| mhb | nice, the solid notifier in the panel actually works! | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| cheguevara_ | evening | 00:52 |
| cheguevara_ | hey Hobbsee | 00:53 |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 00:54 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: buildds fallen over, have they? | 00:55 |
| cheguevara_ | he wanted you to give back kdelibs i believe | 00:55 |
| cheguevara_ | kde4libs that is | 00:56 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 00:58 |
| * Hobbsee --> gone | 00:58 | |
| blizzzek | gn8 | 01:14 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: no need to give back anything, it seems they are hurtin' | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: ahhh. | 01:17 |
| * Hobbsee might look later | 01:17 | |
| nixternal | no biggy...allows me to update everything here and then do a batch upload | 01:18 |
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
| nosrednaekim | anyone know where guidance monitor config stores its config files for individual users? | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yup, that'll require admin access | 07:58 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: Merry Christmas (yeah very very late) | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | heya Jucato! merry christmas to you too! | 08:47 |
| GNUton | marry xmas to you all! | 09:10 |
| Jucato | Merry Christmas to you as well GNUton | 09:10 |
| GNUton | Jucato: :) | 09:10 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: merry x'mas! could you take a look at http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/tutorials/ ? | 10:22 |
| apachelogger_ | merry xmas! | 10:32 |
| * apachelogger_ hands out cookies | 10:32 | |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: work? on xmas morning? Oo | 10:32 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: it's to help get more devs in ;) | 10:32 |
| jpatrick | feel free to 'revu' yourself | 10:33 |
| apachelogger_ | Oo | 10:33 |
| jpatrick | ...the document | 10:33 |
| * apachelogger_ suddenly thinks his coughing and stuff isn't all that sick after all :P | 10:33 | |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: libqt3-mt-dev is redundant | 10:34 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: yeah, but I prefer to explictly put it | 10:34 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: packaging is missing a license version | 10:35 |
| apachelogger_ | packaging copyrigh/license is missing a license version | 10:36 |
| jpatrick | pardon? | 10:36 |
| apachelogger_ | The Debian packaging is (C) 2007, Jonathan Patrick Davies | 10:37 |
| apachelogger_ | <jpatrick@kubuntu.org> and is licensed under the GPL, see above. | 10:37 |
| apachelogger_ | GPL version??? | 10:37 |
| jpatrick | ah | 10:37 |
| apachelogger_ | :P | 10:37 |
| jpatrick | "under the version 2 of GPL license" ? | 10:38 |
| apachelogger_ | yeah, something like that | 10:38 |
| apachelogger_ | well | 10:38 |
| jpatrick | or later | 10:38 |
| apachelogger_ | version, or at your opinion any later version | 10:38 |
| jpatrick | done | 10:39 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: btw, I think you should explain what CDBS actually is, how it works and what it (dis)advantages are | 10:39 |
| apachelogger_ | also if the dh based rules isn't highly commented, which I can't remember ;-), you probably should do so... so that everyone gets an idea how all that stuff works | 10:40 |
| jpatrick | ok | 10:41 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: maybe explaining the watch file might be good as well, in case $READER wants to get a revu from a non kubuntu motu ;-) | 10:43 |
| * apachelogger_ has to find some drugs to get his fits of coughing under control | 10:44 | |
| apachelogger_ | lunch at grandma's :S | 10:44 |
| apachelogger_ | cya | 10:44 |
| jpatrick | later | 10:46 |
| jpatrick | merry christmas Hobbsee ! | 11:40 |
| iRon | 26000 of people has voted for question to our Ukrainian president: "How to patch KDE2 on FreeBSD".. Now we are waiting for press-conference which must take place on Dec 27 ;-) | 12:57 |
| cheguevara_ | iRon, your president is copying our president :P | 12:59 |
| iRon | cheguevara_: yep :) | 13:00 |
| cheguevara_ | iRon: do you support him or you support Yanukovich? | 13:00 |
| iRon | cheguevara_: i'm far from politics ... | 13:00 |
| iRon | i support kubuntu :) | 13:01 |
| cheguevara_ | heh | 13:01 |
| cheguevara_ | iRon, have you heard of NBP in Ukraine? | 13:01 |
| iRon | NBP? what's that? :) | 13:02 |
| cheguevara_ | Национал-Большевистская Партия | 13:03 |
| iRon | cheguevara_: no :) | 13:05 |
| cheguevara_ | kk never mind :P | 13:05 |
| cheguevara_ | bug 178234 | 13:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178234 in ubuntu "GTK themes doesn't work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178234 | 13:52 |
| === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger | ||
| jpatrick | merry xmas cheguevara ! | 14:46 |
| cheguevara | thanks jpatrick you too :) | 14:47 |
| TuxMan | Hello | 15:22 |
| TuxMan | Any tutorials/conferences going on? | 15:23 |
| jpatrick | TuxMan: that was ages ago | 15:24 |
| jpatrick | (merry xmas btw) | 15:24 |
| TuxMan | You too! | 15:24 |
| TuxMan | I got an XO laptop for Xmas | 15:24 |
| TuxMan | Been trying to find a way to make Ubuntu/Kubuntu work on it | 15:25 |
| jpatrick | TuxMan: how you looked though the tutorialsday logs? | 15:25 |
| TuxMan | no.. | 15:25 |
| TuxMan | how? im new to kopete =| | 15:26 |
| jpatrick | TuxMan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay , and pdf's at http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/tutorials/ | 15:26 |
| jpatrick | TuxMan: support channel is #kubuntu | 15:26 |
| TuxMan | Oh! Thanks! | 15:26 |
| jpatrick | bitte | 15:27 |
| jpatrick | hey Elidix ! | 15:27 |
| Elidix | jpatrick \o | 15:28 |
| Elidix | hi ^^ | 15:28 |
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 | ||
| === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger | ||
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 | ||
| === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh | ||
| apachelogger__ | Lure: I suppose I don't have to package QLandkarte? ;-) | 20:41 |
| * CheGuevara is now running KDE 4 svn | 20:41 | |
| jpatrick | :O | 20:41 |
| CheGuevara | i am not seeing how the icons on desktop is gonna work | 20:42 |
| * jpatrick _dislikes_ icons on desktops_ | 20:42 | |
| * CheGuevara downloads everything to the desktop | 20:43 | |
| * apachelogger__ notes that ubuntu default download path is desktop :P | 20:43 | |
| CheGuevara | yep | 20:43 |
| * apachelogger__ hates desktops though | 20:43 | |
| apachelogger__ | best would be to replace it with something useful | 20:43 |
| * CheGuevara wants a networkmanager plasmoid | 20:43 | |
| apachelogger__ | like an aquarium or something | 20:43 |
| CheGuevara | god firefox is scary on KDE 4 :P | 20:44 |
| apachelogger__ | ehm | 20:46 |
| apachelogger__ | firefox is always scary | 20:46 |
| jpatrick | Konqueror ftw | 20:46 |
| apachelogger__ | Konqueror+WebKit ftw | 20:47 |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 20:47 |
| * apachelogger__ is out of nectarines :( | 20:47 | |
| CheGuevara | lol | 20:47 |
| apachelogger__ | hm | 20:47 |
| apachelogger__ | xmas packages... | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | pokerth | 20:48 |
| CheGuevara | lets write a qt frontend for FF :P | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | kgtk | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | maybe sqliteman | 20:48 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: there have been plans on that | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | I think by SUSE | 20:48 |
| CheGuevara | yeah i've heard | 20:48 |
| apachelogger__ | but since ff is crap... | 20:48 |
| CheGuevara | heard somethign like that mozilla didn't give them svn access or something | 20:49 |
| apachelogger__ | I think they would have forked it then ;-) | 20:49 |
| CheGuevara | whats supposed to be faster opengl or xrender | 20:49 |
| nosrednaekim | openGL if you have decent HW | 20:49 |
| apachelogger__ | depends on driver/chip | 20:49 |
| apachelogger__ | hm | 20:50 |
| apachelogger__ | maybe also xmas package: megamek | 20:50 |
| apachelogger__ | life time package: jashaka | 20:51 |
| apachelogger__ | totally not xmas package: doomsday engine | 20:51 |
| CheGuevara | http://steelgryphon.com/blog/?p=108#comment-107274 | 20:51 |
| nosrednaekim | ya... firefox is probably controlled somewhere by Miguel de Izca | 20:57 |
| CheGuevara | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297788 | 20:57 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 297788 in CVS Account Request "CVS account request Dirk Mueller for Firefox/Qt" [Normal,Assigned] | 20:57 |
| CheGuevara | this is what i was talking about | 20:57 |
| nosrednaekim | whats bad about that? | 20:58 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 20:59 |
| apachelogger__ | I wonder why dirk didn't write some patches then | 20:59 |
| CheGuevara | true | 20:59 |
| apachelogger__ | really, dirk is the kind of person which I'd call a super hacker | 20:59 |
| CheGuevara | dirk is novell right? | 20:59 |
| apachelogger__ | yeah | 20:59 |
| apachelogger__ | well, not an evangelist like stephan binner ;-) | 21:00 |
| CheGuevara | hehe | 21:00 |
| CheGuevara | http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/7/76/Konqi-opensuse-small.jpg | 21:01 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 21:01 |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 21:02 |
| fdoving | orter.active.Vorian] joins #kubuntu-devel6/Konqi-opensuse-sma | 21:02 |
| Vorian | hello to you too fdoving | 21:03 |
| jpatrick | ? | 21:03 |
| fdoving | grr.. | 21:03 |
| apachelogger__ | lol | 21:03 |
| Vorian | :) | 21:03 |
| fdoving | hi. | 21:03 |
| toma | hi fdoving | 21:04 |
| fdoving | hi toma. | 21:04 |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 21:06 |
| * apachelogger__ kicks amarok | 21:06 | |
| nosrednaekim | no! | 21:06 |
| apachelogger__ | enough of that christmas music | 21:07 |
| * jpatrick watches as loud metal music comes out of apachelogger__'s speakers | 21:07 | |
| * apachelogger__ is listening to Touch It / Technologic by Daft Punk on Alive 2007 [Amarok] | 21:07 | |
| apachelogger__ | there we go | 21:07 |
| apachelogger__ | jpatrick: now, if that is metal? Oo | 21:07 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger__: it came before the /np | 21:08 |
| apachelogger__ | -.- | 21:08 |
| apachelogger__ | got me | 21:08 |
| fdoving | merry christmas to all who celebrates that. | 21:08 |
| Vorian | same to you fdoving :) | 21:11 |
| apachelogger__ | fdoving: to you to | 21:15 |
| * apachelogger__ hands out cookie | 21:15 | |
| apachelogger__ | +s | 21:15 |
| Vorian | \o/ | 21:15 |
| * Vorian eats da kookies | 21:15 | |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 21:17 |
| apachelogger__ | I hate it when I stop packaging for some reason | 21:17 |
| apachelogger__ | after some weeks I should restart from scratch because I forgot everything -.- | 21:18 |
| Vorian | kde-devel, cs KDE # | 21:18 |
| * Vorian ducks | 21:18 | |
| * kde-devel hits Vorian with a copy of KDE 2 | 21:19 | |
| === kde-devel is now known as CheGuevara | ||
| Vorian | nooooo | 21:19 |
| apachelogger__ | wooohooo | 21:19 |
| apachelogger__ | KDE2 | 21:19 |
| apachelogger__ | now that was an awesome series | 21:19 |
| apachelogger__ | not so crapped out | 21:19 |
| kde-devel | wtf | 21:20 |
| === kde-devel is now known as CheGuevara | ||
| CheGuevara | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde2shots.php | 21:20 |
| apachelogger__ | did anyone ever try kgtk? | 21:20 |
| nosrednaekim | whats that... | 21:21 |
| apachelogger__ | wrapper to use kde dialogs in gtk apps | 21:21 |
| CheGuevara | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde1shots.php | 21:21 |
| CheGuevara | sexy :P | 21:21 |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: at least branded :P | 21:22 |
| apachelogger__ | install all of KDE 4 and check all the apps | 21:22 |
| apachelogger__ | if you then can say all those apps look like they are 4ish you might consult a doctor | 21:22 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | kuser is a good example | 21:23 |
| CheGuevara | have you seen the font installer on vista :P | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | that app already look out of place in 3 | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: nope | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | vista is a whole nother story :P | 21:23 |
| apachelogger__ | vista is a wrapper for XP | 21:23 |
| CheGuevara | http://nathanbowers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/vista-font-manager.png\ | 21:24 |
| CheGuevara | here u go | 21:24 |
| CheGuevara | thats not even xp | 21:24 |
| CheGuevara | more like 3.1 :P | 21:24 |
| apachelogger__ | Oo | 21:25 |
| apachelogger__ | I always thought that is just dragndrop on windows? | 21:26 |
| CheGuevara | it can be | 21:26 |
| CheGuevara | but if you right click in the fonts folder | 21:26 |
| apachelogger__ | /usr/bin/kdialogd-wrapper: line 23: kdialogd4: command not found | 21:26 |
| CheGuevara | there's an option to add fonts | 21:26 |
| CheGuevara | which brings in that box | 21:26 |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 21:26 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 21:26 |
| apachelogger__ | then also windows has that old crap issue | 21:26 |
| apachelogger__ | but not as bad as KDE | 21:26 |
| CheGuevara | yeah but what i always wondered, since that is a file selection dialog box, why doesn't it re-use the code | 21:27 |
| === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine | ||
| === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| CheGuevara | kgtk looks interesting | 21:29 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 21:30 |
| apachelogger__ | one can't build KDE3 and KDE4 support at the same time | 21:30 |
| apachelogger__ | which makes me wonder how to package both | 21:30 |
| apachelogger__ | which probably was the reason I stopped packaging it | 21:30 |
| apachelogger__ | kdialogd3: Timeout:30 | 21:32 |
| apachelogger__ | bah | 21:32 |
| * apachelogger__ kicks that stupid app | 21:32 | |
| * CheGuevara switche from xchat to konversation | 21:32 | |
| CheGuevara | *switched | 21:32 |
| jpatrick | irssi ftw | 21:33 |
| CheGuevara | might as well just use bitchx then | 21:34 |
| jpatrick | bitchx was removed from hardy | 21:34 |
| CheGuevara | awww | 21:34 |
| CheGuevara | konversation kde 4 port doesn't seem to be coming any time soon as well | 21:35 |
| fdoving | irssi is nicer than bitchx, bitchx is a little bit outdated. | 21:36 |
| CheGuevara | apperentely bitchx2 is coming | 21:37 |
| CheGuevara | BitchX is the most popular IRC client among Unix systems. You can also use it on Windows, but if you had a Picasso painting, would you put it in the bathroom? | 21:38 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 21:38 |
| * apachelogger__ reports: kgtk is totally not working -.- | 21:41 | |
| apachelogger__ | cool | 21:43 |
| apachelogger__ | now gimp explodes | 21:43 |
| apachelogger__ | Oo | 21:43 |
| apachelogger__ | (gimp:2363): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_send_expose: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed | 21:44 |
| apachelogger__ | wooohoo | 21:44 |
| * apachelogger__ takes CheGuevara for a dance | 21:44 | |
| * CheGuevara is happy he didn't install kgtk yet :P | 21:46 | |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: it only works if you start the app with the wrapper script anyway | 21:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger__: what the naach is kgtk? | 21:47 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | Merry Christmas to all | Next meeting: 2nd January | ||
| apachelogger__ | Riddell: a wrapper to use native KDE dialogs | 21:48 |
| apachelogger__ | works with Qt and Gtk apps | 21:48 |
| apachelogger__ | theoretically | 21:48 |
| apachelogger__ | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 | 21:48 |
| CheGuevara | package it for kubuntu :P | 21:50 |
| CheGuevara | 2.6.24-rc6-mm1 | 21:52 |
| CheGuevara | This kernel doesn't work on i386! | 21:52 |
| CheGuevara | useful | 21:52 |
| Riddell | not if it doesn't work | 21:52 |
| === HamishTPB- is now known as HamishTPB | ||
| apachelogger__ | Riddell: well, then at least we could generate some work for new devs ;-) | 21:54 |
| CheGuevara | like they don't have enough :P | 21:54 |
| * apachelogger__ declares: ubuntu's gtk is b0rked | 21:56 | |
| CheGuevara | yeah just blame them :P | 21:56 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | it works for Qt | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | just tried with opera | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | hm | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | almost at least | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | I think my opera just locked up :P | 21:57 |
| apachelogger__ | /usr/bin/kqt3-wrapper: line 29: 3868 Segmentation fault (core dumped) LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/kgtk/libkqt3.so:$LD_PRELOAD "$@" | 21:58 |
| apachelogger__ | yay | 21:58 |
| apachelogger__ | -.- | 21:58 |
| apachelogger__ | maybe that is fixed in .4 | 21:58 |
| apachelogger__ | oh | 21:59 |
| apachelogger__ | I actually have .4 -.- | 21:59 |
| CheGuevara | hmm .24 ubuntu kernel is funy, under some reboots sound chooses not to load | 22:02 |
| jpatrick | that's not funny | 22:04 |
| apachelogger__ | depends :P | 22:05 |
| * apachelogger__ suspects the gtk-qt-engine to be responsible for the br0ken gtk | 22:05 | |
| jpatrick | apachelogger__: would you like it if your amarok just stopped working? | 22:06 |
| CheGuevara | another thing we'll be missing with kde 4 | 22:06 |
| apachelogger__ | jpatrick: considering I don't reboot in months I probably wouldn't notice :P | 22:06 |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: work stop? | 22:06 |
| jpatrick | heh | 22:06 |
| CheGuevara | no gtk-qt-engine :P | 22:06 |
| apachelogger__ | well, as I saied a work stop :P | 22:07 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 22:07 |
| CheGuevara | seems to be dead upstream as well | 22:07 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 22:07 |
| apachelogger__ | IMO gtk should just be ported to qt | 22:07 |
| apachelogger__ | much more reasonable | 22:08 |
| CheGuevara | haha | 22:08 |
| * apachelogger__ wonders how to burn the gtk-qt-engine | 22:08 | |
| CheGuevara | dont't forget C vs C++ | 22:08 |
| apachelogger__ | who is using C anyway? | 22:08 |
| CheGuevara | gnome | 22:08 |
| apachelogger__ | ah | 22:09 |
| apachelogger__ | that isn't true :P | 22:09 |
| apachelogger__ | mostly it's perl and python and stuff | 22:09 |
| CheGuevara | rewrite gnome in gtkmm! | 22:09 |
| jpatrick | mono... | 22:09 |
| * apachelogger__ doesn't like mono | 22:09 | |
| apachelogger__ | they didn't manage to get the vb.net love | 22:10 |
| apachelogger__ | hm | 22:10 |
| apachelogger__ | gtk-qt isn't the problem | 22:10 |
| apachelogger__ | strange | 22:10 |
| apachelogger__ | maybe my libs are messed up | 22:11 |
| CheGuevara | now i am tempted to try and announce that ur pc is b0rked | 22:11 |
| apachelogger__ | can someone please try to run kgtk? | 22:11 |
| apachelogger__ | CheGuevara: my PC is b0rked | 22:11 |
| apachelogger__ | what do you expact from a machine running suse, kubuntu and windows part time? | 22:11 |
| CheGuevara | unhappy grub :P | 22:12 |
| CheGuevara | i will try it though | 22:12 |
| CheGuevara | wanna go for a cig first | 22:13 |
| * apachelogger__ can' | 22:13 | |
| apachelogger__ | t | 22:13 |
| apachelogger__ | tried to smoke before, tasted like ***** | 22:13 |
| CheGuevara | lucky | 22:13 |
| * apachelogger__ should probably become a nu generation hacker anyway ;-) | 22:13 | |
| CheGuevara | being addicted sucks | 22:13 |
| apachelogger__ | not smoking, not alcohol drinking | 22:14 |
| apachelogger__ | but tea | 22:14 |
| jpatrick | tea!! | 22:14 |
| apachelogger__ | see :P | 22:14 |
| CheGuevara | i never had a feeling it tastes like crap though | 22:14 |
| CheGuevara | weed does.... | 22:14 |
| * jpatrick : tea and coffeo | 22:14 | |
| apachelogger__ | oh, no coffee either | 22:14 |
| CheGuevara | as long as its not tea with milk :P | 22:14 |
| apachelogger__ | but earl grey | 22:14 |
| * apachelogger__ notes that he never tried tea with milk | 22:15 | |
| CheGuevara | mmm earl gray is nice | 22:15 |
| CheGuevara | neither have i | 22:15 |
| CheGuevara | though living in UK you see it quiet often :P | 22:15 |
| apachelogger__ | lol | 22:15 |
| CheGuevara | lets ask Riddell | 22:16 |
| CheGuevara | though he'll probably tell us that Scotland != UK :P | 22:17 |
| jpatrick | tea with milk is good | 22:18 |
| CheGuevara | if you say so :P | 22:19 |
| CheGuevara | right brb | 22:21 |
| CheGuevara | back | 22:35 |
| CheGuevara | apachelogger__: kdialogd4: command not found | 22:43 |
| CheGuevara | apachelogger__: after ln -s it seems to work fine with firefox | 22:46 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| doc__ | hi there | 23:18 |
| jpatrick | hi doc__ | 23:19 |
| CheGuevara | hi | 23:20 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: can you pop by #ubuntu-ops a sec? | 23:31 |
| CheGuevara | yar | 23:31 |
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