[00:22]  * kitofhawaii sends a hawaiian happy holidays and a merry christmas to all the ops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_BGqgbxdc and a huge mahalo for your help :)
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Aloha Kit...
[00:28] <Amaranth> GreetingKit
[00:29] <jdong> Amaranth: is that the new GDM backend in Fedora 9?
[00:29] <Amaranth> haha
[00:30] <jdong> :D
[00:30] <Amaranth> no, that's glib+dbus+consolekit :P
[00:30] <Amaranth> everything has to use dbus
[00:52] <jrattner1> Question: I'm on port 8001, and I still can't get into #ubuntu because of the "router bug"
[00:53] <nalioth> jrattner1: stand by
[00:53] <jrattner1> nalioth, thank you
[00:53] <jrattner1> ?
[00:54] <nalioth> using your usual nick would be less confusing (no bans under jrattner1 there)
[00:54] <jrattner1> what do you mean?
[00:54] <jrattner1> this is my usual nick
[00:54] <LjL> nalioth: which is why there was a * in the ban. let me check the tracker.
[00:54] <jrattner1> oh...thanks
[00:54] <nalioth> ok, then you were using another variant that got banned, jrattner1
[00:54] <nalioth> either way, the ban is removed
[00:55] <nalioth> thanks for putting up with us
[00:55] <jrattner1> thank you
[00:55] <jrattner1> hehe
[03:35] <ardchoille> How do I know when I have access to bantracker?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> when @login returns something you can access
[03:36] <ardchoille> ok
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> hello
[05:03] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (Acetylcholine)
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> why did i end up here
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> lol
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> i am trying to get to #Ubuntu
[05:03] <ubotu> HardDisk called the ops in #ubuntu (Acetylcholine)
[05:03] <crdlb> NeoGeo64: change your ident
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> oh
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> lol
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> why
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> i love that word
[05:03] <NeoGeo64> thats what i named my box
[05:04] <NeoGeo64> tony@****
[05:04] <NeoGeo64> ubuntu runs nice on my quad core
[05:04] <nalioth> acetylcholine took the 11 o'clock K train
[05:05] <nalioth> aha
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> ok
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> heh
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> i had to enable port fwdimng
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> to 113
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> now it shows my ident
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> instead of email
[05:14] <nalioth> NeoGeo64: no
[05:15] <nalioth> NeoGeo64: you had a rather nasty ident earlier
[05:24] <AfterDeath> nalioth: yes, but since he turned on port forwarding freenode saw his identd so his ident changed
[06:47] <Myrtti> I'm getting a funny feeling about kahrytan again
[06:48] <ompaul> it is about to happen
[06:49] <Myrtti> /me puts her emp cannon to the recharging dock
[06:51] <ompaul> fire at will
[07:21] <Gary> kahrytans LUG partner is nice though
[07:21] <ompaul> Gary, now now it is before 7:30 am
[07:22] <ompaul> or was that the nine pm watershed
[07:22] <ompaul> who knows
[07:22] <Gary> lol
[07:22] <Gary> I dunno what he looks like, but he is nice and chatty and helpful, and scared kahrytan
[07:23] <ompaul> good
[07:23] <ompaul> a wake up call is needed by some people now and again
[07:23]  * ompaul prepares to head for work
[07:24] <ompaul> back in a few
[07:36] <tomaw> work on christmas eve?  poor you.
[07:37] <Gary> it's like "a christmas carol" all over again
[07:38] <ompaul> hehe
[07:39] <ompaul> Gary, topothemornintoya
[07:39] <ompaul> :)
[10:48] <ubotu> Fujitsu called the ops in #ubuntu (MangoMentor_)
[12:17] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, rodserling said: !hate is mine
[13:01] <drarem> it seems I am banned from #ubuntu?
[13:02] <Pici> drarem: Were you forwarded to another channel?
[13:02] <drarem> i was flake anonymous,  tried /join #ubuntu, then registered as me and tried again, says i'm banned
[13:02] <Pici> drarem: actually, nevermind, hold hon.
[13:02] <Pici> er, on.
[13:04] <Pici> drarem: You came into the channel talking about usb switches and was told that it was offtopic
[13:04] <Pici> Do you remember that?
[13:04] <drarem> right, and I went to a hardware channel
[13:05] <Pici> Right, I just want you to understand that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu questions only, not hardware support.
[13:05] <Pici> Okay?
[13:05] <drarem> oh yea, I smarted off and just said that it was related to ubuntu cause that's what i was for.. yes I understand
[13:06] <Pici> drarem: Okay, you're all set.
[13:06] <drarem> thanks
[13:17] <rufus> why am i banned in #ubuntu?
[13:19] <jussi01> rufus: please be patient - someone will be along to help soon - its almost christmas and not many people are around.
[13:19]  * jussi01 elbows Pici 
[13:23] <rufus> soon? i have a problem
[13:29]  * Pici arrives
[13:29] <Pici> rufus: let me take a look at the logs, hold on please.
[13:31] <rangerguy39> my nick was rangerguy39 when i was banned
[13:32] <Pici> So.. you know why you were banned?
[13:32] <rangerguy39> no
[13:33] <Pici> Okay, sorry for the wait, the one log wasn't active when you were banned, checking another source
[13:38] <rangerguy39> okay
[13:39] <Pici> hm..  I see the ban... but not a reason why.
[13:39] <Pici> LjL: ping.
[13:42] <rangerguy39> so, will i be unbanned?
[13:42] <Pici> rangerguy39: not until I can talk with the op that banned you, sorry.
[14:01] <rangerguy39> finished?
[14:03] <Pici> rangerguy39: Most likely away due to holiday stuff...
[14:03] <rangerguy39> okay, thanks anyway
[14:03] <Pici> rangerguy39: But since I dont see anything in the log, I will at least temporarily unban you.
[14:04] <Pici> rangerguy39: And then speak to the op about it...
[14:06] <rangerguy39> which op
[14:06] <Pici> rangerguy39: LjL
[14:06] <rangerguy39> okay, thanks
[14:14] <Myrtti> Hyvää joulua!
[14:15] <Pici> Feliz Navidad?
[14:15] <psleigha2> oh me and my naughty nickspam
[14:19] <LjL> !test | ljl
[14:20] <Pici> LjL: Afternoon, have a few?
[14:20] <LjL> rangerguy39: yesterday you had a script that replied to ! commands. it seems to be turned off now - make sure it remains so
[14:20] <LjL> Pici: yeah
[14:20] <LjL> god jul to you too
[14:20] <Pici> Oh, was going to ask you about that, I didnt see anything important in my logs, and ubotu didnt catch it.
[14:20] <LjL> Pici: yeah, i mentioned it in here, but the bantracker missed it
[14:21] <Pici> Ah.
[14:21] <LjL> anyone wants to hear me sing in swedish? :P i decided to be annoying to my neighbors today.
[14:22] <LjL> no attack yesterday night... losers, i've stayed awake waiting for them and they didn't come
[14:27] <Gary> aww poor LjL
[14:28] <Myrtti> morsgrisar är vi allihopa, allihopa, allihopa...
[14:29] <Myrtti> morsgrisar är vi allihopa, hopa! du med och jag med, du med och jaaaaggg med
[14:29] <LjL> Myrtti: is that what you sing in your ASL channels?
[14:30] <Myrtti> nå men ju de döva måste ju...
[14:31] <Myrtti> JULSKINKA!
[14:31] <Pici> takk
[14:31] <Myrtti> -->
[14:31] <LjL> jultroll, mmm
[14:35] <LjL> hey i was thinking
[14:35] <LjL> (since i need some new bot to write)
[14:35] <LjL> you know when people ask "what's the best player" etc, and we give !best, but they insist they want opinion?
[14:35] <Pici> I dont get it either.
[14:35] <LjL> could put a bot in #ubuntu-trivia (which is mostly unused now i think) to make polls about software categories
[14:36] <LjL> what's the best player? everyone gives their best, etc
[14:36] <LjL> then you can ask for the statistics on things
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> That would be cool
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ljl
[14:36] <LjL> yarr
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Argh.. throw some beer gut into it
[14:37] <Pici> I think that whatever comes out of it should be used in a supybot plugin though.
[14:37] <LjL> Pici: ahahah. ah.
[14:37] <LjL> me writing python
[14:37] <Pici> LjL: I'll write it then, just get the data.
[14:38] <LjL> Pici: what data? the data will be given by the people who feel like shouting about their favorite X. bot just needs to have a list of valid ubuntu packages
[14:38]  * Pici thinks
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Would there be a way to keep people from doubling up on their favorite?  ONe vote per registered nick or anything like that
[14:39] <LjL> Pici: commands could be like this
[14:39] <Pici> !best irc xchat
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about best irc xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <LjL> !start poll about best <category>
[14:39] <LjL> then for 15 minutes, people can just type "amarok", "rhythmbox", etc
[14:39] <LjL> or
[14:39] <LjL> !best <category> is <package>
[14:40] <LjL> to give a single opinion without actually making a poll
[14:40] <Pici> I'll remember that LjL
[14:40] <LjL> and then !best <category> would give: "The BEST! <category> is <package>, with <x> votes (<y>%). Then come in order: ..."
[14:41] <Pici> I think its a great diea
[14:41] <Pici> idea (/me fixes fingers)
[14:42] <LjL> Pici: i'm even thinking it could be useful. we'd get nice lists of software packages for various think, without making any effort to research them ourselves. would make writing bot factoids much easier :)
[14:42] <LjL> s/think/things/
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> [06:41] <Phobos> deadlock, rm -R /*   in ubuntu
[14:43] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, was banned already
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, a little slow yet this am
[14:43]  * Pici gives Jack_Sparrow glasses
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> and more coffee
[14:44]  * Gary steals jacks coffee
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:44] <LjL> Pici: http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Poll.html
[14:44] <LjL> not quite what i had in mind though
[14:45] <Pici> Its not extremely complicated anyway.
[14:45] <LjL> if one knows supybot, it should be trivial
[14:45] <Pici> Hah.
[14:46] <Pici> Funny that you word it like that.
[14:46] <Pici> I wrote a trivia bot plugin for supybot called Trivial.
[14:46] <LjL> Pici: that isn't what ran in -trivia though?
[14:46] <Pici> LjL: Nope.
[14:48] <LjL> Pici: if you write that i suggest you don't waste much time trying to interface to APT like ubotu does (and does pretty slowly). just dump the entire APT package list to a text file and use it or put it in sqlite...
[14:49] <Pici> Agreed.
[14:50]  * Pici cowers in fear
[14:50] <LongXmasStick> ARRR!
[14:51]  * LjL doesn't fear
[14:51] <Pici> Fear is the mindkiller?
[14:51] <LjL> no, fear is what makes the -ot people behave
[14:52] <LjL> and i don't behave
[14:54] <Gary> I want a pony!!!1!
[14:54] <LjL> !pony | Gary
[14:54] <ubotu> Gary: Tomorrow. Some patience, gee.
[14:54] <Gary> lol
[14:54] <Gary> who changed it :-)  well done
[14:55] <LjL> i, just now
[14:55] <Gary> excellent
[15:07] <PinkPony> \o/
[15:08] <Hobbsee> haha :)
[15:08] <Pici> Although... I didnt know that ponies could do that with their... arms(?)
[15:08] <PinkPony> I wanna pony
[15:09] <Hobbsee> @pony
[15:09] <Pici> !pony
[15:09] <ubotu> Tomorrow. Some patience, gee.
[15:09] <PinkPony> heeee
[15:09] <Hobbsee> hah
[15:09] <Hobbsee> !-pony
[15:09] <ubotu> pony has no aliases - added by LjL on 2007-12-24 15:54:39
[15:09]  * Hobbsee --> bed
[15:09] <Pici> bye.. okay.
[15:09] <PinkPony> *bwurps*
[15:10]  * Pici waves to GoldenPony 
[15:10] <PinkPony> ham, carrot and gabbage casserole and salt-cured salmon on rye bread
[15:10] <PinkPony> I'm stuffed
[15:11] <ardchoille> You're stuffed and you made the rest of us hungry
[15:11] <PinkPony> :-P
[15:11] <Pici> gabbage? Sounds like how someone from long island, NY would say garbage.
[15:11] <PinkPony> @now Helsinki
[15:11] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: December 24 2007, 17:11:24 - Next meeting: Edubuntu meeting in 8 days
[15:12] <Pici> hm.
[15:12] <PinkPony> Pici: I don't like Finnish Christmas casseroles that much, so they've got cabbage for me
[15:12] <PinkPony> with minced meat and carrot
[15:13] <Pici> Sounds good, I guess.  I'm not a big fan of cabbage though.
[15:13] <Pici> deuryte: can we help you?
[15:14] <deuryte> maybe, every time I try to get into kubuntu-offtopic,  I end up here ??
[15:14] <Pici> deuryte: let me take a look, hold on.
[15:14] <deuryte> 4
[15:21] <Pici> deuryte: I see the bans... let me see if there is a Kubuntu operator around.
[15:21] <deuryte> 4
[15:21] <Pici> 4?
[15:22] <Pici> Tm_T: ping.
[15:23] <nalioth> Pici: there usually is one around
[15:23]  * Pici wanders into the Kubuntu channels
[15:23] <nalioth> Pici: what did you need?
[15:24] <Pici> nalioth: It was to take a look at deuryte's bans
[15:24] <nalioth> did you see one?
[15:24] <Pici> But since he left, I really dont care anymore.  He seems a bit of a troll.
[15:24] <Pici> Yes. two.
[15:24] <nalioth> that is why he's forwarded here, i expect
[15:57] <Pici> LjL: Thanks.
[16:19] <ubotu> In ubotu, underdaw1 said: !hamachi is Gutsy has issues with hamachi-init but if you go to the Synaptic package manager and search for "upx" and install both packages, you will be able to proceed and use hamachi
[16:28] <ubotu> In ubotu, underdaw1 said: !hamachi is Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) has a known issue with Hamachi where nothing happens after you input hamachi-init in the console.  You need to install upx and follow the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3414411
[16:28]  * Pici wonders if a factoid is needed for that.
[16:30] <Pici> Howdy ompaul
[16:30] <ompaul> hi
[16:30] <ompaul> !pici
[16:30] <ubotu> pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Help!
[16:31] <ompaul> Pici, having missed totally what you are asking, could you repeat it please
[16:31] <Pici> 11:28:20 <ubotu> In ubotu, underdaw1 said: !hamachi is Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) has a known issue with Hamachi where nothing happens after you input hamachi-init in the console.  You need to install upx and follow the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3414411
[16:33] <ompaul> Pici, hamachi is what?
[16:33] <ompaul> I can find the others using apt-cache search
[16:33] <Pici> Its a tool for doing vpn peer to peer connections iirc.
[16:38] <ompaul> I have been looking at the google results
[16:38] <ompaul> it seems that it is an option for upx
[16:41] <forsaken> can i be tested for the router bug? (i'm connecting to port 8001)
[16:41] <Pici> forsaken: hold still please.
[16:42] <Pici> forsaken: you appear to pass, give me a moment.
[16:42] <forsaken> ok, thanks
[16:42] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: you can discuss that in here, if you don't mind  :)
[16:43] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: sure, thanks.
[16:43] <Pici> forsaken: Alright, you're all set.
[16:44] <forsaken> Pici, cheers
[16:44] <Ariel_Eran> Hi all, a couple of days ago we've talked with nalioth, PriceChild and a couple of other people that were in the channel about IRSeek
[16:46] <Ariel_Eran> To bring you up to speed, after speaking with Christel, we've made several modifications to our service, and we are going to bring the service up (with Christel's blessing - http://blog.freenode.net/?p=68), and we wanted to get your approval to log the ubuntu family on channels :)
[16:46] <Ariel_Eran> family of channels, that is, sorry.
[16:48] <ompaul> you can't have them all in one go - we may own the name space but the locos are "owned by the loco teams" they would need contacts approval afik, not all ubuntu- channels that are part of the ubuntu- space would not want to be logged but in general I would think it is not a bad idea i
[16:48] <Ariel_Eran> PriceChild suggested that we speak a couple of days later after you guys get a chance to think/discuss this over. I was hoping you guys had a chance to consider
[16:49] <ompaul> no pricey to ask
[16:49] <ompaul> LjL, ?
[16:49] <ompaul> elkbuntu, ?
[16:50] <nalioth> ompaul: i have the answers
[16:50] <ompaul> nalioth, good :)
[16:50] <ompaul> nalioth, by mail or via irc?
[16:50]  * ompaul grins
[16:50] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: please limit your logging to channels that have ubuntulog in them.  If you desire to log a channel that does not have ubuntulog, please contact us here
[16:51] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: thanks, how can I tell which channels are logged by ubuntulog? (whois doesnt reveal anything)
[16:52] <ompaul> #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-ops #ubuntu-motu #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu
[16:52] <ompaul> third line of ubuntulog
[16:52] <ompaul> second even
[16:52] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: when you join a channel, you look for ubuntulog
[16:52] <Pici> ompaul: It only shows the channels that you share with it.
[16:53] <ompaul> ack
[16:53]  * ompaul head desks
[16:54] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: what cloaks or other identifying marks will your bots have?
[16:54] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: it will most likely be called IRSeekBot (and Christel said she'll take care of the cloaking in the next few hours) - the bot is not up yet anyway
[16:55] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth, others: thanks a lot, we really appreciate it.
[16:56] <LjL> Ariel_Eran: i'm particularly concerned about LoCo channels. please, make sure you really don't put the bot in there without the channel contacts' consent (you may find some of the contacts in #ubuntu-irc)
[16:56] <LjL> i really don't want them to blame us for ACKing the bot while we didn't... so just thought i'd make this clear
[16:57] <Ariel_Eran> LjL: Sure.  Do you know of ubuntulog is present on those channels as well?
[16:58] <LjL> Ariel_Eran: actually, simple procedure for checking if the bot is ok in: 1) /chanserv info #channel  2) /whois ubuntulog.   if #channel is owned by UbuntuIRCCouncil and ubuntulog is present there, the bot can join
[16:58] <ompaul> if it is #ubuntu-TLD then take it as read you need to ask the channel contact
[16:59] <LjL> Ariel_Eran: ubuntulog is not on those channels, other logging bots are. However it's really not up to us whether independent logging is considered acceptable there
[16:59] <Pici> Where TLD = 2 letter country-code
[16:59] <LjL> Ariel_Eran: in that case, /chanserv info #channel and send a memoserv note to the person listed as main contact (or a message if they or the alternate contact are online)
[16:59] <ompaul> woops
[17:00] <Ariel_Eran> LjL, ompaul: alright, sounds good, thanks!
[17:00] <ompaul> but yes cos we don't do -net -com -org -biz but then again maybe we should :-)
[17:01] <ompaul> Ariel_Eran, they are effectively independent, and at the risk of making the point again, please make this point very clear to those who work with you ;-) thanks
[17:01] <Ariel_Eran> ompaul: will do.
[17:01] <ompaul> ;-)
[17:02] <Pici> If you have any questions about who might own a channel, don't hesitate to ask.
[17:02]  * ompaul increments Pici 
[17:06] <Ariel_Eran> Pici: thanks, I'll keep it in mind
[17:07] <ompaul> Pici, you changed my topic so I had revenge by proxy ;-) I thought kaot feels incremented was great
[17:07] <Pici> I didnt change that.
[17:08] <LjL> Pici: you changed it from happy easter to happy halloween
[17:08] <Pici> I just changed Happy Easter to Happy Halloween
[17:08] <Pici> oct 31 = dec 25
[17:08] <LjL> ompaul: i changed it to begin with though :)
[17:08] <ompaul> ack
[17:08] <Pici> !syn
[17:08] <ubotu> ACK!
[17:28] <white_eagle> ehh, ompaul
[17:28] <white_eagle> why have you banned me
[17:28] <ompaul> check your pm
[17:29] <Myrtti> Uuuuuuuu
[17:29] <Myrtti> a doubter
[17:30] <Pici> Why doth thou protest?
[17:31] <Myrtti> /me takes her emp cannon from the recharger dock
[17:31] <Pici> ack.
[17:31]  * Pici doesnt even know what play thats from, nor any of the context.
[17:32] <jussi01> Hyvää Joulua Myrtti and Everyone!
[17:32] <Myrtti> hyvää joulua jussi01
[17:32] <LjL> ää you too
[17:34]  * Pici wishes everyone happy holidays
[17:34] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: /me thinks someone should acquire the nick Joanna for use in Ubuntu channels :P
[17:35] <Pici> Myrtti: I enjoyed your EMP alias the one time you used it. ;)
[17:35] <ompaul> give me hope joanna etc
[17:36] <jussi01> 0/me is completely lost
[17:36] <Pici> Nickserv>  Joanna -  Last seen 1 year 6 weeks 3 days
[17:36] <ompaul> jussi01, be happy, don't worry
[17:37] <tonyyarusso> Pici: more than 60 days
[17:37] <Pici> tonyyarusso: Yes, just a bit.
[17:41] <nalioth> what's an EMP ?
[17:42] <Pici> Electromagnetic Pulse
[17:42] <nalioth> well, no duh
[17:42] <jussi01> hahahaha
[17:42] <nalioth> 1198517701 11:35 <+Pici> Myrtti: I enjoyed your EMP alias the one time you used it. ;)            <<< how bout this one?
[17:42] <Pici> Why did you ask then?
[17:42]  * Pici looks in logs
[17:44] <Myrtti> anyone wanna try?
[17:44] <jussi01> Myrtti: ummmm....
[17:45]  * jussi01 shakes in boots
[17:45] <Myrtti> ;-P
[17:45]  * jussi01 hates windows... but PuTTy is a life saver!!
[17:46] <Myrtti>  empcannon  /say /me takes out her emp cannon and points at $0;/wait
[17:46] <Myrtti>           100;/say *BWUUUUUP*;/wait 50;/msg chanserv op $C $N;/wait 50;/quote
[17:46] <Myrtti>           remove $C $0 :http://xkcd.com/322 *KABLAM*;/msg chanserv op $C -$N
[17:46] <Pici> I couldnt copy it out without messing up the formatting anyway.
[17:47] <jussi01> Myrtti: LOL
[17:47] <jussi01> Myrtti: Can I grab those aliases off you again? since I put irssi on the server I didnt copy them over...
[17:48] <Myrtti> sure
[17:48] <Myrtti> I've not removed them
[17:49] <jussi01> Myrtti: linkki again?
[17:50]  * jussi01 apologises that he is on the windows box... :(
[17:50] <Pici> jussi01: http://pastebin.com/f4a331541
[17:50] <Gary> when did the topic change in -offtopic ?
[17:50] <Pici> When you werent looking
[17:50] <LjL> topic?
[17:51] <jussi01> HAAAHHAHAHHAHAH
[17:51] <Gary> I nearly wet myself laughing
[17:51] <Gary> oh I am so sad
[17:51] <Myrtti> myrtti.fi/temp/irssi_aliases.txt
[17:52] <Pici> I see no BWUUUP in that
[17:53]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti 
[17:53] <Myrtti> that's later
[17:53] <Pici> /alias hug
[18:45] <Pici> LjL: excess floodin again fyi.
[18:46] <nalioth> we're gonna catch him one day
[18:49] <LjL> yeah i noticed
[18:49] <LjL> my server shut down my SSH connection as well
[18:50] <LjL> and i hadn't saved the file i was editing
[18:50] <LjL> the cool thing is there isn't a mention of anything in syslog
[18:52] <sysdef> LjL: use vim
[18:54] <sysdef> vim will restore your work if you loose your connection and reopen the file
[18:54] <sysdef> LjL: or better: use screen
[18:56] <Pici> whoops
[18:58] <no0tic> who flooded him? And.. why only him, apparently?
[18:59] <Pici> I donut know
[18:59] <nalioth> he's flooding himself
[19:05] <LjL> blearg, my sister had the wrong IP set up for her stupid computer
[19:05] <LjL> i bet it was that yesterday too
[19:05] <LjL> anyway... the computer still thinks i'm connected and the nano process is still running, is there any way i can attach to it?
[19:05] <nalioth> likely story, you troll  :D
[19:05] <nalioth> LjL: if you used screen, type "screen -d -r"
[19:05] <LjL> no i didn't
[19:05] <nalioth> if you didn't use screen, you're SOL
[19:13] <Tm_T> Pici: hi
[19:14] <Tm_T> Pici: he's been pushing the limits for awhile, after he did start make provokes with nick I counted his sinlist being full enough ;)
[19:15] <Tm_T> Pici: see bans with his host too
[19:15] <Tm_T> anyway, I'm away from any pc once again ->
[20:35] <Utaka> Please can you uban me, sorry if I was a nuisance
[20:35] <ompaul> you just changed your nick again - you can't do that in #ubuntu
[20:35] <Utaka> I apoligse ompaul will not do it again
[20:35] <ompaul> the place is busy as all get out
[20:36] <ompaul> right - I'll lift it - please be aware that it is unfair on your fellow irc users in particular if they are not used to IRC the scrolling is too fast for them to deal with
[20:36] <ompaul> done
[20:37] <Utaka> thanks ompaul.
[20:37] <ompaul> np
[20:48] <ompaul> MenZa, wb
[20:48] <ompaul> I am a bit late there
[20:50] <MenZa> heh
[21:42] <white_eagle> ompaul, you haven't taken the ban yet?
[21:42] <ompaul> ahh
[21:42] <white_eagle> nevermind
[21:42] <white_eagle> if you think
[21:42] <white_eagle> that it should stay
[21:42] <white_eagle> let it be
[21:43] <white_eagle> thanks
[21:43] <ompaul> its removed - please bring your common sense to the channel and don't do things that will invoke censure
[21:43] <white_eagle> thanks dud
[21:43] <white_eagle> won't happen again
[22:14] <ardchoille> Is #kubuntu the proper place to be for linuxmce support?
[23:31] <LjL> !no best is <reply> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[23:31] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:34] <ardchoille> LjL: Is #kubuntu the proper place to be for linuxmce support?  I'm not sure exactly what LinuxMCE is
[23:34] <LjL> me neither
[23:34] <ardchoille> ok
[23:38] <MenZa> LinuxMCE is a media center distribution I guess
[23:39] <ardchoille> MenZa: Ok, but should we be supporting it in #kubuntu?
[23:39] <ardchoille> I don't want to provide instructions and have it mess up their LinuxMCE system
[23:39] <MenZa> It's a different distribution
[23:39] <MenZa> So no
[23:39] <MenZa> well
[23:39] <MenZa> its core is Kubuntu
[23:40] <ardchoille> Well, Ubuntu is based on debian too, but..
[23:40] <MenZa> yes.
[23:40] <MenZa> exactly.
[23:40] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[23:41] <ardchoille> MenZa: ty :)
[23:41] <MenZa> :)