideldefault: wouldnt it just be better to install ms tt fonts?04:22
loronenhow to switch to dvorak keyboard format?04:22
defaultunix_infidel: you'll have the fonts, but you won't have the rendering (sub-pixel hinting and smoothing effects).  Trust me, you will notice the difference04:23
defaultunix_infidel: the tutorial actually has you install those fonts04:23
cumulusWhy can my screen resolution be only 640x400, and 800x600 and not bigger while it was way bigger under windows?04:24
Sylphidloronen: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12580.0;wap204:25
loronensylphid: many thanks04:25
Sylphidcumulus: what kind of video card do you have04:26
cumulusIt is onboard video04:26
cumulusIs there a place I can get you the full name of it?04:26
Sylphidcumulus: ati or nvidia04:26
cumulusIt's some Intel Graphic manager04:26
cumulusNeither, it's on-board, no cards04:26
il12/leave04:27
Sylphidcumulus: what shows up using lspci04:27
flaccidcumulus: lscpi or lshw04:28
Sylphidlspci04:28
cumulus00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)04:28
flaccidsoz Sylphid04:28
flaccidi think you need that extra intel driver thing?04:28
cumulusBoth of these I think04:29
cumulus00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)04:29
cumulus00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)04:29
cumulusProbably04:29
flaccidthat i915 resolution or something04:29
cumulusI would find it on their website?04:29
flaccidlooking now04:29
flaccidthis might be it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e . but can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please04:30
flaccidalso xrandr -q04:30
unix_infidelhmm, too bad firefox doesnt let you pick your DPI anymore04:31
flaccid!info xserver-xorg-video-intel04:32
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)04:32
zylmakgeex i just deleted the trash ho do i putit back im in dolphin04:32
flaccidcumulus: do a sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:32
cumulushttp://pastebin.com/d30e8d87904:33
cumuluscumulus@cumulus-laptop:~$ xrandr -q04:33
cumulusScreen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 60004:33
cumulusdefault connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm04:33
cumulus   800x600        61.0*04:33
cumulus   640x480        60.004:33
flaccidcumulus: do the command above and when asked select the intel driver04:34
flaccid!pastebin | cumulus04:34
cumulusOk04:34
ubotucumulus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:34
flaccidso basically we install and change to intel driver then should have the other resolutions available04:34
cumulusI didn,t think this was large, sorry04:34
cumulusI pastebinned the xorg.conf if you still need it04:34
flaccidabove 3 lines apparently is flood04:35
flaccidanyway see how you go04:35
il12ok, question. on Kopete, from the LiveCD while I am letting the installer resize a partition on my external HDD to install Kubuntu onto it, it crashes whenever I try and sign into MSN.04:36
cumulusI did apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; - and it asks me if I want to install a pack, or keep my version04:36
flaccidum install i think04:36
il12can I install using the LiveCD? I know it won't be there when I shutdown...04:37
flaccidyeah thats what the install shortcut is for on the desktop w/ livecd04:37
il12I mean install something like Pidgin04:37
flaccidyeah you can install, but its not persistant, it will be gone on reboot04:38
flaccidits basically loading it into ram04:38
il12I'm already letting the resizing partition part of the Kubuntu installer take forever on my external HDD........... hasn't even moved off of 0%04:38
il12Ok. ty04:38
flaccidhmm i guess there could be a problem then. is there anything going crazy cpu wise in top or ksysguard?04:39
il12brb04:39
cumulusIt asks me the video bus now04:39
cumulusThere,s PCI:0:2:0 already written, and I can edit it04:40
flaccidjust enter on that04:41
flaccidenter on anything you don't know that needs to be changed. the only thing you probably need to change is driver to "intel"04:41
flaccidand desired resolution if it asks04:42
cumulusShould it use framebuffer?04:42
cumulusOk04:42
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flaccidum press enter. yes or no is ok, probably needs to be on or off for intel i can't recall04:43
lnxkdeguys I am having a problem with firefox, It is slow as hell, and frezees to much when tinking ) I dont get this when I use kubuntu 386) I am using Kubuntu amd6404:43
nide1571low04:44
nide1571hello04:44
flaccidhowdy04:45
cumulusOk, setup completed04:46
cumulusRestart X?04:47
flaccidok now goto kdm and restart X from menu or do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from a tty once logged out04:47
cumulustty is ctrl+alt+F1?04:48
flaccidyep04:48
ardchoillecumulus: yes04:48
cumulusSo, I log off my session, press these keys and do the command you said?04:49
ardchoillecumulus: There are 6, ctrl+alt+f1 for tty1, ctrl+alt+f2 for tty2, etc04:49
cumulusOh ok04:49
flaccidcumulus: yeah and if kdm doesn't come back, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then run startx manual and see the problem in the output04:49
cumulusI'm scared ^04:49
cumulus^^*04:49
cumulusYou scare the noob out of me with all those commands04:49
ardchoillehehe04:50
flaccidhehe. its funny when you help a friend remotely fixing their video and you do this and ask them 'is that better'04:50
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flaccidvia ssh..04:50
cumulusHahaha04:50
ardchoilleflaccid: lol04:50
cumulusOk, I,ll take a breath and try04:50
cumulusit04:50
flaccidthe reaction is usually. thats perfect or its gone all weird! try again heh04:51
cumulusThank you verry much, hope it'll work =)04:51
cumulusOr "It's all black now"? =)04:51
flaccidyeah me too, i hope so. still you should of been able to get more res with the vesa driver i would of thought, but maybe im wrong04:51
cumulusWell, it asked me to select resolutions04:51
flaccidyeah so do what i mentioned above04:51
cumulusBut they were pre-selected04:52
Sylphidanyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it04:52
flaccidSylphid: qtpared04:52
flaccidor fdisk via cli04:52
SolifugusHas anyone experienced any problems upgrading to gutsy (via adept?)04:52
flaccidqtparted i mean sorry04:52
GideanHello all...04:53
cumulusflaccid: you<re a genious =D04:54
GideanThis may sound rediculous but is it possible to contract a computer virus from image files?04:54
flaccidserious?04:54
cumulusThe only thing is that when I go in a tty, my screen simply closes up04:54
flaccidGidean: depends what you did with the image files04:54
flaccidsimply closes up?04:55
cumulusBut there was an option in the programm that handles the session to restar X, forgot the program name04:55
flaccidcumulus: sorry mate um i think its ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to tty for X04:55
flaccidrestarting kdm restarts X basically04:55
cumulusYeah, I used ctrl+alt+F7 to come back04:55
GideanI downloaded a .zip file of osx backgrouds for a gnome box from some wierd website.04:55
cumulusBecause F1 was just closing the screen04:55
DragnslcrGidean- if there's a bug in the program that's rendering the image, yes it's possible04:55
flaccidok so you all good cumulus ?04:55
flaccidcumulus: not sure what you mean, but sounds like its fixed04:56
cumulusNow yep, except that the tty don,t work for me.  Do I need them in my life^04:56
Gideansuddenly these white vector lines began appearing on the screen04:56
Gideanand the panel is all messed up04:56
flaccidcumulus: um no you don't usually need them. sometimes it can be a pain on some systems to go between which is weird. sometimes on old systems have to hold down the ctrl+alt+whatever a bit04:56
cumulusAh, that<s possible04:57
DragnslcrGidean- could just be a bug in X and/or KDE. Tried restarting X?04:57
Sylphidflaccid: qtparted isnt recognizing the device any other ideas?04:57
Gideanthought it might be a bug in X so I rebooted, no fix04:58
cumulusHm, nope, it really closes my screen =) Even the power light turns off04:58
flaccidSylphid: check dmesg and sudo cat /var/log/syslog and also sudo fdisk -l04:58
DragnslcrGidean- I dunno, unless a driver got corrupted somehow04:58
flaccidcumulus: im not sure what you mean or the problem. perhaps a reboot will fix, see if you can just login from kdm and be normal..04:58
GideanI ran dpkg to reconfigure the display...no dice04:59
cumulusWhat happens is.  If I type ctrl+alt+F1, the screen closes.  When I hit ctrl+alt+F7, the graphics come back, it is just that04:59
cumulusAnd damnit I think my keyboard got configured as a US keyboard now in the X configuration, but I will look in the options for that05:00
Sylphidflaccid: it shows the device connected in dmesg and syslog but not fdisk -l05:00
Gideanwhat other driver could have been corrupted?05:00
flaccidcumulus: thats how its meant to be? X runs on a tty which is separate. im not if there is a problem05:00
sat_after installing kubuntu, i chose kde as my default desktop manager. How can I change it to Gnome?05:01
flaccidSylphid: maybe its broken or something. even if its unformatted the disk should appear in fdisk -l via usb mass storage05:01
flaccidsat_: install the package ubuntu-desktop05:01
fildoflaccid: hi !05:02
flaccidheya fildo05:02
Sylphidight thanks flaccid05:02
flaccidnp05:02
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fildo!flaccid05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:02
fildoaww05:02
maduserhey05:02
_Angelus_morning05:02
maduserdon't make ubutu work harder then he allready has to05:02
sat_flaccid: i already had ubuntu. i installed kubuntu. i've both now. the default one is kde now. i wanna change it.05:02
maduserdownload the gnome desktop05:03
maduserthrough adept05:03
_Angelus_i made a fresh kubuntu install, and its giving me some weard dcopserver error when ever i try to press the "Administrator" button in system settings, and its not giving me root privilidges05:03
_Angelus_any help?05:03
* Gidean thinks kde is WAY better05:03
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Gideancouldn't resist :)05:04
cumulusI'm not sure of how to explain that.  When I go on the tty7 (X), it works fine, I have my screen and everything.  But when I go on tty1 to 6, I don't get a console, I get a black screen05:04
arrrghhhwhat's the quickest dirtiest way to find which version of ubuntu is on this livecd?  the iso i downloaded said 7.10, but after installing it on my destkop adept is doing a dist-upgrade to 7.10... i don't get it.05:04
Dragnslcrarrrghhh- there was a bug in Adept when 7.10 was released05:05
arrrghhhi'm running the same livecd on my laptop now, and all i'm finding is the version of kde it's using, nowhere the version of ubuntu05:05
arrrghhhoh yea?05:05
DragnslcrIt keeps saying a new version is available even though there isn't05:05
ardchoillearrrghhh: open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -a05:05
maduserI had a problem when i did the dist upgrade05:05
arrrghhhthanks, beautiful.05:05
flaccidsat_: you simply select the default from kdm or gdm and it should save that default when you choose it from the menu05:06
maduserso i got a cd and did a freash install05:06
arrrghhhso i should stop the dist-upgrade?05:06
maduserall i'm saing is that it did not work for me05:06
maduserI had to do a new install05:06
flaccidcumulus: i understand. thats weird how your init tab is doing that. hmm i guess you could google it05:06
arrrghhhi just did a new install...05:06
cumulusBah, I can live without tty for now, when it'll be urgent I will check =005:07
cumulus=)*05:07
flaccidcool05:07
cumulusUm, out of curiosity, where did you find the informations for the driver? Because I think I need one for my sound too05:08
flaccidum google and the ubuntu wiki <-- the two places to search and check with first before irc :)05:08
flaccidi also had knowledge that intel is like this heh05:08
sat_flaccid: right. I chose kdm. i want to change it to gdm. I don't know how I can get that window. I've been looking for it for 2 hours05:08
cumulusAlright, I'll check there in the future, save you some time =)05:09
flaccidsat_: you could ask #ubuntu, i can't remember how you are meant to switch between the two.05:09
sat_flaccid: sure. thanks.05:09
flaccidsat_: did you google or search the wiki on this?05:09
sat_flaccid: no. i'll try that.05:10
flaccidlots of results on that as well eg. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9527505:10
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flaccidsat_: i just did a search like http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=change+kdm+to+gdm+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-805:10
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wubbaI have a wireless USB ethernet that won't connect to the network.  It shows that it is enabled.  I checked the USB settings and Linux can see the correct card.05:11
sat_flaccid: thanks. appreciate it.05:11
flaccidnp05:11
Sylphidcumulus: the tty's will be back to normal after a reboot05:11
wubbaAny ideas?05:11
flaccid!wireless | wubba05:12
ubotuwubba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:12
flacciddid you check the support of the card, wubba does it come up in ifconfig at least?05:12
flaccid(or ifconfig -a)05:12
cumulusSylphid: Okie, gracias05:12
cumulusThe wiki is http://wiki.kubuntu.com ?05:13
wubbaTHe card is supported - I didn't do an ifconfig - but I checked the NETWORK SETTINGS - it enabled it but it isn't pulling an IP.05:13
flaccid!wiki05:13
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.05:13
wubbalet me try the ifconfig05:13
flaccidor http://wiki.kubuntu.org05:13
cumulusThis wiki is more about the team who did kubuntu or I misslooked?05:14
flaccideverything is there. you just search basically05:15
cumulusAlright05:15
flaccidits a topic based system thats collab05:15
sat_flaccid: i could change it to gdm. thanks.05:18
flaccidnp05:18
unix_infidelhmm, can someone tell me why i cant press backspace and go back in firefox?05:19
flaccidi wish i could unix_infidel05:19
unix_infidellol05:20
unix_infideli just spent the last oh....2 hours configuring linux.05:20
unix_infideland i'm not even half way done :-)05:20
flaccidouchy05:20
unix_infidelbut i'm going from scratch with ubuntu-server so i guess i deserve it.05:20
flaccidouchy choice for server hehe05:21
flaccidwell i can't talk i still got one here, but i guess its for testing. too lazy to change it to freebsd heh05:23
unix_infidelis there anyway to generate an xmodmap?05:24
cumulusQuick question: How can I access my other hard-drive partitions under KDE?05:25
flaccid!mount | cumulus05:26
ubotucumulus: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter05:26
flaccidoops wrong one05:26
flaccid!fstab | cumulus05:26
ubotucumulus: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:26
flaccid!ntfs | cumulus05:26
ubotucumulus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE05:26
BreetaiI messed something up with compiz i.e. no window decorations and no keyboard input. Does anyone know how to delete all of the compiz settings out of a user account05:28
cumulusIt's already mounted05:28
maduserI don't think an unistall will do....05:28
flaccidgoto like storage media in konqueror or dolphin, cumulus05:29
cumulusOk, because on gnome it's on the desktop, so I was wondering what the location was for kde =)05:29
cumulusGracias mister05:29
cumulusThanks for everything.  I think I,ve got my quota for today =)05:29
flaccidcumulus: you can enable that in kde as well by going to configure desktop05:29
flaccidnp cumulus05:30
cumulusHappy holidays05:30
cumulusOh, I'll do that right away05:30
flaccidcia005:31
ganjamaniacdn3d needs SLI05:32
kyled185does anyone know what package supplies SDL-opengl libs?05:38
biovoreI SDL uses that standard opengl stuff..05:38
biovoreI think..05:38
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kyled185biovore, so I assume opengl support would be in the libsdl package05:39
biovorelibglut3-dev mesa-common-dev freeglut3-dev glutg3-dev05:40
Greenery!teamspeak05:40
ubotuTeamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/05:40
biovoreI don't SDL does any actual OpenGL rendering.. Has some calls like init and setup window.. but alot of it is just calls to standard GL libs.05:40
biovore(I don't think)05:41
kyled185I think you're right, I just wanted to use to to supplement opengl with mice, audio, etc05:41
biovorehttp://lazyfoo.net/SDL_tutorials/index.php <-- some good tutorials on the subject05:42
kyled185biovore, that's actually what I'm using, but thanks05:42
biovoreok cool.. there setup for linux on that is correct.. they all worked here..05:43
ganjamaniac!seen mr. meowagi05:43
mani213i have a program with my adept it says its already running but its not05:49
mani213so i cant even fetch updates05:50
mani213what should i do05:50
ubui think my cd/dvd burner has gone wacko: dmesg= "ide: failed opcode was: unknown" & "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit"05:50
ubuthat can't be good, can it?05:50
flaccid!adeptxfix | mani21305:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:50
flaccid!adeptfix05:50
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:50
flaccidmaybe that05:51
mani213type that in konsole?05:51
ubualso: "hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }"05:51
mani213!adeptxfix05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:51
ubumani213: you probably have an instance of adept running in the background... check in Ksysguard05:52
mani213so i just look for adapt05:54
mani213and kill it?05:54
evjunior09Can anyone help me with Syncing my iPod Touch to Amarok??05:55
mani213still not working05:56
mani213adept is acting weird05:56
maduserdid you do sudo dpkg --configure -a ?05:56
mani213no what does that do?05:57
evjunior09Hello?05:57
maduserthats the fix05:57
maduserrun it in the terminal05:57
mani213after i type that05:58
mani213do i type in y for yes?05:58
maduseryeah05:58
mani213thanks05:58
Mister_HandHi There, when you use a voip like Kphone, do you have to register somewhere for SIP service?05:58
mani213i would have never figured that05:58
maduseryou could have googled it05:58
Mister_HandI hear all this "free" phone call stuff, but don't know anything about it05:59
maduseris an easy fix05:59
maduserthe only "free" phone calls i have ever heard of by means of phreaking06:00
Mister_Handmaduser, i see06:00
Mister_Handmaduser, it was my understanding you could make free calls over voip06:01
ardchoilleIs it possible to get google toolbar in kubuntu?06:02
maduserdownload firefox with google tool bar for linux?06:03
ardchoilleSo I have to use firefix and a google toolbar extension?06:04
maduserdunno06:04
madusermabe its an add on?06:04
maduserlike firefox ftp06:05
homercyclesI'm having problems where Kubuntu keeps removing a DNS server I add as my primary DNS every hour or so. Whenever the internet seemingly fails, I go into System Settings, Network Settings, click Administrator Mode, click on Domain Name System, and enter it again and press Apply. Does anybody know how to force a DNS setting in Kubuntu 7.10?06:06
dthackerhomercycles: are you using DHCP?06:07
arrrghhhwow... so i guess the nvidia 7600gt isn't officially supported?06:09
homercyclesI quite possible am, from my ADSL router.06:09
homercyclesGuess I should go and tell it to dish out the DNS for me?06:09
homercyclesit's a Billion whose internal DNS is slow as sh*te so if I specified my ISP DNS in Windows, it fixed it, but Linux won't remember a manually-added DNS, it seems06:09
arrrghhhrestricted drivers didn't work, and the 'official' installer has now broken my xorg completely... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't even get me back to a console that's readable.  it's all the same illegible character.06:09
mani213when i download a driver off net how do i install it open it with ark?06:10
dthackerhomercycles: if your DHCP lease expires, then your /etc/resolv.conf (where your DNS settings live) will be overwritten.06:10
arrrghhhdoes anyone else have the 7600gt?  it's skipped in the 'supported drivers' section of nvidia's website...06:10
arrrghhhoh but there it is in the newest software update... so why did it break everything?  shouldn't deleting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file fix it at least enough to get back into a session?06:12
arrrghhhseems the unbreakable X has been broken by my newest gutsy install....06:12
mani213how do i update the drivers?06:17
ardchoillemani213: which drivers?06:19
arrrghhhso i'm getting a "screens found, but none have a usable configuration" error.06:19
mani213like graphics card mother board etc06:20
ardchoillemani213: If you installed the drivers via the repos, then updating the system will update everything. If you installed the drivers from source or 3rd party packages, it's up to you to update them.06:21
mani213so how do i update it with linux do i use adept?06:21
ardchoillemani213: Did you install from the repos?06:21
mani213repos?06:21
mani213you mean sites?06:21
ardchoilleadept? Synaptic? apt-get?06:22
ardchoillemani213: How did you install?06:22
mani213i didnt install drivers yet06:22
mani213but i wana so what should i do search ati in adept??06:22
ardchoille!ati | mani21306:22
ubotumani213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
arrrghhhok, i did exactly what the "BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia" instructed me to and it didn't work.  i did what the nvidia website told me to do, and it BROKE the so-called unbreakable X.06:27
flaccidwhen was x deemed unbreakbable lol06:28
dsmith_lol06:28
flaccidarrrghhh: do you know how to go to a tty?06:28
ardchoillearrrghhh: which version of Kubuntu are you using?06:28
dsmith_dunno, I have broke it plenty of times06:28
arrrghhh7.1006:28
arrrghhhflaccid: tty... no?06:29
flaccidarrrghhh: ok check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the problem of X/kdm not starting06:29
mrtimbohi06:29
arrrghhhflaccid: yes i have... "screens found, but none have a usuable configuration"06:29
arrrghhhand "failed to load the NVIDIA knernel module"06:30
flaccidarrrghhh: ok did you do a kernel upgrade recently? if so you need to reinstall the restricted driver via restricted-manager06:31
arrrghhhflaccid: i only have a cli, so i can do that via apt-get right?06:32
flaccidyeah06:32
flaccidum06:32
arrrghhhand this is a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10...06:32
flaccidpurge and then reinstall any *nvidia* packages would be the easiest way in this case06:32
arrrghhhok06:33
flaccidwell you might be better to change xorg.conf to use the vesa driver to get into X then use restictd-manager to fix it up and reinstall the restricted driver06:33
flaccidand this is nvidia's fault unfortunately06:33
arrrghhhyea they support linux... but not very well.06:34
dsmith_bad nvidia bad!06:34
dsmith_i rather have bad nvidia over horrible ati06:35
flaccidthis is true. both are BLOBs iirc06:35
dsmith_blobs?06:36
arrrghhhja06:37
arrrghhhi'll try the restricted driver way, but last time that didn't work either.06:37
flaccidbinary large objects06:37
flaccidyeah but we need to find out why it didn't work...06:37
flaccidotherwise you could be beating your head forever against the wall06:37
flaccidif it doesn't find the kernel mod then it needs to be reinstalled06:38
arrrghhhi don't think i have the restricted driver manager installed06:38
ardchoillearrrghhh: You installed from the Kubuntu 7.10 ISO ?06:39
ardchoillearrrghhh: System Settings > Advanced tab > Restricted Drivers06:39
flaccidardchoille: i guess thats a kcmdshell thing and the restricted-manager-kde gives the qt frontend. do you know how to call what you just said by a command06:40
arrrghhhardchoille: i don't have that06:41
arrrghhhyea, i installed from a 7.10 kubuntu iso06:41
arrrghhhit's still on this laptop06:41
mani213why do they gata make it so hard to get ati drivers06:41
unix_infidelanyone using mesk?06:41
flaccidmani213: licensing etc.06:42
mani213i tried pasted the comands the site says doesnt work06:42
unix_infidelaka the dapper deb?06:42
flaccidarrrghhh: if you are sure you don't have it in system settings, install the package restricted-manager-kde . but it should be there06:42
unix_infideli'm essentialyl looking for a foobar2000 clone?06:42
mrtimbowhat is kubuntu's serial key?06:42
mrtimbojk I was asked this today06:43
ardchoilleflaccid: kcmshell restricted-manager-kde06:43
Lynouremrtimbo: that's exactly what it is, joke artwork...06:43
arrrghhhflaccid: i found the packages that needed to be installed... i purged them earlier.06:44
ardchoillearrrghhh: try this from a terminal: kdesu kcmshell restricted-manager-kde06:44
flaccidthank you06:45
ardchoilleflaccid: kcmshell --list06:46
ardchoille:)06:46
flacciddang06:46
flaccidnice06:46
ardchoilleflaccid: fyi, kcontrol is gone in kde4, system settings is the default.06:46
flaccidardchoille: unfortunately for that kcmshell command you need restricted-manager-kde package06:47
ubuntuhello06:47
flaccidah ok cool thanks ardchoille06:47
ardchoilleflaccid: Isn't that installed by default in 7.10?06:47
ubuntucan some one help?06:47
arrrghhhflaccid: ok it said computer needs restarter... i went to the menu and hit restart.06:47
ardchoilleubuntu: help with what?06:47
arrrghhhubuntu: just ask my friend06:47
flaccidi believe it when you said the other day ardchoille but it doesn't appear so. need that package. i didn't think it would be duplicated06:47
flaccidcool arrrghhh06:48
ubuntui had a windows error06:48
flaccidits weird how they didn't make it default considering this is the number 1 problem06:48
ardchoilleflaccid: iirc, restricted manager is installed with Gutsy06:48
ubuntuwehn i start my computer i get "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt" and its effecting Ubuntu06:49
ubuntuon my system06:49
arrrghhhand it kicked me back to a cli login... no gui.  it broke X just like the official nvidia installer did as well.06:49
flaccid!info restricted-manager06:49
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB06:49
arrrghhhsame error, screens found but none with a usable configuration.06:49
flaccidis optional..06:49
ardchoilleubuntu: Ubuntu? You should be in #ubuntu but that sounds like a Windows problem06:50
flaccidarrrghhh: um yes, but did the nv module error go away.. ?06:50
flaccidarrrghhh: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg now then try06:50
flaccidotherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at06:51
ubuntuhow can i get my system to run at least one operating system without removing anyfiles?06:51
ardchoilleflaccid: Well, the restricted manager always gets installed with the system here, 11 computers.06:51
flaccidardchoille: didn't on mine and the package is optional. when i removed it i lost it.06:51
flaccidubuntu: what is your actual problem. the answer to your question is have a bootable OS installed.06:52
ubuntunever mind06:52
flaccidfair enough06:52
ubuntui'll just run off the CD's06:52
flaccidwhatever that means :o06:52
flaccidi wish i could understand peoples vague questions :)06:53
arrrghhhafter the dpkg-reconfigure and a reboot, i get a "cannot display this configuration" on my monitor...06:54
flaccidarrrghhh: [17:51] <flaccid> otherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at06:55
flaccidpastebin that is06:55
david_JWhat packages do I need to install to get konqueror to automount cdrom device?06:55
arrrghhhit didn't ask me any questions.06:55
ardchoilleflaccid: I was just about tho repeat that :)06:55
david_JI am running fluxbox cause I have a weak computer..06:55
flaccidhehe06:55
arrrghhhhrm i do'06:55
david_JI like konqueror06:55
flacciddavid_J: none06:55
arrrghhhsorry, didn't mean to hit enter.06:56
david_Jreally06:56
flaccidyeah hal looks after that stuff06:56
david_Jokay I had to re put in the cdrom06:57
david_Jthanks06:57
david_Jpeople in ubuntu were kinda rude... Sorry I couldn't run gnome06:57
flaccidcool np06:58
flaccidflaccid is going to be pretty drunk soon. ah well heh06:58
biovorea drunk flaccid is a happy flaccid07:01
biovore:-P07:01
flaccidlol, this is true, well usually07:01
flaccidok time for some air. bbs.07:01
arrrghhhi got it working... restricted drivers worked 2nd time around.  thanks guys.07:08
flaccidnp07:10
evjunior09Anyone know how to install Gtkpod?07:12
flaccid!find gtkpod07:12
ubotuFound: gtkpod, gtkpod-aac07:12
flaccid!info gtkpod07:12
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB07:12
evjunior09is there a Sudo?07:12
flaccidevjunior09: enable universe repos and install via adept or any pkg manager07:12
flaccidthere is sudo and kdesuo etc.07:12
flaccid!root | evjunior0907:13
ubotuevjunior09: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:13
evjunior09Does anyone know if Gtkpod works with iPod Touch07:20
executhello07:20
maduserhi07:21
evjunior09Can the iPod Touch work with gtkpod?07:22
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Linux_Galoreevjunior09: yes, but i found amarok is easier07:24
Linux_Galorelibgpod was updated recently to support the new iPODS07:25
Linux_Galoreboth amarok and gtkpod use the same lib07:25
michi!german07:26
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:26
SudoKinghi, how do you find your current KDE version? :P07:28
LynoureSudoKing: any KDE app, Help -> About KDE07:29
flaccidSudoKing: right click the kmenu and goto help | about07:29
execut!turkish07:29
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.07:29
SudoKingmmk07:29
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Fatih_Akdenizhi07:42
ubuntunakkel08:32
ubuntu?08:32
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jezze|miten pystyn rekisteröityy?!08:41
jezze|kiitoss08:41
yesdupMerry Christmas to one and all and thanks to everyone who helped give us Kubuntu it ROCKS!!08:42
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lizHi?08:53
ardchoillehi liz08:54
lizwow was beginning to think it was head in here08:54
Stalk3rAnyone know of software to convert a quicktime MP4 file to something I can burn onto a DVD for television viewing?08:54
lizdead*08:54
jussi01liz: its christmas eve,what do you expect?08:54
Fatih_Akdenizhi08:55
lizhonestly I had no idea what to expect08:55
Stalk3rOh yeah, Merry Holidays, everyone!08:55
jussi01!fi | jezze|08:55
ubotujezze|: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi08:55
jussi01Stalk3r: vlc does it I think.08:56
Stalk3rjussi01: thanks08:56
Stalk3rI'll try that08:56
lizI can't seem to get ndiswrapper1.5 to install08:57
lizgrrr08:58
jussi01liz: whats the issue?08:58
ardchoille!info ndiswrapper08:58
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy08:58
fredosalut08:58
fredoqua08:58
fredostion08:58
jussi01!fr | fredo08:58
ubotufredo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:58
jussi01liz: is it for broadcom?08:59
fredomerci08:59
jussi01:)08:59
lizfor Atheros AR5007EG08:59
jussi01liz: is there not native support for atheros?08:59
lizRunning Kubuntu 64bit08:59
liznot for the 500708:59
liz5006 yes09:00
jussi01liz: ouch09:00
lizworks beautifully on my Asus F3KA-A109:00
ardchoille!search ndiswrapper09:00
ubotuFound: ndiswrapper09:00
jussi01!ndiswrapper09:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:00
liznot so much on my Asus F3KA-X209:00
lizTrying to get the wireless in Kubuntu working before my sister (Liz) leaves for arizona later today09:03
lizI'm Isaac btw, sorry I didn't mention it earlyier09:03
lizunfortunately my Linux skills leave something to be desired09:05
lizto take it from the top:09:06
lizI'm working from this guide09:06
lizhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread?t=51282809:06
tjeerdHello, I have a (beginners) question: What is the usual directory where shared files for all users on the same machine are stored?09:06
TimSIs there a gui bootsplash changer?09:07
lizI downloading the latest version by pasting: wget http://wifix.sourceforge.net/software.php?title=ndiswrapper into the console09:07
tjeerd(For instance: music, video's, pictures etc available to all users)09:07
lizextracted the archive: tar xvf ndiswrapper-1.5.tar.gz09:09
lizran this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential09:10
flaccidtjeerd: there is no such thing09:12
faolanokay, how usable is KDE4 in the Kubuntu repos?09:12
flaccidusable enough09:12
lizchanged to the ndiswrapper directory: cd ndiswrapper-1.509:12
lizran: sudo make uninstall09:13
jussi01liz: ndiswrapper 1.9 is in the repos...09:13
faolanthen i guess i'll give it a shot09:13
lizok09:13
jussi01liz: the broadcom instuctions tell you how to get it09:14
giuseppehi, how can I mount NFS partition?09:14
jussi01!broadcom09:14
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx09:14
faolanbroadcom is a dissapointment. i mean how hard can it be to make hardware that is standards compatible?09:15
jussi01!ot | faolan09:15
ubotufaolan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:15
flaccidits never a matter of difficulty. open and standard is easier :) well usually09:15
lizinvestigating -- I thought the latest version was 1.51....09:15
flaccidwell it relates to kubuntu definately09:15
tjeerdOK, thanks for the info flaccid. Is there a standard that people use for sharing files locally?09:16
hrmhallo.....09:16
flaccid!samba | tjeerd09:16
ubotutjeerd: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:16
flaccidde facto standard yes09:16
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flaccidlocal on lan i assume you mean09:16
Stalk3rWow, vlc look slike kaka09:17
Stalk3rlooks like*09:17
tjeerdBut I wanna share files on a local kubuntu machine, not between Linux and Windows.09:18
flaccid!perms | tjeerd09:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:18
flaccidhmm09:18
flaccid!permissions09:19
faolannever was a fan of VLC there's some program like Cocaine or Kaffeine that I like to use that works good for video09:19
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview09:19
jussi01tjeerd: just make the folder and files accessable by all09:19
faolanfor audio it's Amarok09:19
Xcelllol cociane09:19
flaccidtjeerd: so depending on the source, its file permissions that let other users access files09:19
paggiuseppe, are you trying to mount NFS (network file share) or NTFS ("windows filesystem") ?09:19
flaccid!nfs | giuseppe09:19
ubotugiuseppe: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.09:19
Stalk3rKaffeine and KMplayer view the file just fine but Vlc doesn't and I need to convert it to another format in order to burn it to DVD for the TV09:20
tjeerdOK, than I'll just create a user "share" that has the shared files with access 77709:20
Stalk3rand of course I use Amarok for audio. ;)09:20
faolanXcell: it's been a long day. 9 hours in a wal-mart kills brain cells09:21
Xcelllol09:21
jussi01Stalk3r: try avidemux09:21
XcellI know09:21
Stalk3rjussi01: ok, thanks, I'll try that09:22
Xcellmerry xmas09:22
ardchoillehi Xcell09:22
Xcellhi ardchoille09:22
Xcellhappy holiday ardchoille09:22
hrmFLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN09:22
hrmFLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN09:23
ardchoilleXcell: Right back at ya :)09:23
flaccidhrm: lots on google for that. don't repeat09:23
Xcellgotta run. talk later.09:23
faolanwell i'm off to bed. gotta snooze.09:23
lizwell got ndiswrapper working09:23
jussi01liz: :)09:23
lizuninstalled it in adept and then reinstalled it09:23
liznow to try the driver......09:24
ristoHow could i restore the default font settings ?09:25
lizI *really* hope after typing: ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf, getting 20+ forcing parameter MapRegisters from 256 to 64 was ok.09:26
flaccidseeyas09:31
Stalk3rjussi01: it's a beautiful thing, thanks so much, Happy Holidays!09:32
lizwell "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" yielded this the first time around "FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory"09:33
lizso I ran "sudo depmod -ae"09:34
liznow I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."09:34
lizI head Microsoft and cohorts whispering into my ear to install Windows09:35
Hamraliz: close your head then, its evil's sound09:37
giuseppeubotu: Sorry for late answer... I wanna mount NTFS windows partition09:40
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paggiuseppe, local partition, or is it shared over internet?09:42
jussi01!bot > giuseppe09:43
giuseppepag: local partition09:43
giuseppeI was reading @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:44
paggiuseppe, a command " sudo fdisk -l " will list your partitions. could you tell, which device ( /dev/sd* ) do you want to mount?09:45
koljahi all Q: installing kde4 on ma ubuntu+kde i got errors: package (examples kdebase-runtime-data vs kde4addons-data) create same files (ex. renaudiodlg.desktop) generating a broken pipe in dpkg09:45
pag!ntfs | giuseppe09:45
ubotugiuseppe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE09:45
lizok I'm going to Windows(XP) now.  At least it works there.09:46
giuseppepag: dev/sda109:46
noaXess!mouse09:46
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto09:46
jussi01!brokenkde4 | kolja09:46
ubotukolja: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal09:46
lizmaybe when I sister gets back from Vacation I'll try again, but I am WAY past tired of farking aroung in Kubuntu with the WiFi.09:47
paggiuseppe, ok. please, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  ) your /etc/fstab  (you can view it with command: cat /etc/fstab )09:47
paggiuseppe, and remember to give link to your paste ;)09:49
koljaubotu: thnx.. i'm doing it09:49
koljaahahah09:49
ristoHow could i restore the default font settings ?09:51
giuseppepag09:51
giuseppepag: I pasted etc/fstab content... but do u see it?09:52
paggiuseppe, you've got to give link to it (in adressbar of your browser)09:52
ardchoilleI know you can send your username to the clipboard with "dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents $(whoami)" but that doesn't work with $(cat /etc/fstab)09:53
giuseppepag: sorry, be patiente please :).... I opened this link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and now I have to paste09:55
giuseppepag: etc/fstab content in text field?09:55
ardchoillegiuseppe: yes09:55
giuseppepag: done... and now09:56
ardchoillegiuseppe: Now give us the link that pastebin gave you so we can see what you pasted09:57
paggiuseppe, copy text from your adressbar ( the one which reads http://.... ) and paste that link in here09:57
giuseppepag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49466/09:58
giuseppepag: ohhh, great toll this pastebin... useful09:58
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ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto10:00
giuseppepag: are u able to see it?10:01
paggiuseppe, first do the following command " sudo mkdir /media/windows " then press alt+f2 and type " kdesudo kate /etc/fstab "  then copy that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49467/ line to the end of the file (start a new line) and save the file10:01
paggiuseppe, yup. saw it perfectly :)10:01
pagthen, the command " sudo mount -a " should mount that parition, and you will be able to see its contents10:02
giuseppepag:10:03
giuseppepag: done, and noe mount -a?10:03
paggiuseppe, yes10:03
giuseppepag: great... you were right10:04
giuseppepag: but strange, I follow I similar giude10:04
giuseppepag: but probably I was wrong about etc/fstab content10:05
slow-motionhallo10:06
paghello slow-motion :-)10:06
slow-motionhi pag10:07
giuseppepag: sorry, but now I will be able to see NTFS partition also @ next restart?10:07
paggiuseppe, yes :-)10:07
ardchoillegiuseppe: You should if it's in /etc/fstab10:07
giuseppepag: ok, I see... Thanks10:08
paggiuseppe, also, if you want write acces to that partition, you could install ntfs-3g  and change ntfs to ntfs-3g on that fstab line10:08
ardchoillepag: isn't ntfs writing a feature of the kernel now?10:09
pagardchoille, I'm not quite sure actually :S I never tried to write ntfs myself10:10
giuseppepag: oh... thanks10:10
sjckSomehow Safely remove of my new mp3player doesnt work alright http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/24010/ can anyone help? : (10:14
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sjckIs there no way that I can force to remove safely, so the files stay on the mp3player?10:17
florent!fr10:18
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:18
florentit's ok10:18
SSJ_GZsjck: Typing "sync" at a command-prompt should do the trick.10:21
blackrosehello10:49
blackroseis anybody here?10:50
JohnFluxnobody10:50
blackroseohh10:50
blackrosewassup?10:50
jussi01blackrose: can we help?10:51
blackroseno thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)10:52
jussi01:)10:52
blackrosebut thankyou anyways :)10:52
blackrosei love this OS :D10:52
rothchild"no thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)"  Don't you just hate it when that happens ;-)10:53
jussi01hehe10:53
rothchildI can help you break some stuff if you;re looking for something to do?10:53
blackrose:D10:54
blackroseyadadaaaa :D10:54
* jussi01 breaks rothchild 10:54
blackrosemaybe hmmm deleting the /usr/bin directory? :)10:54
rothchildoww!10:54
blackrose:D10:54
blackrosehey aahm merry christmas dudes :D10:54
jussi01come on, Kubuntu SUPPORT!!! ... not "how to break kubuntu in 60 seconds"10:55
blackrose:D10:55
rothchildhave you got your windows disk ready blackrose ;-)10:55
blackroseyeah :) with Vista :D10:56
blackrosebut i dunn use it :D10:56
blackrosei prefer kubuntu :D10:56
hungrymouseanyone know if there's a decent japanese IME for kubuntu?10:58
jussi01hungrymouse: IME?10:58
* jussi01 hates acronyms10:58
hungrymousejussi01: input method editor i believe. basically you type in english letters and it converts them into kana for you10:58
Hamrain one week, i've got 3 people giving me their laptops to remove vista and put XP on them! unfortunatly, none of them wanted to hear the slightest mention of linux no matter what! why are ppl so scared of it?10:59
hungrymouseHamra: install linux and skin it to look like xp. they wont notice till they've got hooked.10:59
jussi01hungrymouse: ahhh10:59
hungrymouseand also, Hamra, people are scared because it's free and... well... unusual. anything free must have problems by many ppls definitions.11:00
Hamralol11:00
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Hamrafirstly, most of them never realize there is OS other than M$, their first question would be "is older or newer than XP? i heard vista is the newest!". and when i mention free, they say, all of them start free, they dont even know what open source is11:03
ardchoille!ot11:04
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:04
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hungrymousething about open source is it DOESNT MATTER if you cant understand any of the actual source. the fact that its creator is prepared to release the source means that they're confident that it's not gonna embarrass them.11:06
jarihi, I have question about USB mic and drivers11:06
jussi01jari: go ahead!11:06
jariany advice on what to do in order to get the USB microphone working?11:07
jariI have so far only used a basic mic but this is logitech's USB mic11:07
jussi01jari: usually they just work - but you need to select it in the program - which program are you using fo mic input? skype?11:08
jussi01jari: my logitec works fine.11:08
jariaudacity11:09
hungrymousejari: in general things seem to work with linux. i'm currently connected to 2 external HDDs and they both say that they are only for use with windows. i didnt even need to download extra drivers xD11:09
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jussi01jari: one moment while i install audacity and have a look.11:09
jarithanks11:10
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homercyclesDoes anybody know of any trickery to get the regular expression match working when setting a window-specific setting in KDE for a particular window and matching on the window's title?  I'm trying to remember the window position of the Thunderbird read message window but it keeps loading at the extreme top/right of the screen and it's bugging me to tears :-(11:10
jussi01!nickspam > Jezzee|11:10
homercyclesRegexes I've tried are:    m/\s-\sThunderbird$/    and    " - Thunderbird$"  (I have no idea of the syntax KDE expects, and the "edit" button to edit the regex doesn't work, either)11:11
pagjari, Audacity has some problems with arts, so disabling it (kcontrol -> sound -> sound system) might help11:11
jussi01homercycles: I beleive you can change it with a gui in system settings -> window behavior11:12
hungrymousejussi01, i think the syntax is !nickspam | Jezzee|11:12
jussi01!nickspam > hungrymouse11:13
hungrymouse(pipe insted of right triangle)11:13
jussi01:)11:13
ardchoille:)11:13
hungrymouseoh, it sends a pm :P11:13
hungrymousedidnt kno that one lol11:13
homercyclesGUI doesn't load when using the System Settings version of that either, jussi01 :-(11:13
jaripag, im unable to find arts from there11:15
jariI have krec as well and krecord11:15
pagjari, just uncheck "Enable the Sound System"11:15
pagjari, oh.. try with them then, instead of Audacity.11:16
Hamrawhat can i do if the title bar of a windows appeared above the screen? i can maximise \ from the taskbar, but i want it "restore", and move it around :S11:16
jussi01jari: ok, have you tried Audacity - edit -> preferences - select logitec from there for the recoding device11:16
jussi01Hamra: just right click on the item in the task bar and click move11:17
homercyclesI might go for a centered window placement by default instead of Smart11:17
jussi01homercycles: I much prefer that11:17
homercyclesI would prefer it if Linux could just remember the position of the window and not mess with it, much the same as Windows XP does11:17
homercyclesI have managed to configure settings for most of my common windows so that they appear in places where I want them, but this Thunderbird message window regex just won't play ball11:18
jarijussi01: I was able to select the mic but now audacity says what it cannot open the device11:19
jussi01jari: make sure nothing else is using it - like amarok etc11:19
jarijussi01: ok there shouldnt be anything using it, the recording was possible while there was no mic before but that should mean the devices are free11:22
homercyclesI got the regex working if I just type "Thunderbird$" (without the quotes)... getting it to match " - " before the Thunderbird isn't so easy, it seems11:24
homercycles\s matches a space, and I didn't think a dash was a special character, but I tried escaping it anyway. Still no match11:25
jarishould I go with sound system enabled or disabled?11:25
jaribrb, going to boot11:27
jussi01doh11:28
jussi01jari: I figured it out11:31
jarigreat11:31
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jussi01jari: just go to prefs again, and just below the place you select the mic, choose 1 channel -mono11:32
jarifunny I just did that and now it records but no sound11:32
jussi01jari: go to kmix, and make sure mic boost is on, and the mic volume is turned up11:33
jarijussi01: I just did that , too, the mic had its own settins there and its now turned up11:33
jussi01jari: so is it working now?11:35
jarisorry no it isnt11:35
jussi01jari: ok, so when you went to kmix, did you select the logitec from the dropå down?11:35
jariyep11:35
jussi01gah, stupid swedish å11:35
jussi01jari: ok, and the little red light for the mic is on?11:36
jariits called AK5370 ...11:36
jariyes11:36
jussi01hmmm11:36
jussi01jari: it should just work - try playing with different settings. mine works fine here11:37
jariok thanks so far however11:40
jussi01jari: sorri I cpouldnt be more helpful11:40
jussi01jari: one more thing to try, type: alsamixer in konsole and play there11:41
jariok thanks11:41
jariI wonder if the usb port matters11:42
jussi01jari: I doubt it11:42
jussi01the fact its recording from the device just tells me it is muted somewhere11:43
jussi01jari: check your volumes everywhere11:43
jariit shows always usb hw 1,0 in audacity no matter in what port it is so I wonder if linux rechecks the usb11:43
jussi01jari: yes, thats corect behaviour11:44
jariok11:44
jussi01jari: Im certain its a volume thing - something is muted or not selected somewhere.11:45
wubuntuhi, I've a problem during installation of kde4: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu5~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb11:47
wubuntuE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)   Can anybody help me?11:47
jussi01!brokenkde4 | wubuntu11:47
ubotuwubuntu: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal11:47
wubuntuok, I'll try that11:48
jussi01:)11:49
jariok thanks for everything11:50
wubuntuIT WORKS! THANX and Merry Christmas! :-D11:59
jussi01wubuntu: np's :)11:59
effie_jayxHello all I just switched to kubuntu :D12:01
jussi01effie_jayx: Cool!12:02
ardchoilleeffie_jayx: Good job!12:02
jussi01effie_jayx: do you have some q's for us?12:02
effie_jayxjussi01: not yet... I had playd with it for a while... on a live cd12:03
jussi01effie_jayx: :)12:03
effie_jayxI have used ubuntu for two years12:03
effie_jayxso I can get around... I guess :D12:03
jussi01effie_jayx: yeps, I remembere you ;)12:03
effie_jayxjussi01: really ?12:03
jussi01effie_jayx: youve been around in other places I hang out ;)12:04
effie_jayxjussi01:  is hter a menu editor i ked12:04
effie_jayxI need to leave out the gnome apps from the KDE menu12:05
jussi01effie_jayx: right click on the panel -> configure panel -> menus12:06
ubunturosI downloaded rfc's from repos. It does not appear in the help menu. where did it go?12:07
jussi01ubunturos: what is rfc?12:08
ubunturosjussi01: Request For Comments - a standard doc that specifies rules / notes12:08
florenthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49473/12:09
florentHow install my gaphic card ?12:09
jussi01florent: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers12:10
_cjwhy does the man page formatting in kubuntu suck so bad?  i get lots of strange charactors12:11
_cjlike a with an accent in perldoc LWP12:11
wubuntuok, next problem::P /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-misc-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-style-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb12:18
wubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb12:18
wubuntuE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:18
SSJ_GZwubuntu: Use pastebin in future, please.12:19
wubuntusorry12:19
jpatrick!paste > wubuntu12:19
wubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49475/12:20
wubuntubetter? :-D12:20
jussi01wubuntu: much :)12:21
wubuntuallright. any solutions?12:21
ardchoillewubuntu: Is that German? It's a beautiful language but many here don't speak it. Can you translate some of that?12:23
wubuntuok, which words should I translate?12:24
ardchoillewubuntu: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? That might help.12:24
wubuntusources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49476/12:25
ardchoillewubuntu: Ok, looks like you're having trouble with the kde4 stuff12:27
wubuntuhmm12:27
ardchoille!kde412:27
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php12:27
ardchoilleThat's not it12:28
ardchoille!brokenkde412:28
ubotuIf you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal12:28
ardchoilleThere it is12:28
slow-motionre12:28
effie_jayxI just installed kubuntu-desktop, I have removed all kde apps from the gnome menu. now is there a list of apps for kde, I need to sort the KDE system entries  and the GNOME ones12:28
ardchoilleeffie_jayx: Did you know that kde apps run fine in gnome and vice versa?12:29
wubuntuyeah, I did that, the installation worked normal - but then I wanted to install kde4artwork and something like this - then I got the same problems12:29
effie_jayxardchoille: I don know that12:29
effie_jayxardchoille:  but I need to sort out the system apps12:30
wubuntubut now this command: sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') doesn't work anymore!12:30
effie_jayxstuff to configure...12:30
ardchoilleeffie_jayx: Understood, maybe someone can help with that, I don't use gnome12:30
effie_jayxI just need to know the kde ones12:30
wubuntuhmm, seems that it is a bigger prob...12:32
wubuntuno solutions?12:34
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jussi01wubuntu: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f12:39
fernando_olaaaa12:40
wubuntuyep - same errors!12:40
jussi01wubuntu: no idea then12:40
jussi01!es | fernando_12:40
fernando_ay alguien?12:40
ubotufernando_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.12:40
wubuntui cant remove the packages12:40
wubuntuso - cant use the package management any more in a proper way...sh**12:41
jussi01wubuntu: try: sudo dpkg --configure -a12:41
wubuntudid that: same erros12:41
jussi01wubuntu: bleh... not nice12:42
wubuntuwhy I must use a rc2? why i just cannot wait for the final? :-D12:42
jussi01wubuntu: try sudo dpkg -r kde4base kde4base-data kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4 kdeartwork-misc-kde4 kdeartwork-style-kde4 kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4 kdewallpapers-kde4 kscreensaver-kde412:43
wubuntuhmmm? it says that these packages are not installed???? *confused*12:44
jussi01wubuntu: huh?12:45
wubuntuwhat?12:45
jussi01wubuntu: ok, I really dont know anymore... go find stdin ... :P12:45
wubuntustdin?12:46
wubuntuI installed these pakcages: kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime12:46
jussi01wubuntu: stdin did the packages up...12:47
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wubuntuwhere can i find?12:47
jussi01wubuntu: he is in here if he is online... so you will have to wait...12:48
wubuntuallright - thanx for your help12:48
anakin_can someone please help me with this problem? ever since I've upgraded to gutsy, i am unable to browse the shares on my xp box.12:49
anakin_it gives me "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED" error no matter what I do.12:49
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anakin_here's the smb.conf in case you want to check it out-->> http://rafb.net/p/OXzWho25.html12:50
jussi01anakin_: its quite dead atm, so support may be slow in coming.12:51
jussi01however, have you googled the error?12:51
anakin_yeah, there seems to be a lot of cases. I've tried some of the suggestions i've found on the forums.12:52
anakin_the last one i tried included installing printers for unix on my xp box- didnt work that.12:52
hungrymousei just got a load of really odd error messages being thrown from basically all my running applications when i logged on to my comp... something about being unable to find mime-types, and a lot of mention of octet streams. what on earth is it going on about?12:54
jussi01hungrymouse: its a present :P12:55
DreadKnightxD12:55
hungrymousejussi01, really helpful ><12:55
jussi01hungrymouse: you need to be more specific, I was replying "in kind"12:55
hungrymousealso its not doing the little preview thing on the icons on the desktop, and when i mouseover a shell script file i got there, it gives me an error message insted of the info box thing.12:56
schistehey. A weird thing happenned to me. When I use alt-tab to switch to another window nothing shows up and I automatically go to the next. Pretty annoying as I can't choose the window I want. Would anyone have an idea why is this happenning? I'm on gutsy without compi or anything alike.12:56
anakin_gah! why did i ever upgrade12:57
marioXXXhi12:57
marioXXXany chance to get flash up and running in Konq on amd64?12:57
jussi01!hi | marioXXX12:57
ubotumarioXXX: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:57
jussi01!flashissues12:57
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.12:57
hungrymousejussi01, im being as specific as i can. the full text of the mouseover error thing is: could not find mime type [newline] application/octet-stream12:58
hungrymousei have no idea what a mime type is.12:58
tekteenmarioXXX: yes12:58
jussi01hungrymouse: screenshot ->  imagebin.ca12:58
tekteenmarioXXX: u can download the tarball and install it12:58
tekteen!flash6412:58
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:58
schisteok solved12:59
* schiste sighs so stupid12:59
jussi01schiste: ??12:59
hungrymousewhat the... i saved the image and then all the previews came back.... odd.13:00
marioXXXtekteen: hmm,  The new version of Flash is incompatible with Konqueror because it requires XEmbed (Launchpad Bug# 174343). 9.0.48.0 is the last version of flash to support Konqueror in its current state.13:00
hungrymousei'll see if it happens again on reboot13:00
jussi01hungrymouse: ehhehehehehe13:00
hungrymousejussi01: what you think the problem was?13:00
tekteenmarioXXX: did not know that13:00
schistejussi01 I solved my own problem and it was just a default parameter not activated13:00
marioXXXtekteen: oki13:00
jussi01hungrymouse: no idea, its just funny13:00
draremwow, I'm banned from ubuntu13:00
schisteI just though about it 1 minute ago :::)13:00
draremdon't know what I did besides asking questions all the time13:01
jussi01drarem: have you been to #ubuntu-ops to discuss it?13:01
draremno,  ty13:01
hungrymousejussi01: it happened again :(13:03
wubuntucould older versions of e.g. amarok, dolphin etc. causes that problems? normally i'm using gnome13:03
wubuntujust added some qt-apps13:03
hungrymousejussi01: i screenshotted the first round of errors, when i logged in. what's the url i should upload to?13:04
jussi01hungrymouse: imagebin.ca13:04
hungrymousecan linux get virusses?13:05
jussi01!virus | hungrymouse13:05
ubotuhungrymouse: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2113:05
tekteenhungrymouse: if u want a virus checker (to check windows in a dual boot) I suggest klamav13:07
hungrymousejussi01: it seems to like stacking the error messages, but here's 2 of them. http://imagebin.ca/view/3Obtfi.html13:07
hungrymousetekteen: my windows partition is clean, and i have mcafee running fine on that when i use it.13:07
tekteenhungrymouse: linux will find stuff windows cant13:08
hungrymousetekteen: rly? i'll give that a try when i sort this then. but this isnt a windows virus problem for sure.13:08
eagles0513875!aptfix13:09
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:09
tekteenhungrymouse: it has to do with the virus activly defending its self13:09
jussi01hungrymouse: have you googled the error? there are about 100000000000 entries for it... seems its a very common problem..13:09
eagles0513875someone on linux have a virus13:09
tekteeneagles0513875: no13:09
hungrymousetekteen: whenever i've had a virus on windows i pulverise its registry stuff first and ask questions later.13:09
tekteennice :-D13:09
eagles0513875i have had issues messing with registry13:10
eagles0513875reminds me of something i did back on win 98 lol13:10
hungrymouseregistry hax is fun.13:10
tekteenI pulverize windows then ask lator13:10
eagles0513875lol13:10
jussi01!ot13:10
eagles0513875what kinda haxs u do hungry13:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:10
tekteenlater *13:10
eagles0513875can someone tell me if the netbeanse ide is in the gutsy repo13:10
jussi01!info netbeans13:11
ubotuPackage netbeans does not exist in gutsy13:11
ardchoilleeagles0513875: apt-cache search netbeans13:11
hungrymouseincidentally, jussi01, i've found that if i rename a file, it will sort the error till next restart.13:11
jussi01!find netbeans13:11
ubotuFound: netbeans5.5, netbeans5.5-doc, netbeans5.5-ja, netbeans5.5-platform, netbeans5.5-platform-ja (and 4 others)13:11
eagles0513875ardchoille: i did that but im running feisty atm and its repos have 5.513:11
jussi01eagles0513875: yes it is13:11
eagles0513875im slowly working to do a complete dist upgrade13:11
eagles0513875jussi01: ty13:11
ardchoilleeagles0513875: Ah, ok13:11
jussi01!info netbeabs5.513:11
ubotuPackage netbeabs5.5 does not exist in gutsy13:11
jussi01!info netbeans5.513:12
ubotunetbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5.1-2 (gutsy), package size 67449 kB, installed size 143624 kB13:12
hungrymouseah, i think i know what might have caused the error. i added a file association to link JNLP files to java web start, and that might have upset things./13:12
jussi01hungrymouse: thatll do it13:12
eagles0513875O_o does that mean they have 5.5 and not 6.013:12
jussi01eagles0513875: correcy13:13
jussi01eagles0513875: correct13:13
eagles0513875doh13:13
eagles0513875how do i go about getting it added to repo13:13
ardchoilleeagles0513875: /join #ubuntu-motu13:13
eagles0513875j/w how does 1 go about creating their own repo13:14
hungrymousejussi01: i've tried the first fix i found. restarting.13:14
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ardchoille!aptrepo13:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptrepo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:15
eagles0513875!apt repo13:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt repo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:15
tekteen!repo13:15
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu13:15
jussi01!ppa | eagles051387513:15
ubotueagles0513875: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.13:15
sigra_Need help anyone.  I cannot get xine to install on kde using package manager.  it shows xine.  but its GREYED out so i cannot check it to install13:15
ardchoillesigra_: xine-ui13:16
sigra_apt-get install xine-ui?13:16
ardchoillesudo, yes13:16
sigra_k trying that..thank you13:16
ardchoilleyw13:16
hungrymousejussi01: that fix worked. i should have searched to start with, i know, but im not used to finding coherent answers online. i've been using windows till about a week ago.13:17
jussi01hungrymouse: google is one of your best friends ;)13:17
eagles0513875compared to an ati radeon xpress 200m how much better is an nvidia 6600gt on an nforce4 motherboard would WoW work on it13:18
sigra_ardchollie awesome thanks..worked like a charm!13:19
awen_sigra_: else i can recommend kmplayer, and it runs with xine as a backend13:19
sigra_working now...advice Ardchollie gave me fix my problem..but thank you awen13:20
effie_jayxwhat window decorator does kubuntu use13:20
* effie_jayx is downloading themes...13:20
ardchoillesigra_: :)13:21
sigra_have good one guys.  going watch movies now heh13:21
ardchoilleeffie_jayx: If you mean window manager, kde uses kwin13:21
ardchoilleI have a feeling he'll be back asking about dvdcss213:21
eagles0513875lol13:22
eagles0513875ardchoille: what command do i need to run a .sh file13:22
ardchoilleeagles0513875: sh file.sh13:23
eagles0513875do i just go to the cli and go to the place where its saved and type the name of it13:23
eagles0513875im downloading netbeans 6.0 and its got a .sh extension13:23
effie_jayxardchoille:  so can I search for themes for kwin?13:23
ardchoilleeagles0513875: or you can just open a terminal and so: sh /path/file.sh13:23
eagles0513875ok13:24
ardchoilleeffie_jayx: Lots of themes here: http://www.kde-look.org/13:24
eagles0513875comcast rocks. internet where i am t school in europe stinks13:24
ardchoilleeagles0513875: If that netbeans .sh file is an installer, you may need to use sudo13:24
eagles0513875ok13:24
effie_jayxardchoille:  that's where I'm at...13:24
eagles0513875im guessing it is13:24
eagles0513875ive never installed netbeans from a download before13:24
effie_jayxit reads ... native KDE 3.x... I guess :D13:25
effie_jayxguys... 45 minutes into Kubuntu... and loving it...13:25
eagles0513875ardchoille: its saying command not found13:25
eagles0513875glad to see a new convert13:26
tekteeneagles0513875: try bash instead of sh13:26
Brickfirst 45 minutes r easy13:26
Brick:-)13:26
NakkelHow do I enable propietary Flash on a fresh Gutsy install? The package flashplugin-nonfree doesnt seemt to install any .so files anywhere?13:26
eagles0513875welcome to the world of kubuntu and linux effie_jayx13:26
DreadKnighteffie_jayx: i was annoyed by kde, loved gnome, but my hdd got broken one day.. and was running ubuntu from live cd... one day i scrathed the cd by accident.. was my last one... and i only had old version of kubuntu ... i started loving it xD13:26
tekteen!flashissue | Nakkel13:27
ubotuNakkel: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.13:27
eagles0513875i love the 64bit version i cant go back to 32 bit after going 6413:27
effie_jayxeagles0513875: I have used ubuntu for quite a while. and I decided to give kubuntu a whack... and it is kicking ass...13:27
DreadKnightNakkel: it's broken . i heard it got fixed in alpha 2 (hardy), but it should work with swiftfox or firefox13:27
eagles0513875effie_jayx: i hate to say it but kde is much better then gnome im sry to say13:28
eagles0513875i love how lil ram kubuntu uses and how fast the 64bit data throughouhput is13:29
Nakkeltekteen, DreadKnight: Ok thanks, will check those out.13:29
eagles0513875j/w anyone play WoW on here13:30
eagles0513875i need to start getting on the debugging band wagon lol13:31
eagles0513875only problem is i only know java lol13:31
eagles0513875im currently learning it13:31
eagles0513875has anyone tried kubuntu on a solid state drive13:32
tekteeneagles0513875: only on a flashdrive13:32
zorglu_q. im about to buy a computer and would like to check the compatibility of the graphic card driver, where should i look ?13:33
ardchoillezorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport13:33
eagles0513875tekteen: how does that work13:33
zorglu_ardchoille: ok looking13:33
tekteeneagles0513875: what do u mean?13:33
ardchoillezorglu_: Which card is it?13:33
eagles0513875tekteen: how did u manage to install it on there13:34
eagles0513875!sourceomatic13:34
tekteenI followed a guide. forgot which one13:34
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic13:34
eagles0513875lol13:34
zorglu_ardchoille: various alternative are possible. may be 'nvideo8600gt' or 'nvideo8600gs' or 'ati hd2400pro' or 'ati x1250'13:35
awen_zorglu_: what gfx card?13:35
effie_jayxeagles0513875:  what's the minimum ram aceptable for kubuntu?13:35
eagles0513875320mb if u want a decent working desktop13:35
eagles0513875if not i think 64mb i could be wrong let me double check13:35
_cjwhere do core files go on ubuntu?13:35
zorglu_awen_: ardchoille: none of which is in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards13:36
tekteen_cj:which core files?13:36
ardchoillezorglu_: Have a look here for vid card driver how to's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:36
zorglu_ardchoille: ok looking13:36
eagles0513875effie_jayx: http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/13:36
eagles0513875take a look at that13:36
_cjtekteen: a program i'm writing just cored but theres no core file in pwd13:36
eagles0513875effie_jayx: u need a min of 320mb for a fully functional desktop13:37
eagles0513875more never hurts in all honesty the more u have the better the performance13:37
* tekteen does not understand _cj13:37
_cjtekteen: which part isn't clear?13:38
effie_jayxeagles0513875: ahhh cool13:38
* awen_ remember running kubuntu feisty on his old laptop with 192 mb ram13:38
eagles0513875effie_jayx: y u ask u got an older system u wanna put it on13:38
* tekteen thinks this is beyond him13:38
_cjtekteen: on most operating systems when a program cores it leaves a core dump in the current working directory13:38
_cjtekteen: on ubuntu it doesn't13:38
eagles0513875and urs didnt cj13:38
zorglu_ardchoille: do you haveanother link where i could know which card is supported. in ati and/or nvidia.13:38
tekteen_cj: it leaves it somewhere13:39
eagles0513875zorglu_: avoid ati13:39
_cjtekteen: so i gathered. the question is where?13:39
tekteen_cj: maybe in a sub dir of /var13:39
zorglu_eagles0513875: yep i heard this one before. i will :)13:39
eagles0513875zorglu_: i have to say though in gutsy its improved13:39
tekteenI will look13:39
awen_zorglu_ and eagles0513875, at least until we get a decent open source driver13:39
eagles0513875zorglu_: all i had to do when i first logged in check the drivers i want installed my video card and broadcom wifi card worked out of th ebox after restart13:40
ardchoillezorglu_: For nvidia: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html13:40
tekteen_cj: maybe /var/crash13:40
eagles0513875awen_: lol true i have to say for me gutsy has been a blessing13:40
zorglu_eagles0513875: what is the model of your graphic card ?13:40
* tekteen does not program much13:40
zorglu_ardchoille: thanks looking13:40
eagles0513875zorglu_: in my laptop ati radeon xpress 200m integrated. in the desktop im on its a pci-e 6600gt13:41
zorglu_eagles0513875: ok13:41
awen_eagles0513875: i actually wish me back to my old laptop with an ati radeon 9600... they worked well with the open source driver13:41
eagles0513875im working on upgradeing myself from feisty to gutsy to see if it works that way for me13:41
ardchoillezorglu_: Don't use ati, I've always had better luck with nvidia cards13:41
eagles0513875awen_: what open source driver13:41
ardchoilles/Don't/I don't/13:41
eagles0513875zorglu_: i agree with ard on that13:41
awen_eagles0513875: just the ati/radeon driver13:41
eagles0513875prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file13:42
eagles0513875prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file13:42
tekteenardchoille: I have been fine with ati cards13:42
awen_right now i have an x300 still using the ati/radeon driver... but performance is just poor13:42
eagles0513875tekteen: lol ur probably one in a million13:42
eagles0513875awen_: i have noticed that once i patch world of warcraft13:42
zorglu_http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html <- ok nvideo 8600gt is supported13:42
eagles0513875prior to patching it works fine then after fps really drops13:43
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eagles0513875its kinda funny though in the past ive noticed that card maxed out at 30fps in WoW13:43
eagles0513875no i get sometimes with the latest ati drive bout 50fps13:43
tekteeneagles0513875: I was fine with ati cards before the restrict. driver manager13:43
* awen_ agrees with tekteen... been using kubuntu it with 4 different ati cards now, without any large problems13:43
hungrymousea friend of mine uses ati with (as far as i know) no problems.13:44
hungrymouse(on kubuntu)13:44
tekteeneagles0513875: I got a new card before the manager came out13:44
eagles0513875lucky my laptop i have had huge problems13:44
awen_but avoid fglrx if you can :)13:44
tekteeneagles0513875: now I have gotten lazy :-D13:44
eagles0513875ya had to use this wiki mod the xorg.conf black list fglrx and only god knows what else i had to do to enable direct rendering13:44
eagles0513875tekteen: we all have13:44
eagles0513875tekteen: im hoping to get better performance out of my 6600gt13:45
eagles0513875brb guys going to restart after updating my machine13:45
tekteeneagles0513875: I am thinking of becoming a traitor and try gentoo.13:45
tekteentrying*13:45
eagles0513875tekteen: lol dont make me hunt u down lol13:46
DreadKnighteagles0513875: i once tried fedora (werewolf) and got dissapointed13:46
eagles0513875DreadKnight: ive tried so many form suse 9 and 10 10 the 64 bit they r just resource  hogs13:47
tekteenDreadKnight: i used fedora before ubuntu13:47
eagles0513875ive even tried fedora and solaris13:47
eagles0513875!xid13:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:47
eagles0513875brb guys13:48
DreadKnightxD13:48
tekteeneagles0513875: I have tried all distros known to the world :-)13:48
eagles0513875lol13:48
eagles0513875i cant use anythign else13:48
DreadKnighttekteen: kubuntu ownz ye all!13:48
tekteeneagles0513875: I once tried gentoo13:48
eagles0513875kool13:48
tekteeneagles0513875: could not get it installed :-D13:48
DreadKnightkool xD13:48
eagles0513875hahaha13:48
eagles0513875i need to start working on developing a spin off clustering system based on kubuntu13:49
tekteeneagles0513875: I think I am smarter know13:49
tekteennow*13:49
eagles0513875lol ya not vry many good clustering distros out ther e13:49
eagles0513875i have tried so many different ones13:49
eagles0513875they all sux13:49
eagles0513875brb13:49
tekteenby guys13:50
tekteenbye*13:50
DreadKnightbye :)13:50
kadargohy kubuntus.... i got the known issue with updating libqt3-mt in gusty..... anybody knows a solution ?13:51
hrbsky??????13:51
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kadargoare the ???s for me ?13:51
kadargo;)13:51
fudusis there a way of changing the mouse wheel setting to "whole pagE" like windows?13:52
eagles0513875im back13:52
awen_fudus: you can change the number of lines in the system settings13:53
eagles0513875damn java based ide's13:53
kadargookkk....... it seems that nobody cares...13:53
DreadKnightkadargo: give more details13:53
eagles0513875what i miss13:53
ardchoillekadargo: Or maybe the folks who are looking at their screen right now don't have a solution13:54
awen_eagles0513875: no, you miss a lot of ram if you have them :)13:54
fudusawen_: I can only set it to 1213:54
eagles0513875awen_: i know lol. i have no choice i have to do this java course as part of my degree13:54
fudusHow can I set it huigher?13:54
awen_eagles0513875: but have you tried installing the netbeans 6 tarball manually in your home directory?13:55
dondon10101984its a known prob.... its also in the kubuntu.com forum13:55
dondon10101984but nobody seems to care about13:55
eagles0513875awen_: lol ya i have it installed but it would be nice to have in repos as well13:56
_cjeagles0513875: why do you need an IDE?13:56
jttany ideas why the speaker has disappeared from the tray?13:56
awen_eagles0513875: i did that with netbeans 5.5 when it wasn't in the archives13:56
eagles0513875_cj: i use it for java and which is part of the degree im studing for13:56
eagles0513875awen_: i have it installed lol13:56
nosrednaekimjtt: run "kmix"13:56
DreadKnightjtt: alt + space and type kmix13:56
_cjeagles0513875: i did all the c and java on my degree just in vim13:57
jttthanks guys will try it13:57
eagles0513875i like net beans13:57
_cjeagles0513875: bloat13:57
awen_time to wrap up some gifts13:58
fudusnow way of setting it higher than 12? :/13:58
* awen_ wishes everyone a merry christmas13:58
eagles0513875i have to say having it on a 64bit os and with plenty of ram13:58
eagles0513875merry xmas guys13:59
awen_fudus: i don't think so... if you are lucky there is a xorg.conf setting for it13:59
eagles0513875_cj: on windows maybe on a 64bit os not really13:59
effie_jayxI just tried installing kubuntu and I get this error ata1.00: execption Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen13:59
dondon10101984ok.... see ya later folks thanks for the help... merry X-mas13:59
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: ouch, this is on boot?13:59
effie_jayxnosrednaekim:  yep13:59
jttthanks speaker back in tray, now how do i test the mic input13:59
etfbeffie_jayx: Disk problem, perhaps?  Are you sure your hard disk is stable and bug-free?14:00
_cjeagles0513875: bloat is bloat no matter what arch you run it on14:00
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: try booting with the "ide=nodma" option14:00
eagles0513875effie_jayx: i was getting those too on an older machine which i wanna put kubuntu on14:00
effie_jayxnosrednaekim:  I install ... but doesn't boot14:00
effie_jayxeagles0513875:  how dod you go about it14:01
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: oh... you mean its alreaDY INSTALLED?14:01
effie_jayxnosrednaekim: yes14:01
nosrednaekimsorry, caps lock14:01
eagles0513875effie_jayx: lol i got my newer machine instead nosrednaekimhad a good idea bout no dma ill have to try it14:01
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: well, you can still add that boot option14:02
effie_jayxnosrednaekim:  where ... grub?14:02
master_kubuntu is the best OS14:02
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: yes, press "e" to edit the boot entry...14:02
nosrednaekimthen "b" toboot it14:02
etfbjoin #ada14:03
etfb(Oops, sorry.  Wanted to go see a channel I was told was REALLY nasty...)14:03
eagles0513875in order to be an motu what programming languages should one know14:04
eagles0513875etfb: TMI14:04
effie_jayxnosrednaekim:  which do I edit14:04
effie_jayxkernel ... initrd ... quiet?14:04
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: kernel14:04
nosrednaekimeffie_jayx: well, really, you just add that to the end.14:04
effie_jayxok14:05
etfbeagles0513875: Not THAT kind of nasty!  Ada is a programming language.  Someone mentioned on a blog that it was rather unpleasant to newbies, and I thought (since it's quiet here) I'd see if they were right.  But I digress.14:05
eagles0513875etfb: sry dude i didnt know it was a programming language14:05
etfbeagles0513875: Nobody does any more.  Be grateful you never tried it.  It makes Java look brief.14:06
eagles0513875etfb: lol speaking of java im learning it as part of my degree14:07
effie_jayxeagles0513875:  same problem14:07
eagles0513875effie_jayx: do u have a floppy drive hooked up or not14:07
eagles0513875effie_jayx: an internal one14:08
effie_jayxeagles0513875:  I do have a floppy drive14:08
etfbeagles0513875: Good luck.  I recommend learning Python at the same time as an antidote.  Any time you find yourself writing a forty-seven page function just to scratch yourself, you can implement it in Python in three lines to remind yourself that you're still a Real Programmer.14:08
eagles0513875effie_jayx: do u use it14:08
eagles0513875etfb: lol next on my list to learn is c++14:08
eagles0513875or python not sure which. found a free online book which ill probably start going through ovr the summer14:09
eagles0513875the upgrading to gutsy x64 begins as we speak314:09
eagles0513875shouldnt take me that long to download ovr 800 pkgs lol14:10
etfbeagles0513875: It's a good idea to branch out. C++ and Java are pretty much the same language, with superficial differences.  Try Forth, Perl, Prolog and Haskell; stretch your brain cells.  (Alternatively, if you hate your brain and want it to suffer, learn COBOL.)14:11
eagles0513875lol14:11
eagles0513875i think ill stretch my brain out wiht developing a java based os which already exists but im curious to try it14:11
eagles0513875its jnode.org is the site if anyone is interested14:11
eagles0513875i love how i can multitask on a 64bit os14:16
nosrednaekim64 bit or 32 shouldn't make a difference for that.14:16
intelikeyhow does the os alter your ability to multi-task ?14:16
nosrednaekimwell, windows certainly isn't good for multitasking.14:17
nosrednaekimbut the architecture certainly shouldn't14:17
intelikeyare you saying that windows requires too much attention ?14:18
intelikeymulti-task = walk and chew gum at the same time.14:18
nosrednaekimi'm saying that it doesn't have multiple desktops... and other such productivity features.14:18
nosrednaekimlike cubes ;) ...... just kidding..14:18
eagles0513875no14:18
eagles051387532 bit is ok 64bit suxs balls and the only 64bit version that kicks hiney is kubuntu which im running atm14:19
_cjeagles0513875: do you mean multithread?14:19
eagles0513875no not multithread14:19
eagles0513875this is a single core machine an athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz machine with 1gb ram and 160gb sata drive and a killer asus a8nsli premium motherboard14:19
sivajiknetwork manager is not working, my syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f707fdd1 please  help me14:20
eagles0513875what would be nice right about now in this machine would be 8gb of pc3200 lol14:21
eagles0513875max out the amount of ram my motherboard can handle14:21
eagles0513875does anyone have a mac book or book pro14:21
nosrednaekimsivaji: no network...14:21
sivajinosrednaekim what14:21
_cji have 16G and 4 x Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) :o14:22
nosrednaekimsivaji: its not seeing any networks.14:22
* nosrednaekim is half-way between with a Turion X214:22
sivajinosrednaekim i am connected to Airtel ISP network14:22
nosrednaekimsivaji: so you are connected but knetwork manager isn't seeing it?14:23
sivajinosrednaekim why14:23
nosrednaekimsivaji: why what?14:24
sivajiactually it was working fine a few month back ,why its not working now14:24
sivajiwhy its not seeing my network14:25
sivajihow to make it to detect my network...14:25
sivajinosrednaekim14:25
nosrednaekimsivaji: this is wireless right?14:26
sivajinosrednaekim no i am using wired network14:26
nosrednaekimsivaji: and you cannot connect? are you on this computer right now?14:27
sivajiare that syslog is belong to computer which i am using now14:28
sivajino are*14:28
sivajithat syslog is belong to computer which i am using now14:28
nosrednaekimsivaji: i'm confused.... can you get on the internet right now  on this computer that you are complaining about?14:29
sivajiyes14:29
sivajiotherwise i would not be here14:30
nosrednaekimsivaji: then what exactly is the problem?14:31
sivajinosrednaekim knetwork manager is not working14:31
sivajiit says no active device found14:31
nosrednaekimsivaji: as long as your internet is working, why does it matter?14:31
sivajinosrednaekim i want to know much data has been transfers because my download is limited14:32
nosrednaekimsivaji: check that with "ifconfig"14:33
nosrednaekimor ksysgaurd can even do it I think.14:34
florentMy resolution is wrong and I can't change it. Xorg.conf looks like ok. Driver too.14:35
eagles0513875_cj: u know much bout the linux version of net beans14:35
tekteen!fixresolution14:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:35
nosrednaekim!resolution14:36
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto14:36
tekteen!resolution14:36
sivajinosrednaekim thanks for your suggestion14:36
nosrednaekimbeatcha tekteen ;)14:36
tekteennosrednaekim: no I beat u14:36
nosrednaekimbut you had the wrong tip ;)14:36
nosrednaekimor maybe i'm just laggy XD14:37
tekteennosrednaekim: my client says I beat u14:37
eagles0513875i didnt know net beans did uml as well as c++ and all that jazz14:37
tekteenlag14:37
florent...14:38
intelikeytekteen it must be your lag.   i show nosrednaekim listed first  ;/14:39
eagles0513875!offtopic |tekteen nosrednaekim14:39
ubotutekteen nosrednaekim: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:39
eagles0513875same with me14:39
keithdoes anybody know of a way to boot an iso (or an extracted ISO) with grub?14:39
nosrednaekimflorent: sorry, does that help you or do you need something mroe?14:40
intelikeykeith probably could with lilo14:40
eagles0513875keith: that would be interesting to see if it could be done14:40
* tekteen is leaving to go skiing (really)14:40
florentsomething more =p14:40
eagles0513875tekteen: lucky u ur enjoying a white xmas lol14:40
nosrednaekimkeith: its possible... I think.14:40
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nosrednaekimflorent: what video card do you have?was the resolution ever working correctly?14:40
intelikeynosrednaekim bios would have to be able to "boot it/read it"14:41
florentAlways wrong14:41
chemicalvampnosrednaekim turns out the command was right.. but the live cd i was running was corrupted14:41
florentnosrednaekim: It's a Nvidia14:41
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: lol, I get so many people coming through here that I don't remeber what you problem was..14:41
nosrednaekimflorent: did you install the nvidia drivers?14:41
florentyes14:42
monkeeneed help i have a fujitsu tablet stylistic lt c-500  tryng to get touchscreen to work, xorg.cfg wacom stuff turned on, not sure serial port is read as is active... running kubunto 7.1014:42
chemicalvampnosrednaekim hehe grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1/boot /dev/hda1 ring any bells?14:42
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: oh... you :D lol good job14:42
chemicalvampyeah i have it the way i want it.. now to fix my old laptop without a cdrom drive.14:43
nosrednaekimflorent: did you go into systemsettings->screens and graphics and try to increase your resolution? (if possible)14:43
chemicalvampor even usb boot option14:43
monkeeneed help i have a fujitsu tablet stylistic lt c-500  tryng to get touchscreen to work, xorg.conf wacom stuff turned on, not sure serial port is read as is active... running kubunto 7.1014:43
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: netboot?14:43
nosrednaekim!wacom14:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:44
chemicalvampi have no idea how to do that14:44
nosrednaekim!touchscreen14:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:44
tekteenflorent: u may need to edit xorg.conf14:44
monkeetry working on a tablet with no interfaces and changing up hard drive with laptop and tablet to do anything14:44
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: well, see as how its a laptop(and old), it probably can't netboot.14:44
sigraAnyone know how to install flash 9 for firefox and kubuntu 7.10 64 bit.  I downloaded the flash but when trying install it says not a 64bit app14:45
chemicalvampit can.. its a p3 i mean not old old.. it has the option i just dont know how that will install linux.. or w/e14:45
intelikeyfloppy drive nosrednaekim ?14:45
eagles0513875sigra: look in repos14:45
sigrawhat do I look for in reps?14:45
nosrednaekimintelikey if it has one..14:45
eagles0513875sigra: apt-cache search flash in command line14:45
chemicalvampnope14:45
eagles0513875sigra: type flash14:45
effie_jayxI am trying out kubuntu feisty14:45
chemicalvamponly cdrom.. but it took a shit14:45
nosrednaekimflash plugin installation is broken...14:45
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: you could swap out the HD into another laptop.14:46
chemicalvampyeah i have this hard drive like this 100mb boot,50gb /,2gb swap, 4.7gb (open for recovery partition14:46
sigraeagles that apt-cache sarch flash gave me a list of alot things14:47
intelikeynosrednaekim one would need something like blu-flops or basic-linux   that can boot off of floppies and run in ram  to "transfer" an installation to the machine.    well that's what i would be looking at.14:47
nosrednaekimyeah...14:48
chemicalvampintelikey if your talking about mine, the laptop has no way of transfering the files while the harddrive is in it14:48
nosrednaekimnetwork...14:48
chemicalvamphave to put the files there with the harddrive on another compputer14:48
intelikeychemicalvamp no network ?14:48
chemicalvampwell yeah i have one14:49
sigrahmm under add/remove programs on kubuntu 7.10 64bit there is no listing for flash14:50
intelikeychemicalvamp what i'm talking about is booting a ramdisk distro that supports networking and has the tools to partition/format your hdd   then you can simply copy the installation across the network connection.   (clone system)   and install a boot loader when copied.    but if that sounds like doing it the hard way, or out of your league; i'll just disapear back into the "lurking zone"14:51
chemicalvampso if i created an iso of a live cd. and extracted that iso to a partition of my harddrive. why is it when i had grub boot that iso like a windows partition it just reloads the grub menu14:53
florentok14:53
florentmy resolution is ugly14:53
intelikeycause the extraction is not "bootable" as a partition.14:53
florent:' )14:53
chemicalvampintelikey should i change the partitions filesystem?14:54
sigranot finding ndiswrapper either..guess kubuntu 64bit didnt add way to install flash?14:54
intelikeychemicalvamp you should setup menu.lst to point at the actual kernel and initramfs  rather than at the partition14:55
intelikeychemicalvamp but be warned.  the initramfs is built to look for it's self on a cd drive.  you may still have trubble.14:56
florent!fr14:56
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:56
monkeehow can i activate a serial port that normaly isnt detected during boot?14:56
chemicalvampintelikey but as for the filesystem.. does it matter? i have it as vfat now14:57
intelikeychemicalvamp alternatively  you can install a boot loader on that partition and kick to it.14:57
intelikeychemicalvamp well vfat has no permissions bits14:57
chemicalvampwhats best14:58
monkeehow can i activate a serial port that normaly isnt detected during boot??14:58
intelikeyif linux is going to live in vfat/ntfs space it needs scba gear.  so i'd sujest a linux native fs   ext2 or ext314:58
intelikeymonkee change the bios,  alter the address for the port.14:59
monkeebios loads it, its port 5 kubuntu i think doesnt  see it, that  is why my touchscreen isnt working15:00
monkeer u saying it will see  the change and reload / detect it?15:01
florentNobody can help me for my resolution ? :(15:01
intelikeymonkee   dmesg | grep tty     should show you what the kernel says about it.15:01
intelikeymonkee i'm saying that often bios will allow conflicting address ranges and if you alter the address then linux might see the port.15:02
monkeek rebooting going to try that15:02
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eagles0513875anyone know much about the latest release of net beans15:04
dsmith_how stable is 64bit?15:06
eagles0513875dsmith_: im running as we speak really stable compared to winblowws x6415:06
dsmith_lol15:06
dsmith_any troubles at all?15:06
dsmith_backwards compatible with 32 bit apps?15:06
eagles0513875nope15:06
eagles0513875yep15:06
dsmith_hmmm15:07
eagles0513875whats on ur mind ds15:07
dsmith_oh I am looking at some barebones machines15:07
eagles0513875btw15:07
eagles0513875avoid ati graphics15:07
virnikMarrz christmass, everyone!15:07
dsmith_I know :)15:07
dsmith_AMD Athlon 64 / Athlon 64 X2 / Sempron NVIDIA GeForce 702515:07
dsmith_merry xmas, its morning here in the USA15:08
eagles0513875my sept right now is an athlon3200 2ghz machine asus a8n sli premium mobo 1g pc3200 160gb sata drive and 6600gt15:08
dsmith_actually xmas eve15:08
intelikeyshalom aleichem virnik15:08
DragnslcrHehe15:08
virnikintelikey: <*)))><15:08
dsmith_eagles0513875: sweet15:08
eagles0513875dsmith_: socket 939 so if i can get an fx or x2 i can put in there15:09
DragnslcrA skeleton fish?15:09
virnikDragnslcr: hehe, skeleton fish...it is what's left after christmass dinner15:09
eagles0513875dsmith_: would love to max out ram at 8gb lol15:09
dsmith_its froma winblows box15:09
dsmith_hmm this machines shows a AMD socket AM215:10
eagles0513875dsmith_: 939 has been phased out already15:11
intelikeyeagles0513875 would be ince to have 8g of ram and setup a system to boot from a dvd and load all in ram.15:11
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eagles0513875dsmith_: do u do alot of gaming15:11
tehm0nk!compiz15:11
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:11
eagles0513875intelikey: lol15:11
dsmith_eagles15:11
schisteHi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart15:12
dsmith_eagles0513875: not entirely15:12
virnikcompis is not working right under kubuntu15:12
eagles0513875dsmith_: then i would go with intel15:12
virnikkdocker works weird sometime15:12
virnikand so on15:12
dsmith_how come?15:12
effie_jayxjuncato's crash course on kde land is cool...15:12
effie_jayxhttp://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html15:12
eagles0513875dsmith_: was reading something other night in regards to intel with better benchmarks performanc once15:12
intelikeyeagles0513875 only have one disk drive (the dvd-rom) set it up as a webserver.  nothing crackers could really do but reset the box...   well a hijack maybe. but root kits are precluded.15:13
eagles0513875dsmith_: amds r nice in desktops but in laptops *thumbs down*15:13
dsmith_i agree with you on that assessment15:14
dsmith_we have a amd box here and it does seem laggy sorta15:14
dsmith_a decent vid card will work that out...15:14
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dsmith_so no issues with 64-bit ubuntu...sweet15:15
schisteHi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart15:15
eagles0513875dsmith_: speaking of intel they predicting that by the yr 2012 that they would have phased out transistors all together and replaced them with carbon nano tubes15:15
dsmith_I am going to try it out when I complete my new build15:15
eagles0513875kool15:15
dsmith_serious no way15:15
dsmith_I did not know they could use carbon nanotubes as a gate15:16
* dsmith_ scratches head15:16
schisteHi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart could anyone help me please :)15:17
eagles0513875dsmith_: me neither till i read an article the other night its goign to be quite interesting15:17
* dsmith_ reading now15:17
eagles0513875dsmith_: ill brb time to boot into gutsy15:17
eagles0513875for first time15:17
jhutchinsschiste: There's no point in repeating your question while it's still on the screen.15:17
jhutchins!patience | schiste15:18
ubotuschiste: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:18
intelikeyschiste  grep -HiRace autostart ~ | grep -v 015:18
monkeek back no change... how can i see if the port is active?15:18
intelikeyod /dev/ttyS4   you did say it was com5 ?15:19
monkeeyes 515:19
intelikeyod /dev/ttyS4 and move around the TS15:19
intelikeyif no output then something is not functioning properly15:20
monkeeinput / output error15:20
intelikeythere you go.   the kernel is not seeing the port.    maybe a module needs inserted15:21
slow-motionre15:21
monkeemodule is alwys inserted, hardwired15:21
eagles0513875i love this gutsy found my video card automatically brb15:21
intelikeyoh you rolled your own kernel monkee ?15:21
schisteok solved, thanks anyway guys sorry for spamming, but I'm in a hurry (christmas stuff)15:22
eagles0513875dsmith_: dude reboot took bout 30 sec15:22
schisteMerry christmas all of you :)15:22
dsmith_kinda slow15:22
dsmith_im reading ppl having issue with 64bit15:23
eagles0513875dsmith_: actually even less15:23
eagles0513875im not with kubuntu gutsy15:23
monkeepossble prob, i have to load kubuuntu on laptop, then move drive into tablet.. cant load directly on the tablet15:23
ScottGI have Kubuntu Gutsy 64 bit..15:23
eagles0513875dsmith_: brb again15:23
dsmith_scott15:23
eagles0513875same here ScottG15:23
dsmith_ScottG: have nay issues?15:24
dsmith_*any15:24
intelikeymonkee did you build your own kernel ?15:24
monkeeso it takes some tweeking15:24
ScottGno.. other than some plugins when I first got started.. installed a 32 bit version of Firefox for Java..15:24
ubunturosis there a #linux-audio?15:24
ScottGI'm a browser ho.. I have Firefox32, Firefox64, Firefox3, Switweasel, Iceape, Opera, etc..15:25
dsmith_heh,15:26
* intelikey is being ignored. and goes away. "Physician, heal thyself"15:26
dsmith_wow there is a 64 bit firefox?15:26
eagles0513875dsmith_:lol15:27
ScottGyes.. the standard one to install on the 64 bit OS..15:27
monkeeintell r u getting my pms?15:27
eagles0513875can someone tell me which nvidia driver i have to download for my 6600gt15:27
eagles0513875monkee: r u registered and is he15:27
monkeeoh there is pos prob there, didnt now bout registered thing15:27
eagles0513875!register |monkee15:28
monkeeran hd install on drive in laptop, then moved drive over, and did updates and such15:28
ubotumonkee: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration15:28
dsmith_maybe intellikey doesn't waht your P.M.S15:28
dsmith_(want15:28
eagles0513875lol15:28
monkeeya i lack registration15:28
eagles0513875that was below the belt ds15:28
dsmith_my gf said it15:28
dsmith_she was looking over me and said PMS?15:29
KLuneNoirehey there15:29
eagles0513875ScottG: u got any ideas bout which nvidia pkg i install on my machine15:29
dsmith_proprietary one?15:29
monkeei installed 7.1 from live cd to hd, then moved hd to tablet... then updated and such15:29
dsmith_64bit?15:29
monkeehow can i get it to see serial port 5?15:30
intelikeymonkee insert the propper module.15:30
eagles0513875dsmith_: the restricted drivers dialogue box came up for me to enable it but i accidentally closed it15:30
monkeeno modual, serial port 5 is the touch screen, always there15:31
dsmith_you still should be able to enable them15:31
intelikeykernel module15:31
monkeewhere how?15:31
dsmith_eagles0513875: you should still be able to enable them15:32
intelikey  . /etc/bash_completion15:32
monkeebrb15:32
intelikeyand modprobe  blah[tab]15:32
eagles0513875dsmith_: the dialogue never popped back up15:32
intelikeygoogle for info    use tab completion for module names.15:32
dingushi all - *this is driving me crazy* Whenever i insert a blank disc, the daemon pops up, correctly recognizing blank media, and asks what i'd like to do.  However, in any burning program (k3b, nerolinux), i'm always prompted to insert a rewritable disc ("no media present").  WTF?15:33
dingusi've tried editing both hdparm and fstab, to no avail :(15:33
eagles0513875dsmith_: im getting drive from source15:34
chemicalvampintelikey ive found vmlinuz and initrd.. but initrd is a .gz will this work?15:35
intelikeymonkee something like      sudo modprobe serio_raw      i've actually lost interest in trying to find the exact module.  you can search for that as well as i.15:35
monkeek tinkering with it now15:35
intelikeychemicalvamp yes the kernel can decompress it15:35
chemicalvampintelikey should i have any arguements at all?15:36
dsmith_ya know, I can deal with all the lil' nuances of *buntu or any other linux distro, so long as I have a stable OS that wont break/crash/BSOD on me15:37
intelikeyi'm out for a while.    Shalom Aleichem all little pinguins this ChristMass.15:37
intelikeychemicalvamp the root=/dev  yes15:37
dsmith_cya intelikey15:37
dsmith_ooops too lae15:37
dsmith_*late15:37
dingusdoes anyone know if there are linux drivers for my Matshita cd/dvd burning drive?15:38
eagles0513875:( im getting no where15:38
chemicalvampintelikey ?15:38
dsmith_dingus: I dont think you need any15:38
dsmith_eagles0513875: wahst wrong?15:38
poison_llo15:38
dsmith_kubuntu right?/15:38
eagles0513875need help getting open gl for my nvidia 6600gt to work. had the dialogue box come up but closed out of it and hasnt come up again15:38
dsmith_!nvidia15:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:39
eagles0513875dsmith_: ya and 2ndly does direct rendering need to be no or yes in my case15:39
dsmith_ummmm15:39
* dsmith_ draws aa blank15:39
Artimuseagles0513875: try running restricted-manager-kde15:39
eagles0513875Artimus: in cli15:39
dingusdsmith_: any idea why burning programs always say "no media present" when Kubuntu correctly identifies the inserted disc as a blank?15:39
dsmith_dingus: I dont know, but I know what your talking about as it does it to me as well.15:40
eagles0513875Artimus: ty :)15:40
Artimuseagles0513875: yeah15:40
eagles0513875Artimus: i just learned something new lol15:40
dingusdsmith_: did you ever find a fix15:40
dsmith_no15:40
ArtimusBest of luck.  3D acceleration is nice15:40
dsmith_but I can burn in kb315:40
eagles0513875Artimus: ya then after i get this up and running gotta download wine and install world of warcraft15:41
dsmith_wow...lol15:41
eagles0513875on my laptop it worked but rather crappily15:41
eagles0513875what dsmith_15:41
dsmith_I have never understood that game..15:41
dsmith_:))15:41
dingusdsmith_: k3b just tells me "no media present" on Matshita UJ810 ... i'm gonna have to make another Windows partition! :/15:41
eagles0513875dsmith_: its fun lol15:41
eagles0513875and addicting15:41
dsmith_I know, thats why I never bothered with it15:41
eagles0513875dingus: is it like that with all media15:42
eagles0513875im in the money lol15:42
eagles0513875brb yet again this time with direct rendering lol15:42
dinguseagles0513875: so how are you supposed to burn any discs?  I can't because k3b or nero just tells me i need to insert a blank disc!15:42
hungrymouseis there any way to mount iso images (without burning them) in linux?15:44
dingus!gmount15:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:45
dingushungrymouse: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/gmount-iso-virtual-drive-for-linux/15:45
eagles0513875:)15:46
Pici!mountiso | hungrymouse15:46
ubotuhungrymouse: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:46
eagles0513875dsmith_: :) its working15:46
dsmith_hungrymouse: acetoneiso15:46
eagles0513875dsmith_: time to go edit my source list and add wine repos15:46
dsmith_yay15:46
eagles0513875lol15:46
hungrymousethanks pici.15:46
eagles0513875dsmith_: this restricted manager is a god send15:47
dsmith_:)15:47
eagles0513875on my laptop used to eb a nightmare to config open gl and my wifi card15:47
eagles0513875cursed broadcom15:47
dsmith_I say that everytime I do an install15:47
dsmith_broadcom stinko, inel!15:47
dsmith_intel15:47
eagles0513875dsmith_: lol15:47
eagles0513875just like ati stinko15:47
dsmith_lol yep15:48
dsmith_ati stinks for windows even, IMHO15:48
eagles0513875dsmith_: im honestly hoping i get a new laptop a mac book15:48
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eagles0513875dsmith_: if WoW works on here then i know its the laptop15:49
ScottGI know with Crossover WoW works well.. my wife is addicted..15:50
Dr_willisHmm.. THere was a kid here yeasterday - couldent get WoW working right with crossover office..15:50
eagles0513875ScottG: has she tried darwine a wine linux to mac port15:50
ScottGno..15:50
lufthanzahello, does anyone know how to create new environmental variables?15:51
Dr_willisBut that may been due to his sound I think.. Or WoW+Ventrillo issues15:51
eagles0513875if i do get a new mac book im goign to duel boot but first im goign to try wiht darwine15:51
eagles0513875is crossover free15:51
Dr_willislufthanza,  export NEWTHING=10000 or similer.15:51
ScottGyes.. can't get Ventrilo working..15:51
ScottGwe have the paid version of crossover..15:51
Dr_willisScottG,  where were you yesterday then. :) heh heh...15:51
lufthanzaDr_willis: Does that make them persistant?15:51
Dr_willislufthanza,  depends on how you define persistant.15:51
eagles0513875ScottG: lol im a cheap bastard ill go for the free stuff lol15:52
ScottGmy wife played WoW for 22 hours straight.. needless to say I was not on the computer :)15:52
Dr_willislufthanza,  a exported variable gets exported to all the child processes of that shell.15:52
eagles0513875lol15:52
lufthanzaDr_willis: I want it to exist independant of the shell15:52
Dr_willislufthanza,  if you want a Env variable set for EVERYTHING  after you login. set it in your .bashrc or .bash_profile15:52
eagles0513875my problem on my current laptop is that once its patched it drops from normal 30fps in winblows down to 715:52
lufthanzaI also want it to remain after reboot15:52
Dr_willisBash Basics. :)  I think you want to set them in .bash_profile15:53
ScottGpatches suck.. I don't play but since I had to have Linux it's my responsibility to get it going..15:53
eagles0513875ScottG: lol im all in 1 lol15:54
eagles0513875after this last laptop never going wiht an amd again15:54
seezereagles0513875: i play wow with (free) wine perfectly at full details with around 50-70 fps15:54
ScottGI have XP on my laptop.. for work.. Kubuntu took no less than 10 mins to get to a login so I dual booted Mandriva with XP..15:55
eagles0513875seezer: do u have an ati video card15:55
seezerand around 30 on my laptop15:55
seezer(laptop is x1400 mobile)15:55
seezer(ati)15:55
ScottGI have an ATI on my laptop..15:55
Dr_willisI just got a Lowly x200m on my laptop. :)15:55
eagles0513875Dr_willis: same on mine15:55
ScottGX300 mobile I think15:55
seezerdesktop has a nvidia (and will always have since amd/ati devs are too stupid..)15:55
monkeewhen update / installing stuff, every now and then get asked for cd containing info, to inter into /cdrom/ how can i make it look to flash drive /usb/?15:56
ScottGNvidia here on the desktop too.. I knew I was using it for Linux..15:56
eagles0513875in mine i think im having a really bad heating issue15:56
seezerthe new catalyst 7.12 works "perfect" - if you can stand having only 1280x102415:56
eagles0513875wow and i can actually see the txt on the install which is a first15:56
eagles0513875on my laptop wiht my ati couldnt see any txt on the install buttons15:56
eagles0513875and installation is so much faster on here and i have the exact same processor on here as i do in my laptop15:57
Dr_willismonkee,  you really should remove the cd repositories. any updates are not on the cd.  You could copy  all the pacakges from the cd to a directory and set up a source line pointing to it.. but most of the files there will never be used.15:57
eagles0513875and i have slightly more ram in laptop than on here15:57
eagles0513875brb guys need somethign to munch on15:57
monkeeyes, this install, this time i forgot to do that, reloaded this think like 3 times now hahaha15:57
Chemicalvampok so ive got an issue with booting a live cd (on a harddrive partition) ive got grub loading the vmlinuz and initrd.. but it goes through and scns the computer. but does not load anything.. any ideas?15:59
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jhutchinsDr_willis: On the other hand, some packages never update, and if you have a less-than-brilliant connection, it might be better to pull a file that hasn't updated off the CD if you decided to install something new.16:07
jhutchinsIf you have both enabled, it should default to the CD when the online version is no newer.16:08
florentWhen I take Nvidia Driver --> 800*600 and when I don't take it --> good resolution !16:08
florentCan you help me ?16:08
florentplizzz16:08
jhutchinsflorent: Um, isn't that like "doctor, when I hitmyself in the head with this hammer, I get headaches." Stop hitting yourself in the head.  Use whatever works best for you.16:09
ChemicalvampIs there a way to view all the drives on your computer the same way as grub sees them? cuz hd0,0 is my flash drive.. and hd0,3 is hda4.... >.<16:09
jhutchinsChemicalvamp: Well, fdisk -l will give you the device names, I'm not sure what gives you bus id's.16:10
florentYes, but without Nvidia Driver , i can't play !16:10
florenttremulous, warsow doesn't work !16:10
Chemicalvampjhutchins does it make sence that my sda2 is 0,0??16:11
florentdon't*16:11
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monkeewhoever mentioned changing repository earlier ty, just fixed 2 things in process16:11
jhutchinsChemicalvamp: Not really, but i guess if you've got a flash it might.16:11
monkeegot pissy at it, and wasnt thinking bout few things till u said that16:11
jhutchinsflorent: If you want to play windows games, why aren't you running windows?16:12
jhutchinsflorent: Linux is not a free tool for running Windows games.16:12
florentjhutchins: IT'S NOT WINDOWS GAME16:12
jhutchinsflorent: ok, no need to shout.16:12
florentand if I want to play sometimes on linux, it's my right !16:12
jhutchinsflorent: I have an ancient Radeon that does everything I want just fine, but everything I want is 2d.16:13
jhutchins!nvidia | florent: Here's all I know16:13
ubotuflorent: Here's all I know: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:13
jhutchinsubotu?16:13
eagles0513875!ubotu16:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:13
eagles0513875!nvidia16:13
jhutchinseagles0513875: already done.16:14
eagles0513875ok16:14
eagles0513875seezer: what 2 files can i copy of the cd's to where i can install without em16:14
jhutchinseagles0513875: Bot must be flooded and/or lagged today, usually if someone repeats a question it just says "see above".16:17
eagles0513875ahh16:18
eagles0513875jhutchins: who has bot to resset the bot16:18
jpatrick!lag | Juukamen16:18
ubotuJuukamen: You have lag, I don't have lag16:18
jpatricker, that was for jhutchins :)16:19
jhutchinsflorent: Where in Finlans?16:19
jhutchinsflorent: Where in Finland?16:19
jhutchinsSheesh, can't type this morning.16:19
Chemicalvamp!botsnack16:19
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!16:19
Juukamenhuh ?16:19
Chemicalvampi dk lol16:20
jpatrickJuukamen: sorry, wrong guy :)16:20
* jhutchins hopes that florent's silence means he's off reading the howto.16:21
Juukamenl0l =)16:21
Chemicalvampso if i install gutsy on a harddrive and move it into another laptop what are the odds it will work?16:22
ScottGI think it'll work but what do I know? :)16:24
ScottGit'll recognize the new hardware..16:24
makhow can i instal a ".deb"-package?16:25
jarihi, I was here earlier asking help for getting logitech USB working and now I wanted to ask that could it be that the input from the "regular" mic port should be disabled in order to make the OS receive input from the USB?16:25
ScottGright click it.. it will give you the option to install..16:25
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makScottG: ok, thanks, but how can i install this package in the terminal16:26
ScottGor.. type.. sudo dpkg -i xx.deb16:26
kurtguys, i cannot delete files who are on my pro duo stick, i entered as gksudo konqueror but it won't work16:27
makScottG: ok thanks ;)16:27
ScottGwelcome :)16:27
sigma_123hey hey hey its almost xmas:)16:37
Dr_willisChemicalvamp,  ive done similer things befor. Issue can be the specific configs/settings for sound/video and other hardware.. it MIGHT take a little work.16:37
Dr_willisChemicalvamp,  but the hardware detection in kubuntu si very good. :)16:37
dsmith_my mounted devices disappear in kubuntu from the desktop, why?16:37
Dr_willisTheres a setting to show/hide mounted devices. I belive.16:38
dsmith_I think its a bug16:38
Dr_willisare they shown in system:/media   still16:38
dsmith_yes16:39
Dr_willisActually i think the setting allows show Only Unmounted media, or both..16:39
Dr_willisI tend to disable all icons on the desktop. :) so i dont even reber where taht setting is at16:39
Dr_willisbrb.....16:40
dsmith_i know wher eit is, they just disappear16:40
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dsmith_see if I do a umount on one the drives, they reappear16:47
dsmith_weird16:47
eagles0513875have u downloaded updated pkgs16:47
dsmith_? no16:47
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dsmith_kubuntu has always acted like this16:47
eagles0513875dsmith_: try that might fix the issue16:47
bazhangis the Flash..just kidding..Merry Holidays!16:48
dsmith_updates?16:48
dsmith_I do that all the time16:48
eagles0513875ok16:48
dsmith_its a bug I think16:48
eagles0513875dsmith_: did u post a bug on launchpad16:48
eagles0513875!launchpad |dsmith16:48
ubotudsmith: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/16:48
eagles0513875tthats the only way its going to get fixed16:49
dsmith_register?16:49
dsmith_why16:49
dsmith_hmmmm16:49
eagles0513875its free16:52
eagles0513875dsmith_: that way u report bugs and help make the ubuntu line even better16:53
dsmith_ok I see nothing like the bug I am having brbr16:54
eagles0513875have fun reporting16:54
eagles0513875ill brb16:54
eagles0513875dsmith_: do u know any programming languages16:56
dsmith_Bug #17847916:57
don-juanciao16:57
dsmith_no16:57
eagles0513875nm was goign to say if u did take a stab at debugging urself lol16:58
don-juan#fusion16:58
dinguscrap! i accidentally deleted my hdparm.conf - is there a way i can generate a new one???16:58
nosrednaekimdingus: you could probably use someone else's16:59
dingusnosrednaekim: is there a generic example somewhere?16:59
nosrednaekimdingus: probably...16:59
eagles0513875dingus: did u make a back up of it16:59
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dingus1nosrednaekim: u still there?17:04
nosrednaekimyes17:04
dingus1sorry- my computer locks up when i insert a disc now :(17:04
dingus1so... where can i get a new hdparm.conf?17:04
nosrednaekimdingus1: you can use mine..17:05
dingus1ok.....plz post somewhere17:06
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dingus1nosrednaekim: also, maybe you can help (this is why i was messing with it in the first place): when i insert a blank disc, it is correctly identified by the daemon, but in k3b or nero linux, it says there is no media present.  what gives?17:07
nosrednaekimits probably not burnable17:08
dingus1nosrednaekim: they're all blank discs that burn in windows17:08
dingus1and the Kubuntu daemon recognizes that i've inserted a blank disc17:09
nosrednaekimdingus1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49487/   you may need to modify that from /dev/hda to sda..17:09
dingus1nosrednaekim: thanks!17:10
dettoaltrimentican I run fdisk on any unmounted partition, even an NTFS partition?17:12
dettoaltrimentisorry, I mean fsck17:12
dingus1nosrednaekim: but since all but one lines are commented, they won't do anythign anyway, right?17:12
nosrednaekimdettoaltrimenti: fdisk is run on a disk, not a pratition17:12
nosrednaekimdettoaltrimenti: don't think it works on NTFS17:12
nosrednaekimyeah17:13
dingus1nosrednaekim: any other ideas why k3b and other burning programs see no media present when there is a blank disc inserted?17:16
nosrednaekimno... I thnk they probably don't detect it as blank.I believe you can force them to burn though..17:19
dingus1nosrednaekim: that's what i've been reading, but i don't see an option where to (maybe that was only in older versions?)17:20
nosrednaekimyeah...17:20
eshatare there any testservers that i can connect to with VNC or RDP ???17:21
jussi01eshat: not that i know of17:23
effie_jayxeagles0513875:  I still get the same ata1.00: exception Emask error17:25
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effie_jayxthanks for the help17:26
kurti just installed prboom, i want to know where17:27
kurtcan someone help me with this17:27
kurtit's not in games folder17:27
_cjwhich prboom?17:27
kurtyou know, doom game17:28
kurtsince i can't figure out how to get full screen lxdoom17:28
kurtso how can i know where i installed the game17:29
jussi01kurt: try prboom from the command line17:29
_cjkurt - which is a command line utility17:32
Tim_BCan anyone point me to any additional information for solving a problem with KDE systemsettings app crashing  and all it's icons (along with KControl) being in Lost & Found menu?17:34
kurtif i start prboom after 10 seconds it freezes and i have to log out, any idea how it comes17:35
kurti would try lxdoom but don't know how to play that on full screen17:35
kurtwhy is everything so complicated17:35
Tim_BThis issue occurred following an upgrade from Feisty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon in October. These link appear relavent, but do not solve my problems:17:36
Tim_Bhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/11428617:36
Tim_Bhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11501417:36
jussi01kurt: are you just after a good fps?17:38
kurtreally want to play doom but i hear you got some alternative17:38
jussi01kurt: ;) Tremulous!17:39
jussi01kurt: have you played it before?17:39
jussi01!info tremulous17:39
ubotutremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB17:39
kurtnever heard of it17:39
DreadKnighti prefer open arena or warsow ;) very nice shooters17:39
jussi01kurt: install it, its in the repos - absolutely amazing17:39
kurtis it multi or single17:40
jussi01kurt: multiplayer17:40
kurti like single against computer17:40
DreadKnightsudo apt-get install openarena17:40
kurtanyone here that played lxdoom or prboom ?17:40
jussi01kurt: neither here17:41
kurtok thanks, bye17:42
RogueJediXAny easy way to determine which app is using my audio device right now?17:45
hydrogenlikely artsd17:46
hydrogenbecause kubuntu insists on using it17:46
hydrogeneven though its absolutely horrible17:46
RogueJediXI heard somewhere KDE4 will do away with it17:47
nosrednaekimyay! Phonon!17:47
RogueJediXYeah, killing it worked. Thanks, hydrogen17:47
hydrogenyea, kde4 will do away with it17:48
hydrogenkde3 distros should have done away with it17:48
RogueJediXSo, you'll finally be able to use multiple audio apps at once?17:48
hydrogenyou've been able to do that for a while17:49
hydrogenwithout arts17:49
RogueJediXYeah, that's what I meant. I'm just too lazy to switch :P17:49
RogueJediXProbably a hassle too17:50
HS^^wow i have to say here that kde4rc2 is terrible.  on the right click menu,  there is no 'new folder/file'? many icons are missing, the start menu is useless and ugly. so far for destructive criticism but i cant say any good about it.17:55
ScottGI agree completely..17:56
nosrednaekimHS^^: yeah, plasma is a bit behind... but things are improving rapidly! a release ago, thre wasn't even a right click menu :D17:56
eagles0513875plasma is on the way out nos17:57
nosrednaekimwith whom.17:57
eagles0513875laser tvs r in17:57
eagles0513875lol17:57
nosrednaekimeagles0513875: hope that was sarcasm..17:57
nosrednaekimgood :D17:57
eagles0513875no it wasnt17:57
eagles0513875im serious17:57
eagles0513875plasmas r obsolete17:57
HS^^is plasma that clock on the desktop?? wow fantastic17:58
nosrednaekimoh... well, plasma is the name of the KDE4 destop17:58
ScottGhe meant the interface in KDE4.. plasma17:58
HS^^i think the kde3 was better without that17:58
eagles0513875oh my bad17:58
eagles0513875i thought u were talking about tvs17:58
HS^^but how can people still talk positive about this..  i downloaded the live cd from topic17:58
ScottGnope.. we can't be off topic :)17:58
eagles0513875lol17:58
deuryt1jjj12317:59
HS^^and well... its the worst desktop since 10 years17:59
HS^^i think windows 95 is superior to that17:59
nosrednaekimHS^^: calm down... its a RC of a .0 release....17:59
beppehi, I'm trzing to install a language-learning dvd for windows with wine. it complains that the ie version is too old. do I have any chance that it will work if I install ie, or is there any way to bypass this?17:59
RogueJediXHS^^: Well, considering it isn't even complete yet...17:59
ScottGbut it's getting close to release.. what? mid January?17:59
HS^^nosrednaekim what you mean17:59
nosrednaekimbeppe: #winehq17:59
beppenosrednaekim: tnx18:00
HS^^its close to kde418:00
HS^^and basicly rc2 is shit.  how can they fix this.18:00
HS^^the menu is SO big and so ugly18:00
HS^^damn18:00
nosrednaekimHS^^: I mean that they put alot of time into the underlying infrastructure, now that that is in place, everything else is relatively easy18:00
HS^^yes thats all nice talk18:00
ScottGyou can't right click on the bottom bar to resize it..18:00
HS^^but why believe it18:01
RogueJediXHS^^: You really don't have to. There are other options out there, if that suits you better18:01
ScottGwell.. take a "wait and see" approach.. it's fine to be skeptical, but save the negativity for the final product :)18:01
nosrednaekimHS^^: because, if you have been following the development progress(like I have), you would18:01
bazhangkde4 and hardy will be amazing, but that is off-topic on several levels sorry18:01
RogueJediXMyself, I'm optimistic about KDE4, still18:01
ScottGreading the dev list I'm curious to see how the devs can manage KDE3 and KDE4 simultaneously..18:02
HS^^RogueJediX have you tried rc2?18:03
SSJ_GZScottG: KDE3 is largely on life-support.18:03
ScottGI gathered that.. and no LTS for Kubuntu..18:03
RogueJediXHS^^: Nope, I'm waiting for a final release. I'll pass judgement on it then18:04
ScottGbut this is all publicly available information..18:04
ScottGfor a regular desktop user what difference does it make if it's an LTS?18:04
ScottGI understand the business contract end of things..18:05
bazhangless flash more stability18:05
RogueJediXShouldn't we move this to #kubuntu-offtopic? I feel like we're about to tick some op off18:06
HS^^no one is there18:06
ScottGwe're talking about kubuntu..18:06
jussi01Guys, can we keep it to support in here?18:06
ScottGok18:06
jussi01ScottG: he is right18:06
jussi01:)18:06
RogueJediXIsn't this mainly for support and such?18:06
eagles0513875yes it is18:07
jussi01!ot18:07
HS^^who needs support?18:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:07
ScottGit is.. sorry.. no one asking support questions so please no one talk at all..18:07
eagles0513875lol18:07
eagles0513875sir yes sir18:07
dsmith_lol18:10
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Cyborghi everyone18:11
jussi01!hi | Cyborg18:11
ubotuCyborg: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:11
CyborgMerry Xmas18:11
eagles0513875merry xmas to u too18:11
ScottGget him.. he's off topic! :D18:11
ScottGj/k18:11
bazhanghaha18:11
eagles0513875Lol18:12
Cyborgme ? :)18:12
eagles0513875ohhhhhhhhhhh scott broke his own rule of silence if its not a support topic ohhhhhhhhh im telling18:12
RogueJediXCyborg: Congrats, you are now a convict!18:12
Jeroihappy xmas18:13
Cyborgthe same 4 u18:13
eagles0513875ohhhh offf topic lol18:13
eagles0513875j/k18:13
RogueJediXCyborg: Touche ;)18:13
eagles0513875im pumped lol18:14
elisabethhello whenever i changed menu.lst of grub and do "update-grub", menu.lst will be changed18:16
elisabethdo i need any othe command?18:16
malakhielisabeth: what changes are you trying to make?18:17
Cyborgguys i am new to Kubuntu and to linux in general. i've got a Q, how can i switch between keyboard layout with clicking on the language flag ?18:18
Cyborgwithout*18:18
elisabethmalakhi: i added a new hdd with windows, so i want to add a boot option for windows18:19
jussi01!keyboard18:19
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts18:19
jussi01!grub | elisabeth18:19
ubotuelisabeth: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:19
elisabethubotu: i already installed windows, i had some problems with harddiscs so i disabled hdd included windows and isntalled new kubuntu version in the other hdd and after a enabled the win hdd ...18:21
jussi01!bot | elisabeth18:21
ubotuelisabeth: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:21
nonewmsgshelp i changed my resolution and now it all kinds of MUKED UP18:21
jussi01elisabeth: just follow the grub after windows should fix it for you18:21
malakhielisabeth: it's best to add the windows boot entry after the Debian automagic kernels list.18:22
nonewmsgsit wont let me change res back above 640x480 despite that i manually did my xorg.conf myself before18:22
malakhielisabeth: update-grub will change everything between the ###BEGIN/END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST18:22
elisabethok thanks18:22
Cyborgguys is there a shortcut key to switch between the keyboard layers? i have two layers installed but i don't want everytime to click on the flag to change it18:23
emilsedghCyborg: layer?18:24
emilsedghCyborg: you mean Layout? yes there is18:24
Cyborgsorry layout18:24
emilsedghCyborg: go to system settings->keyboard & mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts18:24
emilsedghCyborg: the last item in list is Switch To Next Keyboard Layout18:24
Cyborgcool thanks emilsedgh18:25
nonewmsgsok what is command for dpkg reconfigure xorg18:25
nonewmsgsi know it says xserver and has dashes18:25
jpatricknonewmsgs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:25
nonewmsgscheers18:26
nonewmsgsdo i want kernal framebuffer?18:27
jpatrickno idea18:27
jussi01nonewmsgs: it shouldnt make a difference, but go yes18:28
nonewmsgsthanks18:28
Cyborgc u later guys bye18:29
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fredosalut, ya des pro ? je cherche a connaitre le titre d'un cd introduit !? en commande bien sur !18:31
jussi01!fr | fredo18:31
ubotufredo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:31
jussi01fredo: english in here ;)18:31
fredoyes , thank18:31
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greg_Could someone help me with a problem i'm having with Adept Manager ? Essentially everytime I start it, it says the apt-get is already running and hence it can only open in read-only mode, any ideas ?18:32
jussi01!adeptfix | greg_18:33
ubotugreg_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:33
ScottGno point in trying to help here.. the bot is faster..18:33
tilgoviHas anyone got kde4 installed?18:34
tilgoviI'm getting errors about libgif and libungif when I try18:34
jussi01tilgovi: I do18:34
jussi01!brokenkde418:34
ubotuIf you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal18:34
jussi01tilgovi: that may help18:35
jussi01greg_: did that fix it for you?18:35
greg_jussi01: Worked like a charm, thanks alot!18:35
jussi01grade_: great :)18:35
vzduchhi guys18:35
jussi01hiya vzduch18:36
vzduchis there a netsplit going on atm?  I can't seem to be able to auto-identify18:36
tilgoviubotu: do I need the repository listed here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php18:36
tilgovioh, whoops18:36
tilgovibot18:36
tilgovijussi01: can you answer that?18:36
jussi01tilgovi: yes18:36
tilgovijussi01 do I change the last part to hardy if I'm running it?18:37
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eagles0513875dsmith_: :)18:38
eagles0513875im in a really good moood atm18:38
eagles0513875KUBUNTU 64 bit rocks my socks18:38
vzduchodd.. trying something..18:39
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eagles0513875ScottG: :) guess what18:39
ScottGis that a support question?18:40
ScottG:)18:40
deuryt1jjj12318:40
jussi01tilgovi: ummm, you need to as in #ubuntu+1 fo hardy stuff18:40
TimSHello hello18:40
nonewmsgsok my resolution was back to normal after a reboot18:40
tilgovijussi01: thanks18:40
jussi01tilgovi: I dont know about hardy stufdf18:40
ScottGI was going to stay away because everytime I stsrt typing a bot command gets issued and I have to erase it all.. now I'll just watch and learn :)18:41
nonewmsgsfor my login screen but then i logged into kde and it's back to 640x48018:41
nonewmsgsgnome works fine18:42
jussi01ScottG: just learn the bot factoids...18:42
nonewmsgshilfe rette much bitte!18:45
vzduch!de | nonewmsgs18:45
ubotunonewmsgs: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:45
nonewmsgspardon my french, what i meant to say was please help me.  my gnome has good resolution but not my kde.  i have dpkg-ed and reset up my xorg.conf file18:46
peter_so i have wireless installed.  but in what program do i connect.. give the password etc.18:47
jussi01peter_: you should be able to do that with network manager - in the taskbar18:48
ScottGI was looking up the bot command :D18:48
peter_jussio01, is there nothing like windows.  so it can save more as 1 web key?18:49
peter_cant i scan for the wireless networks?18:50
jussi01peter_: network mananger should have them listed when you right click on it18:51
peter_no18:52
peter_do i need to restart first maybe18:52
tilgoviAny way to revert back to the packages that were installed from the cd only?18:53
tilgoviOr do I just need to boot it up again and reinstall from it18:53
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peter_Well i dont see how to get wireless to work.  i installed the driver. in knetwork manager i set it on enabled.19:02
peter_now what..19:02
Politics101Great Youtube Video, this guy should run for president himself!!:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAqZUafCdM19:06
vzduch!offtopic | Politics10119:08
ubotuPolitics101: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:08
ScottGpure spam :)19:08
vzduchno idea, didn't look19:09
vzduchprobably won't see anything anyway.. I'm on a live CD atm19:09
jtholmeslooked all over need to know how to test my mic in kubuntu?19:11
nosrednaekimjtholmes: get a simple music recorder like krecord19:12
jtholmesnosrednaekim, thanks will do19:13
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nonewmsgswhat are the advantages of using kde programs like kopote vs gnome ones like pidgin19:19
emilsedghnonewmsgs: Most of the KApplications has more features19:19
nonewmsgsindeed emilsedgh but i do like pidgin19:20
ScottGI prefer Pidgin in this case..19:20
emilsedghnonewmsgs: you have the feedom to choose the application you like :(19:20
emilsedgh:)19:20
nonewmsgsi know it but i was wondering if it required more libraries (and thus more ram)19:20
nonewmsgsnot an important question but just pondering really19:21
Politics101Great Youtube Video, this guy should run for president himself!!:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAqZUafCdM19:22
nonewmsgss;19:22
nonewmsgsonce is offtopic two and three times is spam19:22
nosrednaekimnonewmsgs: yes, that does use more RAM19:24
nosrednaekimbut if you are already using firefox, then its negligible19:25
ubuntuhi?19:25
nosrednaekimhi!19:25
nonewmsgsuboto | hi19:25
nonewmsgsubuntu | hi19:26
ubuntuI have a Question19:26
nosrednaekimask :D19:26
ubuntuI am running the Kubuntu Live CD... and I am wanting to press the button, install this permanently.... BUT:19:27
ubuntuI am affraid I do not have the chance to choose to which drive it lets me install it and wheteher I can format that drive beforehand19:27
_cjlol19:28
vzduchubuntu: you do19:28
nonewmsgsyes in step 319:28
nonewmsgsstep 3 being the third step following step 2 will allow this19:28
_cjeven windows does that19:28
vzduchnonewmsgs: rofl19:28
ubuntuWell, I am a complete newbie and I don't want to f things up... lol, sorry19:28
nosrednaekimguys.... be nice19:28
effie_jayxata1.00: exception Emask error when booting ... any clue ?19:28
nonewmsgsim just kidding cj.  i meant no harm19:29
ubuntuAnother Question... when in Konquerer, when I press 'control all these bloody little letters (looks like scrabble tiles) appears on the screen19:30
ubuntuwhat does that mean?19:30
Lynoureubuntu: it allows you to navigate web with keyboard19:31
Lynoureubuntu: one letter per link19:31
ubuntuthat's maddness, lol19:32
SudoKingis it a software or hardware problem if I changed the driver configuration and now the screen flickers off evry once in a while and I have to press the keyboard to get it back on?19:32
Lynourenot madness, quite handy sometimes19:32
Lynoureubuntu: just press control again if you want it gone.19:32
ubuntuI think I like Linux... I was always so afraid to try it19:32
SudoKing:)19:32
SudoKingglad you do19:32
ubuntuOne Final Question, this could be serious!!!19:32
nixternalubuntu: those tiles are for accessibility, you can turn them off in Konqueror's settings19:32
SSJ_GZubuntu: You can turn the feature off, but I forget how.19:32
vzduchSudoKing: sounds just like power management or screensaver function19:33
SudoKinghmm19:33
SudoKingI don't have a screensaver set19:33
vzduchthere's a trick to that.. but I too wonder why it does that even after disabling screensaver and even uninstalling KPowersave19:34
ubuntuOk, When I inserted and istalled the Kubuntu CD, It could not run under normal graphics mode (it made a bunch of silly lines on the screen), I had to select 'safe graphics mode', could this foreshaddow serious graphics incompatibilities?19:34
nixternalubuntu: ATI video card and a wide screen LCD by chance?19:35
ubuntuno, Geforce 6800 and normal LCD19:35
ubuntuso? Any idea?19:36
nightfireI have lots of ideas but I don't think any of them meet your need19:36
nixternalhaha19:37
ubuntuok, but seriously now?19:37
nightfirefor what question ?19:37
nixternalubuntu: it is the driver and screen res on the live cd being a pain...it goes away when you install typically...another thing you can try is downloading the alpha-2 hardy live cd and see if the lines are still there19:37
nixternalI believe the update to fix that line problem was back ported, or updated in gutsy after the live cd was released19:38
ubuntuok, thanks...19:38
ubuntuoh, and can I run firefox in Kubuntu?19:38
ScottGyes19:38
ubuntuCool... thanks19:38
nixternalubuntu: yes, but you have to donate $25 to mozilla first ;)19:38
ScottG:)19:39
ubuntuI'm going to install it now, PERMA-nently19:39
nixternalsudo apt-get --purge remove firefox19:39
ScottGlet us know how it goes :)19:39
nixternalget that evil beast off of my machine! :p19:39
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ubuntuI'm back19:44
ubuntuNeed one last thing, hehe19:44
ScottGthat was quick :)19:44
ScottGyeah?19:45
ubuntuShould I choose, Guided, or manuel setup? I need to format the drive it's going to install to19:45
ScottGis it going to use a whole drive?19:45
ubuntuYES!19:45
ScottGthen yes, guided will be suitable.. otherwise manual to select specific partitions..19:46
mijoI just installed kubuntu with manual setup for the first time. Worked well19:46
ubuntuOk... then I'm off19:46
ubuntuthanks19:46
ScottGeither way works19:46
ScottGmanual gives more control..19:46
nightfireis Kbuntu alot different than ubuntu ?19:46
mijoI chose separate /, /var and /home partitions19:47
crimsunnightfire: not truly.19:47
ScottGit lags a little behind but otherwise very similar19:47
ubuntuyou guys rule, Linux people are so much friendlier and so much more competent than Windows users19:47
mijonightfire: To me it seems just to be the graphical shell that looks different. Otherwise it's the same thing19:47
ScottGwell.. in Ubuntu KDE can be added..19:47
ScottGGnome is the default19:47
ScottGthanks ubuntu19:47
ScottGI try..19:48
ScottG:)19:48
ubuntuIs Kubuntu or Ubuntu better?19:48
nightfirethanks19:48
mijoScottG: I tried that, but then I got ubuntu and kubuntu apps mixed in the menus. Looked very cluttered to me19:48
ScottGubuntu: it19:48
ScottGit's a matter of preference19:48
ScottGI prefer KDE over Gnome..19:48
ubuntuBecause I think I just used my last bit of ADSL cap to freaking download this thing, and I thought I was doing the right thing by choosing Kubuntu above Ubuntu19:48
ScottGI feel KDE is more flexible, configurable and I guess I just like it more :)19:49
ScottGyou can add "ubuntu-desktop" to Kubuntu to try that too..19:49
ubuntuWhich is better for a n00b19:49
ScottGnot as big as another ISO19:49
ScottGeither..19:49
ubuntuok, then i'm fully reassured and I'm off19:50
ubuntug'bye, again19:50
ScottGgood luck.. see you soon..19:50
mijoMy installation of kubuntu went without any problems. That's always nice19:50
sigmahow do you create a shortcut to a folder on the k-menu?19:51
Lynourean entry into k-menu that is a shortcut to a folder, you mean?19:52
ScottGdrag it there19:52
sigmaLynoure: yup thats what i mean, i tried dragging - it didnt work - the items don't show up on the k-menu after saving19:52
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Lynouresigma: right click on kmenu, file -> new item19:53
sigmasay i want it to open "/home/sigma" what is the command?19:53
Lynouresigma: then name it. Then modify the command to say  dolphin /home/sigma19:54
Lynoureor similarly with konq, if that rocks your world19:54
sigmaLynoure: and if im using konqueror?19:54
LynoureClick on save in the end, and your good to go.19:54
sigmaLynoure: what is the command for konq?19:54
arrrghhhhey guys... so i've been driving myself crazy trying to find a very simple setting - the setting that disables mouse scroll wheel navigates windows and emulate a three button mouse... i looked in system settings for the better part of an hour to no avail.  i thought that's where i found them before, but i cannot!19:54
ScottGpretty easy solution..19:55
sigmaLynoure: ok its working, thanks:)19:55
Lynouresigma: you are welcome :)19:55
arrrghhhanyone?  i want to shade/unshade with the mousewheel, not switch active windows...19:57
sigmai dont understand edubuntu, it uses so many kde educational apps but is still using gnome as the default desktop, would it not make more sense to use kde?19:57
sigmaarrghhh: hmmm i've never heard that one before, did u try google it?19:58
girolamo!italiano19:58
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:58
arrrghhhi think edubuntu is developed moreso by people who develop for ubuntu...19:58
arrrghhhi've found the setting before, and now i cannot...19:59
sigmaarrghhh: yeah good point! forgot about that one19:59
ScottGargh.. right click the KDE start button..19:59
ScottGPanel Menu > Configure pal19:59
ScottGpanel20:00
ScottGunder taskbar20:00
ScottGon the bottom20:00
ScottGis that what you're referring to?20:00
LynoureDid not sound like that.20:01
arrrghhhno i looked there... so the default mousewheel option is to navigate active windows, right?20:01
Lynourearrrghhh: I tend to like doubleclick for shade-unshade, but I can try to find it for you.20:02
arrrghhhwell i found the setting to shade/unshade with the mousewheel, but that switching active windows takes precedent until i disable it.  i found it before, i thought it was in system settings but i'm striking out...20:02
Lynourearrrghhh: mousewheel on taskbar navigates windows, cannot remember what the default on titlebars is.20:02
sigmamy mousewheel just makes webpages move up and down, im sure you can disable what your one is doing20:02
Lynourearrrghhh: System settings -> Window behavior -> Titlebar actions -> Titlebar wheel event20:03
arrrghhhif i put my mouse on a titlebar and scroll the wheel, it switches windows.20:04
ScottGright click on desktop..20:04
wubba!usb20:04
ubotuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick20:04
ScottGBehavior20:04
wubba!wireless20:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:04
sigmaoh yes i wanted to ask - that mscorefonts package in the repo - is it legal for everyone to use? i thought those fonts were copyrights of microsoft20:05
ScottGer.. Configure desktop20:05
ScottGthen bahvior20:05
pauljwarrrghhh: rt clk on the title bar and select configure window behavior, the option is there to make the wheel shade /unshade20:05
arrrghhhLynoure: yes, that is the setting i found.  now there's another setting somewhere, i don't know where, (i thought it would be under mouse settings)20:05
arrrghhhthere it is!20:05
ScottGa bunch more :)20:05
arrrghhhyou guys are close, but i found it in window decoration under configure window behavior - "cycle tasks with mouse wheel"20:06
arrrghhhif you don't disable that, the mousewheel shade/unshade is worthless.20:06
ScottGthat's where I saw it.. pauljw pointed there20:07
pauljw:)20:07
arrrghhhah that's better thanks.  now what about emulating a three button mouse?  i like being able to right/left click at the same time to close ff tabs or open links in a bg tab...20:07
wubbaCan Ubuntu see a flash drive that is fat16?20:07
sigmashould be able to20:08
wubbaI need to install some drivers for a wireless ethernet card and I was hoping to put the files on the flash drive20:09
arrrghhhhttp://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/ - i would say yes, that guy puts it in a fat16 partition.20:09
wubbaok - thanks20:09
arrrghhhso does anyone know where the settings are to emulate a three button mouse?  it's not in the obvious mouse options under system settings...20:10
artur_Does anyone  here had problem with skype(i can hear the person, but the person can't hear me) that is now solved?20:12
Bynwi'm using kubuntu and wanted to add some user accounts for other family members. went to user management, hit the administration mode and entered my password but the "new" button is still greyed out and cant be clicked.20:13
sigmawubba: but u should use fat32 to be safe20:13
sigmaartur_: where did u download skype from?20:14
Lynoureartur_: used to have that, but it was simply matter of having my mixer settings wrong.20:14
Lynoureartur_: for starters check you have record on for your microphone20:16
artur_sigma:first i've downloaded in the site, and later i found out a way by inserting a line in my source.list and after...apt-get.20:16
artur_Lynoure: i can hear my own voice. =/20:16
Lynoureartur_: from echo service?20:16
arrrghhhartur_: have you tried calling yourself?  or that test service?20:17
arrrghhhi think echo service is what i'm referring to.20:17
Lynoureartur_: that just means you have input on, not necessarily that you have record on.20:17
Lynoureartur_: http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html has whole bunch of things you could try, but really, mixer settings are most often a culprit20:17
artur_Lynoure: no, i mean when a say something in the microphone my i can hear my own voice at the same time.20:18
LynoureIdeally you don't want to hear your voice from your speakers20:18
Lynoureas that makes nasty echo easily, if both that and record are on.20:18
arrrghhhartur_: try to call the echo service.  and if you do ever get it working, having your voice play through the speakers might drive the other person nuts.20:18
arrrghhhlol yea.20:18
vzduchthat's why I prefer using headphones when speaking on the mic20:19
artur_i know, it was just to test if my microphone was working20:19
artur_vzduch: i tried in this way...20:20
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arrrghhhartur_: skype has a test service where you make a free call, and say something into the mic and the recording plays it back for you.  if you can't hear it, there's something wrong.20:20
Bynwin fact administrator mode doesnt seem to work in the network configuration area either. i am unable to edit information there such as the dns servers i waant to use.20:20
artur_arrrghhh: yes, it's what happens. I can't hear the message that i've recorded.20:21
arrrghhhBynw: i've noticed that as well... i can't remember how i fixed it because i added a user before for my roommate.20:21
arrrghhhartur_: i'm betting Lynoure is right, kmix is probably configured incorrectly.20:21
artur_arrrghhh: so, any idea about what should be changed there?20:23
Lynourehmm20:23
Lynoureartur_: I told you, and gave you the url... should I repeat? :)20:23
arrrghhhwell, under the input tab is the mic muted?20:23
artur_Lynoure: hmmm, i'm sorry.20:23
arrrghhhi would check all of those volume controls.20:23
Lynoureartur_: mute mic, turn record on. you can experiment with capture record on or off20:24
Lynoureartur_: for graphical version of that, Skype's own howto has pics: http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html (and other stuff that you should not worry about before ruling out mixer things)20:25
wubbaWhat is the root password for kubuntu?20:27
Thingus!root > wubba20:27
hydrogen!r0ot20:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about r0ot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:27
arrrghhhlol20:28
ubuntudangit, all my linux fears are starting to come true!20:29
ubuntuEvreything was goinf well20:29
jussi01ubuntu: and?20:30
Lynoureubuntu: relax, tell us your problems.20:30
markitHi, I've tried to install kde in kubuntu 8.04alpha, but there are a lot of dependencies problems, is it normal? a known bug?20:30
ubuntuI'm back on the live CD... I installed Kubuntu, and opted for the full drive option and when I rebooted (AND I AM SURE I PICKED THE CORRECT HD and Boot drive), it simply said: Error loading operating system!20:30
artur_Lynoure:i've already seen this site before, but the screenshots of the Kmix are different than my kmix. In the Input tab i have "Front Mic Boost" "Mic Boost" "Capture" "Capture" "Digital". And there's no green LED, there's only the red LED in the botton.20:30
arrrghhhmarkit: 8.04alpha is extremely unstable.20:30
arrrghhhubuntu: make sure GRUB is looking at the right drive.  i've had to change it sometimes.20:31
ubuntuWhat the freak is "RUB"20:31
ubuntu*GRUB20:31
Lynoureartur_: what version of Kubuntu are you on?20:32
arrrghhhubuntu, when your system boots, you see a boot menu right?20:32
evjunior09Is VirtualBox free?20:32
arrrghhhevjunior09: yes20:32
evjunior09okay thanks20:32
ubuntu7.1, latest one from the official site20:32
artur_Lynoure: the last 7.1020:32
Lynourearrrghhh: no, VirtualBox is not free as in open source20:32
arrrghhhubuntu: that's not what i asked... after your mobo goes thru all the POST stuff, you should see "grub loading please wait"20:32
arrrghhhLynoure: i thought he was asking free as in free beer.20:33
Lynourearrrghhh: They don't even let you use it free as in beer for business20:33
ubuntuCan anyone pls help me?20:33
arrrghhhbut for personal use it's completely free i thought.20:33
Lynoureoh, sorry, yes they do if you compile it :)20:33
arrrghhhubuntu: i am... evidently  you don't want me to help you.20:33
arrrghhhubuntu: i'm betting it's a simple change in the GRUB bootloader.20:34
ubuntuI want you to?20:34
arrrghhhlol that's a question?20:34
ubuntuHow do I change it?20:34
arrrghhhok, you get an error 17 right?  cannot mount parition?20:34
artur_Lynoure: in the 3rd tab there are 3 select buttons. Channel Mod (2ch that is the only possible option) and 2 input source(both with Front Mic)20:34
artur_but i could choose MIC..20:34
Lynoureartur_: that's peculiar. And it is kmix you opened?20:34
wubba!wireless20:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:35
artur_Lynoure: Yes. My sound is ALSA, and i'm in a Laptop.(if it helps...)20:36
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ubuntuarghh... I can't Private chat with you, I am unregistered??20:36
Lynoureartur_: same as I... and same version of Kubuntu. You do have Line, CD, Mic etc in the Input tab?20:36
arrrghhhi dunno20:36
ubuntuPlease help me in yhis channel20:36
artur_the most strange is that in a previous instalation, i wasn't with this problem20:36
jussi01!register20:37
arrrghhhubuntu well answer my question... it's an error 17 unable to mount partition20:37
ubuntuno, it simply says: Error: unable to load OS20:37
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration20:37
arrrghhhubuntu: it doesn't give you an error number?  do you have another machine to chat in this while you fix the problem?20:37
artur_Lynoure: and also Front Mic20:37
ubuntuNo, not at all20:38
artur_Lynoure: 4 options.20:38
arrrghhhso did you just boot with the livecd?20:38
ubuntuyes20:38
ubuntuNow I am using LiveCD20:38
arrrghhhubuntu: this will be exceedingly difficult to do, but you'll have to reboot.  then when you get the error hit any key.  it'll bring you to the GRUB menu.  press 'e'.  this will allow you to edit the lines.20:39
Lynoureartur_: Sorry, I have hard time figuring out our setting without seeing them. And I'm kind of wondering how come you would not have input and record options for those all.20:39
ubuntui pressed many buttons, it didn't bring up any menu20:40
artur_when i'm with my headphone and i say something i can hear this in the ear phone, but it seens that SKYPE can't get a 'connection' with my sound system, specially the MIC, cause as i said, i can hear the woman's voice.20:40
arrrghhhubuntu: should say "root (hd2,0)" - although those numbers might be different.  the first number is your hdd, and the second is the partition on that hdd.  usually what i found was it assigned it to hd2,0, and it should be (hd0,0)20:40
wubbaIs 7.04 Fesity or Gutsy?20:41
ubuntuI'm sure at some stage I read (0,0,0)20:41
wubba!Fesity20:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:41
vzduchwubba: Gutsy is 7.10.. now go figure ;)20:41
wubbaty20:41
arrrghhhshould only be two numbers.  ubuntu there's a way to edit GRUB from your livecd.  you'll have to mount your hdd with ubuntu on it.  do you have multiple hdds?20:42
ubuntuyes, 320:42
ubuntu(well then it said 0,0)20:42
Lynoureartur_: like I said before, getting sound recorded from input is separate from getting it to play. Perhaps you could show me a screenshot of your mixer input screen?20:42
Lynoureartur_: you can also try with audacity if you think skype itself is to blame20:43
arrrghhhyou might want to disconnect any hdds that you're not using for the install.  i found that was easiest when i was starting out... now i know what GRUB is all about so i can fix it if i need to.20:43
ubuntuWhen I pressed install permanently, I saw an option for GRUB in 'advance options', but I was afraid to select it20:43
ubuntuwhat is GRUB?20:43
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arrrghhh!grub20:44
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:44
Bynwi've rebooted to make sure that wasnt the problem. and i've check it out in other system settings. clicking on the administator mode, i do get prompted for my password but the adminstration buttons that should become useable dont. not in any section of the system settings20:44
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ubuntuOk, I am going to disconnect my other to HD's... then install again!20:45
ubuntuIn the installation menu should I fiddle with the Grub settings?20:45
arrrghhhubuntu: i found that was the easiest way for me, when i was starting out.20:45
artur_Lynoure: i'm gonna do this. just a minute20:45
arrrghhhubuntu: no, for the most part grub does a good job.  for some reason it can get messed up with multiple hdds (especially if they mix intefaces, P-ATA, S-ATA, etc.)20:46
arrrghhhubuntu: and with only one hdd installed, grub really has nothing to mess up.20:46
ubuntuOk great, then I'm off20:46
ubuntuAny last minute advice?20:46
ubuntuI really don't want to go through all this nonsense again?20:47
arrrghhhmay the open source force be with you.20:47
ubuntudamn, that wasn't a question, lol20:47
jttis anyone here doing Voip with any plantronics headsets20:48
arrrghhhubuntu: just take your time, make sure you read everything (especially if you don't understand...)20:48
arrrghhhah well.20:48
SatManUK!grub20:50
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:50
yadoy666hallo20:51
yadoy666indonesia here20:52
Lynoureyadoy666: is there anything you need help with?20:52
arrrghhhlmao20:52
SatManUKguys im trying to install grub after having to reinstall linux and i always struggle im trying to follow the howto but im struggling..20:53
arrrghhhguess not.20:53
arrrghhhSatManUK: there's always supergrub.20:53
SatManUKwhats supergrub?20:54
arrrghhhi don't mean to be a d!ck but google is your friend.20:54
arrrghhhwell, maybe i do mean to be a d!ck, but you can't learn if i hand-feed ya.20:55
SatManUKim wating for the page to load20:55
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SatManUKits 1am and christmas day .. break please..20:55
arrrghhhlol it's 1pm and christmas eve here.20:56
arrrghhhthanks kids, i'm out.20:56
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vzduchWest Coast.. yo mother****** :D20:57
vzduchscnr20:57
SatManUKwhy do i need to burn a grub cd..20:58
SatManUKcan't i just install it from the live cd?20:58
LynoureSatManUK: what were you trying to achieve, again?20:59
SatManUKrepair of grub20:59
vzduchyou don't need to burn a CD.. you can also write a floppy (if you still know what that is ;))20:59
SatManUKi dont have a drive..20:59
SatManUKah the computer does but i dont have even 1 disk..21:00
vzduchSuper Grub Disk is probably the easiest way to restore a Grub.. but definitely not the only way21:00
SatManUKwhere to get a blank floppy disk at 1am..21:00
SatManUKi will burn the iso..21:00
vzduch1 a.m.?  where you at? o021:00
SatManUKwhy can't they just write a simple install grub script into the live cd..21:00
SatManUKTbilisi, Georgia..21:00
SatManUKMerry Christmas BTW..21:00
jpatrickvzduch: UK by the looks of it21:00
SatManUKim from uk21:00
SatManUKbut living in Tbilisi, Georgia21:01
jpatrickah21:01
SatManUKin uk its 9pm21:01
jpatrickI'm from the UK but living in Spain21:01
SatManUKwell its cheaper here than spain..21:01
whufforSweden here21:01
vzduchGermany here21:01
SatManUKi been to malmo..21:01
SatManUKofftopic lol21:01
whufforMe too. I prefer my own city of Stockholm :)21:01
vzduchtrying to move to the Netherlands some time next year21:01
SatManUKlets focus on grub here and take the why here their etc to kubuntu-offtopic21:02
SatManUKdoes anybody the know the step by steps for grub itself?21:02
SatManUKi tried chroot /sda121:02
SatManUKi mounted /dev/sda2 into /sda121:02
SatManUKi tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda but it says its not a valid block device21:03
vzduchtried /dev/sda1 instead?21:04
vzduchshould work as well if it's not on an extended partition21:05
vzduch(well, disregard that, logical mistake on my part)21:05
vzduchsda1 cannot be on an extended partition21:05
NeoFaxG'Day everyone!21:05
jhutchinsvzduch: Why not?21:11
vzduchjhutchins: it can be an extended partition itself, but everything that's on this extended partition starts w/ sdX521:11
jhutchinsk, that's what I thought.21:12
jhutchinsvzduch: Of course, linux allows more than four primary partitions.21:12
vzduchnever heard of that21:12
jhutchinsStrictly a DOS limitation.21:13
lordofthepigsis there anyway to get the current screen orientation, to use with xrandr?21:19
lordofthepigslike whether it currently is normal, left, inverted or right?21:19
NeoFaxlordofthepigs: I think xdpyinfo does state the resolotion.  If not, kcontrol does21:20
purpleposeidonlordofthepigs: Just calling xrandr without any arguments should display the current orientation.21:24
jhutchinslordofthepigs: Under configure display, there's "Orientation".  All greyed out on mine.21:24
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lordofthepigspurpleposeidon: hmm... it doesn't display the current orientation21:28
purpleposeidonWell, mine says "Current rotation - normal"21:29
lordofthepigsreally?21:29
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lordofthepigsmine says "Screen 0: minimum 320x200, current 1024x600, maximum 1024x1024" and all sorts of additional infos21:30
lordofthepigspurpleposeidon: Actually, what I would want is a script that would rotate the screen 90° every time it is called21:33
jhutchinslordofthepigs: You're not running 4 are you?21:35
purpleposeidonlordofthepigs: if xrandr doesn't say in the output, I don't know. :P21:35
lordofthepigsjhutchins: sorry?21:35
TheFuzzballDoes anyone know what embeded plugin can play .divx files in Konqueror?21:36
lordofthepigsjhutchins: What do you mean exactly?21:37
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Cannolihow do i get permanent root access in terminal for this session?21:40
vzduchhuh?21:41
NeoFaxCannoli: Sudo su -21:41
vzduchah21:41
jhutchinslordofthepigs: I mean are you asking about kde4 or kde 3.5?21:42
jhutchins!info krandrtray21:42
ubotuPackage krandrtray does not exist in gutsy21:42
lordofthepigshmm, I just found out that I can get the information with xrandr --verbose21:43
lordofthepigsthen grep to the line of my display21:43
Cannolity21:43
jhutchins!info krandr21:43
ubotuPackage krandr does not exist in gutsy21:43
TheFuzzball!divx21:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:43
jhutchinsmaybe it's part of kdetools or something.21:43
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bynwok i was having difficulty with the administration mode not working in the system settings. i've reinstalled kubuntu and it works. however i think i know what caused the problem. there are updates available in adept, so if i install these updates it may not work properly again. what am i doing incorrectly?21:52
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nick-3334how do I install libdvdread?21:53
vzduchsudo apt-get install libdvdread21:53
vzduch:P21:54
ardchoillenick-3334: sudo apt-get install libdvdread321:54
ardchoillenick-3334: apt-cache search libdvdread  :)21:55
bynwi'm gonna go apply the updates again and see if i loose the ability too get into administration mode21:55
nick-3334how do I install dvd-css21:59
vzduchsudo apt-get install libdvdcss22:00
vzduch:P22:00
ardchoillevzduch: It's not in the repos. Neither is libdvdread22:00
ardchoille!medibuntu | nick-333422:00
ubotunick-3334: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org22:00
nick-3334!medibuntu22:00
vzduchardchoille: isn't that a repo? :D22:00
ardchoillevzduch: Yes, but he has to add that repo to be able to use it, it's not an official repo.22:03
ubuntu_hello22:05
wubbaHow can I stop Xwindows so I can install some Nvidia drivers?22:08
vzduchwubba: install a kernel module22:09
wubbavzducH: I just want to exit out of xwindows22:09
vzduchno need to stop X for that, only requires a reboot when you're finished22:09
ardchoillewubba: cltr+alt+f2, type in "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" (without quotes)22:10
wubbaThe nvidia file comes up and says that I can't install when X is running22:10
ardchoillevzduch: Installing the nvidia drivers does not require a reboot22:10
wubbaHow do you get back to xwindows then?22:10
vzduchardchoille: strictly spoken it doesn't, right.. but afaik it's recommended to reboot after installing a kmod22:11
ardchoillewubba: After the nvidia driver is installed, type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" and you should be sent back to tty722:11
ardchoillevzduch: Wrong again22:11
ardchoille!nvidia | wubba22:11
ubotuwubba: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:11
haskearhello, can anyone help me stop my screen fading to black? its not the screensaver or powersaving. Im at my wits end with it22:13
wubbaWhen I go out to F2 it ask for a username/password - I am using Linuxmce22:13
ardchoillewubba: Did you read the nvidia wiki page first?22:14
wubbaWhat I read was to do an sh then the file name - which I did - and it comes up and says you can't run it in X22:15
ardchoillewubba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:15
wubbaI don't have Administration under System22:17
wiehanwhat do I type to register my nick?22:17
ardchoille!register | wiehan22:17
ubotuwiehan: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration22:17
ardchoillewubba: Why not?22:17
wiehan!register | Wiehan22:17
Linux_Galorewubba: just edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look for the Driver "nvidia" line and change it to "nv" save then sudo halt22:18
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: From what he has posted, he doesn't have nvidia installed yet22:18
wiehanthat quite obviously didn't work22:18
wubbaard: Not sure why not22:18
wubbaI'm running Linuxmce - maybe?22:19
Linux_Galoreardchoille: thought he has the normal kernel update nvidia driver breaking problem22:19
ardchoillewiehan: Did you read the webpage ubotu posted to you?22:19
wiehannah22:19
wiehanEasier to get the quick how-to from the pro's in this channel ;-)22:19
ardchoillewiehan: It's best to get the current and correct info and you can read the webpage to do that :)22:20
Linux_Galorewiehan: always do a sudo apt-get install envy  then  envy -t22:20
bynwok that's it. something in the updates causes loss of the administration mode in the system settings.22:20
ardchoille!envy | Linux_Galore22:20
ubotuLinux_Galore: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »22:21
Linux_Galoreardchoille: yeah I know but i tried the howto method and it didnt work for me either22:21
lordofthepigsin ubuntu what's the difference between runlevel 2 and 3 (seems 4 and 5 are the same as 3)22:21
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: That doesn't mean it won't work for others.22:21
bynwand when i was installing those updates i got this message: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.22:22
ardchoillelordofthepigs:  Runlevel 2 is used to start most of the machines services.  Runlevel 3 is commonly used by servers. This loads all services except the X windows system.22:22
Linux_Galoreardchoille: Ubuntu has some serious breakage and problem with certain agp chipsets when it comes to selecting the correct defaults for nvidia, envy has had a far better success rate across all the systems I have admined than the stupid howto22:22
ramii have a 3rd gen ipod nano, but i can not sync it to the computer, how can i do that?22:22
wubbaWill ENvy download the new drivers?22:23
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: When in this channel, we must adhere to the officially recommended methods. Please do so.22:23
ardchoille!envy | wubba22:23
ubotuwubba: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »22:23
Linux_Galoreardchoille: even if they are inherently broken for 30% of paltfroms22:23
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Broken for you doesn't men broken for all.22:23
ardchoille*mean22:23
wubbaubotu: I don't have that choice22:24
rami!ipod22:24
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod22:24
Linux_Galoreardchoille: dude, the defaults for the install for nvidia are really bad22:24
mot_how do i restart xine?22:24
wiehanmot is dit jy?22:24
ardchoillewubba: It's possible that linuxmce is a bit different.22:24
mot_what?22:24
_cjLinux_Galore: adminning desktop linux machines must be a really shitty job22:24
wiehanMarius?22:24
mot_no22:24
wiehanoh, hehe22:24
ardchoille!language | _cj22:25
ubotu_cj: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:25
Linux_Galore_cj: especially when Ubuntu hardware people dont learn from mistakes22:25
PollywogI think he meant shoddy22:25
wubbais there a way to start that program from x?22:25
_cjLinux_Galore: tell me about it. my IBM eServers needed custome kernels just to recognize the cd drives they were installed via!22:25
wubbafrom terminal?22:26
wiehanI just installed the latest version of Kubuntu, why should I install the 100mb+ load of updates? I though Linux was infallable?22:26
ardchoillewiehan: You should always keep your system up to date.22:26
wiehanok, good enough for me :-)22:26
Pollywogwiehan: it is only infallible with updates for infallibility22:26
_cjwiehan: feel free to ignore the updates. you'll be no less "infallable" than your proprietory a;ternatives22:26
bynwwhen installing those updates, you loose the administration mode functionality in system settings22:27
Linux_Galore_cj: I read the rss blog notes from the dev for envy, he has some pretty quirky code to compensate for serious weirdness with nvidia and certain hardware types, these are totally missing in the ubuntu stuff22:27
ardchoille!ot | Linux_Galore22:27
ubotuLinux_Galore: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:27
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wiehanlisten, evryone keeps talking about repositories, I've read a bit about waht they are? Should I enable them right off the bat?22:27
ramiSorry for being desperate, but i have problems with my third generation ipod nano, it wont sync with the computer, and when i try to install the libgpod package it says"Error: dependency not satisfiable:libc6" but i already have libc6 installed, what shall i do?22:27
ardchoillewiehan: Which version of kubuntu are you using?22:27
Pollywogrami: you didn't install a Debian package on an Ubuntu system, did you?22:28
wiehan7.1022:28
ramii tried22:28
ardchoillewiehan: Then all of the official repos should be enabled by default22:28
Pollywogrami: no don22:28
Pollywogrami: no don't do that22:28
Pollywogif you do, you will have those types of problems22:29
ramiit was in the ubuntu device manager22:29
Linux_Galoreardchoille: wil you compensate wiehan for the next few hours of his time when he could have got it working with envy in 10 min22:29
wiehanso, can I install stuff like firefox, etc, and all of them will work? (given that it's the Linux version)22:29
ardchoillewiehan: If you can pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, I can take a look and let you know.22:29
ardchoille!paste | wiehan22:29
ubotuwiehan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:29
_cjLinux_Galore: i pretty much use openbsd exclusively so anything glx is beyond my tempor threshold :_22:29
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: envy is not supported, please take it to another channel.22:30
wiehanhow do I do that?22:30
Pollywogrami: some Debian packages might work but libc6 from Debian repositories will break an Ubuntu system22:30
Linux_Galoreardchoille: your avoiding the issue, you have not established his hardware nor if the actual method suites his hardware22:30
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Take it to another channel, last warning.22:30
Pollywogrami: have you tried gtkpod?22:31
dash_feliz navidad a todos22:32
dash_^22:32
dash_^22:32
ramioh no.....22:33
ramiso am i in big trouble?22:35
ardchoillerami: For what?22:35
Pollywogrami: check your sources.list22:35
Pollywogmake sure you do not have debian entries in there22:36
ramidont sau such thing to a 13 year old! simplify.22:36
Pollywogthen try doing an update22:36
ramisat*22:36
Pollywogcheck the file /etc/sources.list22:36
ardchoille/etc/apt/sources.list22:36
Pollywogardchoille: ty22:37
Pollywogit's /etc/apt/sources.list22:37
* Pollywog has been using FreeBSD too22:37
rami_oh the connection cut22:42
rami_but i still cant find it guys22:42
ardchoillerami: What are you looking for, the sources.list?22:42
flokuehnmerry christmas to all of you.22:43
Pollywogardchoille: it seems rami might have installed some packages from Debian sources, if I understood correctly22:43
rami_yes. i found sources.list22:44
rami_but (freely translated) program sources came up22:44
rami_yes.22:44
Pollywogor he/she tried to22:44
rami_he22:44
ardchoillerami: Can you paste the content of your sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please?22:45
Pollywogperhaps an update will fix the problems once he knows that there are no sources he should not use22:45
rami_can try22:45
ardchoillePollywog: Good point22:45
rami_i already installed 146 updates today22:46
ardchoillerami_: We need to take a look at your sources.list to ensure you aren't using what you shouldn't be using22:46
rami_since i havent got internet for like 2 months22:47
rami_and btw, broken link22:47
rami_or may be my internet again22:47
rami_yes yes22:47
ardchoillerami_: Might be your connection, it works here.22:47
ardchoillerami_: Does this one work? http://pastebin.ca/22:48
rami_ardchoille: i dont know how to send it though. and no that doesnt work either22:49
ardchoillerami_: Well, when you get to a pastebin, you simply copy and paste the contents of the file into the pastebin. It will give you a link to give to us so we can see what you pasted.22:50
Pollywogrami_: are you using two computers at the moment?22:50
Pollywogone in IRC and the machine that is giving you problems?22:51
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wiehanwhat would happen if I enable all of the repositories?22:59
Dr_willisNot a lot. :) it would let you isntall a larger varityof pacakges.22:59
Dr_willisif you enable them - and install nothing..  Nothing at all will happen.23:00
ardchoillewiehan: Can you copy and paste the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list file into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can take a look at its content?23:00
Dr_willis!training23:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about training - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:01
* Linux_Galore pokes wiehan23:02
Dr_willisAre there (I imagine there are) some affordable places that can take a pdf file and print it out to a nice book for a reasonable price?23:03
Dr_willisNot sure what to google for -23:03
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ardchoillewiehan: Ok, now give us the url that pastebin gave you. We need that to be able to see what you pasted23:04
wiehanI PMed you23:05
ardchoillewiehan: Yes, but we should keep it in the channel so there are more eyes on the issue :)23:05
notvis it possible to tether my phone to kubuntu to use it as a modem?23:05
notvits an HTC 3G phone23:05
notvit works on windows but i want to use kubuntu on my dell laptop23:06
notvis it possible to tether my phone to my laptop to use it as a modem?23:06
ardchoillenotv: I'm not sure, but I have heard others using their phone as a USB modem or bluetooth modem.23:07
notvyes a usb modem23:07
notvthats what im wanting to do23:07
notvso this is possible?23:07
Dr_willispossible.. :) in general...23:07
ardchoillenotv: Hopefully someone will have an answer for that23:07
Dr_willisbut i bet some research will need to be done.23:07
ardchoillenotv: Perhaps search the ubuntu forums for usb modem?23:08
Dr_willisId say step 1 is getting bluetooth working. Or are you going to use usb?23:08
notvardchoille: thanks, im on it23:09
notvdr_willis: usb23:09
ardchoilleDr_willis: Thanks, he's on it :)23:09
Dr_willisYou do have a dialup ISP account?23:10
notvyes23:12
* Dr_willis had to ask that Obvious question. :)23:13
ardchoille:)23:13
notv= )23:13
Dr_willisIn this channel you dont assume Anything.23:13
Dr_willisI dont even have a House Phone any more. Unless you count Skype. Wonder if i can use Skype to dial up a BBS. :)23:14
notvlooks hairy23:14
notvit looks like bluetooth might be easier than usb23:19
ganymedehello, i am trying to select a font in kde control center, but the condensed, semicondensed, extended, and semiextended versions are not in the font style list23:25
ganymede i was able to select the semicondensed version by editing config files by hand23:25
rami__internet cut again....23:33
rami__but i<cant get the pASTEBIN to work23:34
ardchoillerami__: Does ot load in the browser at all?23:35
ardchoille*it23:35
X314can anyone give me a quick runthrough of installing something with a rpm file?23:36
ardchoilleX314: Don't use rpm files, you can cause problem. Look in the repos or look for a .deb file made for Ubuntu. What are you trying to install.23:36
ardchoille!rpm23:37
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)23:37
X314ardchoille: well. pretty much rpm is all I can get, its drivers for my printer..23:38
Dr_williswhat kind of printer?23:38
ardchoilleX314: Are you sure your printer isn't already compatible? Kubuntu has lots of printer drivers.23:38
Dr_willisTheres also some extra printer 'drivers' not installed by default for older printers i recall.23:39
rami__no.23:39
ardchoilleDr_willis: That's good to know23:39
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X314well.. its not old.. so..23:40
jmm_wifiHey mates23:40
ardchoilleHi jmm_wifi23:41
jmm_wifimerry xmas to all yah23:41
jmm_wifihi ardchoile23:41
jmm_wifilot's xmas gifs23:42
jmm_wifito all23:42
X314Though. I will try if it will just work.. who knows.. maybe I'll get lucky :p23:43
jmm_wifiok Hard question to all23:43
jmm_wifii got a athlon 64 4000+ x223:44
jmm_wifii can install 32 bit distros on it23:44
wubbajmm: Yes23:44
jmm_wifiok23:45
jmm_wifithank you...23:45
Evolution2hey guys,  I keep getting that superblock error telling me that it can't find the UUID of my kubuntu partition. can someone tell me how to find and replace the wrong UUID with the right one please? I have gutsy 32x23:45
X314nope23:45
jmm_wifibut i've got to install any x86 distro23:45
Dr_willis!uuid23:45
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)23:46
jmm_wifior a amd specific distro23:46
wubbaI don't believe there is a 'specific distro' for AMD - just 32/6423:46
Dr_willisHmm grub isent seeing the right uuid?   You could set up grub to use the normal /dev/whatever type name. i guess.. or find the right uuid and enter it.. or change the disks uuid to what grub thinks it should be.23:46
* Dr_willis seconds what wubba said.23:46
Dr_willisYou can compile apps for specific optimizations for specific cpus I guess.. but thats a bit overkill.23:47
vzduchGrub can use UUIDs?23:47
Evolution2Dr_willis: I got this error before. it seems to happen everytime I install a new partition the numbers get messed up23:47
jmm_wifiwubba23:47
vzduchI know that /etc/fstab can23:47
jmm_wifidon't think so23:47
Evolution2I have kubuntu, ubuntu, and studio23:47
Evolution2no windows :)23:47
X314ardchoille: so.. can I get the rpm file to work or should I just screw it?23:47
Dr_williskernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=91c4c158-95c4-45cd-af01-78039aaf0218 ro qui23:47
wubbajmm: don't think so what?23:48
vzduchah23:48
Dr_willisThe kernel intry in menu.lst is using the UUID. :)23:48
jmm_wifithat it isnt a specific distro for amd23:48
ardchoilleX314: I would suggest never using rpm files on *ubuntu systems, it can cause problems.23:48
wubbajmm: I thought you were asking if there was a specific disto - there isn't - just download the 32 or 64 if your using a 64 bit processor23:49
jmm_wifikububkubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso23:49
jmm_wifiok23:49
vzduchkububkubuntu?23:49
Dr_willisamd64 is the generic name for '64bit disrto' :)23:49
jmm_wifioh sorry my mistake23:49
jmm_wifilol23:49
X314ardchoille: ah well. okay ^^ thanks :) take care.. and merry christmas to you ;)23:49
Dr_willissince amd had the first  common 64bit cpus I guess..23:49
jmm_wifinewbie23:49
jmm_wifihere23:49
ardchoilleX314: Thank you, same to you :)23:49
jmm_wifibut can i install a i586 distro for instance ...23:51
Dr_willisI always use the 32bit disrtos.. Its less hassle23:51
Dr_willistheres no requirement for 64bit disrto on the 64bit cpus23:52
Dr_willisIts not needed. :) people often dont realize that23:52
Dr_willisit 'can' be a little more optmized/efficent at times.. but it depends on your needs.23:52
jmm_wifithat's my problem23:52
ardchoilleAnd with kubuntu, from what I've seen, it's a lot more work to get 64 working23:52
DragnslcrUnless you have 4 GB of memory, it's probably not any better23:53
jmm_wifispecif apps not released for 64 bit distro23:53
sourcemakerHow can I build my own kernel in kubuntu using the last stable vanilla kernel... (with nvidia support)? I know how to compile and install but I have read... that kunbutu is quit different to other distros like gentoo23:53
Dr_willisEven with 4gb of memory it may or may not be an issue. :)23:53
ardchoille!kernel23:53
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages23:53
Dr_willisi think ya mean 'gentoo' is quite diffrent  from  the otehr disrtos. :)23:54
ardchoille!nvidia | sourcemaker have you seen this page?23:54
ubotusourcemaker have you seen this page?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:54
sourcemakerardchoille: I know this guide... but I will use the last vanilla kernel... not 2.6.22 :-)23:54
Dr_willisthe phrase 'kernel with nvidia support' is confusing to me.. You isntall the nvidia drivers for your kernel.. so whats so special about the vanilla kernel?23:54
ardchoillesourcemaker: Ah, ok23:54
jmm_wifiok and how do i install drivers for my ati pro 2400 hd based g card23:55
sourcemakerardchoille: I am coming from the gentoo world :-) I wan't to have the last stable kernel... 2.6.22 does not work for me23:55
Dr_willis!ati23:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:55
ardchoillesourcemaker: Ok, then perhaps that kernel post from ubotu will help you :)23:55
sourcemakerardchoille: ok... thanks... I will try23:57
jmm_wifii'll give a look to that23:57
sourcemakerardchoille: Is there a difference between vanilla and kubuntu kernel repos?23:58
ardchoillesourcemaker: I don't really know, I'm not much with kernel stuff.23:58
sourcemakerardchoille: ok23:59

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