/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/24/#ubuntu+1.txt

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IdleOnewelcome04:18
n00biethanks a lot04:18
IdleOnenow listen04:18
n00bie"DO NOT RUN HARDY"04:18
n00biewell is this worst than sid?04:18
IdleOneleap frogging from dapper to hardy will not work04:18
IdleOneit will break everything04:19
IdleOnethat is why I suggested doing a fresh install04:19
n00biewhat is newer than drapper and earlier than hardy and at least kinda works?04:19
IdleOnedapper>edgy>feisty>gutsy>hardy04:19
IdleOnein that order04:20
HobbseeIdleOne: well, not break everything.  but very rocky04:20
Hobbseen00bie: gutsy is good.04:20
Hobbseen00bie: they all work04:20
IdleOnebut will take you hours to upgrade to each version so might as well do a fresh install if you want to run alpha04:20
Hobbseeyou don't want hardy, if you're new04:20
IdleOneHobbsee: he has been in sid for 5 years now :)04:20
IdleOneso he wants to jump from dapper to hardy04:21
n00bieso just change from dapper to gutsy in a single step, right? or is there an upgrade procedure_04:21
Hobbseeahh04:21
* Hobbsee sighs at people who don't read, nor seem to understand upgrade proceedures04:21
IdleOnen00bie: the procedure is one version at a time dont skip version04:21
n00bienot really, i just want something stable but nobody recommended anything, and the only word i hear now is "hardy" and now "not hardy"04:21
Hobbseen00bie: it's probably the equivalent of potato to sid.04:21
Hobbseen00bie: you heard from teh wrong people.  hardy is not stable04:22
Hobbseegutsy is stable.04:22
n00biegreat.04:22
AmaranthIdleOne: dapper to hardy will be supported04:22
HobbseeAmaranth: not yet, though04:22
n00biethanks, i'll follow the upgrade procedure one version at a time04:22
IdleOneAmaranth: but isnt yet04:22
Amaranthpeople have already started testing it and fixing problems04:22
IdleOnen00bie: good idea :)04:22
Amaranthit sort of works :P04:22
Amaranthn00bie: upgrade one version at a time from dapper to gutsy or hardy will take days04:23
Amaranthfaster to make a backup and do a clean install04:23
IdleOnethat is what I been saying04:23
IdleOnelol04:23
IdleOnewhy wont people just listen04:23
* IdleOne is trying to save n00bie from making a mistake and then being put off from Ubuntu. step 1: read topic. Step 2: !backup Step 3: fresh install04:25
n00biewell i have no meaningfull data, if this doesn't work i'll do the fresh install04:26
IdleOneyour call!04:26
n00bieand something else, i'm seeing a kernel image update, i hope it's 2.6.2204:26
IdleOne2.6.24 is hardy is using IIRC04:27
n00bienice04:27
n00biebut i guess gutsy would be at least 2.6.22 or 23?04:27
IdleOneI need Ibuprofen got a " Spent way to much money Xmas shopping" headache04:28
Amaranthgutsy is 2.6.2204:28
IdleOneodd # are testing right?04:29
kristjan_ehy,04:29
IdleOnehey04:29
kristjan_I love to hit "Enter" accidentally04:30
kristjan_is it possible to download kubuntu 8.04 with kde4?04:30
IdleOnekristjan_: dont think so but try asking in #kubuntu04:31
IdleOneyou can build kde4 yourself I believe04:31
kristjan_IdleOne: isn't this channel also for kubuntu next release?04:31
kristjan_IdleOne: kubuntu 8.04 is supposed to come on two different cd's right?04:32
IdleOnekristjan_: I have no idea04:32
HobbseeAmaranth: they've updated that04:40
Hobbseekristjan_: not currently04:41
kristjan_Hobbsee: do you know then? beta1? :-)04:41
Hobbseekristjan_: sometime after kde4 is released.04:41
Hobbseekristjan_: it'll be announced on kubuntu.org04:42
* Hobbsee is not aware of when it will happen - still needs some bugs solved first04:42
HobbseeIdleOne: see http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/minutes/04:42
IdleOnesure thing04:43
* Hobbsee ponders writing an email sometimes on what it all means in laymans terms04:44
* Hobbsee sees the kubuntu-devel mialing list is bikeshedding, again04:44
IdleOneseems like canonical is slowly cutting back support to versions other the Ubuntu04:48
IdleOnes/the/then04:48
Hobbseeit never supported xubuntu anywa04:49
Hobbseey04:49
Hobbseeand adding more versions, you'll note04:49
IdleOneI dont use kde but I would think it would make more sense to focus on one CD. KDE4 CD04:49
Hobbseethere are reasons nto to do that04:50
IdleOnehaving the devs working on kde3 and kde4 spreads them thin04:50
Hobbseewho says they'd do much to kde3?04:50
kristjan_IdleOne: how many kubuntu devs are there anyways?04:50
Hobbseenot enough04:50
IdleOneprobably more then Ubuntu devs04:50
kristjan_one, two?04:51
HobbseeIdleOne: uh, no04:51
kristjan_(devs who get paid by canonical)04:51
Hobbseeone who gets paid by canonical, and the artwork guy, who does it for kubuntu/ubuntu04:51
IdleOnelike I said I dont use kde so I cant wax on the subject04:51
kristjan_Hobbsee: I could never have guessed that the same person is behind both default looks04:53
Hobbseewell, kubuntu is a vote04:55
dmbis firefox 3 beta or final going to be included in hardy?04:57
Amaranthkristjan_: actually he isn't04:58
Amaranthkristjan_: He did the Kubuntu stuff then got hired by Canonical to do artwork, afaik04:58
AmaranthWe haven't had an Ubuntu release with him doing artwork yet04:59
jack_hello05:33
jack_im interested in the new beta05:33
jack_anyone trying it out?05:33
DarkMageZhardy hit beta?05:34
Ash_Heronupdating to alpha 2 now 19 mins remaining :)05:34
DarkMageZi'm not having any critical issues (that are regressions vs gutsy)05:34
jack_i have gutsy and feisty in a dual boot laptop setup05:37
jack_just playing around, trying to figure things out05:37
jack_the x in gutsy didnt want to play well....so I tried ultimate 1.05:38
Ash_Heroni have gutsy, slackware and xp for games :)05:38
jack_ultimate 1.505:38
jack_sry05:38
jack_not having much luck with it either, but i do like the preinstalled apps05:38
jack_which one do you like best ash?05:39
Ash_Herongutsy05:39
Ash_Heronbut slackware for speed05:40
Ash_Heronyou?05:40
jack_im real new to all of it05:40
Ash_Heron:)05:40
Ash_Heronhave fun :P05:40
jack_not really informed enough to make an opinion worth a damn05:40
jack_:)05:40
Ash_HeronLOL05:40
Ash_Heronoops caps :)05:40
jack_i just get sick of orpahned dialog boxes05:40
Ash_Heronhehe05:41
jack_gui opps all the time05:41
Ash_Heronnasty05:41
jack_and this is with gnome and a centrino laptop05:41
jack_kinda standard hardware05:41
Ash_Heronyeah strange same after multiple reinstalls?05:41
Ash_Heronreformats*05:41
jack_naw, they are all installed on different partitions05:42
jack_I got Xp on here too, btw05:42
Ash_Heron:)05:42
jack_i think ubuntu with wine can solve all of my computer needs05:42
Ash_Heroni like xp tweaked to the max with just firewall its not bad but effort to maintain05:42
Ash_Heron:)05:42
jack_is there a live cd for the beta build?05:43
jack_i might try that out too05:43
jack_os shopping is fun05:43
jack_:)05:43
Ash_Heronlooks like im gunna boot into hardy heron any minute yeah its a alpha build tho05:43
jack_alpha, my bad05:44
Ash_Heron:)05:44
jack_aplah, so MS final release05:44
Ash_Heronlol05:44
jack_been testing their crap for years05:44
Ash_Heronservice pack 4 lol05:45
jack_lol05:45
Ash_Heron:P05:45
jack_"this time we promise its almost right"05:45
Ash_Heronhehe05:45
jack_then days later...oops05:45
jack_we left open ports05:45
jack_or gave keys to nsa05:45
jack_our bad05:45
Ash_Heronlol05:45
jack_we will fix in sp 505:45
jack_i just got sick of all the viruses and bullshit05:46
jack_too much to handle05:46
IdleOnejack_: I feel your pain but please watch language :)05:46
jack_and foss is the honest way to go05:46
jack_eggshells, indeed05:46
jack_tiptoe05:46
Ash_Heronyeah viruses are annoying plus i have antivirus software and its resource hog05:47
Ash_Heronhate*05:47
jack_you know I did an win 98 install about a year ago, on a p4 box,...was smoking fast05:47
jack_couldnt believe it05:47
Ash_Heronyeah i bet i was going to try that on my p4 have disk somewhere and me lol05:48
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Ash_Heronmight have to do it for games better than xp05:48
Ash_Heronahh brb sys restart05:48
jack_for christmas, i installed edubuntu on a p4 for a 4 year old blonde girl05:48
jack_my niece05:48
jack_grabbed all the games for it05:49
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jack_i just did a default and set up automatic dhcp on the network05:50
jack_installed flash for firefox and the basic stuff05:50
jack_i dont know if its going to hit a network, but its something she can use05:50
jack_that doesnt have hanna montana on it...:)05:50
compwiz18hey anyone have fluid rev 7?05:57
PepperPad4How do I get Hardy to boot into a non-graphical (working) CLI ?05:59
PepperPad4I am experiencing Hardy video breakage.06:00
cps1966!wifi06:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:00
DarkMageZPepperPad4, in grub there should be a second option for the 2.6.24 kernel. fallback or something06:01
PepperPad4Yes, thanks. I already tried that. It boots into a flickering screen.06:01
PepperPad4Is there a more failsafe failsafe ?06:02
DarkMageZthere's a recovery mode on the alternative cd which will allow you to attempt to fix the system06:02
DarkMageZtho that failsafe shouldn't have failed if it was xorg breakage06:03
PepperPad4Oh, thanks! I'll try that. The funny thing is that the Xubuntu bootup splash (with the progress indicator) works fine.06:03
PepperPad4I am trying the rescue mode on the alternative install cd06:09
PepperPad4I'm using the Rescue mode now .... Got a bterm shell  open. Now how do I fix the X server configuration ?06:15
cps1966do i need madwifi to set up atheros ar5006eg06:15
PepperPad4dpkg-reconfigure and xorgcfg don't work.06:15
cps1966maybe its not installed completely06:17
cps1966kde did same thing06:17
cps1966does it let you login06:18
kristjan_dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver - not xorgcfg06:18
PepperPad4yes, that is what I tried. dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ... bterm does not allow it.06:18
kristjan_"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ... actually06:19
PepperPad4oh yeah, thanks.. tried that too.. no dice.06:19
PepperPad4says "Unknown TErminal Bterm"06:20
PepperPad4Check the TERM envirnoment variable06:20
cps1966what happens when it boots on it own06:20
PepperPad4When it boots on its own, the screen goes into a flickering mode.06:21
PepperPad4Is there another way to fix the graphics config ?06:21
cps1966can you get terminal by hitting ctrl alt f106:21
PepperPad4When I hit ctrl alt F1 (during bootup) I get another useless flickering screen.06:22
cps1966then set wasn't successful06:23
cps1966use the daily build06:24
PepperPad4I am using HH alpha 2.06:25
PepperPad4I was hoping that HH a2 could drive my Geode LX display hardware (that mainstreamed into kernel 2.6.24)06:26
cps1966yeah i know thats why i said to get daily build06:26
PepperPad4How do I get a daily build ?06:26
cps1966you want xubuntu06:26
PepperPad4yeah06:26
cps1966is that like goubuntu06:28
PepperPad4I don't know if they are similar.06:28
PepperPad4How do I get a daily build ?06:30
PepperPad4Thanks, I found it.06:31
cps1966well not for xubuntu06:31
PepperPad4It's OK, regular Ubuntu is fine for now.06:31
cps1966http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/06:34
PepperPad4Thank you!06:34
PepperPad4Does it have a changelog ?06:34
PepperPad4Should I log a bug ?06:34
cps1966it has a few things missing but you can get it installed enough to do final install with apt06:34
PepperPad4Oh, to get apt working, I will need to get the nic working first.06:36
cps1966what one06:36
PepperPad4checking the maker06:37
cps1966i have kubuntu installed on eee pc06:38
PepperPad4Oh! You are using the eee ?06:38
PepperPad4Really cool!06:38
PepperPad4I am using the PepperPad 306:38
cps1966except for wireless is not working06:38
PepperPad4Oh... is it a problem in the driver or the config ?06:39
cps1966not sure06:39
cps1966module is loaded nut it cant find debice06:39
cps1966good thing it has lan also06:40
PepperPad4Oh, that's good... Glad you got it working.06:40
PepperPad4My Pepper Pad uses an Atheros chip for Wifi06:40
cps1966but i need wireless06:41
PepperPad4Yeah, wireless is a must!06:41
cps1966yeah so deos this06:41
cps1966atheros ar5006eg  that one06:41
PepperPad4I wonder if it's the same as mine06:42
cps1966lspci and see if yours is same thing06:42
PepperPad4THanks... lspci says  Atheros AR2413 802.11bg06:43
cps1966a bit differnent then06:44
PepperPad4How can I configure it to work ?06:44
cps1966does it give you networking option at setup06:45
PepperPad4yeah, but it didn't find my WiFi AP06:45
cps1966is it on in bios06:45
PepperPad4Yes. And it worked fine in Feisty Fawn.06:46
cps1966what about gutsy06:46
PepperPad4I never got Gutsy to boot graphically, so I couldn't even test it.06:47
cps1966even final release06:47
PepperPad4Yes, even the final release. Xorg problems.06:47
cps1966can you tell it to use vesa at boot setup06:48
PepperPad4Oh, where is that setting ?06:50
cps1966well you hit    one of those to get options06:50
PepperPad4when booting the regular liveCD, right ?06:51
cps1966f1 f2 or f306:51
cps1966use the alternet06:51
PepperPad4let me boot that one up06:53
PepperPad4before the install, or after ?06:54
cps1966before06:54
PepperPad4There's an option to set the mode06:55
PepperPad4To set the resolution06:55
PepperPad4I don't know.. is there a cheat code for vesa ?06:55
cps1966yes06:55
PepperPad4Will the resolution (I choose) stick after installation ?06:56
cps1966should06:56
PepperPad4So would I be better off trying this with Gutsy or with HH daily build ?06:57
cps1966heh shouldn't matter06:58
PepperPad4Ok, I will try HH..06:58
PepperPad4Maybe I should just install a command-line system and start from there ?06:59
PepperPad4Then at least I know the graphics won't fail.06:59
PepperPad4What do you think ?07:00
cps1966could07:02
cps1966its not easy though07:02
PepperPad4HH a2 didn't detect my Atheros AR2413 802.11bg device... That device worked fine in Feisty Fawn.07:05
PepperPad4Funny.07:05
cps1966i think eee pc is a better deal07:06
PepperPad4I agree, the eee is better.07:07
cps1966lots cheaper too07:07
PepperPad4I would buy an eee tablet device.07:07
PepperPad4I like the touch screen feature.07:08
PepperPad4For drawing.07:08
PepperPad4I hope ASUS can figure out some way to integrate a touch screen (that is not cursed by fragility)07:08
PepperPad4eee is superior in almost every other respect.07:09
cps1966i just cant stand for xandros not having the apps i use daily07:09
PepperPad4Is that why you moved to Ubuntu ?07:10
cps1966i had mandriva cooker on it earlier today seemed to work ok07:10
PepperPad4I sure hope you get further than I have with this Pepper Pad.07:11
cps1966just testing what it will do07:11
PepperPad4Are you leaning towards Mandriva or Ubuntu ?07:12
cps1966should try fedora on it next07:12
PepperPad4Great idea.07:13
cps1966going to try stable release though but not sure it will have drivers07:13
PepperPad4Linux drivers have got to be the biggest nightmare.07:14
cps1966mandriva 2008 dont because kernel is to old07:14
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cps1966not as bad as xp07:17
cps1966had that on it half the stuff didn't work07:17
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PepperPad4cps1966:  did you try eeeXubuntu ?07:22
cps1966no07:23
PepperPad4http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home07:23
PepperPad4It's got wireless working.07:24
cps1966sure wish they would leave off OOo07:28
PepperPad4haha, yeah ... that would make the ISO smaller, huh?07:29
cps1966yup dont use it so why install it07:30
cps1966200 MB or more07:30
PepperPad4I think it's possible to make such a derivative... There's a package called Ubuntu construction kit... I think07:31
PepperPad4Sorry.... it's Ubuntu Customization Kit07:32
PepperPad4In theory, that would let people make their own Ubuntu customizations.07:33
PepperPad4I am going to play around with that if I ever get Ubuntu working on my Pepper Pad 3.07:33
cps1966dsl has that07:34
cps1966but kernel is to old to find flash drive07:34
PepperPad4Oh yeah... I love DSL... but its old Kernel!07:35
cps19662 4 3507:35
PepperPad4Yeah... I am not sure why DSL keeps that old kernel07:36
cps1966size07:36
cps19662 6 kernels are very big07:36
PepperPad4What a pity...07:37
PepperPad4DSL takes up ~16 MB of RAM... How much larger would it be with a 2.6 kernel, I wonder ?07:37
cps196664 or more07:37
PepperPad4Wow! Really ? I knew Linux was monolithic, but 64MB just screams "BLOAT"07:38
cps1966well you thing vista is better07:39
PepperPad4Haha... you are right about that.07:40
cps1966takes 16 GB for vista and office 200707:40
PepperPad4Oh that's just sad.07:41
cps1966yeah tell me about it07:42
cps1966take 5 minutes to boot07:42
cps1966on a 1.5 ghz lappy07:42
PepperPad4Seagate and Samsung will have to thank Microsoft for selling bigger hard drives, more memory chips.07:44
PepperPad4Those of us who remember the days of structured programming are especially aware of just how bloated programs have become.07:45
cps1966all the option suck07:46
PepperPad4I guess RAM is just too cheap.07:47
cps1966i dunno why someone would pay for vista problems07:50
PepperPad4Most people want Microsoft to do everything for them.07:51
cps1966yeah till it screws up07:52
PepperPad4Yeah, then they'll question if M$ really was a good choice.07:54
cps1966i wouldn't trust it with my files anymore have used it since 9907:55
cps1966have not07:55
PepperPad4Monopolies can't be trusted... ultimately they will screw up.07:56
cps1966well they dug their own grave07:57
PepperPad4We'll see how elastic the demand is for Windows.. .and its office apps.07:57
PepperPad4M$ is relying on the elasticity of demand.07:58
PepperPad4Basically, users have to buy a new computer to run Vista.07:58
cps1966its a shame that lots of then you cant buy without os07:59
PepperPad4Gates is right. The computer is an extension of the nervous system. People need that nervous system to work as they anticipate, and it's very painful for them to switch.08:00
cps1966yeah but it reduces stress when you do08:01
cps1966thats the big killer08:01
PepperPad4I agree, I would rather understand how my computer works so I can fix it.08:02
PepperPad4It's similar to cars, I guess.08:02
cps1966i used to work on them at work but i retired in 200308:02
PepperPad4Congratulations, and have a great retirement.08:03
cps1966i retired early 55 and xp didn't mix08:04
PepperPad4Great, now you can pursue something new.08:04
cps1966na just work at home now08:04
PepperPad4What kind of work are you doing at home?08:05
cps1966fixing computers08:05
cps1966installing xp instead of vista08:05
cps1966hard to get drivers for some of them though08:06
PepperPad4Installed Hardy Heron as a command-line system... display still doesn't work... can't believe it.08:08
cps1966is module loaded for video08:09
cps1966lsmod08:09
PepperPad4I can't do an lsmod... the screen is flickering.08:09
PepperPad4I'm going to try to log in and do a dpkg-reconfigure08:10
cps1966oh crap08:10
PepperPad4I'm at my wit's end with this.08:11
PepperPad4Something changed in the way Ubuntu handles video in Gutsy/Hardy.08:11
cps1966xorg 7.208:12
PepperPad4Yeah, Xorg 7.2 ... but it should at least have a failsafe.08:12
PepperPad4I can't even get a failsafe mode.08:12
PepperPad4Anyways, good luck to you.08:13
cps1966yeah you too08:13
PepperPad4Have fun with that eee!08:14
cps1966hehe well if worse comes to worse i can put xandors back08:14
PepperPad4I an optimistic more eee-centric distributions will crop up.08:15
cps1966just ran out of disk space need to m,ove some stuff08:16
PepperPad4oh, bummer08:16
cps1966yeah used up 110 GB home dir08:17
cps1966lots of movies08:17
PepperPad4Haha... I got to go08:18
PepperPad4Have fun with that eee08:18
PepperPad4Bye08:19
cps1966i have 1.9 TB of space so it wont be to hard to find a hole to put some in08:19
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pwnguinhey, is it just me or are yahoo! games not working?08:54
pvandewyngaerdeit is just you not working09:02
pvandewyngaerde(if you are playing)09:02
pwnguinthat was a terrible pun09:23
optxHi ! Hardy doesnt find my nvidia do i have to install them by myself ?09:33
pvandewyngaerderestricted manager09:38
optxhi pvandewyngaerde sorry that was my first idea but i dont find it09:49
optxit is under SYSTEM right ?09:49
pvandewyngaerdeor just start   restricted-manager10:10
pvandewyngaerdeim on kubuntu its called restricted-manager-kde here10:10
ubuhi !10:50
ubuim from germnay and i have to change everytime i lock in the language to german. how can i save that ?10:51
Tomcat_ubu: Sounds like a bug.10:51
ubushould i install some language packs from synaptic ?10:52
ubulol sysnaptic says de is installed ..10:53
pvandewyngaerdelanguage pack de10:53
ubulanguage pack de and language pack de base is installed in synaptic.. maby reinstall ?10:54
cps1966or reconfigure -a10:54
ubuwhats weird too, when i open the 'Language and location' i see nothing at all10:56
cps1966have you updated sources10:57
cps1966somethings are missing in alpha 210:59
cps1966stupid OOo has to be installed on everything11:05
cps1966waste of good space11:05
cps1966watse of time also11:06
Skiessihttp://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html  I want to try this. How do I do it?11:10
cps1966get a sound card and speakers it simpler11:14
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ArtimusCould someone check their Hardy installation and see if /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/kde-essential.menu exists or is even a symlink?16:19
PiciArtimus: I dont see it here.  I dont have kde4 installed though, if that makes any difference.16:21
ArtimusNo, this is KDE316:22
ArtimusFun little bug with a fresh Hardy Alpha 216:22
ArtimusKcontrol is empty, all of the little applets are thrown in Lost+Found16:22
ArtimusIn the past, it was caused by a missing kde-essential.menu.  I don't even have that in a stock Hardy install.16:23
PiciThats not good. Could be a harddrive issue.16:23
ArtimusI kind of doubt it16:23
ArtimusThis is vmware, fresh install :P16:23
ArtimusI'm using an OS in development and youi blame my harddrive...16:23
Picilost+found is for filesystem issues...16:24
ArtimusNo...16:24
ArtimusAs in Lost and Found on the KDE menu16:24
ArtimusKDE has apps and doesn't know where to put them in the menu's16:24
PiciOh... I thought you meant /lost+found16:24
Artimusno...16:24
PiciI dont use KDE, but I like some of the programs it comes it.16:25
ArtimusI'll upload a screenshot, it's kind of funny...16:27
Artimushttp://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6883/lostandfoundou3.png16:28
Artimus"oops"16:28
Picioops16:29
Artimusyeah16:30
PiciAny bugs filed about it?16:30
ArtimusThere's four, but these were back in the Feisty era...16:30
PiciHrm.16:31
ArtimusShould I just file a new one and then reference the other ones?16:31
ArtimusSince none of these are marked as being in Hardy, and most were fixed in the old releases...16:32
ArtimusBug report filed, they can always mark it as a duplicate...16:40
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crimsun2.6.24-rc6-git2 fixes the b43 mungage, yay.18:04
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tilgovianyone have kde4 on hardy?18:41
TimSWill 7.04 will be KDE4 and not LTS?18:42
TimS8.04*18:42
Laser87probably18:43
PiciThats the plan right now.18:43
TimSHmm18:43
PiciYeah, its kind of weird.18:43
TimSIt would be nice if they offered Kubuntu LTS and K4ubuntu18:44
TimSI started with the last LTS release, and that was the most stable (for me) release18:44
Laser87I don't think that anybody in this channel needs LTS ^^18:44
TimSTrue true :P18:45
TimSBut its not for us :P18:45
tilgoviCan anyone help me get kde4 running?  I'm getting dependency conflicts with libgif and libungif18:46
Laser87That's it - LTS has to be stable18:46
TimSI relise that, and KDE4 wont be18:46
TimSBut its been a while since the last LTS18:46
PiciAlmost 2 years18:47
TimSHow long are they supported for 18 months?18:47
Laser87I guess, Canonical wants KDE 4 and it would be to much work for 3.5, 4 and perhaps 4.518:47
Laser87TimS: 3 years18:48
TimSOh cool18:48
Laser87server 5 years18:48
Pici!lts18:48
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.18:48
tilgovi!kde418:49
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php18:49
iamalsotimHow can I disable EDID detection in X?21:04
pwnguinhmm. i dont recall setting a blue theme21:49
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CyclonutHows the Hardy hangin?22:46
Dr_willisLural and Hardy!22:48
Dr_willis:)22:48
Dr_willisNo Idea really. Im not brave enough to beta test it.22:48
crdlbs/beta/alpha/ :)22:52
Dr_willisgamma, delta, omega,22:55
Dr_willisYou dont really hear people say 'im an alpha tester'22:56
Dr_willis Is that like an Alpha-Male? or Alpha-Geek?22:56
tumbleweed__o snap22:56
crdlbbecause there's no such thing really :)22:57
crdlban alpha is too unfinished for traditional "testing"22:57
tumbleweed__not rly22:57
Dr_willisI want to be a Zeta-tester22:57
Dr_willis:P22:57
tumbleweed__I want to be a your mom tester22:57
* Dr_willis wants to be an Airborn ranger...22:58
Dr_willisBut i always die in the Paratrooper testng in AMericas Armies.22:58
Dr_willis:)22:58
tumbleweed__o22:58

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