[00:00] NickPresta, it's obvious that it won't improve it, I want to know if it will be worse than the source... [00:00] hey everyone! its Jonathon Riddell's Birthday! everyone go over to #kubuntu-devel and wish him a happy birthday [00:01] ok cool cause i can't find it Nosredna [00:01] hi all [00:02] A|i3N8: http://digitalife.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/using-your-mobile-phone-as-a-gprs-modem-with-ubuntu-linux-via-dku-2-usb-cable/ [00:03] guys how can i run compiz? i've installed all the packages but when i run it it said i have to install compiz-gnome-manager but i got a "break install" note when i request to install it. [00:03] !compiz | alwrwr2003 [00:03] alwrwr2003: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion [00:04] A|i3N8: http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/usb-mobile-phone-modem-under-linux/ [00:04] sourcemaker: Here is a better spot: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ [00:05] Whoa THANK YOU noredna [00:05] nosredna [00:05] hehe [00:05] NeoFax: And now... download and install? [00:05] how can is see, what type my integrated webcam is? lsusb normally? [00:05] wish i had a printer. lol. Can I save that as text and pull it up in kubuntu?? [00:05] !webcam [00:05] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [00:06] or do i gotta somehow mount the partition which I've forgotten how to do lol [00:06] sourcemaker: Yes, but keep the page open as you may need to download some more files [00:06] Hi can anybody help, all my X-browsers: Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon freeze downloading of some pages (www.ubunto.com), but text based like w3m and links are ok... [00:07] noaXess: lsusb or lspci [00:07] A|i3N8: no... you can't mount that partition with vista [00:07] basy: Try starting one of them from the CLI to see exactly what your error is. [00:07] so um.. how um.. can i like, .. yea... get the txt file onto linux? lol [00:08] A|i3N8: you can probably save it on vista a putll it up with kubuntu though. probably easiest just to write down the essential instructions. [00:08] that's what i jeant lol [00:08] meant [00:08] yea true. [00:08] i'll try to retrieve it first i guess. hehe. Thanks :) Be back to let you know if I got it working [00:09] how to strat it throu CLI? plz [00:09] from terminal? [00:09] NeoFax: I am sorry... I do not know about apt... was is udep? [00:09] NeoFax: what is [00:10] sourcemaker: That is the deb files that the installer uses to install the kernel. [00:10] This is probably the one you want: linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb [00:12] guys when ever i try to install compiz it shows me a msg that says Broken Packages! [00:12] what can i do [00:13] alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude install -f [00:13] then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then try again.. [00:14] thx Neo i will try [00:14] Dr_willis: You shouldn't have to do the update and upgrade. It should fix itself [00:14] Should.. :) [00:15] doesn't work :( [00:15] it shows me this msg [00:15] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [00:15] emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed [00:15] Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable [00:15] E: Broken packages [00:16] OK, then sudo aptitude remove emerald and wait for libwnck18 to be put in the repos [00:16] Hi, all my X-browsers (Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon) freeze downloading of lots of pages (www.ubuntu.com), and never display full page, but text based browsers works OK, check, plz: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg [00:16] thx man i will try [00:16] basy: Did you run one from the CLI like I said before to see the error? [00:17] : how can i run it from CLI, what does it mean plz? [00:17] i found libwnck22 installed [00:17] what should i do next? [00:18] alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude remove libwnck22 [00:18] I was told that gutsy had write access to NTFS upon install, but dolphin does not mount the NTFS partition.. any help? [00:18] removed [00:19] it ask me to remove compiz and compiz-gnome [00:19] should i do so? [00:19] : i tried this strace konqueror [00:20] !mouse [00:20] Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto [00:20] hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 [00:20] NeoFax: which package is required for the firmware? I have installed linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb => /lib/firmware/2.6.24-2-generic: not found [00:20] alwrwr2003: Yes. Then install emerald first then install compiz [00:20] sourcemaker: Use the modules deb [00:21] ok thx Neo [00:21] basy: What was the error? [00:21] !logitech [00:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:21] !mx700 [00:21] hi folks, what's the easiest way to encode xvid/divx files to psp format? i've tried mencoder, but doesn't seem to be working. [00:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about mx700 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:21] !anything [00:21] So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone. [00:22] cool.. they were thinking :) [00:22] ; and when it feezes there was infinity loop of: select(22, [3 4 5 7 9 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21], [], [], {0, 49505}) = 0 (Timeout) [00:23] but half of page is ok, can you check: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg [00:24] NeoFax: There are a lot of modules... [00:24] fulat2k: http://pspvc.sourceforge.net/ [00:25] sorry, i'll wait until you help sourcemaker [00:26] in System Settings->Disk&Filesystems when I click Administrator Mode, I never get administrator mode.. it just goes back to non-admin [00:26] hello [00:27] sourcemaker: Try: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/ [00:28] NeoFax: Thank's I will try [00:28] basy: I can't help out with strace. Try doing what I said and open konsole and type firefox > firefox-error.txt & When it crashes, upload the text file to pastebin [00:28] Neo i tried to install emerald but i got this msg [00:28] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [00:28] emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed [00:28] Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable [00:28] E: Broken packages [00:29] i've already installed libwnck22 [00:29] alwrwr2003: Where are you getting emerald from? [00:29] i just write the command in the terminal sudo apt-get install emerald [00:29] alwrwr2003: Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin [00:29] meryy xmas to everyone! ho ho ho lol [00:30] sry but what is pastebin? [00:30] NeoFax: It seems to be working... [00:30] : ok i'm doing thanx [00:30] alwrwr2003: http://pastebin.com/ [00:31] hello [00:31] alwrwr2003: You copy and paste your sources.list there. It will then spit out a webpage. Copy the URL and paste here. [00:32] how do I make hald obey users above 1000 UID? [00:32] NeoFax: Thanks for helping me .... I rebooting my system now [00:32] http://pastebin.com/m749480d4 [00:33] killer_: To mount ntfs do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -L label-for-your-drive-here /media/directory-you-make [00:33] this is the url [00:33] does anyone know of a software that will allow me to extract numerical data from a graph? [00:34] g'day receiving (again) this message when i run ksystemlog >> You do not have sufficient permissions to read '/var/log/syslog' also same with kernel.log [00:34] anyone try kde4? [00:34] someon1, what kind of graph? [00:34] a 2-d image -- pdf, jpeg, whatever [00:34] I've seen something for Mac OSX (that isnt freeware) while will do exactly this [00:34] huh... I don't think that's possible... or easy [00:34] NeoFax: I'd like to click the /media directory and have it mounted as it is advertised === Delvien_ is now known as Delvien [00:35] you import the image, tell the program what the axis are, and then click on points on the plot [00:36] NeoFax: when I click "system menu" icon next to the K{gear},then click Storage Media the NTFS is already on the list [00:37] alwrwr2003: Comment out the download.tuxfamily line as you are mixing feisty with gutsy and I would comment out the CD line as well. Then try installing emerald === Katze is now known as Shely [00:37] ok [00:38] : i tried ( konqueror > kon.log & ) but kon.log was empty, same with firefox :( [00:38] killer_: That is not mounting the system, nor is it write capable as far as I know. Also, to have the drive to automount you would need to put it into your /etc/fstab file [00:38] basy: Try checking out your ~/.xsession-errors file. Also, is this website flash driven? [00:39] NeoFax: I put it in the fstab, then when I click it in /media I got an error about something died unexpectedly [00:39] NeoFax: also tried to configure it w/ "sudo systemsettings" [00:39] NeoFax: that did not work either [00:40] killer_: try doing sudo mount -a and see what error you get. [00:41] ok emerald has been installed !! thank u very much Neo ! should i now install compiz?? [00:41] alwrwr2003: Yes [00:42] ok [00:42] NeoFax: I know I can subvert the kubuntu mounting/system administration and manually get the partition mounted [00:42] NeoFax: my intent is to learn how to teach people over the phone to get past these everyday hurdles [00:43] killer_: The point is to get the error. and rule out mount then solve what the error is. It just may not be a hal problem [00:43] NeoFax: currently I just ssh into their box and fix things.. but they should be able to fix their own issues [00:44] NeoFax: ok.. try that soon then.. I'm currently googling howto manage hald-storage [00:45] Why is freemind not in Gutsy's repository? Do I need to install it manually? [00:45] If I remember correctly, freemind was in Feisty's main repo. [00:45] neo i've installed all the compiz packages [00:45] how can i run it now? [00:46] alwrwr2003: Are you in KDE? [00:46] yes [00:46] !blkid.tab [00:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about blkid.tab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:46] alwrwr2003: compiz --replace & then emerald --replace & [00:46] figures [00:47] i got this msg when i type compiz --replace [00:47] Checking for Xgl: not present. [00:47] No whitelisted driver found [00:47] aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity [00:47] no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting [00:48] Is there a KDE development environment in kubuntu like there is in knoppix? [00:48] I got a lot of => ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81) inside .xsession-errors, is it OK? [00:49] basy: That is fine, as the generic icon will be used. [00:50] alwrwr2003: What video card do you have? [00:50] ok. I have a question of opinion: VMWare or Virt. Box? [00:50] nVedia 8500 [00:50] alwrwr2003: What driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [00:50] il12, install both. :) [00:50] il12, i find some live cd's and disrtos have issues with one or the other. [00:51] Dr_willis: tyvm. [00:51] !madwifi [00:51] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [00:51] is it just apt-get install vmware and apt-get install virtualbox? or..? [00:51] Section "Device" [00:51] Identifier "nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8500 GT]" [00:51] Driver "nv" [00:51] BusID "PCI:1:0:0" [00:53] dr_willis: install vmware and install virtualbox or....? === Bardamu is now known as SSZ [00:55] hola [00:56] alwrwr2003, did you install nvidia-glx? [00:56] il12, install them both.... === awen- is now known as awen_ [00:56] dr_willis: I am asking as to the app name for the command-line installer [00:56] no [00:56] !vmware [00:56] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers [00:56] !virtualbox [00:56] VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox [00:57] alwrwr2003, what happens if you type glxgears? [00:57] :( not available for Gutsy..... ok. So I suppose the second one will have to do. [00:58] i see some gears moving [00:58] moving fast? [00:58] no [00:58] NeoFax: Nice try... but I also have to update the nvidia modules.... [00:58] normal i think [00:58] They are both avail for gutsy [00:59] You just have touse vmwareserver for gutsy :) [00:59] sourcemaker: Yes, you will have to download that deb as well. [00:59] Oh. alright. [00:59] TY! haha. doctor knows best. :P === litbang is now known as riefzu [00:59] alwrwr2003: do sudo dpkg -L | grep nvidia [01:00] alwrwr2003, you might try to change that 'nv' to 'nvidia', I had to do that when I had one [01:00] What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it. [01:00] NeoFax: There are a lot of problems for just fixing a minor problem with a WLAN card... [01:00] Merry Xmas everyone Night Night ! xxx [01:00] !/media system [01:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about media system - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:00] a game.... that's all, for the moment, at any rate. LastChaos by Aeria Games if that makes any difference. [01:00] I can't install flash (aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree)=> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, i tried 10 times, why? [01:00] i got this [01:00] dpkg-query: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument [01:01] Dr_Willis: what about Qemu? the Ubuntu VMware page says to also consider that program. [01:02] NeoFax: any tips or URLs on how to configure /media mounted filesystems? [01:02] NeoFax: It's like going back to gentoo... doing all yourself... [01:02] -------> What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it. [01:02] :) [01:03] ok.. do you know which would be best for running a game? [01:03] sourcemaker: Kinda, but you can use the restricted drivers package from hardy and you should be fine [01:04] alwrwr2003: OK try with a lower case l [01:05] il12, for a 3d game.. None of them. [01:05] sry do u mean i should replace nv with nividia in the xorg.conf? [01:05] il12, they are designed to run the whole OS. Not individual apps. [01:05] Ok, so I suppose I just keep my windows for that then? [01:05] tried and showed me this [01:05] killer_: Check up on hal rules. That is what actually mounts drives that are not permanently attached [01:06] ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1ubuntu7 NVIDIA binary kernel module common files [01:06] I just heard some mention of people playing WoW earlier, so I thought I'd see if I could get LC to work maybe in a similar way. [01:07] alwrwr2003: Do you have this package installed along with the nvidia-glx package and xserver-xorg-xgl package? [01:07] If so, then yes, just change nv to nvidia. [01:07] il12, they are running WoW with Wine, or Cedega. [01:08] il12, Wine is different in what it does from vmware/virtualbox/qemu [01:08] what's so special about cedega? [01:08] Dr_willis: I've tried wine, and apparently there is some sort of a security protection measure with LC that won't allow it to be run. I get the error that it is already running on my machine. [01:08] Cedega is wine tweaked out for games. and with a nicer interface [01:09] il12, whats LC ? [01:09] i have this installed "xserver-xorg-core" but i can't see xgl .. the "nvidia-glx" is not installed .. should i install it? [01:09] LC = LastChaos by Aeria Games [01:09] the game. sorry [01:10] il12: Have you installed it multiple times on any computer? [01:10] and Cedega is by subscription only so I'll have to pass on that. [01:10] NeoFax: cool.. been googling for that info, "man hald" exposes no config info, kinda sad really [01:10] firecrotch: no. it's a free game, just a 400+MB download, install it, download the patches and login. [01:11] il12: Oh, I must have been thinking of some other game then or something [01:11] okies .. back :) Joyeux Noël [01:11] il12, You run the game installer with wine and it says the game is allready installed? [01:11] firecrotch: np, you had a better idea than I did. I've no idea of what to do or to try. apparently it doesn't do this error on Ubuntu Feisty. [01:11] <[GhOsT]> is there anyone have/had any problem with usplash/splashy in (k)ubuntu gutsy 7.10 64-bit ? [01:12] Dr_willis: no, I attempt to launch the game and it says it is already running. [01:12] whats the best place to get mouse theme? [01:12] il12, Interesting.. got a URL? ill try it real fast. [01:13] alwrwr2003: it's just have 5,2K --- right? [01:13] mani213, kde-look.org [01:13] the nvidia-glx is 13 MB [01:13] i'm downloading it right now [01:13] !nvidia | alwrwr2003 [01:13] alwrwr2003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:13] have you read that? [01:14] has anyone installed NUT (Network UPS Tools) ? [01:14] no i didn't [01:14] Schuenemann: I will use the lastest version available... not the current kernel version--- this does not work [01:14] dr_willis: http://lastchaos.aeriagames.com/download [01:14] sourcemaker, really? latest version of what? [01:15] i've installed nvidia-glx now [01:15] Schuenemann: the kernel version... and all it's dependencies [01:16] sourcemaker, how did you set it up? [01:16] Schuenemann: It does not work... [01:16] what doesn't? [01:16] dr_willis: this site, however, seems to present a 'crack' that you can use to bypass this 'error'.. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708 [01:17] I am sorry... but I will install Gentoo on this system... It's not a option for me for waiting 4 months... for getting the wlan card to work... [01:18] dolphin seems to hide any information that is useful [01:18] il12, cracks are normally for copy protection. :) id hope a free game has none [01:18] may end up uninstalling it [01:18] dr_willis: well, apparently there is a 'cheat protection' which is what gives me the error that says it is already running. [01:19] NeoFax: I resign... === afiestas is now known as Maybe [01:20] il12, dont see how thats cheating really.. every other MMORPG out allows multi instances. :) === Maybe is now known as afiestas [01:20] whats the best msn for linux? [01:20] mani213, I think amsn [01:20] any other ones [01:20] i tried amsn wasnt really all that [01:20] dr_willis: me neither, it's just what I found on this site: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708 [01:20] well, at least it's what looks more like M$ msn [01:20] sourcemaker: What's wrong now? [01:21] dr_willis: it's in the first comment that it explains the issue. *shrug* now I just need to -find- that app. [01:21] mani213, there is also pidgin and kopete, but they are generic IM's and don't look like MSN. Why didn't you like amsn? [01:21] NeoFax: nothing is working... :-) I have installed all the modules... but nvidia is not coming up... [01:21] il12, yep. Saw that.. no links given to find it. :) [01:21] sourcemaker: Did you installed the restricted drivers module [01:21] amsn doesnt have the sound when i get a message [01:21] or is it i didnt install the mother board driver yet? [01:21] NeoFax: And for the moment... I think.. I do not understand alle the specifics of ubuntu.. [01:21] mani213, it does [01:22] mani213, is your sound working anywhere? [01:22] dr_willis: yeah.... but I've no other solution. There are other comments that others cannot find this either. [01:22] yeye when i log into linux i hear the sound as well ass logging off [01:22] ok guys i enabled nvidia acceleration through restricted drivers module [01:22] and it's need the computer to be restarted [01:22] Going to watch a movie. will see you all tomorrow! G'Night! [01:23] thank u all for ur help [01:23] i'm restarting my computer and i will be right back [01:23] mani213, well, I there is sound in preferences. I disable because I think it's annoying [01:24] lol kk thanks ill play around with it [01:25] mani213, I prefer it than M$'s. I can disable most of the annoying things and it has plugins [01:25] NeoFax: It's there any internal documentation available... how Kubuntu works... (technical details)? [01:25] hmm.. hald is looking more like a winbox util, no known ways to configure it, users are locked out of when thehy shouldn't be [01:25] one more question you know how the mac computers have that shortcut i cons on the dock what do i need to get that for linux [01:26] looks like th best way to run kubuntu gutsy is just to use root as your main login [01:26] NeoFax: I am not interessted in asking stupid questions... without success... maybe I am wrong... and have forgot a important step... [01:27] sorry all for ranting .. but I'm finding kubuntu less useable each distro [01:27] I install a new version, then find I spend hours trying to things I need on a daily basis, that I could do previously [01:28] why is the Kubuntu .iso file larger than the Ubuntu .iso file? [01:30] ok nvm that's kind of an obvious question. [01:30] whats a good program to get that icon dock for linux? [01:32] anyone know how to configure hald to allow uid 1000 to have access and not be blocked? [01:35] killer_, ive heard thers some hal/uid1000/mounting some drives issue/bug. but never seen a de-facto reason for it all [01:35] I just mount the things manually :) [01:36] hmm.. possibly could change my user to uid 500 may resolve it [01:36] but I'd actually like to know how to configure it, and not work around it [01:38] im wonder ing if its more of a 'all users cant access it' 1000 is the default initial user. [01:38] Dr_willis: I mount things manually too, but I'm trying to get people to use kubuntu instead of windows, and problems I could solve with a click or two in Mandrake 9.2 seem increasingly impossible w/ kubuntu [01:38] killer_, i find the problems with 'adding user friendly features' to be the bigger and bigger issue these days. [01:38] I've been using kubuntu as my only workstation since 6.1 [01:39] sinve ive not experienced the user1000 hald issue.. i cant really say what the deal is or how to fix it. [01:39] I thought the 'motto' of ubuntu was to make linux useable to the masses.. so I've been promoting it to lots of people [01:39] I imagine theres a 100+ page forume thing is. [01:40] killer_, one bug does not mean the whole OS is trash.. if thats the case. all of them are Trash. [01:40] i found gutsy to work fine on all my machines. I cant even recall any issues. I did do Clean installs on them all also. Not upgrades [01:41] Dr_willis: no.. it doesn't I still use it dedicatedly.. but win-only users should be able to find answers w/o even calling me, and that hasn't been happeening [01:41] -e [01:42] Im reminded of all the windows-tech support i do at work all day. :) [01:43] But automounting is still 100% better then it was say 2 years ago.. and i imagine it will only getbetter [01:43] Hi all, I am running gusty on a system where I have loaded the nvidia restricted drivers. How do I get the cool compiz effects? [01:44] I don't see any way to turn them on or control them. [01:44] Dr_willis: I agree.. don't misinterpret me, I'm not dogging the OS.. I like it alot.. I'm trying to learn the changes of the new gutsy distro [01:44] !compiz-fusion [01:44] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion [01:46] ubotu: thanks alot. [01:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks alot. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:46] Dr_willis: people say "Im tired of spyware" and tell them to d/l the new kubuntu and install it, call if they have questions [01:47] but I almost never update my workstation, I get it working and use it for 3-5 years [01:47] killer_, just curious, who are these "people"? [01:47] now I find when I get called, I say "do this" and they respond, "I don't see that" [01:47] * Dr_willis checks the forums for hal 1000 refused [01:47] customers, cousins, family, strangers who have been pointed to me by others to put onto linux [01:48] and what do i find.. one guy basicially teaching the other the linux fundamentals in a thread.. how to sudo.. how to do this.. argh.. time to start skimming :) [01:48] and I give them all the advice "just do "man " for all the info you need [01:49] now I"m finding more things are missing the man pages [01:50] Dr_willis: yep.. someone saying "sudo dolphin" .. I want to configure the OS to work w/ the user, not configure the USER to work around the OS :) [01:50] Dr_willis: I think very few need ms windows anymore [01:51] most do email, read PDFs browse the web, create documents.. none of which require ms winxp anymore [01:51] Im still not even clear on the EXACT PROBLEM. :) [01:51] they go on about the fstab and stuff.. but hald is whats used by the automounting stuff I thought [01:52] hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 [01:52] an entry in the fstab makes the automounter ignore it. i thought [01:52] and what/when/where is that message appearing? [01:52] I need hal-storage-mount-all-options to NOT refuse uid 1000 [01:52] in dolphin, I click one of the hard disk icons that show up [01:53] and thers no fstab entry for those hard drives? these are removeable or Non remvoeable hds ? [01:53] so I installed gutsy and open storage media, then click an HD, that's as far as I got [01:53] killer_: modify its settings in systemsettings->advanced->disks and filesystems [01:53] nosrednaekim: that brought me to my second problem. I could not get administrator mode, [01:54] killer_: what happened. [01:54] nosrednaekim: I had to do sudo systemsettings [01:54] killer_, ive noticed that in some of the config apps - the 'administartor mode' button is off the bottom of the screen. [01:54] maxamize the window will make it show up properly [01:55] yeah [01:55] I thionk part of that is due to how some of them are 'embeded' in the system settings tool [01:55] nosrednaekim: I click administrator mode, and it goes gray, then goes bright again and never asks for password [01:55] Hmm.. now thats different. :) [01:56] killer_: well, running kdesuso systemsettings should work... [01:56] *kdesudo [01:57] nosrednaekim: yep... I've had to do that in the past, and a logout/login may fix that also, but I'd like to know why it's broke, [01:57] killer_: don't really know... but lets get back to your disk mounting. can you modify it in that tool? [01:58] nosrednaekim: I quit using windows in 2001 because I got tired of needless logouts and reboots [01:58] no need for a reboot... [01:58] or logout. [01:59] Hmm.. all the fix's i see for the uid1000 issue. are basicially 'put a proper entry in the fstab' :) [01:59] nosrednaekim: when I try to modify the partition settings, it places an entry in fstab that breaks dolphin [01:59] killer_: how does it break it? what does it say? [02:00] havin trouble with adept... more or less can't find anything and I've apparently selected the multi and universe repositories [02:00] wry: did you press the "reload(or whatever its called)" button [02:00] Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: I don't see an entry for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab, but it's in dolphin.. [02:00] yup [02:01] wry: did you go to adept->manage repositories and check all the options except source code? [02:01] I've tried to upgrade too, but it crashes at 50% [02:01] nosrednaekim: I got a "died unexpectedly" message.. sorry for the generic info, but I deleted the fstab entry and was back to the hald uid 1000 issue [02:01] Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu? [02:02] killer_: thats ok. [02:02] killer_, this is where the automounting stuff differes from the fstab :) if its in fstab.. its not gettting autopmounted any more by hald. Its gettuing mounted by the system at boot. [02:02] OR you can make it where a user can mount it on the fly. [02:02] killer_: hmm try this "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sda1" [02:02] disk not in fstab, system tryes the hal automounting.. in fstab..hal ignores it. :) [02:03] Dr_willis: but it's not mounted.. that's my problem.. I have no access to the /dev/sda1 data [02:03] but the help/threads i am seeing on this - seem to ignreo that fact. [02:03] right click on it see if theres a mount menu item? [02:03] * Dr_willis tries the obvious [02:03] this is an Exteral USB NTFS drive? or what exactly? [02:04] had everything but canpnical and sourcecode selected. I was faffin about w it a few days ago though and think I've tried all of 'em [02:05] wry: and you have the mirror set to the main us one? [02:05] Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: ok. I chmod a+rw /dev/sda1 and and dolphin still won't open it [02:05] Nosre: trying it again now... seems to have frozen @ 30%... I'll give it some time [02:06] killer_: still with the uid1000 error? [02:06] Dr_willis: this is NTFS on main system drive, I have dual boot so I can access mywindows mobile OS phone programs [02:06] nosrednaekim: yep.. still complaining that I"m uid 1000 [02:07] killer_: heh... try this "kdesudo dolphin" [02:07] and mount it from there [02:07] killer_, Hmm.. every time ive ever installed Ubuntu. it always puts a entry in the fstab for the IDE/Sata disks. Could be that IS the issue.. hal isent set to auto-mount those drives. only external/removeable ones. [02:07] but as a warning, you won't be able to read it anywhere else.. [02:08] nosrednaekim: I get a DCOP error from kdesudo dolpin [02:08] for my needs the proper way to mount my ntfs filesystems is to use the ntfs-3g tool and put the proper entrys in fstab. [02:08] killer_: that shouldn't be fatal. [02:09] hi guys [02:09] nosrednaekim: aah.. so it wasn't fatal, after clicking OK.. I eventually get a dolphin window [02:09] the compiz worked fine with me ! [02:09] but how can i use the 3D Box ? [02:09] nosrednaekim: Dr_willis: and as root I have a clickable accessable /dev/sda1 [02:09] alwrwr2003: install the compizconfig-settings-manager [02:10] so the drive can indeed be mounted if I want to be root [02:10] installed but i didn't know how to use it [02:10] which is the last thing I'm going to tell a newbie to do on the phone [02:10] alwrwr2003: "ccsm" [02:10] killer_: yeah. I think that issue was just fixed in hardy [02:11] Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu? [02:11] !hardware | wubba [02:11] hello all [02:11] wubba: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [02:11] it's worked but what is the shortcut for the 3D box? [02:11] What is some good software for burning an avi to a DVD so it can be played on a DVD player? [02:11] killer_, so as root the device automounted>? [02:11] can anybody tell me how do I put a game in fullscreen? (not wine) [02:12] alwrwr2003: ctrl+alt+arrow keys [02:12] !dvd [02:12] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [02:12] dr_willis yep.. kdesudo dolphin works as expected [02:12] ubotu: I for some ungodly reason can't get k9copy to work on my system :( [02:12] killer_, it could be the device was mounted beforhand BUT when it got mounted by 'root' and that is why the user couldent access it. [02:12] i see 2 compiz tray icons is that normal? [02:12] well then.. lol [02:13] prolem with this problem is that i cant get it to even do it on my system so i cant test it. :) [02:13] Dr_willis: very probable... [02:13] Dr_willis: "df" showed no mount [02:13] oh..... [02:14] killer_, is there some reason you dont mount the filesystems with ntfs-3g at boot time? [02:14] If the user wants full access to the ntfs disks - thats how to do it,. [02:14] Dr_willis: nope.. I think it should be read-only mounted at install w/o asking the user on dual boot machines [02:15] I thought the installer asked where to mount the ntfs/windows disks TO.. if you left the mount point blank. I thouhg it dident mount them at all. [02:15] This may be a diff in the alternaive and Live Cd installer [02:15] killer_: FYI... you can right click on the device in dolphin->actions->open as root... [02:15] nosrednaekim, thats scary [02:15] :) [02:16] of course... it'll prompt you for a password [02:16] nosrednaekim: I don't mind open as root if read-only [02:16] is it normal to see 2 compiz tray icons? [02:16] how can i cancel 1 [02:16] alwrwr2003: did the cube ork? [02:16] nope I take out "mount as user" and still can't mount [02:17] well i can use it from inside but i don't know how to use it from outside [02:17] thats a setting in the settings manager somewhere [02:18] Does anyone know of any DVD burning software that will burn an avi to player-ready DVD? [02:18] gauss_, they exist.. but they are not 1 click and its done - sort of things... [02:18] tovid is one.. it also has a guy [02:19] gui :) as an option [02:19] but it dident work properly for me the other day [02:19] ok i see 2 compiz icons tray is this normal? [02:19] gauss_, check the dvdplayer for the divx logo, it may not be necessary to recode the avi files, most are divx or xvid now. [02:20] sweet, thanks [02:20] I recently discovered that fact about my elcheapo koss player [02:20] k3b has some neat features that i have never used.. :) [02:20] BluesKaj, been wanting to get one of those also.. but too cheap [02:21] I've got a problem with my virtual consoles. When I switch to them, I just get a flashing cursor. [02:21] 100$ Dr_willis [02:21] whats an emovixdvd anyway :) k3b has that. never seen that befor [02:21] BluesKaj, that will make like 6 the # of dvd players i got around here. :) [02:22] waiting for the dvd plyares that can also work as UpNP clients. :) [02:22] Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: brb.. gonna do a relogin to see if it fixes the administrator mode [02:22] Arwen: which ones? f1-6? [02:22] yeah [02:23] Arwen: you using ATI? [02:23] yes [02:23] yeah... its a problem with ATI's... [02:23] gauss_, make sure you choose the dvd data option when burning avi files due to the fact that K3B balks at avi files in general , silly but true [02:23] nosrednaekim, is there a remedy? [02:24] Arwen: don't remember... probably. search google for it [02:24] Hmm - I only burn dvd data.. :) never really noticed the other features till now [02:25] Dr_willis, yeah, we're on our 4th dvdp , but so far this one has outlasted the others : ) [02:27] BluesKaj, we bought like 5 2 yrs ago for $20 a pop.. of course they wouldent play a large # of comercial dvds sadly [02:27] Cool. K3b can do emovix - making a live cd that plays video files.. heh [02:28] nosrednaekim: ok a relogin fixed administrator mode, and I now have dolphin access to read-only /dev/sda1 [02:28] even without being root? [02:28] I think that's because I did an OEM install, and created my user afterwords [02:29] possibly.. [02:29] how do you run a .bat file with wine [02:29] nosrednaekim: I configured the /media/sda1 mount in system settings-> disk&filesystems, then just open dolphin as a regular user [02:29] also set it to mount at boot time [02:30] killer_: cool :D... so everything is good now? [02:32] nosrednaekim: I tried the main srver, it stalled at 30%. I wen away and came back. Seemed to be done but still no results for my searches. Trying the Australian server now and it's stopped at 30% again [02:32] wry: thats weird. [02:33] gah, I need my consokles [02:33] Arwen: it has something to do with the fglrx driver and the framebuffer driver [02:33] not using fglrx [02:33] nosrednaekim: your tellin me! You know where I can get another apt frontend like syaptic or the like? [02:34] nosrednaekim: well [02:34] hey, can anyone give me a bit of advice on installing from tar files using Kinstaller? [02:34] wry: well, if "apt-get update" doesn't work from the commandline, nothing will. [02:34] nosrednaekim: I'd like to know how to administrate hald, but that can wait for another day I suppose [02:35] nosrednaekim: how bout "sudo apt-get update" [02:35] killer_: heh, yeah... that'd probably get ver complicated :D [02:35] nosrednaekim, I'm not using fglrx, so do you have any other idea what might be wrong? [02:35] killer_: come to think of it.... yes, that would work a bit better... [02:35] ticat85, kinstaller? [02:35] yes, Kinstaller [02:36] running into some ./configure error [02:36] Arwen: oh! hmmm. no I don't, though I think I heard tell of that happening with the OSS driver too. again, search google [02:37] yeah, I did, only hearing about fglrx... [02:37] ticat85, some tar files don't have the configure or even make files [02:38] :| humm, well I'm all new to this - installed Kubuntu all of 3 days ago - I wasn't aware of this [02:38] any ideas for installing some files for Sopcast or Gamefu? === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh [02:39] how do i get HD Intel Audio working on feisty 7.04? [02:39] ticat85, which app are you trying to install ? [02:39] !sound | roberts [02:39] roberts: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [02:40] nosrednaekim: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [02:40] BluesKaj, I'm trying to install the Sopcast (P2P Tv client) and Gamefu (multi-emulator frontend) [02:40] nosrednaekim: that'd be the problem, yaeh? [02:40] wry: thats very odd! switch to the US columbia mirror since I know that one works(i use it) [02:40] i can't figure out how to get ls to list everything page by page - i read the man file for ls, there's nothing in there that mentions sectioning out results... [02:40] right, the sound system is running [02:41] arrrghhh: you may want du.. [02:41] nosrednaekim: in the command line I assume? [02:41] BluesKaj, or more specifically: Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz [02:41] wry: no... in adept [02:41] well in windows, dir /p did the job. [02:41] sorry ticat85 , dunnno anything about game apps, and not familiar with Sopcast [02:42] nosrednaekim: du is for file sizes and essentially the footprint of that directory on your hdd... am i wrong? [02:42] BluesKaj, well how about this: how would you normally go about installing any program from a downloaded TAR file without the configure file included [02:43] arrrghhh: no... but it does preint them out kinda by page (DIR by DIR) [02:43] der you have to pipe it... ls ~ more [02:43] well not tilde but the straight line (for pipe) [02:43] ls | more [02:43] ja... that's the one. someone in the linux channel suggested it. [02:44] Bash Basics :) [02:44] ticat85, right click on the tar files and choose properties , click the permissions tab and check 'is executable' box before trying to install those files [02:44] yea, i just figured it would be a switch from the man ls, like ls -p or something [02:44] kinda counter-intuitive if you ask me, having to pipe it but whatever that works. [02:45] arrrghhh, i find it VERY VERY intuituve [02:45] BluesKaj, what would this accomplish in the long run? sorry I just want to know the basics... as I said, new to this [02:45] nosrednaekim: still stalling at 30% [02:45] ticat85, I've run into that prob myself and have yet to find the answer [02:45] expecting every program to have its own pageing feture is counter-productive [02:45] wry: which one is it stalling on? [02:46] universe?security? [02:46] ticat85, there are ppl here who know [02:46] nosrednaekim: am I to assume that I've just got a dodgey distro? [02:46] Dr_willis: i see what you're saying, i am not used to piping output on the cli... new concept to me. old habits die hard. [02:46] wry: probably not. [02:46] BluesKaj, well if anyone does know :) please chime in anytime now! anyone? please?:( [02:46] wry: probably just a bad sources.list.... are you running gutsy? [02:46] arrrghhh, try alias lm = 'ls | more' [02:46] nosrednaekim, how does one install tar files that don't contain configure , make make install [02:47] hmm thats not ruight.. lets see [02:47] BluesKaj: ouch.... with some fancy gcc stuff, but i'm not a C person. === unix is now known as unix_ [02:47] nosrednaekim: cc.columbia.edu === unix_ is now known as unix [02:47] i think i can remember to pipe the output... i just need to get used to the bash. [02:47] BluesKaj: reading the doco provided with the program [02:47] wry: and... [02:47] or in the archive eg. README, INSTALL [02:47] arrrghhh, try alias lm='ls | more' [02:48] arrrghhh, heh heh i got all sorts of little scripts/aliases for tasks like that [02:48] nosrednaekim: stoppin at 30% [02:48] anyone know how to get "MCP51 High Definition Audio" working?? [02:48] flaccid, that's a pretty glib answer there areno install readmes with some of the files [02:48] yea, i've written some bash scripts to like remove all .torrent files from my desktop etc, but the whole piping output is a new concept to me. [02:48] BluesKaj: yeah thats the fault of the packager/maintainer. what are you trying to install? [02:48] ARTS is running, but no sound [02:48] arrrghhh, linux is like 'layers of legos' :) rember that. [02:48] Not Like an Onion.. :P [02:49] IAmWill- are you using digital output? [02:49] Dr_willis: certainly... i do like having choices, i just wish they included that little tid-bit in the ls man page... [02:49] wry: what the line its stalling on? pate it here [02:49] Dragnslcr, its a laptop [02:49] there might be a binary installer in there BluesKaj who knows === Arwen is now known as anon32 [02:49] arrrghhh, its not an ls feature, or issue at all. :) [02:49] IAmWill- check all of the channels in alsamixer and kmix, make sure none of them are muted [02:50] arrrghhh, should they also mention, sort, and sed, and awk, and tail, and........ :) [02:50] ticat85 is trying to install install Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz [02:50] BluesKaj, the Gamefu tar file includes a: CMakeLists.txt, Copying, Design, Install, Readme files [02:50] arrrghhh, Joys of Linux FUNdaMENTALS :) [02:50] blueskaj, as well as a Makefile.am [02:50] oh! cmake! [02:50] ticat85: what is that and where did you get it from [02:50] ticat85: read that "Install" file [02:51] ticat85: as advised read the install and readme files [02:51] flaccid, Gamefu-0.2.beta1-source.tar.gz [02:51] ok, ls lists files right? wouldn't you thinhk the ls man file would include directions on how to list files line-by-line or in a manner that you can flip through them? i can't find the words to describe that... [02:51] flaccid, will do... ill remain on the channel :) [02:51] i also have another question though involving mythTV [02:51] nosrednaekim: there aint no line. Just says 30% down the bottom. Nothing at all written above it [02:51] Dragnslcr, nothing is muted [02:51] wry: this is on the command line? [02:52] nosrednaekim: in adept [02:52] !ask | ticat85 [02:52] ticat85: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [02:52] wry: ah... kill adept and run "sudo apt-get update" from the command line. and paste the line it stalls on [02:52] well, i was trying to install FF 3 beta 2 , but it has no configure. make , or makeinstall files the readmes aren't at all helpfull...no instructins [02:52] flaccid, the install file seems to be saying something i was missing :( [02:53] cool ticat85. yeah INSTALL and README are pretty standard for instructions :) [02:53] haha, alright - in MythTV i am having trouble with my videocard [02:53] err [02:53] capture card [02:53] * flaccid dislikes no instructions [02:53] averTV model, fairly old [02:53] !capture [02:53] Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:53] nosrednaekim: k.. hang on [02:53] anyone know how I can make Konversation stop flashing my taskbar whenever someone says anything? [02:53] i think there is a support list somwhere [02:54] ticat85, you might consider TVtime [02:54] anon32: i think its in settings | configure notifications [02:54] BluesKaj, tried it - it only recognizes my USB webcam [02:54] !mythtv | ticat85 [02:54] ticat85: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV [02:55] ok ticat85 [02:55] anon32: in settings->configure konversation->behavior->general [02:55] ticat85: only thing else to check is google. your card is probably not supported perhaps [02:55] also check dmesg and logs to see how the system treats the device [02:55] mythtv is a bit daunting for ppl new to linux [02:55] hopefully mythtv is easier now that they have fixed the package [02:55] flaccid / BluesKaj, *sigh* I hate learning curves, kk ill check it out [02:55] nosrednaekim, not seeing it [02:56] it recognizes the device as dev/video1, my webcam as dev/video0 [02:56] anon32- it might be under Configure Notifications [02:56] so why TVtime only sees dev/video0 is beyond me [02:56] Dragnslcr, yeah, but according to that, all my notifications are off [02:57] BluesKaj, TVtime will not let me change my video source in the menu :( [02:57] anon32: must be somewhere else sorry. not sure where [02:58] anon32- I would guess that it's Configure Notifications -> New message arrived on a channel [02:58] composite 1 -2 etc ? [02:58] *shrug* ah well, now back to my framebuffer. Hmm. [02:58] see man tvtime to see how to specify a different device maybe it has a switch [02:58] anon32: its in there right whee I said.. [02:59] i think its tvtime --device=/dev/video1 [02:59] there might be a tvtime-configure binary as well [02:59] flaccid, ill try that right now [03:00] flaccid, it wooooork! success! [03:00] now only if my grammar worked :( [03:01] hehe sweet [03:01] flaccid, now why doesn't it work with mythTV? [03:01] not sure, i aint used that beast in ages [03:02] beast is a true term for it [03:02] flaccid, is there a way to permanently keep dev/video1 as the device for TVtime [03:02] 'night everyone [03:02] night mike [03:02] I restarted the program and its back as dev/video0 is the source [03:03] ticat85: yeah via configuration iirc === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [03:03] flaccid, say configawhatnow? [03:04] um it uses xml config files iirc. but i can't remember how to use them. google says lots.. [03:04] flaccid, is it a file I can find via dolphin? [03:04] ticat85: have a look in ~/.tvtime [03:05] flaccid, and that would be...? in the root somewhere [03:05] again, new, normally I'd be "PROGRAM FILES" but alas, no windows [03:06] um ~ stands for home [03:06] its a real location. not sure how to get to address bar in dolphin sorry.. [03:07] hmm [03:07] says "no such file or directory" [03:07] were you running tvtime under root or normal user [03:07] tvtime.xml? [03:07] yes [03:07] found it :) [03:07] i'd say so. still you probably havnt googled yet [03:08] nadda, been looking for the file... now that I have it [03:08] well i got a tvtuner inbuilt to this notebook so i'll install tvtime [03:09] open with Kate or Kwrite? [03:09] any text editor. not there is a bug and i just got it! ~/.local/share/application [03:09] oops [03:09] i mean look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612500 [03:10] might need to do a sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` ~/.tvtime [03:10] Hey I installed kdevelop 3.5 but I don't know how to make it, i want to program in perl and C/C++, can anyone help? [03:11] damn, i needed to edit as root [03:11] this root thing is really annoying :( [03:11] ticat85, untill it saves your backside [03:11] incorrect. read the above thread which makes the ownership of the config under root when it shouldn't [03:11] once you know how to use root/sudo and when not to use it etc. there is no frustration [03:12] i know sudo bash :) [03:12] If the file is not in your home dir.. you need to edit/change it as root.. :) [03:12] thats not a command you should run [03:12] sytem wide chabnges neesd root. [03:12] really? but its so handy [03:12] well i wouldn't say system wide, i'd say files that require root perms [03:12] using root when you dont need to or making root shells like that and foreggint them.. can cause problems [03:12] ticat85: its not handy. please read !root [03:12] sudo is good. sudo will save your posterior [03:13] sudo thank you dthacker [03:13] :) [03:13] why can't I just be root all the time? like administrator [03:13] :0 [03:13] ticat85: because that would be insecure [03:13] ticat85, why would you want or need to do that? [03:13] ticat85: Because one mistake and you system is gone [03:14] !sudo [03:14] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [03:14] hmm I'll take your multi-words for it :| [03:14] an application has a bug that removes files that should be protected for example [03:14] ticat85, :) good choice [03:14] flaccid, I've changed: